00:02:03.680So, you know, after after the convoy, that was the, you know, the way that the convoy was taken down and all the uncertainty with like, OK, what's going to happen to us now?
00:02:14.120Was when my wife and I were like, we need to get out of the Ottawa area.
00:02:17.820and so we started right away you know getting our house ready to put on the market took some time
00:02:24.360because we're also kind of you know we're doing some research on different things we had learned
00:02:29.840during the convoy trying to figure out what was real what wasn't and then also um kind of i would
00:02:37.600say battling like a like a form of depression for like a good like three months until finally i kind
00:02:42.540of just like snap myself away and was like okay you have made zero progress on getting your family
00:02:49.920where they need to be it's time to get moving and so that was when we really started to um
00:02:55.740you know work on getting the house ready for the market and making those arrangements what was the
00:03:01.140depression about danny well i think the you know the feeling of betrayal you know you you know people
00:03:10.140for the better part of a decade you feel like they're your brotherhood and then all of a sudden
00:03:18.460it's like it's seemingly almost overnight you're you're one of the team to you're the enemy and
00:03:27.380you know i i saw police do things during covid and during the convoy that i never ever imagined
00:03:36.120i would see in canada and part of it like i'll admit i was i was worried i was worried they were
00:03:42.600gonna come for us given that you're here with chris and tamara and danny and tom and that was
00:03:49.160such a big moment can you maybe just explain what that was like for you and maybe interact with them
00:03:56.760a little bit about what collectively that was like to be part of this historic but awful moment and
00:04:03.160And, of course, the irony of you being the signatory to this document.
00:04:09.500Yeah, well, it was quite unusual and startling,
00:04:15.220although being there at the time and talking to Keith Wilson
00:04:20.240and some of the other people who were with us at the time,
00:04:23.580there was something that came to us through other means
00:04:29.620indicating that it was likely that the federal government was going to invoke the Emergencies Act.
00:04:35.500And we were completely shocked at the time.
00:04:38.380But knowing the various things that had happened up to then,
00:04:42.980our shock suddenly turned to, well, what do you expect?
00:04:47.820And the first thing that came to my mind was,
00:04:50.420in introducing, in invoking the Emergencies Act,
00:04:54.160they were also subject to the Charter.
00:04:56.320And the Charter of Section 1 says you must demonstrably justify that what you're doing is constitutional, follows the Charter.