Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - September 10, 2026


REMEMBERING CHARLIE KIRK


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00:00:00.000 Amen.
00:00:18.580 Oh, my God.
00:00:48.580 ¶ Maria, gratia plena ¶
00:00:59.580 ¶ Ave, ave, domino ¶
00:01:09.580 Oh
00:01:39.580 Thank you.
00:02:09.580 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard.
00:02:27.880 Today is one year since the day that our friend Charlie was taken from us.
00:02:37.660 and what i wanted to do today for myself for my family for everyone
00:02:47.760 was not to do a show about the news or talk about what's going on in the world the world
00:02:58.120 will be there the world can wait but i wanted to take one day and remember charlie in the way that
00:03:06.680 Charlie would start every single day
00:03:09.240 with a passage from Scripture.
00:03:15.120 And he would send off a text message every morning,
00:03:19.300 whatever he was reading that day
00:03:21.120 or whatever he was reflecting on.
00:03:23.820 And he would send a text message
00:03:26.240 to the people he was closest to
00:03:27.720 with whatever passage it was.
00:03:30.020 And so today I was hoping
00:03:32.760 that in remembrance of Charlie, that we could spend some time today,
00:03:40.000 as I'm sure he would very much approve of us turning to the Scripture.
00:03:46.580 And in order to assist me in that, as I'm no priest, that I decided to call one.
00:03:53.800 And so we have Father Steve Grunau, who's joining us.
00:03:57.200 He's the CEO of Word on Fire Ministries.
00:04:01.140 Father Steve, how are you?
00:04:02.060 to be with you today on this day when we remember Charlie. He's a husband, a father.
00:04:11.820 He influenced the culture tremendously and touched so many lives. So today is the day
00:04:18.940 that we're going to remember that legacy. But also, we're going to remember something about
00:04:23.960 Charlie, that he was a man of the Word of God. And the Word of God is something that all we
00:04:29.940 Christians share a reverence and love and devotion to. So today we're going to go through
00:04:36.260 the scriptures together, and in doing so, we're going to call to mind Charlie's memory. We're
00:04:41.860 going to pray for him, pray for his family, and pray for all our friends at Turning Point.
00:04:46.980 We know that, as Charlie would say, you know, if you're starting with the Bible,
00:04:51.000 you're doing it right.
00:04:51.640 the Father and of the Son and the Holy Spirit.
00:04:57.440 And Jack, could you read the passage from the Book of Wisdom?
00:05:00.840 It's chapter 3, verses 1 through 9.
00:05:04.820 I'd be happy to.
00:05:08.140 But the souls of the just are in the hand of God,
00:05:11.060 and the torment of death shall not touch them.
00:05:15.500 In the sight of the unwise, they seem to die,
00:05:18.540 and their departure was taken for misery.
00:05:21.640 And they're going away from us for utter destruction, but they are in peace.
00:05:27.200 And though in the sight of men they suffered torments, their hope is full of immortality.
00:05:33.980 Afflicted in few things, in many they shall be well rewarded, because God hath tried them,
00:05:40.820 and found them worthy of himself. As gold in the furnace, he hath proved them, and as a victim of
00:05:47.580 a holocaust he hath received them, and in time there shall be respect had to them. The just
00:05:55.120 shall shine and shall run to and fro like sparks among the reeds. They shall judge nations and
00:06:02.620 rule over people, and their Lord shall reign forever. They that trust in him shall understand
00:06:09.240 the truth, and they that are faithful in love shall rest in him, for grace and peace is to his
00:06:17.020 elect. Chapter 4, verses 7 to 14.
00:06:24.300 The just man, though he die early, shall be at rest.
00:06:30.160 For the age that is honorable comes not with the passing of time,
00:06:35.100 nor can it be measured in terms of years.
00:06:39.820 Rather, understanding is the hoary crown for men,
00:06:43.280 And an unsullied life, the attainment of old age
00:06:47.940 He who pleased God was loved
00:06:52.160 He who lived among sinners was transported, snatched away
00:06:57.800 Lest wickedness pervert his mind or deceit beguile his soul
00:07:01.940 For the witchery of paltry things obscures what is right
00:07:07.940 and the whirl of desire transforms the innocent mind.
00:07:15.260 Having become perfect in a short while,
00:07:19.400 he reached the fullness of a long career
00:07:22.260 for his soul was pleasing to the Lord.
00:07:27.160 Therefore, he sped him out of the midst of wickedness.
00:07:32.240 But the people saw and did not understand
00:07:35.300 nor did they take this into account.
00:07:39.700 Jack, if you could please read from the book of the prophet Isaiah,
00:07:43.780 chapter 25, verses 6 through 9.
00:07:48.840 Absolutely.
00:07:51.280 Book of Isaiah, chapter 25, verses 6 to 9.
00:07:56.320 And the Lord of hosts shall make unto all people in this mountain
00:08:00.140 a feast of fat things, a feast of wine,
00:08:04.000 a feast of fat things of marrow, of wine purified from the lees.
00:08:09.080 And he shall destroy in this mountain the face of the bond with which all people were tied,
00:08:14.620 and the web that he began over all nations.
00:08:17.960 He shall cast death down headlong forever,
00:08:20.760 and the Lord God shall wipe away tears from every face, 1.00
00:08:23.800 and the reproach of his people he shall take away from off the whole earth,
00:08:28.780 for the Lord hath spoken it.
00:08:31.080 And they shall say in that day,
00:08:33.400 Lo, this is our God. We have waited for him, and he will save us.
00:08:38.840 This is the Lord. We have patiently waited for him.
00:08:42.580 We shall rejoice and be joyful in his salvation.
00:08:49.300 Psalm 23
00:08:50.480 The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.
00:08:57.480 In verdant pastures he gives me repose.
00:09:00.560 Beside restful waters he leads me, he refreshes my soul
00:09:05.160 He guides me in right paths for his namesake
00:09:10.060 Even though I walk in the dark valley, I fear no evil
00:09:14.460 For you are at my side with your rod and your staff that give me courage
00:09:22.180 You spread the table before me in the sight of my foes
00:09:26.200 You anoint my head with oil, my cup overflows
00:09:31.180 Only goodness and kindness follow me
00:09:36.420 All the days of my life
00:09:38.880 And I shall dwell in the house of the Lord
00:09:43.420 For years to come
00:09:45.780 Jack, can you read from the letter of St. Paul
00:09:50.080 To the Romans, chapter 5, verses 5 through 11?
00:09:56.200 The Letter of St. Paul to the Romans, chapter 5, verses 5 to 11.
00:10:04.340 And hope confoundeth not, because the charity of God is poured forth in our hearts by the Holy
00:10:11.300 Ghost who is given to us. For why did Christ, when as yet we were weak, according to the time,
00:10:18.780 die for the ungodly? For scarce for a just man will one die, yet perhaps for a good man
00:10:26.060 someone would dare to die
00:10:28.900 but God commandeth his charity towards us
00:10:33.600 because when it yet
00:10:35.840 we were sinners
00:10:37.200 as according to the time
00:10:39.500 Christ died for us
00:10:40.860 much more therefore
00:10:42.400 being now justified by his blood
00:10:45.520 shall we be saved from wrath through him
00:10:47.860 for if when we were enemies
00:10:50.320 we were reconciled to God
00:10:52.200 by the death of his son
00:10:53.360 much more being reconciled
00:10:55.680 shall we be saved by his life.
00:10:59.160 And not only so, but also we glory in God
00:11:02.260 through our Lord Jesus Christ,
00:11:04.920 by whom we have now received reconciliation.
00:11:08.420 From the letter of St. Paul to the Romans,
00:11:10.980 chapter 8, verses 14 to 23.
00:11:17.120 Brothers and sisters,
00:11:18.560 those who are led by the Spirit of God
00:11:20.720 are sons of God.
00:11:21.900 For you did not receive a spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you received a spirit of adoption through which we cry, Abba, Father.
00:11:35.640 The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs, heirs of God, and joint heirs with Christ.
00:11:45.740 if only we suffer with him, so that we may also be glorified with him.
00:11:55.020 I consider that the sufferings of this present time are as nothing
00:12:00.100 compared with the glory to be revealed for us.
00:12:05.720 For creation awaits with eager expectation the revelation of the children of God.
00:12:11.660 For creation was made subject to futility, not of its own accord, but because of the one who subjected it, in hope that creation itself would be set free from slavery to corruption and share in the glorious freedom of the children of God.
00:12:33.580 We know that all creation is groaning and labor pains even until now.
00:12:38.880 Not only that, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, we also groan within ourselves as we wait for adoption, the redemption of our own bodies.
00:12:53.160 Jack, can you read an excerpt from the second letter of St. Paul to the Corinthians, chapter 4, verses 14 to 5, verse 1?
00:13:04.540 the second letter of saint paul to the corinthians chapter 4 verse 14 to chapter 5 verse 1
00:13:15.260 knowing that he who raised up jesus will raise up also with jesus and place us with you for all
00:13:24.940 things are for your sakes that the grace abounding through many may abode in thanksgiving unto the
00:13:31.820 glory of God. For which cause we faint not. But though our outward man is corrupted, yet the
00:13:39.660 inward man is renewed day by day. For that which is at present momentary and light of our tribulation
00:13:46.820 worketh for us above measure, exceedingly in eternal weight of glory. While we look not at
00:13:54.440 the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are
00:14:00.160 temporal, but the things which are not seen are eternal. For we know, if our earthly house of
00:14:07.580 this habitation be dissolved, that we have a building of God, a house not made with hands,
00:14:14.140 eternal in heaven. From the second letter of St. Paul to Timothy, chapter 2, verses 8 to 13.
00:14:23.600 Beloved, remember Jesus Christ raised from the dead, a descendant of David.
00:14:27.760 Such is my gospel for which I am suffering even to the point of chains like a criminal
00:14:33.780 But the word of God is not chained
00:14:37.040 Therefore I bear with everything for the sake of those who are chosen
00:14:43.360 So that they too may obtain the salvation that is in Christ Jesus together with eternal glory
00:14:50.780 This saying is trustworthy
00:14:54.740 If we have died with him, we shall also live with him.
00:15:01.880 If we persevere, we shall also reign with him.
00:15:06.860 But if we deny him, he will deny us.
00:15:11.940 Yet if we are unfaithful, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny himself.
00:15:20.380 A reading from the Holy Gospel according to Matthew.
00:15:24.740 This is Matthew chapter 11, verses 25 to 30.
00:15:30.900 At that time, Jesus exclaimed,
00:15:33.260 I give praise to you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth.
00:15:37.640 For although you have hidden these things from the wise and the learned,
00:15:41.880 you have revealed them to little ones.
00:15:45.660 Yes, Father, such has been your gracious will.
00:15:49.860 All things have been handed over to me by my Father.
00:15:53.000 no one knows the son except the father
00:15:57.620 and no one knows the father except the son
00:16:01.140 and anyone to whom the son wishes to reveal him
00:16:03.920 come to me all you who labor
00:16:09.080 and are burdened and I will give you rest
00:16:12.480 take my yoke upon you and learn from me
00:16:17.380 for I am meek and humble of heart
00:16:20.080 and you will find rest for yourselves.
00:16:24.920 For my yoke is easy and my burden like.
00:16:31.760 The Gospel of the Lord.
00:16:36.980 Jack, can you read from the Gospel of John, chapter 6, verses 37 to 40?
00:16:44.140 The Gospel of John, chapter 6, verses 37 to 40.
00:16:50.080 All that the Father giveth to me shall come to me.
00:16:55.200 And him that cometh to me I will not cast out,
00:16:58.460 because I came down from heaven,
00:17:01.020 not to do my own will,
00:17:03.040 but the will of him that sent me.
00:17:05.860 Now this is the will of the Father who sent me,
00:17:09.540 that of all that he hath given me I should lose nothing,
00:17:13.760 but should raise it up again in the last day.
00:17:16.960 And this is the will of my Father that sent me,
00:17:19.540 that everyone who seeth the Son
00:17:22.120 and believeth in him
00:17:23.720 may have life everlasting.
00:17:28.500 And I will raise him up in the last day.
00:17:33.620 In the Gospel of John,
00:17:36.200 chapter 11, verses 17 to 27.
00:17:43.640 When Jesus arrived in Bethany,
00:17:46.140 he found that Lazarus
00:17:47.600 had already been in the tomb for four days.
00:17:52.160 Now Bethany was near Jerusalem, only about two miles away,
00:17:56.600 and many of the Jews had come to Martha and Mary to comfort them about their brother.
00:18:04.080 When Martha heard that Jesus was coming, she went to meet him, but Mary sat at home.
00:18:11.320 Martha said to Jesus, Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died.
00:18:17.600 But even now I know that whatever you ask of God, God will give you.
00:18:25.680 Jesus said to her,
00:18:28.200 Your brother will rise.
00:18:31.580 Martha said to him,
00:18:33.860 I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.
00:18:40.880 Jesus told her,
00:18:43.560 I am the resurrection and the life.
00:18:46.140 he who believes in me even if he dies will live
00:18:50.940 and everyone who lives and believes in me will never die
00:18:55.520 do you believe this
00:18:58.840 she said to him yes lord
00:19:03.140 i have come to believe that you are the christ the son of god
00:19:07.820 the one who is coming into the world
00:19:11.660 jack can you read from the gospel of john chapter 14 verses 1 through 6
00:19:20.040 the gospel of john chapter 14 verses 1 to 6 let not your heart be troubled you believe in god
00:19:33.200 believe also in me in my father's house there are many mansions
00:19:38.460 If not, I would have told you, because I go to prepare a place for you.
00:19:45.720 And if I shall go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and will take you to myself,
00:19:52.660 that where I am you also may be. And whither I go you know, and the way you know.
00:20:01.760 Thomas saith to him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest, and how can we know the way?
00:20:08.460 Jesus saith to him
00:20:11.060 I am the way
00:20:13.180 and the truth
00:20:14.700 and the life
00:20:16.040 no man cometh to the Father
00:20:19.560 but by me
00:20:21.000 I've been given a privileged opportunity
00:20:24.220 here today
00:20:25.400 to say a few words about Charlie Kirk
00:20:29.860 I did not know Charlie Kirk personally
00:20:33.680 but I knew him through the effects of his life
00:20:37.880 when i first began to hear of this young man boldly and courageously going onto university campuses
00:20:47.960 and engaging people with the truth i was a little bit flummoxed that a person so young
00:20:55.640 could be so bold but also so eloquent and i came to see in him a kind of prophet of sorts
00:21:06.580 His prophecy was the truth, and that truth was informed by his deep relationship with Christ.
00:21:17.560 I think it was his relationship with Christ that informed everything that Charlie was doing and saying.
00:21:24.200 Even the fact that he sought not simply to argue with people, but to speak to them, to understand them, to allow them to speak to him.
00:21:40.180 That was in itself an imitation of Christ.
00:21:44.220 those who become familiar with Christ
00:21:48.960 through prayer
00:21:50.480 through the word of God
00:21:52.160 do become more like him
00:21:55.060 what they say and do
00:21:56.680 and I came to see that in Charlie
00:22:00.280 Charlie was supposed to come
00:22:04.500 and film an episode of a show I produce
00:22:07.800 while Bishop Barron presents
00:22:09.620 but his life was cut short
00:22:13.080 before he could do so.
00:22:16.500 And I remember that as being a period of time
00:22:20.920 where there was a great absence,
00:22:23.960 like a cavity of sorts,
00:22:26.680 in all those, of course, who knew Charlie,
00:22:30.060 but also in the nation itself.
00:22:36.780 That cavity was filled by prayer.
00:22:43.080 That cavity was filled by witness to Christ.
00:22:48.500 That cavity was filled by the Word of God.
00:22:55.180 It is the mission of every Christian to become an ambassador for Christ.
00:23:00.660 And I think that best describes who Charlie Kirk was and is.
00:23:07.360 he remains an ambassador to Christ
00:23:12.040 not just simply in memory
00:23:13.440 but in all of those of us
00:23:17.340 all of us
00:23:18.280 for whom his life had great impact
00:23:22.260 whether we knew him personally or not
00:23:25.760 you know father there's a
00:23:32.340 story that
00:23:34.360 I remember that what you just said
00:23:38.040 it just popped into my mind
00:23:41.400 that when I first came to work for Turning Point
00:23:44.000 and I'd been at events
00:23:47.600 and spoken at some of the events
00:23:48.800 but when Charlie wanted to bring me in
00:23:50.960 and wanted to start the Human Events show
00:23:54.020 with Turning Point
00:23:55.440 he said this is a big step
00:23:58.180 and he said Jack why don't we go pray
00:24:01.940 and i said i'd love that and the two of us went out to a church in uh in the phoenix area and
00:24:12.540 it's a catholic church and it was empty but two of us just walk in nobody around no cameras
00:24:19.900 anything like that and
00:24:22.460 we just walked up to the very front
00:24:27.300 pew
00:24:28.660 we knelt down together
00:24:30.240 and we just prayed silently
00:24:33.160 for
00:24:33.680 I couldn't even tell you how long it was
00:24:36.820 30, 40 minutes
00:24:37.940 and we just prayed
00:24:40.320 that
00:24:41.940 that whatever work we did together
00:24:45.080 whatever
00:24:45.540 events and
00:24:50.800 organizing and
00:24:52.080 all the rest that it would that god would send the holy spirit and to send his blessing and
00:25:01.540 when i asked charlie i said what made you you know what made you pick this church and he he said
00:25:08.840 come here and they walked to the back and right there i didn't even realize this but he had known
00:25:15.480 that they had on display
00:25:18.300 because it was traveling through
00:25:20.380 the western United States at that time
00:25:22.680 they had on display
00:25:23.540 one of the gloves
00:25:25.720 of Padre Pio
00:25:27.280 his actual glove was there
00:25:29.860 temporarily as it was making its way
00:25:32.280 through Arizona
00:25:32.860 on one of these tours
00:25:35.760 that was it
00:25:38.600 it was just us
00:25:39.600 me, Charlie
00:25:41.900 and Padre Pio's glove
00:25:44.740 so he showed you that the glove was there right and it was you know on display the relic was on
00:25:54.380 display and of course he didn't even mention it until until after we had finished that we had
00:26:01.860 been praying in front of this in front of the the relic of padre pio his actual glove and i just
00:26:08.560 couldn't believe it that you know how could all of these things come together at at one time
00:26:15.320 and that's it's one of the many many things that when i reflect back on the times that we did have
00:26:22.220 together that i say i always felt like god was always felt like god was watching our backs that
00:26:29.800 God was pushing us to go further
00:26:33.580 and keep doing more.
00:26:38.080 So I don't think that anything good
00:26:41.260 comes from human effort
00:26:44.080 that isn't informed by prayer.
00:26:47.900 I think that when you place yourself
00:26:50.200 in a disposition to rely on God's grace
00:26:54.500 and ask Him,
00:26:57.120 rather than just thinking
00:26:58.400 you do everything yourself,
00:26:59.800 Um, I think that those efforts kind of just kind of fizzle out.
00:27:04.860 So I think, you know, from what you're indicating to me that, you know, the first move that
00:27:09.940 Charlie wanted to make with you was let's go pray.
00:27:12.880 And then the considerable amount of time that you spent in prayer.
00:27:16.860 Um, I think he, if he didn't know that, you know, directly, he knew it intuitively.
00:27:22.300 Um, you know, Charlie longed for a spiritual revival in this country.
00:27:28.180 And from what I understand, he saw that as the appropriate, you know, foundation and source of any kind of political or cultural transformation.
00:27:37.860 And he was absolutely right about that.
00:27:42.500 Spiritual transformation comes first.
00:27:48.000 And I think that was really, really impressed upon me in his passing when he was killed.
00:27:57.360 that the soul of a nation has to be directed by God, God in Christ in particular,
00:28:11.240 or we just become soul sick and we start drifting.
00:28:18.500 And, you know, Charlie was so good.
00:28:22.300 He was so erudite, so philosophically, politically astute.
00:28:27.360 But I just think that perhaps the most important lesson that he left for us to do is to bear testimony to the renewal of this nation through a renewal of our relationship with God in Christ.
00:28:44.260 that's at his core
00:28:46.460 that's what was always
00:28:48.040 driving it
00:28:49.240 it wasn't
00:28:49.980 the politics
00:28:51.480 it wasn't
00:28:52.380 the news
00:28:53.900 it was at his core
00:28:55.260 and
00:28:56.880 what I think
00:28:58.300 Charlie and I connected on
00:28:59.920 first and foremost
00:29:02.620 was that
00:29:04.040 Christ came first
00:29:05.980 if you understand that Christ comes first 0.87
00:29:09.600 then everything else will follow accordingly 0.84
00:29:12.420 but you have to start
00:29:15.860 as you do all things
00:29:17.620 with a prayer
00:29:18.700 Christ is first
00:29:22.260 and Christ is the
00:29:24.040 center of all that we do
00:29:26.440 Christ is the foundation upon which
00:29:30.520 all good things rest
00:29:31.820 I'd like us to offer some
00:29:36.360 petitionary prayer now
00:29:37.700 as we turn over our petitions to the Lord.
00:29:49.460 We pray for the repose of Charlie Kirk's soul,
00:29:52.940 that he may know all the full blessings of Christ's eternal kingdom.
00:29:57.660 We pray to the Lord.
00:30:02.120 We pray for Erica.
00:30:04.680 We pray for Erica and Charlie's children.
00:30:07.700 for their families, and for all the staff and friends and supporters of Turning Point.
00:30:15.560 And we pray for the president, for his cabinet, and all those elected to public office,
00:30:20.100 and all who serve the public good.
00:30:26.680 And we pray right now for a spirit of repentance,
00:30:30.360 for the conversion of all hearts and minds,
00:30:33.380 that those obstacles that block our way to Christ
00:30:38.200 might be overcome.
00:30:43.580 We pray for the Christian revival
00:30:45.700 that Charlie hoped for and prayed for.
00:30:49.360 May we accept our role as he did
00:30:51.880 as ambassadors for Christ.
00:30:56.220 And we pray for justice for Erica.
00:30:59.700 And we pray for her continued protection.
00:31:03.380 And we ask all these prayers through Christ our Lord.
00:31:08.440 Amen.
00:31:09.720 Amen.
00:31:13.500 Let us pray together the prayer
00:31:15.580 invoking the intercession of the Archangel Michael.
00:31:21.200 Holy Michael the Archangel,
00:31:23.400 defend us in battle.
00:31:26.160 Be our protection against the malice and snares of the devil.
00:31:30.380 May God rebuke him, we humbly pray, and do thou, O Prince of Heavenly Host, cast into
00:31:39.800 hell Satan and all the evil spirits who wander about the world seeking the ruin of souls.
00:31:51.840 Jack, may I offer a blessing to you and to our viewers?
00:31:56.920 Please.
00:31:57.560 The Lord be with you.
00:31:58.880 May Almighty God bless you
00:32:01.440 The Father, the Son
00:32:03.180 And the Holy Spirit
00:32:04.880 Amen
00:32:06.480 Jack, thank you for this wonderful
00:32:09.740 Privilege and blessing
00:32:11.080 It was good to be with you today
00:32:14.080 Thank you Father, I appreciate you
00:32:17.900 Being here and I'm sure
00:32:19.820 That many of our listeners and
00:32:21.500 Viewers will appreciate
00:32:23.620 And I hope that Charlie
00:32:25.700 Appreciates that
00:32:27.540 We didn't do news today
00:32:30.020 We didn't do commentary
00:32:31.300 We just spent time
00:32:33.400 With the word of God
00:32:35.040 God bless you Father
00:32:37.340 God bless you
00:32:38.860 Ladies and gentlemen as always
00:32:41.380 Have my permission to lay ashore
00:32:57.540 Thank you.
00:33:27.540 Thank you.
00:33:57.540 Thank you.
00:34:27.540 Thank you.
00:34:57.540 Thank you.