Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - S03E28 - SECOND PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE [2020-10-23 - S03E28 - SECOND PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE]

00:00:33.000 Great wall of China.

00:00:36.000 Hey guys, welcome to the live stream.

00:00:37.000 Let's get it up as soon as possible.

00:00:39.000 We will be analyzing Joe and Donnie as they fight with a mute button.

00:00:45.000 Believe me, and I am always right.

00:00:48.000 I want to make it clear, though, before we start that this show has no political bias.

00:00:54.000 We don't know who we're voting for.

00:00:56.000 Maybe Biden will win and Biden will be our guy.

00:00:58.000 Maybe Donald will win.

00:01:00.000 We want to keep this right down the middle because Trump just seems like a regular guy to me.

00:01:08.000 Let's see what they have to say.

00:01:13.000 The first question tonight will go to President Trump, kicking off the final showdown in a race that almost 50 million Americans have already voted.

00:01:22.000 Extraordinary.

00:01:23.000 Tonight's debate is supposed to stick to half a dozen topics selected by the moderator, Christian Welker, who we just saw enter.

00:01:29.000 But of course, this is 2020, and anything can happen.

00:01:32.000 Based on what we saw the first time around, we've got 90 minutes of debate between these two candidates tonight.

00:01:38.000 We also have a stocked panel.

00:01:40.000 Let's go to Chris Wallace.

00:01:41.000 Chris, you've been on this stage.

00:01:43.000 You know what Kristen Welker is facing at this very moment.

00:01:48.000 Tell us about that.

00:01:51.000 Well, I was thinking about it.

00:01:52.000 I can't help.

00:01:53.000 I think every moderator ends up feeling happy for my night in shining off.

00:02:00.000 She had what I had, which is a loose-leaf black notebook, and you've got tabs in each section, and you've got your questions, you've got your facts to back up the questions.

00:02:09.000 So you've come in with a plan.

00:02:10.000 You're prepared.

00:02:11.000 And frankly, right now.

00:02:12.000 We're going to keep streaming, but the site is down again.

00:02:15.000 Remember what happened last time?

00:02:16.000 Just get yourself ready. 1.00

00:02:17.000 For fuck's sake. 0.99

00:02:19.000 Where we got swarms? 1.00

00:02:25.000 Can you watch the show?

00:02:28.000 We're recording right now, so this will be available in posterity.

00:02:32.000 Dana.

00:02:33.000 But what if you go on the site, on the app to live?

00:02:37.000 I don't even know if you could one president and one who wants to be president.

00:02:41.000 It's an incumbent president at this point who's fighting to hold on to his job.

00:02:45.000 When I put the punch live button, nothing happens.

00:02:50.000 We can't even watch pre-recorded videos.

00:02:53.000 Let's see.

00:02:54.000 Like I'm trying to pull up a sofa.

00:02:57.000 As it is the latest thing to watch there, the site won't load on my Chrome.

00:03:02.000 On my app, it says loading, loading.

00:03:05.000 Yeah, no.

00:03:08.000 This is not good, folks.

00:03:09.000 This was a timed attack because when we did the pre-stream, about 30 seconds to a minute long pre-stream, it worked just fine.

00:03:17.000 It's almost like they set bots to overwhelm the site.

00:03:21.000 I think from what we see in the papers.

00:03:24.000 Happened last time.

00:03:26.000 Our guy's working on it.

00:03:28.000 And last night we were live with no problems.

00:03:30.000 Somebody said...

00:03:31.000 But, you know, App Live is good now.

00:03:35.000 I've been in the backstage of six months.

00:03:38.000 Okay, people are saying that they're watching from the app now.

00:03:40.000 Oh, good.

00:03:40.000 The app is back up.

00:03:45.000 Folks, while we were down, I decided I am supporting Trump.

00:03:49.000 I saw myself back in the monitor, and I saw the hat and the shirt, and I thought, that looks great.

00:03:55.000 Actually, he doesn't look great, does it?

00:03:57.000 What is with these Trump hats?

00:03:58.000 Oh, you know what?

00:04:00.000 All right, here's another thing, real quick.

00:04:02.000 It's because of yourself, if you're talking to me.

00:04:04.000 It's because he has a lot of hair.

00:04:05.000 But like he designed them to be.

00:04:07.000 Because my hair will come.

00:04:08.000 Oh, so they're for people with big hair?

00:04:10.000 Well, you try this on and tell me.

00:04:11.000 Oh, it's perfect.

00:04:14.000 I want to make it.

00:04:15.000 So the people that already were on the site, it works for.

00:04:19.000 Now, anybody new coming in between President Donald J. Trump and former advice, President Joe Biden, for big hair dudes.

00:04:31.000 It is conducted under health and safety protocols designed by the Commission's health security advisor.

00:04:37.000 The audience here in the hall has promised to remain silent.

00:04:41.000 No cheers, booze, or other interruptions.

00:04:43.000 They promise.

00:04:44.000 Right now, as we welcome to the stage former Vice President Joe Biden and President Donald J. Trump.

00:04:58.000 Oh, already with the COVID.

00:05:00.000 We make sure the mask is just coming off.

00:05:03.000 Did Trump do that?

00:05:04.000 No?

00:05:04.000 Nice.

00:05:05.000 I've noticed people shake hands now as a way of saying I'm for Trump and I don't believe COVID is a big deal.

00:05:13.000 And I do want to say a very good evening to both of you.

00:05:16.000 This debate will cover six major topics.

00:05:19.000 At the beginning of each section, each candidate will have two minutes uninterrupted to answer my first question.

00:05:25.000 The debate commission will then turn on.

00:05:27.000 She freaked out when Cernovich went into the press room and culture just put on their Instagram saying that she melted down.

00:05:52.000 And we will begin with the fight against the coronavirus.

00:05:54.000 President Trump, the first question is for you.

00:05:57.000 The country is heading into a dangerous new phase.

00:06:00.000 More than 40,000 Americans are in the hospital tonight with COVID, including record numbers here in Tennessee.

00:06:06.000 And since the two of you last shared a stage, 16,000 Americans have died from COVID.

00:06:12.000 So please be specific.

00:06:13.000 How would you lead the country during this next stage of the coronavirus crisis?

00:06:17.000 Two minutes, uninterrupted.

00:06:19.000 So as you know, 2.2 million people modeled out were expected to die.

00:06:25.000 We closed up the greatest economy in the world in order to fight this horrible disease that came from China. 1.00

00:06:32.000 It's a worldwide pandemic.

00:06:34.000 It's all over the world.

00:06:35.000 You see the spikes in Europe and many other places.

00:06:39.000 If you notice, the mortality rate is down 85 percent.

00:06:44.000 The excess mortality rate is way down and much lower than almost any other country.

00:06:50.000 And we're fighting it and we're fighting it hard.

00:06:52.000 There is a spike.

00:06:52.000 There was a spike in Florida and it's now gone.

00:06:55.000 There was a very big spike in Texas.

00:06:57.000 It's now gone.

00:06:58.000 There was a very big spike in the future.

00:06:59.000 What should he have done differently?

00:07:01.000 Why are they so mad at it?

00:07:02.000 There are some spikes and surges in the middle of the market.

00:07:04.000 The narrative with the left is that he killed 200,000 people.

00:07:07.000 And by the way, I can't get on censored.tv on my computer.

00:07:09.000 It's going to be announced within weeks, and it's going to be delivered.

00:07:13.000 We have Operation Warp Speed, which is the military is going to distribute the vaccine.

00:07:19.000 I can tell you from personal experience that I was in the hospital, I had it, and I got better.

00:07:26.000 And I will tell you that I had something that they gave me, a therapeutic, I guess they would call it.

00:07:31.000 Some people could say it was a cure.

00:07:34.000 But I was in for a short period of time and I got better very fast or I wouldn't be here tonight.

00:07:39.000 And now they say I'm immune.

00:07:40.000 Whether it's four months or a lifetime, nobody's been able to say that.

00:07:43.000 But I'm immune.

00:07:44.000 More and more people.

00:07:46.000 So it's still not working.

00:07:47.000 Some people that have started early, they're good.

00:07:51.000 Anybody else trying to come in nay good.

00:07:54.000 So in a minute, it's going to work.

00:07:55.000 Many countries will have been able to do.

00:07:59.000 If you take a look at what we've done in terms of goggles and masks and gowns and everything else, and in particular ventilators, we're now making ventilators all over the world, thousands and thousands a month.

00:08:12.000 We shut down the country.

00:08:14.000 We've possibly permanently destroyed the economy.

00:08:17.000 New York City, I don't see how it could recover.

00:08:19.000 That wasn't enough?

00:08:20.000 Okay, former Vice President Biden, to you, how would you lead the country out of this crisis?

00:08:25.000 You have two minutes uninterrupted.

00:08:28.000 220,000 Americans dead.

00:08:32.000 If you hear nothing else, I say tonight, hear this.

00:08:36.000 Anyone who's responsible for not taking control, in fact, not saying I take no responsibility initially, anyone who's responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America.

00:08:49.000 That's a good pitch.

00:08:50.000 We're in a situation where there are 1,000 deaths a day now.

00:08:55.000 1,000 deaths a day.

00:08:56.000 And there are over 70,000 new cases per day.

00:09:02.000 Compared to...

00:09:03.000 Sounds like a low mortality rate.

00:09:05.000 As the New England Medical Journal said, they're starting from a very low rate.

00:09:09.000 We're starting from a very high rate.

00:09:11.000 The expectation is we'll have another 200,000 Americans dead by time between now and the end of the year.

00:09:18.000 Betime.

00:09:19.000 If we just wore these masks, the President's own advisors have told him we could save 100,000 lives.

00:09:26.000 And we're in a circumstance where the President still has no plan, no comprehensive plan.

00:09:33.000 What I would do is make sure we have everyone encouraged to wear a mask.

00:09:38.000 Everyone wears a mask.

00:09:40.000 And the places they don't, like Florida, That we set up national standards as to how to open up schools and open up businesses so they can be safe and give them the wherewithal, the financial resources, to be able to do that.

00:09:55.000 We're in a situation now where the New England Medical Journal, one of the most serious journals in the whole world, said for the first time ever that the way this president has responded to this crisis has been absolutely tragic.

00:10:10.000 And so, folks, I will set that up.

00:10:12.000 I will end this.

00:10:13.000 I will make sure.

00:10:16.000 President Trump, I'd like to follow up with you in your comments.

00:10:19.000 You talked about taking a therapeutic, I assume you're referencing reducing.

00:10:38.000 Johnson Johnson is doing very well.

00:10:40.000 Moderna is doing very well.

00:10:42.000 Pfizer is doing very well.

00:10:43.000 And we have numerous others.

00:10:45.000 Then we also have others that we're working on very closely with other countries, in particular Europe.

00:10:50.000 Let me follow up with you.

00:10:51.000 And because this is new information, you have said a vaccine is coming soon within weeks now.

00:10:55.000 Your own officials say it could take well into 2021 at the earliest for enough Americans to get vaccinated.

00:11:01.000 And even then, they say the country will be wearing masks and distancing into 2022.

00:11:06.000 Is your timeline realistic?

00:11:07.000 No, I think my timeline is going to be more accurate.

00:11:10.000 I don't know that they're counting on the military the way I do, but we have our generals lined up, one in particular, that's the head of logistics.

00:11:18.000 And this is a very easy distribution for him.

00:11:20.000 He's ready to go as soon as we have the vaccine.

00:11:23.000 And we expect to have 100 million vials as soon as we have the vaccine.

00:11:27.000 He's ready to go.

00:11:27.000 I'm not taking the vaccine.

00:11:29.000 No. 2022 with the mask and social distancing.

00:11:32.000 And this is more like wear a mask.

00:11:33.000 You can't go anywhere in New York without a mask on.

00:11:41.000 Make sure it's totally transparent.

00:11:44.000 Have the science.

00:11:46.000 Know it.

00:11:46.000 Look at it.

00:11:47.000 Go through all the processes.

00:11:48.000 And by the way, this is the same fellow who told you this is going to end by Easter last time.

00:11:53.000 This is the same fellow who told you that, don't worry, we're going to end this by the summer.

00:11:57.000 We're about to go into a dark winter, a dark winter.

00:12:01.000 And he has no clear plan, and there's no prospect that there's going to be a vaccine available for the majority of the American people before the middle of next year.

00:12:09.000 President Trump, your reaction, he says you have no plan.

00:12:11.000 We're not going to have a dark winter at all.

00:12:13.000 We're opening up our country.

00:12:15.000 We've learned and studied and understand the disease, which we didn't at the beginning.

00:12:20.000 When I closed and banned China from coming in heavily infected and then ultimately Europe, but China was in January months later, he was saying I was xenophobic.

00:12:29.000 I did it too soon.

00:12:30.000 Now he's saying, oh, I should have moved quicker.

00:12:34.000 But he didn't move quicker.

00:12:35.000 He was months behind me, many months behind me.

00:12:39.000 And frankly, he ran the H1N1 swine flu, and it was a total disaster, far less lethal, but it was a total disaster.

00:12:48.000 Had that had this kind of numbers, 700,000 people would be dead right now, but it was a far less lethal disease.

00:13:00.000 Look, his own person who ran that for him, who, as you know, was his chief of staff, said it was catastrophic.

00:13:10.000 It was horrible.

00:13:11.000 We didn't know what we were doing.

00:13:13.000 Now he comes up and he tells us how to do this.

00:13:16.000 Also, everything that he said about the way, every single move that he said we should make, that's what we've done.

00:13:22.000 We've done all of it.

00:13:23.000 But he was way behind us.

00:13:24.000 Vice President Biden, your response.

00:13:26.000 My response is he is xenophobic, but not because he shut down access from China.

00:13:31.000 And he did it late after 40 countries had already done that.

00:13:34.000 In addition to that, what he did, he made sure that we had 44 people that were in there in China trying to get the Wuhan to determine what exactly the source was.

00:13:42.000 What did the President say in January?

00:13:44.000 He said, no, he said, this is, he's being transparent.

00:13:47.000 The president of China is being transparent.

00:13:50.000 We owe him a debt of gratitude.

00:13:51.000 We have to thank him.

00:13:53.000 And then what happened was, we started talking about using the Defense Act to make sure we go out and get whatever is needed out there to protect people.

00:14:01.000 And again, I go back to this.

00:14:03.000 He had nothing.

00:14:04.000 He did virtually nothing.

00:14:06.000 And then he gets out of the hospital and he talks about, don't worry, it's all going to be over soon.

00:14:13.000 Come on.

00:14:14.000 There's not another serious scientist in the world who thinks it's going to be over soon.

00:14:18.000 President Trump, your reaction?

00:14:19.000 I don't say over soon.

00:14:20.000 I say we're learning to live with it.

00:14:21.000 We have no choice.

00:14:22.000 We can't lock ourselves up in a basement like Joe does.

00:14:27.000 He has the ability to lock himself up.

00:14:29.000 I don't know.

00:14:30.000 He's obviously made a lot of money someplace.

00:14:32.000 But he has this thing about living in a basement.

00:14:35.000 People can't do that.

00:14:36.000 By the way, I, as I said, I'd go to Trump in a basement or in a beautiful room in the White House and go away for a year and a half until it disappears.

00:14:44.000 I can't do that.

00:14:45.000 And Kirsten, every meeting I had, every meeting I had, and I'd meet a lot of families, including Gold Star families and military families, every meeting I had, and I had to meet them.

00:14:56.000 I had to.

00:14:56.000 It would be horrible to have canceled everything.

00:14:59.000 I said, you know, this is dangerous.

00:15:01.000 And you catch it.

00:15:02.000 And, you know, I caught it.

00:15:04.000 I learned a lot.

00:15:05.000 I learned a lot.

00:15:06.000 Great doctors, great hospitals.

00:15:09.000 And now I recovered.

00:15:10.000 99.9 of young people recover.

00:15:14.000 99% of people recover.

00:15:17.000 We have to recover.

00:15:18.000 We can't close up our nation.

00:15:20.000 We have to open our school.

00:15:22.000 And we can't close up our nation or you're not going to have a nation.

00:15:25.000 And of course, the CDC has said young people can get sick with COVID-19.

00:15:30.000 The whole angle of this didn't do enough is so weird because look outside.

00:15:34.000 Look at the plexiglass everywhere.

00:15:37.000 I have a question.

00:15:37.000 Number one, he says that we're learning to live with it.

00:15:42.000 People are learning to die with it.

00:15:44.000 You folks home will have an empty chair at the kitchen table this morning.

00:15:47.000 That man and your wife going to bed tonight and reaching over to try to touch their, out of habit, where their wife or husband was.

00:15:53.000 Smell their kid.

00:15:54.000 Learning to live with it.

00:15:55.000 Come on.

00:15:56.000 You don't even sniff kids anymore.

00:15:58.000 Because he has never said, you see, you said it's dangerous.

00:16:01.000 When's the last time?

00:16:02.000 Is it really dangerous still?

00:16:03.000 Are we dangerous?

00:16:04.000 You tell the people it's dangerous now.

00:16:06.000 What should they do about the danger?

00:16:08.000 And you say, I take no responsibility.

00:16:10.000 Let me talk about your team.

00:16:11.000 Excuse me, I take full responsibility.

00:16:15.000 It's not my fault that it came here.

00:16:17.000 It's China's fault. 1.00

00:16:18.000 And you know what?

00:16:18.000 It's not Joe's fault that it came here either.

00:16:21.000 It's China's fault. 1.00

00:16:22.000 They kept it from going into the rest of China for the most part, but they didn't keep it from coming out to the world, including Europe and ourselves.

00:16:30.000 Vice President Biden.

00:16:31.000 Nice.

00:16:32.000 The fact is that when we knew it was coming, when it hit, what happened?

00:16:37.000 What did the president say?

00:16:38.000 He said, don't worry.

00:16:39.000 It's going to go away.

00:16:40.000 Be gone by Easter.

00:16:41.000 Don't worry.

00:16:42.000 The warm weather.

00:16:43.000 Don't worry.

00:16:44.000 Maybe inject bleach.

00:16:45.000 He said he was kidding when he said that.

00:16:46.000 A lot of people thought it was serious.

00:16:48.000 A whole range of things the president said.

00:16:50.000 Even today, he thinks We are in control.

00:16:54.000 We're about to lose two.

00:16:55.000 How could we possibly be doing more?

00:16:56.000 I don't know about you in your state, but here in New York, New York City just started getting busy again about three days ago.

00:17:03.000 I was in traffic yesterday for the first time.

00:17:05.000 I shouldn't have closed.

00:17:06.000 In months.

00:17:07.000 I shouldn't have closed.

00:17:08.000 And that went on for months.

00:17:10.000 Nancy Pelosi said the same thing.

00:17:11.000 She was dancing on the streets in Chinatown in San Francisco.

00:17:15.000 But when I closed, he said, this is a terrible thing.

00:17:18.000 You xenophobic.

00:17:19.000 I think he called me racist even. 0.89

00:17:22.000 And because I was closing it to China.

00:17:24.000 Now he says I should have closed it earlier.

00:17:26.000 It just, Joe, it doesn't work.

00:17:28.000 I didn't say either of those things.

00:17:29.000 You certainly did.

00:17:32.000 I talked about his xenophobia in a different context.

00:17:34.000 It wasn't about closing the border to Chinese coming to the United States.

00:17:39.000 I want to talk about both of your different strategies to handle this.

00:17:42.000 He thought I shouldn't have closed the border.

00:17:44.000 That's obvious.

00:17:46.000 Do you want to respond to that quickly, Vice President?

00:17:48.000 Okay.

00:17:49.000 Let's talk about your different strategies toward dealing with this.

00:17:52.000 Mr. Vice President, you suggested you would support new shutdowns if scientists recommended it.

00:17:56.000 What do you say to Americans who are fearful that the cost of shutdowns, the impact on the economy, the higher rates of hunger, depression, domestic and bars for me?

00:18:08.000 Three favorite bars.

00:18:11.000 It's his ineptitude that caused the country to have to shut down in large part.

00:18:16.000 Why businesses have gone under, why schools are closed, why so many people have lost their living, and why they're concerned.

00:18:22.000 Wait a minute.

00:18:23.000 All these people have shut down because they're trying to stop COVID.

00:18:26.000 So he's saying at the same time he's saying Trump didn't do enough, he's saying Trump did so much that it devastated the economy.

00:18:32.000 I guess we can't have it both ways.

00:18:34.000 Maybe what he means is because he underestimated it, people decided to not social distance as much or use masks. 0.99

00:18:40.000 So that's why we had to shut shit down. 0.97

00:18:42.000 I guess that's an angle. 0.99

00:18:44.000 We need standards.

00:18:45.000 The standard is if you have a reproduction rate in a community that's above a certain level, everybody says slow up.

00:18:52.000 More social distancing.

00:18:54.000 Do not open bars and do not open gymnasiums.

00:18:57.000 Do not open until you get this under control, under more control.

00:19:01.000 But when you do open, give the people the capacity to be able to open and have the capacity to do it safely.

00:19:07.000 For example, schools.

00:19:08.000 Schools, they need a lot of money to open.

00:19:10.000 They need to deal with ventilation systems. 0.95

00:19:12.000 They need to deal with smaller classes, more teachers, more pods.

00:19:15.000 And he's refused to support that money, or at least up to now.

00:19:19.000 Let's talk about schools.

00:19:20.000 President Trump.

00:19:21.000 I think we have to respond, if I might.

00:19:22.000 Please, and then I have a follow-up.

00:19:23.000 Thank you.

00:19:24.000 I appreciate that.

00:19:25.000 Look, all he does is talk about shutdowns.

00:19:27.000 But forget about him.

00:19:28.000 His Democrat governors, Cuomo and New York.

00:19:31.000 You look at what's going on in California.

00:19:33.000 You look at Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Democrats, Democrats all.

00:19:38.000 They're shut down so tight and they're dying.

00:19:41.000 They're dying.

00:19:43.000 And he supports all these people.

00:19:44.000 All he talks about is shutdowns.

00:19:46.000 No, we're not going to shut down, and we have to open our schools.

00:19:49.000 And it's like, as an example, I have a young son.

00:19:52.000 He also tested positive.

00:19:55.000 By the time I spoke to the doctor the second time, he was fine.

00:19:58.000 It just went away.

00:19:59.000 Young people, I guess it's their immune system. 1.00

00:20:02.000 Let me follow up with you, President Trump.

00:20:03.000 You've demanded schools open in person and insist they can do it safely.

00:20:06.000 But just yesterday, Boston became the latest city to move its public school system entirely online after a coronavirus spike.

00:20:14.000 What is your message to parents who worry that sending their children to school will endanger not only their kids, but also their teachers and families?

00:20:20.000 I want to open the schools.

00:20:22.000 The transmittal rate to the teachers is very small, but I want to open the schools.

00:20:28.000 We have to open our country.

00:20:29.000 We're not going to have a country.

00:20:30.000 You can't do this.

00:20:31.000 We can't. 0.99

00:20:32.000 Teachers are fat.

00:20:33.000 This is a massive country with a massive economy. 0.97

00:20:37.000 People are losing their jobs.

00:20:39.000 They're committing suicide.

00:20:40.000 There's depression, alcohol, drugs at a level that nobody's ever seen before.

00:20:45.000 Lack of alcohol.

00:20:46.000 Abuse, tremendous abuse.

00:20:48.000 We have to open our country.

00:20:49.000 Enough alcohol abuse.

00:20:51.000 Often the cure cannot be worse than the problem itself.

00:20:54.000 And that's what's happening.

00:20:56.000 And he wants to close down.

00:20:57.000 He'll close down the country if one person in our massive bureaucracy says we should close it down.

00:21:05.000 Vice President Biden, you're aware of it.

00:21:06.000 It's simply not true.

00:21:07.000 We ought to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.

00:21:10.000 We ought to be able to safely open.

00:21:12.000 But when they need resources to open, you need to be able to, for example, if you're going to open a business, have social distancing within the business.

00:21:20.000 You need to have, if you have a restaurant, you need to have plexiglass dividers so people cannot infect one another.

00:21:26.000 You need to be in a position where you can take testing rapidly and know whether a person is, in fact, to be able to trace.

00:21:35.000 And we got the results in 24 hours.

00:21:36.000 All the resources that are needed.

00:21:38.000 Temperature guns.

00:21:39.000 And that is not inconsistent.

00:21:40.000 My kids go to school. 1.00

00:21:41.000 Every single one of them has a temperature gun as they walk into the fucking school. 1.00

00:21:45.000 And by the way, all you teachers out there, not that many of you are going to die, so don't worry about it. 0.99

00:21:50.000 So don't worry about it.

00:21:52.000 Come on.

00:21:52.000 President Trump, let me follow up with you quickly.

00:21:54.000 By the way, I will say this.

00:21:55.000 If you go and look at what's happened to New York, it's a ghost town.

00:22:00.000 It's a ghost town.

00:22:01.000 And when you talk about plexiglass, these are restaurants that are dying.

00:22:05.000 These are businesses with no money.

00:22:07.000 Putting a plexiglass is unbelievably expensive.

00:22:10.000 And it's not the answer.

00:22:12.000 I mean, you're going to sit there in a cubicle wrapped around with plastic.

00:22:16.000 These are businesses that are dying, Joe.

00:22:18.000 You can't do that to people.

00:22:20.000 You just can't.

00:22:21.000 Take a look at New York and what's happened to my wonderful city for so many years.

00:22:26.000 I loved it.

00:22:27.000 It was vibrant.

00:22:27.000 It's dying.

00:22:28.000 Everyone's leaving New York.

00:22:30.000 Take a look at what New York has done.

00:22:33.000 The taxes are going to suffer from that because there's less taxpayers.

00:22:35.000 And I don't look at this in terms of the way he does.

00:22:38.000 Blue states and red states.

00:22:39.000 They're all the United States.

00:22:41.000 And look at the states that are having such a spike in the coronavirus.

00:22:45.000 They're the red states.

00:22:47.000 They're the states.

00:22:47.000 They don't do that.

00:22:48.000 They're the states in the Midwest.

00:22:50.000 That's where the spike is occurring significantly.

00:22:52.000 But they're all Americans.

00:22:54.000 They're all Americans.

00:22:55.000 And what we have to do is say, wear these masks, number one, make sure we get the help that the businesses need that has money's already been passed to do that.

00:23:05.000 It's been out there since the beginning of the summer, and nothing's happened.

00:23:09.000 President, New York has lost more than 40,000 people, 11,000 people in nursing homes.

00:23:16.000 President Trump wants to say spike.

00:23:18.000 Take a look at what's happening in Pennsylvania, where they've had it Closed.

00:23:23.000 Take a look at what's happening with your friend in Michigan, where her husband's the only one allowed to do anything.

00:23:28.000 It's been like a prison.

00:23:30.000 Now it was just ruled unconstitutional.

00:23:33.000 Take a look at North Carolina.

00:23:34.000 They're having spikes and they've been closed and they're getting killed financially.

00:23:39.000 We can't let that happen, Joe.

00:23:41.000 You can't let that happen.

00:23:42.000 We have to open up and we understand the disease.

00:23:45.000 We have to protect our seniors.

00:23:47.000 We have to protect our elderly.

00:23:48.000 We have to protect especially our seniors with heart problems and diabetes problems.

00:23:53.000 And we will protect them.

00:23:54.000 We have the best testing in the world by far.

00:23:57.000 That's why we have so many cases.

00:23:58.000 Let me follow up with you before we move on to our next section, President Trump.

00:24:02.000 This week you called Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's best-known infectious disease expert, quote, a disaster. 1.00

00:24:08.000 You described him and other medical experts as, quote, idiots. 1.00

00:24:11.000 If you're not listening to them, who are you listening to right there? 1.00

00:24:14.000 I'm listening to all of them, including Anthony.

00:24:16.000 I get along very well with Anthony.

00:24:17.000 But he did say, don't wear masks.

00:24:21.000 He did say, as you know, this is not going to be a problem.

00:24:26.000 I think he's a Democrat, but that's okay.

00:24:28.000 He said, this is not going to be a problem.

00:24:31.000 He doesn't wear a mask, and he doesn't wear a mask.

00:24:32.000 When Joe says that, I said, Anthony Fauci said, and others, and many others, and I'm not knocking him a lot.

00:24:39.000 Nobody knew.

00:24:40.000 Look, nobody knew what this thing was.

00:24:42.000 Nobody knew where it was coming from, what it was.

00:24:44.000 We've learned a lot.

00:24:46.000 But Anthony said, don't wear masks.

00:24:48.000 Now he wants to wear masks.

00:24:49.000 Anthony also said, if you look back, exact words.

00:24:52.000 Here's his exact words.

00:24:53.000 This is no problem.

00:24:54.000 This is going to go away soon.

00:24:55.000 So he's allowed to make mistakes.

00:24:57.000 He happens to be a good person.

00:24:58.000 Vice President Biden, your response quickly, and then we're going to move on to the next section.

00:25:02.000 My response is that think about what the president knew in January and didn't tell the American people.

00:25:07.000 He was told this was a serious virus, a spread in the air, and it was much worse than, much worse than the flu.

00:25:15.000 He went on record and said to one of your colleagues recorded that in fact he knew how dangerous it was, but he didn't want to tell us.

00:25:24.000 He didn't want to tell us.

00:25:27.000 Americans don't angle. 0.96

00:25:30.000 But guess what?

00:25:31.000 In the meantime, we found out in the New York Times the other day that in fact his folks went to Wall Street and said this is a really dangerous thing.

00:25:37.000 And a memo out of that meeting, not from his administration, but from some of the brokers said, sell short because we've got to get moving.

00:25:45.000 It's a dangerous problem.

00:25:46.000 Well, this is the first time.

00:25:46.000 I'm going to give you 30 seconds to respond and then we'll go to the next one.

00:25:49.000 I don't know.

00:25:50.000 Somebody went to Wall Street.

00:25:51.000 You're the one that takes all the money from Wall Street.

00:25:53.000 I don't take it.

00:25:53.000 I have.

00:25:54.000 You have raised a lot of money.

00:25:56.000 Tremendous amounts of money.

00:25:58.000 And every time you raise money, deals are made.

00:26:00.000 I could raise so much more money as president and as somebody that knows most of those people, I could call the heads of Wall Street, the heads of every company in America.

00:26:09.000 I would blow away every record.

00:26:11.000 But I don't want to do that because it puts me in a bad position.

00:26:14.000 And then you bring up Wall Street.

00:26:16.000 You shouldn't be bringing up Wall Street because you're the one that takes the money from Wall Street, not me.

00:26:21.000 I could blow away your records that, like, you wouldn't believe.

00:26:24.000 We don't need money.

00:26:25.000 We have plenty of money.

00:26:26.000 In fact, we beat Hillary Clinton with a tiny fraction of the money that she was able to do. 0.98

00:26:30.000 All right, gentlemen, we're going to continue to do that.

00:26:31.000 Don't talk about average contribution, $43.

00:26:34.000 All right, we're going to move on to our next section, which is national security.

00:26:37.000 And I do want to start with the security of our elections and some breaking news from overnight.

00:26:42.000 Just last night, top intelligence officials confirmed again that both Russia and Iran are working to influence this.

00:26:49.000 Both countries have obtained U.S. voter registration information, these officials say, and Iran sent intimidating messages to Florida voters.

00:26:58.000 This question goes to you, Mr. Vice President.

00:27:00.000 What would you do to put an end to this two minutes uninterrupted?

00:27:04.000 I made it clear, and I asked everyone else, Mr. Biden, how do you feel about the G-DOG? 0.93

00:27:09.000 Any country, no matter who it is, that interferes in American elections, will pay a price.

00:27:14.000 They will pay a price.

00:27:16.000 And it's been over.

00:27:17.000 Did I tell you my theory about the emails?

00:27:19.000 No?

00:27:20.000 I think it was the Lincoln Project.

00:27:23.000 I think the Lincoln Project...

00:27:24.000 Forget saying Iran.

00:27:25.000 I hate when Russia did this. 0.50

00:27:27.000 Countries aren't people. 1.00

00:27:28.000 Who gives a shit? 0.99

00:27:29.000 Unless it was ordained by the prime minister or the president of that country. 0.99

00:27:34.000 Don't say the country did it.

00:27:35.000 I think the Lincoln Project are a bunch of amateurs.

00:27:38.000 They hired hackers.

00:27:40.000 The hackers either used an Iranian VPN or are in Iran, and they sent out the email. 1.00

00:27:48.000 Because the Lincoln Project was on us like shit on fleas, flies on shit. 0.99

00:27:54.000 For the days leading up to that, and then the second it happened, they were all about, look what the Prowboys are doing. 1.00

00:28:01.000 I'd like to see the timeline of them saying the Prowboys did this.

00:28:05.000 And when it was released, I bet it's real tight.

00:28:10.000 David Shortel tight?

00:28:11.000 His buddy.

00:28:12.000 David Shorteltite.

00:28:13.000 He's being used as a Russian pawn. 0.86

00:28:15.000 He's being fed information that is Russian, that is not true.

00:28:20.000 And then what happens?

00:28:21.000 Nothing happens.

00:28:22.000 And then you find out that everything that's going on here about Russia is wanting to make sure that I do not get elected the next president of the United States.

00:28:31.000 But Russia made the laptop?

00:28:32.000 I know them, and they know me.

00:28:35.000 I don't understand why this president is unwilling to take on Putin when he's actually paying bounties to kill American soldiers in Afghanistan, when he's engaged in activities that are trying to destabilize all of NATO.

00:28:48.000 I don't know why he doesn't do it, but it's worth asking the question.

00:28:52.000 Why isn't that being done?

00:28:53.000 Don't get into foreign policy, dude.

00:28:55.000 You're not good on foreign policy. 0.97

00:28:57.000 China is your Achilles heel. 1.00

00:28:59.000 Our sovereignty.

00:29:00.000 President Trump, same question to you.

00:29:03.000 Let me ask the question.

00:29:04.000 You're going to have two minutes to respond.

00:29:05.000 For two elections in a row now, there has been substantial interference from foreign adversaries.

00:29:09.000 What would you do in your next term to put an end to this?

00:29:12.000 Two minutes unless you're going to...

00:29:13.000 Well, let me respond to the first part, as Joe answered.

00:29:16.000 Joe got $3.5 million from Russia, and it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow, and it was the mayor of Moscow's wife.

00:29:26.000 And you got $3.5 million.

00:29:28.000 Your family got $3.5 million.

00:29:30.000 And, you know, someday you're going to have to explain why did you get $3.5 million?

00:29:34.000 I never got any money from Russia.

00:29:35.000 I don't get money from Russia.

00:29:37.000 Now, about your thing last night, I knew all about that.

00:29:40.000 And through John, who is John Redliffe, who is fantastic, DNI, he said, the one thing that's common to both of them, they both want you to lose because there has been nobody tougher to Russia between the sanctions.

00:29:56.000 It was used to make Trump supporters look bad. 0.98

00:29:58.000 He said, if you vote, don't vote for Trump, we'll kill you.

00:30:01.000 What I've done with NATO, You know, I've got the NATO countries to put up an extra $130 billion, going to $420 billion a year.

00:30:09.000 That's to guard against Russia. 0.95

00:30:10.000 I sold, while he was selling pillows and sheets, I sold tank busters to Ukraine. 0.96

00:30:16.000 There has been nobody tougher on Russia than Donald Trump.

00:30:22.000 And I'll tell you, they were so bad.

00:30:24.000 They took over the submarine port.

00:30:27.000 You remember that very well.

00:30:28.000 During your term, during you and Barack Obama, they took over a big part of what should have been Ukraine. 0.71

00:30:36.000 You handed it to them.

00:30:37.000 But you were getting a lot of money from Russia.

00:30:39.000 They were paying you a lot of money, and they probably still are.

00:30:43.000 But now, with what came out today, it's even worse.

00:30:46.000 All of the emails, the emails, the horrible emails of the kind of money that you were raking in, you and your family.

00:30:52.000 And Joe, you were vice president when some of this was happening, and it should have never happened.

00:30:58.000 And I think you owe an explanation to the American people.

00:31:01.000 Why is it?

00:31:02.000 Somebody just had a news conference a little while ago who was essentially supposed to work with you and your family, but what he said was damning.

00:31:10.000 And regardless of me, I think you have to clean it up and talk to the American people.

00:31:15.000 Maybe you can do it right now.

00:31:18.000 Vice President Biden, you may respond in a few seconds.

00:31:20.000 And then I do want to follow up on the election security.

00:31:22.000 I have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life.

00:31:27.000 We learned that this president paid 50 times the tax secret bank account with China, does business in China, and in fact is talking about me taking money.

00:31:40.000 I have not taken a single penny from any country whatsoever, ever.

00:31:45.000 Number one.

00:31:46.000 Number two, this is a president.

00:31:48.000 I have released all of my tax returns.

00:31:50.000 22 years.

00:31:51.000 Go look at them.

00:31:52.000 22 years of my tax return.

00:31:54.000 You have not released a single solitary year of your tax return.

00:31:58.000 What are you hiding?

00:32:00.000 Why are you unwilling?

00:32:01.000 The foreign countries are paying you a lot.

00:32:04.000 Russia is paying you a lot.

00:32:05.000 China is paying you a lot.

00:32:07.000 And your hotels and all your businesses all around the country, all around the world.

00:32:11.000 And China is building a new road to a golf course you have overseas.

00:32:16.000 So what's going on here?

00:32:18.000 Why don't release your tax return or stop talking about corruption?

00:32:21.000 President Trump, your response.

00:32:22.000 First of all, I called my accountants, underwrote it.

00:32:26.000 I'm going to release them as soon as we can.

00:32:28.000 I want to do it, and it'll show how successful, how great this company is, but much more important.

00:32:33.000 What have you already obtained?

00:32:34.000 People were saying $750.

00:32:37.000 I asked them a week ago, I said, what did I pay?

00:32:40.000 They said, sir, you prepaid tens of millions of dollars.

00:32:44.000 I prepaid my tax.

00:32:45.000 Tens over the last number of years.

00:32:47.000 Tens of millions of dollars I prepaid because at some point they think it's an estimate.

00:32:53.000 They think I may have to pay tax.

00:32:55.000 So I already prepaid it.

00:32:57.000 Nobody told me that.

00:32:59.000 Nobody told me that.

00:33:00.000 Excuse me.

00:33:00.000 And it wasn't written whenever they write this.

00:33:02.000 They keep talking about $750, which I think is a filing fee.

00:33:06.000 But let me just tell you, I prepaid millions and millions of dollars in taxes.

00:33:12.000 Number one.

00:33:12.000 Number two, I don't make money from China.

00:33:14.000 You do.

00:33:15.000 I don't make money from Ukraine.

00:33:17.000 You do.

00:33:18.000 I don't make money from Russia.

00:33:20.000 You made $3.5 million, Joe.

00:33:23.000 And your son gave you, they even have a statement that we have to give 10% to the big man.

00:33:29.000 You're the big man, I think.

00:33:30.000 I don't know.

00:33:31.000 Maybe you're not.

00:33:32.000 But you're the big man, I think.

00:33:33.000 Your son said we have to give 10% to the big man.

00:33:36.000 Joe, what's that all about?

00:33:37.000 It's terrible.

00:33:38.000 All right, gentlemen, I want to ask you both some questions about all of this.

00:33:41.000 I'm going to let you both respond very quickly.

00:33:43.000 You just said you spoke to your accountant about potentially releasing your taxes.

00:33:47.000 Did he tell you when you can release them?

00:33:48.000 Do you have any deadline for when you're going to release the taxes?

00:33:51.000 I get treated worse than the Tea Party got treated because I have a lot of people in there deep down in the IRS.

00:33:58.000 They treat me horribly.

00:33:59.000 We made a deal.

00:34:00.000 It was all settled until I decide to run for president.

00:34:03.000 I get treated very badly by the IRS, very unfairly.

00:34:06.000 But we had a deal all done.

00:34:08.000 As soon as we're completed with the deal, I want to release it.

00:34:11.000 But I have paid millions and millions of dollars, and it's worse than paying.

00:34:17.000 I paid in advance.

00:34:18.000 It's called pre-paying your taxes.

00:34:19.000 I paid in advance.

00:34:20.000 I want to ask you both about questions regarding your potential foreign entanglements and questions that have been raised to give you both a chance to talk about this more broadly.

00:34:29.000 Respond very quickly, and then I'll get to my question.

00:34:32.000 Why did he have been saying this for four years?

00:34:35.000 Show us.

00:34:36.000 Just show us.

00:34:37.000 Stop playing around.

00:34:38.000 Dude, you've been doing this.

00:34:39.000 He's been saying for four years.

00:34:41.000 Nobody knows it, Mr. President.

00:34:43.000 What they do know is you're not paying your taxes or you're paying taxes that are so low.

00:34:49.000 When last time he said what he paid, he said, I only pay that little because I'm smart.

00:34:54.000 I know how to game the system.

00:34:56.000 Come on.

00:34:57.000 That's good.

00:34:57.000 Come on, folks.

00:34:59.000 President Trump, and then I want to get away from that.

00:35:01.000 Coulter agrees with Biden on this.

00:35:03.000 I've put through a phony witch hunt for three years.

00:35:08.000 It started before I even got elected.

00:35:11.000 They spied on my campaign.

00:35:13.000 No president should ever have to go through what I went through.

00:35:16.000 Let me just say this.

00:35:18.000 Mueller and 18 angry Democrats and FBI agents all over the place spent $48 million.

00:35:26.000 They went through everything I had, including my tax returns, and they found absolutely no collusion and nothing wrong.

00:35:34.000 $48 million.

00:35:35.000 I guarantee you, if I spent $1 million on you, Joe, I could find plenty wrong.

00:35:39.000 Because the kind of things that you've done and the kind of monies that your family has taken, I mean, your brother made money in Iraq.

00:35:47.000 Millions of dollars.

00:35:48.000 Your other brother is a lot of people.

00:35:49.000 This is covering the plot against the president, by the way.

00:35:52.000 And they say you get some of it.

00:35:53.000 And you do that.

00:35:55.000 You have houses all over the place.

00:35:56.000 You live very well.

00:35:57.000 All right, gentlemen, let me just ask some questions about this broadly.

00:36:00.000 Vice President Biden, there have been questions about the work your son has done in China and for a Ukrainian energy company when you were voting for the United States.

00:36:07.000 I'm shocked to bring this up.

00:36:08.000 Was anything about those relationships inappropriate or unethical?

00:36:12.000 Nothing was unethical.

00:36:14.000 Here's what the deal.

00:36:15.000 Here's what the deal.

00:36:16.000 Here's what the deal is.

00:36:17.000 Here's what we are.

00:36:19.000 We had this whole question about whether or not, because he was on the board, I later learned of a Burisma, a company, that somehow I had done something wrong.

00:36:28.000 Yet, every single solitary person when he was going through his impeachment, testifying under oath who worked for him, said, I did my job impeccably.

00:36:37.000 I carried out U.S. policy.

00:36:39.000 Not one single solitary thing was out of line.

00:36:43.000 Not a single thing.

00:36:44.000 Number one.

00:36:45.000 Number two, the guy who got in trouble in Ukraine was this guy trying to bribe the Ukrainian government to say something negative about me.

00:36:54.000 He would not do and did not do because it never, ever, ever happened.

00:36:59.000 My son has not made money in terms of this thing about, what are you talking about?

00:37:05.000 China.

00:37:06.000 I have not had it.

00:37:07.000 The only guy made money from China is this guy.

00:37:10.000 He's the only one.

00:37:10.000 Oh, he worked in China, developing, real estate.

00:37:13.000 President Trump.

00:37:15.000 Let me ask my question to you.

00:37:16.000 Could I just son, didn't have a job for a long time, was sadly no longer in the military service.

00:37:24.000 I won't get into that.

00:37:25.000 And he didn't have a job.

00:37:27.000 As soon as he became vice president, Barisma, not the best reputation in the world, I hear they paid him $183,000 a month.

00:37:37.000 Listen to this.

00:37:38.000 $183,000.

00:37:39.000 And they gave him a $3 million upfront payment.

00:37:42.000 And he had no energy.

00:37:44.000 I'm going to let the vice president respond to that quickly, and then I need to schedule a question to you.

00:37:47.000 Very quickly.

00:37:47.000 No basis for that.

00:37:48.000 Everybody investigated that.

00:37:49.000 No one said anything he did was wrong in Ukraine.

00:37:52.000 Okay, President Trump, this is for you.

00:37:53.000 Since you took off the business, you've been invested from your business.

00:37:56.000 You've personally promoted your properties abroad.

00:37:59.000 A report this week, which was referenced, does indicate that your company has a bank account in China.

00:38:05.000 So how can voters know that you don't have any foreign conflicts of interest?

00:38:08.000 I have many bank accounts, and they're all listed, and they're all over the place.

00:38:12.000 I mean, I was a businessman.

00:38:13.000 You have a build in China.

00:38:14.000 You have a bank account in China.

00:38:15.000 It makes it easy to wire money.

00:38:17.000 Which is, everybody knows about it.

00:38:18.000 It's listed.

00:38:19.000 The bank account was in 2013.

00:38:23.000 That's what it was.

00:38:26.000 It was closed in 2015, I believe.

00:38:29.000 And then I decided, because I was going to do, I was thinking about doing a deal in China like millions of other people.

00:38:35.000 I was thinking about it.

00:38:36.000 And I decided I'm not going to do it.

00:38:38.000 Didn't like it.

00:38:39.000 I decided not to do it.

00:38:40.000 Had an account open, and I closed it.

00:38:42.000 Okay.

00:38:43.000 Excuse me.

00:38:44.000 And then, unlike him, where he's vice president and he does business, I then decided to run for president after that.

00:38:51.000 That was before.

00:38:52.000 So I closed it before I even ran for president, let alone became president.

00:38:58.000 Big difference.

00:38:59.000 He is the vice president of the United States, and his son, his brother, and his other brother are getting rich.

00:39:06.000 They're like a vacuum cleaner. 0.99

00:39:07.000 They're sucking up. 0.99

00:39:08.000 President Trump's shaking. 0.99

00:39:09.000 We do need to move on.

00:39:11.000 Everyone's winning after.

00:39:12.000 That's a sign of a good debate because you go, Biden's winning, Trump's winning, Biden's winning, Trump's winning.

00:39:30.000 What I'd make China do is play by the international rules, not like he has done. 0.66

00:39:34.000 He has caused the deficit of China to go up, not down with China.

00:39:39.000 Up, not down.

00:39:41.000 We are making sure that in order to do business in China, you have to give all your intellectual property.

00:39:46.000 You have to have a partner in China.

00:39:48.000 It's 51%.

00:39:49.000 We would not do that at all, number one.

00:39:52.000 Number two, we're in a situation where China would have to play by the rules internationally as well.

00:39:57.000 When I met with Xi and when I was still vice president, he said, we're setting up air identification zones in the South China Sea.

00:40:05.000 You can't fly through them.

00:40:06.000 I said, we're going to fly through them.

00:40:07.000 We just flew B-52, B-1 bombers through it.

00:40:10.000 We're not going to pay attention.

00:40:11.000 They have to play by the rules.

00:40:14.000 And what's he do?

00:40:15.000 He embraces guys like the thugs in North Korea and the Chinese president and Putin and others.

00:40:23.000 What's his name, the North Korean guy?

00:40:25.000 The guy.

00:40:26.000 The thing.

00:40:27.000 The guy.

00:40:27.000 We make up only...

00:40:30.000 25.

00:40:30.000 What's his name?

00:40:31.000 25.

00:40:31.000 Oh, you want to know it?

00:40:32.000 Kim Jong-hoon.

00:40:33.000 No.

00:40:34.000 We need to be having the rest of our friends with us saying to China, these are the rules. 1.00

00:40:39.000 You play by them or you're going to pay the price for not paying by them economically.

00:40:43.000 That's the way I will run it.

00:40:44.000 And that's what we did in upholding steel tariffs and a range of other things when we were president and vice president.

00:40:49.000 All right, and let's talk about North Korea.

00:40:52.000 No, I have to respond to that.

00:40:53.000 Okay, very quickly.

00:40:54.000 And then we're going to move on to North Korea.

00:40:55.000 We're going to have to $1 billion and a half dollars from China to spending 10 minutes in office and being in Air Force 2.

00:41:01.000 Number one.

00:41:02.000 Number two, there's a very strong email talking about your family wanting to make $10 million a year for introductions.

00:41:11.000 President Trump, on China policy, though, what specifically are you going to do?

00:41:15.000 What specifically are you going to do to make China pay?

00:41:18.000 You've said you're going to pay.

00:41:19.000 China is paying.

00:41:20.000 They're paying billions and billions of dollars.

00:41:22.000 I just gave $28 billion.

00:41:25.000 I just gave $28 billion to our farmers.

00:41:27.000 Taxpayers.

00:41:28.000 China? 0.73

00:41:30.000 What?

00:41:30.000 Taxpayers' money.

00:41:32.000 Do you know who the taxpayer is?

00:41:33.000 It's called China.

00:41:35.000 China paid $28 billion, and you know what they did to come? 0.98

00:41:38.000 They devalued their currency, and they also paid up.

00:41:41.000 And you know who got the money?

00:41:42.000 Our farmers, our great farmers, because they were targeted.

00:41:45.000 You never charged them anything.

00:41:47.000 Also, I charged them 25% on dumped steel because they were killing our steel industry.

00:41:53.000 We were not going to have a steel industry.

00:41:55.000 And now we have a steel industry.

00:41:56.000 Okay, Vice President Biden, your response, please.

00:41:58.000 My response is, look, this isn't about, there's a reason why he's bringing up all this malarkey.

00:42:04.000 There's a reason for it.

00:42:06.000 He doesn't want to talk about the substantive issues.

00:42:08.000 It's not about his family and my family.

00:42:11.000 It's about your family.

00:42:12.000 And your family's hurting badly.

00:42:14.000 If you're making less than, if you're a middle-class family, you're getting hurt badly right now.

00:42:20.000 You're sitting at the kitchen table this morning deciding, well, we can't get new tires, they're ball because we have to wait another month or so.

00:42:26.000 Or are we going to be able to pay the mortgage?

00:42:28.000 Or who's going to tell her she can't go back to community college? 0.91

00:42:32.000 They're the decisions you're making.

00:42:33.000 And the middle-class families like I grew up in Scranton and Claymont.

00:42:36.000 They're in trouble.

00:42:38.000 We should be talking about your families, but that's the last thing he wants to talk about.

00:42:43.000 I want to talk about North Korea.

00:42:45.000 I do want to turn to 10 seconds, Mr. President.

00:42:49.000 Let's get off this China thing. 0.99

00:42:51.000 And then he looks, the family, around the table, everything.

00:42:54.000 Just a typical politician when I see that.

00:42:56.000 Let's talk about North Korea.

00:42:56.000 Not a typical politician.

00:42:58.000 I like the impression that China.

00:43:01.000 Let's talk around sitting around the table.

00:43:03.000 Come on, Joe, you can do better.

00:43:05.000 We're going to talk about North Korea now.

00:43:06.000 President Trump, you've met with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un three times.

00:43:10.000 You've talked about your beautiful letters with him.

00:43:12.000 You've touted the fact that there hasn't been a war or a long-range missile test.

00:43:16.000 And yet North Korea recently rolled out its biggest ever intercontinental ballistic missile and continues to develop its nuclear arsenal.

00:43:23.000 Do you see that as a reference of the relationship you forged?

00:43:27.000 Just 30 seconds here because we need to get on to the next one.

00:43:29.000 So when I met with Barack Obama, we sat in the White House right at the beginning, had a great conversation.

00:43:35.000 It was supposed to be 15 minutes and it was well over an hour.

00:43:38.000 He said the biggest problem we have is North Korea.

00:43:41.000 He indicated we will be in a war with North Korea.

00:43:44.000 Guess what?

00:43:45.000 It would be a nuclear war. 0.52

00:43:46.000 And he does have plenty of nuclear capability.

00:43:49.000 In the meantime, I have a very good relationship with him.

00:43:52.000 Different kind of a guy, but he probably thinks the same thing about me.

00:43:55.000 We have a different kind of a relationship.

00:43:57.000 We have a very good relationship, and there's no war.

00:44:01.000 And you know, about two months ago, he broke into a certain area.

00:44:05.000 They said, oh, there's going to be trouble.

00:44:06.000 I said, no, they're not, because he's not going to do that.

00:44:09.000 And I was right.

00:44:10.000 Look, instead of being in a war where millions of people, Seoul, you know, is 25 miles away, millions and millions, 32 million people in Seoul.

00:44:18.000 Millions of people would be dead right now.

00:44:20.000 President Trump, that's 30 seconds.

00:44:22.000 Vice President Biden, to you.

00:44:28.000 It's pretty heavy.

00:44:31.000 Because I'd make it clear, which we were making clear to China, they had to be part of the deal.

00:44:35.000 Because here's the reason I made it clear, and as a spokesperson in the administration, that they said, why are you moving your missile defense up so close?

00:44:43.000 Why are you moving more forces here?

00:44:45.000 Why are you continuing to do military maneuvers with South Korea?

00:44:51.000 I said, because North Korea is a problem. 0.99

00:44:54.000 And we're going to continue to do it so we can control them.

00:44:57.000 We're going to make sure we can control them and make sure they cannot hurt us.

00:45:01.000 And so if you want to do something about it, step up and help.

00:45:04.000 If not, it's going to continue.

00:45:05.000 What has he done?

00:45:06.000 He's legitimized North Korea. 0.93

00:45:08.000 He's talked about his good buddy who's a thug, a thug, and he talks about how we're better off.

00:45:14.000 And they have much more capable missiles, able to reach U.S. territory much more easily than ever did before.

00:45:20.000 Let me follow up with you, Vice President Biden.

00:45:22.000 You've said you wouldn't meet with Kim Jong-un without preconditions.

00:45:25.000 Are there any conditions under which you would meet with him?

00:45:28.000 On the condition that he would agree that he would be drawing down his nuclear capacity to get that the Korean Peninsula should be a nuclear-free zone. 0.61

00:45:37.000 All right, let's move on to American failures.

00:45:40.000 Very quickly, 10 seconds, President.

00:45:42.000 They tried to meet with him.

00:45:43.000 He wouldn't do it.

00:45:44.000 He didn't like Obama.

00:45:46.000 He didn't like him.

00:45:47.000 He wouldn't do it.

00:45:48.000 Okay, I've got to give him a response to that before.

00:45:51.000 And it's okay.

00:45:52.000 You know what?

00:45:53.000 North Korea, we're not in a war.

00:45:55.000 We have a good relationship.

00:45:56.000 You know, people don't understand.

00:45:57.000 Having a good relationship with leaders of other countries.

00:46:01.000 We have a lot of questions to get to.

00:46:04.000 We had a good relationship with Hitler before he, in fact, invaded Europe, the rest of Europe. 0.94

00:46:10.000 Come on.

00:46:11.000 The reason he would not meet with President Obama is because President Obama said, we're going to talk about denuclearization.

00:46:17.000 We're not going to legitimize you, and we're going to continue to put stronger and stronger sanctions on you.

00:46:22.000 That's why he wouldn't meet with us.

00:46:25.000 And it didn't.

00:46:26.000 Let's move on and talk about American.

00:46:29.000 President Trump?

00:46:29.000 Okay, we did.

00:46:30.000 He left me a mess.

00:46:32.000 North Korea was a mess. 0.67

00:46:34.000 And in fact, if you remember the first two or three months, there was a very dangerous period in my first three months before we sort of worked things out a little bit.

00:46:44.000 They left us a mess.

00:46:46.000 And Obama would be, I think, the first to say it was the single biggest problem he thought that our country.

00:46:52.000 Okay, let's move on to American families and the economy.

00:46:55.000 One of the issues that's most important to them is health care, as you both know.

00:47:00.000 Today there was a key vote on a new Supreme Court justice, Amy Coney Barrett, and health care is at the center of her confirmation fight. 0.99

00:47:06.000 Over 20 million Americans get their health insurance through the Affordable Care Act.

00:47:11.000 It's headed to the Supreme Court, and your administration, Mr. President, is advocating for the court to overturn it.

00:47:17.000 If the Supreme Court does overturn that law, those 20 million Americans could lose their health insurance almost overnight.

00:47:24.000 So what would you do if those people have their health insurance taken away?

00:47:27.000 You have two minutes uninterrupted.

00:47:29.000 First of all, I've already done something that nobody thought was possible.

00:47:32.000 Through the legislature, I terminated the individual mandate.

00:47:37.000 That is the worst part of Obamacare, as we call it.

00:47:41.000 The individual mandate where you have to pay a fortune for the privilege of not having to pay for bad health insurance.

00:47:47.000 I terminated.

00:47:48.000 It's gone.

00:47:49.000 Now it's in court because Obamacare is no good.

00:47:52.000 But then I made a decision.

00:47:53.000 Run it as well as you can to my people, great people.

00:47:57.000 Run it as well as you can.

00:47:58.000 I could have gone the other route and made everybody very unhappy.

00:48:01.000 They ran it.

00:48:03.000 Premiums are down.

00:48:04.000 Everything's down.

00:48:05.000 Here's the problem.

00:48:06.000 No matter how well you run it, it's no good.

00:48:08.000 What we'd like to do is terminate it.

00:48:11.000 We have the individual mandate done.

00:48:13.000 I don't know that it's going to work.

00:48:15.000 If we don't win, we will have to run it and we'll have Obamacare, but it'll be better run.

00:48:20.000 But it no longer is Obamacare because without the individual mandate, it's much different.

00:48:24.000 Preexisting conditions will always stay.

00:48:27.000 What I would like to do is a much better health care, much better, will always protect people with pre-existing.

00:48:34.000 So I'd like to terminate Obamacare, come up with a brand new, beautiful health care.

00:48:39.000 The Democrats will do it because there'll be tremendous pressure on them and we might even have the House by that time.

00:48:44.000 And I think we are going to win the House, okay?

00:48:46.000 And you'll see, but I think we're going to win the House.

00:48:48.000 But come up with a better health care.

00:48:50.000 This is why this election is so important, because we can permanently repair America, and then it won't matter who's president for a long time.

00:49:02.000 Joe Biden is going to terminate all of those policies.

00:49:05.000 These are people that love their health care, people that have been successful, middle-income people, been successful.

00:49:12.000 They have 180 million plans, 180 million people, families.

00:49:18.000 Under what he wants to do, which will basically be socialized medicine, he Won't even have a choice.

00:49:23.000 They want to terminate 180 million plans.

00:49:26.000 We have done an incredible job on health care, and we're going to do even better.

00:49:32.000 Okay, Vice President Biden, yes, this is for you.

00:49:34.000 Your health care plan calls for building on Obamacare.

00:49:37.000 So my question is: what is your plan?

00:49:39.000 If the law is ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, you have two minutes uninterrupted.

00:49:44.000 What I'm going to do is pass Obamacare with a public option.

00:49:48.000 It will become Biden Care.

00:49:50.000 The public option is an option that says that if you, in fact, do not have the wherewithal to be, if you qualify for Medicaid and you do not have the wherewithal in your state to get Medicaid, you automatically are enrolled, providing competition for insurance companies.

00:50:05.000 That's what's going to happen.

00:50:06.000 Secondly, we're going to make sure we reduce the premiums and reduce drug prices.

00:50:12.000 There's competition that doesn't exist now by allowing the Medicare to negotiate drug prices with the insurance companies.

00:50:21.000 Thirdly, the idea that I want to eliminate private insurance, the reason why I had such a fight with 20 candidates for the nomination was I support private insurance.

00:50:34.000 That's why I didn't, not one single person with private insurance would lose their insurance under my plan, nor did they under Obamacare.

00:50:43.000 They did not lose their insurance unless they chose they wanted to go to something else.

00:50:48.000 Lastly, we're going to make sure we're in a situation that we actually protect pre-existing.

00:50:53.000 There's no way he can protect preexisting conditions.

00:50:56.000 None.

00:50:56.000 Zero.

00:50:57.000 This is so boring.

00:50:58.000 Here's the big problem with America and healthcare.

00:51:01.000 We have unlimited fatties and unlimited illegals. 1.00

00:51:06.000 Go outside.

00:51:08.000 Every time you leave New York City and some rich suburb, you realize we have a severe obesity problem. 1.00

00:51:15.000 We are so fucking fat, it's disgusting. 0.99

00:51:19.000 Jesus, when I go to Disneyland or the airport, you see people using wheelchairs or rascals because they can't fucking walk because they overindulge themselves. 1.00

00:51:27.000 We also have 30 million illegals who can just show up in an ER, in front of ER, and say, hey, I have a piece of rebar through my arm. 0.99

00:51:35.000 We have to work on that.

00:51:36.000 We have to spend the money.

00:51:37.000 They don't have the money.

00:51:38.000 They don't have insurance.

00:51:38.000 They're not even legal.

00:51:40.000 But by our laws, it's illegal to let them die.

00:51:43.000 So those two things make us unique.

00:51:44.000 People keep comparing us to Canada and Britain and Scandinavia, but they don't have the fatness and the illegalness that we have.

00:51:53.000 What's the solution? 0.99

00:51:54.000 I don't fucking know. 0.97

00:51:57.000 But the free market's better at everything, so let's leave it with them. 0.99

00:52:01.000 It does good for dogs.

00:52:03.000 There's a public option that people can choose.

00:52:05.000 My dog has better health care than I do.

00:52:07.000 Look, the difference between the present and I think health care is not a privilege, it's a right.

00:52:12.000 Everyone should have the right to have affordable health care.

00:52:15.000 And I am very proud of my plan.

00:52:17.000 It's gotten endorsed by all the major labor unions as well as a whole range of other people who, in fact, are concerned in the medical field.

00:52:26.000 This is something that's going to save people's lives, and this is going to give people an opportunity.

00:52:31.000 So the unions like your socialist plan?

00:52:33.000 Who knew?

00:52:39.000 Because you've lost your health insurance your company's gone under.

00:52:44.000 We have to provide health insurance for people at an affordable rate, and that's what I do.

00:52:48.000 President Trump.

00:52:49.000 He was there for 47 years.

00:52:52.000 He didn't do it.

00:52:53.000 He was now there as vice president for eight years.

00:52:56.000 And it's not like it was 25 years ago.

00:52:58.000 It was three and three quarters.

00:53:00.000 It was just a little while ago, right?

00:53:03.000 Less than four years ago.

00:53:04.000 He didn't do anything.

00:53:05.000 He didn't do it.

00:53:06.000 He wants socialized medicine.

00:53:08.000 And it's not that he wants it.

00:53:09.000 He's vice president.

00:53:11.000 Computer, how old is Joe Biden?

00:53:13.000 More liberal than Bernie Sanders and the English. 0.94

00:53:16.000 Bernie Sanders wants it.

00:53:17.000 That's enough.

00:53:22.000 We're not going to have fracking.

00:53:23.000 We're going to stop fracking.

00:53:24.000 We're going to stop fracking.

00:53:25.000 Then he goes to Pennsylvania after he gets a nomination where he got very lucky to get it.

00:53:29.000 And he goes to Pennsylvania and he says, oh, we're going to have fracking.

00:53:33.000 And you never ask that question.

00:53:35.000 And by the way, so far, I respect very much the way you're handling this.

00:53:38.000 I have to say.

00:53:39.000 But somebody should ask the question.

00:53:41.000 He goes for a year.

00:53:42.000 There will be a lot of people who are going to be able to do that.

00:53:45.000 We have a number of topics for the next year.

00:53:48.000 We're going to get to it.

00:53:49.000 We're going to get to it.

00:53:50.000 It's the same thing with socialized health services.

00:53:52.000 Vice President, your response, please.

00:53:53.000 My response is people deserve to have affordable health care.

00:53:56.000 You just said that.

00:53:57.000 Period, period, period.

00:53:59.000 And the Biden care proposal will, in fact, provide for that affordable health care, lower premiums.

00:54:04.000 What we're going to do is it's going to cost some money.

00:54:06.000 It's going to cost over $750 billion over 10 years to do it.

00:54:10.000 And they're going to have lower premiums.

00:54:11.000 You can buy into the better plans, the cheaper plans, lower your premiums, deal with unexpected billing, and have your drug prices drop significantly.

00:54:21.000 He keeps talking about it.

00:54:22.000 He hasn't done a thing for anybody on health care.

00:54:25.000 Not a thing.

00:54:27.000 Then I want to talk about that.

00:54:27.000 When he says public option, he's talking about socialized medicine and health care.

00:54:33.000 When he talks about a public option, he's talking about destroying your Medicare and destroying your Social Security.

00:54:40.000 And this whole country will come down.

00:54:42.000 You know, Bernie Sanders tried it in his state.

00:54:45.000 He tried it in his state.

00:54:46.000 His governor was a very liberal governor.

00:54:48.000 They want to make it work.

00:54:49.000 Okay.

00:54:50.000 Let's hear Vice President Biden respond.

00:54:52.000 It does work.

00:54:53.000 Vice President Biden responded.

00:54:53.000 He's a very confused guy.

00:54:54.000 He thinks he's running against somebody else.

00:54:56.000 He's running against Joe Biden.

00:54:58.000 I beat all those other people because I disagreed with them.

00:55:02.000 Joe Biden he's running against.

00:55:04.000 And the idea that we're in a situation that they're going to destroy Medicare, this is the guy that the actuary at Medicare said if in fact, at Social Security, if in fact he continues to withhold the tax on Social Security, Society will be bankrupt by 2023 with no way to make up for it.

00:55:26.000 This is the guy who's tried to cut Medicare.

00:55:29.000 So I don't know.

00:55:30.000 I mean, the idea that Donald Trump is lecturing me on Social Security and Medicare?

00:55:35.000 Come on.

00:55:36.000 Come on.

00:55:38.000 He tried to hurt Social Security years ago.

00:55:41.000 Years ago.

00:55:42.000 Go back and look at the records.

00:55:44.000 He tried to hurt Social Security years ago.

00:55:48.000 Mr. President, I have to move on to the next question.

00:55:50.000 He said the stock market is not going to have time to talk about it If I'm elected.

00:55:54.000 If he's elected, the stock market will crash.

00:55:56.000 Okay, let's move on to the next question.

00:56:00.000 Look, the idea that the stock market is booming is his only measure of what's happening.

00:56:05.000 Where I come from in Scranton and Claymont, the people don't live off of the stock market.

00:56:09.000 Just in the market.

00:56:10.000 Yeah, they do.

00:56:10.000 What are you talking about?

00:56:12.000 Three years during this crisis, the billionaires in this country made, according to Wall Street, $700 billion more dollars.

00:56:21.000 Well, Wall Street.

00:56:21.000 $700 billion more dollars because that's his only measure.

00:56:26.000 What happens to the ordinary people out there?

00:56:28.000 What happens to them?

00:56:30.000 Let's talk about the money.

00:56:30.000 401k on Capitol Hill.

00:56:32.000 We're going to move on.

00:56:32.000 401ks are through the roof.

00:56:34.000 She's losing control.

00:56:35.000 Through the roof.

00:56:36.000 And he doesn't come from Scranton.

00:56:38.000 That's like one of the...

00:56:39.000 He lived there for a short period of time before he even knew.

00:56:42.000 We're going to move on to the next question.

00:56:44.000 The people of Pennsylvania.

00:56:45.000 Let me move on to my next question, gentlemen.

00:56:47.000 As of tonight, more than 12 million people are out of work.

00:56:50.000 And as of tonight, 8 million more Americans have fallen into pressure.

00:56:53.000 Because we overdid the COVID thing.

00:56:56.000 Every day.

00:56:56.000 Those hit hardest are women and people of color.

00:56:59.000 They see Washington fighting over a relief bill.

00:57:02.000 Mr. President, why haven't you been able to get them the help they need?

00:57:05.000 30 seconds here.

00:57:06.000 Because Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to approve it. 0.91

00:57:09.000 I do.

00:57:09.000 But you're the president.

00:57:10.000 I do, but I still have to get.

00:57:12.000 Unfortunately, that's one of the reasons I think we're going to take over the House because of her. 1.00

00:57:16.000 Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to approve anything because she'd love to have some victories on a date called November 3rd. 1.00

00:57:23.000 Nancy Pelosi does not want to approve it.

00:57:25.000 We are ready, willing, and able to do something.

00:57:27.000 Don't forget, we've already approved three plans, and it's gone through, including the Democrats, in all fairness.

00:57:33.000 This one she doesn't want.

00:57:34.000 It's near the election because she thinks it helps her politically.

00:57:38.000 I think it hurts her politically.

00:57:39.000 All right, Mr. Vice President McCarthy.

00:57:41.000 It does hurt her politically, but in the United States Senate, it also hurts you.

00:57:45.000 He will not be able to pass it.

00:57:47.000 He does not have Republican votes.

00:57:49.000 Why isn't he talking to his Republican friends?

00:57:51.000 Let me follow up with you, Vice President.

00:57:52.000 We made it.

00:57:54.000 Let me ask Vice President Biden a question.

00:57:56.000 You are the leader of the Democratic Party.

00:57:58.000 Why have you not pushed the Democrats to get a deal for the American people?

00:58:02.000 Oh, I have, and they have pushed it.

00:58:03.000 Look, they passed this act all the way back in the beginning of the summer.

00:58:07.000 This is like it's not new.

00:58:09.000 It's been out there.

00:58:10.000 This HEROES Act has been sitting there.

00:58:13.000 And look, it was happening.

00:58:14.000 When I was in charge of the Recovery Act with $800 billion, I was able to get $145 billion to local communities that have to balance their budgets and states that have to balance their budgets and then have to fire firefighters, teachers,

00:58:30.000 first responders, law enforcement officers, so they could keep their cities and counties running.

00:58:35.000 He will not support that.

00:58:37.000 They have not done a thing for them.

00:58:39.000 And Ms. McConnell said, let them go bankrupt. 1.00

00:58:42.000 Let them go bankrupt.

00:58:43.000 Come on.

00:58:44.000 What's the matter with you?

00:58:45.000 The bill that was passed in the House was a bailout of badly run, high crime, Democrat, all run by Democrats, cities and states. 0.75

00:58:55.000 It was a way of getting a lot of money, billions and billions of dollars to these states.

00:58:59.000 It was also a way of getting a lot of money from our people's pockets to people that come into our country illegally. 0.94

00:59:07.000 We were going to take care of everything for them.

00:59:09.000 And what that does, and I'd love to do that, I'd love to help them, but what that does, everybody all over the world will start pouring into our country.

00:59:16.000 We can't do it.

00:59:16.000 This was a way of taking care of them.

00:59:19.000 This was a way of spending on things that had nothing to do with COVID, as per your question.

00:59:23.000 But it was really a big bailout for badly run Democrat cities and states.

00:59:29.000 If I get elected, I'm not going to, I'm running as a proud Democrat, but I'm going to be an American probably.

00:59:33.000 I don't see red states and blue states.

00:59:36.000 What I see is America and the United States.

00:59:38.000 And folks, every single state out there finds themselves in trouble.

00:59:42.000 They're going to start laying off, whether they're red or blue, cops, firefighters, first responders, teachers, because they have to balance their budget.

00:59:51.000 And the founders were smart.

00:59:53.000 They allowed the federal government a deficit spend to compensate for the United States of America.

00:59:59.000 I want to talk about the minimum wage, gentlemen.

01:00:00.000 Mr. Vice President, we are talking a lot about struggling small businesses and business owners these days.

01:00:07.000 Do you think this is the right time to ask them to raise the minimum wage?

01:00:10.000 You, of course, support a $15 federal minimum wage.

01:00:12.000 I do, because I think one of the things we're going to have to do is we're going to have to bail them out, too.

01:00:17.000 We should be bailing them out. 1.00

01:00:19.000 He's talking a lot about spending money.

01:00:21.000 We've got one in six of them going up and taxing us.

01:00:25.000 They passed a package that allows us to be able to call PPP.

01:00:30.000 Money is supposed to go to help them do everything from organize how they can deal with their businesses being opened safely.

01:00:37.000 Schools, how they can make classrooms smaller, how they can hire more teachers, how they can put ventilation systems in.

01:00:43.000 They need the help.

01:00:45.000 The businesses as well as the schools need the help.

01:00:49.000 But these guys will not help them.

01:00:51.000 It's not giving them any of the money.

01:00:53.000 We are going to move on to the next step.

01:00:54.000 There we go.

01:00:55.000 That is the crux between right and left.

01:00:58.000 They need the help.

01:01:01.000 I think it should be a state option.

01:01:03.000 Alabama is different than New York.

01:01:05.000 New York is different from Vermont.

01:01:08.000 Every state is different.

01:01:09.000 It should be a state option.

01:01:10.000 You said very important.

01:01:11.000 It's very important.

01:01:12.000 We have to help our small businesses.

01:01:14.000 How are you helping your small businesses when you're forcing wages?

01:01:17.000 What's going to happen, and what's been proven to happen, is when you do that, these small businesses fire many of their employees.

01:01:24.000 You said how recently you would consider raising the federal minimum wage to 15%.

01:01:27.000 What are McDonald's in Manhattan?

01:01:29.000 Half the time you're just pushing buttons.

01:01:32.000 That's still the case.

01:01:33.000 And I would consider it to an extent.

01:01:35.000 But I really love in a second administration, but not to a level that's going to put all these businesses out of business.

01:01:42.000 It should be a state option.

01:01:43.000 Look, in different places, I know different places.

01:01:46.000 They're all different.

01:01:48.000 Some places, $15 is not so bad.

01:01:51.000 In other places, other states.

01:01:53.000 $15 is not a bad thing.

01:01:54.000 Okay, President Trump, thank you.

01:01:55.000 Quick response, Vice President Biden.

01:01:57.000 Two jobs.

01:01:58.000 One job be below poverty.

01:02:01.000 People are making six, seven, eight bucks an hour.

01:02:03.000 These first responders, we all clap for as they come down the street because they've allowed us to make it.

01:02:09.000 What's happening?

01:02:10.000 They deserve a minimum wage of $15.

01:02:14.000 Anything below that puts you below the poverty level.

01:02:17.000 And there is no evidence that when you raise the minimum wage, businesses go out of business.

01:02:22.000 There's Plenty of evidence of that.

01:02:23.000 We're going to talk about immigration.

01:02:25.000 We're going to talk about immigration now, gentlemen, and we're going to talk about families within this context.

01:02:30.000 Mr. President, your administration separated children from their parents at the border, at least 4,000 kids.

01:02:36.000 You've since reversed your zero tolerance policy, but the United States can't locate the parents of more than 500 children.

01:02:43.000 So how many families ever brought?

01:02:44.000 They're not their children.

01:02:46.000 Children are brought here by coyotes and lots of bad people, cartels, and they're brought here, and they used to use them to get into our country. 1.00

01:02:56.000 We now have as strong a border as we've ever had.

01:02:59.000 We're over 400 miles of brand new wall.

01:03:02.000 You see the numbers, and we let people in, but they have to come in legally, and they come in through my family.

01:03:06.000 But how will you reunite the kids?

01:03:09.000 Let me just tell you.

01:03:10.000 They built cages.

01:03:10.000 You know, they used to say, I built the cages.

01:03:13.000 And then they had a picture in a certain newspaper.

01:03:16.000 And it was a picture of these horrible cages.

01:03:18.000 And they said, look at these cages. 0.90

01:03:20.000 President Trump built them.

01:03:22.000 And then it was determined they were built in 2014.

01:03:25.000 That was him.

01:03:26.000 Do you have a plan to reunite the kids?

01:03:28.000 Yes, we're working on it very.

01:03:29.000 We're trying to get them. 1.00

01:03:30.000 The kids are garbage in Mexico. 1.00

01:03:32.000 Without the parents, they couldn't. 1.00

01:03:33.000 The cartels use them as like dogs, basically.

01:03:36.000 They use them as spies, as lookouts. 1.00

01:03:38.000 Joe Biggs, when he was down there, said, if you see a kid skateboarding near your motel, you're fucked. 1.00

01:03:45.000 Wow. 1.00

01:03:45.000 Because he was sent there to watch you. 1.00

01:03:47.000 To make it a disincentive to come to begin with.

01:03:51.000 Bae, real tough.

01:03:52.000 We're really strong.

01:03:53.000 And guess what?

01:03:54.000 They cannot, it's not coyotes didn't bring them over.

01:03:57.000 Their parents were with them.

01:03:59.000 No, they weren't their parents.

01:04:01.000 And it makes us a laughing stock and violates every notion of who we are as a nation.

01:04:06.000 Having a border?

01:04:07.000 Let me ask you a final question.

01:04:08.000 Kristen, they did it.

01:04:09.000 We changed the policy.

01:04:11.000 Your response to that?

01:04:12.000 We changed it.

01:04:13.000 We did not.

01:04:13.000 They built the cages.

01:04:15.000 Who built the cages, Joe?

01:04:16.000 Let's talk about what they did.

01:04:18.000 Let's talk about what we're talking about.

01:04:20.000 What happened?

01:04:21.000 Parents were ripped.

01:04:22.000 Their kids were ripped from separated.

01:04:26.000 And now they cannot find over 500 sets of those parents, and those kids are alone.

01:04:32.000 Nowhere to go.

01:04:34.000 Yeah.

01:04:34.000 Nowhere to go.

01:04:34.000 Thanks.

01:04:35.000 Way to go, Mexico. 1.00

01:04:37.000 Sending orphans up.

01:04:38.000 Person, I will say this.

01:04:39.000 They went down.

01:04:40.000 We brought reporters, everything.

01:04:42.000 They are so well taken care of.

01:04:45.000 They're in facilities that were so clean.

01:04:47.000 But some of them haven't been reunited.

01:04:48.000 But just ask one question. 1.00

01:04:50.000 Because they're orphans, you stupid bitch. 1.00

01:04:52.000 I'd love you to ask of that. 1.00

01:04:53.000 Who built the cages?

01:04:54.000 Let me ask about your immigration policy, Mr. Vice President.

01:04:56.000 The Obama administration was able to deliver immigration reform, which had been a key promise during the administration.

01:05:02.000 It also presided over record deportations as well as family detentions at the border before changing course.

01:05:08.000 So why should voters trust you with an immigration overhaul now?

01:05:12.000 Because it made a mistake.

01:05:13.000 It took too long to get it right.

01:05:15.000 It took too long to get it right.

01:05:17.000 Correct.

01:05:17.000 I'll be President of the United States, not Vice President of the United States.

01:05:21.000 And the fact is, I've been... 0.99

01:05:22.000 So Obama fucked up? 0.96

01:05:23.000 Within 100 days, I'm going to send to the United States Congress a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people. 0.98

01:05:31.000 And all of those so-called dreamers, those DACA kids, they're going to be immediately certified again to be able to stay in this country. 0.98

01:05:40.000 I don't think most Americans like that because they recognize it means more immigrants.

01:05:51.000 Your parents are taking you across the Rio Grande River.

01:05:55.000 You smell magnificent.

01:05:56.000 And it's illegal.

01:05:57.000 And you say, oh, no, mom, leave me here.

01:05:59.000 I'm not going to go with you.

01:06:00.000 They've been here.

01:06:01.000 Many of them are modeled.

01:06:02.000 Over 20,000 of them are first responders out there taking care of people during this crisis.

01:06:08.000 We owe them.

01:06:10.000 We owe them.

01:06:12.000 President Still had eight years to do what he said he was going to do.

01:06:17.000 And I've changed without having a specific.

01:06:20.000 We got rid of catch and release.

01:06:22.000 We got rid of a lot of horrible things that they put in and that they lived with.

01:06:27.000 But he had eight years he was vice president.

01:06:30.000 He did nothing except build cages to keep people.

01:06:34.000 Did you ever ride your bike outside in the snow?

01:06:37.000 Merely.

01:06:38.000 What?

01:06:39.000 I used to be a bike messenger in Montreal in the winter. 0.99

01:06:42.000 And when I would come back and I would go piss or something, Biden is what my dick looked like. 0.99

01:06:49.000 And guess what? 1.00

01:06:49.000 They showed up. 1.00

01:06:50.000 He looks like a cold dick. 0.99

01:06:52.000 This is the first president in the history of the United States of America that anybody seeking asylum has to do it in another country. 0.99

01:06:59.000 That's never happened before in America.

01:07:01.000 That's never happened before in America.

01:07:03.000 You come to the United States and you make your case that I seek asylum based on the following premise, why I deserve it under American law. 0.87

01:07:12.000 Yeah, let's be like Europe.

01:07:15.000 Let's take in a bunch of Syrian refugees.

01:07:17.000 It's gone great for them. 0.98

01:07:20.000 Let's take in some beheaders from Islam. 1.00

01:07:22.000 Catch and release is a disaster. 1.00

01:07:25.000 A murderer would come in. 0.68

01:07:27.000 A rapist would come in. 1.00

01:07:28.000 A very bad person would come in. 0.97

01:07:31.000 We would take their name.

01:07:33.000 We have to release them into our country. 1.00

01:07:36.000 And then you say they come back.

01:07:38.000 Less than 1% of the people come back.

01:07:41.000 We have to send ICE out and Border Patrol out to find them.

01:07:45.000 We would say we have two years, three years.

01:07:48.000 We're going to give you a court case.

01:07:49.000 You need Perry Mason.

01:07:51.000 We're going to give you a court case.

01:07:52.000 When you say they come back, they don't come back, Joe.

01:07:55.000 They never come back.

01:07:57.000 Only the really, I hate to say this, but those with the lowest IQ, they might come back.

01:08:04.000 Okay, President Trump, let's give Vice President Biden a chance to respond, and then we're going to move on to the next one.

01:08:09.000 Vice President Biden, your response.

01:08:11.000 Know the law.

01:08:12.000 What he's telling you is simply not true.

01:08:13.000 Well, check it out.

01:08:14.000 They don't come back.

01:08:15.000 Check it out.

01:08:16.000 All right, let's move on.

01:08:17.000 But we don't have to worry about it because they terminated it, so we don't have to worry about it.

01:08:20.000 Let's move on to the next one.

01:08:21.000 You've got 525 kids not knowing where, in God's name, they're going to be in the next one.

01:08:24.000 Because they're orphans.

01:08:25.000 All right.

01:08:26.000 Let's talk about that.

01:08:27.000 They don't have any parents.

01:08:28.000 Which is race in America.

01:08:30.000 Parents they give the decision.

01:08:33.000 Excruciating.

01:08:41.000 Can I be up there?

01:08:42.000 Parents who feel they have no choice but to prepare their children for the chance that they could be targeted, including by the police, for no reason other than the color of Their skin.

01:08:53.000 Mr. Vice President, in the next two minutes, I want you to speak directly to these families.

01:08:58.000 Do you understand why these parents fear for their children?

01:09:02.000 I do.

01:09:03.000 I do.

01:09:03.000 They're wrong.

01:09:04.000 My daughter is a social worker, and she's written a lot about this.

01:09:09.000 She has her graduate degree from the University of Pennsylvania.

01:09:12.000 This is why I could never be a politician, because I would just get up there and say, the talk is child abuse.

01:09:17.000 You're telling your kid they live in a Klan rally.

01:09:21.000 You're making them petrified of everything around them.

01:09:24.000 The talk is abusive. 0.98

01:09:26.000 Tell your children that you live in a world where blacks have no place are they more free. 0.99

01:09:33.000 No place are gays more free. 0.99

01:09:35.000 You're safe. 1.00

01:09:36.000 Cops killed 10 unarmed black people last year.

01:09:38.000 Two of them were not attacking the cops.

01:09:40.000 Two out of 331 million is a pretty good number.

01:09:44.000 Don't have a hoodie on when you go across the street.

01:09:46.000 Making sure that you, in fact, if you get pulled over, yes, sir, no, sir, hands on top of the wheel, because you are, in fact, the victim, whether you're a person making a child of a $300,000 a year person or someone who's on food stamps.

01:10:04.000 The fact of the matter is, there is institutional racism in America.

01:10:08.000 And we have always said that's going to get him a lot of women votes. 1.00

01:10:13.000 All men and women are created equal.

01:10:14.000 But guess what?

01:10:16.000 We have never, ever lived up to, but we've all constantly been moving the needle further and further to inclusion, not exclusion.

01:10:24.000 This is the first president to come along and says that's the end of that.

01:10:27.000 We're not going to do that anymore.

01:10:29.000 We have to provide for economic opportunity, better education, better health care, better access to the process.

01:10:34.000 That's the end of that.

01:10:35.000 I don't want any more inclusion.

01:10:36.000 We have to have access to opportunity to borrow money to start businesses.

01:10:40.000 All the things we can do, and I've laid out a clear plan as to how to do those things, just to give people a shot.

01:10:47.000 It's about accumulating the ability to have wealth as well as it is to be free from violence.

01:10:54.000 President Trump, same question to you, and let me remind you of the question.

01:10:57.000 I would like you to speak directly to these families.

01:11:00.000 Do you understand why these parents fear for their children?

01:11:03.000 Yes, I do.

01:11:04.000 And again, he's been in government 47 years.

01:11:07.000 He never did a thing except in 1994 when he did such harm to the black community. 0.93

01:11:14.000 And they were called, and he called them, super predators. 0.93

01:11:18.000 And he said that.

01:11:19.000 He said it, super predators.

01:11:21.000 And they have never lived that down.

01:11:23.000 1994.

01:11:24.000 Joe, just say not true.

01:11:26.000 Every time you hear something you don't like.

01:11:27.000 Nobody has done more for the black community.

01:11:30.000 Oh my God, I said a great idea for a t-shirt. 0.97

01:11:32.000 I'll shut up for a sec.

01:11:33.000 With the exception of Abraham Lincoln, possible exception, but the exception of Abraham Lincoln, nobody has done what I've done.

01:11:41.000 Criminal justice reform, Obama and Joe didn't do it.

01:11:47.000 I don't even think they tried because they had no chance at doing it.

01:11:50.000 They might have wanted to do it, but if you had to see the arms, I had to twist to get that done.

01:11:55.000 It was not a pretty picture, and everybody knows it, including some very liberal people that cried in my office.

01:12:01.000 They cried in the Oval Office.

01:12:03.000 Two weeks later, they're out saying, gee, we have to defeat him.

01:12:06.000 Criminal justice reform, prison reform, opportunity zones with Tim Scott, a great senator from South Carolina.

01:12:14.000 He came in with this anti-people don't talk about it.

01:12:21.000 Tremendous investment is being made.

01:12:23.000 Biggest beneficiary, the black and Hispanic communities, and then historically black colleges and universities.

01:12:31.000 After three years of coming to the office, I love some of those guys.

01:12:34.000 They were great.

01:12:35.000 They came into the office and they said, I said, what are you doing?

01:12:38.000 After three years, I said, why do you keep coming back?

01:12:41.000 Because we have no funding.

01:12:42.000 I said, you don't have to come back every year.

01:12:44.000 We have to come back.

01:12:45.000 Because President Obama would never give them long-term funding.

01:12:49.000 And I did.

01:12:50.000 10-year long-term funding.

01:12:52.000 And I gave them more money than they asked for because I said, I think you need more.

01:12:56.000 And I said, the only bad part about this is I may never see you again because I got very friendly with them.

01:13:02.000 And they like me and I like them.

01:13:03.000 But I saved historically black colleges and universities.

01:13:07.000 Okay, and we're going to talk about both of your records, but your response to that, Vice President.

01:13:11.000 My response to that is I never ever said what he accused me of saying.

01:13:17.000 The fact of the matter is in 2000, though, after the crime bill had been in the law for a while, this is a guy who said, the problem with the crime bill, there's not enough people in jail.

01:13:28.000 There's not enough people in jail.

01:13:30.000 And go on my website, get the quote, the date, when he said it.

01:13:33.000 Not enough people.

01:13:34.000 He talked about marauding gangs, young gangs, and the people who were going to maraud our cities.

01:13:40.000 This is a guy who in the Central Park five, five innocent black kids, he continued to push for making sure that they got the death penalty.

01:13:47.000 None of them were guilty of what the crime was. 1.00

01:13:51.000 They were all guilty, you fucking cuck. 0.99

01:13:53.000 Look, and talk about he, granted, he did in fact let 20 people, he commuted 20 people sentences. 1.00

01:14:00.000 We commuted over a thousand people's sentences.

01:14:02.000 Over a thousand.

01:14:03.000 The very law he's talking about is a law that in fact initiated.

01:14:08.000 So Hillary, he didn't say super predators.

01:14:10.000 He said there's predators on our streets, and then Hillary called them super predators. 0.57

01:14:14.000 He said the jungle thing, right?

01:14:16.000 He said, I don't want my kids in a racial jungle.

01:14:18.000 And one of these things we should be doing, there should be no, no minimum mandatories in the law.

01:14:24.000 That's why I'm offering $20 billion to states to change their state laws to eliminate minimum mandatories and set up drug courts.

01:14:32.000 No one should be going to jail because they have a drug problem.

01:14:35.000 They should be going to rehabilitation, not greedy.

01:14:38.000 I agree with you, Joe.

01:14:39.000 That's a point for Joe.

01:14:42.000 But why didn't he do it four years ago?

01:14:44.000 Yes, four years ago, even less than that.

01:14:47.000 Why didn't he do it?

01:14:48.000 And you were vice president.

01:14:49.000 You keep talking about all these things you're going to do, and you're going to do this.

01:14:53.000 But you were there just a short time ago, and you guys did nothing.

01:14:57.000 We did.

01:14:57.000 You know, Joe, I ran because of you.

01:15:00.000 I ran because of Barack Obama, because you did a poor job.

01:15:03.000 If I thought you did a good job, I would have never run.

01:15:06.000 I would have never run.

01:15:07.000 I ran because of you.

01:15:08.000 I'm looking at you now.

01:15:09.000 You're a politician.

01:15:11.000 I ran because of you.

01:15:12.000 All right, Vice President Biden, your response to that.

01:15:14.000 And then I do have some questions for both of you.

01:15:16.000 Well, I tell you what.

01:15:17.000 I hope he does look at me because what's happening here is you know who I am.

01:15:22.000 You know who he is.

01:15:24.000 You know his character.

01:15:25.000 You know my character.

01:15:26.000 You know our reputations for honor and telling the truth.

01:15:30.000 I am anxious to have this race.

01:15:32.000 I am anxious to see this take place.

01:15:34.000 I am anxiety.

01:15:37.000 I'm anxious too.

01:15:38.000 Our character is on the ballot.

01:15:39.000 Look at us closely.

01:15:40.000 Let me ask some followers to please respond and then we're going to have to talk about it.

01:15:43.000 If this is true about Russia, Ukraine, China, other countries, Iraq, if this is true, then he's a corrupt politician.

01:15:51.000 So don't give me the stuff about how you're this innocent baby. 0.86

01:15:54.000 Joe, they're calling you a corrupt politician.

01:15:57.000 Nobody is.

01:15:58.000 President Trump, I want to stay on the issue of race.

01:16:00.000 We're talking about the laptop from hell.

01:16:02.000 President Trump is a little bit of a vision.

01:16:03.000 130 million.

01:16:04.000 130 million people vote.

01:16:06.000 You mentioned the laptop from hell.

01:16:07.000 President Trump.

01:16:08.000 I'm going to have to respond to that, please.

01:16:09.000 Because look, there are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what this he's accusing me of is a race.

01:16:17.000 I don't think the laptop took.

01:16:18.000 Oh, really?

01:16:19.000 Mention it again. 1.00

01:16:21.000 Five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he's saying is a bunch of garbage. 0.99

01:16:28.000 Nobody believes it except his and his good friend Runa Gianni. 0.92

01:16:32.000 You mean the laptop is now another Russia-Russia-Russia hoax?

01:16:36.000 And that's exactly what he's doing.

01:16:39.000 This is where he's going.

01:16:40.000 The laptop is fake.

01:16:42.000 Are the pictures photoshopped?

01:16:44.000 You have to be kidding.

01:16:46.000 Here we go again, the Russia. 0.96

01:16:47.000 We're going to continue on the issue of race.

01:16:49.000 Mr. President, you've described it.

01:16:51.000 So now the laptop is in.

01:16:53.000 It's officially in.

01:16:54.000 It's in place.

01:16:54.000 You've shared a video of a man chanting white power to millions of your supporters.

01:16:58.000 You've said that black professional athletes exercising their First Amendment rights should be fired.

01:17:04.000 What do you say to Americans who say that kind of language from a president is continuing to do that? 0.65

01:17:08.000 White power? 0.99

01:17:08.000 What? 0.99

01:17:08.000 He said the first time in Polish Lives Matter. 0.99

01:17:14.000 They were chanting pigs in a blanket, talking about police. 1.00

01:17:18.000 Pigs, pigs, talking about our police. 1.00

01:17:20.000 Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon. 1.00

01:17:23.000 I said, that's a horrible thing. 0.96

01:17:24.000 And they were marching down the street.

01:17:26.000 And that was my first time.

01:17:28.000 The white power thing was, I think he retweeted something he thought was funny. 1.00

01:17:31.000 And if you check that guy's account, you see white power shit. 0.99

01:17:34.000 I have relationships with all people. 0.99

01:17:36.000 I think I have great relationships with all people.

01:17:39.000 I am the least racist person in this room.

01:17:43.000 What do you say to Americans who are concerned by that rhetoric?

01:17:46.000 I mean, I don't know what to say.

01:17:47.000 I got criminal justice reform done and prison reform and opportunity zones.

01:17:52.000 I took care of black colleges and universities.

01:17:55.000 I don't know.

01:17:55.000 Mention Ice Cube and 50 Cent and Kanye.

01:17:58.000 I mean, they can say anything.

01:18:00.000 It's a very, it makes me sad because I am the least racist person.

01:18:06.000 I can't even see the audience because it's so dark.

01:18:09.000 But I don't care who's in the audience.

01:18:10.000 I'm the least racist person. 0.83

01:18:11.000 You can't see black people because it's too dark. 1.00

01:18:13.000 I see teeth. 0.99

01:18:15.000 I see eyeballs and teeth.

01:18:16.000 If any of them could go like that, I might be able to see. 0.89

01:18:19.000 One of the most racist presidents we've had in modern history. 0.73

01:18:22.000 He pours fuel on every single racist fire. 0.97

01:18:27.000 Every single one. 1.00

01:18:28.000 Started off his campaign coming down the escalator saying he's going to get rid of those Mexican rapists. 1.00

01:18:34.000 He didn't say that Muslims were Muslims. 1.00

01:18:36.000 He has moved around and made everything worse across the board. 0.90

01:18:41.000 He says about the poor boys.

01:18:43.000 Last time we were on stage here, he said, I told him to stand down and stand ready.

01:18:48.000 Come on.

01:18:49.000 This guy is a dog with me.

01:18:50.000 Stand back and stand by.

01:18:51.000 It's the proud boys.

01:18:52.000 President Trump, I'm going to give you 10 seconds.

01:18:55.000 You made a reference to Abraham Lincoln.

01:18:57.000 Where did that come in?

01:18:58.000 I mean, where did that?

01:19:01.000 No, no.

01:19:02.000 I said, not since Abraham Lincoln has anybody done what I've done for the black community.

01:19:09.000 The poor boys.

01:19:10.000 I said, not since Abraham Lincoln has anybody done what I've done for the black community. 0.85

01:19:15.000 Poor boys.

01:19:16.000 Now, you have done nothing other than the crime bill.

01:19:19.000 It's kind of true.

01:19:20.000 He's empathizing for us.

01:19:21.000 I mean, you think of it.

01:19:22.000 Tens of thousands of people.

01:19:22.000 I thought of rich, proud boys.

01:19:24.000 Men, mostly in jail.

01:19:28.000 Let me ask Vice President Biden.

01:19:32.000 Let me ask you treated them very, very badly.

01:19:35.000 Just take a look at what's happening out there.

01:19:37.000 Vice President Biden, let me give you a chance to respond within this context.

01:19:40.000 Crime bills that you supported in the 80s and 90s contributed to the incarceration of tens of thousands of young black men who had small amounts of drugs in their possession.

01:19:49.000 They are sons, they are brothers, they're fathers, they're uncles, whose families are still in the middle of the country.

01:19:54.000 Very weak point for him.

01:19:56.000 It's an Achilles' heel.

01:19:59.000 One of the things is that in the 80s, we passed 100%, all 100 senators voted for it, a bill on drugs and how to deal with drugs.

01:20:09.000 It was a mistake.

01:20:11.000 I've been trying to change this since then, particularly the portion on COVID.

01:20:15.000 That's why I've been arguing that, in fact, we should not send anyone to jail for a pure drug offense.

01:20:22.000 They should be going into treatment across the board.

01:20:26.000 That's what we should be spending money on.

01:20:28.000 That's why I set up drug courts, which were never funded by our Republican friends.

01:20:32.000 They should not be going to jail for a drug or an alcohol problem.

01:20:37.000 They should be going into treatment.

01:20:39.000 Treatment.

01:20:40.000 That's what we've been trying to do.

01:20:41.000 But you didn't do that.

01:20:43.000 It's a nice notion.

01:20:44.000 It's my politics.

01:20:46.000 But it's not yours.

01:20:47.000 It was a mistake to pass those laws relating to drug.

01:20:51.000 But they were not in the crime bill.

01:20:52.000 But why didn't he get it done?

01:20:54.000 See, it's all talk, no action with these politicians.

01:20:57.000 Why didn't he get it done?

01:20:58.000 That's what I'm going to do with scores.

01:21:01.000 You were vice president, along with Obama as your president, your leader, for eight years.

01:21:06.000 Why didn't you get it done?

01:21:08.000 You had eight years to get it done.

01:21:09.000 Now you're saying you're going to get it done because you're all talking no action, Jim.

01:21:13.000 We got a lot of it done.

01:21:14.000 We released 38 prisoners.

01:21:16.000 We got 38,000 prisoners left in the federal government.

01:21:18.000 You got nothing done.

01:21:19.000 38,000 prisoners were released from federal prison.

01:21:23.000 There were over 1,000 people who were given clemency.

01:21:27.000 In fact, we're the ones that put in the legislation saying we could look at pattern and practice of police departments and what they were doing, how they were conducting themselves.

01:21:35.000 I could go on, but we began the process.

01:21:38.000 We began the process.

01:21:40.000 We lost an election.

01:21:41.000 That's why I'm running to win back that election and change his terrible policy.

01:21:46.000 He lost an election.

01:21:47.000 Oh, he means the devil.

01:21:48.000 Why didn't you do it in the eight years a short time ago?

01:21:52.000 Why didn't you do it?

01:21:54.000 You just said, I'm going to do that.

01:21:55.000 I'm going to do this. 0.92

01:21:56.000 You put tens of thousands of mostly black young men in prison.

01:22:01.000 Now you're saying you're going to undo that.

01:22:04.000 Why didn't you get it done?

01:22:05.000 You had eight years with Obama.

01:22:07.000 You know why, Joe?

01:22:08.000 Because you're all talk and no action.

01:22:10.000 All right, Vice President Biden, then we're going to move on to the next section.

01:22:13.000 We had a Republican Congress.

01:22:18.000 That's the answer.

01:22:19.000 Awkward.

01:22:20.000 You've got to talk him into it, Joe.

01:22:22.000 All right.

01:22:22.000 You've got to talk him into it.

01:22:23.000 We're going to move on to our next section.

01:22:25.000 Like I did with criminal justice reform.

01:22:27.000 I had to talk Democrats into it.

01:22:29.000 Gentlemen, we're running out of time, so we've got to get on to climate change.

01:22:33.000 That's the longest pause I've ever heard.

01:22:35.000 Ever.

01:22:36.000 In my life.

01:22:37.000 Nothing's been that silent for that much about.

01:22:39.000 Nothing in my life, ever.

01:22:41.000 Not the train, no movies.

01:22:45.000 Not walking down the street.

01:22:47.000 New jobs.

01:22:48.000 Not making spaghetti.

01:22:57.000 So we have the Trillion Trees program.

01:23:00.000 We have so many different programs.

01:23:02.000 I love the environment.

01:23:03.000 But what I want is the cleanest, crystal clear water, the cleanest air.

01:23:08.000 We have the best, lowest number in carbon emissions, which is a big standard that I notice Obama goes with all the time.

01:23:15.000 Not Joe.

01:23:16.000 I haven't heard Joe use the term because I'm not sure he knows what it represents or means, but I have heard Obama use it.

01:23:22.000 And we have the best carbon emission numbers in 30 years.

01:23:27.000 You worried about pollution?

01:23:28.000 Look at China. 0.88

01:23:29.000 India.

01:23:30.000 We are working so well with industry, but here's what we can't do.

01:23:34.000 Look at China. 0.88

01:23:35.000 How can we do it?

01:23:35.000 India doesn't pollute the world.

01:23:37.000 China pollutes the world. 1.00

01:23:38.000 India just literally shits on itself. 0.99

01:23:40.000 They're creating like four coal refineries a week or something. 0.99

01:23:44.000 The Paris Accord took us out.

01:23:45.000 India.

01:23:46.000 We were going to be on Rogan there.

01:23:49.000 And we were treated very unfairly.

01:23:51.000 When they put us in there, they did us a great disservice.

01:23:53.000 They were going to take away our businesses.

01:23:55.000 I will not sacrifice tens of millions of jobs, thousands and thousands of companies, because of the Paris Accord.

01:24:04.000 It was so unfair.

01:24:06.000 China doesn't kick in until 2030.

01:24:09.000 Russia goes back to a low standard.

01:24:11.000 And we kicked in right away, it would have destroyed our businesses.

01:24:17.000 So, you ready?

01:24:18.000 We have done an incredible job environmentally.

01:24:22.000 We have the cleanest air, the cleanest water, and the best carbon emission standards that we've seen in many, many years.

01:24:28.000 Vice President Biden.

01:24:29.000 And we haven't destroyed our industries.

01:24:32.000 Vice President Biden, two minutes to you, uninterrupted.

01:24:35.000 Climate change and climate warming.

01:24:38.000 Global warming is the next essential threat to humanity.

01:24:41.000 We have a moral obligation to deal with it.

01:24:45.000 And we're told by all the leading scientists in the world we don't have much time.

01:24:50.000 That's not true.

01:24:50.000 We're going to pass the point of no return within the next eight to ten years.

01:24:54.000 We're told by a lot of scientists you want to make money.

01:25:02.000 To limit emissions, will put us in a position where we're going to be in real trouble.

01:25:09.000 Here's where we have a great opportunity.

01:25:11.000 I was able to get both all the environmental organizations as well as labor, the people worried about jobs, to support my climate plan.

01:25:20.000 Because what it does, it will create millions of new, good-paying jobs.

01:25:24.000 We're going to invest in, for example, 50,000 charging stations on our highways so that we can own the electric car market of the future.

01:25:36.000 In the meantime, China is doing that.

01:25:38.000 We're going to be in a position where we're going to see to it that we're going to take 4 million existing billion buildings and 2 million existing homes and rent leak as much energy, saving barrels of oil in the process and creating significant number of jobs.

01:25:56.000 And by the way, the whole idea of what this is all going to do, it's going to create millions of jobs and it's going to clean the environment.

01:26:04.000 Our health and our jobs are at stake.

01:26:07.000 That's what's happening.

01:26:09.000 And right now, by the way, Wall Street firms indicated that my plan, my plan will in fact create 18.6 million jobs, 7 million more than his.

01:26:20.000 This is from Wall Street.

01:26:22.000 A plan that involves someone digging a ditch and then filling it back with dirt is not a good job.

01:26:29.000 That's me paying for someone to waste their time.

01:26:42.000 If you look at his plan, his environment plan, you know who developed it?

01:26:46.000 AOC plus 3.

01:26:48.000 They know nothing about the climate.

01:26:51.000 I mean, she's got a good line of stuff, but she knows nothing about the climate.

01:26:55.000 And they're all hopping through hoops for AOC plus 3.

01:26:58.000 Look, their real plan costs $100 trillion.

01:27:03.000 If we had the best year in the history of our country for 100 years, we would not even come close to a number like that.

01:27:10.000 When he says buildings, they want to take buildings down because they want to make bigger windows into smaller windows.

01:27:16.000 As far as they're concerned, if you had no window, it would be a lovely thing.

01:27:20.000 This is the craziest plan that anybody has ever seen.

01:27:23.000 And this wasn't done by smart people.

01:27:26.000 This wasn't done by anybody.

01:27:29.000 Frankly, I don't even know how it can be good politically.

01:27:31.000 They want to spend $100 trillion.

01:27:34.000 That's their real number.

01:27:35.000 He's trying to say it was six.

01:27:37.000 It's $100 trillion.

01:27:38.000 They want to knock down buildings and build new buildings with little, tiny, small windows.

01:27:44.000 And many other things.

01:27:45.000 And many other things.

01:27:46.000 Let me have the vice president respond, and we're running out of time, and we have a lot more questions to answer.

01:27:50.000 So let's hear from the vice president and a number of more questions.

01:27:53.000 I don't know where he comes from.

01:27:55.000 I don't know where he comes up with these numbers.

01:27:56.000 New York.

01:27:57.000 100.

01:27:58.000 Queens.

01:27:58.000 Did you hear him?

01:27:59.000 No.

01:28:00.000 He said Queens.

01:28:01.000 This plan was, this is planned endorsement.

01:28:04.000 What was he trying to do?

01:28:04.000 Did you hear that?

01:28:05.000 No, I was reading.

01:28:06.000 Joe was like, I don't know where he comes from.

01:28:08.000 And he said, Queens.

01:28:16.000 Oh, that's funny because that's going in the notes as a win.

01:28:18.000 I'm going to do a score at the end here of who wins.

01:28:24.000 Excuse me, solar energy and wind.

01:28:27.000 He thinks wind causes cancer.

01:28:29.000 Windmills is the fastest growing jobs, and they pay good prevailing wages, $45, $50 an hour.

01:28:37.000 We can't do anything cleaner if we go there.

01:28:41.000 They sit and rot.

01:28:42.000 President Trump is a good person.

01:28:43.000 Please respond, and then I have to say that.

01:28:45.000 we are energy independent for the first time.

01:28:48.000 We don't need all of these countries that we had to fight war over because we needed their energy.

01:28:53.000 We are energy independent.

01:28:54.000 I know more about wind than you do.

01:28:56.000 It's extremely expensive, kills all the birds, it's very intermittent, it's got a lot of problems, and they happen to make the windmills in both Germany and China.

01:29:06.000 And the fumes coming up, if you're a believer in carbon emission, the fumes coming up to make these massive windmills is more than anything that we're talking about with natural gas, which is very good.

01:29:17.000 Same with electric cars and the coal they need.

01:29:19.000 I love solar, but solar doesn't quite have it yet.

01:29:22.000 It's not powerful yet to really run our farm.

01:29:25.000 I lived in a solar home.

01:29:27.000 It was hell on earth.

01:29:28.000 To compete with the world.

01:29:30.000 So it's all a pipe dream.

01:29:32.000 But you know what we'll do?

01:29:33.000 We're going to have the greatest economy in the world.

01:29:36.000 You did the laundry at my place in Costa Rica.

01:29:39.000 You couldn't do anything else for the rest of the day because you used everything up.

01:29:43.000 Our fridge was powered with a propane tank because the solar panels couldn't handle it.

01:29:49.000 You said it on tape.

01:29:50.000 Yes, you did.

01:29:51.000 You did.

01:29:52.000 Put it on your website.

01:29:52.000 I'll put it on.

01:29:53.000 Put it on the website.

01:29:54.000 The fact of the matter is it's flat lying.

01:29:57.000 You rule out banning fracking.

01:29:59.000 I do rule out banning fracking because the answer we need other industries to transition to get to ultimately a complete zero emissions by 2020.

01:30:11.000 What's the matter with fracking?

01:30:12.000 What did it pollute, like three water tables?

01:30:14.000 It's make sure that we can get 300 million from mines.

01:30:20.000 We can do that, and we can do that by investing money in doing it.

01:30:24.000 It's a transition to that.

01:30:26.000 I have one more question in this pot, and then we leave it.

01:30:29.000 He was against fracking.

01:30:30.000 He said it.

01:30:31.000 I will show that to you tomorrow.

01:30:33.000 I am against fracking until he got the nomination, went to Pennsylvania, then he said, but you know what, Pennsylvania?

01:30:39.000 He'll be against it very soon because his party is totally against it.

01:30:42.000 Fracking on federal land, I said, no fracking or oil on federal land.

01:30:47.000 Let me ask this final question in this section, and then I want to move on to our final section.

01:30:52.000 President Trump, people of color are much more likely to live near oil refineries and chemical plants.

01:30:57.000 In Texas, there are families who worry the plants near them are making them sick.

01:31:02.000 Your administration has rolled back regulations on these kinds of facilities.

01:31:06.000 Why should these families four years in office? 0.91

01:31:09.000 The families that we're talking about are employed heavily and they are making a lot of money, more money than they've ever made.

01:31:16.000 If you look at the kind of numbers that we produce for Hispanic, for black, for Asian, it's nine times greater the percentage gain than it was under in three years than it was under eight years of the two of them, 0.58

01:31:32.000 to put it nicely.

01:31:34.000 Nine times more.

01:31:36.000 Now, somebody lives, I have not heard the numbers or the statistics that you're saying, but they're making a tremendous amount of money economically.

01:31:46.000 We saved it, and I saved it again a number of months.

01:31:48.000 People are texting me now.

01:31:49.000 They should call it the Poor Boys, P-O-U-R. 1.00

01:31:53.000 Oh, they send you some memes that are going around now.

01:31:55.000 That's pretty good.

01:31:56.000 Mexico and Russia, to cut back way back, we saved our oil industry, and now it's very vibrant to get it. 0.93

01:32:03.000 And everybody has very inexpensive gasoline replacing.

01:32:05.000 Vice President Biden, your response, and then we're going to have a final question for both of you.

01:32:10.000 My response is that those people live on what they call fence lines.

01:32:13.000 He doesn't understand this.

01:32:14.000 They live near chemical plants that, in fact, pollute chemical plants and oil plants and refineries that pollute.

01:32:23.000 Why are you showing me?

01:32:25.000 And all, there are more oil refineries in Marcus Hook and Delaware River than there is any place, including in Houston at the time.

01:32:31.000 When my mom get in the car, when there were first frost.

01:32:35.000 Poor boy is a great sandwich.

01:32:37.000 It came from Louisiana.

01:32:38.000 Poor boys, stand down, stand by and stay.

01:32:43.000 It doesn't matter what you're paying them.

01:32:45.000 It matters how you keep them safe.

01:32:47.000 What do you do?

01:32:48.000 And you impose restrictions on the pollutions, the pollutants coming out of those fence line communities. 1.00

01:32:55.000 Okay.

01:32:55.000 I have one final question.

01:32:59.000 Would you close down the oil industry?

01:33:00.000 By the way, I have a transition from the oil industry.

01:33:02.000 Yes.

01:33:05.000 It is a big statement. 0.99

01:33:06.000 That was a big statement and a big fuck up. 0.99

01:33:09.000 Too quick. 0.99

01:33:10.000 Unfortunately, there's so many people on the left that like that kind of talk.

01:33:14.000 Well, if you let me finish the statement, because it has to be replaced by renewable energy over time.

01:33:21.000 Over time.

01:33:22.000 And I'd stop giving to the oil industry, I'd stop giving them federal subsidies.

01:33:26.000 He won't give federal subsidies to the gas, excuse me, to the water and wind.

01:33:33.000 Why are we giving it to the oil industry? 0.88

01:33:35.000 We actually do give it to solar and wind.

01:33:37.000 That's maybe the biggest statement in terms of business.

01:33:40.000 That's the biggest statement.

01:33:41.000 Because basically what he's saying is he is going to destroy the oil industry.

01:33:46.000 Will you remember that Texas?

01:33:48.000 Will you remember that Pennsylvania, Oklahoma?

01:33:50.000 Vice President Biden, let me give you 10 seconds to respond to that. 1.00

01:33:54.000 He fucked up. 1.00

01:33:55.000 He takes everything out of contact. 1.00

01:33:57.000 Someone just went like this.

01:33:59.000 And the person who gives him his Adderall, his little speed boost, he just got hit up the side of the head. 1.00

01:34:05.000 Clearly wasn't enough, fuckhead. 1.00

01:34:07.000 By 2015. 1.00

01:34:08.000 I didn't want him to have a heart attack.

01:34:11.000 No, we're finished with this.

01:34:11.000 Is he going to get China to do it?

01:34:12.000 This is our final question.

01:34:13.000 We have to go to the next step.

01:34:14.000 We have to join Paris Accord and make China buy what they agreed to. 0.87

01:34:18.000 All right, this is about leadership, gentlemen.

01:34:21.000 And this first question does go to you.

01:34:24.000 President Trump, imagine this is your inauguration day.

01:34:28.000 What will you say in your address to Americans who did not vote for you?

01:34:33.000 You'll each have one minute, starting with you, Mr. President.

01:34:35.000 We have to make a country totally successful as it was prior to the plague coming in from China. 1.00

01:34:41.000 Now we're rebuilding it and we're doing record numbers, 11.4 million jobs in a short period of time, et cetera.

01:34:47.000 But I will tell you, go back.

01:34:49.000 Before the plague came in, just before, I was getting calls from People that were not normally people that would call me, they wanted to get together.

01:34:57.000 We had the best black unemployment numbers in the history of our country.

01:35:01.000 Hispanic, women, Asian, people with diplomas, with no diplomas, MIT graduates, number one in the class.

01:35:10.000 Everybody had the best numbers.

01:35:12.000 And you know what?

01:35:12.000 The other side wanted to get together.

01:35:15.000 They wanted to unify.

01:35:16.000 Success is going to bring us together.

01:35:19.000 We are on the road to success.

01:35:20.000 But I'm cutting taxes, and he wants to raise everybody's taxes, and he wants to put new regulations on everything.

01:35:27.000 He will kill it.

01:35:28.000 If he gets in, you will have a depression the likes of which you've never seen. 0.97

01:35:32.000 Your 401ks will go to hell, and it'll be a very, very sad day for this country.

01:35:37.000 All right.

01:35:38.000 Vice President Biden, same question to you.

01:35:40.000 What will you say during your inaugural address to Americans who did not vote for you?

01:35:45.000 I will say, I'm an American president.

01:35:48.000 I represent all of you, whether you voted for me or against me.

01:35:51.000 And I'm going to make sure that you're represented.

01:35:54.000 I'm going to give you hope.

01:35:55.000 We're going to move.

01:35:56.000 We're going to choose science over fiction.

01:35:58.000 We're going to choose hope over fear.

01:36:00.000 We're going to choose forward because we have enormous opportunities.

01:36:04.000 Enormous opportunities.

01:36:05.000 Hope over fear.

01:36:06.000 His whole thing was fear.

01:36:07.000 I know.

01:36:07.000 This economy we can deal with the systemic racism.

01:36:11.000 At the same time, we can make sure that our economy is being run and moved and motivated by clean energy, creating millions of new jobs.

01:36:21.000 And that's the fact.

01:36:22.000 That's what we're going to do.

01:36:24.000 And I'm going to say, as I said at the beginning, what is on the ballot here is the character of this country.

01:36:30.000 Decency, honor, respect, treating people with dignity, making sure that everyone has an even chance.

01:36:37.000 And I'm going to make sure you get that.

01:36:39.000 You haven't been getting it the last four years.

01:36:42.000 All right.

01:36:42.000 I want to thank you both for a very robust hour and a half of fantastic debate.

01:36:47.000 Really appreciate it.

01:36:48.000 President Trump, former Vice President Joe Biden, thank you to Belmont University for hosting us tonight.

01:36:54.000 And most importantly, thank you to those watching tonight.

01:36:57.000 Election Day is November 3rd.

01:37:00.000 Don't forget to vote.

01:37:01.000 Thank you, everyone, and have a great night.

01:37:04.000 Thank you.

01:37:07.000 Can you do a wrap-up?

01:37:08.000 Yeah.

01:37:09.000 We're going to do a wrap-up, but let's see if they do a wrap-up.

01:37:12.000 Okay.

01:37:13.000 It's kind of cool that you can watch TV with no commercials, huh?

01:37:16.000 And center than the first debate, as you see the first lady making her way up to the stage, as well as Dr. Jill Bill with a mask there. 0.87

01:37:26.000 It was a debate of substance for all of the back and forth about the mute and how that was going to factor in.

01:37:33.000 It actually factored in well.

01:37:36.000 Candidates got a lot more to say than obviously that first debate.

01:37:40.000 President Trump had a recurring theme about being an outsider, about being an anti-politician, attacking Joe Biden for a while.

01:37:49.000 Keeping his toes erect from what he was wearing.

01:37:53.000 What did you get done in the eight years that you were vice president?

01:37:56.000 I think she has onions into the camera about character, about bringing the country together, having some of his strongest moments in that framework.

01:38:07.000 Pretty spirited, but got a lot of substance.

01:38:11.000 Yeah, it was a very constructive evening.

01:38:13.000 I think that Americans saw 96 minutes, I think it was, in the end, of a very spirited debate.

01:38:22.000 The two-minute response seemed to work well.

01:38:25.000 I think that President Trump is probably going to feel like he hit his mark a lot better this time than he did last time.

01:38:29.000 We saw clearly Donald Trump, the businessman, looking at the economy through the lens of creating jobs.

01:38:37.000 He was attacked.

01:38:40.000 Download sex pick tweets, which the girl looks like she's like 11. 1.00

01:38:45.000 Oh, that has to do with anything there, you end up with weird pedophile shit. 1.00

01:38:52.000 Is it on Google or DuckDuck? 1.00

01:38:58.000 Okay, are they still blabbing?

01:38:59.000 What are they saying?

01:39:08.000 We don't care about that.

01:39:09.000 Let's do the score.

01:39:10.000 You ready?

01:39:11.000 Yeah.

01:39:13.000 So what were the subjects here?

01:39:14.000 The topics were COVID, foreign policy, healthcare, immigration, the environment, race.

01:39:26.000 Am I missing one?

01:39:27.000 What was at the very end there?

01:39:29.000 Energy, right?

01:39:30.000 Or did you put that in front of you?

01:39:31.000 That's the environment.

01:39:33.000 Okay.

01:39:33.000 All right.

01:39:33.000 So let's, now I have a very random scoring thing here.

01:39:36.000 It's something I thought was big enough.

01:39:38.000 I wrote it down.

01:39:39.000 So the laptop, let's go up here.

01:39:42.000 So, yeah, that thing about the taxes was annoying.

01:39:45.000 Trump's taxes were released.

01:39:47.000 I think the $750 thing really sticks in people's craws.

01:39:51.000 It was a filing fee.

01:39:52.000 Here's what most Americans don't understand about rich people and entrepreneurs in general.

01:39:57.000 This is why the poor boys, I'm always calling them the poor boys from now on.

01:40:01.000 This is why the poor boys...

01:40:03.000 Actually, that doesn't really roll off the tongue.

01:40:05.000 Poor, poor, proud.

01:40:08.000 Yeah.

01:40:09.000 Poor.

01:40:09.000 It's like rural juror.

01:40:11.000 Poor boys.

01:40:12.000 Too many ogres.

01:40:14.000 They say the nicest words in the English language are seller door.

01:40:17.000 Cellar door.

01:40:19.000 Poor.

01:40:20.000 Well, door sounds like poor.

01:40:22.000 Yeah.

01:40:22.000 Anyway, poor boys.

01:40:25.000 No, I'm going to have to say proud boys.

01:40:26.000 Anyway, yeah, that's why Proud Boys say venerate the entrepreneur.

01:40:32.000 Because someone like our buddy whose dad worked his whole life to build a Japanese restaurant and then he gave it to our friend.

01:40:41.000 I won't say his name. 0.99

01:40:42.000 And then his friend busted his ass and it went under. 0.99

01:40:45.000 No one talks about that. 0.99

01:40:46.000 But if his restaurant was incredibly successful and he became the next David Chang, they go, oh, your daddy bought you a restaurant.

01:40:54.000 No, entrepreneurs fail.

01:40:56.000 My personal experience, and maybe I'm not very good at making money, but it's been about one in 12 of my ventures fail.

01:41:02.000 But I've made mills.

01:41:04.000 Oh, this is us.

01:41:06.000 So, what's this?

01:41:07.000 This is the Proud Boys.

01:41:08.000 When they see Joe Biden call them poor boys, they're all upset.

01:41:11.000 Of course.

01:41:12.000 They're not making merbs and laughs.

01:41:14.000 There's no humor involved in that.

01:41:15.000 We're pissed.

01:41:16.000 So mad.

01:41:17.000 They're pissed, I guess.

01:41:19.000 I don't know.

01:41:19.000 We're mad and I don't know if it's we or they.

01:41:24.000 And yeah, just almost as mad as the gay thing with George Takai. 0.99

01:41:29.000 Oh, God. 1.00

01:41:31.000 Why don't you Photoshop me fat too?

01:41:33.000 Oh, I'm not that fat. 0.98

01:41:37.000 If we want entrepreneurs to spend money, so say you spend a million dollars making like, I don't know, a giant fucking fun park, and it's a success. 0.88

01:41:47.000 And you make a million dollars that year.

01:41:49.000 Your profits are zero.

01:41:50.000 Should you pay the tax of the guy who made a million dollars?

01:41:54.000 No.

01:41:55.000 Trump was spending tens of millions of dollars on buildings.

01:41:59.000 He's making tens of millions of dollars.

01:42:00.000 If the balance is zero that year, you don't pay tax.

01:42:02.000 I've had years where I've paid $0 tax when I build a business. 0.98

01:42:05.000 I've had years where I've paid, one of my worst years was $360,000 in tax in one fucking year.

01:42:13.000 I saw that bill and I was like, I called my account and I go, you're not going to believe what happened with the decimal place on the tax bill. 0.82

01:42:21.000 They moved it over at least three or two.

01:42:25.000 And he goes, no, that's your bill, dude.

01:42:29.000 So he's paid, I believe over his career, $400 million in tax.

01:42:35.000 That means there's years where you get down to zero.

01:42:38.000 That's good.

01:42:40.000 Anyway, so, but is that, I'm going to call that a point for Biden because people don't get that concept.

01:42:48.000 All right, so that's the taxes being released.

01:42:50.000 And he says, you can look at my release.

01:42:53.000 Right?

01:42:54.000 The Chinese bank account.

01:42:57.000 No, that wasn't a thing for either side. 1.00

01:43:00.000 That's a really stupid thing. 0.98

01:43:01.000 It's okay to have a bank account in China. 1.00

01:43:03.000 You have to be a total moron not to know that a guy who does business all over the world would have bank accounts all over the world. 1.00

01:43:09.000 Especially with fucking China. 1.00

01:43:13.000 The laptop is in. 1.00

01:43:15.000 Laptop.

01:43:16.000 That's another word that doesn't roll off the tongue.

01:43:18.000 You want to say laptop.

01:43:21.000 Why is a p harder than a b pee pee? 0.84

01:43:25.000 B. B. Laptop.

01:43:28.000 Laptop.

01:43:29.000 More pushy.

01:43:30.000 I get it.

01:43:31.000 You have to exhale some air.

01:43:33.000 Laptop.

01:43:33.000 All you got to do is close your mouth.

01:43:34.000 Laptop.

01:43:35.000 You're building up an air when you do a pee.

01:43:37.000 With a pe, you got to go la and then hold on, boys. 1.00

01:43:40.000 Shut your mouth. 0.99

01:43:41.000 Build up a pile of air and then go laptop. 1.00

01:43:46.000 Laptop.

01:43:47.000 And you're doing two peas in a row.

01:43:49.000 You're like, I just did a pee.

01:43:50.000 No, you got to do another one.

01:43:51.000 What?

01:43:52.000 I did a pee like less than a second ago.

01:43:54.000 Sorry, dude.

01:43:55.000 I need two.

01:43:55.000 Laptop.

01:43:58.000 That's in.

01:43:59.000 That's a Trump.

01:44:01.000 All talk, no action was a general theme from Trump.

01:44:05.000 That was brilliant.

01:44:07.000 Destroy our country.

01:44:11.000 I don't think that worked.

01:44:13.000 I don't think that was a home run.

01:44:15.000 Queens was a home run. 1.00

01:44:17.000 Yep, trying to look for that.

01:44:18.000 You'll notice that there's a method to my madness here, but jokes count as much as a joke can be as effective as a laptop.

01:44:26.000 I mean, low energy Jeb was a joke, and it destroyed Jeb Bush's entire political career forever.

01:44:34.000 Little Marco, Lion Ted, all of these little quips can be much deadlier weapons than the laptop from hell.

01:44:44.000 Which was a great quote, but I'm not giving you two scores for one laptop.

01:44:53.000 We do have institutional racism. 1.00

01:44:55.000 Now, this is a tough one because so many fucking idiots believe that. 1.00

01:45:01.000 I'm just going to cross it out and not put it on there. 1.00

01:45:04.000 The jail stuff, all is jail, putting men in jail.

01:45:08.000 And by the way, when I'm doing this score, I'm like, what's the general takeaway?

01:45:11.000 Not what I think or what a Republican thinks.

01:45:13.000 I'm like, what does a moderate think?

01:45:16.000 And I think Biden did very badly on all the black people in prison.

01:45:25.000 A super damaging term was transition.

01:45:28.000 That was, I almost want to do two points for this.

01:45:33.000 That destroyed him because you have how many millions of jobs. 0.99

01:45:39.000 Did I finish my other fucking beer already? 0.99

01:45:42.000 One of them? 0.99

01:45:44.000 How many millions of jobs are reliant on fossil fuels? 0.89

01:45:48.000 It's such a dumb, maybe for a small like governor or representative in a really liberal town or state that doesn't have a lot of energy, a lot of fracking, I could see that being an okay thing to say. 1.00

01:46:01.000 But to America, the fossil fuels thing is stupid. 1.00

01:46:07.000 And he said, we're going to transition away. 1.00

01:46:10.000 The banning fracking thing, that's the same.

01:46:17.000 Poor boys, that doesn't get him a, that's not on anyone's score.

01:46:22.000 Hunter, Biden, I think that's the same as laptop, right?

01:46:27.000 Oh, I have a theory here.

01:46:28.000 This doesn't have anything to do with the scores.

01:46:30.000 When we did Vice, when Shane Smith, we called him the CEO, whisperer, because we'd be making no money and he convinced the guy that we're all going to be billionaires, which ends up being a self-fulfilling prophecy.

01:46:42.000 If he had a major thing to do, he wouldn't work the day before, like a major meeting with like, say, HBO or Viacom.

01:46:49.000 He'd have a bath like that night, have a long 12-hour night of sleep, wake up, have a long, long breakfast, not come into the office at all. 0.92

01:47:01.000 And so he had just had like 30 hours of total relaxation, watch a movie, read a book, fuck his girlfriend, whatever, and not talk about work. 0.97

01:47:10.000 And then he would go in and just destroy in the meeting. 0.99

01:47:13.000 And I heard Michael J. Fox, the way he doesn't spazz out is he has like three days off doing nothing at all.

01:47:21.000 And then they sort of wheel him to the commercial where he's going to be doing a back to the future thing.

01:47:26.000 And he only has like four Twitches. 0.97

01:47:29.000 And then he's so destroyed after that, like three hours of shooting that they have to like wheel him back to his basement and he lies there crying and napping for several days.

01:47:38.000 To recharge.

01:47:39.000 I think that's what they do with Biden.

01:47:42.000 Because he put a lid on it like two days ago.

01:47:45.000 So he's just been like in a sauna, getting a massage, chilling out.

01:47:49.000 And that's why I'm actually willing to give up on The drug theory and just say it's two days of preparing, and then he only adds like an hour and a half.

01:48:00.000 We saw him losing it towards the end there.

01:48:01.000 Yeah, with the poor boys, like poor boys.

01:48:04.000 Poor boys.

01:48:06.000 It says to the about the poor boys.

01:48:08.000 Last time we were on stage.

01:48:09.000 Wait, is that not you?

01:48:09.000 That's already on YouTube?

01:48:11.000 Oh, yeah.

01:48:11.000 Somebody, yeah, this guy clipped it.

01:48:14.000 G-Goal L-O-L.

01:48:15.000 G-G-LOL.

01:48:16.000 About the poor boys.

01:48:17.000 Last time we were on stage here, he said, I told him to stand down and stand ready.

01:48:22.000 Come on.

01:48:23.000 This guy has a dog whistle about as big as a foghorn.

01:48:26.000 Oh, that's a good one.

01:48:27.000 That's funny.

01:48:31.000 Got the quote totally wrong.

01:48:32.000 Lots of talk of money for schools.

01:48:35.000 That's going to help the lobbyists. 0.85

01:48:37.000 But you're not looking for lobbyists right now, my friend.

01:48:40.000 You're looking for votes.

01:48:42.000 So all this talk about money, money, money, I think I'm going to put that in a Trump category because he said very clearly, and I think this is the key to the entire debate, was the phrase, they need the help.

01:48:58.000 That's where we separate as a country.

01:49:00.000 And that's, the only other one that's that drastic is abortion.

01:49:05.000 Are you pro-choice? 1.00

01:49:06.000 Do you think women should be able to get abortions if they fucked up and they were dumb sluts who got wasted? 1.00

01:49:11.000 Or do you think it's murder? 1.00

01:49:13.000 We split on that.

01:49:14.000 And there's little compromise.

01:49:16.000 And this whole concept of they need the help, they're going through a rough time.

01:49:20.000 You know, when it started, when Mel first started, I guess it was, what, the 50s, 60s, they'd send you like flour and eggs and milk and, you know, basics so you could make some food.

01:49:31.000 Your mom could make some food for you so you wouldn't be hungry.

01:49:34.000 Now it's fucking in the Bronx, they have these big blue buckets where Dominicans will fill them up in the shop with food stamps. 0.93

01:49:43.000 And then the store itself will ship it to DR where they will use it to stock shelves in stores in Dominican Republic. 0.97

01:49:52.000 And I see them by my boxing gym just wheeling a big blue bucket down the street.

01:49:57.000 And that's someone using their food stamp money.

01:50:00.000 How can you not look this up?

01:50:02.000 Food stamp.

01:50:04.000 Blue bucket.

01:50:05.000 Yeah, we did the blue bucket thing.

01:50:06.000 I was trying to see the EBT card fraud, how abundant that is.

01:50:12.000 There's ship clubs that take EBT cards. 0.98

01:50:15.000 There's fucking drug dealers that will go, I'll take, I'll give you like 20% of whatever it is. 0.97

01:50:21.000 So you give them an EBT card that's worth $100. 1.00

01:50:24.000 To them, it's worth $20.

01:50:26.000 You can buy $20 of drugs.

01:50:27.000 Yeah, that's the famous article.

01:50:28.000 This explains it all. 0.99

01:50:29.000 I gotten so much shit for saying this on Fox from all these Dominicans. 1.00

01:50:33.000 And I would just send this article and go, this was back when I was on Twitter. 0.98

01:50:36.000 I could defend myself.

01:50:38.000 Anyway, that was a big one, but I'm not putting it in either the Trump or the Biden one because our side goes, no, they don't need the help.

01:50:47.000 You're making it worse.

01:50:49.000 The Lord helps those who help themselves.

01:50:51.000 We obviously want to help out some single mom widow who, you know, is starving to death, but that's not what this is for anymore. 0.99

01:50:59.000 So they mostly don't need the help.

01:51:02.000 And then the left, who doesn't talk to poor people, doesn't know about the blue buckets or anything like that, blue barrels, they go, they're just trying, they're just going through a rough patch.

01:51:12.000 So that doesn't do anything.

01:51:14.000 But I would say this pathway to citizenship asylum seekers talk Biden was doing is a score for Trump.

01:51:21.000 Because when most people, sane people, on both sides think of asylum seekers, they think of Europe. 0.96

01:51:32.000 And they see these Syrians raping. 0.93

01:51:33.000 They think of the head lying on the street in Paris. 1.00

01:51:36.000 They're not into it.

01:51:45.000 We might get the house and the Supreme Court.

01:51:47.000 This has nothing to do with the score.

01:51:48.000 I just thought it was interesting that he says we might get the house.

01:51:51.000 This is why everyone I talk to, all the MAGA dads I talk to, they go, I care a lot about politics right now and I haven't before because this is the election.

01:52:02.000 The why of things.

01:52:05.000 We get the house.

01:52:10.000 We have Supreme Court judges that are qualified.

01:52:13.000 We can permanently alter America. 0.62

01:52:16.000 It's a cliff right now.

01:52:17.000 We can turn it around away from the cliff or it can go off the cliff.

01:52:20.000 If Biden loses, this country is irrevocably damaged. 1.00

01:52:25.000 I mean, fuck. 1.00

01:52:28.000 Where will my kids grow up? 1.00

01:52:30.000 Probably Queens. 1.00

01:52:32.000 I don't know where he comes from.

01:52:34.000 I don't know where he comes up with these numbers.

01:52:36.000 Queens.

01:52:37.000 100 trillion.

01:52:42.000 I'm glad he wasn't muted.

01:52:43.000 They said they were going to mute them.

01:52:45.000 Yeah, I heard a little bit of muting, but it was used very sparingly.

01:52:48.000 In all, that was a great debate.

01:52:50.000 That was great.

01:52:50.000 Yeah.

01:52:51.000 I thought Biden did really well.

01:52:53.000 I thought he had some strong points.

01:52:54.000 The COVID thing.

01:52:55.000 Oh, yeah, that's what I wanted to start with.

01:52:57.000 So with COVID, his angle was, as Ryan pointed out, I knew about it.

01:53:04.000 I didn't tell people.

01:53:05.000 I let it spread everywhere.

01:53:07.000 That's a really strong point.

01:53:09.000 And I think most liberals are focused on COVID.

01:53:13.000 I think they're disappointed in Hunter Biden's laptop, but it's sort of like Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky.

01:53:18.000 They're just like, boys will be boys.

01:53:21.000 But if Trump would have got to this sooner, we wouldn't have 200,000 people dead.

01:53:25.000 I don't believe that, but they do.

01:53:28.000 That's a big one.

01:53:30.000 So I'm going to give that two.

01:53:32.000 One for Trump holding back on that.

01:53:35.000 I don't know if he did hold back on that, but that doesn't really matter at this point.

01:53:38.000 So one for Trump holding back on that.

01:53:42.000 And then one for the actual death toll of 200,000.

01:53:46.000 He could be running against JFK.

01:53:48.000 I'm sorry.

01:53:48.000 He could be running against Kim Jong-un right now.

01:53:51.000 But the fact that 200,000 people are allegedly dead, I think it's 100,000, that's a huge strike for him.

01:53:58.000 So that's two negative points for Trump on COVID.

01:54:03.000 The friends with Kim Jong-un thing, I don't think that was a point for either side. 0.98

01:54:07.000 That was a dumb thing to say.

01:54:08.000 The idea that him and Kim Jong-un are buddy-buddy, so what? 0.99

01:54:12.000 It's only corrupt when that country can do you harm or take you over.

01:54:16.000 Like the Putin thing is better.

01:54:19.000 So to say Trump is with Putin is a smart Criticism because then we're scared of Russia taking over our country and infiltrating our system and destroying us the way they destroy themselves.

01:54:30.000 And then saying Biden is in bed with China is a good accusation because China is an enemy, they could take over our country.

01:54:36.000 Exact same thing.

01:54:38.000 But North Korea? 0.62

01:54:41.000 He was friendly with the local crackhead. 0.59

01:54:45.000 Okay?

01:54:46.000 The crackheads do crime.

01:54:48.000 I want to be friendly with him.

01:54:49.000 I want to know what he's up to. 1.00

01:54:50.000 He's a fucking loser. 1.00

01:54:53.000 And if we attack him or do something major to him, he'll just kill everyone in North Korea. 1.00

01:54:57.000 So we have a psycho crackhead with a fucking suicide button, a suicide vest. 1.00

01:55:03.000 Say to him, hey man, you're cool. 1.00

01:55:05.000 All right.

01:55:06.000 Yeah.

01:55:07.000 So that's not a point against Trump.

01:55:10.000 Hey, you're cool.

01:55:15.000 You're a large marsupial that I can't remember the name of.

01:55:18.000 Cabby Barra.

01:55:19.000 No, yeah, not quite this.

01:55:22.000 Aunt Eater, but no. 0.89

01:55:24.000 No, not Aunt Eater.

01:55:26.000 And then the other annoying thing was this whole children separated from families. 1.00

01:55:29.000 You're so fucking naive, liberals. 1.00

01:55:34.000 Yeah, that's it. 1.00

01:55:36.000 At my place in Costa Rica, you just wake up and see one on your lawn.

01:55:39.000 That's really cool.

01:55:39.000 They're huge.

01:55:41.000 This big.

01:55:41.000 And it's a rat.

01:55:42.000 Doesn't it stink or something?

01:55:44.000 You bum me out about some fact about it.

01:55:46.000 Because they look fun to hang out with, but if they're going to stink, no way. 0.82

01:55:53.000 I'll even kiss the men. 0.76

01:55:55.000 Yeah, how frustrating was that thing about the kids? 1.00

01:55:58.000 You think this fucking narrative of this sweet Mexican family walking over the border to come help us pick lettuce. 0.99

01:56:06.000 And we brought our baby because he's so hungry. 1.00

01:56:09.000 Please, can we pick your lettuce for one cent an hour and help you eat and serve you burritos? 0.87

01:56:15.000 And then please, can we live over there in the barrio in the slum and just maybe have some food and a roof over our head, please?

01:56:23.000 Nothing wrong with that. 1.00

01:56:25.000 It's fucking criminals and they use kids as pawns. 1.00

01:56:29.000 They rape women during the trip. 1.00

01:56:32.000 That's just a given. 0.99

01:56:32.000 Women take birth control. 0.99

01:56:33.000 I'm getting raped. 1.00

01:56:34.000 And then they have these poor bastard kids. 1.00

01:56:36.000 The way children are treated there is shocking. 1.00

01:56:39.000 So that was just a lie.

01:56:41.000 But did it work as a score against Trump, the cages thing?

01:56:45.000 I don't think so.

01:56:46.000 I'm crossing it off.

01:56:47.000 I'm only counting punches that landed.

01:56:50.000 And there was a lot of jabs in this fight.

01:56:52.000 He parried with that cage punch. 0.92

01:56:56.000 Very...

01:56:58.000 Who built the cages, Joe?

01:57:01.000 Also in my notes here, the weird Iran-Russia thing.

01:57:09.000 If you're remotely curious, you know that the poor boys were accused of sending death threats to people, right?

01:57:16.000 We discovered that was Iran.

01:57:17.000 The left is saying that that was good for Iran. 0.91

01:57:22.000 I mean, sorry, good for the DNC because it was Trump being evil.

01:57:27.000 That's so bizarre to me.

01:57:28.000 There was a writer on Mother Jones who said that you realize when you put stuff on the TriCaster to cool it, you're cooking it, right?

01:57:46.000 So, like, go to my parlor.

01:57:49.000 There was some dude from Mother Jones who didn't get that the hack makes the left look bad.

01:57:57.000 Right.

01:57:58.000 Which I find to be so confusing.

01:58:01.000 Because he goes, no, it made Trump look bad. 0.66

01:58:03.000 It was Trump supporters trying to kill people.

01:58:06.000 No, it was clearly Iran pretending to be Trump supporters. 0.99

01:58:09.000 Keep going down.

01:58:12.000 Yeah, there it is.

01:58:14.000 No, no, no, above that.

01:58:16.000 Yeah, David Korn.

01:58:19.000 If Ratcliffe is talking about the Prowboys emails that aim to intimidate Democratic voters, how does that damage Trump?

01:58:27.000 David, you grown man who has white hair, so you're probably my age or older.

01:58:33.000 An email going out saying we know who you are. 1.00

01:58:36.000 If you don't vote for Trump, we'll kill you, makes Trump look bad. 1.00

01:58:41.000 Not knowing that boggles the mind. 1.00

01:58:45.000 There he is. 1.00

01:58:46.000 You can be a fucking meathead and work at Mother Jones and be an analyst for MSNBC. 1.00

01:58:56.000 He looks perpetually perplexed. 1.00

01:59:00.000 That's what meatheads look like. 0.90

01:59:04.000 All right.

01:59:06.000 So the hack, I think that is a score against Biden.

01:59:17.000 Should we give the hack a score for Trump?

01:59:20.000 The Iran thing? 0.95

01:59:21.000 Yeah.

01:59:22.000 Yeah.

01:59:22.000 Because that makes Trump look good.

01:59:25.000 Run through a motherfucker face. 1.00

01:59:27.000 The China thing, we're not counting that. 1.00

01:59:28.000 That was a punch didn't land.

01:59:32.000 Tax returns. 1.00

01:59:33.000 China is asshole. 1.00

01:59:34.000 A punch didn't land. 1.00

01:59:36.000 Make money in China.

01:59:37.000 Okay.

01:59:38.000 So in total, we had five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven major punches in this fight.

01:59:45.000 It was a pretty good fight.

01:59:47.000 But when you tally it up, seven of those punches were successfully delivered by Donald Trump, and only four punches were delivered by Biden.

01:59:59.000 It was not a knockout, unfortunately.

02:00:01.000 I was begging for Biden to start looking around the room and asking where he was.

02:00:07.000 That would have been so fantastic.

02:00:08.000 A knockout would have been a great fight.

02:00:10.000 But by decision, we have Donald Trump, a victory.

02:00:14.000 Donald Trump wins 7-4.

02:00:18.000 And that debate was yet another example of why Trump is king and why he will be winning in a landslide this November. 1.00

02:00:29.000 Lock up your doors, put fucking plywood on your windows. 0.99

02:00:34.000 The left is going to go ballistic when they understand that this score represents the next four years and possibly the next 40 years of America. 0.99

02:00:42.000 The right is winning.

02:00:44.000 The left is lost.

02:00:45.000 And I think they're lost because they don't talk to people.

02:00:48.000 They don't know that Mexicans use orphans to cross the border. 0.74

02:00:52.000 They don't Know what black people are really like. 1.00

02:00:55.000 They've never talked to cops. 1.00

02:00:56.000 They just have this silly Dr. Zeus pie-in-the-sky idea of environmentalism as the Lorax.

02:01:03.000 And there's these sweet little families that just want to help people. 0.99

02:01:07.000 No, there's some bad shit out there, and we're aware of it. 0.97

02:01:10.000 And we're going to expose everyone to it because there's not a truth existing, which we fear or would want unknown to the whole world. 0.99

02:01:18.000 In other words, be brave.

02:01:20.000 Get fired.

02:01:22.000 Never stop fighting.

02:01:24.000 Wait, that's not it.

02:01:26.000 Get fired.

02:01:27.000 Get in trouble.

02:01:28.000 Be brave.

02:01:29.000 And never stop fighting. 1.00

02:01:44.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

02:01:45.000 In the middle. 1.00

02:01:46.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

02:01:46.000 Break the road. 1.00

02:01:47.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

02:01:48.000 Internet. 1.00

02:01:49.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

02:01:49.000 Slippery. 1.00

02:01:50.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

02:01:52.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - October 23, 2020

S03E28 - SECOND PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE [2020-10-23 - S03E28 - SECOND PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE]

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