00:10:39.520So when we're looking at this, it's really important, I think, from Charlie's perspective, or it was really important for him to try to explain, and of course he's using this graph as a way to explain to people who think that, because a lot of people, and we learned this in The Fourth Turning, which we also talk about in the book, that people tend to have their frame of reference from their childhood.
00:11:02.680And so if you grew up in the 1950s, you have a certain frame of reference, an America of
00:11:23.940And suddenly, the outcomes are not existent the way they were before.
00:11:28.740And so for everyone who's under 40, and this is really key, Joshua, because a lot of people, I think, when you talk to folks who are outside of this, who are outside of that world, they'll say, why are they so lazy? Why don't they just pull themselves up by their bootstraps?
00:11:46.940And it's like they don't even realize how much the ground has shifted for people under 40. That's what Charlie understood. That was the first step.0.78
00:11:56.160that's right and there is a certain inherent value for a civilization for a culture as charlie
00:12:02.620correctly pointed out to have men under 30 who are married and able to afford a home a few days
00:12:10.320ago i had a post pop-off where i grabbed just one snapshot of the last 10 years of housing prices in
00:12:17.080a neighborhood near me just barely 10 years ago housing prices for this safe middle-class
00:12:25.020neighborhood, great area, plenty of access to parks, perfect American suburbia. Housing prices
00:12:32.980for a great place to raise a family, $120,000 to $150,000. Almost completely forgotten by this
00:12:40.740point because houses in that neighborhood are triple that price here in 2026. And of course,
00:12:48.080money printer Gober has been a major problem with this, inflation, but also illegal immigration.
00:12:55.020under Biden and unfettered legal immigration. Also, when you have a simple supply and demand
00:13:02.320situation, more people moving in, more asset prices go up, rent goes up. That's the story
00:13:09.200of Springfield, Ohio, by the way, and how temporary protected status Haitians basically displaced a0.96
00:13:16.080local white working class population by their mere existence in flooding via an influx into0.57
00:13:22.160this city. That, of course, is why Charlie Kirk's plan for defeating young socialists is so focused0.60
00:13:28.700on deportation and turning the tap of immigration flow off. And something else that the late great
00:13:36.540influencer Scott Adams, whom we lost earlier this year, he had the simple reframe. Who decides who
00:13:43.020gets to be in America? Americans or anyone else? He gave the example of Nicaraguans coming from0.95
00:13:49.180Nicaragua. Who gets to decide who's in America? Americans or the Nicaraguans who want to come0.92
00:13:54.940here? Run the same sample for Haitians or Somalis, etc. The point being is the American birthright0.94
00:14:04.460that was promised to centennials like Poso, to millennials and Gen Z like myself and Charlie
00:14:11.140Kirk and another fellow who's a turning point man, the Ohio turning point man named Gabe
00:14:16.160Guinnarini. He's a Zoomer. Everyone points out that the America that we were promised,
00:14:22.9009-11 happens and it is effectively granted to the developing world or to the underdeveloped world.
00:14:29.180And domestic policy priority takes a significant backseat to foreign policy and the
00:14:35.040supranationalist ideology where we have to go grant freedom and democracy and such and such
00:14:41.780various rights to everywhere else in the world, meanwhile, leaving our own people
00:14:46.520forgotten. And we wonder why socialism is on the rise. You know, socialists are promising
00:14:51.800free housing, free groceries, free health care. What are conservatives promising, Jack?
00:14:57.920That's exactly right. And Charlie, there's a line that we pulled from Charlie's last Tucker
00:15:03.860interview, where he talked about this, that he said, political radicalization is going to seep
00:15:10.100in because an entire generation is getting routinely cynical year after year as their
00:15:15.140net worth either stays at zero or goes into negative. We know how to create wealth, but we
00:15:20.680don't know how to create it for the generation that needs it the most. If you look at the economic
00:15:25.340conditions, you would think the other conditions surrounding it are abject poverty. These are the
00:15:29.980problems that third world nations have are young people can't afford stuff and they have to finance
00:15:35.060basic necessities. And he says this is a distress signal by young people saying, hey, if you're not
00:15:41.340going to fix our life economically, we're going to get very radical politically. And this is,
00:15:47.220of course, what we have been talking about for years at this point and we get into in Unhumans
00:15:51.720is the idea that you are either going to get MAGA or Mondani, MAGA or Mangione. And this means you
00:15:59.900will either have nationalist populist reform to your economy or you will get political radicalism
00:16:06.900and by the way gabe who you just mentioned there is is a phenomenal phenomenal uh writer a phenomenal
00:16:12.500activist someone who absolutely gets it he does yes and gabe was so kind as to offer to myself
00:16:21.160rich barris and i in our upcoming book uh burn it down the following which i i love to read you all
00:16:26.860because this sets the tone of where Americans are at right now.
00:16:30.960From the Forward by Gabe Gitterini, excellent follow on Twitter.
00:16:34.700He is the future of the Republican Party in Ohio.
00:16:37.900We are the last American generation raised in a story that has already reached the end.
00:16:43.020My generation bore first witness to the triumph of what might be called quantitative politics, Gabe says,
00:16:49.600which, put simply, is the belief that a civilization can be governed as one governs a spreadsheet or a ledger
00:21:03.800I'm going to get on back here with Joshua Lysak, and we're talking about the economic instability in the under-40 crowd.
00:21:12.380And Joshua, that was quite an astute point you actually just made right there where – because we're going through the Charlie Kirk strategy for defeating young socialists.
00:21:19.920And you were talking about the fact that with young women, the rise of only fans is in part an economic need.
00:21:29.080They're seeking out an economic stability.
00:21:32.160They're seeking out an economic source of revenue and income that for a variety of reasons, they're not finding with young men.
00:21:40.220And of course, this is in turn destroying the fabric of the men and women joining together, which is which in turn destroys families because you don't have family formation.
00:21:50.500We don't have so many of these things. And and it's amazing how and Charlie was exactly right when he pointed this out.
00:21:58.000And that's why we've taken this strategy and published it in on humans is that a lot of this is driven by the economics of the situation.
00:22:06.420And so for folks scratching their heads saying, why are there so many young girls getting on OnlyFans?
00:22:33.600No, I'm not saying that's all OnlyFans.
00:22:36.420very clear about that. There's a lot of problems with OnlyFans. However, the point is there are
00:22:42.080economic drivers that tend to go unnoticed in these conversations. Yes, that's right. And part
00:22:48.600of the marketing for OnlyFans has been these women who are in late teens, early 20s pointing out,0.98
00:22:55.220I bought my first apartment in downtown San Francisco. I have a beautiful view of Midtown
00:23:01.040from this new york penthouse and i'm an only fans creator these sorts of uh sort of um let's say
00:23:07.040demonstrations of material success and i did it after x number of months or years on only fans
00:23:13.040and so we have this unfortunate downward spiral cycle between men and women and there's lots of
00:23:20.720complaints in the dating situation and the gender discourse and charlie was very good at pointing
00:23:25.020all of these things out but in this situation it seems like the cultural malaise the gender
00:23:30.480discourse, et cetera, is actually downstream of economics. When you have more women who are0.98
00:23:35.160getting more advanced degrees now, approximately 60% of college graduates now are women. And1.00
00:23:40.720conservative-minded or at least traditional American-minded women are looking for a husband0.99
00:23:45.780who can be the protector and the provider, et cetera. But there's more women who are higher1.00
00:23:51.400earning than men available. We have an unfortunate low supply. So women are effectively having to1.00
00:23:58.720fend for themselves in this capacity. And so what are ways that one can in situations where1.00
00:24:06.980basic necessities, groceries, are more and more expensive? Housing prices are going crazy. In some
00:24:13.900markets like mine, less than 10 years, housing prices have tripled. Of course, politics is part
00:24:20.380of this with unfettered immigration, millions upon millions of illegal immigrants still in this
00:24:25.040country, although the Department of Homeland Security under President Trump are doing a good
00:24:28.920job of shipping, for example, Haitians back home. Remigration is compassionate, safe, and effective1.00
00:24:35.000because everyone deserves to live in a society in which they belong, like the Haitians and among0.92
00:24:39.580their own kind. That said- Well, and Joshua, Joshua, hold on. Let's unpack that as well,1.00
00:24:45.100because what we're saying here, and to put a pin in it, right, on the OnlyFans question,0.90
00:24:50.240Obviously, toxic feminism, Marxism, they all play roles in wanting the subversion of these things.
00:24:57.600But to your point as well, when it comes down to wanting the Haitians gone, when it comes down to wanting the H-1Bs gone and the H-2Bs and the J-1s and the F-1 to 14s, all the different visas that are out there, this isn't just xenophobia.
00:25:15.240This isn't just saying their cultures are incompatible, which is also true, indeed, with the Somalian and other African migrants as well.
00:25:24.880The issue is also one of economics, isn't it?
00:25:30.480And in the Unhumans book, particularly in the second edition, the expanded version with the 14 new chapters, we basically doubled the length of the book, as many of you all will see.
00:25:40.060we point out how in society after society over the last 250 years where is economic communism
00:25:47.420and socialist promises where do they fall on deaf ears where people have a path to the middle class
00:25:54.840when the underclass and when the working class have ladders when they have opportunities presented
00:26:00.620to them when the elite in the society have a sense of noblesse oblige where it's their
00:26:05.780responsibility. I think Dolly Parton was a fantastic example of this, having a heart for
00:26:10.600her community in eastern Tennessee, in greater Appalachia, and throughout the United States,
00:26:15.260using her success parlaying that into opportunities for the young to learn to read and to adore the
00:26:21.740arts and to become successful and find their own path to success. When our elite are instead
00:26:27.360worrying about the prices of Rolex watches or building a new data center, let's say, and how
00:26:33.000money tax breaks they're going to get for that. When those sorts of things go viral, that tells
00:26:38.420the youth, that tells the working class and the underclass, the graduates with master's degrees
00:26:44.440but can't get an entry-level job in the STEM field because of overt anti-white, anti-male
00:26:50.120discrimination, which remains a problem. Harmeet Dillon is doing a good job of meeting some of
00:26:54.300that out. Socialism works in societies where capitalism appears to have failed. That is the
00:27:00.960bottom line here. Communism becomes popular when conservatism seems not to have answers. And
00:27:07.420Charlie understood this uniquely, that we, on the right, we have to pull down, not pull up,
00:27:14.300but pull down, let down a ladder of opportunity to the youth to get to college where necessary
00:27:20.720and to buy houses and get married, have kids, be Americans, make more Americans.
00:27:25.100really simple as that right back jack soviet human events daily
00:27:31.300one communist among the american advisors at yalta was one communist too many
00:27:55.100All right, folks, Jack Prasovic, we are back live, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
00:28:02.140We're on with Joshua Lysak, and we're talking about the new book, Unhuman Socialist Revolution,
00:28:08.220and specifically the chapter, and this is the theme of this entire episode, Charlie Kirk's
00:28:13.980Strategy for Defeating Young Socialists.
00:28:18.240So we're walking through how young people in America today are living through a very
00:28:23.640different economic situation and a very different situation on almost all levels than other people
00:28:30.240at different strata of age. And age is really something that you see a split here, but different
00:28:35.440income groups, you know, working class will see this as well, that many people in this society
00:28:40.700have never really recovered. Our society has never really recovered in certain strategy strata from
00:28:47.900the 2008 financial crisis. And this has created one, this K-shaped economy where one end is
00:28:56.660getting fabulously wealthy and the other end is stagnating and plateauing. And Charlie Kirk
00:29:03.560understood this. And yes, mass immigration is part of it. Yes, mass deportation and remigration,
00:29:09.680which we talk about at length in the book, not only for the United States, but also for Europe0.74
00:29:14.620is so absolutely key to the future, one of the key responses as well that Charlie talked about
00:29:23.240was this idea that we have to not only end illegal immigration, but also the vast amount of these
00:29:31.500legal immigration programs. He talked about housing. He talked about the housing moonshot
00:29:37.680was something that he talked about. Joshua, what was it about housing that Charlie understood was
00:29:42.780so important and particularly how does that compare to other socialist revolutions that
00:29:49.000we've seen in the past that have always been about oh things like land reform
00:29:53.800yes the unaffordability of quality housing has been an instigating factor in a number of
00:30:03.360communist revolutions not simply socialist movements and uprisings but outright communist
00:30:08.180revolutions. The Russian Revolution and the Chinese Revolution, specifically first under Mao,
00:30:15.020and then you had the Cultural Revolution that was subsequent to that. The Chinese Revolution was0.58
00:30:19.740kind of a multi-stage communist revolution. But also even in Rome, in the transition from a
00:30:25.780republic to an empire, there were a number of, let's say, peasant complaints about this situation.
00:30:32.320When people can't afford, when the masses can't afford quality housing, things begin to go very poorly for everyone involved, not simply the lower classes, the working class and the middle class, but also for the upper classes.
00:30:47.460Throughout history, when the delta between the rich and the poor has been the greatest, that civilization is under the greatest threat of being destroyed by some sort of revolutionary movement.
00:31:02.840We also saw this in France, of course.0.98
00:31:04.860But Charlie, first and foremost, understood that before you would get to the housing, you have to handle the immigration issue, the overpopulation of our country by, frankly, foreigners.0.96
00:31:15.520You have the mass deportations. We're seeing that already in Springfield, Ohio, fortunately. The Haitian deportation station is what the county has become. Stopping the H-1B scam, where Americans aren't learning about jobs that they're very much overqualified for.1.00
00:31:32.340But these positions are being granted to applicants from overseas, and there are a number of elaborate scams that have gone viral recently on how these scams are run by foreigners at the cost and to the detriment of Native American workers in those sectors.0.66
00:31:48.180We also must radically reduce legal immigration because, again, asset prices, specifically housing, can go down via a simple situation where there's a supply and demand.0.69
00:31:58.680Springfield saw this where there was between 25% and 100% housing cost increases for both homes and for rent when the Haitian influx, when tens of thousands of otherwise illegal Haitians invaded Springfield, Ohio, when there was the dogs, cats, and pets story.1.00
00:32:25.580And so long-term residents have been displaced and their American dream is gone.
00:32:30.980When you also end the chain migration and the visa lottery, when you end these things,
00:32:36.060you can get to a proper new housing price equilibrium.
00:32:40.580And then you can build new homes for Americans.
00:32:44.000Charlie's dream was the housing moonshot of 10 million new homes for Americans.
00:32:49.740Now, this has been executed poorly, in my opinion, in Springfield, where houses, there have been a number of new housing establishments and new neighborhoods that have been cut out of forests and made available.1.00
00:33:02.920But the price of these new houses reflects the inflated cost of housing due to the Haitian influx.0.98
00:33:10.560So your working class Americans can't afford all these new homes that are supposed to make the supply easier.0.98
00:33:17.660A talking point on the right amongst conservatives is that we need a small and limited but effective government.
00:33:24.500I believe, as a nationalist populist, that that's not exactly realistic.
00:33:29.700We can't simply let market factors decide things when those market factors are working against the interests of the vast majority of Americans under 30.
00:33:39.600Again, Charlie pointed out the social compact is if you were a good, righteous, upstanding citizen, if specifically if you were a male under 30, then you can get married in this country and you can buy a house.
00:33:52.580And we went from about just over 50 percent of all male Americans under 30 being able to get married and have a house in 1950.
00:34:00.500And now we're right around 10 percent.
00:39:33.220It was one of the very last things that Charlie handed to us.
00:39:37.940And one of the things that he was working on day in, day out was this plan, this strategy to defeat young socialists, because he saw it.
00:39:46.980He saw the pervasiveness of the socialist ideas in the youth, and he wanted to meet it head on.
00:39:53.440And I've always said this about Charlie is that he understood the same way that Mondami did about where the under 40 voter was coming from.
00:40:05.540But when you look at Charlie and Mondami, age to age, not too different, not too dissimilar, 31, 34 at the time.
00:40:16.440But you look in terms of the program, the political program that they were offering.
00:40:23.440Charlie was showing us a way that we could fix the system, reform it, chop away the things that were in people's paths and allow people to build themselves up, that we would build people up, build relationships up, build families up, build societies, communities and eventually rebuild our country.
00:40:43.520mandami is not that mandami has hatred of this country he has hatred of you he has hatred that
00:40:53.000is both ethnic it is geopolitical it is anger and by the way if you don't believe that it's ethnic
00:40:59.280well then you could have to go back to the video where i confronted him directly to his face
00:41:05.600in the white house where he said that he wanted to tax the white neighborhoods more0.69
00:41:12.580it's not complicated they just hate white people it's really not more complicated than that0.79
00:41:22.040that's why he wants to tear it down that's why he wants people he wants the suffering right this is0.81
00:41:30.260the unhumans playbook this is the unhumans lens and and joshua before we before we wrap up here
00:41:36.660We should mention that because what Charlie wants in his underlying goal is he wants everyone to be successful.
00:41:44.780He wants everyone to live in peace and everyone to have wealth, have equity in the American dream.
00:41:52.320He actually wants the suffering and the failure of individuals, doesn't he?
00:42:00.200People are worse off, they turn to the left.
00:42:03.300So that which accrues power for the left are those things that have resulted in wider spread suffering, spiritually, mentally, emotionally, turmoil, malaise.
00:42:15.680But what Charlie correctly pointed out was that when young people have access to the three M's, right, the three M's, Charlie talked about this, it is mortgage, it is marriage, and it is mating.
00:42:28.860And that's where the social compact comes in.
00:42:30.600You're able to get a house, and there are some things he talked about, like writing off of your entire mortgage payment on your house from your taxes.
00:42:39.020Something that you talked about, Jack, is this idea of no income tax for people who are earning under a six-figure salary, maybe under $100,000 per year, under $200,000 for a couple.
00:46:20.000I think those are just great policy for any society, especially the youth to say they
00:46:25.720have willingness and ability to get in.
00:46:28.780And if you don't have that, as we have seen, they will turn to the people who say, if you won't let us in the building, then we will simply burn it to the ground.
00:46:39.680That is the genesis of every single communist and communist and socialist uprising that we've ever seen.
00:46:47.480And guess what? We're in the middle of one right now.
00:46:50.100Joshua, tell people where they can go to follow you and everything you're working on.
00:46:54.400at joshua lysic on x you can see all manner of lysic products available on amazon right now
00:47:01.240should you search my name and of course i'm at lysic ghostwriting.com that's where most of my
00:47:06.340problems are no it's simply as it's simple as that it's as simple as that folks please go give
00:47:13.120joshua follow go and check him out make sure you're you're reading everything he's putting
00:47:19.340He's got like a dozen books out now, I think, just this year alone.
00:47:23.620So make sure you're co-authored with some great, great people out there.
00:47:28.320And I think that Charlie Kirk would absolutely have loved the fact that so many people are getting turned on,
00:47:38.980are getting activated, are getting organized, are making their voices heard.