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00:02:12.400President Trump says he isn't standing down from his refusal to facilitate the return of a man from Maryland, mistakenly deported and sent to a notorious Salvadorian prison.
00:02:22.300Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live, Washington, D.C.
00:02:28.920Today is April 16th, 2025, Anno Domini.
00:02:33.700Well, folks, the Maryland man hoax is breaking.
00:02:36.900Senator Chris Van Hollen has just landed, I guess, in El Salvador, where he's on his way out to, I suppose he's on his way for a special visit with Abrego Garcia.
00:02:49.900You know, he's he's there. I don't know if this is one of those, you know, visits with special benefits.
00:02:55.520You know, maybe it's more of a first aid kind of thing.
00:03:01.740So we'll see just how high his standards, if any, are.
00:03:06.220But the entire left is going in on this.
00:03:08.980The entire media, this this massive political stunt is going on.
00:03:12.180And it is a political stunt, to be sure, by the way, this also proves once again that the Democrats are far better at political theater than Republicans, than conservatives, than even sometimes.
00:03:24.400Look, we couldn't even get a guy to go to Fort Knox.
00:03:26.600We couldn't even get a guy to go to Fort Knox.
00:03:29.220But the Democrats will go all the way down to El Salvador.
00:03:32.080The only problem is, of course, once again, the Democrats are supporting a criminal.
00:03:39.420Yes, whether it's Luigi Maggioni or Carmelo Anthony or now Abrego Garcia, the Democrats just can't quit their love affair with criminals.
00:03:49.920And, of course, as we've been explaining for years at this point, this is part of a playbook.
00:03:56.980The problem is, of course, the Democrats have been running around saying, oh, this, you know, this guy, he's so sweet.
00:04:05.240But unfortunately, that's not the case, because his wife, who's out there giving all of these pleas, saying, please donate to our GoFundMe, please donate to our GoFundMe.
00:04:13.400She actually filed a restraining order on him in the state of Maryland.
00:04:20.160Kind of funny, by the way, how the entire media couldn't figure this out, and a local Maryland blog was able to pull it up, the Chesapeake Times.
00:04:29.780And so they're able to get it up, but nobody in the entire media was able to pull this together.
00:04:37.060She says she wants him home, and yet she kicked him out of the home and filed a restraining order on him.
00:04:44.020Or maybe, just maybe, it's all the money that's rolling in because she saw the money rolling in for Carmelo Anthony's family that they're using to buy new cars, that they're using to get a new house.
00:04:56.260And she thinks, I want to get some of that for myself.
00:05:00.160It's disgusting, but understand, what you're looking at is a parasitic operation and a playbook that's been in place for a long, long time.
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00:06:55.260We've got to talk about all this stuff, the GoFundMes, the gives and goes, the massive fraud that's going on in America, the Democrats going all in on all of this.
00:07:07.640He's the pin editor of humanevents.com.
00:07:10.760Kenny, walk me through, just on this case of the Maryland man hoax, do the Democrats really think that this is their best argument going into the midterms?
00:07:22.100Is this really what they want to make the conversation all about?
00:07:25.600Well, it seems like they are playing the entire George Floyd card way too much.
00:07:31.020I think they think it's going to have the same amount of racial division.
00:07:35.040I think it's going to have the same amount of grifting from these families that's wanting to contribute to these criminals.
00:07:39.800And Carmelo Anthony and Garcia both are criminals that deserve the punishment they got.
00:07:45.960Anthony actually has leniency considering they lay my $250,000 bone.
00:07:49.760His bone is usually a million dollars.
00:07:51.600And that shows the impact that they want to continue to have on the judicial system and the political system.
00:07:56.820They want to continue to divide and continue to grift and paint Republicans, conservatives out and want people out to be just inherently racist.
00:08:05.940The Trump administration is racist because they're deporting somebody who's protected and associated with MS-13.
00:08:12.000When Trump signed an executive order designating MS-13 as a terrorist organization to take action against MS-13, he has the outright right to absolutely deport this guy if he is associated with a terrorist organization.
00:08:28.060Just like if anybody was associated with Al-Qaeda, anybody was associated with any – and with ISIS, any terrorist organization, we'd have the right to deport them or originally where they were from and prosecute them.
00:08:40.380And Carmelo Anthony should be scrutinized as much as anybody because he killed Austin Metcalfe in cold blood all over a seating arrangement.
00:08:49.100The fact that they are trying to die on this hill, Republicans should be willing to call them how they're aligned with criminals, how they continue to be aligned with crime.
00:08:57.800But unfortunately, Republicans aren't strong enough to paint them out to be the crime-embracing evil tyrants that they are.
00:09:07.360And so this is what we've talked about for so long.
00:09:12.020We call this the system of anarcho-tyranny.
00:09:14.060We talked about this in the book on humans, secret history of communist revolutions, how to crush them, that it's anarchy for you, the law-abiding citizen.
00:09:24.340That's why the violent predators are let out of jail.
00:10:14.340And by the way, I'm not going to say that I've seen high-level Democrats defending Carmelo Anthony, but you certainly do see a lot of Democrats and a lot of activists and a lot of BLM types defending him and raising money for him.
00:11:20.000These Democrats, by the way, Kenny, they can't even tell you the name of the guy who was just convicted of murdering her.
00:11:26.000It's completely upside down, but I really do think that it's the identity politics and the wokeness that the Democrats have married themselves to that has completely hijacked their entire party.
00:11:39.360And it's Republicans' fault that we're not aligning them with the choice that they're making.
00:11:44.100Democrats are aligning with criminals.
00:11:45.940They're aligning with Carmela Anthony.
00:11:47.200They're aligning with Garcia, and they're aligning with any criminal as long as they expose them and to make sure Republicans look bad, whether it's on illegal immigration, whether it's race relations, whether it's black versus white.
00:11:57.980They're always going to side with the minorities that they think that they can use for political pulley.
00:12:03.020They want to bring Garcia back so he can vote for them, so his family can vote for them.
00:12:07.940They want to ensure that Carmela Anthony is protected so his family and those that align and sympathize with him through racial division vote for them.
00:12:15.920This is a political ploy in order to convince minorities to vote Democratic.
00:12:22.800This is something that is ever occurring with the Democratic Party.
00:12:26.300They do not care to make white people look bad.
00:12:28.720They don't care to make Republicans look bad.
00:12:30.240They don't care to make conservatives look bad as long as they can capitalize and racially divide the country and then ensure that their voters are brought in to continue to ensure that minorities vote for them en masse with African Americans, with Hispanics.
00:12:48.660They know that Hispanics are now inherently voting for Republicans and coming over to the conservative side, but they want to ensure that they can make Republicans out there.
00:12:55.880They're going to deport all Hispanics.
00:12:58.320They're going to deport and ensure even if they're technically from Maryland, even though this guy is associated with him as 13, they're going to make it about immigrant versus American.
00:13:07.700And instead of ensuring and paying them for aligning with crime, which is that what Republicans ran on in 2024 is anti-crime.
00:13:14.720They assured they got elected to political office, but now at the risk of them being painted as racist, they're not going to be willing to speak on issues such as Garcia and such as Carmela Anthony,
00:13:23.240because Republicans continue to be weak and Democrats continue to use identity politics to win elections and to win the narrative battle.
00:13:36.460Republicans should actually embrace a little bit more political theater.
00:13:40.280Now, certainly you saw President Trump do this when he brought the angel moms forward.
00:13:45.600And I'm not saying, by the way, political theater for as in terms of stunts.
00:13:49.300I mean, actually doing things that benefit real American victims of illegal immigration, naming just the Jocelyn Nungary wildlife preserve down there in the Gulf of America,
00:14:02.440going out and bringing forward these angel moms and rally after rally, having them at the White House, et cetera.
00:14:08.620These are things that are good, by the way, that are done, but you don't really see the Republican senators.
00:14:14.540You don't see the Republican establishment guys.
00:15:17.840Now, one of the things that, by the way, I wanted to say that I mentioned the Chesapeake Daily.
00:15:23.060It's actually Chesapeake Today that had that blog on Jennifer Vasquez earlier and Abrago Garcia's wife who filed for domestic violence against him.
00:15:35.360I think there's actually multiple filings at this point that go back several years.
00:15:39.900So, one of the things that a lot of people have pointed out, they say, what about the Supreme Court ruling?
00:15:45.580And I think that's something that a lot of people are saying, wait a minute, wait a minute, that's really rocketed this back into the headlines because the story had kind of died down when it came out that this guy was, in fact, an illegal alien and a member of MS-13.
00:15:56.600And people have said, well, it's 9-0, and I've seen the TikToks running around.
00:16:08.760Number one, the original deportation order is still in place.
00:16:13.760What they don't understand is, is that the ruling that came out on the original deportation order regarding his quote-unquote asylum claim, which wasn't even really an asylum claim, it was a protection from violence claim, was that he couldn't be deported to El Salvador.
00:16:31.440So he could still be deported, just not to El Salvador.
00:16:34.260That's what they would need another hearing on if he were to come back.
00:16:37.800That's the only other piece of this that's part of the puzzle.
00:16:42.100He can still be deported because the deportation order is still valid.
00:16:45.760The other part of it is, the judge at the district level ruled that the Trump administration must bring him back.
00:16:53.040And actually, the phrase that was used was facilitate and effectuate.
00:16:58.200Well, the Supreme Court had a sort of dual ruling where they said, you can say that the Trump administration needs to facilitate this because of the administrative issue,
00:17:08.000but also, you cannot effectuate his return to the United States because the court system is the judiciary.
00:17:18.160The judiciary cannot demand that the president go to a foreign country, right, El Salvador, foreign country,
00:17:26.000and demand that one of their citizens who is in their custody, locked up under their laws, be released to the United States when the man has no right to be here at all.
00:17:37.900So, Kenny Cody, we're on with you from humanevents.com, the opinion editor.
00:17:43.560There's just been so much misinformation about this case, just like the Carmelo Anthony case.
00:17:49.760The Dems just can't seem to stick with the truth, can they?
00:17:54.480No, and I think that's a very important distinction.
00:17:57.180You know, all diplomacy, all foreign policy, anything that has to do with any other country,
00:18:01.600especially when it's a citizen or a non-citizen that is originally from El Salvador,
00:18:06.780we don't have any jurisdiction over that, and the executive branch can decide, hey, if we want to bring him back, they can.
00:18:12.160And if they want to work out a deal, you know, like the Brittany Griner case or anything like that,
00:18:16.000they can choose to do that, but they are not forced to.
00:18:19.200And I think that's an important distinction.
00:18:21.340The Trump administration isn't violating federal law.
00:18:23.560It isn't violating a judicial decision.
00:18:25.240It isn't going against the Supreme Court because they are in heat that Garcia is now in El Salvador's custody.
00:18:31.800And El Salvador now is a pretty tough-on-crime country because of their new president, Kelly,
00:18:36.200and I think that's an important distinction there.
00:18:38.580They can do with him what they want to.
00:18:43.280He's a Maryland resident, but he's not technically a United States citizen.
00:18:46.660So he is now back in his country of origin.
00:18:49.820They have complete jurisdiction over that, and diplomacy is handled by the executive branch.
00:18:54.060That's why it's important to designate a difference in executive powers, a distinction with checks and balances and the separation of powers.
00:19:02.600The executive branch has every single route in the world to deport him under this executive order that is targeting MS-13 gang members
00:19:09.300that have been designated as a terrorist organization.
00:19:12.360He is now back to his country of origin, and they will do with him what they will.
00:19:17.200President Trump and his administration, nor any department under Homeland Security or anything else,
00:19:22.300can be forced to facilitate his return now that he has gone from the country.
00:19:26.140It is up to El Salvador to deal with him, not us.
00:19:28.660And that's an important narrative that the mainstream media, Democrats, and even a lot of Republicans are missing out on.
00:19:33.460At the end of the day, Kenny, Cody, and we just got about a minute to the break, all of this for an illegal alien,
00:19:42.140is this really what the Democrats want to make the argument about going into the midterms?
00:19:46.260I know he's still a little ways away, but at the end of the day, this is what the American people voted for.
00:19:51.920You wanted mass deportations, and President Trump is delivering exactly that.
00:19:57.040We should allow the Democrats to overplay their hand like they did with the George Floyd case,
00:20:02.500like they did with the January 6th nonsense.
00:20:05.040Let them overplay their hand with Garcia and Carmelo Anthony,
00:20:08.600and Republicans should be actually willing to stand up and say,
00:20:11.140Democrats align with crime, Democrats side with criminals over American citizens and peace and prosperity,
00:20:16.880and we should allow them to overplay their hand like they have so many times in the past,
00:20:20.880if conservatives and Republicans are willing to stand for it.
00:24:52.140Now, we've also seen, by the way, China, I've been tracking the ASEAN meeting.
00:24:55.940China, of course, going down, meeting with ASEAN, of course, Malaysia, who they've had a ton of deals with in the past, but also Vietnam.
00:25:03.320And Vietnam is a huge piece of this because a lot of the manufacturing that was moved out of China, they called it nearshoring.
00:25:09.840But it wasn't really because they just moved it south to Vietnam, who has been a, you know, certainly a longtime antagonist for China.
00:25:17.160But having Xi Jinping go down there and really point out and sign a lot of new trade deals with the Vietnamese, I think, shows that China is making big moves.
00:25:28.580This is the first time, by the way, that Xi Jinping has gone to ASEAN.
00:25:32.080Typically, China sends a lower level delegation, but the fact that he was there himself shows to me that China actually is taking this very seriously because they want to pretend as if they don't have as much exposure to the expert markets as they want us to think.
00:25:49.700And they say, oh, we have this, you know, burgeoning Chinese middle class.
00:25:52.280We'll be able to sell things domestically and internally.
00:25:54.820And I just don't quite think that's the case, is it?
00:26:00.440And the funny thing, that's, you know, that's what the United States has been pushing them toward.
00:26:04.700It's been saying, if you want to be a good participant in a global economy, you can't just be producing enormous amounts of stuff that you dump onto the market, into other markets.
00:26:15.780You need to have your consumers buying more of Chinese made stuff.
00:26:19.960And then you need to have your consumers buying more stuff from around the world.
00:26:24.100And so far, China has just shown no willingness to do that.
00:26:27.640In fact, right now, you know, some folks are saying the world is going through kind of a China shock 2.0, a whole nother unprecedented wave of additional manufacturing that is kind of flooding global markets.
00:26:41.960And so, you know, I think the reality is that at the end of the day, this isn't going to be everybody sides with the U.S. and China is isolated and alone.
00:26:55.680It has countries like, you know, Vietnam that are very much dependent on it in various ways.
00:27:02.120And that may be part of what happens in the long run.
00:27:04.920What the United States can't tolerate any longer is what we've had going on where, you know, we say, well, we need to keep China at a distance, but Mexico is our trading partner and Mexico welcomes China in.
00:27:18.040And so now all the Chinese stuff just comes to us, let's say, through Mexico.
00:27:21.640And so what I think the Trump administration is really focused on is saying we want to have strong alliances.
00:27:26.780We want to have free trade with our partners, but they all need to hold hands with us, both on having fair and balanced trade amongst ourselves and on all agreeing that China and China's way of doing business is not welcome.
00:27:40.100Look, you know, it's actually something that I find it so funny because, you know, Gavin Newsom is out there and he's suing the Trump administration now regarding tariffs on behalf of California.
00:27:52.160And it's like, not that long ago, it was the Democrats and it was the left that were opposing China.
00:28:00.320They were the ones, go back to 1999, that were loudly and in some cases violently.
00:28:05.060In the case of you had these far leftists, the Antifa, the whole Battle of Seattle.
00:28:31.620And now you turn things around and suddenly it's like it's the, you know, sort of former Democrats turned Republicans like Donald Trump.
00:28:39.200Like Elon Musk, like many others that are now coming around and saying, well, not that Elon is a super tariff guy.
00:28:45.140I don't mean to say that, but I just mean to say that you're seeing a lot of Democrats become Republicans.
00:28:49.060But they're bringing this idea of Peter Navarro, former Democrat, by the way, bringing this idea, California Democrat, bringing this idea of protectionism back online.
00:29:00.940And I wanted to also mention, you know, you have a whole new book out that's coming out, The Once and Future Worker.
00:29:07.200And that's exactly what you're talking about here.
00:29:09.240It's this idea of actually working on having government work on behalf of American workers.
00:29:13.720Yeah, the switch that you're describing in the political parties is something we're seeing going on in so many ways that as the Democratic Party becomes much more aligned with, you know, the highest income, college-educated workforce in big cities.
00:29:32.060And you're seeing the working class move much more into the Republican Party, and that's playing out in all sorts of ways, right?
00:29:39.460You're seeing labor unions starting to align a little bit more with the Republican Party, and Republicans reach out to labor unions.
00:29:46.780You're seeing on these trade issues, in all sorts of ways, the Democratic Party, especially because they just cannot bring themselves to agree with Trump ever about anything, find themselves, if Trump does something that's good for workers, well, then the Democrats are going to be against it.
00:30:04.920And, you know, I had Congressman Jared Golden, he's a Democrat from rural Maine.
00:30:09.480He was on the American podcast, excuse me, the American Compass podcast, talking with me last week, because he's a big supporter of these tariffs.
00:30:17.920And he sees it's not about which party or, you know, which president is promoting them.
00:30:22.040He thinks they can really help workers in his district.
00:30:25.260And he's getting attacked, all these other Democrats.
00:30:29.180He says, wait, I thought this is what we were for, but there are too many Democrats out there that are now just for being against Donald Trump.
00:30:36.860And if Trump is going to do things that that that is good for workers, it's going to push Democrats into a worse position in a lot of ways.
00:30:45.940You know, that's a great example, you know, the industrial northeast.
00:30:48.980I've got I've got family up there, by the way, Sanford, Maine, and that that whole area in that it's very post industrial down to Portsmouth, New Hampshire, where the Navy Yards are in that whole area of New England, which used to be this this huge textile hub.
00:31:03.500It was a shipmaking hub. Of course, this is something, by the way, that J.D. Vance has talked about again and again, our shipbuilding capacity.
00:31:11.140That's what New England was famous for.
00:31:13.040By the way, even in colonial times, it was known for shipbuilding.
00:31:18.020That's why, by the way, that New England has that shipbuilding base up there, because that's exactly what they did.
00:31:24.240That's literally why it's called New England.
00:31:26.020And so much of the manufacturing and trade that went through there has completely been gutted by these practices.
00:31:33.120And I think it's something where I've spent a lot of time in Maine.
00:33:10.640Oren, where can people get the book and where can they follow you for more?
00:33:14.780Once a Future Worker is available wherever books are sold.
00:33:18.160We also have a new book coming out next month called The New Conservatives that really kind of tells the story of what's going on with the way the right of center is thinking about stuff.
00:33:31.960I write a Substack called Understanding America.
00:33:33.880Understanding America, folks, go give Oren Kass a follow.
00:33:40.140If you're looking for someone who really lays this out, who really goes deep in the weeds, go check out his book as well, because he walks you through everything that's going on and what the Trump administration and the new agenda is all about.
00:35:21.260It's burning up the cybernet, the internet waves, if you will.
00:35:25.120And so there's an interesting situation that's going on with the family.
00:35:32.320And people are starting to ask questions about the lavish spending that the family seems to be doing or seems to have been involved with.
00:35:39.400Even though the father, we're told, has taken a leave of absence from where he worked as a finance manager at a car dealership where there's some talk about them moving.
00:35:53.180So they've raised all this money on give, send, go.
00:35:55.140And, you know, when I was on TimCast before and this whole debate came up, I said, look, I'm not against taking down legal defense funds because I believe that people should have the right to a legal defense.