Get MACED - October 23, 2026


The WNBA Told Congress Royce White Is a Man. His Response Was SAVAGE. | Nancy Mace

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00:00:00.000 This country has lost its backbone and its heritage. 1.00
00:00:04.340 Roysha is my spirit animal.
00:00:06.600 You look beautiful tonight.
00:00:07.720 I'm sometimes identifying as a beautiful black, lesbian, transgender, BBLT. 0.93
00:00:12.580 I'd love to get maced.
00:00:30.000 can you do me one favor right now hit the subscribe button tonight's episode of get mace
00:00:48.580 i have a very special guest i have royce white a former professional basketball player on with us
00:00:55.340 this evening. The Houston Rockets select Royce White of Iowa State University.
00:01:05.400 And before we get any further tonight, I want to say one thing about the men out there protecting
00:01:09.840 women. Real men protect women and girls. They protect them in sports. They protect them in
00:01:15.320 the bathrooms. They protect them in the locker rooms. They protect them in schools. And we have
00:01:19.100 a handful of men who've been very vocal. Royce is one of those. But this is one of my favorite
00:01:23.420 videos of Royce White. Take a look at this. Oh, earlier this week, I made the announcement. I'm
00:01:28.580 transgender. I'm a woman. I identify as sometimes identifying as a woman for purposes of basketball,
00:01:36.600 professional basketball. So I'll be declaring for the WNBA draft in 2027 as well.
00:01:44.120 Royce, welcome to the show. Are you ready to get to get maced tonight?
00:01:49.440 I'd love to get maced.
00:01:52.200 Good.
00:01:53.000 And so my first question tonight, Royce, is are you a woman?
00:01:55.680 I'm sometimes identifying as black, beautiful black, lesbian, transgender.
00:02:00.200 BBOT is the new term.
00:02:02.300 I'm trying to get coined right now.
00:02:04.480 We'll see how the U.S. Patent Office feels about mine.
00:02:08.120 You have to trademark that. 0.85
00:02:11.120 BBOT, beautiful black, lesbian, transgender. 0.99
00:02:13.840 Well, I love the wig. 0.92
00:02:15.720 I love the wig on tonight. 0.99
00:02:17.000 you've got nice roots there and go blonde. I'm wearing a wig topper tonight. I have a wig on
00:02:21.820 as well, uh, that I wear almost every day. Um, mine's not as long as yours, but you look
00:02:26.960 beautiful tonight. Thank you. You do too. And then what, okay. Your definition, what is a woman?
00:02:32.940 Everybody wants to know what's a woman. Well, I think a woman is a person who can have a child. 1.00
00:02:39.780 Yeah. They can biologically have a child that has a uterus that has, uh, uh, women reproductive 1.00
00:02:44.940 of organs, whether they be functioning or not. And ultimately, women serve an incredible purpose 0.98
00:02:52.480 in our society. They're mothers. I have a mother. My mother has a mother in many generations before 1.00
00:02:57.380 that. So it's quite scary that we've somehow lost the terminology of woman somewhere in here.
00:03:04.920 But since we have, I mean, Roysha is having a blast. I never thought I could be a woman.
00:03:09.320 and at 35 years old this is somewhat of a midlife point to be able to become a woman you know in my
00:03:16.200 midlife point is is a blessing I'm having a blast a woman that can dunk on other women I mean how 0.91
00:03:22.220 great would that be to be able to do that or smash the ball in their their faces so explain to us 1.00
00:03:27.520 why you entered why you try to enter the WNBA you and Ennis Cantor freedom why do that like
00:03:32.980 what was the point? Well, I want to be included. I want to be allowed to be allowed to participate.
00:03:41.020 I think I have a right to participate. Transgenders have existed since time immemorial,
00:03:46.240 since the beginning of time. And we have a right to exist and we have a right to participate.
00:03:51.660 We have a right to play the sports and pursue our dreams and do all the things that we want to do
00:03:57.200 with the rest of society. And at the professional level, I honestly see there should be a delineation
00:04:02.780 between professional sports and youth sports or college sports.
00:04:07.980 Our college students are still in the bosom of their parents, right?
00:04:11.780 I mean, they're adult age, but they functionally are still children in many ways.
00:04:18.100 So I think we should delineate between the circus that is professional sports
00:04:22.540 and a part of the community building that is youth and college sports.
00:04:29.860 so in that way i think i should be able to play i mean you know every circus bearded lady 1.00
00:04:36.100 i know well you know that's what they want i mean that's what these liberal white women 1.00
00:04:40.840 loris that's that's what they want they want men to participate just like you big bona fide muscular 0.97
00:04:47.000 men to beat up on the women that's what they're advocating for but speaking of participation this
00:04:52.060 week a letter came out from the wnba and it went to so members of congress five house members
00:04:58.000 actually, and I can't believe I wasn't one of them. I don't know how this letter went out without my
00:05:01.360 signature on it, but five house members wrote the WNBA. The WNBA wrote back and said, with respect
00:05:08.460 to your questions regarding eligibility, only women are eligible to play in the WNBA, and the
00:05:14.160 individuals you cite in your letter are both men, and the individuals they cite are you, Royce, and
00:05:19.380 Ennis Cantor Freedom, saying you're both men, but isn't it true that in the WNBA's own rules, they
00:05:25.580 don't even define what a woman is so does number one I got two questions about this letter does
00:05:30.600 it satisfy your push to force the league to define biological sex number one and if the NBA WNBA can
00:05:37.660 say you're a man why the hell can they not define what a woman is in their in their rule book
00:05:43.460 well it certainly doesn't satisfy me uh I can't speak on on behalf of Venus but I saw a video
00:05:50.360 that he put out in the last couple of days and I was mortified to see how he was treated at the
00:05:55.340 at the atlanta game uh last night uh kicked out of the game not allowed to to sit in his seats
00:06:02.300 the seats that he purchased as a fan as an american citizen more importantly as a trans woman
00:06:07.100 and they wanted to hide him up in some suite like they're like they're ashamed of us i mean who would
00:06:11.580 uh you know they kicked me out of the game for supporting women they kicked me out of the game
00:06:21.740 they're not letting me in the arena by protecting women and supporting women shame on the nba now
00:06:27.980 you have retained an attorney matt gates is that right one of my former colleagues and are you
00:06:33.500 are you is the letter it doesn't sound like it satisfied you the requirement that you wanted to
00:06:38.140 get in writing so gates posted that the w nba should preserve all records in anticipation of
00:06:44.220 litigation or media sources say both of you are ineligible of course the league says that now
00:06:50.380 um but it hasn't quite addressed it so are you still going to sue after this letter to congress
00:06:56.060 from the wnba the letter is just further proof of the wnba's uh discrimination actually it it
00:07:04.700 it doesn't acknowledge my trans identity which is tantamount to genocide i mean we know there's
00:07:10.620 a full-blown genocide and gender is happening in this country and all around the world and you know
00:07:16.220 We we have been persecuted for millennia. And I'm grateful as a as a woman that we have strong men like you and in this canter freedom who are standing up for us and our rights. 0.53
00:07:26.440 We only got the right to vote just over 100 years ago. We have Title IX.
00:07:30.200 We fought for our rights. And in fact, I was the first Republican woman elected to Congress from the state of South Carolina.
00:07:37.620 And it happened about 100 years after women's suffrage. 0.98
00:07:40.500 And so we've gotten pretty far, but now they're like stealing our rights away from us. 0.54
00:07:46.280 And so I can't thank you enough for for what Roy Shaw, what Roy Shaw is doing to bring attention to the issues that are facing women right now.
00:07:54.820 And speaking of some of the mental health issues, one of the things I want to highlight tonight is that a lot of people don't know that you have run for office before.
00:08:01.680 You were the Republican nominee in Minnesota, I guess, two years ago in 2024.
00:08:06.480 And you ran again this summer for the United States Senate.
00:08:09.340 you've made a difference in politics. You've been very outspoken on mental health issues.
00:08:14.440 I was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder in 2024. I have PTSD. The reason I'm
00:08:19.880 wearing the wig is because I've lost a lot of my hair, but you've also been outspoken about some
00:08:24.380 of the mental health issues. And I wanted to ask you while I had you on tonight, we're going to
00:08:27.600 talk about the NIL too, but what do you think about the NBA? Did they fail your mental health
00:08:33.120 issues that you were facing when you were a professional basketball player? What would you
00:08:37.260 tell a young player today who who may want to go into the nba is in college or is looking at it
00:08:43.240 you know with respect to their mental health and getting in the game well mental health is the
00:08:48.800 greatest social issue we face and i don't like to talk about mental health in terms of the dsm i
00:08:53.900 think it's a much deeper issue than that i think mental health is where the mind body and spirit
00:08:58.580 converge you know the perceived uh perceived or real conscious reality that's that's where a lot
00:09:05.940 of the wood gets chopped in the human condition. So it's just another way to say the human
00:09:10.300 condition. And because of that, it's the most important domain of our society, certainly of
00:09:15.540 our science. We should be hyper-focused on the human mind and how it works. And up until this
00:09:21.060 point, it would appear that the majority of the focus has gone into how to manipulate and control
00:09:27.280 the human mind, vis-a-vis social media, the advent of social media, which is explicitly predatory
00:09:34.040 on the human psychology and uh we we have seen a spike in mental health conditions mental illness
00:09:41.880 severe mental illness just recently we we see a string of women who are murdering their own
00:09:47.460 children yeah uh you know so yeah i mean mental illness is at an all-time high
00:09:52.180 my battle with the nba was uh you know was ahead of its time in that i i see professional sports
00:10:00.960 as a watering hole for a global corporate community and the question that all american
00:10:05.520 citizens should have but citizens worldwide is what is the premium of life what is the premium
00:10:10.480 of humanity for the global corporate community i've become a very anti-establishment anti-globalist
00:10:16.560 politician which is part of the reason why i haven't won yet right i ran three times actually
00:10:20.880 once oh okay yeah i ran in 2022 for congress i i lost in the primary by about 700 votes
00:10:28.400 Good for you for getting in the arena. I mean, that's one of the toughest things. People don't understand how hard it is to put your name in the hat to get into the arena. People are looking at everything. And I'm leaving Congress. I'm leaving politics for a while. I'm looking forward to it. Less death threats. Speaking of death threats, you just got one recently. Piper, throw it up on the screen. I'm going to read it to you. It's from, I believe it's on X, but this is from an Owen McDonald. He sent this message to Royce.
00:10:57.580 He goes, hey, buddy, I hope you're skinned and eaten in front of your family, you dirtbag, little you should be put so far in the ground. 0.99
00:11:05.680 The worms can't even reach you. And I can't wait to celebrate your death like I did the Kirky boys. 1.00
00:11:11.140 This is what happens when we have conservative voices, particularly when we have minority conservative voices. 0.99
00:11:17.140 You're a black man. Now you're a black trans man or black trans woman. 0.97
00:11:20.000 but be a black man and to be conservative to be anti-establishment and i've got a lifetime 0.99
00:11:26.200 membership to being hated royce just like you the same media that hates you they hate me the 0.97
00:11:30.720 new york post can't write one nice word about the conservative effort i've undergone same with you 0.98
00:11:35.020 they trash you as much as they trash me and it's disgusting so what what do you do when you get 0.52
00:11:40.800 these kinds of threats like what do you what do you have security like how are you staying safe 0.67
00:11:46.340 because you have been very vocal on conservative issues.
00:11:48.920 Well, the first thing I think is I'm vindicated. 1.00
00:11:52.320 When I told the NBA that the mental health crisis was on the horizon, 0.68
00:11:56.380 there it is. 0.79
00:11:57.780 It's on full display.
00:12:00.000 And, you know, whether people want to face it, deal with it,
00:12:03.640 make it a priority or not, like many other cultural issues,
00:12:07.080 it's on its way to everybody's front door.
00:12:11.000 So, you know, I don't – some of these people, you know,
00:12:13.900 So Charlie Kirk was brutally assassinated.
00:12:16.800 So you do have to take these threats seriously to some degree.
00:12:21.680 I don't plan on speaking outdoors anytime soon.
00:12:25.120 None of us should, really.
00:12:26.060 None of us should.
00:12:26.960 I didn't mention that I'm running for president in 2028.
00:12:30.500 Do you have a website for that yet we can put up online for people to go follow you?
00:12:35.000 We'll put up your...
00:12:35.740 There are so few conservative graphic designers.
00:12:39.100 We're still working off the U.S. Senate website, RoyceWhite.us.
00:12:42.260 and uh you know roysha's roysha's website is coming here in the next few weeks queen
00:12:46.780 roysha.com so you know yeah yeah queen roysha lives vicariously through roy still the two
00:12:52.400 spirit in a political sense but yeah is she conservative or is she the opposite or her 0.93
00:12:57.440 political values the same oh no her political but she's way further to the right than me
00:13:01.800 yeah yeah roysha roysha is my my my spirit animal uh when it comes to politics and and my 0.54
00:13:09.380 my emotional support animal as well uh roysha's hardcore right winger uh mass deportations 30
00:13:16.600 million as an appetizer we should oh we're not even deporting it in the death i'm with you we 1.00
00:13:21.880 should put women to death who kill their children we should publicly execute them uh and and so on 0.99
00:13:27.160 and so forth now roysha's hardcore before i get into the nil and i and i want to i'm gonna ask 1.00
00:13:32.320 some serious questions too but what the hell is going on in minnesota did you see this interview
00:13:35.940 last night with ilana mar who was asked about whether or not she was married to her brother
00:13:41.620 and she said not that i'm aware of did you see this last night on um so chris hayes i think ms
00:13:49.220 now one of those asked her did you ever marry your brother did you marry your brother and she says not
00:13:53.700 to my knowledge he was not you were not related to him at all not that there's not like there's
00:13:58.260 not some weird kernel of truth that's through some game not to my knowledge like that's not a yes or
00:14:03.060 right now. Is there something in the water in Minnesota? What's going on in Minnesota that we
00:14:06.340 should all be aware of? Well, the first thing is it's no longer Minnesota. It's now Mogadishu. I
00:14:11.620 refer to my home. I was born and raised here in Minnesota in the Twin Cities as Mogadishu,
00:14:17.200 Minnesota. And my pitch, my presidential pitch is don't Minnesota my America. Don't Mogadishu
00:14:23.200 my America. Coming up tomorrow night on Get Maced. What's Royce's favorite brand of purses or handbags?
00:14:29.100 they're shouting death to america on the streets well i think people think i'm crazy
00:14:34.840 we hit a hundred thousand subscribers on youtube last night i want to say thank you today we're
00:14:46.380 going to eat cake because you my friend have supported me over the years and we just got to
00:14:51.160 a hundred thousand subscribers on the new youtube channel for get maced you did that thank you it's
00:14:57.920 still going so if you haven't signed up yet go subscribe right now we're at 100 piper you said
00:15:03.420 what 102 000 or 102 000 now we're over the mark now we got to get to a quarter million
00:15:09.540 but today we're eating cake because we just hit 100 000 subscribers on youtube thank you i love you
00:15:15.560 i did a personal piece last night and my mom texted me today she said you really should have
00:15:24.040 thanked your father and I. When I was thanking all of my supporters and voters and donors and fans
00:15:29.800 and all that, my mom said, you should have thanked your father and me. And so this is a special shout
00:15:35.700 out to my dad. God rest his soul. May he rest in peace. He passed away on April 14th earlier this
00:15:41.800 year. He was my rock, one of my rocks, one of my two rocks. My other rock was my mother, who I help
00:15:49.200 as her caretaker these days, now that I'm closer to home and retiring from Congress at the end of
00:15:54.080 the year. I'm trying to take care of her the way she has taken care of me over the years. So
00:15:58.840 special shout out, and I love you, mom and dad.