Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - September 15, 2026


H-1B SCAMS, THE GROWING IRAN PROBLEM, & THE BUTLER ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT EXPOSED

ENDING SCAMMIGRATION: SAVING TEXAS FROM THE H1B TAKEOVER

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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, it's Jack. I'm excited to let you know that finally the new edition of Unhuman
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00:00:30.000 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:38.800 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:00:41.860 Christ is king!
00:00:43.780 A photo meant to show UT students celebrating after a comeback win against Ohio State instead met with backlash.
00:00:50.820 Republican Texas Railroad candidate Beau French noting the racial makeup of the students in the photo, saying, quote,
00:00:57.220 quote, I heard UT graduation this year looked like this. I didn't believe it. The problem is now
00:01:02.780 obviously far worse than anyone imagined, end quote. French went on to say, while he rooted
00:01:07.920 for UT to win, he weeps for the families in Texas who can't get into the school because they
00:01:13.060 prioritize foreigners over Texans. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome on board today's edition of
00:01:20.040 Human Events Daily. We're here live on Real America's Voice. Today is September 15, 2026.
00:01:27.220 Anno Domini, and we're very proud and honored to have here on the program Anthony D'Esposito.
00:01:35.280 He's the Inspector General of the U.S. Department of Labor. Mr. Inspector General, how are you?
00:01:41.860 I'm great, Jack. Thanks for having me.
00:01:44.560 Well, we're very honored to have you on here, and we wanted to have you on because
00:01:48.740 this question of visa fraud, so many of these things that have been going on in our society,
00:01:55.280 Of course, in our country, we know that you are working hard to to crack down on this.
00:02:00.480 And we wanted to get guys. Do we have the inspector general?
00:02:06.900 Oh, got him back right there. All right. There was some fraud in the system.
00:02:09.920 But look at that, Mr. Inspector General. You took care of it right away.
00:02:12.540 Now the system has been reformed. Incredible work, sir.
00:02:16.960 Thank you, Jack. Yeah. I mean, listen, the the department is working hard.
00:02:20.920 Obviously, as you mentioned, we're dealing with this foreign labor visas.
00:02:25.020 The fact is, is that many of these protocols and processes were put in place to help American companies and the American and make sure that they can move forward with with the correct workforce.
00:02:35.900 And they've been extorted and exploited. And now it's only hurting the American worker.
00:02:40.820 And thankfully, under President Trump and this administration, we've said no more.
00:02:44.620 well it's incredible so so walk us through when as you've been looking through the scale of the
00:02:51.100 problem is this something that is affecting the united states as much as many people suspect
00:02:56.620 obviously we hear a lot from the tech sector we hear about these body shops that are essentially
00:03:01.800 these these visa mills that are going on it's very of course um a hot topic online what are
00:03:08.020 you seeing when you crack down and and get into the actual investigations yeah so i think it's
00:03:13.480 actually worse than many of the American people actually think or know about. I mean, unless you're
00:03:18.480 really paying attention, it's not the topic that a lot of Americans are focused on, but it should
00:03:22.940 be. I mean, the idea that we're sending our children, grandchildren, nieces, and nephews to
00:03:27.920 colleges and universities, and then when they graduate, they're having trouble finding jobs
00:03:33.440 in what they just studied for four or, you know, more years, because those jobs are being taken by 0.95
00:03:39.740 foreigners and those that are, again, exploiting and extorting the foreign labor visas, that's a
00:03:45.580 real problem. And it's not just in the tech sector. It's not just these witches, as we refer 0.64
00:03:51.860 them to, but we're seeing it in the medical industry and we're seeing it in other industries
00:03:56.560 as well. And the fact is, is that these, again, these visas were made to make sure American
00:04:01.940 companies can operate until they find an American worker to pay a fair wage in a job that they're
00:04:09.660 protected. And what's happening is exactly the opposite. And you have these groups that are
00:04:16.280 completely running visa mills. And what we're doing is, you know, it's an onion and we're 0.61
00:04:21.420 peeling the onion back one piece at a time. And I will say thanks to so many across social media
00:04:27.560 networks and obviously the media, but doing conversations like this today are critically
00:04:32.940 important because we are depending on whistleblowers who have worked or been part of
00:04:38.060 some of these visa mills to provide us with the information that we need in order to conduct
00:04:43.160 these investigations. And that's exactly what's happening. I mean, every time we do an interview 0.75
00:04:47.620 or we put out a social media post, our hotline is ringing off the hook because people want to 0.97
00:04:52.680 tell the stories of the fact that they were part of a visa mill and this is how it operated or
00:04:57.540 they worked in a sector and they were unable to find a job because there were people from other
00:05:03.560 countries that were taking those jobs, getting paid substantially less. I mean, those that are 0.97
00:05:07.820 working on foreign visas historically are making between 35% and 40% less than an American worker.
00:05:14.540 So if you own a company and you have a couple of thousand H-1B visas and you're saving 40%
00:05:20.440 per person, that's a lot of money at the end of the year that's going into your pocket. So
00:05:24.480 we need to start peeling back this onion. And President Trump and Vice President Vance have
00:05:29.380 made it very clear that there's no fraud too small, no fraud too big. So we're working from
00:05:34.920 the top down, but we're also focusing on the smaller ones. I was in Texas just a couple of
00:05:39.080 weeks ago at an industrial park with an office building with, say, 30 units. Every office was
00:05:48.040 closed. The lights were off, but yet there were over 500 H-1B applications approved just in that
00:05:55.260 building. These are jobs that are being taken away from the American worker. We're peeling back the
00:06:00.160 Onion. We've recently suspended, I'm working side-by-side with Acting Secretary Keith Sonderling,
00:06:06.060 we suspended H-1B applications for both Cognizant and Cloudera. They are two of the companies that
00:06:13.180 you hear often who are violating H-1Bs, and we're going to continue again to peel back that onion,
00:06:18.700 and I would, it's safe to bet that there's going to be a lot more companies suspended in a very
00:06:23.320 short period of time. Well, I want to ask you more about that. Mr. Respecter, can we hold
00:06:30.140 you can we hold you over for one more segment because a lot of the stuff that you said about
00:06:34.040 i've got a lot of follow-up questions because this absolutely is absolutely huge stuff thank
00:06:39.140 you very much there okay we'll be right back we are up against a hard break here human events
00:06:44.800 daily on real america voice voice do not scroll away
00:07:00.140 And Jack, where is Jack?
00:07:23.560 Where is Jack?
00:07:25.800 Where is he?
00:07:27.260 Jack, I want to see you.
00:07:30.140 great job jack thank you what a job you do you know we have an incredible thing we're
00:07:36.140 always talking about the fake news and the bad but we have guys and these are the guys
00:07:40.700 who should be getting policies all right folks jack so we are back live here human events
00:07:48.660 daily once again we are honored to be on with u.s labor inspector general anthony d'esposito
00:07:54.040 now uh mr inspector general i wanted to you know let folks know tell us a little bit about
00:07:59.680 your background because you know like unlike others i think uh career politicians and other
00:08:05.040 and folks who have come into uh these various positions you actually have an investigatory
00:08:09.600 background yeah jack thanks for the question you know one of the things that i was uh kind of most
00:08:15.600 startled by when i was nominated by president trump to serve as the inspector general of labor
00:08:21.200 which i think labor probably has the broadest scope of investigatory powers of most of the
00:08:26.240 inspectors general is that uh a lot of them are you know not and not speaking ill of them but a
00:08:32.400 lot of them are uh you know careers or uh happen to be in government and sort of lawyers or um and
00:08:39.920 not many law enforcement not many investigators so i've been trying to change uh and and and
00:08:47.360 improve uh the way things are done here at the department of labor giving my investigators
00:08:52.080 There's a long leash of the ability to investigate things that matter to the American people.
00:08:57.600 And that's exactly what we're doing in this case.
00:09:00.540 And I've been asked many times, how far do you think you're going to be allowed to be able to push this?
00:09:06.100 And I will say that, you know, when President Trump signed the executive order back in March and put Vice President Vance in charge of this fraud test for us,
00:09:14.300 they made it very clear that they were going to unleash the whole government on fraud.
00:09:19.620 And while we see fraud in Medicaid and Medicare and employment insurance, this foreign visa fraud is also something that is really decimating jobs in the United States of America.
00:09:32.000 And what's better to focus on here at the Department of Labor than fraud that is actually taking American jobs from American workers?
00:09:39.920 President Trump made it clear during his campaign and obviously in this administration thus far that he was going to and is reigning in the golden age of the American worker.
00:09:50.160 He's going to do everything he can to give them better wages and have them have safer job sites.
00:09:56.660 And by investigating foreign visas, that's exactly what we're adding to.
00:10:01.860 You know, I said before, we're working really hand in glove with Acting Secretary Keith Sondling.
00:10:07.420 We worked with him to make sure that these companies that are under investigation are now being suspended from applying for H-1B visas.
00:10:18.800 And I can promise you that there's going to be many more companies to come because we are going to continue to peel back this onion.
00:10:25.180 We are going to continue to, you know, I'm going to continue to utilize the investigatory skills that I learned in the NYPD.
00:10:33.160 I was a decorated NYPD detective in Brooklyn, and it's different kinds of investigations.
00:10:39.160 Back then, I was doing gun trafficking and homicides and gang investigations.
00:10:44.480 But now, I'm taking those skills and hopefully bringing them to some of my investigators in the street to try to look at a different approach.
00:10:54.540 We're embracing technology, and we are going to do everything that we can.
00:10:59.020 And like I said before, as an NYPD detective, I was always told you exhaust every lead and follow every lead that you have until you can't anymore.
00:11:08.300 And that's exactly what I'm asking my investigators to do is to follow and exhaust those leads so that we can bring justice to the American people.
00:11:15.740 And if that means putting some of these CEOs and others in handcuffs, well, then so be it, because we said we were going to put the American worker first.
00:11:23.680 And that's exactly what we are going to do.
00:11:25.620 well i i couldn't agree more and the idea is now now walk us through some of this obviously
00:11:32.240 that building you just mentioned you said there was a building of 500 uh they said visas had
00:11:38.300 applied and and been issued i suppose to this uh this firm if i understand what you said correctly
00:11:43.380 and yet you went to the building you found that the building was empty so so what are these firms
00:11:48.580 doing where are the people well that's a good question and that's really what we're trying to
00:11:54.100 find out. I think that what's happening in places, like I said, we were on the ground
00:11:57.880 in Texas, went to this three-story building, probably 30 or 36 offices. Not one of them had
00:12:04.000 the lights on. Not one of them looked like anybody was there and there was mail piled up in front of
00:12:08.620 the doors. We actually did a news hit right in the hallway and weren't interrupted by anybody in
00:12:13.840 their office. And out of those 30 to 36 offices, there were close to 500 applications that were
00:12:21.460 approved for H-1B visas. So these are individuals that are applying for these, and I'm putting this
00:12:27.900 in quotes, tech companies that are supposed to be working in this building, but clearly
00:12:31.960 they are not performing the jobs that they're filling out on the applications. And that's what's
00:12:36.680 so helpful in this investigation, the fact that we can work with Acting Secretary Sondling and
00:12:42.760 the department, because the department is the one that's reviewing the applications before they go
00:12:47.920 to Homeland Security. So we have the data, we have the information, and we are going to start
00:12:53.100 working and peeling through each one of these documents to find out what these people are
00:12:58.260 doing. I mean, we visited some restaurants in Texas where there were individuals on H-1B visas
00:13:04.080 that were applied for by the restaurant, and they were working as waiter, waitresses, or
00:13:10.200 hostesses. And now, no disrespect to anyone in the service industry, before I was a cop,
00:13:16.340 I worked in the service industry, but we do not need people from foreign countries on H-1B visas working in the service industry. 0.76
00:13:24.240 Those are jobs for Americans that are going through school or really any American that is looking to pick up some extra cash in the service industry.
00:13:33.700 So there is no question that these foreign labor visas are being exploited and extorted.
00:13:39.380 And we are also seeing parallels to what we saw across the southern border.
00:13:43.580 The Biden-Harris administration allowed close to 15 million people to pour over our southern
00:13:49.800 border. And many of those people, I served on the House Homeland Security Committee when I was in
00:13:54.080 Congress, many of those individuals were held hostage by cartels and coyotes. Well, we're
00:13:59.960 seeing the same thing. We are seeing transnational criminal organizations as the catalysts of the
00:14:06.880 individuals that are being brought into this country to work. They're holding their H-1Bs 0.95
00:14:11.820 visas hostage. They are taking some of their wages. They're making them live in really
00:14:17.260 crappy conditions. And what we're also seeing is when their H-1B visa expires,
00:14:23.180 they're making it very clear to these individuals, listen, we'll keep you here and you can work and
00:14:28.200 we won't tell anybody that your visa is expired. But if you were making $20 an hour, now we're
00:14:32.740 going to pay you $5 an hour. And many of these individuals, unfortunately, are staying because
00:14:37.420 They want to be in America and they want to make the wage. But again, these are jobs for Americans.
00:14:42.280 So not only are we focused on the jobs that are being taken away from Americans, but we're also focused on the crimes that are being committed while the visas are being extorted and exploited, whether it's human and child trafficking, whether it's being utilized by transnational criminal organizations.
00:15:00.680 Like I said, it is a wide net that we are casting, but I am confident in my investigators.
00:15:07.000 I'm confident in the work that we're doing, and we will, when the time comes, collaborate
00:15:11.620 with other investigative agencies to make sure that we get the job done.
00:15:17.220 President Trump, again, made it clear that this is the golden age of the American worker,
00:15:21.260 and we are going to do our part to help President Trump deliver on that promise by making sure 0.85
00:15:27.040 that those who are completely utilizing these foreign labor visas for criminal acts and for
00:15:33.960 taking away American jobs, we're going to hold them accountable. And like I said, where it fits,
00:15:39.500 we will have handcuffs waiting for those who are committing the crimes.
00:15:43.940 Well, I appreciate you saying that because it's something that I've spoken about. Well,
00:15:48.480 in the past, I've talked about the J-1 visa program, for example, just obviously should
00:15:53.160 be abolished. Just, I'd say from a personal level, the thing is rife with abuse because,
00:15:58.080 and to your point that there are levels of this with the F suite of visas, which includes student
00:16:03.520 visas, and as well as the H-1B, the HB, which are all worker visas, that, you know, I suppose there
00:16:10.180 is a bit of a gray area where it goes from exploiting labor to just outright labor, human
00:16:17.200 trafficking, because they bring people over and then suddenly it's, you know, you thought you
00:16:22.020 were doing one job, now you're doing something else. Or perhaps the actual task that they have
00:16:26.120 someone scheduled for or slated for is not what they're doing at all. And of course, why do the
00:16:31.720 people stay? Because they want to be able to stay in the United States. So these visa holders have 0.92
00:16:37.800 the, or let's just say the visa managers have the ultimate leverage over them. And I think it's,
00:16:43.460 and by the way, Mr. Spectral, you're far from the first IG who's brought this up. The Trump
00:16:49.700 administration certainly is not the first administration to call it out, but it seems
00:16:52.840 like the past ones weren't actually doing much about it. Well, we're doing things about it.
00:16:57.840 We've already issued dozens of subpoenas. We've executed search warrants throughout the country.
00:17:04.260 And I will tell you, without getting into too much detail on these investigations,
00:17:09.420 these search warrants have also yielded positive results to other crimes like guns and narcotics.
00:17:16.000 So we are we are doing something about it. And like I said, we're going to continue to press on.
00:17:21.620 And thankfully, we have the support of President Trump and Vice President Vance's fraud task force that's run out of the White House.
00:17:28.280 They are making sure that we have the resources necessary.
00:17:31.600 And this is an opportunity for an inspector general, which I guess historically hasn't really happened.
00:17:37.400 But this is an opportunity for an inspector general to work with their cabinet secretary to get the job done.
00:17:43.980 People have said that they never thought that companies like Cognizant and Cloudera would be suspended, but yet we delivered on that promise, and they are suspended pending investigation, and there will be more to come.
00:17:56.840 And I know you mentioned J-1 visas, and I don't want to tease it, but stay tuned for more on that, because some of the preeminent universities and colleges throughout the United States of America are completely exploiting the J-1 visa program.
00:18:13.620 And we have information that's tying those individuals that are here on J-1 visas that are legitimately pouring money back to places like China and funding the CCP.
00:18:25.440 So we have a lot of work being done in the foreign labor.
00:18:28.980 Like I said, it's a team effort here in the Department of Labor with Acting Secretary Sondling.
00:18:34.900 And we would not be able to do it without the support of the fraud task force led by President Trump and Vice President Vance.
00:18:42.060 Mr. Inspector General, where can people go?
00:18:43.900 You mentioned whistleblowers.
00:18:45.100 You mentioned getting the assistance of the public.
00:18:47.240 Where can people go to make these reports and help out what you're doing?
00:18:51.480 Yeah, head to our DOL OIG website.
00:18:54.460 It's anonymous.
00:18:55.840 There's also a hotline on there that you can call.
00:18:58.460 And obviously, if any questions, you can reach out to us on social media. 0.73
00:19:02.360 And we'll be happy to provide you with the information to drop a dime on those that are stealing jobs from American women.
00:19:08.680 Amen. God bless and Godspeed to you, Mr. Inspector General.
00:19:12.180 And for everyone in the chats, you know something, say something.
00:19:15.900 Right back, Human Events Daily with Marcus Voice.
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00:21:01.640 So folks, what we need to drill down, and I want to thank the inspector general for coming on and
00:21:13.420 And we got him on very short notice.
00:21:15.060 We just reached out really, you know, really only a few days ago, excuse me, a few hours
00:21:19.560 before the show, and we were able to make it happen.
00:21:22.820 The latest news that has dropped here on something that, as you know, I wrote the very first
00:21:32.600 book on, along with Joshua Lysak, the first assassination attempt of President Trump,
00:21:37.480 Thomas Matthew Crooks, Butler, PA.
00:21:40.860 The book, of course, is bulletproof and was honored to actually have the endorsement of Charlie Kirk on that book.
00:21:49.160 Well, huge, huge trove of information dropped just last night.
00:21:56.120 And I'm going to be honest, I don't even think I've been able to get through the entire thing yet with everything that's going on.
00:22:02.100 But I've got the highlights for everyone because the team here at Human Events Daily has put together an incredible briefing for all of us here.
00:22:10.920 Listen to this.
00:22:12.160 An anonymous donor paid for the cremation of Thomas Matthew Crooks.
00:22:17.960 And guys, if we can, let's get that image up from Thomas Crooks, not in his high school photo here, but actually what he looked like on the day of the shooting when he was walking around.
00:22:28.580 And here's the video.
00:22:29.400 Yes.
00:22:29.640 and you can see he's he's put on more muscle his hair is longer he just appears more menacing he's
00:22:37.800 got that look on his face now you may remember that if you see in the background actually if
00:22:41.640 you can freeze that b-roll for a second guys you can actually see in the background that's perfect
00:22:47.060 shot thank you that's a turning point action logo right behind him you see the swoosh that is the
00:22:53.080 turning point action logo and i remember watching this very clip and i saw that logo and i said wait
00:22:58.000 a minute. That's, that's Western PA picked the phone. And I made the call to our field reps
00:23:05.820 there on the ground in Pennsylvania. And I said, what's going on? Were you guys manning the table
00:23:10.860 that day? They said, yes. And I said, do you remember a man who looked like this coming by?
00:23:15.780 And I showed them the photo. They also said yes. And here's, what's very interesting. They said
00:23:20.740 he was almost emotionless, but he had a bit of condescension to him. And what's incredible is
00:23:30.100 that the information that's coming out today says that his father revealed that his son was
00:23:36.520 emotionalist, this is Matthew Crooks, the father of Thomas Matthew Crooks, was emotionalist from
00:23:41.000 the day he was born, that he rarely cried, never laughed, and apparently was known for harming pets.
00:23:50.740 when he was younger. Now, listen to this. President Trump weighing in earlier this morning.
00:23:57.300 Everyone knows the crooked Joe Biden FBI didn't do what they should have with respect to the
00:24:02.080 lunatic who shot me in Butler, PA. By the time I got into office in January 20th, most of the
00:24:07.900 information was missing, altered, corrupted or gone. New information was just found out.
00:24:15.480 Why wasn't it seen long ago?
00:24:17.760 This was all a Democrat plot to get me out of the election that failed.
00:24:23.180 Dirty cop Christopher Wray should pay a price for the way he handled this assassination attempt and clearly for the things he said.
00:24:30.300 God bless America. 0.72
00:24:31.300 Make America great again, President Donald J. Trump.
00:24:33.500 Now, when he's referring to the things that Christopher Wray said, I want to remind you all, and if you read the bulletproof book, you would know exactly what I'm referring to.
00:24:41.480 This is the fact that Christopher Wray, in the hours and when he was brought back to the U.S. Congress to testify on the assassination attempt, Christopher Wray spread the left wing lie that President Trump had not been shot.
00:24:59.060 And he implied that President Trump had been grazed by broken glass from one of his teleprompters that was there on the stage during the Butler shooting.
00:25:09.800 Now, anyone who has two eyes or even one eye can watch the video and see that the teleprompters are fully intact and this that this lie was a disgusting lie from the pit of hell itself, that they lied about the violence from the left that had been going on in this country, building and building and building.
00:25:32.920 And then eventually erupted with the assassination attempt at Butler, the next assassination attempt at Trump International, the assassination attempt at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, and then, of course, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, of which we just passed the one-year mark.
00:25:52.460 these people are evil the book is called unhumans for a reason because that is the demonic force
00:26:00.460 that we are dealing with we are dealing with an unhuman force so this information
00:26:06.380 using bob dole as a pseudonym on gun parts it is spilling out now and we need to dig deeper
00:26:15.120 president trump now saying a democrat plot a left-wing plot to kill trump before
00:26:22.360 he could take the election in 2024 and thomas matthew crooks was the tip of that spear
00:26:30.580 incensed radicalized targeted he had a plan he had a plan to shoot the president of the united
00:26:43.840 states and he very nearly succeeded if not for the grace of god and the protection of saint michael
00:26:50.520 archangel that day in butler pennsylvania so of course we're going to get a full report on all
00:26:57.560 of that for you and more as we as well as everyone else continue to dig through with
00:27:03.160 We're at Jack Posobiec right back here at Human Events Daily.
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00:29:38.880 Well, folks, now, as I was just talking about there, you know, we look at the way that things have been kicking off in terms of the Middle East.
00:29:46.980 We're looking around the Arabian Peninsula, and it looks like all corners of the Arabian Peninsula are now aflame.
00:29:54.420 The war is now threatening MBS and his ability to maintain his crown princehood, if you will.
00:30:01.000 And the Houthis, the Houthis have come online at the southern strait of the Red Sea,
00:30:06.620 known as the Babu Mendeb Strait or the Gate of Grief.
00:30:10.280 And the Houthis are pushing hard to now close that yet again.
00:30:15.380 And of course, we saw them conducting attacks even at the Suez Canal.
00:30:18.780 So the northern mouth of the Red Sea.
00:30:21.160 What does this mean? That Iran and their proxies are now putting pressure on both sides of the Saudi Arabian, the Saudi Peninsula. 0.57
00:30:29.600 They're now putting pressure on the Saudi pipeline as well as strikes from Iraq.
00:30:33.460 I want to bring on now the executive director of the American Conservative magazine, Kurt Mills, to kind of walk us through and give us an overview of where things stand.
00:30:43.720 Kurt, how are you?
00:30:45.080 I'm doing well, Jack. Thanks for having me.
00:30:47.020 Happy to. So, you know, I've got the I've got the big map up here. Folks know I love a good map break. And I think it does really cut through the rhetoric where we can see that, again, this is the big asymmetric advantage that Iran and their proxy forces, their their friends and allies in the region have.
00:31:08.520 And, you know, people thinking, you know, what's Yemen? What's Yemen? Why do I care about Yemen? How's it connected? Well, I point out that Yemen is directly adjacent to the southern mouth of the Red Sea and can cut off all shipping through the Red Sea the same way the Strait of Hormuz has been squeezed. Perhaps it's a little bit of a better explanation.
00:31:29.420 Yeah. So, I mean, look, the Iranians themselves shrink from the term proxies. They claim that
00:31:37.000 the Houthis are not directly a proxy of the Iranians. And I think the term perhaps
00:31:40.940 slightly overstates the relationship. They are definitely a client of Tehran. There's support,
00:31:46.520 material and otherwise financial. But the Houthis have made their own calls on a series of different
00:31:53.700 decisions. And I think the evidence of that is that they haven't gotten in to the war in a major
00:31:58.040 way until this point. If you sort of rewind back, your audience may recall that actually
00:32:05.260 the Trump administration went to war, or at least a long skirmish with the Houthis, before
00:32:10.700 they went after the Iranians. There was the bombing campaign that culminated in the Signal
00:32:15.280 Gate scandal in the spring of 2025. This is before any hot war with the Iranians really 0.96
00:32:21.440 started. And the U.S. concluded, I think, that number one, that this is potentially
00:32:26.320 more an Israeli problem than an American problem, as we, I think, saw in the signal gate chats
00:32:30.640 themselves. But second of all, that these guys are determined fighters. These are the hillbillies of
00:32:36.140 the Middle East, to be honest. There are similarities between these fighters. I think
00:32:41.220 spiritually, it's sort of a qualitative argument with the people of Appalachia in some ways. And,
00:32:45.600 you know, they're going to fight for their land and they have been a plucky enemy of the United
00:32:48.860 States, but moreover of Saudi Arabia, their chief rival in the region. And you see for all of the
00:32:55.360 munitions and all of the money that has been thrown the Saudis' ways over the years.
00:32:59.920 You know, if there's nobody to operate these jets, if the military is not ready for this
00:33:03.180 kind of showdown, you know, Yemen is like the Viet Cong, or sort of the Houthis are
00:33:07.720 like the Viet Cong, and they are determined allies of the Saudis. 0.97
00:33:10.880 And this is coming just in time for the Iranians, because, of course, the Iranians are keeping 0.91
00:33:15.400 Hormuz relatively closed. 1.00
00:33:17.440 And this is now a second straight, a second theater to disrupt global oil.
00:33:21.700 And that's why you're seeing the spike over 100 again. Remember, over the summer, they really kept this thing in the high 70s, low 80s.
00:33:29.500 We have seen, you know, a 25 percent increase in either Brent or WTI over the last week.
00:33:36.020 Well, and so and that's why we're seeing that squeeze, because not only are they putting pressure on now both straits, but what's what's the situation with this this pipeline strike?
00:33:45.960 And I know at first the some of the Shia militia groups out of Iraq were sort of, you know, or I guess the government of Iraq was saying that, you know, those strikes didn't come from our territory.
00:33:56.140 But now they've kind of admitted that they have because they've got this sort of rocky relationship, the government of Iraq, where they're obviously very close with Iran, but also close with the United States.
00:34:06.780 So the pipeline strategy writ large has been what facets of the business community and facets of, I would say, the Iran hawk community have been selling as a way to circumnavigate the Strait of Hormuz and all of these different choke points going into the future.
00:34:24.360 And so I think what is crucial here is that they are showing what was speculation before. 0.78
00:34:30.100 Can't the Iranians or their allies just bomb these pipelines as they're being built or as their construction? 0.97
00:34:35.360 And I think the answer is yes. So the primacy of water, the primacy of these choke points is not going away. 0.99
00:34:41.700 And so they bombed this pipeline and it's it's it's not so good.
00:34:45.840 I think there's a lack of clarity on exactly who was behind it.
00:34:50.180 There has been some reporting that it was actually the Iraqi PMF, which is an enormous militia, at least by the size of their inventory, where they self-report, over 100,000 in Iraq.
00:35:01.600 Either way, these are allies, if you prefer, of the Iranians that are helping them out in their time of need. 0.54
00:35:08.640 Well, that's exactly right.
00:35:09.960 And of course, as a as a prior naval officer, you know, I've I've always said that these folks keep wanting to think that you can you know, you can get away without sea power, that you can somehow, you know, go around it or go over it or go through space or we're not going to need it anymore.
00:35:25.500 And we just haven't found anything yet that can really beat whether it's ocean going traffic in terms of the cost, in terms of time, in terms of ability.
00:35:37.620 It's something I point out, even with data, people think, oh, Elon Musk has got Starlink up, and so communications are all running through satellites in outer space.
00:35:46.440 It's not true at all.
00:35:48.040 90 percent of communications is done through undersea cables at this point, the same way that over 90 percent of goods are still shipped on the open seas.
00:35:58.200 And, of course, at a time where I'd love to have a conversation about globalism and whether or not that's a good idea, because I think we are seeing the issues with it right now.
00:36:08.380 No, for sure. And again, not to just reference the year old scandal, the signal gate thing, but that was actually as revealed. It's now public record. That's what Vice President Vance was saying in the signal gate chats against other administration officials, which is like, actually, how much US trade actually goes through here? Isn't this kind of a European problem? You know, maybe is this an Israeli problem? I think he was the one bringing that to the question. I think it raises large questions. You know, what are we doing bailing out the Saudis? What are we doing bailing out the Israelis? What are we doing in this part of the world?
00:36:37.300 And what we're seeing, the Houthis particularly, I think it's always a fine line between a seasoned army or a seasoned fighting force and an exhausted one. 0.83
00:36:46.200 But I think very similar enough to the Taliban or HTS in Syria, these guys have been fighting a war for over a decade and they're battle heartened and their Saudi antagonists are not.
00:36:58.360 And Saudis in a bind, you know, they could sue for peace with the Houthis, which is a humiliation for the crown prince.
00:37:06.300 Or they could potentially take a bailout, probably most likely, I would say, from the Israelis.
00:37:11.860 They already asked Washington, and apparently President Trump has declined to do that.
00:37:15.380 And when I say a bailout, I say a military bailout, so like, you know, Air Force, air power.
00:37:20.600 But the problem is Jerusalem or Tel Aviv is going to extract the concession that Saudi has to recognize Israel,
00:37:28.180 the right, Israel's right to exist, that it exists, make the same call that the UAE did.
00:37:32.320 And I just don't think the Crown Prince is in the position to do that.
00:37:34.580 remember uh the crown prince is the de facto leader of saudi arabia but his father is still alive
00:37:39.700 and so if he messes it up uh it could affect the succession and if there is a and it could
00:37:46.420 yeah it could be pushed over to one of his cousins who are actually quite quite older than him and
00:37:51.140 in fact his his line his uh his uh claim is is a bit tenuous to begin with just because of the way
00:37:57.380 that um uh tenuous right because of the way that they're aligned to succession their game of thrones
00:38:01.700 is a little bit different than the British Game of Thrones if it goes off of generations,
00:38:06.720 not necessarily direct descendants. Right back, one more segment with Kurt Mills,
00:38:11.040 the American conservative, Human Events Daily.
00:38:22.140 This is the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour. I can say confidently, I believe,
00:38:26.380 I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobiec. And that
00:38:30.560 That is, I'll be honest.
00:38:36.840 All right, folks, Jack, we're still be back.
00:38:38.400 Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice, finishing up our interview, going around the horn of the Middle East here with Kurt Mills from the American Conservative.
00:38:46.780 And Kurt, last question to you is it's how how does this affect the midterms?
00:38:52.100 And and in in relation to that, the inverse, I suppose, also true.
00:38:55.760 how are the midterms affecting the military campaign? Because it seems
00:39:00.140 that Iran's allies are ratcheting the pressure up as we hurdle closer to the midterm elections. 0.94
00:39:08.740 Society and their decision making, I think it's pretty clear that the midterms are an explicit
00:39:12.840 facet of Iranian military and political strategy. They want to grind Trump, they want to pressure 0.86
00:39:18.420 him, and they view as waiting for the midterms, or I should say fastest within their cadre,
00:39:25.100 trade's view, waiting for after the midterms is reporting disaster. After Trump, you know,
00:39:29.400 takes his test, he'll be freed up to escalate or deescalate, potentially escalate ruinously from 0.84
00:39:34.900 the Iranian perspective. And they want to head that off. I think that the reality is that it's 0.98
00:39:42.560 also a facet of a lot of other American antagonists. The Chinese, of course, Xi Jinping
00:39:47.780 is coming to Washington here in town in a few days. I think the Chinese are also going to grind 1.00
00:39:52.960 trump has potentially he senses out that the united states is overextended of all these wars 0.91
00:39:57.680 that trump is overextended um and so i think it is an actual strategy and of course we have open
00:40:03.680 elections in a way that these societies do not and these countries are authoritarian systems
00:40:08.320 and they view it as an actual political advantage but they don't have uh such uh routine verdicts
00:40:13.840 on their leadership and so i think it is i think it is part of it yeah yeah it is kurt where can
00:40:19.520 can people go to follow you? Yeah. So the magazine is www.theamericanconservative.com,
00:40:25.760 founded by Pat Buchanan and friends against the Iraq war in 2002 for my own personal work. And
00:40:31.060 I'm head of the firm. It is at Kurt Mills at C-U-R-T-M-I-L-S on X Twitter. And, you know,
00:40:37.760 it's 2026. Just Google me. Thanks so much, Kurt. All right, folks. Now, as we're talking about
00:40:44.120 the midterm elections, what better way than to segue to our next guest? Of course, you guys know
00:40:50.520 him. It's the great Joe Bob needs no further introduction. The host of course of turning
00:40:55.780 point tonight. What's up, Joe Bob. What's up, man? How you doing? I'm doing phenomenal. It's
00:41:00.740 great to see you last week, by the way, at headquarters. Obviously I wish it was under
00:41:04.120 different conditions, but you know, while we were there, we had a chance to sit down with Tyler
00:41:08.240 and the team over at turning point action. And they've been telling me a lot about this new
00:41:13.980 commit 100 program that action is putting out for specifically the midterm elections, how people can
00:41:21.180 get involved the same way we did in 2024. And I wanted to get you on to kind of lay that out for
00:41:26.440 us. Yeah. So, I mean, first thing, the super broad strokes of it, you know, as well as I do,
00:41:32.340 Charlie was unique in the sense that he figured out how to bifurcate this media angle and then
00:41:38.200 the actual election angle. I feel like there's so many people involved in the talking space and the
00:41:43.520 media world that don't actually know how campaigns are won. They kind of talk about policy and
00:41:48.380 ideology and all that stuff is great, but it really, it goes nowhere unless you actually win
00:41:53.640 elections. So Turning Point Actions Commit 100 is just one of the many facets that Charlie had
00:41:59.640 as to figure out how to actually get people that are favorable to the cause elected into office.
00:42:06.720 It effectively, the basics of it is, look, we're going to ask people at the grassroots level to
00:42:12.780 go find a hundred low propensity voters who are registered the correct way are going to vote the
00:42:18.880 right way, but just sometimes don't make it to the polls for whatever reasons. Go flag those down,
00:42:24.580 track those, those folks down, get them to vote to make sure they vote, whether it's, you know,
00:42:28.600 handing them the ballot, depending on the state that you're in or getting them to actually mail
00:42:32.200 their ballot in or show up to a polling place. Uh, whatever, whatever the, the process is get
00:42:38.040 people actually to vote. So Turning Point Actions, Commit 100, they're in a couple different swing
00:42:43.600 states, specifically Arizona, New Hampshire, and Nevada. And getting out in your local neighborhood
00:42:49.920 is how elections are run. We talk a lot about federal policy, federal politics, but the people
00:42:55.800 in your neighborhood are going to be the ones who actually decide elections, which is what Charlie
00:43:00.820 was so passionate about and what Turning Point Action is really, really working hard to do.
00:43:05.160 and and it's so simple to go through so it's tp action so folks remember turning point action
00:43:11.080 is the political arm and you go to tpaction.com commit 100 in fact i think if you actually go
00:43:16.900 to tpaction.com slash 100 it will pop up as well so tpaction.com slash 100 now for some
00:43:23.900 folks if you want to actually travel to these battleground states if you want to go to places
00:43:28.560 like arizona new hampshire uh nevada i think we're actually working i'm working at some
00:43:33.580 dates in new hampshire myself as well as some of the others you can actually physically go to them
00:43:38.820 and but if not if you're out of those states you want to travel you want to get involved in other
00:43:43.080 ways this is a perfect way to do it you can do it from your own home anywhere in the country and
00:43:48.500 there's even the turning point action app that people can download uh joe tell people about the
00:43:54.800 app and how it makes it so easy for them to be able to just do this stuff from their phone so
00:44:00.060 So this is, it's unbelievable in the way, just user friendliness, right?
00:44:04.920 So I came out of running campaigns.
00:44:06.680 We would run campaigns, would use different apps.
00:44:09.500 I don't need to get into the nitty gritty of what those apps were like, but they didn't work a lot of the times.
00:44:14.800 And so, yeah, you know, short of being on the ground, knocking on doors, like you said, you can travel.
00:44:19.720 Lodging can be accommodated if you go to TP Action slash commit 100.
00:44:24.400 But really, there's also this huge advantage that we have now that we didn't have in the past, which is the app that can allow you to do a bunch of different things, track down ballots.
00:44:35.580 I think there's phone banking also in there where you can do some phone banking specifically from the app.
00:44:40.380 It categorizes everything for you.
00:44:42.440 It puts it in this like super easy, intuitive interface that allows really anyone from anywhere to participate in the actual political process.
00:44:52.180 Listening is great.
00:44:53.280 tuning into the news is great but actually getting involved in the people in in the election process
00:44:58.740 that gets people like-minded people into office is where uh people can be extremely important and
00:45:04.580 valuable and this is what charlie was all about right charlie would have and i i was saying this
00:45:11.580 all last week you know that charlie actually always used to say that we should have midterm
00:45:15.880 conventions that this was actually something that i i have to think he was probably the first person
00:45:20.660 I ever heard say it. I don't know if if that's, you know, the genesis of why they held the first
00:45:25.840 one this last week. But he always said that we need something for when you're right at that
00:45:31.800 Labor Day point, when you're getting kind of getting done summer, people are going back to
00:45:34.940 school, people are clocking back in with with work in the fall is that, boom, suddenly there's
00:45:40.500 this shootout to the election. And it's like, oh, my gosh, the election's in six weeks. What are we
00:45:45.620 going to do? How are we going to build things? That's why Turning Point Action exists, because
00:45:49.700 it gives you the ability to take action in your own area or to go to another area you could be
00:45:55.040 the leader of your precinct of course and it's something that i remember in 2024 that charlie
00:46:00.160 would be going around if he was in a car he was talking to the driver if he was going out to eat
00:46:04.500 he was talking to people at the restaurant he was chasing ballots literally anywhere he was
00:46:09.240 even and he would he would like text me or or just whoever be like oh i got that we need to
00:46:14.780 get a ballot to this guy and you know he's uh you know i just he was driving and he's a great guy
00:46:19.040 we got to give him his ballot and make sure he's a citizen, you know, obviously, you know,
00:46:23.940 if it's like an Uber driver or something, I'm like, yeah, uh, okay, man, like I'll do it. But
00:46:27.860 it was just, it just became like a habit. And I think that that's part of what committed 100 is
00:46:33.340 about. So with Charlie, it would be like commit 100,000, right? We're not asking for everyone to
00:46:38.720 do that. Just commit 100, just a hundred. That's, that's nowhere near as many. Yeah. And this is
00:46:43.440 all this is all great and this is like the carrot in this uh this sales pitch uh but really the
00:46:48.680 stick is that democrats are out in full force doing that right they they don't have kids they
00:46:53.320 don't have family so all they have is time and they will go out and canvas areas and the only
00:46:58.400 way that we can compete with that is to do it ourselves it's it's fantastic the turning point
00:47:03.380 action kind of set up an apparatus that gives really anybody the ability to do that but yes
00:47:09.400 It's great. We want people to win. But keep in mind, too, the other push factor is the fact that Democrats are out there in full force because, again, they don't have anything meaningful to do with their lives.
00:47:20.020 So they just go knock on doors. And we need to compete with that. We need to we need to do the same, if not more.
00:47:26.460 And the best way to do that is go to tpaction.com slash commit 100.
00:47:31.520 Appreciate it, man. Joe Bob, where can they follow you? And of course, remind people where they can see you.
00:47:35.660 J-O-B-O-B.
00:47:36.800 It's a very, very odd name, but it does make it relatively easy to find me over the internet.
00:47:40.860 Also, 7 p.m. Pacific, 10 p.m. Eastern, right here on Real America's Voice.
00:47:45.080 Thanks for having me.
00:47:46.700 Of course.
00:47:47.420 And we all remember Joe Bob's got the name from his fathers, Joe and Bob.
00:47:51.160 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay a short.
00:48:04.840 We'll be right back.