EPISODE 623： TRUMP AND THE GATHERING OF THE MACEDONIANS
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Jack Posobiec is joined by Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Donald Trump Jr., Steve Bannon, Roseanne Barr, and so many more at this year s Turning Point America Fest, December 16th-19th, 2023 in Phoenix Arizona.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we know Christmas is coming, but before Christmas, the gathering
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Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, myself, Donald Trump Jr., Steve Bannon, Roseanne Barr.
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Rob Schneider, James Lindsay, and so many more are going to be at this year's Turning
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Point America Fest, December 16th to 19th, 2023, Phoenix, Arizona.
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Don't come crying to me when this thing is sold out like it does every single year.
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This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
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A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
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This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
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Affiliated with China's People's Liberation Army have infiltrated critical services here in the U.S.
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This infiltration appears to be part of a broader effort to insert chaos into our logistical systems.
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The information collected could then be weaponized if the U.S. and China were to become engaged directly in the Pacific.
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An independent bank auditor, basically a watchdog within the bank, J.P. Morgan, Wells Fargo, people who just work there, that's what they do every day for a job.
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They flagged payments from China to Hunter a number of times, saying they were suspicious, that they didn't match up for potential services that were offered.
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In fact, there was one internal bank employee that even flagged something as possible human trafficking payments.
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These are not the photographs or video from last week's migrant crossing.
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Baker today in The New York Times, he said that I want to be a dictator.
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But The New York Times said, and you know why I wanted to be a dictator?
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I want a wall, and I want to drill, drill, drill.
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The X platform will aspire to be as neutral as possible, and to be as open and transparent as possible, I think we will achieve maximum transparency.
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I think we'll be fully transparent, hopefully by early next year.
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I'm confident we'll be fully transparent by the time there is an election next year.
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So basically people will just see anything that is happening on the system, and nothing will be hidden.
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If those agencies, though, the FBI, the DHS, et cetera, if they reach out to X, I believe they called it defensive briefings in 2020, if they started reaching out again, would that be something that you would consider making public?
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We will be as transparent as possible, and frankly, if I think a government agency is breaking the law in their demands on the platform, I would be prepared to go to prison personally if I think they are the ones breaking the law.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily, live from Washington, D.C.
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You just heard me there, impromptu interview yesterday on the X platform with Elon Musk, the CEO of X.com, asking him directly, if the FBI comes to you and asks you to censor legal content, legal content, what would you do?
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He first told me that he would fight it in court, and then he said he would be transparent about it.
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Exclusively, that he would be willing to personally go to prison rather than take down legal content in the middle of a contentious election.
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Because that's what they did to us when we broke the Hunter Biden laptop in October of 2020.
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They write up the story, and then boom, it gets censored everywhere.
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So if they don't have the ability to control the process of information anymore,
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if they don't have the ability to control the distribution of information,
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and we have the ability to speak and think freely and present true information,
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the richest man in the world willing to go to jail in the name of the truth.
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And the head of Ukraine is now here addressing the U.S. military.
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We're going to talk about that later with Tony Schaefer.
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We're going to talk about Trump and the meeting of the Macedonians in New York this weekend.
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He's fighting for his life on four separate trials.
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And don't think for a second that this regime would not be willing to take him out with a bullet if they had to.
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That's why his security over the next 10 months needs to be absolutely paramount.
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Because they will try to take him out one way or the other.
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You want to talk about standing up and fighting?
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The same way that President Trump was willing to take down the Bush dynasty and the Clinton dynasty.
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And he did it because he cares about our country.
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Regardless of what the consequences for himself are, he's willing to walk into that fire.
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Are you going to have your name be put on those scrolls?
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Because I'm telling you, the time for choosing is rapidly approaching.
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I want to talk about another facility or another gathering, if you call it that,
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And this was the soiree, the black-tie soiree, that turned into something a little bit more than just all that.
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In New York City, this last weekend, myself, Tanya Tay attended.
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All the top names, all the top generals, the top lieutenants.
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And the man who put it all together joins us now, Gavin Wax, the president of the New York Young Republican Club.
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Gavin, how did it feel to be up there that night?
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It was probably going to go down in history as an event for the books.
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And I was just an honor to be a part of it all.
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You know, the orchestral music in the background, the light show, you know, President Trump, you know,
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entering into a thousand-plus people in the largest ballroom in the city of New York to, you know,
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I mean, you really can't get much better than this.
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I think as far as conservative events go, as far as Republican events go, I mean, this set the bar in terms of the quality.
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Gavin, that ballroom, Cipriani's, you mentioned something on stage that this played a very pivotal role in the 2016 election, did it not?
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This was the site of the infamous basket of deplorables comment from Hillary Rodham Clinton at the very stage that Trump spoke on,
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that I spoke on, in the very ballroom we were all gathered in.
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And that's where she addressed her own thousand supporters and made that comment about them being,
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about Trump supporters all being deplorables or half of them fitting in this basket of deplorables.
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We were reconquering, you know, sacred ground for Clinton, for the Clinton campaign, for the left, for the institutional left, the Dems.
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In a way, we were in a venue that they have used pretty often, and we made our own voices be heard as the deplorables we are.
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So I'm sure she was not too thrilled to see it, if she did see it.
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We have taken their temple, and we have rechristened it to ours and made in our own image.
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It's symbolic because their world is dying, where our world is just beginning.
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And look, I said this on War Room this morning when you and I were both on,
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but, you know, when Alexander, right before the invasion of Persia,
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he held a massive banquet for all of his generals, all of his lieutenants.
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And it's written, and Homer and others wrote, that Alexander said,
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And that's exactly how I felt that night, that this was the final gathering.
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And you could tell that President Trump felt that way when he got up there.
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I'll never be able to get all the names, right?
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But everyone who was a major force in this movement who understands that this is a movement
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for taking back our country, and then I spoke with Elon Musk yesterday about how this is really
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a movement to actually advance and expand the human race itself through actual advancement
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of our civilization into a multi-planetary species that we need to get back on track.
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Who better to do that, by the way, than the man who founded the space force itself?
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And Gavin, there's a question, though, that Governor DeSantis brought up last night.
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And Trump made this, you know, he told an anecdote of what it was like going up against
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the Clintons and the threat that he faced in doing so.
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And a general had said to him that, you know, this is braver than anything I've ever seen,
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and I've been in combat, is basically what the anecdote was.
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And Governor DeSantis claims that Trump is a coward, and he claims that Trump is just
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doing this out of, I don't know, ego and pride and all of this.
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Does he not understand the sacrifices that Trump is making in order to do this?
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And by the way, this was the very content of your speech itself when you introduced him.
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I mean, listen, I think DeSantis and his supporters and his surrogates, they fall into this camp
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I mean, they take everything Trump says literally.
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He'd be talking in anecdotes, he'd be talking lightly off the cuff, making a joke, and they
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They screech like leftists, and they make all these sort of literalists type of analysis
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But then they also ignore the most obvious truths, the most obvious things that are in
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front of us, which is the fact that President Trump did sacrifice quite a good life that
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he had to fight for us, and that his whole life has changed.
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He's facing jail time, being thrown behind bars for fighting for us and enacting on his
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And Ron DeSantis then takes Lincoln Project-style talking points to attack him.
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There were plenty of people who have served, including yourself.
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And I don't think anyone, and you correct me if I'm wrong, took anything that the president
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It was an anecdote, and he was talking off the cuff, and he was speaking to people at
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their levels, speaking to them one-on-one almost.
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That's why people love him, because he's authentic.
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He's not this orchestrated, consultant-driven, consultant-approved candidate.
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No person in the room took it the way that Ron DeSantis took it, right?
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And that's maybe probably why Ron DeSantis wasn't in the room himself, okay?
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Because he doesn't understand how any of this works and doesn't understand that he would
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not be governor were it not for the grace of President Donald John Trump putting him
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in that governor's office, and those of us, by the way, that fought for his election to
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be certified when Broward County was trying to steal it in 2018.
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I think he forgets that it was MAGA that showed up to fight that steal that was going on in
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And many of the people that he has denigrated now were the very ones who made sure to ensure
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And it's, I think they don't understand the concept of bravery.
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They continually, continually downplay President Trump's bravery because we all know, and I
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said in the opening today, they don't just threaten him with jail time.
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They want to personally take him out with a bullet if they could.
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They'd be more than happy if someone went full Lee Harvey Oswald or let's just say full
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The idea to say that he's not brave for doing what he's doing, I think, is completely infuriating.
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These people think that it's 2012 and they discount and possibly don't even understand
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the very concept of bravery because they've never felt it in their entire lives.
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I mean, it's coming to the point now that the indictments aren't working, the civil suits
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aren't working, you know, the media lies have never worked.
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And, you know, it makes you think what is next in the cards.
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And I think, you know, working with Secret Service for this event, being in the heart
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of Manhattan, the heart of New York City, a thousand people there.
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I mean, it's certainly on the mind of everybody.
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Something could have, something terrible could have gone wrong.
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And he walked into a room, he sat down in a crowd of a thousand people for dinner.
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He could have came and went, he could have rushed the stage and rushed right off.
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I think the Ron DeSantis camp, they don't understand bravery.
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And bravery also means taking political, political bravery.
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They've never taken a political stance that wasn't already, you know, hitting the popularity
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I mean, President Trump has been consistently talking about the denigration of this country,
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about the decline of this country, going back to the 80s and even 70s when things were generally
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He was talking about the trade imbalances then.
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He was talking about how we spend money overseas on other countries' defense, get nothing in
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He was talking about a whole litany of issues that he still talks about today.
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And it wasn't popular to talk about it 30 years ago.
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People probably would have looked at him like he was crazy when he brought up a lot of these
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topics because back then it wasn't really in vogue.
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And Ron DeSantis has never been ahead of any issue.
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Ron DeSantis chases everything that President Trump has either started to talk about or
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Well, Gavin, to throw it out there right before we go to the break here, you know what else
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Bravery is when I remember when you called me up when President Trump was indicted and
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We are going to be out there in front of the Manhattan courthouse.
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Everybody said they were going to take a shot at us.
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Everybody said it's going to be mayhem because there had not been a public display like
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that for Donald Trump outside of the rallies since January 6th.
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And they said everything was going to happen to us.
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And I think that was one of the main reasons that the president showed up to our gala this
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The concept of loyalty and the concept of bravery.
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These are fundamental concepts that have been completely lost to the con ink, to the conservative
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We find ourselves forced to restore them to the American body public the same way that
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Thank you for making myself and Tanya Tay a huge part of this.
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But the theme, I think, of the night, other than the incredible optics, other than the
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incredible music, because the understanding of the gravity, I really do think that the
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theme of the night was loyalty, was loyalty and then coupled with bravery because our,
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you know, we didn't realize it, but our bravery apparently was being challenged.
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So walk us through why is it that bravery and loyalty have been so discounted in the American
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ruling class establishment and why it is so incumbent on us that we are forced to bring
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Listen, loyalty is a concept that transcends politics.
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I think the average Joe Schmo, he understands loyalty.
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He's felt he or she has felt loyalty, has felt disloyalty, has experienced it at work
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and personalized the relationships, you name it.
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And I think this shows the brilliance of President Trump that he made a central focus of his re-election
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campaign and also a central focus of his offenses against his primary opponents, many of whom
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And they should be showing loyalty to him for all the things that he did to make their political
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And many people told President Trump, oh, who cares about this?
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This isn't a topic that gets people, you know, riled up.
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And they relate to President Trump in a way that no other politician or elected official
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has ever been able to generate that sort of relationship between the voter and themselves.
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He's been able to personalize, you know, his struggle, his issues, his political, you know,
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That's why they that's why he's up by 60 points in the Republican primary.
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That's why he's up in all these swing states by close to double digits.
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That's why he's probably going to take back the White House, because people understand
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And they understand that people like Ron DeSantis are snakes.
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They understand that people like Nikki Haley are cowards and they're actually disloyal.
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And that that old mode of politics is dead and dying.
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People are not going to fall for that schtick and charade anymore.
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They do not like the over orchestrated, you know, over practiced, you know, consultant
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It's it's there's and there's also the ultimate loyalty.
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The ultimate loyalty of all of any leader is loyalty to the people, loyalty to the American
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And President Trump would be sitting down at Mar-a-Lago hanging out with Melania if we
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were not in the situation where the government we were living under a government with a uniparty
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that stopped being loyal to the American people.
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We are forced to retake that government and we are forced to come into power.
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And we are will be forced to go into Washington, D.C. and go into the swamp and go into the
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And we will take every single one of these individuals and hold them accountable and teaches
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them, teach them what happens when they are disloyal to the American people.
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We will teach them what happens when you do not put America first.
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We will teach you that this is not something that we want to do.
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This is not something that we are desiring to do.
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I would much rather be doing other things with my time, but I will not sit back and let my
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country be controlled by these disloyal snakes for a second longer.
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And this is why when you talk to a DeSantis type and they don't understand what you look
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at the Des Moines Register poll this morning, Des Moines, this is the gold standard of gold
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They understand Iowa better than anyone on the face of the planet.
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They just said that Donald Trump is up over 50 percent in the Iowa primary.
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Why would a New York billionaire, right, be a guy who's the favored of the of the, you
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know, the evangelicals and the social conservatives and the farmers?
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And it's quite simple because he's loyal to them because he fought for them against communist
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Listen, I think these are people that have been, you know, bred in an environment of political,
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These are people that don't come from the private sector.
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They come from this sort of feeder system, this junior league political hierarchy where
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they move up to the next level by backstabbing the guy that was in front of them.
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And they just do that repeatedly until they finally make it to an elected office.
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And then they get there and they finally realize, wait, all this Machiavellian backstabbing
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and betrayals and disloyalty and dishonesty and all these traits that they used and all
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these sins that they used to advance themselves don't really play well with the people who
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now have a front and center stage to really observe them, to really understand them in
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We've talked about this, you know, radio versus television.
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Now, all of a sudden, all these politicians that were able to hide a lot of their worst
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flaws and a lot of their worst, you know, character traits, all of a sudden now they're
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under a magnifying glass because of things like social media.
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And people see right through them now and they don't relate to them and they don't, they
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And they will take the New York billionaire any day because he's not trying to pretend
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That's what he, that's what he presents himself as.
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He's not trying to wear cowboy boots and pretend he's a cowboy.
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He's just trying to tell you, this is who I am.
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You mentioned that evening that the MAGA movement is a New York movement and that you
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can't fundamentally understand the MAGA movement unless you understand New York.
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Listen, Trump, President Trump, like myself, is a guy from Queens.
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You know, he has an outer borough sort of vibe to him.
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He calls, you know, he calls it like he sees it.
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But if you're his enemy, he's going to destroy you.
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He's going to come after you and you're his enemy for life.
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It's a very New York sort of hustle and bustle New York brawler.
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And that's the kind of guy we need for this time.
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We don't need someone who just wants to go along to get along.
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We need a guy who's going to go in there and, you know, be ready to use his knuckles.
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We need a we need a bare knuckle boxer right now.
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I think a man from Queens, a New Yorker is the guy to do it.
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And he is not going to be, you know, you know, scared from all from all that's in front of him.
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And he's still able to get on stage, joke, dance, smile like he has no problems in the world.
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That's something that, you know, he was born with, that he grew up with.
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It took a lifetime to develop through all his experiences.
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And a typical, you know, run of the mill politician like Ron DeSantis will never have that.
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He'll never have that character, that force of character, that gusto.
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He doesn't have that, you know, je ne sais quoi.
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You know, when he's sitting next to you at the table, you know, he is the energy.
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You know, there was another thing that President Trump said that the entire media lost their minds over.
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And, you know, he mentioned it recently on an interview.
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And I'm not going to ask about the specific rhetoric, you know, that they want to play these games around.
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We could solve all the problems in this country in a 24-hour period, couldn't we, Gavin?
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And listen, my only criticism of Trump is I think he's undercutting himself.
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I think he should get at least 72 hours as a dictator.
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I think by then he's setting the stage for his whole term in the next generation or so to fix these problems.
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But all joking aside, I mean, you know, we do need true leadership.
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We need a person who is able to effectuate his political mandate.
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He was prevented from doing so by the deep state, by the establishment, by his own party, by Congress, by many people that staff the administration of state.
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I think the movement is really coming into its own.
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And I think if he takes the reins once again in the White House, we're going to see, you know, an American national renewal like we've never seen before.
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I mean, don't listen to what the DeSantis losers are saying.
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Just listen to what the left and the opposition are saying.
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They know that guy's going to sell out, you know, as fast as soon as he gets into office, if he ever does.
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But I'm just speaking hypothetically here for a second, Jack.
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But, you know, President Trump gets back into office.
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You know, everyone, everyone is terrified of that because they know what's coming.
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They know we're going to bring about, you know, a reversal of the decline, the managed decline of this country that has been going on for generations.
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And President Trump has been calling that out for many decades.
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And it's going to be it's going to be Make America Great Again 2.0.
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The 2016 energy is back in the air, especially after Sunday, after Saturday night.
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So I guess I could say Saturday and Sunday night.
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You may not like it, but I'll tell you right now, we could set it all right.
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We have now this huge situation where a surprise visit to the United States
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and a surprise visit and address directly to the United States military.
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fresh off the heels of going toe-to-toe with Viktor Orban down in Argentina
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at the inauguration of Miele, which was yesterday.
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He flies up to D.C., and now he's going to go to our military to call for a wider war with Russia.
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This is the play to extend the Russia war, to extend this.
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They want total control and domination over Moscow.
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And I said this morning on War Room, I'll say it again here,
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Because if he cannot get, if he cannot get the Republicans to come out
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and drop the opposition to Ukraine aid over the border money,
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over aid for the border, funding for the border,
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Because the Azov Battalion and the other forces back home,
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they say, look, if you can't be our hero, we're going to turn you into our martyr.
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So I've said, and I'll just say here briefly again,
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Zelensky, if you want another choice, there's another option.
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March yourself over to Speaker Johnson's office.
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Get you a place down in Brighton Beach, Sunny Isle,
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Tony Schaefer, Lieutenant Colonel, is our guest.
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it seems to me that the ball is not in Kiev's court.
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our discussion on this has been very clear and steely-eyed.
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no matter how you want to label with the Russian effort.
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That there's no way that they're going to prevail.
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regarding their resumption of offensive operations?