House Arrest - February 03, 2026


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00:00:00.000 hello everyone how's it going out there welcome to a special edition of house arrest on a monday
00:00:26.040 evening no less how you doing i am good how are you just reading over some also some documents uh
00:00:39.000 my voice i was in calgary over the weekend and did a lot of talking and uh and yelling
00:00:45.240 in good ways over some crowd noise so my throat's a little bit rusty here but
00:00:49.800 it was pretty good yeah it was really good
00:00:57.720 that must be our guest i'm assuming popping in yeah there he is okay perfect
00:01:02.440 uh we have a special special uh edition tonight um we had breaking news from the justice center
00:01:07.400 regarding the case conference hearing um of our civil lawsuit our 290 million dollar class auction
00:01:13.800 lawsuit so before we uh bring john on i just want to bring you up to speed here i'm going to try to
00:01:19.560 share my screen i'm not technologically inclined by any means okay let's see if that comes up
00:01:30.760 uh there we go okay the justice center announces that a significant procedural development has
00:01:39.160 occurred in the 290 million dollar class action lawsuit targeting peaceful freedom convoy protesters
00:01:45.400 and donors at a case conference held on thursday january the 29th 2026 justice calum mcleod agreed
00:01:52.760 to hear a motion brought by the defense seeking a permanent stay of proceedings because of the
00:01:58.200 plaintiff's failure to disclose a settlement agreement to the defendant's legal team fairness
00:02:03.720 in the justice system depends on full and timely disclosure according to the loss of constitutional
00:02:08.600 lawyer and our lawyer james manson now i have another article here i want to bring up
00:02:21.240 this is the article from the jccf
00:02:25.560 from this morning justice center for constitutional freedom yep
00:02:32.840 this was the the release that the justice center put out this morning
00:02:37.240 the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedom so I didn't bring it up one second see I told
00:02:41.800 you you're not technologically inclined the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms
00:02:46.840 announces that a significant procedural development has occurred in the 290 million
00:02:51.240 dollar class action lawsuit targeting peaceful convoy protesters okay I read that already the
00:02:57.080 settlement agreement was signed in April of 2024 between the plaintiffs and one of the defendants
00:03:02.200 chad eros at the time mr eros did not have a lawyer formally on the court record under the
00:03:07.880 agreement once it was signed mr eros was required to provide all relevant documents in his possession
00:03:13.400 to the plaintiff's lawyers within 60 days and take part in a private meeting with them to discuss
00:03:18.040 those documents mr eros also agreed to forward a settlement amount to the plaintiffs within six
00:03:23.880 months all in exchange for his release from the action however it is alleged that the settlement
00:03:30.040 funds were never paid the agreement was not shared with the other defense lawyers until january 20
00:03:35.160 2026 nearly 19 months later so i i mean i'm not going to totally get into reading all of the
00:03:42.040 bulk of that um this is obviously going to have an effect on our case so i'm going to bring on
00:03:48.120 our guest john carpe and i'm also bringing on our good friends uh tom marazzo and danny bulford
00:03:55.800 welcome to the show everybody come on in we got a house full here tonight we do
00:04:02.760 to see everyone good yeah thanks so much for joining us again john it's uh i'm so glad to
00:04:09.880 be with you for making the time uh this is a pretty significant development as your press release
00:04:15.800 said um what are your initial thoughts on the case conference hearing from thursday
00:04:20.680 Well, so we have a shot potentially at pausing the action indefinitely, right? So this is the $290 million lawsuit brought by the Ottawa bureaucrat Zexy Lee and the Happy Goat Coffee Company and other Ottawa residents who think that losing a few nights sleep entitles them to $290 million.
00:04:43.440 dollars I'm being a bit facetious but um in class actions you if you want to make a side deal to get
00:04:52.880 out which is what happened here so so Chad Eros who was in Ottawa and you know busy and active
00:04:59.420 and involved in participating he's one of the defendants in this 290 million dollar lawsuit
00:05:04.380 now he's entitled to uh try and make a deal and say look you know I'll pay you uh I'll pay you
00:05:12.680 money and you remove my name as a defendant that's okay people can try to advance their own interests
00:05:19.220 but it has to be above board and it has to be disclosed and the other defendants have to know
00:05:25.400 about it and this has been I think quite dishonorable these last 19 months of of doing this
00:05:32.580 secretly again if it's if it's above board it's legitimate you can as a defendant try to get
00:05:39.100 yourself out of the lawsuit and say look you know I'm going to pay the plaintiffs you know whatever
00:05:44.840 fifty thousand or ten thousand or whatever and I want you to you know get me out so you're no
00:05:51.580 longer suing me that's okay to try that but the rules are such that it has to be done fairly and
00:05:58.340 above board and so now the lawyer James Manson who is on the case he's part of the Justice
00:06:06.040 center's network of lawyers um he's making an application that the entire uh class action
00:06:12.920 should be put on hold indefinitely because of this unfairness
00:06:17.640 well agreed i mean there is a there is a certain time frame i think that has been set
00:06:24.920 for for disclosure of of things like that so yeah hopefully we will we'll get a safe proceeding some
00:06:32.520 you also have the you gotta remember like this the terms for this this this deal in the courts
00:06:40.240 john correct me if i'm wrong if somebody makes a side deal and the other people in the group don't
00:06:45.820 know about that they could potentially give information or get information from that other
00:06:50.280 person unknowingly right when he's actually become a traitor to everyone else in the group is that
00:06:55.960 what the gist of it is i don't know if that's the underlying premise for the rule but it does
00:07:02.020 it seems very plausible, right?
00:07:06.200 If somebody makes the side deal and says, okay,
00:07:09.360 I'm going to pay you 10,000 and you get me off of this statement of claim.
00:07:14.160 Well, if he's no longer a part of it, part of the lawsuit,
00:07:18.720 he could say whatever he wants.
00:07:23.180 You know, he could be a witness for whatever side that he wants.
00:07:26.340 And so, you know, that's relevant, of course.
00:07:32.020 i do have the decision here from the judge let's see there we go
00:07:39.380 from the case conference so this is from our just sorry january 29th on thursday the um
00:07:48.020 case conference here paul chample the lawyer is present now one thing that i did find really
00:07:53.860 interesting that i do think is very important john is that uh judge mcleod stated in here that
00:08:00.500 he has decided not to hear um the motion for the stay and the certification motion for the class
00:08:06.980 action on the same day he's going to be hearing the state proceedings motion first and i guess
00:08:13.540 then he'll decide from there you know whatever happens so yeah um in terms of scheduling council
00:08:19.140 will recall that pursuant to the previous endorsement they were to have kept march 11
00:08:24.020 2026 and dates in july so to preface this a little bit um because that's going to be a
00:08:29.780 little bit confusing um the plaintiffs in this case their their legal counsel has been ghosting
00:08:35.860 freedom convoy legal counsel for months uh they had set a timetable for us to get um our affidavits
00:08:44.100 and get the certification for the motion for certification before the court and all that
00:08:49.460 stuff and they'd set a timetable and they failed to meet it and then ended up ghosting all of the
00:08:53.860 lawyers so until they set this case conference that was the first time that any of us heard back
00:08:59.380 from paul champ he yeah no lawyers are supposed to whether you're acting for the plaintiff or the
00:09:07.300 defendant you're supposed to adhere to timetables so that's uh it's not right especially if you're
00:09:12.900 the plaintiff you're trying to move it forward of all people uh some defendants typically try to
00:09:18.580 delay that's you know normal and to be expected but the plaintiff uh is seeking to move things ahead
00:09:25.860 yes and what was that one they and they indicated they the plaintiffs i think indicated that they
00:09:36.480 would be arguing against the safe proceedings emotion based on the fact that no money had yet
00:09:42.440 exchanged hands between um chad and and and paul's office correct and that's a re that's the reason
00:09:51.080 why you know we're not assured of a victory on that you never are anyway you could have the
00:09:55.620 strongest case in the world. I mean, certainly some of the Justice Center's cases against
00:09:58.620 lockdowns were very strong. We had fantastic evidence and judges chose to ignore the evidence
00:10:06.020 before them and write the media narrative into their court rulings. So even a strong case doesn't
00:10:10.920 guarantee you success. But here, you know, this is something the judge might find persuasive. It's
00:10:18.080 like, well, okay, you signed this agreement, you should have told us about it, and you haven't been
00:10:21.680 upright and upfront and you haven't followed the rules but you didn't really see it all the way
00:10:28.000 through right with with whatever the amount was i think it was 60 000 or so if the money hadn't
00:10:38.400 testify against others and hand all documents over in relating to any evidence that he may
00:10:43.520 may have right well i don't know the details of that deal are you saying chris that the
00:10:48.960 the, that, that agreement says that Chad arrows was, was planning to turn over.
00:10:56.580 You've got a copy of the agreement.
00:10:58.060 I do.
00:10:58.320 Yes.
00:10:58.920 Okay.
00:11:02.700 I haven't read it.
00:11:03.540 So my, my understanding, my understanding on the details was he had 60 days to turn over
00:11:10.860 the evidence, but he had six months to pay all champ the $60,000.
00:11:16.940 so in in essence in the first two months of that six month period he turned over everything that
00:11:23.420 he had and then couldn't come up with the sixty thousand dollars to give paul champ and so he
00:11:28.540 lost the deal so he turned it all over for free but he's still on the hook i mean a paying sixty
00:11:35.820 thousand dollars is you know one thing but you know i can't say it's for free but i you know he
00:11:42.460 was trying it's it's bizarre to me it's like saying okay don't sue me because i'm innocent
00:11:48.460 but i'll give you sixty thousand dollars if you just leave me alone right but i'll turn on all
00:11:54.060 my friends i'll give all the evidence i can provide for you uh if i can come up with the
00:12:00.620 sixty thousand but now that i can't come up with the sixty thousand oops sorry i gave her i gave
00:12:05.500 you all the evidence i had so are you are you saying that that chad arrows has turned over
00:12:12.620 whatever knowledge evidence documents emails whatever that he has turned over
00:12:17.020 stuff to uh to the plaintiff's lawyer and again i'm sorry you know i'm not i'm not james manson's
00:12:22.060 the lawyer is running this right so i'm i'm a little bit he could wasn't able to join this
00:12:25.980 evening but are you saying that that evidence has already gone over to paul champ well we don't know
00:12:31.180 what we know is that he had 60 days to do it but he had six months to pay the the money um so
00:12:39.900 i like i i can't even comprehend what there would be to turn over to him um but i guess that's you
00:12:47.500 know paul champ like when i when i testified at the poec and i was on the stand paul champ cross
00:12:53.420 examined me and it was just a fishing expedition he was just asking questions so that i would
00:12:58.700 implicate other people so whatever he turned over um i i have absolute 100 full confidence that it's
00:13:07.180 nothing that incriminates any of us i just think that it's a fishing expedition um that chad eros
00:13:15.100 was willing to pay sixty thousand dollars for well i you know i i was as you know i was not in ottawa
00:13:22.300 during Freedom Convoy but of course I've heard lots about it I don't I wouldn't I
00:13:28.880 wouldn't lose sleep over if he's turned over documents and emails you guys got
00:13:32.620 nothing to hide anyway it's pretty transparent what all occurred and what
00:13:37.000 happened and you know it's pretty straightforward I would be I would be
00:13:42.760 completely surprised I'd be totally blown away if if he had some email that
00:13:47.920 was going to cause harm I think that's just not likely to happen because you
00:13:52.060 guys you did what you did you did it peacefully you did it honorably right so even yeah whatever
00:13:58.040 he's turned over I couldn't see it really bringing much of an advantage to the to the plaintiffs
00:14:02.960 no exactly that's exactly right that is John are we allowed to talk about some of the other
00:14:10.840 lawsuits that are going on right now that that a lot of people probably don't know about that
00:14:14.800 are already filed and I don't know if I'm going too far in this when I ask this question but
00:14:19.000 there's other lawsuits right regarding other people here are we allowed to talk about that at all
00:14:24.240 well you can talk about whatever you want uh lawsuits are public right and that's and that's
00:14:31.360 a deliberate pillar of the legal system you you can't sue people in secret unless you know and
00:14:36.740 there's rare exceptions if you're a sexual abuse victim and you know there's privacy confidentiality
00:14:41.580 there's some exceptions but basically the idea is that this should be in public for the sake of
00:14:47.720 transparency for the sake of accountability this is why criminal trials are in public
00:14:51.900 because if if you could have secret criminal trials right that's a nightmare that that
00:14:57.680 repressive regimes do right they they arrest you in secret they lock you up in jail in secret and
00:15:02.480 then they give you a secret trial and maybe a secret execution afterwards so yeah if you want
00:15:08.780 to talk about other lawsuits that's that's totally up to you well Chad actually has a lawsuit filed
00:15:15.760 right now against the justice center right and against that one i was trying to approach it too
00:15:22.280 bad in case you couldn't mention it but i was trying to get just there's there's been yeah
00:15:29.120 it's well it's it's publicly accessible information that that uh yeah a lot he he has filed a statement
00:15:35.600 claim against the justice center saying that we caused him harm by not telling him that if he went
00:15:43.940 to Ottawa he could potentially get sued it's a little bit far-fetched you know we're not we
00:15:50.320 filed a statement of defense to say that we disagree completely with his allegations
00:15:54.260 I remember being part of those those zoom meetings John and listening to him go off on you
00:16:03.000 is there any way you could counter sue that for an harm that he caused you I remember being it was
00:16:08.760 quite the conflict and we eventually had to we had to say goodbye to Chad because of the that
00:16:13.820 anger and that hostility towards you know anyone was out there you know trying to take control of
00:16:19.440 whatever fundraising was out there and we uh we had to say goodbye there's a there's a long and
00:16:24.200 short story to this this whole saga and i would i would like more people to know about the insides
00:16:29.520 of it i i don't feel that i've been harmed by chad eros i i wouldn't i wouldn't sue him i don't feel
00:16:38.720 like he's caused me any harm and uh but yeah you know you're also sorry sorry john i'm sorry to
00:16:48.600 cut you off um i was just i was just gonna say um uh it would just be frivolous it would be like
00:16:53.580 a defamation suit you know you're just gonna spend a whole lot of money a lot of your energy
00:16:58.620 a lot of your time um for nothing like for basically nothing you're not gonna really get
00:17:03.560 anything out of it so yeah um yeah that was that's just well there's a there's a dark that's
00:17:10.720 kind of the problem with defamation lawsuits and and there is a time and a place for them
00:17:14.500 if you sue somebody for defamation you have to repeat the defamatory comments in the statement
00:17:21.320 of claim and the statement of claim is a public document that's followed at the courthouse that
00:17:25.760 is not too hard to get a hold of you can go to the court and pay ten dollars for a search maybe
00:17:30.860 they they have electronic ways now but but um you know yeah you have to think twice about suing
00:17:36.460 somebody for defamation because whatever bad things they said you know if they said you're
00:17:40.040 crooked you're corrupt you're dishonest whatever they said about you you got to print that in your
00:17:44.500 statement of claim file it at the courthouse and then whoever wants to can say oh you know so and
00:17:50.000 so suing for defamation you know whatever right so it's it's always a defamation lawsuit are
00:17:55.760 tricky business that way because they can sometimes draw a lot more attention to whatever
00:18:01.720 it was that somebody said about you that's not true. You sue somebody, it's going to get a lot
00:18:07.240 of publicity or it can get a lot of publicity. But I'm not aware of whatever Chad has said
00:18:16.840 about me or against me. I don't know. I don't care. I'm just not interested.
00:18:22.540 yes yeah but you're right it just they end up creating their own monsters much like you know
00:18:28.120 chris and me just being it going through the whole trial and the whole process it felt like
00:18:32.260 you know every time we were dragged back there it was turned into another media circus and just
00:18:36.860 sort of exposed us and platformed us even more so you know in a sense they're they created their
00:18:42.060 own monster so i can totally agree with that personally more famous than we ever kind of
00:18:48.080 asked to be I guess and that's maybe yeah welcome to our life for the last four years if they would
00:18:55.080 have let a lot of it go we would have melted back into the history books and probably been
00:18:58.500 forgot about by now but they've drug us through the courts for so long it's made us almost infamous
00:19:03.420 so we are going this is an article the next case conference will be March the 4th I'm assuming that
00:19:13.460 is when the judge will be hearing uh the state of proceedings argument that was brought on by
00:19:18.980 andrew burgess i believe and that is uh the defendant for um pat and those guys no no sorry
00:19:25.860 not pat um benjamin and those guys yeah that was benjamin so they're bringing that up which
00:19:33.060 obviously we're supporting can we also bring to light this lawsuit right now is 290 million
00:19:39.140 dollars and right now the plaintiffs on it are some of the people you're looking at on the screen
00:19:43.220 here except for john of course john is helping us defend this um but there's a lot of a lot of
00:19:47.980 people involved with freedom convoy that are part of this lawsuit right now but but what paul champ
00:19:52.040 downtown lawyer ottawa lawyer wants to do is he wants to add the donor class to the john doe
00:19:58.080 section of this lawsuit anyone who donated 25 to the freedom convoy could be liable and be part
00:20:04.740 of this lawsuit going forward if paul champ has his way in the courts and has this donor class
00:20:09.880 added to the lawsuit so it's imperative that that we win this and we have this this lawsuit
00:20:16.560 taking care of us you know in the courts it's absolutely it's important now it's a weak argument
00:20:23.060 but just because it's weak doesn't mean you go at it full force anyways so like by way of analogy
00:20:30.080 right let's say you donate money to the salvation army registered charity doing good things helping
00:20:36.160 people but let's say that there's one particular office of the salvation army in some canadian city
00:20:44.400 and uh somebody's been uh let's say an employee is treated unfairly uh gets fired and so is the
00:20:53.360 salvation army okay and and maybe that person will win because maybe the salvation army is liable
00:20:59.120 they mistreated the person or maybe the claim will be dismissed because it doesn't have a solid basis
00:21:04.480 to it. But if that person also said, I'm going to sue all the people who donated to the Salvation
00:21:10.900 Army, the law is that it's too remote, right? In law, it's a matter of closeness. If you rear-end
00:21:18.220 somebody, right, you can be liable. And the guy that got rear-ended can sue you for rear-ending
00:21:27.140 him, he can't sue your boss or your wife who got you upset that morning and got you into
00:21:34.260 a bad mood so that you weren't driving properly. But, you know, somebody else caused that
00:21:39.780 because they upset you. Therefore, you weren't. That's called remoteness, right? So that's
00:21:43.720 very remote. So in the same way that if a former employee of the Salvation Army, they
00:21:49.540 can't sue donors to the Salvation Army because you just had no knowledge of whatever. So
00:21:56.260 in the same way with with with freedom convoy i mean i don't i don't think the claim has merit
00:22:01.580 anyways but for for the people who are actually in ottawa for those defendants but then to try
00:22:07.880 to extend it and say somebody that sent in 25 bucks so we're going to fight tooth and nail to
00:22:12.560 to defeat that in particular because that would be just a horrible precedent that uh people who
00:22:17.820 donate to a cause and then there's somebody who does something wrong and then they're liable for
00:22:24.000 for donating that's just that's just wrong that was that's what we've seen happen in the last
00:22:29.740 number of years with our trial process is the crown using case law that they have come up with
00:22:34.380 in the last number of years i mean tamara and i's case was essentially based on the coots protest
00:22:39.700 which we had absolutely nothing to do with it was in a separate protest and other people's actions
00:22:44.740 in ottawa that we were not associated with so case law has been evident and this is yet another
00:22:49.780 example of case law that could move forward that could potentially ruin somebody else down the
00:22:54.840 road this is Canadian this is case law going forward for all Canadians not just us well there
00:23:00.520 is yeah there's a bit of a you know counterpoint to that in that that you know every every situation
00:23:06.520 is different which is why we've had uh the last four years that that the Justice Centre has been
00:23:11.520 funding legal representation for Harold Jonker who won and other people who've won but then other
00:23:17.700 people have lost so I mean it's still fact specific but yeah they do try to that's par
00:23:25.040 for the course I mean both sides try to use case law there's nothing wrong with that in
00:23:28.880 and of itself it's true so we didn't get to use a lot of the case law on our side it seemed
00:23:35.820 like in our trial did you Tamara did you feel it that way no um John all right can you speak
00:23:44.260 too i've seen a couple comments now um so regarding the money that's in the escrow so
00:23:49.460 if this say we do seek a safe proceedings and it is granted and this lawsuit ceases um do
00:23:57.300 are you can you explain what will happen with that now i believe paul has first dibs on it
00:24:04.340 basically but following that it'll go directly to the attorney general of ontario as far as i know
00:24:11.140 James Manson, the lawyer on the file would be able to answer that. I just don't know,
00:24:19.220 and I'm not going to risk a guess. I apologize.
00:24:21.700 Yeah, that's no problem. No, no, no problem. As far as what I think I know,
00:24:27.860 is that there was the two layers on it. The Paul Champ had claimed to that money first and foremost,
00:24:34.340 followed by the Attorney General of Ontario. If Paul was unsuccessful in this class action lawsuit,
00:24:40.980 it would default automatically to the attorney general of ontario um based on the fact that all
00:24:46.340 they really needed was one conviction of mischief from any any of the convoy participants am i right
00:24:51.620 tom you're nodding i'm just making sure that i'm getting that that right i i've always been i don't
00:24:58.260 know i don't know about the escrow funds i haven't been closely involved in in the legal files
00:25:03.620 so i i just don't know it at all yeah in that whole issue all i know is that it's basically
00:25:10.580 like keith has explained to me before it's like there's there's two packages it's almost like uh
00:25:16.340 one of those russian matushka dolls with all these layers of people making claim to that money
00:25:21.460 um and i know paul champ was the very first one and then i do know that the attorney general of
00:25:27.060 ontario was the second one so even if paul champs is unraveled then you know to release those monies
00:25:35.540 from the uh the escrow we'd have to go through the attorney general of of ontario and that's probably
00:25:41.220 just a whole different set of criteria that and i don't even know and i think there might even
00:25:45.780 almost be one more layer of this doll around the money um but but keith is the one who really
00:25:52.020 intimately understands how this stuff works and james of course and james would have really good
00:25:58.420 answers for that i uh yeah i think it might have been the federal government can you hear me okay
00:26:06.500 i think it might have been the federal government if if it if it didn't get taken by champ and it
00:26:12.320 didn't get taken by ontario i thought somewhere along the line someone told us that the federal
00:26:16.720 government might try and go for it right yeah that's still going to be a very long process
00:26:23.600 anyways. I suspect it's motivating the lawsuit. There's a few million sitting there, right? So
00:26:29.920 it makes it worthwhile for somebody, Paul Champ or any other lawyer to step forward. And I don't
00:26:38.300 know anything about the retainer that he signed with the plaintiffs, but it wouldn't surprise me
00:26:42.720 if it was a contingency agreement where he's going to get, you know, whatever they agreed upon 30%,
00:26:50.760 20 percent 10 percent of the money i mean i don't know that's speculation i mean maybe they're paying
00:26:56.180 an hourly rate but it wouldn't surprise me if there's a contingency agreement and there's
00:27:01.040 millions sitting there if the millions were not in escrow uh you know there's a there's a pretty
00:27:07.880 good chance the the lawsuit might not have been brought there there's about four and a half
00:27:12.500 million in you know that was seized and then another 800 000 my understanding in crypto
00:27:19.240 and you know for anybody who's interested in doing you know a five minute google search they
00:27:24.780 can go on the poec i've posted the link several times on on x um i think it's november 16th when
00:27:32.960 the the two forensic audit teams all their findings were presented at the poec i think
00:27:40.400 it's either november 16th or the november 2nd is one of those days but there's never been in canada
00:27:47.800 crowdfunded money so thoroughly investigated and picked over by two different types of forensic
00:27:53.560 audit teams than this money that was donated to the convoy there so every cent every coin
00:28:00.680 everything is accounted for it's still in the vault with the attorney general of ontario they
00:28:05.640 have the money so you know the rumors of us having it no false nobody has it but doug
00:28:11.720 ford's attorney general has it locked behind a big giant safe and um just go and look at the
00:28:18.440 testimony i mean the government the federal government presented the forensic audit reports
00:28:22.920 themselves they did yeah the reports right there on the poec website there's a whole report on all
00:28:29.080 of it yeah i mean that was that's the most um that's the most investigated money of all time
00:28:33.800 it was investigated by um fintrac csis the government of canada the government of ontario
00:28:39.960 the ottawa police service the ontario uh provincial police the rcmp uh goodness i'm
00:28:47.080 forgetting some even so and nobody nobody's been nobody has been criminally charged for
00:28:53.560 mishandling uh or stealing money in relation to freedom convoy i mean that says a lot right because
00:29:00.280 if they if they felt that they had a case knowing how motivated politically motivated the the
00:29:05.880 prosecutors are on this issue if they did have even a little bit of evidence that there was
00:29:10.680 something a little bit wrong uh i'm sure they would have moved ahead with with uh with criminal
00:29:15.880 charges against whoever they thought was responsible but that says a lot if the money is heavily
00:29:20.600 investigated and nobody's getting criminally charged for stealing misappropriation whatever
00:29:26.920 then uh yeah that that says a lot i was just trying to find the link for the poec
00:29:33.400 website there it was a website and i seem to have lost the link i had it on my old computer i guess
00:29:37.320 but it is readily available online and you can look at all the testimony all the documents
00:29:42.680 everything on on the poac yeah everything was listed and well documented too i might even have
00:29:50.040 it on my phone saved uh so switching gears here on you john for just one second and then we're
00:29:57.080 gonna let you go you've been gracious enough you've been gracious enough um to give us your
00:30:01.000 time again this evening it has been um over two weeks now since the federal court of appeals
00:30:09.240 upheld the justice mosley decision and we have shockingly not seen a statement come out from
00:30:15.960 the pmo's office i've not seen a statement come out from sean fraser the justice minister
00:30:21.240 i have not seen any exclusive reports from any of the mainstream media so i mean don't you think
00:30:27.720 think that's a little bit odd that, you know, this judgment has been upheld. And what's your
00:30:33.620 personal opinion? Do you think the federal government is going to take this all the way
00:30:37.640 to the Supreme Court? Well, two things. One is I think they've learned from their mistake from
00:30:42.800 last time when the federal court trial division, when the lower court released a judgment more
00:30:50.000 than 50,000 words in length on 100 pages if you print it. So sizable judgment, you know,
00:30:57.420 the size of a short book, maybe, that within, I forget now, 22 minutes, 44 minutes, they held a
00:31:05.240 news conference and said, we're appealing, which is obviously a pure political arrogance, because
00:31:11.120 a good lawyer would read a judgment first and see if there's something in it that warrants an
00:31:18.460 appeal, something that the lawyer or anybody else, a non-lawyer, you got to read the judgment and see
00:31:23.700 if there's something in it that that's uh worth appealing so they announced that you know within
00:31:30.020 minutes without without having read the judgment so i think they've learned from their mistake
00:31:34.260 kudos to the federal government for not you know announcing a decision to appeal without having
00:31:39.380 read the decision so it looks like they're doing the proper thing they're actually reading the
00:31:44.100 decision and thinking about it now the supreme court of canada is not most courts in canada
00:31:50.180 most courts of appeal, and I think Ontario is a little bit different, but most courts of appeal
00:31:54.560 in Canada, if you want to appeal the trial judgment, you just follow the appeal and that's it. And the
00:32:00.220 court will hear it and they'll grant your appeal or they will dismiss it. The Supreme Court of
00:32:04.600 Canada is different. There's a two-step process where first you apply to ask the court to please
00:32:10.680 hear your appeal. And if they say yes, it doesn't mean that they like it or they think you have a
00:32:15.500 good chance. And then if they say yes, then you have your second thing, which is the actual appeal.
00:32:20.180 Now, what the federal government has to persuade, if the federal government wants to appeal this, they have to persuade the Supreme Court of Canada that there is an important legal doctrine that is in dispute where there's a lack of clarity in the law.
00:32:35.400 and those are the cases that the supreme court is interested in is if the for example if the
00:32:41.920 bc and saskatchewan courts of appeal rule one way on an issue and the alberta and quebec courts of
00:32:48.720 appeal rule another way on an issue and if the issue is important that's likely to get heard by
00:32:53.740 the supreme court of canada because it's going to say look we've got this legal doctrine it could
00:32:58.320 be family law contract law criminal law constitutional law we got this legal doctrine
00:33:03.240 and we have conflicting there's a lack of clarity in the law so we're going to take this on
00:33:08.500 to render a decision and provide clarity in the law so if the federal government wants to appeal
00:33:14.540 they're going to have to try to persuade the supreme court that somewhere in this ruling
00:33:20.820 in the federal court of appeal ruling there's an important legal doctrine that is not clear
00:33:27.320 that requires the help of the supreme court of canada to bring clarity
00:33:32.120 so all that said is to say the federal government would have i think would have an uphill fight
00:33:38.840 trying to persuade the supreme court to hear this case and don't we have a little bit of uh
00:33:44.040 biased with one of the supreme court judges coming out with some pretty absolutely one of them the
00:33:51.320 one the one the grand poobah yes yeah the grand poobah what's his name
00:34:00.600 admiring his new bust richard wagner richard wagner yes most people wait until after they
00:34:09.000 leave an organization before they you know start hanging up portraits you know like a university
00:34:14.200 president will wait until after retirement before there's a nice portrait the premiers of the
00:34:19.400 provinces when you go to the legislative assembly uh i'd venture a guess that in in the in alberta's
00:34:25.400 legislative assembly there is not a portrait of of danielle smith i i think that's going to be
00:34:30.600 at some point in the future when she's no longer premier uh but yeah but not the supreme court of
00:34:35.400 canada no we've we've got a bust of the current chief justice i mean it's ludicrous no one loves
00:34:41.560 some richard wagner more than richard wagner
00:34:47.640 john i want to thank you so much for for making the time to come tonight my pleasure my pleasure
00:34:54.360 who has helped so many of uh not just freedom convoy cases but but cases all across the country
00:35:00.680 and defending those who can't defend themselves you can go to www.jccf.ca you can also follow them
00:35:07.720 at jccf canada on x um john do you have any final thoughts or any of you guys have anything for john
00:35:14.280 before we let him go have his dinner john we appreciate everything you do i just have to make
00:35:19.880 sure that you know that we've been here you know you've been right from the start and then we uh
00:35:24.200 we look up to you and especially the justice center i i look up to you guys you did you did the
00:35:31.480 you've suffered so much and you've given so much and i i uh i just i really appreciate what you
00:35:36.440 did in in ottawa and fighting back ever since so we'll keep on final word we'll keep on fighting
00:35:42.600 until we win absolutely uh you you've got the george jonas freedom award coming up i heard that
00:35:49.480 was it was it candace malcolm is the 2026 recipient so we're having uh we're having an
00:35:56.680 event in toronto on uh monday june 1st and then an event in vancouver on august the 20th i think
00:36:04.520 and then in calgary on september 24th so we're gonna have these events and candace is going to
00:36:09.640 be there and speak and uh yeah it's uh just another great canadian in uh following in in
00:36:17.560 line with ezra levant and tamara leach and uh christy blackford and mark stein and jordan peterson
00:36:26.520 so um yeah it feels like i might have to try and get a work exemption and come report on that dinner
00:36:33.800 then uh ezra should ask you to come and report on our calgary dinner on thursday september 24th
00:36:41.080 absolutely yes okay okay we'll see what we can do uh danny anything before we let john go
00:36:49.560 oh i just thank you very much john for everything you guys have done for us
00:36:53.240 man if that team of lawyers hadn't showed up we would have been in a lot more trouble than we
00:36:58.120 ended up in so we owe the jccf and everyone that came to lend their expertise a huge thank you and
00:37:05.160 i'm forever grateful for everything you guys have done for all of us so thank you so much
00:37:09.560 thanks so much for having me with you tonight have a great rest of the night
00:37:12.800 see you okay have a great night john thank you
00:37:15.400 well i'm thankful to the comment section tonight because it is just a mess fest of people
00:37:21.760 there's a time and place for everything everybody but yeah i've been not wanting to share a couple
00:37:30.440 comments on the screen but not wanting to do that while john was on here so uh yeah i kept it clean
00:37:35.940 and i posted the uh the link to the poec uh and it was uh day 16 november 3rd uh is when the poec
00:37:44.760 presented the forensic audit um on on the results of it to the commission themselves i think they
00:37:51.720 were up there for quite a while talking about this money but you can go on there and watch it
00:37:55.840 yourself if you really want to know where the money went um so yeah everything is there one
00:38:02.400 of those three in canadian history right there yeah the four of us were sitting in the room for
00:38:08.380 most of that commission listening to uh all this stuff you know seven and a half weeks we sat in
00:38:13.820 that room and just stop the miscarriage of government throughout this you know COVID was
00:38:20.340 two years you know in the making and mandates and crippling people and I talked about this the
00:38:27.340 other day in an interview I did people were taking their lives people were unaliving themselves at a
00:38:32.960 fast rate in the suicide the depression everything was at an all-time high in this country because of
00:38:37.380 those mandates and when we stood up we were standing up for those people that didn't feel
00:38:41.520 like they had a voice and they were they're a really really dark spot and then people stepped
00:38:45.260 up and they donated to the cause to support that because people want to change so badly in this
00:38:49.900 country and the government came in and froze bank accounts and still holds thank goodness
00:38:55.860 you know gofundme the people were able to get the refund on the money except for the million
00:39:00.340 thank goodness jacob wells was able to hit the refund button on the give send go and get it back
00:39:05.940 to donators before the government came at us i i wish honestly i wish they would have done that
00:39:10.640 with everything every dollar would have went back to donors because we didn't it just put a bigger
00:39:16.380 target target on and look at the trouble it's caused ever since now sorry i'm just trying to
00:39:24.020 find this uh one thing to bring up so talk amongst yourselves well i you know i was i was walking the
00:39:30.140 dog today and um i just had this this memory i totally forgot about it and i think chris i was
00:39:36.960 out at your fundraiser a couple years ago um in uh swift current and somebody came up to me this
00:39:44.240 guy came up a really good dude came up and he showed me a picture on his phone and he goes
00:39:49.360 do do you remember me and i'm like i'm sorry i like i feel bad if i don't right and and he's
00:39:55.440 like here let me let me give you a hint and he pulled out his cell phone and he showed me a
00:39:59.040 picture and it was the inside of a forearm with a phone number on it oh and i'm like now i remember
00:40:06.240 who you are now i remember it was the day um when you know the the after the emergencies act was
00:40:13.920 invoked and we had all the lawyers show up and we put out a hotline phone number uh for the
00:40:20.880 lawyer so basically if you got if you got taken by the police call that phone number when they give
00:40:26.080 you a chance to to make a call well i scribbled it in marker on the inside of my forearm in case
00:40:32.560 i got taken uh and i was like well i'm not going to remember the phone number but i want it and
00:40:37.200 so i met this guy on the street and he was asking me what do we do if if the police arrested and so
00:40:42.480 i i lifted up the sleeve on my arm and i said take a picture of my arm call that phone number
00:40:48.160 and uh i met him again in swift current like it was it was just hilarious but that phone number
00:40:53.200 was to the lawyers the lawyers who showed up to uh to bail us all out and get us you know get it some
00:41:00.080 some actual uh help not you tamara but everyone else how many people
00:41:07.360 i would have to get a tattoo yeah yeah yeah well um i have a copy of the settlement agreement here
00:41:16.800 that i want to try to bring up i've been reading through it here um it's only 10 pages in length
00:41:24.000 It does state that there's a $60,000 sum due in $60,000.
00:41:31.080 Yes.
00:41:31.760 Yeah.
00:41:33.340 I have to do this a different way because I just technologically challenged.
00:41:40.020 And this is available for public, right?
00:41:41.780 Anybody can look on the court docs and find what we're looking at.
00:41:45.340 It's been filed.
00:41:46.480 Yeah.
00:41:46.980 So this is a, I just want to find the right page here.
00:41:51.600 Dated April 3rd, 2024.
00:41:54.000 Yeah, April 3rd, 2024.
00:41:58.780 The people who are saying would be Zexy Lee, Happy Goat Coffee Company in Ottawa.
00:42:05.240 We have a numbered company here and a local union 613, which is a restaurant in the downtown core of Ottawa.
00:42:14.880 Jeffrey Devaney.
00:42:19.140 And that's basically the red zone.
00:42:21.920 um paul has went out of his way to try and get anyone in the red zone uh will uh part of the
00:42:28.880 290 million settlement so i've got a question for you guys because i was trying to think of
00:42:35.920 this this morning and i just i i couldn't think of it but as i recall we as a group had the meeting
00:42:43.240 with the lawyers not that long ago when when we had first heard that this document or this situation
00:42:51.200 was um what actually happened it's it's only been a few months since we even got a whiff of it and
00:42:57.680 we didn't get any confirmation that this was even true uh until not that long ago and i'm talking a
00:43:05.120 matter of weeks not uh not long like that's my recollection of the meeting that we had with the
00:43:11.600 lawyers um that briefed us on this particular situation we didn't actually know that this was
00:43:17.840 even something that had happened until very very recently and i'm talking within the last few months
00:43:23.600 but again i want to make sure to be clear we didn't have confirmation that this was actually
00:43:28.960 happening until only weeks ago that's my recollection of this whole thing here um i don't
00:43:35.600 know about you guys if you guys remember it differently because we've had so many bloody
00:43:39.280 meetings um with this particular case but well i just want to go to page four here where we get
00:43:45.840 start getting into some of the details if you don't mind for one second tom yeah yes pardon me
00:43:52.400 um the settling defendant will pay or cause to be paid the settlement amount to champ and
00:43:57.520 associates interest within six months from the date of this settlement agreement and that amount
00:44:04.000 was sixty thousand dollars i was sixty thousand dollars in the event the settling defendant does
00:44:09.200 not pay or cause to be paid the settlement amount by the date this shall be void and not enforced
00:44:14.400 okay whatever um and then we have the sorry it is 10 pages long so this is slip page
00:44:29.920 six and this had to be heard by the judge before any of this this had to be filed in court and
00:44:36.720 heard by the judge before any of this has become public knowledge okay and that just happened
00:44:41.520 January 29th it's typically an agreement like this of this nature should be
00:44:47.640 disclosed immediately for the for the reasons that you and John were talking
00:44:52.020 about earlier I mean it would be it'd be like basically having a mole in your
00:44:57.240 group that could be you know sitting in and taking like you know strategizing
00:45:01.920 with your strategies behind your back I mean there's definitely precedent set
00:45:05.280 against against doing this type of stuff cooperation scope of cooperation within
00:45:11.280 60 days of the execution of the settlement by the parties the defendant shall provide to the
00:45:15.760 plaintiffs and class action counsel copies of all documents in his possession power or control.
00:45:26.560 The parties, point 13 is on here, the parties respectively acknowledge and agree that all
00:45:32.000 information and documents provided by the settling defendant to the plaintiffs
00:45:36.080 under this agreement may be used by the plaintiffs in connection with the investigation,
00:45:40.560 prosecution and settlements of the claims in the action including without limitation
00:45:46.400 the certification of the action and prosecution of the claims in action against the non-settling
00:45:51.840 defendants provided that such information and documents shall not be directly or indirectly
00:45:57.280 used for any other purpose the plaintiff shall take all reasonable steps and precautions to
00:46:01.440 ensure and maintain the confidentiality and the information of the documents at the request of
00:46:07.120 the plaintiffs now there's one thing i want you guys to also understand this lawsuit isn't just
00:46:12.320 tom miraz of tamara leach chris barber and you were talking you're we're talking about freedom
00:46:18.720 convoy um organizers that are named in this lawsuit we're talking about truck drivers that
00:46:23.840 are named in this lawsuit we're talking about uh protesters just regular people that are named in
00:46:29.120 this lawsuit we're talking about the donors the donor class that paul champ is hoping to include
00:46:36.400 is who he has signed agreement to prove to provide evidence and testify against let's keep going
00:46:43.040 and jacob wills himself the owner sorry he's the owner of give send go yeah at the request of the
00:46:51.520 plaintiffs and upon reasonable reasonable notice the settling defendant shall a make himself
00:46:57.760 available to provide information relating to the allegations in the action in three personal
00:47:02.800 interviews with class counsel lasting no more than five hours each that's 15 hours he's going
00:47:09.920 to fly to ontario and sit with a court reporter which may be transcribed by a court reporter and
00:47:16.000 which will occur at mutually convenient locations and on three separately mutually convenient dates
00:47:22.880 okay next slide after the date that they have completed their document production
00:47:29.040 obligations described in 12 above after document disclosure and after examinations he must make
00:47:35.440 himself reasonably available to provide an affidavit in support of either or both the
00:47:41.200 certification of the action and any summary judgment application brought by or against the
00:47:46.480 plaintiffs in the action and to attend for cross-examination on any such affidavit he must
00:47:53.120 make himself reasonably available to provide evidence at the trial of the action including
00:47:59.680 for the authentication of documents and to meet with class counsel in preparation to testify
00:48:06.080 against everyone named in this lawsuit at trial boom so we can go back to the very very beginning
00:48:15.120 and you can see um oh sorry i guess not all the plaintiffs are named on this one
00:48:19.360 um so there's a lot of jane and john doe is yet to be named there is a ton of jane and john does
00:48:27.040 yet to be named so i'm not sure chris if you've gone through this um so in exchange in exchange
00:48:36.240 for providing this information for testifying against everyone named in the class action lawsuit
00:48:41.680 for turning in the receipts that he whatever he was going to have his name removed from the lawsuit
00:48:51.660 and have and testify against everybody else to save his own skin i call that a traitor i honestly
00:49:00.420 do it's okay to have a difference of opinion when you're in in a movement like this and
00:49:04.620 gosh knows we've all had it um but you know like tamara and i've spoke about this before tom danny
00:49:10.200 And if you and I ever had a falling out, I would go my own way.
00:49:15.440 But it doesn't seem like that happens in other people's mindsets.
00:49:19.320 So it's been really sad and probably very frustrating to watch over the last four years.
00:49:25.100 There's certain people that I don't want to associate with.
00:49:27.400 And this right here proves exactly why I don't want to have anything to do with certain people.
00:49:36.180 It's pretty disappointing on many, many levels, obviously.
00:49:40.200 this is a christian man from you know saskatchewan here with a with a pile of children and what
00:49:47.820 legacy do you have what do you leave for your children when you do this and i think the thing
00:49:55.800 that upsets me is that he's the only person that i'm aware of the only person that got paid to go
00:50:04.140 to the convoy you know uh so keith wilson was contacted by a donor and i i don't know who the
00:50:11.980 donor is so i don't mind mentioning it but a donor said look i have a lot of money uh i want to
00:50:17.020 donate it and he gave it to keith and said you disperse the money as you see fit inappropriate
00:50:22.700 and we needed the accountant we like because you guys formed the corporation it was proper to look
00:50:28.300 after all this money effectively we had an accountant so chad was hired to go to the convoy
00:50:34.700 and he received money and not only that but keith wilson paid him three thousand dollars of his own
00:50:41.340 pocket so chad got paid thirteen thousand dollars to go there and to attend and you know what to
00:50:47.740 this day i am completely unaware of one financial statement that that man ever produced he never
00:50:54.540 He never even set up the books.
00:50:56.400 That's why I call him the accountant that did no accounting.
00:50:59.280 He did no accounting whatsoever.
00:51:01.740 Like, nothing, all he had to do is set up the books.
00:51:04.900 Yeah.
00:51:05.540 And you know, I, like I block all these people.
00:51:07.840 I don't listen to any of them.
00:51:09.280 I block them.
00:51:10.380 I, I don't interact with them.
00:51:13.000 Like they don't get any of my attention, but this one here, this one really hits
00:51:16.900 a nerve because there's a lot of people out there that are, they listen to the
00:51:21.940 rhetoric that comes from a guy like Chad.
00:51:24.540 and then they start making insinuations like they believe it and they come after us and i've said
00:51:30.260 this before many many times they go after people like the four of us because justin trudeau doesn't
00:51:35.920 return their calls so we're considered low-hanging fruit that's really what it is right but i'm not
00:51:42.060 gonna like i i don't mind talking about it today because for four years the four of us have been
00:51:46.940 vilified in the rumors and all this stuff now it's nothing nothing compared to the amount of
00:51:52.420 love and support we've received but on this issue you know i i love it because i put out a tweet
00:51:58.100 today and apparently i triggered a couple of them but i i put out a tweet basically saying look if
00:52:02.900 you've got the receipts if you've got this evidence and you've got some whistleblower please for the
00:52:08.740 love of god stop talking about it and just do a podcast and release all the information if you
00:52:14.500 don't have it and shut the hell up we don't want to hear it for four years
00:52:20.580 how many exposés it's always the same too over the last four years
00:52:25.620 except for danny danny's such a good guy that he's not he never gets
00:52:30.580 in all of this nastiness but you know it's always sitting
00:52:34.660 it's always what are they going to possibly expose about danny bulford the
00:52:38.260 most you know perfect man i heard
00:52:42.500 daniel used to use to work for the federal government i mean come clean with canadians
00:52:47.060 right at this moment well i've also been accused of being the guy who carried the nazi flag i may
00:52:52.660 have mentioned that before yeah i've never heard that before i i never got able to be in two places
00:52:59.860 simultaneously don't you know i have magic powers but whatever i mean i just i i've tried to be
00:53:09.220 super like calm and just be like you know what people are angry people don't trust anybody
00:53:18.260 and they're afraid and i always try and be like okay i see things being said and it bothers me
00:53:24.820 but i just try and remember my remember to tell myself they showed up in ottawa when we needed
00:53:30.420 people to show up so even though there's they're full of faults i have mine too they showed up when
00:53:38.100 i needed them but it has nothing has demoralized me more than watching the freedom convoy people
00:53:46.340 turn on themselves and and us and each other like i expect the government to be terrible
00:53:52.740 that's just my baseline i expect them to lie and cheat and steal and
00:53:57.780 behave just like the organized crime syndicate that they essentially are
00:54:01.620 what what makes you question your involvement in all of this was when you see people that you
00:54:12.060 thought were all together to stand up for each other start like trying to tear each other down
00:54:18.140 non-stop yeah i can stand fighting with the left on social media i can stand fighting with government
00:54:25.260 agencies who you know oppose us and talk a lot of about us but that is the one thing i've tried
00:54:30.560 really hard i don't usually attack first but i will respond from time to time i'll always attack
00:54:35.760 a bot account i'll always attack a lost lefty i love that fight and engagement online but what
00:54:41.040 i don't like doing is fighting with the people that you're apparently standing with even if you
00:54:44.640 didn't stand with them in auto or stand with the same beliefs that they did if you wanted to stand
00:54:48.400 in a separate group there should have been a difference and you were still standing for the
00:54:52.240 same purpose but some people in this movement can't figure that out well we we give we give
00:55:00.240 that the you want to call it the enemy an easy victory by attacking each other non-stop instead
00:55:07.440 of focusing on freeing ourselves from their control over us yes exactly you know but i i what's
00:55:15.600 frustrating to me is is uh you know last summer because we did have to pay a twenty thousand dollar
00:55:24.160 uh cost award to paul champ and you know the amazing supporters the amazing public and they
00:55:30.400 they're always at the top of my mind not the ones who act inappropriately but you know the the
00:55:37.520 canadians responded in nine hours 15 minutes we raised over twenty thousand dollars to pay that
00:55:44.160 legal bill and 2000 of it 2000 of it i personally sent the check i went to the post office and did
00:55:52.800 the registered mail and sent it to one of these people's um lawyer to pay his fee and he can't
00:56:00.320 stop holding on to every single word we all make and just attack attack attack yeah it's like i'm
00:56:07.120 sorry but listen why did i raise money to help you pay your legal fees like why did i do fundraisers
00:56:13.040 why did i go to the post office and to the bank to get you that money only for you to turn around
00:56:18.080 and viciously lie about me constantly for what for for attention you want attention i'll gladly give
00:56:25.440 you all the attention i can give you yeah i love it and then the platform the actual only person
00:56:32.480 is the turncoat like you know this guy is going to testify against him in the civil suit trial
00:56:40.080 to have him sued for 290 million dollars yeah gave him a big giant megaphone yeah the guy
00:56:47.280 the guy working against him is give is now being given the microphone by the
00:56:52.880 you can't make this crap up no you can't no you know in the i like i try i because i block
00:57:00.080 everybody right i don't pay attention to this stuff but one of them for some reason crept in
00:57:03.920 today and i thought i i couldn't stop laughing one it was all lies it was just all lies it was
00:57:10.400 everything that was said in this video was pure lies um and again receipts were mentioned but
00:57:16.560 i'm like please just put them out there i want to see them i'm so curious to see what a bad person
00:57:21.680 i am i'd love to see it but they can't provide it all it is is a means to string along an audience
00:57:27.920 to keep watching them until they can grow it's a it's a marketing plan that's all it is it's a
00:57:33.280 business plan you know this is how i'm just going to put this out there i mean we're uh trying to
00:57:40.160 get this verified but i mean we we found out or chris found out that um perhaps he has a financial
00:57:46.640 backer for his show and the stipulation was he needed to have us on the show to have that
00:57:52.080 financial back and continue so right um which would make a lot of sense because like i said
00:57:59.360 all he had to do was call or send us a text instead just you know just goes and and makes
00:58:04.960 all these crazy accusations and stuff and then demands that we go on a show like sorry you know
00:58:12.160 i i i messaged him when he started his podcast when he started his podcast months ago i mentioned
00:58:18.160 mentioned or i messaged him on on x and i said hey congratulations i wish you the best i hope
00:58:25.120 you do well i hope you succeed just please don't bring up my name on your show that's it his
00:58:30.640 response was i've never said anything bad and yeah one person guessed it already and it's been months
00:58:36.880 of the same thing and i'm like listen i'm gonna say this i'm gonna say this if i spent more than
00:58:42.160 20 minutes with this particular individual the entire 22 days i was at the convoy like that would
00:58:49.600 really be pushing it i didn't spend any time with the guy i didn't trust him he had a bad reputation
00:58:55.840 coming in he was very disruptive he was drinking all the time at night and waking truckers up and
00:59:00.240 causing a lot of problems for people and i put a babysitter on him when he was slow rolling so i'm
00:59:06.160 sorry like i'll give the dude credit for enduring 150 days in in uh remand because that's not an
00:59:13.520 easy thing i and he's got my admiration for that but i've never done anything to this guy i never
00:59:20.080 worked with him at the convoy other than one night and i had a meeting with him and i'll tell you why
00:59:25.360 he literally we agreed that something was going to happen that night he walked out of the room
00:59:29.600 and nothing got done nothing happened the way it was planned so and i was okay with that i was okay
00:59:35.200 i don't care but at the end of the day i just don't understand why the four of us are part of
00:59:42.640 there and keith like he really goes after keith why are the fiber five of us part of his business
00:59:47.680 plan it's not working is keith listed as any a lawyer on any of our accounts right now like
00:59:53.680 any thing to do with freedom convoy he's not on mine he's a friend of mine now i like he's an
00:59:59.600 amazing man and if you ever need legal advice keith will let you know what it is but he's not
01:00:04.560 representing us on the poec right now because the poec is over he's not representing us on our uh
01:00:09.920 on our civil trials right now he's not a criminal lawyer number one he's a civil lawyer um so he's
01:00:15.920 not even part of this but he is a friend and uh yeah you know bashing and going back down this
01:00:22.240 road four years after somebody you need to get a bigger stick or a better stick to stand on
01:00:26.800 because obviously that's getting pretty weak yeah and you know to say about keith um you know keith
01:00:32.800 is currently my lawyer in the lawsuit against the attorney general he's i think all of our lawyers
01:00:37.600 but you want to know something you want to know how much money i've paid keith wilson
01:00:41.680 in the four years i've known him he's actually paid me two thousand dollars he helped me drive
01:00:47.440 out to alberta to prepare for the poec because i couldn't find a job anywhere and i was like on my
01:00:53.760 last leg for money and he sent me money to drive out to alberta and to stay at his house to get
01:00:59.120 ready for this commission like i've never paid keith wilson a dime and this guy has done a lifetime
01:01:05.840 work of free medical help for all of us all you had to do all you had to do with keith and and eva
01:01:15.040 was to just treat them with basic civility and respect and they're incredibly loyal and they
01:01:21.200 would have helped you but when you start abusing them it's disgusting like it's absolutely
01:01:26.800 disgusting the vilification that these two have taken like i'd rather stand in front of both of
01:01:32.080 of them and take all the fire the incoming fire on their behalf because i think it's so gross
01:01:37.200 and so unjustified but it really really pisses me off what i want to go back and just remind
01:01:43.000 people too that if if we hadn't had help if the justice center wouldn't have flown a team of
01:01:47.400 lawyers in to assist us in freedom convoy and finding a path forward freedom convoy would
01:01:52.260 have been a bitcoin sales gig that's where it was headed and we corrected that by actually bringing
01:01:58.780 some good point good point chris i never thought i never thought of that you know
01:02:08.220 i totally forgot about that just now yeah every opportunity bitcoin bitcoin but that was never
01:02:16.060 the reason why i went but hey yeah yeah you know it's isn't it funny the four of us i bet you
01:02:23.420 if you look at it other than the four of us in this group all of our new best friends
01:02:27.900 all of our friends almost are all lawyers isn't that bizarre like i'd say 80 of the
01:02:33.660 people i interact with every day are lawyers it's crazy yeah i never thought i'd have something more
01:02:42.460 never have thought i'd have so many lawyers in my life but at least with their good ones you know
01:02:47.500 yeah why couldn't they all be comedians instead of lawyers yeah yeah no kidding or therapists
01:02:54.140 well you guys i don't know about anything else that you want to add here to this conversation
01:02:58.860 tonight i mean i just think that this is i'm really hopeful about this motion for this day
01:03:03.420 of proceedings um based on precedent that has been set mind you there is a recent case i believe in
01:03:08.540 alberta um that could complicate that a little bit but um but march 4th i guess uh is the next
01:03:15.340 date according to the article that'll be the next case conference so i guess we'll see from there
01:03:19.260 if he's going to um well i don't think he would actually make the decision that day he would
01:03:24.300 probably just hear the hear the argument that day just form us well march 5th or 4th when this
01:03:32.300 happened we will be five months into our sentence right wow five months five months more than that
01:03:41.340 we're going into month five this is february yeah well we'll be five months in right five
01:03:52.300 months served on in the beginning of march right we're four months right now october november
01:03:57.020 or september am i bad yeah no you're right yeah you're right yeah that would be that would be
01:04:04.940 actually i had my probation officer meeting this morning and we had a good visit and we spoke about
01:04:10.700 reforming me into a non-criminal lifestyle which i'm complying with it was it was a it was a very
01:04:17.820 good conversation we got to do notes do you feel like you're you're rehabilitating i'm rebuilding
01:04:24.380 yeah society i think if somebody said hey chris would you like to do another freedom convoy i'd
01:04:30.060 be like no i'm gonna go work please i did my i got my i need it we need to get t-shirts made
01:04:35.180 that just say i survived freedom convoy that's great i love it we absolutely do you got to get
01:04:43.180 kim on that get kim on it yeah for sale on bigredmerch.ca yeah oh man oh boy the stories we
01:04:53.740 tell i don't know but i think i'm going to start planning on a book tomorrow are you going to write
01:04:57.340 a book tom you already got a bunch of books yeah i'm going to get started on my second one here
01:05:01.500 probably within the next uh week or two i'll be going to get that rocking and rolling so
01:05:06.460 that should be that should be exciting awesome good time he doesn't have a book yet
01:05:13.100 neither chris and danny need to get their books out here yet i could just
01:05:23.260 it's actually pretty good therapy danny it's pretty good therapy it is well maybe our movie
01:05:29.500 deal will come through and we can just start pushing that through hey it's coming
01:05:37.340 oh hang on i gotta answer this how's french class going
01:05:46.060 it's all french to me
01:05:49.980 i saw one comment a while back pop up in the chat quite a while back but john was still talking quite
01:05:56.780 And I'm pretty sure I have the answer, but I just, please, guys, if I'm wrong, correct me.
01:06:04.320 Someone asked why we weren't fighting back against the use of the Emergency Act at the Ambassador Bridge in Windsor.
01:06:13.020 If I recall correctly, coots in Alberta and the Ambassador Bridge were both cleared before the Emergency Act was officially invoked.
01:06:23.320 Is that correct?
01:06:24.400 They were, yes.
01:06:25.020 Like the police moved and removed those, those, those convoys or those, you know, those protesters before they officially announced the invocation of the Emergency Act.
01:06:37.280 And actually, because the police were probably able to do that without the Emergency Act is part of the reason why they were unjustified in using it in Ottawa.
01:06:48.160 Well, I think Coutts, I think, though, Coutts, the Emergencies Act was invoked.
01:06:53.120 uh but jason kenney had uh made a deal and so it was a lot easier there was basically a coots
01:07:01.820 victory from that point of view where where jason kenney yielded um so there was no reason to
01:07:09.180 continue on like that's why you didn't see a coots um takedown like you saw in ottawa because
01:07:16.700 right they got they got what they were asking for yeah and so there was no need for it and after
01:07:22.620 after the after the earth raids on the coots four and the trailer yeah after all that occurred pre
01:07:30.540 emergencies act the protest kind of the protesters at coots or milk river decided that they would
01:07:36.940 withdraw after that correct yes i think and i think the last um i think the last of the coots
01:07:43.180 for were arrested the early early morning of the 14th very early morning so actually before it was
01:07:50.220 invoked also before it was and just while we're on this topic i just want to jump in here and just
01:07:54.540 say you know tony olianic is finally home he was finally released from prison for after almost four
01:08:01.420 years behind bars uh mostly at reban centers um the last leg was in drumheller minimum security
01:08:08.860 i think it is and so i just want to say uh to tony and his family i know we're so happy that
01:08:14.300 you're finally back home and may justice be served yeah and kudos to brendan miller yes kudos to
01:08:23.260 brendan miller that's right yeah kudos to brendan miller for for for taking that on and
01:08:29.100 yeah miller time is always a good time yeah and they wouldn't have been through what they were on
01:08:37.020 but uh yeah yes well okay well yeah let's uh let's call her a night i just want to say to everybody
01:08:46.140 that came um thank you for joining us this is obviously not our normal day and normal time
01:08:51.740 but we did just feel that this was a really important topic and wanted to get that the word
01:08:56.300 out and you know this is really good news there's potentially a chance that we're not going to get
01:09:00.620 sued for 290 million dollars so i mean i think that uh that's my that's my good feeling news of
01:09:05.820 the day i don't know about you guys yeah definitely it brightens the day to feel like there's a little
01:09:12.540 bit of a chance that that 290 million dollars isn't going to just continue to crush everything
01:09:17.500 that you've worked your whole life to build for your family absolutely exactly yeah yeah back on
01:09:23.660 everyone we have a special guest with us this week kayla pollock will be here to talk about
01:09:27.820 um her experience through this pandemic shall we say yes yeah i won't be there for that one
01:09:35.980 i'll be yeah we're gonna have to talk about her injury yeah yeah good good uh i i'm i i wish no
01:09:43.920 i'm gonna miss that one unfortunately i'm gonna miss that one i'll be um just getting back from
01:09:48.100 new york city flying out there tomorrow uh talking to the federalist society a group of lawyers that
01:09:55.280 are flying me out to New York to talk about the convoy and the emergencies act and stuff like
01:10:01.340 that. But my final thought for the night is this. Yeah. If, if you've got receipts about any of us
01:10:07.320 during the convoy after four years, just release them. Just say it, man. If not even better, you
01:10:12.240 know what you can do? Just, just call up Paul Champ and give him the info you have. Just give it to
01:10:16.720 He'll take your $60,000, just pay him $60,000, and he'll take your, exactly, he'll take the 60 grand.
01:10:25.500 Usually a receipt looks like this, it's a thin piece of paper, and you usually have to show it, but apparently that doesn't have to matter.
01:10:34.060 Did you imagine all the dirty, disgusting lies we could just spew with our audience and people, you know, I've said this before in the past,
01:10:40.740 I'm like, we could come on here and say some pretty utter
01:10:42.680 ridiculous things, and there's a certain
01:10:44.600 segment of a following that would believe
01:10:46.920 anything that comes out of our mouth. We don't
01:10:48.860 do that, but
01:10:50.180 I love it. You know what? The drama continues
01:10:54.860 and this is just the latest
01:10:56.900 development in the drama, and
01:10:59.060 while this
01:11:00.900 has been transpiring, my pilot
01:11:02.960 vehicles has had emissions
01:11:04.860 issues on our pickup truck,
01:11:06.860 so Kelly, I will be calling him back after
01:11:08.860 to find out where to delete this bullshit
01:11:11.380 off of these new trucks
01:11:12.480 so they don't have problems.
01:11:15.120 Oh, no.
01:11:17.080 Oh, no.
01:11:18.200 Well, thank you to Tom and Danny
01:11:20.320 for making the time to come on tonight.
01:11:22.460 I really appreciate that.
01:11:23.740 Tom, I hope you have a fantastic trip
01:11:25.640 and best of luck.
01:11:28.160 And thank you again to everyone in the comments
01:11:31.120 and everyone who showed up
01:11:32.060 to check out the show tonight.
01:11:33.320 Really appreciate it.
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01:11:37.060 if I ever said this,
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01:11:42.500 We House Arrest streams live every Thursday night at 6 p.m. Mountain Time, 8 p.m. Eastern Time.
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01:11:56.540 So we will see you guys Thursday.
01:11:58.760 Have a great night, everyone.
01:12:00.320 See you guys.
01:12:00.980 Thank you.
01:12:01.360 Good night.
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