Brave Momma Bear of two will NOT comply!
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In this episode, I sit down with Erica and Carter to talk about the Women's March on Washington and why they chose to not vaccinate their kids. We talk about what it's like raising kids in a world where vaccines are required to be given in public schools, and how they deal with it.
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All right I am here with Erica. Who do you have in your hands here today?
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My kids Emily and Carter three and four years old. Why did you think it was important to come
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out to this to this Women's March today? Because I'm the only one who parents my child obviously
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with my husband but definitely not with the government. We're not going to be vaccinating
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the kids we're not going to be doing any of the mandates that they're requiring. We're because of
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this we've pulled them out of public school so we found a wonderful private school to have them in
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as well just so none of this will affect them. They don't have any mandates there.
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It's been a crazy three years. Were you into politics much before this?
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That's what's so funny. Not really and now definitely am. Yeah and I think it's really
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interesting that you know as the pandemic as lockdown happened I feel like people who have
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a real matriarchal instinct and patriarchal instinct really started to kind of take action and started
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to like you know get engaged right? Yeah absolutely. I didn't follow really much of anything before
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but it's sad how political this is when it shouldn't be. No. No not about our kids. Yeah yeah
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actually I was talking to a young university student and I really love how he framed it because
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he said I don't really care if people are apolitical but this is the government overreaching on our
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fundamental rights and that's kind of morally wrong to not say anything about that right? Absolutely
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and same with anything I find speaking with friends or family you don't even want to talk about it
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because it becomes political. Yeah. Everything now because they've infiltrated everything every
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aspect of our lives and that's again why we don't have our kids in public school. Do you watch the
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news in this country? Did you watch the news in the country? Not too much to begin with and now not at
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all. I definitely seek out independence. Did you see the the trucker convoy happen last year? What
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were your thoughts and feelings around that? Oh we were there and my little guy his sign said when I
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grow up I want to be a trucker. Yeah and then my husband I had stayed home with the kids but my
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husband went down to Ottawa. Yeah it was fantastic. Over the past three years like what is the one
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thing that you really never want to have to experience again whether it's like a social
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division thing or a mandate thing that you had to confront? Yeah just having my kids locked out
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of things that they want to do that was definitely the toughest part. My husband and I were very
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fortunate we didn't lose any friends or family throughout all of this they understood.
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Not everyone's so lucky. No I know that's why I'm very fortunate but when my daughter couldn't
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go to dance when she couldn't go to a preschool but then that just kind of pulled us and I found
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independent pod preschools for her and met fantastic people along the way. And these independent pod
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preschools were these things that already existed or were they kind of growing as these kind of
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mandates came in? The ones I found started once this came because it was just a group of parents
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that needed to find somewhere because their kids still wanted to play and learn. So we found that
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but the school that I have my daughter and my little guy's not in school yet it just started up but
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someone had this dream for a while having without the mandates it's all about the love for the kids.
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If there was a politician watching or like a public official like what message would you have for
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them? If you had like Justin Trudeau in front of you for example like what would you want to say then?
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Let's not say him. I don't know. There's too much and it wouldn't be good.
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Just to kind of stay out of our everyday lives and not trying to co-parent with the kids and
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especially today it's all about the kids. Have you experienced a lot of social division over
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the past three years and currently and how do you deal with that? My good group of friends
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they're all vaccinated. They love what I'm standing up for but they just can't believe it. Even when
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some of them they agreed with the trucker convoy were a little bit vocal at that point online and
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I'm going to say the hate that they received they were literally like I don't know how you have been
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standing up for the last two years. Like it is exhausting but they don't understand how deeply I stand
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with this truth. Like even last year we were supposed to go on our first family vacation. Couldn't leave
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the country. Had to cancel it and one of my best friends was like really you're not going to go get
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the vaccine so you can go on this trip? Like have you not been listening to me for the last two years?
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Like no and it's not just about putting that in my body. It's about showing my kids to this is
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something that I don't want to do and I'm not going to do it just for to go do something right or to go
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somewhere. Absolutely not. It doesn't make sense to you you know it's like not something that you
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feel comfortable doing it's bodily autonomy it's really really simple. I've known two three people
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that have from it and others injured so it's been it's been a really tough two years and two are within
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one week. 46 years old and 54. Well a heart attack that you could chalk it up to and another neurological
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issue that started right after that you could chalk it up to. Absolutely. Of course that's where it's
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not so black and white right but. I didn't have heart damage before my jab either so. I know a few
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people here tonight have the sign of Sean Hartman and that was my nephew's friend from Beaton Ontario
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so there's been a lot. What would you say to to the people who who don't understand your perspective
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like like how do you try to wake these people up have you given up on them or like you know
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not not given up I just felt like I've just been doing so much talk like some of them just don't
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get it even a friend just two nights ago I'm like how do you feel now that I hope you know that you've
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been so lied to like about the even the efficacy of the scene she's like well I don't know I don't
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really think I've been lied to it's just they didn't know then you know it's just they just
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find ways to justify right just like anybody who does bizarre they just find a way to justify it
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and I think that's what they're doing they've just lived like this for three years being told this
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again and again that they're not going back I don't know. I made a tweet the other day that I kind
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of stand by and not so much the people like your friend who are justifying it and saying oh I don't
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know they got it wrong they got it wrong but the people who are like anti-convoy or like super pro
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mandate super pro mask I think that these people have become like the most like the ignorant and
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hateful like these are the ignorant and hateful people. Absolutely same with even at rallies last
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winter and people drive by in the car like yelling F you like go home stuff like this and I was just
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like I love you and it made them more angry yeah it was wild to see and we were just there singing
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oh Canada having an amazing time making amazing human connections they were alone in their car and
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angry. Visceral hostility it's like where does this anger come from and the other thing is like you
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are so ignorant of the facts you know like you don't even know what's going on here. Absolutely
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I just hope slowly that more people will just start waking up to the truth that's going on
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same with even even me coming like to the education system like I I knew I didn't really want my kids
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apart but now I've fully woken up to that whole slew of problems as well so I'm hoping it just takes one
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or two things and people just a domino effect can keep waking more people up to what's going on and
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especially the whole movement with the grassroots education system that's coming like I think it's
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gone up since 2013 53 percent higher demand for it and the problem is I've sent I've signed so many
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petitions last winter trying to get like a tax credit because that's the barrier people can't afford
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these schools like they're anywhere from 11,000 to 18,000 for kind of like a basic pod some of them
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to go to so I mean a lot of families can't afford that and then you're still paying your tax dollars
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to the public education. Exactly so I'm kind of paying double so if families could get a tax credit
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back then people could afford this alternative education but of course the government's not going
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to let that happen we all know that. Is there any inspiring things you see on the political front
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in terms of solutions and things in terms of things changing? I don't know that's the thing I'm not
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going to put all my faith in a politician like they're going to come and save me it's what the people do
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not the politicians they can say what they want yeah some of them say some great things but it's going
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to be the people coming together that will make a difference that's what I believe. Thanks so much for your
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time. Awesome thank you so much for watching guys make sure you like share subscribe and if you really
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