Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 585： THE GULAGS HAVE ARRIVED - DOUGLASS MACKEY SENTENCED TO SEVEN MONTHS FOR MEMES

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00:00:39.220 A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:45.580 This is human events with your host, Jack Posobiec. Deliver us from the pride that Israel takes in the 0.94

00:00:51.500 ability to defend itself by itself. But as we want to make very clear, you don't have to do that

00:00:58.600 because we're here. Aid under President Joe Biden may have gone to benefit Hamas. $1 billion under

00:01:04.860 President Biden has gone to a group called the United Nations Relief. Now, the former President

00:01:09.540 Trump cut off the funding in 2018, citing flaws in the agency because of links to Hamas.

00:01:15.440 The attack on Israel should have never happened and it wouldn't have happened if they had a different 0.99

00:01:20.960 president. You're looking at live pictures of Beirut, Lebanon right now. Protests erupting into

00:01:26.840 violence a short while ago. What began as a protest in front of the U.S. Embassy by Lebanese people last

00:01:34.240 night became very violent over the course of the evening. No refugees in Jordan, no refugees in Egypt.

00:01:41.300 Israeli forces are on the Gaza border preparing for a major ground operation into Gaza and Iran is

00:01:47.420 making more threats. Warning Israel to call it off or face retaliation that it says no one in the world 0.55

00:01:53.520 will be able to stop. Israel does not target places like hospitals. They're not a target for us and we

00:01:59.100 wouldn't have deliberately hit a hospital. A mass casualty event that could change the international

00:02:05.520 opinion of what Israel is doing right now. Hamas are the new Nazis. The world has to stand united 0.71

00:02:14.120 behind Israel to defeat Hamas. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily

00:02:24.560 live from Washington, D.C. Jack Posobiec. Today is October 18th, 2023. Anno Domini. I want to play a clip

00:02:36.760 right now for everybody. Hillary Clinton from a few days ago. Let's play that, guys.

00:02:43.160 Okay. And sadly, so many of those extremists, those mega extremists, take their marching orders from

00:02:51.040 Donald Trump, who has no credibility left by any measure. He's only in it for himself. He's now

00:02:59.340 defending himself in civil actions and criminal actions. And when do they break with him? You

00:03:04.940 know, because at some point, you know, maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult

00:03:10.940 members, but something needs to happen. Hillary Clinton called for a formal deprogramming of 0.56

00:03:18.840 Trump supporters calling us cult members. Well, what happened today out of New York City? Federal

00:03:28.940 judge just sentenced Douglas Mackey to seven months in prison after being found guilty of election

00:03:37.920 interference for making memes disparaging Hillary Clinton. His name is Douglas Mackey. Everyone needs

00:03:48.560 to go to memedefensefund.com right now to support Douglas Mackey. Because it's not just about Doug.

00:03:58.360 It's about all of us. And they know it. That's the point. This is about having the right to meme,

00:04:08.420 having the freedom to meme. Doug represents the 16ers, the people that helped give the United States 0.64

00:04:16.420 its last real taste of freedom. Do you remember that taste? Before the bombs started dropping? Before

00:04:26.120 the war drums started beating? It wasn't about election interference. No matter what the media

00:04:33.180 reports or fails to report on, this was about showing the radical left how ridiculous their worldview 0.95

00:04:40.360 actually is. And of course, Trump is gagged in his case over January 6th. So Trump being gagged by another

00:04:51.980 federal judge, that's not election interference. But Doug Mackey, a meme maker, gets sent to jail for elect for

00:05:01.720 making memes. And that's election interference. The country you grew up in no longer exists. The gulags are

00:05:11.580 here now. This isn't just about throwing Doug in jail. This is about shutting up everyone that would

00:05:21.340 potentially speak out against the corrupt regime under which we live in, to silence you, to make you

00:05:29.320 terrified about what you post online, to make you scared to speak your voice. Well, guess what?

00:05:36.220 Guess what, regime? I'm still here. Poso is still standing. All of us are still standing. And you know

00:05:41.640 what? We're not going to stop. We're not going to stop throwing up pictures of Doug or Ricky Vaughn,

00:05:47.720 his account from 2016. We're not going to stop posting memes. We're not going to stop speaking truth to

00:05:53.140 power. This will be appealed. We're going to go to memedefensefund.com. And when Donald J. Trump,

00:05:59.060 takes the oath of office on January 20th, 2035 at high noon, he will pardon Doug Mackey on day one.

00:06:07.580 You can take that to the bank. He's coming back. Doug's getting pardoned. All the J6ers are being 1.00

00:06:12.960 pardoned. And all of you are going to be the ones facing jail sentences. Just wait. We're coming.

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00:07:45.700 promo code POSO. Look, folks, this situation that we're facing right now, and I want to be very clear,

00:07:54.800 we understand that we're going into World War III right now. May have already begun. Biden's over

00:08:00.700 there falling asleep at these summits, the summits, some of which are being canceled because events are

00:08:05.520 spinning out of control because of the Biden regime. But all the same while, the legacy media,

00:08:12.760 the dinosaur media, the mainstream media will tell you that you must be very, very concerned

00:08:18.820 with the events that are going on thousands of miles away. And we have to fight. We have to fight

00:08:24.040 all of these people at the same time. Why? To stand up for democracy. To stand up for democracy.

00:08:31.580 Isn't that what we're always told? To stand up for democracy. Well, guess what?

00:08:38.560 The United States government just threw a man in jail for posting memes. Gavin Wax of the New York

00:08:45.580 Young Republicans joins us. Gavin, I know now this actually took place in New York. I know you were

00:08:51.400 following the case. Gavin, what's your analysis? What's going on? How do we get to this point?

00:08:56.960 Well, thank you for having me, Jack. And I like how you opened, kind of tying it to the geopolitical

00:09:02.480 framework of the world at large. You know, the United States once used to stand up and say,

00:09:06.560 you know, we have the moral high ground. We have, you know, this, this, we're, we're projecting this

00:09:11.200 worldview onto the world stage of democracy, of human rights, of all these really nice sounding words,

00:09:18.020 terms, and phrases. But, you know, it just appears to be every day we're losing all those supposed,

00:09:24.440 you know, deeply held values here at home. And now we are seeing an American citizen being sentenced

00:09:30.260 to, I believe, seven months in jail for creating memes during the 2016 presidential election mocking

00:09:37.280 Hillary Clinton. This is a type of sentence. This is the type of, you know, crime. It's shocking that

00:09:42.700 it's even a crime. But these are the types of things that you would expect from these third world 1.00

00:09:47.560 dictatorships that the United States is, or certain segments of the United States government is always

00:09:52.600 calling to invade, to advance democracy and whatever else they're pushing these days. So it's really

00:09:58.260 sad state of affairs for our country that we've hit such a low point that our justice system can't

00:10:03.980 really be called a justice system anymore. It certainly can't be called a justice system for

00:10:08.180 everyone. There's certainly multiple different tiers. I know before the show, I said two, you said

00:10:13.120 three, you know, one for the elites, one for the conservatives, and one for the everyman. You know,

00:10:17.300 I would argue that in a few more years, if we continue on this trajectory, there will be two,

00:10:21.760 there will be two sets of justice for the elites and everyone else. They won't even,

00:10:25.840 you know, separate the everyday people from conservatives. If you're not in the club,

00:10:29.500 you will be treated by a different set of standards. So I think this is ridiculous. It also just goes to 0.98

00:10:33.840 show the amount of legislation and rules and, and, and, and, and things on the books at the federal level.

00:10:40.800 I mean, you could find any obscure statute that was passed by Congress, these vague obscure statutes

00:10:46.860 that are poorly written that any activist judge or activist prosecutor could take advantage of to

00:10:52.400 throw you in, into jail. I mean, we need wholesale reform at the federal level, reviewing all these

00:10:57.220 statutes, putting in sunset clause provisions, making sure that a lot of these things that could

00:11:02.080 be abused and used are tossed out. And, uh, I hope, uh, that we will be seeing, or, and I,

00:11:07.280 and I expect to see a Republican president, uh, you know, in 2024. Uh, and if we do that,

00:11:12.300 and if we take back Congress, we need to remove and amend and, you know, uh, change all of these

00:11:18.280 laws that have been abused, uh, by these activists, left-wing prosecutors, just like in this case,

00:11:23.640 and make sure that none of these statutes stay on the books.

00:11:28.020 You know, uh, man, it goes without saying, uh, pardon day one, when Donald J. Trump returns to

00:11:33.160 office for Doug Mackey until then folks can go to memedefensefund.com support Doug memedefensefund.com

00:11:40.340 support the right to meme. And I want to be clear that, uh, so what we're getting in terms of

00:11:45.020 details, it is seven months, his case. So his sentence was stayed, which means he will have

00:11:51.840 to appeal his center, excuse me. He will have to serve his sentence while trying to appeal the case.

00:11:58.100 That means he's got to go in. The judge decided that today, uh, this is extreme, very egregious.

00:12:04.420 Nothing like this has ever been done in the entire history of our Republic. Again, sending someone

00:12:08.940 essentially for a political cartoon, a political, the modern political cartoon is a meme. And a man

00:12:15.880 has just been sentenced to seven months in jail for making the equivalent of a modern political

00:12:21.860 cartoon. And so, uh, we're told that his current sentence date is 18 January, and that could be

00:12:30.360 potentially pushed back. If, uh, again, based on some of the appeals that could go forward, Gavin,

00:12:36.080 why is it so important? Why is it that what they've done is to, to essentially illegalize or criminalize

00:12:45.240 the act of making a modern political cartoon? Why, why is this, why does this matter?

00:12:49.840 Well, listen, the, the art of the meme is, is a huge part of, uh, the modern, uh, political

00:12:56.260 landscape. I mean, memes can make or break a campaign. They can make or break a candidate.

00:13:01.100 Uh, they can really change the entire political and electoral landscape. They are a very powerful

00:13:06.240 tool, a powerful medium, uh, in the modern digital age of political warfare. And obviously the left

00:13:12.120 recognizes that the left has always been caught on the back foot. They've always been a few steps

00:13:16.440 behind the right in their, uh, you know, methods. The left can't mean the left can't mean people in

00:13:23.240 jail who can exactly, you know, there's actually, there's actually down to it. No, I was just going

00:13:29.960 to say, there's a, there's a longer explanation, but the left can't mean because they are memes.

00:13:33.860 Uh, a meme is a, a meme is a humorous observation on reality. Whereas leftism is a long form denial

00:13:42.180 of reality. Correct. I mean, it's very philosophical when you break it down beyond all the funny memes

00:13:49.460 that we can discuss and laugh at, but it is really a substantive issue here. And I think, you know,

00:13:54.540 campaigns and candidates and political movements that understand that the new, and I like how you

00:13:59.040 phrased it, the new political cartoons of the era, the memes of the era, uh, can really make or break

00:14:04.640 things. I think the left is beginning to understand it. I think they realized they can't really compete

00:14:08.300 on this front properly. They're always going to be, uh, you know, caught in the back foot when it comes

00:14:13.000 to it. So they figured, all right, well, let's just, let's just, uh, you know, imprison, uh, and, and

00:14:17.600 criminally prosecute some prominent meme masters. What effect does this have? This isn't just about Doug

00:14:22.620 Mackey though. What effect does this have on everybody out there? It's, it's not just about the 2016

00:14:27.260 election, uh, possibly the greatest election of all time, but it's also about the 2024 election,

00:14:32.720 isn't it? Correct. I mean, they want to scare anyone, uh, who would be engaged in similar types

00:14:39.580 of meme, uh, meme making. They want to scare anyone, uh, from even, you know, hiding behind an anonymous

00:14:44.800 account, anyone who, who uses the internet's, you know, rights of anonymity to advance a political

00:14:50.400 agenda. You know, this is a big part of what makes Twitter great or excuse me, X grade. And what makes

00:14:55.440 the internet great is that, you know, you can still advance your political ideals and not risk,

00:15:00.160 you know, being doxxed or canceled or losing your job and livelihood, which we know the left is a

00:15:04.500 very apt to do, especially against conservatives and Trump supporters. And now they've taken it a

00:15:09.280 step further. Correct. Correct. He's, he's, he's gotten it from all fronts, but now they're trying

00:15:16.660 to set a new standard that not only will you be canceled, not only will you be doxxed, not only will

00:15:20.680 come after you, uh, but we're also now going to criminally prosecute you for engaging in wrong

00:15:26.140 think and for producing wrong think memes that, that challenge people's perceptions and views

00:15:31.460 on reality, challenge people's perceptions and views on the political landscape, on the state of

00:15:36.300 the country and all the rest. And they're doing this in the lead up to 2024 because they want to

00:15:39.960 prevent, you know, effective individuals like Doug from making memes from, from engaging in the

00:15:45.880 political discourse online and from shifting and from shifting the narrative and shifting the Overton

00:15:50.380 window, all of which happened in 2016, as you mentioned, and will happen again in 2024, if we're

00:15:55.940 allowed to do so in the, uh, in the town square and in the, in the public town square, which is the

00:16:00.620 internet, which is X, which is whatever other app you may be using. So we're heading into very scary

00:16:05.880 times. I mean, this is just one incident of many, many, where we're seeing, you know, the justice system

00:16:11.520 just be, you know, completely turned inside out, all these institutions weaponized against American

00:16:17.080 citizens. They're doing it to the J sixers. Now they're doing it to memers. They're doing it to a 1.00

00:16:21.180 whole wide range of anyone who's anti-regime, anti-establishment. And it's really the, the

00:16:26.720 telltale sign of, of a declining empire of a declining American state, uh, that we're really in a very dark

00:16:33.220 time in our country's history where the political discourse, where the political dichotomy is so stark,

00:16:37.840 which is so polarized. It's only going to get worse. And the left is playing for keeps. I give

00:16:42.120 them credit. They're playing, they're playing this, like it's a blood sport. And you have Republicans,

00:16:45.660 like you mentioned in the opening, Republicans are the party of the dumb and they're playing, 1.00

00:16:49.100 you know, for pats on the head. They're playing, uh, for really stupid reasons. They're not, 1.00

00:16:53.000 they're certainly not playing to win. They're certainly not playing to beat back the left.

00:16:56.480 And the longer this sort of dynamic continues, the more incidents like this latest sentencing,

00:17:01.940 uh, are going to continue to happen. We're going to see more sentences like that. This is just the

00:17:05.720 first step. They're testing the waters. They're seeing if they could get away with it. They're

00:17:09.240 seeing how the public's reaction is going to be. And they're seeing, okay, well, next time it won't

00:17:13.260 be seven months. Next time it'll be a year. And then thereafter two years and three years and so

00:17:17.120 on and so forth until it becomes, uh, such a, uh, such a dark period, such a, you know, it's such an

00:17:22.800 ominous position to be in that you're, you're too scared to even engage in this sort of political

00:17:27.520 memory, if that's even a word. Uh, but you know, uh, this is just the beginning of a long

00:17:32.700 trend of, um, I see likewise sentences. First, they came for the memers, you know, 0.97

00:17:40.900 there's a direct, uh, correlation between this and the Trump prosecution, because in fact,

00:17:48.060 the charge that they hit, um, Doug Mackey with is the same one that some J sixers face is the same 1.00

00:17:53.800 one that Donald Trump faced in the Jan six hearing, uh, excuse me, Jan six prosecution regarding

00:17:58.240 conspiracy against rights. And so they hit them with this charge, conspiracy against

00:18:03.020 totally bogus, totally insane. But on the books, what it is, they claimed it was a conspiracy to

00:18:09.220 deprive the rights of others by allowing them to vote in the election. This is the same charge 0.97

00:18:14.080 they've hit president Trump with. This actually is a test case to set up and set the precedent

00:18:19.400 for president Trump going forward. As well, as you say, Gavin, potentially anyone else that they want

00:18:26.540 to, to go after this, Oh, you posted a meme. I don't like, well, guess what? Make a better meme.

00:18:31.600 No, they're not going to make a better meme anymore. They're going to throw you in jail.

00:18:36.040 Do you get it yet? Are you paying attention yet?

00:18:41.700 Influencers. These are influencers and, uh, they're friends of mine. Jack.

00:18:47.320 So like, where's Jack? He's got a great job.

00:18:51.480 The left can't meme. So they're throwing people in jail who can. We're back human events daily.

00:19:00.820 Jack Posobiec. Uh, look folks, if you think I'm fired up today, it's true that I am fired up. And

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00:19:53.200 we look at the situation, when we look at the understanding of what our country has turned

00:19:57.780 into, I can't get past this, this notion that we are told that we have to send our troops.

00:20:03.760 We've got what as many as 20,000 troops right now in harm's way, uh, in the middle East,

00:20:09.880 two aircraft carriers, which two, two carriers alone, uh, that's 5,000 souls a piece, which

00:20:18.160 I've been saying all week, those things are sitting ducks. And then who comes out and says

00:20:22.060 the exact same. We're going to talk about this earlier, but I decided to throw the whole show

00:20:25.520 out the window because of what happened with Doug, but Vladimir Putin came out and as well

00:20:30.500 pointed out the very thing that I've been saying here, since the first carrier was sent that those

00:20:36.360 carriers are indeed within range of the MiG 31s and their Kinjal hypersonic missiles, uh, the ability

00:20:43.400 to, uh, speed to their targets at Mach nine over a thousand kilometers. Um, do we even seem to have

00:20:51.580 any notion of what's going on? Meanwhile, we're told all of this is in furtherance of democracy.

00:20:56.900 When our democracy is throwing people in jail for political cartoons here in the United States,

00:21:05.260 Gavin zoom out for a minute. Why is all this happening now? How is it connected?

00:21:12.200 This is all the hubris of the American empire and the American elites that run it. I can't even say

00:21:17.200 American elites, the globalist elites, uh, who run it. You know, we, we were once, uh, you know,

00:21:22.320 Pax Americana sort of this American empire based on, you know, our constitution or bill of rights

00:21:28.100 and all of these, you know, preconceived notions about what makes our country great. But we've

00:21:32.640 basically given up the pretense of even upholding those same, uh, principles of same rights here at

00:21:38.320 home. But we want to use the rhetoric. We want to use the PR. We want to use the marketing, uh, to

00:21:43.620 continue to project it abroad, uh, at the end of a gun. And, uh, the world is constantly, uh,

00:21:49.460 beginning to realize that we are, you know, Joe Biden is an emperor with no clothes, essentially

00:21:54.880 that, you know, we've hollowed out our country, uh, economically, spiritually, and otherwise,

00:22:00.000 uh, we don't have the moral high ground. We don't have this moral superiority. We're in no position

00:22:05.100 to dictate, uh, to anyone, uh, about human rights, whatever other concept we, uh, do your, uh, and

00:22:12.380 we've put ourselves in a position where we have now become overstretched militarily, uh, and

00:22:17.420 economically. And, uh, it's being taken advantage of, of our enemies and some really bad actors

00:22:23.380 across the world. And the world has never been, uh, closer, uh, to world war three. Uh, we have,

00:22:29.120 uh, rarely in the past few decades ever been less safe. Uh, terrorism is on the rise. Conflict is

00:22:35.400 on the rise, multiple regional wars. Uh, you know, this is the whole world is on fire right now. And

00:22:40.920 this is largely due not only to the Biden administration, but more broadly, uh, this sort of

00:22:46.040 globalist elite, their contempt, uh, for the everyday people, whether it's in their countries

00:22:50.580 in Europe or in the United States and, uh, their utter hubris. And they think that they can continue

00:22:54.860 to dictate the terms that they can continue to maintain a unipolar world order when it's becoming

00:23:00.720 increasingly clear that we are no longer in a unipolar world order. And we haven't been for some

00:23:05.080 time. We were in a multipolar world order. And if we want to navigate that, we have to operate

00:23:09.620 under that assumption. We have to operate under that as a, uh, as a basis of fact. And, uh,

00:23:15.260 and the sooner we do that, and the sooner we can navigate that the better off the world is going

00:23:19.640 to be. And I think the only person, uh, running for president right now who understands the dynamics

00:23:24.960 on the world stage, who understands, uh, how to achieve peace, how to put the United States in a

00:23:30.600 position of peace and strength, uh, both at home and abroad is president Donald J. Trump. And, uh,

00:23:36.480 we did not see this insanity unfolding under his first term. We didn't see this violence,

00:23:41.220 this chaos. These were all the things they warned us about back in 2015, 2016. Uh, when Doug was

00:23:47.300 making memes, they said that the world would be brought to the verge of nuclear war. That didn't

00:23:50.920 happen. Instead, we saw, you know, record-breaking, uh, you know, advancement to, to point out this,

00:23:57.420 by the way. Uh, so we know, and people remember the meme that Doug was sent to jail for was this

00:24:02.560 thing about text your vote, um, for Hillary voters, but that's not the only meme that Doug, AKA Ricky

00:24:09.220 Yvonne at the time, uh, posted. There was another meme campaign that Doug and, uh, the, the merry

00:24:16.880 band of 16ers were posting around that very same era. And this was hashtag draft your daughters.

00:24:23.680 Gavin, do you remember hashtag draft your daughters? Can you explain that?

00:24:27.060 I do. I do. I remember it very well.

00:24:31.260 And so this, this, uh, campaign was based on Hillary's notion that she was extremely pro 0.92

00:24:37.640 war. And what it was, was essentially an anti-war meme campaign to make it look as though Hillary

00:24:44.120 Clinton was calling for. So it played into the meme of, uh, feminism, which of course she was 1.00

00:24:49.300 pushing Stan with her. I'm with her. And also the meme of pro war at the same time saying, yeah,

00:24:55.780 you know, she fought, she fought for her space in the, in the, in the office. Now she can fight in 0.94

00:25:00.720 Syria. Now she could fight on the battlefield. Um, there, I mean, there were a ton of these,

00:25:04.800 but essentially Doug Mackey was somebody who warned us that the world would be at war if

00:25:11.000 Democrats got in power. Isn't that right? Yeah, absolutely. And listen, I don't think

00:25:16.400 we're very far off from that meme from way back when, way back when in 2015, 2016, you know,

00:25:21.500 listen, I think if we're going to try to fight a war on multiple fronts, whether it's China,

00:25:26.640 Taiwan, whether it's Russia, Ukraine, whether it's Iran, whether it's Hezbollah, Hamas, you know,

00:25:31.400 you name it. I mean, there's, there's even potential conflicts in the Balkans. There's

00:25:34.700 already a conflict in the caucuses that you have been drawing attention to the plight of

00:25:38.620 the Armenian Christians. You know, we're talking about the entire world being at war. There's 0.99

00:25:42.040 conflicts in West Africa. Uh, if we really want to, you know, uh, you know, be involved in all of

00:25:47.640 these, and we really want to fight a multi-front war and, uh, engage in the sort of empire building

00:25:52.420 that, you know, the neoconservatives tried to do for the last 20, 30 years. Well, you know,

00:25:57.040 we're running into a point where we're not going to have the manpower to do it. I mean,

00:25:59.800 you see recruitment is at record lows. The, the, the, the core, uh, you know, American demographic

00:26:05.700 that really supports these conflicts in terms of their sons and daughters signing up to join

00:26:10.460 the armed forces. You're talking about conservative Christian families in the South and the Midwest.

00:26:15.040 They're not signing up like they used to these generational American military families are now 0.96

00:26:19.760 walking away, uh, from the, from, from the American armed forces. They're walking away from these

00:26:24.100 institutions that they once, uh, cherish, they once supported, uh, and they once fought for because

00:26:29.340 they realized that these institutions no longer stand up for them, that no longer represent their

00:26:33.280 interests. And even further, they actually go out of their way, uh, to go against their interests in

00:26:38.060 terms of them pushing this, you know, woke ideology, this sort of America last agenda, you name it.

00:26:43.360 They're really going against, uh, the very people that they need to sign up to fight these wars.

00:26:48.240 So we're actually in a very, uh, you know, very precarious state militarily. And, you know,

00:26:52.840 we've depleted our munitions and our military, uh, stockpiles for Ukraine. And now we're sending

00:26:58.420 stuff over to Israel. I mean, we have just emptied out our military reserves, both in terms of, uh,

00:27:04.420 dollars and in terms of actual bullets. And also now we're stretched thin in terms of the actual

00:27:09.180 manpower. So I don't even know if the United States is prepared for the types of conflicts

00:27:13.640 that may lie ahead. And honestly, if we look to history, we look to history with, with, sorry.

00:27:17.940 Yes. No, no. So, so, so connected to me, connected to me, just a couple of minutes left.

00:27:23.460 How is it that, and, and let me know, are there any other candidates that you see out there on the

00:27:28.840 field that are poised to deal with all of these threats that are arrayed before us? Uh, or is there

00:27:35.560 one that stands out in your mind? Listen, there's no one else in the field on either side, whether

00:27:41.280 it's the Republican side or the Democrat side that understands how to achieve peace, peace through

00:27:46.040 strength, understands how to put the United States in a position of strength militarily, to broadcast

00:27:51.800 that strength in a very tactful way, and to let our enemies know that we are not to be messed with,

00:27:56.600 but that our ultimate goal is peace, not interventionism. And the only person who has a record of that,

00:28:01.320 the only person who has continued to maintain a rhetoric, uh, supporting those positions has been

00:28:05.600 President Donald J. Trump. He was the president of peace. His foreign policy successes were massive.

00:28:11.240 They cannot even be challenged by even his most vocal opposition, whether in the Republican party

00:28:16.020 or within the Democrat party. Everyone understands that on the, on the, uh, in the field of foreign

00:28:20.640 policy, President Trump achieved what many thought was impossible from North Korea to the Middle East

00:28:26.280 and elsewhere. Had he had a second term we would have had, we would have seen even further developments

00:28:30.700 in the Balkans and other regions in terms of developing peace in areas that have seen generational

00:28:35.400 conflict, uh, over the last hundred or so years. So we need this man back in the White House now more

00:28:40.920 than ever. Uh, if you're going to vote on one issue and one issue alone, and that's preventing nuclear

00:28:44.880 war, ensuring peace and making sure your daughters aren't drafted, uh, to utilize the meme you 0.96

00:28:49.980 reference. And the only person that you should be voting for is President Donald J. Trump come

00:28:53.860 November of 2024.

00:28:56.560 Gavin, what are your coordinates? Where can people find you?

00:29:00.560 Thank you. Uh, you can follow me at Gavin Wax. That's Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and all the rest.

00:29:05.120 You can follow the New York Young Republican Club at NYYRC. We're going to have a fantastic gala

00:29:10.020 this year, December 9th. Jack will be there and, uh, many other great American patriots will be

00:29:15.760 there. We have Nigel Farage confirmed as one of our first speakers. We have another speaker

00:29:19.580 soon to be announced that I know many people, uh, will really appreciate and many more to come. So,

00:29:24.040 uh, check out the New York Young Republican Club at NYYRC.com.

00:29:28.500 Very excited. Thank you, Gavin. I want to play now, uh, we're going to be joined in our next segment by

00:29:33.400 a guest, Lee Smith, who actually was featured in a documentary I made years ago. You can go watch

00:29:40.420 this, AntifaMovie.com. It's still up. It's called Antifa Rise of the Black Flags. Antifamovie.com.

00:29:47.380 We've got a clip from it for you that I'd like to play now.

00:29:50.140 There is an ideology called anti-fascism. Now, this is a blend of anti-government extremism

00:29:57.140 of both anarchism and communism. However, in the same way that radical Islam is an idea,

00:30:07.040 there are various groups that have been formed aligned on this idea. A lot of my experience comes

00:30:15.800 from reporting in the Middle East. I lived in Lebanon for several years, you know, where Hezbollah is the

00:30:21.360 main as the, is the, the only existing armed militia inside of Lebanon. And Hezbollah is,

00:30:29.400 Hezbollah is a front for Iranian interest on the Eastern Mediterranean, actually now with the Syrian

00:30:34.980 war and other things that represents Iranian interests around the region. And that is actually

00:30:39.480 how I see Antifa. Historically, this is one of the things that we've seen in the Middle East for,

00:30:44.340 for at least half a century. Of course, the Iranians went to train in Lebanon. We saw 1.00

00:30:50.840 the Middle East is a plane for, is a, is a place for people who are training in terrorism and 1.00

00:30:57.380 training, training for combat. This, this is where they go.

00:31:02.880 In my ear about the boring people at your office, I'm trying to listen to the new human events

00:31:07.960 with Jack Posobiec.

00:31:11.440 All right, Jack Posobiec back here, live human events daily. Now, while we're all focused on what's

00:31:17.180 going on, the censorship regime coming down, Doug Mackey being thrown in jail. And keep in mind,

00:31:23.260 folks, the reason they are doing this, the reason they're doing this to us is because they want to

00:31:28.100 be in your head. They want you second guessing every thought, every joke. You want the thought

00:31:32.660 police? Well, guess what? The thought police are here. And if you cross them, you will be thrown

00:31:37.300 in the gulag. Lee Smith is an author. He's a columnist. He's leesmith.locals.com. You just

00:31:46.160 heard him in that fantastic documentary that we did, Antifa Rise of the Black Flags a few years ago.

00:31:52.220 Lee, thank you so much for joining us here on human events daily.

00:31:55.840 Hey, Jack, thank you so much for, for bringing me on. I really appreciate it. Great to be talking

00:32:00.160 any other day. No, it's great to have you. Now, you've written a ton in tablet about the,

00:32:05.760 about the recent, I would say, flare up. I wouldn't say the kickoff because it's really a flare up

00:32:10.680 in this, this war that's been going on for decades now between, between the state of Israel and these

00:32:17.080 Islamic fighters. When we were talking about Antifa and BLM and did that documentary a few years ago,

00:32:23.660 why was it that you directly tied it to these types of groups? What is the connective tissue there?

00:32:31.000 Well, their causes are essentially, their causes are the same. I mean, I'm, I'm sure that a lot,

00:32:36.040 that a lot of you saw the, you know, the picture of BLM and support of Hamas and they had the image

00:32:41.560 of the paraglider. I mean, you know, what, what did these paragliders do? I mean, they slaughtered

00:32:45.800 hundreds of Israelis at, at a music festival. You know, they, they, they, you know, the, the total right

00:32:52.160 now is 1400 Israelis. They killed, um, uh, hundreds who've been taken hostage in Gaza. Um, so again,

00:33:01.820 it's the same kind of, and, and we've seen this going on in the sixties and seventies. I mean,

00:33:06.260 it's important to remember all the international, especially all the Europeans and the American left

00:33:11.340 who trained in places like Lebanon, which is by the way, for Hamas trained for this operation. So

00:33:17.260 it really is sort of an international, uh, an international collection of terror organizations,

00:33:26.500 militias, if, if, if people would prefer to put it like that, but BLM is clearly a blue militia,

00:33:32.420 right. And there's a reason they stand up for Hamas. There's a reason they stand up for Hezbollah. 0.99

00:33:38.220 There's a reason they promote the same causes, right. And that's nothing to do with justice.

00:33:42.980 That's to do with, you know, it, it, it, it has to do, it has to do with violence and targeting

00:33:48.800 American peace and prosperity. That's a very important thing that they share. These are all

00:33:54.640 anti-American organizations, right. In addition to anti-Israel, the primarily anti-American

00:34:00.560 organization. Well, and they see it as connected. So I, I remember, uh, your analysis from this work

00:34:07.420 we had done a couple of years ago, and I had actually tweeted, I said, Oh, don't be surprised

00:34:11.640 when you see BLM come out in support of Hamas. And they did the same. They did exactly that the very 0.54

00:34:17.120 next day. And Lee, isn't it the same type of rhetoric that we hear from Hamas, from the Hezbollah,

00:34:22.660 these groups talking about colonization colonizers, isn't that the same type of rhetoric that they push

00:34:28.560 within the BLM community? This was one of the purposes of the Iran nuclear deal,

00:34:34.620 uh, Barack Obama's Iran nuclear deal, which Joe Biden has came to restore. The purpose of it was,

00:34:41.460 was to push, uh, was to push Jewish Democrats out of, uh, out of, out of positions, uh, of power 0.59

00:34:49.400 and the democratic party. Right. So, I mean, I mean, these are basically centrist and to replace them

00:34:54.960 with people like BLM, with activists, with the squad, right? With Russia, the play with AOC, 0.56

00:35:02.340 with Ilhan Omar. This is one of the purposes. Why? Because it would discuss centrist Democrats so

00:35:08.860 much. The idea that Barack Obama, that the United States was going to legalize the nuclear weapons

00:35:15.020 program of a terror state. So, I mean, these things are supposed to move in parallel. That's who Barack

00:35:21.320 Obama intended to empower domestically. The characters from BLM, the squad, Antifa, right?

00:35:29.740 And the, and the characters that he intended to empower abroad were Hamas or Hezbollah, the Islamic 0.97

00:35:35.840 Republic of Iran. So, these things were designed to move in tandem. So, again, that all of these people

00:35:41.740 feel empowered right now and thrilled by the sight of Israeli blood, uh, by, by, by, by, by horrific, 0.85

00:35:50.800 horrific crimes. They're salivating and drooling at that. Remember, this is purposeful. Barack Obama

00:35:58.020 intended to prioritize them, to make them the power core of the democratic party and abroad to give them

00:36:07.600 power over the Middle East. And that's really interesting because it was, again, of course, in that

00:36:14.720 same second Obama, second term of Obama, that you also saw the rise of BLM with the flames, the flames

00:36:21.700 of which were quietly, and in some cases, very openly and loudly, uh, inflamed by the very same Obama

00:36:28.100 administration. So, what you're saying is that this wasn't some, some accident. This wasn't some, uh, some

00:36:34.160 goof up. This was actually the policy of the Obama administration that we're now seeing live live

00:36:40.680 in front of our eyes. Yes, 100%. This was the plan to unleash these forces of violence, both, uh, you

00:36:49.120 know, both here, both here and abroad. And I want to say it's a very important thing, Jack, because,

00:36:53.320 you know, like, uh, we're all out there on social media and checking different things out. And, you know,

00:36:58.200 I, I think, I think it's fine for, I mean, you know, I'm obviously very pro-Israel, uh, and I

00:37:04.160 think it's fine if people aren't or, or whatever, but I just want to say that this, I'm not saying

00:37:09.820 that Israel fight, Israel's fight is ours, right? That's what a lot of people were saying about the

00:37:15.120 democracy agenda, the botched and, and, and moronic democracy agenda in the Middle East. That's not what 0.73

00:37:21.520 I'm saying. I'm saying it's important for us to step aside and see that these things are connected,

00:37:27.660 right? A lot of people are looking at it. And again, I get it because people have been, because

00:37:31.660 we've been targeted, right? For what seems like it's since 2016, starting with Russiagate and then

00:37:38.160 everything from COVID mandates and, and mask mandates and, and, and January 6th and all this

00:37:46.500 garbage, all the psyops, the, the, the, the tens of billions of dollars that have gone to Volodymyr

00:37:52.240 Zelensky. I get why people look at this and say, this smells awfully fishy to me. 0.98

00:37:57.660 But I want to say one thing, which I think is very important. The communications architecture

00:38:03.800 that is being used to push all these information operations on the American public was first built

00:38:11.240 by Barack Obama in 2014 to sell the Iran nuclear deal, right? Israel is not part of the psyop.

00:38:19.800 Israel is a target of the psyop as is the American public. So I think it's very important for people

00:38:27.300 to understand and to remember what the Iran deal was like. Obama and Obama and his aides Ben Rhodes

00:38:34.200 at the top of the list lied about it. They said, Oh no, no, this is going to stop Iran from getting 0.79

00:38:38.900 a bomb. But just a cursory glance at that agreement, the Iran nuclear agreement showed that was a lie,

00:38:45.700 right? What it was meant to do was to legalize it, legalize the bomb. 0.84

00:38:51.840 What, what did, uh, and what did Ben Rhodes famously say about this communications apparatus

00:38:56.960 when he discussed, um, his, uh, his dealings or his management, shall we say of journalists?

00:39:03.060 Right. He said that, well, I can't remember. These are 23 year olds who know nothing about the world at

00:39:07.260 all, except, you know, one of the things that's kind of interesting, if you look at Russiagate and if

00:39:11.940 you look at how they sold the Iran deal, they used veterans, right? They used people like Tom

00:39:16.680 Friedman, Jeffrey Goldberg at the Atlantic. So it wasn't just 23 year olds. Michael Isikoff. Yes.

00:39:22.740 Michael Isikoff, David Ignatius, look at the people that used to sell it. So I think it's very

00:39:28.140 important for people to understand actually what the communications architecture looks like and how

00:39:33.640 this was built. Again, I understand why people look like, is this, is this just the next current thing?

00:39:39.440 Um, it's important for us to look at this clearly and see how the sides are drawn, right?

00:39:45.420 But Barack Obama and Joe Biden have taken a position against the U S public, just as they've

00:39:52.660 taken a position against the government of Israel. Again, people don't have to like Israel. They can be

00:39:59.220 contemptuous. They can hate it, whatever. I just want people to see the layout of this, what's actually

00:40:06.700 going on here and how this is a part, right? How this is a part of the communications architecture

00:40:13.460 first built by Barack Obama and now employed by Joe Biden.

00:40:18.620 Lee, I think that's exactly right. And we can see the media when, when NBC's chief disinformation

00:40:24.440 reporter, sweaty Ben Collins, we call him sweaty Ben around here. We keep, I keep offering him by the

00:40:29.960 way to, uh, to buy the, my pillow pack of the, the six, you know, the six piece towels, so he can wipe

00:40:34.860 the sweat off of his forehead. He goes all in on whatever narrative the New York times is pushing,

00:40:39.680 which ends up having to have their headline changed three times in one day. Lee, imagine if you or I had

00:40:46.720 to change our headline three times in one day, we'd be demonetized and censored, you know, blamed an

00:40:51.940 attack on a hospital and on all this. When, when at the time they had no idea they had no, it turns out

00:40:56.860 it was the parking lot. It wasn't actually the hospital. Uh, we're coming up on a break. I'd love to be

00:41:00.940 able to hold you a lead because this is an important day and people need to understand it's not

00:41:05.460 hypocrisy. It's hierarchy. These people don't care if you point out the double standards because they are

00:41:12.140 operating off of a playbook and agenda. And you know, who's got a copy of that playbook? Lee Smith. He's here

00:41:17.940 with us right now.

00:41:21.920 I'm always listening to human events with Jack Posobiec.

00:41:24.520 All right. Jack Posobiec back live human events daily, Washington DC. We're on the phone with

00:41:31.080 Lee Smith, the author of the plot against the president Lee in that book, that documentary

00:41:36.280 plot against the president, you focused on the U S intelligence community extensively. I previously

00:41:42.160 served in the U S intelligence community for about eight years, but you had an interesting piece

00:41:46.000 in tablet magazine this week, talking about the fact that, you know, we've talked about the Intel

00:41:50.460 failures of the IDF. We've talked about the fact that Egyptian intelligence supposedly warned Israel

00:41:56.700 about this. We're not sure what happened in, in the shakeup there, but you asked the question,

00:42:01.500 what did U S intelligence know? And why is no one asking about this?

00:42:06.460 Yeah. I mean, I kind of went through all the different stories and you know, if you,

00:42:10.620 if you look at the way all these stories were pushed into the U S press, I mean, it's astonishing

00:42:15.980 because you see a lot of the people who were pushing Russia gate stories, whether this was,

00:42:20.860 uh, Natasha Bertrand, uh, CNN, whether this was Ken Delaney at NBC. I mean, anyone who's following

00:42:28.500 Russia gate will recognize these names, that these were some of the, you know, some of the biggest

00:42:33.060 creeps out there pushing the collusion story. So here they are, they're pushing all this stuff

00:42:38.080 about what the U S intelligence community, uh, told the Israelis, how, how they warned the Israelis

00:42:44.640 or someone warned the Israelis and none of it adds up. Right. I mean, uh, first of all, the,

00:42:50.160 the Egyptian story, I'm, I mean, the United States gives the, gives the, uh, Egyptians $2 billion a

00:42:56.460 year. I mean, it's an enormous aid package. And part of that includes all sorts of military and

00:43:00.800 intelligence cooperation. So I'm awfully skeptical of the idea that the Egyptians would have gone to the

00:43:06.580 Israelis without Intel, but they wouldn't have shared it with the Americans. It doesn't make sense.

00:43:11.140 Here's the other thing we have. I mean, the largest, uh, largest, uh, um, military base in the

00:43:17.440 Middle East is in Qatar and Qatar, you know, um, sent calm, uh, uh, Aladev air base. But, uh, I mean,

00:43:25.240 Qatar, that's, we're also the, the head of Hamas, Ismail Henia lives. So we didn't have access to

00:43:30.960 anything he was doing there. And this is keeping in mind the fact that the NSA basically collects

00:43:36.360 on everyone in the world, but somehow this is something that we went, something we had nothing

00:43:41.100 on and same with Lebanon. I mean, we, we pour $72 billion a year into Lebanon, the Lebanese armed

00:43:47.480 forces into the internal security forces. And this is where they plan the operation. This is where the

00:43:53.460 Iranians plan the operation in Lebanon and in Syria, but still the United States had nothing on it.

00:43:59.140 Look, obviously the Israelis are to blame, primarily to blame, and they're going to pay, 1.00

00:44:03.880 they've already paid a very heavy price. 1400, 1400 Israelis are dead. The people who are responsible 1.00

00:44:10.320 for this failure will go down in history as, as, as, you know, I mean, I, I, I, can you imagine

00:44:16.500 having that on your conscience, nevermind on your tombstone? I mean, it's terrible. So they're going

00:44:21.920 to pay a heavy price in addition to the price they've already paid in blood. But the idea that somehow,

00:44:27.240 yeah, the U S had nothing to do with it. They didn't know anything that was going on.

00:44:30.920 That's absolutely nonsense. And that's what all these stories were for. All these stories were

00:44:35.040 pushed to, uh, to first to cover for all of the U S failures and not just to cover for the U S failures.

00:44:43.380 Look, I'm the, the, the evidence points to the, the evidence points pretty strongly to the fact that

00:44:48.800 the United States knew something was going on and they didn't share it with the Israelis.

00:44:52.520 Now, I don't think the Americans, I don't think anyone had any, had any idea how bad this was

00:44:58.000 going to be the scope or the character of this vicious assault. But it seems to me, the United 0.53

00:45:03.680 States, again, given the number of the store, given the number of stories that came out, given

00:45:08.220 how laughably absurd they are and given them and given how all of them are, are competing with each

00:45:13.840 other. It seems to me that there are a lot of people, uh, across agencies and offices across the

00:45:20.100 beltway who were, who are worried that something's going to come out scribing or, or giving evidence

00:45:25.920 of their, um, of the fact that they knew what was happening, or they had some inkling of what was

00:45:30.920 happening and didn't pass it on to anyone.

00:45:35.220 You know, and, and Lee, that, that is a huge, a huge consideration. And now I'll put it this way.

00:45:40.720 What's your assessment on that? Do you think that this was, and some people said it's malicious.

00:45:44.660 Some people have said it was incompetence. Others have pointed to the dysfunction within, uh, the

00:45:50.420 IDF within Israel politically, of course, that's spilling out into the IDF. And in fact, 60 Minutes

00:45:55.480 did a whole piece on that just about three weeks before this attack took place, talking about the

00:45:59.820 readiness of the IDF and many reservists, uh, leaving their posts and actually resigning in protest

00:46:05.540 of Netanyahu and some of the internal domestic politics, this judicial reform package he was pushing.

00:46:10.980 Uh, but at the same time, when it comes to our us Intel, I mean, the thing that really strikes to

00:46:16.020 me would be that they are just so focused on Ukraine right now that we don't actually have

00:46:22.260 the ability and the resources that are being sent to every everything else. And that's why,

00:46:27.380 of course, that Hamas and Iran and these other actors, of course, took advantage of that.

00:46:33.540 Well, I mean, I mean, they're also focused on, on, uh, on Catholics. They're focused on 0.57

00:46:39.540 Yes, of course. Right. They're focused on the school parents. And those of us,

00:46:44.020 those of us Catholics that like to, to pray in Latin. Right. Right. So this is a, this is,

00:46:49.380 this is one of their priorities. Now they had, they had it, they knew what was going on. The

00:46:54.740 issue is though the fundamentalist look, I mean, I reported previously on, um, you know, there's a

00:47:00.660 spy at the Pentagon. There's an, there's, there's a member of an Iranian spy ring at the Pentagon who

00:47:06.180 was pushed into the U S government by Biden, uh, by Biden. And before that, Obama's Iran on,

00:47:12.180 but Robert Malley pushed an Iranian operative named Arianna Tabatabai first into the state

00:47:17.860 department. And now she's at BOD. What does she do at the defense department? Funny you should ask.

00:47:22.740 She's the chief of staff for the assistant secretary of defense for special operations.

00:47:27.860 Astonishing, isn't it? But that's, what's going on. They do not perceive Iran to be an adversary.

00:47:34.340 They look at Iran as a prospective partner. So they, they, they, they knew a lot of what was

00:47:39.700 going on. They're, they, of course they collect on Iran. Of course they know what's going on.

00:47:44.340 They just don't think the Iranians are that big of a problem right now. They have other priorities. 1.00

00:47:49.300 Again, like, like, like Jack DeSilvić, they're worried. Right, right, right. But, well,

00:47:55.940 Lee, you're actually, you're putting out something here that that's important. And I wanted to,

00:47:59.620 I was looking down before because I was picking up my, my rosary, my, my large size rosary that we

00:48:03.860 keep right next to the desk. And I've got the small one over there. That's, that's my, that's my standby,

00:48:08.740 just in case you need a sidearm, just in case you need your side piece. But you're actually saying

00:48:12.340 that, and we only have about a minute left, but you're actually saying that the Biden administration

00:48:16.500 deprioritized what Iran might be up to because they're trying to build relations with Iran.

00:48:22.260 That's a huge deal. That's what you're saying is they could have actually picked up these

00:48:26.180 indicators of planning, but then de-prioritized it because of political agendas from the White

00:48:32.820 House. Yes, exactly right. They proceed as Barack Obama did. They perceive the Iranians to be a

00:48:39.300 prospective partner. They want to get the Iran deal back on course. Look, I want to point something else

00:48:43.780 out. And maybe you, you, you've been talking about it real quickly. We just got 30 seconds left.

00:48:48.100 There had been 2009, 2012, 2014, 2021, and now five Hamas-Israel conflicts. Guess when none of them

00:49:00.580 happened? During President Donald Trump's administration, right? There's something,

00:49:07.140 there's a problem going on with the Obama faction. Why does Hamas make a run at our Israel allies then,

00:49:15.060 and they never did anything. When Donald Trump is in office, I think.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - October 18, 2023

EPISODE 585： THE GULAGS HAVE ARRIVED - DOUGLASS MACKEY SENTENCED TO SEVEN MONTHS FOR MEMES

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