Ty Richards' new song Western Chauvinist has been banned from play on KUTX Radio in New York City. Gavin McInnes explains why this should not have happened and why it's a good thing it was banned.
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00:00:20.000Live from New York, it's Get Off My Lawn with Gavin McInnes.
00:03:33.000It reminds me of Dream Machine, by the way, who were punished for saying, because there's an immigrant in the band and she said, I know I'm an immigrant, but I'm glad they're rounding up illegal immigrants because a lot of them are criminals.
00:04:29.000But because I put that out there, some people went, wait a minute, maybe he's not making fun of Gavin.
00:04:35.000And so the radio station, KUTX, the same station where the DJs were telling me that I'm being made fun of, they thought, wait a minute, maybe he's not, and they banned the song.
00:04:46.000So it's number six on BTR Today, which is a popular site.
00:06:11.000What if you found out that Led Zeppelin, everyone in Led Zeppelin had the stupidest politics ever, or they all thought the age of consent should be lowered to 12?
00:06:20.000Wouldn't that ruin Led Zeppelin for you?
00:06:23.000Why do you always want to ruin art for yourself?
00:06:26.000And also, KUTX, if that's what you're called.
00:06:30.000If you keep demanding that artists comply with a leftist narrative, you're eventually going to have Soviet radio, propaganda radio.
00:06:40.000America was founded on a diversity of opinion.
00:06:45.000The British government made the mistake of encouraging a free press up and down the East Coast and having all these dissident, is that the word, to have all this dissent within the newspapers to have attrition, to have, not attrition, to have conflict.
00:07:02.000And so all these papers were far right, far left, center of the road, they're all over the place.
00:07:08.000And the next thing you know, people are going to the tavern to learn how to use guns, which the government encouraged.
00:07:13.000And eventually, much to Britain's chagrin, these people with differing opinions said, let's just start a new, let's invent a new country that's not British where we can take over and have whatever we want in here and don't own anyone, don't owe anyone anything.
00:08:31.000As you know, we've been spinning Western chauvinists for some time now, and it's been generating a lot of conversation amongst our listeners.
00:08:38.000Namely, a short Is It Satire or Is It Game, or Isn't It Game, a verbal taste?
00:08:47.000Although KUTX has directly received some blowback from folks who don't perceive the lyrics as satirical, we've been rolling with it.
00:08:53.000But yesterday's sharing of the song via the video recorded in our studio by Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes has generated even more attention.
00:09:02.000While we like to encourage our listeners to think for themselves this is a case that puts KUTX in a difficult position, would you...
00:09:15.000Read the rest of it as Tony Soprano, please.
00:09:19.000Would you be willing to make a statement about the song, your intentions lyrically, responses you've received, etc., that we can share with our audience?
00:09:28.000Fly at kutx.org to clarify once and for all whether or not a Western chauvinist is intended as a mockery or celebration of celebration of Proud Boy culture.
00:10:00.000This is a little off topic, but were you not in a store in California recently where a vegetarian wanted to make sure that the juice that she had had no meat in it?
00:10:08.000Yeah, it was a type of wine that this guy was telling her about.
00:10:11.000And she was like, what's that made out of?
00:10:13.000And he's like, white rice, but it's not sake.
00:12:31.000Well, your album's called Red Pill, and you talk about satirical tones throughout.
00:12:38.000And I don't want you to reveal whether you were being ironic with this song or not.
00:12:42.000Please don't say so, because it's nobody's business.
00:12:45.000That's the whole thing, though, is the whole song is meant to be interpreted anyway.
00:12:51.000If you listen to all my songs, a lot of my songs, like I have a song called Naked Girls, and it's about naked girls, and it's and like nobody knows that I have five daughters.
00:13:02.000I have fun sending people in different directions on stuff, and that's what freaking art is, you know?
00:13:09.000It's supposed to be interpreted infinite number of ways, you know.
00:13:12.000Well, you think of Who Screwed Who, and you have Bob Mold, who's gay, writing all these love songs and Don't Want to Know If You Are Lonely.
00:13:21.000Do we have to now, now that we know Bob Mold is gay, do we have to make Don't Want to Know If You Are Lonely about two men in love with each other?
00:13:29.000Or are we allowed to imagine it about our ex-girlfriends or our love life?
00:14:05.000Well, the other angle, too, is what, like, your song, even if you were not being satirical and it's meant to be taken literally, there's nothing offensive in it.
00:14:32.000The whole record is called Welcome to Flat Earth.
00:14:35.000I was exploring dissonant sounds and dissonant opinions.
00:14:39.000And the whole record is filled with it.
00:14:40.000There's stuff about lizard people, there's stuff about Flat Earth.
00:14:43.000I had just heard about, like, Proud Boys was like a thing in the news that I just heard about.
00:14:48.000And I saw the tenets in there, and I was like, whoa, that'd be really funny to put these opinions in a song and see how people react to it.
00:14:56.000Because it's funny to me, because I knew it would be offensive, but I also knew that line by line, there isn't anything actually offensive in it.
00:15:04.000And so, and even just, I've got songs about lizard people and flat earth and getting red-pilled.
00:15:11.000They're all culturally relevant things that people are talking about.
00:15:14.000I'm trying to just like capitalize on stuff that I thought was hilarious.
00:15:22.000Isn't it strange that someone can watch Dexter and they can watch whatever his name is, Anthony Michael Hall, sever someone's head and put them in a bag, and that's someone you can identify with.
00:15:32.000Or Tony Soprano, who murders people all the time.
00:18:31.000Well, just, I mean, that's the thing is the whole like, the thing that I'm now being accused of, I've already been called a white supremacist a few times.
00:18:40.000I've been, you know, the thing that I'm being accused of of being like fascist and all that stuff.
00:18:45.000The thing that, I'm starting to think that people that are calling people that are actually that.
00:19:02.000I'm, I used to be in that world so much.
00:19:05.000So I, my initial reaction was, oh, oh, crap, I'm in trouble.
00:19:10.000You know, I need to give them a response.
00:19:12.000But now, now I'm, the more I'm thinking on it, I'm like, dude, I don't owe them a response.
00:19:15.000This is ridiculous for them to like ask for the intention of my song and basically also pick a political side too, which I don't really belong on it.
00:20:22.000I don't think these people understand, too, that they're next.
00:20:26.000When you set up a scenario, a fascist scenario where I can't help but think, by the way, that me tweeting that song was a reason they removed it.
00:21:15.000And once they establish this world that if someone tweets your song and you don't like that person's politics, then that artist has to be punished.
00:21:24.000Once you start making those parameters, you're going to suffer.
00:21:27.000Like they get info wars off of Apple and Facebook and everything.
00:21:44.000My thing is like, why can't people just get accused of being an ass?
00:21:48.000I mean, I think that's so much, that's so much more, like, if you're going to broadly accuse people of stuff, that's the more accurate thing to say.
00:21:55.000It's like, if you want to say that I'm an ass or say that whatever, just jumping straight to Nazi is, that's like a, that's, that's a form of Holocaust denial.
00:22:56.000But first and foremost, I've discovered a new hot chick that I'm very attracted to.
00:23:02.000And if my wife were ever to die in a plane crash and this woman were to become deaf and blind, and I was volunteering at the Deaf and Blind Institute, and she had a bad lapse of judgment.
00:24:59.000Like, you're wearing it on the show, which is slightly annoying, but it was on all-matching outfit in his home, which was also Jennifer Anison's home.
00:25:08.000Dude, you're literally banging Jennifer Anison right now.
00:28:04.000What I'm saying is they're not threatening.
00:28:07.000What Charlie Kirk does is he'll say like, there was 7,000 illegals arrested last year, 6,000 for drug trafficking, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:28:55.000They get on the horn and they're so good with their $500 iPhones, these communists who hate capitalism, that they swoop in and get downright vicious.
00:29:03.000And by the way, Charlie Kirk doesn't strike me as a brawler.
00:29:06.000He also seems to be lacking some chivalry when it comes to Candace.
00:29:11.000If I was with Candace at that thing, I'd make sure she was behind me at all times, ready for a fight.
00:29:16.000But he lets her wander off, which is, I can tell he's not a brawler.
00:29:20.000So I think the far left, the alt left, can sniff out women, old people, non-brawlers.
00:29:26.000And then that's when they really ramp it up because they know they're not going to get punched.
00:29:29.000If this ever happens to me, and God forbid I'm with my kids, I am going to jail.
00:30:44.000So Candace goes, I hate, I'm against big government.
00:30:48.000And then the person on the microphone on the bullhorn goes, what's the matter with big government?
00:30:53.000Is it that part of big government is, and then can't think of anything.
00:30:57.000And then they're screaming at this black woman, F white supremacy.
00:31:02.000And then this dude, Jesse Ben, tweets out, because I tweeted, I said, black woman, black conservative, goes for breakfast and is immediately attacked by a mob of white people screaming F white supremacy at her.
00:31:15.000And Jesse Benn, who you can just tell is short by his tweets, stop doing that.
00:31:57.000I think it might be because their grandfathers had justified PTSD from World War II and they feel bad that they didn't have that experience.
00:32:19.000I think he's the guy that got Sam Hyde booted from Adult Swim.
00:32:22.000By the way, Sam Hyde was booted from Adult Swim based on the assumption, Joe Bernstein's assumption, That he was hiding swastikas in the show, hiding alt-right messages.
00:36:03.000But the New York Times said that there was weapons of mass destruction when there wasn't, and that led to millions of deaths and two countries irrevocably destroyed.
00:36:14.000We've got 60 Minutes CBS talking about fake documents with George Bush that he didn't serve in the Army, which was untrue, but they put it on 60 Minutes.
00:36:24.000We've got this whole Russia collusion lie going on in the media.
00:36:28.000The mainstream media makes way more mistakes than Alex.
00:38:35.000So as you noted, when Alex Jones posted the video you described saying that the survivors of the Parkland massacre were crisis actors, that violated our harassment policy.
00:38:46.000We have a specific policy that says if you say a well-documented violent attack didn't happen and you use the name or image of survivors or victims of that attack, that is a malicious attack and it violates our policy.
00:38:58.000In terms of conspiracy theory content generally, our goal is to promote authoritative content to our users.
00:39:03.000So we have two principles that guide the way here.
00:39:06.000That's the first one is we want to provide users with authoritative, trustworthy information.
00:41:11.000And if you have a case that goes right up to the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court will err on your freedom.
00:41:19.000However, when we have this mob mentality and they decide people need to be fired, Ty Richards has to be shut down, when the mob gets you fired, makes you bankrupt, gets you divorced, threatens your kids, all that stuff, who cares if it's the government or the mob?