00:03:53.280But now that the charges have been formally filed, that Tyler Robinson has been formally indicted, he has pled not guilty at this time.
00:04:04.600The preliminary evidence has been shown to the entire world, of course, and shown in court.
00:04:10.840now it makes sense because that hadn't happened yet none of that had happened prior to just what
00:04:16.100two weeks ago now and so it makes sense that now and of course with the one-year anniversary
00:04:23.340also coinciding with all of that which i'm not even sure how to explain how those sorts of
00:04:31.900things happen and god has a plan that's that's we're all just subject to it and that's now one
00:04:38.960year out one year out the lawsuit coming forward on the civil side saying that look and and a lot
00:04:45.660of the questions people have asked me i've i've i've asked questions as well from obviously the
00:04:50.840day that it happened the moment that it happened how could this have occurred um obvious question
00:04:58.900was were the roofs the jurisdiction were they the responsibility of the campus police they were
00:05:06.220There's no question about that. It's obvious. And it's also obvious that they were not covered
00:05:11.940and certainly not covered in terms of the buildings that had a line of sight
00:05:15.460from where Charlie was sitting and where he was holding his event and in the courtyard there.
00:05:23.800And in addition, the lack of drones, the fact that the campus PD didn't have drones up that,
00:05:31.020And I would very much like to know, just on a personal level, did the campus PD reach out to the Orem PD, who, from my understanding, has a very well-developed and very sophisticated drone program?
00:05:47.740I'd very much like to know that because I was told, or it's my understanding at least, that the TPUSA drones, because TPUSA, of course, obviously has lots of cameras when we hold events and even does have a number of drones for filming, not for security purposes, but for filming, you know, crowd size, crowd shots, that kind of thing.
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00:09:58.440unsearchable. And by the way, it just occurs to me while I'm talking about this that
00:10:02.660we're about to go and talk to Andrew Branca and talk about the Lindsay Clancy juror and the
00:10:11.240Lindsay Clancy loan juror getting doxxed. His Gibson Go, which I've been driving just online
00:10:19.080everywhere, is now up to a quarter of a million dollars. And of course, he was doxxed. But perhaps
00:10:26.640he wouldn't have been if he had Patriot Protect. And so I'm just going to say right now that if
00:10:31.860it's at all possible, I would love and be honored to have Human Events Daily to be able to sponsor
00:10:38.680a Patriot Protect account for the loan holdout. And so that if his information is still out there
00:10:47.540on these pages, that we'll be able to get it down and do that. And so I'm just calling an
00:10:54.440audible here and saying guys let's uh let's see what we can do to connect the dots behind the
00:10:58.260scenes to see if we can see if we can do some some good there but i want to get andrew branco
00:11:03.560on andrew how are you i'm doing great man thanks for having me back well of course so so obviously
00:11:10.800so much has changed in in the aftermath of the lindsey clancy i think before last time we had
00:11:16.440you on um it had not gone to a mistrial we thought it was about to go to a mistrial it did go to a
00:11:21.880mistrial. Now there's been all of this background about the loan holdout. I don't want to use his
00:11:30.120name. I don't, I just, I don't want to use that here, but he has come forward in a limited sense
00:11:36.260already. And we do know that he's Haitian. We know that he is a, that he's Catholic. That's
00:11:45.280his family has talked about that. And it turns out that reportedly he's also a registered
00:11:51.980Republican. And there's been some some more information that's coming out. He's he is sort
00:11:56.640of talking, but not on camera yet and releasing some photos to folks. Walk us through this whole
00:12:03.680situation that we're looking at where, you know, people are there were some people who are mad at
00:12:08.240me for raising the money. There's people doxing jurors now. It seems like the entire system of
00:12:14.580the way we hold trials is completely changed? Well, I mean, the left is resorting to its old
00:12:20.300cancel culture techniques, right? They'll try to destroy this guy in the public mind.
00:12:25.000If they do a retrial of Lindsay Clancy, which I expect they will, everybody who's called for jury
00:12:30.640duty is going to know that if they don't vote the right way, and the right way is however the0.97
00:12:35.080progressive Massachusetts feminists want them to vote, meaning, of course, not guilty, Lindsay1.00
00:12:40.520clancy for having murdered her three children brutally uh if they don't vote the right way1.00
00:12:44.620consistent with a non-guilty verdict they can expect their life to be destroyed too
00:12:48.820well and that's that's and so this is what i saw some people saying that so it was you know
00:12:55.820people were saying that if and i guess these are lindsey clancy supporters i don't know they were
00:13:00.940saying that me raising money for the holdout juror was creating was potentially me breaking
00:13:08.520the law because oh i'm offering somebody money because of their vote uh on a jury and i said
00:13:14.460and i looked at i said well how does that make any sense if the votes already happened i don't
00:13:19.620understand how that's interfering if if the vote has already occurred right it doesn't make any
00:13:24.580sense uh you know the statute that would apply here it's 13b under massachusetts law it it it
00:13:31.100really addresses jury intimidation uh attempting to manipulate how a juror might vote if you had
00:13:36.780been raising money for him and he knew money was being raised before he had rendered his vote in
00:13:42.320the mistrial, that might have been manipulation of a juror. But of course, you didn't. None of
00:13:47.660this was happening until after the mistrial had occurred, after he was no longer a voting juror
00:13:53.860in those deliberations. So it's completely meaningless. It could not have been any kind
00:13:58.380of manipulation of a juror. But so, you know, there is an interesting, I've thought about this
00:14:04.720for a while, though. And I'm not very clear about this. My lawyer's present that I'm not advocating
00:14:14.280for this. But as a thought experiment, couldn't there perhaps be a danger that people create
00:14:20.780these sorts of things for on both sides of a case and and say, oh, well, here's a pot of money.
00:14:26.820If the case turns out this it's like we have these prediction markets, right, the betting markets.
00:14:30.720And let's use the betting markets as an example, that what if there was a situation where somebody placed a huge amount on there being a mistrial and then that person finds their way onto a jury, right?
00:14:44.440So now suddenly all the interest gives you potentially access to a higher – you're growing your pot of money in terms of your payout if you get the mistrial and you're on the jury.
00:14:55.680So it's creating these perverse incentives into our system that didn't exist when our system was invented.
00:15:02.760Right. So this particular statute about jury intimidation, it was first made into law in 1969.
00:15:09.700It very much predates the Internet era, the social media fundraising era.
00:15:14.120And, of course, what really matters here is the expectation of the juror.
00:15:18.720If they come to believe that even though there's no funding being done for them during the trial, but if they vote the right way, that will be done.
00:15:26.900It's no different than when the left does these book contracts with their, like for Hillary Clinton, they give her $20 million to write a book that no one will read.
00:15:36.400They don't have to tell her they're going to do that, right?
00:15:40.940That's how they transfer wealth to the members of their team after they're out of political office.
00:15:46.180And the same could be true of jurors, and that would have an influence effect upon them.
00:15:54.460Well, and it's and of course, that's that's that's what they're all talking about.
00:15:57.640They say, oh, money didn't change exchange hands until after the presidency ended.
00:16:02.640But of course, you know, we can all look at that and say, well, there's there's a perception of impropriety here or the same with Hunter Biden being on the board of Burisma during his father's vice presidency.
00:16:13.620while his his father was setting Ukraine policy. A lot of these questions, of course, with the
00:16:19.400Ukraine were going on as to whether or not that played a role. And by the way, you know, I still
00:16:24.480yet to see anyone question actually question Biden about this. And so when we look at some of these
00:16:30.320things, you know, obviously, I am not in support of Jack Posobiec being arrested for this when it
00:16:37.000comes down to it. But at the same time, I I do think that there is a problem that if someone
00:16:42.600were to do this during a trial or before a trial, obviously there's another trial going on
00:16:49.400that will be going on that unless there's a plea deal or something, which I could very well see
00:16:55.020in this case, by the way, that that that potentially you could create these huge issues
00:17:01.520because to your point, we didn't have the Internet. We didn't have social media. We didn't have all of
00:17:07.020these things when the system was created yeah and just imagine the vote had been reversed right
00:17:13.260there'd been 11 votes for guilty and one holdout juror sorry 11 votes for yeah 11 votes for guilty
00:17:20.220one holdout juror for not guilty so there was a mistrial that favored uh lindsey clancy the left
00:17:25.640would have raised a million dollars for their champion holdout juror who did the right thing
00:17:30.780and made sure that lindsey clancy was not convicted for the murder of her children0.96
00:17:34.160So it all depends on whose ox is being gored.
00:17:40.420And obviously this creates, the issue with this is our system, our system was created at a time in America where we just had the honor system, where people were honorable who wanted to serve on juries and honor was not something that was in scarce supply.
00:17:58.620But now I see these other jurors, and we'll talk about it after the break as well.
00:18:03.720They seem like, and they don't seem like, they're activists.
00:18:07.400They're just obviously activists, and you can hear it in all of the statements that they're making.
00:24:21.500That's phenomenal, by the way. It's a free thinker fit made that within within minutes.0.98
00:24:26.720I mean, the A.I. is getting we don't even need, you know, Netflix dramas anymore because people are just making it in real time right now.
00:24:35.540But this obviously is the issue, right? This is the big issue.
00:24:39.280And and and I'll just say, you know, probably I think everyone's thinking it as well, that, of course, Charlie's murder case is going to come up at at some point right down the line.
00:24:49.740And we want the jurors in that case to be focused on the evidence and not on these these grand narratives of society.
00:24:59.960If someone comes in, for example, and that's why I think, by the way, that the defense has been bringing up the trans issue and saying in the last hearing, the closing arguments brought up and said, oh, Charlie Kirk was hateful against the LGBT community.
00:25:20.120And I'm thinking, I know where this is going. They're going to try to find some lawyer or excuse me, some juror who's on there that to say, maybe not the question of guilt, but in the perhaps in the sentencing phase, that if we can just get one to say, oh, well, you know, Charlie was a was a hate monger.
00:25:36.800Then perhaps, as they say, it only takes one juror.
00:25:40.120one juror acts as a poison pill deliberately being activist and you would think well why don't we
00:25:45.980filter these activist jurors out during jury selection during voir dire and the answer is
00:25:51.040first it's kind of hard to do you can look at people's social media in theory you could do a
00:25:56.240background check in every one of them but it's very resource intensive and it's not how jury
00:26:01.400selection is typically done jury selection is is generally very fast so people don't know most
00:26:06.660murder trials are one day from beginning to end, jury selection to verdict, all happens in a single
00:26:12.180day. So the juries are selected very, very, very quickly. There's not time to do a lot of
00:26:17.040introspection. At the federal level, juries, you have a few minutes with each particular juror. So
00:26:22.160it's hard to do a kind of thorough vetting of these jurors. Now, certainly, these are profile cases.
00:26:28.920For a number of the trials that I've covered as well in the D.C. area, there needs to be some
00:26:33.940standard set where social media is pursued more aggressively so that you can actually make sure
00:26:40.060that you don't have activists on either either side getting on the jury and it happens again
00:26:44.960and again Andrew Branca where can people go to follow you the Branca show on x on rumble on
00:26:51.400YouTube all right x rumble YouTube make sure you're going foul and following the Andrew Branca
00:26:57.900show and the Branca show it is phenomenal Jack Posobiec back with more after this
00:27:03.320I'm a communist on the faculty of one university is one communist human.
00:27:33.320One communist among the American advisors at Yalta was one communist, Tumani.
00:27:43.160All right, folks, Jack Posobiec, we are back live.
00:27:46.700Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
00:28:46.500What is so interesting, the optics of it, the optics really do say everything.
00:28:51.540Here is a citizen and a man who looked at the facts of the case.
00:28:57.440and the jurors who came out publicly, as far as we can tell, lied about him, lied maliciously.
00:29:04.860It looks like many of the rumors that were shared about him were provided by not even members of
00:29:11.180his own family, but it looks like there might be a little bit of a divorce revenge scenario that
00:29:17.280he might have going on with a soon-to-be ex-wife or ex-wife type scenario. It looks like that was
00:29:22.680some motivation there. So this poor fellow is being attacked, really, on all sides of the
00:29:28.540matter. But that one picture of him with the baby, with his daughter, that says it all.
00:29:35.300Something that Rich Barris and I talk about in Burn It Down, which comes out here in a couple
00:29:39.760weeks. We dedicated the book to the dads who will save us all. And what we talk about in that book
00:29:46.000is the rise of the para-father, para meaning above or alongside, something like that. The
00:29:53.260para-father is an American figure that we see archetypally rising up more and more in our0.95
00:30:00.840society to set things right. Civilization has always been built by fathers for their children.
00:30:10.840Civilization is protected by fathers for their children and their families and maintained, grown, spread.
00:30:18.700Civilization will perhaps one day go to and through the solar system because of fathers.
00:30:26.400And it's until we get to that point, it's up to fathers and the para-fathers of our civilization to be fathers by extension to more and more.
00:30:36.960And in this way, this lone holdout hero-juror, in a way, spiritually has functioned as a para-father, as a father figure to Patrick Clancy's three murdered children.0.85
00:30:53.980There's numerous scriptures, Bible verses, that speak to innocent blood crying out from the soil upon which it was shed.
00:31:04.460And this lone holdout hero juror, this father, he heard their voice when the other 11 jurors refused to listen.
00:31:22.080Just all fathers. Just get it. Now, Joshua, I did want to, of course, while I have you here and I know we're by by phone, one of the biggest stories that dropped over the I guess over the weekend coming into this week was new information on Thomas Matthew Crooks.
00:31:42.400new information on these unhuman killers and murderers and in this case attempted murderer
00:31:51.860what do you make and obviously you and i wrote the first book on the assassination attempt of
00:31:58.560president trump at butler pa bulletproof what do you make of the new information that we're
00:32:03.620learning about thomas matthew crooks and more importantly does it change what we learned about
00:32:09.760him what we wrote about in that book no in fact it is a confirmation of what we did because we
00:32:16.020were we were the first and as far as i know we were the only only figures with bulletproof to
00:32:21.400highlight that there were at that time several unidentified people around thomas matthew crooks
00:32:28.800and that of course clashed and i would use the word debunked the so-called lone wolf doing
00:32:34.920everything alone description. We found that there were individuals who were visiting,
00:32:41.360the same individual, visiting the family home several times a week leading up to the shooting.
00:32:48.080We flagged several individuals who were accompanying Thomas Matthew Crooks, for example,
00:32:53.700to the range, and it seemed that he had some support, some assistance. And this new information
00:33:01.760that has come out also identified individuals
00:33:31.760And the right. So, I mean, again, you see you see fathers throughout all of this.
00:33:36.900And this is why we say that the antidote to on humans is fathers.
00:33:42.260And it's actually very sad because in many of these cases, you know, with Thomas Crooks, they talk about.
00:33:54.220You know, they talk about his father not having a good relationship with him.
00:33:59.200they say that you know he was born without a sound he was emotionless that you know not a strong
00:34:08.000you know not a strong relationship at all um you know talks there was some information that
00:34:15.880he again as we know that he built homemade um homemade weapons we know that he was making
00:34:24.720homemade bombs that were found that day. And there's real questions about that. I would like
00:34:30.340to know as well. We did talk about this in the book. Who was he talking to? Who was he talking
00:34:35.340to about these homemade bombs? Who was he going online and connecting with to get this information?
00:34:41.820Did he, you know, was this a 3D printed homemade Glock? I'd really like to know if there's more
00:34:48.100there. But to your point, we see the father as well of Corey Compatori defending his wife and
00:34:55.260daughters who, and I remember, I know you remember we sat pretty much right next to at the second
00:35:00.620Butler rally. We were sitting right next to the Compatori family. That's right. Yes. There's,
00:35:07.500there's a demonstrated significance of the presence of fathers in families such that when,
00:35:14.600When dad checks out, like it looks like was the situation with Thomas Matthew Crooks, with Mr. Crooks and the Crooks family, when dad kind of checks out, you see often sort of a catastrophic cacophony and crises of meaning, purpose in the lives of the children of that family, often resulting in tragedy.
00:35:39.100You know, you often see this with the greater the distance between a father and his children, the worse life is for those children.
00:35:46.500You know, and of course, everyone is particularly and conservatives are familiar with statistics related to the outcomes of children, particularly sons that are growing up in a single mother household.
00:35:57.820I don't believe that's an indictment of mothers, but rather it is a demonstration of the necessity of the father in children's lives, such that we also see from the statistics that single dads, interestingly enough, single dads who raise their children, their kids' outcomes are similar to kids who grow up in a nuclear family with married, biological, heterosexual parents.
00:36:24.440It's just incredible to witness this.0.60
00:36:27.500And we have figures in our culture to this day who have been the para-father.0.68
00:36:33.360And of course, everyone remembers America's internet dad, Scott Adams.0.97
00:36:38.260I'm working on his biography right now, collaborating with Joel Pollack, going through these again,
00:36:43.080seeing the experiences that Scott lived through, that he provided to us.
00:36:49.020This, again, is an example of a masculine, guiding, influential presence who tells the
00:36:56.340truth, who doesn't tiptoe around feelings, and who is afraid of hurting women's feelings.
00:37:01.860And I think that's the great significance of the lone holdout juror.
00:37:05.800Go back to that story where this hero was not afraid to anger 11 women.
00:37:13.520He was not afraid to tell 11 women no.
00:37:19.020all right that's that's incredible joshua thank you so much for for that and for digging into
00:37:32.060all this for us where can people go to get uh get access to your writings and your information
00:37:37.260yes all my books are available of course on amazon and at joshua lysick i'm sharing more
00:37:42.880about burn it down with rich barris and of course the upcoming scott adams biography
00:37:46.740coming this thanksgiving all right god bless right back jack posovic with more human events daily
00:38:16.740I'll call this the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour.
00:38:21.480I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential
00:38:25.720nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobiec.
00:39:07.280i'm personally doing good jack but it's never fun to hear these stories and see these stories
00:39:14.180come in it's always very sad for us on on this so so walk us through this one and because
00:39:19.240unfortunately i've seen um you know i'm looking at some of the case here we've got a 75 year old
00:39:25.480father parkinson's a brain injury that was involved i mean that is unfortunately that's
00:39:31.780exactly the type of individual that gets targeted by these scammers isn't it
00:39:37.280Yeah, absolutely. So I'm not sure if you guys have the clip, but if anyone watching wants to go and see it, you can see there's this clip of his daughter who was coming to check on him because their communication had kind of dwindled down after they had hired an in-home care nurse to come take care of him during this vulnerable time.
00:39:54.200The daughter had lived out of state. It's a really, really sad clip. She's just screaming and super confused. This woman had moved this this in care nurse had moved all of their belongings into the home, had moved the father out and no one knew about it.
00:40:12.500And the crazy part is once this woman actually had the police called on her by the caregiver that was living in the home because the caregiver had transferred the house into her name, showing that she had paid five dollars for it with deed fraud.
00:40:29.060The police actually escorted the daughter off the property because she wasn't the legal owner and the dad wasn't the legal owner anymore.
00:40:36.180This caregiver who'd stolen the home was the legal owner on paper and had the ability to have this woman removed from the property.
00:40:42.500and and we do actually we do have that clip by the way it's echo three let's play clip echo three0.95
00:40:47.780where's all of my father's things you broke in my freaking house this is my house
00:40:52.820this is my house so so walk us through the context there because it almost seems like a like a
00:41:04.040squatter kind of situation but that there's more to it yeah it's a really interesting thing because
00:41:09.140I've been seeing these reports come out about this story. So this actually happened back in
00:41:13.400the end, I think, of 2024. So this has been ongoing, but the reports are finally just now
00:41:18.200coming out. A lot of the reports are showing the squatter situation, making it appear as if it's a
00:41:24.300squatter situation, right? Like they moved into the house, they can't get them kicked out, etc.
00:41:28.380But it's so much worse than a squatter situation because squatters generally will go into unoccupied
00:41:34.460homes. They'll take over our property. And, you know, there's all this craziness about squatters
00:41:39.160rights and how long they have to be there. And that's just a whole different mess of a story.
00:41:44.440But in this case, it's different because the caregiver had actually filed the paperwork
00:41:49.060showing that the home had, quote, been sold for $5 using the same document that we talk about all
00:41:56.080the time, which is the quick claim deed, which is literally meant for situations like this when
00:41:59.740they're legitimate. Unfortunately, she is the legal owner on record, which doesn't happen with
00:42:05.520a squatter situation, right? They have squatters rights. In this case, she is the legal owner. And
00:42:10.540that is the absolute scariest part about this crime is that it's the quintessential example of
00:42:16.700deed fraud being perpetrated from the victim's inner circle, right? Everyone thinks, oh, it's
00:42:22.040going to be someone from the outside. It's going to be the syndicate. And don't get me wrong,
00:42:25.500that absolutely happens. It's a lot of stories that come out, but people don't often think,
00:42:30.120oh, this is something that can happen within our home. A lot of the reports that we get
00:42:34.120from our subscribers that we have to then open cases and start going through the restoration
00:42:38.160process, a lot of them tend to be rogue family members, caregivers, even rogue mortgage brokers.
00:42:46.460And I think people often forget that this can definitely happen just in your own backyard,
00:42:51.160in your own house. That's, that's terrifying. No, it is absolutely terrifying. And, and you're
00:42:58.160looking through this. So, you know, and, and it sucks, right? I'm just saying it sucks that you,0.97
00:43:03.700you know, you trust these people, you hire these firms, and you hope that someone is able to be0.89
00:43:09.720there to help your, your loved one. And, you know, in these cases, obviously, it's very emotional.
00:43:15.940In many cases, you know, when you have someone who's getting older, you don't want to,
00:43:20.600you know, you don't want to maybe put them in hospice or something like that,
00:43:25.000or people who don't want to go into one of these, you know, retirement centers, senior care center.
00:43:29.780But at the same time, you don't know because you're wondering if you can trust those people.
00:43:34.220And, you know, if you trust the people that you bring into your home as well,
00:43:38.980and then to think that they would do something like this.
00:43:42.120So in this case, and I'm looking here in the notes, do we know the person was caught though, right?
00:43:48.440so this the case is still ongoing and this is this is kind of the hard part about situations
00:43:54.100like this right so for any of the audience that isn't familiar with this story um the the father
00:43:59.640unfortunately passed away so after the home had been transferred a bunch of and it was more than
00:44:04.680this like this woman was getting bank transfer material she ended up getting power of attorney
00:44:08.820signed over so there's a whole legal process going on um with that in itself but what's what
00:44:14.360basically happened is once the father passed away, there's really no legitimate way for them to like
00:44:20.740the homeowner themselves can't come up and be like, oh, no, I never signed this. This wasn't
00:44:25.680me. This was fraudulent because they're passed away now. And this happens even when the homeowner
00:44:29.880is still living with us. It's it's the burden is on the victim of this crime to prove that it was
00:44:35.900fraud in the first place, because then it comes down to just he said she said you sold your home
00:44:41.440to me for super cheap or no, I never did this in the first place. Well, is this your signature? No,
00:44:46.580it's not. And the homeowner has to go through this entire legal process. So we're in 2026.
00:44:51.860This happened in 2024. Currently, there is no legal resolution. As far as we are aware,
00:44:57.620this nurse is still living and occupying this home that was meant to be inherited by the daughter of
00:45:03.700this man that passed away. So as far as we know, nothing has really come of this.
00:45:08.260And that's crazy, because to me, that just seems like an obvious case of elder abuse.
00:45:13.360Just looking at it, selling a home for $5 to the caregiver, signing the power of attorney, all these things, just seems like textbook elder abuse.
00:45:24.000But to your point, if folks don't have home title locks set up for themselves, or by the way, a loved one who may be in a situation like that, this is exactly what could happen.
00:45:35.060Absolutely. And we do have many subscribers that will sign up their parents' home that are keeping an eye. One of our very large cases that was a very intricate case for us was, in fact, a father or a son who had signed up his father's vacant property and they found it had been stolen.
00:45:53.300And it ended up being a long process because of other things that the criminal had done.