In this episode, we have a double header interview featuring a religious studies professor and author of the new book, Christ or Collapse, David Miller Haskell. We talk about the current state of free speech in Canada, including the Bill C-9 that is coming into effect at midnight tonight, as well as a special interview with one of the most persecuted men in the country.
00:02:06.420But first, I have a religious studies professor.
00:02:11.100He was in the documentary that I did on free speech
00:02:14.520and he's written a new book called Christ or Collapse, all about Christian society and how0.50
00:02:22.960if we don't get back to that, well, things are not going to go well for us. But without further
00:02:26.580ado, let me introduce the one and only David Miller Haskell. How are you doing today, sir?
00:02:32.660I'm great. Thanks. What a great introduction.
00:02:35.660Hey, I do what I can with what I got. But I kind of want to jump back just to you came to the
00:02:42.640screening of uh the hate network the the upcoming documentary will have a new title but you're at
00:02:48.300the initial screening in the gta for the hate network thanks for coming up for that and um
00:02:52.820during the q a you uh one of your answers kind of gave me a curveball uh because during the q a i
00:02:59.820asked the people on stage something to do with free speech and its importance and you're kind
00:03:04.800of like yeah i don't know if i like free speech i don't know if i actually like it i don't know
00:03:08.420if i like all these leftists saying things like trans women are women i think i would actually
00:03:12.920maybe like a law where they're not allowed to say things like that and i'm like you know what uh
00:03:18.000doesn't really work for what we're talking about with the documentary but i i think that is a
00:03:22.140perspective that that is gaining it's a perspective that's gaining more sort of um we'll say momentum
00:03:28.020and energy which is huh it's almost like all of these people who are trying to usurp more power
00:03:34.840and influence in our society they uh they don't actually don't want that kind of to be a mutual
00:03:40.420thing because you know in many respects christians are the ones at the receiving end of a lot of the
00:03:44.680prosecution and kind of like lopsided unfairness but um i don't know where you wanted to start
00:03:50.520maybe kind of give us a summary of the the book that you've recently published it's quite exciting
00:03:55.600or yeah i'll tell you about that but but just to pick up on or to pull on a thread that you've
00:04:02.000you've introduced sure this idea of of coexistence between antithetical ideologies it doesn't make
00:04:11.360sense you know it it is unworkable and so when i say something like i'm actually against complete
00:04:20.320free speech i want to go back to the the the free speech that we saw before 1960 and people say well
00:04:28.800And people are already accusing me because of the book, Christ or Collapse.
00:04:32.400They're already saying, oh, you want a theocracy.
00:04:35.600You want to have a totalitarian regime.
00:04:37.640And I say, no, I want to go back to pre-1960s.
00:04:41.560And nobody in their right mind, no historian, no politician, no observer ever said that pre-1960s Canada or pre-1960s America was a theocracy or a totalitarian regime.
00:08:19.960well, Joe Rogan, he wouldn't call himself a Christian
00:08:22.240at this point, he is going to church right now.
00:08:24.420But before they even began to talk about
00:08:27.920the metaphysical side of Christianity,
00:08:30.300they were already convinced by the empirical side.
00:08:33.720It's just undeniable that there is better life in a Christian society.
00:08:41.740And so they looked at that and they said, OK, well, maybe maybe there's something more divine about this if I looked at the theological side.
00:08:48.660So I don't think anybody's done a book like this because I think that, well, one, most academics really don't like Christianity and they endeavor to make it look like it is something that is oppressive.
00:09:01.600and secondly the other people who are playing in this camp they tend to go the theological route
00:09:05.940you know that's so interesting um and yeah if you guys want to look it up again it's christ or
00:09:11.760collapse uh you can look up uh david millard haskell's twitter account d millard haskell
00:09:17.940and there's links to more information there um you know we'll talk about reviews we'll connect
00:09:23.440it to c9 but but i first you brought up something that i really wanted to pull on which is um
00:09:27.960academics don't really like christianity and isn't it interesting you know because there's a lot of
00:09:33.860stories in the bible i think there's a lot of you know i've actually started to read the bible for
00:09:38.820the very first time like not cover to cover but like book by book in the bible and um there's just
00:09:45.220so much terrific storytelling and there's like the story of the you know the persecuted minority
00:09:53.960like all over the place like that like there's so many examples of this uh there's so many
00:09:58.980examples of like the power of compassion helping the needy and all these things which which in a
00:10:03.460way are sort of all leftist coded if i could use the kind of crude term but um you know why are
00:10:10.540they throwing the baby out with the bath water why do you know like why are academics almost like
00:10:15.160like you know so uh oppositional to this when in theory based on what they believe with their
00:10:20.940compassion should they not at least hold on to bits and pieces of the bible or you know that's
00:10:25.900a really good observation that's and uh i have thought about that a lot and you're you're saying
00:10:31.880that christianity in its championing championing championing of compassion really is a world leader
00:10:39.640so why wouldn't they just get on board with that the the uh there was an author his name was gk
00:10:45.300Chesterton. He's an English guy. And he noted that today's progressivism is just Christian
00:10:52.160virtue gone mad. And another way that I would address that is it's Christian virtue gone0.96
00:10:58.740unbalanced. So Christianity is genius because it has always been able to keep intention to0.99
00:11:06.700equal and opposite forces. So within Christianity is the idea of mercy,
00:11:12.300but also is the idea of justice and christians are called to support both but what the left
00:11:20.380does today is mercy mercy mercy especially for a truck driver who was incompetent who was ill
00:11:27.320trained maybe didn't even have his real license and he kills people on the 401 oh we don't want
00:11:32.680to sentence him it might affect his ability to get citizenship in canada we see people who have0.82
00:11:39.680raped young children in their care, and again, they are given mercy. Whereas Christianity says,0.61
00:11:47.280no, there are times where justice is where we need to go. Similarly, we see this notion of
00:11:54.460the difference between grace and truth. Well, grace says, let's give you unmerited favor,
00:12:02.680but truth says sometimes to be the most loving, you've got to be the most harsh. Well, we're
00:12:08.940afraid to cause offense now. And it's absolutely because we've lost true Christianity, the both0.98
00:12:16.860sides of Christianity. Our society's in the mess, it is. Christianity was always a balance. And0.98
00:12:24.840these are not my ideas. They're rooted in doctrine. And then they were, they used to be
00:12:29.880actually part of our laws. And then in the 1960s, they said, we've got to get rid of that
00:12:34.900Christian component in the name of pluralism and tolerance. And we abandoned those moral absolutes
00:12:41.560that actually were what moored our society, moored our civilization to success. So why do
00:12:49.840academics hate Christianity? I'm going to give you a very quick reason. And it is because Christianity
00:12:59.120is telling them that there is somebody, which is God, who actually knows more than they do,
00:13:11.420and also calls them to a higher law. So if you go back to the very first story in the Bible,
00:13:19.660the very first story is Adam and Eve. They want to be able to determine what good and evil is.
00:13:25.740the very first sin of all humanity when humanity falls is that we decide or our first the first
00:13:32.760humans decide they want to determine what good and evil is well that is what university professors
00:13:38.740are today they're angry at christianity because they want to the the university professors want
00:13:45.520to determine what good and evil is and so and they really don't like go ahead yeah so so the
00:13:50.940the important word there is is to know right they want to know what good and evil is because the
00:13:56.880first sin is the biting of the apple the forbidden fruit of like the tree of knowledge like you will
00:14:01.700know all of these things right um and uh so that's interesting because it's almost like an active
00:14:09.520thing as an academic is like well i'm going to know more and i'm going to kind of like learn and
00:14:14.240learn and learn it and i guess in a way it's like um i think gad sad had the idea of like they're
00:14:19.640always looking for more racism i'm kind of butchering it now right right but uh as an
00:14:24.580academic you're always looking for more knowledge um and this is kind of getting off not necessarily
00:14:31.260on a tangent but you know a lot of this came from this post-modernism and now post-modernism is kind
00:14:36.080of just constantly eating itself and eating whatever is left in sight and it's just kind
00:14:39.740of this ongoing thing of more knowledge and more knowledge and it's now now it's kind of
00:14:44.600unrecognizable you know when it kind of obliterates objective morality and objective truth
00:14:49.540okay and you mentioned this word objective morality you see at some point you need to have
00:14:57.060an absolute and and you just do because if you don't if you don't have an absolute that is
00:15:04.560created by god you will have an absolute that is created by man by humans so today our absolutes
00:15:12.420are things like you cannot say that a biological man can't become a woman. That's now under gender
00:15:22.080ideology. So you will always have absolutes that are enforced. You will always have blasphemy laws1.00
00:15:29.460that are enforced. But the problem is, is when you have someone who is not absolute making a moral0.81
00:15:37.080absolute. There's no validity. But when you have God making the moral absolute, and God has the
00:15:45.520best interests of human beings in mind, then those moral absolutes can guide society toward thriving.
00:15:55.380And now that's a theological claim. And in my book, Christ or Collapse, I say, I'm going to
00:16:01.340prove that theological claim. I'm not even going to appeal to theology. I'm just going to show you
00:16:06.420The extent to which human beings align with the doctrine of Christianity, they surpass everybody else in terms of their economic success, in terms of their happiness, life satisfaction, their marriages, their children.
00:16:25.600So I don't have to argue from a theological position because I've got empirical evidence.
00:16:31.040and just to play devil's advocate of what the leftist would say they would say like this would
00:16:38.020be their counter argument to your book well david um there's a lot of white supremacy and colonization
00:16:45.820of of persecuting other minorities and that's the only reason that these societies were better
00:16:51.280because they were persecuting others and and and um this is this is just a happenstance people just
00:17:00.060happen to be more moral they just happen to be good neighbors nothing to do with christianity
00:17:04.820whatsoever they just happen to be uh good also because they persecuted and colonized other people
00:17:11.420i'm i'm actually it's kind of falling apart as you as i try to no no but obviously they they
00:17:16.820will always want to give another reason uh so i mean i i go at this at length in the book but
00:17:26.020i'll give you one example right uh and i always as best i can i try to appeal to really rigorous
00:17:33.880statistical evidence so on this topic their their argument is that goodness can happen anywhere
00:17:41.160and that a society will just develop goodness because some people are good and some people
00:17:46.720aren't it has nothing to do with christianity so i would i would say to them okay i'm going to give
00:17:52.540you a study that is really, it's equivalent to E equals MC squared. This is a study that blew
00:17:58.960the roof off social science. And it was done by a guy named Robert Woodbury. Now, Robert Woodbury
00:18:04.600in 2016 produces this study and he publishes it in the American Journal of Political Science,
00:18:10.840top journal in the world for political science. And the name of the article is The Missionary
00:18:16.800roots of liberal democracy. And what did Woodbury do? Well, Woodbury took 12 years to do this study
00:18:24.660and he gathered thousands and thousands and thousands of data points across the developing
00:18:33.000world because what he wanted to do was answer the question, why is it that you can have two
00:18:38.560countries next to each other in Africa or next to each other in Oceania, next to each other at any
00:18:44.680part in the developing world, and one country will develop the criteria of liberal democracy,
00:18:52.280education, human rights, economic success, and yet the other one, right next door to it,
00:18:58.960doesn't. And instead it descends into tyranny. Yet the geographical and the populations
00:19:07.460are almost identical, geographically and population-wise are almost identical. How does
00:19:13.000how does this difference happen so 12 years he takes to publish this study gathering all these
00:19:18.920data points and he says oh my goodness here's the difference the key variable the key variable
00:19:26.120driving whether or not there was liberal democracy that is the best the best society you can have
00:19:33.000the goodness of society the key variable did they have believing evangelical protestants
00:19:40.600working with the native population. That was a key variable. It wasn't guns. It wasn't germs.
00:19:47.180It wasn't steel. It was whether or not they had people on fire for Jesus working with the local
00:19:54.300population. Because those people put others before themselves. Because those people established
00:20:01.020voting for the native population. They established hospitals. They established educational
00:20:07.640institutions and that was the key difference and then people attacked woodbury for this
00:20:12.840but time and again when they looked at his data they said oh my gosh this guy's right so i give
00:20:19.560that example and i have many more in the book christ or collapse but that's just one example
00:20:24.320where the empirical evidence shows that you can't get these successes without christianity and i'm
00:20:31.860not the only one who looked at this you can look at tom holland's book dominion you're an american
00:20:36.240You can look at Larry Sedentop. He's from Oxford. His book that says The Inventing of the Individual, that's the title of the book, where he says you wouldn't have human rights without Christianity.
00:20:45.480You could look at Rodney Stark. He was a professor at Baylor University and then Washington University before that.
00:20:50.760And he says that you can attribute all of the success of the West to Christianity.
00:20:54.500You could talk about Harold Berman, who is a Harvard professor who wrote two volumes saying that our legal system, which is the envy of the world, is rooted specifically in Christian doctrine.
00:21:06.240So you can look at all these academics who are saying exactly what I'm saying, and they're coming to the same conclusions.
00:21:12.600So when a leftist comes to me and says, well, where are your receipts?
00:21:15.980I say, well, I've just given you them.
00:31:57.660Yeah, so success is measured by conversion.
00:32:01.420success is measured by by people gravitating to those organizations sure and and so if you were
00:32:10.880overtly preaching the gospel and saying yeah i want you to become a christian not compelled by
00:32:16.260the way right this is not at the sword these are not people being forced at the sword of course
00:32:22.120these are are people who who were starving um both spiritually and sometimes even uh physically
00:32:30.100and they were aided so it is natural that that when someone is being assisted that they will
00:32:38.280look into that particular benefactor they'll say well why are you doing this you see
00:32:43.240people often say well they're just becoming uh christians because they're being fed
00:32:49.940no because the christians will feed you even if you don't convert that's what the the studies
00:32:57.520from the international journal of the red cross showed it you they do not compel come on in
00:33:04.820you can have your food but what happens is the people say why are you being like this
00:33:11.200why are you showing compassion to me even though i'm not part of your tribe and then they begin to
00:33:17.120explain the uniqueness of christianity and the uniqueness of christianity still stands out
00:33:23.520among countries that are not majority Christian, because they say, this is not like we have it
00:33:28.960here. It's a shame that people in Canada and the United States, they have forgotten how unique
00:33:39.000their society is. But slowly they'll remember, because their society is going to be ruined
00:33:45.760unless they reassert the Christian foundation that brought all the thriving that they experience now.
00:33:53.520Yeah. When it comes to secularism, I said this on a stream like a couple of weeks ago, but I was talking about the prosecution of Christians and something to do with probably other religions coming into Canada and kind of pushing their sort of values.0.83
00:34:10.900And I thought they're really, you know, they're really taking advantage of our naive. There's some some degree of naivety of the sort of Christian values we have now.0.96
00:34:21.560And, like, secularism, is it true that, because this is what I said, I'm assuming it's true, because everything I say is true.0.63
00:34:29.000No, but I said, you know, secularism, it comes from Christianity.0.74
00:34:34.860It comes from the Christian, like, you can only find a secular society in a Christian nation.
00:34:40.000Is connecting these two dots, like, correct?0.69
00:34:42.700No, I think that that's a pretty popular theory right now.
00:34:45.800it was definitely promoted by Tom Holland in his book, Dominion. He was saying that we can see
00:34:53.560from the Protestant Reformation, you begin to see the elevation of the individual. And
00:35:01.860we also see a separation of church and state. So Protestantism really does have the seeds of
00:35:08.900these things. Protestantism was a reaction against Catholicism. So Catholicism at the time was very
00:35:17.020much a governmental system. The church was very embedded in the government. So the Protestants
00:35:21.860said, we don't want that. Now, when Protestants say that, by the way, they are saying, we don't
00:35:26.600want the church running the government. But the Protestants admit that every law is pointing in
00:35:35.200one moral direction or another. So, it is completely justified for Christian morality1.00
00:35:40.760to be the impetus or the catalyst for the law. That's fine. But you don't compel people to0.98
00:35:48.640believe, but you can compel right action, and the right action as it is revealed in Christian
00:35:55.200doctrine and the historical record and the empirical evidence all there. So, this idea
00:36:01.940that secularism does generate from Christianity, you could get there, because you could say that
00:36:07.960from Protestantism, you get the idea of the elevation of the individual, and then that
00:36:14.860leads to the Enlightenment. And then the Enlightenment, it actually makes the claim
00:36:20.600that we can have these moral foundations without Christianity. I mean, that really is what the0.94
00:36:29.720Enlightenment starts to do. It tries to say, let's have all the Christian virtues without the0.97
00:36:35.620Christian theology. And I talk about this at length in chapter six. I actually go through the history
00:36:42.440of how we got here. And essentially, even the Enlightenment is reacting against the wars of
00:36:52.580religion so catholics and uh protestants were fighting each other and with good reason they
00:37:00.100say it looks like religion causes a lot of harm and and when religion is being mapped to uh to
00:37:09.380to being the government not influencing government but when religion is the government
00:37:14.040it actually is a bad thing i'm against theocracy and i say so in my book uh but i am not against
00:37:22.300good people of Christian faith influencing the laws based on their doctrine. Because I know that0.83
00:37:28.680when they do, within their doctrine, it says, I must treat even my opponents with the full rights
00:37:34.900of everyone else under the law. I mean, only Christianity does that. So Christianity is this
00:37:39.800fantastic system that we get secularism from. But the problem is when you unmoor it, when you cut
00:37:47.780it away from its theological basis, from its doctrinal basis, secularism begins to forget
00:37:54.220about loving your enemies, about being able to extend to everyone the rights under the law.
00:38:01.960And I'll give you an example from today. So today, or yesterday, there was an article in the CBC,
00:38:08.080on the cbc and uh there is there is um there was a flood in ottawa and the city of ottawa called
00:38:17.840on different aid groups please come and help us we don't have enough people to to take care of
00:38:25.040the damage so a christian aid group called samaritan's purse said we'll come and help
00:38:31.400And they did. And they're doing fantastic work there. Well, we have a city councillor from Ottawa, an LGBT person. And we also have an MPP from Ottawa, a provincial politician, also an LGBT person.
00:38:47.600And they're saying, we want these volunteers who are helping to be banned from our city.0.81
00:38:59.960Why? Because they believe in traditional marriage.
00:39:03.380So picture, and these people would call themselves secularists, right?
00:39:08.780So here we have an example of people explicitly wanting to discriminate against other people, and they justify it in the name of tolerance.
00:41:17.960but then if it's like a Christian it's like1.00
00:41:19.860get the hell out of here we don't like that
00:41:21.240you know it's very and here are christians who were doing incredible work volunteering1.00
00:41:27.980and the cbc in its coverage of this is is so foolish and ignorant they don't even question0.99
00:41:39.780the fact that these these lgbt supporters the the counselor and the mpp they are demanding0.99
00:41:49.780discrimination against Christians, and it doesn't even occur to the CBC reporter to kind of say,
00:41:56.800well, aren't you asking for discrimination here? You're saying that you want Christians banned
00:42:02.580because they're discriminatory, and yet you want to discriminate against them, but you actually0.92
00:42:07.760want to do it. There was no evidence that the Christians were harming anyone. There was no
00:42:12.880evidence that they were not doing a litmus test saying, hey, before I help you, can you tell me
00:42:18.560whether you support traditional marriage or not. There was none of that. They were just helping
00:42:23.320because I helped my neighbor. That's what they were saying. And yet these secularists,
00:42:29.860these progressives, they were determined to exclude and discriminate without evidence,
00:42:37.820just based on the beliefs of these people. There's nothing more bigoted than being discriminatory
00:42:45.220against someone for their internal beliefs not even their actions that is the state of ottawa's
00:42:52.420city council and the mpp that is now sitting there it's incredible now let's let's get into
00:42:58.740the weeds a little bit on this scenario because it's a good segue um the city council said like
00:43:04.820we're going to ban these people like what was the specific thing that was said or done just the one
00:43:09.540So I yeah, I was misrepresenting there. It's the one the one very outspoken LGBT counselor was saying they should be banned.
00:43:21.420Those were her words, according to the CDC. And the MPP for that particular writing of Ottawa, she also said that Samaritan's Purse, the organization and its and its people should not be allowed.
00:43:36.860so they are literally calling for christians to be expelled from their city like
00:43:44.760where are our where are our other political leaders speaking up for the rights of christians
00:43:53.480and and so that kind of brings us nicely to c9 doesn't it we already know yep we already know
00:44:00.480go ahead we well we already know that c9 is going to be another tool to make sure that the rights
00:44:08.880of christians in canada are completely destroyed and and so c9 for those of people who are watching
00:44:19.940probably know but essentially what c9 does is it takes away it removes from the criminal code
00:44:26.860the final protection that Christians had. So under section 319, 3C of the criminal code,
00:44:36.520it said that if you were making an argument based on scripture, then you were protected.
00:44:42.880You couldn't be charged with a hate crime. Well, that has been removed now. And so if a Christian
00:44:49.240were to say, I am against same-sex marriage because I am in favor of God's design for marriage,
00:44:56.860and somebody in the lgbt community gets upset by that and the christian says well i'm just
00:45:03.300quoting my scripture now the police the courts the government can say doesn't matter you're
00:45:10.300not protected anymore and and so we know the hostility that example i just gave you
00:45:16.740from the politician at the municipal and at the provincial level shows the level of hatred they
00:45:25.100have for Christians. They want them banned from their city. Do you think that they're going to
00:45:30.300act in good faith for any Christian who dares to espouse their beliefs in public? And we know they1.00
00:45:36.980won't. And we know that the liberal government is absolutely going to try and punish Christians0.95
00:45:44.700because every time they've passed a new law that has intersected with the biblical stand of
00:45:53.560Christians, they've lied. So in 2005 or 2006, when they passed the same-sex marriage law,
00:46:01.040they said, don't worry. If you are a Christian and you want to uphold your beliefs in traditional
00:46:11.040marriage, you'll never be denied a benefit. Well, then, lo and behold, anyone, well, you could look
00:46:18.580at the trinity western law school case trinity western said we want to build a law school
00:46:22.920and they were denied that benefit by the courts of the supreme court of canada because they were
00:46:30.740told that their beliefs about traditional marriage made society unsafe so remember when the law about
00:46:36.980same-sex marriage passed it was it was specifically said by the liberal government you won't be denied
00:46:42.520a benefit and then the law school uh was for trinity western was denied you could talk about
00:46:48.820the funding that has been denied in 2018 to christians because they would not support a
00:46:57.980homosexual lifestyle it was summer jobs funding the trudeau government uh justin trudeau government
00:47:03.440said we're not going to give you that so every time oh sorry one more c16 that's another lie
00:47:09.600So under C-16, the gender ideology or sorry, gender identity was made part of the criminal code.
00:47:17.280And Judy Wilson-Raybould, who was the liberal minister at the time, said, no, no, no, don't worry.
00:47:22.920You can disagree. You can believe that a man can never become a woman and you won't be punished.
00:47:27.580We'll tell that to Barry Neufeld, who is the school trustee in B.C. who was just fined into bankruptcy to the tune of $750,000 because he had the nerve to espouse his Christian belief that a man can't become a woman.0.70
00:47:44.340so every time a new law comes in from the liberals and it intersects or it butts up against christian
00:47:51.840belief they lie and they say it won't affect the christians and then ultimately christians are
00:47:56.940either fined into bankruptcy or threatened with jail so c9 will be no different yeah yeah uh that's
00:48:06.040i mean terrible news not great news tell is there good news tell us the good news oh man
00:48:12.120and all of this i i shouldn't be i i begin my kids tell me dad stop black pilling but uh but
00:48:20.280i let me say this this is not a black pill greg this is a this is a white pill uh ultimately
00:48:27.080the the norms and values of christianity they do win because they're the only things that
00:48:37.860will hold society together. And they're the only thing that provides maximum freedom
00:48:44.320with maximum common good. So you can have other systems where the society won't fall apart,
00:48:51.880but it's very authoritarian. And you can have another system where there's total freedom,
00:48:57.980but you've got people pooping on the streets, you've got drug addicts in your children's
00:49:01.480playgrounds so ultimately if you want to have a society that is maximum freedom with maximum
00:49:08.340common good there's only one choice and and i prove it in my book i i go into great depths i
00:49:16.160bring the receipts it's almost 600 pages and it proves that it truly is christ or collapse
00:49:23.580thank you so much uh for being on the show and it really sounds like a great resource as well
00:49:29.780It sounds like a great resource of all the different examples of why, you know, Christianity is, dare I use the word, superior in terms of how to operate a, you know, society.0.82
00:49:42.100And I mean, I was kidding before, like, oh, the bad news.0.99
00:50:54.560But in the Whatcott decision, so William Whatcott was charged with hate speech, and his case went all the way to the Supreme Court.
00:51:04.660Now, I mention that because in that case, it was decided that even though he was providing research citations and was truthfully giving the data, the justices of our Supreme Court said that truth is no longer a defense.
00:51:24.560it was more important that he had offended. So back to your question, is the book that I've just
00:51:30.400written and published going to end up seeing me in court? Here's what we do know. Christians don't
00:51:39.220have the same rights as others in Canada any longer. We know now that truth is not a defense.0.99
00:51:45.800We know now because of C9 that you cannot quote scripture if it offends people.
00:51:52.000So on the balance of those criteria, I'd say there's a really good chance that I could face some trouble.
00:52:05.900This is exactly what Christians should expect.1.00
00:52:09.920I am of the belief now, and this is coming out of COVID, of course, that your faith should be expensive.1.00
00:52:19.200and if you're not being persecuted you're probably doing it wrong because there are
00:52:24.760many things in this society that must change and so if if christians are called to be salt
00:52:32.980which is to preserve society and light which is to expose the dirt of society there's so much
00:52:41.120rot and there's so much dirt if you're not being persecuted it means you're not speaking
00:52:46.500so uh i i think there's gonna be a lot of trouble to the extent that christians are actually faithful
00:52:54.120right well thank you so much for coming on the show someone just came into the studio did you
00:53:01.440want to hang around and chat for a little bit are you still good to hang around for a bit david
00:53:05.280uh only to say that we have a hero here on the screen can he hear me at this point um i yes he
00:53:13.800can okay we'll get them on right now uh but just to kind of wrap this up david millard haskell's
00:53:19.120books christ or collapse the case against godless government great to see it love to see it i
00:53:24.680definitely want to pick this book up it's a good resource at the very least and yes who just
00:53:28.480arrived is the one and only arthur pavlowski speed you're you're really giving a great0.79
00:53:33.500introduction talking about you know now we know christians are going to be persecuted
00:53:36.880um but i mean this guy i think 2007 was his first charge we're going to bring on arthur
00:53:42.240provlowski it's going to be a little sloppy let me do the tech here but uh let's bring him on here
00:53:46.260just give us a sec and uh what and just give it a sec here arthur can we hear you how are you hello
00:54:02.160hello hello hey good to see you again can you hear me i can hear you can't david can you hear
00:54:09.140uh arthur i can and and arthur i don't want to uh sort of take away from what you're going to
00:54:16.640be talking about just wanted to say i think this is the first time we've even met virtually
00:54:20.940we've probably been at some similar functions together but uh like many canadians thank you
00:54:26.980for your bravery and as a christian i say thank you very much for showing a model
00:54:32.000that needs to be emulated by far more pastors so with that i'm probably gonna head out greg and
00:54:39.860i'll just let you carry on your conversation thank you so much dave thank you awesome fantastic
00:54:45.560thanks so much for uh for coming on david and uh yeah if hey if you're getting charged we'll be
00:54:52.360there to cover it but um right on bye-bye see ya all right so how are you doing artur
00:54:59.480good good how are you i'm good just gonna do a quick little switcheroo here let's do this
00:55:08.340just gotta do some tech stuff here um oh boy
00:55:15.320you know what one sec we're gonna do it this way one sec one sec one second
00:55:23.860i was hoping to make this transition really smooth didn't happen that didn't happen the
00:55:30.420way i wanted just get stream yard don't worry don't worry we'll do it uh we're gonna do it
00:55:35.900this way it's fine and i think that is all right awesome so um thank you so much for coming on
00:55:45.500short notice arthur pavlowski tomorrow bill c9 comes into effect you've already been charged
00:55:51.680multiple times uh for also including reading the bible um i think it was in 2007 at uh what was it
00:55:59.540tom king's uh park in calgary it was it was actually 2005 believe it or not where the police
00:56:09.300officers by the services communicated with me about all those different laws can you still hear
00:56:18.540me i i i can but uh there's an echo hold on hold on oh boy uh let's get rid of this
00:56:25.900hopefully that's it uh speak now how about now oh there's there's an echo i'm guessing you guys
00:56:33.960can hear that echo um maybe it's here let's get rid of this hopefully that's it all right how
00:56:41.340about now testing one two three four yes okay it's gone thank goodness thank goodness sorry about
00:56:48.140that okay so going back to the timeline it was 2005 where the bylaw services and police officers
00:56:57.500communicated with me and our church that are you ready feeding the poor is actually illegal
00:57:05.420in canada preaching the gospel it's illegal in canada the name of jesus is offensive illegal
00:57:15.260our bibles distribution of our bibles gospel drugs illegal 2005 again i'm talking about 2005
00:57:25.040and congregating also illegal unless you have a special permit from the mayor or the parks
00:57:35.840department or some other bureaucratic departments where they will graciously give you permission
00:57:43.780to do what is protected by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and, of course, our Constitution.
00:57:50.040So, Bill of Rights, 2005-2006, I was arrested by seven police officers for reading the Bible.
00:58:01.720No amplification system to six parishioners, 100 feet away from another human being, to ourselves.
00:58:13.780And the police showed up and said, we are no longer allowed to read the Bible and I have to vacate the park or I will be arrested.
00:58:25.740So ultimately, I quoted, and I guess he took an offense to that, the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the Constitution.
00:58:35.280I told him he is mistaken that I, in fact, have a right to read from the Bible.
00:58:43.400he disagreed and i was arrested and charged criminally he put seven criminal charges on me
00:58:50.520forced me to walk backwards i end up in jail facing i think was six to a year of imprisonment
00:58:57.480for my crime but why am i telling you this because i want to read a quote to you and it's quite
00:59:05.720interesting because i read that quote to my fellow pastors and clergy during that time um
00:59:15.720the case was widely uh covered by the mainstream media at that time the mainstream media was not as
00:59:23.720wicked and evil as they are today but there was actually some fair reporting uh alicia corbella
00:59:31.080covered the story she was from uh calgary sun she was the editor-in-chief she did actually a
00:59:38.120very fair covering and other outlets as well bob rovitz he was from global television he did an
00:59:46.440an amazing story kind of telling my side of the story and telling the city's side of the story
00:59:54.600which is fair that's how reporting was supposed to be all about and people in the middle um you
01:00:03.480know choosing decide choosing who's right who's wrong i mean that's how it used to be if we're
01:00:11.080talking about reporting that's of course is completely gone uh there's no such a thing as
01:00:16.520investigative reporting fair reporting it's all biased it's all left uh those people are losing
01:00:25.480their marbles every single day and i don't know if you heard about the latest news from calgary0.99
01:00:32.520some stations are actually shutting down because no one wants to listen to their crap0.99
01:00:39.080to their garbage to their propaganda because that's what it is in the end of the day you0.99
01:00:43.960cannot rely on the mainstream media because they are just simply propaganda pieces and again you0.85
01:00:50.760gotta remember i grew up under that environment behind the iron curtain so you know you should
01:00:59.080listen or pay attention to a man that grew up under propaganda that is telling you greg mainstream
01:01:06.360media is propaganda okay you should pay attention to people like us but let's go back to the story
01:01:13.800of 2005 and 2006 i remember i had multiple meetings with my colleagues and i was all over
01:01:22.280the news i mean every second evening news i was there and i warned the people here's what i used
01:01:32.280as a quote first they came for the socialists and i did not speak out because i was not a socialist
01:01:39.480Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
01:01:47.480Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.0.96
01:01:53.480Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me.
01:01:57.480Of course, the quote, this famous quote is from a pastor, Martin Niemöller,
01:02:03.480and he was a prominent Lutheran pastor in Germany.
01:02:08.480and in the 20s for the people that not know who this pastor was in the 20s he actually sympathized
01:02:16.880with the nazi ideas and supported the radically right-wing political movements but when adolf
01:02:26.240hitler got power in 1933 he realized how corrupt the system is how wicked hitler is and the of
01:02:37.520course the interference um in the protestants the protestant church um that adolf hitler with his
01:02:45.600nazi party unleashed and you know his story kind of goes on he opposes the nazi regime his stance
01:02:55.200against fascism and other hitler and his dictatorship his tyranny and he spent the last
01:03:02.640eight years of the nazi rule from 1937 to 1945 in the nazi prisons and a concentration comes and0.66
01:03:12.000you know as a kicker for those people that do not know um do you know how many laws so-called laws
01:03:21.280of course include the nazi regime implemented from 1933 so from the moment out of hitler gets his
01:03:31.200power of course he cheated he got it by force he you know he was elected elected selected
01:03:39.200just like our politicians right now to become the chancellor of germany by force he did not allow
01:03:46.760other members of the reichstag to vote because he arrested them i mean it's it's a crazy insane
01:03:54.720story i love to teach that story i did even a series of um of exposes if you will um i'm calling
01:04:04.960them uh let me just put it there um the story uh the law you know the judic the judicial um
01:04:19.840system if you will that has been unleashed on the people and i'm going through all kinds of
01:04:28.820different stories and how he got to power what he did and i mean it's a fascinating fascinating
01:04:35.920history but i think we have not learned anything greg from that history so we are witnessing a
01:04:42.620repeat a repetition in front of our very eyes but for those people that do not know from 1933
01:04:49.600where adolf hitler just took power democratically in quote by arresting his opposition and not
01:04:59.540allowing other members to vote so he got elected okay just like carnage i call him carnage carney
01:05:09.020was selected to destroy to finish the kind of the off you know how many laws were implemented
01:05:16.620enacted the bill c9 types of laws against the jewish people do you know how many well uh normally
01:05:26.700when i ask that question and people do not know the answer they would say 50 100 200 but the truth
01:05:35.940is that from 1933 to 1939 so just six years within the six years window before out of hitler
01:05:45.560attacks poland and makes a you know hell on the rest of the world he implemented over 2 000 laws0.66
01:05:55.740so-called laws against them you know against the jewish people insanity why am i teaching this why0.97
01:06:04.760am i saying about those things because tyrants dictators always operate the same way the mothers
01:06:13.780their modest operandi is always identical they always bring laws bylaws bills to oppress their0.85
01:06:24.080own people to control their own people so when i when we start talking about the bills and the
01:06:30.440bylaws to this day and i share this story greg hundreds of times maybe thousands of times
01:06:37.140already since 2005 probably thousands of times to this day canadians most of them do not know that
01:06:45.140there are actual laws in the books that are penalizing you to feed the poor so if you are
01:06:53.860walking the streets and you see a dying child out of starvation and you have a sandwich and if you
01:07:02.900dare to share that sandwich with the dying child you may end up in prison because if if you're
01:07:11.680white and christian because i'm sure there's plenty of seek organizations that can do this
01:07:15.740and they wouldn't get any trouble at all in fact they would probably be featured on cbc as being
01:07:19.640uh you know a good samaritan and look how helpful you know these uh seeks wearing turbans are you
01:07:26.100know yeah i think the unique thing is that you you're not just feeding the homeless but you're
01:07:31.320also a known, proud, God-fearing Christian who also preaches the gospel and is getting people
01:07:38.040off the streets and kind of making our government institutions look bad in terms of our homeless
01:07:43.720shelters look bad or our soup kitchens look bad because you're doing their job for them just as
01:07:47.500a strong, proud Christian, right? Yeah. And to prove your point, remember the occupied Wall
01:07:54.860street or occupied calgary occupied toronto movement well they would storm city hall literally
01:08:01.820they would move into the city hall into the public property and do their chanting and do their
01:08:07.820whatever they were doing the crazy people and we wanted to test the law and said okay if the
01:08:15.100occupied calgary can do whatever they want to do outside of the chambers in public exercising their
01:08:24.860right let's see if a bunch of christians if we will go over there and just pray let's see what0.99
01:08:31.360happens i mean here you've got wackos that are occupying the public space breaking all kinds of0.81
01:08:39.140laws and let's see if christians will just go there peacefully and pray let's see what happened0.73
01:08:45.920well i i'm sure you can guess what happened we got arrested i got arrested with our parishioners
01:08:53.040and taken in handcuffs outside of the city hall was a big story.
01:08:59.400And of course, we were painted as a lawbreakers and disruptors.
01:09:03.700And again, you got to remember our crime, our crime in quote was prayer.
01:09:09.080And if I would tell you there is actual laws passed by our so-called representatives
01:09:16.300that are stating that if you give a business card so forget about bibles for a second forget about
01:09:26.800gospel trucks if i would tell you that there is a law in the books that if you share your
01:09:35.160information your business card your pamphlet whatever you have about your business or about
01:09:41.720whatever with another human being in public you just broke the law you would say aren't you crazy
01:09:48.760i don't believe you uh and and that's the problem with canadians you're telling them0.99
01:09:54.600the law you're telling them what those people are passing how crazy insane psychopathic those
01:10:02.120aldermans those mayors those premiers members of legislative assembly or members of parliament
01:10:11.400are, most people would choose not to believe it. And recently,
01:10:18.840because of the Bill C9, I have been approached by a number of
01:10:23.080pastors and different civil rights organizations and people
01:10:27.880were contacting me and sending me stuff like I didn't know what's
01:10:31.760going on. And they said, aren't you concerned that this is
01:10:36.160passing. It's like, no, I'm actually not concerned at this
01:10:41.660moment, because I have been already arrested. I have been
01:10:46.880already charged over 360 times by our wonderful government. I
01:10:54.760was forced to go to over 120 court cases. I have been
01:11:01.280imprisoned by this system. I have been tortured by this system. I have been kept in metal cages
01:11:11.160by this system. I was found guilty of terrorism for giving people message of hope where I said
01:11:21.360to the Canadians, peaceful, no guns, no swords, keeping the peace and telling them that God is
01:11:29.180bigger than the wannabe forest i was charged with terrorism under some crazy law interfering with
01:11:37.420the crucial infrastructure under the defense defense you know law and i was found guilty by
01:11:46.220this crooked judge gordon crinkey and convicted he told me he can send me to prison for 12 and a
01:11:54.700half years for telling people to stay peacefully and to give them a message of hope so my answer
01:12:03.100to the clergy and the pastors greg and then i'll give you the floor is i they have already damaged
01:12:10.820me they have already penalized me so many times that my lawyers don't remember i was already
01:12:17.680arrested my brother they went after my family the church they lit my house on fire they unscrewed
01:12:24.540tires in our pickup truck trying to assassinate me and my children my wife i had antifa in my
01:12:32.000property they vandalized our church for months and months they lit our church on fire and i don't
01:12:40.340know if you know greg but our ex prime minister the son of the castro just was dancing with his
01:12:49.620girlfriend um at a music a song burn down the churches i don't know if you heard about this
01:12:58.440that just came out yesterday prime minister justin trudeau castro was dancing to the tunes0.90
01:13:07.640and the words of a song burn down the churches let's just burn down all the churches and
01:13:15.840that's not inciting hatred according to our government that's perfectly fine because he is
01:13:22.600on that are you ready on the right side of politics if you're on the right side of politics
01:13:29.100you can get away pretty much with anything you want and again if you don't believe me0.57
01:13:34.640look what black lives matter did during covid i was arrested i was charged they went after my0.85
01:13:43.880family my brother was arrested 13 times our kid was detained over 20 times and black lives matter
01:13:51.640had 5000 people marching through the streets no social distancing most of them were not wearing0.75
01:13:57.640a muzzle and the police officers took the knee in homage to those crazy psychopathic individuals so
01:14:06.120So, one law for me, one law for thee, that's the system we have right now in Canada, you can have a dagger with you and that's your religious right and you can walk with a sword literally anywhere you want, but if you have a Bible in the wrong place, if you quote the Bible in the wrong place,0.57
01:14:33.420If God forbids you offend some psycho out there, you can be criminally charged.
01:14:42.220Right now, you can be charged criminally for offending the feelings of the pedophiles and the groomers of children.
01:14:52.620And again, if you don't believe me, talk to Pastor Derek Reimer.
01:14:58.140He was arrested and imprisoned because he dared to expose the pedophilia and the grooming of the children in public libraries, the grooming sessions, adults playing dress up with children and toddlers is paid by taxpayers money.
01:15:24.300And Derek Reimer dared to say peacefully, peacefully, not even yelling and screaming like Art Polosky, peacefully, that this is wrong.
01:24:51.380But the Bible is very clear that when you preach the truth,
01:25:01.3802 Timothy 3.12, 2 Timothy 3.12 to 13, it says,
01:25:07.320Indeed, all who desire, all, that means, you know what that means?
01:25:11.740That means all who desire to live godly lives in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.
01:25:18.680So my question to my colleagues and other Christians would be,
01:25:23.360if you have not been persecuted, why not?
01:25:27.040If you never faced a backlash, a persecution, an authority at your door, perhaps it is because you have not become a threat to the kingdom of Satan.0.99
01:25:39.780In other words, he looks at you, Greg, and says, I'm not going to waste my resources on this guy because he is a coward.
01:25:47.660So I already got him where I want him.0.99
01:27:18.920like david said uh there is a price attached to preaching the truth actually i would go
01:27:25.720further i would say to you that if cost the father the life of his son and it costs the
01:27:32.280son his own blood his own life you really think that it's not going to cost you anything i would
01:27:38.040say to you greg it will cost you everything to be a follower of christ so in summary if you have
01:27:46.040I love I love this. I'm still like a newer Christian. Actually, Archer baptized me. But this is the one concept that I love to kind of continue to meditate and reflect on this whole. You have to, you know, crucify your own flesh. You have to crucify your own life. You have to like kind of give up on your own like will, you know, to start living by God's will. And that's only when you're like your actual like potential fulfillment can really start.
01:28:10.300um but i but i did want to uh say another thing that you could probably play off of
01:28:16.320david before you showed up he talked about how you know certain theologians said that uh you
01:28:23.200got to be a slave you're going to be a slave to something you should be a slave for god you know
01:28:28.060you should be a slave to his uh for to his will and to his kind of what he wants for you um yeah
01:28:34.900But that's actually a wrong interpretation, and it's a very bad theology.
01:28:41.300Apostle Paul writes, and he says about being a bond servant.
01:28:46.980So when you come, Greg, to Jesus, when you come to God, you come as a slave.
01:28:58.140But when you come to Jesus, it's very clear.
01:29:00.720he says who comes to me is free indeed when you come to jesus he sets you free so every day
01:29:09.140you come back to god and the one thing the first thing he does is setting you free so you're not
01:29:16.560replacing one slave master with another slave master that's completely wrong theology because
01:29:25.660the word of god the truth will set you free jesus says i no longer call you my servants
01:29:33.580that's that jesus's words i no longer call you my servants i call you my friends we are friends of
01:29:43.420god we're family of god and you know i got three children as you know and uh it's an impossible
01:29:51.740thing impossible if you truly love your children it's an impossibility to turn your children into
01:30:01.020slaves because everything i do is to support them and to make their lives better for them to succeed
01:30:10.940for them to accomplish achieve more than i ever could and the same with father which is in heaven
01:30:18.380when he looks at you greg he's not seeing you as another slave that is to serve him he sees you as
01:30:28.220a son and every father if it's a true father with the true love sets their children free so if you
01:30:38.140have financial difficulties the father will come to your aid if you have healing problems health
01:30:43.900problems if you got um you know house problems whatever car problems a good father comes to the
01:30:51.580aid of his children in other words a real father with a real love sets you free so we're no longer
01:31:00.140slaves we are no longer servants we can serve god like i'm serving people at the table when i have
01:31:07.340visitors coming for dinner i serve them but i'm not their servant i do serve them but i'm no i'm
01:31:15.020not their silver servant i'm their brother i'm their family member i'm their friend so i wanted
01:31:23.340to clarify this that when you come to jesus he sets you free and you're free indeed that's the
01:31:29.260word of god yeah yeah and you you bring up a good point and and i think that maybe when he was using
01:31:35.980the term slave it was more kind of like to make it a broad general thing so people can kind of
01:31:42.520understand like you said the difference between uh you know serving and servant it is pretty close
01:31:47.620in a lot of people's minds but it is important to clarify that because it's not you know it
01:31:52.000wouldn't be there you're it's right it wouldn't be the true definition of a slave to god it would
01:31:56.100be much more of uh being obedient to um to you know what he wants um but uh let's talk a little
01:32:04.200bit about because you keep up bringing uh you bring up world war ii a couple times world war
01:32:08.340ii the process the persecution prosecution of uh jews and christians but as you mentioned you
01:32:14.400brought up timothy to timothy three to twelve you know anybody who lives who wants to live a godly
01:32:20.580life will be uh persecuted um and it goes back way further than just uh you know world war ii
01:32:28.320right uh it's a much more kind of intense uh ongoing thing um a lot of people i think fail
01:32:35.760to kind of see that we're living through history right now and isn't it funny that you've predicted
01:32:42.720all these things you were right but people still think you're crazy isn't that annoying but well
01:32:50.400you know greg it can be um but you know i have this friend he is in a business
01:32:57.520for his life and i remember i attended one of his speaking you know conferences and i'll never
01:33:04.800forget it hit me it kind of opened my eyes he said when you lead so when you're in a position
01:33:13.440of any leadership it doesn't matter where you turn your behind is always exposed
01:33:20.400So when you're leading, you're vulnerable, you're vulnerable, they will be gossiping about you, they will be slandering you, they will be lying, they will be attacking you, they will try to discourage you.
01:33:34.880Ultimately, Satan will try to force you to quit.
01:33:39.720So you have become a threat to his kingdom.
01:33:42.460So he's doing everything and he's using, unfortunately, he's using people to attack you.
01:33:48.840And they have their own agendas and they have their own reasonings why they're doing this to you.
01:33:55.620But ultimately, a house divided cannot succeed, cannot stand.
01:34:02.060And I would say to you that Satan is a very clever opponent and he knows the game of divide and conquer.
01:34:11.620And we're seeing this in a MAGA movement right now.
01:34:14.140We're seeing this in a freedom movement in Alberta.
01:34:17.120i mean everyone is at each other's throat and the people that should be in united against the0.73
01:34:24.000globalist demons psychopaths that want us dead and our children dead uh what do we do we criticize0.93
01:34:31.120each other we attack each other we go after each other uh why because we think or we see things a0.99
01:34:37.440little bit differently than others um you know i i say that quite often greg i am disagree with my
01:34:45.760wife from time to time about certain things but that doesn't mean i hate him her or i disagree
01:34:52.480with my father or with my brother or with my children there will come a time where we will
01:34:58.720see things a little bit differently but that's not a moment in our lives to destroy each other
01:35:06.400this is the moment to show true love and there is this verse in the bible which which i absolutely
01:35:13.120love that a true love a real love love covers multitudes of sins so what that means is that
01:35:24.000my love should be stronger should be bigger than your shortcomings when i truly love you i will
01:35:32.640see your shortcomings and they will not be that big of a deal because i will cover your shortcomings
01:35:40.560with my love i'll talk to you i'll educate you i will come alongside of you i will try everything
01:35:48.400to assist you so you can become better but i don't see that in christianity right now what i see is
01:35:55.920everyone is tearing each other apart and they are doing it publicly i mean look what is happening
01:36:02.640within the freedom convoy movement even in alberta the leadership is at each other's throat
01:36:10.080i'm not going to name names but this person is talking wicked things about this person then this
01:36:16.320person retaliates and does videos about that person and it's a never-ending craziness and
01:36:23.520that's exactly what satan wants because in the end of the day there's this famous saying greg
01:36:30.400islam doesn't care where you go to church they don't they don't care if you're a catholic they0.57
01:36:39.760They don't care if you're Protestant.0.94
01:36:41.560They don't care if you're Baptist or Lutheran, Pentecostal.
01:38:36.320When it comes to, like, let's not be divisive, how do we square this circle with the Conservative Party of Canada and characters like Danielle Smith and Pierre Polyev?
01:38:46.480You know, I want to bring up another verse, which is we need to, Matthew 10, 16.
01:38:50.560behold i send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves be ye therefore wise as serpents
01:38:56.520and harmless as doves we need to be smart here and a friend of mine said this years ago but i
01:39:02.840think it's continually true which is everything in canadian politics is controlled so much of it
01:39:09.760is controlled we don't know it's i don't like to feed conspiracy theories but you know a lot of the
01:39:15.340time people even among us who are pretending to be these freedom fighters might be an operative
01:39:19.820from a political party might be you know working for this agenda or that agenda and so we do have
01:39:25.120to be discerning when kind of navigating these waters uh to make sure that we can actually put
01:39:30.720up an opposition to what's happening in parliament as i'm sure you would agree i really don't think
01:39:36.580polyev and some of these establishment conservatives are doing a good job at any of that
01:39:40.740i mean really were were they standing up for you were they standing up for christians
01:39:45.940like you you don't see it they're still afraid to say anything of any consequence
01:39:50.140and so yeah in terms of drawing a line and being divisive with fake conservatives like i'm sorry
01:39:56.080i'm definitely going to be drawing that line and you know trying to push people to step over it
01:40:01.300yeah that's that's not what i was talking about i was talking about among the family and friends
01:40:07.300let's not divide but if you are seeing a clear enemy of moral standards or the truth so for
01:40:16.200example why i went heavy on daniel smith or on pierre polyeth because he goes out of his way
01:40:25.760and publicly states that his government is going to keep slaughtering babies and he did it publicly
01:40:33.120So when I hear as a man of God, as a pastor, as a Christian, when I hear you or anybody else saying, yeah, elect me and I promise you I'll keep slaughtering children.
02:04:28.160You cannot go and do certain things, even preach the truth, unless God gives you the boldness and the courage.
02:04:36.700And that's why my book is called Lions Do Not Bow.
02:04:40.480because you have to realize first of all you have to realize who you are in god how mighty is your
02:04:47.280god how amazing is your god do you even know who is your god he's the alpha and omega is the
02:04:53.040beginning and end and also you must know who you are in god you're the son of the living god you're
02:04:58.080a daughter of the almighty creator of heavens and the earth so when you understand that concept
02:05:04.080apostle writes and he says what man then can do to me in the end of the day okay they're going to
02:05:11.760kill you and the bible says are you going to have an extra perks in heaven because you died as a
02:05:19.880martyr i um i want to get we should start getting into the direction of wrapping it up um but i i0.97
02:05:27.660wanted to ask something that's been on my mind i've tweeted about it and it's really kind of
02:05:32.700bothering me uh when it comes to specifically c9 and how it was passed and who supported it and who
02:05:39.680did not support it and this might get personally i think this is an uncomfortable topic especially as
02:05:44.840uh you know a christian person and um you know the term judeo-christian value gets uh thrown
02:05:53.080around a lot but when it comes to the different religious groups if we summarize it you have
02:05:58.920christians jews and muslims those are kind of the three most popular religions when it comes to c9
02:06:04.800which the which the you know politician said this is going to criminalize parts of the bible that
02:06:10.120part was not quiet that part was out loud but the major groups who opposed it it was mostly christian
02:06:16.460groups and it was mostly muslim groups unfortunately there was the biggest jewish0.61
02:06:24.240groups the biggest jewish lobbies in the country were supporting bill c9 and you know i don't want
02:06:30.360this to become like a biblical thing of like who did the jews kill christ and all we don't have to
02:06:35.380go we don't have to go into all that but um you know when you see something like this i have the
02:06:39.800thing right here uh you know joint statement by five jewish organizations b'nei breath um obviously
02:06:46.640sieja and a few others it's quite frankly they are the largest jewish lobbies in the country
02:06:50.860they supported criminalizing the bible like what what comes to mind when when uh when you see this
02:06:59.400um arthur well the same thing is people are people politics plays a big part i mean
02:07:07.920conservative governments right under harper which as you know i have been invited to his
02:07:15.500barbecues every year and i was able to chat and you know see things um from the inside
02:07:25.440it was actually not the liberal government that brought trouble to our country it was stephen
02:07:33.080harper uh you know we have to understand he was flip-flopping politician he was not really
02:07:39.740conservative. And it was Stephen Harper that brought WEF to Canada. So out of all the politicians
02:07:48.500that we had, and you know, you can look at Justin Trudeau, Castro, and you can look at the carnage0.76
02:07:54.140and, you know, Carney and all those psychopaths. And you can say, well, they're wicked people,0.98
02:08:00.140they're liberals. But hey, hold your horses. It was not the liberals that signed us into the WEF0.98
02:08:06.300that unleashed hell on us during covid era it was actually pierre polyeth that signed us into the
02:08:12.620paria court so if you're um complaining about the carbon tax that is wiping canadian middle class
02:08:19.900left and right and creates poverty left and right uh it was not the liberal government liberal
02:08:28.060liberal government is just finishing us off it was the conservative government it was pierre
02:08:32.780polyeth that signed the paria court for the conservative government so we have to understand
02:08:40.380that those just because they say something just because you say i'm a christian it means nothing
02:08:46.460to me nothing i mean it's it's just a title i don't care what you say people say all kinds of
02:08:53.980crazy things i mean if you don't believe me look at our politicians today they will say one thing
02:08:59.580tomorrow they will see completely say completely different thing it means nothing words mean nothing
02:09:06.140anymore is your actions are you truly a christian show me your life show me what you stand for
02:09:15.580what you're pushing every day what's on your heart are you willing to do the right thing
02:09:21.740are you a conservative okay show me by the way you vote but what you do that you are a conservative
02:09:30.300and of course what i observed in the past 20 years that the conservatives are not even near
02:09:38.700conservatism they're liberal as liberal you can be there's nothing conservative about conservative
02:09:47.500party anymore they are not even fiscally they used to be fiscally conservative no longer if
02:09:54.460you really look at the statistics it was the conservative government that blew up more billions
02:10:00.620of dollars than the ndp and i know that's a shocker but that's that that's the truth a conservative
02:10:09.020government blew up more billions wasted more billions of dollars in the province of alberta
02:10:15.580than the ndp which uh of course they're throwing money left and right like crazy so we have fallen0.68
02:10:26.540off the rail long time ago and the same with christianity the same with judaism just because
02:10:32.300you say you're a jew uh what that even means it means nothing to me unless you show it to me by0.58
02:10:40.220your fruits are you standing for torah are you willing to pay the price for torah are you teaching0.83
02:10:46.940what torah is teaching and are you living by the torah if you're not you're fake you're not a real0.97
02:10:55.100child of the living god you're a child of the devil and the same with christians the same with0.72
02:11:01.180with all religions by the fruits you shall know them if your fruits are rotten if you want to1.00
02:11:07.180to blow up people and chop their heads off you're a psycho you're a wicked son of the devil not the1.00
02:11:14.600son of god you're a son of the devil you're a terrorist yeah i you know it's i think i've1.00
02:11:22.660gravitated towards becoming christian out of sheer desperation because day after day especially1.00
02:11:28.820during covid you know you have the whole george floyd madness there's like race wars starting0.98
02:11:33.660seemingly and then it's we're coming after the unvaccinated and there's just more you just you0.68
02:11:38.140try to watch these politicians without throwing up and it's like hey these people just seem so0.86
02:11:43.840pure evil and um that's what that's why i've gravitated towards christ having some faith in
02:11:49.900these principalities of good and evil because clearly evil is thriving right now and i just
02:11:54.600think of leading up to c9 we have over a hundred churches burning to the ground and they talk about
02:12:01.220how this bill is going to protect religious groups by the way by the way we are going to0.96
02:12:07.140criminalize verses in the bible and that's hate speech and we're going to throw christians in
02:12:10.560jail if you read this part and it's like including our church remember our church was lit on fire
02:12:16.220as well and our children's bus was burned to the ground
02:12:20.860yet all the christians who are saying hey we're being hated upon we're the ones who are actually
02:12:29.320victims to this we don't want this bill by the way and just completely kind of dismissed certain
02:12:35.300religious groups got what they wanted you know the religion the jewish lobby got what they wanted
02:12:40.300with bill c9 and uh the muslims and the christians complaining about it the christians who have had0.76
02:12:45.040over a hundred places of worship burnt to the ground i don't know how we're measuring who's0.98
02:12:48.640the most hated but uh that certainly seems uh it just seems very evil it's like very like all these
02:12:55.720all these omens of where where things are going and it's uh you know if more people don't go back
02:13:00.760to the to the church and get back to christ i don't really know uh how this is going to shake
02:13:04.920out how do you think this is going to shake it's lost we're completely finished uh canada is done
02:13:11.480it's it's you can't fix this greg without god you cannot fix even economy forget about morale
02:13:20.360standards you can't fix our economy we're so far into a point of no return without a supernatural
02:13:31.060so of course there is hope if canadian society would turn back to god i truly believe that god
02:13:38.080the moment he steps in he brings supernatural and things can start going the right direction
02:13:44.920And I just don't see Greg, Canadians desiring God, actually quite opposite.
02:13:50.400It looks like they hate him even more and more and more.0.76
02:13:54.800It's like they're bent on destruction, Greg.0.99
02:14:01.040It's like they're on the path of self elimination, especially the white people.0.82
02:14:07.560They don't want to have children, the 55% divorce rate.0.97
02:14:12.120they hate themselves for being white i don't get it i don't understand we're in a big trouble
02:14:17.880because we walked away from god so the way i see everything playing i believe that the economy is0.77
02:14:25.480going to collapse i believe a lot of canadians are going to lose their properties they're going to
02:14:31.160lose their money and i think out of the ashes we can start rebuilding i think that's how it's going
02:14:39.720going to play the politicians are not capable even of fixing our problem
02:14:44.760because they're playing for the globalists they are working for the
02:14:49.320foreign entities so how how can they fix it something that they have no desire
02:14:55.800of fixing they are breaking everything they are touching and then Canadians0.71
02:15:02.160they don't want good politicians that's the problem Greg they don't want good
02:15:09.060people in power they actually hate good people the good people are constantly
02:15:15.180under attack by the even even the freedom movement here the separatists
02:15:21.240and you know referendum people here they they kill each other they fight
02:15:28.740each other like crazy they they don't want God to be in the middle they want
02:15:34.320to fix this politically and look look scandal after scandal uh flop after flop i don't want to
02:15:42.720even bring the latest but it's it's a disaster and i remember and i was highly criticized i actually
02:15:50.000i lost people in the church for it because i said from the very beginning because god told us this
02:15:55.360is going nowhere there is not going to be a separation you will not get your independence
02:16:01.440because you're fighting the forces that are so much stronger than alberta the only person that
02:16:10.320can bring sanity and strength to the movement is god but they don't really want god they want
02:16:18.560lawyers and they want business people and politicians um no you're too you're too weak
02:16:25.680you know i um we've had a lot of success so far with uh with the dominion society of canada
02:16:35.880which is a group that supports canadian nationalism and it's promoting remigration
02:16:40.660the reversal of immigration but i bring it up because we are bringing together like we're
02:16:47.060organizing people we're starting these kind of different communities of people different chapters
02:16:51.200across the country and i know it's working because a lot of people are trying to call us
02:16:55.760racist and we're getting this kind of like mainstream kind of um attention defending
02:17:01.280monuments defending the chamuel de champlain monuments like defending the very kind of like
02:17:05.980historical facts which are true about this country and we're just simply defending it stating the
02:17:11.560facts and it's upsetting a lot of people and i guess you're over in alberta is there any type
02:17:15.960of organizing over there that you think is promising yes you said it's all going to smolder
02:17:20.180into ashes we'll see how it shakes out but is there any organizing over there in alberta that
02:17:24.300you think is promising and that you think people should be paying attention to
02:17:28.020uh no or is it just street search on sunday where you feed the homeless then there's also the uh
02:17:36.260you you do your uh your sermoning uh on saturdays well i'm also remember i'm also a leader of
02:17:43.980solidarity movement of alberta and um that's why i'm saying no because the last time we were running
02:17:52.860we were running against the very people that locked us like animals and destroyed our lives
02:17:57.980businesses and killed so many people the conservative government in alberta so when we
02:18:04.940i think we had 54 or 60 candidates and when i started to hear people in different communities
02:18:13.020opposing us i realized i think in the first time in a long time that there's no fixing it at this
02:18:22.460moment because people so you've got wicked evil tyrants that destroyed you and your family
02:18:34.620but you are more afraid of bigger tyrants therefore in your own mind in your heart
02:18:42.520you're willing to settle for the lesser of two evils and that's what was being told
02:18:48.880to me over and over again art we love what you stand for we love what you're offering freedom
02:18:57.120and economy and this and that however if we don't vote for the lesser of two evils in other words
02:19:03.900Yeah, like, yeah, like a Stockholm syndrome that they are so attached to the abusers that they do not see a way out of it. They must keep voting for the abusers, the rapists to be here because bigger rapists, bigger abusers will come and finish them off. And of course, it's a lie. It's a political big fat lie, you know, splitting the white votes and all that stuff.
02:19:33.760I've heard it all. Because Greg, if every good person, and I'm
02:19:40.700going kind of back to you, saying we must draw a line
02:19:45.520somewhere. So I'm kind of going back to that notion. When enough
02:19:52.180good people will have enough of this flip flopping, lying and
02:19:57.400settling for evil, just a little bit lesser of the two evils. If
02:20:01.860good people will start voting for good candidates eventually eventually maybe
02:20:06.480not the first time but eventually we would have good people in power
02:20:13.440eventually right because because we have to understand that every political party
02:20:18.780starts the same way so five people sipping a coffee in the living room
02:20:24.720saying I hate what those people are doing let's do something about it and
02:20:29.580then it's 50 people then it's 5 000 people then it's a hundred thousand people and then you win
02:20:34.440election it takes time it takes sometimes years but you got to start somewhere but here's my
02:20:40.780problem that's why i told you i don't see any way out of this at this moment because i do not see
02:20:49.920the electorate willing to vote for good candidates i just don't see that and even now we're heading
02:20:58.500into election next year again i see the same rhetorics or we have to vote for conservatives
02:21:04.980if we will not vote for the conservatives again again they're not conservatives so why you keep
02:21:11.380repeating this lie they're not conservatives the liberals different color but liberal nevertheless
02:21:18.180so you know that this is the problem this is why i believe this whole thing has to crumble
02:21:25.860because out of pain greg out of difficulties people start looking for real solutions because
02:21:32.900they will realize what we are saying for the past 20 some years that this is not working
02:21:41.060the two-party system and is no longer working we have to have new players new outsiders brand new
02:21:51.860with new visions new energy not tinted by globalists not tinted by bribery not tinted by0.59
02:21:59.700blackmail pedophilia you know homosexual uh rainbow lobby not tinted by okay okay that's0.71
02:22:07.940enough about jason kenny that's enough about jason kenny and jason kenny is coming out of the0.95
02:22:13.060woodwork again and he is uh portraying himself as a conservative champion can you believe it
02:22:22.980it's crazy jason kenny's calling us racist at dominion society and he's like oh well i really
02:22:27.780care about immigration it's like you're actually guilty of uh well like you're kind of abusing our
02:22:32.980immigration system anyway i don't want to get off on on uh jason kenny but i i do want to say one
02:22:38.300last thing which is um you know i think the hyper fixation on like the next election and the
02:22:44.160political parties i've been i've been doing this for a little while and i feel like it's it's almost
02:22:48.840like that's not the right place to focus like it's almost like we need to kind of create a
02:22:55.300cultural movement around specific issues which we will not compromise on because when you talk
02:23:01.580about these different issues there's a lot of like for dominion society we're focusing on
02:23:05.080immigration i think that's why we're getting so popular we're focusing on that one issue
02:23:08.660immigration upholding canadian history and identity and like a lot of people are coming
02:23:13.020to into the fold and then we're putting pressure on the different political people different
02:23:17.160political uh you know politicians and i'm i'm wondering i know there's a lot of different
02:23:21.840christian like movements and groups and i'm like what if it kind of collectivized more about having
02:23:27.240kind of a united sort of these are the few things like you know men and women and this and that or
02:23:33.080whatever it might be um but like creating something that's outside of the political
02:23:38.500parties and then just simply starts to change the culture create videos you know like like do events
02:23:43.780and and really kind of get the culture moving in that direction because then these slimy politicians
02:23:49.700they'll actually try to pander to to you know if it's enough votes right because we've seen every
02:23:56.280single politician put on a turban ah but do but do but like you know start speaking in uh some
02:24:01.180foreign language to try and get those votes and it's like we got to start deploying the same thing0.98
02:24:05.900um yeah as you know as christians they're they're professional prostitutes they're called1.00
02:24:11.100you know high-end call girls those those politicians they're they're prostitutes that's1.00
02:24:16.220that's what they are you're making me think of a good uh a good like sketch where you're like you're0.69
02:24:23.260you're looking through uh you know different call girls but it's actually oh these are different
02:24:27.020politicians oh okay oh wow daniel that's pretty cheap actually that's not bad um yeah i mean
02:24:33.180well depends um there is this rumor going allegedly about um the the little rabbit that she brought
02:24:44.140from um from south uh south arabia i think it was uh made of gold that no one knows where it is so
02:24:54.620i don't know worth millions of dollars so not not really cheap but anyway going back going back to
02:25:00.300the story what you just said i 100 agree i mean charlie kirk are the students and that's why he
02:25:08.540was going to universities he was going to colleges because he wanted to change the culture culture0.98
02:25:15.260eventually will change the politics because politicians are cowards politicians are prostitutes0.99
02:25:21.260most of them politicians are willing to go to bed with every monkey that votes so when the culture0.99
02:25:27.180is good then the politicians will be better right now for the past 30 40 years canadians are not
02:25:35.660raising the bar for the politicians to be elected they're actually lowering the bar i mean now
02:25:41.500literally every monkey can win election if you're corrupt enough if they got goods on you if you
02:25:49.420you get enough money you can win election not on merit but on your bed schedule if you got enough
02:25:59.820time in 24 hours to go to bed with as many organizations as possible you will be elected so
02:26:07.660uh a culture culture must be changed but but look at the difficulty we have right now
02:26:13.420we're not allowed in universities we're deplatformed censored we have a very hard time
02:26:19.820to communicate the truth with the youth because that's what the tyrants want they want propaganda
02:26:27.260and they want indoctrination and um so it's very difficult to fight them but again god is bigger
02:26:34.940if enough christians will come together then uh then we will win and and as you know we're suing
02:26:41.260those demons we're going after them i've launched the biggest lawsuit in the history of this country
02:26:47.900we're going after attorney general prison city hall chief of police calgary police rcmp customs
02:26:55.900officers you know city of calgary because we believe that we will be able to uncover
02:27:04.300what really happened to the canadian people right civil litigation has this power to
02:27:10.060move the stones and to look under the stones and discover we already got dumped with 300 000
02:27:16.300documents and i can tell you greg already we have some absolutely juicy stuff for the canadians to
02:27:25.100hear officer conversations crazy your hair would stand up if i would be able to tell you what we
02:27:32.860have uncovered and this is just the beginning but that's why they're fighting us to the death they're
02:27:38.140opposing us they want to destroy me financially uh they they don't want me to have ability to raise
02:27:45.100the funds um it's just it's a war we are in the middle of war good versus evil absolutely and i'm
02:27:54.780gonna play a clip from our interview that we had for my upcoming documentary we go over a lot of
02:28:00.860stuff in that interview i'll be posting the full length documentary at some point or sorry the full
02:28:05.740length interview at some point but uh before we go i thought it would be funny because i was
02:28:10.520checking your your your twitter feed and i saw this video of you getting thrown in a cop car
02:28:15.520and i'm like i haven't actually seen this one so could could you explain the uh the context of of
02:28:22.620this year when you're getting thrown in the cop car it looks like in the winter you got people
02:28:26.000with muzzles on in the back you're trying to record it here yeah so uh we got arrested me
02:28:31.440and my brother david for attending a peaceful rally i was asked to attend the rally because0.54
02:28:38.480there were some individuals that were thinking of going on a private property and intimidating
02:28:45.200the family and so they called me some people called me says come art keep the peace so that's
02:28:50.960why i came i came to keep the peace i came to stop those crazy people maybe they were government
02:28:59.280operatives of entering private property and for that i was criminally charged for attending a
02:29:08.480rally taken to jail my brother david was arrested as well and and uh but but that's the system they
02:29:15.680will pile things up on you they will make stuff up they will look for anything uh to hurt you
02:29:23.680the system greg works this way if we want to hurt greg let's do one thing and on top of that one
02:29:33.200thing let's pile a 20 30 other things as well so we will overwhelm greg with all this craziness
02:29:43.520technicalities courts submissions lawyers interviews you name it and greg is going to
02:29:53.120feel like oh my god i don't stand a chance against this 20 30 charges and the crown prosecutor will
02:30:01.520come to you and they did it twice they came twice to me and they said we will withdraw every charge
02:30:08.960except one if you say you're sorry that's the game the game is uh is rigged there are professional
02:30:16.080liars like stephen johnston and mad a lot of it's the the judges like adam germain gordon crinkey0.60
02:30:23.520david gates adam uh john rook the crook as i call him those are professional liars but they have0.98
02:30:30.560officers they're crime prosecutors and the judges and they think they're above the law they can we0.82
02:30:37.120caught crime prosecutor stephen johnson on multiple lies multiple lies greg and he's still working
02:30:47.120he lies to the judges and he's still a crime prosecutor unshaken unmoved yeah not under
02:30:55.280investigation they can lie they can cheat they can manipulate and unfortunately the system protects
02:31:03.120them yeah and you you just touched upon i think why c9 and bills like it are most chilling the
02:31:12.780piling on of the charges in c9 there's a motivated by hate charge which you can stack it's literally
02:31:20.700designed to be stacked on to another existing charge i don't even know if this has even existed
02:31:27.080in in our criminal code before but it's it's a law that's designed to just be stacked on top of
02:31:33.800another law to say well also the mischief of that protest or that was actually motivated by hatred
02:31:40.280as well so let's add on some extra time and another charge and like you said overwhelming
02:31:45.420this person who uh you know are are they actually a criminal or are they just a dissident are they
02:31:51.240just someone who has the wrong opinion and that's why they're being uh you know piled on with all
02:31:55.580these bs charges so yeah and look at england look at ireland uh you've got tens of thousands of
02:32:02.200people already being charged with hate motivated uh crimes for tweeting for um putting stuff on
02:32:10.220facebook um truth that is truth and it's a public place posting something on twitter having a video
02:32:17.580on the internet that is a public place so all that stuff could be subject to uh you know c9
02:32:23.420charges i mean you can greg you can go to prison in great britain if you say remove illegal rapists
02:32:34.620out of our country you can go to prison for that yeah i was talking to a nationalist uh from
02:32:40.860germany and he said that even saying criminal migrant even like putting those two words together
02:32:46.700is like it could be a crime because it's like something it's unfair it's offensive to people
02:32:51.100and uh that's again like this is why c9 is so chilling it's the beginning of crossing that
02:32:57.540rubicon crossing that threshold of like okay my offended feelings we can actually turn that into
02:33:03.980criminal charges now because that's usually how how this whole thing happens and then maybe a
02:33:09.560quick note on that because i've been asking my guests different dissidents uh before c9 comes
02:33:14.920into effect you know ultimately when it comes to some of these insane charges specifically for
02:33:21.640speech calling a criminal it always comes down to someone who's upset someone who's crying0.73
02:33:28.040it's a homosexual it's a transgender who thinks0.90
02:33:32.480pastor art it him his opinion is actually physically hurting me and the only way to keep0.96
02:33:41.840me safe is to lock him behind bars or something uh do you like summarize this phenomena how do
02:33:49.220you summarize this phenomena of like insulating this person's feelings well it's not about
02:33:54.920feelings of a transgender or homosexual it's about tyranny of the government don't kid yourself0.53
02:34:03.180they are using the homosexuals they're using the transgender they're using the colors uh you know1.00
02:34:10.280divide and conquer they're using the natives to divide and conquer it's all a game because a0.99
02:34:16.680nation that is divided it's a nation that is very easy to be controlled you can control a divided0.95
02:34:25.080family you can control a divided city you see that that's the number one thing if comes to warfare
02:34:32.520divide them that's what they're doing they don't care about your feelings don't kid yourself they
02:34:38.760don't care they want control and this just gives them control under communism behind the iron
02:34:47.720curtain you know the politicians there the communists didn't care about communism and socialism
02:34:56.760i'm telling you they didn't care they were part of the system that was giving them perks it was
02:35:02.920giving them bonuses it was giving them power and control that's what they care and and nothing is0.94
02:35:10.920new right now they don't kid yourself that you will have few zealots psychopathic crazy people0.82
02:35:16.920they're communists and socialists or fascists but majority of the politicians they just want power0.79
02:35:23.480and control and money that's all they don't care about anything else they care about keeping their
02:35:30.760power intact and of course money and uh all those different perks that they get uh that's why you've
02:35:38.840got politicians flip-flopping all the time yeah that's the proof to my theory of uh uh you know
02:35:47.160high-end colgar because they don't care they care about the client you as long as you pay
02:35:56.920but then an hour later is another client and they're going to say the same thing to that other
02:36:03.160client i love you i care for you it's so awesome you're the best and then our from that client
02:36:12.040there will be a different person and they will say exactly the same thing to those people they are
02:36:18.120flip-flopping high-end cargers those politicians they have no backbone they have no moral standards
02:36:27.000they're wicked many of them are actually evil people doing this for all the wrong
02:36:33.160motives but in a flip side when you do bring a good man as someone that wants to fix the problem
02:36:41.720what do people do you're splitting the votes you're um you're jeopardizing you know our
02:36:49.260province because now the ndp is going to win and and i yelled and i screamed i said they're all the0.91
02:36:54.920same why can't you see this ndp communists and socialists crazy people conservatives that are0.99
02:37:30.020They just want to keep doing the same thing
02:37:32.020that has been destroying them from the very beginning you know that reminds me1.00
02:37:36.880of this video that I saw and Canadians are like that unfortunately of a snake1.00
02:37:43.520that eats its own tail that's Canadians that's kind of the right now they are1.00
02:37:50.380eating their own tail well for a while you will succeed for a while you will0.91
02:37:58.420feel satisfied but you will choke on your own tail it's just a matter of time yeah uh i'm i'm just
02:38:07.340admiring this video here this is your this is your brother it looks like with that beard he
02:38:12.920just looks like you from like several years earlier but um this is uh you guys talking
02:38:18.720about the update on the lawsuit make sure you guys are following archer paulowski on twitter
02:38:22.860if you're not already is there anything that you wanted to promote and talk about before we go
02:38:26.580Yeah, well, you know, get the book, the most hated book in the country that remember was confiscated by the Canadian government three times. So if the Canadian government confiscates your manuscript, that means every Canadian should read it out of curiosity. So Amazon.com, please get it. We don't get much from the book, but every dollar counts. And if you can, please support our fight. I mean, lawyers are hundreds of thousands of dollars.
02:38:56.580literally hundreds of thousands of dollars this fight we got two legal teams criminal and civil
02:39:04.860rights lawyers and we are fighting for the liberty you know liberties of canadians not
02:39:12.440just for ourselves and if you have a desire to support go to archer paulowski.ca or where do
02:39:19.300they go no no it's street church.ca street www street church.ca you can go to legal fight over
02:39:29.460there uh there are all kinds of ways that you can donate and support and uh and please do if you can
02:39:36.760i always say to the people uh one man cannot do it one family cannot do it one church cannot do it
02:39:42.480But if we come together and everyone, you know, can chip in a little bit, if you do, it's easier on us.
02:39:50.100And it's like my lawyers say, you make sure we have fuel in the engine because those fights are pricey and we don't want to run out of funds because that's exactly what those tyrants want.
02:40:05.840They want you not being able to fight them.
02:40:09.620And when that comes and happens, you're finished, you're done.
02:40:13.820Then they will be able to do whatever they want to you.
02:41:54.260You can't listen to these people saying split the vote.
02:41:56.460I'm telling you, Archer, there's a lot of serpents among us.
02:41:59.980OK, we have to be very discerning of these people in because it's not just conservative party people who can be snakes and call girls.
02:42:07.340I'm sure there's other people among us who are whispering in this year or that year, trying to poison the well, trying to like, you know, snuff us out in the crib, you know, trying to kill the grassroots movement before it can even sprout up and start to grow.
02:42:22.580But I'm sure we'll have continued conversations about that.
02:42:25.420thank you so much for being on the show and you know i think needless to say canadians got to dig
02:42:31.660deep we got to dig deep this is a historical moment with c9 coming into effect in my opinion
02:42:36.640this is the major crack a major um lapse in free speech in canada and we'll see what happens next
02:42:45.700we'll see what happens next needless to say we will be watching and we will be fighting for you
02:42:51.080you already have so many core things going on
02:42:54.220hopefully we're not adding too much to the pile
02:43:20.840the rest is just a formality we have already won the enemy just doesn't know
02:43:24.980it yet so be lions don't bow and I'm telling you it's a journey it's an
02:43:33.660adventure and we will see face to face the judge of judges one day and every
02:43:41.120man will receive what's due to them so enjoy the right and receive the crown of
02:43:48.420life with all the things that he has prepared for you in a kingdom that is coming so be blessed
02:43:55.580absolutely thank you so much archer brevlowski um and i will play the clip from the upcoming
02:44:03.140documentary if you do want to support that i'm going to try to use this documentary to push
02:44:06.920back against bill c34 coming this fall so if you want to help with that you can go to give
02:44:12.020go.com slash save free speech. And I'll, instead of doing the outro, I will do, uh, the clip from
02:44:18.740Archer Pawlowski from, uh, from the documentary. In 2006, my first arrest, you know, the crime I
02:44:29.260committed seven criminal charges. I read the Bible publicly to six of my parishioners,
02:44:35.460no amplification Tom King's Park in the city of Calgary police showed up told me to stop reading
02:44:42.420the Bible I told them no like why well some people look at you and we were like hundreds of feet away
02:44:51.820from people and they find this offensive that you're reading the Bible to your people I said
02:44:56.100I don't care they can find it offensive that's my right I'm not using amplification I'm not
02:45:01.840disturbing peace. I'm not doing anything. I'm just reading the Psalms to my parishioners and I will continue doing this. Then you will be arrested. I said fine. So he arrested me. And I was charged with seven criminal charges including resisting arrest. Thank God my brother was recording it because I would be still in prison.