House Arrest - Ep. 19 Tom Marazzo - Emergency Preparedness

00:00:00.000 hello everybody welcome to house arrest with chris and tamara i feel like i've been gone forever

00:00:26.400 yeah we kind of held the show together though decently but we missed you of course you did

00:00:33.060 i had absolutely no doubts great shows um really great shows that michelle that michelle of wharton

00:00:40.500 what a that was a story i was impressed with that yeah i uh yeah listening to her uh her story and

00:00:49.000 being able to tell that story was was was needed and i'd encourage everybody to go back and listen

00:00:54.660 the last week's episode if you can well that was that turned out really well let me mute my phone

00:00:59.300 here i thought i did that problem no problem how was your house arrest last couple weeks you were

00:01:05.620 a busy girl i was a busy girl we were all over alberta which was really really nice for me

00:01:11.940 obviously because i honestly i feel like i've been an eastern canadian for the last four years so

00:01:17.060 to be able to go around you know my home province finally and it's it was it's been really nice it

00:01:22.100 it's been really busy but really nice we're just going to get started next week on the second book

00:01:27.020 so that's also going to keep me busy and yeah so it's good nice got no complaints i think i'm

00:01:33.240 busier on house arrest than i was before we were sentenced honestly i feel it i feel that i woke

00:01:39.220 up this morning to half-assed blizzard this morning and at home here and i got i ran extra

00:01:43.580 late last night to get home and i was getting on a little this morning but i thought just because

00:01:47.920 the four inches of snow or whatever was coming we uh we rushed last night and yesterday we got the

00:01:53.040 load of sand delivered to a customer in home here and put the truck in the shop last night late and

00:01:59.520 i really been in the house working on home improvements and a little bit of project here

00:02:03.760 and there and and yeah my construction fingers are on today so we're working with lumber all

00:02:08.560 day i expect my hands to be dried right out and it's been kind of good no doubt well it's still

00:02:14.640 snowing here it's been snowing here all day like it wet heavy heavy heavy snow i watched the system

00:02:24.400 sorry go ahead i was watching the system on the radar all day and i thought it's gonna miss us

00:02:29.200 so uh we kind of got it and then it kind of hit south of where the farm is here and and it's

00:02:34.480 bright and decent though right now but eastern saskatchewan's a mess right now and highway number

00:02:40.240 one and highway number four around surf current were closed this morning so wow it was the most

00:02:44.640 day just tinker inside get some projects done and i will leave on uh taking off on saturday morning

00:02:52.640 and i'm gonna run down to kansas for a forage harvester for a customer of mine so saturday

00:02:58.560 sunday be loading on monday and then working my way home should be a should be a decent run hopefully

00:03:04.320 good good well i'm just actually working on getting some dates together to go cover some

00:03:08.880 more of the stay free alberta events and some of the saskatchewan prosperity events in saskatchewan

00:03:14.480 those are those are turning out really really well they're getting really great turnouts even

00:03:18.480 in these tiny little towns in saskatchewan so it's going to be interesting to see how how that grows

00:03:23.520 out there but they're busy all these guys are really really busy yep yeah there's two organizations

00:03:29.520 in saskatchewan right now prairie rising out of uh regina troy and stephanie and there's also

00:03:34.880 saskatchewan prosperity brad williams he's running around the province right now and they're doing

00:03:38.800 speaking i encourage everybody to go ask the questions and just become informed on what your

00:03:42.880 rights are as a is a canadian citizen and if you're happy with the direction of the country right now

00:03:47.440 and i think after you know the ndp leader the ndp personnel crossed the floor a few days ago

00:03:52.640 giving the the liberals just another step are they at a majority now is that true

00:03:58.720 well they're only two seats away from a majority but they've called a by-election in three

00:04:02.720 ridings out east and two of them are basically a sure thing so i you know this is uh he's stealing

00:04:08.400 he's stealing a majority government is what he's doing and it's pretty unsettling you know it is

00:04:14.720 it's almost overwhelming i don't know about you but i find it almost overwhelming to even go on

00:04:19.060 social media anymore because every day it's just like there's more and more craziness between all

00:04:25.080 these censorship bills that they're trying to ramp through the house um the floor crossers you know

00:04:30.280 all these decisions that are unilaterally being made without consulting canadians or asking what

00:04:35.400 they think i mean it's it is sometimes almost overwhelming that i just want to shut my phone

00:04:41.000 off and not look at it for days well i think i speak for both of us and a lot of people when i

00:04:46.520 say in february 2022 we've seen this whole country come together and kind of surround themselves

00:04:51.800 around the flag but in the last number of years i've also seen we've been run through the mill by

00:04:59.080 ottawa tamara and i and others and it's disgusting and the behavior out of the east especially ottawa

00:05:06.840 and i'm not saying eastern canada is any different than western but we feel alienated out here we

00:05:11.320 feel like our voices are not being heard by ottawa and even though we vote the way we want

00:05:16.680 our voices are silenced by you know downtown toronto and downtown montreal and and it's just

00:05:23.160 a different mentality where there's different alignments between you know the prairies and

00:05:29.160 major cities in this in this province or country and we feel like we don't have a voice and we're

00:05:34.440 frustrated and we're angry and we want we want options and right now we don't have many options

00:05:40.440 so we're seeking those options so just uh see where it goes and stand up well i agree and you

00:05:47.800 know i think i don't know if you watch travis don raj's testimony um on the standing committee

00:05:52.440 for Canadian Heritage the other day, I was watching it because I was covering it for work.

00:05:57.520 So imagine my surprise when all of a sudden the Freedom Convoy and my name came up in that.

00:06:02.320 And first of all, you know, I was shocked. I was shocked just at, well, I wasn't shocked. I mean,

00:06:07.900 it's disappointing, David Cochran's attitude, but it's not shocking. I think we all know how

00:06:12.300 they feel about this. But, you know, it's indicative of a larger problem of elitism,

00:06:18.060 where they think, you know, David Crockett clearly thinks if you live in a trailer or a mobile home

00:06:22.840 that you are invaluable and should be dismissed and shouldn't have a voice.

00:06:28.640 And they're doing the same thing to Travis Dunraj right now.

00:06:33.220 You know, if you saw social media today, they're trying to cancel him.

00:06:36.420 They're trying to smear him.

00:06:38.680 It's the same playbook over and over again that they've done to us

00:06:42.740 and so many other Canadians that are really just trying to shed light on some serious problems that

00:06:48.640 we have in this country. It just shows just how ignorant some of these people in higher positions

00:06:54.220 within the media in this country or government are towards working class Canadians. And who gives a

00:07:00.040 crap where you live? You can live in a tent. And a lot of Canadians are living in a tent right now

00:07:04.720 because of the economy right now in this country. But whether you live in a trailer or a house or

00:07:10.040 mentioned there shouldn't be that stereotype put out there especially by what an ass i i watch

00:07:16.900 rosemary barton every now and then because i want to see what they're saying in the slander and what

00:07:20.520 direction this country is going because of what the media is doing but i watch it for pure

00:07:25.380 education i guess to see where where the left is going in this country so they sure as heck don't

00:07:31.860 talk conservative it's all liberal talking points government well and exactly and as you know travis

00:07:38.240 testified there's actually gatekeeping happening there where conservative voices are not even

00:07:43.060 allowed. He wasn't even allowed to phone some conservatives to ask if he could come on their

00:07:47.940 show. So, you know, especially because we're paying for that. Canadians are paying for the

00:07:54.000 CBC, then we should have a fair and balanced. Now, the CBC has always been left-leaning.

00:07:58.540 And I lived in rural Saskatchewan growing up in some places where the CBC was the only

00:08:03.080 station that we had all we could watch was the cdc and even back then it was fairly left-leaning

00:08:08.900 but they still at least you know still gave conservatives a voice and still tried to try

00:08:13.080 to at least have the appearance of being fair and balanced i mean they've thrown that completely

00:08:17.700 right out the window they don't even care anymore and what's ironic is that here are the very two

00:08:22.820 people that are again funded by the taxpayers that sit in front of their audiences day in and day out

00:08:28.880 and speak at them not with them they speak at them they lecture them on um being tolerant on

00:08:35.400 being inclusive on not bullying and and the fact of the matter is is that they're the ones that

00:08:41.260 are guilty of doing behaving like that more than anyone 100 as i said the similarities you know

00:08:49.300 and i hate to keep bringing this up but 1930s germany and canada right now where the government

00:08:54.400 owns the propaganda which is the media and they feed that narrative into the households of everyone

00:08:58.560 and and they do that because the government pays cbc and they control the narrative

00:09:06.160 i'm sorry but if you don't know your history you're bound to repeat it and i would say we're

00:09:11.120 close to that right now yeah i think so too it's very concerning anyways like i said it's almost

00:09:16.560 overwhelming some days where i just don't even want to open up my phone um i i think i've got

00:09:23.760 all of my internet glitches sorted out i'm really hoping i do um i think i've got my microphone

00:09:29.600 problem sorted out so um hopefully the audience can let me know if i'm coming through more clearly

00:09:35.200 i've got some different setups here so hopefully that doesn't let's just have a quick peek who's

00:09:39.680 joining us i saw somebody in here from quebec bonjour bienvenue where's everybody at one thing

00:09:47.120 i want to bring up um zippy and i are part of the spca or local spca fundraiser for jail and bail

00:09:54.240 how fitting is it that i'm under house arrest right now and i am now taking part in a fundraiser

00:09:58.080 for jail and bail for our local spca i encourage everybody to go help out uh s what the heck is the

00:10:04.560 email on it let me figure that out here right now and i can uh i can give all the links on it

00:10:09.280 should have had that all set up before but yeah we should you know what i can maybe send that to

00:10:14.320 tasha and she can post it in the back because the picture is really cute with zippy and his bell

00:10:18.540 aclava hang on zippy yes we have uh so if anybody can go to spcaswiftcurrent.com slash events um

00:10:29.120 there's a barcode here that'll take you right there zippy has posted bail today so thank you

00:10:33.880 very much everyone he could re-offend though i don't know so i don't know if you can see that

00:10:38.940 i don't know if you can see that or not but he did make his bail today

00:10:41.960 that's one of our groomers right that every time she cut his hair she'd take a photo of him like

00:10:48.540 that i've got him in a in a bath like a bath cap plastic things i've got him as a burglar i've got

00:10:54.700 him you know on a sunny beach um driving a car you name it zippy has been he wasn't very happy

00:11:00.620 this week i left him at home because i didn't want to miss my appointment for his grooming

00:11:03.540 appointment he was getting pretty shaggy so oh gosh he got taken in yesterday and when i showed

00:11:08.720 up last night at 11 o'clock he was pretty excited to see me when i opened the door almost mad at me

00:11:12.720 because i'd left him at home but well bella's going to get groomed this saturday too finally

00:11:19.440 she hasn't been groomed since we started and me neither as you can see i'm running out of ways to

00:11:23.360 you know creatively hide my roots so i just don't have any hair left we're both going to get groomed

00:11:28.880 this weekend so i've got some necessities of lifetime which i'm actually going to take this

00:11:33.280 weekend so i don't mean to look at my phone but i'm going to send some of the stuff into tasha

00:11:38.880 right now so she can uh yeah do that yeah get it up it's really cute and the swift current spca jail

00:11:45.680 and bail has been going on for as long as i can remember like ever since i was a little kid so

00:11:50.000 that's i think that's a great fundraiser and especially something that's so close to your heart

00:11:55.120 i mean you're such a huge supporter of the spca it's such a great fit chris there is a dog in the

00:12:00.480 SBCA in Swift County right now. His name is Chase and he's a Husky and if somebody doesn't go get

00:12:05.180 this damn dog from the SBCA, I'm gonna have three big dogs in my breezeway here and I only have two

00:12:10.020 pillows. I was working in my sunroom today trying to put flooring in it. I've got Charlie laid out

00:12:15.220 in one part of there and Zeke's on one of the chairs and Zip's on another chair and I'm stepping

00:12:20.360 over dogs so I don't know if I have room for another one but please somebody go get Chase.

00:12:24.100 He's gorgeous. I think somebody's got him on a test drive right now so I'm hoping things work

00:12:28.920 go for him he's been there for a little while and i can't stand that yeah they deserve families

00:12:35.720 they deserve families for sure so okay well i don't know yeah did you get that sent off

00:12:43.400 no i'm just forwarding it off right now so let's see hello from your neighbors to the south fargo

00:12:49.880 north dakota welcome gene thank you so much for joining us from north dakota we love our american

00:12:54.800 friends and natives you know it's amazing i'm trucking the amount of people that that are

00:13:01.360 waving and honking when i'm trucking in the u.s is uh i gotta run down to kansas for this load on

00:13:06.280 monday and so i the trailer manufacturing we get our stuff from is in marysville kansas and

00:13:11.240 i found one of my sales guys down there and he said make sure you tell me when you're coming i

00:13:15.560 got some guys down here that follow everything you do and they want to see big red he's pretty

00:13:20.200 excited so we'll make that stop on monday morning fantastic yeah oh blind river wow that was one of

00:13:28.120 our favorite stops chris remember that blind river never forget that that was it's the so

00:13:35.640 in the nw right yeah they had like all the def set up out front and when she was a crowd like

00:13:43.800 sandwiches box like lunches everywhere it was blind river was definitely all of our stops were

00:13:49.560 good but i'll never definitely never forget that one that was there were so many amazing stops

00:13:55.960 uh knowing zippy he will re-offend absolutely that's a nice gift maker that that dog you know

00:14:02.520 when when we when when she stopped yesterday to drop him off at the grooming appointment

00:14:06.840 he looked out the window and realized where he was and he started shaking and so rail rail got

00:14:13.480 out and tried to grab him he ran in the back seat and then she went to the back door he ran in the

00:14:17.320 front seat and they did that back she said she had three doors open on the suv trying to get him

00:14:21.720 out of there and wherever she went he ran the other way trying to stay away from her finally

00:14:25.800 he just gave up a little turkey he's got an attitude eh like he likes what he likes that dog

00:14:32.680 yes very much um i just got a question here from baba susie yes david is on medical leave apparently

00:14:39.080 he went on medical leave two weeks ago probably knowing full well that this testimony and this

00:14:43.480 hearing was coming out um yes welcome everyone reading thank you truckers by donna lafombois

00:14:55.080 yes um actually we did have burn buchard on already i think we've got a couple people from

00:14:59.480 her book on but there's definitely tons more we could have for sure we will make that happen nancy

00:15:06.680 and we're looking for if you have an idea of somebody that should be on um just send an email

00:15:13.500 to tamara's email again oh yes our email is 18 house dot arrest oh sorry tasha 18 house dot

00:15:24.660 arrest at gmail.com and you can actually send your recommendations for guests any ideas that

00:15:29.320 you have for the show comments hate mail any whatever whatever you want go ahead 18host.arrest.com

00:15:37.560 or at gmail.com one of my favorite okay well one of my favorite pastimes going through facebook

00:15:43.300 messenger is go to the request segment you know part and the amount of hate that you get that

00:15:49.500 people just randomly take time out of their day to tell you you know the worst things ever and i

00:15:54.760 always reply with nicely did your mother not hug you enough as a child no kidding no kidding

00:16:04.400 all right well you know we've had him on the show many many times he's he sits in regularly as as a

00:16:11.940 special co-host of ours he's a good our good friend and um i was gone for a few weeks and i

00:16:16.920 thought well what a great way to come back and to invite tom marazzo to come on to the show and

00:16:20.420 actually we can talk about tom arazzo he's been quite busy since the freedom convoy pardon me

00:16:26.260 he took a run um in politics shortly after the convoy he's wrote three books and he is working

00:16:33.620 on teaching people how to be um emergency preparedness so it is my great pleasure to

00:16:40.420 bring tom on and welcome to the show as our guest tom not a co-host yeah no this is this is great i

00:16:46.980 oh what's going on here i got all this fancy stuff on my screen okay yeah no thanks thanks

00:16:53.460 for bringing me back on it's always a pleasure to come in in rap and talk about uh the crazy

00:16:58.100 things in canada uh batshit bonkers canada doesn't rhyme but i think it it's very fitting very fitting

00:17:06.020 yeah so yeah it is yeah it's been busy it's been really busy i uh you were just down in the states

00:17:16.580 yeah i've been to uh i was in washington dc last week uh last monday and tuesday for a bga it's the

00:17:26.420 government blockchain association conference at jonathan by my my boss took me on the work

00:17:32.500 trip with him uh that's the second time i've been in dc and uh about a month ago we were in new york

00:17:38.660 city um i got flown out with um christine van gein we were talking about the emergencies act

00:17:47.700 and the um the appeals that came out so there was a group of americans in new york city that

00:17:54.100 actually wanted to hear from from canada or from canadians that participated in this and

00:18:00.020 see what was going on so i was happy to do that and uh yeah i mean it was it was great i mean it

00:18:05.380 was an awesome experience to go to new york city i can tell you my personality does not suit

00:18:12.260 um time square it does not suit time square i was i was good in central park

00:18:17.940 um where i could decompress but time square that's a different beast altogether did you have a chance

00:18:23.700 to visit the uh the trade center memorial that is something on my book i did yeah we we went in

00:18:30.020 uh i wrote an article about it in my sub stack um not what people would expect in that uh but yeah i

00:18:38.180 yeah i i had to go it was a place that i had to go and see for myself um you know and obviously

00:18:45.620 as soon as you get there it brings you back to the day to the actual 9 11. and then as you're there

00:18:50.820 and you're thinking about that day it it brings you to everything in our lives that have happened

00:18:56.820 since you know and and i i did not and i i'm very clear about this i did not go to afghanistan or

00:19:03.700 iraq um lots of reasons why i i tried but i didn't in the end i'm glad i didn't to be perfectly

00:19:12.180 honest i um i never hurt anybody and nobody hurt me uh and i'm not a psychological casualty from

00:19:20.100 from a war right so um from that point of view it's a very positive thing that i didn't go

00:19:25.380 But I will say, I think if I did, my mood and demeanor around being a Canadian citizen would be a lot more dark than sometimes it already is as a result of what this government has done to the citizens of Canada.

00:19:43.540 And I can only imagine how veterans who fought risked their lives for this country, how they're feeling right now, living through the liberal decade of darkness.

00:19:55.380 another one you know so i i think i'd be i i'd probably be a psychological casualty if i actually

00:20:02.660 had to defend this country with you know risk my life risk orphaning my kids uh just to be treated

00:20:10.500 like we're treated here in canada so there's a lot of veterans that feel that you know that feel

00:20:16.420 that way that feel dismissed once again they feel angry um yeah i i text with one regularly from bc

00:20:24.420 um he's a good friend of mine that i met in powell river actually a veteran and he's just disgusted

00:20:28.580 like he just texted me the other day and he said i can't believe i fought i fought for this country

00:20:33.700 and i was willing to die for this country you know it's a sad state it is it really is a sad state um

00:20:42.180 i like i get i joined the army when i was 16 years old because i was technically in my 17th year

00:20:49.540 back in 1990 and so i joined the reserves and you know i finished high school and i went through

00:20:55.940 college i was in the reserves and then you know i finally re-enrolled uh or i i didn't have a break

00:21:03.700 in service i enrolled into the regular force so you know on a friday you're a reservist on a monday

00:21:09.300 you're a regular force guy and so i joined the regular force in 98 and i finally retired because

00:21:16.500 of an injury in uh 2015. so they i went out medically from the military but even at that

00:21:24.660 time i mean i i was done i was done with the politics and and i can only imagine how they're

00:21:30.020 feeling now um you know i i left i retired and not long after they started to relax the dress codes

00:21:37.940 and you know letting letting guys grow beards and longer hair and i earrings yeah yeah i i

00:21:46.660 absolutely disagree with that i think that is fundamentally wrong and counter to what you know

00:21:53.460 being in a uniform actually stands for and what it means um so yeah i i don't think i could have

00:21:59.620 tolerated the uh the current mindset of the canadian military i don't yeah yeah and i mean

00:22:10.220 let's be honest i mean if you're russia or you're iran or you're one of these uh countries right

00:22:17.340 now that doesn't really like canada and our troops start showing up on your border first

00:22:22.440 thing i would do is i would parachute a whole bunch of tampons over the canadian position

00:22:28.200 you want to know why i know that sounds funny but i'll tell you why

00:22:31.880 because the maintenance of morale is a principle of war 100 when you when you demoralize your

00:22:39.560 soldiers when you embarrass them because your leadership has already embarrassed you

00:22:44.520 it doesn't make you an effective fighting force that will go that extra mile i mean you'll do it

00:22:49.480 for your buddies you know for your your fellow soldiers but at some point you're not you're not

00:22:56.040 really doing it for for the country or for the government and i don't think anyone ever does it

00:23:00.600 for the government that's for sure right right exactly well i mean that's a huge sorry go ahead

00:23:07.640 chris i was just going to say in normandy i walked those like the canadian cemetery in normandy and

00:23:13.880 you just you have a feeling there you're you're looking at gravestones for 17 18 year old kids

00:23:20.040 that left to fight a war in a foreign country and they never came home and if you can't have emotion

00:23:25.720 when you walk through that cemetery it was so powerful and you can't help but feeling you know

00:23:31.020 today's conflicts i would like to think are different in nature um there's a different

00:23:37.260 battle and i don't know what are your thoughts tom yeah you know what i um i worked with at some

00:23:45.120 point throughout my career i worked with 13 people that got killed in afghanistan and what happens is

00:23:51.820 at at 2 p.m ontario time uh when a soldier is killed overseas uh they're they're repatriated

00:24:00.700 back to canada in the typically land at 2 p.m ontario time at cfb trenton so when the the wheels

00:24:08.540 touch down everybody across the canadian military is standing at attention uh for the two minutes

00:24:16.300 while that soldier is being repatriated back to canada and you know i've i've participated

00:24:22.380 in a bunch of the funerals um you know it's it's a difficult thing i mean i even in in training

00:24:30.380 i've had uh you know a soldier of mine was killed uh she was a young 21 year old female

00:24:37.980 she weighed about 100 pounds and you know she was involved in a lav3 uh rollover so an armored

00:24:44.380 vehicle rollover uh on top of a 98 pound uh you know soldier you know and i she had worked for

00:24:52.940 me for almost a year uh we did a shuffle of the squadrons and we were in the field training and

00:24:59.180 she was in the turret of the vehicle and it rolled over and and it killed her and so you know you're

00:25:04.780 in the field with your soldiers and you know you got to go talk to your your soldiers and say hey

00:25:10.380 like one of your colleagues just got killed and it wasn't in training right so you know this stuff is

00:25:17.580 is it's real i mean we do practice with live ammo um in the intensity of afghanistan made

00:25:24.860 the training a lot more difficult obviously and as it should be um but even you know the lessons of

00:25:32.860 of wartime always get brought up in peacetime but i i just i question i question the preparedness

00:25:43.180 of the canadian soldier today and i'm not knocking on the soldiers i'm knocking on the leadership

00:25:50.140 uh and i'm talking the senior leadership of the canadian forces not the battalion commanders or

00:25:56.140 the uh brigade commanders uh i'm talking about you know the the brigadiers and up you know these are

00:26:03.420 the people that are going along and i'm sure there's internal conflict and a lot of resistance

00:26:09.180 uh with the senior leadership against the the government but the government seems to be

00:26:14.620 getting its way uh and it's very unfortunate uh in my perspective because we were always told in

00:26:21.260 the military you are not part of a social engineering or social uh experiments that's

00:26:27.580 not your role your role is war fighting in the defense of this nation that's your role it is

00:26:34.620 the business of violence and it's the expertise of violence against an opposing military uh or

00:26:42.060 you know some sort of a a threat and so when we see what's going on now it's very disheartening

00:26:49.260 because let me let me go back to the earrings and the the long hair and all that stuff

00:26:56.380 when you go through basic training okay and i've done it twice i had to do it as a reservist and

00:27:01.900 then i when i joined as an officer i had to do it again and it's i think i think all civilians

00:27:10.380 should go through basic training at least go through basic training i'm not saying i'm for

00:27:14.540 conscription or draft or anything i'm just saying you'll learn a lot about yourself and you'll

00:27:19.020 learn a lot about um you know what is really important and the things in life that we all

00:27:23.980 take for granted when the military will take it away for you but when we go through basic training

00:27:29.660 you're you're stripping down your individuality and you're building back a team you're part of a

00:27:35.820 team okay so this is very fundamentally important so i'll give you a great example in the beginning

00:27:41.420 days of basic training you know you'll have to clean the washrooms for inspections because every

00:27:46.460 morning there's a room inspection there's a common area inspection you know and everyone goes in they

00:27:52.060 clean the bathrooms and it always takes that one guy in the first week to go in there and and

00:27:56.860 urinate in one of the clean urinals right and that's when everybody loses their mind because

00:28:02.700 in that context it's about teamwork and it is always collective punishment okay so just because

00:28:09.980 you screwed up or you decided to use the urinal the rest of us are going to pay for it okay and

00:28:16.380 so this is about breaking down your individuality and recognizing that the only way you survive in

00:28:22.220 battle is if you're on the team if you're part of the team so when we allow people to relax the

00:28:30.860 dress standard and relax the uniform what it does is it puts in your mind i'm not on a team i'm an

00:28:37.660 individual who wears this uniform and it's a subtle difference but it's very very impactful

00:28:45.580 and i've always said this i would always i don't care when you get to the field if the guys want

00:28:50.300 to go wear the most tactical looking gear that they bought at a surplus store i didn't care

00:28:56.380 because i wanted my soldiers to feel like they were eight feet tall and the baddest sobs you

00:29:02.380 know on the planet that's what i want them to believe confidence because the maintenance of

00:29:08.220 morale is a principle of war and so if this guy has to have that one little piece of gucci kit

00:29:13.580 that he wears in the field and it makes him feel invincible get two right but now when we're in

00:29:19.660 in other situations and you want to have your your fingernails done or your ears pierced and

00:29:26.540 that doesn't say to me you're a professional it doesn't say that you're more about the team it

00:29:31.980 is you're more about yourself and the ethos of the military is mission equipment men self that's it

00:29:42.860 but we're inverting that by relaxing these standards so that's my design i think that's

00:29:50.220 by design i mean it seems to me like everything and i i don't want to be over you know over

00:29:55.340 generalized here but it seems to me like the demoralization of canadians not just military

00:30:01.260 but Canadians period has been sort of the game here for the last few weeks.

00:30:06.580 I mean, that's one thing I really like about covering some of these independence events out here

00:30:10.320 is that, you know, you're back in a room where there's people that feel some hope and some pride again

00:30:14.840 because we've just been shamed.

00:30:16.780 I mean, our former prime minister would never even issue an apology

00:30:19.960 unless he could shame Canadians in some way, shape or form with it.

00:30:23.560 It was never an apology for any mistakes or errors in judgment that he made.

00:30:26.960 it was always to name and shame canadians for things that we're not responsible for

00:30:32.000 you know so it seems like this whole demoralization practice has been going on for quite some time and

00:30:37.040 it's yeah definitely especially in the military i find it funny that the i can't remember what

00:30:42.320 the the head lady's name there is now that just took over but there was an article that came out

00:30:47.520 i think last week where she was saying that the military is ready to go to war if they're called

00:30:51.760 upon like well for what we can't even shoot down a freaking chinese balloon for pete's sake like

00:30:57.680 what is the canadian military going to do in a conflict bringing that up though tamara tom give

00:31:02.800 us your opinion i guess as a veteran on what's going on in iran right now and was is this

00:31:08.320 warranted for someone to go in and finally fix the problem what are your thoughts oh wow that's

00:31:14.480 a really really big question uh and i'm going to try to combine your your question and tamara's

00:31:19.920 question um i would first off say wholeheartedly there's no way that we're ready for war we're

00:31:26.880 like so for the the chief of defense staff to come out and make that statement

00:31:31.200 um that is that's all that's just um that sound bites for the media that's not living in reality

00:31:40.480 she knows she's not ready but she can't come out and announce to her adversaries or to canadian

00:31:47.200 adversaries that hey we can't defend ourselves right so she can't come out and make a statement

00:31:51.840 like that but those who are in um those who are in the military have served they know the truth

00:31:59.440 that we are in no state to to take on a worthy adversary okay we're in a situation where between

00:32:08.080 10 and 15 000 vacancies in the regular force military okay if you want to put it into a really

00:32:15.680 like into a context that you can kind of measure the new york city police department has about 35

00:32:22.080 000 police officers canadian forces could not even come close to putting half of that as combat

00:32:30.960 troops like we're talking infantry armor artillery and engineers we couldn't put that into the field

00:32:37.360 we couldn't put half of that into the field effectively okay um so our numbers are are

00:32:45.080 horrific right now recruiting is down people are leaving one because the maintenance of morale has

00:32:51.420 not been maintained and people are embarrassed they know that they're not on a winning team

00:32:56.540 they're not hard chargers you look at a guy like um uh dallas alexander was a jtf2 sniper

00:33:02.620 who, who said, why, why am I losing range time in skill time and training time to go sit in on a

00:33:11.340 DEI lecture? You know, I'm a tier one top of the food chain, um, soldier in Canada. And why am I

00:33:20.280 going to DEI lectures? Like I should be going to lectures that make me do my job better, not on DEI

00:33:27.220 hiring. Okay. So I'm sorry, but it's, it's fundamentally different. This is where we're

00:33:33.660 not supposed to be doing social engineering experiments on members of the military. You're

00:33:39.800 only supposed to be there to learn how to rapidly apply violence to your enemy. I mean, in, in

00:33:50.080 warfare, we don't do a tie. Okay. It's overwhelming force. We're not interested in

00:33:57.120 breaking even. We're interested in dominating in every way possible. And if you look at Canada's

00:34:03.200 wartime record, even up to Afghanistan, we've always, always punched so far above our weight

00:34:10.020 class, but I don't think we're there anymore. I think we've dropped down to several weight

00:34:16.900 classes unfortunately and and who's going to be paying for that you know and let's not forget

00:34:24.340 in world war one and two canada did have conscription it's not widely known but canada

00:34:30.020 did have conscription they sent when they ran out of volunteers they had to send replacements now

00:34:36.580 quebec had a you know a big big issue with this they didn't like it they didn't want it um and i

00:34:43.220 you know i understand the reasons but that doesn't you know ignore the fact that canada

00:34:48.260 drafted young men to go fight in world war one and two and so what's going to happen if

00:34:57.300 we get into it with china russia if the middle east does evolve into something bigger so to go

00:35:04.420 to your question chris i i am trying to watch that very closely i'm not watching it from a

00:35:11.380 Canadian military get involved perspective. I don't think we're anywhere near that, to be honest.

00:35:18.340 I'm getting a lot of conflicting reports whether or not even America is going to put boots on the

00:35:22.920 ground. And I'm seeing the flip-flopping of Carney on his original support for Trump. It's

00:35:31.060 now waning. He's not supporting what the Americans are doing. I don't even think the Americans at

00:35:36.340 this point are supporting what Israel has done. So it's too early to tell really what's going on,

00:35:43.620 what's truth. And it's the most heavily censored war other than Ukraine. So I can't really get a

00:35:53.340 good handle on it. And again, at the end of the day, what's the outcome for Canada? What is within

00:35:58.600 Canada's national interest to risk the lives of Canadian young men and women to go and engage in

00:36:05.800 in that that fight in the middle east especially when we can just go get our bloody oil from

00:36:12.380 alberta so what's the point what's the point with the amount of uh drones and and bombs and fighter

00:36:21.240 jets and that sort of stuff i hope and i pray it doesn't wind up with boots on the ground and so

00:36:25.200 far they're leaning like i haven't heard that that's even an option yet um what i've heard

00:36:29.800 they were just going to eliminate the threat devastate the the iran the iranian government

00:36:34.460 and the regime and then let iran rebuild it up and if that's the case i i hope things go good and i

00:36:40.140 hope there's no more lives taken but uh we can't allow these people to have nuclear weapons and

00:36:45.520 you know they're going to use them if they acquire them and uh i did a video i've seen a video the

00:36:50.380 day it's been a problem with u.s presidents for the last 47 years is it and so far trump's the

00:36:55.820 only one that's been able to take it head to head so i hope yeah i i don't see that's the thing i

00:37:02.400 don't have enough information because you can't get enough information to really validate a lot

00:37:07.340 of those claims. So, you know, I retired from the army in 2015 and then, you know, five weeks later

00:37:14.760 I was sitting in class. My new peer group were a bunch of 17 year olds living at home with their

00:37:19.460 parents. Right. So I went back, did a degree in software and, you know, I was in North York in

00:37:26.560 Toronto and I met a bunch of, and a lot of my teachers were, were Persian. They never said

00:37:31.780 always Persian, right? Amazing, kindest people, you know, a lot of, you know, fellow students,

00:37:38.420 a lot of the teachers, amazing, great people. And when I started teaching at Georgian college,

00:37:43.840 I worked with some Persians as well. Amazing people. They don't like their government,

00:37:49.120 right? I get that. I love Canadians, clearly, and Americans, but I'm not a big fan of the

00:37:54.020 governments. I have no issues with Jewish people in any way, but I certainly don't like the Israeli

00:38:00.060 government and i haven't for a long time and they've made it clear as to why i i disdain what

00:38:05.980 they've been doing over the last couple years okay so there we have to be precise with the language

00:38:12.220 right like it's not about the people it's about the governments of those people and i say this

00:38:17.220 all the time the greatest mass murders in human history have always been the governments of the

00:38:24.140 very people that they murdered. And that is a fact, right? And so there's no love lost with

00:38:30.920 losing the Iranian government and the Ayatollah. But who are the ones who ultimately suffer for

00:38:38.040 this? It's always the people, right? And who's going to replace them? That's the other thing,

00:38:42.800 right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, it's a big question. It's a really big question.

00:38:54.140 But my concerns right now is not necessarily Canada deploying and joining in a kinetic

00:39:04.740 war in the Persian Gulf area or to Ukraine, although we do have a brigade, a full brigade

00:39:11.260 in Lithuania, Latvia.

00:39:13.100 We have a lot of Canadian soldiers.

00:39:15.020 They've been there for years.

00:39:18.260 Kind of the same relationship as when Canada had Lahr and Baden-Baden in Germany during

00:39:22.300 the Cold War.

00:39:23.560 now got a full brigade in lithuania and latvia because of the you know what's going on in ukraine

00:39:30.520 and russia right and i've got a lot of opinions about that that most of your viewers are not going

00:39:35.640 to agree with but that's okay we'll save them for a different day but ultimately for me what it comes

00:39:41.640 down to is you know i've talked about these three different circles before circle of control circle

00:39:47.000 of influence and circle of interest a circle of interest is why every day i watch canadian prepper

00:39:53.560 or i watch some youtube channels that's just my circle of interest i can't do a thing about it

00:39:59.380 none of those people are taking my calls they don't care what tom maraz's opinion are

00:40:03.800 but i'm just keeping tabs on it okay but what i can control and what i can influence

00:40:09.080 that's things like you know do i have fuel do i have backup electricity do i have backup food

00:40:17.960 do i have clean water um do i do i have you know am i taking care of those everyday things that i

00:40:25.160 can control and can influence and so that's where i spend 80 of my time which a lot of people they

00:40:31.960 go down the rabbit holes and they spend 80 of their time inside the circle of interest and not

00:40:37.880 enough on their day-to-day lives what can i do today what what do i have control over you know

00:40:43.640 i live in brampton ontario okay i am only literally less than a kilometer away line of sight

00:40:50.680 to the big 55 foot tall hoonaman statue i i walk my dog there all the time you can go on social

00:40:57.960 media and be baited by all of this perception all of this anger and all of these things about you

00:41:05.160 know different uh immigration problems and all that but when you sit down and look at it in your

00:41:10.440 everyday life is it actually impacting you does it impact what i can control and what i can influence

00:41:16.840 and the answer is no so i kind of like to change my perspective and focus on the important things

00:41:23.640 and so this is where um you know we'll get into it i i hope we'll talk about the book and why i

00:41:30.200 wrote it but what it is about and it's about maintaining the circle of control and circle of

00:41:36.520 of influence and how I can protect my friends, my family,

00:41:43.220 my community or people that are in my area.

00:41:46.920 That's what I'm interested in.

00:41:48.880 There's nothing I can do.

00:41:50.020 Tucker Carlson doesn't take my calls.

00:41:52.520 You know, neither does Donald Trump or BB.

00:41:57.280 Like nobody takes my calls.

00:41:59.100 I'm not offended, that's okay.

00:42:00.760 I take your calls Tom.

00:42:02.120 Now that I can, now that I'm allowed to.

00:42:04.280 Well, let's get into your book, but let's go back first to your first book.

00:42:13.240 So after the Freedom Convoy, you became very, I mean, we don't have to get into the year

00:42:16.940 political run, but you got involved in politics.

00:42:19.940 And I think at the same time, yeah, the People's Emergencies Act.

00:42:23.440 So let's just talk a few minutes about the People's Emergencies Act.

00:42:26.240 And then you have a second book, which is basically a collection of writings from your

00:42:30.300 Substack account. And then what brought you, got you into the prepping part of it?

00:42:36.660 Yeah. So great, great story. So believe it or not, back in 2017, I actually had a Shopify store

00:42:43.400 and I was selling, you know, bug out bags and the whole bit, you know, really good gear,

00:42:50.580 emergency gear. The difference is like, I don't ever approach this from a perspective of fear.

00:42:56.580 I don't do fear mongering. I do caution, but I don't do the fear. I, I, you don't, nobody buys

00:43:03.300 insurance because they're terrified or they're scared. They buy it because one, in some cases,

00:43:08.240 it's the law. Uh, but two, because it's just necessary. It's something in life you have to do.

00:43:14.460 Okay. So I, I started this, um, uh, you know, Shopify store. I was drop shipping. I was selling

00:43:22.620 products that i thought were good products that people could use for their emergency planning

00:43:27.900 um you know and so fast forward covet hits and i'm mr gray man i did not ever come out of the

00:43:36.460 shadows uh but i was in one little small chat group on telegram and and the people in the group

00:43:42.860 are really really freaking out and so i said look i'm gonna do a two-hour video call with you

00:43:50.140 with the whole group and we're going to talk about how to properly do planning okay and it was

00:43:56.780 and right now if you go on the website uh you can download that chapter uh it's it's called

00:44:02.700 the haste it's hasty planning like it's when you don't have a lot of time and you got to do a good

00:44:06.780 solid plan and you have to analyze the situation properly so i did that online training with this

00:44:12.620 group of people and because people were freaking out and they didn't know what to do and some of

00:44:18.060 them are like can you just do me a plan i'm like no i can't but i can show you how to do it for

00:44:22.380 yourself it's the whole teach me to fish kind of mentality right and so uh you know i lose my job

00:44:30.780 as a as a teacher in a college uh georgian college uh in barry uh just in case anyone's

00:44:36.380 ever thinking about going there uh you'll know who they you know what they're really like

00:44:41.740 um they fired 25 of us um so anyway i uh got fired from that a couple months later moved

00:44:52.460 end up at the convoy and um you know had enough content from you good folks to uh to put into a

00:44:59.340 book and um but i did a few months after the convoy i ran as a uh candidate with the ontario

00:45:08.220 party derek sloan is the leader of the party i ran in the peterborough riding uh to become an mpp

00:45:14.860 i got exactly 1973 votes uh i know that because that's the year i was born um and so yeah that's

00:45:24.460 how many votes i got i clearly got a good solid ass whooping um but that's okay and i i've stayed

00:45:30.940 on with the party i i'm currently the interim president of the party but i didn't run in the

00:45:36.620 the last last election um and so i'm still involved like politically uh from more on the

00:45:43.800 administrative side um but i don't think it's in me to ever run again i don't want to be a politician

00:45:50.520 i have better things to do with my life than uh go rip off uh taxpayers um i say that joke i do

00:45:58.080 say that jokingly i mean i'm i'm of the opinion that um the system is like the matrix um it

00:46:05.980 protects itself at all cost it doesn't matter if you're neo or not the system is going to protect

00:46:11.780 itself right and and so i kind of see that in in the political spectrum uh quite a bit so yeah

00:46:19.040 anyway i i do that but i write a lot and i discovered when i wrote the first book that i

00:46:23.740 really do like to write i enjoyed it so i started writing uh a bunch of long format stuff on twitter

00:46:30.320 and Keith Wilson kept giving me crap saying, it's Twitter, man. Nobody's going to read that.

00:46:37.200 So I took all my good long ones and I moved them over to Substack and I had enough for a book.

00:46:45.960 So Joanna said to me, like, why don't you put all your Substack articles into a book?

00:46:50.220 And which is what I did. And it's funny because somebody bought the book today,

00:46:53.460 which I never even advertise it, but it's actually called the upstream effect. Sorry,

00:46:57.820 i get my blur on yeah that's okay just a little bit of blurry up the upstream effect yeah yeah

00:47:02.140 the upstream effect how politics captures culture and how we take it back uh so that's just a series

00:47:08.940 of my sub stacks and then uh you know i put that out trish wood actually wrote the forward

00:47:14.860 uh for that one and uh i i really did appreciate her taking the time to do that um and so that's

00:47:22.140 what it is a collection of of articles that i've written for my sub stack i put them in i've already

00:47:26.620 got enough for a a fourth book just from my sub stacks alone um which i mean shout out to trish

00:47:33.580 wood who's been a huge trish wood has been a friend of the convoy since like the very beginning

00:47:38.300 since before we even left you know so she's so so i'm glad she did that for you yes what an honor

00:47:44.380 yes yeah yeah so i i got contacted by a really good friend of mine he was actually uh my the

00:47:52.620 very first krav maga instructor i had and when i was posted to london and we become good friends

00:47:59.020 we've we've you know stayed in touch for god i think the uh the the 13 years since i've left

00:48:06.060 london uh you know we talked regularly and he had a group of people up in uh northern ontario that

00:48:13.740 wanted to do some training um you know military training but the sort of uh scope of what they

00:48:21.260 wanted to do was left wide open. And I said, okay, I am not, I'm not training, training any army

00:48:26.860 skills with guns and all that kind of stuff. But what I'm going to do is I'm going to come up for

00:48:31.880 a weekend and I'm going to train everyone on how to plan, how to effectively plan. Now we did do

00:48:37.920 an overnighter. We did some military skills and it was good. Like I, I enjoyed my time. I know

00:48:46.800 the feedback was amazing uh i was very pleased with how the weekend went and so i i what i taught

00:48:53.520 in the planning side was one little tiny piece of the bigger picture uh and that's the piece

00:48:59.040 that i'm actually giving away in my uh you know on my my website for free on the landing page and

00:49:08.160 you know that's what the weekend training was but it's only like the tip of the iceberg

00:49:12.320 you know so i thought you know what it's time to take the operational planning process that i was

00:49:19.360 taught by the military and by the way david redmond um is he he wrote the preface to this book

00:49:28.800 and david is trained to the same level as i am trained but david was uh retired as a lieutenant

00:49:34.880 colonel and then when he retired he went in and started working for emergency management alberta

00:49:41.440 in the anti-terrorism division right after 9-11.

00:49:47.040 But it didn't take long before he actually became

00:49:50.020 the head of emergency management in Alberta.

00:49:53.580 And so David became very vocal during the pandemic,

00:49:59.220 I would say within the first few months of the pandemic,

00:50:01.440 saying, what in the hell is going on?

00:50:04.700 This is not what we were supposed to do.

00:50:07.360 This was never the plan.

00:50:08.920 We have plans for this.

00:50:11.440 And he said he's written a letter to the government.

00:50:14.220 He's written a letter to every emergency management office in Canada

00:50:19.920 and sent them the letter saying, what the hell are you doing?

00:50:24.340 You know, the WHO back in 2014 even said, you don't mask,

00:50:29.040 you don't social distance, you don't shut your economy down,

00:50:32.020 you don't do all these bloody stupid things that every government

00:50:35.600 in the world did.

00:50:36.380 and it was and it was the who that updated all their because they had a break in 2014

00:50:45.700 and so everybody yeah go ahead that was one of the big big tells was that you know everyone

00:50:53.840 all agencies and provinces organizations had their own emergency preparedness plans

00:50:58.600 for a pandemic and they all just got completely tossed out the window and

00:51:02.580 And I think I remember Danny Bulford, you know, that was sort of one of the things that

00:51:07.660 really opened his eyes right away too, is, you know, why we have all these plans in place.

00:51:11.300 Why are we throwing them all out the window and, you know, making up new plans as we go?

00:51:16.920 Well, and here's the, here's the really terrible thing.

00:51:19.540 So in 2008 to 10, I was posted to the army's headquarters in Toronto and in a domestic

00:51:27.460 emergency that headquarters shifts from being the army headquarters to the joint task force

00:51:35.220 so there you know if there was a snowstorm or ice storm the the army commander who's a brigadier

00:51:40.680 general would take command of all naval and air force as well as army assets in ontario okay for

00:51:47.360 a domestic emergency like a snowstorm like what we had in the 90s and i participated in that as a

00:51:53.520 reservist in the 90s. And so, you know, every September, the headquarters will do their annual

00:52:00.700 domestic ops exercise. So the whole entire headquarters gets exercised. We get role

00:52:07.440 players, we get actors, you know, we get media, we get all of it. And I was on the commander's

00:52:13.660 assessment team. So my job would have been to deploy to the danger or to the emergency area

00:52:19.540 uh and look at it from an engineer point of view and report back uh to my boss in toronto on what

00:52:27.360 i'm finding on the ground so i was the forward deployed um commander's assessment team uh

00:52:33.640 engineer rep and so i you know every morning we have the morning brief with the general and i sat

00:52:42.360 beside the emo rep the emergency management ontario rep okay i sat beside this guy in the

00:52:48.160 general's morning briefing every day and he himself was a retired air force brigadier general

00:52:53.880 okay so what's important to understand is every province and territory has one of these

00:53:00.160 organizations and all of them use the same operational planning process that we use in the

00:53:06.220 army why because we all have to integrate in a real life event and and half the people that come

00:53:12.360 of the military go in or you know half of the emo offices they're all ex-military anyway so we all

00:53:20.240 speak the same language now in 2010 when you had the ghe 20 summit uh emergency management

00:53:27.900 ontario was an integral part of that uh planning process you know so we all integrated very very

00:53:35.540 seamlessly into it and i would almost argue that they were better at the process than we were

00:53:40.780 Um, because they don't have to do war fighting in theirs.

00:53:43.300 Right.

00:53:43.720 We, we use the same process for war fighting, domestic ops and a whole

00:53:49.200 bunch of other things anyway.

00:53:51.720 Um, so what happened was I, I was kind of shocked that, so we have a thing in

00:54:00.760 Ontario, it's called op laser operation laser in its Ontario's contingency plan

00:54:07.220 for the military.

00:54:08.280 If there's a pandemic or an endemic.

00:54:10.140 And I know this because every September I had to read it, review it, put notes on it and sign off that I had done all that stuff so that the plan could be updated, you know, at one of many, many people to have to review it and be aware of it.

00:54:24.640 But it wasn't just plan. I was going to say plandemics, but I guess it wasn't just plandemics, but it was like a what's the contingency plan for an ice storm or snowstorm or a flood or whatever forest fires.

00:54:37.600 so we have all these contingency plans that we have to review right so long very long story i've

00:54:45.680 given the audience and i apologize for that but this was the genesis of the book because we've

00:54:52.080 seen natural disaster after natural disaster happen in both canada the united states especially

00:54:58.960 the us where fema has done nothing to help people uh they've been a bigger hindrance than than any

00:55:06.400 any other organization in in many cases not all and our organizations i haven't heard anything

00:55:13.520 out of them in forever okay in emergency management ontario was nowhere to be found

00:55:20.720 during the pandemic okay and so to to go by why this is so important why this is fundamentally

00:55:29.120 uh screwed up and i want you to imagine a wheel like a 10 speed wheel with a hub in the middle

00:55:37.040 and a bunch of spokes okay the hub in the middle in a natural disaster or an emergency or a public

00:55:42.960 emergency the hub in the middle is your emergency management organization they're the hub in the

00:55:48.960 middle and they're the direct interface between the government decision makers and all of the

00:55:55.040 institutions in society so every spoke is just one institution in society medical police banking

00:56:04.320 uh your your faith like religion uh education all of those different institutions in society

00:56:11.920 are a spoke what did they do in every province and territory in canada they pulled the hub out

00:56:18.800 they grabbed the medical spoke and they shoved that in the middle and said you're now the hub

00:56:24.720 of this whole shit show and what did they do what did they do they focused on what they know

00:56:30.620 medical what does the bureaucrat doctor running a hospital know about the economy or about policing

00:56:39.320 nothing nothing and so what i've done is i said okay you know what i've got the knowledge i've

00:56:48.100 got the training i've got the experience i am going to give the public the very process that

00:56:54.360 our emergency management organizations and military and some police departments use i'm

00:57:00.440 going to give it to you i'm going to civilianize it so that you can now go in proper effective

00:57:07.880 operational planning process and come up with a bunch of your own contingency plans

00:57:13.480 for you and your family that's the goal of this book it's actually it is a workbook

00:57:19.400 um there's annexes in the back or appendixes you you fill in the sheets i would recommend

00:57:26.440 you photocopy them and then fill them in and create a series of your own contingency plans

00:57:33.080 that's the goal of the book and i am developing a web app i'm i'm almost done to marry you're one

00:57:41.400 of my beta testers now we got you signed up um yeah and you know before everyone freaks out oh

00:57:46.920 the power is going to go out no you're going to go through the process uh create your plans

00:57:53.560 and then you're going to print them because you can print them into a pdf and put them in a binder

00:57:58.920 and so if that event happens you just activate your plan that's the goal right now i i'm i'm

00:58:07.560 more than happy i think you'll be more than said if you buy the book and i haven't released the

00:58:11.720 the web app yet, but in the future, I'm going to release it.

00:58:15.320 Um, so you've got two options and the, the app actually refers to the book, which

00:58:19.960 chapters in the book, uh, that you should be on in it.

00:58:22.860 So if you want to read more, uh, get more background, you can go in and read the

00:58:27.400 chapter in the book and then have a better understanding of what the app is doing.

00:58:31.580 Um, so yeah,

00:58:32.980 this is great.

00:58:34.340 You know, it's really funny because I mean, all of us go to work or most of us

00:58:38.980 anyways go to work in jobs where we have to have emergency plans but like then they have to be

00:58:44.200 updated every six months or yearly um for most places especially in the oil oil industry and

00:58:49.620 oil and gas industry anything like that but you know you know you're right we really don't do that

00:58:53.920 in our personal lives no i don't know i don't know i know very few people that actually that

00:59:00.460 actually do stuff like that in their in their personal lives so if anything it's just a great

00:59:05.660 exercise even just to think about what you're going to have to do you know chris i think you

00:59:11.020 were muted there what year was the texas ice storms there was people dying after three days

00:59:16.620 in their apartments because they had no clue how to survive what are your thoughts on the natural

00:59:21.180 gas system if guys the generator you brought up you you reminded me of something is you know we

00:59:26.780 always hear about 72 hours the 72 hours and if people want to know where does the 72 hours come

00:59:32.460 from well think about this the government has to declare an emergency then they have to activate

00:59:40.220 their emergency management organization those people have to all assemble try to figure out

00:59:47.100 what's going on develop a plan go through their operational planning process and then deploy

00:59:54.380 volunteers and resources to those affected areas so you have a responsibility to get

01:00:02.220 yourself, uh, in a safe place in, in recovered, or at least until the amount of time where

01:00:09.420 emergency management or, uh, the authorities can get to you and help you.

01:00:14.380 So you, this is what the public never really has to think about is that you have a responsibility

01:00:20.300 to yourself and to the people that are trying to get in rescue you, which is it's a partnership.

01:00:29.180 it's not like it's your job to save me the partnership right but how do you do that if you

01:00:34.940 if you just if no one's ever taught you how to do that effectively and what's unfortunate to me

01:00:41.260 is people fall into the trap of uh they treat it gear first i gotta buy this gucci kit first

01:00:47.900 i gotta buy the the thing the the thing first that i saw on the you know the gear review on

01:00:54.860 the youtube channel um those things are really important they are um i think you'd be crazy if

01:01:00.860 you didn't at least have some sort of backup electricity in your home if you don't have that

01:01:07.980 i would say that's at the top of your list to make sure that you get that because it's going

01:01:11.180 to apply in all emergencies except so much for civil unrest and even there there's a really good

01:01:17.500 case to be made um you know food water shelter those are the basics i mean we're getting into

01:01:23.740 maslow's hierarchy of needs kind of thing when you're talking food water shelter but at the end

01:01:29.020 of the day what what my method is or what we would do in the military is i i do a threat matrix first

01:01:37.740 and i score the threats that are most likely and most dangerous okay so let me let me break

01:01:47.260 that down for you because you can have something that's um not likely okay so i live in ontario

01:01:55.500 you guys are out west is it likely you're going to get a volcano no but if you did it's highly

01:02:03.420 dangerous okay so you need those two things to really to assess whether or not something is truly

01:02:09.820 dangerous so it could be highly likely like we live in ontario where it's highly likely to get a

01:02:16.060 snowstorm but is it really dangerous for canadians not necessarily okay but what you just said chris

01:02:23.180 with texans okay um in texas not very likely but highly dangerous um but now i think people would

01:02:31.660 go well it's at least medium likely and it's very dangerous to me now the third question if you get

01:02:38.220 a high score and a high score the next question is could this thing force me out of my home in

01:02:43.260 the first 48 hours so if the answer is yes yes and yes that is the plan that you need to focus on

01:02:52.460 okay my threat assessment where i live revealed my number one threat is uh home invasion

01:03:00.300 in in my area where i live so my number one contingency plan is for home invasion

01:03:06.780 okay um and then i go down the list and so what i do is i get you to go through the book through

01:03:14.580 the threat matrix score all of them and if you get a score a high enough number what i'm saying

01:03:21.620 is now go through the rest of the process and do individual plans for those individual high scored

01:03:28.000 threats you there's no one size fits all okay there's no such thing as a one size fits all

01:03:34.600 You've got to assess what the threat is.

01:03:37.260 And then we go into something called intelligence

01:03:39.780 preparation of the environment.

01:03:42.380 And that's where I look at the old, the environment around me.

01:03:47.240 And I don't consider what the emergency is.

01:03:50.080 I just look at the true state of it.

01:03:51.920 So for example, uh, behind me, I have a big water retention pond

01:03:56.280 down the street.

01:03:56.980 I've got a bridge.

01:03:58.460 Okay.

01:03:58.820 I'm just looking at the terrain around me because they're going to

01:04:03.180 mean different things to me if I lose them. Right now, I got to know that they're there. And then

01:04:08.820 I have to ask myself, what happens under stress? What happens to that water retention pond under

01:04:15.080 stress if it gives way or if it overflows? What happens if I lose the bridge at the end of my

01:04:21.160 street? Right? And this is what the IPE is aiming to do. Now, the good thing is you do your threat

01:04:28.520 assessment you do your ipe and then you don't have to do those again because both of those things

01:04:35.320 apply to the rest of the uh the process you go through for building your contingency plans

01:04:43.160 now you'll go through uh courses of action uh you'll always pick one of three and you score

01:04:49.960 them objectively you know in the three courses of action are always the same stay prepare to leave

01:04:57.960 and bug out that's all you got in a domestic emergency that's it but you should go through

01:05:04.200 and score those and pick you know which is the right course of action i should follow in this

01:05:08.360 particular threat and what's my backup okay and so you do that and then you get to the really fun

01:05:16.280 part and this is my favorite part the war game uh because this is what husbands and wives do all the

01:05:21.720 the time. Right. Or you do with your kids, you, you get to take turns, you set up the scenario

01:05:28.800 and you say, okay. Um, at this time we've decided we're going to leave. We're going to bug out.

01:05:36.660 Okay. All of our triggers that we identified, they've all given us a green light time to get

01:05:41.640 ready and leave. Okay. So that's the first thing. So what do we do? Okay. Tom is going to, let's

01:05:48.960 a civil unrest uh scenario civil big civil unrest okay first thing tom's responsibility is to go to

01:05:56.720 the pre-identified uh kit list that he already has in his plan grabs it all starts putting it in the

01:06:03.360 car but what if tom notices down um down the street there's a big mob walking towards their

01:06:10.960 place and they look like they're looting okay so what okay what does that tell me that tells me

01:06:18.960 Okay. And let me back up a little bit. I'm packing the car and Joanna is in the house. She's dealing

01:06:25.040 with packing food, packing clothes, dealing with the dog, dealing with the kids, doing all that

01:06:30.680 stuff. Well, now all of a sudden I see this horde of people coming down the street. Now I need to,

01:06:38.480 that's my so what. My, my so what is okay, Joanna, you now need to get up into the window

01:06:43.940 and provide overwatch for me while I'm packing the car okay so you go through the whole war game

01:06:51.660 piece which is the the good turn this is my turn then the devil's advocate gets to go you argue

01:06:58.160 and somebody poke holes in your plan or tells you what's going to screw this whole thing up for you

01:07:03.120 and then you get the last turn and says okay if that happens well this is my response and so what

01:07:09.600 you do is you do the turn taking the war game you literally i get a turn a counter turn and a

01:07:14.940 counter counter turn and then you add up that list of all the things what you've done is you

01:07:22.760 you've identified triggers and decisions now you have a list of triggers and decisions

01:07:29.320 and you do that from the time you leave your house to the time you get to your final destination

01:07:35.480 and then you start to go into your sustainment so this is really what the book is is trying to teach

01:07:41.360 um it can be fun uh it can be difficult but if you do it one time you get through one planning cycle

01:07:50.480 everything else after that will be a breeze it'll actually be fun because now the goal in the war

01:07:56.080 game is to screw each other over and write it all down right this is what husbands and wives do all

01:08:01.780 the time. Well, if you ain't going to take out the garbage, well, then I ain't going to cook

01:08:05.120 anymore. Right. Well, if you ain't going to cook, well, then I'm going to spend your money and buy

01:08:09.500 it. So you know what I mean? We do that. This is, this is what it's all about. Right. So I'm trying

01:08:15.780 to get people to make deductions about what they have to do, not invent it. Go through the steps

01:08:22.420 of what can happen. You know, Chris, you you've been driving truck for forever. You have a bunch

01:08:29.660 of sort of uh sops when things happen you go through your sops that's just an emergency plan

01:08:37.020 that you have it's a checklist that you're going through you're following and you've got the

01:08:41.340 experience to back it up and see it through and modify that plan right and so yeah yeah you hear

01:08:48.940 it click when you're driving down the highway and you start planning out in your head what could

01:08:51.980 that have been is that you know and how am i going to fix it i could yeah tools toolbox in the truck

01:08:57.900 i have a water supply on the truck i have i can basically self-survive in big red for

01:09:03.420 minimally a week probably i guess just with what i'm set up on right now but i you never know

01:09:08.460 when a snowstorm is going to catch you in a parking lot when you're going to be stranded

01:09:11.260 on a highway and yeah i i was going to mention this point earlier we live in a society right

01:09:16.060 now where there's a certain population right now that don't even know how to change a tire on a car

01:09:20.460 that's true yeah all caa yeah yeah yeah i i had my my daughter out with me we were at

01:09:27.580 the land uh the last uh three visits i was with her and we were building like shelters and you

01:09:34.860 know using matches somebody just asked if i had matches i'm like yeah i got matches i got i got

01:09:40.700 flints i've got uh magnifying glass i got it all right but the idea is to get my daughter involved

01:09:46.860 in that and to get interested and she was just eating it up um you know matches teaching her

01:09:53.420 matches like it this is this is fun stuff for kids okay it's uh it's what i was brought up on

01:09:59.980 was building forts and shelters and you name it right yeah absolutely me too yeah and and so i

01:10:05.900 mean most of our kids can't even read a map like a google you know like dwayne and i have made it

01:10:10.780 a habit to start buying maps when we're in new places because and we've got stacks of them now

01:10:15.980 um especially you know driving back across the country as much many times as we have and if we

01:10:20.300 ever lost the internet i mean you need to know how to read a map yeah yeah and you know the

01:10:25.900 important thing to realize there's a saying in the army is that uh the best laid plans never survive

01:10:31.100 first contact with the enemy okay but here's the thing that's really important and i spend my first

01:10:36.540 chapter talking about fear the physiological effect of fear on the human body okay and if you really

01:10:43.900 want to know what i'm talking about for the viewers think back to a time in your life

01:10:48.220 or in an emergency you were trying to dial 9-1-1 and it was difficult for you to even hit the

01:10:54.060 buttons okay and by the way that's been studied extensively um when you your heart rate go starts

01:11:01.900 to go above 115 beats per minute from fear i'm not talking cardiovascular or a treadmill i'm

01:11:08.060 talking about you know cortisol and adrenaline you've got 10 seconds before you start losing

01:11:13.820 fine motor control okay after the fine motor control your heart rate's still going up now

01:11:19.180 you're starting to lose gross motor control this is now when you're getting into think a lot of

01:11:25.180 cognitive impairment okay so how in the world are you expected to start functioning uh if you've

01:11:32.940 never come up with a plan and you're terrified you know and half your house just got wiped out

01:11:38.860 in a tornado and now you're like i i'm terrified i'm glad to be alive but what do i do now right

01:11:45.740 so the idea is you know another thing we say in the military is that we always fall back on our

01:11:51.580 training you know we we fall back on the lowest common denominator the lowest level you you rise

01:11:56.940 to the level of your training and so when you have a plan it's not and i always talk about this uh

01:12:02.380 because i'm you know i used to be a big star trek fan uh you know you got the enterprise it's

01:12:07.260 surrounded by all these enemy ships your shields are gone your phasers are gone uh and and all of

01:12:13.500 a sudden bang you come up with the picard maneuver and outsmart everybody and save the day well i'm

01:12:20.380 sorry but that's not reality that's not how it's done in real life and that's not how an army

01:12:25.020 commander does it an army commander goes onto the battlefield and he's already analyzed everything

01:12:30.780 that the enemy can do to him and he's already figuring out what is most dangerous and what is

01:12:35.980 most likely that that enemy is going to do to me and that's what i'm going to plan my my strategy

01:12:43.340 based around and so when when they go into battle when a commander goes into battle what they're

01:12:49.980 doing is they're actually off they're they're fighting from a pre-scripted checklist it's like

01:12:57.740 if the enemy does this because i've already thought about it then i'm going to do that

01:13:01.820 but if he does this instead well i've already determined that my response will be this right

01:13:09.100 and we have something called an attack guidance matrix or a decision support template and what

01:13:14.100 we do is and everybody in the chain knows that so that if the commander does get killed on the

01:13:19.460 battlefield the next guy takes over and he fights off of that piece of paper and he makes the same

01:13:25.240 decisions it's predetermined decisions so you're not trying to make a strategy in the middle

01:13:31.520 of a life-threatening battle on the fly yeah on the fly on the fly yeah even like you said

01:13:37.840 the mental exercise of going through it i mean i find like and this is doesn't compare by any

01:13:43.460 means but i know for myself like you know i don't prepare notes usually when i speak

01:13:47.240 but you know just thinking about going like sort of a visualization or thinking it all through

01:13:52.320 helps me at that time because because even in a situation like that you do get nervous there's

01:13:58.400 know even subconsciously you get nervous like i don't feel like i get nervous speaking in front

01:14:03.120 of people but you know i still get a dry mouth or you still get you know a little bit anxious

01:14:07.280 and so just the thought process of just thinking through it beforehand is a game changer and that's

01:14:13.200 before you actually sit down with a pen and paper and start writing it out you know and actually

01:14:17.840 creating a concrete plan yes have you thought about taking this and and like like because i

01:14:23.600 would take a course for this have you thought about putting this into like a course format for

01:14:27.440 online, online and in-person classes.

01:14:29.840 Cause I would definitely sign up for that.

01:14:31.680 Yeah.

01:14:32.000 So on the website right now, um, the URL is attached under my name.

01:14:37.820 Uh, I do have a box in there.

01:14:39.260 If people want to sign up to, to a course, like if, if you've got a group

01:14:43.560 of at least 10 people, um, and you can find a facility, then I'll come and do a

01:14:48.340 day, uh, worth of training with the goal of, you know, you walk out of there with

01:14:53.200 at least one contingency plan for your highest threat.

01:14:57.440 um for you and your family um so yeah i'm willing to do that and i like i've already started to put

01:15:04.960 the material together i have a phone call tomorrow uh there's a group potentially that's going to

01:15:09.520 want me to come to ottawa of all places in uh in september uh it's a nice city yeah yeah you know

01:15:20.560 it's it's funny uh because because i tried to do a little tiny piece of this with pat king

01:15:27.440 He was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:29.620 And then he kind of looked at me, he goes, who are you?

01:15:32.000 And then he lost interest right away and walked out of the room and never did anything that

01:15:37.000 him and I planned.

01:15:39.220 I get it.

01:15:40.280 I get it.

01:15:40.860 But it's fine with me.

01:15:42.060 But I, you know, I think that what I'm trying to give people is not fear.

01:15:49.360 You don't have to be afraid.

01:15:51.440 You know, if I, if my roof disappears on my house after a tornado, I'm going to be scared

01:15:56.620 whether I got a plan or not. Right. But the issue is, you know, do I have confidence that I have a

01:16:04.920 plan? Or am I standing there going, why didn't I plan? Why didn't I make a plan for this? And

01:16:12.380 that's a big, big difference. I mean, I want to come from a place of confidence. I don't want to

01:16:16.920 come from a place of fear when I'm doing this. You know, and I want to share this, this plan with my

01:16:23.940 family uh you know i i do a plan and i've had people say well my my kids will never go for this

01:16:29.940 my adult kids won't go for this and do it i say make your own plan factor them in it and when

01:16:37.540 the event kicks off just say i've already i've already considered it all just get here and we'll

01:16:43.380 take care of you and then they're going to be like ah yeah she wasn't crazy or he wasn't crazy you

01:16:49.540 know and i've and i've heard that um i've heard that scenario on a number of times

01:16:54.900 uh like family members don't want to support it and people become so entitled in this country

01:17:00.420 right now that you know i've seen this all the time when we're on the farm here i have i think

01:17:04.980 i'm getting a little on beef now but we usually buy a half a cow cut and wrapped a pig coming next

01:17:10.020 week um cut and wrapped we have a cold storage building it has cans and yeah yep it is we're

01:17:19.300 sat on the farm here for quite a while but what will happen when when a crisis happens in a major

01:17:23.700 city those people will then start moving outwards right survival mode and then yeah there's yeah

01:17:30.500 so so chapter 12 of the book i talk a lot about uh the mental piece of this um and i and i asked

01:17:39.220 the readers to really reflect on the level of violence that they're going to be comfortable

01:17:45.480 with right okay and and that's a it's i i debated whether or not to put that into the book but i

01:17:52.500 thought that it was too vital of a chapter to put in there you know i i know what i'm going to do

01:17:58.660 but i am asking the reader to to do some navel gazing and sit there and and really think about

01:18:05.920 what are the conditions that i'm actually going to use force or even deadly force in a natural

01:18:13.200 disaster or an emergency you know because i think this is important you have to

01:18:20.880 i studied you know combatives i i ran a krav maga club for a while i taught stuff from gavin

01:18:28.320 de becker's book the gift of fear it's an amazing book everyone should read it um but the one thing

01:18:34.000 i never let my female students do was train with other females i never let that i only let them

01:18:40.800 train with men because a woman's natural uh predator is not another woman it's a man and a

01:18:47.920 man's predator by the way is a man and so i never let my students my female students train with women

01:18:56.240 because that's not who they're going to be fighting they're not going to be defending

01:18:59.440 their lives against other women they're going to be defending against a man so if they come into my

01:19:05.120 club and they start throwing the guys all over they're going to get this false sense of security

01:19:09.600 and think that they can just walk up in in and do you know some charlie's their own move or something

01:19:16.480 on some guy out on the street and she's going to get rudely waking up right and so i'm i'm trying

01:19:25.040 to get people to really really think about the level of violence uh that they may or may not have

01:19:31.840 to uh bring forward against somebody coming into their home to steal resources from them and their

01:19:38.240 family um you know i in my point of view when during during the covet days i mean i was fully

01:19:44.640 prepared um and my concern was if it started to get really bad that people were going to be going

01:19:51.840 door to door doing bnes looking for food and my thought was um i'm gonna have a little gold a

01:20:00.720 goodie bag uh and i'm basically going to give that bag of food because i'm not really interested in

01:20:09.360 killing a a father or a mother who are just trying to feed their kids right you know and i know some

01:20:16.640 people are comfortable with that i'm not however however i'll give you the bag of food and it comes

01:20:24.560 with a very stern warning i don't want to see you come back here this is just to get you on your way

01:20:32.080 don't come back there won't be another bag for you and it's going to go bad for you

01:20:35.840 i've already made my decisions about the level of violence that i will bring on anybody who comes

01:20:40.160 through my door who is uninvited when my family's in the house that decision is already made i don't

01:20:46.960 have to ruminate about it when somebody's trying to kick in my front door that decision was made

01:20:52.960 years ago for me and so when i'm terrified again i don't want to be looking for the picard maneuver

01:21:00.480 uh and think that i'm going to come up with some way i've already decided i already know what i'm

01:21:05.200 going to do i already know how i'm going to react if somebody comes through my front door

01:21:10.160 why because my threat assessment tells me that home invasion is my number one threat

01:21:17.120 and so i've already gotten comfortable with the level of violence i'm willing to bring

01:21:21.920 uh and i already have my plan for what i'm going to do and i've already taken steps to fortify my

01:21:27.440 my doors and windows yeah i don't have to worry about this now yeah right i have a i have a little

01:21:34.880 a black dog that sleeps at the foot of the bed and somebody even drives near the yard in the

01:21:38.880 middle of the night we're on a desolate part of the country right now but if somebody enters the

01:21:42.800 yard security system free fires up and we know that somebody's coming and um they're good when

01:21:50.960 it comes to keyboard warriors on the internet you're not going to be able to type your way out

01:21:54.640 of a of a dangerous scenario here so you know what i'm exchanging and i hope nothing ever happens

01:22:00.640 like that but we are getting more volatile as the world right now we've been away from world

01:22:04.400 conflicts and it seems like we're getting closer and closer every day so it doesn't hurt to be

01:22:09.240 prepared yes i i would like to take this uh go ahead tamara i was just going to say exactly

01:22:16.680 because i mean no one's coming to save you i mean chris you're a perfect example you are 25

01:22:22.360 minutes north of of swift current so i mean if you have an emergency at your house and you phone

01:22:29.780 the police you know it's going to be a minimum of 25 minutes for them to get there and that's if

01:22:34.680 they're not all tied up on other business that are happening other calls so i mean time is of

01:22:40.580 the essence and you know there canada is so very rural like a lot of our communities and people are

01:22:46.280 very rural people so i mean this is such an important tool um for them to have i'm gonna

01:22:51.540 i lost a few years ago in uh in alberta to a home invasion with an armed insurer and uh sean

01:23:01.540 lost his life unfortunately but what he was able to do was counter the attacker and mortally wound

01:23:06.900 him to the point where he saved his family um and that was evident when that happened and he gave

01:23:12.180 his life to to protect his family and he didn't make it to the hospital unfortunately but i think

01:23:16.900 think about them all the time we are um growing up you said that you know 25 minutes away from

01:23:22.440 the nearest detachment or a hospital or that my my in a story i had as a kid there my i was

01:23:27.800 obviously in trouble a lot as a as a young one and i put my parents through the mill quite a bit

01:23:32.320 but i remember getting very cocky with my father once and saying you know i'll call social security

01:23:37.680 or social services if you use that you know belt on my rear end and he handed me the phone and he

01:23:42.220 said dial it you have 25 minutes before the police get here and i hung the phone up and took my

01:23:50.460 licking and i never got a licking that i didn't deserve of course growing up and that's another

01:23:54.260 part of aspect of what's missing in today's youth but we had the best parents i'm so glad i was born

01:24:02.160 in the 70s honestly yeah yeah yeah i yeah because because david redmond always talks about you know

01:24:08.940 there used to be helicopter parents and he says now they're bulldozer parents

01:24:14.700 which is basically the parent is going to go after anybody who makes their child's life uncomfortable

01:24:20.220 right 100 you know and it's like oh like i yeah you know that's not good my father had a chunk

01:24:28.460 of baseboard growing up because he's like i am not going to hurt my hand kicking your ass so he

01:24:32.780 would just use a piece of piece board that hurt very much so we had the wooden spoon

01:24:40.060 yeah i got i got the wooden spoon and a bunch of other things and uh i got strapped twice

01:24:44.940 in in elementary school could you imagine that happening now oh my god you know hold

01:24:51.260 out with criminal charges now but that was something that more you know yeah i got it

01:24:55.420 twice and suspended always for fighting but yeah like it's um that that was the the time right like

01:25:02.780 but you know the one thing i wanted to say with this um when you get into this mindset this

01:25:08.460 mentality uh you feel confident that you can take care of yourself like you really do but i you know

01:25:14.240 i remember when i left the army and i was back in school full time um you know i've always i've

01:25:22.980 studied for years uh and there's a great book on my desk to uh stop teaching our kids to kill

01:25:28.200 um it's about you know active shooters school shooters that type of thing and I did training

01:25:34.700 years ago with a guy in Tabor Alberta named Kevin Cameron uh doing his uh active shooter threat

01:25:41.240 threat assessment uh course amazing really well done so worth it and you know I think when I got

01:25:50.780 into school I mean you combine my life as a child you combine my military training you combine all

01:25:56.300 you know the interest that i have i got into school full for full time and certain times of

01:26:02.400 the year i was concerned that there was going to be an active shooter so you know every time for

01:26:07.520 four years i went to class i was always picking the most optimal seat uh that i could pick because

01:26:12.900 i just didn't know you know and i when i go to the mall i don't go to the mall um and have a good

01:26:21.080 time with my family i'm the guy i'm the bulldog that i'm just there watching the family they're

01:26:26.760 doing the shopping but that's not what i want people to do i want people to i mean tamara you

01:26:32.440 saw it we were in ottawa and that goofball that was bugging you about smoking out front of the uh

01:26:37.240 the building i mean that's that's what i'm looking for that's what i'm that's the way i'm wired i

01:26:42.760 don't want people to be like me i don't i don't want that level of uh mindset but that's what i

01:26:48.680 am now too bad so sad um but you know like another example i have a medically compromised child

01:26:55.960 and so every time i was posted by the military to a new city um i would have to get out the

01:27:02.200 map and start looking for hospitals start looking for train tracks and start looking at the roots

01:27:08.360 from the areas i was interested in living all the way to the hospital because i needed to make sure

01:27:14.680 that at a moment's notice i could get my kid to the hospital right so i had to figure out and

01:27:20.680 analyze all my high-speed routes from my home or the area i was interested to the hospital

01:27:26.600 um and that's hard because you know the nice areas um they're more expensive it was so yeah

01:27:34.120 you know but you you you sort of get to that way of thinking and i i actually put a chapter in the

01:27:40.840 book um i did a whole case study in the book i took it out because i thought maybe i'll i'll

01:27:46.760 do this later in the future but i use this entire same process and i've had many conversations

01:27:53.080 because like i've got a master's degree in business and i've had many officers and said

01:27:59.720 we can take the whole operational planning process and modify it for businesses to deal with uh

01:28:06.760 shocks to the business you know what happens when you can't get fuel what happens when your

01:28:11.880 supply chains run out what happens when um you have a reputational hit or some other thing right

01:28:20.600 so i could apply this whole entire process to my company it doesn't have to be about war fighting

01:28:27.400 or domestic emergencies it's a process it's not a menu it's not a uh you know so you could apply

01:28:35.400 the whole thing and i i thought about actually doing a sequel to this for businesses so it's

01:28:41.240 a good idea maybe maybe someday yeah maybe someday well tom well i definitely wanted

01:28:47.400 for that course if you ever get it going you have um and i'm sorry can you speak about i know that

01:28:53.240 you're hoping to put a big event together i think yeah seven so that's sort of what a goal that

01:28:58.200 you're working on now a big expo so do you want to talk about that a little bit and how people can

01:29:03.160 get involved or help or um i'm looking to do it right here at the uh westerner uh that's where

01:29:11.080 i'd like to do it so i've talked to a number of people about uh putting this on uh and i've

01:29:15.800 started to build my team for people uh to try to work and i've i've been you know i've discussed

01:29:23.000 it with uh nate from canadian prepper he's indicated that he's he's interested uh redmond

01:29:28.760 will be a would be he's he said he'd be a speaker um i'm hoping to get one of our many many lawyer

01:29:35.240 friends to property rights and self-defense during an emergency uh or uh you know a natural

01:29:43.480 emergency or declaration of an emergency or whatever um i know myself i'll speak about

01:29:49.880 the book i'll probably talk about the website uh and i'm gonna have a bunch of vendors there

01:29:54.440 um that are going to so it is a it's an expo about emergency planning and preparedness but

01:30:00.600 also homesteading okay so just remember two things homesteading is not the name the same

01:30:07.060 as prepping okay prepping is based on there's an element of fear in prepping but homesteading

01:30:15.840 is about a way of life like chris is not a prepper he's a homesteader okay and there's

01:30:22.100 another fancy name for that it's called farmer okay so anyway so this is um yeah i and so this

01:30:32.180 is what i'm trying to do is put on a big giant planning and uh preparedness and homesteading

01:30:37.140 expo in red deer and i'm thinking november uh this year um i i know that the west kind

01:30:44.740 of shuts down for the summer so you'll get no participation um and i also know that in october

01:30:51.300 alberta's running into a referendum um and so i don't want to overlap or confuse those two things

01:30:58.420 and i don't want to send the signal to anyone that hey uh you know you got to get ready because the

01:31:04.100 referendum's coming and it's going to devolve i don't want to do that to people it's i i don't

01:31:08.660 want to be a fear monger so this is where i'm looking at doing the two-day expo having uh

01:31:14.980 speakers tracy will wilson said she would participate from the ccfr yeah and i'm i'm

01:31:22.820 hoping i'll get uh amanda lynn mayhew she's a hunter she has her own tv show her own youtube

01:31:30.900 channel i talk to her occasionally so i'm i'm trying to get a really good mixed bag of people

01:31:38.100 i think maybe jeff and rose from gridlessness uh they're out in bc um cabin river outdoors i

01:31:44.980 haven't asked him go ahead did you reach out to luke from the outdoor boys yet because that would

01:31:49.460 be uh he'd be a great guest he'd be great he'd be great my me and my daughter we've been watching

01:31:56.580 him for years we refer to him as the crazy guy after after he dumped one of his kids at night

01:32:02.820 out of the boat into a into the florida everglades um we're like that guy's kind of crazy and i'm

01:32:08.740 surprised he hasn't lost one of them but he's great um and then uh i i text sometimes with um

01:32:16.340 sean james uh he's here in northern ontario he's got an amazing it's one of my favorite channels

01:32:22.900 uh the the bearded woodsman is another friend of mine he's got a big youtube channel so there's

01:32:29.460 people out there that are doing these different interesting things um but yeah i like there's a

01:32:35.860 lot of talented people out there with a lot of knowledge to share that could um it could come

01:32:41.700 and be a part of this this expo but what i don't want to do is this okay this is not a doomsday

01:32:48.340 prepper event this isn't where you know it's it's um yeah oh carla is a great name uh i spoke to her

01:32:57.060 a few weeks ago she'd be a great one to talk to um and so so yeah like it's not about politics

01:33:04.340 it's not terrifying doomsday prepping um it's for everybody i don't care what your politics are

01:33:11.460 what i want is for you if you're a uh you know young young person with a family to

01:33:16.820 retired senior citizen just come out and participate you know and and learn what you can buy

01:33:22.900 some gear uh but make connections because a big part of this and i've always said this is that

01:33:29.940 you don't like there's a reason that wolves travel in packs and it's because lone wolves don't

01:33:36.500 survive they'll get picked off and so my greatest hope is that people will get this book and they'll

01:33:45.620 form a group they'll form a community and i actually have a case study in the book um i've

01:33:51.380 got several uh case studies i would like for people to create clubs or groups uh and then start

01:33:59.940 doing their planning together that i would love to to see happen because if there is an event

01:34:06.580 you just activate your plan and your community comes together and you're stronger as a pack

01:34:13.060 um and and everybody thrives in that case and then maybe you can reach out and start helping

01:34:18.980 other people that unfortunately didn't do what they needed to do and there will definitely be a

01:34:25.300 lot of that yeah yeah yeah we watched a canadian prepper show today where he was buying some

01:34:32.020 some property and um uh in alberta here actually and i made a joke to duane because of course we

01:34:37.380 should be especially with our experience we should be way more prepared but we're not because we our

01:34:42.980 lives have been crazy but i said you know if if he's buying property alberta that i want to be

01:34:47.380 that guy's neighbor yes yeah you do you do um you know and he's got he's got some amazing stuff and

01:34:54.660 he because of the tariffs he shut down his store yes it's unfortunate and the reason like he's

01:35:02.020 he'd been talking about it for quite some time but he shut down his online store he shut down

01:35:05.940 his warehouse he had nine employees um and one of them by the way is a big fan of yours tamara and

01:35:11.860 chris um read all of our books i'll accept yours chris because you haven't read it you haven't

01:35:16.740 written it yet still waiting on that bestseller chris waiting on it yes i'm not i've got somebody

01:35:22.500 helping just coming at the time there's a story there it's coming there's a story yeah like after

01:35:27.620 another yeah yeah no but i i you know i i think build the community and and you don't have to be

01:35:36.740 afraid you just have to make a plan and then come together as a group but this i'll give one little

01:35:44.320 piece of advice with this um if you're going to pick your group pick a weekend and go camping with

01:35:51.900 everybody yes go camping with everyone yeah for a week on a convoy or take them on a convoy and

01:36:00.120 then you're gonna then you'll figure it out yeah test them out test them out and figure out their

01:36:05.780 personalities and figure out who's a doer and who's a talker.

01:36:09.900 Well, I'm thankful that I'm not only that, Tom, but it's, but everybody

01:36:17.900 has different skillsets, like everyone has different talents.

01:36:20.900 So, and that's what we found out with the convoy is identifying who was good

01:36:25.340 at doing what and what we needed, what skillsets we needed in putting

01:36:29.000 the proper people in place.

01:36:30.920 Yes.

01:36:31.460 Yes.

01:36:32.300 And again, you know, to be truthful with that.

01:36:34.980 none of us had legal command authority to tell anyone else what to do okay and this is a this

01:36:42.580 is a big piece of uh like i came to terms with immediately when i got there it's like all i have

01:36:48.260 is my influence this is all people skill stuff i've only got my influence i can't give orders

01:36:55.700 here right and so you just have to hope that what you're trying to do makes sense and people want to

01:37:02.260 want to listen to you and because you're you're logical you're sound and again if you can always

01:37:07.620 be safe and responsible people gravitate towards that okay and if you want to be radical well then

01:37:13.940 you kind of get pushed out on your own okay so we we experienced a lot of that right and so

01:37:20.820 fighting off the the uh the extreme sort of behaviors and the stream thoughts and that's

01:37:26.100 why during the convoy i always said look we don't have any emergencies the only people around here

01:37:32.260 that have emergencies are the police ambulance and fire we've got all the time in the world

01:37:37.700 take a deep breath let's think this through and that became my mantra i said it stop making like

01:37:44.020 i said that to somebody at least once a day oh my gosh and yeah and so this is where i think you

01:37:50.820 know pick your group go camping see who you got and see who socially is going to be that one in

01:37:56.660 ten that disrupts the group because then i would suggest that maybe you know you're not suitable

01:38:02.580 for the group you know there's always that one person and you hope it isn't you because if there

01:38:09.380 it might be you sure that's a good point that's a very good point if there isn't it might be you

01:38:15.140 absolutely well i mean i think that's one of the things that and i spoke a lot about this during

01:38:20.900 our little tour that we were just on because if if we learned one thing there for sure and there

01:38:25.780 was multiple things but you know we didn't need the government to run every single part of our

01:38:31.300 lives and and we took it upon ourselves and basically had like a little mini self-government

01:38:36.180 so you know people that picked up the garbage people that were feeding hungry people you know

01:38:41.060 just see a need fill a need kind of thing and so we really showed that you know as canadians we

01:38:46.900 can take care of this stuff we are not children um that needs to be looked after um we were quite

01:38:53.460 capable of doing this i mean the government should just be getting back to what they should be doing

01:38:57.940 and letting us take care of the rest i mean we did it far more efficiently in ottawa than they ever

01:39:02.900 did the streets were never cleaner there wasn't even cigarette butts on the ground um like the

01:39:08.100 homeless were fed there was no overdose dust in downtown ottawa the whole time we were there which

01:39:13.460 if you've been to downtown ottawa is shocking in another cell yeah every time watch we witnessed

01:39:20.740 it somebody would be on the side of the highway yeah and you know the other thing is i know two

01:39:25.380 instances myself where the truckers gave first aid called an ambulance triage the person gave

01:39:31.620 them first aid and made sure that they got you know taken care of by the ambulance you know that's

01:39:38.100 that happened in two different occasions that I'm aware of.

01:39:41.720 You know, there's a lot of, a lot of positive things that, you know,

01:39:45.100 unless Chris writes a book, nobody's ever going to know.

01:39:48.340 Man. And that was one of the things we were so proud of.

01:39:51.300 We worked with law enforcement to alleviate all those,

01:39:53.320 those emergency lanes all over the city. And I can tell you on,

01:39:57.200 I almost got into three physical altercations with three different

01:40:00.740 protesters who refused to move their vehicle.

01:40:02.840 They thought that they owned the intersection.

01:40:04.540 And I thought if an ambulance comes,

01:40:06.060 has to come down the street and rescue somebody from an emergency i remember i don't know if i've

01:40:11.420 told the story or not before i remember one of the cops his name was louie was it louie louie yep oh

01:40:16.760 yeah yeah yeah yeah he was a bad cop one guy on a street corner that had an intersection blocked

01:40:26.840 i i turned around and i said if you weren't standing here i'd deck this son of a bit you

01:40:32.040 know, and he smiled and turned his back whistling, go do, do, do, do, he was feeling the same

01:40:44.460 way I was, you know, that's how, that's how I, I, I met, uh, Joanna, uh, in fact, two

01:40:51.640 days ago, we got our marriage license, so we're just, we're on the verge of picking

01:40:55.520 a date so i'm pretty stoked about that yeah but you know how i met her this this is a true story

01:41:02.480 i actually met her on twitter uh because she kept popping up on my feeds i had just joined twitter

01:41:09.280 years ago like four over four years ago i just joined twitter she popped up on my feed and she

01:41:15.920 had these weird initials i'm like dmd i'm like what the hell is that and she's a dentist i don't

01:41:21.920 have a dentist. I had an anesthetist, I had nurses, I had carpenters, electricians, I had all the

01:41:27.840 trades. And remember, this is just before the convoy. You know, this is when people like us

01:41:35.360 were being told, you can't get groceries, right? You can't participate in society. So I'm like,

01:41:41.360 geez, I need a dentist, right? Especially for my son. And so I reached out to her and I tried to

01:41:50.240 get a meeting with uh with her and then that's the rest is history so now we're just uh trying

01:41:56.480 to pick a date and i'm pretty pretty excited about it yeah i'm very excited she's an amazing lady

01:42:02.640 tom you're very lucky we're a number she would have to be yeah that's awesome right well that's

01:42:10.720 breaking news everyone congratulations tom that's really that's really exciting i'm really happy for

01:42:15.760 it is thank you yeah okay wow i'm gonna go continue sub-flooring or putting laminate

01:42:26.000 flooring down in the room that i'm working at right now and i wanted to finish that tonight

01:42:30.160 so pleasure having uh spending the time with you guys and everybody else on in the comment section

01:42:35.120 thank you very much for joining us tonight yes thank you i'm going to try to head down and catch

01:42:41.600 i've got uh don hart or dan hartman's the shot is playing here the documentary is playing down

01:42:45.920 at the monarch theory here tonight so i'm going to try to get down there and get some oh good

01:42:49.760 comments and reaction from some of my some of the locals so yeah i saw it a few weeks ago it's uh

01:42:57.200 it's tough to watch but i i saw it a few weeks ago yeah yeah i bet it is yeah thank you and i'm so

01:43:03.760 glad that we did this like i said it's just funny that we have you on all the time and so so i was

01:43:07.680 was like well why don't we have him come on and talk about himself he's been you've been really

01:43:11.520 really busy so yeah yeah i hope you sell some books tonight i know i'm definitely heading to

01:43:17.280 amazon right now and i'll be picking up your newest book uh this evening for sure thank you

01:43:21.600 thank you let us know if you decide to put on any classes online or yes in person i i think

01:43:28.720 that's definitely something i'd be interested in doing yeah i i there is there's a plan in the

01:43:33.360 works for that definitely absolutely it's more fun in person yeah yeah of course of course it is

01:43:40.240 yeah okay well everyone thank you so much for joining us tonight on house arrest and um thank

01:43:46.320 you to chris for for covering while i was gone for the last two weeks i really appreciated that

01:43:58.880 i wanted to mention if you look up in the corner up there you'll see this little logo that tasha

01:44:02.720 designed uh that is pretty cool it's bigger head obviously with the with the wheel lock on it so

01:44:08.400 yeah i mean i love that that looks so cool that's off there tasha yeah it is yeah see we're getting

01:44:14.480 there we're not polished but we're gonna slowly get there about the time there we're done house

01:44:18.560 arrest we'll have this show perfect and down to an art you betcha have a great night everyone sounds

01:44:24.960 good have a great week everyone and we will see you next week i'm not sure what our plan is but

01:44:29.840 but the week after that or the first week in April,

01:44:32.420 we have the lovely Carrie Sakamoto joining us.

01:44:34.960 So I'm looking forward to that one.

01:44:36.600 Have a great week and we will see you next Thursday, everyone.

01:44:39.320 Thanks a lot, Tom.

01:44:40.060 Thanks, Tasha.

01:44:40.660 Bye, Chris.

01:44:41.180 Thank you.

01:44:42.040 Thanks.

House Arrest - March 13, 2026

Ep. 19 Tom Marazzo - Emergency Preparedness

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