Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - Islamic Influx： Reflecting On The American Outlook In A Post 9⧸11 World

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00:00:34.500 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:43.600 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:50.380 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:53.380 Christ is king!

00:00:55.000 The largest maritime evacuation in history did not happen at Dunkirk.

00:01:00.460 It happened in New York on September 11th.

00:01:04.140 Every bridge, tunnel, and subway out of Manhattan was shut.

00:01:09.120 Lower Manhattan is an island, and half a million people were trapped on it.

00:01:14.580 Coast Guard Lieutenant Michael Day got on the radio and put out one call.

00:01:19.080 All available boats, this is the United States Coast Guard.

00:01:21.700 and we want to help with the evacuation of lower Manhattan.

00:01:24.840 Report to Governor's Island.

00:01:26.780 Ferries came.

00:01:28.240 Tugboats.

00:01:29.460 Yachts.

00:01:30.620 Party boats.

00:01:32.040 Schooners.

00:01:33.680 One boat engineer put it this way. 0.71

00:01:36.400 If it floated and it could get there, it got there.

00:01:41.040 About 150 vessels and 600 mariners answered.

00:01:45.660 Ferry Captain Richard Thornton packed the Henry Hudson past its 399-person limit

00:01:51.800 and kept running until 6 that night.

00:01:55.940 Dunkirk moved 338,000 troops in nine days.

00:02:01.900 The boats of New York Harbor moved close to 500,000 people in nine hours.

00:02:09.260 None of them were ordered to go, but they went anyway.

00:02:12.860 The Mariners of the 9-11 Boatlift are American heroes.

00:02:42.860 It is the one-year anniversary of the murder and assassination of Charlie Kirk.

00:02:48.480 It is also the 25th anniversary of the 9-11 terrorist attacks.

00:02:55.620 And, you know, it's interesting talking to my boys last night about both of them,

00:03:04.100 um one of which obviously very close with charlie but then another one where it's obviously quite

00:03:12.420 just quite poignant in the sense that it's a national track i mean they're both national

00:03:15.980 tragedies but one one of which is not as personal to us uh that being the loss of the twin towers

00:03:21.740 the 9-11 terror attacks pentagon schwanksville and you know it's something where at home we uh

00:03:29.980 We even have a Lego set of the Twin Towers.

00:03:37.340 And when we were in Manhattan earlier this summer,

00:03:39.220 we went up for the 4th of July for the 250th.

00:03:41.560 We actually went to Ground Zero,

00:03:46.300 and I showed them the reflecting pools that are there,

00:03:51.740 the memorials,

00:03:53.320 and where they have all the names of those who were lost in New York.

00:03:58.360 and they've been asking quite a bit about it and some of the stories that i wanted to tell with

00:04:06.240 them the first responders the heroes of that day because there was a day that was a day of so much

00:04:15.320 evil and so much death and destruction and grief and i don't know that we as a country

00:04:25.900 have done enough to tell the stories of that day we we have the 9-11 the firefighter step climb

00:04:36.160 the firefighter climb 110 stories 50 pounds on their backs but the 9-11 boat lift is another

00:04:43.840 story that just isn't told we don't have movies about it we don't have um big hollywood pictures

00:04:51.220 about it of course hollywood doesn't make stories about things that are pro-america because

00:04:56.020 what was amazing about the 9-11 boat lift particular not just the firefighters as amazing

00:05:04.400 as they were and the police but the 9-11 boat lift that day coast guard got on the

00:05:13.400 the microphone, public channel.

00:05:16.700 This is the United States Coast Guard.

00:05:19.740 All boats.

00:05:22.920 If you are willing

00:05:24.200 to aid in the evacuation of Manhattan,

00:05:30.740 come at once.

00:05:34.020 And they say hundreds of boats

00:05:36.040 came as fast as they could.

00:05:40.460 They broke every regulation in the book.

00:05:43.400 They didn't pay attention to the rules.

00:05:45.660 They didn't pay attention to any of that stuff.

00:05:49.220 Many of the boats were actually already on their way.

00:05:53.800 And you had ferries and you had tugboats and yachts and personal boats and fishing boats.

00:06:00.820 And you said there were even some rubber dinghies.

00:06:04.580 Because think about it.

00:06:06.340 The bridges are shut down.

00:06:08.640 The subways are closed.

00:06:10.980 You got hell raining down on top of you.

00:06:13.400 Nobody knew what was happening with the buildings or other buildings.

00:06:19.860 And what did those captains do? 0.88

00:06:21.540 What did those boat drivers do?

00:06:24.600 They acted like Americans.

00:06:27.380 And they acted, in particular, like New Yorkers.

00:06:32.040 Real New Yorkers.

00:06:34.320 The kind of people that would do anything in their power to save the life of someone who needed it.

00:06:43.400 the american heroes of the boat lift of 9-11

00:06:50.640 regular people doing extraordinary things when called upon that's the definition of a hero

00:07:02.320 it's not superman flying around on his cape no it's regular people who are willing to put

00:07:09.600 themselves in harm's way for people that they had never met before. But they only knew one thing.

00:07:18.600 Those people were fellow Americans. And then what happened next? I'm going to talk about it.

00:07:26.040 Right back. Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily.

00:07:30.400 Where is Jack? Where is Jack? Where is he? Jack, I want to see you.

00:07:39.600 Great job, Jack. Thank you. What a job you do. You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.

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00:10:58.980 And so I want to bring on and get in more with Libby Emmons here on this question.

00:11:04.500 And Libby, you know, you're someone who you didn't spend all your formative years in New York, but I think of you as a New Yorker.

00:11:11.040 Would you consider yourself a New Yorker?

00:11:13.720 Yeah, I would. I would.

00:11:15.300 I don't know if those born there would consider me that, but my son does.

00:11:18.820 And he was born in Brooklyn, so I think that counts.

00:11:21.920 Well, I mean, you lived in New York for years and years and years.

00:11:24.260 And obviously 9-11 for New Yorkers is just such a day that lives in infamy.

00:11:31.740 And look, as a son of Philadelphia area, the Archdiocese of Philadelphia, I certainly look at it in a different sense.

00:11:39.800 I lived through that day, but I'm not someone who was in the cities.

00:11:42.720 I'm not a New Yorker.

00:11:44.040 But when we look at New York, of course, we think of, you know, I've got the skyline behind me. 0.99

00:11:49.740 We put it on the new Unhumans book, the idea that New York is now controlled by a Muslim communist. 0.95

00:11:56.260 And we look at the status of things and we say, you know, and this is what I want to say, and I've been tweeting about it all day, that I just feel like we have squandered. 0.99

00:12:06.140 We have squandered so much.

00:12:09.820 And in order to get what exactly?

00:12:15.340 I'm trying to figure this out.

00:12:16.120 You had a tweet earlier and we have this, we have it up.

00:12:19.480 Guys, let's play C2-1.

00:12:25.880 We're going to show you from the West Bank.

00:12:28.940 These are Palestinian celebrations in the wake of Tuesday's terror attacks in the United States.

00:12:34.880 Apparently, Palestinians took to the street chanting, God is great.

00:12:38.940 People were throwing candy, distributing candy to passersby.

00:12:42.400 the u.s government obviously has become increasingly increasingly unpopular particularly 0.79

00:12:50.300 in the west bank and gaza strip because palestinians feel that the u.s government has sided with

00:12:56.520 israel one man nawal abdel fatah wearing a long blast black dress through sweets in the air saying

00:13:04.100 actually that's a woman pardon me saying she was happy because quote america is the head of

00:13:09.080 The snake, America, always stands by Israel in its war against us.

00:13:15.520 You know, Libby, I look at this and look at those images, and I remember those images. 0.83

00:13:20.660 I remember that from when it took place.

00:13:22.780 I remember the story out of ABC about Jersey City, by the way, which President Trump, of

00:13:28.000 course, brings up from time to time, and they lie about, and yet we all remember that story,

00:13:32.260 and that story came out as well about the jihadis on rooftops and this type of thing, cheering.

00:13:37.500 And yet. We were told by our government that we need to open our doors to mass third world migration from the Middle East at the same time that we were also told that we had to go and evade Iraq, which had nothing to do with it.

00:13:52.220 And by the way, Donald Rumsfeld and we if you go back to our show, Tales of regime change, the Iraq war, that we had the I guess you would call them text messages now from Donald Rumsfeld on the day of 9-11.

00:14:06.680 As the smoke is still running through the streets of New York City saying, how do we tie this to Saddam Hussein so we can invade Iraq?

00:14:14.700 He was saying that on the very day he was texting that Libby, we squandered.

00:14:20.300 And when I say we, I mean the neocons, the neocons squandered 9-11.

00:14:26.440 Yeah, the neocons definitely squandered 9-11.

00:14:29.160 But you know who didn't squander 9-11 was the globalists.

00:14:31.780 As you mentioned, the globalists came in strong.

00:14:34.240 They said that the real problem after 9-11 was Islamophobia, and they launched a culture

00:14:40.320 war just like that. 0.89

00:14:41.620 And that's why we have now Mamdani as the mayor of New York, and we have Islamists who 0.79

00:14:47.580 are running for our highest elected offices in the country. 0.97

00:14:51.000 This has been a slow but steady invasion of ideology that directly conflicts with American

00:14:57.200 values of equality and freedom.

00:14:59.880 And we're just watching it happen.

00:15:01.600 We're just letting it happen.

00:15:02.880 And here we are.

00:15:04.000 it is upon us, just like the smoke was upon those people on that day. And it's absolutely devastating.

00:15:13.220 And it's something where, and Libby, talk to us a little bit about

00:15:17.500 just that day. And I talked about the boat lift, but there were so many everyday heroes

00:15:22.540 that day. And then, of course, beyond the extraordinary heroism of the firefighters,

00:15:29.140 the port authority officers, and the police officers. Yeah, it was really everyone. I remember

00:15:34.700 a friend of mine could not track down his mom on that day, and he knew that she worked in the

00:15:40.420 trade center, and he was trying to find her, and eventually she was okay, and eventually it turned

00:15:45.720 out that he found her trying to give blood. So many people were trying to give blood at the

00:15:50.360 hospitals in New York City that day, but it turned out there weren't enough people that had survived

00:15:55.280 to give blood to, but they were trying to do it before they knew that that was the case. People

00:15:59.920 were pulling strangers into buildings. People were camping out in strangers' apartment buildings

00:16:05.500 as people walked north from ground zero. That was a really big deal. There was also a book that I

00:16:13.020 don't know if people remember called Fireboat. It's actually a children's book that I used

00:16:17.200 to start teaching my son about 9-11 when he was young, and it's about the John J. Harvey,

00:16:23.360 a fireboat that had been decommissioned and it was bought by a bunch of friends in lower Manhattan

00:16:28.120 and they saw what was going on. They got on the boat and they went out there and they helped.

00:16:33.040 The fireboat draws water from the, you know, the harbor and they used it. And I think that that's

00:16:38.940 really an act of heroism as well. And there were so many stories like that. People just wanted to

00:16:43.660 come together. And not only did New Yorkers want to come together, but I think the country came

00:16:47.700 together in a large way. And in part, that's because this was before the Americans started,

00:16:53.660 we started hating ourselves. It's before we started blaming ourselves for this terrorist

00:16:58.060 tragedy. It's before we looked out at the world and said, oh, they hate us. We must have deserved it.

00:17:06.400 And, and look, you know, and we can, we can go in and I have, by the way, gone into

00:17:11.900 long diatribes about uh about why 9-11 happened and how this came to be but what what i really 0.60

00:17:22.200 think that we all need to reflect on is that the neocons stole and just robbed just robbed the

00:17:32.100 entire generation of gen y and a lot of gen xers from this moment of extraordinary patriotism

00:17:41.900 by saying the only way to respond to this 1.00

00:17:45.120 is we have to allow Muslims into the country unfettered 0.96

00:17:48.820 and also at the same time, 1.00

00:17:51.240 we have to spend trillions of dollars

00:17:53.320 trying to build democracy in the Middle East.

00:17:56.480 How many Americans died in those wars and in those efforts?

00:18:00.040 And I'm not saying we shouldn't have punched back. 0.97

00:18:01.520 Of course we should have punched.

00:18:02.260 I joined up and served at Guantanamo Bay, all right?

00:18:05.700 Like, don't come and ask me about that.

00:18:09.280 But what I will say is that what was done was way beyond the scope of what anyone needed.

00:18:17.580 And unfortunately, it's put us in a position where we're now more divided than ever.

00:18:22.900 That was the last day that we, 9-12, was the last day that we were united at that level.

00:18:29.540 It was the last time that we were able to stand shoulder to shoulder together as a country.

00:18:34.720 And you look at what we've done demographically with this country. 0.93

00:18:37.740 look at the white erasure that's gone since then, particularly in New York City, by the way, 0.69

00:18:42.380 you look at the operations that have been done, to your point, the neocons and the globus. I used 0.81

00:18:46.160 to call it the two Georges strategy. So the George Soros and George Bush, right? So it's

00:18:51.300 the two Georges, George Soros and George Bush. And one was invade the world and one was invite

00:18:58.060 the world. And that is now the situation we live in today. Ladies and gentlemen, the world you

00:19:04.360 grew up in no longer exists. Right back, Jack Posobiec, Lenny Evans.

00:19:09.320 they talk about influences these are influences and uh they're friends of mine jack or so like

00:19:37.480 Where's Jack?

00:19:39.700 He's got a great job.

00:19:42.380 I think we'll do fine.

00:19:44.200 Donald, what do you think about all this?

00:19:45.440 You're a developer. You've built buildings all your life.

00:19:47.840 Well, there's never been anything like this.

00:19:49.360 It's disgraceful, and I hope we attack fast.

00:19:51.920 I hope we find out who it is and go fast.

00:19:54.120 Okay.

00:19:54.820 Why do you want to come down here today?

00:19:56.200 I have about 100 men working down here, so just to spur them on.

00:19:58.760 Hi, folks.

00:19:59.600 And I hear doing an amazing job, so I just want to give them some support.

00:20:03.960 These are men from your development?

00:20:05.240 Yeah, men from my company.

00:20:06.560 We have another hundred coming in a little while.

00:20:09.320 They're brave guys.

00:20:10.340 A couple of them got hurt.

00:20:11.620 What did you think when you heard about this?

00:20:13.300 I was just down to ground zero.

00:20:14.860 Ground zero is a disaster.

00:20:17.240 I've never seen anything like this.

00:20:18.820 I hope we act very quickly.

00:20:20.080 I hope we find out who did it and act accordingly and quickly.

00:20:23.800 Do you have any plans to donate money to the Widows and Children's Fund for the fallen firefighters?

00:20:27.540 I've certainly been.

00:20:28.300 I've done it over the years, and it certainly sounds like a good idea.

00:20:32.680 All right, folks.

00:20:33.400 We're back live.

00:20:34.300 Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.

00:20:35.860 You know, it's amazing.

00:20:36.560 I was just watching that clip with my boys this weekend, and we were, you know, going through some of the 9-11 stuff and just clicking around on the interwebs.

00:20:45.380 And I had seen that clip independently, and then President Trump just went and tweeted it up on Truth Social.

00:20:53.320 And Libby, I remember, of course, him being there and talking about 9-11.

00:20:59.320 He had this plan.

00:21:00.560 He wanted to build the towers back, which I wholeheartedly endorse and continue to endorse.

00:21:05.660 and in fact he uh he brought it up as he was one of the first people and this is the way that

00:21:12.280 president trump remade the gop was he was the the very first person on a republican stage in

00:21:17.720 republican context to confront someone with a bush you know jeb bush right with a bush on their name

00:21:24.200 and say say to his face why did your brother never apologize for iraq and it was just in that moment

00:21:32.860 i remember um you know feeling that someone finally said it and it's like why why do we as

00:21:41.000 republicans or as conservatives have to live with this around our neck forever that it was it was

00:21:47.780 obviously wrong it was obviously a lie it was obviously just a crazy situation and we actually

00:21:52.700 made the middle east worse which is by the way what putin said would happen if we did it and they

00:21:57.280 just lied they they lied to all of our faces and in fact we have the text messages now from donald

00:22:02.480 Rumsfeld confirming that he wanted to attack Iraq on 9-11, that he was saying on 9-11, 0.64

00:22:09.700 we have to tie this to Saddam. And this is something that's just, it's a betrayal. It's

00:22:15.580 a complete betrayal of America. And I think that in many ways, conservatives still haven't,

00:22:22.300 still haven't quite realized just how big of a betrayal it was.

00:22:25.540 Yeah, I remember distinctly at that time, and I felt pretty betrayed by it as well. I remember

00:22:31.300 Colin Powell went to the UN to make the case for war in Iraq. He talked about how they had this

00:22:36.260 yellow cake uranium, and that turned out to be entirely false. And I remember there was a

00:22:42.040 conversation about whether or not Colin Powell was lying or whether or not he had believed someone

00:22:46.940 else who had lied to him about this yellow cake uranium. We all knew a bunch of like, you walk 0.77

00:22:52.760 around, you talk to your friends, you're like, why are we going to war with Iraq? This doesn't make 0.77

00:22:56.460 any sense at all. There was this hoax about the WMDs, the weapons of mass destruction, and the

00:23:02.860 whole thing just seemed really manufactured. By the spring of 2023, New York was, again,

00:23:10.540 there were a lot of people at this march to protest the war in Iraq. I remember I ran into

00:23:15.580 Jerry Springer, the former Salacious talk show host, at that march. The transit unions were out.

00:23:21.180 Everybody was out saying, hey, why are you doing this?

00:23:24.160 We don't need to go to war in Iraq.

00:23:26.420 This doesn't make any sense.

00:23:28.180 And of course, having Putin say that we were going to make the Middle East worse, if there's 0.56

00:23:32.840 anything that you know, as a Russian leader, they made Afghanistan worse, right?

00:23:37.560 And then we also used 9-11 to go into Afghanistan and stay there for some 20 years, absolutely 0.97

00:23:44.760 not helping anything.

00:23:46.300 And in fact, now the Taliban is in charge.

00:23:48.520 They have a lot of American money.

00:23:49.860 They have a lot of American Jeeps, and they're incredibly oppressive to their population. 1.00

00:23:54.400 Girls can't even get an education or be seen through the windows of their own homes. 0.97

00:23:59.080 So we have done nothing positive in the Middle East at this point based on these wars. 0.78

00:24:04.100 Absolutely pointless, absolutely done in our name. 0.97

00:24:07.340 And it made us look absolutely foolish, right?

00:24:09.760 I mean, you talk to people from other countries and they'd be like, hey, why are you guys into this war?

00:24:14.320 And I remember talking to people in Buenos Aires and saying, listen, we have a democracy.

00:24:19.440 This is the person who won.

00:24:20.860 We didn't all vote for him.

00:24:22.500 And, you know, I hope our country does well.

00:24:24.820 But, you know, this was not really the plan that all of us had in mind after 9-11.

00:24:30.200 You also saw that there was this huge push from Arab American advocacy groups pushing into the U.S. to change the curriculum, to address things like Islamophobia, to say that jihad wasn't really a bad thing, to say that Sharia law was just advocating for what God wanted here on Earth.

00:24:47.440 And these are things that are in American textbooks and they're in American textbooks because the entire publishing industry and academia was like, oh, no, we're the problem. We're we're at fault for 9-11. Let's make sure that it doesn't happen again by capitulating to the very ideals that sought to destroy us. 0.70

00:25:05.560 and uh sean davis had a great tweet um up you know where he was echoing this it's a bit longer

00:25:13.240 um but it's it's you know he was responding to someone i think it was a zoomer i guess

00:25:19.040 that you know people born pre-9-11 have uh a weird worshipful attitude about it and

00:25:27.000 there's there's it's so much more than that because it's not just about 9-11 it's about

00:25:31.760 9-11 for sure. But it's also about the America that was right. It's about the America before

00:25:37.220 it's about, and you can, you see that America in the risk, the New Yorker response to 9-11

00:25:42.240 whereas now you'd probably have like a third of the city or, or God forbid more cheering it on. 0.93

00:25:49.360 They'd be joining the, uh, they'd be joining the Arabs in, in dancing in the streets. 0.81

00:25:54.620 You'd have more of that. So, so somewhere along the line, we were told, cause we had Bush on TV 0.52

00:26:00.180 saying remember within what five days islam is peace and you know meeting with the you know we

00:26:05.880 all have to be careful we all have to be good we have to be little politically correct people and

00:26:10.220 i'm like meanwhile james woods remember they accused james woods of racial profiling because

00:26:15.660 he said there's some there's some arabs who are acting uh a little bit a little bit squirrely on

00:26:20.620 this plane and it ended up being the hijackers like a month before and he made a report to the

00:26:25.400 flight crew, they made a report to the FAA. What did the FBI ever do? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

00:26:30.780 Racial profiling, racial profiling. Yeah. And now you have mom, Donnie, who was out there on the

00:26:36.940 campaign trail talking about how his aunt was, uh, you know, the real victim of nine 11 because

00:26:43.100 she was wearing a hijab on the subway in the days following. And she was criticized or something

00:26:48.140 like that. And then that turned out to be, it wasn't even true. Anyway, what? It wasn't true.

00:26:53.480 They made the whole thing, and they made that up.

00:26:56.100 It was like stolen valor victimization.

00:26:58.760 Libby, we are on a hard break.

00:27:01.000 Can I hold you over for a little bit because I'm hot about this?

00:27:03.860 Can I hold you over for just a little bit?

00:27:06.120 All right, we're going to do that here, folks,

00:27:08.120 because this whole thing is I'm as mad about 9-11 as I was on that day.

00:27:15.060 Right back.

00:27:15.720 Human Events.

00:27:16.240 Jack Soberg.

00:27:23.480 One communist on the faculty of one university is one communist, two men.

00:27:43.720 One communist among the American advisors at Yalta was one communist, two men.

00:27:53.480 All right, folks, Jack, we'll be back live, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.

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00:29:20.420 Libby Emmons, I want to get you back in here because, you know, I was ranting and I would

00:29:25.240 be remiss if I did not let you also extend to your ranting that it really is, when you

00:29:32.500 think about it, absolutely horrific.

00:29:35.760 When you think about, it's not just, again, it's not just that the attack happened.

00:29:42.260 It's about the way it was squandered and the way that they took our country away from us.

00:29:49.500 sent our best and brightest to fight and die in wars that were ultimately meaningless.

00:29:56.880 And yes, they were, by the way.

00:29:58.780 I'm not just talking about the attacks on Al-Qaeda.

00:30:00.280 I'm talking about the wars.

00:30:01.520 Okay, I'm talking about the wars and the nation building.

00:30:05.580 And I say this as a prior Navy intelligence officer.

00:30:07.860 Hello.

00:30:09.140 And meanwhile, you go and look at New York and it's like, where's my New York?

00:30:13.080 Libby, what happened?

00:30:15.180 Yeah, I mean, I think you sketch it out there pretty well.

00:30:18.180 It seems almost as if this could have been planned if you had a really crazy conspiracy brain and thought that maybe this was the way that, you know, the globalists decided to take New York City from us.

00:30:30.660 New York has long been an international city, but now, as you say, it is a city that has been essentially overrun with communist leadership.

00:30:39.760 The plan is to bring more migrants into the city, which reduces the American population by an awful lot. 0.73

00:30:47.240 And when you combine that with the education system and the sort of ethos that tells Americans that their country is garbage and that their country is not worth saving and should be entirely remade to suit migrant and globalist interests, we have a real problem.

00:31:04.960 And that's what happens to New York City. 0.83

00:31:07.240 It used to be you have immigrants coming to New York City, right, like a lot of our ancestors sure did.

00:31:12.900 And those immigrants wanted to be American.

00:31:14.960 They wanted to raise their kids American. 0.99

00:31:16.440 They didn't want their kids to even speak their native language at home.

00:31:19.900 My grandparents gave up Italian for sure.

00:31:23.180 They changed their names to be more Americanized.

00:31:26.420 And what they really wanted to be was American, right?

00:31:29.660 I mean, with good pizza.

00:31:31.300 So, I mean, that's the best of both worlds situation.

00:31:34.860 But that has really changed.

00:31:36.620 And now when you have people coming into New York City, they want freebies and handouts.

00:31:40.580 they want to you know sell fake counterfeit stuff on the streets and not have any repercussions for

00:31:47.500 that they want free housing and they want all of the rest of it and that is not something that can

00:31:52.380 be held up by the city of New York that's not something that makes it a sustainable place to

00:31:57.260 live for the people who were already there and working hard to try and make a life in these

00:32:02.240 United States and it's really sad to see that happen to what I still believe is the greatest

00:32:07.140 city on earth and i also want to give a shout out to former mayor rudy giuliani who really held that

00:32:12.960 city together i he really just made it so so much easier i think for people to come together

00:32:19.320 and i'll never forget one you know i think it was on the 12th um where he came out and he gave a

00:32:25.060 presser conference and he spoke about how alternate side of the street parking would be suspended and

00:32:30.760 as soon as he mentioned this very basic thing which is alternate side of the street parking

00:32:35.040 where you move your car from one side to the other

00:32:36.840 so the street sweepers can come through.

00:32:39.340 I thought the city is going to be okay.

00:32:41.620 And now with Mom Donnie in charge,

00:32:43.120 all I can think is the city is not okay.

00:32:46.920 Couldn't agree more.

00:32:47.780 Libby Emmons, where can people go to follow you?

00:32:50.140 You can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons

00:32:51.940 and check out all the great work we're doing

00:32:53.580 at humanevents.com and The Post Millennial.

00:32:57.800 Couldn't agree more.

00:32:59.820 Thank you so much, Libby, for joining us

00:33:01.460 and talking about that because as we look to the past

00:33:04.400 And as we understand, I think what we're doing right now as a society and as a country, as a movement, whatever you want to call it, is we are now working to understand how to fit 9-11 into our lexicon.

00:33:18.960 How do we look at 9-11?

00:33:20.520 How should we view 9-11?

00:33:22.240 And I think this anger that a lot of people are feeling is the right anger because we have to understand what was true about it and what was false.

00:33:32.240 We have to understand the truth of the heroism, but we have to also understand the lies about Iraq and others.

00:33:40.060 And so as we look to the future, this is important.

00:33:43.480 And that is why I'm so excited to bring on our next guest.

00:33:47.680 His name is Frank DeVito.

00:33:48.940 He has a new book out from Bombardier Books, Post Hill Press, J.D. Vance and the Future of the Republican Party.

00:33:56.540 Frank, how are you?

00:33:58.200 I'm doing well, Jack.

00:33:59.080 Thanks for having me.

00:34:00.040 Great to be here.

00:34:01.220 Thank you so much.

00:34:02.140 So, so, so tell us about the book and, and what does vice president Vance, uh, I call

00:34:08.960 him, I created this, uh, meme of calling him 48 on, uh, on social media, which of course

00:34:15.060 obviously refers to that.

00:34:16.160 What is it about JD Vance that is different from the old school sort of Republican?

00:34:23.340 And I actually, I would argue that he's the first Republican that was made in the mold

00:34:28.860 of MAGA America First policies that President Trump created. So he broke that mold. I've just

00:34:36.700 been talking about sort of the old like neocon establishment from, you know, the Bush dynasty,

00:34:42.300 the Karl Rove people who were really in charge of the party beforehand. But J.D. Vance is really

00:34:46.620 the first politician that you've seen on the national stage that is in this America First

00:34:51.900 mold. Yeah. What makes him different? I mean, in some sense, that's what the entire book is about.

00:34:57.960 Who is this guy? What has he been saying, thinking, writing for the last 15 years or 10 years at least since Hillbilly Elegy came out?

00:35:07.120 But the two big things, I think, are a real reorientation of foreign policy.

00:35:14.780 Right. How do we get away from both, like he said at the press conference the other day, the wokeness and the absurdity that's weakened our military,

00:35:21.740 but also the foreign policy excursions of the last couple of decades that have gotten us into

00:35:26.360 so much trouble and really harmed our place on the world stage. So how do we get back to a

00:35:31.820 realistic, not isolationist, but a realistic America first foreign policy? I think Vance is

00:35:37.060 a really important figure for that foreign policy discussion. And then on the home front, I think

00:35:41.720 the biggest thing that I like to talk about is the reorientation on the American dream. I think

00:35:47.080 for too long, the Republican Party has moved toward being perceived and in some sense really

00:35:52.180 being the party of the corporate class, right? The party of the wealthy. And Donald Trump did

00:35:57.440 something amazing. He really shifted this party for the first time in a long time to have the

00:36:02.280 opportunity to be the party of the American working class and the party of the ordinary

00:36:05.860 American family. And you listen to some of what J.D. has said about the American. Let's stop

00:36:13.200 talking about having more money, having more degrees, having fancier cars than our grandparents

00:36:17.780 and our parents, and let's start talking about what does a country look like where as many

00:36:21.780 ordinary Americans can get married, can stay married, can have kids, and can find meaningful

00:36:26.260 work to support a family. I think all of his domestic policy really revolves around that.

00:36:31.200 How do we make the Republican Party the party of the worker and the party of the family?

00:36:34.640 And in the wake of Trump, that's a huge opportunity to really establish the Republican

00:36:39.860 party as the party of the ordinary American. Oh, it's, it's, it's amazing. You know, he was,

00:36:46.080 you know, cited Huey Long recently at one of these, I think it was South Carolina speech that

00:36:52.120 he gave saying every man a King. And, you know, this of course is very different from, you know,

00:36:57.920 what we used to hear about sort of the orthodoxy of, you know, just, just the free market,

00:37:02.180 let people do whatever they want. And he's really striking some, some traditional American

00:37:08.240 populist strains that have always existed, but ones that I think that Donald Trump

00:37:13.440 rightfully is the one that brought back to the forefront.

00:37:17.260 Yeah, and I think he's making a really important point that I think strikes at one of the big

00:37:20.900 tensions in the conservative right of center coalition in America today, right, which is

00:37:25.760 limited government, freedom, more or less free markets. These are largely good things that

00:37:32.400 accomplish good things in our society. But the danger is to make them ends in themselves, right?

00:37:37.180 The the goal is not the end of having a free market. The goal is having human flourishing, right? Having people who can can pursue the American dream, can have successful families and have a good life. That's the end. If we idolize the market, if we idolize freedom without not these things are good. But if we forget what they are for, which is the good of American people, then then we're in trouble. We've turned the means into an end.

00:38:02.620 yeah it's it's you know people should have an economy not the other way around we'll be right

00:38:08.800 back on with frank devito he's got the new book jd vance and the future of the republican party

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00:40:17.300 We're on with author Frank DeVito. He's going through the new book, J.D. Vance,

00:40:21.420 The Future of the Republican Party. And Frank, I got to ask you, you know, we've been talking

00:40:25.760 about foreign policy here in a sense, foreign policy, immigration policy. Again, these are

00:40:31.700 things that president trump of course has brought to the forefront but with jd vance this marks a

00:40:37.180 huge split and of course we're seeing the detractors from jd his critics in the party uh folks who have

00:40:43.560 been some people have been extremely critical of him it's really on that foreign policy front that

00:40:48.680 they are attacking him what is the biggest difference from a foreign policy perspective

00:40:52.980 with jd and say the the old right if you will yeah so the the coalition that makes up the right

00:41:00.020 There's a spectrum from like very interventionist war hawks that were, I think, very dominant in the last couple of decades of the Republican Party to pretty hardline isolationists who really don't want an American superpower role on the world stage.

00:41:13.860 Vance is neither extreme, but he definitely goes more toward the realist or the restraint side of this spectrum.

00:41:21.620 And I think that's really important.

00:41:23.460 I mean, like you said on the earlier segment, talking about 9-11, right, this generation that's coming up, two generations now, are very much marked in their view of foreign policy by the Iraq war, right?

00:41:33.660 We were over in the Middle East forever. 0.89

00:41:35.880 The basis for going in in the first place seems to have been a lie.

00:41:39.240 We don't really know what we were doing there or what we got out of it or why anything is any better for all the lives and the fortune that we spent there.

00:41:45.720 And so I think taking a hard look at this is on the minds of a lot of people on the American right.

00:41:50.320 And we can see, obviously, Vance is the vice president now during wartime. So he's not coming out and giving speeches, giving his outline of what he foresees the future of American foreign policy being. But we see some hints that we have a more restrained figure who's looking to realign how the right views foreign policy. Right.

00:42:08.160 We saw when the signal messages leaked before the Houthis were bombed last year, Vance was the outspoken voice saying like, hey, what are we doing here?

00:42:15.820 This is not our problem, not our fight.

00:42:18.760 He was an early opponent of the Ukraine war from basically the first day he stepped on the floor of the Senate asking, where is this money going?

00:42:26.260 What is the end game? What are we doing?

00:42:28.180 So I think those give you an insight into where we see Vance.

00:42:30.940 Not somebody who wants to step away from being a world power, which America really can't do, but taking a really hard look at what are we doing when we're using military force, when we're using our budget to go anywhere abroad.

00:42:43.660 What are we doing? Why are we doing it? What's the American interest? What's the goal?

00:42:47.420 I think a lot of Americans on the right are really, and not just on the right, all across the country are looking for a more coherent answer to what are we doing when we engage in military action.

00:42:56.920 I think Vance is probably the thought leader on the right to take that question seriously.

00:43:02.500 You know, that's a great point. And it's something where I've noticed this and folks know that I did meet with the vice president last week and, you know, got to spend some time together at the White House.

00:43:15.260 And, you know, it's I've noticed just in the way that he speaks, it's so different than the old right because he speaks intangibles where you hear of and President Trump does this as well, where you often hear folks in like the neocon neoliberal sphere will speak in intangibles.

00:43:31.920 And one of the best ways that I can I can explain this, you know, what do I mean by that?

00:43:35.820 Kim Jong-un, right, which is more of a Trump thing. 0.55

00:43:38.260 But they would I remember when President Trump was going to meet him in the first term, they would say you can't meet with Kim Jong-un because that legitimizes him.

00:43:46.400 It legitimizes him. And that word legitimizes.

00:43:49.220 I remember thinking, what do you mean? What does that mean?

00:43:53.300 What is legitimacy of of a leader of North Korea?

00:43:56.760 He is the leader of North Korea. Actually, he doesn't need a meeting with the president.

00:44:01.920 to confirm that he is the leader of North Korea. He already has that title. He already has that

00:44:06.800 position. It's been given to him. Yes, there's a regime. Yes, they're backed by China, et cetera,

00:44:10.300 et cetera. But the point is, is that he doesn't actually, quote unquote, gain anything tangible

00:44:15.800 out of this. It isn't intangible. However, what could President Trump possibly gain from this?

00:44:22.320 Normalization. He could normalize the situation so we don't have to worry about North Korea's 0.98

00:44:27.420 nuclear program, popping one off. And I'm not saying it's it's it's, you know, something you 0.94

00:44:32.000 ever forget about. Right. But again, you don't want to completely like recede from the world stage

00:44:37.780 forthwith. But at the same time, there are other ways to deal with this. And so where President

00:44:43.180 Trump saw it, I think he saw it as an asset to say, I don't need to worry about this thing that

00:44:47.520 doesn't exist. What I'm worried about is the nuclear program, which is the tangible. And

00:44:52.460 perhaps we can have a discussion to find a way towards other tangible benefits. That's pragmatic.

00:44:58.780 And you really hear that more with J.D. Vance, I think, than you hear with members of the old

00:45:04.500 right, that tangible versus intangible. Yeah, I think that's a great way to put it. We need

00:45:10.480 hard, tangible reality when we're talking about foreign policy. I don't want to hear we can't

00:45:15.960 talk to this foreign leader. It would legitimize him because that's not a real argument for

00:45:19.800 anything. I don't want to hear we need to go into this to make the world safe for democracy or to

00:45:24.320 make this society a free society. That doesn't mean anything. The real question is when we're

00:45:28.740 using military, we're using our money, we're using the lives of our military members. What are we

00:45:34.340 doing? What is the goal? Why is this in the American interest? I want to see a real tangible

00:45:38.520 reason that we are involved in this anytime we're making a foreign policy decision. I think you're

00:45:43.020 right. J.D. Vance speaks that way. And it's really important both to articulate what are we doing in

00:45:47.340 our foreign policy, but also to make the case to the American people that if military intervention

00:45:51.560 is necessary, we don't want to hear it's to make the world safe for democracy. We want to hear a

00:45:55.680 real America-centered reason that we're going in that makes sense to the ordinary voter.

00:46:01.060 Yeah, it's really simple. An America-centered foreign policy that makes sense. Gosh,

00:46:06.200 what a thought. What an absolute thought where you're saying that you're saying, and look,

00:46:11.520 I'll just say bluntly, right?

00:46:13.980 You know, I had some friends and family who were, you know, it was fantasy football weekend.

00:46:19.800 And I'm not a fantasy football guy, but obviously coming from Pennsylvania,

00:46:23.540 the Eagles territory, we get quite a bit of it.

00:46:26.020 And a lot of people were having meetings and parties and getting to get togethers

00:46:29.660 about their different leagues this weekend.

00:46:33.000 And so I kind of went around and sort of polled every friend I could think of,

00:46:37.300 whether they're in Texas, whether they're in Pennsylvania, whoever,

00:46:40.480 to say, hey, what do you guys think about the direction of things in that world?

00:46:44.640 And to a man, they said, we don't know what's going on.

00:46:48.880 We don't get it.

00:46:49.540 We don't see what the benefit is for us. 0.83

00:46:51.740 We don't understand why, you know, we're in this war with Iran right now.

00:46:56.660 You know, it seems like something that D.C. is very interested in, but we don't get it.

00:47:02.900 And it's just that disconnect.

00:47:04.400 It's that total disconnect.

00:47:05.900 And I think that that's something Charlie Kirk understood that from when he would speak

00:47:09.540 to young voters.

00:47:10.220 And I think that's something that J.D. Vance understands as well, being an Iraq vet himself.

00:47:14.320 Last minute to you, Frank.

00:47:16.580 Yeah, for one, you're spot on.

00:47:18.760 You need anything you do in politics.

00:47:20.220 You need to make the case to the ordinary voter when it's military affairs.

00:47:23.300 You need to make the case to the average soldier or airman or sailor, right, to actually help them have the morale to understand what they're doing there.

00:47:30.400 And I think I'll say across the board, I think Vance is a unique public figure, which is most of the reason I wrote the book.

00:47:35.540 very deep intellectual, very able to turn high ideas into practical policy, communicate them

00:47:42.100 to the average person. And so this book is really it takes the time after Hillbilly Elegy up to

00:47:47.380 basically the present when I wrote the thing to explain who is this guy and what does he mean for

00:47:51.800 the post-Trump Republican Party? Because we're at a huge epoch right now. Trump has controlled the

00:47:55.680 party for over a decade. He's going off the world stage pretty soon. And who takes over the reins

00:48:00.780 next is extremely important. Vance is the front runner. He's the guy. And so understanding who he

00:48:05.260 is what he believes and what he means for the party is probably the most important issue in

00:48:09.580 american politics right now well and i think very much that that uh that uh debate is already being

00:48:15.580 had frank tell people i think get the book yep amazon barnes and noble you can go to the post

00:48:20.380 hill press website you can find me on twitter at the right frank d ladies and gentlemen

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