House Arrest - Ep 4 - Mandate Freedom with Bern Beukert & Ben Haab

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 do you want to go to ottawa jonathan yeah how old are you uh 18. is it time to make history

00:00:38.380 yeah we need a change don't we need a change we're going ottawa

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00:02:30.000 Good evening, everybody. Welcome to this Thursday's episode of House Arrest. We have special

00:02:38.040 guest Berne Buchert and Ben Hogg joining Chris and myself tonight. As you can see, Chris is not

00:02:43.280 here yet. He is running a little bit late. So you're stuck with me for an update for a few

00:02:49.240 minutes. And I hope you guys are all doing really, really well. What a video. You probably saw me

00:02:56.100 getting a little bit choked up that's uh if you haven't seen unacceptable by ben you really got

00:03:03.000 to watch it he did such an amazing job and uh it's such beautiful it's such beautiful footage

00:03:09.100 to re-watch i find it really really touching so sorry for getting choked up but uh it is it's who

00:03:15.880 i am so how are you guys doing tonight let's see stetler alberta welcome stetler hi jeffrey

00:03:25.140 thanks for joining us tonight you guys yeah certainly did certainly did

00:03:32.420 bonsoir christine i had my fourth french lesson today so um progress is being made slow but sure

00:03:43.680 gibson's all right welcome welcome you guys oh getting people in here all right chris is oh

00:03:53.720 Chris just popped in. Okay. Hang on one second. I'll bring him on here.

00:04:00.340 Mr. Barber. There he is.

00:04:03.540 Four minutes late.

00:04:05.800 You're fired.

00:04:07.160 The truck is literally just cooling down in the driveway. Sorry about that, everyone.

00:04:11.400 Oh, no problem. We had a few minutes. I just played that clip from Unacceptable,

00:04:15.700 the one that always tears me up and just had a little shed a tear here on our live stream,

00:04:22.700 but i managed to compose myself how was your day uh it was very busy i uh i was towing this morning

00:04:28.740 with the truck with the hitch and everything on and i went to trailers this afternoon and uh

00:04:32.680 just uh just loaded a fertilizer floater for a young lad uh just outside of swift current in

00:04:37.280 the dark and uh just just pulled on more trucking first thing in the morning i didn't quite get done

00:04:42.160 what i expected to do today but it doesn't mean it wasn't busy so

00:04:45.140 how's your uh my day was crazy my whole week has been crazy um i'm learning that there's a lot more

00:04:55.380 to doing a podcast and a live stream than just uh popping yourself in front of a camera so i've

00:05:01.060 spent the last few days you know uh trying to figure out i i my technological skills are out

00:05:06.100 the window there was a time i've said this before where i felt like i was extremely technologically

00:05:11.140 inclined but those days are long gone so i mean i'm learning how to do things like clipping videos

00:05:16.660 and clipping audio and all that kind of nobody can see what tamara and i see here but there's

00:05:20.580 a whole list of stuff and i can tell you it is full on this side because of what tamara's working

00:05:24.820 on and i am not part of that part i've been so busy the last little while my apologies but

00:05:29.700 you know that's okay you'll have to you just have to figure it out for when the baby comes because

00:05:33.860 when my grandbaby comes i might be gone for a week but i'm depending on the day that she's born

00:05:38.900 um you know take all my stuff with me obviously so thank you thanks john i had a great uh what's

00:05:48.120 that what's that chris i said they'd have to sit and listen to me the whole time that's not going

00:05:51.780 to be fair oh man come on hard to get a microphone out of your face sometimes right i have to bug

00:06:00.320 chris about that because literally i mean he's always the guy that i'm not talking i'm not saying

00:06:04.960 anything i'll stand beside you in support and that's why you'll always see pictures of me with

00:06:09.300 chris barber's chest yep because he stands beside me for support but i've gotten better at that i

00:06:15.660 guess i've matured a little bit if anybody could say that and any updates from your probation

00:06:23.600 officer this week uh well a little bit of trouble um i think one of the biggest things i'm dealing

00:06:30.320 with right now is the scheduling. And because we're on 24 hour house curfew, I'm allowed to

00:06:35.220 work, but everything's going to be on a schedule. So I have to plan out my week in advance. And I

00:06:40.100 can tell you that is becoming really, really, really hard. We've had some truck troubles in

00:06:44.160 the last little while here. We've had some guys that, you know, weren't on the schedule that

00:06:47.700 they're supposed to. So therefore, you know, yeah, it's been tricky. So an email and a harsh

00:06:53.160 phone call this morning, you know, trying to explain each other's stories. And I understand

00:06:57.680 there's there's rules that need to be followed and i'm doing my best to follow that but

00:07:01.680 my business runs on minute by minute and my plans change 15 times a day it's really really really

00:07:06.960 hard to try and pencil that out a week in advance so we've got it down to twice a week but that's

00:07:11.040 still the load i was supposed to do tomorrow morning is now cancelled because of the shop

00:07:15.520 won't have it ready so now i have to rework it re-email or the the change of plans and and then

00:07:20.560 just before i get that order i have to get an email saying what my schedule is before i can leave so

00:07:25.440 yeah you have a very tricky uh tricky type of job for probationary or house arrest measures i mean

00:07:35.520 i mean your your day could change on a on a dime really right it has yeah and i explained that to

00:07:42.960 her this morning and she you know she has a she has a job to do so she has protocol that she has

00:07:48.400 to follow and i completely understand that it's just really complicates things so and i said like

00:07:53.680 it's a it's a burden for me to have to email five times a day saying oh this load just got

00:07:58.160 cancelled like what are we going to do in the winter time when combines and tractors won't

00:08:01.360 start and i'm stuck in farmyards longer you know sometimes you get stuck in a snowstorm overnight so

00:08:06.480 um just working through that yeah it's gonna be interesting well you know i um got a glowing

00:08:13.280 review from my probation officer today good i don't know if he's that i posted earlier but

00:08:19.040 she's completed my case review and deemed that i can switch my weekly check-ins to bi-weekly now

00:08:26.720 and if i if i'm still a good girl i stay a good girl in about six months they're going to reassess

00:08:32.720 again and then i could get to monthly or bi-monthly um check-ins with my probation officer so that's

00:08:40.160 good um we we made some progress today and i and you know um i feel i feel like um not that she's

00:08:49.280 going to be helpful but i i feel like she's not going to work needs to be and that she's willing

00:08:53.520 to you know just try and work with me so i mean it's so it's just a lot of mutual respect and

00:08:59.920 thank yous and and honestly i mean these people got to get a chance to sort of feel us out and

00:09:04.640 to you with the type of people i think that's the big thing yeah yeah we're not the big dangerous

00:09:10.240 criminals are we that's everybody in the media has made us out to be so well that depends on

00:09:16.080 who you follow on twitter my friend we got some neat tweets coming up for you later on today ladies

00:09:22.320 oh i got some doozies for you today you're gonna laugh your butts off um that's that's gonna become

00:09:27.440 my favorite part i think i did get one of yours uploaded chris i don't think i got the other ones

00:09:31.040 okay I got a few here what did I do with my phone yeah I have to mute this thing

00:09:36.320 before it starts going off because it's a busy day I see there's lots of

00:09:40.400 comments you're going so far hi everybody I see you the names of the

00:09:43.320 towns coming in I love seeing that it's nice to see so many people from across

00:09:46.760 the whole country and even the US and we've seen stuff from an overseas too

00:09:51.180 that's pretty cool yes it is very cool okay so I got just a couple of things I

00:09:58.540 wanted to chat about real quickly first of all I wanted to do a shout out again

00:10:01.600 to Ruby Kennedy who is modding our chat say hi Ruby I saw you pop up a little 1.00

00:10:07.240 while ago but thanks a lot to what you guys don't know is that she actually

00:10:10.720 handled the Facebook when I was blocked from it the Facebook page she's done a

00:10:15.220 lot of writing and a lot of articles she's always anytime I call on Ruby

00:10:19.480 she's right there to help me with anything I need and it's so appreciated

00:10:23.740 we are looking for a couple more mods to help her out so if you're interested

00:10:28.480 you want to be a mod on Facebook or X or YouTube well I guess Ruby's got the

00:10:35.020 YouTube just let me know send me a message we have an email address I wanted

00:10:41.140 to post here so if you guys have any I see burn and band are just getting in

00:10:45.460 there thanks so if you have any emails suggestions comments questions hate mail

00:10:52.720 you can email us at 18house.arrest at gmail.com that's for questions comments concerns suggestions

00:11:02.360 or hate mail yeah we're going to uh we'll do a segment on on mean emails after

00:11:08.700 oh i got some nasty ones there i see jim cox is in the comments here from red deer jim i hope you

00:11:17.180 look over the shoulder here and you see that calendar on the wall that is your calendar

00:11:20.700 with the 24 mod that you have that you race and the big red banner is on the back quarter panel

00:11:26.100 of it jim i i that thing is there for a purpose so it's good to see in the comments buddy

00:11:30.140 isaac keep on trucking buddy stanley new brenswick headed to winnipeg wow that's quite a drive

00:11:38.760 be trucking to piapot saskatchewan tomorrow and then up to cabri and then down to surf

00:11:43.520 current and then up to dinsmore and then out to patricia alberta hmm there's my schedule for

00:11:50.560 you know where i get to go tomorrow to the food bank and back can i get there with big red i heard

00:11:58.060 there's some we can grab a bite there maybe on my way through i'll be through medicine

00:12:01.020 have something ask your probation officer i got a fire meeting tomorrow night actually really i'm

00:12:10.940 loving uh my community service you know it's uh it's really fun to be down there and of course

00:12:15.900 with me learning french i mean i must look hilarious back there because when i'm working

00:12:20.540 in the warehouse i'm grabbing you know all the food and and um whatever putting it where it

00:12:27.260 belongs and reading all the labels out in french oh nice i can try everything

00:12:33.180 the future prime minister of canada everyone mr mary leach never say never

00:12:40.620 i guess i can take that off now um and there's also one more thing i wanted to

00:12:45.820 um bring up was our good friend chava is having a fundraiser this weekend in what's it beamsville

00:12:53.100 i've never heard of beamsville ontario i'm not sure where that is but uh this is most likely

00:12:58.060 a group of our friends that are that are hosting this for him so i assume it's down in the niagara

00:13:01.900 region somewhere but please correct me if i'm wrong um chaba as you know had his charges dropped

00:13:08.860 finally after three and a half years of law fair and um so he's he's free and clear as far as his

00:13:16.220 charges go however he does have some legal fees that he still has to cover and so they're going

00:13:21.180 gonna do this fundraiser for him on Saturday in Beansville as you can see

00:13:26.040 here you can RSVP ticket info is at Niagara local 10-4 comm so I'll try to

00:13:34.780 remember to post that again later is just south of southeast of Grimsby

00:13:43.580 Ontario in the near as you said just West of St. Catharines

00:13:51.180 oh yeah i can't wait no i can't make it to this one however i will say i have had the absolute

00:13:58.140 honor of playing with this band before when we did a fundraiser for jay um remember that

00:14:02.860 uh in niagara and so full malady was the band that i went and jammed with and and we did a show

00:14:08.300 to raise money for uh jay's legal fees too so um great band uh just so much fun to watch i can't

00:14:15.340 wait for the opportunity to play with those guys again nice so hopefully you guys can't hear all

00:14:21.100 the banging upstairs my grandsons are home and my my youngest i just had to quickly before we

00:14:27.580 went live run upstairs and asked him to stop driving his little car around because it sounded

00:14:31.340 like an earthquake down here so let me know let me know if that if it if it does get louder it's too

00:14:37.660 distracting so um without further ado i'm going to i've got a clip here um that i want to play

00:14:45.580 and then we are going to bring on uh ben and burns so hang on what's up

00:14:53.260 in some way and it's all negative so my swamper and i are both from the peace region um 14 john

00:15:00.060 british columbia northeastern british columbia i uh had to reset my odometer so i don't have exact

00:15:05.340 kilometers, but I've been telling people 4300 kilometers from home right now, a long

00:15:09.420 way from my kids. Miss them, they're all not feeling very well right now, but at

00:15:14.820 the same time every mile has been easier because, or every mile, I wouldn't say

00:15:19.740 easier, but we've been had the encouragement to keep going every

00:15:24.180 kilometer because there's been so much support every step of the way. Most of us

00:15:28.860 wouldn't be here if we didn't have a support network back home who believes

00:15:31.500 in this cause. Most of us wouldn't be here if we didn't have wives at home who 0.99

00:15:34.920 We're 110% behind us, so thank you to Heidi and my kids.

00:15:42.420 My kids are happy I'm here.

00:15:44.760 My 10-year-old is like, finally, we're doing something.

00:15:47.680 That was his take on this.

00:15:48.800 He's just so tired of hearing us talk about COVID

00:15:51.300 and about all the mandates and how tired we are of stuff.

00:15:54.220 And he's excited that Dad's here,

00:15:55.700 even though we miss each other, right?

00:16:00.100 So we couldn't be here without a support network

00:16:03.240 and without people back home praying for us

00:16:06.100 and people back home cheering us on and sharing this

00:16:08.560 and building that sign that you guys see behind you

00:16:12.020 and doing the lettering and filling my tanks

00:16:15.760 and on and on, it's never ending.

00:16:18.500 And every guy here has a story like that.

00:16:21.440 Well, a big, somebody you'll see on TikTok is Big Red.

00:16:27.640 His code name's Big Red.

00:16:28.800 We've all got panels on the road

00:16:30.680 because you have to, you're a trucker in a convoy.

00:16:32.980 have to have a handle so his handles big red um chris barber great guy had the chance to talk to

00:16:39.540 him immediately there's so much unity already and it's just going to spread i think every guy here

00:16:44.500 is going to go home a little bit different every guy for having seen all this stuff you don't go

00:16:49.940 home the same and so we just want to inspire oh thanks burn hey guys welcome burn and ben it's so

00:17:00.020 i'm so excited to have you guys on our show thanks so much for agreeing to come on nice uh

00:17:05.860 nice touch playing that clip getting me emotional i know me too did you see me

00:17:13.060 it's really hard not to get emotional when i watch any of those video clips and um

00:17:20.420 yeah i might need a moment and then you run across clips that you really haven't seen like it's you

00:17:25.540 run across fresh stuff still that you have not seen since you were there how many times have

00:17:31.380 you watched the movie or the documentary unacceptable guys probably i think i'm 14 or

00:17:35.140 15 times now and i could watch it again tomorrow and i would still find the emotions that i did

00:17:38.900 the first time i watched it 100 yeah hats off to that guy right yeah that's right definitely

00:17:46.580 watched it a few times when we did the just the just the theater tour alone i think we were 20

00:17:53.140 some deep into watching the documentary and that oh yeah like i i mean ben can corroborate this

00:18:01.380 this was so fun because you went out to all these different theaters and all these different towns

00:18:05.620 and cities and every theater had a different feel to it um we remember a couple theaters

00:18:10.820 where we're like they're gonna throw something at the screen and break the screen when certain

00:18:14.660 politicians came on the screen oh this is the best to pay for a screen so that was good no

00:18:23.620 unbelievably emotional and then when we every everyone that i was at and the amount of people

00:18:28.340 that you get to just to visit with the like-minded people and the stories that people told like we

00:18:32.260 were in uh i think i did that one on my own that night in british columbia didn't i wasn't it where

00:18:36.580 was that chill was down by salmon arm or something wasn't it yeah they asked me to come and so i was

00:18:42.260 the honorary person there i think it was just me wasn't it ben you weren't there right yeah that

00:18:46.580 one didn't work out with our schedule there was another screening somewhere else at the same time

00:18:50.660 so i'm glad yeah we weren't allowed to be in the same room together for most of these either i

00:18:57.220 think there was only one or two where we had to have legal eagles present so that we could go

00:19:03.300 within calgary yeah like we still had conditions then so uh kevin watched unacceptable four

00:19:12.020 times repping a shirt from ben there i don't know if you guys can see that nice i got the hoodie

00:19:17.060 over here i should have grabbed that oh that one about the shoulders unacceptable i have the sticker

00:19:23.540 on the top of my cabinet but it's on the other side away from the the thing there so right but

00:19:28.260 i do have it and where are you at man you're traveling right now aren't you yeah i'm somewhere

00:19:36.100 in between puerto rico and the bahamas well why don't we have a little start at the start here

00:19:49.700 burn and and um obviously you and ben knew each other before the convoy i'm assuming

00:19:57.300 and so if you want to just you know yeah okay well i we want to hear it

00:20:02.340 we actually our kids went to the same school i've known one of my or one of ben's brothers

00:20:10.980 since i was in my early 20s another one of his brothers for 15 years i've never met ben till

00:20:17.720 arm prior oh really wow yeah and actually my cousin brayden did the uh introduction because

00:20:25.600 brayden knew burn and uh and yeah so i literally the first time meeting burn was stuffing my camera

00:20:32.060 in his driver's side window and uh interviewing him and uh andy uh on the way there

00:20:42.300 you guys you guys caught up to us at thunder bay wasn't it you guys drove like mad crazy to try and

00:20:47.180 catch up to the convoy from northern bc yeah our like well because burn had left right after fort

00:20:53.980 saint john had their uh small convoy that just circled the city and that was a significant

00:21:01.420 amount of trucks even just for our small small city there and then burn had and andy had left

00:21:08.620 and my cousin braden and i and uh second cousin kirsten um and tammy had uh

00:21:19.180 reluctantly waited a few days i had a few projects i needed to finish up and then finally we just

00:21:25.660 grabbed as much film gear as we could stuff in the truck and our two trucks started heading

00:21:30.460 across the country and 48 hours of straight driving um we would just swap drivers sleep for

00:21:38.720 an hour or two sleep for an hour or two and swap drivers out and out and out until we yeah caught

00:21:44.480 up with everybody uh just outside of thunder bay and try doing that in a convoy sometime ben you

00:21:49.880 travel a lot slower yeah yeah clearly clearly but yeah so we got up in thunder bay and then just

00:21:57.020 started filming not really even knowing what we were doing my original concept was a five minute

00:22:04.040 mini doc of like well a lot like what chris said is uh we thought we were going to be there for

00:22:09.940 the weekend uh you know maybe something would happen and then uh we'd all go home and ah job

00:22:16.440 well done you know that kind of thing and i'd have my five minutes of this is what i experienced and

00:22:21.420 it exploded into something far larger than i had anticipated

00:22:25.340 one of the best documentaries i've seen when it comes to that right now and uh there's been a lot

00:22:31.640 of social media postable convoy but when when ben did that one for unacceptable it was it hit all

00:22:37.420 the key points i think it showed the narrative of the government it showed the narrative of the

00:22:40.980 media it showed the atmosphere of ottawa and the protest i think it showed just about every point

00:22:46.420 of it in the lead up to it which was the best it explains the entire story and that was it really

00:22:52.500 does thanks we were on our way there what was that sorry bernie sorry you kind of ran across

00:22:58.660 you um i think we were about two-thirds of the way there and i was talking to my wife my wife

00:23:03.060 is at home watching every clip she could get her hands on at that point and she's uh she's a lot

00:23:08.820 smarter than me which begs the question why we're together but we uh she said this is going to become

00:23:15.460 um um it's gonna be a just a war of what can get out there like a um i'm missing the word but uh

00:23:25.700 pr war basically yeah like as almost like a spin war like it's gonna it's gonna become

00:23:32.180 a media thing and it's gonna be a battle to see who can spin this their way and just bang on right

00:23:38.740 yeah well as a lot of people that's one of the most things i hear all the time is was people

00:23:45.300 the ones that watch the media versus the ones that watch the live stream were a completely

00:23:49.540 totally different thing yeah and i've thought so much about this you know we we really didn't

00:23:56.020 have a chance i mean with some minds in ottawa because as we've discussed numerous times and i've

00:24:02.500 talked about numerous times i mean we have the text messages between the prime minister's office

00:24:06.500 and the Minister of Public Safety's office, and I think it was Global News, you know,

00:24:13.220 all setting this narrative that the local politicians and law enforcement bureaucracy

00:24:18.260 in Ottawa just sort of ran with, and of course their media also. So, I mean, I do believe that

00:24:24.900 there was people in Ottawa that felt afraid or felt intimidated or didn't want to leave their

00:24:29.780 house but i mean that was put in their heads before we even got and i'll be one of the first

00:24:37.380 to espouse the ails of social media but correct yeah correct so yeah but it was um and you were

00:24:47.780 famous famously parked on nicholas street um i don't think did we meet in ottawa burn that's

00:24:54.260 a horrible question i know but i met so many i think it was no no we didn't i know where we met

00:24:58.900 and you must have had quite quite the first impression do you remember where we met first

00:25:05.060 were we at dinner no it i met chris and kenora um on the way in but i did not meet you until

00:25:13.540 i believe calgary like i i remember running across you in a hotel lobby for some of those

00:25:21.300 block leader meetings but yes didn't actually shake your hand i don't believe and then

00:25:25.940 And you must have had a weird first impression because we did a premiere in Calgary, but

00:25:30.920 there was also, what was that event that had Christina Anderson at it?

00:25:36.960 Oh, yes.

00:25:38.040 A number of people there that same weekend.

00:25:40.940 So I run into you there and meet you there.

00:25:44.020 And I'm excited to meet you because I know we're in the same documentary and we're going

00:25:46.640 to spend, you know, like I felt like I knew you already.

00:25:50.900 But first thing I did, I started taking off my shirt.

00:25:53.820 I'm like, Tamara, come look at this.

00:25:55.200 come check this she's like what am i gonna see i think she must have thought that i was just trying

00:25:59.920 to show you my tattoo that's right oh my gosh she's probably like what that yeah yeah that's hilarious

00:26:09.520 yeah i remember after i meet a famous criminal and you you were everyone knew your name i mean

00:26:16.880 i remember i remember you hearing your name in ottawa and like you said you know so many people

00:26:20.800 were coming and going in and out of those meetings that um but we just didn't catch everybody's name

00:26:24.880 but i remember after i was arrested um i was being taken on the saturday morning sorry i guess it was

00:26:33.680 the friday morning for my first bail hearing and we drove right by your truck and uh because

00:26:40.080 everybody knew where that truck was parked mandate freedom truck you know um so there and i just

00:26:45.280 remember you know driving by looking out the side of my transport um seeing your truck there and then

00:26:51.920 of course the next time i drove by it was gone you said that you thought that was friday that

00:26:57.600 you went by there uh i think my i was arrested thursday i think my bail hearing was friday

00:27:04.880 morning or no my my bail hearing was saturday morning sorry it was saturday morning yeah so

00:27:10.480 you must have been before that because you were arrested thursday and then we were arrested on

00:27:14.320 our block on friday morning yes yeah that's right yeah yeah i don't know how long the truck stayed

00:27:19.760 there until they moved that but hey i was really interesting i was the first one

00:27:27.680 yeah the trail my friend yep started a terrible thing i think they just didn't know who they had

00:27:35.360 when they picked you up i think though because you got out of there in some sweet time yeah 26

00:27:40.560 hours it was uh yeah uneventful but yeah it was a little fun you haven't you've never even been

00:27:46.400 arrested like seriously come on ban up your game a little bit i know the uh you know rubbing

00:27:54.000 shoulders with all this riff-raff and the drinks of society this that's right yeah i'm constantly

00:28:05.040 i'm constantly reminded of ben every time i drive to swift current you sold a cargo trailer with

00:28:09.440 eagle vision video productions on it to one of the people that lives in my area so every time i drive

00:28:13.920 to town this trailer's sitting on the side of the highway i'm like that's cool yeah and they never

00:28:21.920 having a weird connection to benjamin too that i didn't know um because i'd seen him and talked

00:28:26.800 to him a few times um during the making of unacceptable and then i think i think we were

00:28:32.480 trying to organize the dates for some premieres or something for me to attend and i started getting

00:28:37.680 emails from his wife and it turns out uh his wife is from my hometown or one of them i've

00:28:43.760 lived in several but she's from my hometown and my sister used to babysit her so i mean

00:28:48.640 talk about a small world and then i run into benjamin and yeah really uh really a small

00:28:54.560 world before and in much more smaller now yeah yeah well and it's it's kind of ridiculous the

00:29:02.320 fact that burn and i were from the same town and hadn't met each other until we were you know

00:29:08.720 2800 kilometers or 35 kilometers away from our hometown which was uh pretty ridiculous but yeah

00:29:16.320 so ben remind me did you stay in ottawa for the duration of the protests or did you just have a

00:29:23.120 crew there i mean i know that yeah you were there barely early on yeah so that was i mean we arrived

00:29:29.520 uh we followed the the convoy for the last uh two or three days of the journey um filming along the

00:29:36.800 way and then uh i was in ottawa for a handful of days after that after everyone had arrived and

00:29:45.200 then i had some projects back and forth so left a crew there drove all the way home again another

00:29:53.200 three-day straight drive in order to take care of some clients that we had back in in Fort St. John

00:30:00.340 and BC and Alberta and then we started on our way back so that I could finish out the filming and

00:30:07.780 relieve our crew that was there and then on the way back is when all the arrests started

00:30:13.140 so that's when we shifted our journey so instead of driving all the way there

00:30:20.320 um i started hitting some of the trucks on the way back like we met up with pretty boy in um

00:30:27.700 saskatch spencer yeah spencer i'm trying to remember where we met up with him he was on

00:30:35.180 the way home uh we met up burn yeah yeah we met up with burn in uh saskatoon uh and we just started

00:30:42.600 We slowed our trip and then we spent about six weeks on the road driving and grabbing interviews along the way and on our way back from because we went all the way to Quebec, down all the way to Windsor, Ontario, grabbing interviews along the way.

00:31:02.940 And then on the way back, I met up with you, Tamara, at your place.

00:31:07.380 Yeah.

00:31:08.700 And then eventually we tried to meet up with Chris, but he shoved us off to the side.

00:31:17.200 I was scared.

00:31:18.480 You know what?

00:31:19.180 I think I just was thinking about that.

00:31:21.140 I'm like, that's an interesting story, too, because when we were arrested, obviously, we were released with bail conditions.

00:31:25.820 And the lawyer basically said, go home and shut your mouth and don't talk to anyone.

00:31:30.080 so here i am like this ben wants to interview me with the documentary i'm like i don't think i can

00:31:36.000 i didn't know you know he could tell your story but here we are i was terrified too i mean i was

00:31:42.560 like well of course that first year for me i was basically put under a complete gag order like

00:31:49.280 and if i remember correctly ben we even had to send my interview footage to my lawyer before

00:31:55.280 or yeah everything in the documentary exactly everything went through the lawyers and uh

00:32:02.560 had to be scrutinized and luckily there was very little in fact i think there was only one line

00:32:11.040 that uh they just cautioned to use until after the trial was done

00:32:15.360 yeah that's right other than that everything else was a factually accurate and b was not detrimental

00:32:22.400 to the case so right yeah yeah i think everybody was a little bit scared like i remember thinking

00:32:29.280 like is this going to cause extra issues just being checked out uh you should quickly

00:32:36.640 sorry about that i had a leg go ahead bird but you know in retrospect like if we were to go back i

00:32:42.560 think i'd be you know i don't know about you guys but i'd be more vocal like i think we need to be

00:32:46.720 be more vocal about what's going on i uh i don't know if i could be more vocal i think

00:32:51.220 i think you're good i think you're good chris i think one of my main concerns especially with

00:32:59.980 burn is burn wasn't really too much on prosecutors radar um and i think my biggest concern with the

00:33:09.660 documentary because we had him as our our through line kind of a bit of our focal point

00:33:14.320 was that we were going to paint a bit of a target on on burns back so yeah it was it was definitely

00:33:22.200 a concern of mine but i appreciate you uh uh sticking it through burn anyways and uh we got

00:33:30.360 the documentary finished with you as the focal point without it having adverse effects on everything

00:33:35.940 that happened with your trial well it's pretty nerve-wracking of the whole really the whole thing

00:33:40.780 right like i was thinking earlier when you guys were talking about how people set out on from

00:33:45.320 wherever and chris you were thinking like will they be there for a weekend um you know ben you

00:33:51.220 thought you'd do a five minute special uh tamara i'm sure you had similar thoughts like we were

00:33:56.740 so naive or so i guess really unprepared it was so grassroots and so new you know something that

00:34:03.120 had never been done before and so i just remember thinking like talking to ben and i had those same

00:34:08.600 thoughts running through my mind i'm like man is this gonna is this gonna cause issues and i'm like

00:34:12.720 you know what this was started in faith and let's finish this in faith like we made a big step we

00:34:18.340 know why we did it let's just carry it on like let's just we know it needs some media we know

00:34:22.880 it needs some attention we'd like to wake more people up let's just carry on one day at a time

00:34:28.120 right it was exactly that yep anyone in convoy felt the presence of a higher power watching over

00:34:36.380 us and i think that was more you know you don't put that many vehicles in a row and make it that

00:34:42.280 far without a single incident especially in the dead of winter and the dead of snow storms when

00:34:47.000 we took 17 did you go you went to north road didn't you burn up 11 yeah yeah you know in the

00:34:52.740 winter in ontario on 17 and 11 one of some of the most treacherous driving you can possibly imagine

00:34:57.640 with snow squalls and uh you know we were watched over completely 100 what do you think our top

00:35:04.700 speed was 670 kilometers 70 kilometers yeah maybe it was hard navigating it remember that it was uh

00:35:13.180 you know you'd start to get lags in the convoy there'd be there'd be big gaps in between them

00:35:17.180 so you would back them back them down to 10 kilometers an hour until everybody caught back

00:35:21.180 up to one another and it was probably the hardest thing was navigating that and then communicating

00:35:25.900 back and forth from the radio and watching the line of come you know communication follow its

00:35:30.380 way back do you remember that well you like that's like those games that you would play as kids right

00:35:35.180 like where you sit in a circle and you whisper something in somebody's ear and it goes around

00:35:39.180 the circle and you see how telephone how that how it changes as it comes around i spent a lot of

00:35:43.580 time somewhere in the middle of the convoy and so you'd hear stuff from the front and then you'd

00:35:48.780 relay it to the back and then you'd have to correct though because everybody's like a lot of people

00:35:52.780 are hearing it differently and so you're trying like it was stretched out so far sometimes you

00:35:57.020 you have to jump it two or three times because our radios ran out of range and so it was an

00:36:03.360 ever-ending yeah just a challenge like it's it's amazing that it happened the way it did

00:36:10.120 and there were so many you know so many people just spontaneously jumping in if it would have

00:36:14.820 been just just a set convoy starting from bc and going to ontario it would have been one thing

00:36:20.780 but everywhere you stop there's half a dozen or a dozen or 20 small vehicles and a few trucks

00:36:26.820 joining in you know some with radios and some without and so it was just it was a logistical

00:36:32.820 nightmare honestly was so burn tell me um and tell us if you don't mind like what are some of the

00:36:41.140 things that you uh did when you were in ottawa i mean i know a lot of the road captains um like

00:36:47.060 some of them were on garbage detail some of them were shoveling snow you know that type of thing

00:36:52.180 like what sort of uh jobs or duties did you find yourself performing when you were in ottawa for

00:36:58.660 those three weeks i got quite a bit of flack from my wife because i didn't get out and do some of

00:37:05.460 the things and i like one of my biggest regrets is that i wasn't involved in the hockey game

00:37:09.940 i love hockey and i wasn't i was i just wasn't in the right spot at the right time um but we had

00:37:17.220 like nicholas street if for anybody that knows the geography is a kind of an outlier that's sort of

00:37:23.940 out on us on the outskirts of where the protest was happening and we remember how cold it was

00:37:28.580 well we just ended up um you guys know elmer you've all met elmer who was part of our group

00:37:34.580 he had a cargo trailer there and it was cold like part of that time was just bitterly bitterly cold

00:37:40.900 and so we had some people come by who really really wanted to help and sheldon and myself

00:37:47.680 were kind of co-road captain or not road block captains and so they were talking to sheldon and

00:37:54.760 they wanted to help and they wanted to bring food but we were already having food freezing in our

00:37:59.080 trailer because we had too much and so they were trying to be creative on how to help and so they

00:38:04.880 donated the money for a wood stove and then we had some of our handy truckers mount that wood

00:38:11.280 stove into our cargo trailer with a chimney and everything now it that was almost all donated

00:38:17.680 then people donated firewood and so because of that cargo trailer on the outskirts of the protest

00:38:23.840 with heat in there we cooked on this thing and everything um it was ended up kind of being a hub

00:38:29.680 and we heard so many stories like people would stop in and just stay a while and warm up and

00:38:34.560 tell us their stories and it sounds a lot like sir johnny you ended up like i got honestly i

00:38:42.480 got into a lot of trouble with heidi at one point because actually it was the night we got arrested

00:38:48.000 we decided she decided we needed to have this out but um she said i'm getting more information from

00:38:54.880 people at home or on social media than i am from you i'm fairly outgoing but you would get to the

00:39:01.440 end of the day and we had such a constant stream of people around you i don't know how many of

00:39:04.400 you found this you just peep you were just peopled out like you were just done you wanted to talk to

00:39:09.040 them you wanted to hear the stories every one of those people were so well-intentioned a lot of

00:39:15.280 hurting people a lot of people that just really needed somebody to hear them you couldn't shut

00:39:20.720 them down you didn't want to and but you would so we just spent so much time just interacting

00:39:26.400 with the public interacting with people in that trailer um it's it's very um exhausting like i

00:39:34.240 mean especially when you're talking to people on such an emotional level like that because

00:39:39.040 you know people in ottawa weren't coming up to us just saying oh hey how's it going i mean lots of

00:39:43.280 them would like grab us and sob on our shoulders or you know be crying and thanking us profusely so

00:39:50.720 I mean, it's a constant energy exchange when you're doing that.

00:39:54.100 And I agree, it can be really exhausting.

00:39:56.880 You remember that line from Jabba?

00:39:58.920 I think it showed up in the documentary where he carried their pain, right?

00:40:04.220 Yes.

00:40:05.340 Yeah.

00:40:05.840 And I remember.

00:40:06.420 And Bernie, you had a great, in the documentary too,

00:40:10.100 you had a great saying or a great line when you were talking about hope.

00:40:15.160 And it was like we were carrying the burden of hope, you know,

00:40:19.340 um because everywhere we went that's that's what people were telling us that we were doing was

00:40:23.980 that we were giving them hope again and so every time we'd stop it was like a little bit more hope

00:40:29.820 got piled on top of us and piled on top of us right until we're saying we're not coming home

00:40:34.300 until the mandates are you know i can never seem to remember the name of that little town on highway

00:40:38.780 11 that where remember chris we we split up this was that little town where they were looking

00:40:46.780 forward to seeing us and then they realized we were taking 17 they were going to be left out

00:40:50.380 cochran so with less than a day's notice what was it called cochrane ontario that's the one yes

00:40:56.860 so with less than a day's notice we changed plans and and so trucks and trailers essentially

00:41:02.060 took the 11 and tractors took the other one and split up kind of tried to split it up halfway

00:41:08.380 and we got an amazing royal welcome in that town and had a great evening there showed up at like

00:41:14.060 10 and 11 o'clock at night and people were basically like it was like a carnival type

00:41:18.220 atmosphere they were competing to feed us but it was like that at every stop it was there was a

00:41:24.860 long lonely stretch of road after that town the next day when we started towards ottawa and it

00:41:29.340 was started right now we're sort of in the home stretch and that's where i remember it just you

00:41:33.820 could feel it through the whole through the whole lineup like the radio had been pretty busy people

00:41:39.100 chattering people having a good time and you could just feel

00:41:45.260 yep you just felt the weight you know everybody quieted down and you could just tell everybody

00:41:52.620 was just there's a lot like they were really feeling it yeah i think i get emotional just

00:41:59.420 thinking about the amount of people i don't know the amount of tears we shed in the cab of that

00:42:04.300 truck just listening to people and watching people on the highways and the amount of stuff we've seen

00:42:08.460 was uh like it'll be something we never never get to experience again ben what were what was

00:42:14.060 it like when you were interviewing all the people for the documentary how many hours did you actually

00:42:17.980 log for for recording time and all the interviews that you did 28 terabytes worth holy crap that was

00:42:28.460 that was all of our documentary it was 28 terabytes so it was hard drive after hard drive after hard

00:42:35.260 i mean yes we're recording in raw so the files are big to begin with but hours and hours and

00:42:42.220 hours and hours and hours so yeah i have a clip here i'll see if i can i'll see if i can play it

00:42:48.460 this is uh this is burn i didn't want to ever want to be called a hero and yet people are holding up

00:42:54.460 these signs calling truckers heroes and but because they were calling us that because they had hope

00:43:00.780 again and i didn't i didn't really realize how bad it was until you saw how many people were

00:43:07.420 actually quite hopeless you know like to the far extreme of people who said i was just ready to end

00:43:14.700 it like until those trucks rolled by i didn't want it okay yes i know hey everybody can we have

00:43:26.780 somebody my buddy andy just showed up did any show absolutely we can okay hold the chair andy

00:43:33.420 oh yep okay oh that's gonna perfect there he is hi guys hi andy welcome to house arrest chris

00:43:42.460 tamara it's good to see you i've uh i've actually met all you guys tamara i've actually met you too

00:43:50.220 you uh i met you during the the hostile takeover let's say

00:43:58.620 you won't remember that it was you probably met about a thousand people there in one day but uh

00:44:05.980 yeah no that's good well it's good to try and convince you to come on tonight and i was like

00:44:11.180 i know he's pretty shy in front of the cameras but no here he is it's good to see your face

00:44:15.580 yeah that's right and so you can andy tell us about your experience i mean you obviously um

00:44:21.820 knew burn or you you worked with burn uh before you left and so what uh motivated you to to jump

00:44:27.820 in the truck with him well oh man well i was kind yeah i had to bring back some memories from uh

00:44:36.380 quite a while ago but uh what what i think uh i think along with everyone else there was just uh

00:44:46.700 that that hopelessness there was nothing really happening right there was little sparks going

00:44:53.340 going on in the country um little things you know going against this agenda and uh

00:45:03.020 but it just felt like it wasn't enough there was like jordan peterson we heard of him a couple times

00:45:13.900 but nothing it seemed like we were alone right and it was just us doing our thing

00:45:20.220 here in our little communities we'd set up our own little things how do we how do we you know

00:45:27.020 how do how do we fight this thing and uh and then it was just it's everything came together you guys

00:45:35.900 you guys set this up and well we and it exploded right it was just boom and and

00:45:45.260 thousands if not you know millions of people later on all of a sudden we've seen this hope

00:45:52.620 and we want to do something andy was even more of a last-minute decision than i was i think i had

00:45:59.900 kind of concretely made up my mind to go about a week before convoy and andy i don't think it was

00:46:04.780 more than a couple days it was three days i think yeah what was it was on a friday we were leaving

00:46:11.420 and we ended up being on sunday oh yeah that's right yeah yeah yeah no it was uh it was a fast

00:46:18.540 decision decision and uh well worth it but again thinking that we're going to be gone two weeks

00:46:25.660 tops right yeah yeah exactly well i mean nobody nobody would have even imagined three weeks i

00:46:32.540 mean if we would have started this thing and said we'll be in ottawa for three weeks i mean i don't

00:46:37.100 think you know we would have had quite the turnout that we did or the support that we had because we

00:46:43.580 certainly did not expect to stay that long and nobody was going to plan to leave their homes

00:46:47.420 for that long so you're right it just grew into this question before that everywhere we went it

00:46:53.820 seemed like like like you couldn't there was definitely i don't the presence of god was in

00:47:00.300 and through this thing and i think it's it's a coincidence i know but my my time from leaving

00:47:06.540 until time back home was 40 days it wasn't you know that has biblical significance i think

00:47:12.140 yes yes i was there i was there uh i think uh a week less less than you were yeah bern had stayed

00:47:22.780 a little longer just his truck was uh impounded and and so right so i don't think we haven't

00:47:36.460 talked about this but burn burn you were arrested and what were you charged with

00:47:41.900 uh mischief and mischief obstruct property

00:47:49.740 answer some questions for some life insurance and one of the questions was have you ever

00:47:54.140 had criminal charges against you and i'm like uh i guess so

00:48:02.700 when we go back to andy and me starting off on this trip i don't know if that ended up in the

00:48:08.460 come in the documentary or not but it was an interesting story because it really played into

00:48:13.740 how unprepared we were or how how organic this thing was because we left pretty late on a sunday

00:48:20.460 we left about five or six o'clock at night on a sunday and after that local thing that ben was

00:48:26.220 talking about so it was already dark by the time we even got to dawson creek and there was like

00:48:30.540 two people honking their horns at the ufa as we went through there all by ourselves one truck

00:48:35.660 right and we're headed headed towards edmonton so we get through edmonton like in the middle

00:48:42.060 of the night and we stop for a sleep like an hour past edmonton go wake up in the morning

00:48:49.020 and we're intending to meet up and join in like we had a bit of a schedule intending to meet up

00:48:54.060 with convoy not lloyd minster the next one over right like north battleford maybe uh was it i think

00:49:02.620 it was north battleford because that was what was looking like it was going to be our time

00:49:06.220 our time right well my coffee maker we went to make i meant to make coffee in the morning my

00:49:10.540 coffee maker was broken or frozen and so we're like well now we got to stop for coffee so we

00:49:15.500 roll into lloyd minster at a mcdonald's we're just going to run in to grab coffee and as we're rolling

00:49:19.420 to the mcdonald's i hear on lab one on a radio channel is there anybody on here that's going on

00:49:25.180 convoy and all i just said like i responded they're like we're on that on a different channel

00:49:31.660 a lot too or whatever so we get on that channel they're literally a block away just getting ready

00:49:35.980 to leave lloyd minster if we wouldn't have stopped for that coffee because they're caught we would

00:49:40.060 have just rolled right through lloyd minster we would have missed these guys so we roll through

00:49:43.900 the back way and we get into this husky truck stop where the trucks are congregating and traffic

00:49:49.100 control weighs us out in the front and then we led that little mini convoy all the way to north

00:49:53.500 battleford it was amazing wow yeah that was a good start wow and then every stop stop like you guys

00:49:59.340 know this every stop since just grew and grew like you know in north battleford now we went 0.89

00:50:05.820 from 20 vehicles to 40 or 50 and then as you carried on towards vagina and then once you 0.92

00:50:11.420 rolled into vagina you're like whoa like this is taking on epic proportions we heard of the bigger 0.98

00:50:18.860 group coming from from uh southern southern bc right yeah was that you chris no no no that was 0.99

00:50:28.220 uh it started in in vancouverish area on the morning of the 23rd wasn't it yeah right and

00:50:34.780 uh lost track of the road captain that was involved with that i can't remember his name

00:50:38.540 right now but i'm sure it's going to come to me soon and uh derrick barnsley derrick barnsley yes

00:50:45.180 but we were there was a few road captains that we had at the beginning that never did

00:50:49.260 make it to ottawa so yeah yeah you got kind of a barred like with there's so many people you're

00:50:56.300 you know converting with so many people there that you lost track of who you were and like

00:51:00.460 bern said before there's so many people that were there and wanted to wanted to have a conversation

00:51:04.780 with you spent your days having those conversations and exchanging stories and you were almost

00:51:09.980 physically mentally exhausted at the day or you're at the end of the day well i mean we said often

00:51:15.580 right um sometimes in ottawa one week felt or one hour felt like a week like so many things could

00:51:21.180 happen in one day you'd sit down and you know be talking about something that happened that

00:51:25.420 morning but it felt like it happened last week it was it was incredibly busy incredibly busy

00:51:32.140 i think that that kind of answers the question of how emotional it was doing all the interviews as

00:51:38.300 well yes yes because it was like i mean it was utter chaos and an emotional roller coaster the

00:51:47.660 whole time every time you went out you spent 15 16 hours with the camera someone would text you oh

00:51:54.060 hey this is happening over here on on uh on this street and so you couldn't drive anywhere so you

00:52:00.700 would trudge all the way across and then you get there like oh no this is happening over there and

00:52:06.940 you trudge back over there you spend 16 hours wandering around and minus 20 uh doing taking

00:52:13.340 interviews doing uh b-roll flying the drone and i'm not supposed to fly the drone in all these

00:52:21.660 kind of things get back to the hotel room and you'd have the war room uh emailing you with like

00:52:28.700 hey we need a clip of this we need a clip of this we want a clip of this we want to see this and so

00:52:33.820 you'd like try to cut together something for them send them some video clips for them to use on

00:52:38.860 their social media uh and then you'd watch the news for 10 minutes and you'd see this is happening

00:52:45.020 this is happening this is happening and you're like okay so i'd make a mental list uh write it

00:52:51.100 down and then the next day we'd go and hunt for that okay well there this is white supremacy is

00:52:56.860 like okay well there's definitely a lot of other ethnicities in here yes uh so you you know try to

00:53:05.660 combat it with with uh what you were actually experiencing on the ground or there's a tremendous

00:53:11.100 amount of hate and okay well let's see what kind of violence or hate or you know words are being

00:53:18.860 spread around and it's like well i'm not seeing any aspects of that and so by the end of the day

00:53:26.220 like you said tamara 15 16 hours out there and you get to the hotel room you literally close

00:53:32.540 your eyes and by the time you open them up it was 9 a.m and you're like oh i'm late

00:53:40.700 unless you were sick with covid and then you didn't really sleep that well at all but you

00:53:44.060 just kept going anyway yeah i can't remember um somebody had said i can't wait somebody wanted me

00:53:52.940 to do a newsmax interview and there maybe it was bj i can't remember but anyways he's like you got

00:53:57.820 to be up at 6 30 to do newsmax and i'm like uh-uh i ain't getting to bed or tilt to sleep i mean of

00:54:05.980 course well i don't know how you guys are but i know like i would go to bed and you know lay there

00:54:11.100 for a few minutes just trying to go through everything in my head sort out what happened

00:54:15.260 that day like it was really hard to shut off um but once i did shut off i slept like the dead

00:54:21.660 for sure one of the big things i think too ben you were able to to work with rodney palmer canadian

00:54:27.420 you know legendary journalist uh foreign correspondent overseas and he gave an amazing

00:54:34.540 perspective of just the the inter media attitude when it came to how the news was portraying the

00:54:40.860 convoy compared to how social media and he actually went out and did his best and you

00:54:44.860 worked with him and he's in a lot of the documentary which was a really really good

00:54:48.060 feature to see him in there and explaining all this stuff than the narrative that went on

00:54:54.620 yeah he was he was a wealth of knowledge as far as like his his you know history as a war

00:55:01.020 correspondence or uh in combat zones or uh you know controversial type things like the um he had

00:55:11.180 covered the oh i'm trying to remember it was the swine flu uh it was uh and and so i'm trying to

00:55:26.620 trying to remember what what news story was but overseas and so he had dealt with something very

00:55:31.420 similar to what was happening with covid uh and so he he approached everything working with us uh

00:55:41.660 um approached everything just like it was a regular news story and so he was seeing

00:55:47.020 and especially with his background being with cbc ctv global he had a like a laundry list of

00:55:52.940 using these he had worked with uh and to see him be like well this is obviously fabricated this is

00:56:01.340 obviously a crafted message they had uh these photographs that weren't even part of this

00:56:07.660 uh part of this event and they're posting this as as the event uh they're not on the ground

00:56:13.660 and so he would go and try to find his colleagues that he used to work with and on the ground and

00:56:19.180 is like they're not even getting footage of the actual convoy they're not down here

00:56:23.180 or if they are they're inside a fence you know two blocks away where the convoy actually where

00:56:29.260 the protesters aren't actually even attending so it was just a complete fabrication of everything

00:56:37.340 witnessing in comparison to everything we were experiencing on the ground and like that's that's

00:56:42.860 against you know what you're supposed to be doing as as a reporter as a journalist

00:56:51.340 yes you're riding school that played well when he said it was farther for the journalist to

00:56:55.660 walk to their car than it was to the protest site i felt that was really powerful yeah

00:57:02.460 his testimony was incredible did you go into it intentionally seeking out um these media

00:57:09.980 professionals i guess if you want to put it that way because you had more than more than just

00:57:13.020 rodney on there like judy and judy stinson and some other people involved in yeah in media it

00:57:18.940 was powerful like i remember the first time seeing the documentary ben didn't give me a screening at

00:57:22.940 all i was i put my life in ben's hands he just he's like you don't get to see any of this you

00:57:28.300 just get to show up in a theater and watch it with everybody else it was so powerful like those

00:57:32.700 perspectives from people that have spent their life in journalism so powerful well and i can't

00:57:40.460 take any credit for getting connected with uh with all these individuals they were

00:57:47.820 they fell on it fell in our lap uh there was a lot of people coordinating it was word of mouth

00:57:54.780 so-and-so talked to so-and-so talked to so-and-so and it just uh yeah they spoke for us on our

00:58:03.020 behalf almost divine it was almost divine wouldn't you say that was a divine divine direction for

00:58:09.340 sure it was the right people with the right skills that just showed up at the right time when you

00:58:13.820 needed them the most 100 yeah so there's no credit that i can take as as far as getting connected

00:58:20.140 with all the individuals we interviewed and the their experiences and their uh expertise that

00:58:27.100 led itself uh to the documentary and everything we were trying to cover as well um the one thing

00:58:33.260 i still am very disappointed about within the documentary is our goal was to do a balanced view

00:58:40.620 and and part of that was to bridge that gap in communication right so you have those that were

00:58:47.020 very heavy on the left saying these things very heavy on the right and some of it wasn't necessary

00:58:52.780 necessarily political either uh but you had these differing views and they were so far to the

00:58:59.420 extreme so we wanted to get you know those that were against the convoy why uh what were the facts

00:59:06.620 that they were they were basing their disagreements on what were the their talking points and we only

00:59:14.460 had well two interviews that that were you know against the convoy in certain aspects of it but

00:59:24.780 they weren't really that that really strong bold view on the other side um and so we actually

00:59:30.300 didn't use a fair amount of their interviews because for every point we'd only have these

00:59:35.420 two people doing counterpoints and it wasn't really going to be fair to them uh you know

00:59:40.460 having them as the only voice that was opposed to the convoy so we we used a few of their interview

00:59:48.060 interview pieces but not a lot of it um so that was one aspect i we had lots of i mean death threats

00:59:55.980 and a lot of us calling us join the club let's get t-shirts and all that kind of thing so the

01:00:03.740 propaganda wheel and so we would invite them to do an interview with us well i'm i'm curious of

01:00:09.740 your perspective i really want to have this voice in the film as well to balance out and see where

01:00:15.180 you're coming from and it was always a a denial or just disconnect didn't want to talk we haven

01:00:22.620 had we rented a a hotel room downtown ontario and i paid for ads all on facebook and on instagram

01:00:33.180 downtown that we were here for 48 hours in this hotel room had an empty chair sitting there waiting

01:00:39.580 and and that was one of the individuals that showed up uh that were opposed to the convoy

01:00:44.540 uh we only had one show up in two days wow sitting there with an open chair just try it

01:00:49.980 i mean we tried to get uh it was hard to advertise that out but uh uh yeah we tried our best and and

01:01:00.060 just didn't get any takers on our interviews which is unfortunate that's too bad i'm getting a lot of

01:01:06.140 questions here um people want to know where they can find your documentary unacceptable

01:01:12.300 and um do you want to just let them know where they can find it i meant to get them for your

01:01:17.500 eagle eagle vision vision preference too but i thought let's go ahead

01:01:22.300 not a problem it's a www.unacceptabledoc.ca is there any streaming services allowing it right

01:01:30.140 now online yeah so you you can either order a hard copy uh or directly off that website there

01:01:38.460 um and that's a blu-ray dvd or a usb stick as well um a lot of people like to have the actual

01:01:46.540 hard copy uh and then there's vimeo that has a streaming service um that's a available for

01:01:53.340 people to rent the movie or purchase there as well and then you can uh stream it on amazon prime

01:01:59.980 but only in the us uk uh japan and germany wow they don't want it eh sorry i just want to confirm

01:02:11.020 that was www.unacceptable.ca that is correct okay perfect so tell us a little bit about that

01:02:19.020 am or you you can't watch it on netflix or prime in canada correct so basically canada has

01:02:28.700 what's called a non-self-submission uh uh route for amazon uh for amazon prime so we can submit it

01:02:38.300 to uh amazon for the u.s or globally uh and then those countries can select it's approved

01:02:46.380 uh to be played on their platform or not whereas canada has to seek out the documentary so what

01:02:53.340 they typically do is they allow people to do a self-submission to the u.s and if it gains enough

01:02:58.460 popularity then they'll seek then we'll receive a letter saying hey your your uh documentary has

01:03:05.660 gained some traction in the u.s uh we would like to uh also include it in the canadian version of

01:03:12.220 amazon prime but uh everybody there's your calling right now if you're in the united states and you

01:03:19.020 have netflix or prime you can actually watch unacceptable and make sure people know about it

01:03:24.700 that you want to see more of it and then maybe we can get this streaming in canada where it's badly

01:03:29.660 needed under the censorship that we live under i'm just going to give you a word of advice though if

01:03:35.500 you sit down and watch it make sure you have a box of tissues very close because you're not going to

01:03:39.980 make it through the first five minutes i assure you i was in saskatoon for the premiere with my

01:03:46.540 parents and my mother came up to me afterwards and grabbed my arm and she said yeah i think i

01:03:50.620 went through a range of every emotion she said i was i was sad i was happy i was proud proud i cried

01:03:56.620 and i was mad yeah absolutely absolutely loved it i remember us showing it in in uh at biker's

01:04:04.060 church in ottawa the first time and it was one of the first time i'd met up with some of the people

01:04:08.620 that we spent some of that time on nicholas street with and i looked over at my buddy scott and i

01:04:12.620 thought he was going to have a heart attack i just saw melissa in the chat by the way

01:04:18.220 she's in israel right now i think so very cool for her to show up hi melissa if you're still here

01:04:23.740 i hope you're having a great trip we're still gonna keep hugging you about not coming up to

01:04:28.620 fort st john melissa i actually had asked if she would could come on with you guys because i thought

01:04:35.260 that she would be such a great fit i mean you guys had so many interactions with you well i think you

01:04:39.100 You know, you, you met her at Bikers Church and, um, so anyways, but we'll, we'll, we'll

01:04:44.240 get her on again with you guys next time. 0.99

01:04:45.920 One of these episodes, we're going to have to have Melissa McKee on and some other people 0.99

01:04:50.260 to explain the backstory behind, you know, Byrne, you were arrested.

01:04:54.940 Let's, let's get into this because you were firsthand right in this.

01:04:58.040 You were arrested and what was your story after you were arrested and how was the Bikers

01:05:02.980 Church in downtown Ottawa involved in that story?

01:05:05.820 um i guess some of the credit would go to sheldon beckman um shout out to him from manitoba he was

01:05:14.980 our block captain and he had found bikers church earlier on just as a way to pass the time you

01:05:22.700 know somebody that you know if if you're a churchgoer back home and now you're stuck in

01:05:28.360 ottawa for a month and you're looking for some of that connection and some of that you know just

01:05:32.760 somewhere to go and worship and and so he had found this church and i don't know how i mean

01:05:38.400 divine appointment again right but melissa and rob had been very very outspoken against a lot

01:05:45.060 of these measures and they they'd had to make some tough decisions like are we going to

01:05:49.420 are we going to pursue this are we okay with with what's going to come our way if we speak out are

01:05:55.080 we going to be okay and they really really felt very strongly that just there's always room for

01:06:00.300 one more was their tagline you know when we're faced with with limits on how many people can be

01:06:06.120 in our buildings and how many and and yet they look their church and you guys have all been there

01:06:10.580 is in a very it's in a tough neighborhood it's in a neighborhood that has a lot of felt means

01:06:15.480 and they minister to people with some serious issues on a daily basis people that depend on

01:06:21.200 that church for food for clothing um and if you've ever met melissa prince which that woman has a

01:06:27.260 heart the size of texas oh my gosh powerful girl and just an ability to love people where they're

01:06:33.400 at um yes he does and so they yeah carrying on to so we had all gotten a little bit familiar with

01:06:41.320 bikers church through through our time there and then when our block got hit and as far as rounding

01:06:50.260 up these criminal truckers our block was one of the first ones to get hit it was early on a friday

01:06:55.200 morning so now you've got people you know like three quarters of a block lived in their trucks

01:07:02.940 so now our trucks are impounded where are we going to stay and so they had lined up and it was through

01:07:10.060 some people with some organization behind the scenes that were lining up people to to uh or

01:07:16.820 people to to house us people to take you with people that were actually begging just for some

01:07:21.260 interaction with truckers like they they were asking like can you send a trucker our way we'd

01:07:25.180 love to host a trucker like they wanted to get to know some of us and um it's there's not enough

01:07:31.520 time to tell all the facets of this story but one lady it's very interesting a lady that had brought 0.77

01:07:37.080 us a full turkey dinner while we were there and then tamara you had mentioned you know you're

01:07:42.000 holding these people these people come by and they tell your stories and they're heartbreaking

01:07:45.840 stories and she fed us this turkey dinner and then outside that was inside the trailer then

01:07:52.940 outside the trailer i remember holding her for about two two minutes as she's just cried on my

01:07:57.480 shoulder yeah yeah she wanted to help and she had been arrested three times for trying to get in to

01:08:03.780 see her dad in an old folks home who was in a situation where he he was having i think a bit

01:08:11.040 of early Alzheimer's or what I thought it was early whatever he recognized his daughter and

01:08:16.880 he could not wrap his mind around why his daughter wouldn't come to see him not understanding that

01:08:21.860 she was being barred from seeing him and it was heartbreaking then fast forward to us being

01:08:28.960 arrested um there's always talk about inside jobs Sheldon was missing the day we got arrested

01:08:34.900 he and another guy from our block drove home to Manitoba for a chance they got a chance to go see

01:08:40.300 their wives they went home and i think it's an inside job i think sheldon there's something we

01:08:44.300 didn't he steers another guy in who gets there just in time to get arrested that was uh what

01:08:50.400 was his name art art art art i call it that left his tractor because he got there literally on

01:08:55.740 thursday and was arrested friday morning got his window smashed like just rolled in just in time

01:09:02.880 to experience the worst of it anyway so sheldon's not there so now it kind of fell to me to try

01:09:10.040 and make the best of this situation not me but you know like i was a block captain

01:09:14.840 and so it got to be about 10 o'clock at night on friday and everybody had found a place to sleep

01:09:19.880 and i'm like oh i don't have a place to sleep where am i going and i ended up at the house of

01:09:26.120 this lady that had fed us that turkey dinner and her sister a couple of older ladies sleeping

01:09:30.760 downstairs on this little twin bed with flowered like it was all flowered cute little grandma house

01:09:37.400 and that's where i ended up sleeping like it just came full circle it's uh but bikers church was

01:09:43.400 where we all regrouped after being arrested and most of us had never been arrested before this

01:09:48.600 is all pretty traumatic like it's all a new experience that i don't necessarily recommend

01:09:53.720 but it's traumatic and so now we were regrouping um yeah it was i could still and i want to just

01:10:02.520 take a step back here burn because i mean the part about your arrest now if i remember correctly

01:10:09.240 you were arrested um you were put in a transport for quite a few hours with your

01:10:18.280 hands behind your back basically uh yeah basically um um driven to the outskirts of

01:10:27.320 ottawa and dipped off in a snowstorm is that's correct right and you had you had biker's church

01:10:32.520 number i believe written on your arm in case something like that happened we but what time

01:10:38.760 were we arrested like andy actually andy got to watch a lot of this because we had i took a lot

01:10:44.520 of videos yeah me and uh me and my buddy paul um but yeah we it was in the morning it was seven

01:10:52.600 clock yes early morning uh paul was there early and he texted me and and they he better come down

01:11:01.320 here you know it's going down and so i rushed down and sure enough wow what a show just uh

01:11:10.680 yeah cops pointing their guns and in windows and and i mean this was this was an emergency this was

01:11:19.800 yeah the peaceful protest and and law enforcement reacted with with you know live ammunition and

01:11:27.120 firearms pointed at your face and but i think i think they've arrested you but they took you on

01:11:32.600 the outskirts of the city and basically dumped you off in frigid temperatures with no way back and it

01:11:38.080 was you know the biker's church that organized ways back to warmth and safety right yeah and

01:11:45.640 it's interesting how you can zero in like you i don't know it's a survival instinct i guess to

01:11:51.540 just focus on what's going on in your bubble and not even i didn't even notice until later on like

01:11:58.740 a later video or photo somebody said me i didn't realize there was a guy on top of a flat bit 15

01:12:05.240 feet in front of my truck pointing a machine gun in my cab as i was being arrested i had zero idea

01:12:09.100 that didn't register i was just focused on those five guys pulling me out of my truck

01:12:13.420 just unreal yeah um so the total elapsed time was i think it was in the neighborhood of three

01:12:21.080 to four hours from the time of being arrested till the time they kicked us out you know they

01:12:26.040 fingerprinted us wanted us to sign some paperwork um didn't sign this paperwork they told us when

01:12:32.040 you walked out of the gates don't turn right you're going back into the red zone you'll be

01:12:36.020 arrested again turn left um luckily we had most of us did have phones back with a bit of charge or

01:12:42.420 whatever so that we called for a ride and that took a while and then we found our way back and

01:12:48.120 the time frame was such that when i got out i was just able to catch my family on their way to school

01:12:55.280 like being three hours apart in time right and so they had already heard that i'd been arrested

01:13:00.720 but then i was able to call them on their way to school say hey i'm out i'm good

01:13:06.780 there were some pretty horrific that was your son's birthday wasn't it yes it's your son's

01:13:15.220 birthday if i remember correctly where he yeah i mean a lot of people don't know that i mean this

01:13:20.120 is some of the stuff that uh the evidence did come out at the public order emergency commission but

01:13:24.360 a lot of people don't realize how many truckers and supporters were had their hands zip tied

01:13:29.620 behind their back who sat in freezing cold paddy wagons for hours and then basically got dumped in

01:13:35.300 a snowbank and i remember uh interim chief stephen bell said made a comment about it and defended it

01:13:42.980 saying that there was a bill there was a there was a building right there but it was like a city

01:13:47.180 maintenance building is what i was told um and there was the you couldn't get into even access

01:13:52.400 the phone so i mean there was a lot of a lot of very questionable behavior that happened post

01:13:58.920 arrest for a lot of people and i mean that's that's one of the points that of this show house

01:14:03.940 arrest that we want to get those stories out too you know because a lot of people don't know

01:14:07.740 don't know that burn you know look how you were treated and then kicked out in a snow bank and um

01:14:13.620 yeah don't come back i remember talking to christine like i think it it comes out in the

01:14:21.980 and i may get made fun of it because i call it a steel aluminum box or whatever but the uh

01:14:27.520 the paddy was not what i pictured it being you know with these nice wooden one along each side

01:14:34.480 and you kind of you know you're in a group you're together they were individual

01:14:38.560 cubby holes where you were separated from each each of your the people that you're getting

01:14:45.660 arrested with and there was i'm guessing there was like eight of them on that vehicle 0.65

01:14:49.900 but i could watch i watched as christine in handcuffs was walking around the front of the

01:14:54.200 vehicle and i was in the right the right front compartment in this van and then i heard the door

01:15:01.560 open and shut opposite me so we were able to talk through the wall as we're being driven down the

01:15:05.960 road and i don't usually get car sick but there were so many corners and so like you're you can't

01:15:11.240 see anything you're in handcuffs you're sitting really awkwardly my shoulders are hurting on

01:15:16.360 metal on steel cold steel and so like i was almost car sick by the time we finally stopped you're

01:15:22.120 finally just glad to get drug out of that thing and then here we go like you have no idea what's

01:15:28.040 in store for you because you know like they're not being like we're not being treated in accordance

01:15:34.680 with our rights and our freedoms our constitutional rights anymore like it's all out the window like

01:15:39.800 the institute of this emergency act what's next you know we just you don't know you're very much 0.82

01:15:47.000 at the mercy of the whim of the people that did that slaughtering ostriches is what's next

01:15:54.440 question is what's next after that yeah that's the scary part yeah the canadian

01:16:01.800 charter has been violated so many times in the last number of years and especially throughout

01:16:05.640 the convoy the easy thing to do would have been to have a conversation with half a million people

01:16:09.320 that showed up on the doorstep of parliament hill but they didn't want to do that they didn't want

01:16:14.200 to have that conversation instead they use violence against its own citizens and burn you're the

01:16:19.400 perfect example of you know of the abuse that did that you know transpired that night being kicked

01:16:25.720 out in the snowbank and you know where's the humility in that or the compassion from our

01:16:32.280 reelected leaders humanity humanity well if i remember correctly it was the interim chief that

01:16:39.320 was going to hunt down everyone involved in the freedom convoy and sanction them financially

01:16:45.560 remember yeah we were going to hunt them down and be punished that's what his words were i believe

01:16:51.480 we had uh i had i remember a friend in my church who was very adamant that we needed to stop

01:16:57.720 arguing on the basis of the charter we needed to use a bill of rights and that's well beyond my

01:17:02.360 pay grade i know there was a lot of people that really believed it that way and yet it did come

01:17:07.240 through and my lawyer who you guys are familiar with as well um ended up successfully arguing

01:17:14.200 a charter challenge in my case and got my charges thrown out um because i was not lawfully arrested

01:17:21.960 and then when they got information from me that was invalid because of the unconstitutional arrest

01:17:30.680 and my hope and prayer had always been that it wouldn't be a it wouldn't be a lone victory it

01:17:36.040 wouldn't be just me because i did feel a little bit like i'd gotten off lucky i'd gone you know

01:17:41.400 when when my case wasn't appealed when my decision wasn't appealed as so many were but then we see

01:17:48.280 and i forget the fellow's name it was the day before java's victory also by a charter challenge

01:17:52.760 rate um there's a robert donnell i think that's yeah that's the one so i was really happy to see

01:17:59.800 that precedence being set and and that used later on uh because we know precedence matters and you

01:18:05.000 were like one of the first ones um who who has not had your acquittal appeals well first of all

01:18:10.280 you're one of the only ones that's been acquitted um but you're one of the very first ones too that

01:18:14.760 the the crown didn't appeal that acquittal so i mean we were so happy for you burn

01:18:19.400 yes when that when that day came and went we were all breathed a sigh of relief for you my friend

01:18:24.360 what was it like burn you're sitting there waiting for 30 days i mean tamara and i were just in this

01:18:28.600 situation although we were pretty sure of what the outcome was going to be but you were 50 50

01:18:33.240 we didn't know where they were going to go whether it be the launching appeals or not

01:18:36.600 you want so badly to go and celebrate you want so badly to go like just yes but you're afraid

01:18:41.960 to because you're still looking over your shoulder you know that feeling um and until like just a

01:18:47.080 massive sigh of relief when that 30-day window closes and like now i can celebrate yeah i was

01:18:52.360 thinking i'd get my cell phone back here but they appealed like last week and now i still don't have

01:18:57.480 my cell phone the cell phone that i was arrested with the cops downloaded 4200 pages of evidence

01:19:02.520 off is still in ottawa police custody right now wow and they will not give that back to me until

01:19:07.880 after all trials are complete so whenever that will be remember when all those messages accidentally

01:19:13.720 on purpose got leaked to glenn mcgregor from ctv news on a flash drive that was left on a desk for

01:19:18.680 him to pick up wasn't that weird i mean it's easy to see how that accident happens right oh yeah

01:19:23.160 exactly yeah happens to me all the time all those private conversations with my wife and my children

01:19:29.080 and my ex-wife and my parents and yeah even lawyer conversations wound up in that which is another

01:19:33.960 charter why i don't know why that couldn't have been used you know in some way but there was a

01:19:39.000 lot of a lot of things that went around there but i have felt well lucky for us gentlemen the truth

01:19:45.720 will always come out eventually it will come out it might be long after i'm dead but i do believe

01:19:52.280 that eventually it will come out it will come out i remember hearing um tamara's voice especially

01:20:01.240 about both of you when we were in ottawa and and the just the refrain that kept coming from anybody

01:20:07.960 that was making addresses was the importance of keeping everything peaceful and that came from

01:20:14.440 both of you guys it came from multiple other people anybody that was in a position to make

01:20:19.560 those addresses was on the same page at that point and i i told people this and i i strongly believe

01:20:25.560 this they should be honestly like like look at it look logistically look at the differences of

01:20:31.240 opinion look at the depth some people were willing to sink to to discredit what we're doing to make

01:20:37.400 it color it differently like it was a powder keg it could have gone very very differently 100 and

01:20:42.680 so why not give you guys a medal for how that turned out instead of persecuting you for months

01:20:49.000 and years on end through our court system you know i found it kind of funny not funny i'm not going

01:20:53.720 going to say it was funny but before our sentence the judge praised us basically for you know keeping

01:20:59.020 it peaceful and working with law enforcement encouraging others to work with law enforcement

01:21:02.640 and always you know keeping your head and not and then sentence this to what she did it kind of was

01:21:08.760 a little bit of a blow it was almost like you were sitting there and she was building you up for what

01:21:11.940 you did accomplish and then at the end of it oh here you go 18 months house arrest it's a little

01:21:18.100 bit discouraging but you know what we we take that like we have for the last four years and

01:21:23.860 and just keep moving forward and adds to the story right so we can do i mean that's all we can do you

01:21:31.300 know a lot of people ask chris and i like how we do this or you know how we how we get through all

01:21:37.620 this stuff but really i mean at this point it's basically become our life really you know like

01:21:42.260 It's just every day we're dealing with something, some legal matter in some form or another.

01:21:48.620 So it's just a continuation of what we've been dealing with up till now.

01:21:53.740 I mean, the good thing about the appeals court is that we won't have a lot of trips to Ontario

01:21:58.300 because most of that's just done with paperwork.

01:22:01.140 And in most cases, the lawyers don't even have to show up.

01:22:03.800 But, you know, we're looking at probably six months minimum before this gets before the Court of Appeals.

01:22:10.020 and then it will be another year and a half to two years after that if it goes to a retrial

01:22:14.180 before there would be a retrial so you know chris and i will have already served our sentences by

01:22:18.660 the time um that opportunity comes around should it should it happen well i'm sure ben and andy

01:22:25.300 would echo this with me like your just your attitude through this thing i think has been

01:22:30.980 just a testament to the canadian resilience again in good old canadian people you know just

01:22:37.220 being able to do this with the attitude that you've had is we've had so many people behind

01:22:42.260 us and with us and that's the huge thing i think and and i never want to not mention that that it

01:22:48.260 was never just us there there were so many people so much involvement and it it takes a it takes a

01:22:54.660 group like that in order to pull off something as as peaceful as that right so and there was

01:22:59.940 instigators in the crowd we knew that we we dealt with those people i i think i almost got into

01:23:04.820 about most people even know three physical alter altercations with protesters in the ottawa

01:23:10.180 downtown place because you know they you know working with law enforcement law enforcement we

01:23:14.580 need this intersection clean and and uh and yeah it got a little heated some days

01:23:22.420 well because we weren't controlling anyone like nobody there controlled anybody else

01:23:26.900 you know we could suggest things or ask for people to help us do things but we couldn't

01:23:31.380 get on our social media and and um be telling everybody what to do i mean that was not our

01:23:37.860 place everybody was a leader i mean that's the thing this was a leaderless movement

01:23:42.740 um you had people like us that were participating and helping to organize but i mean i i i'd never

01:23:49.460 saw myself as a leader of the freedom convoy i felt i i felt of myself as a support role

01:23:56.340 you know what i mean so um but that's nice of you to say burn i appreciate that and well chris you

01:24:02.100 touched into like how amazing it was the lack of incidents on the on the trip there i've often

01:24:08.180 thought about even just the dynamics of like you think about who ended up finally standing up and

01:24:14.580 it was it was blue-collar people essentially like i'm not saying there weren't white-collar people

01:24:20.420 but it was independent business owners it was truck drivers it was just people that are very

01:24:26.980 used to thinking and making their own decisions and those are also tougher people to get on the

01:24:32.180 same page sometimes like like just try and rally a bunch of truckers around a local cause you know

01:24:38.500 like we need to get our rates up or or you know need to get some road improvements you can never

01:24:44.100 get them all on the same page so just to have us all on the same page in ottawa from coast to coast

01:24:50.100 with that type of unity that's amazing it's absolutely amazing that that amazes me to this

01:24:54.820 day how that went at times it was like herding cats so you know that right yeah

01:25:02.660 but i love that burn because that's really i mean at the end of the day um all of those truck

01:25:08.820 drivers were there and supporters and they didn't all see eye to eye and they didn't agree on

01:25:12.980 everything and in some cases they didn't even like each other but everybody put that aside

01:25:18.820 and we work together for a common purpose and that's why i still have hope for canada because

01:25:24.420 i feel like that is the canada that i grew up in you know you don't have to be friends with

01:25:29.700 everyone you don't have to like them but i mean you can still find some common ground or come

01:25:33.460 together for a common purpose instead of focusing on the things on the ways that you're different

01:25:39.940 right and that's what we've become we don't celebrate our differences anymore we hammer the

01:25:44.500 heck out of them and um and just don't there's we need to get back to that fundamental unity

01:25:53.700 i think i hit my breaking point this week on social media especially tick tock with watching

01:25:57.700 the amount of negativity and and the utter distraction that the people that were on

01:26:03.620 that side of history are using against other people standing against government overreach 0.80

01:26:08.260 right now and i hit a threshold of that where i was like enough of this crap this is getting too 0.79

01:26:12.580 much you guys need to quit fighting and quit pointing fingers all the time and then you'll

01:26:17.540 see me disappear from social media for a little while and that's my break that i need to uh try

01:26:21.700 and regain my composure again before i you know go completely insane that's a little while for you

01:26:28.660 chris like a day off or yeah i'll usually take a couple days i'll go through i'm on that phase with

01:26:34.260 with x right now where i won't post anything for a little while and then i'll i'll get bored with

01:26:38.740 something and want to fire up a few and x is like my the grounds of just trench warfare when it comes

01:26:45.940 to fighting the left i don't know why they're so attracted to me on there but it just makes

01:26:50.900 me happy in small ways no that's interesting that you said that tamara because i uh i got an audience

01:26:57.780 with a family member after you know almost four years later that hadn't had a conversation about

01:27:03.700 conway before and that was what i was trying to point out to him was that three weeks prior to the

01:27:11.300 arrests was i felt like like you saw the best of canada you saw the best of canadians in in

01:27:19.060 just that ability to put all differences aside and and appreciate each other and yes you know

01:27:25.300 just walk in unity just like the feeling of patriotism that was downtown can't be replicated

01:27:31.700 like i i don't think i'll ever feel it again i will never see it like that again i would love to

01:27:36.100 but it was so powerful and it was amazing i wish more people could have felt that feeling i wish

01:27:42.860 more people would have turned the tv off in their house and especially in the downtown core turn the

01:27:47.360 news off and walk out the door and greet your neighbor instead of uh listening to that fear

01:27:52.240 mongering that was going on because it honestly scared a lot of people and that fear is still

01:27:56.380 being portrayed today i know trish woods has did a documentary on it and interviewed a bunch of

01:28:00.720 people in the downtown core and they to this day are scared of blue-collar workers because of convoy

01:28:06.120 which is sad yeah yeah it's uh well like I've talked about it before you know she interviewed

01:28:15.360 that lady that had never yet like you said seen a truck driver before or somebody that worked in

01:28:19.080 the oil patch and um she admitted that it was it was just her own ignorance right but but she still

01:28:25.860 was too afraid to go outside because she'd never met a truck driver before so you know that those

01:28:32.300 people are out there unbelievable we had our own convoi here in fort st john so i mean little

01:28:40.740 communities did get together and and had their unity right that was good to see we were excited

01:28:47.240 about it hearing about it and uh in ottawa there's a lot of people ben were you were you uh in fort

01:28:55.340 john at the time i'm sorry i just had uh the boys come in the room here i missed the question

01:29:02.940 no i was talking about the the little convoy i guess it wasn't that little

01:29:07.020 like for us it was it was quite a good size um convoy that we had in in our town

01:29:14.780 yeah that was a week later that was to like for when we rolled in right

01:29:19.100 and it went it stretched from port st john almost like two-thirds of the way to dawson creek i think

01:29:25.900 or half the way to dawson creek was like a 30-clock convoy wow yeah it was significant that's

01:29:32.860 for sure yes yes all right well you guys we've had you here for we've been streaming for an hour and

01:29:42.280 a half boy time flies see i told you that today burn didn't i you just start talking and you know

01:29:47.780 pretty soon before these shows start i'm like oh my god what am i going to talk about and then you

01:29:52.660 know an hour and a half blows by and uh well my mother-in-law was like well i hope you uh you have

01:29:58.020 the answers for the interview that you need and i'm like it's not an interview it's a hangout

01:30:03.380 that's right it's a hangout that's exactly right

01:30:08.260 ben give my give my best to johanna and the family and everybody i hope you guys are having

01:30:11.860 a good little holiday down there it's been a while since we're enjoying i'll uh put the

01:30:16.740 camera around hi guys there's the family nice to see you guys amazing family guys amazing family

01:30:25.780 again you can find the documentary unacceptable uh from eagle eagle vision video productions

01:30:33.220 that's a multiple sorry ben at www.unacceptable.ca so check that out you guys are going to love it

01:30:40.660 and please let us know what you think so ben burn andy i can't thank you guys enough for coming we

01:30:46.660 definitely have to do this again thank you so much for joining us and taking time out of your days to

01:30:52.100 come and visit chris and i on our house arrest thanks guys appreciate it it's been awesome

01:30:59.700 take care guys i had to hide before me too there been burn sorry yeah yeah thanks take care

01:31:06.260 yeah bye well that was pretty awesome that was so much fun yeah tell a joke or something i'm

01:31:14.240 gonna load up some mean tweets here i uh i i've seen a couple comments and they're asking about

01:31:18.740 big red so uh the forfeiture on big red is coming up on i believe it's november 26th i might have

01:31:24.020 got my dates mixed up 24th or 25th 26th i believe it's the 26th we have another day of hearings

01:31:29.540 there um we're still up in the air with that right now it's it's basically it's going to be a big

01:31:34.420 legal battle but big red is not not safe from the courts yet so there's still quite a bit ahead of

01:31:40.500 us on that and because of the delays and the court time postponed november 26 will be another day yet

01:31:47.340 for hearings and then we're still waiting on a judge we need to make a bunch of arguments and

01:31:51.460 she needs to come up with some decisions on whether the ontario government can forfeit a

01:31:56.520 piece of property out of another province especially when that piece of property was

01:32:00.660 never seized in the act of the alleged crime so um lots there but we appreciate it going in person

01:32:08.420 you're not going there in person are you chris you're attending that virtually yeah i'll attend

01:32:12.720 that virtually i've made enough trips to ottawa that i'm just happy staying on the prairies here

01:32:17.340 and and uh most people know jonathan's truck was involved in an accident here a couple months ago

01:32:22.800 we're uh working through the insurance on that right now and uh we've been working on it

01:32:27.420 ourselves with with the help of one of our local red seal mechanics that comes to our shop and

01:32:31.840 works and Jonathan's truck is running as of this week and is sitting on two wheels on the front

01:32:37.400 axle the the whole system is in place the hood is in moose jaw an amazing customer custom body shop

01:32:44.860 in moose jaw has repainted the parts truck hood for Jonathan's truck and painted it white so next

01:32:52.140 week it will go to a frame and wheel alignment spot about Wednesday it's booked in there and

01:32:56.920 they will do the frame check on it the wheel alignment on it and it'll go to moose jaw and

01:33:00.560 have the the hood put back on it in the front bumper and then we need a safety and she is back

01:33:07.180 and running and jonathan he's pretty pumped to have his baby back i bet he can't wait wow that's

01:33:14.360 amazing it's amazing that you could that you've gotten fixed it so quickly wow it's been yeah i

01:33:20.220 don't want to take much credit we're working on it i helped jonathan with it a little bit but

01:33:23.460 uh our good friend tanner has been over working on it a lot with jonathan and they've accomplished

01:33:28.500 quite a bit it's it's been quite a bit of work but but uh thankfully she's going to be rolling here

01:33:34.180 soon right on okay well i got some mean tweets loaded up here you guys this is uh i hope we

01:33:42.180 can do this more often but i found some real doozies here today so i found four for me um

01:33:47.940 today and chris sent me one so i'm going to bring up um this lovely lady here 0.98

01:33:56.100 i'm sorry these are hilarious this lovely lady uh the nerve of this criminal she's talking about me

01:34:01.860 this is this is for me um i made a i made a post on remembrance or the day before remembrance day

01:34:07.300 so here she is the nerve of this criminal to make that post when she took the freedoms away 1.00

01:34:13.940 of all the people in downtown ottawa she couldn't be any more disgusting she she really fortunate 1.00

01:34:21.540 we had real freedom fighters that fought for our freedom that enabled her to be a fool 0.99

01:34:26.980 in downtown ottawa isn't that sweet thank you barb oh barb barb karen yeah 0.88

01:34:35.860 oh my gosh respect to karen zilter by the way but no karens so this was a funny one that i saw today

01:34:44.500 where somebody called me like the see you next week name and so this place like uh l lg at lena

01:34:53.780 d i guess says that's what she is hope her kids if she has any or ashamed of her story lena my

01:35:00.980 kids are extremely proud of me yes mine as well yeah um uh here we go it's this one

01:35:09.700 i think it's one of the best i actually retweeted it excuse me you should have never

01:35:15.780 have been elude elude internet access three years bail hope arrest and internet access

01:35:24.740 is an example of stock crime oh we live rent free a lot of people's skulls it's so true and you know

01:35:33.700 what it's really really annoying these people is that like you know they're they were hoping that

01:35:40.820 we were going to get thrown into jail even when i was in jail i wasn't miserable because i'm just

01:35:45.060 not a miserable person but you know that really irritates these people when they see us laughing

01:35:49.700 or having a good time or not suffering in any way um here's a doozy that you found today chris i'm

01:35:56.260 going to bring this up and i'll let you read this one oh boy there's my favorite fan do not agree

01:36:02.340 with violence there are things that chris done to people that are horrific promoting lies to his

01:36:07.460 friends who show up people's houses stock their families his antics or have airlines removed

01:36:15.220 on rigs dead animals on doorsteps chris is not a nice guy well for one thing i find that ignoring

01:36:24.020 people like this are is the best bet because all they're doing is looking for attention

01:36:28.740 and when you mention their name you validate them unfortunately so

01:36:32.740 it's nice that we can expose these people for who we are

01:36:37.620 dead animals you're like leaving this you say you're leaving dead animals on people's

01:36:41.940 porches or something yeah and then smashing airlines on the front of a trailer so i don't

01:36:46.420 know how but uh i'm quite a distance away from wherever that lives and i could say that i i

01:36:51.860 don't i don't i love animals i love animals too all right everyone well i that's uh that's pretty

01:37:00.740 much it for us this week on house arrest with chris and tamara i want to thank you all so much

01:37:04.900 for coming i'm hoping to be here next week but as i said i have a grand baby coming so

01:37:09.300 So I'm going to do my best.

01:37:12.120 One more time, I wanted to put out our email address,

01:37:15.220 18house.arrest at gmail.com.

01:37:18.100 So please feel free to send us your questions, your comments,

01:37:21.340 guest suggestions, suggestions for the show,

01:37:23.700 and of course your hate mail,

01:37:24.860 because you too could be featured on House Arrest

01:37:26.720 in our meet-week segment.

01:37:28.260 What are we doing next week, Tamara?

01:37:29.580 Do we have any ideas yet?

01:37:31.040 Yes, we do.

01:37:32.620 We've got Gordon McGill and Ray McGinnis

01:37:34.540 who are going to come on,

01:37:35.320 and we're going to have a great chit-chat about coots

01:37:37.440 and what happened in coots.

01:37:38.740 as you know, Ray is a journalist who's done an amazing job covering the story. And also Gord,

01:37:45.840 who's also done an amazing job. Gord is a truck driver from Canada who now lives in the United

01:37:50.100 States. And he's done a great job of covering the story too. So we really, really looking forward

01:37:56.100 to having those guys on. There was one more thing I wanted to mention, and I think we're going to

01:38:00.260 start this next week. We're going to be doing the fundraiser of the month because there's so many

01:38:04.860 people that we know from the injured to people like chava that are still trying to raise legal 0.93

01:38:09.100 fees to the coots boys themselves there's so many everyone um so we're going to be featuring a 0.98

01:38:14.460 fundraiser but they're personal fundraisers so we will not be asking for donations personally

01:38:19.740 if people have a give send go or a crowdfund set up we will take the month for that fundraiser

01:38:26.140 and promote it and so i think it would be very fitting next week if we started

01:38:30.380 uh our fundraiser of the month with the coots boys so i'll have links for those um campaigns

01:38:37.420 up next week and uh yeah we're looking forward to seeing you all again next week awesome thanks

01:38:43.020 everyone it was an awesome conversation today we hope to do more of this yeah have a great night

01:38:47.980 chris just stick around and i'll we'll have a chitchat here with burn before we all say good

01:38:51.340 night good night everyone thank you so much i'll see you next week bye

01:39:00.380 Thank you.

House Arrest - November 14, 2025

Ep 4 - Mandate Freedom with Bern Beukert & Ben Haab

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