House Arrest - May 01, 2026


Ep. 26 - Dr. Francis Christian


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00:00:00.000 I'm receiving therapy, nothing like the road in me, feeling free
00:00:25.840 throttle open engine gulping oil and petroleum i let go of sodium tears and pandemonium just me
00:00:34.640 my ride and the cold wind blowing it
00:00:44.400 love it absolutely love it chris barber well that is going to be our very first
00:00:50.240 big red clip of the week nice you want to do that weekly or what i do a lot of videos with
00:00:55.840 big red when i'm out trucking for the week and i really like it half of the show is big red now
00:01:01.200 and we should at least have one clip of big red every week honestly the big red clip of the week
00:01:06.080 i love it absolutely love it why what's going on well i'm not getting any comments on here
00:01:15.280 why is that working maybe nobody's watching
00:01:22.640 they're slowly coming in here hello everyone welcome to house arrest with chris and tamara
00:01:29.680 episode 26 i can't believe it and i'm super excited for tonight's show i've been waiting
00:01:35.680 uh to have this guest on for a long long time but before thank you christy it is a cool video
00:01:41.840 So before we bring on our guest, we need to do our weekly update on our house arrest.
00:01:48.640 So tell me how your week was.
00:01:52.300 Any problems?
00:01:54.180 No problems.
00:01:55.160 Everything's going good.
00:01:56.960 I was in Prince Albert this week.
00:01:58.780 I was in Innisfail, Alberta.
00:02:00.300 I was in Gravelberg, Saskatchewan.
00:02:01.760 I was in Rose Valley, Saskatchewan today.
00:02:03.620 I met a ton of amazing people along the way.
00:02:06.780 I was headed for Cabry, Saskatchewan with a tractor on for a local farmer.
00:02:10.520 and all the expiry on Big Red for the safety.
00:02:14.460 Commercial vehicles, every six months,
00:02:15.900 the truck has to have a government inspection.
00:02:17.740 So April is the month, so Big Red's going to,
00:02:21.420 I'll go through it tonight after the show here in the shop,
00:02:23.680 and then I'll have it into the shop in the morning
00:02:25.260 and then deliver a tractor after that.
00:02:27.060 So it's been busy.
00:02:28.780 Like, we're just, we're flat out right now,
00:02:31.180 trying really hard to keep everybody patient,
00:02:33.020 and hopefully the snow is gone.
00:02:34.720 We don't want snow anymore, none of this.
00:02:36.680 So it's messed us up.
00:02:37.920 It's got to be so hard with your schedule, too,
00:02:40.140 getting all that arranged with your with your cso right now too hey almost impossible but we work
00:02:45.420 through the cards we've been given right now so we just keep working with it at least i'm out
00:02:49.580 you know giving her and working and and uh yeah it's been it's busy so how about you how was the
00:02:55.100 week well i had quite an amazing week as you can tell uh from my announcement yesterday where i
00:03:01.420 finally got to uh or two days ago now i finally got to take that news public i've been sitting
00:03:06.140 on that lawsuit for a while um so for those of you that don't know i have filed a civil suit
00:03:11.260 against the ottawa city police the ottawa police services board the two homicide detectives assigned
00:03:17.180 to our mischief case of course um i wonder who they upset to get that job um the original crown
00:03:23.980 prosecutor on our case and the attorney general's office of ontario and king charles the third in
00:03:30.300 right of ontario and i am going after them for malicious prosecution and negligent investigation
00:03:36.620 for their actions over the alleged breach charge uh where they came and picked me up in medicine
00:03:42.700 hat and hauled me back to ottawa and chains so um we're not going to get into that too much
00:03:48.460 tonight because there is a bunch there's so much to get into that but chris and i are going to do
00:03:52.380 a special episode of house arrest tomorrow night at 6 p.m to go over the lawsuit talk about the
00:03:58.700 crowdfund talk about all the circumstances relating to uh the breach itself all the events
00:04:04.140 that led up to it it's crazy it's a crazy long story we might have to do a two or three part uh
00:04:10.620 episode or series for that one chris and we'll take questions too we'll take some time to just
00:04:15.580 you know there's probably people with questions that are going to come in so let's we'll just
00:04:18.940 give some time to that i'm glad you know what 49 days in jail some of those two weeks were in in
00:04:26.620 close quarantine because of your non-vaccination status so you were locked up in a single room how
00:04:31.100 many hours a day voluntary confinement for 23 hours and 40 minutes per day when i was originally
00:04:39.020 arrested in ottawa you were led from uh from medicine hat to the airport in calgary in shackles
00:04:45.900 and flown all the way back with two homicide investors i did a video here a few weeks or last
00:04:50.540 week i think it was just about you know the first week of our trial there was a drive-by shooting
00:04:55.580 in downtown ottawa at a somalian wedding and i think i think one person died and a few people
00:05:00.380 were injured pretty badly but the first two weeks of our trial in ottawa there was four homicide
00:05:05.260 investigators present in the room the entire time now the priorities in ottawa catching somebody
00:05:10.860 that has a weapon drive-by shootings or mischief self-explanatory right there too they're too busy
00:05:18.220 going after uh helen gruce anyways to be too much concerned about anything about that's just
00:05:22.940 disgusting i can't believe it i mean especially with especially in light and our guest is going
00:05:27.340 to be able to talk a little bit about this too but helen grues of course is the ottawa police
00:05:30.860 services officer that was investigating um numerous infant deaths in ottawa um and of course
00:05:39.420 there was one common thread between the parents and everyone that was involved and
00:05:44.620 um she's being raped over the calls for it by her own people the very people that are supposed to
00:05:49.100 have her back her brothers and sisters um and they are tossing that poor woman to the wolves
00:05:56.060 and we've met helen a few times so she's an amazing lady and she was
00:06:01.740 when when are people going to open their eyes to just how vindictive this government is
00:06:05.900 government government agencies you name it so our guests tonight
00:06:13.420 sorry other than that um i'm working on a variation order with my probation officer to
00:06:18.060 start traveling for work internationally and um i just got my six month report card and i'm doing
00:06:25.020 really good actually i shouldn't say that she's got one more person to talk to which is my husband
00:06:29.180 and so we'll see how how my report card is after she talks to him but i'm sure he'll i'm sure he'll
00:06:34.860 give me a glowing review um but yeah just you know really happy that um she's happy with my progress
00:06:40.700 i've got my community service hours done i'm volunteering three times a week at the food bank
00:06:44.940 adhering to all of my conditions so so i'm really hopeful that we'll be able to get this variation
00:06:51.220 order in place um to allow me to do some travel some more travel for work out of the country
00:06:56.360 um before we bring on our guest i just want to remind everyone that we are monetized now we're
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00:07:12.200 now on rumble thank you to tasha for getting that all set up as well as we have a new sub stack
00:07:17.560 tasha set that up also what did you do before tasha i don't even know um so yeah there's lots
00:07:23.160 of exciting things happening um we're almost at 7 000 subscribers um which is amazing so
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00:07:35.400 friends uh we are having a ball and we hope that you are too plus we get to platform some amazing
00:07:42.920 people and with no further ado i'm going to uh i wrote this all out because there's really there's
00:07:49.960 a lot of big words so i'm going to introduce our guest then we have a little clip to play
00:07:55.000 and then we are going to bring um on our guest dr francis christian dr francis christian is a
00:08:01.160 retired general surgeon a former clinical professor of general surgery at the university of saskatchewan
00:08:08.520 in 2021 after speaking out against the rushed covid19 vaccination program for children and
00:08:14.440 adolescents he was not advocating against them he was advocating that we pump the brakes and get
00:08:20.520 some more information only at that point please pardon me um dr francis was suspended from his
00:08:28.760 academic work at the university over claims the quote college of medicine has received information
00:08:35.640 that you are encouraging in activities to discourage and prevent children and adolescents
00:08:41.880 from receiving the covet 19 vaccinations contrary to the recommendations and pandemic response
00:08:49.240 efforts of saskatchewan and canadian public health in a now famous phone meeting between dr francis
00:08:56.840 and some of the faculty actually it was dr brian almer who was the head of department of surgery
00:09:03.800 at the u of s dr susan shaw who was the chief medical officer at the saskatchewan health
00:09:08.040 authority and dr dean preston smith um they you'll hear in this phone call exactly how this went down
00:09:16.680 and i think you're probably going to feel the same way about it as i did here we go second thing
00:09:22.920 that is really important to me is that you do take care of yourself through this process this is
00:09:31.560 a stressful process and an unfortunate process that has been made necessary by
00:09:39.080 by the actions to date but it is still still stressful and difficult so so in that realm
00:09:47.240 there are many supports available to you and particularly the physician health program
00:09:56.600 i just have to say something i'm speaking well and i will finish speaking and then you can speak
00:10:03.640 i i have to say that i'm not distressed i will finish speaking and then you can speak i'm not
00:10:08.760 distressed at all i would i will understand you don't have to shout over me that that's your
00:10:15.480 choice but i simply want to make sure you know those supports are available to you well i'm not
00:10:21.240 distressed at all uh it's it's good to be on on the right side of history and to go to sleep with
00:10:27.640 a good conscience i i'm thinking you guys must be really distressed because you're going against
00:10:32.920 science you're going against the who and you are trying to essentially sense you're you're basically
00:10:40.280 doing your best to censor and to silence and to muzzle, intimidate, and essentially physicians,
00:10:51.480 scientists, and people around the world who are calling for adolescents and children not to be
00:10:58.440 vaccinated. The very fact that you don't know, let me finish, because I know that you all want
00:11:03.620 jump in and cut me off. The very fact that you don't know that the WHO came out on Monday morning
00:11:11.120 with the recommendation not to vaccinate 18 and under shows that you're living in a dystopian
00:11:18.700 bubble. You're only speaking to echo chambers. You don't know the level of support I have. You
00:11:24.860 don't know how many surgeons, physicians, scientists in Saskatchewan across Canada who
00:11:31.300 have reached out to me in support you just don't know you're you're you're living a fantasy world
00:11:36.840 of self-congratulatory messages uh it's really shameful so i think francis this is why we're
00:11:44.920 so concerned about you and because this appears to me to be a change in the way that you see the
00:11:50.560 world i've read the world health organization statement i read it this morning in preparation
00:11:55.520 for this meeting to make sure that I had as much information I've read the p-hack I've read
00:12:01.480 everything I'm very concerned about your ability to clearly see what's happening and what's happening
00:12:07.740 and what others may be doing with you and to you to take advantage of your position
00:12:12.280 you're a highly intelligent man well thank you thank you for you're not making intelligent
00:12:19.780 decisions, not interpreting literature or behaving in a way that makes me understand
00:12:25.600 that you understand how to navigate a scientific debate.
00:12:29.800 So this is why it's important that we reiterate, please reach out to the SMA health program
00:12:35.860 to ensure that you have supports that you may not realize or think that you need right
00:12:39.780 now, but they offer amazing support that's confidential and that we will not learn about.
00:12:44.820 I would recommend that you get those supports because I predict you'll be needing them very
00:12:48.760 soon.
00:12:49.780 unbelievable i give dr francis so much credit for keeping his cool through that whole thing
00:12:58.020 and without further ado help us in welcoming our good friend dr francis christian to house arrest
00:13:03.060 welcome thank you chris thank you tamara it's uh wonderful to see you all likewise one of the one
00:13:12.580 of the fondest memories was meeting you in downtown ottawa and and part of the the doctors that
00:13:17.220 actually showed up there to try and stand up against the government and dispute and to have
00:13:23.060 a conversation and what did those government officials do ignored you just like they just
00:13:27.680 did on that last call it was disgusting you know i am you were literally one of the first
00:13:36.320 of course throughout that whole period i mean i was trying to find podcasts any type of show
00:13:42.980 anyone that was speaking about the other side of what was going on and it was your it was byram
00:13:49.820 bridal's case originally that led me to you and then i believe it was at the at the one of the
00:13:54.980 saskatchewan high schools you guys did a press conference and i emailed trish woods after hearing
00:13:59.720 what happened to you right out of the blue and i said trish i just watched your show on dr bridal
00:14:04.320 you got to get a hold of dr francis christian right away you'll not believe what's happening
00:14:07.880 out here and she replied back to me and said he's on on friday and i've been following your story
00:14:14.040 ever since so thank you for everything that you've done everything that you and your family have
00:14:18.840 sacrificed um all to protect our children and our youth and all all canadians thank you
00:14:27.240 that's very kind of you tamara and chris and thanks again for having me on
00:14:31.640 As I said to you when we were meeting just before the show, I want this to be mainly about you and not about me, because compared to what the Freedom Convoy and what you have accomplished for Canadians and the world, what I did was actually quite insignificant.
00:14:55.680 so thank thank you for your kind words but it but but but the real heroes are
00:15:02.040 are you respectfully disagree my friend you were speaking out long before those
00:15:10.320 trucks rolled you did your part and you've still been standing your ground
00:15:14.560 on that you haven't bowed to any of this tyrannical garbage has been going on in
00:15:19.260 this country and I you're a true friend and an amazing human being your family
00:15:24.020 amazing i've met them i think i've met everybody haven't i yes yes yeah and just to stand with you
00:15:31.860 and i have to make sure you know that because i value your friendship and i value you we were in
00:15:35.940 ottawa and i was uh i was pretty sick with you the you know what and i did an interview and in my
00:15:41.780 hotel room the door knocked and dr christian was there and he said chris i just need to i'm going
00:15:46.020 to give you a look over because i don't think you're feeling very good right now and and you
00:15:49.780 tended to my medical needs and and uh followed through on a vitamin of a vitamin regimen i
00:15:54.660 believe it was right and uh and within no time flat it was uh i was feeling better so i'll always
00:16:00.980 remember that that was an amazing day and my wife of course having issues too you uh you right away
00:16:06.740 just ran to her to see what you could do to help so we appreciate you and likewise yeah go ahead
00:16:13.700 dr francis i was just going to say that you know um for a physician to help somebody in need and
00:16:23.540 especially somebody dear and near to me uh like you both are is something i would uh expect myself
00:16:30.980 to do i i i i'm i'm really grateful to god that i was able to be of help uh i um i i once again
00:16:40.340 coming back to the freedom convoy um i i don't believe that most canadians still know or still
00:16:50.500 realize what the freedom convoy has accomplished for canadians and for the world because at a at
00:16:57.780 a very dark time for uh canadians and for humanity um the freedom convoy rolled into
00:17:07.300 ottawa like a like a cavalry like a cavalry with um with this message of hope and this message that
00:17:17.860 peaceful peaceful non-violent civil disobedience is much more powerful than all the all the tyranny
00:17:28.420 that tyrants can can unleash and you know what i'm going to recount is well known to you
00:17:39.380 but again i don't know how much canadians realize they owe to you because within a few days of your
00:17:48.740 coming to ottawa major seismic political changes were already accomplished in ottawa
00:17:56.420 the conservative government had changed its leader.
00:18:02.680 Some brave conservative politicians,
00:18:06.500 including, I believe, the present leader of the opposition,
00:18:09.320 came out to meet the convoy and were filmed doing so.
00:18:14.660 And then, if you look around the world,
00:18:19.920 by God's great grace and mercy, you are still standing,
00:18:24.520 and you're standing tall.
00:18:26.420 but but but the the tyrant trudeau is gone that that that lady who was the uh prime minister
00:18:36.020 of the gulag down under i.e uh new zealand i forget her name yeah anyway she's gone that bumbling
00:18:46.500 Prime Minister of England, Boris Johnson, is gone. Within a few days of you guys reaching
00:18:57.440 Ottawa, the Saskatchewan government lifted the mandates. So what changed between the
00:19:04.080 day the mandates were in place, all the mandates, all the lockdowns, and then the next day the
00:19:10.400 mandates were lifted? What changed? I mean, what was the science behind, you know, did
00:19:15.000 virus go into hiding or no it was it was because of the freedom convoy and so uh as for me what i
00:19:24.040 was doing in that press conference which was held um outside well outside the school in a public
00:19:31.640 space actually right yes but but what i was asking for is very simple i was i was essentially asking
00:19:40.200 for informed consent informed consent is essentially where the physician or the nurse
00:19:47.880 or anybody who's administering a medical intervention has to explain to the patient
00:19:54.840 or in this case children children's parents what the risks of the interventions are
00:20:03.720 what the benefits of the interventions are and what the alternatives are and i made the point
00:20:11.880 that this was not being explained to saskatchewan the people i made the point that uh that in
00:20:20.920 children uh covid is less dangerous than the annual flu uh that's what the statistics show
00:20:29.960 No. COVID, a child is more likely to die of drowning or a car accident than of COVID.
00:20:38.200 A child was 1,000 times less at risk of COVID than somebody who was elderly.
00:20:46.320 And so there was no emergency in children.
00:20:50.280 Data from Spain had already shown that actually teachers were getting less COVID than the rest of the population.
00:20:58.520 So, there was no question of the children infecting other people. So, there was really no case for vaccinating a child. And not only that, there were already emerging reports, even at that time, of myocarditis in children.
00:21:16.000 Unfortunately, there are thousands of children with myocarditis now.
00:21:21.220 I know many of them.
00:21:25.380 And myocarditis has become one of the things that is associated with the injection, the COVID injection.
00:21:35.500 And so, my point was essentially that, look, we know that this is not a threat to children. We know that it is causing problems. We know that there are alternatives available.
00:21:53.220 Well, even at that time, there were alternatives available.
00:21:59.320 And to qualify for emergency use authorization, as it was in Canada, there must be an emergency.
00:22:06.160 And there was no emergency in children.
00:22:08.480 Children were of no danger to adults.
00:22:11.900 And by that time, there were thousands of deaths attributable to the vaccine on VAERS and other reports.
00:22:19.260 And that myocarditis was a serious condition.
00:22:23.040 this was a this was a new gene technology that had never been clinically used on a on a on a scale
00:22:30.640 before and the risk of the vaccine for your healthy child was likely more than the risk of
00:22:37.840 covid itself now that was the and there were alternatives available too because even at that
00:22:42.720 time there were things like uh ivermectin hydroxychloroquine uh and other things ivermectin
00:22:51.680 particularly was very safe and if it was very safe there was no reason why uh it was actually
00:22:58.080 the safety profile was safer than tylenol and so if it was that safe there was no reason for
00:23:04.000 withholding it from people but all this information uh essentially has to be given
00:23:12.400 before the vaccine was administered and what was particularly alarming to me is that 13 year olds
00:23:19.360 and above in saskatchewan could consent to get the injection without parental consent
00:23:26.880 so which now you know i i have tried to simplify the risks benefits alternatives as much as
00:23:34.160 possible but which 13 year old you know can understand everything i'm saying about the medical
00:23:39.440 risk benefits alternatives i don't know of many 13 year olds who can who can give consent and so
00:23:46.080 my whole uh uh thing was let's give a pause to this by that time germany had already said
00:23:54.400 we're not going to recommend this for children so what was the the the need to rush into this
00:24:00.320 for children and that that was the context of my press conference yes yes and you were just
00:24:07.600 completely vilified for it there's nothing that you just said there is nothing that you just said
00:24:12.720 that um is controversial or should be controversial um you know that's that's um that could be
00:24:20.160 misinterpreted as anything other than you trying to do your job absolutely best of your ability
00:24:26.560 you know and and to prevent this from happening to prevent this from happening to other people
00:24:31.760 and you know one of one of the uh one of the guys uh who uh who dissented from the mid well you
00:24:43.120 would call it the majority opinion but actually a lot of doctors felt the way i did and a lot of
00:24:49.240 other physicians did but just didn't speak out uh unfortunately um but one of those who did speak
00:24:56.020 out by the way at that time everybody was talking about a consensus of scientific opinion but if
00:25:02.900 there is dissent of the majority view then you can't call it a consensus uh so there was never
00:25:09.540 a consensus about what was having happening in covet there was never a consensus about lockdowns
00:25:14.420 and one of the uh fiercest opponents of the lockdowns was a guy who's a very good friend
00:25:20.420 of mine i had uh i had lunch with him in nova scotia not so long ago and he's uh he's a stanford
00:25:29.140 professor uh jay butacharya and he's now the head of the national institutes of health so
00:25:35.940 the tables have turned uh slowly they're still turning um i think there are still people who
00:25:43.300 you know believe that the injection was the best thing uh next to sliced bread but the the data is
00:25:51.460 screaming out against them uh the the the the injection did not prevent covid it didn't prevent
00:25:58.660 it from spreading it wasn't safe and it wasn't effective and so it it might have made sense for
00:26:04.980 elderly people where you know 80 to 90 percent of the mortality were in really elderly people and
00:26:11.780 it might have made sense there but for children absolutely not absolutely not healthy children
00:26:19.060 don't need the vaccine and i and you know i was gratified by god's great grace and mercy
00:26:27.300 after our press conference there were a lot of mothers who did not give the injection to their
00:26:35.220 children and if even one child is saved in an unnecessary job it was worth it totally 100 worth
00:26:44.980 it yeah and chris and i talk a lot about that just in the people alone that we talked to that
00:26:49.940 you know have told us that they were planning to take their own lives before this all started
00:26:53.460 it was totally worth it um when i remember telling my lawyer dr francis i don't know if you read it
00:27:00.100 but you know what before we went into sentencing i had a meeting with my lawyer and of course he
00:27:04.900 says you know when you're sentenced the judge is going to ask you if you want to get up and perhaps
00:27:09.140 express some remorse or something and i said i said who am i going to apologize to lawrence um
00:27:16.180 do i apologize to um the people that there have hurt feelings because there was horns honking or
00:27:23.620 you know that were inconvenienced that they couldn't get their uber eats on in fast enough
00:27:27.860 or do i apologize to everyone that got their jobs back or the people that didn't take their
00:27:32.740 own lives i will never apologize for saving or participating in something that helped to save a
00:27:38.260 single life yeah i mean uh i i've always maintained and i had a substack on this not so long ago
00:27:47.700 that civil disobedience the civil disobedience is peaceful non-violent uh opposition to tyranny
00:27:55.700 and civil disobedience is what was the trucker's convoy it was peaceful it was non-violent and it
00:28:05.320 was in opposition to tyranny and i have always maintained that civil disobedience needs three
00:28:13.760 things to succeed one is it has to be persistent it has to be over several days and weeks it can't
00:28:21.480 be, you know, 50,000 people gathering in the park, shouting a few slogans and going home for the next
00:28:28.300 six months. It has to be done again and again and again over several days and weeks, and that was
00:28:34.300 the trucker's freedom convoy. Secondly, a civil disobedience movement, peaceful, non-violent,
00:28:42.420 I stress that, peaceful, non-violent, and yours was peaceful and non-violent, it has to inconvenience
00:28:50.420 and embarrass the authorities um you know um again if people march down um you know ottawa
00:29:00.020 once in six months even if there's 100 000 people we know that they can easily be ignored
00:29:05.940 and the press the the the arm of tyranny is the press and the press can also ignore it
00:29:13.700 so it has to embarrass and inconvenience the government it did that uh you know the
00:29:20.500 the the prime minister at that time the heavily vaccinated prime minister got coveted again
00:29:25.540 and went into hiding uh yeah i don't know what really happened whether he got covered or
00:29:30.900 i don't know what happened but uh he went into hiding uh the the the embarrassment
00:29:36.580 was not just national uh it to the to the elites to the to the to the to the global elites it was
00:29:44.340 also international it started being reported in england and in australia and germany and india
00:29:49.780 and china and so on and so um so the second condition for successful civil disobedience
00:29:56.180 was satisfied uh it should embarrass and inconvenience the tyranny and the third
00:30:02.580 probably the most important was that there should be a readiness to sacrifice and Tamara you are the
00:30:09.540 you're the uh Canadian Gandhi because you by your sacrifice and you know every time you went back
00:30:18.260 into prison the movement for freedom became stronger and and so uh Mahatma Gandhi spent um
00:30:26.820 several years in prison. Martin Luther King Jr. spent several years in prison. And, you know, that made the movement stronger. Of course, now behind me is the wall fresco of the martyrs of Lyon, France.
00:30:50.120 in the year 177 the roman emperor marcus aurelius subjected them to horrific torture
00:31:00.380 thrown before beasts tortured to almost their life going out and then brought back to their
00:31:06.920 cells and then and tortured again and all they said when questioned and asked to give away
00:31:13.820 information about their christian friends all they would say is i am a christian now 48 of them
00:31:21.880 now they're all saints including saint bland blandina and so on and that's the fresco that
00:31:29.340 shows part of uh the the part of the the group of the holy martyrs of of leon but the the the
00:31:38.080 reason i put that up behind me is you know in leon today at the site where all these torches
00:31:46.000 took place there is a cathedral a massive cathedral so the glory that was greece and
00:31:54.480 the grandeur that was rome had to yield to the triumph of the cross and of course the greatest
00:32:00.960 triumph uh was uh our lord jesus himself who turned the worst thing that could possibly happen
00:32:08.400 to him that is the cross into the best thing for mankind which is the resurrection so uh sacrifice
00:32:17.440 is is is always in in in in this context associated with eternal success and
00:32:26.960 these values that you fought for are eternal values freedom truth uh and and freedom of expression
00:32:34.880 which is a a function of uh of freedom itself so um i think what you've accomplished will be
00:32:43.280 written in the annals of human history for a long time well already there's a massive wikipedia very
00:32:51.360 biased entry about this whole thing but yes but you know but that's all changing it you know yeah
00:32:57.920 these these are all these are all temporary things but the fight for freedom is eternal
00:33:03.840 agreed and you know you were there with us in ottawa at the beginning too and i was literally
00:33:09.040 just talking about this on an interview i did today like you know it didn't matter um everyone
00:33:14.800 in the convoy whether they were a believer or weren't a believer that i spoke to understood
00:33:20.000 or felt that there was something that was guiding us and protecting us and there absolutely was
00:33:24.560 um you know chris led that convoy across the country without a single accident or an injury
00:33:30.560 in the middle of january across northern lake superior i mean you know there were so many
00:33:38.020 miracles that happened that whole time and and you know like you said even when i got arrested
00:33:42.740 i was like okay god you're not done with me yet like you have you have used us to expose so much
00:33:47.780 and show Canadians and the world what they really needed to see
00:33:52.500 and what's really going on.
00:33:53.740 You know, if you're not done with me yet, that's okay
00:33:55.680 because, you know, he's got my back and I can take it.
00:33:59.880 And, you know, here we are still fighting.
00:34:02.840 You could feel it.
00:34:04.220 There was something about Convoy that you could feel
00:34:06.840 and you just felt like you were in the presence
00:34:09.500 and you were being watched over.
00:34:11.700 And then after Convoy, when we put through all this lawfare
00:34:14.780 and the government and threatening to throw us in jail for eight years,
00:34:17.780 there's been a peace around us and you're going to remember the one thing you know melissa mckee
00:34:22.100 bikers church in ottawa says god will never give you anything more than you can handle
00:34:27.060 and that's 100 because it's been there right from day one it's it's a piece um
00:34:34.820 but not only that um he also prepares you for things later on in life like i mean i had no
00:34:41.780 idea why i was involved in any of them i didn't even know you before chris no and but looking
00:34:47.780 back over my life experiences like good experiences challenging experiences bad choices i made good
00:34:55.300 choices i made i can see now how they all came together even my careers that i had um you know
00:35:02.580 all came together and and now i understand so many things even in the before that i didn't
00:35:08.500 understand god why are you doing this to me well now i get it you know so yeah it was beautiful
00:35:14.980 it was a beautiful time and i have to say you know like chris said at the start of the show
00:35:19.940 one of the biggest moments for me and we talked about this a few for a few minutes prior but
00:35:24.820 one of the biggest most profound moments for me during the convoy was the same thing was when
00:35:29.460 you know chris and i were both sick he was way more sick than i was um and i remember you and
00:35:36.020 your wife your wife gave me tea and a cookie and you are you writing out you know how to take these
00:35:40.740 vitamins on ziploc bags that's the last time i've seen a doctor by the way was here and because i
00:35:48.980 just don't know about that but that's a topic for another time but i remember you know as i'm
00:35:53.860 watching you do this i remember just thinking you know if i look out the window right now i'm gonna
00:35:58.500 see bombed out poland this is the state of canada right now where we're in a hotel room and i'm
00:36:05.380 getting vitamins you know written out you know on a ziploc bag yeah i mean uh if you're talking
00:36:13.060 about poland and that's another example how of how civil disobedience can bring down tyrannies
00:36:22.980 like walensa who was a dock worker in communist poland have you noticed why the press avoids
00:36:31.300 talking about communism today uh they talk about a whole lot of other things you know uh they talk
00:36:37.220 about uh about hitler and nazism uh and and we don't want any of the the the the the the really
00:36:49.300 evil things that happen towards uh the end of the third reich we we don't want that ever repeated
00:36:57.140 but communism actually killed a lot more people than the germans did uh and and killed uh killed
00:37:05.700 hundreds of thousands of of of priests like kills hundreds of thousands of um of believers
00:37:14.020 millions of believers actually in in uh the the great um um soviet uh russian i should say because
00:37:21.540 soviet means i mean it's associated with communism but the great russian author nobel prize winner
00:37:28.180 alexander solzhenitsyn uh in his book he he writes that 60 million people were killed
00:37:36.020 uh by the communists the soviet union 60 million and poland was also part of that soviet union
00:37:42.740 and and so and and and here's the here's the wonderful thing about civil disobedience
00:37:49.540 it started as a small movement uh just as your just as the truckers convoy started as
00:37:56.580 you know just you know a few of you a few of the trucks and then it it the the the the
00:38:04.980 movement became stronger the trucks became more numerous they started rolling towards ottawa
00:38:12.100 trucks joined in from other parts of the country like that the mo the the the protests in in
00:38:18.420 poland grew bigger and bigger and bigger and finally the communist government fell so uh you
00:38:24.500 know um trudeau's gone yeah what can i say what's astronaut living happily one of the reasons he
00:38:35.060 became so unpopular and uh and unfortunately became one of the most hated uh leaders in the
00:38:42.180 world is because of the the tyranny unleashed uh during the freedom convoy and and you have to go
00:38:51.300 yeah and he really showed his true colors i mean for all his breathless pandering and virtue
00:38:56.980 signaling and holier than now this and holier than now that i mean they certainly showed their
00:39:02.180 true colors and then of course you know as we saw the evidence come out of the public order emergency
00:39:07.220 commission where a lot of this was planned before i even shook chris barber's hand before i even met
00:39:12.180 him the pmo and the public safety minister's office were already colluding together and with
00:39:17.940 with um mainstream media we have the texts you know you've probably seen christia freeland's
00:39:23.540 handwritten notes i think she needs to see a psychiatrist with notes her handwriting is
00:39:29.380 deeply disturbing um but you know you can see how they they were all she's gone too she's gone
00:39:36.980 she's gone too she's living her best life in the ukraine yes she's made off of all of our ukrainian
00:39:44.500 with with the russian missiles flying nearer years yeah it's yeah but anyway she's she's gone
00:39:51.300 trudeau's gone exactly yeah um this this comment scares me a little bit but this is a true story
00:39:58.180 here too trudeau's gone the replacement worse worse educated worse carney yeah well you know
00:40:06.580 yeah the the the the fight for freedom goes on and on and and and so um there's nothing to fear
00:40:16.260 because uh because christ has conquered everything for us including death so i i'm i'm pretty sure
00:40:24.980 that in the years and decades and centuries to come uh the freedom convoy will be uh will will
00:40:32.660 be held up as an example right next to uh you know like valensa and and even mark gandhi's uh
00:40:41.940 movement for freedom and so on and and to me um it it may seem that canadians are uh are are blasé
00:40:53.060 and almost uh indifferent to freedom and it seems like that for the majority of canadians
00:41:00.260 but that can change that can change and and and i'm an optimist and so um you know i'm i'm hoping
00:41:08.820 for for a different canada and a different um you know these are values for which people have laid
00:41:17.620 down their lives freedom of speech that's right freedom of speech freedom from tyranny um freedom
00:41:25.780 to move many of the things in the charter of rights and freedoms these are things that didn't
00:41:31.940 originate with the charter of rights and freedom freedom the charter of rights and freedoms is the
00:41:40.180 last in canada of a line of of of the history of the defense of freedom because you don't get
00:41:50.020 these freedoms when you go to china or the middle east you get this because of the impact of christ
00:41:56.020 on the christian centuries for for hundreds of years and so uh people have actually given their
00:42:02.820 lives for freedoms like this so they're worth fighting for and thank you for fighting straight
00:42:09.140 you know you're facing eight years in federal prison and both tamara and i are in her 50s now
00:42:13.140 you know you know if they got eight years or you know whatever it was originally asking for 10
00:42:19.060 um that would be basically in your life but when i'm when i'm all trucking with bigger ed
00:42:24.500 dr christian i i meet people at every single stop i had a uh you know one of the one of the bigger
00:42:29.700 farmers in saskatchewan come up with me today drove out of his way um just to shake my hand
00:42:34.740 and when he shook my hand he had tears in his eyes um just to try and say thank you and those those
00:42:40.180 conversations they hit pretty hard i feel you know we had an impact on a lot of people and i don't
00:42:45.540 think i even can comprehend just how many people we've we've touched in a positive way so i'm
00:42:52.220 thankful thank you for what you did thank you for what you did thank you thank you thank you for
00:42:58.160 what you're continuing to do um and for flying the flag of freedom there's no i in team that's
00:43:06.680 right there is no i in team that's right chris have a saying all the way to ottawa keep your
00:43:11.340 eye on the prize and even though we didn't know maybe the prize was this far down the football
00:43:15.980 field um you know we're still keeping our eye on the prize and you know i'm really proud of chris
00:43:21.800 how he's handled himself through this whole thing i think especially because some of us have been
00:43:27.680 placed uh you know more highly visible thank you to the mainstream media and the justice system
00:43:33.320 really they they're the ones that are making us famous um you know it's important because we're
00:43:39.720 I feel in part like we are representing a large part of society, a lot of people that supported us.
00:43:47.440 And so, you know, I try to dress nice when I go to court.
00:43:50.060 I try to always be respectful.
00:43:51.520 And so does Chris, you know, try to, you know, do good things.
00:43:55.240 I'm volunteering at the food bank.
00:43:56.640 I love helping people.
00:43:57.620 And so I think it's really important to, like you just said, continue to be optimistic.
00:44:02.460 I've never really been a pessimist.
00:44:04.500 i mean i can be a realist sometimes and i can get frustrated and upset and pissed off just like
00:44:09.540 everybody else but you know life's too short to be miserable and really when you look at chris and
00:44:15.400 myself and you get to know us as you have i mean you can see how just utterly insane it is at the
00:44:22.420 way that they're coming after us which tells me that we did everything right and that we are still
00:44:27.940 flying right over the target they're trying to appeal they're trying to appeal our sentences
00:44:33.060 right now of course they want they still want me in jail for seven years and chris in jail for eight
00:44:37.460 they're appealing our acquittals on our intimidation charges um and i i can't remember
00:44:43.420 if they're appealing those other two charges chris but you know so it just goes to show you
00:44:47.700 um especially when you're reading in the papers every day about non-canadian citizens who are
00:44:53.840 getting conditional discharges on for violent crimes absolute discharges for violent crimes
00:44:59.280 having their charges stayed or dropped so it doesn't affect their immigration process and
00:45:04.960 i'm not talking about mischiefs i mean or you know stealing a candy bar from a store we're talking
00:45:11.440 some pretty serious violence crimes or threats of violent crime and so it's really apparent that
00:45:17.120 there's a two-tier justice system in this country but you know that's just another thing that we're
00:45:21.200 continuing to expose because every time one of these cases hits the mainstream and it almost
00:45:26.400 seems like it's every day now people pay attention and i i don't know about chris but i can tell you
00:45:33.120 a lot of the messages that i get now from people um are messages of i'm sorry i misjudged you i'm
00:45:41.440 sorry i believed what the mainstream media was saying um i don't support what you did but after
00:45:46.560 seeing what's happening to you this isn't right and and i think at the end of the day dr francis
00:45:51.760 that's all that we can really hope for we can never force anybody to see your point of view
00:45:56.800 or believe the way that we believe all we can ask for is some empathy and some understanding
00:46:02.480 and for goodness sake some compassion and uh and and always remember you have been persecuted
00:46:11.920 for canadians you went to prison for canadians for the nation and uh and and gandhi had that
00:46:19.920 feeling too that he was carrying the weight of the nation on his shoulders and that's why i said that
00:46:25.680 you both are gandian figures because you used civil disobedience peaceful non-violent to bring about
00:46:36.880 massive change and and who would have thought that this would this thing that that that overturned
00:46:44.480 the tyranny uh would have started in canada right you know this this this cold and almost forgotten
00:46:53.360 uh second largest nation in the world uh i mean there were so many things happening in in in
00:47:00.160 western well the tyranny if you have note if you noticed was mainly in the rich countries uh the
00:47:08.080 yes in in in africa where hardly any you know those nations where hardly anybody had proper
00:47:16.080 health care uh but nobody or almost nobody took the injection and nobody wore masks uh they had
00:47:23.760 the lowest debts from uh covet so uh the the the tyranny or the lockdowns the mandates and all that
00:47:32.720 were in in in in rich nations and and and the and and everybody knows now that the the the the so
00:47:42.560 called pandemic um you know there was certainly a virus about and and people died uh but this
00:47:50.880 pandemic made 20 i think that the last count 20 billionaires of the pharmaceutical companies
00:47:59.200 so a lot of people got rich and and at a time when nobody expected it
00:48:06.320 uh the tyranny was brought to its knees by a peaceful uh non-violent civil disobedience
00:48:13.120 movement in of all countries in canada because it was after this that the whole thing started
00:48:20.240 snowballing around the world i mean of course it started in saskatchewan more for some reason
00:48:25.200 And people here tell me that he got scared because a lot of trucks also went to return.
00:48:31.980 Yes.
00:48:33.420 I don't know exactly what his reasoning was, but one day the virus was there.
00:48:38.320 The next day, I don't know where it went, but all the mandates were gone.
00:48:42.120 And then soon after Alberta and then Quebec and Ontario and America and Britain.
00:48:52.480 And it rolled around the world.
00:48:54.300 You know, and who would have thought that it would start in Canada?
00:48:59.460 So this wonderful and beautiful movement for freedom was God's way of saying that, you know what, I can do unexpected things in a very powerful way.
00:49:14.500 do you like how i went when the when the mandates were being dropped or lifted do you like how they
00:49:21.160 gave us a date that we could look forward to having our friends back because the virus was
00:49:26.420 the virus was going to be here up until you know march 24th but after that it's going to go away
00:49:32.240 and whatever happened to covid it's it's you know a story about you know you talking about the the
00:49:36.920 younger people in the in the vaccine jonathan my son was 18 years old when convoy happened and
00:49:41.860 Jonathan was in the truck with I and Tamara on our way to Ottawa.
00:49:45.640 We were both sick.
00:49:46.660 I was the sickest, like Tamara said, out of the three of us.
00:49:50.000 Jonathan wasn't vaccinated.
00:49:51.300 He felt like, you know, he basically took your advice there.
00:49:53.880 I don't need it.
00:49:54.460 I've got a natural immunity to this stuff, and I don't need this vaccine.
00:49:59.240 And that kid has never had a sniffle.
00:50:01.100 He spent the entire three, four days in the cab of the truck with two people with COVID,
00:50:05.480 and he never got sick.
00:50:07.120 Not once.
00:50:07.740 yeah you know uh the in i believe it was november of 2021 there was a big study from germany 80
00:50:16.220 million people not a single child had died of covet not a single child 80 million people
00:50:24.700 yeah and and this this was repeated across the world and and you know the fact is by the time
00:50:32.060 that the the vaccine was recommended for children they already knew two things they already knew that
00:50:39.580 it is of absolutely no relevance to children who are of uh you know statistically zero risk of
00:50:48.220 dying from covet statistically and they knew that there was already reports starting in israel and
00:50:56.700 other places of myocarditis in in children so for a disease that does supposedly was dangerous but
00:51:08.140 was actually about 1000 times less dangerous than in uh elderly people didn't kill a single child
00:51:16.860 in among 80 million people in germany um in for that um children got myocarditis
00:51:24.940 by the injection how is that uh so i do think there should be accountability uh i i don't you
00:51:33.420 know i don't i don't hate the people who did this i uh in many ways i pity them uh and i i'm sorry
00:51:42.780 for them uh i i i but i do want for the sake of science for the sake of those who have given their
00:51:50.860 lives in the pursuit of science and truth which i think most scientists and physicians like myself
00:51:56.860 have done i do think it should be a proper accountability exercise not not to you know
00:52:05.660 not to sort of point fingers and and and and sort of come down with all kinds of draconian
00:52:12.300 punishments and so on but so that the truth comes out and then the consequences for that
00:52:18.540 uh you know let the courts decide it i mean we don't want vigilante justice i don't i don't i
00:52:27.020 don't hate these people at all i i i think they uh they did some some terrible things um for which
00:52:36.140 there should be accountability i mean terrible things in the sense of of opposing science
00:52:41.580 opposing truth locking people down when there was no evidence for lockdowns asking people not to go
00:52:46.940 out not to go out and stay in their houses and things like that on what did they base that
00:52:54.460 evidence uh on the on that that on what evidence did they base that that draconian policy things
00:53:01.020 like that need to be properly investigated what about the people that were involved in phone call
00:53:06.460 at the beginning of the of our show here where they were talking down to you like you were you
00:53:10.540 know some unauthoritarian kid i had read the history very very you know actually it started
00:53:23.180 when i was a teenager i was i was exposed to a book um i read the book tortured for christ by
00:53:29.580 richard wirmbrand and that started me on a journey of how communism had kept so many people under
00:53:37.580 tyranny for so long and and so some of these show trials you know some of these show trials in in
00:53:45.820 in communist russia uh was uh essentially based on somebody um saying that oh you was you were
00:53:58.620 so good but now you've become so bad and i think you may need some psychiatric help and so we'll
00:54:04.540 send you to the you know to a hospital or something or to the gulag so yeah so this this was
00:54:13.420 uh you know it i i was disappointed i was um i was not shocked because i i i knew that the pattern
00:54:22.380 of tyranny um and but i was i was disturbed of course by by the because the academy was not
00:54:30.540 becoming a was not a place where truth is pursued it was a place where tyranny
00:54:36.900 was exercised so what are your thoughts on like as Canadian citizens have they
00:54:45.420 been conditioned over the last number of years to follow that narrative and not
00:54:49.680 question authority is that is that where we are in this country right now yeah I
00:54:54.720 I think most Canadians, and I think one of the heartening things I see is that a lot of Canadians are, you know, they may not be openly admitting that they were wrong during COVID, but privately and even in their own families, they admit that the government handling of COVID was a debacle, was atrocious.
00:55:24.160 I'm sure those conversations are already going on. To address your question as to whether Canadians are conditioned in a way that they cannot be changed. Anybody can change. I do believe that everybody can change. But the conditioning as you talk about the state of the nation is a very real thing.
00:55:49.380 but it started not with covid i think it started uh much earlier than that much much earlier with
00:55:56.740 the taking over of our universities and so on um the uh your re your listeners and viewers uh
00:56:07.060 i i don't think i'm gonna go into the frankfurt school and people like that who you know who
00:56:14.180 who influenced universities and took over the universe by the by by the 1980s the takeover
00:56:20.180 the university was complete and and you know i've been teaching medical students and training
00:56:26.020 surgeons uh for more than 30 years and back in 2000 i noticed there were several changes
00:56:35.060 one of the changes that i saw was that a lot of things were going by guidelines okay so
00:56:45.060 you know if i would be teaching medical students and taking a clinic for them and i would ask them
00:56:50.260 a question uh they would say you know the guidelines state um and then if i asked them
00:56:56.500 so can you tell me why the guidelines state what they state and they would draw a blank most of
00:57:02.820 the time because uh guidelines so thinking beyond the guidelines was not they were not conditioned
00:57:10.180 to do that and i think that's that's been the case uh with for example our teachers um the
00:57:17.940 the the woke ideas that are being propagated by teachers uh are the reason our schools are in such
00:57:24.900 a mess but those ideas didn't start with the covet pandemic they started uh you know in the 1960s
00:57:32.500 with and even before that with the frankfurt school and uh and and and and and the dissemination of
00:57:38.820 these dystopian ideas and post-modernism and so on and by the 1980s the the universities had been
00:57:45.140 taken over so the teachers coming out of our universities are called coming out of those
00:57:49.460 coming out with those woke ideas and they take those ideas to the schools they all with almost
00:57:55.300 missionary zeal and and and they're therefore conditioning the word you used uh a gen several
00:58:03.940 generations of uh of of canadian young people who basically accept authority uh because those are
00:58:12.580 the guidelines right so that's right even even uh even during covid i think a lot of physicians
00:58:20.660 thought in terms of guidelines it's of actually investigating the science behind the guidelines
00:58:26.500 which is what science is all about so I mean everyone that knows you or knows of you knows
00:58:35.000 that you were not a tinfoil hat wearing man I mean when you look at examples like what you just said
00:58:41.760 the infiltration of the education system and you look at the pandemic and then you look at a lot
00:58:46.200 of things that are happening right now the the purchasing basically of our mean girl media
00:58:51.540 mainstream media i mean what's the end game what is the end game to all of this from your
00:58:58.480 highly educated and professional perspective you know tamara the the end game for you me
00:59:05.400 chris the end game for us is victory because yeah so yes absolutely i i think uh there is no doubt
00:59:17.500 that because we have eternal life in christ nothing can can nothing can scare us nothing can
00:59:26.480 nothing nothing can actually overcome us because christ has overcome death itself for us
00:59:33.600 i i think the end game with regard to things like wokeism things like
00:59:43.840 uh you know the the demonic transgender agenda for example uh things like that um
00:59:52.640 the the the the fact that the media is an arm of government instead of holding the government to
01:00:01.240 account it's actually become an arm of government yeah the the the end game uh i i i have to say it
01:00:10.040 and i it doesn't give me any um any pleasure saying it but i think western civilization is
01:00:19.560 actually on the way down uh and and in game maybe a period of great suffering uh from which will
01:00:28.920 emerge uh truth from which will emerge uh because as of now as long as the average canadian can
01:00:39.000 watch his favorite tv programs and go on his annual uh hop to mexico or something uh they're
01:00:45.800 not really bothered about freedom or what their children learn at school the walk things that is
01:00:53.480 it it doesn't really get into their consciousness but unfortunately the the you know with all that's
01:01:00.920 happening in the world um i think the end game uh will be uh or might be anyway a period of great
01:01:09.240 suffering it may not happen now it may not happen in the next five or even ten years but
01:01:15.400 that's the trajectory um for a while uh the west was ascendant uh the west um
01:01:23.480 um you know led the world in in in science in technology but all but more importantly in things
01:01:31.080 like uh what is freedom what is uh of conscience and things like that uh now we are reverting to
01:01:41.080 what i would call the pagan past so um you know um before uh christ and his kingdom came to western
01:01:51.240 europe uh the the druids in england were sacrificing children uh they were burning
01:01:57.960 children to the to the gods uh they were it was it was a savage uncultured uncultured world
01:02:04.920 and i think in many ways we are reverting we haven't gotten to that stage yet um some people
01:02:13.320 might disagree but but certainly we're going backwards and and eventually there might be a
01:02:21.960 cataclysmic event that triggers great suffering and that is the only thing i think that'll wake
01:02:28.440 up people yeah one was absolutely right i mean every great sorry chris i just um every great
01:02:36.200 civilization um rises and falls every every single one so you're absolutely go ahead chris sorry about
01:02:42.440 that i was just going to say some of the some of the reality shows that i see on tv here
01:02:46.840 it's the social destruction of society right now um they're literally putting people in positions
01:02:52.120 that it's sad very sad and that's what people look forward to watching it's engineered destruction
01:02:59.960 and it's planned destruction yeah um i mean the the billionaires um some people say we shouldn't
01:03:09.320 call them the elite we we should call them the predators because they like being called elite
01:03:14.360 uh so so so the predators um say the ai guys okay do they need the money they're the richest
01:03:22.600 people in the world but they need the power they need the power and and if they can make everybody
01:03:29.080 think in in ways that google makes people think or grok or whatever the ai thing that is the latest
01:03:37.800 fashion if because because everything every everybody now looks to ai for information
01:03:45.080 and and undoubtedly that that's something they want to control yeah that's so true
01:03:53.560 i try not to use it i mean i don't use it that often every time i ask somebody questioning how
01:03:58.600 do you do this or how do you do that they're like well have you tried ai have you run it through ai
01:04:02.200 And I'm like, no, I haven't.
01:04:03.760 Yeah, I use it too.
01:04:04.800 I mean, because AI can be an excellent servant, but a terrible master.
01:04:11.180 Yes.
01:04:11.860 Yeah, that's the thing.
01:04:13.560 I think everything, for the most part, is okay in moderate.
01:04:18.160 Well, not everything, but most things are okay.
01:04:20.740 Everything is okay in moderation.
01:04:22.300 But, I mean, AI is just not something that I would ever want to become totally dependent on.
01:04:28.100 But look at this over the generations.
01:04:29.760 I used to jump in the truck and drive to Texas before cell phones,
01:04:33.160 and I would truck 3,000 kilometers, 3,400 kilometers on a paper map
01:04:37.620 and with no phone, and you would phone from the payphone
01:04:40.760 at the end of the night at the truck stop.
01:04:42.560 And nowadays, I honestly don't know what I'd do if I couldn't have looking
01:04:46.660 at my GPS on the dash to tell me where my next corner is
01:04:49.920 or, you know, dialing my parents' number.
01:04:52.600 It's just you dial mom and dad.
01:04:54.400 Save.
01:04:54.600 I wrote a substack last week about embracing uncertainty because without uncertainty, life becomes very boring.
01:05:05.920 If everything is programmed and certain, life becomes boring.
01:05:10.320 Now, I mean, I made the example in that essay of a guy now, you know, planning to propose to his girlfriend and planning to marry this girl and he wants to get her consent.
01:05:26.460 So that starts with looking at all the types of diamonds on the Internet, all the types of rings on the Internet, and then, you know, researching discussion boards on what to say and how to say it.
01:05:38.620 And which combination of genuflection, you know, speech and actions will actually make us. So by the time that time comes, there is so much of research on the internet messaging his friends, messaging back from the friends that the joy is arguably taken out of the moment.
01:06:03.620 okay I mean at least some of the short whereas you know when when you and I
01:06:09.800 were growing up there was no you know researching such important things on the
01:06:16.520 internet we just I mean I I proposed to my wife not knowing if she would say yes
01:06:23.000 i thought she would i thought she would but but but the fact is um you know a lot of things there's
01:06:32.760 there's an attempt to crowd out uncertainty from life and i'm not i'm not making an argument to
01:06:40.360 going back to the days of the days of horse and buggy um but but i remember the time when like
01:06:46.840 like you said chris we used to navigate by maps uh on our laps and and and there was a certain
01:06:54.360 there was a you know there was there was alternate uh uh disappointment elation ecstasy uh and um
01:07:02.840 you know desperate uh longing for the our destination but when the desk you know even
01:07:11.320 if we got into a wrong road sometimes that was that that was quite nice too because it would
01:07:17.480 take us to unexpected places and then when we get to the destination it would give us
01:07:25.480 unspeakable joy yes very true my wife i don't know if i would know how to cook a turkey now without
01:07:31.880 google my wife was out piloting for an oversized load yesterday and she was in southwest saskatchewan
01:07:39.240 And there's many highways that run around down there.
01:07:42.020 But she left the place and listened to Google Maps.
01:07:44.480 And Google Maps ran her up a back road along the back west side of Cypress Hills Park.
01:07:50.300 Tamara, have you ever been up to this?
01:07:52.380 She said it was the absolute most beautiful drive she's ever had.
01:07:57.420 And I said, you just listened to the thing on the dash,
01:08:01.480 and it took you for an amazing drive when, you know,
01:08:04.080 you could have picked the prairie trail that she was supposed to be on.
01:08:07.860 but it's just amazing how Google figured out that she needed scenic
01:08:11.700 powerful companies and individuals that control the digital grid and the Trump
01:08:18.620 administration Trump himself signed off on 6g in December 2025 and that
01:08:26.100 includes implantable chips and I actually I think that 6g implantable
01:08:33.680 chips will become more and more accepted by the people and then uh of course the government will
01:08:40.240 know exactly where you are what you're doing and uh it's it's not a it's not a happy thought i mean
01:08:47.120 it's hard to escape the conclusion that you know this is part of a globalist enterprise because
01:08:55.440 they do anyways even just with your phones i mean if you've got a phone they know where you are
01:09:00.480 basically i mean they can do they can turn that on that's why i laugh you know well i don't laugh
01:09:05.280 because it's terrible but you know they just are trying to shove this legislation through where
01:09:09.040 they can open your mail they're already opening your mail everyone they're already listening to
01:09:14.080 your phones they're already opening your mail all the stuff that they're trying to pass is to
01:09:19.040 protect their own butts because they're already doing it trust me i know you know the the
01:09:25.840 consolation we have is tyrannies are very few tyrannies are competent uh most tyrannies are
01:09:32.640 incompetent including the covid tyranny thank god uh and and so the trudeau liberal government
01:09:40.160 certainly proved that yeah especially during the convoy especially during the convoy like you said
01:09:45.360 at the beginning you know everything that they did every decision they made was the wrong one
01:09:51.360 the absolute right from him getting coming into contact with somebody who had covet even though
01:09:57.040 he'd been thrice vaccinated at that point to being skirted out of ottawa for his own safety
01:10:02.640 skirted out of ottawa because middle-class working canadians are coming to ask you
01:10:08.560 to please sir could we have some freedom back exactly and the deer in the headlights look when
01:10:15.280 he when he uh hastily repealed the emergency when he knew the senate was not going to back him oh
01:10:26.320 i knew his days were numbered uh he looks really scared yeah but you know the magnitude of what he
01:10:33.760 did sort of dawned on him at that point he's dating an astronaut now so i think uh his
01:10:39.680 is extremely positive
01:10:42.080 sending him to the stars maybe
01:10:49.580 get him a one-way ticket to the moon one-way ticket to you know elon musk wants to populate
01:11:02.120 the stars so he can go up in one of his rockets yes let's see it we can send him from our brand
01:11:09.020 new spaceport in nova scotia did you see that dr francis that you know people like pouchy with him
01:11:21.980 too they would make you know a special trip to the stars a special yes yes so what are you up to these
01:11:33.740 days anyways dr francis i don't even know what you and your family are doing you're retired now
01:11:37.900 obviously yes as you pointed out at the start i recently retired from surgery uh congratulations
01:11:45.660 after moving thank you after more than 30 years of being a surgeon um but i'm busy with a whole
01:11:52.300 lot of other things i i teach uh high school children who have been homeschooled so you know
01:12:01.820 a lot of um it accelerated during the covet uh tyranny covet pandemic but even before that a
01:12:10.780 lot of children are being pulled out of uh the public school system uh because um you know the
01:12:17.340 system as as parents see it uh is very corrupt and and it is very corrupt and they didn't want
01:12:23.980 all this wokeology being taught to their kids um that that movement accelerated during covid
01:12:32.460 and and so uh there are there are there are many high schooled i mean homeschooled homeschooled
01:12:40.460 children who go through elementary homeschool middle school and then when it comes to high school
01:12:47.180 um not all parents but some parents feel a little out of their depth
01:12:52.460 uh you know for teaching english literature or biology or or business studies and so on
01:13:00.300 so i teach a group of high school students um english literature i teach them uh biology
01:13:09.020 and i teach and i teach them drama um great a few weeks ago we had the public performance
01:13:16.620 of our shekov plays and we we have entered a new drama season and we are going to be having uh
01:13:26.780 two other plays in early june and all these are comedies so they they enjoy okay yeah
01:13:35.740 and oh good for you thank you he's still giving that's so one of these days i'll have to take my
01:13:42.780 uh my half hour mandatory lunch break trucking when i go through saskatoon the next time and
01:13:47.820 we'll have to meet up for a week um well i'll be through there in the next little while i'm sure
01:13:53.580 so uh we'll definitely have to plan on that as it's been a while it's been a couple i think it's
01:13:57.580 been a couple years since we've ran into each other hasn't yes yes yes absolutely when i came
01:14:02.140 to see you last yes right well and likewise i'll be um in saskatchewan i'll be in saskatoon actually
01:14:10.060 may 23rd for the saskatchewan prosperity uh event they're doing a big event there so i'm going to
01:14:15.660 be speaking at that and covering that for rebel news so we will definitely have a business dinner
01:14:21.020 or we'll figure something out anyways i'd love to see you you might just have to come to my hotel
01:14:25.260 but whatever i will figure it out yes so look forward to it it'll be fabulous i just i know
01:14:33.420 it's been a long time it's been a really long time and it's just always such a pleasure meeting you
01:14:37.500 and i hope those high school kids know like the hero the canadian hero that is literally
01:14:42.700 teaching them drama biology and english lit oh man i would i i would have loved high school
01:14:50.460 i don't feel like a hero but but but you you guys truly are heroes oh well you'll have to give uh
01:14:57.180 give our love to your amazingly beautiful wife thank you i will thank you and and my love to
01:15:03.020 your family too thank you thank you and your and to duane and your family to uh tamara i will pass
01:15:10.540 that on um i just want to say um on behalf of me and chris and tasha and all of everyone in
01:15:15.820 our community thank you so much for joining us tonight it's been an absolute pleasure
01:15:20.220 talk to you long overdue and we'll do this again we'll get another update from you
01:15:25.340 find out how that find out how the plays went off thank you it's a great honor to be on your show
01:15:30.460 thank you thanks for joining us have a great night look let dr francisco okay take care doctor
01:15:36.920 wow amazing this is amazing you know something that i just realized is that you know you had
01:15:46.960 a really busy day i had a really busy day but don't you find every time you talk to that man
01:15:51.480 just hearing his voice it's just like you know everything uh everything just comes back into
01:15:58.320 perspective again great attitude great demeanor um we're so very very lucky to to have him
01:16:07.040 um now queen ramona was the only global leader calling out the vaccine for what
01:16:12.400 is queen ramona is a global leader did you see that go get some go get some help there buddy
01:16:18.640 queen ramona is a mess yeah kevin street kevin is actually hi kevin kevin is our guest next week on
01:16:27.600 our v-injury program profile. As you all know, the first Monday of every month, we are profiling
01:16:34.240 a Canadian with a vaccine injury to get their stories out. Some of them are raising funds for
01:16:39.900 legal fees for court cases. Some of them just need help looking after themselves. So Kevin Street is
01:16:46.180 going to be a very special guest for our very first episode in May on the vaccine injury
01:16:51.260 um uh platform and what else do we got for any other
01:16:56.380 announcements other than we're going to do a special live stream tomorrow night to talk about
01:17:01.860 my lawsuit and the and so i think that's going to be um if anybody out there wants a little bit of
01:17:09.420 an update on the lawsuit you can head over to uh obviously the big red page tamara's page twitter
01:17:13.760 pages everywhere there's uh there's a link to what's going on with that uh she has filed suit
01:17:19.280 against a lot of people and uh we need to stand behind accountability has to happen and
01:17:24.000 unfortunately lawyers cost a lot of darn money um so we we need this this is something that i
01:17:29.360 feel that it's time these people need to be held accountable in their actions over the last number
01:17:34.080 of years and uh to everyone that's donated so far i can't thank you enough um you know it's been up
01:17:42.160 for two days now and there's over 25 000 that has been donated so i want to thank you very very much
01:17:48.480 um as chris said this is terrifying this is terrifying because you know um i potentially
01:17:55.920 could put myself into debt for the rest of my life which is okay i mean i think it's gonna i think
01:18:00.800 it's gonna be worth it um these cases as we talked about are very hard to win typically
01:18:05.200 malicious prosecution and negligent investigation cases but keith wilson did a hell of a claim
01:18:10.880 um their lawyers really like it and you know what at the end of the day i just want to ensure
01:18:17.040 that what happened to me never happens to another canadian i mean i could just walk away and suck
01:18:22.960 this up as you and i have had to suck up so many things chris barber um but this one i can't let
01:18:29.120 go and um even if we just give them a bit of a black eye i am okay with that you know i'm really
01:18:35.520 okay with that when they when they picked us to be the people to persecute to the fullest extent
01:18:39.920 of the law i think they picked the wrong people because we're both stubborn personalities and
01:18:43.360 we're strong-willed and we we don't give up easy so and we're good people we're not crazy we're
01:18:49.920 just good people man so yes if you want to have a look at the statement of claim i have a give
01:18:56.160 send go campaign all set up um there's links on all of my social media there is a link on my
01:19:01.600 web page which is the official official tamiraleach.com there is a link there to the entire
01:19:06.720 statement of claim if you have to have a look at it and so we will be popping on here tomorrow
01:19:11.680 evening for a special episode live stream on the lawsuit at 6 p.m mountain time chris has graciously
01:19:17.680 offered to step in and and co-host with me uh while we talk about me i guess i might be in the
01:19:24.440 cab of the truck tomorrow i'm not sure hopefully the safety goes good on red in the morning i'm
01:19:28.180 not sure where my i've had i have everything that i do has to be on a schedule for everywhere i go
01:19:32.700 in every destination and when a load falls apart in the meantime it really messes the week up so
01:19:37.480 I had that happen this afternoon.
01:19:38.900 My load book for tomorrow kind of fell.
01:19:40.520 One of the loads fell apart, and it was a crucial part.
01:19:44.760 So I've got a lot of work, and I'll just move on to the next.
01:19:47.020 But I should probably be out trucking tomorrow night as through the weekend.
01:19:51.880 Yeah.
01:19:52.840 You're busy.
01:19:53.640 You've got to make hay while the sun shines, I know.
01:19:55.900 I appreciate you taking the time.
01:19:58.180 It's a lot easier to sit in the basement of the house here.
01:20:00.860 I know a few people drove into the yard.
01:20:02.220 I had to mute my mic because Zippy was losing his marbles at the top of the stair.
01:20:05.980 I don't know.
01:20:06.580 i try to hit the mute button when i hear him coming and uh obviously somebody just drives
01:20:10.260 by the yard he goes berserk so he's a security system as well as a a constant eater that's right
01:20:17.940 your your main expense exactly which reminds me i gotta go feed him suppers so yeah everybody go
01:20:26.820 we will see you guys um all tomorrow evening thanks again to our special guest dr francis
01:20:31.540 christian as well as our producer tasha potter uh for those of you that can make it tomorrow
01:20:36.340 we will see you then and um thank you for to our community you know we're almost at 7 000
01:20:41.380 subscribers already and so i just wanted to give a shout out to you guys thank you for the support
01:20:46.180 please keep sharing the channel please uh subscribe share like do what you need to do
01:20:52.180 um and uh i guess with that we'll say goodbye keep fighting for freedom no one's going to do it for
01:20:59.060 you and you got to keep those sticks firmly planted so have a great evening we'll see you tomorrow
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