00:13:18.500Here's a gentleman that is standing up and pushing back against it.
00:13:21.320And he is just being he's been through the ringer.
00:13:24.420Jim McMurtry was a educator with over 30 years of experience in B.C., I believe, is where he was teaching, obviously, when all this went down.
00:13:34.200And in class one day, he was substituting one day shortly after the announcement of the radar at Kamloops and, you know, simply, I'm paraphrasing, obviously, he can tell us the whole story, but simply told his students, you know, don't jump to conclusions.
00:13:51.060It might not be a murder. You know, a lot of kids that were in residential schools died from
00:13:56.300illnesses. And he was hauled out of school. He was he was escorted out of school that same day
00:14:03.280and suspended the next day. I believe it was in October of 2025. He was formally terminated from
00:14:09.460his position. But he's still out there fighting. And we're going to talk with Jim tonight. And
00:14:15.280we've also got JCCF lawyer stopping in later to talk about their case that they have their
00:14:20.620petitioning to the bc supreme court on jim's behalf so without further ado let's bring on
00:14:25.260the one and only the man the legend mr jim mcmurtry welcome to house arrest well i'm under
00:14:31.300house arrest as well in the sense every time i go to a school the police are called so
00:14:36.580oh no oh gosh well it's so great to have you here jim um i mean again your story is absolutely
00:14:45.840incredible you know just for saying like just a remark about you know we can't jump to conclusions
00:14:53.200what what you said wasn't wasn't wrong um but i guess when they're trying to shove a narrative
00:14:58.780down everybody's throats they don't like it when people offer um alternative uh points of view
00:15:04.560yeah the year that i was walked out was the year that uh senator lynn bayek was was forced out of
00:15:12.320the Senate. So there's, you know, Canada really went through a strange period. And you two know
00:15:20.020that best, but the hysteria over George Floyd, over COVID, over all sorts of things. And I would
00:15:29.780say residential schools would probably be part of the big three there. And in my situation,
00:15:35.740in saying something, and this is what my lawyer asked me to say before the show, make sure I don't
00:15:40.720say anything i'm not supposed to which is the tendency of mine and that is the first thing so
00:15:45.840but he's not on yet so so hit me with some hard questions early on yeah and uh but the first thing
00:15:51.600he wanted me to say was i was teaching calculus 12. my principal asked me to talk about residential
00:15:57.840schools i kind of went okay you know that it's just not not something it was kryptonite in my
00:16:04.000hand it was just not something i wanted to do the second thing is in canada we are entitled to fair
00:16:09.200comment. And there was something that I said that was that strayed in any way from what the truth
00:16:16.880and reconciliation report had indicated. And I was walked out by two vice principals within half an
00:16:23.860hour of saying what I did. And the extraordinary thing about that for me was, since then, I've
00:16:29.680never talked to any of my supervisors, never talked to my colleague, the guidance counselor who
00:16:34.760reported me, she wasn't in the classroom, so I didn't know how she knew really what I said.
00:16:39.200just went right up to the top it's like in your case went right up top to the prime minister
00:16:43.680you know without ever wanting to meet you without ever wanting to get to know
00:16:47.420the story and hear from all sorts of canadians all of a sudden you know everybody underneath was
00:16:52.860was working to uh publicly pillory us and uh so my story i think you know because you inspire me
00:16:59.880you both so much is um and as i said before to you it's the idea what you two have done is you
00:17:07.780haven't moved from your position. And I think this is what we lack in Canada, the courage of
00:17:14.320our convictions of just saying no, and nothing is going to bend me, no amount of money, no amount
00:17:20.520of punishment. And that's over time makes us very, very powerful. The third thing I need to say is
00:17:28.960not just my employer took away my fundamental right to free speech, this happened to you,
00:17:34.060and other fundamental rights, particularly in regard to being able to express history in an
00:17:42.200honest way and so forth. But what it is, well, my union and regulatory body came in
00:17:47.920and also canceled my fundamental rights. My own union, and this is why the JCC is involved in my
00:17:56.760case and more will be said about that a little bit later with a lawyer. And what's fascinating
00:18:02.340there is that complete abandonment by the people to whom I paid dues for so many years.
00:18:10.440And so what we're trying to do all the way to the Supreme Court of Canada, change the
00:18:15.360constitution in Canada, where unionized workers cannot be abandoned, cannot be blocked by their
00:18:21.740own union from seeking redress, from having, again, charter rights.
00:18:27.760yes absolutely and that was one of the shocking things that i read about your story was that your
00:18:33.860union didn't really do anything for you and then they when it was dismissed they wouldn't even let
00:18:38.380you fight it yourself personally can i tell you a good story about my union um yeah within a few
00:18:44.400weeks of the the uh the horrible october 7th massacre uh 1200 mostly young jewish people
00:18:51.240it gave $50,000 to Hamas. The $50,000 comes from teachers dues. So these unions, they're not
00:19:00.980directly, the people at the top are not directly elected. So they create all these layers. And so
00:19:07.300they're very good at making sure nobody who represent like myself, who represents the vast
00:19:12.120majority of teachers will ever be able to move up higher in the echelon. As well, they have posted
00:19:18.360on their website to this day a big display which they push on teachers and students about the 215
00:19:25.840kids that were found in Kamloops and so that's my story you know that didn't happen there was
00:19:31.940no murder at any residential schools I knew that it's part of my my own education my own training
00:19:37.800I also as a teacher know instinctively that teachers don't do that to their students
00:19:42.380if there were 215 kids murdered at that school that would have been more than half the population
00:19:48.600of the school there's never been a single child missing there are only two children that were ever
00:19:54.560um that ever died at the school pearl joe and adrian george and they died both of accidents
00:20:00.580in a period that extends well over 100 years and and the sad thing is um the very sad thing about
00:20:07.680for me is is people don't recognize basic things like that kids don't die at school right and yes
00:20:15.200it happens so there's been kids that have died at my school there's a recently a child who died
00:20:19.040during a basketball game a student of mine horrible but when kids get sick they're put
00:20:24.320in hospitals or they're they're sent home if it's palliative so this idea that the truth
00:20:29.920and reconciliation commission which is now the national center for truth and reconciliation
00:29:52.200So it's, it's really awful when the Canadian military,
00:29:56.200military, particularly when you think of, again, this is Canadian history of the mounted police
00:30:02.080and how important they were in creating Canada, to see them used as tools right now for the worst
00:30:09.640elements in society and for the virtuous signaling elite, the tribal society that know this is all
00:30:15.900a lie, all these things are a lie, and yet they're doing it because they want to say, oh, look what
00:30:22.000I've done for this group or that group. So it's just sad that the police have taken a side in
00:30:27.060Kamloops. They've never dug. They've never investigated. Five and a half years later.
00:30:33.480Yeah, exactly. It sounds like the EA. Well, I mean, we've talked about this, obviously,
00:30:38.600with guests on our show before, but, you know, we've gone to a society where we are protecting
00:30:43.920the criminals and vilifying the victims, whether you're talking about your case, whether you're
00:30:49.760talking about sexual assaults that are you know running rampant in canada right now uh the
00:30:55.080gentleman in uh manitoba that was just arrested for you know protecting his property he was also
00:31:03.040arrested for protecting his property from thieves that went on to his onto his land so you know
00:31:07.220canada's gone from a country that protects its vulnerable um to a country that protects the
00:31:13.760criminals and vilifies the victims did you guys hear the story in ontario i believe it was in
00:31:19.320Ontario in the Brantford somebody can correct me in the comments yet a Sikh man home invaders three
00:31:24.440three people busted into his house his family was there they took them down the whole family in the
00:31:28.320basement and in in the result of that is his son was shot and killed in front of him and he wrestled
00:31:34.220the weapon away from one of the intruders and he shot one of the intruders and the other two or
00:31:39.300three ran away he's now charged with murder yeah that's incredible this is our country and the
00:31:46.960crown prosecutors are okay oh i know our crown prosecutors are too far gone to save after what
00:31:52.120we've witnessed throughout our trial and our and our procedures in the last number of years but
00:31:55.920this is absolutely disgusting and vile and i don't know how we continue to go down this road without
00:32:01.260people saying hey i'm okay with this this is canada now we're so complacent and compliant and
00:32:06.340come on well i see uh hadam has showed up so this is great i just want to quickly uh congratulations
00:32:14.920I think it's great news that the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms has your back, Jim, as they have had hours.
00:32:21.680They, you know, they're they're amazing, an amazing organization.
00:32:25.300So I'll just read a bit of this article.
00:32:27.380This was a July 28th news release announcing the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms have filed a petition for judicial review in the Supreme Court of British Columbia on behalf of former high school teacher Jim McMurtry.
00:32:42.020the petition asks the court to review a label labor relations board decision after mr mcmurtry's
00:32:48.780union declined to challenge his dismissal arguing that the board failed to consider his charter
00:32:54.020right to freedom of expression um and we don't need to get into that so without further ado
00:32:59.580let us bring on hadham to uh let us know what's happening with your case so great to see you
00:33:06.760Hi Chris, Jamiro, Jim, good to see you all.
00:51:38.940And it's just a wonderful, they talk about in the school system about equity, which, and they don't mean equity because it's all inverted terms.
00:51:47.780but but if they really cared about equity but and the original sense of the word of justice and so
00:51:52.820forth they would be you know they would they would darn it they would care about the fact
00:51:58.120that they're crushing little people these institutions yeah and so without lawyers
00:52:03.940how can we fight back oh okay it's well yeah i never imagined that i would have so many lawyers
00:52:13.300in my life um and you know i grew up you know there are people always joke about them you know
00:52:18.260what's the the only good lawyer is a whatever lawyer anyways but you know uh we've we've had
00:52:24.340we've been really really lucky you know really really lucky to have the lawyers that we've had
00:52:28.420i mean look at the j it was the jccf that flew into ottawa keith wilson was contracting uh for
00:52:33.940them at that point of a chip yuck um you know there was uh i think five that flew in for the
00:52:40.740first few days and then three of them headed back home um but then of course through through our
00:52:45.940lawsuits uh our various lawsuits and so so i agree you know i think um i feel very blessed to have
00:52:53.620the ones in my life i'm sure there's bad ones out there but there's bad there's good and bad
00:52:57.540everywhere and in all things and i feel like you know chris and i for sure have been very blessed
00:53:02.820to have some of the best lawyers in this country working with us on on all these cases so and just
00:53:10.100can i say one more thing against the institutions that are adversarial what about the kids so you
00:53:16.660remove a teacher exactly like me no i think you've heard me speak long enough to know that i don't
00:53:23.300come across as a monster i know my subject well i did all these extra things for kids i was always
00:53:29.380after school doing stuff on weekends i just you know i was i was good at what i did and then they
00:53:35.780take me away and and they think oh we is tamara said earlier but we purge the system because
00:53:41.460that's what critical social justice is it's about a purge it's a religious thing the woke wokeism
00:53:47.060is a cult it's a religion you know it's masquerading as a religion or maybe something
00:53:52.260is social justice but it's it's a religion and it's about control and dominance and making sure
00:53:56.820people at the top have ever more money and power and maybe all the land chris talked about our
00:54:01.860premier in bc earlier and you weren't all that flattering about but evie thank you so much he
00:54:07.860wants to give bc away he's from ontario comes to bc gives it all away and and this is going
00:54:14.340to cause a civil war um and um so but just bringing it down to the fact you you invited a
00:54:21.300school teacher on and and i'm not a i'm not a big shot francis is more of a big shot get her on and
00:54:29.220smartest can be and toughest can be but but i'm but i matter in this way i matter to my students
00:54:35.860yes if not all teachers are great either well you said but many are that i had students that
00:54:42.740were really attracted to me because among other things i tell them the truth i give them the
00:54:47.220goods right i didn't lie to them i didn't i didn't play games and that's what they want to know about
00:54:52.340history or about about anything in life and yet you get in trouble the moment you move toward
00:54:59.060truth and away from the script and this is such an injustice to canada and it's such an injustice
00:55:05.780to young people and darn it nobody in can among all these institutions from trudeau and carney
00:55:13.140all the way down carney even he's abandoned his own father rejected his own father who was the
00:55:18.420leading expert for a time in indian residential schools robert carney dr robert carney at the
00:55:23.700university of alberta he said oh i love my father but you know i don't you know not don't like his
00:55:29.540views um and i'm going my gosh the everybody in canada has to stop and say and demand that all
00:55:37.940these people that lied to kids in school millions of kids across canada about teachers murdering
00:55:44.100murray sinclair who got an order of canada said 25 000 or more children are murdered and missing
00:55:50.740if that's not true and there's no evidence that there's a single one
00:55:55.000kids need to be told and more importantly for me teachers who tell to you kids the the gospel
00:56:04.460truth who just say kids well this is my understanding that's my ability and i always
00:56:08.780start like that i i'm no wizard but i always say it's my understanding that you shouldn't get rid0.97
00:56:14.980of the people tamir as you said so brilliantly a few minutes ago the teachers that think
00:56:20.300critically. Otherwise, you're going to put kids in an environment where there's just going to be
00:56:26.000stultifying emotional rubber room. You can't see this and you can't see that. You can't move this
00:56:31.240way. You can't move that way. You might jostle somebody. And it's just this idea that kids
00:56:35.900aren't going to be able to survive in this world if they're coddled to this extent.
00:56:41.980I guess the thing is, you know, I thought I've always believed that education was obviously
00:56:47.160to educate but it was also to teach children how to think critically how to ask questions what
00:56:54.420questions to ask you know to seek the truth and now we've gone into this thing where we don't
00:56:59.380want them asking any questions that we just want to dictate to them tell them one side of the story
00:57:04.400and if you question it well then you end up kicked out of school or fired or in jail you know like we
00:57:11.780want our kids to grow up and be and push back and and think for themselves and ask tough questions
00:57:18.180well see it's the conditioning society is it not this is what canada is now the conditioning of
00:57:24.380society you follow the narrative that the government sets forth if you go against that
00:57:29.200narrative we will destroy you we will use the the system like you've said before tamara the system
00:57:33.960that was established to protect canadians is now being used against canadians anyone that dares to
00:57:39.940go against the narrative yeah exactly and the narrative that's the most important and i know
00:57:44.940people associate my story with having to do with history and so on but the most important thing
00:57:50.320isn't my issue at all is being a teacher in the school system in the last 10 years0.80
00:57:54.760and seeing little children sitting on the labs in school of drag queens who are being aroused
00:58:01.980while this was happening and my the high school i taught in surrey had drag queen performances
00:58:07.920and they didn't tell the parents i mean it's just it's dark and it's concealed um but the worst of
00:58:14.520all and i think of my good friend barry neufeld a school trustee in show black british columbia
00:58:20.260and run out of out of well run he's in a you know he's got three huge settlements against him
00:58:26.940meaning costs against him the last one being for over 750 000 the worst thing is happening in
00:58:35.080schools in our society is that they're taking children and convincing them that they're in the
00:58:39.660wrong body. It's largely girls. And there are an awful lot of, there's hundreds and hundreds of1.00
00:58:45.120mastectomies, maybe 600, hard to know exactly, every year in Canada of girls being cut because
00:58:52.580there's criminal Mengele-like adults in the school system who are saying to them, well,
00:59:00.360you're vulnerable, you're not fitting in, you don't have any friends, you're not doing well
00:59:03.900school you don't have much money your mom and dad are fighting you whatever it is all these things0.97
00:59:08.220here's a solution yeah change yourself change your gender be sterile for life and then do bottom0.76
00:59:15.100surgery afterwards and and and never know what it's like to have children or what it's like to0.94
00:59:21.500have an orgasm i mean this is just the most cruel thing to do and so thank you for having me on your
00:59:28.620show not so much frankly because of my issues i'm going to hammer those issues away and i've0.94
00:59:33.340I've got Francis on my side and Dallas Brody and others.
00:59:37.300But the issue of taking advantage of children sexually.
00:59:41.960And I posted today about a school in Nanaimo school district that are still out on this all across Canada.
00:59:48.820They're still asking kindergarten kids for their pronouns.
00:59:58.480I know I can see you're a boy, but how do you see yourself?
01:00:01.860And the second thing they're doing is you're prying into a child, a four or five-year-old's sexuality or sexual thoughts, which hopefully aren't there, but they're trying to create.
01:00:12.920And so I represent among, forget me, I'll probably never work you and I'll probably never anything again.
01:00:19.720But in the time that I'm given, and in this show right now, because you see that I've got a lot to say, is that we can't afford to allow any longer these woke cultists to do what they're doing to their school.
01:00:36.460And we can't allow people in our institutions or elitists to take away fundamental freedoms, the right to gather and protest and speak what's your mind and defend workers as you did so honorably.
01:00:47.140yeah you know what i've noticed too and there's just another thing aspect to that right now i
01:00:52.040don't know if you follow lawrence a bird of proud dad in uh in alberta he's in the calgary area what
01:00:57.860he's in alberta was he designed a website for concerned parents in with it with children in
01:01:03.640the school system if they have concerns about woke teachers indoctrinating their children
01:01:08.860they can go anonymously to this website and they can and they can make a report and then what
01:01:13.500lawrence is going to do is and tabulate those reports and those numbers and feed them to the
01:01:17.560education minister the backlash that he has received from the alberta uh teachers federation
01:01:24.220or whatever the name of it is is absolutely horrible the amount of threats he's had upon
01:01:28.820himself the doxing that he's subject to you know you're flying over the target when you're taking0.86
01:01:34.640the most amount of flack that can't be true that can't be true chris because they're the most
01:01:39.700tolerant loving and inclusive group in canada right so i i i think you must be pulling our leg
01:01:47.540here there's some serious issues and what we need to get back to in schools is education
01:01:55.700yeah no space for hate we need to get back to that and and when they're saying about a trans
01:02:00.500kid if i had a trans kid in the classroom which is about one out of you know one other 50 000 kids
01:02:06.500who's really gender dysphoric or whatever i would be so good to that kid as other teachers would be
01:02:12.260but the reality those kids are almost never i've never had one truly like that i've had many that
01:02:17.700have been pushed into changing transitioning and they're always saying well we have to respect them
01:02:22.900and we have to care about them it's just like we have to care about the noise for the people in
01:02:27.220ottawa uh during your protest and going well what about what about everybody else that is just being
01:02:33.380tyrannized by by these covert regulations at the high school is that i was written up because i
01:02:39.620was wearing a face mask instead of a face blocker instead of a mask i was told it was okay but i
01:02:45.860they still made it an allegation and you know reported on me and so kids had to walk in the
01:02:50.900hall and specific ways you couldn't drink in a water fountain there was no water at school
01:02:55.700because uh you know just you had to bring the water and bottom of you didn't you didn't drink
01:02:59.940all day and and my my grandchildren they go by a park and there'd be nobody at the park
01:03:05.700and and and they step past the tape that was around it and and you know people say i'm gonna
01:03:10.260call the police on you the kids too has nothing to do and so this is people this is all interrelated
01:03:17.460they're they're after yes government is overreaching and it has to stop yeah 100 well
01:03:25.380Well, we need to protect our children.