EPISODE 605： THE RED DRAGON RETURNS
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Today marks the first time in six and a half years, 2,414 days, that the Red Emperor himself has returned to American soil. And this meeting will not be like the last one, the one that was held back in Mar-A-Lago with President Trump in 2017.
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Daughter Babylon is like a threshing floor, and the time is trampled.
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Like a dragon, he has swallowed us and filled his stomach with our delicacies,
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May the violence done to our flesh be on Babylon, say the inhabitants of Zion.
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May our blood be on those who live in Babylonia, says Jerusalem.
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Today marks the first time in six and a half years, 2,414 days to be exact,
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Xi Jinping has returned to American soil, folks.
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And this meeting will not be like the last one,
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the one that was held back in Mar-a-Lago with President Trump in 2017.
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You see, in 2017, the United States was thriving.
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Less than a year before, the unprecedented tariffs on China were put in place.
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Tariffs that benefited every farmer in America.
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Three years before, China unleashed the world-altering plague on the planet.
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The Red Emperor isn't here to negotiate stability,
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despite what the regime might be espousing to their progressive base.
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She is here for one reason and one reason only, to inspect his holdings.
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And I'm not talking about the farmland or the Fortune 500 companies.
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No, I'm talking about the President of the United States of America himself.
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I'm talking about 1700 Pennsylvania Avenue, Joe Biden,
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the most valuable piece of property in the Red Emperor's portfolio.
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Do you think Biden's going to sit down with Xi and say the people of the United States
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deserve answers about the spy balloons, about America being unsecure,
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about the CCP spy base in Wuhan, the spy base in Cuba, the virus manufactured in Wuhan?
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You think Biden is going to ask for restitutions?
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No, because the Biden crime family has been bought and paid for by the Chinese Communist Party
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Biden said that he's going to make sure interests are protected.
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Yeah, we know which interests he's talking about.
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Xi is going to lay out the deal and Biden is going to comply like the lapdog of the red dragon
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that he is, that he's done time and time again.
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What about the price of the cost of living, the battle for the petrodollar?
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And the other streets of San Francisco are lined with the yellow and red of China.
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Xi Jinping is here because he's already negotiating with Gavin Newsom.
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The killer is in the house and your whole family is sleeping in ignorant bliss.
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If you can't find a way to wake up, then the Chinafornia borders will not stop at Nevada.
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And those red and yellow flags will stretch all the way across past the Rockies, past the
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That's the grip, the claw of the red dragon across your throat.
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So dust off your George Floyd knee pads because after she is done with Biden, he's going to
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come to every single one of these politicians and tell them to bow down.
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Every one of our leaders will bow down, bend their knee to the red emperor.
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And they'll be told that they can go on, they can be rich, they can be powerful, as long
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as every single one of them swears fealty to the new world order.
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We're going to walk you through that today here on the show.
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But you're really blowing this out of proportion.
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Let's bring on someone who's not me, but who studied these issues indelibly.
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That is Mike Benz, the executive director of the Foundation for Freedom Online.
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Mike, when we look at these images, these and truly startling images that we see of Xi Jinping
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paraded, literally paraded through the streets of San Francisco and Americans, not that's
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Should we be surprised when we see the flag of China flying higher than the U.S. flag there?
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Not unexpected if you've been following this, but there's still something visibly shocking.
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I think not even for Zelensky in Ukraine did you have major metropolitan streets draped
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in a foreign country's flag in a flagship city like San Francisco.
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But essentially what you have here is the story is, you know, John Perkins wrote a book called
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Confessions of an Economic Hitman, which described the strategy of the American empire in the
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20th century to essentially use financial investments in foreign countries, buying up their
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infrastructure, buying up their real estate, buying up their ports to effectively have financial
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control, economic control over that country's affairs, leveraging their financial neediness
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What you actually have right now in the state of California is kind of California debt trap
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diplomacy with China sort of doing in the 21st century what the American empire did in
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the 20th century, except now they're doing it to us.
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And even in the book, he kind of points out that we basically learned it from the British
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before us, the Dutch were kind of doing that beforehand, not so much in terms of land holdings,
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but certainly in terms of business, in terms of finance.
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That's what the Dutch were doing actually to some extent in Southeast Asia, a fantastic
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And I wish the author were a little bit more politically incorrect or willing to be politically
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incorrect these days, because I've noticed that he's very interested in, if you look at
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any of his stuff today, he'll criticize the West, but he'll never compare any of this to
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So it's fantastic that you're talking about this.
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When we look at China, though, writ large, what do we see in terms of Gavin Newsom?
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Because he goes over to what he called the Chinese Bay Area.
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So this is the area around Guangdong, Shenzhen, Hong Kong.
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And then he's got Xi Jinping coming and meeting with him here in the American Bay Area.
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Well, what you have now is the rise of something they're calling regional diplomacy.
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So you do have a big division right now in Washington, D.C. with China Hawks having some
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success at stymieing some aspects of Chinese technological development and trade.
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And so you have regional players like Gavin Newsom in California and Pritzker in Illinois.
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And you also have this in New York where you have regional states doing the kind of diplomacy
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that would not necessarily have bipartisan support at the Washington, D.C. level.
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So you have these sort of private trade agreements between China and individual states like California,
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This is something that has happened from time to time with allies at the state level with
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But, you know, you can you can only imagine if, say, the state of Florida had struck a, you
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know, a trade deal or was trying to entice foreign direct investment from Russia.
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Somehow China gets a free pass in terms of economic entanglements in a way that no other,
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you know, dubbed adversary or great power competitor in the world does.
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China and California do one hundred and sixty six billion dollars into a trade annually.
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That is all money that if we were had a robust domestic manufacturing base and were concerned
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about the welfare of U.S. citizens could be invested in American companies.
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And instead, it's essentially being shipped overseas.
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And the primary benefactor of that is our chief competitor.
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And it's funny you mention that, because as a matter of fact, that's one of the very ventures
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That was one of the pieces that I worked with at the American Chamber of Commerce, as well
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as another business firm that was over there, a consulting firm was at the state level.
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You would have this back when Deval Patrick was in Maryland.
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This is when a lot of these guys were coming around that excuse me, Deval Patrick in Massachusetts,
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it's not Maryland, that they were coming over and conducting deal after deal after deal in China.
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You saw nuclear Westinghouse came over and they then they they told us very specifically this
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They came over and said, we don't even look at the United States or Europe in terms of economic
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Westinghouse, of course, builds these nuclear sites.
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We don't see any growth whatsoever when it comes to the United States, when it comes to
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So when I hear people come in and they say, oh, this is just sort of a natural flow of
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things, it's a natural redirection of of wages and no, no, no, it's it's managed.
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So the idea was that the manufacturing sector of the United States would be shipped overseas.
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They wanted to exploit the cheap labor of China doesn't have the labor laws of the United States,
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doesn't have the ability for the wealth to maintain in the United States.
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So the the western coast or, you know, so the western side of the river in Shanghai was
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farms in the 1990 was farms and like rice paddies.
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And now it's one of the largest economic and financial centers in all of Asia.
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There's a reason that Shanghai looks like that.
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And Pittsburgh, Detroit, Chicago, the list goes on.
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I mean, and to their credit, they are investing in themselves, even if it's more expensive than
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going to Bangladesh or going to Vietnam for things that the short term pain of something
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costing extra by doing it internally is something that China essentially copied from the U.S.
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when we were doing this internally for the bulk of the of the 20th century.
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But there is another aspect of this storyline that I find very troubling that came out during
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It turned out that that Hunter Biden, you know, the Biden family itself actually had direct
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financial partnerships with Chinese energy firms, Chinese energy firms who are very active
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But one one of the examples from the Biden laptop, it turned out that that Hunter Biden was actually
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serving as the broker to try to sell a Louisiana LNG port, a natural gas port to Chinese investors
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and collecting essentially a broker's fee for selling off U.S. assets to China.
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This is also one of these stories that in addition to essentially robbing the American
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people of those investment dollars, you also have this whole cottage industry of being the broker
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or the finder to sell off at a fire sale price to a foreign investor those U.S. assets.
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There's a curious untold story, I think, here in terms of who within the Newsom click is actually
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getting broker's fees for negotiating these sales to Chinese companies.
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That's something that I think intrepid investigative journalists would probably have a goldmine in
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That's exactly right. And I think most people know that Newsom owes his entire political career
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to the Getty family and their oil holdings in terms of California. This has always been where
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his power base has come from. And he's written that completely obviously up to the point now where
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people are having very serious discussions about him taking the reins of the Democratic platform from
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Biden and essentially saying that he will come in. You know, I've said a million times,
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I think there's a shadow primary going on right now. Biden himself, Jill, others want him to stay,
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but so many other people chomping at the bit for Newsom. And in many ways, you're seeing that shadow
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primary play out right now as she is meeting with the two of them. And it's also important to note,
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by the way, that you mentioned Louisiana, because of course, Louisiana is also the location of what
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our strategic petroleum reserve, the strategic petroleum reserve in those giant salt caverns
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underneath the swamps of Louisiana, which were sold off by the Biden administration. And who
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was it, by the way, who was it that they sold it to not just the United States, but they were selling
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it to China. You're absolutely right that the brokerage fees that come out through all of this,
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who decides who gets the contracts. That's where the kickbacks come in. That's how you get 10% for
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the big guy. We're going to cut to a break. By the way, I wanted to play the new anthem of the United
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vassal states of America, because that is what we are. Stay tuned. Human Events Daily continues.
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You talk about influences. These are influences, and they're friends of mine. Jack Posobiec.
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All right, Jack Posobiec back here live Human Events Daily. We're told breaking news. Joe Biden has just
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piece of information, as it's flying through, we see Taiwan, of course, has elections coming up in
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eight weeks. We're told that Biden is going to be bringing this up when he's behind closed doors
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with Xi Jinping. Walk us through, though, this meeting itself, is this what really matters,
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or is it this, is it this package of economic deals, these contracts that are being signed,
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as you say, and you have this incredible thread on Twitter as well, about essentially the selling
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of China, excuse me, the selling of California to China by Newsom. Yeah, so you have these,
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so you have the California level, and then you have the federal level. And, you know, on the California
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side, you have the sale of California ports, of energy, of real estate, and even of Silicon Valley
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companies. You had a billion dollars of Chinese investment just in the Silicon Valley companies
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this year alone. But on the federal side, you have something that is, you know, on the Biden side,
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you have something kind of unholy in the sense that China signed a $400 billion trade agreement with
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Iran in 2021, $400 billion with a B. And that agreement between China and Iran deliberately
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evaded U.S. sanctions on Iran to export their oil and gas. Now, the company that's mediating,
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that one of the companies that's shipping the oil and gas out of Iran to China, because China has
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massive energy needs, is this company, CEFC China Energy, that is, that was, we know to have been
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partnered in the past with Hunter Biden. They were, they were the ones that, that Hunter was negotiating
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the, the sale of this Monkey Island, Louisiana LNG port to. Now, we know that the, that the Biden
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administration has been trying to put back the pieces together of the Iran deal that the Obama
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administration signed and that, that the Trump administration killed week one, the JCPA, the
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JCPOA, the, the, the Iran nuclear deal. Now, China has basically done a backdoor Iran deal through this
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$400 billion trade agreement bilaterally between China and Iran. We know that the Biden family is
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personally partnered with these Chinese energy firms, and they're the ones who are evading the Iran
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sanctions. You put that together with the unfreezing of the Iran assets and with the side that the
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State Department appears to be picking in the current conflict between Israel and Iran's proxies. And the
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picture that emerges from that is a Biden administration that is working together, it seems, with China in
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order to carry out a backdoor Iran deal. And this is something that I think is a continuing storyline that
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doesn't get nearly enough coverage, because the implications of this will essentially reshape the
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I think it's exactly right. And we know, of course, that it really is this rise of China, as well as the
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BRICS nations that's driving Saudi Arabia to now turn more towards the east Iran already firmly in that
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pocket as well. Dubai, the UAE clearly looking to backfill all of this Azerbaijan, not only by the way,
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Azerbaijan and Qatar, not only playing in China, but also to the EU as well, because of the sanctions
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that have been placed on Russia, and of course, the bombing of Nord Stream 2. And we are never allowed
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to ask who did that, by the way. I want to also point out that CEFC, this is the same company, look,
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I get it, folks, right? And I say this, even as a guy who speaks Mandarin, the names, there's so many
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names, right? When it comes to when every time you talk about China, Chinese oligarchs, but do you
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remember, does everyone remember, and it's so key what Ben just put out there, the $40,000 loan repayment
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that was made to Joseph Biden, to Joe Biden, from his brother and his sister-in-law, Sarah Biden. That all
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started with a phone call that Hunter Biden made in 2017 to Raymond Zhao. Raymond Zhao, who does he
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work for? Oh, guess what? CEFC, the very same CEFC. And folks need to know, this is China's energy
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giant. This is like the Gazprom of China. This is their main state-controlled energy corporation. We
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don't really have something, I guess, Exxon is probably the closest cognate that you'd have to that
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in the United States, but in China and in Russia, they're both state-related enterprises.
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So when you're looking at this, understand that there's so much money that's flowing through these
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brokerage accounts. This is the same exact company that are doing deals with Iran, they're doing deals
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with the Saudis. And of course, on the back end, what do we see? That $40,000 that goes not just to
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Hunter, not just to the brothers, not just to one of these shell companies that Hunter Biden had set up,
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that very same $40,000 that went directly into Joe Biden's pocket. That came from CEFC.
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Yeah. I mean, you have this situation where CEFC is basically run by Chinese intelligence,
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and you have private deals from the Biden family directly, from the bag man of the Biden family,
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Hunter, who's cutting these direct deals to buy up U.S. assets, where Hunter would get essentially a
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brokerage fee for it. And the way that Hunter pitched it in that email to CEFC was saying,
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oh, this will be good for Chinese investors because these ports are going to make you a lot of money,
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and it's going to be good for local people in Louisiana and America who will now have more jobs
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because they're supported by Chinese finance, essentially, with the payments made to acquire
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those interests. But again, this gets back to confessions of an economic hitman. This is the
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same story we would tell warlord families in the 20th century, everywhere from Africa to
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Oman to Indonesia, when we were trying to buy up their critical infrastructure and essentially pay off
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insiders to the ruling government. And meanwhile, it would strip the people's interests bare because
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even when those assets perform, they no longer profit from them. It's the foreign direct investors
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do. So you end up with a situation where you have bank made by the foreign investors and bank
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made by a small number of people in the ruling regime, but the rest of the people who live there
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end up with nothing and they're forced to basically have nothing and be happy.
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That's exactly right. And so, and I hear this time and time again, by the way,
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the EB-5 program, which is the selling of U.S. green cards and U.S. citizenship is rife with
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these scams. It is a scam every single time the investment goes in, the investors make money,
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the jobs never actually seem to materialize. They never do. And people need to understand that
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the jobs never actually materialize because all the money is on paper. The jobs are always held
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in China. That is where the wealth ultimately flows. And then, of course, the people who are making
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the investment, they get theirs off of the back end. So they don't care. This is why the middle
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of the United States is gutted. This is why the South is gutted. This is why American cities have
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been in addition, by the way, to our complete lack of criminal law enforcement. And it's amazing to me,
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by the way, to look at San Francisco, it must be said, but of course they cleaned up the city and
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Gavin Newsom is more than happy to admit that they cleaned up the city for the return of the Red
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Emperor. And I say this as someone that lived in Shanghai for years. In that type, in that part
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of the city, you do not see crime. You do not see, I can walk through the city of Shanghai at three in
00:28:51.700
the morning, all the way across the city by myself or with friends, never once accosted, never even
00:28:56.900
thought of there being any issue whatsoever. You can't do that in San Francisco. I don't think you
00:29:02.880
do that anywhere in California, except maybe this week. The quote was incredible from Newsom there.
00:29:08.500
I mean, in a sense, you almost have to give it up to him and say, well, at least you're being
00:29:12.980
honest. When he said that, you know, we have, of course we cleaned it up. When you have guests
00:29:19.420
coming over, you clean the house. And it's basically admitting that the 50 million people in
00:29:25.840
California are not, are not, are not really, don't really belong in their own home. That it's willing
00:29:33.080
to be made a mess in, you know, while, while they live there. I mean, that would be a hard
00:29:37.720
sell. I think for anyone with a spouse to say, Hey babe, actually this place can be a pigsty
00:29:43.520
until my buddy Tony comes over. Then we'll, then we'll clean it up. I mean, people actually live
00:29:49.240
in California. That whole thing about what you cleaned up when a guest is coming over sort
00:29:53.580
of presupposes you live by yourself or know what, no one's there. But they, but again,
00:29:59.220
they're dressing it up because they're seeking Chinese investment. It's not just cleaning it up
00:30:04.160
for a guest. They're cleaning it up for a potential funder, donor, investor to sell off the assets that
00:30:11.760
should be profiting native Californians. And this again, gets sort of back to the issue that got us
00:30:17.400
into this problem in the first place. We have to say as a nation that there are some things that money
00:30:21.840
can't buy in the short term. You have to be willing to make a higher financial investment in the nut
00:30:28.700
that keeps everything going. Your manufacturing base, your own domestic workforce, even if that
00:30:34.580
costs extra, even if there's going to be a latency period before you can catch up. Otherwise the gap
00:30:40.560
between us and China will just grow farther and farther to the point that there's will be no
00:30:45.440
catching up. Mike, we are just about out of time. Where can people go to follow you, get all your
00:30:50.380
insights. You can follow me at, on X at Mike Ben cyber, all one word. And my foundation is
00:30:56.480
foundationforfreedomonline.com. Mike Ben's cyber. He's into mafias, folks, the Cowboys,
00:31:03.560
the Yankees, check him out and make sure you watch his selfie videos. Raw Egg Nationalist joins us next.
00:31:11.080
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All right, folks, I want to switch gears just a little bit because there's been this huge controversy
00:32:26.860
in the UK, a criminal case, a death that happened in public, as well as a standing ovation
00:32:35.600
for the person who caused the death, believe it or not. And I believe we have this clip. So this was
00:32:43.600
this hockey player. Let me paint the picture for everybody. This hockey player, Matt Petgrave,
00:32:48.580
who goes and in an incident, and I'll just call it an incident. As of right now, we can see on the
00:32:54.060
footage. We'll play the footage for you in a second. Raises his leg and what to me appears to
00:33:00.020
be a kick, kicks the opposing player. Now he may lose his balance. He may kick higher than he meant
00:33:06.620
to, but he ends up chopping and slashing across the player's neck. The player is then killed later,
00:33:15.020
actually killed. But when Matt Petgrave then returned, he got a standing ovation after the death
00:33:24.680
of hockey star Adam Johnson in the UK. Let's play that standing ovation footage now for you folks.
00:33:44.280
Raw Egg Nationalist, who's based in the UK, is here to provide some insight for us. Egg,
00:33:50.900
I'm looking at this, and you and I have chatted offline. Help me make some sense of it because
00:33:55.880
not only is there a standing ovation here, and I get, okay, it's sports, maybe that they support
00:34:02.020
their player, got it, but he killed somebody. And now there's been an arrest, and UK media won't
00:34:08.780
even tell us that Matt Petgrave was arrested. They say man was arrested on suspicion of manslaughter.
00:34:16.460
It's great to be with you again, Jack. It's very difficult, actually, really,
00:34:21.760
to figure out what's going on. I'm in a number of different minds about it. We've just seen the
00:34:26.760
footage. I mean, from one pro wrestling fan to another, that looked like a sweet chin music,
00:34:32.280
if it was anything. I mean, it's hard to argue that that was accidental. And yet that's exactly
00:34:39.540
what people are saying. So he was given a, he didn't play after the match. The Sheffield Steelers
00:34:48.480
didn't play for a week, and then they played again. He didn't play in the match, but his picture was
00:34:52.640
shown, and there was a standing ovation. And I think it's difficult not to ask the question,
00:34:58.840
what would have happened if Adam Johnson had been the man responsible for the deadly foul,
00:35:05.640
and Matt Petgrave had been the victim? Because, of course, there is a racial element to this
00:35:11.200
incident that it's hard not to talk about. And, of course, Johnson's teammates have actually
00:35:20.580
spoken out against the, quote unquote, hate that Matt Petgrave has received on social media as a
00:35:27.760
result of the killing of Adam Johnson. So it's a complicated case with all sorts of elements that
00:35:35.740
go well beyond just the usual sort of sports ball stupidity.
00:35:41.760
Well, I think that's right. And walk me through some of this as well, this standing ovation that we
00:35:47.160
see. This was someone who was killed. This was someone who died. I mean, it's tragedy. No,
00:35:53.820
it's clearly a tragedy. But you don't hear this. And when George Floyd died, which also had a racial
00:35:58.240
element, we were told to have these honorariums and memorials around the world at sporting events,
00:36:04.820
taking a knee became a worldwide phenomenon. But in this case, you've got a black player who has
00:36:11.180
slashed the neck and killed a white player. And these people are giving him a standing ovation.
00:36:17.400
To me, this looks like some sort of, I don't know what to call it, a mental terraforming of sorts.
00:36:22.740
When you see this going on. And I believe and I would throw this out there and I'm not familiar
00:36:27.940
with how the case will be settled. But if those people are put on a jury, I don't think any of
00:36:33.100
them would vote to convict him. Yeah, no, I totally I totally agree with you. It's a it's an
00:36:40.120
unprecedented event. I mean, deaths do happen in sports. Of course, they happen. They happen in
00:36:46.020
contact sports. They happen in boxing, rugby, American football and all sorts of other sports as
00:36:52.660
well. But but something like this, I mean, this is absolutely horrifying. And I've certainly never
00:36:58.260
ever in my in my lifetime as a as a an occasional sports watcher ever seen an incident like this
00:37:05.120
be celebrated in this manner. I think that that is there's such a clear sort of propaganda element
00:37:11.420
to it that it that it really is quite shocking. And it's going largely without without without much
00:37:17.460
comment. You know, it's just it's just being reported. Oh, yes. Matt Petgrave received a
00:37:22.100
standing ovation from the fans as if it's a totally normal thing to do. I mean, what's worth saying as
00:37:29.220
well, of course, is that although we assume Matt Petgrave, a man has been arrested and charged with
00:37:36.380
manslaughter, manslaughter, you need to remember, doesn't have to be intentional. So in no way does a
00:37:44.600
manslaughter charge imply any kind of guilt on Matt Petgrave's past on his part, it might
00:37:51.640
well, intent, intent. Yeah, no, no, no intent. No, it implies gross negligence, perhaps, but not not
00:37:58.700
intent, which is interesting, of course, because Adam Johnson's own teammates and members of his own
00:38:04.720
family, not not his immediate family, but I think cousins or aunts have said that they don't think it
00:38:11.180
was intentional at all that they just think it's a terrible tragedy and that and that actually Matt
00:38:16.340
Petgrave is being scapegoated. So that's almost that, you know, the focus is actually on the not
00:38:23.300
on the victim, but on the man who actually caused his death. And so when I look at this, and I've also
00:38:30.320
seen statements from people saying that they they viewed this, it looks deliberate, you can look at
00:38:34.400
the history of Matt Petgrave, he's actually one of the most penalized players, he's known as a dirty
00:38:39.920
player, someone who's used these illegal kicks. Before I played hockey, kicking is not something
00:38:45.300
that is taught by coaches or anything like that. But my my more, I guess the deeper question for me
00:38:52.400
here is, it's not so much about okay, it's a contact sport, we understand you consent to a little bit of
00:38:57.440
contact, but no one consents to having their head chopped off while playing a game of hockey. But my
00:39:02.800
bigger question is, what is driving this propagandization, social conditioning of the audience and even
00:39:10.920
driving the media to force a sort of conversation in the opposite direction of what should actually be
00:39:18.340
held here? Why are we told that we're supposed to care about the feelings of the person that committed this
00:39:26.340
Well, I do think I do think on a fundamental level, then this is just about, perhaps about racial conditioning
00:39:34.260
about, about a particular narrative about the relationship between white people and and and people of
00:39:42.320
color. And I, as they're known, you know, and basically, it becomes impossible, or it is becoming more and more
00:39:49.240
impossible to see white people as anything other than perpetrators of hatred and unpleasantness and
00:39:56.260
crimes and black people, people of color as anything other than victims. And it very much looks to me
00:40:01.940
like Matt Petgrave is actually being painted as the as the victim here. So, as I said, Adam Johnson's
00:40:09.540
teammates have come out and said that they that they're against any form of hate on social media
00:40:14.900
against him, and that it's disgusting, and that, you know, it was all unintentional. And it's a dreadful
00:40:19.300
tragedy for him as well. So I think I think that there's a that there is a deeper kind of
00:40:24.820
grievance based racial politics that is that is playing into this. Yeah, I think I think it is
00:40:32.420
just fundamentally an example of that more more than anything else.
00:40:37.300
Well, I think that's exactly right. But I find it so fascinating, because, again, this is an and I
00:40:43.380
lived through and covered in many cases, the 2020 BLM riots, the George Floyd riots, the riots that of course,
00:40:49.580
never took place, that never happened this whole period of history that recent history that we're
00:40:55.740
never allowed to act as if it actually happened. Ghetto riots, of course, in the United States have
00:41:00.940
been a phenomenon that go back to the 60s. And even in some instances prior to that, when you look at
00:41:06.860
Harlem, when you look at the Watts riots, some of these other uprisings that have gone on, we are not
00:41:11.260
told of these things. When we're when we talk in the United States about the 60s, it was this
00:41:15.980
fantastic civil rights era, this was the era when everything was saved. And yet,
00:41:20.060
when we look at the actual situation, the things that are going on on the ground, we find quite
00:41:26.140
different, quite different problems, quite different scenarios continuing, we've got a quick break here,
00:41:31.420
but I want to bring it back with raw egg nationalist after the break, tell you a little bit about what
00:41:36.540
he's working on, and then also explain and unpack this phenomenon.
00:41:39.900
I'm always listening to human events with Jack Posobiec.
00:41:45.980
All right, Jack Posobiec back human events daily final segment, we're talking with raw egg nationalist
00:41:51.500
about this case in the UK, this Matt Petgrave case, which in many ways, I think it gives us a window
00:41:59.020
to understanding how our society works today. And it's through producer fives sent me a note over the
00:42:05.500
break, where he said, once again, we see a situation just in microcosm here, of an aggressor
00:42:12.540
and a victim, where the two sides are flipped, because of the racial element of this. And we see
00:42:20.540
this in George Floyd, we see this with Hamas, we see this in so many cases, where I and which,
00:42:26.060
by the way, and I should egg I should mention there are currently pro Palestinian rioters tearing up the
00:42:32.700
streets of London at this moment. Is that correct? Yes, yeah, the protests in the protests in the UK
00:42:39.660
are ongoing. I mean, they've been huge, unprecedented. And we've seen on social media that pro Palestinian
00:42:46.940
people in the UK, including including sort of, you know, Palestinian settlers in the UK,
00:42:51.900
immigrants to the UK have said, the the the takeover has, the takeover has begun. And you know,
00:42:57.500
they've posted pictures of of bridges in London that are absolutely thronged with with marches.
00:43:03.420
So yes, it's, uh, but I think I think that your producer, they're they're they're they're
00:43:07.820
surrounding Westminster right now. As we speak, they're surrounding it fires, flares, all of it.
00:43:14.460
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, but I think your producer is right about this being a part of a much broader,
00:43:20.540
a much broader phenomenon on the left, where the left has its favored, its favored minorities, or its
00:43:26.540
favored demographics, and it excuses everything that they do in the name of of the leftist cause,
00:43:32.380
all the violence, all of the up to and including murder, of course, uh, and rape, and, um, uh,
00:43:40.460
paints paints, you know, its opponents as as the soul, as the soul sort of, um, uh, force of evil in the world.
00:43:48.220
And it's, uh, it's, it's a consistent thing that we just see again and again and again. We've seen
00:43:52.620
it with Gaza. Uh, we see it with, uh, you know, uh, racial violence in the US and to a lesser extent
00:44:00.460
in the UK and Europe. But we've also seen it, um, we've also seen it in the UK with things like the
00:44:06.460
grooming gangs scandal, for instance, you know, the left, the left has its favored demographics and it
00:44:12.620
will excuse any kind of crime on their part, any kind of, um, um, deliberate ill will of any sort
00:44:19.100
obvious deliberate ill will because, um, because they are the party of, um, truth and virtue and,
00:44:26.540
Yes. Well, and this is, this is an indelible feature of Marxism as well, that you have the
00:44:33.900
oppressor class versus the oppressed class. And so in today's new form of Marxism, which is
00:44:40.700
essentially cultural Marxism, they've switched out the idea of economic classes for essentially
00:44:47.740
racial classes, gender classes. They go so far as to invent their own new gender classes to exist in
00:44:54.860
order to further perpetuate, uh, this form of politics, which of course, then, and, and by the
00:45:01.500
way, and I guess what I'm trying to say is when I look at this standing ovation, when I look at these
00:45:05.740
protests in Westminster, I have to say they've been incredibly successful. And I think that people
00:45:11.500
on the right really, in many cases, right, maybe not the, the right, I should say, but the, the
00:45:16.780
conservative, uh, incorporated establishment, whatever you want to call it, they don't quite understand
00:45:23.020
just how far gone many of the normies are. No, no, they really don't. They really don't. I mean,
00:45:29.820
there was an interesting, there was an interesting piece, uh, by Niall Ferguson about the, um, about
00:45:36.700
the protests, the university protests at Harvard and, and the other Ivy League universities in the US
00:45:42.780
over, over Palestine. And he was saying, you know, how, how did we let woke ideology, um, you know,
00:45:49.820
get this far? How did we let it get this bad without mentioning at all that actually the
00:45:54.380
demographics of American universities have changed tremendously? You know, um, what white
00:46:00.860
American students are now in a minority, especially white, you know, white male American students are
00:46:05.260
now in a minority at the American universities. It's, it's, uh, well, this is the piece that you
00:46:10.780
actually, um, you published or republished your last piece in human events was exactly about this.
00:46:15.420
Yes. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, I mean, there's a, I think there's a deep failure among
00:46:20.780
conic people, neocons, establishment conservatives to understand the true nature of the problem,
00:46:26.700
which is absolutely fundamentally about demographic change. And, uh, they, they just want to talk about
00:46:34.140
ideology. It's as if, as if all that's going wrong at the universities is that they're teaching
00:46:38.860
the wrong stuff. I mean, they are teaching the wrong stuff, of course, but it only has,
00:46:43.020
it only has a fertile ground in the universities because of the way that they've, that they've
00:46:48.620
changed demographically as well, I think. Um, but yeah, there's, there's, there's absolute
00:46:52.940
incomprehension, I think really on the part of establishment conservatives and until they,
00:46:57.660
until they change their tune and actually, you know, wake up and realize what's really going on,
00:47:01.660
then that they're not going to have any significant answer to this problem at all.
00:47:06.460
I do think though, that with particularly not so much the, the, the Matt Petgrave incident,
00:47:12.700
but really with the Palestinian protests, uprisings, whatever you want to call them,
00:47:19.340
we really do seem, and here in the United States, there's been some studies coming out showing
00:47:23.580
that many, in many cases, these are people who are here on visas, they're on student visas,
00:47:28.780
children, migrants, this sort of thing, where suddenly there's an opening. We may actually have a
00:47:34.700
brief window into actually discussing these types of things. And president Trump, of course,
00:47:40.380
is driving like a tank directly through that opening to say, this is why we want mass deportations.
00:47:48.620
This is why we want extreme vetting. This is why we want certain countries banned. This is the reason
00:47:54.060
why. And suddenly there are people watching these images and we're playing it right now on the screen.
00:47:59.340
Suddenly there's people in positions of real power that are waking up to it.
00:48:03.180
Yeah, this is a, this is a, this is a golden opportunity, dare I say it, for us actually to
00:48:10.700
put mass immigration, the effects of mass immigration and demographic change back on the
00:48:15.260
agenda in a way that they probably wouldn't have been. And I think that the right really does need
00:48:20.780
to seize on this. And I've, I've talked about this. I wrote a piece for American mind about this.
00:48:25.260
Um, you know, this is a, this is a golden opportunity for, uh, a truly, a truly conservative,
00:48:32.220
truly right agenda actually to come to the fore. And, uh, I, you know, it's, it's good that the
00:48:38.060
president Trump has been talking about all of this and leading the way, talking about mass deportation,
00:48:43.420
saying that it will be the first thing, you know, that he does when he comes to power will be to begin
00:48:48.220
the process of mass deportations. And that's exactly what we need.
00:48:53.740
Hey, we're just about out of time real quick. Where can people go to get your, uh, schizophrenic
00:48:59.180
writings and musings as well as your Western podcasts?
00:49:02.220
So, uh, baby gravy nine on Twitter. I have a sub stack raw egg nationalist dot sub stack.com.
00:49:09.580
Uh, my magazine man's world is man's world mag dot online.
00:49:15.340
All right, folks, go check him out. Rog nationalists is doing a lot of stuff. I wasn't kidding by the
00:49:19.420
way about his Western podcast. He actually has a radio drama, but folks remember we are now under the
00:49:26.540
boot, the heel of the Chinese emperor, the red dragon. May he reign supreme. And maybe,
00:49:34.140
just maybe there's one person who's willing to stand up. Ladies and gentlemen, as always,