Jack Posobiec is on location in Bakersfield, California talking with Steve Hilton about his potential run for Governor of California in the mid-decade. The U.S. has a new plan to try and end the Ukraine crisis, a bipartisan bill to force the release of Epstein documents, $270 billion in deals between dozens of companies, and much more.
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00:12:56.920You look at where we were 10 years ago.
00:12:58.520And everyone thought going into the, you know, so 2015, going into 2016, everyone, you know, all the smart people, the smart money knew that the 2016 campaign would be Hillary Clinton versus Jeb Bush.
00:13:13.520That was going to be, you know, that was your, your, that was, it was a fait accompli.
00:13:18.580And probably, and I said this the other day, probably Hillary was going to seem rolling.
00:13:21.940And, and that would, you know, but then the Bushes would still sort of be around and they'd have a governorship.
00:13:27.660And he runs for Senate and you have a few different things like this.
00:13:31.380And then the, you know, their kids, the next generation, the grandchildren of George Bush Sr. start coming up.
00:13:37.180And yet Trump came in and the populist movement came in with him and just totally rearranged American politics and, and they're all still there.
00:13:48.560And yet prior to today and prior to looking at these images, I think that's why it was so startling because we just, they just don't have the influence they once did.
00:13:56.880And I wanted to bring this up, not only is 9-11, the Iraq war, the war on terror, the financial crisis, the bailouts, that was at the very tail end of Bush.
00:14:08.840And I would argue that both of those combined have had the most profound impact on all of our politics today.
00:14:16.380Well, I'm glad we don't even talk about the people who did it.
00:14:18.860No, exactly. And it was actually the economic aspect of that was the real moment, if you like, the sort of wake up for me around the Uniparty and everything that they represented.
00:14:30.460I remember really clearly, because it's almost like, you remember President Trump at Butler and he talks about the chart that saved his life when he turned his head.
00:14:39.400There's one chart that really kind of woke me up in terms of my orientation towards the populist movement, which was, I wrote a book in 2015 called More Human, Designing a World Where People Come First.
00:14:51.640I did the update for early 2016 for the U.S. edition.
00:14:54.680And in the chapter about economics, one of the chapters about poverty and so on, I was getting U.S. data and I saw this chart and it showed the income, the earnings of the 80% of the population, roughly.
00:15:11.320They call it non-managerial, non-supervisory workers, regular working people.
00:15:17.080The chart of their earnings after inflation since the 70s plotted against corporate earnings and corporate profits and the stock market.
00:15:26.580It was absolutely stunning. Earnings for most Americans after inflation, completely flat since 1974.
00:15:34.760Flat. And everything else up like a hockey stick for the top 20% and for corporate earnings and profits.
00:15:40.700And that was the moment I thought, it's totally failed.
00:15:43.560There's a phrase that I've heard to describe this and they call it, I wish I could claim credit, it's not, they call it the silent recession.
00:16:19.280Because if you're already in the real estate market, if you're already in the stock market, life seems great because you're above that line.
00:16:30.560And that's why this, you know, the Trump era transformation is just so profound and the reorientation of the Republican Party to become the working class party, the majority representing the majority of regular workers' interests.
00:16:44.860It's just amazing, that transformation.
00:16:47.240I remember at the beginning of that, it really coincided with when I started hosting my show on Fox News, The Next Revolution.
00:16:52.400I remember saying at that time, with Trump at the helm, the Republican Party has the opportunity to become a multiracial working class coalition, an opportunity.
00:17:03.540Well, that's completely been delivered.
00:17:05.440It's a massive transformation, a historic transformation.
00:17:08.360And the other thing that's so satisfying about it for those of us who supported the president right from the beginning is if you look at the data, and it's too soon for this administration, you look at the data towards the end of the first Trump administration, that whole pattern was reversed.
00:17:24.820And the people whose earnings rose fastest percentage-wise during the first Trump administration, the bottom 20% of workers.
00:17:32.820They did, for the first time in half a century, their position improved more rapidly than anyone else in the income scale.
00:17:40.580And I've said this, it's funny, I was talking to Producer Angelo here on the show today, and I said, you can't understand the MAGA movement if you don't understand the importance of what they call the B-tier and C-tier cities in America.
00:17:55.660So I'm from Pennsylvania, so my B-tier, this would be like your Western Pennsylvania, Appalachia, J.D. Vance territory, these areas.
00:18:05.060They don't necessarily have a professional football team, or the Steelers are there.
00:18:10.500But it's areas that are sort of overlooked, the flyover country, forgotten America.
00:18:16.100And this idea that there's so many communities out there that have just been completely overlooked, President Trump calls them the forgotten man, forgotten woman, and those people are struggling.
00:18:28.460They're struggling so much, and then you've got Gen Z, and this was something that my friend and yours, Charlie Kirk, spoke out against over and over and over and said,
00:18:38.660You know, you guys think there's this generational warfare that's going on right now because they feel like they are being oppressed, that they're being pushed down by so many of these pressures.
00:18:49.920I don't think, and just to put it all back, and we're going to a break here in a second, but you're right, though.
00:18:56.160All of that was predicated on the Bush bailouts.
00:18:59.420So, we would have had no populist revolution, or at least it wouldn't have caught on the way that it did if we didn't have the Bush bailouts of 2008, the financial crisis, the response to it, where it's just true.
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00:20:54.360And you're going to – and you're going to – Gavin Newsom, of course, he's here in California, and somehow he's presided over all of this, and he wants to use this to try to launch a presidential campaign.
00:21:08.700And you see this – now, I know Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania.
00:21:13.180He wants to run for president as well.
00:21:15.740And yet he has a complete track record of failure.
00:21:17.720I see the same thing with Gavin Newsom.
00:21:20.240Is it possible for him to take this message and just overlook the mess of California to a national scale, or are you going to be able to stop him?
00:21:30.800Well, my plan is to be the governor, not only cleaning up the mess in California that he left behind and thereby improving the lives of Californians, but in the process showing the rest of the country the scale of the mess so they can avoid the calamity of bringing that nationwide.
00:21:48.720I mean, if you look at the failure in California, it is total and complete on every single front.
00:21:54.000It's actually kind of genius the way he's been able to fail and the Democrat regime.
00:21:59.440They've had one party rule now here for over 15 years.
00:22:34.540Right now, California has the highest unemployment rate in America, the highest poverty rate, the highest costs for gas, electric, water, insurance, rent, homes, everything to do with housing.
00:22:48.060Chief Executive Magazine does an annual survey of the states in terms of which is better or worse to do business.
00:22:53.700California, for the last 10 years, worst out of all states, 50th out of 50.
00:22:59.70050th out of 50 for affordability, 50th out of 50, U.S. News & World Report does a ranking for opportunity.
00:24:42.560And, of course, it affects everything else because health care costs, the housing crisis, the schools where you have – I mean, I'm on the road the whole time.
00:24:51.420You go to communities where the parents are in despair because the kids trying to learn at school, you have so many languages.
00:25:03.980And yet he seems to think he could just ignore all that and run for president.
00:25:08.980And so far, especially on the left, the media are just letting him get away with it because they think he's, you know, a successful political showman.
00:25:22.080And I think it's incredibly important that all of us really know the record, make sure the whole country understands just what a disaster he has been.
00:25:30.420And the core of it is that he's just not interested in governing, not interested, and no aptitude for governing.
00:25:39.260And you see this with – this is what you get from one-party rule.
00:25:42.760It throws up these kind of machine politicians whose only skill is navigating the political system.
00:25:50.760And so they just – they think that saying something is the same as doing it.
00:25:55.060For example, nearly a year ago now, after the L.A. wildfires, by the way, the disaster caused by their policies, the fire we now know started by an arsonist, but the fact that it was such a disaster, entirely due to their ideology and incompetence, the fact that they didn't clear the brush, those hillsides, they didn't have proper – you know, the empty reservoir, all those things we know.
00:26:16.340But at the time, Gavin Newsom stood there in the smoldering remains of the Palisades and said, we're going to have a Marshall Plan.
00:26:24.120This is a quote, a Marshall Plan to rebuild.
00:26:47.880So she does this press conference and she puts a social media post that says, I have just signed an executive order streamlining permitting to rebuild L.A.
00:26:57.420And I remember thinking, well, that's good.
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00:41:09.480How about breaking through the gate at Mar-a-Lago with 30 FBI agents and going through Melania's drawers and going through Barron's closet and taking my father's medical records and taking, you know, protected under HIPAA and taking his attorney-client documents?
00:41:27.280How about having Hillary Clinton literally fund a dirty dossier, which is totally lies, it's all slanderous, to try and affect her political opponent?
00:41:35.900Or how about making up the lie that we had secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower that were communicating with the Kremlin?
00:41:42.500The FBI knew 100% that it was not true.
00:42:23.000Was that their constitutional duty to take a Republican nominee off of a ballot in a state, not allow their people to speak?
00:42:30.420How about Maine when they did the exact same thing?
00:42:32.120How about censoring my father, you know, taking away his First Amendment right, taking him off of YouTube and Twitter and Instagram and Facebook, right?
00:42:41.000I mean, literally, we had to create Truth Social in order to have any kind of voice.
00:42:46.200You know, how about the gag orders from every single one of these corrupt judges?
00:42:53.200And now you have them calling for the, I mean, to me, and I say this as I was in the Navy, I was an intelligence officer in the intelligence community.
00:43:02.800I've never heard this kind of language from senators directly speaking to members of the military and members of the intelligence community.
00:43:11.600Yeah, I mean, it's totally reckless and disgusting, but it's part of how they behave.
00:43:16.760And what's amazing, just listening to Eric there, the way you lay it all out, it shows why your book is so necessary.
00:43:22.940Because just the scale of it and the endless nature of it on and on and on in so many different ways, it's easy to forget, not least because in the second administration, so much is being accomplished on a policy front.
00:43:38.060And we just focused on that all the time.
00:43:39.880But just looking at what they've done, the question to Eric is, do you feel that we, you know, we're moving towards real accountability for all of that which happened to you and your family?
00:43:51.960Steve, I think that's why they're petrified.
00:43:54.220And let's, by the way, for all the, for all the, you know, service members who are, who are petrified, right?
00:43:59.300I mean, isn't it kind of ironic that under Joe Biden, it was the worst recruitment.
00:44:03.600I mean, they couldn't fill any of their quotas.
00:44:05.120They were, you know, not only could they not fill their quotas, but they were actually removing all the standards because it was the only way that they could get people into the United States military.
00:44:12.300Yet, you know, under my father and Pete's headset, isn't it really amazing that you have the greatest military recruitment in the history of the country?
00:44:20.260But obviously you have the greatest military recruitment in the history of the country.
00:44:23.560You did a total 180 change in, what, a period of seven months?
00:44:27.480But you only have the greatest military recruitment in the history of our nation because people are petrified of this.
00:44:33.120You know what they're not petrified of?
00:44:34.900They have a commander in chief who will actually act.
00:44:37.200They have a commander in chief who will, you know, stand behind them, not do what Barack Obama did, which prosecute every single person who took out a terrorist, right, and court-martial them.
00:44:46.220I can't tell you how many of my friends were cart-martialed for doing, you know, their jobs.
00:44:51.600Yet my father stands behind all these people.
00:44:53.300And don't you think that the men and women in the United States military and our intelligence agencies wants a world where there are no wars?
00:45:00.700How many wars has my father stopped at this point?
00:45:03.880I mean, under my father's first term, they had fighter planes that couldn't even take off.
00:45:08.500Pretty much the first thing that they told him when he went into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue was, sir, don't start any conflicts because we are out of ammunition.
00:45:15.880The United States of America is out of ammunition.
00:45:17.960And yet, you know, all of these service members are so petrified to have, you know, Donald Trump as commander in chief.
00:45:28.520It's so dangerous because when you have a system like this, when you have a system that's become so adversarial that the politics don't end at the ballot box when they continue into the jury box.
00:45:42.980And as I've said, and we've all, you know, experienced this recently with the loss of our friend, you get the jury box and then you get the bullet box.
00:47:50.620And I think, Steve, you probably know New York Times did not exactly want to give me the number one book in the context of the number one book of the year.