Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 29, 2023


EPISODE 506： WEAPONIZED LAWTISTS STRIKE BACK AT NATIONAL REVIEW


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The Supreme Court strikes down affirmative action in U.S. universities. What does this mean for the future of the program and what does it mean for other parts of the government and at universities? Jack Posobiec and co-host Mike Davis discuss.

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00:02:04.440 Affirmative action has been blocked both for private and public colleges.
00:02:09.760 This is in the UNC case and in the Harvard case.
00:02:12.680 They've said in both cases, college admissions cannot consider race as they try to diversify their student bodies.
00:02:19.800 F*** the suburbs.
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00:02:29.040 Mr. Biden, how involved were you in your Chinese shakedown text message?
00:02:35.200 Were you sitting there?
00:02:36.420 Were you involved?
00:02:37.600 Were you involved?
00:02:38.200 I don't know.
00:02:40.060 Were you?
00:02:40.500 No.
00:02:41.120 That was a warning shot.
00:02:42.720 The press finally hit a nerve and Joe Biden just sent a message.
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00:02:51.700 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome on board.
00:02:55.080 Today's edition of Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:02:57.540 Today is June 29th, 2023.
00:03:00.420 Anno Domini.
00:03:01.400 Wanted to bring on our first guest here, Mike Davis.
00:03:03.980 Now, originally, Mike, we were going to chat about something else.
00:03:06.180 I want to get to that in the next segment.
00:03:07.600 But we just got the news a few moments ago.
00:03:10.280 The strikedown, essentially, of a huge swath of affirmative action in universities.
00:03:16.680 But also, breaking news, the Supreme Court area itself has been evacuated due to a suspicious
00:03:24.780 package coming right on the heels of this new release of the opinion 6-3 strikedown by
00:03:33.700 the Supreme Court.
00:03:34.680 We're going to follow that as it continues.
00:03:36.660 Mike Davis, what does this mean going forward for the program of affirmative action in other
00:03:43.440 parts of the government and at universities?
00:03:45.200 What it means is these elite universities cannot continue their illegal discrimination against
00:03:53.980 poor, more qualified Asian applicants in favor of the elite, well-connected black applicants. 0.98
00:04:01.720 And that has been systematic racial discrimination for too long.
00:04:06.560 And the Supreme Court has finally held that this is unconstitutional under the 14th Amendment
00:04:12.640 to the United States Constitution.
00:04:14.260 So when they consider applicants, they should look at factors like poverty instead of race.
00:04:22.040 Well, so I guess the question going forward is, what will be the enforcement mechanism?
00:04:27.620 Because we know that some of these university administrators, they've been trying to hide
00:04:31.320 this in the past.
00:04:32.080 You saw the University of Michigan years ago.
00:04:33.980 So will there open up a channel for people to be able to sue?
00:04:38.540 Will there be ways for people to actually dig into these programs?
00:04:42.900 Well, that's a very good question, Jack, because Harvard University immediately put out an email
00:04:49.540 that I posted on my Twitter where they're essentially telling the Harvard students, faculty, staff,
00:04:57.000 alumni, wink, wink, nod, nod.
00:04:59.460 We're going to keep discriminating against Asian Americans, poor, less connected, more qualified 1.00
00:05:07.340 Asian Americans in favor of the elite, less qualified black applicants. 0.99
00:05:11.840 And so they're going to continue to do it.
00:05:13.600 The way that you're going to have to enforce this, unfortunately, is plan whack-a-mole.
00:05:17.060 And you're going to have to file lawsuits against these schools under the, you know,
00:05:22.780 Title VII and the 14th Amendment.
00:05:26.140 It's not going to be an easy slog because, as we know, these leftists are so subversive
00:05:30.740 and they'll come up with every trick they can to take care of their elite friends.
00:05:36.840 Well, I think that's right because we have to understand, too, that this, it goes beyond
00:05:41.400 a program that was implemented by the government and other administrators when it came in.
00:05:48.140 And we're coming up on a break here, but I want to hold you over because we need to
00:05:51.480 understand that this is an ideology that has taken root in these organizations.
00:05:57.140 This is an ideology, look, they've all got their diversity czars, they've all got their
00:06:01.560 equity and DEI emplacements, et cetera.
00:06:04.300 If you think that this is just going to go away because of some ruling at the Supreme Court,
00:06:09.260 which I'm sure, by the way, that they all disagree with, then you don't understand what
00:06:15.260 time it is.
00:06:16.200 You don't understand what part of the movie you're in.
00:06:18.120 But that's why we're on today here, Human Events, with Mike Davis to break down for us
00:06:22.920 exactly what's going on right now.
00:06:25.460 Someone who understands exactly what part of the movie we are in, because we are going
00:06:29.920 to have to do the work, ladies and gentlemen.
00:06:31.480 This is not the time for the sunshine soldiers, right?
00:06:36.880 And the summertime patriots.
00:06:38.780 Now, we need to dig in.
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00:06:43.000 Look, this is Valley Forge time.
00:06:46.220 We're winning, but it's going to be a hard fight, and you need everything you've got if
00:06:52.880 you want to take this country back.
00:06:54.580 We're celebrating victory today, and we're going to continue with Mike Davis.
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00:08:10.740 Now, I got a note in from a friend during the break here.
00:08:15.940 He said, you think you've won, but it's just a moral victory.
00:08:19.280 They will find every way to keep pushing the Marxist agenda.
00:08:23.100 Progressive implies always moving.
00:08:25.620 We have to become a progressive conservative.
00:08:28.860 Interesting.
00:08:29.120 Don't stop until these freaks that want to ruin our country are completely out of options.
00:08:35.320 And I think that's right.
00:08:36.460 I think we can't stop, guys.
00:08:38.340 We have to think about this as a never-ending battle to win back our country.
00:08:44.060 Now, Mike Davis, before the break, we had you on and we were asking about this.
00:08:47.860 They're not going to keep pushing this.
00:08:50.800 They're not going to keep fighting it.
00:08:51.840 And let me ask you this question as well.
00:08:54.120 Is there one person that above, look, I understand that getting a Supreme Court nominee across
00:08:58.760 the finish line, which obviously was something that you were the quarterback of multiple times,
00:09:03.640 but all of that flows from the person who's making the nominations that's in the White House.
00:09:09.740 Isn't that right?
00:09:11.260 There is no question that President Trump's biggest and most consequential accomplishment
00:09:16.920 of his first term was his transformation of the 5-4 left of center court to the 5-4 Clarence
00:09:23.380 Thomas court.
00:09:24.540 And conservatives have been talking about making changes to these liberal laws for decades.
00:09:29.680 It was President Trump who actually delivered.
00:09:31.920 Roe versus Wade, affirmative action, case after case after case.
00:09:36.920 This is President Trump's legacy right now for his first term.
00:09:42.700 Well, and I think, too, because you have so many of these people, these naysayers, 1.00
00:09:46.520 who were conservative in name only, right, or rhinos, you know, is another term.
00:09:51.800 But I think conservative in name only is actually better because, and it's funny because I've
00:09:56.180 been locked in horns with these National Review guys over the last three days, apparently,
00:10:03.940 all over this analysis of the Trump indictment, the Presidential Records Act, that normally,
00:10:09.640 and I'll ask you a question about it in a second, but it's the same exact people
00:10:13.400 who were undercutting Trump every step of the way in 15 and 16.
00:10:18.100 If they had had their way, Hillary Clinton would be there today. 1.00
00:10:21.520 She would be there today, and we would have potentially six-three rulings in the other
00:10:27.380 direction.
00:10:28.280 What would that be like?
00:10:29.680 Well, we would lose our God-given rights to speak, to associate, to worship, to protect
00:10:38.120 ourselves.
00:10:38.620 We are not playing with our parents' or grandparents' Democrat Party.
00:10:42.500 These are not liberals who love America.
00:10:44.040 These are leftists who hate America.
00:10:46.600 They are Marxist.
00:10:47.820 And like every Marxist revolution, they play for keeps.
00:10:51.420 They are subversive.
00:10:52.380 And like you said, Jack, they never give up.
00:10:55.200 They keep going.
00:10:56.000 And they will keep going and keep going and keep going.
00:10:58.740 And so what I want to say to conservatives, Republicans, right-thinking Democrats, Trump
00:11:05.920 is going to be our nominee.
00:11:07.520 Alvin Brad guaranteed that.
00:11:09.160 Jack Smith probably guaranteed that Trump is back in the White House.
00:11:13.620 Why do we want to undermine him and make it more difficult for him to get back in the
00:11:18.000 White House?
00:11:18.380 Do we want President Trump or President Biden replacing conservative Supreme Court justices?
00:11:26.100 And that is the easiest question to answer.
00:11:29.180 And for these people who are trying to take down Trump now, they need to understand the
00:11:34.360 primary is already over.
00:11:36.940 Well, look, I've got to ask you, because full disclosure, I'm drafting off of the Mike Davis
00:11:43.320 legal analysis when it comes to the Presidential Records Act, when it comes to everything else
00:11:47.800 that's going on that got me in this fight with Andy McCarthy, of all people.
00:11:52.300 And all I did, by the way, was pull up his old columns from when he was at PJ Media before
00:11:58.560 he was at National Review, not the National Review line, where now it's become this whole
00:12:03.200 human events versus National Review thing, which, of course, is funny, because that's
00:12:07.020 what it's been for, what, 70 years when you think about it.
00:12:09.260 Is he saying that, no, no, no, it was totally fine for Obama to authorize the release of
00:12:17.260 the Stuxnet intel information through General Cartwright, who later, by the way, was charged
00:12:23.020 with perjury in the investigation, but Obama pardoned him.
00:12:26.540 That was totally fine, even though he didn't follow any formal process.
00:12:30.660 And I pointed out that what's very different from the things that you and National Review
00:12:36.080 are saying today, he writes a 5,000-word column responding to me last night in a very strange
00:12:44.020 manner, making all sorts of claims that I didn't make.
00:12:47.300 Then when I point out some of his false claims, he said, well, I'm sorry, I'm on vacation right
00:12:51.660 now.
00:12:51.920 But I wanted to ask you about a salient point in there, because he said that even under the
00:12:57.160 Presidential Records Act, that President Trump doesn't have the authority to take these because
00:13:02.880 he didn't document the collection of these documents.
00:13:06.460 What's going on there?
00:13:08.360 Look, I like these guys at National Review.
00:13:10.980 We were allies on the judicial fight confirming Trump's judicial nominees, including three justices
00:13:17.640 on the Supreme Court.
00:13:18.560 They just don't like Trump, and they are letting their opposition to Trump cloud their legal
00:13:25.340 judgment.
00:13:25.860 The Presidential Records Act is very clear that any document created or received by the
00:13:32.940 president or his White House staff is a presidential record, and it does not matter
00:13:38.340 whether they are classified agency records or not.
00:13:41.540 They're trying to say that classified agency records sent to the president to advise the
00:13:46.300 president or not presidential records, that is just not the law.
00:13:49.080 They are absolutely dead wrong about that part of the law.
00:13:52.620 And under the Presidential Records Act, the president himself gets to decide whether these
00:13:58.220 are personal records that belong to him.
00:14:01.160 And go look at the Clinton sock drawer case when Clinton had eight years of highly classified
00:14:05.360 audio recordings, including conversations with foreign leaders and his national security officials
00:14:11.680 that he took from the White House and he put in his sock drawer.
00:14:14.840 And an Obama judge in 2012 said the mere fact that Obama took those White House tapes that
00:14:21.100 was recorded by the deputy White House chief of staff for operations, took those White House
00:14:25.440 tapes with him when he left, deemed them personal under the Presidential Records Act.
00:14:29.880 He owns them.
00:14:31.040 They're not presidential records.
00:14:32.340 Alternatively, they are presidential records which are owned by the government, but under
00:14:38.080 the Presidential Records Act, the former president can access his presidential records any time
00:14:44.000 he wants.
00:14:44.680 So can his designated representative.
00:14:47.140 At best, this is a bureaucratic dispute, a civil lawsuit with Biden's librarians and other
00:14:54.140 bureaucrats over presidential records. 0.77
00:14:56.280 This is not espionage.
00:14:57.640 Ask these people, Jack, do they want President Trump to die in prison because of an espionage
00:15:04.600 charge, because of Trump's fight with Biden's and other bureaucrats?
00:15:08.140 And the answer they will probably tell you is yes, because they fear that Trump's going
00:15:12.180 to win in 2024.
00:15:14.540 Well, Mike, I think that's exactly right.
00:15:16.520 And I'll just say, you know, without naming names, I've had a lot of people in Washington,
00:15:20.340 D.C. reach out to me and say that's exactly what's going on here.
00:15:23.540 Maybe not specifically with with McCarthy, but some of these guys, it's it's all about
00:15:28.580 keeping Trump from going back into office.
00:15:31.500 It's all about preserving what they view as the integrity of the Department of Justice,
00:15:36.400 the same one people that were pushing all of the hoaxes for all these years.
00:15:40.420 Stay tuned.
00:15:40.900 We're going to come right back with Mike Davis, Article three project here in human events
00:15:45.260 on this stupendous and historic day that affirmative action has been destroyed at the university
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00:16:33.760 Mike Davis, we were chatting about this on the back end there.
00:16:38.880 And this is what I went and pulled the photos.
00:16:41.780 Okay.
00:16:42.300 They were loading those boxes into that truck from the White House on January 14th.
00:16:49.240 We've got it in Newsweek.
00:16:50.540 This was obviously done in public.
00:16:52.400 Let's show the photos, guys.
00:16:53.500 There they are.
00:16:54.020 And so if, you know, it just follows, right?
00:16:56.780 This is a common sense argument.
00:16:58.040 It follows that if they're loading the boxes on the 14th, that the designation would have
00:17:03.040 happened prior to the 14th, the designation of the documents, where they're supposed to
00:17:07.720 go, which documents go where, et cetera, et cetera.
00:17:10.120 And so why do they keep sidestepping this situation where they say, oh, who was president in 2021
00:17:18.040 to now?
00:17:19.320 I said, well, that's not the point.
00:17:20.560 The salient point is who was president when it came down.
00:17:24.160 Also, which I found kind of amusing, also, Andy McCarthy has argued for years that presidents
00:17:31.440 cannot be prosecuted for obstruction while carrying out their constitutional duties, which
00:17:36.920 I just thought was hilarious.
00:17:37.740 Yeah, I mean, Jack, you didn't see the Trump derangement exception to the commander-in-chief
00:17:43.080 clause in the Constitution.
00:17:44.620 Yes, that's right.
00:17:46.480 They snuck it in there.
00:17:48.200 The president can declassify anything he wants for any reason he wants in any manner he wants,
00:17:52.400 except for Trump.
00:17:53.440 You didn't see the Trump derangement exception in the Presidential Records Act, that presidents
00:17:58.120 can take their presidential records when they leave office.
00:18:01.080 And you didn't see the Trump derangement exception in the Espionage Act, that the president
00:18:05.980 can't be charged with espionage unless you're Trump.
00:18:10.140 Right, right, right.
00:18:10.820 So that's exactly it.
00:18:11.960 Because when you look at any of these situations, even when they claim, by the way, the Espionage
00:18:16.320 Act is a great example.
00:18:17.320 So this was one of the other arguments they were making, saying, oh, well, it's the retention
00:18:21.160 of the documents.
00:18:22.120 It doesn't matter if they're classified or not.
00:18:23.700 It's the retention of NDI, the retention of it.
00:18:26.840 Well, OK, these are not originals.
00:18:28.900 These are not original documents that he took from the White House or the government and
00:18:34.540 is squirreling away in his home because the Espionage Act was written during World War
00:18:39.480 One.
00:18:40.300 The systems were a little bit different back then because you actually had things like
00:18:44.500 original documents versus copies.
00:18:46.720 Nowadays, that's not how it works.
00:18:47.980 I can say that this part I know because I can talk about it from my intel hat.
00:18:52.640 Obviously, I can't talk about specific systems.
00:18:54.460 But the idea that the president of the United States is going to be given an original document
00:18:59.500 and not a printout for a briefing and that the government loses their access to the original
00:19:06.280 document, that's just silly.
00:19:07.380 It's obviously sitting on U.S. government held computers.
00:19:10.740 This isn't some document that they were prevented from getting because he had it down at Mar-a-Lago.
00:19:16.120 That's just not the case.
00:19:17.980 And how can you unlawfully retain a record he's allowed to have under the Presidential
00:19:23.420 Records Act?
00:19:24.320 That's the problem with their whole theory.
00:19:26.460 They're trying to say, again, that classified agency records sent to the president to advise
00:19:31.180 him are not presidential records.
00:19:32.660 That is just completely wrong.
00:19:34.960 I promise you that's wrong.
00:19:36.540 There is case law that that's wrong, but they want to ignore that.
00:19:39.040 The agency records that are not subject to the Presidential Records Act are agency records,
00:19:44.140 original agency records that are subject to FOIA, right?
00:19:48.080 The Freedom of Information Act.
00:19:49.300 Classified agency records are exempt from FOIA.
00:19:53.160 And like you said, Jack, these are copies.
00:19:55.320 These are not original.
00:19:56.640 Maybe other than the love letter from the North Korean dictator to Trump, maybe Trump kept his
00:20:02.340 love letter.
00:20:03.200 He said it's personal under the Presidential Records Act and it's mine.
00:20:06.020 I'm keeping Kim Jong, whatever the hell his name is, his love letter. 0.99
00:20:09.460 Great.
00:20:09.860 Whatever.
00:20:10.940 Yeah, there you go.
00:20:11.600 But even then, it would be hard to argue that that's not a personal record.
00:20:16.900 It's a love letter.
00:20:17.680 Of course it's personal.
00:20:18.940 So it's just this argument is BS.
00:20:22.640 And remember, there's no criminal component to the Presidential Records Act.
00:20:26.080 The disputes are resolved through negotiations and civil lawsuits, not illegal home raids and
00:20:34.280 espionage indictments.
00:20:35.460 Look, Mike, you're going to be proud of me because I actually went last night and I was
00:20:41.080 I was digging up the statutes.
00:20:43.300 I was looking at them, not just the Presidential Records Act, but even went into the former
00:20:49.840 Presidents Act, the FPA, which is sort of a follow on to all of this and where it delineates
00:20:56.380 how the records are supposed to be used.
00:20:58.680 And, you know, Mike, here's the thing.
00:21:00.560 These acts, they don't have any timeline on them.
00:21:03.540 There's no it doesn't say anything about he he ceases being the former president seven
00:21:09.920 months after eight months after and then all of it has to be returned.
00:21:13.820 It's just not in there.
00:21:15.020 It's very ambiguous.
00:21:16.080 And it specifically speaks to the idea that obviously presidents and former presidents
00:21:21.380 are busy people.
00:21:22.620 And and you hear President Trump actually referring to this in that interview that he did with
00:21:27.260 Brett Berry said, you know, we didn't have time to go through it yet.
00:21:30.120 And it seemed to me that the language he was using in that interview was very similar
00:21:35.360 to the actual language of the statute itself.
00:21:37.720 And I wondered perhaps if he was that was the legal advice that he was given because they're
00:21:42.140 looking at the statute and saying, yeah, this is Mr. President, this is how it works.
00:21:45.780 And that is how it works.
00:21:46.980 I worked in the Bush 40, 43 White House.
00:21:49.360 I learned the Presidential Records Act inside and out during Kavanaugh's confirmation because
00:21:54.000 he was the White House staff secretary and we had to go through millions of pages of
00:21:57.800 records from the Bush 43 White House and we had to navigate the Presidential Records Act
00:22:02.840 to do it.
00:22:04.120 President Trump is absolutely right as a matter of law.
00:22:07.560 They all know this, right?
00:22:08.760 Why don't they walk down at the Biden Justice Department?
00:22:11.540 Why don't they walk down the hall to the Office of Legal Counsel, OLC, and get an opinion
00:22:16.820 before they had Jay Bratt, this partisan operative, go to this biased judge, magistrate judge,
00:22:22.560 Bruce Reinhardt, to get this unnecessary, unlawful, unprecedented home raid?
00:22:26.800 Why did they not even cite the Presidential Records Act when they did this?
00:22:30.720 Because they know they are wrong.
00:22:33.260 Again, we've been saying this from August, Jack.
00:22:35.800 The whole point of this raid was to get Trump's declassified crossfire hurricane records.
00:22:40.920 He was getting ready to go into a civil lawsuit versus Hillary Clinton on the Russian collusion
00:22:46.040 hoax on crossfire hurricane.
00:22:47.880 He had these declassified records via presidential memo the day before he left office.
00:22:52.200 These are so damning for Obama, Biden, Hillary, the FBI, the AG, the CIA.
00:22:58.000 A lot of people in the federal government would have been destroyed if these records became
00:23:01.580 public in that civil litigation.
00:23:03.640 That's what this raid is all about.
00:23:05.280 Everything else is complete BS.
00:23:07.900 And if they actually cared about our national security and espionage, why do they not care
00:23:12.480 about Biden's five sets of stolen classified records moved several times accessible by their
00:23:18.700 Chinese agent and almost certainly used by Hunter as the bad man for the Bidens to secure
00:23:23.940 millions and millions of dollars, tens of billions of dollars in corrupt Chinese, Ukrainian, 0.99
00:23:30.000 Romanian and other foreign corruption and bribery?
00:23:33.080 Well, that's exactly right.
00:23:34.340 And they ditched that over to an IRS investigation.
00:23:37.160 There's no CIA investigation that's opened.
00:23:39.860 There's no far investigation open.
00:23:41.660 None of it.
00:23:42.080 They're not even they're not looking to the bribery, any public corruption investigation,
00:23:45.380 none, none whatsoever.
00:23:46.340 No national security investigation.
00:23:48.320 But I want to ask you that about that as well, because, you know, I heard as well through
00:23:52.600 my own sources at the time that this was all about crossfire hurricane.
00:23:57.280 And that's something that's now been completely reported.
00:23:59.680 We were certainly one of the first here at human events.
00:24:02.840 Obviously, you were also one of the first on this at War Room and everywhere else at Article
00:24:07.240 Three that you've been putting this out.
00:24:08.820 Those crossfire hurricane documents, though, as far as we know, have not actually been recovered
00:24:16.220 in any of these raids.
00:24:17.520 Do we know that?
00:24:18.460 Do we have any clarity on it?
00:24:20.880 Well, maybe they just grabbed the documents and they didn't put them in the inventory when
00:24:24.400 they grabbed the documents.
00:24:25.400 That could be because remember back, I think it was like August 18th of 2022.
00:24:30.240 Bill Arkin, I think it was at Newsweek, reported a leak from the Biden Justice Department that
00:24:35.700 that was the intent of the raid was to get back the crossfire hurricane documents.
00:24:40.360 Where are they?
00:24:42.540 Right.
00:24:43.080 And so this this becomes an interesting question, because if you notice that that was all the
00:24:48.420 rage when this thing first happened, everybody was talking about it and made it to Newsweek.
00:24:53.060 Then suddenly we start hearing us about nuclear facilities.
00:24:56.180 There's this talk about Iran.
00:24:58.820 Then, of course, the Iran map is essentially mentioned in the in the Jack Smith indictment.
00:25:04.360 It's page one.
00:25:05.400 But if you dig through, CBS is reporting out now that they never recovered any Iran memo.
00:25:10.880 And it is not one of the 31 counts of retention of NDI that he's even being charged with.
00:25:17.300 So this whole thing about the tape and Trump was waving the documents back and forth, it
00:25:21.840 seems like it's becoming more likely that what he was actually holding was a copy of
00:25:26.780 The New Yorker from that week where General Milley had leaked information.
00:25:31.640 And when he's talking about leaking and highly classified and secret, he's just referring to
00:25:37.040 what Milley had done a few days prior, five days prior in the pages of The New Yorker.
00:25:42.120 That's exactly right.
00:25:44.760 Remember, Jack Smith is the Democrat prosecutor that Democrat attorneys general bring in to
00:25:51.280 take out Republican presidential candidates like Jack Smith did for potential Republican
00:25:57.520 presidential candidate, Virginia Governor Bob McDonald.
00:26:00.120 Back in 2012, Jack Smith brought a bogus corruption charge against him, took him out as a presidential
00:26:06.200 candidate.
00:26:06.720 The Supreme Court later in 2000, I think it was 15, ruled unanimously eight to nothing.
00:26:11.780 It would have been nine to nothing.
00:26:13.540 But Justice Scalia died.
00:26:14.740 It must have been 2016.
00:26:16.640 It was eight to nothing that that Jack Smith's legal theory was completely bogus.
00:26:22.040 It is hard to get overturned by the Supreme Court on a criminal conviction.
00:26:25.660 It is nearly impossible to do it unanimously.
00:26:28.920 Jack Smith found the way.
00:26:30.020 But guess what?
00:26:30.900 He doesn't care.
00:26:31.680 Jack Smith is a political scud missile to take out Republican presidential candidates because
00:26:36.840 the damage was already done.
00:26:38.940 Mission accomplished.
00:26:39.720 Who cares if the Supreme Court reverses?
00:26:42.180 Same thing here.
00:26:43.160 Mike Smith.
00:26:44.440 Mike Davis.
00:26:45.160 Excuse me.
00:26:46.220 Jack Smith.
00:26:46.900 Mike Davis.
00:26:47.500 And also, I'm Jack as well.
00:26:48.700 Thank you so much for joining us here.
00:26:50.160 Human events.
00:26:51.240 We're just out of time for this segment.
00:26:52.620 Where can people go to follow you?
00:26:53.780 Get your analysis.
00:26:54.860 I mean, you're everywhere these days, man.
00:26:56.400 I remember when you first started coming on War Room.
00:26:58.860 And now it's like every time I turn around, you're cutting another promo.
00:27:01.080 It's amazing.
00:27:01.660 Congrats.
00:27:02.240 I'm like Chuck Schumer, man.
00:27:03.460 I'm everywhere.
00:27:04.220 So it's article3project.org, article3project.org, at article3project.org, at article3project,
00:27:09.540 on gettertwittertruth, and at M-R-D-D-M-I-A is my personal.
00:27:14.200 And thank you, Jack.
00:27:15.460 The hardest working man in the legal biz.
00:27:18.540 He's out of D.C.
00:27:19.500 He's in Denver right now, but he's got that D.C. stink on him.
00:27:23.340 He knows how this system works.
00:27:25.820 He knows where the crocodiles are, the swamp creatures, because he's done battle with every
00:27:30.820 single one of them.
00:27:32.200 Well, stay tuned because we're switching gears.
00:27:34.260 We go from Washington, D.C. all the way over to Ukraine.
00:27:38.320 And Judge Napolitano joins us next for an update on what was going on with the affair
00:27:43.740 of Prigozhin.
00:27:44.920 I'm buzzing in my ear about the boring people at your office.
00:27:51.000 I'm trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Posobiec.
00:27:55.740 All right, we are back here.
00:27:57.760 Jack Posobiec, I want to remind you guys, go to blackoutcoffee.com.
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00:28:22.860 I got to say, guys, even on some of those nights when you're up late, you're doing battle
00:28:27.940 with the neocon types in Washington, D.C.
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00:28:42.180 I'm very excited to welcome back to the program Judge Andrew Napolitano.
00:28:46.620 Judge, thank you so much for taking time to join us here at Human Events.
00:28:49.840 It's always a pleasure to be on with you, Jack.
00:28:52.440 Thanks for having me on your show.
00:28:54.760 Well, I don't know if you've seen, but the neocons over at Neocon Review, I mean National
00:28:58.860 Review, have been very, very upset with me lately.
00:29:01.160 Just really raining down on human events, so I'm sure that my Ukraine coverage may have
00:29:07.680 part of that.
00:29:09.580 Before you even tell me why they're upset with you, it's a badge of courage and honor that
00:29:15.860 they're upset with you.
00:29:16.880 It doesn't matter why.
00:29:20.280 I think that's exactly right.
00:29:22.040 Well, we've been covering this.
00:29:24.460 We're calling it Le Affaire de Pregosien, right?
00:29:27.300 The Pregosien affair, looking at everything, the ins and outs, the moves of the Wagner
00:29:34.220 group, the situation there.
00:29:35.920 And now, all of a sudden, in the midst of all of this, we just got breaking news right
00:29:41.940 before we went to air today that Mike Pence, the former vice president, now presidential
00:29:46.900 candidate, has arrived in Kiev and is meeting directly with President Zelensky.
00:29:52.820 What do you think about that?
00:29:53.800 I think this is the first time we've had a presidential candidate make a trip to Ukraine
00:29:59.120 like this.
00:30:00.720 I didn't know there were any voters in the Republican primary in Kiev.
00:30:06.000 He should spend his time in New Hampshire, where Donald Trump is beating him by 51% to 5%.
00:30:14.880 I would think that that would be a more efficient use of his time.
00:30:17.540 Look, I understand what these photo ops are worth, and I've known Mike for 30 years since
00:30:24.320 we were in radio together before he was governor of Indiana, before he was a congressman, long
00:30:30.700 before he was vice president.
00:30:31.840 I happen to like him very much.
00:30:33.060 I don't think he's going to be the Republican nominee, and I don't think he's going to be
00:30:36.700 president of the United States.
00:30:38.520 But I understand the value of photo ops.
00:30:40.960 I'm not so sure this will help him in New Hampshire, where he will probably be knocked
00:30:46.480 out of the box by Donald Trump's 51% and Ron DeSantis' 20%.
00:30:52.200 I mean, right now, he's neck and neck with Chris Christie for third place.
00:30:58.520 Well, I think that's right.
00:30:59.780 And you do also have a situation in the primary where there seem to be so many people getting
00:31:05.840 into this, and yet I'm not sure for some of these guys what lane it is that they're looking
00:31:12.500 at that they think they can grasp onto, other than potentially this idea of Trump getting
00:31:18.160 knocked out of the race due to some of these legal battles that he finds himself in.
00:31:23.300 I'm sure that that's what they hope.
00:31:26.360 You know, Governor Christie and I have been friends for 30 years.
00:31:30.240 Donald Trump and I have been friends for 35 years, so I know them both.
00:31:33.840 I know them well.
00:31:35.720 I think Governor Christie, his game plan is based on Donald Trump being disabled from
00:31:44.360 running for office because of a conviction that will cause Republicans to recoil.
00:31:50.880 Now, a conviction on the Mar-a-Lago documents case, you were just discussing this with your
00:31:55.080 previous guest, would not automatically disable him from running.
00:31:59.000 A conviction on the indictment that hasn't come yet, the January 6th indictment, that
00:32:03.700 would disable him from running because the Constitution prohibits anyone holding public
00:32:09.740 office who's been convicted of having anything to do with an insurrection.
00:32:13.580 I happen to think that the First Amendment protects what he said on January 6th, but we'll
00:32:18.720 see what a grand jury and what a jury thinks.
00:32:22.400 But yes, I do believe that all of those Republicans expect him to be wounded by these indictments and
00:32:29.080 what may follow.
00:32:29.880 In the Republican primary, in the polls, the opposite has been the effect.
00:32:35.340 Every time he's indicted or every time there's some evidence against him, whether you believe
00:32:39.820 the evidence or not, it seems to push him up in the Republican polls.
00:32:43.760 Well, I think that does seem to be the situation as well.
00:32:48.600 It's sort of a galvanizing effect.
00:32:50.740 But we'll see.
00:32:51.900 Now, going over to Ukraine, though, obviously, it's an opportunity to try to burnish foreign 0.99
00:32:56.740 policy chops, et cetera.
00:32:58.480 But at the same time, you're not getting that same sense of a call for it.
00:33:04.700 And by the way, this has been RFK Jr. has called out the war in Ukraine, the conduct of it,
00:33:10.560 as well as the, I would say, the motivations for it.
00:33:14.620 John Mearsheimer had a huge piece this week talking about how he, that everyone seems to
00:33:20.640 have these Manichean views on it, where in the West it's now become, you know, it's democracy
00:33:25.760 versus autocracy.
00:33:26.940 And at the same time, you're not hearing very many people actually discuss the prospect of
00:33:33.380 peace on the ground in Ukraine.
00:33:36.620 Do you think that that's something that could also play a role in this?
00:33:42.960 Well, the American government is not in favor of peace on the ground.
00:33:47.200 I am sure that President Zelensky would go to Geneva and meet with President Putin or send
00:33:53.520 their number two or number three persons, their foreign ministers or defense ministers.
00:33:58.380 But Zelensky's American masters, Victoria Zuland, Tony Blinken, Lloyd Austin, Jake Sullivan,
00:34:05.100 and to the extent he knows what's going on, the president himself simply won't allow that.
00:34:10.200 They don't have an off-ramp for this disastrous, unconstitutional, illegal, immoral war that we
00:34:17.700 are fighting there.
00:34:18.620 My column out this morning, depending on where you get it, one title is Bloodshed and Honesty,
00:34:25.840 the other is War and Honesty, talks about how Congress cannot declare war on Russia because
00:34:31.920 Russia does not pose a military threat to the United States.
00:34:35.640 We pose more of a military threat to Russia than they do to us. 0.98
00:34:40.360 So rather than declare war, which they can't do, Congress decides to fund a war.
00:34:45.260 They haven't authorized troops, but Joe Biden and Lloyd Austin and Tony Blinken have sent
00:34:50.760 military equipment there that only Americans can operate.
00:34:54.400 So do we have troops on the ground?
00:34:56.280 Well, like Bill Clinton, it depends on what the meaning of is is.
00:34:59.800 It depends on what the meaning of troops on the ground is.
00:35:03.320 If by troops on the ground, you mean Americans wearing boots and in fatigues and a helmet and
00:35:13.340 carrying offensive weaponry, no.
00:35:16.560 But if by boots on the ground, you mean Americans in civilian clothes who are full-time military
00:35:21.440 operating American military equipment, pulling triggers or pressing buttons in control booths
00:35:27.460 that are sending projectiles to kill Russian Americans, then we do have troops on the ground.
00:35:32.100 And without their uniforms on, which is a violation of the Geneva Conventions,
00:35:36.820 they're fair game.
00:35:38.820 They can be captured as spies and legally executed summarily, that is, without trial,
00:35:45.880 because they're in a war zone shooting at Russian soldiers and they don't have uniforms on.
00:35:52.780 All because Joe Biden wants to run for re-election as a wartime president.
00:35:57.600 When they start to come home in body bags, the American public will begin to pay attention.
00:36:02.320 Right now, the public is not paying attention because the media in America, not you, not
00:36:09.680 me, but most of the mainstream media, is mouthing exactly what MI6 and CIA want them to say,
00:36:17.420 which is that Putin's a monster and we have to protect Zelensky because if Zelensky falls,
00:36:23.060 all of Eastern Europe will fall.
00:36:25.160 And that, of course, is nonsense.
00:36:27.080 There's no basis for that at all.
00:36:28.720 That's the neocon mantra, which they have been spouting for years and years and years. 0.94
00:36:34.120 They're bitter that the Cold War has ended and they want to use Ukraine as a battering ram. 0.97
00:36:41.360 They think somehow they can drive Vladimir Putin from office.
00:36:44.900 They tried last weekend.
00:36:46.500 And when Yevgeny Purgosian knew that he was about to be slaughtered by 10,000 Russian troops
00:36:52.880 by air and ground, he turned around.
00:36:55.080 Judge, we're coming up on a quick break, and I think that's exactly right.
00:37:00.540 I think this was was Purgosian.
00:37:02.540 People say, oh, was it was he in on it?
00:37:04.360 They say, no, no, no.
00:37:05.520 This was a this was part of a thing that Putin was behind.
00:37:08.240 No, I disagree with that.
00:37:09.740 I think this was a real attempt.
00:37:11.520 I think this is about the regime change in Russia.
00:37:14.240 I think that's exactly what they are trying to push their judge.
00:37:18.420 Andrew Napolitano, thank you so much for joining us here.
00:37:21.360 Human events.
00:37:22.020 Where can people go to follow you?
00:37:23.080 Well, they can watch my YouTube, which is Judging Freedom at YouTube.
00:37:29.880 We're about four million, four million views a week.
00:37:33.620 And they can catch my columns at JudgeNap.com.
00:37:36.800 JudgeNap.com or Judging Freedom on YouTube.
00:37:40.480 Thank you, Jack.
00:37:42.020 God bless, Judge.
00:37:42.700 Thank you for your time.
00:37:43.240 When I grew up in the hood, I rolled with bloods and them boys had a saying. 1.00
00:37:50.820 You can't be listening to all that slappy whack trimatozolitzabam ship, nippy bam bam, like human events with Jack Posobiec.
00:37:58.240 All right, folks.
00:38:01.920 Now, we played at the beginning of the show today, Mel Gibson and his urging of Americans and everyone to go and see the sound of freedom.
00:38:14.920 This movie that we're partnering with, Angel Studios, go to angel.com slash human events.
00:38:20.480 Get your tickets now.
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00:38:28.520 Buy tickets for people that might not otherwise see it.
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00:38:54.240 No.
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00:39:02.660 I watched that video, that whole movie.
00:39:06.080 I sat there with Caviezel, with Ballard, with Eduardo, and with my wife, Tanya Tay.
00:39:13.200 And we watched every second of it, and it was so bad I was holding my rosary throughout the film itself.
00:39:19.720 And we had a story.
00:39:20.880 And then they come out, by the way.
00:39:21.860 So here's the thing.
00:39:22.680 So then Caviezel comes out and says, one of the reasons that they push conflict, one of the reasons that they do this is for organ harvesting, and it's something they're doing in Ukraine.
00:39:30.120 And the whole media goes nuts.
00:39:33.600 They say this is crazy.
00:39:34.840 This is QAnon.
00:39:35.900 This is insanity.
00:39:37.020 Caviezel's, you know, he's on one again.
00:39:39.080 We'll look at the story that we reported here at humanevents.com yesterday.
00:39:43.220 A charity worker has been detained in Ukraine after he was caught trying to buy an 11-month-old baby from his mother and sell the child abroad.
00:39:53.840 The 43-year-old man was detained after allegedly giving a $1,000 down payment to the boy's mother, claiming that he would ensure a family in Europe would adopt him away to live away from the war in Ukraine.
00:40:08.360 The woman, you know, she was offered $5,000 for the charge, said it was an adoption fee.
00:40:15.260 He said, I'm going to give you $1,000 cash, U.S. dollars in cash.
00:40:19.780 So then they turn around.
00:40:23.500 He takes the kid, this little boy, this little blonde-haired baby boy that, and I saw the photos, and we dug into, this is from, this is a release from the National Police of Ukraine.
00:40:37.580 And I got to say, he looks just like my little two-year-old.
00:40:43.260 He looks exactly like little AJ.
00:40:46.700 And this is what the human traffickers do.
00:40:50.340 They target women that are in crisis situations.
00:40:54.600 They target these families.
00:40:56.320 They wave money in your face.
00:40:58.260 I've been to those trains.
00:40:59.340 I've been to those train stations, all right, coming out of Odessa, seeing the family, seeing the kids.
00:41:05.500 You get off the train, you get a bunch of kiosks, you get a bunch of taxis, charity workers, you don't know what's going on.
00:41:13.980 You have no idea where you're going to sleep under your head.
00:41:16.280 You don't know where you're going to get your next meal.
00:41:21.580 And you have no clue what's going to happen to your kid.
00:41:24.520 You might not have any money.
00:41:25.640 And by the way, dad is stuck back home, is stuck fighting.
00:41:29.700 He's getting sent to the front lines in the latest mobilization because of the martial law.
00:41:33.020 And then along comes a guy with $1,000 in U.S. dollars, greenbacks, saying, hey, I'm here to help.
00:41:41.600 We're going to take all your problems away.
00:41:43.340 Your child will have a better life.
00:41:47.660 And it said in that article, it said in that article that the reason they were targeting this guy,
00:41:54.600 and there was a female accomplice that he had.
00:41:56.420 We don't know if it was a wife, girlfriend, sister, etc.
00:41:58.300 The boy was rescued, but the man is suspected to have sold three other children under the same pretext.
00:42:08.220 They were looking for parents who are ready to sell their children for organs.
00:42:12.920 Law enforcement officers, you have to go to humanevents.com and see this story.
00:42:16.860 Law enforcement officers have operational information that this was not for adoption to the EU,
00:42:21.840 that the child would have been sold on to illegal organ transplanters.
00:42:28.300 The organizations have seen teams and couples working together to lure Ukrainian refugees traveling to the border,
00:42:35.000 the border in Poland, into their cars.
00:42:37.300 They're waiting.
00:42:38.400 They're seeing the women.
00:42:39.380 They're seeing the mothers.
00:42:40.180 They're distressed.
00:42:41.000 They're exhausted.
00:42:42.720 These are the same types of tactics.
00:42:45.340 And do you understand, Interpol, by the way, has had tons of reports on this.
00:42:51.980 Organized criminal groups are known to be trafficking in human beings for organ removal.
00:42:56.940 A wide spectrum of actors involved in organ trafficking in North and West Africa, in many countries, notably in Asia and the Middle East.
00:43:06.020 Trafficking in human organs is done through a framework of complex networks due to the medical skills required,
00:43:12.800 the logistics, health care facilities, the vulnerable communities.
00:43:16.580 They specifically talk about, they specifically talk about this as targeting the Black Sea region.
00:43:23.800 This was even before the war.
00:43:26.140 Trafficking in humans for organ removal is not a new phenomenon.
00:43:29.740 It is underreported due to the clandestine nature of the crime combined with the lack of awareness by law enforcement agencies
00:43:35.500 and the deficiency of information sharing channels between the medical and police sectors.
00:43:40.160 That's straight from Interpol.
00:43:42.100 That is straight from Interpol saying that this has been going on around the world.
00:43:49.000 Trafficking in organs.
00:43:50.460 Trafficking in children.
00:43:52.900 And you mean to tell me for a second that you got Mike Pence over there saying we got to continue the war.
00:44:00.300 We got to keep going.
00:44:02.460 You got Joe Biden over there saying we got to keep going.
00:44:05.340 We have to fight no matter what.
00:44:06.880 But when this is what's happening on the back end, look, I'm not saying that Mike Pence is complicit in this.
00:44:13.140 Let me tell you something right now.
00:44:15.400 These are some of the most disgusting and sick, depraved, evil demons that walk the face of the earth.
00:44:25.180 And if you believe for a second that anyone could do something like that to a child like this
00:44:29.320 and is not being influenced or completely controlled by demonic activity,
00:44:34.340 then you have no idea what's going on.
00:44:36.880 Everything in Sound of Freedom is real.
00:44:41.960 Everything that Caviezel said is real.
00:44:45.280 These monsters are out there.
00:44:49.240 And we know what will happen to them in the end.
00:44:52.020 But the real question is how much hate, how much evil that they can spread
00:44:58.700 and how many children they get sucked up into their evil web.
00:45:04.640 And I can't be quiet about it anymore.
00:45:06.180 I'm not going to be quiet about it anymore.
00:45:07.980 I'm done.
00:45:08.860 I'm done being quiet.
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