00:00:54.100South Carolina State Senator Lindsey Graham is dead at age 71.
00:00:59.320Graham's office says he died on Saturday evening due to a brief and sudden illness.
00:01:05.720Graham served in the U.S. Senate for more than two decades and became one of President Donald Trump's closest allies.
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00:01:26.520A rarity in the nation's capital as the bipartisan housing bill becomes law without the president's signature.
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00:02:00.580Overnight, shots fired across the Middle East.
00:02:04.560U.S. Central Command announcing a new wave of airstrikes against Iran.
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00:02:17.840Saying it struck U.S. bases in Jordan, Bahrain, and Kuwait overnight.
00:02:21.700Iranian state media showing these videos of what they called retaliation,
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00:02:34.700Eight people now charged with plotting to attack last month's UFC Freedom 250 event at the White House.
00:02:41.320All eight now in custody, and the feds say the threat has been neutralized, but it was very real.
00:02:48.180we're not simply airing grievances from behind their keyboards and sharing like-minded political
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00:03:10.980well ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard today's edition of human events daily we're here live
00:03:19.000on real america's voice today is july 13th 2026 anno domine new information is out in the tyler
00:03:30.440robinson case and and in fact this information is a little bit you know it's it's it's something
00:03:39.340that had been out in a search warrant, but I think it's getting more attention now after the
00:03:43.280hearing that I attended last week. And we're going to put that out for you now, as well as,
00:03:49.240but in the show today, we're going to go through everything, of course, that has been going on,
00:03:54.520the aftermath, how we put it all together. We'll have multiple levels of correspondence and
00:04:00.380multiple levels of analysis on this. But Post Millennial has a great write up here.
00:04:05.420And I urge everyone to go check it out. Tyler Robinson used his cell phone to route from UVU, to map a route from UVU back to his St. George home after the Charlie Kirk killing.
00:04:20.620The Google Maps route is from an area on UVU campus specifically to the address that he lived in.
00:04:29.000and this is key because that information or that timing the timing of that was right around uh
00:20:51.660So visit GhostBed.com slash POSO and use promo code POSO to save even more.
00:20:57.240All right, we're back with Will Chamberlain here on Human Events.
00:21:01.500And, Will, you know, when we just left, you know, we were talking about this sort of these ideas of logical inferences versus, you know, direct evidence.
00:21:12.560And by the way, that things like even DNA technically are circumstantial evidence.
00:21:18.720Yet we know, of course, that they're very well accepted evidence.
00:21:23.160You do not particularly or almost ever have the kind of direct evidence of a video of the shooting itself.
00:21:30.340we actually do in this case um you don't always and sometimes you do to be sure stabbings or
00:21:35.980something like that things that happen on the street that get caught by like a you know like
00:21:39.980a flock camera or some kind of you know police camera they do happen to be sure but but typically
00:21:45.720in cases like this uh not that there is any case that's really like this you just don't get that
00:21:52.340high level of fidelity of information the way that we are receiving now and for the record just
00:21:59.760I want that video to be made public. I really want it to be made public. I understand that
00:22:05.680there are concerns about jury and all the rest, but the fact that this is on video
00:22:11.700needs to be put out. It just absolutely needs to be put out public to be able to see what's going
00:22:17.040on. Look, I was really persuaded by the media reporters' take on this. And obviously, I have
00:22:25.560a bias just as someone who wants to see more evidence, as someone who works and does a show
00:22:30.060every day, that it's about the integrity of the judicial system so that the public can see what
00:22:37.200the judge is ruling on. If there's something you're ruling on and it's not graphic, it's emotional,
00:22:41.940but it's not graphic, right? You see Tyler Robinson on the top of the roof, you don't see
00:22:46.240what's happening down below in the courtyard because it's from behind. So from that token,
00:22:52.180I would say if it's not graphic, just release it. And obviously, there are graphic videos that have already been released. Certainly there are some that have not, but you already know what happened to Charlie. You've seen it.
00:23:06.840And so it's really a situation where, you know, we've got this, you know, I guess I was going to ask you about this as well. I said the other day that the Sixth Amendment gives us the right, gives the accused the right to a speedy and public trial. And yet it seems like this time around, we're getting a slow and private trial in many ways.
00:23:30.540Well, it's, you know, the interesting thing is that the Utah system is much more open than the federal system or most states, which use a grand jury system.
00:23:38.920Because if you've got to think about it, the preliminary hearing is essentially the equivalent to the grand jury.
00:23:43.960In a grand jury, we wouldn't be getting any of this, right?
00:23:47.380Yeah, right. Like in a grand jury state, you just get an indictment from a grand jury and the proceedings are secret.
00:23:53.480And there is no pre-trial mass disclosure of the evidence that leads to a probable cause finding.
00:23:59.720Whereas in these preliminary hearing states, apparently they just decided like, yeah, we're just going to do all this in public, which, OK, that's, you know, that's a decision to make and there's there's virtues to it.
00:24:09.460But it is it is weird. And I'm sitting here as a lawyer thinking like because the voir dire process is going to involve the judge asking the jurors about their familiarity with the case and the evidence and, you know, how much like their ability to put all that aside and just listen to the admissible evidence that's put in front of them at the trial specifically.
00:24:27.480And so from the judge's perspective, I can totally see why, under the circumstances of this case, with this enormous amount of media attention, that he wouldn't want to put out a bunch of, you know, air all this evidence publicly.
00:24:41.420But he seems to have decided to do air the vast majority of it. And I think I mean, to to everybody's benefit, in the sense that we really needed to quiet down all these ridiculous conspiracy theories.
00:24:52.240But it is a strange system. In many ways, I think that what we're actually demonstrating here is the virtues of the grand jury system that is more efficient and leaner, right? You don't have to wait a year to get a grand jury indictment. Like the grand jury can handle this in a day or so, and then we'd already be well into the stage of, you know, pretrial motions and discovery, which remember, we're not even really there yet.
00:25:14.280I mean, the prosecution is giving over all the discovery in the interim, but normally, you know, this is discovery happens, you know, the core discovery motions especially happen after indictment.
00:25:26.560Yeah, that's a great point. And so, you know, here I am saying, you know, when are we going to get the evidence of the cell phone data or when are we going to get the evidence of this, that or the other thing?
00:25:37.220but you know essentially and this is something the media has to fight for the public has to fight for
00:25:41.840because this is something that the investigators already would have they would already have that
00:25:46.560they don't need to make it public uh and of course they said that again and again in trial they don't
00:25:53.460need to make it public to get the conviction all they have to do is show it to a jury all they have
00:25:57.760to do is present to court and of course they have to share a copy with the defense and that's a
00:26:02.940point that I keep coming back to because, of course, the defense has already seen all these
00:26:06.600videos. The defense has already seen all of this data. And yet the defense has seen no reason to
00:26:12.220call any of it up except for trying to challenge the DNA and challenge the ballistics. And so last
00:26:16.440minute to you, Will, again, you know, it seems the defense has all of this evidence and yet
00:26:22.220is not attempting to, quote unquote, attack the veracity of any of it to try to defend their
00:26:29.740plan. That's right. You know, you know, anybody, any theories out there that's, you know, would
00:26:34.900purport to say that somebody other than Tyler Robinson was the man who shot here and any of
00:26:39.980this other involvement or whatever, these ridiculous stories here about Google searches or
00:26:43.640something. None of that. The defense attorneys have, you know, every reason in the world and
00:26:48.920every incentive in the world to try and use credible evidence to undermine the prosecutor's
00:26:53.460case. And they aren't using any of that, which should give you pause if you're one of these
00:26:57.000people proffering these ridiculous and absurd conspiracies. Will Chamberlain, where can people
00:27:01.980go to follow you, brother? At Will Chamberlain on X and follow the Article 3 Project at a3paction.com.
00:27:07.960All right, thank you. Right back with J-Town here at Human Defense Daily.
00:27:27.000jack where's jack where is he jack i want to see you
00:27:37.640great job jack thank you what a job you do you know we have an incredible thing we're
00:27:44.980always talking about the fake news and the bad but we have guys and these are the guys
00:29:24.480And you put together a thread in the analysis, I guess, on Friday, right after the whole thing broke down, detailing, you know, you went through two pieces.
00:29:33.660One was the interview of Lance Twiggs.
00:29:35.640The other was the bullets, the etchings of them, the rifle.
00:29:41.280Walk us through a little bit, if that, if you could, and just sort of your takeaways from this preliminary hearing that we had last week.
00:29:50.740Yeah, the, you know, the evidence. So I before I was the United States attorney in the first Trump administration, I was a career prosecutor, homicide prosecutor for about 13 years, investigating and prosecuted hundreds of homicide cases in my career.
00:30:06.360I can tell you, I've never seen a case with this much evidence, certainly haven't seen a case with more, where the guy wasn't begging to plead guilty.
00:30:18.120And typically, at least when I sought the death penalty, it was very rare that if I was determined to seek the death penalty that I would offer any kind of a plea agreement.
00:30:26.280So if I'm seeking death, then death will be the penalty or you can whip me in court.
00:30:30.800Those are the two things that can happen.
00:30:32.280So in this case, though, and what I went through in my thread, because I'm just I'm just sort of confused isn't the right word, Jack.
00:30:43.140But, you know, the idea that there's people out there that that aren't even convinced to a level of probable cause that Tyler Robinson is responsible for Charlie Kirk's murder.
00:30:53.540It just it just sort of, you know, anyone with a functioning limbic system should be able to get there.
00:30:58.580But these people have all these wild theories. They still will say to this minute right now, there's not one shred of evidence against Tyler Robinson.
00:31:07.220And here's what I'll just say. Well, then, why is this? And this is sort of a list of the evidence very quickly.
00:31:12.600Why is this DNA on the gun? The shell casings that were found in the gun, the towel covering the gun in the very spot where he went back and looked for the gun,
00:31:21.160The screwdriver that was used to reassemble the weapon on the roof.
00:31:25.480The test shot cartridge that was found in Robinson's home.
00:31:28.920Oh, by the way, same round make and model as the ones that were found in the rifle.
00:31:33.380And then I think we'll find that the Dremel tool that was used for the engravings.
00:31:37.980I bet you that has his DNA on it, too.
00:31:40.020But we know from Twiggs that he was using it because he asked Twiggs specifically where it was so that he could carve some things to go hunting,
00:31:47.760which is just an ominous forecast of Tyler Robinson's activities here.
00:31:53.860And then the text to Twiggs where he makes admissions.
00:31:56.980You don't usually, first of all, you don't normally get a gun in a murder case.
00:32:11.980and his text to Twigs, he knows exactly the location of the weapon and says there's a
00:32:17.580there's a police car there and they think he thinks they swept the area, but maybe didn't
00:32:22.080find it. And then he egresses back there to try to get it. There's the conversation with Twigs
00:32:27.600in the home where he says, yeah, I wish I hadn't done it. And he starts crying. The note to Twigs
00:32:31.800under the keyboard and it was found partially burnt in the garbage. Conversations with friends,
00:32:37.700The family friend, Mike Mitchell, the conversations with his parents, all the video that you've talked about.
00:32:43.320And then, of course, the ATM report where, you know, you know, typically and you will have an interesting conversation about I want that to be public.
00:32:50.740I want that video to be public. And Jack, I got to tell you, normally I would disagree with you.
00:32:54.600I would say, no, you're just making it harder on the prosecutor, because remember, you're not just prosecuting a case to a guilty verdict.
00:33:01.460You're prosecuting a case to a guilty verdict that withstands appeal.
00:33:05.000And do you really want to have voir dire be so difficult where people, you know, they just don't know so much about the case that it's hard for them to be impartial?
00:33:13.000Or they, worse yet, tell everybody they can be impartial, but they aren't.
00:33:17.520Or they say they didn't know about a piece of evidence, but there's some tweet from, you know, 2025 where they're talking about it or they like to tweet.
00:33:26.380And then that's a technicality on appeal.
00:34:53.820But my guess is that that evidence exists as well.
00:34:58.180And that will actually put him in location.
00:35:00.660Like that's a maybe a 10 by 10 yard radius that they can put that ad tech can put you in.
00:35:07.200And so that's going to be even more helpful.
00:35:09.980And then, of course, there's the videos that his parents recognized him, Twigs recognized him.
00:35:14.240How anybody is saying there's no evidence is beyond me.
00:35:18.580Those people aren't serious people. I don't care who they are.
00:35:20.820whether tinfoil hat, you know, podcast, quick bait people.
00:35:24.340But this case has already, in my mind, been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
00:35:29.400Now, they've got to get it all admitted in court the proper way,
00:35:32.260but I don't think that's going to be very difficult for this team.
00:35:35.480And, Jay, you add in your thread information as well about how the bullets that were found
00:35:43.040and specifically the etchings on them give us not only the motive in this case
00:35:48.740but also the fact that since it was a political motive, that leads to one of the enhancements for aggravated murder.
00:35:58.140That's very important. Thank you for bringing that up.
00:36:00.100Yeah. So the the in Utah and there are lots of aggravators to get to the death penalty.
00:36:07.200One of them is that you are motivated by politics to especially the politics of the murder victim.
00:36:13.120In this case, Charlie Kirk. And hey, fascist catch is, you know, a very obvious this is political.
00:36:21.580This isn't a religious thing or some other, you know, personal grudge.
00:36:26.540And there's there's a lot to do with the LGBTQ community, the O.W.O.
00:36:34.560What's this? The Bulge. That's a furry community thing.
00:36:38.800the antifa uh remarks and things like that the fact that he actually talked about what i believe
00:36:44.640it was with his father and also with twigs that charlie kirk was well he just couldn't it was in
00:36:50.340the note you know you you just can't negotiate away hate uh and uh and then of course the the
00:36:57.320oh bella chow chow chow uh that's part of the uh antifa antifa anthem uh and the fact that lmao is
00:37:05.420on there um just let you know that uh this guy has no remorse his crying the next day was that
00:37:12.520he was caught his crying the next day was not that he wished he hadn't done it his wish he
00:37:16.520hadn't done it and gotten caught um and i don't feel any remorse for tyler robinson he's got the
00:37:22.800death penalty coming and then he still has hell to look forward to well and we now know that
00:37:29.620You know, at that point, that's when investigators were already beginning to, you know, to start to put things together.
00:37:37.920They put the pieces together of the images of the shooter from the stairwell track back the black clad figure who was on the roof to that figure on the stairwell.
00:37:50.580And in fact, there was a police officer who had had an interaction with that car, that 2013 Dodge Challenger, and an individual in the night who had run the license plate, already had the name Tyler Robinson.
00:38:02.900I believe, excuse me, that he later ran the plate and got the name of Tyler Robinson.
00:38:07.460So it was already becoming a situation where this guy was going to get arrested one way or the other because of the amount of the evidence.
00:38:20.920Jack Posobiec back, Real America's Voice, Human Events Daily.
00:38:37.460wasn't for Jack Posobiec. And that is, I'm being honest. All right, we're back. Jack Posobiec here
00:38:47.540live, Real America's Voice, Human Events Daily. We're on with Jay Town, former U.S. Attorney
00:38:52.680in the first Trump administration. Jay, you wanted to finish a point you were making
00:38:56.280regarding that issue of the evidence publication, because look, you know,
00:39:02.020I've always said, even beyond this trial, beyond anything I've been directly connected to,
00:39:05.860just when it comes to these cases, that I think that putting out more evidence ultimately is in
00:39:12.060the public good. And it's better, not just by the way, for our society, it's also better for
00:39:17.920the integrity of the judicial system. Wanted to get your final thought on that.
00:39:23.760Yeah. And what I was saying is that normally I would disagree with you prior to a trial.
00:39:28.900Certainly everything should be made public that happens in the courtroom. But because of the way
00:39:35.280the defense has interacted with the public.
00:43:10.180Right. That's that's that's very that's my mom saying that.
00:43:16.400And of course, we have those statements now.
00:43:19.020We know the defense didn't or excuse me, the prosecution or the defense did not call the parents to the to the stand, of course, in this instance.
00:43:28.580Yet they were there in the courtroom. They were there in the courtroom every day, obviously representing their son as opposed to hearing specifically as witnesses.
00:43:37.300But, Dave, do you think that this thing ends, assuming this goes to trial, do the parents of Tyler Robinson get called to the stand?
00:43:47.180If this goes to trial, they absolutely have to be called to the stand.
00:43:50.820And there's no way that anybody can keep them off the stand, meaning there's no privileges that exist that disallow their testimony.
00:43:59.740And look, if the state of Utah is serious about the death penalty, then there has to be a trial because the only way to get death in Utah is if 12 people award it to you after a guilty verdict.
00:44:09.520You move on to the death phase and they decide what the penalty is going to be, life without parole or death.
00:44:14.900So it would have to go to trial to give him the death penalty.
00:44:20.260And that is a very, I mean, think about it.
00:44:22.740Mom and dad are not going to want to do it.
00:44:24.660The defense counsel is going to come up and talk about their troubled son and how they're falling out.
00:44:29.740And, you know, that's fine. But his mom just recognized him on TV at the crime scene, you know, and the very clothes that the shooter was wearing.
00:44:38.480And and and so with all the other evidence and the admissions that Tyler no doubt made to them, especially to the father, when he was questioning about, I want you know, I want to see the gun.
00:44:48.580I want to see the Mauser. Well, OK, Dad, I'll get back to you. Right.
00:44:53.600I mean, there's reasons for those suspicions and the father's going to have to tell it.
00:44:57.520And I do hate that for the parents. I do. But that's just how it is. You raised a murderer.
00:45:05.680And and, you know, it's it's something where just having spent some, you know, lengthy time in the same room as them.
00:45:16.160They seem like decent people. They seem like good people.
00:45:19.340um his parents are victims too in many ways and just in the sense that you know they they were not
00:45:27.320trying to do anything like this and i i have to give them credit for picking up the phone and
00:45:32.780doing what they did because that's got to be one of the hardest phone calls you ever have to make
00:45:37.940especially as a father especially as a mother to pick up the phone and knowing what's going to
00:45:44.120happen knowing what's going to happen after the fact that you're going to do that and I just I
00:45:49.760can't imagine Jay that that any parent would do that unless they were sure. Correct and and I think
00:45:58.720one of the ways they were sure was not just the images but in their conversations with Tyler
00:46:02.980Robinson that's how they were sure they specifically asked him was that you and he said yes
00:46:07.840that's me guessing we haven't heard that out of their mouth yet but they turned their son in and
00:46:13.600probably saved their son's life he might have taken his own life or you know uh maybe maybe
00:46:18.740resisted with violence i don't know if he had other weapons in the home uh but you know that
00:46:23.820that was i think their motivation is we can lose our son much much later or we can lose him today
00:46:30.040uh and i think that was their i mean just good just awful and terrible choices that was you know
00:46:37.940they had to choose between those. Um, but they did the right thing as did twigs. All these people
00:46:43.620in Robinson's life did the right thing. So you can't tell me, and this is my argument as a
00:46:49.640prosecutor, his parents did the right thing. His lover did the right thing. All these people closest
00:46:54.280to him did the right thing. You can't tell me that he didn't know right from wrong. You can't
00:46:58.220tell me that he didn't know what the right thing was because these people around him knew, right?
00:47:02.620But they knew, and they were the people who raised him, at least in the case of the parents.
00:47:08.500And again, to your point, and just as we only have a minute left, but the point that you raised, I think, is so important that crazy people, lunatics, don't plan to this level.
00:47:20.780They don't premeditate to this level three hours away and and going up on the roof, hiding it the way that he did, writing the letter beforehand, writing the auto text, pre-scheduled auto text beforehand.
00:47:33.680I mean, this just shows a level of planning, but it clearly shows a clarity, a direct clarity of intent in that planning.
00:47:43.900Yep. You know, people that plead insanity successfully, they don't they do not know right from wrong.
00:47:49.120he did that's why you secret things down your pants that's why you hide things in a towel
00:47:53.360uh you know that's why you go back for the gun uh and ask people to to shred the letter that's
00:47:59.480why the letter's partially burnt that admitted to all this so he knew i know you got to go but
00:48:03.860this was great because he knew jay where can people go to follow you man where can people
00:48:07.640follow you at jtownalabama on x at jtownalabama on x great follow make sure you include him on
00:48:14.120yours ladies and gentlemen as always you have my permission to lay ashore