Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - May 20, 2026


Massie Loses - Trump’s Win Streak Continues & the Explosion of Trans Violence Across America


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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, it's Jack. I wanted to let you know that we're starting a new push for subscriptions here on Human Events Daily.
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00:00:34.960 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:00:44.080 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:50.760 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:00:53.740 Christ is king.
00:00:55.320 Shocking details out of the Chicago area. A judge says they have lost track of hundreds of people who were placed on ankle monitors, all while facing pending criminal cases. The total number now thought to be at nearly 250 people.
00:01:12.260 More than a dozen people are facing charges tonight in connection with the Human Trafficking and Drug Distribution Ring operating in Central and South Jersey.
00:01:22.120 This ring was operating in these areas you see highlighted here, Burlington, Camden, Ocean, and Middlesex counties.
00:01:28.740 The U.S. Supreme Court vacated the Mississippi legislative redistricting case.
00:01:32.340 This led to a few districts being redrawn last year.
00:01:35.620 The case, sent back by the high court on Monday, has to deal with the legislative redistricting maps lawmakers passed in 2022.
00:01:43.660 The Mississippi Voting Rights Act Rapid Response Coalition doesn't approve of the ruling.
00:01:48.760 They say, quote, today's order is a deeply troubling abuse of judicial power, end quote.
00:01:54.680 State Senator Tyler McCann says the ruling by the Supreme Court that race can't be used as a deciding factor when drawing maps is the rule of laws.
00:02:04.280 Congressman Thomas Massey lost his GOP primary in Kentucky to former Navy SEAL Ed Galrine,
00:02:11.220 a candidate very aggressively backed by the president.
00:02:13.820 More than $32 million was spent on this primary by groups aligned with the president,
00:02:19.080 but also organizations that support Israel have been trying to defeat the congressman for years
00:02:24.000 because of his opposition to aid to Israel.
00:02:26.420 But ultimately, this contest is just the latest reminder.
00:02:28.920 If you're a Republican who crosses President Trump, you will pay the political consequences.
00:02:34.440 I would have come out sooner, but I had to call my opponent and concede,
00:02:39.400 and it took a while to find Ed Galrine in Tel Aviv.
00:02:42.580 Thomas Massey was ousted in Kentucky, losing to President Donald Trump-backed challenger Ed Galrine.
00:02:48.080 It was a test on Trump's hold of the Republican Party, similar to Louisiana's primary,
00:02:52.720 where Trump's candidate also came out on top.
00:02:55.040 Also in Kentucky, Representative Andy Barr won his primary bid to succeed retiring Senator Mitch McConnell.
00:03:01.640 Barr secured Trump's endorsement to defeat Nate Morris, a pro-Trump businessman who won the last political endorsement of late conservative activist Charlie Kirk before he was killed in September.
00:03:11.700 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live on Real America's Voice.
00:03:16.900 Today is May 20th, 2026.
00:03:20.580 Anno Domini.
00:03:22.200 So everybody's talking about Kentucky 4.
00:03:25.040 thomas massey race thomas massey it's primaried thomas massey loses loses by i think it's like
00:03:32.200 what 10 11 points big big swing and a lot of people are trying to talk about all of
00:03:40.220 the different things that went into this primary people are talking about the influence of apac
00:03:47.300 and the influence of foreign interests in our elections people are talking about whether or
00:03:53.780 not any Arab nations played a role in this. People are talking about Jewish donors. People
00:03:59.840 are talking about Muslim donors. People are talking about all sorts of things when it comes
00:04:06.000 to this race. But here's something that I want to caution everybody on, because I see a lot of 1.00
00:04:11.420 people extrapolating so much from this, but not actually understanding what's going on under the
00:04:18.540 hood. Congressional elections are complicated business. They always are. They always will be
00:04:25.180 in every congressional district. There are parochial as well as national issues. Okay.
00:04:32.900 Now there's no question, all right. There's no question at all that president Trump's
00:04:39.100 endorsement of Ed Gowrain and AV seal was a huge influence. President Trump. And I tweeted this
00:04:46.940 President Trump is solidly the leader of the Republican Party, and the last few weeks have absolutely determined that as if you didn't already know.
00:04:57.880 Okay, it's just a case you didn't know that the big dog in the Republican Party is Donald J. Trump, just in case you weren't sure.
00:05:06.440 But here's something that I do see a lot of people saying and one analysis or one hot take going on that I think we need to be careful with.
00:05:18.820 Because people are saying, oh, X isn't real life and Twitter isn't real life.
00:05:24.540 Social media isn't real life.
00:05:26.180 Podcasters aren't real life.
00:05:27.920 Influencers aren't real life.
00:05:29.500 Is that true or is that not true?
00:05:31.140 Well, I do think that the Internet can have an effect on real life when used properly.
00:05:36.440 or in the right situation, the right circumstances, when you have something that actually breaks out
00:05:42.120 and goes mainstream. Some things do, some things don't, and that depends on the quality of the
00:05:45.880 message, it depends on the timing, it depends on a lot of things. But also, I want to be very clear
00:05:50.960 that if you go and look at the demographics on that primary, Thomas Massey won every demographic
00:05:58.240 under 65. We want every single one outright. So does this also mean potentially a future shift
00:06:07.440 for the party is in the works in terms of some of these big questions, questions about Israel,
00:06:14.080 questions about foreign involvement, questions about where we are as a country?
00:06:19.540 Pay attention to this. Pay attention to Signal. But also remember, this is a closed primary,
00:06:27.080 about 100,000 people. This does not determine the entire mood of the nation.
00:06:34.340 There's a closed Republican primary. So what does that mean? Independents can't vote.
00:06:38.720 So if an independent can't vote, then that means that someone who left the party,
00:06:43.020 which we have seen a lot of in recent years, many people who are MAGA have left the party
00:06:47.340 in recent years. They can't vote in a primary. Only registered Republicans can. This is key
00:06:54.660 to understanding that you want to learn from these elections, especially primaries, but take it all
00:07:00.920 with a grain of salt and really look under the hood to examine what's going on when you're
00:07:06.960 reading those tea leaves. Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily, Remarker's Voice. We'll be right back.
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00:07:45.980 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec back live here. Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
00:07:54.900 We're very excited to be sitting down with Senator Ron Johnson yet again here on the program from the great state of Wisconsin.
00:08:02.760 Senator, how are you? I'm doing great, Jack. How about yourself?
00:08:07.460 Doing well, though, in the break, we're just talking about how the pollen, the pollen's getting to me, but I'm fighting back.
00:08:12.660 I'm I'm using my all my my good Maha methods.
00:08:16.320 I'm fortifying. I'm I'm taking the vitamin C.
00:08:19.560 I'm taking my zinc. I'm taking my B12 and whatever else, whatever else.
00:08:23.480 My wife, who's an incredible Maha mom, is is setting up for me in the morning. 1.00
00:08:28.400 Oh, just toughen up. That's what I was told my kids.
00:08:30.500 Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Now we're going to fight back. It'll be good.
00:08:33.880 Senator, I did want to get in, though, because I saw, you know,
00:08:36.960 some of the stuff that you've been putting out recently regarding the filibuster,
00:08:39.740 regarding the Save America Act and these have all been things that we're hearing new reports from
00:08:45.300 the White House. I'm hearing a lot of chatter that the president is starting to get. I'm just
00:08:50.120 going to say it. He's starting to get pretty fed up with some of these signature issues and the
00:08:55.680 failure to get them across the finish line. You've been talking about it as well. I wanted to get
00:09:01.400 your take to chime in on what exactly is the holdup. What's going on? What are the dynamics at
00:09:07.080 play? Well, the main holdup is Republicans recognize that at some point in time, we'll be
00:09:12.540 in the minority again, might be in 2027. Let's hope not. But at some point in time, Democrats
00:09:18.800 will run the table. And we're going to want the filibuster to make sure that we can stop
00:09:23.520 them from destroying this country with their awful legislation. The split in our conferences
00:09:28.620 between those of us who are 150% sure that when Democrats do run the table, they will end
00:09:37.000 the filibuster. I have no doubt about that whatsoever, but I've got a lot of colleagues
00:09:41.740 in our conference who, first of all, are reluctant to vote to change the rule,
00:09:47.480 basically giving the Democrats that tool, versus those of us, and again, they also are talking to
00:09:55.220 Democrat colleagues who now are coming up and saying, well, you know, we're kind of reluctant
00:09:58.720 that we voted to end it last time. No, they're not. They're literally just playing those senators.
00:10:03.900 So, again, you've got the legitimate concern about not having the filibuster when we need to block their legislation.
00:10:10.240 I'm just facing reality that they're going to do it anyway.
00:10:12.460 I mean, a party that opened up our borders to accomplish their goal of turning America into one party nation.
00:10:18.740 You know, flood sanctuary cities, plus up the census, get more members of Congress.
00:10:23.840 They will end the filibuster to turn D.C., Puerto Rico to states, pack the Supreme Court, nationalize the elections.
00:10:30.200 They're going to do that.
00:10:30.980 Kamala Harris just basically said that's exactly what their goal is.
00:10:34.580 So, you know, unfortunately, it's pretty late.
00:10:37.160 I agree with the president.
00:10:38.260 We started calling for this late last year.
00:10:40.480 We should have done it then.
00:10:42.340 At a minimum, if we do it now, we can pass the Save America Act and help secure the 2028 election.
00:10:48.080 Probably pretty late in the game for 2026 to have much of an impact.
00:10:51.700 But again, you just have to recognize that reality.
00:10:54.220 The analogy I used in another program is, let's say you're sitting around a table and there's a murderer on the other side of that table.
00:11:00.680 And there's a gun right there. Now, you certainly don't want to push that gun to that murder, but you better take it yourself to defend yourself, right? And that's kind of, we're at the end stage here. This is a moment of truth. This is not the Democrat Party of our parents and grandparents. JFK would probably be the most conservative member of the Republican Senate Conference today.
00:11:21.320 This is a bunch of radical leftists. They want to impose radical leftism, socialism on this country, and we know it destroys nations, civilizations.
00:11:32.340 I mean, it's destructive, but that's what Democrats want to do, and they are absolutely determined to do it.
00:11:37.920 They treat politics as a blood sport. They do not recognize any rules.
00:11:42.820 They'll change whatever rule they need to change for them to acquire and maintain power.
00:11:47.800 Well, Senator, I mean, to your point, one need look no further from Washington, D.C.,
00:11:55.520 then down to Richmond, Virginia, that the minute the Democrats took power there in the governor's
00:12:02.440 mansion, as well as the statehouse, they immediately cast off any of these notions of
00:12:10.740 moderation or people are joking. Oh, thank goodness, Spanberger's a moderate. Could you
00:12:16.460 imagine if she were governing as a radical. No, they were throwing out all sorts of legislation. 1.00
00:12:21.840 They were practically banning guns. And oh, by the way, they tried to redistrict the entire state
00:12:28.480 with, by the way, the full force of President Barack Obama, the the titular leader of the
00:12:33.760 Democrat Party going all in on this. They were trying to redistrict all of Virginia so that
00:12:39.220 northern Virginia would control every congressional district of the majority of congressional districts
00:12:44.160 in the state. That's how they play ball. Well, Jack, here's a newsflash. Democrats lie. 0.57
00:12:51.300 They are enormous hypocrites, but they have the mainstream media in their back pocket. 1.00
00:12:56.220 They're never held accountable. So they can just lie and be hypocrites with impunity. Again, 1.00
00:13:01.000 I'm not saying some Republicans aren't hypocrites or some don't, but nothing to the extent of what 0.83
00:13:06.140 Democrats get away with. They do it with impunity. So they do it all the time. So it doesn't surprise 0.91
00:13:11.780 me when somebody runs as a moderate, they all run as moderates, but then they govern
00:13:15.880 as the radical leftists they are. Or they certainly vote with the radical leftists
00:13:20.100 that propose the legislation they support.
00:13:24.160 And so if that's the case, and we've heard
00:13:27.340 Democrats like AOC and others go through this laundry list, as you say,
00:13:32.320 of trying to pack the court, being willing to get rid of the filibuster,
00:13:36.420 being willing to make Puerto Rico a state, which we know would be
00:13:39.860 Democrat state, that's two senators, that's a governor, that's a congressman, and, you know,
00:13:45.480 potentially, I guess, three electoral votes that would go to the Democrats. Then if, as Republicans,
00:13:50.940 what's the best way to respond while you have the chance? And the filibuster, which is what I've
00:13:57.900 been pushing. Again, the reluctance on the part of many of my colleagues, again, they're engaged
00:14:01.420 in wishful thinking. They don't want to be accused of destroying the Senate, turning into the House.
00:14:06.480 Again, they've got this, you know, fantasized version of the greatest deliverer of body.
00:14:11.100 I mean, this place is so broken.
00:14:14.200 You know, they always say, well, it's a slippery slope.
00:14:16.900 We're at the bottom of that hill, that slippery slope.
00:14:19.180 There's no 60-volt threshold or any nominations anymore.
00:14:21.940 That took us three bites of the apple to eliminate that. 0.97
00:14:25.220 Reconciliation, we're pushing it way beyond the bounds of, I think, anybody who designed the stupidity of reconciliation. 0.98
00:14:31.500 Well, you can do this, you can't do that. 1.00
00:14:32.900 You got to burn, you know, it's just, it is the most Byzantine set of stupid rules. 1.00
00:14:38.620 End it. 1.00
00:14:39.360 Just end it.
00:14:40.580 You know, it's not going to be end the world.
00:14:42.700 There's not one state that requires a super majority vote to pass all legislation.
00:14:47.660 There are some super majority votes required to pass increased taxes, which is a good idea.
00:14:52.860 But otherwise, states function that way.
00:14:54.980 The difference between the states and D.C., though, is states by and large have to balance their budget.
00:14:59.880 That's the real problem with the federal government is we don't.
00:15:02.420 And so we've got a bunch of people here whistling by the graveyard, doing bipartisan deals on appropriation bills, spending money we can't afford.
00:15:11.220 And then when they do those bipartisan, and they're all proud of it, by the way.
00:15:14.760 I mean, you have to be inside the conference.
00:15:16.320 Oh, this is 100% bipartisan.
00:15:18.340 Everybody voted for this.
00:15:19.580 Ick.
00:15:20.420 Just a great big ick.
00:15:21.860 But they forge those relationships, and then they actually believe the Democrats who lie to their face.
00:15:27.620 35 Democrats signed a letter with Susan Collins a couple of years before they voted to end the
00:15:32.560 filibuster, pledging not to end the filibuster. 35 of them, then basically all did it. And now
00:15:38.600 the ones, again, they're just playing my colleagues for fools. If there's, oh, we regret that. Well, 0.97
00:15:44.280 we're not going to vote to end the filibuster. Yes, you will. You will absolutely vote to end
00:15:47.960 the filibuster because you want to acquire and maintain that power and turn America into one
00:15:52.780 Party nation. That's their goal. It's been the goal from the very start. And we've heard the
00:16:00.340 president say in public and in private many, many times that it's time to just start fighting with
00:16:05.820 fire with fire. And again, what I suggested to President Trump when he first proposed that,
00:16:11.260 and I agreed with him immediately to end the filibuster, I said, Mr. President,
00:16:14.840 you have to lay out the important piece of legislation that have 70, 80 percent of support
00:16:20.180 of the American public that we know we can pass with slender majorities. He ended up with about
00:16:25.080 a laundry list of about 30 things. And again, that was months and months and months ago.
00:16:30.460 We're pretty late in the game here. It's not too late to pass the Save America Act,
00:16:34.560 again, to help secure the 2028 election. I don't know how much impact it'll have on 2026. Again,
00:16:40.100 it's getting late in the game. But if you want some hope here, we didn't have, at the end of
00:16:45.640 last year. We did not have the votes and the 60-vote threshold of nominations. It was only
00:16:50.940 because Democrats were so obnoxiously obstructionist. President Trump was going to
00:16:56.340 probably get less than 500 of his nominees confirmed when generally presidents get about
00:17:02.840 1,100 confirmations in their first Congress. He wasn't even going to get 500. So Democrats were
00:17:08.900 so obnoxious, all of a sudden, all 53 Republicans who, again, the same group, were very reluctant
00:17:14.760 to do it. They all voted to end the 60 vote threshold nomination. So I'm not saying it's
00:17:19.520 impossible, but we're going to need a far more concerted and far more strategic and a much
00:17:25.640 better sales job on the part of the president to end the filibuster.
00:17:31.860 No, I think that makes sense because you're right. When you talk to, I think, the average
00:17:36.860 American out there, you say, oh, what's the filibuster's problem? And they view that almost
00:17:41.400 as you know as the senators kind of uh or just politicians in general sort of shirking their
00:17:46.760 duties so what do you mean the filibuster i elected you to go do stuff go do it and by the way that's
00:17:51.400 so the filibuster if you just understand it's it wasn't part of our constitution it was passed in
00:17:57.300 i think 1917 it was only used five times you know a supermajority threshold was only used five times
00:18:03.760 in the first 50 years what's happened is it's evolved and just basically ending debate you
00:18:09.080 don't even engage in it. It protects senators from taking tough votes. And so that's why I said at a
00:18:14.260 minimum, what I would call him Leader Thunton, again, it's not his fault that he doesn't have
00:18:18.080 the support to end it, but at a minimum, he should call a vote on a rule change. That'd be at a 67
00:18:24.200 vote supermajority. That's how you change the rules in normal procedures and at least get the
00:18:30.500 Democrats on record. Now, will they honor that when they get a chance? I don't think so.
00:18:35.380 But at a minimum, do that, you know, put your vote.
00:18:39.180 And we always get told here, you know, it's part of our job is to take tough votes.
00:18:42.720 And then both sides shield their members from tough votes all the time.
00:18:47.360 And that's really what the filibuster has been used for is now we're just all shielded from taking tough votes, from actually being that deliberative body.
00:18:55.200 Where you put a piece of legislation on the floor and then actually vote out amendments.
00:18:59.820 Try and improve the piece of legislation.
00:19:02.260 It's all preordained.
00:19:03.720 It's all cooked.
00:19:05.360 It's a massive charade.
00:19:07.140 The Senate, Congress is a massive charade.
00:19:10.280 And the filibuster allows that charade to continue.
00:19:13.280 Senator, one second, because I want to dig into that a little bit more over the break.
00:19:18.180 Jack Posobiec, Senator Ron Johnson, Human Events Daily.
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00:19:32.960 These are influences. And they're friends of mine. Jack Prasovic. Where's Jack?
00:19:40.820 He's done a great job.
00:19:45.520 All right, folks, Jack Prasovic. We're back here. Human Events Daily, Real America's
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00:21:03.100 all of D.C., all of the political world is abuzz regarding this race down in Kentucky.
00:21:10.960 Thomas Massey, another incumbent. We've seen a number of incumbents, you know, either lose
00:21:16.080 their primaries like your colleague, Senator Cassidy, this issue with John Cornyn now in Texas
00:21:22.060 going to the runoff, but President Trump endorsing against him. Now we have President Trump endorsing
00:21:27.980 against an incumbent who has lost his race down in Kentucky. I've argued that it's a lot more
00:21:34.400 complicated than I think a lot of people are giving it credit for. But at the same time,
00:21:39.560 it's also pretty simple in terms of the president's popularity and the president's
00:21:44.640 influence within the Republican Party. I wanted to get your take on that as well.
00:21:47.580 Well, again, each one of these races is different. I mean, each one does indicate the kind of control that President Trump has over his base and can turn them out. But I agree with you. I listened to your opening there on the Kentucky race with Thomas Massey.
00:22:02.040 What I would caution the White House and his political advisors to recognize is 45 percent of hard Republicans, people who really support us, who voted for President Trump, 45 percent of them didn't listen to President Trump's endorsement.
00:22:20.040 And let's face it, I think I'm Tea Party more than a Republican, truthfully.
00:22:24.780 There's a pretty strong libertarian streak in most conservatives and many Republicans.
00:22:30.160 So I think we ignore that.
00:22:32.200 Again, Tom Massey, there are a lot of things I respect about him.
00:22:36.920 He's a very intelligent guy.
00:22:38.640 I think you start dismissing him or dissing him at your own peril because he had 45% of
00:22:46.120 the support of people who really supported and loved what President Trump is doing as well.
00:22:51.580 So again, it is.
00:22:53.240 It's way more complex.
00:22:54.800 You have to look at these things not in such a simplistic manner.
00:22:59.500 No, I think that's exactly right, because when when you look at people want to extrapolate so many things from this.
00:23:06.800 But again, it's it's a Republican closed primary. I'm from Pennsylvania, also closed primary state.
00:23:12.740 And so people, I think, can take a message from a primary race, especially in a closed primary, but then miss the fact that there are so many independents out there that really will shift things in terms of a general.
00:23:26.260 I know Kentucky is a state like this. I know Wisconsin is a state like that. Most of the
00:23:29.860 Rust Belt states, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, are all like that. And so I would
00:23:35.000 just caution anyone, the White House or media, whoever it is, to really look under the hood
00:23:40.160 and understand the dynamics here. Well, remember, when you defeat somebody like Thomas Massey,
00:23:45.120 who had 45 percent support, again, you don't want to diss those people. You want them to come out
00:23:52.020 back out and unify and get behind the eventual candidates. So again, you need to be gracious
00:23:57.080 in victory. You need to recognize the people that voted against whoever you were supporting
00:24:02.420 or whatever your position was, you know, particularly in primary, you've got to get
00:24:06.240 those people back on your side. So yeah, I mean, there's no doubt about it. President Trump is
00:24:10.900 certainly showing, you know, his influence over our party. But when you take a look at how Tucker
00:24:16.980 has turned on and other people, I mean, there are people with legitimate concerns about what's
00:24:21.340 happening to Iran. I fully support what President Trump's doing. I view Iran as an existential
00:24:26.000 threat. There's a big chunk of our party who is not particularly happy with that. You know,
00:24:30.320 there's an even bigger chunk that is really concerned about gasoline prices. I do hour-long
00:24:35.660 telephone town halls every week. Three-quarters of those things is talking about gas prices.
00:24:41.600 Okay, those are realities that you cannot dismiss. But by the way, same thing after the 2020 election
00:24:48.840 In our Republican conference, after President Trump lost, I cautioned my colleagues, I said, be very careful.
00:24:56.960 Do not diss the people or the person that President Trump supporters, they love this guy.
00:25:05.540 Don't be dissing the guy that they love.
00:25:08.120 That's not a very smart thing politically.
00:25:10.900 And I think that's what got an awful lot of people in trouble.
00:25:14.080 and i i think that's exactly i think that's exactly correct and it's it's a story of
00:25:21.860 competing influences president trump has the biggest influence in the republican party there's
00:25:26.860 no question about that there's no there's there's no debate about that and certainly after the past
00:25:32.160 couple of weeks i i would caution anyone who thinks that that is a uh uh that thinks that
00:25:38.320 that's a viable path i mean certainly you would disagree on on issue to issue there's no question
00:25:42.820 about that. But when it comes to this outwardly trying to run, you know, run against him, I don't
00:25:47.240 think it works. But when people are looking forward to the general elections of this year,
00:25:52.340 when people are looking forward to the general election, move to the country, when it comes
00:25:55.360 to 2028, I do think we have to put more of, you know, more of the complicated nuance into the
00:26:02.400 equation. We need to unify as a party, as a movement against the people who are trying to
00:26:08.800 this country. We're not the enemies. I mean, I don't care who just got to feed in what election.
00:26:15.500 Those individuals are not the enemies, the Democrats. The radical left are destroying
00:26:20.680 this country. So again, we are excellent at engaging circular firing squads and eating our
00:26:27.780 own. We need to focus on the real perpetrators of the damage being done to this country. I mean,
00:26:33.700 we're just trying to clean up their messes. And then we argue over, you know, we haven't
00:26:37.120 clean it up fast enough i mean all these messes that president trump is trying to clean up those
00:26:42.320 are all created by democrats and then they when we infight when we engage in circular firing squads
00:26:48.020 we let them off the hook they sit there and start blaming high prices on us you know no it's it's
00:26:54.500 their 40-year high inflation it's their weakness that forced president trump to act while we still
00:26:59.080 could act so again anybody who's part of the conservative movement republican whatever we're
00:27:04.740 bunch of entrepreneurs we have different ideas we have different priorities our top priority
00:27:10.660 that's unified all of us is they they want to turn this into one-party nation they will destroy this
00:27:14.980 nation they are destroying this nation they are destroying this nation this is a moment of truth
00:27:20.180 we need to stop them senator ron johnson thank you very much we're honored always to have you
00:27:25.300 here on the program right back with Tyler Boyer and Jack where is Jack where is Jack where is he
00:27:37.060 Jack I want to see you great job Jack thank you what a job you do you know we have an incredible
00:27:45.620 thing we're always talking about the fake news and the bad but we have guys and these are the
00:27:50.560 I don't regret it. I hate them. 0.78
00:27:54.560 That was the last straw. I forgive them for so many things, but it screwed me up so much, beating me and you name it. 0.93
00:28:04.560 So... 0.71
00:28:06.560 So, what did you use to kill your parents then? 1.00
00:28:12.560 My gun.
00:28:13.560 Is it the same gun that you had when you surrendered to the police?
00:28:18.560 Yeah.
00:28:20.560 So that was Colin Mia Bailey, a trans shooter who is arrested and has been accused of shooting
00:28:31.780 his parents, shooting, killing his parents, also shooting at his brother.
00:28:37.920 And this happened back in June of 2024.
00:28:41.260 But one thing that struck me as very interesting was not just the person, not just the crime,
00:28:47.260 but also the location because i found that this was washington utah washington city utah and what
00:28:55.440 struck me as so interesting was that washington city utah the same town of about 30 000 people
00:29:01.720 in southwest utah is also the hometown of tyler robinson tyler robinson the shooter or the alleged
00:29:11.460 shooter of charlie kirk which was also a trans connected act i want to bring on tyler boyer
00:29:19.200 here uh you know him he's the coo of turning point action my friend charlie's friend but also
00:29:25.060 someone who is very familiar with this community tyler how are you good to see you jack so yeah
00:29:32.340 man i i you and i have just you know been going through it trying to put all the pieces together
00:29:38.200 And then I see this thing pop up out of the same town as Tyler Robinson.
00:29:43.700 And I think, what is going on in the water up there?
00:29:47.260 What is what is the situation?
00:29:49.560 I threw up a tweet about it.
00:29:51.300 You you had some thoughts and I just I knew I had to pick your brain.
00:29:54.580 So I've said, hey, come on the show.
00:29:57.000 Yeah, I mean, at this point, Jack, I think the numbers are running.
00:30:00.280 like one out of every 4 500 people in the city of washington are likely to be murderers at this
00:30:08.600 point and so there's definitely something weird going on i mean this is not just not just general
00:30:16.920 crime like actual targeted killings like this murder specifically uh trans induced murder
00:30:26.180 so i mean look i mean this is open up the conversation in utah where you know a lot
00:30:34.120 of people are starting to have that conversation of how soft has the lds community got specifically
00:30:40.680 on the trans issue where it's actually enabled violence uh in the community i mean watch it
00:30:48.660 let's be like super clear washington is not a huge community it's it's a relatively small community
00:30:55.060 uh yeah i think it's something less than 20 000 people somewhere in that ballpark it's at best
00:31:02.300 suburban um you know a very suburban quiet community very religious again in in the utah
00:31:09.580 hemisphere and you're seeing this type of radical violence uh come up and and there's causes for
00:31:19.440 this and so the conversation really has to be is like what's causing this who's not stopping this
00:31:25.460 what what is not being done in the community and is this happening in other places that you know
00:31:32.060 where there's unsuspecting good people with you know violent criminals being harbored you know
00:31:39.580 next door to you i remember there was something that you told me once when we were chatting about
00:31:47.660 this, uh, the, you know, the other incident and you, you know, I was talking about how does someone
00:31:54.260 from seemingly a conservative LDS family, gun owners, um, uh, seem very, yeah, very, very tight
00:32:04.060 knit communities seem like, uh, you know, good parents. Uh, and, and, and again, in this situation,
00:32:08.560 you, you see that as well. And you told me something that when some people leave LDS,
00:32:12.580 they kind of run in the other direction um do you do you think that that could be one of the
00:32:18.960 dynamics that we're starting to see yeah i mean we've seen this not just in the lds faith but in
00:32:24.740 many others is that when you're from a very orthodox community whether it's an orthodox
00:32:29.740 evangelical community orthodox catholics catholic community you know an lds community there's
00:32:37.060 societal pressure that's there. And so I think the mistake that can happen is when you coddle
00:32:43.240 people who are mentally ill too much and you say, oh, no, it's OK. And you start creating
00:32:50.320 programmatic ways that they can live and become, again, radicalized and really have vile rhetoric
00:33:00.160 against the people that they grew up around and that that love them that you know that raised them
00:33:07.120 even even you know they don't clearly don't agree ideologically with those people anymore
00:33:12.600 sometimes it can turn into this which is people who become so angry and they have the freedom
00:33:20.200 to essentially mow down people that they love individuals that they believe are the the root
00:33:29.320 cause of their pain, which of course we know that's not the case. And so for these individuals,
00:33:36.180 I think the mistake that's being made in these communities is again, that the community is going
00:33:42.740 way too soft and not taking the type of action that's necessary for people who are deranged and
00:33:49.900 mentally ill and not catching the signs of those things as they're culminating. And some of this
00:33:56.160 is you know just being ignorant of of ignoring the facts that are in front of your face i think
00:34:02.840 some of this is is societal where it's the community is is driving this community think of
00:34:08.540 you know this this is very similar to white guilt as people have this are made to believe that they
00:34:14.440 have this this lgbtq or trans guilt where it's like oh well you know again we we cause these
00:34:22.080 problems and so therefore we should allow them to do whatever they want to do you know as
00:34:27.060 retribution for their feelings so they can go out and you know and there's a lot of connections here
00:34:32.880 to what we saw and just a few few years ago you know with the summer of love where people you know
00:34:39.480 in white guilt just were like oh we have to let people just riot and loot and destroy our cities
00:34:44.560 because you know it's really our fault and there's unfortunately some people who feel this very same
00:34:50.820 way especially in the wake of these murders of saying oh well you know it's not totally their
00:34:56.740 fault no that's it's it is totally being an independent individual who's making these
00:35:03.200 decisions and killing people and it should be addressed and should be figured out how to how
00:35:08.400 to prevent these things and not not yeah set to the side and and okayed and and have eyes just
00:35:15.360 batted like oh well this is a community problem that's not a community problem this is
00:35:20.480 this is a very much an ideological radicalism problem that's happening in your own community
00:35:27.620 just all around 100 and and in fact i if um if i understand correctly i believe the blaze
00:35:34.880 or are some folks at the blaze are actually trying this is something i'm i'm going to pick
00:35:39.020 up as well um are actually trying to dig into the schools there so to try to determine whether
00:35:44.900 or not these two individuals went to the same school system? And if so, what sort of things,
00:35:51.180 grade school, elementary school, high school, were they being presented from those schools
00:35:57.220 that had to do with this very issue? Were those things being presented at an early age? Because
00:36:03.600 guess what? We've seen that all over the country in a variety of districts. And typically, yeah,
00:36:10.080 You wouldn't, you certainly, I wouldn't associate that with Utah, but to your point, they are infiltrating schools all over the place with this radicalism.
00:36:19.700 Yeah.
00:36:20.300 I mean, the terrifying part is, you know, after this, after, you know, this person committed these violent acts, you know, the news and the local media, we're still referring to him as a, as a woman.
00:36:32.320 um we're still you know more concerned about you know clearly his feelings and the trans
00:36:40.040 community's feelings than the act that that was committed um and again this is this is in recent
00:36:47.180 reporting the last number of days this is following the the murder of charlie and so
00:36:52.720 there's a real problem here that needs to be addressed and again i don't want to target
00:36:59.220 washington alone because it's not just this isn't a problem this is a problem that's happened in
00:37:04.760 washington but it's it's clearly happening in a lot of places where to your point there can be
00:37:11.420 one bad apple of of a handful of of people a network potentially of people who are enabling
00:37:19.620 this type of behavior um it doesn't take very many bad people uh to motivate other bad people
00:37:26.760 And you mentioned this, they're both, you know, they're not the exact same age, but they're in a similar age category here. They're not that far apart. And so, you know, that type of thing needs to be figured out because that can become a case study and also something that people look for or watch for or correct in other school systems or, you know, in other communities, wherever that may have stemmed from to prevent future violence from radicalists that have been
00:37:56.760 so radicalized in this trans ideology that we've seen that very clear or hopefully hopefully you
00:38:04.820 know you create a system of indicators where schools or counselors or faith leaders whoever
00:38:10.880 it is parents you know when they see these indicators pop up that someone is on one of
00:38:16.280 those paths that you can intervene and get them off that path before it ends up turning into
00:38:23.140 something like this long before. Again, this is about preventative measures. Right back,
00:38:28.680 Jack Posobiec. So we're going to call this the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour. I can say
00:38:34.620 confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it
00:38:38.920 wasn't for Jack Posobiec. And that is, I'm going to be honest.
00:38:42.120 i have human events daily we're on with tyler boyer the coo of turning point action and
00:38:54.500 teller i gotta say you know i'd be remiss if i didn't have you on this week and talk about all
00:38:58.540 the incredible successes of turning point action not just in the last uh 24 48 hours but really
00:39:06.580 the past couple of weeks when you look at what's happened in Louisiana, what's happened in Indiana,
00:39:12.840 and then, of course, the state of Texas with Ken Paxton. Talk us through how you're looking at
00:39:19.920 things shaping out as we're moving, and the redistricting, and how we're moving towards
00:39:23.760 November. Yeah, I mean, Jack, things are going very, very well. We were pleased to be one of
00:39:30.540 the first national organizations to endorse ken paxton in his race uh got some grief from that
00:39:36.620 uh from a lot of established cronies and uh it paid off dividends because you know we believed
00:39:45.800 in ken from day one he's he's a good man he's uh been a friend to the organization for some time
00:39:51.980 and conservatives in texas are tired of you know this bush era weak need give up before you get
00:40:00.280 started type politics in texas and more importantly at the national level you need guys like ken
00:40:06.260 paxton who are actually going to fight uh to be in the u.s senate and it wasn't just ken that won
00:40:13.840 big yesterday with the president's announcement which we're so glad it's better late than never
00:40:18.560 but incredibly grateful to the president uh for making that because there was a ton of pressure
00:40:23.600 being put on him to endorse cornyn all the way especially when cornyn you know kept it competitive
00:40:29.400 in the first first election before the runoff. But in Georgia yesterday, we saw a huge day
00:40:35.620 again for another U.S. Senate candidate, Mike Collins. Mike has not been endorsed by the
00:40:41.320 president yet. I think I think there's a good chance that he will be in the runoff. But he
00:40:46.640 was endorsed early by Turning Point Action. Our team in Georgia has been helping him. We've been
00:40:52.340 helping the Trump endorsed candidate for for Governor Burt Jones, who is a great conservative
00:40:57.300 as well they both had great days they weren't able to break the 50 threshold but they're well
00:41:03.180 on their way uh for the runoff in georgia huge huge huge days uh for the team and you mentioned
00:41:11.540 louisiana huge to knock out a massive rhino out of the u.s senate so i mean you we are trending
00:41:18.980 towards a possibility here of having you know basically a plus three where you have kind of
00:41:26.460 a waffly uh terrible situation either democrats or democrat light uh in the u.s senate uh that is
00:41:34.540 a huge huge culture shift uh in the republican conference if if if we can be if we can get get
00:41:41.300 the job done this november no i think that's right and and certainly look you know the democrats if
00:41:47.100 they you know if and if they want to put money chasing ken paxton texas then guess what that's
00:41:52.660 money that they're not going to have to spend in Georgia, in Maine, in North Carolina, et cetera,
00:42:00.020 et cetera, Michigan, you know, all these other places. So I keep hearing these people saying,
00:42:03.860 oh, well, you know, now we have to fight harder. We have to spend money in Texas,
00:42:07.360 but actually they do as well. So if, you know, that's, that's the nature of competitive races,
00:42:11.980 go ask Kentucky for about that, right? Last night about how that money works in elections. So
00:42:16.560 the, the idea, you know, I think is kind of silly and plus James Tallarico just is not
00:42:21.040 a strong candidate. I think everybody realizes that who's looking at the race. But, you know,
00:42:26.140 actually, Tyler, one of the things that I wanted to touch on you is when you look at,
00:42:30.500 we're basically seeing two sitting senators getting primaried in the same year on the
00:42:35.040 Republican side. We've also seen President Trump express his frustration with the Senate leadership,
00:42:41.360 with the Senate conference. You know, just looking at the tea leaves, not asking you to weigh in,
00:42:45.960 But do you think, as I've said on this program, that John Thune may not be long for the Senate majority position?
00:42:54.020 Yeah, I mean, I think you're right.
00:42:55.720 I mean, it's a huge failure for John Thune not to be able to get the Save America Act done.
00:43:00.600 I mean, this is this is one of the easiest things that you could possibly ever get done.
00:43:05.180 And that's basically what's led to this point.
00:43:07.940 And I want to remind everyone, Ken Paxton actually proved how legit he is when he came out.
00:43:15.960 in a statement and said, I will step down and allow Cornyn to essentially win if Thune will
00:43:24.840 just get the Save America Act done with Cornyn and these others that have been somewhat roadblocks
00:43:30.160 in this in this process. And guess what happened? Nothing. They did nothing. So these and these
00:43:36.400 people, they care about these races more than anything because they want to maintain leadership.
00:43:39.780 Right. So there's not no one that that Thune wants in the Senate more than John Cornyn.
00:43:47.120 And that wasn't even motivation enough for them to get the Save America Act done.
00:43:52.920 You know, you look at this and you go, what is the holdup here? 0.70
00:43:57.080 The holdup is the uniparty working against the American people.
00:44:01.840 And when I say American people, I don't mean just Republicans or conservatives.
00:44:04.780 I mean, everybody, because the Save America Act polls at over 80 percent in most states.
00:44:09.780 you have really bad leadership getting zero done for america you got to replace them so i i mean
00:44:17.280 i think charlie was very vocal about this um in fact before his murder um we had talked about
00:44:25.000 needing to go to thune's home state and potentially conduct some rallies uh to make the people in
00:44:33.520 public aware of how bad this really is nationwide and how bad he's making you know his home state
00:44:39.260 look. And, you know, we're, I think we're more than willing to do that, especially in Charlie's
00:44:44.160 honor to make sure that we get this thing done, because if Thune can't get the basics done,
00:44:50.060 there's no way that you can count on him to do the hard stuff, especially in the final two years
00:44:54.700 of the Trump presidency. Well, and I remember, and, you know, you can even go look at some of
00:45:00.160 Charlie's tweets from 2024, 2025, and even publicly, he was saying, just deliver. All you
00:45:07.400 have to do is deliver john all you have to do senator thune if you deliver you will be a hero
00:45:14.020 and i think everyone agrees on that it's it's not anything personal it's not anything um you know
00:45:20.340 that that oh we've got some some issue with them or you know something like that no you know bad
00:45:25.240 bad blood or like some long-standing beef no it's literally just did you deliver on the things that
00:45:30.740 you promised did you deliver on the president's agenda did you deliver on the save act did you
00:45:36.840 deliver on border security border funding the filibuster all of the things that we could you
00:45:41.120 know we could go down the list again and again and i remember there were a number of us who were
00:45:45.680 pulling for rick scott back in that sort of i think it was november of 24 time frame when this
00:45:52.340 question came up and these were some of the things that we brought up yep i mean rick scott overnight
00:45:58.760 would change the composition of the senate this is what they're most afraid of is if you have a
00:46:04.780 leader like rick scott that's getting things done guess what happens to america america starts 0.99
00:46:08.900 realizing you know a good u.s senator can get things done and and you get rid of more cornons 0.94
00:46:14.920 and and that's what they're afraid of and so the power stranglehold that is is being held right now 0.99
00:46:21.700 within the u.s senate and it's on both sides it's not just the republican party it's the democrat
00:46:25.620 party too the democrats are very afraid of the progressive wing um you know the republican unit
00:46:32.540 party is afraid of the conservative wing but if you get one good leader in um it it starts to
00:46:40.000 really uh you know call out those who are getting nothing done and they get exposed and their time
00:46:47.280 is short and they don't want that and so uh nothing could be more important i think especially
00:46:54.060 the final two years of the trump presidency than to get somebody in that can do that and by the way
00:46:59.620 that's going to help us with candidacies in 2028 you know there's a number of u.s senators that
00:47:06.160 may decide that their time is up that they have no chance to win and we have really good candidates
00:47:11.380 in some of these deep red states that really should be running um and and that's what my hope
00:47:17.500 is is that we can continue to use whatever leverage that we have at turning point action
00:47:22.800 to encourage that uh that we can encourage good candidates particularly in these deep red states
00:47:29.120 uh it is it is just so shameful to have states that trump won by 20 or 30 points
00:47:35.320 and have you know republicans who are out banging the drum for the save america act
00:47:41.800 it's just bizarre mind-blowing well hey tyler i you know i'm i'm i'm a fan of south dakota i like
00:47:46.860 i like rapid city you know maybe i don't know just saying just saying tonight i hear it's nice
00:47:51.320 uh in the summertime all i'm saying tyler boyer where can people follow you in turning point
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