Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - April 29, 2024


EPISODE 724: 2024 THE OPERATIONAL ELECTION - GROUND GAME NOW MATTERS MORE THAN ISSUES


Episode Stats

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49 minutes

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174.92604

Word Count

8,594

Sentence Count

448

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

A new CNN poll shows Donald Trump maintaining his lead over Vice President Joe Biden among registered voters. Pro-Palestinian and pro-Israel protesters clash at U.S. universities across the country. President Trump continues to gain ground on Biden in the polls, despite spending much of his time in a New York courtroom.


Transcript

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00:00:22.960 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:00:35.880 A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:42.600 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:00:45.540 Deliver us from evil.
00:00:47.260 UCLA was one of the latest flashpoints between pro-Palestinian and pro-Israeli demonstrators.
00:00:58.280 Dozens clashed Sunday after a security barrier was breached.
00:01:02.480 Physical altercations took place.
00:01:04.680 Following the skirmishes, UCLA officials moved to drastically reinforce the barricades and railings.
00:01:10.380 Across the country, authorities detained 100 people at Northeastern University in Boston.
00:01:18.540 Pro-Palestinian student demonstrators are calling for their schools to divest from companies that do business with Israel.
00:01:25.460 The criminal case against Donald Trump for trying to reverse the last election on the rocks.
00:01:30.560 The government aiming to show Mr. Trump cannot be immune from federal charges for his actions leading up to January 6th simply because he was still president at the time.
00:01:40.580 The conservative justices skeptical presidents don't need some protection.
00:01:45.000 The president's 2025 budget proposal plans to raise the capital gains tax rate to 44.6 percent.
00:01:53.340 Big sigh from Grover.
00:01:55.080 That's the highest rate since its creation in 1922.
00:02:00.820 That higher capital gains tax, China's at 20 percent.
00:02:04.180 He wants America at 44.6 percent.
00:02:07.140 Americans don't assess the economy through the economic indicators and data that we all report on constantly.
00:02:14.500 They assess it through how they feel about it.
00:02:16.320 Thirty-four percent currently approve of Biden's handling of the economy.
00:02:21.380 So significantly lower than his overall job approval.
00:02:24.720 Sixty-six percent disapprove.
00:02:26.840 Donald Trump is spending hours each day in a New York courtroom in his criminal hush money trial.
00:02:32.200 But on the campaign trail, a brand new CNN poll out this morning shows Trump sustaining his lead over President Biden among registered voters.
00:02:40.560 Forty-nine to forty-three percent.
00:02:42.820 With more saying they considered Trump's presidency a success than Biden's.
00:02:47.260 Biden's folks don't want him to debate.
00:02:49.020 They don't want to give Trump that platform and risk exposing Biden like that on national TV.
00:02:54.420 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:02:58.360 We are live from Madrid, Spain today.
00:03:01.720 We've got a little bit going on over here.
00:03:03.960 We'll tell you about that later in the week.
00:03:07.160 Today is April 29th, 2024.
00:03:09.800 Anno Domini.
00:03:10.900 I want to talk to you about what's going on today.
00:03:13.500 What we're currently facing is the operational election.
00:03:18.340 Operational election.
00:03:19.380 CNN had a big freak out over the weekend because Donald Trump bested Joe Biden in their national head-to-head poll.
00:03:26.980 He also bested Joe Biden when they added in third parties.
00:03:30.960 In fact, when they added in third parties, Trump actually went up almost nine points higher.
00:03:36.480 Then if you go to RCP, the Real Clear Politics swing state average has Trump up in every single swing state, including 4.8 percent in Nevada, the state of Nevada, which Donald Trump has never actually won.
00:03:48.900 State that Republicans get close to winning very often but don't ever seem to take home.
00:03:54.640 He's up 4.8 percent, almost five points there.
00:03:58.120 The problem is, do the polls matter?
00:04:00.420 Do the issues matter?
00:04:02.940 This is a beyond-politics election.
00:04:05.960 I said this this morning on War Room.
00:04:07.620 What does that mean?
00:04:09.000 Beyond-politics means we are in an operational election.
00:04:13.460 This election will not be won on the issues.
00:04:16.660 It will, but in a different way.
00:04:18.960 This isn't an election about just beating your opponent on the issues.
00:04:23.020 This is an election about driving your voters out to the polls, and more so than driving them out, it's actually getting them out to vote in terms of early voting and ballots.
00:04:36.800 Currently, we are not seeing the Trump campaign and the RNC fielding offices in the swing states, in the battleground states.
00:04:45.840 Understand, Donald Trump has been forced off of the campaign trail by state force.
00:04:53.940 They have removed him from the ability to be barnstorming the nation.
00:04:58.080 That's why he wasn't in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania last week on Election Day.
00:05:01.480 That's why he can't be there.
00:05:02.660 So there's two pieces to this.
00:05:04.260 There's two pieces.
00:05:04.940 Number one, that's why you need to make a plan and make sure at least three of your friends and family need to make a plan to be voting early because you never know where he could be on Election Day.
00:05:15.360 Who knows, like Donald Trump, you could be in court or the second piece of this is that it is incumbent while Donald Trump is on court.
00:05:23.760 They must, must, must have these field offices up and running and this early get out the vote, get out the early vote campaign up in every single one of these battleground states.
00:05:35.220 The Democrats already have their out banking votes.
00:05:38.120 Joe Biden is desperate.
00:05:39.440 That's why you're seeing him throw out all of these, you know, it's not red meat, it's blue meat, the capital gains, 44%, the Title IX junk.
00:05:48.260 That's why he's going to the far left.
00:05:50.140 But at the end of the day, folks, if we don't have those field offices and this ground game, we lose.
00:05:56.120 It's incumbent upon us to begin the operations, not in June, but right now, right now, where everything that we are fighting for goes down the drain.
00:06:07.360 Stay tuned and be right back.
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00:06:36.220 All right, Jack Posobiec back here, live Madrid, Spain.
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00:08:34.700 Folks, it's simple.
00:08:36.340 It's very simple.
00:08:38.520 Complacency right now is the enemy.
00:08:42.020 Complacency will lead to the demise of the republic.
00:08:48.100 Where are the offices?
00:08:50.960 Where are the offices in these swing states and battleground states?
00:08:56.340 That's the bottom question that you need to be asking the bottom line up front.
00:09:00.300 Don't come to me and ask about this issue, that issue, this thing, that thing.
00:09:03.020 No.
00:09:03.340 Where are the offices?
00:09:04.900 Where are the operations?
00:09:06.340 Where's the ground game?
00:09:07.520 People come and say, oh, what about this?
00:09:09.120 What about that?
00:09:09.680 Biden said that.
00:09:10.340 No, no, no, no, no.
00:09:10.860 I don't want to hear the day-to-day outrage.
00:09:13.180 I want to hear where are the operations.
00:09:15.260 And that's why today we're bringing on somebody who directly focuses on operations, not just
00:09:22.820 inside the United States, where he does do a lot of fighting, but also outside the United
00:09:27.960 States.
00:09:28.540 Now, of course, I myself am in Madrid, Spain.
00:09:31.120 My guest is coming to us from Paris, France, right next door to myself here.
00:09:36.540 And his name is Marc Avano.
00:09:38.240 He is the executive director of Republicans for National Renewal.
00:09:42.520 But of course, he hails originally from the proud and great state of Texas.
00:09:46.640 Marc, how are you?
00:09:48.300 Hey, Jack.
00:09:48.940 Doing well.
00:09:49.360 I appreciate the nice introduction.
00:09:50.480 So I had this statement in my speech.
00:09:56.580 You and I just did CPAC Hungary, and then we went over and did Make Europe Great Again,
00:10:01.340 the megaconference in Romania.
00:10:03.740 You're in France.
00:10:04.560 I'm over in Madrid working with some of the local right-wing parties here.
00:10:10.100 And so what I said in both of those speeches is in order to properly fight globalism, because
00:10:16.700 it is a global system, the irony is that we need to build an international alliance of
00:10:22.200 anti-globalists.
00:10:23.900 And that's what we've become, an international alliance of anti-globalists.
00:10:29.060 And so what do you say to folks when they sort of say, wait a minute, if we're fighting
00:10:35.780 for America first, then why is it that you're gallivanting around Europe?
00:10:42.840 Right.
00:10:43.520 Well, Jack, it was quite the honor, as I'm sure you'd agree, that we were in Budapest,
00:10:48.240 Hungary, meeting with Prime Minister Viktor Orban, who really has kind of made that country,
00:10:54.780 Hungary, a beacon of hope for national populace or true conservatives, whatever you want to
00:11:00.880 call them.
00:11:01.620 I know there's different terms used in different countries.
00:11:04.160 But as far as this issue where, oh, you're America first, but you're also gallivanting in
00:11:08.920 different countries and talking to foreign leaders.
00:11:11.100 Well, people who are aware of the issues, they know that the left is not just the left
00:11:17.500 of the United States.
00:11:18.680 It's the global left.
00:11:20.020 They have a lot of resources.
00:11:22.120 They have a lot of power.
00:11:23.260 They have a lot of influence.
00:11:24.500 They've been networking for many years, well before conservatives have been getting together.
00:11:29.060 The one thing they don't have is the support of the people of every respective country.
00:11:33.360 And so they have to rely on pouring in millions of dollars into propaganda campaigns or just
00:11:39.940 using their influence.
00:11:41.360 But conservatives, we've been fractioned, right?
00:11:44.280 We even here in Europe, I'm sure you talk to some people, they'll say, well, this other
00:11:49.300 country, even though they have a conservative leader, we have a bad history with them.
00:11:52.920 And so we can't really work with them.
00:11:55.360 Or, you know, 50 years ago, they did something that we didn't like.
00:11:58.360 And so now we can't work with them.
00:12:00.000 And maybe that's a legitimate concern and a legitimate reason to not want to work with
00:12:04.240 somebody.
00:12:04.540 But when the stakes are so high, where you're fighting, it's this globalist tyranny.
00:12:09.240 You have to work together.
00:12:10.960 And so we're not for globalism, but we are for global cooperation, uniting with our allies
00:12:16.940 who are ideologically aligned with us.
00:12:19.140 And frankly, you're fighting a lot of the same issues.
00:12:21.700 I know we've brought over some members of European Parliament to some of our events with
00:12:26.300 Republicans for National Renewal and had panels.
00:12:28.940 And they'll explain to the audience, our American audience, what kind of issues they're
00:12:32.840 facing in their country.
00:12:34.000 So they're being told things like, well, you're from Sweden, but you have no culture.
00:12:39.180 You should be happy to welcome people from Afghanistan or Africa, the Middle East in
00:12:44.440 general.
00:12:45.720 And, you know, forget your culture.
00:12:48.060 You don't really have one.
00:12:49.920 Right.
00:12:51.720 But there's no culture.
00:12:53.520 Right.
00:12:53.700 Our American audience, their jaws drop.
00:12:55.600 And they say, wow, that's insane to hear that, especially from a European country like
00:13:00.640 Sweden, feminism is pushed very hard there, too.
00:13:03.480 And so I think once Americans also realize that we're not just on an island upon ourselves
00:13:08.300 fighting one enemy, we're fighting the same enemy as the Europeans and so and across the
00:13:13.260 world, frankly.
00:13:13.980 So definitely if we're going to actually launch an offensive against the left, we have to
00:13:19.860 cooperate.
00:13:20.340 Otherwise, we'll continue to be on the defensive and stepping back instead of stepping forward.
00:13:24.560 Couldn't agree more.
00:13:25.440 And in fact, so you and I actually had the opportunity, along with our colleague Gavin
00:13:29.300 Wax, to speak directly to Prime Minister Orban there at that off the record.
00:13:34.080 Since it was off the record, we don't really need to talk about everything that we said,
00:13:37.800 though I will say that from a lot of people in the in the European sphere, particularly
00:13:44.180 Viktor Orban, who's been so successful, he's given us a way to show us the playbook of
00:13:51.000 how to fight the left and win.
00:13:52.500 People don't want to put it together.
00:13:54.020 Hungary is the country that George Soros originated from.
00:13:59.300 How did Viktor Orban originally become so popular and so strong in Hungary?
00:14:04.280 He ran George Soros and his operations out of the country, and he did so without remorse.
00:14:10.160 He did so without apologizing to the left.
00:14:12.980 He destroyed left.
00:14:14.220 This is the guy who beat Soros in his home country, and they were sort of both vying for
00:14:19.280 power in Hungary, and Orban was able to rally the people to his side and get get Soros out
00:14:25.560 of there.
00:14:25.900 So this guy's already beaten Soros once.
00:14:27.840 Why would you not want to talk to a guy who's already done that?
00:14:30.580 Number two, he also showed us the way to reorient nationalist populism so that it's not
00:14:38.620 necessarily something where people will say, oh, you're just anti-immigrant, you're anti-welcoming.
00:14:45.080 And what Orban did, I think that was so smart and continues to do, was to reorient the entire
00:14:50.660 framework of speaking around the idea of family, around the idea of we support our families.
00:14:58.540 Now, that means, of course, on a direct level, on the surface level, saying we are going
00:15:04.720 to support people having more families, using economic incentives for this, but then also
00:15:08.500 that you defend your country the way you would defend your family.
00:15:12.520 And so the leader becomes the defender of the country because they're defending their
00:15:17.540 family.
00:15:17.920 The same way I would do anything to defend my family, I would defend my family up to and
00:15:21.800 including my own life.
00:15:23.300 There's no question about what I would do to defend my family because I love my family.
00:15:27.880 And so this is a complete spin on the way the conservatives, I think, have interacted
00:15:35.000 with voters in the past.
00:15:37.220 And, you know, Tanya Tay had a tweet that went pretty viral because every time we go to
00:15:42.300 Budapest, you walk around, there's playgrounds everywhere, there's free strollers in the
00:15:47.480 airport, there's incentives.
00:15:49.820 It is just a family-friendly and specifically child-friendly city.
00:15:53.860 And so when people go and try to paint him as this, like, you know, autocratic tyrant,
00:15:59.200 you go to Budapest and you see families walking around with like five, six kids and they're
00:16:03.220 all going to the playground.
00:16:04.160 You're like, wait, this is what a, you know, a tyrannical autocracy is like.
00:16:09.500 It seems kind of nice.
00:16:11.940 Yeah, that's right.
00:16:12.700 So it's very interesting to me whenever, you know, I'm sure your audience has heard the
00:16:17.980 argument we have with the communist types, we ask them, where has communism ever been
00:16:23.560 implemented and been successful?
00:16:25.860 And of course, you get a bunch of him and ha and real communism has never been implemented.
00:16:30.680 They just messed up in all these other countries where communism brought all kinds of destruction
00:16:35.040 and ruin.
00:16:36.100 It just hasn't really been implemented properly.
00:16:38.040 But one question we never get is, well, where has national populism been implemented and
00:16:43.600 been successful?
00:16:44.840 Well, I think we both know why, because there's several examples of that.
00:16:48.480 And I think Hungary is probably one of the best examples.
00:16:51.620 Like you said, you go there and it's a beautiful, beautiful country to go to.
00:16:55.340 And even their capital city and all across the West, most capital cities are dirty, high
00:17:00.940 crime, very multicultural societies.
00:17:04.320 You barely see any of the natives around there.
00:17:06.440 Hungary is a very nice exception, where you have actual Hungarians living there.
00:17:11.520 You have their culture preserved.
00:17:13.700 And again, it's safe, whether you're walking around at two in the morning, 10 in the morning.
00:17:17.460 It doesn't matter.
00:17:18.640 It's just a safe, clean place to be.
00:17:20.780 And that's their capital city.
00:17:22.240 I wasn't walking around at two and three in the morning.
00:17:25.140 What were you up to at two in the morning, walking around Budapest, going around with Gavin
00:17:28.860 Wax?
00:17:29.380 Not that I was, but if anyone were to ask me, I plead the fifth.
00:17:33.800 But the way I've been told, and so I've heard, that it's a very safe place to walk around
00:17:40.760 at any time of the day or night.
00:17:42.800 Let's just say that Gavin and his friends conducted a few extracurricular activities in the evenings,
00:17:50.660 and they had a great time in Budapest.
00:17:52.600 I was in, I'm not going to say I was there myself, because I was hanging out with the
00:17:56.380 lovely and beautiful Tanya Tay, who's just sitting over there.
00:17:59.180 But I was in group chat, and I got to see some videos.
00:18:01.840 We've got a quick break coming out here.
00:18:03.420 And look, folks, that's what it's all about.
00:18:05.580 The Urbans, the Millais, the Bukeles.
00:18:09.440 This is how you take your country back.
00:18:11.580 You make it safe.
00:18:12.280 You make it fun.
00:18:13.240 You make it a great place to live.
00:18:15.100 That's why people want to go there.
00:18:16.460 So we'll be right back.
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00:18:31.340 I want to know the truth, what really went down.
00:18:34.640 So I'm jumping on my computer, going to pre-order town.
00:18:39.920 Pre-order in life, human.
00:18:41.980 All right, Jack Posobiec back live.
00:18:47.020 Human Events Daily, Madrid, Spain, here with the lovely and beautiful, talented Tanya Tay,
00:18:51.280 meeting some brave and strong Spanish patriots and talking about the way forward.
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00:19:58.960 So, Mark, I've got an interesting story slash question.
00:20:01.640 We're speaking with Mark Evano from the Republicans for National Review.
00:20:05.060 He is the executive director.
00:20:07.300 And he and I have both conducted these conferences here in over in Budapest, as well as in Bucharest.
00:20:13.660 So Hungary and Romania.
00:20:14.760 And, Mark, really interesting is because people kept asking me.
00:20:18.060 They didn't.
00:20:19.200 No one asked me, can Trump beat Biden?
00:20:21.800 Right.
00:20:22.000 That's normally the question you would get in a election season when you're when you're overseas
00:20:26.640 or talking to someone overseas.
00:20:27.960 Can Trump beat Biden?
00:20:28.940 That's not what they said, especially in Romania.
00:20:31.280 People kept asking me, are they going to let Trump back in office?
00:20:37.400 And my response to them was like, hey, guys, you know better than me what's going on because
00:20:42.860 you lived.
00:20:43.860 This was under the Iron Curtain and the Romanians were under the Iron Curtain.
00:20:47.440 The Hungarians were under the Iron Curtain.
00:20:49.180 And guess what?
00:20:49.900 They didn't just ask for their freedom back, didn't ask for their country back.
00:20:54.100 They took it back.
00:20:55.260 The Romanians rose up and fought off the communists and took their country back.
00:21:00.300 We don't have to talk about what happened to Kochesko and his wife.
00:21:03.520 And then you've got also in Hungary where they launched multiple, you know, multiple uprisings
00:21:08.200 that failed and were, you know, covered under martial law, even under the communists.
00:21:13.080 But again, they didn't give up faith.
00:21:15.140 They never stopped fighting.
00:21:16.200 So, you know, why is it, though, that even overseas, even abroad, in places that were
00:21:22.320 under the Iron Curtain, behind the Iron Curtain, why are they asking me, will Trump be allowed
00:21:28.260 to win the election?
00:21:30.120 You know, I got a lot of those similar questions and I would tell them, you know, we all know
00:21:34.620 President Trump has already won twice.
00:21:36.400 We think he'll win a third time as well.
00:21:38.360 And the response would be a little chuckle.
00:21:40.220 And then, yes, yes, we know.
00:21:42.060 So, but will he be allowed to be elected?
00:21:45.620 And I said, well, that's the question, right?
00:21:47.260 Can we defeat the margin of voter fraud?
00:21:50.200 And that's why I've called, I was on a panel in CPAC Hungary and I called for essentially
00:21:55.580 using the state's rules.
00:21:56.900 If you're in a state where you're allowed to ballot harvest, go do it.
00:22:00.460 Go to the local church, go anywhere where you think conservatives might be and do some
00:22:05.340 ballot harvesting.
00:22:06.620 I even mentioned Scott Pressler and what he's campaigning for.
00:22:09.960 And I think it's a great idea.
00:22:11.320 I mean, if we just go out and campaign a traditional way, we go out, give nice speeches, we shake
00:22:16.080 hands, we kiss babies.
00:22:17.580 Meanwhile, the Democrats are in their basement doing nothing, but they have their cronies
00:22:22.220 out there ballot harvesting and they come in at three in the morning with a box full of
00:22:25.940 a few thousand ballots and all of a sudden they won the election by a slight margin.
00:22:29.380 And that's ridiculous.
00:22:30.460 We can't allow that to continue to happen.
00:22:32.520 And so Republicans need to wake up, have the offices in different states, especially swing
00:22:36.480 states.
00:22:37.440 Where's the RNC on that?
00:22:38.820 You know, we were talking before coming on live and it's it's how can you win?
00:22:44.580 Republicans aren't really trying to win that much as of right now if they're not embracing
00:22:48.660 ballot harvesting and then the rules within each state as corrupt as they might be.
00:22:52.460 And we don't agree with those rules.
00:22:54.140 If that is the rule, we have to play by them.
00:22:55.940 Look, it's it's so obvious to me.
00:22:59.560 But my question is, where's the offices?
00:23:01.740 Where are the offices?
00:23:03.320 And I'm just going to keep saying that until we get the offices open.
00:23:05.940 Where are the offices?
00:23:07.220 Where's the ground game?
00:23:08.600 Where's the early get out the vote game?
00:23:10.520 Because it's not even it's not even get out the vote anymore.
00:23:12.780 Right.
00:23:12.980 It's get out the ballots.
00:23:13.980 So, G-O-T-B, where are the where are the people that are putting this together?
00:23:19.760 We know Turning Point Action already has their plan with Tyler Boyer and they've got they've
00:23:24.580 got the app up.
00:23:25.240 So go check out Turning Point Action.
00:23:27.240 But of course, Tyler just went and got indicted by the Democrats in Arizona because people need
00:23:33.300 to understand what's going on is a full spectrum attack on Trump and Trump supporters and key
00:23:39.640 Trump lieutenants in all of these different parts of the country.
00:23:43.820 Why is Trump being forced up?
00:23:45.300 And it blows my mind that people won't simply call it what it is.
00:23:48.780 Trump has been removed from the campaign trail by state force.
00:23:54.460 This has never happened before in the history of the United States that a leading can actually
00:24:00.720 if you go by the polls, the leading candidate for president has been removed from the campaign
00:24:08.100 trail by state force.
00:24:10.820 We've never seen something like that.
00:24:12.560 If this were happening in Russia, we all know what everybody would say.
00:24:16.620 But, Mark, in places like Hungary and Romania, they know exactly what that is, don't they?
00:24:21.720 Right.
00:24:22.280 So we have we have the Banana Republic.
00:24:23.880 We have a kangaroo courts.
00:24:25.480 We have the whole circus, it seems.
00:24:26.740 And it's kind of interesting where, you know, I go to countries like Hungary, Romania, even
00:24:32.800 El Salvador and the election integrity isn't really an issue over there.
00:24:36.900 And you think, well, surely in some of these developing countries, particularly El Salvador,
00:24:42.060 that would be a big issue.
00:24:43.220 But they don't seem to really discuss that much.
00:24:45.540 Meanwhile, we're here in a first world country.
00:24:47.900 It's supposed to be the country of freedom, liberty.
00:24:50.200 And we're dealing with some of the biggest corruption, I think, really surprising to most
00:24:56.340 Americans, myself included.
00:24:57.540 I always thought this was things that would happen in, you know, some foreign countries,
00:25:01.040 some third world somewhere.
00:25:01.940 But then you you see it being uncovered, especially in the last five years or so, where we have
00:25:07.680 some of the worst corruption that we've ever seen in the first world.
00:25:12.160 And even in any European country, they wouldn't tolerate that.
00:25:15.220 They have to have an idea to vote.
00:25:16.280 They have much more security when it comes to elections.
00:25:19.040 And so people should be questioning, why is it that in our country, supposedly the greatest
00:25:24.360 country in the world, which I agree it is in many aspects, why can we not have election
00:25:28.940 integrity?
00:25:29.520 Well, that's because it would not benefit a certain party, the current ruling party.
00:25:34.560 And I think they'll do everything they can to stop us from having election integrity,
00:25:38.000 whether it is cheating, using violence and intimidation tactics.
00:25:41.940 We saw BLM and Antifa.
00:25:43.160 And say President Trump does get elected this term, which I think he will, despite the cheating
00:25:48.580 and the voter fraud, they're going to want to burn the country down.
00:25:51.220 So they wanted to make it a lose-lose situation for us, it seems.
00:25:55.120 So I said this on War Room this morning, and I agree with you completely that what we're
00:26:00.960 seeing happen right now on these campuses isn't actually about Israel or Gaza.
00:26:05.980 What it's about is setting up the operational networks for that havoc and anarchy and destruction
00:26:14.000 that you're speaking of.
00:26:15.500 And what they're doing is it's network development as well as network stress testing.
00:26:19.580 So they're getting their test bed out right now.
00:26:23.020 They're rolling it out.
00:26:24.020 You've got Antifa at these places.
00:26:26.080 You've got far-left radicals.
00:26:28.880 And the only piece of it that they left to have is BLM.
00:26:32.620 Once they get BLM on board, there's no question in my mind, cities will burn before Election
00:26:40.200 Day 2024.
00:26:41.960 And we're already seeing the networks being built in real time for this.
00:26:45.940 And you go and they interview the people, and you find out that less than 10% of them
00:26:50.260 are actually students.
00:26:52.000 Tewer than 10% are actually students at these protests.
00:26:55.520 And the rest of it is just committed far-leftists, rent-a-mobs, and these same types of networks.
00:27:01.040 But let me ask you this question, because, look, we can see the left getting their powers
00:27:05.520 ready.
00:27:05.920 They've got their judicial side going.
00:27:08.500 They've got their battleground state offices open.
00:27:11.480 They've already got their mobilizing their street forces and their street militias.
00:27:15.260 Let me ask you this question, though.
00:27:17.220 Is it time for Republicans to start putting pressure on key leftists with not just the
00:27:25.320 sort of online rhetoric, or should we actually be using things like lawfare against them?
00:27:31.980 Why aren't we seeing subpoenas going out against all of the far-left organizations and NGOs?
00:27:38.120 Why aren't we seeing RICO investigations open up?
00:27:40.580 I've been calling for this for months at this point, that the state's attorney general need
00:27:46.060 to start doing this on left-wing NGOs, whether it's ADL, SPLC, or any organization, students
00:27:50.920 just for Palestine.
00:27:52.000 Why not?
00:27:52.460 Oh, they're, you know, New York Post, oh, they're funded by George Soros.
00:27:54.880 Great.
00:27:55.480 Open up an investigation.
00:27:56.740 Subpoena the crap out of these guys.
00:27:58.900 Start investigating them from the federal level with the House, and yet Jordan won't
00:28:03.120 do it.
00:28:03.700 What is it about your sort of modern conservative that just is so averse to actually using power?
00:28:12.520 Right.
00:28:13.020 So I'm an attorney, and I understand how lawfare works.
00:28:15.680 And I also understand that a lot of the times it's not necessarily used because you have
00:28:20.640 a claim that's meritorious.
00:28:23.400 A lot of times it's a stall tactic.
00:28:26.440 We've seen it happen.
00:28:27.780 We're just trying to silence people, right?
00:28:29.900 Lauren Witzke, she was sued for defamation, alleged defamation.
00:28:33.800 I represented her in that case here in Houston.
00:28:37.020 Well, not here in Houston, but in Houston.
00:28:38.940 And it seems to me like there's, even if it's just mildly meritorious, or it can be argued
00:28:45.240 that it's mildly meritorious, then it passes muster, and it's difficult to get it dismissed.
00:28:50.280 And so the left has been very good about that.
00:28:52.400 And I think they would not be anywhere near as successful as they have been had it not
00:28:56.640 been for lawfare.
00:28:57.820 And so, yes, of course, the right has to embrace that.
00:29:00.260 And we've seen Prime Minister Viktor Orban, you know, I think the left hates him so much,
00:29:04.300 and they're so mad at him, because he actually operates in a similar way that they do, only
00:29:09.360 he's pushing conservative values, the family, the original family unit, and Christianity.
00:29:17.040 And so they hate him for using some of those tactics against them, legitimate state power.
00:29:21.420 And so, yes, conservatives need to embrace that, or just be a dying breed.
00:29:26.420 Yeah, are you going to be a dying breed?
00:29:27.720 Real quick, we only got about 90 seconds left, and we're going to be doing, in the second half,
00:29:31.540 we're going to be talking more about lawfare.
00:29:33.100 But I want to ask you, while I have you on, as an attorney, what is your sense of Alvin
00:29:38.860 Bragg's theory of the case?
00:29:41.580 I've been reading Jonathan Turley on it, but I want to get your sense of it's a felony
00:29:45.880 to cover up a false business, other felony.
00:29:49.680 I mean, it's like a Root's Gold machine.
00:29:52.740 Yeah, as an attorney, I can't make any sense of it, actually.
00:29:55.900 Looking it over, it just seems like he pulled out of thin air.
00:29:59.340 So it's not just me, okay.
00:30:00.920 And then he said, it's a felony, it's a felony, it's a felony, and then just filed it.
00:30:06.680 It's because it blows my mind, and yet he won't actually even say what the supposed
00:30:15.160 crime that's being covered up is, and yet this is the reason that he's forced off.
00:30:20.640 Folks, we want to thank Mark Ivano for being here.
00:30:23.740 Go give him a follow on Twitter, and ask Mark Ivano, as well as go and follow and support
00:30:29.140 Republicans for national renewal.
00:30:32.000 We're fighting the good fight.
00:30:32.940 Right back, Bill Chamberlain.
00:30:35.020 I want to know the truth what really went down
00:30:38.360 So I'm jumping on my computer
00:30:40.880 Going to pre-order town
00:30:43.220 Pre-ordered in life, U.S.
00:30:46.900 Can't wait to get my hands on that book
00:30:49.980 Gonna dive into his pages
00:30:52.340 Take a closer look
00:30:54.300 From the Russian Revolution
00:30:56.080 All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back live now, talking about lawfare.
00:31:04.700 We're here, Madrid, Spain, but we're also talking about lawfare.
00:31:07.280 We're talking about ways that the right can fight back, and we're also learning about
00:31:11.020 the ways the left has done this.
00:31:14.740 And our guest now is Will Chamberlain from the Article 3 Project.
00:31:18.420 Will, this is something that it's truly remarkable to me that
00:31:22.360 Actually, I had told you we were going to start with the Supreme Court, but I lied.
00:31:26.220 So I want to start with Alvin Bragg.
00:31:28.500 Because, and just take it all back from a second,
00:31:31.140 That there is the legal case, right,
00:31:33.860 With Alvin Bragg, and yet there's also
00:31:35.960 The effect of the legal case.
00:31:38.940 And the effect of the legal case
00:31:40.780 Is that Donald Trump,
00:31:42.780 Who is the current president,
00:31:44.740 Or current leading presidential candidate
00:31:47.140 In the United States,
00:31:48.120 So CNN has the poll,
00:31:49.160 He's number one head-on-head,
00:31:50.600 And number one by a lot
00:31:52.560 In the three-way split,
00:31:54.740 Or four-way split,
00:31:55.400 When you add in third parties.
00:31:56.920 And yet he's been removed from the campaign trail
00:31:59.880 By lawfare,
00:32:01.420 Removed by state force.
00:32:04.860 Why are the Democrats so good at this, Will?
00:32:08.680 Well, I mean,
00:32:09.480 First off, they're ruthless, right?
00:32:11.700 Like, we start there.
00:32:12.440 Democrats are fundamentally
00:32:13.600 Ruthless as a political party.
00:32:15.220 And this is something we haven't,
00:32:17.320 This is not a new phenomenon.
00:32:18.800 Democrats have been ruthless
00:32:19.720 For a very long time,
00:32:21.340 Especially when it comes to the law
00:32:23.140 And the judges and everything else.
00:32:25.420 I mean, I can think of,
00:32:26.520 You know, Miguel Estrada,
00:32:27.980 Let's take that's a really interesting example
00:32:30.440 Of, you know,
00:32:31.460 A guy who was totally qualified
00:32:32.680 For the Supreme Court,
00:32:34.080 Was nominated for the D.C. Circuit.
00:32:37.560 Democrats knew that he would be
00:32:38.920 An outstanding candidate,
00:32:40.240 Knew he was an outstanding judge,
00:32:41.440 Knew he met all the qualifications,
00:32:43.120 And ruined him,
00:32:44.440 To the point that his wife
00:32:45.620 Ultimately committed suicide,
00:32:47.020 By putting him through
00:32:49.020 The worst confirmation hearing
00:32:50.460 We've ever seen,
00:32:51.980 And why?
00:32:52.840 Because they wanted to be
00:32:53.540 The first people to appoint
00:32:54.700 A Latina,
00:32:55.620 Or a Latino Supreme Court justice.
00:32:58.540 So, that's what they do.
00:33:00.580 It's incredible.
00:33:01.600 So, what's interesting to me
00:33:03.400 Is that,
00:33:03.960 And I read Jonathan Turley's
00:33:05.400 Great piece on,
00:33:06.740 On the Alvin Bragg,
00:33:08.280 Alvin Bragg's like actual theory
00:33:09.860 Of the case,
00:33:10.680 Which is something that,
00:33:11.480 You know,
00:33:12.600 It doesn't seem like
00:33:13.600 It gets actual much play
00:33:15.180 In the press,
00:33:16.020 Or even in the courtroom,
00:33:18.100 With Donald Trump right now,
00:33:20.980 Because he's got this very,
00:33:22.940 And this is where,
00:33:24.140 And I just asked
00:33:24.700 Our last guest,
00:33:25.920 Mark,
00:33:26.160 Who's an attorney,
00:33:26.700 But it wasn't really the subject,
00:33:28.340 I just asked him
00:33:28.920 What he thought of it,
00:33:29.580 And he said he couldn't
00:33:30.060 Even make sense of it.
00:33:30.920 I'm sitting here as a layperson
00:33:32.920 Trying to make sense of,
00:33:35.000 There's a misdemeanor
00:33:36.440 To cover up a misdemeanor,
00:33:38.480 Which they claim,
00:33:39.560 Which somehow transforms it
00:33:42.240 Into a felony,
00:33:43.860 Even though the law
00:33:45.740 That supposedly was covered up
00:33:47.320 Is a federal law,
00:33:48.880 And the federal government
00:33:49.980 Doesn't seem to care
00:33:51.600 About any of this,
00:33:53.160 But he's just going to go ahead
00:33:55.000 And prosecute it
00:33:55.920 As if he was
00:33:57.180 Law enforcement
00:33:59.260 At the federal level,
00:34:00.660 And yet in the courtroom,
00:34:02.840 We're not being told
00:34:04.420 Anything about this theory,
00:34:06.040 Instead we're being told
00:34:06.980 About his,
00:34:07.880 You know,
00:34:08.100 Alleged sex life
00:34:09.160 With these models,
00:34:11.520 And like,
00:34:12.500 You know,
00:34:13.300 Striptease artists,
00:34:14.540 And this catch and kill stuff
00:34:17.120 With David Pecker,
00:34:18.820 But what is the actual theory,
00:34:21.080 And have you ever seen
00:34:22.020 Anything like this?
00:34:24.260 Well, I mean,
00:34:24.820 You actually describe
00:34:25.720 The theory fairly well.
00:34:26.860 The idea is that
00:34:27.920 He made a false entry
00:34:29.780 In his business records
00:34:30.920 Or had a false entry made
00:34:32.980 Relating to a payment
00:34:34.860 That was ultimately routed
00:34:36.500 To David Pecker
00:34:37.400 For the purchase
00:34:38.460 Of Stormy Daniel's,
00:34:40.140 The rights to Stormy Daniel's story,
00:34:42.500 And the theory is that
00:34:43.560 That's somehow
00:34:44.760 A campaign finance violation
00:34:46.460 Because somehow,
00:34:48.960 Even though ultimately
00:34:49.960 It's him donating
00:34:50.820 The money to himself,
00:34:52.040 I mean,
00:34:52.280 That's the bizarre part of this.
00:34:53.860 I don't actually get
00:34:54.500 What the campaign finance violation
00:34:55.800 Truly is here.
00:34:57.760 But it's a very,
00:34:58.900 Very bizarre theory.
00:34:59.940 And what I think
00:35:00.680 That Alvin Bragg
00:35:01.740 And his team
00:35:02.200 Are trying to do
00:35:03.120 Is not to persuade
00:35:06.200 The jury that,
00:35:07.340 You know,
00:35:07.680 The elements of a crime
00:35:08.920 Have been satisfied
00:35:09.640 And Donald Trump is guilty
00:35:10.680 Beyond a reasonable doubt,
00:35:11.560 But rather
00:35:12.000 That Donald Trump
00:35:12.980 Is an extremely bad man
00:35:14.280 And therefore the bad man
00:35:15.240 Should go to jail.
00:35:15.860 But that's not how
00:35:16.340 Our criminal justice system works.
00:35:20.520 Right.
00:35:20.980 So,
00:35:21.260 And unfortunately,
00:35:22.520 With a case like this,
00:35:23.720 You know,
00:35:24.800 I was saying here
00:35:26.480 In some of the conferences
00:35:28.320 I've been at that,
00:35:29.320 You know,
00:35:29.540 There's no way
00:35:29.920 You can have a fair jury
00:35:30.920 In a place where
00:35:32.120 You have a political,
00:35:33.820 Massive political figure
00:35:35.160 Like this,
00:35:36.220 And the jury pool
00:35:38.640 Is like 90% Democrats.
00:35:41.180 I said the only way
00:35:42.340 You could really have
00:35:42.900 A fair trial
00:35:43.740 Is if you did like,
00:35:45.100 I don't know,
00:35:45.420 A third,
00:35:45.760 A third,
00:35:46.020 And third,
00:35:46.540 And maybe have,
00:35:47.400 You know,
00:35:47.620 A third Republican,
00:35:48.460 A third Democrat,
00:35:49.140 And a third independent
00:35:50.540 Or something like that.
00:35:51.440 But of course,
00:35:51.760 That's not how we pick juries
00:35:53.160 In the United States.
00:35:54.520 Though perhaps something
00:35:55.340 For Congress to think about
00:35:56.920 When it comes to
00:35:57.880 D.C. juries
00:35:58.920 In the future.
00:36:01.000 But,
00:36:01.580 So essentially,
00:36:02.440 It doesn't matter
00:36:03.260 Because they know
00:36:03.920 They've got a bunch of Dems up there.
00:36:05.280 They've got a bunch of Libs.
00:36:06.920 And they're going to vote
00:36:07.880 Again,
00:36:08.280 Or they're going to vote
00:36:08.800 Guilty for Trump
00:36:09.420 Because he's Trump.
00:36:10.300 And that's about it.
00:36:11.560 Unless you,
00:36:12.180 You know,
00:36:12.360 You get one or two holdouts,
00:36:13.680 Which I think
00:36:14.660 Is just kind of a Hail Mary
00:36:15.520 At this point.
00:36:16.040 It's kind of ridiculous
00:36:16.580 To even truly consider it,
00:36:19.180 You know,
00:36:19.360 Maybe 1% chance
00:36:20.480 That that happens.
00:36:21.720 But the effect of it,
00:36:22.720 The effect of it
00:36:23.540 Is actually what matters.
00:36:24.840 And the effect of it
00:36:25.840 Is that Donald Trump
00:36:27.000 Has been pulled off
00:36:27.740 The campaign trail.
00:36:28.780 He's now sitting in court
00:36:29.660 Rather than barnstorming Pennsylvania.
00:36:31.700 There's no ground game up.
00:36:33.000 There's no field offices up yet,
00:36:34.360 Which there should be
00:36:35.100 Since he's
00:36:35.860 Obviously not there.
00:36:37.160 And though I hear,
00:36:37.880 I'm very pleased to hear
00:36:38.940 That Governor DeSantis
00:36:40.380 Will be either joining Trump
00:36:42.420 Or doing some campaigning
00:36:44.000 As well for him on his own.
00:36:46.180 They had a huge meeting
00:36:47.080 In Miami over the week.
00:36:48.320 And so I tweeted about that.
00:36:49.780 But I certainly want to mention that
00:36:51.980 While you're here, Will.
00:36:53.380 Right.
00:36:54.760 And
00:36:55.160 It's just amazing
00:37:00.080 That Democrats have been able
00:37:01.200 To pull this off.
00:37:02.520 And it's like
00:37:03.040 It's like our country
00:37:04.280 Doesn't even sit up
00:37:05.260 And talk about
00:37:06.480 What's really going on.
00:37:08.860 Yeah, I mean,
00:37:09.320 I don't know.
00:37:09.880 I saw this coming, right?
00:37:11.380 Like this is
00:37:12.100 I mean, you know,
00:37:13.140 We can
00:37:13.500 Obviously I support
00:37:14.520 President Trump now
00:37:15.400 And want to see him elected.
00:37:16.820 But if you're, you know,
00:37:18.040 People will know
00:37:18.640 That I was a DeSantis supporter
00:37:19.780 In the primary.
00:37:20.580 And one of the reasons is
00:37:21.740 I was worried about this problem.
00:37:24.380 I was worried about
00:37:25.120 The lawfare problem.
00:37:25.980 Now, that said,
00:37:27.200 Things have gone well
00:37:28.580 On the lawfare front
00:37:29.460 As a general matter
00:37:30.460 For President Trump.
00:37:31.780 And it looks like
00:37:32.480 Most of the federal cases
00:37:33.760 Aren't going to see trial
00:37:34.600 Before the election.
00:37:35.480 But this one has, for example.
00:37:36.940 And, you know,
00:37:37.620 This is an example of
00:37:39.200 You know, the kind of
00:37:39.960 The stuff he was going to face
00:37:41.320 As a presidential candidate.
00:37:42.840 When we, when, during
00:37:45.340 When we knew
00:37:45.860 We knew about this
00:37:46.540 During the nominating process.
00:37:47.960 But now that it's happening
00:37:49.480 We got to fight it.
00:37:51.200 And I'm glad
00:37:52.340 Very, very glad to see
00:37:53.380 That Governor DeSantis
00:37:54.220 And President Trump
00:37:54.980 Are going to start working together
00:37:55.920 Because I think that
00:37:57.060 You know, there was
00:37:58.100 I think there was
00:37:58.620 Some sniping going on
00:37:59.640 From both camps
00:38:01.080 If you will.
00:38:02.500 And I didn't think
00:38:04.320 Any of it was productive.
00:38:05.780 And I think, you know,
00:38:06.540 DeSantis has a lot of support
00:38:07.680 In the country.
00:38:08.520 Donald Trump certainly does.
00:38:09.640 And we should all be
00:38:10.560 Working together
00:38:11.060 To defeat Joe Biden.
00:38:12.880 There's no question.
00:38:14.140 And actually, funny enough
00:38:15.380 Governor DeSantis
00:38:16.800 Also has a history
00:38:17.700 As a Navy lawyer.
00:38:18.960 So, you know,
00:38:19.540 Maybe he can offer
00:38:20.760 Some legal assistance
00:38:22.240 As well there.
00:38:23.360 But, Will, you know,
00:38:24.440 In just the three minutes
00:38:26.120 We have left in this segment
00:38:27.040 Because I want to do
00:38:27.600 Supreme Court in the next.
00:38:29.660 Have you ever seen
00:38:30.940 A case brought against
00:38:32.280 Such a high-profile figure
00:38:33.680 Like President Trump
00:38:34.600 Or just anyone
00:38:35.360 That's similar to this theory
00:38:37.580 This bizarre legal theory
00:38:39.100 That Alvin Bragg is using?
00:38:40.140 Not in particular
00:38:42.440 Nothing similar
00:38:43.460 To this theory
00:38:44.280 I mean, but we have
00:38:45.480 Had similar attempts
00:38:46.740 At lawfare
00:38:47.340 Against popular Republicans
00:38:48.580 Before
00:38:49.160 A good example
00:38:50.920 Would be Ted Stevens
00:38:51.820 Back in Alaska
00:38:52.760 They accused him
00:38:54.980 Of this bogus bribery charge
00:38:56.400 And suborned perjury
00:38:57.880 From FBI agents
00:38:58.740 To do it
00:38:59.340 Ted Stevens had to withdraw
00:39:01.380 And he lost his race
00:39:02.560 Which was ultimately
00:39:03.620 What got Obamacare passed
00:39:04.960 And then after he was convicted
00:39:07.420 At trial
00:39:08.040 Judge Emmett Sullivan
00:39:09.000 Actually threw out
00:39:10.320 The jury verdict
00:39:11.340 And had ethics
00:39:14.160 I think ultimately
00:39:15.160 Some of the prosecutors
00:39:16.060 Got indicted
00:39:16.860 And charged themselves
00:39:18.400 And lost their bar licenses
00:39:19.420 I wish that Judge Sullivan
00:39:22.360 Had been
00:39:22.960 Had been that same
00:39:24.500 Judge Sullivan
00:39:25.080 When it came to
00:39:26.000 General Flynn
00:39:26.780 But apparently
00:39:27.600 Apparently not so
00:39:28.880 As you and I
00:39:29.720 Covered his trial together
00:39:31.500 And or his hearing
00:39:32.480 At least
00:39:32.840 At one point
00:39:33.760 Remember
00:39:34.080 And remember
00:39:34.680 Sullivan wouldn't even
00:39:36.080 Let Flynn take
00:39:37.500 Or wouldn't even drop
00:39:38.420 The charges
00:39:38.820 They actually had to go
00:39:39.680 All the way up to the point
00:39:40.480 Where Trump
00:39:41.040 Pardoned him
00:39:42.060 In like the last
00:39:42.840 You know
00:39:43.780 Kind of waning minutes
00:39:44.800 Of the presidency
00:39:45.420 In 2020
00:39:46.580 As he was leaving
00:39:47.540 Because Sullivan
00:39:48.740 Was just so
00:39:49.420 Completely intransigent
00:39:50.580 On this
00:39:51.100 And what strikes me
00:39:53.200 Though
00:39:53.360 What strikes me
00:39:53.880 And I'll toss it to you
00:39:54.920 For the last minute
00:39:55.520 Is that
00:39:56.060 Democrats will be
00:39:57.980 As ruthless
00:39:59.180 As possible
00:40:00.260 With lawfare
00:40:01.840 And Republicans
00:40:02.860 Seem to just
00:40:04.420 Kind of be
00:40:05.160 Totally averse
00:40:06.320 To opening up
00:40:07.360 Any significant
00:40:08.480 Investigations
00:40:09.340 Into Democrats
00:40:10.220 Yeah I mean
00:40:11.940 We're
00:40:12.240 It seems like
00:40:12.760 We've unilaterally
00:40:13.460 Disarmed
00:40:13.980 I mean
00:40:14.340 I don't know
00:40:15.140 What's going on
00:40:15.720 In Georgia
00:40:16.100 With Chris Carr
00:40:16.800 And Brian Kemp
00:40:18.540 But there should have been
00:40:19.560 Indictment of Fannie Willis
00:40:21.360 Yesterday
00:40:21.820 Months ago
00:40:22.800 She perjured herself
00:40:23.900 On the stand
00:40:24.340 In front of the whole country
00:40:25.680 Where's the indictment
00:40:27.060 It's embarrassing
00:40:28.340 It's embarrassing
00:40:29.020 To your entire state
00:40:29.920 That you haven't solved
00:40:30.720 The puzzle
00:40:31.340 Of how to indict
00:40:32.600 Someone who perjured
00:40:33.400 Themselves so brazenly
00:40:35.200 But
00:40:35.920 We've unilaterally
00:40:37.780 Disarmed in a lot of ways
00:40:38.700 On lawfare
00:40:39.180 And I think
00:40:39.720 A big part of why
00:40:40.720 The article 3 project
00:40:41.600 Exists
00:40:42.100 And what we're going to do
00:40:42.900 Going forward
00:40:43.520 We're going to try
00:40:44.460 And fix that
00:40:44.980 You know
00:40:45.800 Lawfare can't just be
00:40:46.680 A one-way street
00:40:47.240 Okay
00:40:48.580 Let's
00:40:49.560 Let's
00:40:50.380 Let's chat about that
00:40:51.240 A little bit more
00:40:51.900 In the next segment
00:40:53.260 Will Chamberlain
00:40:53.960 Article 3 project
00:40:55.220 Senior counsel
00:40:55.940 Which is my game
00:40:56.680 But I got a hankering
00:41:10.640 Yearning deep inside
00:41:14.240 For this book called
00:41:15.960 Unhumans
00:41:16.940 I just can't hide
00:41:19.000 All right
00:41:24.700 Jack Pacific back here
00:41:25.580 Live Madrid
00:41:26.780 Spain
00:41:27.460 Palatial Madrid
00:41:28.640 Spain
00:41:29.320 But we're talking
00:41:30.240 To Will Chamberlain
00:41:31.220 About the lawfare
00:41:32.300 That Donald Trump
00:41:33.260 Is facing
00:41:34.420 In the United States
00:41:36.120 Will
00:41:36.980 Real quick
00:41:37.640 Because I have a couple
00:41:38.800 Things I want to ask you
00:41:39.540 But
00:41:39.780 You heard the oral
00:41:41.360 Arguments
00:41:41.880 Supreme Court
00:41:42.720 This presidential
00:41:43.480 Immunity case
00:41:44.560 As it came through
00:41:46.100 What are your takeaways
00:41:47.220 On that
00:41:48.220 We had
00:41:49.320 We had Mike Davids
00:41:50.300 On a couple of times
00:41:51.080 Your colleague
00:41:51.680 But I wanted to get
00:41:52.520 Yours as well
00:41:53.140 Yeah
00:41:54.860 I think that
00:41:55.520 It's a big face plant
00:41:57.200 For all the lefty
00:41:58.060 Legal eagles
00:41:58.700 Who said that
00:41:59.320 This was a ridiculous
00:42:00.100 Argument
00:42:00.660 And that it had
00:42:02.060 No chance of getting
00:42:02.820 Any support
00:42:03.440 On the Supreme Court
00:42:04.200 I think
00:42:04.600 Donald Trump
00:42:05.400 Should be pretty reassured
00:42:06.260 That he will win
00:42:07.580 Some amount
00:42:08.820 Of immunity
00:42:09.700 That there is some
00:42:10.380 Amount of immunity
00:42:11.240 From prosecution
00:42:12.000 And it's just a question
00:42:13.840 Of where they're
00:42:14.200 Going to draw the line
00:42:14.940 But if they
00:42:16.640 Articulate that
00:42:17.840 There's any amount
00:42:18.660 Of presidential immunity
00:42:19.500 Then this can't
00:42:20.260 Just go straight to trial
00:42:21.200 There has to be
00:42:21.740 An evidentiary
00:42:22.400 Hearing on
00:42:24.200 Whether or not
00:42:24.940 President Trump's
00:42:26.500 Acts as alleged
00:42:27.480 In the indictment
00:42:28.120 Are the official
00:42:30.020 Acts or not
00:42:30.640 So I think
00:42:31.820 I think
00:42:32.300 President Trump's
00:42:32.920 In good shape
00:42:33.460 And you know
00:42:35.680 The funny thing is
00:42:36.320 It's just a way
00:42:36.960 You continually find
00:42:38.100 Yourself disappointed
00:42:39.360 Or you know
00:42:40.700 Laughing at so many
00:42:42.000 Of these lefty
00:42:42.580 Legal analysts
00:42:43.180 Even guys who are
00:42:43.800 Like my former
00:42:44.320 Professors at Georgetown
00:42:45.340 Who just make
00:42:46.400 Complete fools of
00:42:47.080 Themselves on
00:42:48.020 National television
00:42:48.780 Saying that none
00:42:49.500 Of these arguments
00:42:50.020 Have any merit
00:42:50.700 And I mean
00:42:51.860 I do the reading
00:42:52.720 I read the
00:42:53.720 Nixon v Fitzgerald case
00:42:55.040 Which is the case
00:42:56.100 Where the Supreme Court
00:42:57.260 Found that there was
00:42:58.080 Immunity from civil
00:42:59.120 Lawsuits for former
00:43:00.540 Presidents for their
00:43:01.320 Official acts
00:43:01.980 And you can't read
00:43:03.360 That case and read
00:43:04.200 The logic in it
00:43:05.000 And how it talks
00:43:06.060 About how important
00:43:06.980 The president is
00:43:09.200 To the functioning
00:43:09.760 Of our government
00:43:10.420 And how putting
00:43:11.840 Any damper
00:43:12.440 On presidential
00:43:12.960 Action is both
00:43:15.320 Very very destructive
00:43:16.380 As a policy matter
00:43:17.140 But also as a
00:43:18.120 Legal matter
00:43:18.600 Just you know
00:43:19.520 Doesn't jive
00:43:20.860 With the general
00:43:21.280 Respect the
00:43:21.860 Constitution shows
00:43:22.780 The president
00:43:23.220 And the respect
00:43:23.800 Between the branches
00:43:24.520 And so it should
00:43:26.240 Have been obvious
00:43:26.740 To most of these
00:43:27.440 People that
00:43:27.840 President Trump
00:43:28.360 And his team
00:43:29.000 Had a point
00:43:29.460 On criminal
00:43:30.520 Immunity
00:43:30.880 And yet they just
00:43:31.860 Pretended that it
00:43:32.480 Was a frivolous
00:43:33.080 Ridiculous argument
00:43:33.820 Well apparently not
00:43:34.940 Apparently five
00:43:35.620 Justices of the
00:43:36.220 Supreme Court
00:43:36.620 Are going to
00:43:36.900 Disagree
00:43:37.260 Well and this
00:43:39.360 Is why we have
00:43:40.320 A president
00:43:40.980 Vice a prime
00:43:42.020 Minister right
00:43:42.760 This is why
00:43:43.920 I mean the
00:43:44.460 The founders
00:43:46.020 Could have made
00:43:46.880 The United States
00:43:48.200 Have something
00:43:48.740 Similar to a prime
00:43:49.620 Minister or
00:43:50.460 You know just
00:43:51.340 Have a you know
00:43:52.160 Sort of bicameral
00:43:52.940 Legislature and
00:43:53.860 Leave it at that
00:43:54.540 But the entire
00:43:55.840 Reason the entire
00:43:57.060 Argument for
00:43:58.080 And it's just
00:43:59.020 I'll show you
00:43:59.820 You know people
00:44:00.440 Could read the
00:44:00.880 Federalist papers
00:44:01.500 And find this
00:44:02.060 Out the reason
00:44:02.840 For the creation
00:44:03.660 Of the presidency
00:44:04.740 Was to have
00:44:05.620 Someone whose
00:44:06.260 Job it was
00:44:06.980 In the government
00:44:07.620 To sort of
00:44:08.460 Make these
00:44:08.940 Broad sweeping
00:44:09.960 Moves and
00:44:11.220 Certainly be able
00:44:11.920 To respond in
00:44:12.860 Ways at times
00:44:13.620 Where a
00:44:14.540 Deliberative body
00:44:15.360 Would be much
00:44:15.920 Slower and so
00:44:16.960 You know obviously
00:44:18.100 Part and parcel
00:44:19.060 Of that is being
00:44:20.500 Able to
00:44:21.680 To make those
00:44:23.340 Moves without
00:44:24.580 You know without
00:44:25.260 Having to worry
00:44:25.980 About being sued
00:44:27.140 Or indicted
00:44:28.380 Every five seconds
00:44:29.440 For one of these
00:44:29.960 Official acts
00:44:30.600 Yeah energy
00:44:32.220 In the executive
00:44:32.880 It appears all
00:44:33.740 Over the
00:44:34.040 Federalist papers
00:44:34.760 It's Hamilton's
00:44:35.900 Big idea
00:44:36.580 The idea that
00:44:38.080 You need energy
00:44:39.120 And efficiency
00:44:39.940 And dispatch
00:44:40.800 In the executive
00:44:41.420 That the people
00:44:42.280 Whose job it is
00:44:43.800 To enforce
00:44:44.740 And execute the
00:44:45.320 Laws
00:44:45.680 The people whose
00:44:46.160 Job it is to
00:44:46.720 Handle our
00:44:47.140 Foreign relations
00:44:47.780 Are able to act
00:44:48.720 And that's part
00:44:50.500 Of the genius
00:44:50.960 Of our government
00:44:51.560 This isn't
00:44:52.160 I mean if we
00:44:52.840 Wanted a world
00:44:53.540 Where you know
00:44:54.740 Presidents could
00:44:55.620 Just be thrown
00:44:56.440 Out willy-nilly
00:44:57.240 I mean we had
00:44:57.860 Something similar
00:44:58.380 To that world
00:44:58.760 In the articles
00:44:59.160 Of confederation
00:44:59.880 But that got
00:45:00.840 Tossed because
00:45:01.420 It didn't work
00:45:01.980 Our constitution
00:45:03.860 I think and
00:45:04.480 Sometimes the right
00:45:05.120 Forgets this because
00:45:06.000 You know we have
00:45:06.540 This kind of
00:45:06.920 Libertarian impulse
00:45:07.760 But the constitution
00:45:09.360 Exists to actually
00:45:10.840 Create a part of
00:45:12.560 Our government
00:45:13.040 That while limited
00:45:14.520 And cabin in
00:45:15.300 Some ways is
00:45:15.900 Strong and efficient
00:45:17.280 And can do
00:45:18.240 Things and that's
00:45:19.900 That's the role
00:45:20.700 Of the executive
00:45:21.180 Branch and
00:45:21.840 The whole
00:45:23.500 Theory
00:45:23.820 The theory here
00:45:24.600 That there's
00:45:24.960 No criminal
00:45:25.560 Immunity
00:45:25.880 I mean that's
00:45:26.520 That's not
00:45:27.200 Something the
00:45:27.520 Founders would
00:45:28.020 Have looked
00:45:28.320 At as
00:45:30.220 Being intelligent
00:45:31.180 Right which
00:45:32.940 Is why and
00:45:33.540 By the way
00:45:34.280 The answer
00:45:35.100 To the
00:45:36.220 Limits of the
00:45:37.100 Presidency is
00:45:37.960 Also there in
00:45:38.660 The constitution
00:45:39.260 It's called
00:45:39.760 The impeachment
00:45:40.480 Clause
00:45:41.000 It's right
00:45:42.240 There and
00:45:43.200 So it's
00:45:44.080 Clearly something
00:45:44.800 That the
00:45:45.200 Founders envisioned
00:45:46.060 Having come up
00:45:47.040 And they said
00:45:47.640 Of course
00:45:48.060 This is
00:45:48.560 This is
00:45:49.540 What we call
00:45:50.060 Checks and
00:45:50.720 Balances
00:45:51.220 That is the
00:45:52.340 Check on the
00:45:52.800 President's
00:45:53.320 Power and
00:45:54.120 This is the
00:45:54.480 Balance of
00:45:54.980 Power shared
00:45:55.560 Within the
00:45:55.900 Other branches
00:45:56.340 He can be
00:45:57.200 Impeached
00:45:57.700 He can be
00:45:58.480 Thrown out
00:45:59.020 But there
00:45:59.600 Is a very
00:46:00.120 High bar
00:46:00.860 To it
00:46:01.220 As there
00:46:01.860 Should be
00:46:02.840 And so the
00:46:03.560 Idea
00:46:03.920 Is sort of
00:46:04.640 Backdoor
00:46:05.380 Impeachments
00:46:06.240 I think would
00:46:06.780 Be anathema
00:46:07.360 To the
00:46:07.720 Founders
00:46:08.200 Because that's
00:46:08.980 Why they
00:46:09.380 Made the
00:46:09.760 Impeachment
00:46:10.120 Process
00:46:10.580 If you
00:46:10.960 Believe it
00:46:11.420 Impeach
00:46:12.380 Him
00:46:12.540 But you
00:46:13.500 Know kind
00:46:13.820 Of switching
00:46:14.320 Gears
00:46:14.580 You mentioned
00:46:15.160 About the
00:46:15.940 Article 3
00:46:16.380 Project
00:46:16.740 And I
00:46:17.080 Wasn't
00:46:17.400 Going to
00:46:17.900 Leave that
00:46:18.440 On the
00:46:18.940 Table
00:46:19.340 As a
00:46:20.320 Saved
00:46:20.600 Round
00:46:20.920 That the
00:46:21.280 Article 3
00:46:21.620 Project
00:46:21.900 Is
00:46:22.080 Potentially
00:46:22.560 Looking at
00:46:23.120 Some more
00:46:23.700 Projects
00:46:24.880 Regarding
00:46:25.380 Going after
00:46:26.460 The left
00:46:26.880 Anything
00:46:27.200 You can
00:46:27.560 Reveal
00:46:27.840 With us
00:46:28.340 Let's
00:46:31.160 See
00:46:31.240 There's
00:46:31.460 One thing
00:46:31.780 Obviously
00:46:32.060 I can't
00:46:32.380 Reveal
00:46:32.600 Until there's
00:46:32.960 A press
00:46:33.240 Release
00:46:33.520 About it
00:46:33.960 But the
00:46:34.660 General
00:46:35.000 Idea
00:46:35.400 Is we
00:46:35.960 Have
00:46:36.240 In the
00:46:36.540 Works
00:46:36.920 Ethics
00:46:38.020 Complaints
00:46:38.580 Against
00:46:39.140 Prosecutors
00:46:40.000 And judges
00:46:40.620 Who have
00:46:41.120 Violated
00:46:41.600 Their
00:46:41.840 Owns
00:46:42.280 And
00:46:43.020 What we're
00:46:43.740 Going to
00:46:44.020 Start
00:46:44.200 Looking at
00:46:44.820 I think
00:46:45.180 You're
00:46:45.380 Going to
00:46:45.520 Go after
00:46:45.980 Prosecutors
00:46:47.080 And judges
00:46:48.460 Yes
00:46:49.460 Right
00:46:50.120 Those
00:46:50.400 You know
00:46:51.120 Federal
00:46:51.400 Prosecutors
00:46:51.960 Have
00:46:52.200 Ethics
00:46:52.680 Requirements
00:46:53.960 And boards
00:46:54.940 Of professional
00:46:55.360 Responsibility
00:46:56.060 Within their
00:46:56.500 Own departments
00:46:57.180 That they
00:46:57.540 Have to
00:46:57.700 Answer to
00:46:58.220 Judges
00:46:59.980 Have
00:47:00.280 Codes
00:47:00.640 Of
00:47:00.740 Judicial
00:47:01.040 Ethics
00:47:01.360 That they
00:47:01.580 Are
00:47:01.660 Bound
00:47:01.880 By
00:47:02.120 At least
00:47:02.460 Below
00:47:02.660 The
00:47:02.840 Supreme
00:47:03.080 Court
00:47:03.320 Level
00:47:03.580 They
00:47:03.760 Actually
00:47:04.020 You know
00:47:04.260 They
00:47:04.400 Are
00:47:04.560 Firmly
00:47:05.100 Bound
00:47:05.360 By
00:47:05.560 And
00:47:05.660 They
00:47:05.740 Have
00:47:05.880 To
00:47:05.980 Adhere
00:47:06.200 To
00:47:06.420 And
00:47:08.020 Article
00:47:08.660 Three
00:47:08.860 Project
00:47:09.160 Has
00:47:09.380 Already
00:47:09.780 Filed
00:47:10.180 A
00:47:10.320 Number
00:47:10.500 Of
00:47:10.640 Complaints
00:47:10.960 Like
00:47:11.140 This
00:47:11.380 And
00:47:11.580 We
00:47:11.680 Have
00:47:11.840 Many
00:47:12.120 More
00:47:12.360 In
00:47:12.460 The
00:47:12.540 Works
00:47:12.760 And
00:47:12.900 We
00:47:13.060 Filed
00:47:13.280 Complaints
00:47:13.680 Against
00:47:13.940 Judge
00:47:14.200 Reggie
00:47:14.480 Walton
00:47:14.960 We
00:47:16.380 Fought
00:47:16.780 Especially
00:47:17.280 For
00:47:17.620 When
00:47:17.900 He
00:47:18.100 Went
00:47:18.460 On
00:47:18.600 CNN
00:47:18.940 And
00:47:19.340 Started
00:47:19.900 Blabbing
00:47:20.480 About
00:47:20.880 President
00:47:21.220 Trump's
00:47:21.540 Criminal
00:47:21.740 Trial
00:47:22.000 That
00:47:22.200 Was
00:47:22.320 A
00:47:22.440 Violation
00:47:22.920 Of
00:47:23.140 The
00:47:23.480 Judicial
00:47:23.800 Code
00:47:23.980 Of
00:47:24.100 Conduct
00:47:24.460 Which
00:47:24.640 Says
00:47:24.860 You
00:47:25.260 Should
00:47:25.720 Not
00:47:25.940 Talk
00:47:26.200 About
00:47:26.400 Any
00:47:26.640 Ongoing
00:47:27.180 Case
00:47:27.500 Not
00:47:27.900 Just
00:47:28.100 In
00:47:28.520 Your
00:47:38.660 There
00:47:39.140 Have
00:47:39.340 Been
00:47:39.460 These
00:47:39.640 Left
00:47:39.860 Wing
00:47:39.980 Operations
00:47:40.400 Things
00:47:40.640 Like
00:47:40.780 Project
00:47:41.100 65
00:47:41.640 Which
00:47:42.060 Is
00:47:42.880 This
00:47:43.020 Broad
00:47:43.340 Based
00:47:43.600 Effort
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