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Goldie Ghamari
- April 19, 2026
NewsMax Iran Interview with Rita Cosby - April 18, 2026
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Day 50 of the war with Iran. President Trump says the U.S. blockade on the Strait of Hormuz
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will remain in place, causing Iran to close the strait yet again. Lots of details today.
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Well, here to comment, former IDF Special Operations Commander Doran Campbell. There
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he is. Also, Iranian-born human rights activist Goldie Qumari and Naval Explosive Ordinance
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Disposal Officer Tom Sauer. It's so great to have all of you guys. Tom, let's get to
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you, because President Trump saying that his naval blockade on the Strait of Hormuz is
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in full force until a deal is reached. And now we just heard in the last few hours that
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Iran is responding by saying that they are closing the strait again, that they control the
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strait. Who's in control here, Tom? And how could they take over the strait with all the U.S.
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naval assets in that area? That's a great question. And I think what it's really coming
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down to now is that there really isn't anyone that's truly in control of Iran. Keep in mind,
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we killed a very large number of their leadership, and we've taken out their command and control.
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So it does seem like there are multiple factions within the IRGC and within the existing Iranian
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government. Keep in mind that one of the reasons why, you know, a lot of people talk about regime
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change, but I feel that there are too many different warring factions for any one person
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to be controlled. So we don't really know who we're dealing with, and that is going to be a
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challenge for us. Goldie, what are you hearing also from Iran? I mean, this is a big development
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if indeed they're taking back the strait. Yeah, absolutely. So Tom is absolutely correct there.
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The Islamic regime right now, it's separated into at least three different factions. They're all
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fighting with one another. So the Qalibaf camp, the one that initially made this agreement,
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they're currently in conflict with other factions within the IRGC who want to continue attacking
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the Americans and who want to close the Strait of Hormuz. So the Islamic regime is in a state
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of chaos right now, and it's slowly collapsing on the inside. Well, let's hope so. You know,
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meantime, President Trump, I want to play. This is what he said aboard Air Force One last night.
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Watch. I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe I won't extend it. But the blockade is going to remain.
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But maybe I won't extend it. So you have a blockade and unfortunately we'll have to start
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dropping bombs again. That's a pretty strong statement. So, Doran, how soon could we expect
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to see bombs maybe dropping again? What should President Trump do, especially in light of this
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new news today, Doran? Two options. First of all, just to remind the audience, we've already
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accomplished a tactical objective. We've eradicated the Iran military. Now there's negotiation
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in order to get to some deal and bring our forces home. If that doesn't work, then we're basically
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going to view that as a timeout that we've taken and then full force forward. We'll know in a few
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days. By the way, to your prior question, the U.S. is in control of the Straits, but it's not
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complete control. The Iranians don't have a navy. They can bother some of the ships there, and
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everybody's trying to get a little bit of leverage in whatever is left of the negotiation.
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Yeah, it's sort of the last licks, if you will, last opportunity. Do you believe that
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also, Goldie, do you believe that this is sort of just last moments and maybe blustering by Iran's
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part? Absolutely. You know, ultimately, you can't negotiate with terrorists. And President Trump is
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showing that to the world because he's trying to convince them to surrender. I mean, he's absolutely
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correct. All the leaders are dead. They have no Navy. They have no Air Force. All they have is
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some ships here and there shooting at ships that are trying to go through. So I think President
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Trump is making it very clear why he needs to go in and just completely obliterate them. And I think
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that's what we're going to see, because ultimately, you cannot negotiate with terrorists. You cannot
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trust them. And President Trump has said that after 47 years of the Islamic regime
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bullying people around. He's going to put a stop to it. And Tom, before we go, I want to get your
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take on also the nuclear material because President Trump said yesterday that Iran agreed to hand it
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over, but now Iran is saying they aren't giving it up. This was Trump's red line. I think it's
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many people in the world's red line. What needs to be done? How could we get that?
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Well, one thing that's interesting is I actually spent a good part of my career dealing with
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weapons of mass destruction. And for what it's worth, if it makes anyone feel better,
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there are units and organizations within the United States military that deal specifically
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with this issue, with underground facilities, all of that, and how to take it. Now,
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keep in mind, though, is although we don't want to do boots on the ground, if there has to be a
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special, you know, special operation to get it, there might be. And there are thousands of marines
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and airborne paratroopers who will be really upset if they don't get to kill anyone this year.
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Oh, wow. Okay. So, Doran, I got to get your response to that, especially in light of the fact
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that President Trump was saying that the material is essentially dust, that it sort of, you know,
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enriched uranium dust because of the B-2 bombers that came in in June. So how do we get it, Doran?
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Well, I don't have the intel regarding the material, but in order to get the material in
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an unfriendly way, that's a serious operation. You need to control the area,
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defended people that need to go in. We don't know under how many layers of land that material is.
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Serious operation with a lot of ground forces. Hopefully, we don't need to do that.
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Yeah, let's hope not. And let's hope peace discussions get back on track and get back
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on track soon. All of you, thank you very much. Doran, Goldie, and Tom,
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really appreciate it. Thank you, guys. Thank you, Rita. Thank you.
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