Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - September 15, 2025


The Charlie Kirk Assassination is NOT a "Both Sides Issue"


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48 minutes

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145.06279

Word Count

6,984

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632

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

Charlie Kirk, a loving husband and father, lost his life to an attack from a lunatic fringe of the far-left. President Obama calls for unity in the wake of his death, and calls for the death penalty for his killer.


Transcript

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00:00:26.680 And while our side of the aisle certainly has its crazies, it is a statistical fact that most of the lunatics in American politics today are proud members of the far left.
00:00:39.400 After Charlie died, one of his friends and one of our senior White House staffers had left-leaning operatives in his neighborhood passing out leaflets telling people what he looked like and where he lived, encouraging neighbors to harass him or God forbid to do worse.
00:00:56.680 While he was mourning his dead friend, he and his wife had to worry about the political terrorists drawing a big target on the home he shares with his young children.
00:01:09.500 Are these people violent?
00:01:11.360 I hope not.
00:01:12.980 But are they guilty of encouraging violence?
00:01:15.420 You damn well better believe it.
00:01:16.880 We can thank God that most Democrats don't share these attitudes, and I do, while acknowledging that something has gone very wrong with a lunatic fringe, a minority, but a growing and powerful minority on the far left.
00:01:34.500 There is no unity with people who scream at children over their parents' politics.
00:01:39.880 There is no unity with someone who lies about what Charlie Kirk said in order to excuse his murder.
00:01:46.280 There is no unity with someone who harasses an innocent family the day after the father of that family lost a dear friend.
00:01:53.960 There is no unity with the people who celebrate Charlie Kirk's assassination.
00:01:58.360 And there is no unity with the people who fund these articles, who pay the salaries of these terrorist sympathizers, who argue that Charlie Kirk, a loving husband and father, deserved a shot to the neck because he spoke words with which they disagree.
00:02:15.720 Did you know that the George Soros Open Society Foundation and the Ford Foundation, the groups who funded that disgusting article justifying Charlie's death, do you know they benefit from generous tax treatment?
00:02:29.340 They are literally subsidized by you and me, the American taxpayer.
00:02:34.620 And how do they reward us?
00:02:36.180 By setting fire to the house built by the American family over 250 years.
00:02:41.160 I am desperate for our country to be united in condemnation of the actions and the ideas that killed my friend.
00:02:49.320 I want it so badly that I will tell you a difficult truth.
00:02:53.720 We can only have it with people who acknowledge that political violence is unacceptable.
00:02:59.540 And when we work to dismantle the institutions that promote violence and terrorism in our own country.
00:03:07.440 Now, our government, you heard me talk to Stephen Miller about this, will be working very hard to do exactly that in the months to come.
00:03:15.700 We're not always going to get it right.
00:03:17.580 We will sometimes move more slowly than you would like.
00:03:20.420 We will sometimes move more slowly than I want us to.
00:03:23.380 But I promise you that we will explore every option to bring real unity to our country and stop those who would kill their fellow Americans because they don't like what they say.
00:03:34.920 But you have a role, too.
00:03:37.900 Civil society, Charlie understood this well, is not just something that flows from the government.
00:03:44.740 It flows from each and every one of us.
00:03:49.360 It flows from all of us.
00:03:52.400 So when you see someone celebrating Charlie's murder, call them out in hell.
00:03:56.700 Call their employer.
00:03:57.980 We don't believe in political violence, but we do believe in civility.
00:04:01.640 And there is no civility in the celebration of political assassination.
00:04:06.520 Get involved.
00:04:07.580 Get involved.
00:04:08.760 Get involved.
00:04:09.560 It's the best way to honor Charlie's legacy.
00:04:12.000 Start a chapter of TPUSA or get involved in the one that already exists.
00:04:16.700 If you're older, volunteer for your local party.
00:04:19.100 Write an op-ed in your local paper.
00:04:21.020 Run for office.
00:04:22.560 I can't promise you this is going to be easy.
00:04:25.840 I can't promise you that all of us will avoid Charlie's fate.
00:04:28.460 I can't promise you that I will avoid Charlie's fate.
00:04:32.620 But the best way to honor him is to shine the light of truth like a torch in the very darkest places.
00:04:40.380 Go do it.
00:04:42.200 We owe it to our friend to ensure that his killer is not just prosecuted but punished.
00:04:47.040 And the worst punishment is not the death penalty,
00:04:49.900 but the knowledge that Charlie's mission continues after he's gone.
00:04:54.880 St. Paul tells us in the book of Ephesians to put on the full armor of God.
00:05:01.780 Let all of us put on that armor and commit ourselves to that cause for which Charlie gave his life.
00:05:08.040 To rebuild a united states of America and to do it by telling the truth.
00:05:14.760 The end of the book of Ephesians to put on the full armor of God.
00:05:44.760 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:06:06.260 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:06:17.480 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:06:20.520 Christ is king!
00:06:22.100 On Wednesday, political activist Charlie Kirk, a lifelong Cubs fan and Chicago-area native,
00:06:30.020 was killed at a public gathering in Utah, leaving behind his wife and two young children.
00:06:36.020 The two young children was 31 years old.
00:06:50.100 Just, uh, this was for Charlie.
00:06:52.060 And I had a conversation once with Charlie where we were talking about the danger that we both face
00:07:00.100 from challenging entrenched interests.
00:07:04.480 And he asked me if I was scared to die.
00:07:07.120 And I said to him, there's a lot worse things than dying.
00:07:10.620 And one of those...
00:07:12.060 We'll stand in our way, and our golden age has just begun.
00:07:18.480 This is Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:07:20.280 Now it's time for everyone to understand what America First truly means.
00:07:24.920 Welcome to the second American Revolution.
00:07:29.340 So John 8, if I'm drawing from memory correctly, best embodies both Christ's mercy and love,
00:07:36.180 but also his commitment to truth.
00:07:39.460 And sometimes in the modern gospel, we overemphasize the grace,
00:07:44.360 and we underemphasize the truth.
00:07:46.760 And so we are far too willing to say, hey, Jesus loves everybody,
00:07:51.140 but we don't get to the second part of the conversation that says,
00:07:53.740 Jesus doesn't want you to live in sin.
00:07:55.500 For those of you that are not yet believers, it's very simple.
00:07:57.440 You're going to have a court date, we all die.
00:07:58.880 And you're all going to meet the supreme judge of the universe.
00:08:01.480 Justice is getting what you deserve, which is going to a not-so-good place.
00:08:04.800 We're all sinners, and we all fall short of the glory of God.
00:08:06.980 But thanks to the cross, a perfect loving God who came down in human form,
00:08:11.200 human flesh lived a perfect life and died for us so that we could live forever.
00:08:15.300 At that moment, we're about to get that sentencing into eternal damnation.
00:08:18.940 Somebody says, no, no, no, I know him.
00:08:20.600 I know her.
00:08:21.360 Welcome to eternal life.
00:08:22.500 You have an opportunity.
00:08:23.380 The gospel in four words is Jesus took my place.
00:08:26.140 Three words is him for me.
00:08:27.380 Two words is substitutionary atonement, and one word is grace.
00:08:30.740 Grace you cannot earn.
00:08:32.900 Grace you do not pay for.
00:08:35.060 It doesn't matter how much money you give to the hospital.
00:08:37.820 You can't earn it.
00:08:38.680 It doesn't matter if you're a good person.
00:08:39.940 It doesn't matter if you have always done the best you can.
00:08:42.420 Because what's different about Christianity is that it's a gift for all of humanity to receive,
00:08:47.540 regardless of everything that we have done.
00:08:50.000 I want to be remembered for courage, for my faith.
00:08:53.860 That would be the most important thing.
00:08:55.400 The most important thing is my faith.
00:08:59.800 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard.
00:09:03.040 Today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:09:05.580 Today is September 15th, 2025, Anno Domini.
00:09:11.800 I'm here live in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:09:15.980 I'm in Charlie's studio.
00:09:19.440 Charlie's chair is right next to me.
00:09:23.220 And Charlie's here.
00:09:27.680 And in a way, Charlie's everywhere.
00:09:29.080 Because he's with all of us.
00:09:33.580 And he's with God.
00:09:35.480 And his spirit will always live on.
00:09:40.460 And if you just heard Vice President Vance right there in the final segment of hosting the Charlie Kirk show,
00:09:52.240 he said it.
00:09:56.920 He spoke plainly.
00:09:59.080 And he was blunt.
00:10:01.120 This is no accident.
00:10:04.620 There is a violent extremist movement in this country.
00:10:08.640 And it is not a both sides issue.
00:10:13.140 One side has government taxpayer dollars and billions upon billions from the billionaire elite funding them,
00:10:25.560 propping them up, distributing their cancerous message.
00:10:29.080 And it is cancerous.
00:10:31.640 Because when you have a cancerous ideology that is completely disassociated with humanity,
00:10:39.680 the only possible answer to that is to cut out the cancer.
00:10:46.860 Because if we don't, it's going to eat our society and it's going to eat all of us, bit by bit.
00:10:57.780 And we need to do it for Charlie.
00:11:01.340 And more importantly, we need to do it for everyone.
00:11:05.920 We need to do it for our country.
00:11:08.060 We need to do it for God.
00:11:09.780 And, you know, look, folks, I'm no neurosurgeon.
00:11:17.800 I'm not trained in those arts.
00:11:20.260 But, you know, I know someone who is.
00:11:24.260 And, in fact, he's joining us right now.
00:11:27.400 His name is Dr. Ben Carson.
00:11:30.780 Dr. Carson, thank you so much for joining us today.
00:11:32.980 So good to be with you under tragic circumstances.
00:11:38.540 Absolutely.
00:11:39.540 Dr. Carson, I compared what Vice President Vance was talking about to a cancer.
00:11:46.900 You've got the background in this.
00:11:49.320 Would you say that's an inept analogy?
00:11:52.040 Dr. Yeah, I think it's a very good analogy.
00:11:55.660 You know, things have changed in our country.
00:11:58.440 There was a time not too many decades ago when people on the right side of the aisle and people on the left side of the aisle could have their arguments.
00:12:08.360 But they were still friends.
00:12:10.120 They could still go out and eat dinner together.
00:12:12.180 They didn't try to destroy each other because basically they wanted the same things.
00:12:17.300 It's just that they had different ideals about how to get it.
00:12:20.020 Now we have two sides, and they don't want the same thing, and that's a big deal.
00:12:26.500 We have a side that is progressively moving towards socialism and communism, and some people think this is of recent origin.
00:12:35.280 It's not.
00:12:36.400 It's been going on for decades, and if you look in the congressional record, January 10, 1963, more than 60 years ago,
00:12:44.640 Congressman Herlong of Florida read into the record from The Naked Communists, a book by W. Cleon Scousin,
00:12:54.720 The 45 Goals of Communism in America.
00:12:58.000 And they included things like getting control of the school system and the teacher units so you can indoctrinate the kids,
00:13:07.920 gaining control of the major media and Hollywood so that you could change the culture of our nation.
00:13:15.860 And we're seeing the fruits of those things.
00:13:18.460 There are many, many other things that they've said that we've seen happen as well.
00:13:22.740 And we need to understand that we're under attack.
00:13:26.420 Our system is under attack.
00:13:29.160 We can't passively resist it.
00:13:32.480 We have to actively resist it.
00:13:34.900 This is America that we're talking about, all the things that it stands for.
00:13:38.720 And you heard just last week a United States senator say, it's foolishness to think that your rights come from your creator.
00:13:48.260 They come from government.
00:13:49.800 How can that be going on in our country?
00:13:52.540 But it is because we allow it.
00:13:55.120 And we have to make a decision about who we are and what we're willing to fight for.
00:14:00.900 Or do we just want to capitulate?
00:14:02.640 And Dr. Carson, you know, it strikes me that it was just two days before what happened with Charlie that you and I were both there at that Museum of the Bible,
00:14:15.440 that incredible prayer event that the president commissioned his commission on religious liberty,
00:14:23.900 where he spoke with, again, directness, fierce directness at that senator's comments and said, no, that is not where our rights come from.
00:14:35.200 And if we sever our relationship with God, as so many in this country have spent decades trying to do,
00:14:42.500 we will sever our very relationship that provides us with those rights.
00:14:47.640 And then that is when you get to the point, as you say, in the communist Marxist radical goals,
00:14:54.620 where we begin to believe that others do not or should not have those rights as well.
00:15:01.320 That is the godless communist basis of what ultimately led to what happened with Charlie.
00:15:12.120 I firmly believe there's a direct line there.
00:15:14.080 There's a doctrine that they have.
00:15:18.460 It's the same kind of doctrine the radical jihadists have.
00:15:22.060 They believe themselves to be righteous.
00:15:24.940 And because they are righteous and everybody else is an infidel,
00:15:30.100 everybody else must either be converted to their way of thinking or be done away with.
00:15:36.220 And we're seeing that kind of philosophy creep into our society.
00:15:41.620 It's very dangerous.
00:15:42.560 I think these people who are toying around with socialism and communism and saying,
00:15:48.900 oh, they're not that bad, they're actually okay, they really need to do some reading.
00:15:53.920 They need to find out what has happened in the past.
00:15:57.040 Everybody who adopts their system adopts it under false pretenses.
00:16:02.700 But once they get their eye and grip around you, you can't get away.
00:16:06.720 We need to understand that we have a system in this country that is absolutely wonderful.
00:16:14.320 That's what Charlie always talked about.
00:16:16.500 And that's what he was fighting for.
00:16:18.220 And he recognized the incredible danger that we're in.
00:16:23.020 He tried to bring that to people's attention.
00:16:26.420 But he always did it in a respectful, a nice way.
00:16:30.300 Let's hear your argument.
00:16:31.520 Let's hear my argument.
00:16:32.620 Let's compare them.
00:16:33.920 Let's deal with facts and logic and common sense.
00:16:36.980 And I think that's what we need to continue to do.
00:16:41.180 We need to really push the idea of putting the facts in the middle of the table and arguing around the facts, not around ideology.
00:16:50.000 Well, I think that's exactly right.
00:16:53.600 And because Charlie did that and because they couldn't debate him, they assassinated him.
00:17:03.140 And because he had the facts on his side, he had truth on his side, he had righteousness on his side, they assassinated him.
00:17:13.160 And I just don't know how you take that.
00:17:17.480 It is a it is a minority of people, but it is a significant minority of people who would do something like this.
00:17:27.060 And then there's the you wake up the next day and there's tens of thousands of people celebrating it, cheering it.
00:17:35.240 It's it's become mainstream almost.
00:17:38.760 And I think some of the talking heads were saying they were originally blaming Charlie for it.
00:17:44.800 They were saying it was his fault that he got assassinated.
00:17:47.820 He should have watched his words or else something would happen.
00:17:50.760 That is a tyrannical anti-humanity kind of mindset.
00:17:58.720 It actually is.
00:17:59.780 And it wouldn't surprise me if it's part of a plan to silence the opposition, to frighten them into silence.
00:18:08.920 And, you know, if this one doesn't do it, maybe there'll be another one.
00:18:13.440 We have to be very vigilant.
00:18:15.040 And people need to understand that this is a real war that we're in.
00:18:20.520 And, you know, there were people who had information who could have reported what was going on and perhaps stop this.
00:18:28.840 And there will be people out there all the time who see things.
00:18:32.020 We need to recognize that this is a war and you're a participant in it.
00:18:37.440 You may wish to go sit in the corner and hide, but eventually it affects you.
00:18:41.720 So you may as well get involved right now.
00:18:45.840 I think that's exactly right.
00:18:47.200 Dr. Carson, can you hang on for a couple of minutes?
00:18:50.100 Are you are you able to hang on with us?
00:18:52.240 Absolutely.
00:18:53.880 We're going to hold on.
00:18:54.920 Dr. Ben Carson, when we come right back, we'll continue.
00:18:57.560 Justice for Charlie Kirk.
00:19:02.020 And in our way and our golden age has just begun.
00:19:08.720 This is Human Events with Jack Posobo.
00:19:10.480 Now it's time for everyone to understand what America First truly means.
00:19:15.140 Welcome to the second American Revolution.
00:19:20.500 So John 8, if I'm drawing from memory correctly, best is the most awesome thing ever, everybody.
00:19:26.660 It's amazing.
00:19:27.320 I could be traveling for six days, but as long as we get one Sabbath, it makes up for
00:19:33.500 all those six days.
00:19:35.100 No phones, no technology, just family and quality.
00:19:38.140 Well, and it's quality over quantity.
00:19:40.360 And, you know, when Gigi sees you walk into the room, she just beelines for daddy.
00:19:45.620 When it comes to your child, you are tasked to protect them both physically, spiritually
00:19:51.160 and emotionally.
00:19:52.300 You as men are a lot tougher and a lot more productive and can work a lot harder than you
00:19:55.780 think.
00:19:56.240 You can push yourself even harder.
00:19:57.680 Because here's the one thing I have found.
00:19:59.160 Once you have kids, there is this primal thing that comes into you where if you think
00:20:03.260 you have worked hard before, you are willing to go to the ends of the earth and push yourself
00:20:06.760 in ways that you never thought possible.
00:20:08.480 And that is your initial and most important task as of all.
00:20:11.780 We need to celebrate, embrace, platform, and sometimes if necessary, subsidize getting
00:20:18.380 married and having children.
00:20:20.220 We are not having enough children in this country.
00:20:23.300 This is a national crisis.
00:20:25.560 I don't want to hear about, well, you know, racism is a threat to America.
00:20:29.380 It's a bunch of horse pucky.
00:20:30.940 Oh, environmentalism, climate change.
00:20:33.260 Do you know what a threat to our country is?
00:20:35.560 We're not having enough babies.
00:20:36.600 We should celebrate big families.
00:20:38.380 The wealthiest people that I know are the ones with biggest families.
00:20:41.360 Big families, they are never lacking in purpose.
00:20:43.700 They are never lacking in direction.
00:20:45.500 And they're never bored.
00:20:46.460 The most unhappy people in America are bored.
00:20:49.620 Boredom is a gateway to deep unhappiness.
00:20:52.940 Raising children is hard.
00:20:54.380 It is a death to yourself.
00:20:55.820 It is one of the most difficult things you can do.
00:20:59.680 Jack Posobiec, we are back live, Phoenix, Arizona.
00:21:02.860 We are in the Charlie Kirk Show studio.
00:21:07.740 Of course, Charlie on assignment with God.
00:21:11.600 Dr. Ben Carson is our guest.
00:21:15.340 And Dr. Carson, I'd like, if you could, to address this,
00:21:21.780 exactly what the vice president just said there in his closing statement,
00:21:25.780 that this is not a both sides issue.
00:21:30.160 And we've heard so many talking heads lately say,
00:21:33.460 well, you know, there's political violence on both sides.
00:21:35.960 So let's just be anti-violence.
00:21:38.500 And it's really a both sides issue.
00:21:40.460 Is this a both sides issue, Dr. Carson?
00:21:43.120 This is clearly not a both sides issue.
00:21:46.500 This is not to say that both sides don't have some cleaning up to do.
00:21:50.600 But all you have to do is think back to George Floyd
00:21:54.100 and what happened after his death.
00:21:57.880 Billions of dollars of damage.
00:22:00.240 Dozens of people killed.
00:22:02.440 Fires and attacking the police station.
00:22:05.560 I mean, it was incredible.
00:22:07.220 And what has been done in this case?
00:22:10.980 Vigils, prayer, and contemplation.
00:22:16.680 Completely different.
00:22:17.680 I don't know how anybody can say those are similar reactions.
00:22:21.900 And one of them, I think, stems from the fact that it is God-inspired,
00:22:28.620 and one of them stems from the fact that it is inspired by evil.
00:22:32.640 And we need to just face that.
00:22:34.400 You know, this country, the founding document talks about our Creator.
00:22:41.180 Our Pledge of Allegiance talks about being one nation under God.
00:22:45.580 Every coin in our pocket, every bill in our wallet says,
00:22:48.320 In God we trust.
00:22:50.380 And God is love.
00:22:52.520 And God is justice.
00:22:55.160 And it was our faith, our belief in God,
00:22:58.240 that took us from a bunch of ragtag militiamen
00:23:02.420 to the pinnacle of the world in record time.
00:23:04.940 That was not a coincidence.
00:23:07.060 That was because of our belief systems.
00:23:09.700 And some people say,
00:23:11.220 Yeah, but you can't say that because the United States of America
00:23:14.500 had slavery.
00:23:16.780 Well, that was a horrible thing.
00:23:18.900 I will readily admit that.
00:23:20.380 But so has every other society.
00:23:23.660 And one of the things that you have to give us credit for
00:23:27.540 is we had so many people who were vehemently against it
00:23:30.300 that we fought a bloody civil war to stop it
00:23:32.980 and lost a large portion of our population.
00:23:36.920 There are good things about the United States of America.
00:23:40.440 And it's the reason that we have a dream.
00:23:45.000 You've heard of the American dream.
00:23:47.100 Have you heard of the Russian dream?
00:23:49.160 Or the French dream?
00:23:50.360 Or the Canadian dream?
00:23:51.260 I don't think so.
00:23:52.020 You've heard of the American dream.
00:23:53.780 Everybody knows about it all over the world.
00:23:56.700 And it's a desirable place to be.
00:23:59.380 And it's where dreams come true.
00:24:01.700 And now we're faced with a time of severe division
00:24:06.500 that could ultimately destroy us.
00:24:09.520 Jesus said,
00:24:10.240 A house divided against itself cannot stand.
00:24:13.720 And our enemies understand that.
00:24:15.980 And that's why they're using every tool they possibly can.
00:24:20.240 Race, gender, income, religion, politics, you name it.
00:24:29.460 They're using it to try to divide our society.
00:24:33.260 They can't overcome us militarily,
00:24:35.480 but they can destroy us from within.
00:24:37.660 And there's a great attack upon our foundation.
00:24:41.820 What is our foundation?
00:24:43.120 Our families and our faith.
00:24:46.660 And you made a very good point about the birth rate
00:24:50.880 and what's happened to it.
00:24:52.680 In the 60s, it was 3.6 births per woman.
00:24:56.120 Now it's 1.6 births per woman.
00:24:59.880 You can see where that will lead.
00:25:02.480 And we need to once again embrace the ideal of the family.
00:25:06.340 And we need to embrace policies that are pro-family and that are pro-faith.
00:25:13.200 That's exactly right, Dr. Carson.
00:25:19.040 And when we get faith right, you know, I was thinking about something.
00:25:23.740 And we said it here in Charlie's studio the other day when we were doing a one of the many memorials to Charlie that we're doing.
00:25:30.420 Is that maybe you could streamline it and say, you know, add to what Andrew Breitbart always taught us,
00:25:38.760 that politics is downstream of culture.
00:25:41.120 But you could streamline it and say, culture is downstream of faith.
00:25:46.920 And if you get your faith right, then your culture will be right.
00:25:51.540 And if you get your culture right, your politics will be right.
00:25:55.180 And that is why, when, as you say, when they went back to the 1960s,
00:25:59.440 what was the first target was God and the family.
00:26:02.860 And that's why we always talk about it.
00:26:04.480 God, family, country, in that order.
00:26:07.880 One of my old, you know, phrases we used to do, Turning Point T-shirts,
00:26:12.120 be a rebel, start a family.
00:26:14.040 And just that's a rebel, a rebel act in today's day and age.
00:26:19.020 Well, I've done that.
00:26:20.840 Charlie did that.
00:26:22.520 You, Dr. Carson, have done so much for so many families who have had families in trying times.
00:26:29.240 And I just wanted to say thank you for being here, for speaking out on this cancer in our society.
00:26:35.740 And, of course, your kind words for Erica and for the children and the entire Kirk family.
00:26:40.680 Thank you, Dr. Carson.
00:26:41.080 Absolutely.
00:26:41.840 And thank you for what you're doing.
00:26:43.940 And we have to just remember there was a reason for all of this.
00:26:47.720 And something will come out of it.
00:26:49.540 But we have to be part of making that happen.
00:26:53.020 Amen.
00:26:53.840 We do.
00:26:54.520 God is challenging all of us.
00:26:56.340 And God is clearly on the move and using this as a turning point.
00:27:02.480 We'll be right back.
00:27:03.020 Jack was over.
00:27:04.440 Where is Jack?
00:27:06.700 Where is Jack?
00:27:07.880 Where is he?
00:27:10.380 Jack, I want to see you.
00:27:14.000 Great job, Jack.
00:27:15.460 Thank you.
00:27:16.180 What a job you do.
00:27:17.260 You know, we have an incredible thing.
00:27:19.040 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad.
00:27:21.340 But we have guys.
00:27:22.820 And these are the guys who should be getting polices.
00:27:25.640 We have to go home.
00:27:27.040 We have to go home.
00:27:28.360 We have to go home.
00:27:29.580 We have to go home.
00:27:30.180 We have to go home.
00:27:30.800 We have to go home.
00:27:32.040 I felt like I had no choice but to do what I did.
00:27:48.420 So, yeah, kill them.
00:27:49.500 Kill the Nazis.
00:27:50.080 When conditions become right, people do get the opportunity to change the whole system
00:28:01.040 to a revolutionary struggle.
00:28:07.140 The international revolutionary people's guerrilla forces were to defend social revolutions around the world.
00:28:17.460 We've got to fight it out.
00:28:19.000 We're going to remake this country in the street.
00:28:23.200 Liberals get the f***ing wall first.
00:28:31.040 Someday, we've got to knock those motherf***ers to control this thing right on their ass.
00:28:35.220 All right, Jack Posobiec, we're back here.
00:28:41.320 Phoenix, Arizona, Turning Point Headquarters.
00:28:44.760 And, guys, I'd love if we can at some point, I don't know, either for the bumpers or for, like, you know, maybe the box up in the corner there.
00:28:52.340 I'd love to show that the vigil for Charlie Kirk, this incredible vigil that's going on, is just a few steps away from where I'm sitting right now here inside, you know, the Charlie Kirk studio.
00:29:07.420 And it's incredible.
00:29:09.480 I've gone to it.
00:29:10.660 You know, I go out there and come back, and it's, you know, we're keeping the lights on, we're keeping the mission on, we're keeping the mission going.
00:29:19.680 We're staying mission-focused here.
00:29:21.580 But at the same time, you just see this incredibly spontaneous outpouring, not just here at Turning Point, but also it's worldwide.
00:29:31.680 It's completely worldwide, and the remembrances of the man who sat right there, sat right in that chair that have been going on, are nothing short of a miracle.
00:29:44.820 We are in the Turning Point.
00:29:47.240 But at the same time, there are people who refuse to join in because we can't deny, and we're not going to be blind, and we're not going to be deaf, to the things that we saw and the things that we heard after the news of Charlie Kirk's assassination broke worldwide.
00:30:12.960 The celebrations, the cheers, I actually want to get, I'm going to call, I'm going to just, we're going to call for this on the fly in the studio.
00:30:21.860 I want you guys to pull out that clip.
00:30:23.560 There was this rapper, this Bob villain came out and was cheering at a concert.
00:30:30.140 I want to play that.
00:30:31.280 Take a second, and we'll get that clip up, you know, when we do, because I want people to hear this.
00:30:37.980 I want people to hear how pervasive, and sick, and cancerous, and disgusting it is.
00:30:47.340 Erica Kirk, she stood right here, giving that amazing statement, speech, eulogy, memorial, battle cry for her husband.
00:31:00.380 This wasn't a car accident, this wasn't a plane accident.
00:31:07.360 What was done to Charlie was a deliberate and intentional act of evil by evildoers.
00:31:14.880 They assassinated him because they could not debate him.
00:31:19.660 And then they turned around and cheered.
00:31:22.460 And whether it's Antifa, whether it's the radical trans movement, that was just shooting up schools of Catholic children in Minneapolis, two years before, Christian children in Nashville.
00:31:38.240 And it's just, you're going to sit there and tell me it's both sides?
00:31:41.400 You're going to sit there and tell me?
00:31:44.840 Oh, Jack, what about the both sides?
00:31:47.680 No.
00:31:48.860 We're not doing that anymore.
00:31:50.880 We're not playing that game anymore.
00:31:54.820 I don't care anymore.
00:32:00.120 How many more friends do I have to bury?
00:32:04.460 Until we can stop this.
00:32:06.960 No.
00:32:07.980 Because I'm not burying any more friends.
00:32:11.040 I'm not leaving any more people.
00:32:14.860 No.
00:32:16.020 No, we're not doing that anymore.
00:32:17.880 We're going to the next level and we're going to the J.D. Vance level.
00:32:24.760 That's what we're doing because the organizations are out there.
00:32:28.120 The people who had pre-knowledge of this are out there.
00:32:31.660 Go read the free beacon.
00:32:33.260 Go read the article.
00:32:34.220 You can see the tweets are all up.
00:32:35.600 I haven't addressed this.
00:32:37.680 I've seen it all.
00:32:38.380 And the people mocking, the shaming, the humiliating will continue.
00:32:45.840 Call all their employers.
00:32:49.040 Every last one.
00:32:51.340 Do not stop calling.
00:32:53.880 Mayor Giuliani, America's mayor, is a patriot.
00:32:57.460 He has been calling them personally.
00:33:00.920 Keep it up.
00:33:02.260 Keep it all up.
00:33:05.080 Violent left-wing extremists did this.
00:33:08.960 They assassinated a good, innocent man.
00:33:13.120 And this cancerous ideology will be stopped.
00:33:15.740 It's as simple as that.
00:33:19.760 I want to bring on, I want to bring on State Senator Jay Kaufman.
00:33:26.220 He's here from Arizona.
00:33:28.080 He's also, of course, a huge part of the Turning Point family.
00:33:32.540 Senator, how are you?
00:33:34.260 I'm doing, I'm doing well.
00:33:35.760 For the, considering all things, I'm doing okay right now.
00:33:39.180 Of course.
00:33:41.180 I just want to say thank you for your efforts and your words at the Kennedy Center Vigil last night.
00:33:47.720 Thank you.
00:33:48.540 Yeah, that was an incredible God-filled opportunity last night.
00:33:52.220 I mean, not just, you know, how he spoke through me, but how every person that spoke, you know,
00:33:58.520 I was amazed because they all had one consistent refrain, Jack.
00:34:02.040 And that was that Charlie lived to honor Jesus in all that he did.
00:34:06.340 And, you know, if that's the biggest takeaway, Charlie wanted that to be the biggest takeaway from his life.
00:34:13.160 But if that's the biggest takeaway from last night, I think that is the best thing we could have done to honor his life and his legacy.
00:34:19.100 Because what we see is that his impact, it stretched far beyond just college campuses.
00:34:24.560 You know, from South Korea to London, we've had millions of people pouring out to honor Charlie Kirk
00:34:31.180 because he was slain at the hands of a monster, an assassin's bullet.
00:34:37.400 And last night, we saw the highest echelons of American government, of world leadership turn out.
00:34:43.820 We had over 85 members of Congress.
00:34:46.460 We had about 25 to 30 senior administration officials there in the room.
00:34:51.900 The Speaker of the House was there, gave a beautiful, you know, tribute to him.
00:34:57.000 Tulsi Gabbard, DNI, everyone is willing to double and triple down on Charlie's vision for America,
00:35:03.780 which thankfully is shared by MAGA, is shared by President Trump, and is definitely shared by Vice President J.D. Vance.
00:35:11.280 And that's we want to build a greater, better America.
00:35:15.300 We want to unite us and unify this country.
00:35:18.260 We do not want to fall to the level of the party of death and division and destruction that is the Democratic Party today.
00:35:28.140 I mean, you talked about the vile filth that is online.
00:35:31.900 Blue Sky has been an absolute cesspool ever since.
00:35:35.720 You know, I remember the days when Parler, I'm old enough to remember when Parler was taken offline,
00:35:40.340 for 0.1% of the posts on the platform being considered vile and hateful.
00:35:48.480 Yet Blue Sky is run amok with celebrations of Charlie's demise, and yet nothing happens.
00:35:56.400 It tells you where Silicon Valley still stands at its core,
00:36:00.080 and we've got to make sure that we reorient the conversation in a direction that Charlie would have liked.
00:36:06.500 And that means open, honest, and free exchange of ideas, no matter who you are, no matter what you think.
00:36:14.080 We want to be able to talk through it, and then we're going to go our separate ways,
00:36:18.180 and everybody gets to go home to their families at the end of the night.
00:36:22.200 Look, it's as simple as that.
00:36:23.620 And beyond, because I see big names on the left, YouTubers and others saying,
00:36:33.580 oh, it wasn't a leftist, or oh, Charlie deserved it, and all this.
00:36:37.320 I'm done.
00:36:38.180 I'm so done playing these games.
00:36:40.280 This was your side that did this.
00:36:43.500 There is a grieving widow.
00:36:45.900 She stood right here, right here, delivering that speech.
00:36:51.140 And I'm done playing the game.
00:36:53.140 I'm done this little dance, this little happy, funny little dance that they want you to do
00:36:58.460 when you have a job like this.
00:37:00.100 I'm not playing that game anymore.
00:37:01.600 No.
00:37:02.480 No, I'm absolutely not playing that game anymore.
00:37:04.380 It has to stop.
00:37:05.280 It simply has to stop.
00:37:06.320 If people want to go back and just have the debates, I'm all for it.
00:37:09.180 Please.
00:37:10.220 That's what Charlie stood for, right?
00:37:12.720 Charlie stood for that, and he stood for prayer.
00:37:14.660 And he always said, he said, come to church, whether or not.
00:37:18.060 And they were beautiful.
00:37:18.840 Church were packed like Easter Sunday.
00:37:20.600 Yesterday, he would say, come to church.
00:37:21.780 I don't care what your politics are.
00:37:22.720 Just go to church.
00:37:23.600 Just go to church.
00:37:24.560 Meet Jesus.
00:37:25.220 He cared about that way more than any politics.
00:37:27.440 Way more.
00:37:28.960 And what did they do?
00:37:30.000 They turned him into a Christian martyr.
00:37:32.900 Jake, I know you've got to run.
00:37:34.480 We've got, we're running out of time in the segment.
00:37:37.140 Where can people go to follow you and see everything you're up to?
00:37:39.320 So you can follow me on X, at Jake Hoffman, AZ, on X.
00:37:47.480 Thank you, Jake.
00:37:48.280 Appreciate it.
00:37:48.960 Be right back.
00:37:49.660 Jack Posobiec, Phoenix, Arizona, from the Charlie Kerr Studio.
00:37:53.160 Jack is a great guy.
00:38:04.580 He's written that fantastic book.
00:38:06.340 Everybody's talking about it.
00:38:07.580 Go get it.
00:38:08.680 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
00:38:12.680 And we're going to turn it around and make our country cry to get to him.
00:38:15.960 Amen.
00:38:16.500 This is you.
00:38:20.720 This is your sister, your wife, your daughter.
00:38:24.740 But this right here is you.
00:38:28.700 This is your sister, your wife, your daughter.
00:38:34.540 This is you.
00:38:36.860 This is your sister, your wife, your daughter.
00:38:42.640 But this is you.
00:38:43.920 And this is their reaction when you are killed.
00:38:51.680 This is the joy they feel when your sister is raped,
00:38:58.000 when your children are castrated, brainwashed to hate you.
00:39:06.120 This is their ecstasy when the floor of the subway car
00:39:12.240 is awash in your blood.
00:39:15.980 This is you.
00:39:18.080 Make no mistake, that is a symbol that is you.
00:39:23.360 But this won't last long.
00:39:26.060 They can't help themselves because they're so ugly and so low
00:39:32.740 that the only joy they can experience,
00:39:35.920 the only good that they can envision
00:39:38.320 is to take something beautiful or innocent down to their level.
00:39:45.140 And when they can't do it,
00:39:47.000 the next best thing is blood.
00:39:50.500 I want to dedicate this next one
00:39:52.520 to an absolute piece of shit of a human being.
00:39:56.860 The pronouns was, were.
00:40:09.180 Because if you touch shit, you will get banged.
00:40:15.160 Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk, a piece of shit.
00:40:17.680 All right, Jack Sobek, we're back here in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:40:29.320 And I know we had to bleep a lot in that last clip.
00:40:32.320 That was Bob Villain.
00:40:34.860 And he was saying horrific things,
00:40:40.260 cheering on the death and assassination
00:40:43.300 of Charlie Kirk, my friend.
00:40:48.060 And
00:40:48.520 the people were cheering.
00:40:53.040 An entire concert hall for people cheering.
00:40:56.280 I want to bring on now someone who was in the fight with us
00:40:59.100 deep in the trenches with us in 2024.
00:41:03.740 And that man's name is Cliff Maloney.
00:41:06.000 Cliff, welcome on the show.
00:41:08.140 Thanks for having me, Jack.
00:41:10.580 How are you holding up, brother?
00:41:11.540 It's been rough, man.
00:41:13.760 I got to tell you, you know, sometimes going through all this,
00:41:17.360 we're almost to, what, a week?
00:41:19.800 You know, I don't know if it's quite hit me yet.
00:41:22.540 Seeing Erica's speech, you know, getting the chance to talk with Tyler,
00:41:26.720 seeing Andrew on TV.
00:41:28.040 But I got to say something to your listeners out there.
00:41:31.580 Watching your CNN speech, or your interview, I should say,
00:41:36.240 it hit real hard, man.
00:41:39.260 When they asked you, you know, is this war?
00:41:42.060 And you responded with,
00:41:44.120 my friend Charlie's in a box.
00:41:48.020 That was tough.
00:41:49.900 And I don't say that to bring about hyperbole or sensationalize it.
00:41:54.200 But Jack, you know, you as a friend,
00:41:56.020 to hear you say that about a mutual friend and Charlie,
00:41:59.800 and then to have to explain to her, this was not an accident.
00:42:02.700 He was not in some sort of car crash.
00:42:04.420 This was a targeted, specific attack to take out a good friend of ours
00:42:10.900 because they disagreed with his politics
00:42:13.540 and they could not defeat him
00:42:15.180 when it came to having conversations or winning an argument.
00:42:19.220 You know, I just thought it was wild.
00:42:20.560 So I just want to thank you for going on there.
00:42:22.980 I mean, look, you compare that to the great memories we've had over the last,
00:42:27.660 you know, not just a couple of years,
00:42:28.760 but even just the past couple of months,
00:42:30.880 winning the election November 5th,
00:42:32.500 us getting the call with Pennsylvania.
00:42:34.900 I mean, I'm trying to focus on some of the positives, right?
00:42:37.700 You remember election night
00:42:38.860 where me and you were battling with Charlie and saying,
00:42:40.980 Charlie, we got to call Pennsylvania.
00:42:42.720 We got the votes.
00:42:44.140 And Charlie was having his PTSD from 2020 of calling it too early.
00:42:48.480 Those are the things I want to remember him by.
00:42:50.620 You know, those happy moments of him being so deep in this fight
00:42:55.100 and not just being in the fight,
00:42:57.640 but us coming together and winning in 24.
00:43:00.400 My big message to everybody out there,
00:43:02.020 we are just getting started.
00:43:04.060 We are at the next level.
00:43:05.800 We are pushing.
00:43:07.000 We've got everybody amped up,
00:43:08.520 obviously feeling horrific about the tragedy,
00:43:11.360 but we're not going to give the other side what they want.
00:43:13.900 We are not going to stand down.
00:43:15.540 We are going to double down
00:43:16.680 and we are going to defeat these radical lefties,
00:43:19.900 these communists.
00:43:21.260 And we do that by winning election after election,
00:43:25.180 throwing it back in their face,
00:43:26.540 pulling the normies to our side
00:43:28.280 because they don't know what they've unleashed
00:43:30.560 with this horrific,
00:43:32.740 heinous act.
00:43:35.500 I want to make something very clear
00:43:39.280 that I don't know if people realize this.
00:43:41.900 So the shot where Charlie is,
00:43:52.260 and Cliff, you and I were on this,
00:43:53.900 this, you know, sort of hyper viral moment
00:43:58.660 where we make the Pennsylvania call
00:44:01.980 and you said it.
00:44:02.940 And then Erica runs in the room here
00:44:07.380 in this very studio right here.
00:44:10.240 And she runs in and she's,
00:44:11.880 she's hugging Charlie
00:44:12.840 and he's got his head in his hands
00:44:15.560 and he's praising God.
00:44:19.680 That's the very same spot on earth
00:44:23.360 where Erica was standing,
00:44:26.620 delivering the memorial speech to her husband.
00:44:31.240 That's the very same spot.
00:44:36.700 So from the happiest moment
00:44:38.480 to the hardest moment.
00:44:42.560 And it was in the same spot.
00:44:47.600 And it didn't happen by accident.
00:44:49.860 It was no accident.
00:44:51.540 It was done deliberately as an act of evil.
00:44:54.960 Go ahead.
00:44:55.780 One comment that I think,
00:44:57.640 I'd never put that together
00:44:58.840 until you just said it.
00:45:00.060 And that is when you and Charlie
00:45:01.620 both agreed in harmony on election night,
00:45:04.140 it's all God.
00:45:05.600 You know, listen,
00:45:06.080 I'm not the most devout Christian, right?
00:45:08.000 I've had my moments.
00:45:08.980 But when I look back at that,
00:45:10.600 that was a moment
00:45:11.240 where I really felt at peace with God,
00:45:13.380 with Jesus Christ as my savior,
00:45:15.420 to see two of the guys I trust the most
00:45:17.360 after we announced this huge win,
00:45:19.080 after years of sacrifice
00:45:21.300 and doing the work,
00:45:22.660 for you guys to both turn to each other
00:45:24.360 and agree, it's all God.
00:45:26.200 And then to see what has happened
00:45:27.940 since this tragedy
00:45:29.020 of so many people turning to the church,
00:45:31.800 turning to God,
00:45:32.980 atheists proclaiming
00:45:33.900 they're now going back to church.
00:45:35.480 Friends that I know
00:45:36.480 that have just been non-practicing,
00:45:38.260 whether Protestant or Catholic,
00:45:40.020 who now say,
00:45:40.700 you know what,
00:45:41.020 I'm going to pick up my Bible again.
00:45:43.640 I've never talked about religion
00:45:45.520 on television.
00:45:46.500 And I'm here telling you
00:45:47.560 that I think we are seeing something
00:45:49.100 with Charlie now being a Christian martyr.
00:45:51.400 But to think about that night,
00:45:53.540 you're right,
00:45:53.960 we were in the same spot,
00:45:55.340 calling the election
00:45:56.700 where we had that moment,
00:45:57.960 saying it's all God,
00:45:59.500 and Erica delivering
00:46:00.620 that statement
00:46:02.060 that was heard around the world.
00:46:03.880 I really appreciate you
00:46:04.760 putting those two together
00:46:05.580 because I had not thought about that.
00:46:07.220 And there's got to be
00:46:07.960 some deep meaning there.
00:46:10.940 It's something,
00:46:13.920 look, we can't know it.
00:46:16.040 God knows it.
00:46:17.280 God above knows it.
00:46:18.380 Christ the King knows it,
00:46:21.560 and that's where Charlie's at right now.
00:46:23.080 He's with the King,
00:46:24.300 and he's on another mission.
00:46:27.740 He's on another level.
00:46:28.620 He's on another mission.
00:46:31.580 But it did happen, right?
00:46:33.700 This was their response.
00:46:35.040 That's why they did this to Charlie,
00:46:37.500 because Charlie beat them.
00:46:39.540 He beat them at the election box.
00:46:41.600 He beat them in debates.
00:46:43.220 He beat them on campus.
00:46:44.980 And the way they responded
00:46:48.700 was with a bullet
00:46:49.960 because that was the only thing
00:46:52.520 they had left.
00:46:54.620 Hey, fascist catch
00:46:56.120 written on the casing.
00:46:59.440 People need to wake up.
00:47:01.380 People need to wake up.
00:47:02.500 You need to wake up.
00:47:03.480 You all out there
00:47:04.680 need to wake up.
00:47:08.280 Because I'm upset
00:47:10.660 about what happened,
00:47:11.840 but I don't want to sit around
00:47:13.040 feeling sorry, all right?
00:47:14.980 You need to lock in.
00:47:18.880 Everybody needs to lock in.
00:47:21.000 J.D. Vance is locked in.
00:47:22.400 Cliff Maloney is locked in.
00:47:24.480 Are you locked in?
00:47:25.640 Because it's time.
00:47:27.020 Cliff, give your coordinates.
00:47:29.460 The P.A. Chase,
00:47:31.240 that's where you guys
00:47:32.160 can check us out,
00:47:32.920 pachase.com.
00:47:34.260 I'm going to hold on
00:47:35.220 any pitch here, Jack,
00:47:36.280 and just say, look,
00:47:37.120 we are doubling down.
00:47:38.460 Pennsylvania is the red wall.
00:47:40.320 Follow us online.
00:47:41.200 You can check me out
00:47:42.060 on x at Maloney.
00:47:43.680 This is all for Charlie.
00:47:45.140 And those are the two words
00:47:46.040 I'll end with to you, Jack.
00:47:47.360 For Charlie,
00:47:48.440 that's why we fight.
00:47:51.540 Don't back down.
00:47:53.200 Double down.
00:47:54.480 It's time to lock in.
00:47:57.120 Ladies and gentlemen,
00:47:57.800 you have my permission
00:47:58.480 to lay short.
00:47:58.960 We'll see you next time.
00:48:01.800 Bye.
00:48:02.300 Bye.
00:48:02.880 Bye.
00:48:03.820 Bye.
00:48:03.960 Bye.
00:48:04.580 Bye.
00:48:07.480 Bye.