EPISODE 494： LIVE FROM THE MIAMI COURTHOUSE： MAGA RALLIES BEHIND PRESIDENT TRUMP
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A day which will live in infamy. President Trump has arrived in Miami to attend a press conference with Vice President Joe Biden, who is being arraigned on a charge of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and conspiracy to obstruct justice. Meanwhile, outside of the courthouse, thousands of people have gathered in support of Trump.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.
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This is a weaponized government attempt to take down the top political enemy
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and leading presidential candidate of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
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According to the 1023, the foreign national possesses two audio recordings of phone calls
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7% of likely Republican voters say the indictment has given them a worse view of Trump.
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These recordings were allegedly kept as a sort of insurance policy for the foreign national
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We cannot allow the government to be weaponized for political purposes.
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As a prosecutor, if you were in the Justice Department's place,
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would you go to the 11th Circuit and try to get her pushed off the case?
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This is not something that should happen in the United States of America.
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And it could be the final nail in the coffin of our democracy.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition, Human Events, June 13th, 2023.
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We've got cameras up in front of the courthouse.
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His motorcade, they've gone into a garage entrance underneath the courthouse there in Miami.
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We've also got Natalie Winters that I want to bring up on here.
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And are you seeing any signs of the opposition there on the ground?
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Not only do you have me here, of course, all of War Room here.
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Basically, right now, you can probably hear the protesters, the helicopters, like I've been saying all day, overwhelmingly in support of Trump.
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I'd say if you run the numbers, 90% pro-Trump, about 10% anti-Trump.
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Of course, any time the media sees a protester or a sign that is negative or pejorative towards Donald Trump, they run towards it like rats fling a sinking ship.
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I'm sure it'll be an interesting narrative that they start pushing out later tonight.
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But as I've said, the protesters for Trump, not only are we, I mean, it's startling in terms of both quality and quantity.
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I would say they're easily, I mean, around 1,000, if not upwards of 1,000 people here.
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And when you talk about the quality of these protesters, these are not just people who stumbled here.
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These are people who have driven over 12 hours just to come out here and show their support.
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They have flags, T-shirts, hats, hoodies, you name it.
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So much merch, I didn't even know it was possible.
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And for what it's worth, right behind me here, we got Carrie Lake, who just arrived.
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And there is some members of the Trump campaign team standing outside of the courthouse right now.
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You can't see them because they're a little blocked off, but they're right just over my right shoulder.
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They've blocked off the, not this street, but the street to my right, as you said, pulling in via a garage.
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I overheard on the security system of a police officer I was standing next to.
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The top opposition candidate to the Biden administration is now in the process of being arraigned.
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This indictment by the Biden DOJ, and we can't overlook that.
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Natalie, I'm looking at the security situation.
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I was watching your excellent coverage this morning on War Room.
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Why didn't the Miami mayor put up barricades to separate these groups?
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Well, that's what's so interesting, and I want to even step back a little bit because the media presence here, I don't think I could overestimate it.
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I mean, there are, it's not just that there are well over 100 tents with every different outlet.
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Within those tents, there are dozens of people.
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And I was talking earlier today, actually, with John Fredericks, and I made the point, and I stand by it, the media isn't necessarily here to see Trump, right?
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Like you said, he just pulled in via some underground garage.
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They're probably not going to get that many good shots of him.
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I think they are here waiting for something, like you alluded to, whether it's a Charlottesville, a January 6th-type incident.
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They're waiting here for something to go wrong so they can parade tonight and probably for the next decade saying, look, Trump supporters, they're domestic terrorists.
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They're everything we say they are, though we know they aren't.
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And you make the excellent point when it comes to the barricades.
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I've been saying all day, I mean, the only actual physical blockades that you see are constructed with yellow police tape.
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And it's so hot here in Miami when they were doing the bomb threat and we were conducting the searches when the bomb threat was issued.
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The sun was so hot, it was melting the police tape.
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So there really is no meaningful physical blockades.
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And when it comes to the sort of arrangement or assortment of the protesters, for instance, when the bomb threat happened,
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there really is no meaningful separation between the pro and anti-Trump ones.
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I had to walk past quite a few, don't necessarily know if they were Antifa, but Antifa-esque type protesters, people screaming, like I said, wild anti-Trump stuff.
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But again, my overall takeaway from this day is that 85 to 90 percent of the people here, with the exception, of course, of the mainstream media, are pro-Trump.
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But the ones who aren't pro-Trump, the media is really, really overtly focusing on, which I'm sure that bias will probably display in their coverage later tonight.
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But I really think they are waiting here, waiting for MAGA to sort of make another fake cardinal sin, which is, of course, domestic terrorism, domestic extremism.
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It's just patriots who love their president, people who've driven hours and hours just to, I think, show Donald Trump the same support that they feel reciprocated from him with all the arrows that he's had to take from this deep state, starting all the way back in 2016.
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Natalie, we're coming up on a break, but I just want to just commend you on the coverage there.
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The police tape is melting, yet the people are being peaceful and patriotic, peacefully and patriotic, folks.
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We've got people all across the ground, cameras on the ground.
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The package has arrived to the federal courthouse there in Miami.
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Folks, this is the time we take our country back.
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I have to remind you, Turning Point's Action Conference.
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It is coming all together just about an hour from where you see these images right now where all this is happening, the Miami courthouse.
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It's almost like serendipity, Providence, you might call it, that we are going to be right back.
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President Trump, myself, Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk, and of course, Scott Pressler.
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It's all coming up in a couple of weeks, mid-July.
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I want to bring down now Richard Barris, the People's Pundit.
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We've never seen anything like this before in American history.
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The federal government indicting their top political rival, the top opposition candidate, if this were any other country, we'd call it exactly what it was.
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But we got a show to do here, so we have to look at the data.
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What are you seeing in the numbers on the back of this indictment?
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Jack, the short answer to that is this is going to help the former president in a primary, and there has been no deterioration of support in a general election against Joe Biden, a hypothetical matchup.
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So it's not hurting him nationally in a general.
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You know, and that's, you know, tragic as something to celebrate.
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I don't know that any presidential candidate wants to have to have that to boost their numbers.
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But Republicans see this as a political persecution.
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And I've been trying to explain this to people who have really, come on, let's be serious, relied on these indictments to strengthen their candidates.
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They were really hoping that Republicans would submit, and they're not.
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So there's this bond he has with these voters, and some of them who are giving other candidates a second look, see something like this happen, and they think to themselves, you know, he was there for me.
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And this is a question of whether I'm going to be there for him, and I'm going to tolerate this.
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And I know Charlie brought this up as well, and I have to ask you, Vivek Ramaswamy, the only other Republican candidate to show up today, is it a tactical mistake for the other candidates to go completely silent on a day like this?
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Well, let me give people a little bit, let me give them a little background on that.
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100%, I heard his statement, I watched his press conference, he is 100%, folks, telling you the truth, when he tells you that donors are calling, you know, and telling other candidates to stay away from this indictment, because they don't view this as some big question about what this means for the future of our country.
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They view this as something they've been expecting for months.
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So if you're a candidate, you're thinking, I don't want to upset my donors, and I don't want to lose out on funding, but the voters want something very different than what the donors want.
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And the donors have been being, and the candidates are not, they're not clean in this.
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They have been reassuring these donors for months.
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But once the federal indictments come, we're going to be the second choice.
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We're going to be the only choice, the replacement.
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I don't know, Jack, there's going to be other things.
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But this was the federal indictment that perhaps could hurt the most, politically speaking.
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I know I speak to voters for a living, but I really didn't think it took, you know, interviewing hundreds of people a day to see something that's so plainly obvious.
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It's stunning to me that anybody could conclude that there would be a different outcome here.
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These voters are tired of Republicans stabbing them in the back and breaking their promises.
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This is literally the only man who never did that to them.
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And if you're the type of candidate, Rich, who says that you're not all talk and that you're all about action, what kind of a signal does it send that on a day when the U.S. government is being exploited and weaponized to go after a political opponent, that you go silent?
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That you do not stand up when it matters, that you're not there when it matters.
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Voters are busy, but they're not stupid, and they know what they're seeing here.
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They know what it means when the governor of that state isn't even there to weigh in on this, right?
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That's why you should vote for me because my administration will never tolerate something like this.
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They see right through a consultant written statement like that.
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DeSantis' unfavorable ratings among Republicans are rising every day, even in his own state now.
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Mike Pence, nationwide, his unfavorables with Republicans, a 6 out of 10 can't stand him.
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You would have thought that any strategist or consultant worth half his weight, right, would have said, go down there, take a stand, stop this bleeding with Republican voters, and they didn't do it.
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It tells them what they know to be true, which is that they're banking on this.
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Look, if they do this to Trump, they can do it to any candidate.
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They're already coming out to what was the award ceremony.
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They're already starting to move the white nationalist, Christian nationalist type of attack on him.
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They've already begun the predictive programming narrative here.
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That is why, in situations like this, and not just DeSantis, but Scott, Haley, Chris Christie, hop on an airplane.
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I know you ain't going to be jogging down, but hop on an airplane, Chris Christie, and actually show up.
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I'd love to hold you over the break as we continue our live coverage here.
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We're looking at this, people chanting, you've got the Miami Cubans down there.
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And I've said this before, actually, Rich, I want to ask you when we come back, because I know that you have done polling in the field from a jury selection panel screen.
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Because the idea is, if you can just get a couple of those, I call them the based Cubans.
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If you get a couple of based Cubans, Pasado, Pasado Cubanos, up on that jury, then they are not going to go along with this.
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They fled Cuba to flee exactly what we're seeing right here.
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And they're not going to let the United States of America go down this way.
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And I think, look, you know, if you want to stand up and be a leader of people like this, then lead from the front.
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You can lead from the front and the people will follow.
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All right, we have a very special moment here, human events.
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They're on the ground with a very special guest for us live in Miami.
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And if you've got a question, give it to me in a minute.
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I'm going to bring in Carrie Lake, outstanding rock star for the Republican Party.
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America First, now a hit record out there as well, 81 million votes, and now supporting Donald Trump.
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Why is it important for you and other patriots to be outside this corner?
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We need to show President Trump that we've got his back.
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He has had our back since he came down that escalator almost eight years to the date, really, if you think about it.
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And they have thrown everything at him, witch hunt, impeachment hoax number one, impeachment hoax number two, Russiagate.
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But it's really just an effort to continue to disparage the one man who is standing up for We the People.
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We need a president who's going to stand up for the people.
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He is working for us, and we're here to support him and tell him we know what this is.
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We know he's an innocent man, and we're here to support him.
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And, by the way, this is one of the most beautiful settings I've ever seen, the love here, hundreds, maybe thousands of people here.
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But funny, Ed, and you know this because you used to work for some of these other outlets.
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I saw two people who were here who were against Trump, and the media was around them.
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They won't show this amazing, loving situation, environment we have here.
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Yeah, and you can see that people are out here in droves, just like they would be for a Trump rally or anywhere else.
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They want to hear the message because they know that we're fighting to take the soul of our country back.
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How much of this political persecution is about elections right now?
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They know he's going to be a force to be reckoned with, and they know he's going to win.
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This is election interference like we've never seen it before.
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I mean, indicting a former president to stop him from running, to try to prevent him.
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But I'm so glad he put out a truth, I think it was yesterday or the day before, saying nothing will stop me.
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He's going to continue to fight for we the people.
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And, Kerry, last thing, we'll bring it back to Jack.
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Two tiers of justice, which we talk about all the time.
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Donald Trump, you mentioned one of the impeachment hoax was over Ukraine.
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And that perfect phone call he talks about where he was telling Zelensky, go investigate Biden corruption.
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Now there are audiotapes suggesting there was $10 million in bribes associated with what Donald Trump was impeached over.
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And meanwhile, Joe Biden and his family allegedly collected $10 million in bribes when he was VP.
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He's not in court being arraigned, but Donald Trump is.
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And that's just one incident of, I'm willing to bet, hundreds with Biden.
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We heard earlier this week, we found out about another $5 million payout from the CCP, the communist regime,
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the incredibly cruel communist regime who imprisons and has used a slave labor,
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and they're the most cruel regime on the planet, giving Joe Biden payouts.
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And he's giving his friends in the fake news cover something for them to talk about
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so that they don't have to talk about what Joe Biden and his family have been up to.
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And I hope the American people, I know that the people out here aren't falling for that,
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but I hope people at home aren't falling for that anymore.
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I know you're going to go address some of the patriots who are here supporting President Trump.
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We appreciate you joining Real America's Voice.
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We need honest, truthful news, and we get that with Ralph.
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And, Jack, as we toss it back to you, Karen and I, before we interviewed Carrie,
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you noted Jason Miller came out, Stephen Chung, the spokesman for the campaign,
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and Alina Habba, one of the lead attorneys, obviously, overall on the broader legal team,
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But the point is that as that motorcade's, you know, coming in and you're getting ready for the arraignment,
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you have the full force of this campaign team and outside advisors like Carrie Lake
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trying to shape this narrative, trying to push back against what they see is not just a prosecution,
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I've also gotten word that Melania Trump has arrived.
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Richard Barris, I'd love to get you in again, your comment on all this.
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This is why Republicans cannot expand their tent.
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There is this group, and we talk about them a lot, you know, and we're in Miami.
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So, in the poll we did in Florida, Trump's got a lead over the governor among Cuban voters,
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He's got a similar lead with these new Venezuelan voters, 70-20.
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They're part of, but they're not all of, you know, nationwide, this group of vote that
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Donald Trump can drive out that no other Republicans can.
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And this is why Republicans have this problem with their own party members and people who
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They don't like their leaders because the Republican Party is, you know, I joke about
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They're like, you know, one-third cowardly, one-third corrupt, and the other third is stupid.
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You know, I mean, if they just did what Democrats would do, they would expand their tent into these
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voters who are otherwise really turned off by the system and feel like nobody is fighting
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for them, this is a big reason why Trump has the lead he has and why he performs the way
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he does in a general and other Republicans just won't and can't.
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But, you know, leading into the commercial, what you were saying before, the voters I was
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just talking about, you get a Cuban or a newly naturalized Venezuelan on one of those
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juries, Jack, and you make this a question about their sovereignty.
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This isn't about the case law they're trying to convolute to confuse you.
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This is ultimately, the question the jury has to answer is whether or not you choose
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your president in this country or the administrative state chooses it, and you get somebody like
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that on that jury, they know what time it is, Jack.
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You know, Americans, we've always had this false sense of security, and we've always had
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it really good compared to the rest of the world.
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They haven't, and they know what time it is when they hear things like this, and they
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And for them, there's nowhere left to go, Jack.
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Are we going to be the shining city, or are we going to fall into a thousand years of darkness?
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We've got a little more time to be able to chat about these numbers and also get into
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about the jury selection because I think you are exactly right.
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The Basada, the Basado Cubanos, folks, Basado Cubanos.
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I want to go on to, now next, after the break, joining us will be Ben Berquam.
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He's got some more color for us there on the street, walking us through everything that's
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Melania Trump just arriving, eyes of the world, China, Russia, everyone.
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They're looking at Miami right now to see how this goes down.
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Okay, we're now getting word that Fox and other sources have pulled back that initial
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report about Melania being the one that they had on video that just arrived at the courthouse.
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We're going to be doing our best to keep all of this active and in doing that on the ground
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Because we are doing that, we're going to go straight to the ground.
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And the great Ben Berquam, who's been out there, who's been in the heat, this guy's
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That's how long he's been out there on these mean streets.
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I got to tell you, I don't know if you can see my brother's hat here.
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You've got people from all over the world that have come here that are sick of what these
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leftists are doing, trying to turn America communists.
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And what is your message to the American people having come from Haiti?
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We have to fight with every fiber in our bodies because the left and the woke and the sorrows
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are really trying to eliminate us, just like Bill Gates went on TV and said half of us
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President Trump is fighting against a big, evil, mean machine.
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And that is why I'm here supporting him, because he's fighting for me.
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He's fighting for everybody here, all the minorities.
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President Trump, as everyone knows who's doing the research, has done a lot more for all
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the minority, for the minorities than all the current American president combined.
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Meaning from Jimmy Carter to Obama, President Trump has done a lot more for all the minorities
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You know, isn't it ironic that they talk about, they call him a fascist, they call him a white
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It's people from all over the world, Jack, that have escaped communism, have escaped
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corruption, have escaped dictators, saying, if you're able to do it to President Trump,
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And that's what I tell a lot of my friends, because now Haiti is a total mess.
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The Clintons have made a horrible mess of Haiti.
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There's no way you can move in France, because with the open border, now when you go to Paris,
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there are tents like San Francisco with the migrants.
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We have to fight for it, otherwise there's nowhere else to go.
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Ben, you know, in terms of the folks that you've talked to, I mean, you're at one of the
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most international cities right now throughout the Caribbean, throughout other areas down
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In fact, I had what appeared to be an Antifa photographer.
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They have a whole network of people that came up and has taken pictures of me.
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I don't know if it was trying to get the MAGA posse to not show up on this.
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We're calling it MAGA Pride Day out here, the day before President Trump's birthday and
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I don't know if it was idle threats or if they're still coming.
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But I got to tell you, talking to the folks here, there's nobody that's afraid of them.
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We're not going to let these terrorists intimidate us and get us to go home.
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And most of the time, my experience with Antifa and any of these organizations is to
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simply, all they're trying to do is intimidate people.
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If you want to go and just throw somebody on to be able to say hi to the folks.
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Let's see if people are from Florida, anyone out.
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I'd love to get some more color on from there on the ground.
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Well, first of all, I like real American choice.
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But I mean, let me tell you, you guys, my message is that we are being overtaken by world
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And that's beyond, behind what's behind, behind Trump.
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I mean, behind Biden, behind this all democratic people that are trying to change our culture,
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And it's slowly that we're becoming, we're becoming a nation of that's the ground for
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I came over here, leaving the communist in 1962.
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So I could not, you cannot get any more America than that.
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How concerned are you that America is going that direction that Cuba went?
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You can see, you can, well, first of all, Cuba is the, is the, is the, is the rock is where
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And the major problem is, a lot of people don't know this, but the major problem is when the
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Bay of Pig invasion failed intentionally by the woke America back in those days, like
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See, those, all those people are, are the ones that made the Bay of Pig invasion fail.
00:29:37.080
You just heard another Haitian, the friend of mine, people from all over the world that
00:29:40.400
have escaped it, saying, don't do this to America.
00:29:44.500
I keep asking, does this make you support Trump more or less?
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Everybody without fail, they support Trump more.
00:29:51.660
If he'd, if he'd be willing to answer, ask him if he, if he were called to the jury, how
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If he were called to the jury, if any of his friends were.
00:30:00.080
Let me ask you, Jack wants to ask you a question.
00:30:02.220
If you were asked to call, if you were called onto the jury, how would you rule on this case
00:30:08.340
Well, you know, I don't know the details, but he's, he's been used for politics and the
00:30:17.920
They're making up all kinds of, all kinds of accusations.
00:30:23.340
You just trust, you just don't trust the Democrats, what they're bringing.
00:30:27.900
They are very scared that he's going to, he's going to be elected and they're all, they don't
00:30:36.300
I just hope they don't kill him like they did President Kennedy.
00:30:40.200
Well, that's one of the things, Jack, we got to do.
00:30:52.100
That's incredible that I heard what he just said right there.
00:30:54.860
We got, we're going to a break in a minute, but saying that we should pray for President
00:30:58.800
Trump, that he isn't killed the way that they killed Kennedy.
00:31:08.080
We're going to be discussing that very much in detail.
00:31:12.040
The fact that this is exactly that we are seeing.
00:31:17.080
President Trump is intended to plead, intending to plead not guilty.
00:31:22.440
We've got the Basato Cubanos that are there on the ground.
00:31:26.120
When we come back after the break, I want to bring in Mike Davis because he's going to
00:31:31.160
Now, folks, understand in a federal courthouse, there are no cameras.
00:31:37.320
There's never been a federal trial that's been televised.
00:31:42.740
That means that you are not going to get it on TV.
00:31:48.500
You're just going to get your, you'll get the sketches, the court artist, all the rest.
00:31:54.100
So Mike Davis is going to tell us, though, what happens in these cases.
00:31:58.120
And then in this case, the arraignment season, the arraignment session, as it goes through
00:32:03.940
All right, Jack Posobiec, we are continuing our live coverage from the Miami courthouse.
00:32:26.060
As of now, we're still told no signs of Antifa on the ground.
00:32:33.860
Maybe they're celebrating Pride Month a little too hard last night.
00:32:37.940
Also, I've got a note in from the break from a listener saying, I think it's Cubanos Basados.
00:32:55.660
But I wanted to bring on Mike Davis now, the great Mike Davis, Article 3 Project.
00:32:59.700
Mike, President Trump is inside federal courtrooms, federal trials.
00:33:11.560
But can you walk us through a little bit of what is happening to President Trump right
00:33:16.660
The last image we received, him stepping out of the motorcade, then going into this garage.
00:33:23.080
What's going on inside the courthouse in general?
00:33:27.080
Yeah, so we have President Biden ordering this political raid on Trump to get back his
00:33:32.160
presidential records he's allowed to have under the Presidential Records Act.
00:33:35.300
They appointed this special counsel, Jack Smith, this partisan special counsel, Jack Smith,
00:33:41.440
to do this grand jury investigation in Washington, D.C. with Beryl Howell, this Democrat-appointed
00:33:48.080
judge who blew through President Trump's constitutional rights, attorney-client privilege.
00:33:53.600
They have brought their charges, their indictment, with this bogus legal theory that a former
00:34:00.280
president, having his presidential, retaining his presidential records is somehow espionage,
00:34:05.320
even though there's, the Espionage Act does not apply.
00:34:08.000
And even if the Espionage Act does apply, there's no, there's no allegation whatsoever of harm
00:34:20.920
So I don't think they're going to be able to handcuff him or put him into a holding cell.
00:34:25.280
He'll go in, I presume, to the magistrate judge.
00:34:28.420
I think it's going to be Bruce Reinhart, this biased magistrate judge who had recused from
00:34:33.800
President Trump's civil lawsuit against Hillary Clinton back in, because of his 2017 Facebook
00:34:39.720
post, somehow that judicial bias went away six weeks later when Garland's and his Justice
00:34:46.020
Department went to this biased magistrate judge to get the unprecedented home rate on Trump
00:34:51.220
to get back presidential records Trump was allowed to have under the Presidential Records
00:34:56.020
They have their initial hearing, their arraignment today, where they tell President Trump what
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And I don't think they're seeking pretrial detention.
00:35:09.580
But and then I think he's going to go on his way.
00:35:14.540
In most criminal cases, there are plea bargainings and plea agreements.
00:35:21.040
There is preliminary hearings, pretrial motions.
00:35:24.560
They'll file a motion to dismiss this indictment because it's flawed as a legal matter.
00:35:29.920
The Presidential Records Act, not the Espionage Act controls.
00:35:33.960
There are post-trial motions, appeals, and they could go all the way to the Supreme Court.
00:35:38.440
You could have a president of the United States who was unjustly convicted, who was elected
00:35:43.800
and put back into the White House, where he can dismiss the charges against him with prejudice
00:35:50.320
That's what needs to happen here is we need to put President Trump back in the White House.
00:35:54.720
This is a bogus political hit to take out a political rifle.
00:36:01.560
And as I said before, if this were happening in any other country, we would call it exactly
00:36:07.980
But but Mike, so two things that I've been trying to track, of course, just like in New
00:36:11.160
York, it looks like we're not getting a mugshot.
00:36:14.820
It looks like they're not doing the mugshot that would have sold 10 million T-shirts, maybe
00:36:23.580
There is also a question, though, because I've seen this in multiple other federal cases,
00:36:30.920
Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, where they actually will restrict international travel by taking
00:36:40.500
Do you think that's something that could be done here?
00:36:49.700
I mean, he has federal law enforcement, secret service who follow him everywhere he goes.
00:36:54.360
It's not like he's going to go run and hide in Thailand or something.
00:37:01.780
Think about what the Democrats are trying to do here, Jack.
00:37:04.560
We have allegations that Trump kept his presidential records, which are they claim are national
00:37:11.800
defense information or they're not even claiming it's classified.
00:37:16.720
They're claiming that Trump kept these records, which he's allowed to do under the Presidential
00:37:22.180
They're claiming that President Trump was a jerk and got into a fight with the librarians
00:37:27.420
and the other bureaucrats and didn't want to turn over his presidential records.
00:37:30.720
And so they want to put him in prison for the rest of his life over this.
00:37:41.420
And even if the Espionage Act somehow applies, even if we're going to ignore the Controlling
00:37:47.260
Presidential Records Act, the idea you're going to put a former president and a top political
00:37:53.260
rival in prison for the rest of his life over a records dispute with librarians at the archives
00:38:00.400
and deep state snakes at the Justice Department is not going to fly with the American people.
00:38:09.600
And what you're seeing here at the same time, and we haven't even discussed it yet on the
00:38:13.340
show, I talked about it on Tim Pool last night, the fact that during President Trump's first
00:38:17.500
impeachment, we now know that the FBI was sitting on reports of bribery between the Bidens
00:38:24.800
and Ukraine, specifically the gas company Burisma information that said there exist 17 tapes
00:38:33.380
of then Vice President Biden and his son talking to an official of a Ukrainian gas company at the
00:38:40.520
same time that Trump was being impeached for asking about the very same bribery scheme to who
00:38:47.960
Vladimir Zelensky, which is a geopolitical absolute nightmare when you look at it in terms of U.S.
00:38:53.420
politics. But the fact of the matter is the FBI did not come forward with one iota of that
00:38:59.740
information on. And I remember when we used to do war room impeachment, this was never discussed.
00:39:04.720
These 1023s were never once released to us. It's completely insane. We are now living through
00:39:11.700
something. And Mike, we're coming up on a break, but I'd love to hold you on because this idea that
00:39:18.040
a cabal could just take over our government and indict the sitting president or excuse me, impeach the
00:39:26.120
sitting president over asking about a serious investigation, then go and indict him in order
00:39:32.240
to keep him out of office over the very same conduct that every former president does because
00:39:39.320
of the Presidential Records Act exists through the constitutional Article 2 authority of the powers
00:39:46.240
vested in the executive. This is a question about who has the actual power in this country,
00:39:53.100
our elected president or the unelected suits. Stay tuned. Be right back here. Human events live
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00:41:02.720
Okay, I want to get Mike Davis back on for final words, because I want to make sure that we don't
00:41:07.620
cut off your sign off. And then we're going to go back to Natalie and Ben there on the ground at
00:41:12.220
the courthouse. Mike. And I would just say what we've been talking about since August, Jack,
00:41:16.840
that this is a bogus political indictment of Trump to take out a presidential candidate, regardless
00:41:21.840
of the facts that are in the indictment. The law is very clear that Trump did not commit any crime.
00:41:28.580
The Presidential Records Act controls, not the Espionage Act, not the Espionage Act. Even if
00:41:34.280
the Espionage Act somehow controls here, there is no allegation whatsoever, let alone evidence that
00:41:40.340
Trump intended to harm the United States. And it is not legally possible to obstruct investigations
00:41:46.420
into non-crimes generally, with very few exceptions. Amen. Mike Davis, thank you so much for your
00:41:53.180
yeoman's work. Thank you for all the hours that you've been putting in and all the time that you've
00:41:57.640
given us. You've been incredibly generous. God bless. I want to toss it now back to Ben Burquam,
00:42:02.580
Natalie Winters, who are there on the ground outside of the courthouse. Natalie, let's get
00:42:07.940
you first. What are you seeing? What are you hearing?
00:42:12.740
Sure. Well, I'm still hearing exactly what I heard the last time I joined you. The power,
00:42:17.880
the persistence is still there among the people who are here to show their support for Donald Trump.
00:42:22.580
Frankly, I think the crowd is still growing. Behind me, we've had some MAGA superstars like
00:42:28.340
Carrie Lake. I think some others are set to join us and War Room later to talk about everything that's
00:42:34.300
going on. But people are still screaming and yelling, doing all the things that MAGA knows
00:42:39.260
how to do. Still no real violent clashes. Don't listen with the mainstream media says no signs of
00:42:45.440
domestic extremism, as the Department of Homeland Security would say. But yeah, nothing major to
00:42:52.280
report. I know Alina Haba, one of the President Trump's attorneys, not on this matter particularly,
00:42:58.200
just did sort of a live press conference, live interview amidst a sea of protesters.
00:43:04.160
But people are here waiting. I think they're hoping to see President Trump. I don't know if that
00:43:09.240
will happen, if that will materialize. But people are really rallied up. And I have to say,
00:43:13.740
Jack, I have met quite a few people who have told me to send my best to you. So on behalf of your fans
00:43:19.100
who are here and who are showing up, I wanted to do that.
00:43:22.680
Well, God bless, Natalie. I appreciate that. I appreciate you being out there in this heat.
00:43:27.000
Thank you for being there. Hopefully you can catch a little bit of a chill. We're going to we're
00:43:31.860
going to cut off here and go and get some air conditioning. Go get some maybe some iced coffee,
00:43:37.000
get some Cuban coffee. I love the Cuban coffee down there. Thank you again, Natalie. Switching over,
00:43:40.940
Ben, you've got we've got four minutes left. You've got some folks there. Who are you with?
00:43:48.020
Hey, thanks, Jack. One thing that Natalie just mentioned that you notice here, and I mentioned
00:43:53.260
there's one lady that had a sign that said lock him up referring to President Trump. And she was
00:43:57.800
out in the middle of all of the Trump supporters. And she was protected. She was safe. Now people
00:44:02.900
disagreed with her. They had a conversation. But that's the difference between the right and the left.
00:44:06.820
If you go out to a Trump rally against Trump, you're going to be treated respectfully. If it was
00:44:12.320
the tables were turned and you took out a Trump sign to an Antifa rally, you're going to get beat up.
00:44:17.240
You're going to get attacked. That's the difference. Real quick, folks. Final thoughts. While you're out
00:44:21.640
here, it's hot. We're sweating. You got President Trump, what they're doing. What's your message to
00:44:26.540
America. Okay. America is the last stop for freedom. If we lose this battle, we have nowhere
00:44:33.800
to flee. Right. And we are immigrants and I'm coming from China. And we don't want America
00:44:41.760
to turn to the place where we came from. Right. Thank you, President Trump. Keep fighting
00:44:48.440
for us. God bless you. That's it. Hey, Ben, Ben, they can't hear me, right? They can't
00:44:55.200
hear me. No, they can't hear you. But if you have a message, Jack Posobiec. Yes, sir. Go
00:45:00.240
ahead. All right, Ben, Ben, if you can if you can do this for me. Let's let's see if we
00:45:04.260
can do a little live fun here because you've got it. You've got a Chinese refugee. Say
00:45:08.580
Ziyou. Ziyou. Ziyou. Yeah. Zhongguo. I'm going to screw it up. Kingguo. I'm going to
00:45:18.280
screw it up royally. Ziyou Zhongguo. Kingguo. Zhongguo. Ziyou Zhongguo. Free China. Free China.
00:45:27.980
Yeah. Free China. Yeah. Free China. There you go. There you go, Ben. You did it. You did
00:45:32.720
it, Ben. Amazing. I got it with my terrible translation. Thank you. Yes. Amazing, Ben. You crushed
00:45:38.160
it. Yeah. Free China. There we go. We want all the people in the world to get free. Free
00:45:43.180
free China and save America. That's the message, Jack. Yep. And take down the CCP. We know that
00:45:49.520
one. Take down the CCP. Take down the CCP. Amen. 100%. That's amazing. It's all connected.
00:45:57.080
It's all connected. You've got people from all over the world. You have freedom. The freedom
00:46:01.340
frighters of. Look, the other GOP candidates are nowhere to be found. They're running for the
00:46:06.640
hills, except for one. They're all running for the hills, but the freedom fighters of
00:46:10.500
the world have arrived and have assembled outside of Miami. And it's the people. It's
00:46:16.080
not the high officials. It's not the politicians. The politicians are gone. They've run for the
00:46:20.040
hills. But the freedom fighters, people from China, people from Cuba, people from Haiti
00:46:24.820
who grew up under socialist communist regimes, they're out in force. And if you don't believe
00:46:29.240
for a second that that tells you something that really should stick in your mind, we have to
00:46:34.780
hold this. Ben, thank you again, man. God bless you for being out there in the heat.
00:46:38.160
I was just telling Natalie, go grab a cube of coffee, man. You deserve it.
00:46:43.840
God bless you, brother. Hey, you know what? It's worth it. If we don't stand up now, we
00:46:48.060
lose this country. Little sweat's nothing for the future of our nation, for our children.
00:46:53.220
Amen. Ben Burkman, you guys didn't know that that guy is quite a little. Guys, can I get,
00:46:57.720
as we go out, if, can I get a little USA, USA? USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA,
00:47:16.220
God bless you, Ben. God bless to the freedom fighters who are out there on the street right
00:47:21.920
now, folks. We're going to continue our coverage here live. Real America's news continues. For
00:47:27.740
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00:47:37.160
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00:47:42.120
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00:47:50.540
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