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00:00:27.920i probably lost 50 of my audience that initial hit that was really discouraging because i was like
00:00:35.420i don't know if that was worth it and after i kept talking about it that's when a whole new
00:00:41.040wave of support came in well nevea thank you for joining the riley gain show this is so exciting
00:00:50.360um i think you may be one of the youngest yet one of the most influential people we've had on this
00:00:56.340show. So for those who don't know you, can you just give a little background on you and your
00:01:01.320family and I think how you were raised and how you grew up? Yeah. So I'm Nevaeh. I am 20 years
00:01:06.820old. I grew up on, well, my family moved us out to the middle of nowhere on a homestead and they
00:01:12.520were kind of logging that experience. And I was homeschooled my whole life. So I've been graduated
00:01:17.360for about three years now. And I think the homeschooled middle of nowhere upbringing
00:01:22.460really, it gave me a very niche, niche outlook on things. And so I started doing, you know,
00:01:29.300lifestyle type content, kind of showing our unconventional ways of living. And now I do
00:01:33.560political and Christian content on my YouTube channels. Okay. You, you say they moved you
00:01:39.240onto this homestead. What all did that entail? Like, are we talking farm and chickens and cows
00:01:47.040and garden? Like, what are we talking on this homestead? It's a farm now, but it wasn't much
00:01:51.260of a farm when we moved there it was 20 acres of flat field and we had a pole barn that we put all
00:01:57.200of our stuff in it was like two trailers worth of stuff sold most of what we owned and they were
00:02:02.320like well we'll build a house eventually but for now we are in a trailer and it it's just all been
00:02:07.520from the ground up do you feel like being the oldest gives you like a like a developed sense
00:02:13.040of responsibility i definitely think so i think older siblings in general have a very you know
00:02:19.420you have a different type of personality you tend to be very outspoken and want to you know make
00:02:26.900sure everyone's doing what they're supposed to do and yeah okay and you also mentioned you were
00:02:32.140homeschooled yes um homeschooling has been on the rise i would say especially post-covid um being in
00:02:38.960tennessee i mean just where i am i live in a a little northeast of nashville which is a pretty
00:02:43.580rural part it feels like every family wants to homeschool their kids now um what sort of stigma
00:02:49.540do you feel like kind of followed maybe you when you know you say you're homeschooled do you feel
00:02:54.700like there's that same stigma now as opposed to maybe 10 years ago if you told people you people
00:02:59.500you were homeschooled so i feel like 10 years ago when i was a kid the main concern with
00:03:04.780homeschooled kids is that they were going to be socially inept or socially awkward and now so when
00:03:11.500I talk about being homeschooled now that people can see me as an adult and see that like okay
00:03:15.920you know you're doing all right socially the main issue that always gets brought up is but what are
00:03:20.840you going to do now because they assume that you can't go to college you can't get a job you're
00:03:26.900not going to have a high school diploma and that you're somehow like your parents have done you a
00:03:30.820disadvantage by homeschooling you and that you're not going to be able to flourish career-wise or
00:03:35.640anything like that and so I mean the main part of the stigma that I get a lot on Instagram and
00:03:43.320things like that is you don't have a job and you didn't go to college and that's because I work on
00:03:48.480the internet and I didn't go to college I kind of I took inspiration from a lot of like what Charlie
00:03:53.260Kirk said about how you don't need to do that you know if you're not passionate about something that
00:03:57.900requires a degree don't go into debt don't go into student loan debt and so that's a criticism I get
00:04:04.020a lot now, but I have noticed that a lot of the people that are working online and are making a
00:04:09.420living for themselves using the internet to their advantage have been homeschooled. That's a big
00:04:13.700pattern I've seen at a lot of the events and stuff like that. And so I think when you're
00:04:17.680homeschooled, it kind of takes you out of the ordinary system of graduate, go to college,
00:04:24.380pick one of these jobs that your personality would most fit, and you kind of have to get
00:04:29.480creative and so a way of my mom did that was one of my homeschool projects when I was in the eighth
00:04:35.360grade or seventh grade actually was to start a business and so from that in seventh grade you're
00:04:40.960like 13 years old right like you're so young okay sorry keep going so we started lazy locks and I
00:04:47.540was making headbands and selling those and then a portion of the proceeds would go to cancer
00:04:52.760survivors wow and that ended up going on for about four years it went international and so that taught
00:04:58.920me so much about business and how to be an entrepreneur and i mean that's been a lesson
00:05:04.340i've carried with me my entire life thus far of course so like you can really tailor lessons in
00:05:09.540homeschool to the individual child and i think it it really does you a service i imagine even still
00:05:15.180that was kind of like a scary decision not going to college it was and i think a big part of that
00:05:19.720too was also you know everyone tells you that that's how you meet new people and that's how you
00:05:25.120you know you branch out and you figure out where you want to be in life and the types of people
00:05:31.320you want to associate with and that's how you gain so much experience going into adulthood
00:05:34.740and without that they're like well you've been isolated you know you didn't branch out enough
00:05:39.960and so a way that I've done that I call it kind of my little college is I like to travel to events
00:05:46.120and I like to try to find cool experiences and stuff like this where you can go and have real
00:05:50.960world in-person experiences with other people and different, you know, explore different career
00:05:56.820avenues and things like that. So there's so many different ways that you can get that experience
00:06:01.820within the real world without having to enroll in college. And that's such a myth that you're
00:06:08.360going to be isolated from all of those college age experiences because you didn't enroll in school.
00:06:13.500When you think about, I guess, switching from the, you know, lifestyle content that ultimately
00:06:19.960your family kind of created. And maybe that was what your first exposure to content creation
00:06:25.360really was. You said you switched to more of like cultural commentary and political content.
00:06:32.060What was that shift like? And why did you feel like it was a necessary shift to make again,
00:06:35.800especially being so young? I think it's, you know, when you automatically and publicly label
00:06:42.720yourself as a conservative for the viewpoints that I know you have, it can be scary. We see
00:06:49.500mean comments online of course false headlines pressure campaigns uh death threats and we've
00:06:55.640seen with charlie kirk how these death threats have the ability ability to manifest into reality
00:07:00.040what was you know some of the things that went into making that decision for you
00:07:03.680i think a lot of those reasons you just listed the pushback was the reason that i was like okay if i
00:07:11.220have a platform i want to speak out about my values because i mean gen z is in a very unique
00:07:16.620polarized environment when it comes to sharing our beliefs and our values the other generations
00:07:21.540before us they didn't grow up with constant feedback from the internet and we live in fear
00:07:27.140of if i share my faith or my political stance or my convictions i'm going to be labeled i have to
00:07:33.500deal with cancel culture i there's this internet history where people can use that against you and
00:07:39.920jobs and things like that and so i looked at all of that and i was like i've had enough and i think
00:07:46.980a lot of gen z has had enough which has kind of sparked this revival in gen z to be outspoken
00:07:51.620and to want to conserve values because it kind of became the rebellious thing for our generation
00:07:57.300because before the rebellion in the youth was always progressive you know change and improvement
00:08:03.360But now it's gotten so far that to conserve good values has become the rebellion.
00:08:10.740And so I was so disturbed by my own fear when it came to my platforms with speaking up on my faith and things like that.
00:08:20.000I didn't like that I thought about how I was going to be labeled and the criticism I was going to get if I was open about my beliefs and values.
00:08:27.780And so to me, that was my main reason to go, you know what, if I have a platform, I should be not only defending my values, but doing something that will honor God in the process.
00:08:39.880Because if you're not doing that, what really is it all for?
00:11:08.400how do I bring the topic of abortion up to my kids
00:11:11.360because it's a very sensitive topic obviously and yeah and it's something that kids don't really
00:11:16.320understand and you don't it's hard to understand the need to really talk to kids about that but
00:11:20.940the left has done such a good job pushing lies and the progressive narrative on young children
00:11:29.100through children's books and media and tv and that not only they not only try to create this
00:11:37.540disconnect in young kids between the value of human life but just a general disconnect with
00:11:42.360objective truth and objective morality this book was very controversial when we asked a couple
00:11:48.080pastors to carry it in church and stuff like that but if you go to a barnes and noble you're going
00:11:52.100to see 50 books about how little kids can be a girl one day and a boy the next and so there's
00:11:57.540such an attack on the minds of the youth and so we wanted a very like age-appropriate soft book
00:12:03.760that could counter those lies and a kid's never too young to understand that they were them from
00:12:10.800the moment they were created and that they were created with a purpose and meaning and their life
00:12:16.180has a measurable value and every human life has a measurable value no matter how small
00:12:20.680and 100 of the proceeds are going to mothers in need to help make motherhood possible for them
00:12:26.440because abortion has been a very uh it's been a very personal issue for my mom and i so she was
00:12:34.260really young fresh out of college unmarried and she found out she was pregnant with me
00:12:39.820and my mother was never abortion minded but she came from a very christian conservative family and
00:12:47.740she talks about the fear she felt when she found out naturally she was pregnant and she was like
00:12:53.340I have to tell my grandparents and my parents and everyone's going to be so disappointed in me.
00:12:58.280And she understood in that moment, the fear and the mindset you're in that makes girls go,
00:13:04.700I need this to go away and I'm not going to have support. And so luckily one third of Gen Z has
00:13:12.000been aborted, but my mother chose life. It's just horrifying. I actually just saw a Jubilee style
00:13:20.120debate that you were involved in. It was 20 pro-lifers and one, what word would you use to
00:13:27.040describe it? Pro-choicer. Pro-choicer. For abortion. Remind me her name again. Naima. Okay. I saw this
00:13:34.320amazing video that surfaced online following this debate where Naima said, you know, I guess she was
00:13:40.000going through a hard time where she was moving and you all as the 20 pro-lifers got together and
00:13:45.640got some funds uh to ultimately present to her and she talks about how moved she was by this
00:13:51.820and how you know maybe they you guys disagree on on policy issues and and moral issues um but
00:13:58.720nonetheless i think she saw a different side to to you guys as human beings um how was this debate
00:14:06.640how do you prepare for something like that it's got to be pretty nerve-wracking going into
00:14:10.680what you have to imagine is going to be kind of a hostile environment how do you prepare for
00:14:16.100something like that so i was mainly focused on trying to create because obviously i'm a christian
00:14:21.840and so my morals stem from my biblical backing and my christian upbringing but naima isn't and
00:14:29.440a lot of young girls who are getting abortions who could be watching are not christians and i wanted
00:14:35.100to make sure that i made my point when it came to abortion very secularly to them so that it made
00:14:40.360sense also from a scientific standpoint and so i was like this is my first debate i was nose down
00:14:46.820in my laptop for probably two weeks i was absolutely panicking because i wanted to do a good job
00:14:51.700and you did it was amazing i'm very self-critical i just made a whole video on my right side up
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00:16:21.360We saw Naima post a video actually on the anniversary of Charlie's assassination.
00:16:28.500um i would describe this video as is very grim very insensitive to the the deprived depravity of
00:16:37.700of what we saw witness when charlie was assassinated um it was kind of like a transition
00:16:42.340video where she's standing there and it's to the audio of of charlie speaking there's a gunshot and
00:16:47.460then she transitions into a different pair of clothes and she's done up her hair and makeup
00:16:52.580um how did you interpret that because on one hand we just saw her make a video talking about how you
00:16:59.080know um it was very light and saying you know we can disagree but at the end of the day they're
00:17:03.960a human i'm a human maybe we agree on more than we initially realized but then she does something
00:17:09.420like that how did you interpret it i mean initially i was really really disappointed
00:17:15.260because there was such a huge wave of positivity a positivity that came from that debate i saw the
00:17:20.920comment sections on her reel from people on the right and people on the left talking about how
00:17:25.060they just loved seeing women talking to women and it was so wholesome and she had a lot of people
00:17:31.540jump on her page that were from the pro-life side and I know Lila Rose kind of made a reaction to
00:17:37.640what she did and a lot of people came over from live action and were supporting her and I almost
00:17:43.000think because of some of the depravity that comes out of people who watch you know very leftist
00:17:50.260content on the internet and people who do mock the assassination of charlie kirk she was getting
00:17:55.060some really harsh comments from people on the left people in her own audience saying that
00:18:00.300you know all someone has to do is give you money and you're gonna do a whole right-wing shift even
00:18:05.500though that wasn't what was happening and i kind of interpreted it as her trying to kind of win
00:18:11.920over her audience a little bit but i mean either way it was a really really disappointing reel
00:18:17.760and coming off of the reel she made after our debate talking about it had such a great positive
00:18:22.760message she was talking about how you know not everyone who disagrees with you is out to get you
00:18:26.600and we don't have to dehumanize people or hate people just because we have different beliefs
00:18:32.100and ideologies and so to celebrate the assassination of someone who quite literally
00:18:37.800only had different beliefs than you to me was just really really dark and and they had personal
00:18:45.940interactions before charlie and her which makes it really it makes it worse yeah it does going
00:18:52.520back to the issue of of being pro-life we saw recently where massachusetts just became the
00:18:58.96010th state to remove gestational age limits on abortion for those who who maybe don't follow
00:19:06.460follow abortion policy closely can you explain what this means and i guess what your reaction
00:19:12.080was when you learned about this yeah so massachusetts is basically allowing loopholes
00:19:18.460to terminate at nine months even at any point in the pregnancy a lot of the vague language and
00:19:25.500actually i'm from idaho and we are actively fighting prop one in idaho right now which
00:19:30.360would allow pretty much the same thing it says that you can make exceptions very late term for
00:19:36.100anything health related or if the baby is past viability but would need extensive medical
00:19:44.740intervention which i mean even most preemies yeah i was gonna say they probably don't define
00:19:50.360extensive well yes i mean if a baby is born premature and their lungs are weak and they
00:19:56.420need help breathing that would be extensive medical intervention and so they basically
00:20:01.360open the door in these states to be able to abort at any time within the pregnancy for any reason
00:20:08.600really i mean you can say i'm depressed all of a sudden and i'm having really severe pregnancy
00:20:15.400symptoms i need to abort at nine months and a provider could do that legally and they use very
00:20:21.700vague verbiage on purpose because if you say abortion up to nine months people freak out
00:20:27.160But if you say abortion up to nine months for this, this, and this, that opens the door for anyone to be able to do that, but it doesn't sound as bad, then all of these things get passed.
00:20:37.980And, I mean, Idaho has been a very consistent pro-life state, which is one of the things I love most about where I live.
00:20:45.900And to see the local support for Prop 1 has been really, really disappointing.
00:20:52.560And so I see I see a lot of people going out of the crisis pregnancy centers in our town and in our area trying to prevent that from happening.
00:21:00.380So we don't end up like Massachusetts. But I genuinely think it's going to pass, which is really sad.
00:21:07.420And it just shows the level to which women have been really misled and lied to, because what I'm hearing from local women is, well,
00:21:15.220I might even be pro-life myself, but I'm going to vote yes for this because it's going to also
00:21:21.320protect miscarriage management and it's going to protect DNCs and it's going to make it to where
00:21:27.680if my baby dies, I don't have to carry around a dead baby for nine months like the pro-lifers
00:21:31.860want me to do. None of this is the case. They're saying that if this doesn't pass and a woman has
00:21:37.840a miscarriage, they can claim she had an abortion, put her in prison. They leave out the fact that
00:21:42.660there isn't a single pro-life piece of legislation in the country that doesn't have it explicitly
00:21:47.760written into law, that none of that would ever happen. Those are all protected. Miscarriage
00:21:52.680management is protected. DNC is protected. And so they make women so fearful of pro-life
00:21:58.940legislation that even if they disagree with abortion, they're going to vote these things
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00:24:12.260So what do you think conservatives could do a better job of messaging on?
00:24:17.040I think especially leading into the midterms.
00:24:20.020Abortion has historically been one of those issues that women in particular,
00:24:24.360it's like a you know we have a lot of women who that's the the one issue where they will vote
00:24:30.120on so how can conservatives do a better job in messaging these things well i think the strategy
00:24:37.400right now is to usually be more lax like if we want the the female vote we need to be more lax
00:24:44.280on our pro-life viewpoints i as a pro-lifer who thinks that's you know abortion is the greatest
00:24:49.600human rights issue of our time very much disagree with that i think the main issue is more so we
00:24:55.620need to debunk the lies and the propaganda that are being spread by the left and by the abortion
00:25:01.440industry again so many women will vote in favor of abortion just because they're so fearful of
00:25:08.280what pro-life legislation will do that doesn't involve abortion and all of that's non-factual
00:25:13.380And that was something we went over in our debate, too.
00:25:16.280Naima was listing quite a few cases where a woman was put in prison or charged because she had a miscarriage.
00:25:24.500And so when we were just listening to that, that obviously sounds really, really terrifying.
00:25:29.060That sounds like pro-life legislation is going to hurt women.
00:25:32.900So what choice do you have as a woman but to vote in favor of abortion or to vote left-leaning?
00:25:39.120and every single one of those cases was a completely different crime unrelated to abortion
00:25:44.600but they will never tell you that and there's just so much misinformation being put out
00:25:51.000by the left specifically concerning that topic because again it is the one issue
00:25:55.760that pretty much determines the female vote and i think we need to do a better job at debunking
00:26:02.120those claims and explaining the pro-life legislation versus the pro-abortion legislation
00:26:07.480better to women and making sure women are better informed on what the realities of abortion are
00:26:12.340and what the realities of a pregnancy are and kind of holding the abortion industry more accountable
00:26:18.960than we do for what they've done to the minds of women because I mean as a gen z woman I have a
00:26:24.220very large issue with the way the abortion industry has lied to us because for them to campaign on we
00:26:32.760want female empowerment and we care about women being informed no they don't they completely keep
00:26:39.080us in the dark about the realities of a pregnancy they show us a picture of an amniotic sack that's
00:26:43.520empty and tell us that's the contents of a pregnancy and it doesn't resemble a baby
00:26:46.640most women have never had an ultrasound or heard an heartbeat before they have an abortion which
00:26:53.160is a life-changing moment when you hear your baby's heartbeat for the first time even as someone
00:26:57.300who's always been pro-life i'll never forget hearing that heartbeat for the first time and
00:27:01.880you realize like i don't know that baby's heart beats just like mine does and just like yours
00:27:07.580does and i think it made it really real for my husband too because at this point i was going
00:27:11.680through the hormonal shifts and and i could feel the changes happening to me physically but my
00:27:16.080husband couldn't really yet of course or nor would he ever um but when he heard the heartbeat for the
00:27:21.820first time it's like holy moly this is really really real so you're right that first ultrasound
00:27:26.720And the first time you hear your baby's heartbeat, it makes it really, really real.
00:27:32.460And to your point, I saw an article this morning that says leading physician confirms unborn children feel excruciating pain during abortions.
00:27:40.220Women aren't told that by Planned Parenthood when they go in for for this procedure, which, by the way, in California, it's like illegal to to declaw a cat because it's considered inhumane and causes chronic pain.
00:27:53.480And yet in that same state, I guess they will still let doctors dismember a baby.
00:27:58.180And I saw one more article this past week that said, baby born alive at 23 weeks was gasping for air.
00:28:05.400Abortion clinic put baby in a bag and threw her in the trash.
00:28:09.220I think these are the things that Republicans could message on because, again, it's happening.
00:28:15.740And ultimately, to your point, that women need to be informed on.
00:28:19.240Do you feel hopeful about the future of Gen Z? I think there's a lot of cynicism when it comes to Gen Z. And we're often told like, oh, it's Gen Z that's going to ruin this country. We're told this by the worst generation.
00:28:31.520Yeah, right. We've told this even, I think, largely by conservatives online, like disgruntled
00:28:36.960Republican, lifelong Republicans who think that all of Gen Z is ultimately going to destroy this
00:28:44.300nation. Do you feel hopeful about our generation and what we can provide? And if we have the
00:28:50.780ability to save America? I do. And that's because, again, we've grown up in such a polarized
00:28:58.100environment. We've dealt with all of this pushback. We've dealt with all of the progressive culture
00:29:03.240and the internet. And what would be more appealing to Gen Z than to conserve? We want the American
00:29:09.960dream. And we feel like, especially with things like AI that we're now dealing with, it's being
00:29:14.060threatened. We don't know if we're going to be able to afford a home. We don't know if we're
00:29:18.960going to be able to find a biblical spouse and have kids. We don't know if we're going to be able
00:29:23.140to homeschool if we want to homeschool we don't know if we're going to be able to be openly
00:29:28.240conservative without being you know becoming the uk where you can be punished for your viewpoints
00:29:33.760and i think gen z now has such a desire to conserve those really important values that
00:29:42.200those of us who are christian and those of us who are conservative are some of the most passionate
00:29:47.280people in the entire movement. I think Gen Z Christian conservatives have so much conviction
00:29:53.980and passion, even compared to some of the millennials. I was just having this debate
00:29:58.180with my mom. Agreed. I agree with that. Private student loan debt in the U.S. is around $300
00:30:05.160billion with A-B U.S. dollars, and roughly $45 billion of that is considered distress.
00:30:11.760For a lot of people, that means one thing, feeling stuck with no light at the end of the tunnel.