Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 21, 2025


It's Treason Season - No Traitors Allowed


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

190.48694

Word Count

9,004

Sentence Count

715

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

Pres. Trump is facing outrage from Democrats after demanding the arrest of a half-dozen Democratic lawmakers for posting a video encouraging members of the military to disobey orders from President Trump. Former Harvard President Lawrence Summers will take a break from teaching at the prestigious university after his continued relationship with Epstein was exposed. Ambassador Mike Huckabee had a meeting with Jonathan Pollard, a former U.S. citizen who was convicted and spent three decades in jail for selling state secrets to Israel.


Transcript

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00:00:47.360 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:00:50.420 Christ is king.
00:00:51.960 President Trump facing outrage from Democrats tonight after demanding the arrest of a half-dozen Democratic lawmakers,
00:00:58.280 suggesting they be executed for posting this video.
00:01:02.240 We want to speak directly to members of the military.
00:01:04.880 Where six Democrats, all with national security backgrounds,
00:01:08.600 urge members of the military to disobey any illegal orders from President Trump.
00:01:13.620 No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution.
00:01:18.040 Referring to the video, President Trump writing,
00:01:20.100 seditious behavior from traitors, lock them up, and seditious behavior punishable by death.
00:01:26.720 Later reposting a comment in which someone wrote, quote, hang them, George Washington would.
00:01:32.120 Democrats condemning the comments, calling for extra security for the members involved.
00:01:36.580 Just to be clear, does the president want to execute members of Congress?
00:01:40.800 No, let's be clear about what the president is responding to,
00:01:45.560 because many in this room want to talk about the president's response,
00:01:49.200 but not what brought the president to responding in this way.
00:01:53.420 You have sitting members of the United States Congress
00:01:57.840 who conspired together to orchestrate a video message to members of the United States military,
00:02:04.800 to active duty service members, to members of the national security apparatus,
00:02:10.220 encouraging them to defy the president's lawful orders.
00:02:14.840 That is a very, very dangerous message, and it perhaps is punishable by law.
00:02:20.780 I'm not a lawyer.
00:02:21.760 I'll leave that to the Department of Justice and the Department of War to decide.
00:02:24.720 President Trump agrees to release the Epstein files.
00:02:28.040 He says he has signed the bill compelling the Justice Department
00:02:31.100 to release its records about the sex offender.
00:02:33.880 Also breaking here at 11, former Harvard President Lawrence Summers
00:02:38.020 will take a break from teaching at the prestigious university
00:02:41.160 after his continued relationship with Epstein was exposed.
00:02:45.320 Ambassador Mike Huckabee had a meeting with Jonathan Pollard,
00:02:48.980 a former U.S. citizen who was convicted and spent three decades in jail
00:02:53.280 for selling state secrets to Israel.
00:02:55.320 Did the White House know that that meeting was going to happen?
00:02:58.680 Does the administration condone it?
00:03:00.680 The White House was not aware of that meeting.
00:03:02.280 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to today's edition of Human Events Daily.
00:03:05.880 We're here live from Washington, D.C.
00:03:08.540 Today is November 21st, 2025, Anno Domini.
00:03:12.920 Well, ladies and gentlemen, apparently it's treason season.
00:03:17.800 What do I mean by that?
00:03:18.920 I mean, we have this shocking report that U.S. Ambassador Mike Huckabee had a sit-down meeting
00:03:27.080 with a convicted traitor to our nation, Jonathan Pollard,
00:03:33.260 and someone who stole U.S. classified information and sold it, sold it to Israel,
00:03:42.300 but also attempted to sell it to Pakistan and even South Africa at the time.
00:03:48.480 This man is a traitor.
00:03:50.040 This man stole one million classified U.S. documents.
00:03:54.880 And on a personal note, he's someone that I've always particularly reviled
00:04:01.080 because he was a member, a civilian member, of Navy intelligence.
00:04:06.980 And as a prior Navy intelligence officer myself,
00:04:09.820 Jonathan Pollard is someone that we've always looked down upon with extreme disdain.
00:04:15.300 This is not someone that you want ever to associate with.
00:04:19.180 This is not someone who has the best interests of the United States,
00:04:23.660 of our allies, of our citizens, of our people, of our men, women, and children in mind.
00:04:31.580 He's not someone that we should ever be cavorting with.
00:04:36.180 He was sentenced to life in prison.
00:04:38.220 This prison sentence was commuted.
00:04:40.460 He was then sent back to Israel.
00:04:43.100 So what's going on here?
00:04:44.340 See, this is the problem with this huge disconnect that's going on right now with Israel
00:04:50.480 when you take Millennials, Gen Z, Gen X, and the baby boomers.
00:04:55.820 And there are people who think that just because he sold these secrets,
00:05:01.480 our intelligence secrets, our classified documents to Israel,
00:05:06.960 that he should somehow get a pass.
00:05:08.760 No, that's not how that works.
00:05:10.240 Because if you go back and actually look at what happened,
00:05:12.880 those documents partially were then given,
00:05:16.640 or the information was then partially given,
00:05:18.660 to the Soviet Union during the Cold War,
00:05:22.080 to the godless communists in Moscow.
00:05:25.700 So walk me through the process here.
00:05:28.280 Walk me through the process.
00:05:30.480 Why it is that a traitor, not just a spy,
00:05:33.320 no, no, no, no, no, that's not enough.
00:05:35.180 A traitor to our nation gets to have a sit-down meeting,
00:05:38.860 which apparently included, and there's elements of this,
00:05:42.440 where they were trashing Trump, or at least he was trashing Trump.
00:05:45.820 He was making fun of him.
00:05:47.120 This is someone that's made numerous anti-Trump statements in the past.
00:05:50.360 Talk about Pollard here.
00:05:51.940 And look, Mike Huckabee is somebody that I like a lot,
00:05:56.420 someone that I have a lot of respect for.
00:05:58.280 Absolutely, as a governor.
00:06:01.880 I was a huge fan of his going back to 2008, even,
00:06:04.860 when he was running for president.
00:06:05.900 I thought he was a fun candidate.
00:06:08.000 I don't know what's going on here, but I do know this.
00:06:11.060 The American people deserve an answer.
00:06:16.280 Is he still in Tel Aviv?
00:06:17.900 Is he still in Jerusalem?
00:06:19.360 Has he stayed in Israel?
00:06:20.840 Has he not been called back to Washington, D.C.
00:06:22.980 to explain what it is exactly that was going on?
00:06:25.240 Did he have approval from the White House to do this?
00:06:29.700 Did he have approval or not?
00:06:32.140 You can't sit down with traitors.
00:06:35.160 You can't get to pick and choose
00:06:37.260 just because you have a personal opinion on the matter
00:06:40.360 when you're a U.S. diplomat.
00:06:42.520 That's not how it works.
00:06:44.320 Not at all.
00:06:45.600 There's no rogue diplomacy.
00:06:47.880 And this is another example of the optics disaster
00:06:51.480 that has gone on when it comes to whether or not
00:06:55.080 this country and this administration
00:06:56.900 are truly America first.
00:07:00.120 Do you put America first
00:07:01.480 or do you put other nations first?
00:07:04.340 Jonathan Pollard is a traitor.
00:07:06.060 He's a convicted criminal.
00:07:08.160 And I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen,
00:07:10.280 but when treason season begins,
00:07:12.980 we're going to have to call it out.
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00:08:51.380 So I'm checking now.
00:08:53.040 Reuters has up the story
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00:08:58.920 You must be a patriot.
00:09:00.860 You must support America.
00:09:03.460 You must put America first.
00:09:05.580 The White House was unaware
00:09:07.040 that the U.S. ambassador to Israel
00:09:09.260 met with a convicted spy,
00:09:11.240 a convicted traitor.
00:09:12.620 Jonathan Pollard,
00:09:13.840 the former U.S. Navy intelligence analyst
00:09:16.300 who spent three decades in prison
00:09:18.520 spying for Israel.
00:09:20.800 They kept this meeting
00:09:22.260 off of Ambassador Huckabee's official schedule.
00:09:25.040 It cost U.S. officials by surprise.
00:09:28.100 They had no advanced knowledge of this encounter.
00:09:32.560 And Pollard is the one who comes out.
00:09:35.240 He talks about it.
00:09:36.360 They talk about all this stuff.
00:09:38.220 It alarmed members of the U.S. intelligence services.
00:09:40.840 Obviously, U.S. officials are not supposed
00:09:43.220 to be meeting with convicted spies
00:09:44.680 and certainly not with convicted traitors.
00:09:47.720 And as more of this comes out,
00:09:49.280 I wanted to turn now,
00:09:50.600 for the very first time in studio,
00:09:52.840 to Human Events opinion editor,
00:09:54.560 Kenny Cody.
00:09:55.000 What's up, Kenny?
00:09:55.580 Hey, Jack.
00:09:56.060 How are you, man?
00:09:56.540 Welcome to the studio.
00:09:57.300 Glad to be here.
00:09:58.020 You're in D.C.
00:09:59.460 You're conducting a series of meetings.
00:10:01.460 Some on the record,
00:10:02.780 not on the record.
00:10:03.360 That's right.
00:10:03.600 I have to ask you, though, Kenny Cody,
00:10:04.940 as you're here in Washington, D.C.,
00:10:07.400 have you met with any convicted traitors
00:10:09.420 to our nation?
00:10:10.180 Not to my knowledge.
00:10:11.220 Not to your knowledge, yeah.
00:10:12.000 Not to my knowledge.
00:10:12.640 Sorry, so no Democrats.
00:10:13.880 No Democrats at all.
00:10:14.740 No Democrats, right, right, right.
00:10:15.940 Not Jim Comey?
00:10:16.720 No, not Jim Comey.
00:10:17.340 No, not Jim Comey.
00:10:18.080 All right, okay, good.
00:10:18.920 So keeping him clean over here, folks.
00:10:20.640 Keeping him straight and narrow.
00:10:22.140 But, Kenny, you're here.
00:10:24.880 Walk me through the perception
00:10:27.580 of the U.S.-Israel relationship among Gen Z
00:10:32.000 because this has become a huge flashpoint politically.
00:10:35.320 It's something Charlie and I talked about a lot.
00:10:37.400 It's something that I know Charlie
00:10:38.960 was talking to the administration about.
00:10:41.120 And I really feel like this is going to be
00:10:43.800 one of those things that just sends
00:10:45.840 the absolute wrong message to young voters.
00:10:48.800 Yeah, and I think with any kind of ambassador,
00:10:51.740 any kind of conservative that prioritizes
00:10:53.720 any other country over America First relations,
00:10:56.300 it's not going to be something that Gen Z
00:10:57.600 kind of approves of.
00:10:59.360 Like, whether you're on the right
00:11:00.500 or you're on the left,
00:11:01.360 we don't want any kind of promotion
00:11:03.500 of any other country above America First interests.
00:11:06.040 Even if you're on the right,
00:11:07.440 like you're an American First conservative.
00:11:08.960 I know you are.
00:11:09.640 I know I am.
00:11:10.660 But even if you're on the left,
00:11:11.860 like, you know, unless you're, like,
00:11:13.420 advocating for, like, Palestine, Gaza, whatever,
00:11:16.260 like, you don't want to see America
00:11:18.400 prioritizing another country.
00:11:20.180 And especially meeting with somebody
00:11:21.600 who for 30 years and was convicted,
00:11:23.860 literally, for doing exactly that,
00:11:25.840 spying on the United States
00:11:26.880 on behalf of Israel, fill in the blank.
00:11:29.340 And I think that's the whole thing about the Gen Z.
00:11:31.460 Gen Z is not pro-Israel or anti-Israel.
00:11:34.020 They're not pro-Iraq.
00:11:35.120 They're not anti-Iraq.
00:11:36.340 They are pro-America.
00:11:37.640 They don't want to see our funds,
00:11:38.960 our interests going anywhere else
00:11:40.300 besides to the America First mindset.
00:11:42.340 And there's been this optics, I think,
00:11:45.820 situation, shall we say,
00:11:47.640 over the last maybe six months,
00:11:49.640 maybe seven months,
00:11:50.640 where a lot of people are saying,
00:11:52.340 hey, what's going on with Israel?
00:11:54.620 What's going on with this relationship?
00:11:56.520 Why do we, you know,
00:11:57.480 why are we seemingly getting involved
00:11:58.740 in wars with, you know,
00:12:00.380 at the behest of Israel?
00:12:01.520 And then there are people
00:12:02.880 who look at Jeffrey Epstein.
00:12:04.600 And they saw the Jeffrey Epstein situation.
00:12:06.780 And, you know, I'm talking about this at length.
00:12:09.440 And they can see his ties to Ehud Barak,
00:12:13.560 who was the former head of Israeli intelligence.
00:12:16.720 He was also an Israeli prime minister.
00:12:18.840 And whether, you know,
00:12:20.340 I'm not even going to get into the debate
00:12:21.800 of, you know, what exactly he was doing.
00:12:23.560 But optically, there are people in Gen Z
00:12:26.760 who look at that and say,
00:12:28.580 you see, you see, there it is, right?
00:12:30.540 That's the special treatment
00:12:32.240 that these guys get.
00:12:33.980 But we Americans,
00:12:35.420 we are always ones coming last.
00:12:37.860 Is that kind of the sense?
00:12:39.620 Without a doubt.
00:12:40.620 I mean, I think when you are having people
00:12:42.180 that are struggling to, you know,
00:12:43.560 afford to live
00:12:44.720 or have a nuclear family household,
00:12:46.700 they can't even afford to buy a house.
00:12:48.320 And all of a sudden,
00:12:49.220 these elites are getting pandered to.
00:12:51.360 They're getting funds.
00:12:52.320 They're getting all kinds of special treatment
00:12:54.260 like Jeffrey Epstein got by other countries.
00:12:56.920 And then America is prioritizing those countries
00:12:58.920 over their own homeland people's interests.
00:13:01.540 And I always got to give credit.
00:13:02.900 Prior to Trump's first administration,
00:13:05.580 Jeffrey Epstein wasn't meaningfully dealt with
00:13:07.520 by law enforcement at all in this country.
00:13:09.500 And so you got to give Trump credit.
00:13:11.260 His administration arrested him the first time.
00:13:14.400 And, you know, he died in prison.
00:13:16.140 Okay, again, not getting into it,
00:13:17.980 but we know, you know, we know the story.
00:13:20.280 But prior to that,
00:13:22.080 he has all these relationships
00:13:23.500 with the global elite.
00:13:25.620 He's tied in with everyone.
00:13:27.740 And for some reason,
00:13:29.080 he's just able to do this
00:13:30.740 without facing any legal consequences.
00:13:33.260 And that's the perception.
00:13:35.520 And, Kenny, you've written about this forever.
00:13:37.440 That's the perception that I think Trump ran against
00:13:40.360 in the first place.
00:13:41.620 Walk me through that.
00:13:42.640 It really is this sort of like elites
00:13:44.440 versus the people kind of dynamic.
00:13:46.580 Well, the definition of populism
00:13:48.000 is the people against elitism.
00:13:50.340 And that's in that entire mindset
00:13:51.820 is what got Trump elected,
00:13:52.960 both in the Republican primary in 2015,
00:13:54.820 the general election in 2016,
00:13:56.400 election was still for him in 2020,
00:13:57.900 and then again in 2024.
00:13:59.620 And I think you have seen over this first year,
00:14:01.600 it feels like Trump at this point
00:14:02.760 has been president for like three years,
00:14:04.460 and we're only about 11 months in
00:14:06.080 because of things that they have got done.
00:14:08.040 But I think the reason he got reelected this time,
00:14:10.540 there was a new revitalization
00:14:11.980 of the America First mindset in this country
00:14:14.020 because of the rejection of elites.
00:14:16.000 The reason Jeffrey Epstein is such a big topic
00:14:18.880 within the American political sphere
00:14:20.980 is because of the special treatment
00:14:22.460 he got from the elites that he hosted,
00:14:24.280 that he donated to,
00:14:25.680 and that he propped up like Bill Clinton,
00:14:27.520 like Hillary Clinton,
00:14:28.440 and seeing that there's elites.
00:14:30.000 Larry Summers from Harvard,
00:14:31.180 Reid Hoffman from LinkedIn and PayPal
00:14:33.140 and his Silicon Valley Titan.
00:14:34.820 Yes, and that elitist mindset
00:14:36.180 is what puts America last.
00:14:38.160 When you're prioritizing the elites,
00:14:39.940 when you're prioritizing other countries,
00:14:41.820 you're prioritizing other diplomats,
00:14:43.480 and then now prioritizing illegal convicted spies
00:14:47.000 within, for doing this promoting Israel
00:14:49.600 or promoting any other country over America.
00:14:52.620 That's the kind of mindset
00:14:53.840 that this country and our movement rejected.
00:14:55.760 You know what it is too,
00:14:56.500 and I think maybe there's a conflict of saying,
00:14:59.680 you say America first, right?
00:15:01.340 And I hear some people saying America only.
00:15:03.340 I don't think that's quite right either.
00:15:05.220 What I think you need is American people first.
00:15:10.120 Yes, yes.
00:15:10.680 You have to keep people on the focus
00:15:14.060 because if you don't do that,
00:15:15.540 then you could say,
00:15:16.320 you can insert, well,
00:15:17.160 American companies first.
00:15:18.360 Yes.
00:15:18.680 Or American banks first.
00:15:21.120 Or American whatever.
00:15:22.280 Politicians first.
00:15:23.060 Insert your thing.
00:15:24.600 No, no, no.
00:15:25.000 It's American people first.
00:15:26.200 Yes.
00:15:26.520 The American people have to come first.
00:15:28.860 Yes.
00:15:29.180 And that's opposed to the elites.
00:15:31.320 That's opposed to everything.
00:15:32.480 And I'm not,
00:15:33.200 and those guys who say America only,
00:15:34.680 I'm not against it,
00:15:35.500 but I'm saying,
00:15:36.120 I think it doesn't quite answer the question.
00:15:38.100 Right.
00:15:38.360 And we are answering,
00:15:39.600 as the American First Movement,
00:15:40.580 are answering to the middle class,
00:15:42.200 to the working class men and women of this country
00:15:44.160 that want to live in America,
00:15:46.500 want to be safe to live in America,
00:15:48.380 be able to afford a household,
00:15:49.540 be able to afford clothes and food for their children.
00:15:52.020 And we have to put those people first,
00:15:53.600 not the ones that are making millions of dollars
00:15:55.140 and not the ones that are trying to destroy the country
00:15:57.100 from the inside out and the government.
00:15:58.360 We are prioritizing the middle class first.
00:16:00.260 We're prioritizing the working class of this country
00:16:01.960 that's struggling to meet paycheck to paycheck.
00:16:03.940 And I think that the reason that you're seeing,
00:16:05.880 you know, Epstein get talked about,
00:16:07.480 you're seeing that,
00:16:08.500 you know,
00:16:08.740 this spy that the Israeli embassy hosted,
00:16:12.120 I think you have to understand
00:16:14.140 that that anger comes from us
00:16:16.560 wanting to prioritize the American people first.
00:16:18.960 Right.
00:16:19.140 So the idea being that,
00:16:20.760 you know,
00:16:21.680 our national security is,
00:16:23.360 the whole idea,
00:16:24.160 I'm not going to sit here and say that the,
00:16:25.880 you know,
00:16:26.240 you want to talk about elites who have a PR problem,
00:16:29.720 the intelligence community.
00:16:31.180 Yeah.
00:16:31.460 A little bit of an issue there,
00:16:33.020 but so,
00:16:33.820 you know,
00:16:33.980 the way it's supposed to work,
00:16:35.000 if you watch like,
00:16:35.980 like the Netflix version and Amazon Prime
00:16:38.920 and all the propaganda films they could put out,
00:16:41.320 it's supposed to be,
00:16:43.100 look,
00:16:43.560 we give them this incredible power,
00:16:45.960 this,
00:16:46.360 and you got cash,
00:16:47.360 you got Dan Bongino,
00:16:48.600 you got Ratcliffe,
00:16:49.700 Tulsi Gabbard,
00:16:50.880 of course,
00:16:51.580 who are all in there,
00:16:52.560 Joe Kent,
00:16:53.140 the great Joe Kent,
00:16:54.020 they're all there.
00:16:55.240 And given this power,
00:16:56.880 because we want to be safe.
00:16:58.720 Exactly.
00:16:59.140 Because we want you to prevent,
00:17:02.020 whether it's the cartels,
00:17:03.800 whether it's terrorism,
00:17:04.920 whether it's China,
00:17:06.120 Russia,
00:17:06.520 Iran,
00:17:07.400 Paraguay,
00:17:08.080 whatever,
00:17:08.580 you know,
00:17:08.760 Mexico,
00:17:09.100 whatever country preventing us from harm.
00:17:14.260 And so to be a traitor from that,
00:17:17.120 to be a traitor,
00:17:17.900 it's,
00:17:18.180 you're not just putting yourself at risk.
00:17:22.100 You're not just,
00:17:22.780 you know,
00:17:24.220 betraying your agency,
00:17:25.420 betraying your country.
00:17:26.020 You're betraying your fellow countrymen.
00:17:27.840 Right.
00:17:28.060 You're betraying our safety.
00:17:29.320 You're betraying my children's safety.
00:17:30.740 You're betraying my safety.
00:17:31.740 Right.
00:17:32.080 Right.
00:17:32.380 My parents' safety.
00:17:33.640 That's how we should look at this.
00:17:35.200 And so a traitor to the nation,
00:17:38.320 I mean,
00:17:38.660 it's,
00:17:38.940 it's almost like outside of actual violence.
00:17:41.640 I don't know what could be,
00:17:42.580 even be a greater crime.
00:17:43.460 It's like seditious behavior.
00:17:45.060 It is seditious behavior.
00:17:46.340 Yeah.
00:17:46.520 It's like President Trump said.
00:17:47.280 As President Trump said,
00:17:48.440 it just yesterday,
00:17:49.260 we had this whole,
00:17:50.280 you know,
00:17:50.760 thing about it.
00:17:51.580 And the thing about it,
00:17:52.360 like,
00:17:52.540 which I loved.
00:17:53.560 Oh,
00:17:54.080 I loved it too.
00:17:55.020 I loved it.
00:17:55.260 And then Caroline,
00:17:55.980 she said,
00:17:56.380 well,
00:17:57.040 I liked it though.
00:17:58.740 I was like,
00:17:59.280 I mean,
00:17:59.760 Caroline,
00:18:00.020 we'll talk.
00:18:01.480 Well,
00:18:01.680 anyway,
00:18:02.080 we have people sitting in jail right now
00:18:04.060 because they had knowledge of January 6th going on,
00:18:06.760 but yet we're hosting people who had knowledge of U.S. interests
00:18:09.540 that were giving our information over to Israel
00:18:11.500 or any other country
00:18:12.540 that we're hosting and promoting at the Israeli embassy.
00:18:15.700 That's exactly right.
00:18:16.540 That's exactly right.
00:18:18.400 You've got people in jail,
00:18:19.760 or I think most of them have gotten out,
00:18:21.600 but people were in jail for years,
00:18:24.080 and then they turn around
00:18:25.460 and they invite this guy
00:18:27.260 into a U.S. embassy
00:18:28.440 that Trump moved into Jerusalem
00:18:30.680 who's a traitor.
00:18:32.560 And it just,
00:18:34.140 I'm telling you guys,
00:18:35.360 it creates this perception
00:18:36.480 of you're whining and dining
00:18:39.280 this guy
00:18:40.860 because he's a member of this elite.
00:18:44.000 And it's like when you go to the,
00:18:46.620 you know,
00:18:46.940 it's like we go to the amusement park
00:18:48.240 or whatever,
00:18:48.860 and you're waiting in line
00:18:50.740 and it's hot and it's sweaty
00:18:51.700 and the kids are screaming,
00:18:52.800 and these guys just get the fast pass.
00:18:54.320 And you're like,
00:18:54.700 how did they get,
00:18:56.060 you know,
00:18:56.400 and it's like a secret fast pass.
00:18:57.980 No one else has.
00:18:58.820 An elitist fast pass.
00:18:59.880 An elitist pass.
00:19:00.880 Folks,
00:19:01.160 Jack Posobiec,
00:19:01.800 Kenny Cody,
00:19:02.400 we're here at Human Events Daily.
00:19:03.720 We'll be right back.
00:19:11.600 Today,
00:19:12.140 you know,
00:19:12.560 they talk about influencers.
00:19:14.100 These are influencers
00:19:15.060 and they're friends of mine.
00:19:18.360 Jack Posobiec.
00:19:19.920 Where's Jack?
00:19:20.800 Jack.
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00:20:47.280 We're here in studio
00:20:48.280 with Kenny Cody.
00:20:49.060 Kenny,
00:20:49.560 I want to drill down
00:20:50.400 on this a little bit more.
00:20:52.080 When,
00:20:53.140 you know,
00:20:53.480 we do see
00:20:54.240 President Trump's polls
00:20:55.920 dipping
00:20:56.480 and we see him,
00:20:58.140 you know,
00:20:58.500 going into the 40s.
00:21:00.000 There are some people
00:21:00.680 out there
00:21:00.980 who have him in the 30s.
00:21:01.740 I don't think
00:21:02.020 that's quite right.
00:21:02.780 Sure.
00:21:03.040 But you see that
00:21:04.140 and what I look at
00:21:06.420 is I see base erosion.
00:21:07.720 I see people who,
00:21:08.760 it's not people who,
00:21:10.260 you know,
00:21:11.820 who hated Trump
00:21:12.780 and people are joining them.
00:21:13.640 No,
00:21:13.960 it's that people
00:21:14.620 who supported him
00:21:16.460 in the election,
00:21:17.580 people who came out
00:21:18.400 for him,
00:21:18.720 these independents,
00:21:19.540 these low prop voters,
00:21:20.420 these people
00:21:20.720 who aren't usually
00:21:21.580 involved in politics,
00:21:22.920 those are the people
00:21:23.880 coming out and saying,
00:21:25.120 you know,
00:21:25.980 I don't know.
00:21:26.760 I'm just not sure.
00:21:28.480 How does the populism
00:21:30.040 versus elitism matrix
00:21:31.480 play into that?
00:21:32.620 Well,
00:21:32.920 populism to me,
00:21:34.040 I've spoken about this
00:21:35.360 for a lot of years.
00:21:36.160 It is a tool.
00:21:37.080 Populism doesn't have
00:21:37.920 a necessary ideology.
00:21:40.100 It's not communist.
00:21:41.080 It's not conservative.
00:21:42.020 It is a tool
00:21:43.300 that you use
00:21:44.000 to talk to the people
00:21:45.060 that are not elites,
00:21:46.380 to talk to the working class.
00:21:47.220 And I should say that,
00:21:48.600 as you point that out,
00:21:50.100 Mandami is going to be
00:21:51.340 in the White House today.
00:21:52.060 And he's a populist.
00:21:52.560 So there's a populist,
00:21:54.220 or there is a communist
00:21:55.280 who uses populism.
00:21:56.920 Populism, yes.
00:21:57.800 But it's a different flavor
00:21:58.880 of populism
00:21:59.680 where it's not like,
00:22:01.100 hey,
00:22:01.360 let's work to rise,
00:22:03.220 you know,
00:22:03.540 take the ground floor
00:22:04.520 and raise it up
00:22:05.620 and help out everybody.
00:22:07.060 No,
00:22:07.440 he's much more about
00:22:08.500 taking the people
00:22:09.120 at the top
00:22:09.640 and killing them
00:22:10.900 and castigating them
00:22:12.380 and taking their stuff.
00:22:13.460 Yeah,
00:22:13.600 and selling that
00:22:14.260 to the American public,
00:22:15.200 like saying that
00:22:15.860 to the constituency
00:22:16.500 that this is a good idea,
00:22:17.660 it's going to promote
00:22:18.280 working class stuff,
00:22:19.380 and it's a tool.
00:22:19.880 But it's predicated
00:22:20.520 on very much
00:22:21.560 the same anger
00:22:22.220 because we were going
00:22:23.560 through the New York data
00:22:24.400 and there were people,
00:22:26.300 all right,
00:22:26.460 if you just look
00:22:26.880 at the numbers,
00:22:27.700 there are people
00:22:28.340 who voted for Trump
00:22:29.380 in 2024
00:22:30.640 and then also voted
00:22:32.700 for Mandani
00:22:33.640 in 2025.
00:22:35.640 And if you don't
00:22:36.720 understand populism,
00:22:37.800 that would seem crazy to you.
00:22:38.900 And it's obvious
00:22:39.520 that New York didn't.
00:22:40.500 I mean,
00:22:40.660 Andrew Cuomo
00:22:41.360 was the most anti-populist
00:22:43.480 that I've about ever seen.
00:22:44.580 It literally came
00:22:44.920 from a family
00:22:45.480 that was elected.
00:22:46.240 It literally came
00:22:46.620 from a family
00:22:47.600 that was intrigent
00:22:48.560 in New York politics.
00:22:50.480 And he was the anti-populist
00:22:51.980 and he lost by a landslide.
00:22:53.860 And I think that's
00:22:54.660 what the issue
00:22:55.220 the GOP needs
00:22:55.860 to realize right now.
00:22:56.600 And I've been
00:22:56.900 singing the praises
00:22:57.980 for years.
00:22:58.920 Populism is how
00:22:59.500 you win elections.
00:23:00.360 No matter if the end result
00:23:02.280 is good
00:23:02.760 or the end result is bad,
00:23:04.180 that is how you win elections.
00:23:05.760 But it's also
00:23:06.500 how you have to govern.
00:23:07.240 Yes, absolutely.
00:23:08.380 Because you have to listen
00:23:09.100 to the middle class.
00:23:10.440 Because what populism is,
00:23:11.660 it's having an ear
00:23:12.700 to the issues
00:23:13.720 that people are caring about.
00:23:15.020 And like the affordability
00:23:15.820 crisis that Charlie
00:23:16.660 always talked about,
00:23:17.700 that is the main issue.
00:23:19.780 It doesn't matter
00:23:20.420 what the political
00:23:20.880 identification is.
00:23:21.740 Whether you're
00:23:22.080 a Republican or Democrat,
00:23:23.120 the affordability crisis
00:23:24.120 is the main problem
00:23:25.420 in this country
00:23:25.960 amongst young conservatives,
00:23:27.340 amongst young liberals,
00:23:28.500 amongst Generation Z.
00:23:29.860 And even those
00:23:30.480 that are a little bit
00:23:30.980 older than Generation Z,
00:23:32.440 those that may move
00:23:33.380 to another state
00:23:34.120 because of a housing crisis
00:23:35.880 or they have to move
00:23:36.600 for a job,
00:23:37.500 the affordability crisis
00:23:38.400 is going to be
00:23:38.900 an ever-present issue.
00:23:40.260 And we have to have
00:23:40.920 our ear to the ground
00:23:41.720 and use populism
00:23:43.060 to know what conservative
00:23:44.300 solutions that we can find
00:23:45.780 in order to win elections
00:23:47.360 and in order to actually
00:23:48.540 deliver on the promises
00:23:49.660 that we have made
00:23:50.240 to Generation Z.
00:23:50.680 And J.D. Vance came out
00:23:51.820 yesterday at that
00:23:52.540 Breitbart forum
00:23:53.280 and he said,
00:23:54.020 look, I don't care
00:23:54.640 what the politics are.
00:23:55.720 We need a health care plan.
00:23:56.960 Yes.
00:23:57.480 And the fact that we,
00:23:58.900 you know,
00:23:59.300 he was talking about
00:23:59.860 the administration
00:24:00.320 and he was saying
00:24:00.840 the fact that we've been
00:24:01.460 in office for this long
00:24:02.340 and haven't presented
00:24:03.340 a health care plan
00:24:04.060 to the American people,
00:24:05.060 it is an issue
00:24:06.060 because, you know,
00:24:07.960 Trump ran against Obamacare.
00:24:09.480 He's been running
00:24:10.000 against it for years.
00:24:11.320 And it's actually
00:24:12.140 kind of funny.
00:24:12.740 It's a little ironic.
00:24:13.720 The Democrats are attacking him
00:24:15.060 for not having
00:24:15.900 a replacement for it.
00:24:16.740 It's like,
00:24:17.480 so you admit that
00:24:18.260 Obamacare sucks.
00:24:19.020 You all admit that
00:24:20.820 it needs to be replaced.
00:24:22.280 I just wanted to point that out.
00:24:23.640 Exactly.
00:24:24.320 But at the same time,
00:24:26.060 we all have to live under it.
00:24:27.780 And, you know,
00:24:28.700 I think what J.D. Vance
00:24:29.600 said is correct
00:24:30.260 because you can't just
00:24:31.660 complain about
00:24:32.760 what's going on.
00:24:33.680 You do actually have to
00:24:34.540 step up and offer something.
00:24:35.860 Offer action.
00:24:36.860 You know,
00:24:37.120 I wrote a column
00:24:38.160 this week
00:24:39.100 that was kind of rejecting
00:24:40.300 the old William F. Buckley
00:24:41.480 form of conservatism
00:24:42.380 and adopting that
00:24:43.080 Pat Buchanan
00:24:43.740 Wilmore-Kendall
00:24:44.500 conservatism.
00:24:45.700 And that includes
00:24:46.200 actual action.
00:24:47.460 Yes, very based.
00:24:48.000 And that includes
00:24:49.280 actual action
00:24:50.240 over just talking points.
00:24:52.300 Like,
00:24:52.400 you actually have to go out
00:24:53.600 instead of going
00:24:54.040 and debating
00:24:54.960 and getting along
00:24:55.600 with Democrats,
00:24:56.460 we actually have to
00:24:56.980 offer solutions
00:24:57.720 and deliver on promises.
00:24:58.840 And that's something
00:24:59.240 that Buckley
00:24:59.660 didn't really want to do.
00:25:00.280 He wanted to go over
00:25:00.840 and talk to everybody
00:25:01.700 and get along with everybody.
00:25:02.720 Buchanan wanted action.
00:25:03.840 He wanted to go out
00:25:04.380 and listen
00:25:04.800 and use that populism
00:25:05.900 to the effect
00:25:06.520 of actually getting
00:25:07.420 policy done,
00:25:08.280 prioritizing policy first
00:25:09.360 and the America first mindset
00:25:10.620 and delivering on the promises
00:25:12.160 for the middle class
00:25:12.860 and the working class people
00:25:13.780 while Buckley just wanted
00:25:14.820 to get along with everybody
00:25:15.540 and promote low taxes.
00:25:16.420 And that's the new form
00:25:17.420 of concern.
00:25:18.380 So you need that
00:25:19.020 in your optics.
00:25:19.860 And I do think
00:25:20.660 that the One Big Beautiful Bill
00:25:21.820 had a lot of those wins in it.
00:25:23.400 Yes.
00:25:23.740 But at the same time,
00:25:24.740 it got passed
00:25:25.640 and it's like nobody
00:25:27.660 saw anything change.
00:25:28.980 Yeah.
00:25:29.140 Where was the tour?
00:25:30.160 Where was that?
00:25:30.700 Rich Barris came on here
00:25:31.580 and said,
00:25:32.260 I want to see President Trump
00:25:33.300 on tour.
00:25:34.120 I want to see him
00:25:34.740 going to the factories
00:25:35.720 and turning the lights
00:25:36.660 back on.
00:25:37.200 Right.
00:25:37.340 I want to see him,
00:25:38.480 you know,
00:25:38.860 going to these places.
00:25:40.360 Don't just sit in a room
00:25:41.640 and say,
00:25:42.020 oh, this magnate from Japan
00:25:44.000 says he's going to invest
00:25:45.420 and now here's
00:25:45.960 the Saudi prince
00:25:46.700 and he's doing a trillion.
00:25:47.880 It's like,
00:25:48.360 oh, okay.
00:25:49.360 It's optics again.
00:25:50.160 Again, this is optics.
00:25:51.740 You need to show the people
00:25:53.500 that you are delivering.
00:25:55.960 Absolutely.
00:25:56.720 And that way,
00:25:57.300 when it does happen,
00:25:58.500 you get it.
00:25:59.100 Now, we do have that
00:25:59.820 on the deportation front.
00:26:01.000 Yes, we do.
00:26:01.720 Which I think is great.
00:26:03.440 We need more of that,
00:26:04.620 obviously.
00:26:05.280 But at the same time,
00:26:06.760 if you don't get those optics,
00:26:08.120 people are going to say,
00:26:09.140 well, I don't see any changes.
00:26:10.600 Right.
00:26:10.740 All I see is this stuff
00:26:12.300 involving foreign policy.
00:26:13.520 Right.
00:26:14.060 One minute to the break.
00:26:15.020 Candy, Cody.
00:26:15.520 And I think they can feel
00:26:16.820 it in their wallets
00:26:17.500 at some points.
00:26:18.640 I mean,
00:26:18.720 I know Caroline Leavitt
00:26:19.620 talked about how
00:26:20.360 the 16% less on turkeys
00:26:22.020 on Thanksgiving
00:26:22.520 and that's all fine and great.
00:26:24.620 But especially
00:26:25.460 with the affordability classes
00:26:26.640 and just like
00:26:27.340 the living conditions,
00:26:28.520 like in cities
00:26:29.240 like they've been federalized,
00:26:30.200 like D.C.
00:26:30.820 and you're sending
00:26:31.180 the National Guard
00:26:31.720 in these cities
00:26:32.220 to keep the peace.
00:26:33.660 Go out and talk to those people.
00:26:34.560 Let me just say it.
00:26:35.020 Let me just say it.
00:26:37.540 Inflation is still a problem
00:26:39.080 and it's Biden inflation.
00:26:40.480 Just keep saying that
00:26:41.640 over and over.
00:26:42.740 Biden inflation
00:26:43.460 is something
00:26:44.180 we're still fighting.
00:26:45.260 Absolutely.
00:26:45.500 That's all you have to say.
00:26:46.760 It is much easier to say
00:26:48.280 than to try to tell people
00:26:49.660 that it's not happening.
00:26:50.680 Exactly.
00:26:50.880 Because you know who did that?
00:26:52.260 Joe Biden.
00:26:52.680 Exactly.
00:26:53.320 Right back.
00:26:53.780 Jack Sobek,
00:26:54.360 Kenny Cody,
00:26:54.940 another special guest
00:26:55.540 joining us
00:26:56.180 in the next block,
00:26:57.780 Human Events Daily.
00:27:04.040 And Jack,
00:27:05.060 where is Jack?
00:27:07.060 Where is Jack?
00:27:09.380 Where is he?
00:27:10.760 Jack,
00:27:11.200 I want to see you.
00:27:14.420 Great job,
00:27:15.420 Jack.
00:27:15.800 Thank you.
00:27:16.540 What a job you do.
00:27:17.980 You know,
00:27:18.240 we have an incredible thing.
00:27:19.360 We're always talking
00:27:19.960 about the fake news
00:27:20.960 and the bad,
00:27:21.680 but we have guys
00:27:22.700 and these are the guys
00:27:24.080 who should be getting
00:27:24.660 Pulisic.
00:27:25.160 All right,
00:27:27.400 folks,
00:27:27.660 Jack Sobek back live,
00:27:28.880 Human Events Daily,
00:27:29.940 Real America's Voice,
00:27:31.000 Washington,
00:27:31.600 D.C.
00:27:31.920 Folks,
00:27:32.280 cold weather will be here
00:27:33.400 before you know it
00:27:34.080 and you know what?
00:27:34.960 I realized something
00:27:35.700 the other day.
00:27:36.520 If the power goes out
00:27:37.280 when it's really cold,
00:27:38.340 I have no way
00:27:39.060 to keep myself
00:27:39.840 and my family warm.
00:27:40.980 Isn't that crazy
00:27:41.700 in this day and age?
00:27:42.720 You could actually freeze.
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00:28:24.280 All right, folks,
00:28:24.920 we got Kenny Cody
00:28:26.040 here in studio,
00:28:27.380 opinion editor
00:28:27.940 of humanevents.com.
00:28:29.560 We're also joined remote
00:28:31.000 via satellite,
00:28:32.680 I love saying that,
00:28:33.740 in our West Palm Beach studio
00:28:35.940 by Cliff Maloney
00:28:37.060 of the PHAs.
00:28:37.820 What's up, Cliff?
00:28:39.520 Yo, yo, glad to be here.
00:28:40.640 Thanks for having me, guys.
00:28:41.780 So, Cliff,
00:28:42.200 Kenny and I
00:28:42.580 have been talking about this
00:28:43.580 and I think you,
00:28:44.640 you know,
00:28:44.820 come from Pennsylvania
00:28:45.700 as well.
00:28:46.860 You know,
00:28:47.200 it's this story,
00:28:48.820 it's a huge scandal
00:28:49.840 and I'm just going to say it,
00:28:51.100 it really is
00:28:52.000 and it's something
00:28:52.660 that's going to,
00:28:53.440 I think,
00:28:53.620 affect voters
00:28:54.480 and it already is
00:28:55.880 because it plays
00:28:56.860 into an optics situation
00:28:58.360 that's been happening
00:28:59.580 with the administration.
00:29:00.920 Mike Huckabee
00:29:01.580 just invited
00:29:02.660 a convicted traitor
00:29:04.060 into the U.S. Embassy
00:29:05.880 in Jerusalem
00:29:06.700 over in Israel
00:29:07.500 and apparently
00:29:09.240 and apparently
00:29:09.260 sat down
00:29:09.900 and had a meeting
00:29:10.380 with him
00:29:10.700 that the White House
00:29:11.460 didn't even know about.
00:29:13.320 Cliff,
00:29:14.100 explain it for people
00:29:16.340 who don't understand
00:29:17.840 any of the background.
00:29:19.300 For low-prop voters
00:29:20.640 who I know you focus on
00:29:21.820 and study,
00:29:22.840 for independents,
00:29:24.400 for Gen Z,
00:29:25.620 millennial voters,
00:29:26.880 why does doing
00:29:27.940 something like that
00:29:29.100 drive a huge
00:29:30.920 optics problem
00:29:32.140 for the party?
00:29:34.060 Yeah,
00:29:34.560 well,
00:29:34.660 let's start
00:29:35.000 with the basics.
00:29:35.780 You've said this earlier,
00:29:36.700 Jack,
00:29:36.980 and I want to repeat it.
00:29:37.820 You can't meet
00:29:39.060 with traders.
00:29:40.800 You cannot meet
00:29:42.180 with traders.
00:29:42.920 That has to be
00:29:43.680 the policy
00:29:44.160 of the United States
00:29:45.140 and the official
00:29:46.020 serving in government.
00:29:46.780 What a concept.
00:29:47.960 Right.
00:29:48.640 I asked Kenny that.
00:29:49.580 Wait, wait, Cliff.
00:29:50.220 I asked Kenny that
00:29:50.960 because he's here in D.C.
00:29:51.940 on a series of meetings.
00:29:52.820 Cliff,
00:29:53.360 you're down there
00:29:53.920 in Palm Beach.
00:29:54.540 I got to ask, man,
00:29:55.720 have you met
00:29:56.300 with any traders
00:29:57.000 while you're there?
00:29:58.700 That's a big fat no.
00:30:00.120 All right.
00:30:00.640 Big no.
00:30:01.200 Big no.
00:30:01.900 Excellent.
00:30:02.240 Look, I think
00:30:03.200 my answer is this.
00:30:05.080 In the battle
00:30:05.920 of trying to reach people,
00:30:07.140 and Kenny said it earlier,
00:30:08.100 I think he's exactly right,
00:30:09.740 you have to hit
00:30:10.340 working class
00:30:10.960 on working class issues.
00:30:12.700 And one of the biggest issues
00:30:14.660 and just ravaging debates
00:30:16.340 of our time
00:30:17.100 is where America
00:30:18.380 should stand with Israel,
00:30:19.680 regardless of what side
00:30:20.760 you're on,
00:30:21.580 to have somebody
00:30:23.020 in the position
00:30:23.800 that Mike Huckabee
00:30:24.580 is in inviting
00:30:25.800 this convicted traitor,
00:30:28.680 it just really plays
00:30:30.760 into that whole argument
00:30:31.900 that maybe we're not
00:30:33.640 the party that stands
00:30:34.540 with the working class.
00:30:35.460 And I think Donald Trump
00:30:36.320 has done a great job
00:30:37.480 when it comes to
00:30:38.460 some of these issues,
00:30:39.340 these populist issues
00:30:40.400 that put America first
00:30:41.680 to make sure
00:30:42.920 that working class,
00:30:43.940 blue-collar Americans
00:30:44.920 get it.
00:30:45.500 And so when we talk
00:30:46.160 to people at the door,
00:30:47.120 Jack,
00:30:47.740 this is going to make
00:30:48.560 the conversation tougher.
00:30:50.240 Stories like this,
00:30:51.640 developments like this,
00:30:53.140 that show that we're
00:30:53.840 doing backroom deals
00:30:54.940 with some convicted traders
00:30:56.180 from foreign countries,
00:30:57.240 regardless of what country
00:30:58.360 it is,
00:30:58.740 that's not playing
00:30:59.780 to the America first agenda.
00:31:01.340 So I think this is
00:31:01.840 a major problem,
00:31:02.760 and I think we need
00:31:03.640 to make sure we don't
00:31:04.180 have any more mistakes
00:31:05.100 like this moving forward.
00:31:07.080 That's so perfect
00:31:08.780 the way you just said that.
00:31:10.040 He literally held
00:31:11.080 a backroom meeting
00:31:12.240 with a convicted traitor
00:31:13.660 to the United States.
00:31:15.480 And Cliff,
00:31:16.860 I just want to say
00:31:17.540 the way that Kenny
00:31:18.200 put it earlier,
00:31:19.840 you know,
00:31:20.260 it does just make it look
00:31:22.020 like there's two tracks again.
00:31:23.600 It makes it look like
00:31:24.660 there's an elite track
00:31:25.740 for certain groups of people
00:31:27.680 and there's one other track
00:31:29.680 for all the other rubes.
00:31:31.100 And isn't that
00:31:32.020 the exact same thing
00:31:33.300 when you go out there
00:31:34.140 when you're knocking on doors?
00:31:35.360 That's the exact message
00:31:36.620 that we're trying to
00:31:37.580 fight against.
00:31:40.200 Yeah, and look,
00:31:41.060 2024 was the proof
00:31:42.640 in the pudding
00:31:43.460 that authenticity
00:31:44.520 is what most Americans
00:31:46.560 care about, right?
00:31:47.740 That's the battle
00:31:48.440 you're referencing, Jack,
00:31:49.460 the battle between
00:31:50.320 authenticity
00:31:51.100 and elitism,
00:31:52.440 between real Americans
00:31:53.760 that go out there,
00:31:55.440 that do the work,
00:31:56.400 that actually make production
00:31:57.600 here in the country possible
00:32:00.100 versus those
00:32:01.440 that are in their bubble,
00:32:02.700 that are the elitists,
00:32:04.000 that look down
00:32:04.740 on working class Americans.
00:32:06.780 And so I think right now
00:32:07.600 that is the battle.
00:32:08.420 In 2024,
00:32:09.100 we threaded the needle.
00:32:10.480 We took a billionaire
00:32:11.300 from New York
00:32:12.300 and because that's who
00:32:13.660 he is, Donald Trump,
00:32:14.980 we showed the American people
00:32:16.720 that Republicans
00:32:17.460 are the party
00:32:18.460 of authenticity.
00:32:20.200 That's going to be the battle
00:32:21.320 when it comes to messaging
00:32:22.260 in 2026.
00:32:23.120 It's going to be the battle
00:32:24.540 when it comes to winning
00:32:25.340 the White House back
00:32:26.260 in 2028.
00:32:28.060 But it's not an easy one.
00:32:29.520 And Democrats for years
00:32:30.720 have dominated Republicans
00:32:32.060 by using so many
00:32:33.620 of these kitchen table issues
00:32:35.460 that we beat them on
00:32:36.640 in 2024.
00:32:37.960 We cannot let up on that.
00:32:39.600 We've got to keep talking
00:32:40.560 about the price of eggs,
00:32:42.380 the price of gas,
00:32:43.760 what the value of money
00:32:44.840 is in this country,
00:32:46.180 closing the border
00:32:47.000 to put American citizens
00:32:48.600 over illegal immigrants.
00:32:50.380 These are the key issues.
00:32:51.480 And when we have
00:32:52.300 developments like this,
00:32:53.200 it makes it so much tougher
00:32:54.480 to prove that we are
00:32:55.800 the party of authenticity.
00:32:57.980 Kenny Cody,
00:32:58.760 just a quick question.
00:32:59.880 Are you a billionaire
00:33:00.560 from New York City?
00:33:01.880 Far from it.
00:33:02.740 You are not.
00:33:03.300 Far from it.
00:33:04.820 And yet,
00:33:05.940 you're in East Tennessee
00:33:06.880 and correct me if I'm wrong,
00:33:09.040 but East Tennessee
00:33:09.740 was a little bit pro-Trump,
00:33:11.060 right?
00:33:11.840 As strong as pro-Trump
00:33:13.260 is anywhere in the country.
00:33:13.780 I'm from the county
00:33:14.400 that was 88-12.
00:33:15.720 88-12.
00:33:16.420 So why is it then
00:33:18.480 that a working-class area
00:33:19.820 like that,
00:33:20.400 rural area like that,
00:33:21.360 would go for a billionaire
00:33:22.620 from New York?
00:33:23.220 Because as Cliff says,
00:33:24.480 this seems like a mismatch.
00:33:26.640 Because of populism.
00:33:27.700 Because of selling
00:33:28.640 middle-class,
00:33:29.620 working-class issues
00:33:30.600 to the people
00:33:31.520 that desperately need it.
00:33:32.480 That's all my county is.
00:33:34.000 We're all school teachers.
00:33:36.080 We're factory workers.
00:33:38.000 We're working-class Americans.
00:33:40.500 I guarantee there's not
00:33:41.680 a billionaire within 50 miles,
00:33:43.500 potentially,
00:33:43.880 maybe an oxful of a billionaire
00:33:45.600 existing even close to Cock County.
00:33:47.520 But we know that Donald Trump
00:33:48.580 listened to our people.
00:33:50.000 We were concerned
00:33:50.460 about our health care.
00:33:51.260 We were concerned
00:33:51.740 about our losing our jobs
00:33:53.620 to sending our jobs
00:33:55.440 into China,
00:33:56.480 factories moving out,
00:33:57.700 which happened actually
00:33:58.520 to my county.
00:33:59.260 ConAgra moved out
00:34:00.280 about 10 years ago
00:34:01.620 and cost 500 jobs,
00:34:03.100 which is a huge job loss
00:34:04.180 in my county
00:34:04.800 because of offshore
00:34:06.540 because of sending jobs
00:34:07.800 to other nations.
00:34:09.080 And I think that
00:34:09.840 with this trade war,
00:34:11.720 with using populist issues
00:34:13.340 and being able to focus
00:34:15.420 on the affordability
00:34:16.580 crisis going on
00:34:17.260 in the country,
00:34:18.100 that's how you listen
00:34:18.860 to people just like mine.
00:34:20.620 Yeah, Cliff,
00:34:21.360 what Kenny's saying
00:34:22.520 I think makes so much sense.
00:34:23.860 Now, I don't know
00:34:24.940 how many operations
00:34:25.920 you have in Tennessee,
00:34:27.300 but look, in Pennsylvania,
00:34:28.360 that's what we hear
00:34:29.040 all the time, isn't it?
00:34:30.960 Well, I mean,
00:34:31.580 I'll take some credit.
00:34:32.840 One of our biggest wins
00:34:33.880 was also one of the largest men
00:34:35.920 I've ever worked for.
00:34:36.780 That's Glenn Jacobs.
00:34:37.660 Oh, that's right.
00:34:38.180 Right, that's right.
00:34:38.980 Out of Knox County,
00:34:41.580 who I know Kenny
00:34:42.100 knows very well.
00:34:42.840 So we really appreciate
00:34:44.420 Glenn Jacobs.
00:34:45.820 And Kenny's right.
00:34:46.520 I mean, the people of Tennessee,
00:34:47.920 it's very, very representative
00:34:49.980 of the people of Pennsylvania.
00:34:51.960 You know, when you get out
00:34:52.700 into the suburbs
00:34:53.280 and especially into
00:34:54.080 the T of Pennsylvania,
00:34:55.720 it's the same thing.
00:34:56.900 Guys, this is not
00:34:57.840 reinventing the wheel.
00:34:59.060 Now, politicians
00:34:59.700 and a lot of the consultant class
00:35:02.120 try to make this out
00:35:02.940 to be something that it's not,
00:35:04.500 which is that it has to be
00:35:05.560 the perfect message.
00:35:06.600 And it has to be
00:35:07.620 good candidate quality,
00:35:09.200 as Tyler Boyer
00:35:10.400 always calls them out
00:35:11.340 for those lies.
00:35:12.580 No, we just have to do the work
00:35:14.240 to connect with people
00:35:15.240 where they're at.
00:35:16.320 They're trying to take
00:35:17.080 their kids to soccer practice.
00:35:19.000 They're trying to put food
00:35:19.860 on the table.
00:35:20.420 They're trying to pay
00:35:21.040 their mortgage.
00:35:22.240 And so these America
00:35:23.060 First policies,
00:35:24.280 they resonate
00:35:25.180 with the American people,
00:35:26.860 but it's on us
00:35:28.000 to make sure
00:35:28.580 we can show
00:35:29.320 the difference
00:35:30.100 between what America
00:35:31.380 First is
00:35:32.120 and some of this radical
00:35:33.480 Looney Tunes stuff
00:35:34.460 on the left.
00:35:35.180 Well, Cliff,
00:35:35.560 and let me say this, too.
00:35:37.640 When it comes
00:35:38.120 to those people as well,
00:35:39.820 I mean,
00:35:40.180 every issue
00:35:40.980 you just mentioned
00:35:41.460 right there
00:35:41.800 was economic issue.
00:35:42.740 They vote with their wallets.
00:35:43.740 These people clearly do.
00:35:46.040 When it comes to trust, though,
00:35:47.980 are these a particularly
00:35:49.540 trustworthy group of people
00:35:51.240 when it comes to,
00:35:52.060 I don't know,
00:35:52.820 politicians?
00:35:55.940 Well, let me answer this.
00:35:57.440 I mean,
00:35:57.820 my favorite moment,
00:35:59.200 I think I was with you
00:36:00.060 on Charlie's show, Jack,
00:36:01.460 is when Charlie said,
00:36:02.440 Cliff,
00:36:02.680 how does a Ron Paul libertarian
00:36:04.540 end up becoming
00:36:05.240 the America First guy
00:36:06.320 running Trump's
00:36:07.040 ballot chase effort
00:36:07.860 in Pennsylvania?
00:36:08.680 Yeah.
00:36:09.180 And what you just said
00:36:09.880 when it comes to trust, Jack,
00:36:11.140 ended up being
00:36:11.640 one of the number one issues
00:36:12.780 in 2024.
00:36:14.340 Kamala Harris cares
00:36:15.560 for they, them,
00:36:16.740 and Donald Trump
00:36:17.600 cares for you, right?
00:36:19.260 When you are cutting
00:36:20.140 the private parts
00:36:21.020 off of young children
00:36:22.260 and thinking
00:36:23.300 that that's okay,
00:36:24.660 my trust
00:36:25.380 for any other
00:36:26.120 policy positions
00:36:27.060 you want to have,
00:36:28.220 any other advice
00:36:29.160 you want to give me
00:36:29.960 as a citizen
00:36:30.580 of this great country,
00:36:31.740 I stop listening.
00:36:34.020 The trust issue
00:36:34.900 because of the
00:36:35.640 trans-woke nonsense
00:36:36.960 makes it so tough
00:36:38.580 for normal
00:36:39.340 blue-collar voters
00:36:40.720 to take some of these
00:36:41.920 radical Democrats
00:36:42.800 seriously.
00:36:43.800 So no,
00:36:44.240 I don't trust them.
00:36:46.100 Well, and then,
00:36:46.540 but this is what
00:36:46.940 I want to say, though,
00:36:47.660 is that,
00:36:48.580 and as maybe,
00:36:49.420 I'll say it,
00:36:49.960 it's a warning, right?
00:36:50.800 This is a warning
00:36:51.480 to anyone
00:36:53.160 who's using populism,
00:36:55.240 who's looking
00:36:55.580 at the coalition.
00:36:56.580 If you lose
00:36:57.480 that trust,
00:36:58.640 if you start
00:36:59.560 appearing inauthentic,
00:37:01.300 if you start
00:37:02.420 looking like
00:37:03.040 you're dabbling
00:37:03.840 in these elite games,
00:37:05.040 like saying,
00:37:05.640 oh, I don't know,
00:37:07.340 inviting a convicted
00:37:08.380 trader to have
00:37:09.940 dinner at the embassy,
00:37:11.640 right,
00:37:11.920 you lose that trust,
00:37:13.500 you lose that
00:37:14.340 authenticity,
00:37:15.020 and by the way,
00:37:16.120 these people,
00:37:16.800 I know them,
00:37:17.700 I've worked
00:37:19.180 with people like this,
00:37:20.440 I grew up around
00:37:21.460 people like this,
00:37:22.260 they want to hate you,
00:37:24.320 they want to mistrust you,
00:37:25.860 they're not a trustworthy
00:37:26.660 group of people,
00:37:27.580 they usually sit there
00:37:28.740 and say,
00:37:29.100 ah,
00:37:29.860 you know,
00:37:30.180 that's all the inside game,
00:37:31.880 you know,
00:37:32.460 I got to look out for me
00:37:33.540 because nobody else
00:37:34.280 is going to look out for me.
00:37:35.560 That's the mindset
00:37:36.620 that you get,
00:37:37.600 so someone comes in
00:37:38.500 and promises everything,
00:37:39.540 they say,
00:37:39.800 okay,
00:37:39.960 we'll give you a shot,
00:37:40.880 but they're waiting
00:37:42.040 for that one moment
00:37:42.960 to say,
00:37:43.480 I'm dipping,
00:37:44.120 I'm out.
00:37:44.560 Jack DeSobo,
00:37:45.200 Kenny Cody,
00:37:46.320 Cliff Maloney,
00:37:47.020 the Monster Mash panel
00:37:48.500 of MAGA is here
00:37:49.940 this Friday afternoon
00:37:51.020 on Human Events Daily.
00:37:51.820 Jack is a great guy,
00:38:01.940 he's written a fantastic book,
00:38:03.580 everybody's talking about it,
00:38:04.860 go get it,
00:38:05.940 and he's been my friend
00:38:06.920 right from the beginning
00:38:07.860 of this whole beautiful event,
00:38:09.940 and we're going to turn it around
00:38:11.300 and make our country
00:38:12.220 great,
00:38:12.560 amen.
00:38:16.340 All right,
00:38:16.940 Jack DeSobo here live,
00:38:18.280 we've got the Monster MAGA panel
00:38:20.280 here on Friday afternoon
00:38:22.260 on Human Events Daily,
00:38:23.280 we've got Kenny Cody,
00:38:25.220 we've got Cliff Maloney,
00:38:26.840 this is,
00:38:28.000 if you want populist nationalism,
00:38:30.320 look no further,
00:38:31.640 but this is what I want to say,
00:38:33.320 and Kenny Cody,
00:38:34.520 in our last segment,
00:38:35.420 I want to give you a chance
00:38:36.200 to respond to what I was saying,
00:38:37.240 that this is,
00:38:39.180 you know,
00:38:39.720 the flip side of populism
00:38:41.500 is if you start looking
00:38:43.260 like you're trending
00:38:43.960 in an elitist direction,
00:38:45.500 they are on you,
00:38:46.560 they are on you.
00:38:47.700 Yes,
00:38:47.920 and also they look
00:38:49.540 at alternatives,
00:38:50.280 so if somebody
00:38:51.560 does not use populism
00:38:52.600 in the correct manner
00:38:53.640 and actually listen
00:38:54.200 to the working class,
00:38:54.860 the middle class,
00:38:55.740 what happens after that?
00:38:56.920 Oh,
00:38:57.420 who else is using populism?
00:38:59.020 Is it a democratic solution
00:39:00.040 or a republican solution?
00:39:01.280 They do not care.
00:39:02.440 Whoever is listening to them
00:39:03.680 and providing
00:39:04.200 some kind of solution,
00:39:05.800 conservatism,
00:39:06.580 liberalism,
00:39:07.140 progressivism,
00:39:07.800 communism,
00:39:09.000 goes out the window
00:39:09.980 for those people
00:39:10.560 and those voters
00:39:11.240 because they actually
00:39:12.520 have somebody
00:39:12.960 that's listening to them.
00:39:14.060 They don't care.
00:39:14.480 They don't care about the isms.
00:39:15.720 They care about the money.
00:39:16.720 They care about the dollars.
00:39:17.720 Look,
00:39:17.840 go and look,
00:39:19.320 by the way,
00:39:19.780 what do you see
00:39:20.480 in Michigan?
00:39:22.480 Everyone saw the crazy
00:39:23.560 Slockan video this week,
00:39:24.580 but what else did she do?
00:39:25.580 She went up in Michigan
00:39:26.580 in front of her voters
00:39:27.340 and she said,
00:39:28.120 I'm declaring a housing crisis
00:39:29.400 in this country.
00:39:30.440 She's declaring a housing crisis.
00:39:32.160 Then,
00:39:32.620 what do you see
00:39:33.140 in Ohio
00:39:34.000 that's going on?
00:39:34.780 You got Dr. Lockdown
00:39:36.000 who's running
00:39:36.420 against Vivek Ramaswamy,
00:39:37.760 but Dr. Lockdown,
00:39:38.980 Amy Acton,
00:39:39.780 what did she start to do?
00:39:41.280 She's campaigning
00:39:42.300 against H-1Bs
00:39:43.840 and she's using
00:39:45.020 support for H-1Bs
00:39:46.460 as a way to say
00:39:47.360 that I'm for the people
00:39:49.340 first
00:39:50.080 and you're not
00:39:51.020 because of your position
00:39:51.920 on this,
00:39:52.320 which isn't even a,
00:39:53.400 you know,
00:39:53.620 it's not a state issue.
00:39:54.440 It's a federal issue,
00:39:55.180 but she's using it
00:39:56.460 to take that mantle
00:39:57.560 of populism.
00:39:59.060 Kenny,
00:40:00.520 did the Democrats
00:40:02.360 realize how powerful
00:40:04.000 this is
00:40:04.740 and is there
00:40:05.240 an opportunity then
00:40:06.260 for them to come in
00:40:07.320 and snake it away
00:40:08.240 from the Republicans?
00:40:09.120 I think there is
00:40:09.600 an opportunity.
00:40:10.060 If that focus gets lost
00:40:11.400 and that concentration
00:40:12.120 on the working class
00:40:13.140 and the ones
00:40:13.980 that are going
00:40:14.320 to the ballot box
00:40:15.120 and those low-pervensity voters
00:40:16.700 like you just talked about too,
00:40:18.140 if that's lost,
00:40:18.960 the Democrats
00:40:19.220 can absolutely use it.
00:40:20.060 We saw Bernie Sanders
00:40:20.800 use it in 2016
00:40:21.580 when he was one
00:40:22.560 of the leading candidates.
00:40:23.200 We saw him use it again
00:40:23.780 in 2020
00:40:24.280 until Clyburn sweeped in
00:40:25.640 and saved Biden
00:40:26.260 who may have been
00:40:27.140 the nominee in 2020.
00:40:28.260 We've seen Democrats use it.
00:40:28.980 Sanders sold out.
00:40:29.780 He's at five mansions later,
00:40:31.140 but he showed
00:40:32.520 that there was a path.
00:40:33.900 Yes, absolutely.
00:40:34.640 Populism is not,
00:40:35.480 again,
00:40:35.800 not a Republican
00:40:36.460 or a Democrat pathway.
00:40:37.880 It is a path to victory
00:40:39.000 no matter which way
00:40:40.000 that you want to slice it.
00:40:41.500 And if we continue
00:40:42.740 to fail on efforts
00:40:45.160 and prioritize foreign policy
00:40:46.700 over domestic policy,
00:40:47.740 if we're trying to forget
00:40:48.900 about the working class American
00:40:50.040 that are responsible
00:40:51.120 for going to the ballot box
00:40:52.400 because with optics like this,
00:40:54.240 like with foreign policy,
00:40:55.660 there's a lot of low-pervensity voters
00:40:57.240 that don't care that much,
00:40:58.280 but when you falter
00:40:59.080 on something as bad as this
00:41:01.260 and hosting a spy
00:41:02.280 at an American embassy,
00:41:03.680 that's something
00:41:04.140 low-pervensity voters
00:41:04.780 are going to say,
00:41:05.340 oh, that's kind of bad,
00:41:06.880 isn't it?
00:41:07.280 Cliff Maloney.
00:41:08.200 Cliff, so look,
00:41:09.880 you mentioned the trans issue,
00:41:11.240 but I think the Democrats
00:41:12.240 have kind of understood.
00:41:13.760 They say, you know what?
00:41:14.640 We're going to move away from that.
00:41:16.020 We're going to get back
00:41:16.580 to kitchen table issues.
00:41:17.940 They're talking about,
00:41:18.660 you got Dr. Lockdown's
00:41:19.640 talking about H-1Bs in Ohio,
00:41:21.720 using that as a cudgel
00:41:22.720 against Ramaswamy.
00:41:24.020 You got Amy Slocken there,
00:41:26.200 or Lee Slocken in Michigan
00:41:28.580 talking about the housing crisis.
00:41:31.860 This is going to be
00:41:32.860 the conversation
00:41:33.560 when you're talking
00:41:34.220 to those persuadable voters
00:41:35.300 at the doors,
00:41:35.740 isn't it?
00:41:37.320 Yeah, and look,
00:41:38.100 no further than
00:41:38.900 New York City, guys.
00:41:40.460 Right?
00:41:40.700 I mean, you're talking about
00:41:41.800 how do they take
00:41:42.420 populism against us?
00:41:43.520 Obviously, I'm not trying
00:41:44.380 to say that we have
00:41:45.160 any interest in socialism,
00:41:46.620 but take the themes
00:41:48.160 of populism,
00:41:48.940 which is it's the little guy
00:41:50.120 versus the man, right?
00:41:51.860 It's the people
00:41:52.540 at the bottom
00:41:53.320 versus the machine.
00:41:55.160 And I just think
00:41:56.200 that New York proved
00:41:57.160 that it can be
00:41:58.080 a weapon of the left, right?
00:41:59.480 That was Mom Dami's
00:42:00.420 whole message.
00:42:01.100 I don't agree with
00:42:01.780 an inch of what
00:42:02.620 that guy says,
00:42:03.580 but it just proves
00:42:04.860 what you guys just said,
00:42:05.880 which is the left
00:42:06.480 can take this idea
00:42:07.720 of being the people
00:42:09.140 pushing back
00:42:09.940 against the establishment,
00:42:11.160 being that rebel
00:42:13.120 who's going to stand
00:42:14.060 for the little guy.
00:42:15.560 And I think you're seeing that.
00:42:16.620 And yes,
00:42:16.980 Jack at the door
00:42:17.680 with all the voters
00:42:18.420 that we talk to,
00:42:19.660 that's what they want to hear
00:42:20.760 is they're focused
00:42:22.560 on their family.
00:42:23.380 They're focused
00:42:23.800 on things they care about.
00:42:25.440 They want to hear
00:42:26.100 that somebody's going
00:42:26.740 to care for them.
00:42:28.000 They want to hear
00:42:28.520 that somebody's not going
00:42:29.400 to be your typical politician.
00:42:31.020 Now, that doesn't necessarily mean
00:42:32.380 that that's a partisan issue, right?
00:42:34.700 Now, obviously,
00:42:35.200 we're usually trying
00:42:35.920 to get Republicans engaged,
00:42:37.480 Republicans to get involved
00:42:39.400 and to take action.
00:42:40.700 But it is that message
00:42:42.160 that what are you going
00:42:43.260 to do for me?
00:42:44.360 And that's different
00:42:45.300 from what a lot
00:42:45.880 of politicians say
00:42:46.840 because a lot of them
00:42:47.480 do a lot of talking,
00:42:48.720 a lot of this,
00:42:49.980 but not a lot of action
00:42:51.040 that actually stands
00:42:51.960 with the American people.
00:42:54.000 I think you're right.
00:42:54.960 I think I love
00:42:55.740 that idea of action.
00:42:56.660 So, Kenny,
00:42:57.760 walk through some things.
00:42:59.060 So, I mentioned going on tour,
00:43:01.460 going to factories,
00:43:02.780 if you have the opportunity,
00:43:03.440 showing it,
00:43:04.000 opening up a factory.
00:43:05.360 What else can you think of?
00:43:06.420 I mean, I think using
00:43:07.660 a lot of these events
00:43:08.560 that you're going to
00:43:09.200 and listening to Generation Z.
00:43:11.180 I mean, there's a reason
00:43:12.020 that they trend
00:43:12.620 in conservative.
00:43:13.420 Wait, wait, wait.
00:43:13.680 Are you saying Trump
00:43:14.980 should hold Gen Z
00:43:15.800 listening events?
00:43:16.640 Yeah, honestly, potentially.
00:43:18.740 Like a town hall?
00:43:19.600 Yes, a town hall
00:43:20.700 or Trump administration.
00:43:21.340 Fireside chats.
00:43:22.220 And do Q&As.
00:43:24.020 Q&As, fireside chats.
00:43:25.180 What about, wait, wait,
00:43:26.740 fireside live streams?
00:43:27.860 I love it.
00:43:28.940 I love it.
00:43:29.600 I mean, just listening
00:43:30.640 to Generation Z,
00:43:31.660 you saw them shift route
00:43:33.420 more than any other time
00:43:34.140 in American history in 2024.
00:43:35.860 And that Pat Buchanan mindset,
00:43:37.280 going out and saying,
00:43:38.560 this is what we're going to do,
00:43:39.440 we're listening to the people,
00:43:40.320 and this is the action
00:43:40.920 that we're going to take,
00:43:42.080 that new mindset
00:43:43.120 is the only way
00:43:44.260 to not only win
00:43:45.460 Generation Z
00:43:46.240 because it's conservative,
00:43:48.000 but keep them conservative.
00:43:49.360 And that's what has to be.
00:43:50.060 You know, he's got,
00:43:50.460 Trump's got a huge TikTok account.
00:43:52.660 Yes.
00:43:53.040 He's got a massive TikTok platform,
00:43:54.740 but has he ever done a live on there?
00:43:56.640 He needs to.
00:43:57.400 And he worked with Aiden Ross,
00:43:59.280 like whenever he went
00:43:59.820 on that live stream.
00:44:00.460 Yeah, he's gone on other ones.
00:44:01.560 Yeah, he's never hosted one himself.
00:44:02.520 But he hasn't hosted one himself.
00:44:03.540 And he would be amazing.
00:44:04.680 Somebody, Cliff,
00:44:05.640 we've got to call Bruzovitz
00:44:06.640 and we're going to take care of this.
00:44:09.160 Yes.
00:44:09.540 Get on there.
00:44:10.820 Get Barron in there, right?
00:44:12.600 Yes.
00:44:12.780 Get Barron in there.
00:44:13.660 Absolutely.
00:44:13.840 He's back in the White House.
00:44:15.240 I know he met.
00:44:15.740 Fire.
00:44:16.700 Let me give credit to Poso.
00:44:19.200 Fireside live streams
00:44:20.580 right here at the MAGA,
00:44:22.580 what did you call us?
00:44:23.260 The Monster Mash?
00:44:24.100 MAGA Monster Mash.
00:44:25.000 MAGA Monster Mash.
00:44:25.720 Yeah, the MAGA Monster Mash
00:44:26.880 on Friday night.
00:44:27.660 We have to do this on Fridays.
00:44:29.360 Oh, yeah.
00:44:29.680 Anytime.
00:44:30.280 Because, you know,
00:44:31.180 think about it, right?
00:44:32.040 You know, you just do,
00:44:33.120 and by the way,
00:44:34.060 that's got to be one
00:44:34.980 where he's got to,
00:44:36.540 you've got to take that incoming.
00:44:38.060 Denegate.
00:44:38.420 You've got to take that incoming.
00:44:39.820 You've got to be open
00:44:40.660 and, you know,
00:44:42.380 show that you have the ability,
00:44:44.620 that you're listening.
00:44:45.680 Show that you're listening.
00:44:46.500 I would even suggest go,
00:44:47.960 you know,
00:44:49.280 go to places, right?
00:44:50.720 Set up listening tours
00:44:52.020 and make it so it's Gen Z.
00:44:54.420 Go and meet people
00:44:55.040 where they're at.
00:44:55.700 Yeah.
00:44:55.900 Legit, like physically
00:44:56.900 and with live streams
00:44:58.000 on that platform.
00:44:58.440 You can set it up on a college campus.
00:44:59.320 Yes.
00:44:59.500 You can set it up,
00:45:01.000 you know,
00:45:01.400 something like that
00:45:02.180 where you're just going in.
00:45:04.180 And we saw him do this.
00:45:05.360 We saw him do this
00:45:06.020 to great effect in 2024
00:45:07.220 where he was going
00:45:08.840 to these places
00:45:09.600 and setting it all up.
00:45:12.600 And it was,
00:45:13.320 it was just great.
00:45:14.580 I think it was great.
00:45:15.300 Well, and I think using,
00:45:16.400 like even some of the
00:45:17.100 administration officials
00:45:17.780 should be going out
00:45:18.340 and doing that.
00:45:18.740 Using alternative media
00:45:19.760 because that's how Generation Z
00:45:20.860 gets their news now.
00:45:21.900 They're not getting it
00:45:22.460 off of Fox News, CNN.
00:45:23.380 They're getting it off
00:45:23.800 of networks like this
00:45:25.200 and social media.
00:45:27.160 But there's no bigger influence.
00:45:28.940 People talk about
00:45:29.500 the Trump influencers, right?
00:45:31.320 There's no bigger
00:45:32.100 Trump influencer
00:45:32.860 than Donald Trump.
00:45:33.700 Exactly.
00:45:34.320 Exactly.
00:45:34.820 And him utilizing
00:45:35.920 those kinds of tools,
00:45:37.520 I think,
00:45:37.920 would do so much effect.
00:45:40.040 I mean,
00:45:40.180 you said he's following
00:45:40.860 TikTok.
00:45:41.880 That's directly
00:45:42.440 sticking to Generation Z.
00:45:43.080 Actually, one of the best ones
00:45:43.740 that he did
00:45:44.340 the other night,
00:45:46.320 I forget,
00:45:46.780 was it Monday Night Football
00:45:47.600 or the other night
00:45:48.660 and he was in the booth?
00:45:49.420 He was live
00:45:50.280 commentating the game.
00:45:51.340 Like this third and seven.
00:45:52.800 That was great.
00:45:53.120 That was great.
00:45:54.340 Stuff like that
00:45:56.020 where you're just
00:45:56.580 out in the culture.
00:45:58.240 And he loves it anyway.
00:45:59.180 And look,
00:46:00.900 as a guy
00:46:01.780 from the Philadelphia area,
00:46:03.400 let me tell you something.
00:46:04.260 The people love football.
00:46:06.680 From the SEC?
00:46:07.860 SEC, right.
00:46:08.960 Go Vols.
00:46:09.940 I'm a season ticket holder.
00:46:10.860 I'd love to see him
00:46:11.400 attend the SEC football games.
00:46:13.080 Go out and meet,
00:46:13.940 go to the,
00:46:14.380 say the Pedgeville agents
00:46:16.220 or something.
00:46:16.820 Go to these games
00:46:17.320 and be involved.
00:46:17.760 Because Pete would go down.
00:46:18.820 Pete Hegseth.
00:46:19.380 Oh yeah,
00:46:19.780 that's the first time
00:46:20.560 I met Pete Hegseth.
00:46:21.280 He's a Philadelphia fan
00:46:22.360 like me.
00:46:23.100 And he went down there
00:46:23.720 and he was smoking his cigars
00:46:24.820 with his comment.
00:46:25.380 He didn't even sit at the skybox.
00:46:26.560 He was in the crowd
00:46:27.760 watching his team win.
00:46:29.000 Maybe we got to get
00:46:30.560 the Secretary of War
00:46:31.680 to bring POTUS down there.
00:46:33.500 Absolutely.
00:46:34.120 Hold some listening sessions,
00:46:35.660 be with the people.
00:46:36.560 Look,
00:46:36.780 I get it.
00:46:37.740 It's a job,
00:46:39.920 but it's the greatest job
00:46:40.840 in the world.
00:46:41.460 Guys,
00:46:41.800 did we lose Cliff?
00:46:42.960 Did Cliff go down?
00:46:44.280 I'm here
00:46:44.660 if you guys can hear me.
00:46:45.560 I got a message
00:46:47.140 that we lost you for a sec.
00:46:48.400 Cliff,
00:46:48.720 we're just about out.
00:46:49.700 Where can people go
00:46:50.320 to keep up
00:46:51.600 with all of your travels
00:46:52.980 and everything you're doing?
00:46:54.780 On X at Maloney.
00:46:56.300 On X at Maloney.
00:46:57.400 Post so I'm going to come back.
00:46:58.380 We got some big announcements
00:46:59.280 for 2026.
00:47:00.560 We're just getting started.
00:47:01.620 We'll be here, man.
00:47:02.520 Kenny Cody,
00:47:02.960 where can people follow you?
00:47:03.700 They can follow me
00:47:04.020 at Katie Cody TN
00:47:05.080 on True Social and X
00:47:06.720 and go find me
00:47:07.320 on humanevents.com
00:47:08.280 for all of our opinion columns.
00:47:09.460 It's cool you came in today, man.
00:47:10.500 Awesome.
00:47:10.560 First time, first time.
00:47:11.400 All right, all right.
00:47:13.100 Ladies and gentlemen,
00:47:13.820 as always,
00:47:14.360 you have my permission
00:47:15.080 to lay ashore.