Get MACED - October 20, 2026


‘Deaths in the MILLIONS’ | Nancy Mace Uncovers TRUTH behind Dr. Fauci

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I Found the Connection Abdul's Campaign Hoped You’d MISS | Nancy Mace

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00:00:00.000 How does arsenic get in a Twizzler? Nick, do we know how many people died from some of the
00:00:05.460 decisions that Fauci made? Has there been any effort yet to sort of get at what that number
00:00:10.560 might be? Yeah, so the number appears to be definitely in the millions. For the first time
00:00:16.660 ever, GetMace has a guest in the chair, and I did not book a politician, okay, very carefully.
00:00:22.900 I booked a scientist who actually reads the science. Nicholas Holscher is an epidemiologist,
00:00:29.320 That's a science scientist who tracks what makes people sick and why.
00:00:34.280 He works at the McCullough Foundation in Dallas, Texas.
00:00:36.800 He holds a master's degree in public health from the University of Michigan.
00:00:40.900 He's dug into Anthony Fauci's diaries.
00:00:44.860 That's the one where Senator Rand Paul went page by page in a U.S. Senate hearing and brought all of those secrets into broad daylight.
00:00:51.580 and he's also been reading studies about the stuff that's in your pantry in your food on your kitchen
00:00:57.580 table making you sick for example the weed killer that's turning turning up in your organic
00:01:03.560 bread the dyes and the chemicals like arsenic turning up in your halloween candy he's actually
00:01:10.160 read the studies that government scientists don't want you to read fauci told america that the lab
00:01:16.140 leak was a conspiracy theory so we're going to start with anthony fauci tonight and then we're
00:01:20.540 to come for your kitchen we're going to talk about the food that you're eating and nick is
00:01:24.700 going to bring the science that we want you to know about nick holsher and we'll put up on the
00:01:29.900 screen nick your twitter feed so people can follow you on x and on social media welcome tonight to get
00:01:50.540 can you do me one favor right now hit the subscribe button so dr fauci wrote in his
00:02:13.800 diary that the lab leak theory only took off because trump was mad at china that he had some
00:02:18.860 sort of a fight with China and that it became the target of some sort of conspiracy theory
00:02:23.480 about the NIH's role in 2024. Now, later on down the road, when Senator Rand Paul had
00:02:30.100 NIH's number two in the U.S. Senate, he completely contradicted it. His number two official,
00:02:36.900 Lawrence Tabak, admitted under oath that the NIH funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan.
00:02:43.180 And watch this.
00:02:44.560 Funding of the lab in Wuhan.
00:02:47.100 Senator Paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect
00:02:53.240 that the NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute.
00:03:04.040 Dr. Tabak, did NIH fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology through Echo Health?
00:03:13.180 It depends on your definition of gain-of-function research.
00:03:17.080 If you're speaking about the generic term, yes, we did.
00:03:22.720 It reminds me, Nick, of when Bill Clinton in that famous interrogation being asked
00:03:28.520 whether he had sexual relations with that woman, and he said, what is the definition of is?
00:03:33.360 And Tabak said there quite clearly, it depends on what your definition of gain-of-function research
00:03:37.560 because it seems like Fauci made it a very narrow definition,
00:03:42.200 But more broadly, it had more meaning than that.
00:03:45.160 So was it a conspiracy theory or was it true, Nick?
00:03:48.980 No, well, they called it a conspiracy theory, but it was 100% true, all of it.
00:03:54.760 And this has now been verified 100% with recent, I believe it was a few months ago,
00:04:02.280 declassified documents confirming that Fauci's agency, he oversaw the funneling of millions of taxpayer dollars.
00:04:11.540 to the Wuhan Institute of Virology for gain-of-function activities, modifying coronaviruses.
00:04:19.660 And so it was literally confirmed that he was funding that, right?
00:04:24.660 And so when we look back at that clip we just saw, he was claiming he didn't, right?
00:04:30.340 And so that's obviously lying to Congress, perjury.
00:04:34.900 You know, that's already a verified crime.
00:04:37.300 Nick, do we know how many people died from some of the decisions that Fauci made?
00:04:41.300 Has there been any effort yet to sort of get at what that number might be?
00:04:46.860 Yeah, so the number appears to be definitely in the millions, right?
00:04:51.020 And I say that for multiple reasons.
00:04:53.240 The first reason was the gain of function activities leading to a pandemic that killed
00:04:59.240 about 7 million across the globe, an inflated number of a million Americans.
00:05:04.300 We know the COVID death count was artificially inflated.
00:05:07.660 But regardless, we take that at face value.
00:05:09.740 That's a million Americans.
00:05:10.860 And why were they inflating the death count?
00:05:14.080 Because when you inflate the death count, you increase perceived fear of a pathogen by the population.
00:05:21.640 And so the higher the perceived fear is, the higher the vaccine uptake is.
00:05:26.660 And so their goal was to maximize experimental mRNA injection uptake via maximum fear.
00:05:34.760 And that benefited Big Pharma, right?
00:05:36.340 Because they got money for every shot, for every jab, right?
00:05:39.640 Exactly.
00:05:40.160 And then the hospitals will get reimbursed based on the number of COVID patients too, right? So if they were inflating numbers, deaths, or people who were ill too, that would have affected a hospital's bottom line. Is that right?
00:05:52.800 Correct. Correct. And hospitals, they receive large sums of money for certain COVID incentives. But it wasn't just deaths that were inflated. It was actually case count, the total case count. That really can amplify fear.
00:06:08.900 and i say that because there was a study published last october that looked at pcr tests right they
00:06:16.420 looked in germany the command center of germany's pcr tests they processed basically all of them
00:06:21.940 they had the pcr tests and the antibody rates of the same people so what they found was was 86
00:06:30.180 of pcr positive covet cases in the early pandemic were not real infections right so only 14 of them
00:06:38.580 them had actual antibodies and they had false positives right wasn't what i remember vaguely
00:06:44.220 getting pcr tests after pcr tests that there were a number of false positives with those tests so
00:06:49.900 that was one of the issues right yeah exactly because they amplified what's called the cycle
00:06:54.560 threshold they ran the genetic material too many times over 40 times they were only supposed to
00:07:00.280 run it maybe 10 times but because they amplified it 40 times you can theoretically detect covid 0.50
00:07:07.800 in a banana and a kiwi like some African officials did. And then one of them mysteriously died 0.63
00:07:14.920 a few months after that. Of course, always mysterious. But I want to jump into EcoHealth.
00:07:21.100 So there was this grant that Fauci, of course, denied paid for gain of function research. Fauci
00:07:26.320 wrote that Trump canceled the grant called the EcoHealth Alliance, the group that funneled
00:07:30.840 NIH money to the Wuhan lab without any evidence. Four years later, Biden's own HHS banned EcoHealth
00:07:40.060 and its president, Peter Daszak, from federal funding over reckless lab safety and misleading
00:07:46.280 statements. So who got it right, Trump or Fauci? Yeah, Trump got it right. Trump got it right for
00:07:53.020 sure for all the faults for him he got that one right yes yes um in 2018 eco health also and the
00:08:01.020 wuhan lab pitched the pentagon on building coronaviruses with the exact same feature 0.54
00:08:06.300 that lets covid break into human cells so easily and a year later a virus that features that with
00:08:12.380 these features show up in the wuhan lab vouch she called the report a proposal a nothing burger was
00:08:18.220 it really uh no no it was not a nothing burger in fact you know they've been modifying for decades
00:08:26.780 actually the same group of individuals barrack lab at the university of north carolina chapel hill
00:08:35.260 you know they've been literally publishing papers 2014 and 2015 where they literally experimentally
00:08:43.180 modified coronaviruses made chimeric coronaviruses to basically recognize human receptors
00:08:50.860 so they were already making these monsters you know in the u.s at this lab for a long time
00:08:58.220 and this whole paper i mean i was gonna add that would be my next question where is that u.s lab
00:09:02.380 that was doing that gain of function research it's called the barrack lab at university of north
00:09:07.420 carolina one of the things that fauci has done you know we we showed off that he was lying about
00:09:12.060 the gain of function research lying about us dollars paying for it um and he lied about all
00:09:16.380 these things under oath and then this summer he was called to the senate recalled to the senate
00:09:21.260 uh by senator ran paul i called for doj officials to go and get the guy and arrest him a long time
00:09:27.020 ago this is not an innocent man we're talking about an individual that gave medical advice
00:09:32.380 and then needed a pardon for giving that medical advice people need to see this well i respectfully
00:09:37.900 decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. I respectfully
00:09:43.480 decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. I respectfully
00:09:50.000 decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. When you
00:09:56.020 can't tell the truth, you plead the fifth, apparently, when you might face possible
00:09:59.860 criminal charges because that auto pin thing that Biden did to protect Fauci may not may have
00:10:07.880 had a limited timeframe. I want to get into food now. So one of the things now, Nick, you don't
00:10:13.340 know this, but I'm a huge super fan. I'm like such a big fan girl. If you're not following Nick,
00:10:19.060 you need to follow Nick on X. I probably at least once a week forward something that you have
00:10:24.780 posted, some piece of research that you've shared with my family, with my mom, with a sister, with
00:10:31.300 my kids, because I want to be sure that they're educated. I didn't know. I mean, I knew a little
00:10:36.380 bit about vaccinations, you know, having children, we limited the number of vaccinations that they
00:10:41.680 had. Both of my kids had vaccine reactions. And one, admittedly, at 18 months, we believe may
00:10:47.660 have been on the spectrum based on their symptoms. So I changed, not only did I change the way that
00:10:52.440 I vaccinated my children based on what had happened, I modified the way that we ate in
00:10:57.420 our household, trying to eat organic food, trying to make healthy options like meat, fruit, and
00:11:02.700 vegetables, nothing that's in a box. Because if you have a child that may be on the spectrum
00:11:06.860 as young as 18 months, you really think about what is it we're putting in our bodies. And when I
00:11:11.220 changed the diet of my family, when my kid was 18 months old and flapping their hands, spinning,
00:11:16.540 walking on toes, definitely 18 months presenting as autistic. 21 days later, after completely
00:11:22.660 modifying the diet, I had a completely different kid. Now, they weren't completely cured. There
00:11:28.380 still evidence of of uh sensory processing issues we've been dealing with for a lifetime
00:11:33.340 that have lingered gut issues um gut biome issues which all come with kids that are on the spectrum
00:11:39.020 or asperger's etc but you know i've been so sensitive to what's in our food and i and i try
00:11:45.260 to educate my family so that my you know kids as they're going into adulthood that they're making
00:11:49.340 good choices well nick i thought that i was making good choices by ordering and going to the grocery
00:11:57.260 store and looking up organic food and it come to find out that organic food may not i mean it might
00:12:03.740 be a better choice but there are still chemicals in our food that i just was not aware of he says
00:12:09.980 the team at the non-profit environmental working group or ewg had a lab test 45 samples of products
00:12:17.100 made with conventionally grown oats and found glyphosate the active ingredient in the monsanto
00:12:22.780 weed killer roundup in all but two so explain for people out there that have never heard of glyphosate
00:12:30.060 or maybe don't know what is explain it to us if you've never heard the word yeah glyphosate is
00:12:36.140 basically a weed killer right they they spray it on basically a large majority of non-organic foods
00:12:46.780 and in order and they do this because not only will it prevent the pests from coming to eat it
00:12:52.780 but it's going to basically prevent other sorts of growths that they do not want.
00:12:59.160 An animal study just came out that exposed rats to safe levels of glyphosate
00:13:05.620 that they say humans can be exposed to.
00:13:07.680 It caused over 10 distinct fatal and rare cancers in the rats
00:13:13.420 when they had small amounts of glyphosate in their water.
00:13:17.000 And we have human epidemiological studies showing increased lymphoma risk
00:13:22.580 when you're exposed to glyphosate and then we have people a lot of people probably seen this
00:13:28.440 there's a man that dumped a glyphosate on his neck his his not spray nozzle broke and it got
00:13:36.500 all over him and he developed a giant oh was that real I didn't realize that was real I thought that
00:13:41.940 was AI yeah they called it an alien tumor it looks alien wow but that's what happens when this stuff
00:13:49.440 is exposed that's insane i thought when i saw that that that was literally ai i was like this
00:13:55.200 is ai slop yeah that's crazy so so it's used as a weed killer it's a chemical and a weed killer
00:14:00.720 how does it get into our bread into oatmeal into those products yeah so it gets everywhere because
00:14:09.040 basically once it's sprayed on you're not going to be able to fully wash it off and so and a lot
00:14:15.240 the time it'll actually get inside of whatever it's being sprayed on instead of just staying on
00:14:21.400 the outside nobody's really tested this except the florida department of health recently that found
00:14:28.520 75 percent of breads popular breads they tested had glyphosate in it including organic ones which
00:14:36.360 include dave's killer bread another case another major ruling involved monsanto as we said the
00:14:41.960 the manufacturer of the weed killer roundup this was a seven to two ruling and they said that the
00:14:47.000 company cannot be sued for failing to put a cancer warning on roundup how how did this happen you
00:14:52.120 can't put a cancer warning on products that might have roundup in it yeah and that's very disturbing
00:14:59.000 i remember that was a supreme court ruling a few months ago and yeah that was very disturbing
00:15:05.640 basically they claimed because our public health agencies say there's no cancer link you know
00:15:12.360 therefore you know you can't sue them is organic still safer than regular non-organic products or
00:15:19.880 food yeah it's still safer it's still worth purchasing it just to at least hope there's no
00:15:26.680 glyphosate now a lot of organic products they're not going to have glyphosate it's just some of
00:15:30.600 them still will but it'll be in lower amounts if it is okay than the non-organic one it's better
00:15:36.680 than the alternative then basically yeah exactly you'll still want to get it and you know just look
00:15:42.280 out for those test results again um certain organic brands will have glyphosate i would
00:15:48.280 just try and avoid those we're jumping into halloween candy piper play that fox news clip
00:15:54.280 but just three months into health and human services secretary robert f kennedy jr's
00:15:58.840 efforts to eliminate synthetic food dyes from products nationwide mars is pushing back it
00:16:05.640 promised back in 2016 to drop artificial colors but the company is still using dyes like red 40
00:16:13.080 and yellow five all right so parents and grandparents are about to take the children
00:16:19.000 and the grandchildren out trick-or-treating for halloween some of us are going to be on the front
00:16:24.280 porch of our homes giving away candy and now they tell us because there's been now been studies
00:16:30.760 that are doing about chemicals in the candy what is the worst thing that we're seeing in candy right
00:16:36.600 now yeah and this is very disturbing and everybody needs to know this for halloween so again we go
00:16:43.720 back to florida department of health they tested all the popular children's candies and over 60
00:16:50.440 percent of them contained dangerous levels of arsenic arsenic is a highly potent poison
00:16:58.440 in carcinogen you don't want any amount of that and the worst offenders are some of the best
00:17:04.040 candies you know the ones people like kit kats tootsie rolls nerds sweet tarts i heard it was
00:17:12.040 four twizzlers a year before you reached yeah i mean like 60 nerds which how much is 60 nerds a
00:17:17.800 quarter of a box yeah exactly there's thousands of nerds in a box so your kid you know dumps you
00:17:24.520 know drinks a whole uh you know dumps in a whole box of nerds um he is going to be or she's going
00:17:31.960 to be way over the safe arsenic consumption limit some of us grew up on candy like we had
00:17:38.600 no idea we were eating arsenic how does arsenic get in a twizzler it we believe that this is
00:17:46.760 occurring because it's something going on at the manufacturing plants perhaps all of the the
00:17:54.280 metals in the equipment where they process it is leaching arsenic you get four twizzlers kids
00:18:02.760 that's it we're just getting riddled with chronic disease because our food's absolute garbage
00:18:08.920 it is we're literally eating garbage i mean that is 100 100 accurate i am a massive massive fan
00:18:16.120 And every week I am sending people that I love your ex posts.
00:18:20.500 I hope that you'll go and follow Nick Holscher.
00:18:22.780 It's very educational, informational.
00:18:25.080 Do your research, read the science.
00:18:28.120 But he's just been fantastic.
00:18:30.500 I want to thank you, Nick, for coming on today.
00:18:32.600 I hope that you'll be back.
00:18:33.820 And I want to thank you for educating the masses, for giving us information that a lot of mainstream media will not cover.
00:18:42.180 Big Pharma doesn't want to cover because they lose money in a lot of this.
00:18:46.740 And hospital systems lose money if you're healthy.
00:18:49.560 But also being healthy reduces the cost of health care in this country, which is why
00:18:54.300 we need people like Nick and the McCullough Foundation to be supported through and through.
00:18:59.520 Thank you so much, Nick, for being on.
00:19:01.260 And we'll see you next time.
00:19:02.920 Thanks for having me.
00:19:03.940 Thank you.
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