Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - May 30, 2026


THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 129 — The Death of Reading? AI in Cars? Pet Translator?


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00:00:00.000 from the age of big brother if they want to get you they'll get you dnsa specifically
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00:00:10.720 well ladies and gentlemen welcome to this week's edition of thought crime
00:00:29.200 thursday we are here it is an audacious week an auspicious week i am in a button down but i am not
00:00:37.700 in a jacket nor will i ever be norma as is tradition now andrew is here andrew there were
00:00:46.520 some comments that it looked like you were in a jacket last week no andrew showed up i was giving
00:00:52.300 you the benefit of the doubt it looked like a windbreaker no no jack jack andrew just showed
00:00:56.620 up for this show just a few minutes ago with no shirt on and only a jacket that's not true
00:01:01.360 that's hold on and we were like whoa dude you got this totally wrong savage kind of thing
00:01:06.140 you're supposed to wear no jacket and a shirt he got it backwards he was wearing no shirt and
00:01:11.880 i get confused i'm dyslexic oh you got it backwards no i i uh i did come in with a jacket
00:01:19.840 so here's the thing so i don't wear jackets very often and it's funny because i think people just
00:01:24.860 assume i do because the show yeah but i come to work and i have an outfit on and i don't have a
00:01:29.620 second outfit i don't have like a wardrobe i'm not like some diva that has like multiple wardrobes
00:01:34.940 i'll never forget so you just deliberately always bring it in here to fly i get cold because they
00:01:39.440 keep this place like a freaking ice box because all the studio equipment anyways so uh yeah i'm
00:01:44.980 in my t-shirt this is this is what i do it's uh you you look like you got the the swingers the
00:01:51.180 1950s uh what golf shirt or something this is uh this is just a a nice specific somewhere shirt
00:01:57.500 that was on sale there you go i i try my best but you know it's funny when i talk about
00:02:03.340 go ahead jack are you seeing what the white house just did no they just announced the existence of
00:02:09.740 aliens oh i'm sure well all right yeah if they say so can we can we pull this up whitehouse.gov
00:02:15.100 slash aliens yeah that's been that's been live for a while what yeah hasn't it isn't they started
00:02:22.000 like they just sent it to me now bro they walk among us yeah okay wow you guys seeing this
00:02:29.260 the u.s government has kept a closely guarded secret that you can tell is definitely real
00:02:36.020 based on this obnoxious website they've made aliens oh this is going to be about illegal
00:02:40.600 aliens this is going to be about aliens have been walking among us living in our neighborhoods
00:02:45.720 they've shopped at the same stores in our daily lives i like it attended the same classes
00:02:51.500 and they live seemingly normal human existences with one exception they do not belong here
00:02:58.220 oh that was clever that was clever i like that millions arrived under the cover of darkness
00:03:05.120 and embedded themselves directly into our society.
00:03:08.620 The truth is no longer out there.
00:03:10.380 Countless presidents, congressmen, senior officials
00:03:12.560 knew exactly what was happening.
00:03:14.440 3,129,000 encounters.
00:03:18.300 I want to know how many real aliens
00:03:21.760 are also on government subsidized.
00:03:24.020 Wait, scroll down.
00:03:25.020 There's like a...
00:03:26.500 What is it?
00:03:27.960 Alien arrest map live.
00:03:30.040 Oh, wow.
00:03:30.800 This is actually cool.
00:03:32.140 This is taking way too long to load.
00:03:33.940 I don't have time to read all of this.
00:03:35.320 But speaking of aliens, scroll past the text.
00:03:38.080 There's a live map.
00:03:40.080 So you scroll down and there's a live map of like arrests.
00:03:47.060 Oh, I love this.
00:03:48.300 That have taken place.
00:03:49.520 And you can zoom in anywhere in the country on it.
00:03:51.560 Look at Texas.
00:03:52.500 It's like pure red in Florida.
00:03:55.360 Based.
00:03:57.000 Man, I love this.
00:03:57.680 You know, speaking of aliens, we have to shout out most of Thought Crimes listeners
00:04:02.160 for holding a line and not going to the new Star Wars movie,
00:04:06.780 The Mandalorian and Grogu,
00:04:07.780 which grossed a mere about $100 million in its first weekend,
00:04:12.360 which in modern inflationary times.
00:04:16.040 No, it did the same as Solo.
00:04:18.720 Yeah, but it's been about a decade since Solo.
00:04:20.820 Yeah, but you have to change to inflation.
00:04:22.820 Seven years.
00:04:24.660 Seven years.
00:04:25.760 Well, yeah.
00:04:27.740 Yeah, Solo was 19, I think.
00:04:29.320 So Solo, but it was the first.
00:04:31.560 Solo was 18.
00:04:31.940 first release in seven years first theatrical yeah first theatrical release of anything it
00:04:36.220 barely made a hundred million which is like half globally it's like half the debut of star wars
00:04:41.580 episode three when you adjust for inflation and everything else but even if most of our viewers
00:04:46.880 weren't holding the line it seems like there were a lot of defectors in our own studio hold on hold
00:04:52.520 on let's let's let's let's at least let's at least take a second to say that congratulate
00:04:58.460 and appreciate those who actually went along with the assignment of boycotting this because
00:05:05.600 mark hamill called for donald trump to be killed and of course by extension all conservatives uh
00:05:11.760 this of course led to a you know we saw something happen where a star wars super fan apparently beat
00:05:17.820 to death a uh trump that guy ran a trump house in san diego so i mean this was i did see that
00:05:24.720 I'm gonna I'm gonna play both sides you didn't see that date I know I did see that I did see 0.65
00:05:30.840 that some guy at a chump house and a guy a guy in a literal Star Wars shirt uh brutally like 0.81
00:05:36.640 beat him to death beat him to death on the street like was he like inspired by Mark Hamill I don't 0.99
00:05:41.760 think he was inspired by Mark Hamill but he's probably inspired by being a Star Wars fan he's 0.95
00:05:45.140 probably inspired by I mean it's it's pretty pretty one-to-one like Mark Hamill says go kill
00:05:53.300 trump and he goes and finds like a guy who runs a trump house and beats him to death
00:05:59.000 look i'm gonna play both sides of this debate i did live by the commitment to not go see it
00:06:08.220 and and that was a tough commitment to keep because i am actually i like star wars and i
00:06:14.040 actually think so that jack's totally wrong about star wars in general and he his hatred for star
00:06:20.260 wars is terrible and it's anti-american and so many things but here here's what i will say no i
00:06:26.760 mean i'm just against lgbt agendas and people who want to let him finish i i hey i so i live by it
00:06:32.420 i didn't go see mandalorian and grogu but i'm going to defend andrew because you added me
00:06:40.020 already i'm going to defend andrew for doing this and breaking the creed because uh because there's
00:06:46.620 only so much time you have with your kids and if that's your time that you have was just last week
00:06:51.280 you know i don't think it's up to hollywood or jack basobic to dictate when you can use your
00:06:56.760 free time with your children so that's what we have to announce everyone andrew he saw the
00:07:00.980 mandalorian he didn't just see the mandalorian he he went to like the special sit down like dine-in
00:07:07.380 theater he says he was telling us it might be his favorite movie ever made that is not true
00:07:13.600 Are you sure?
00:07:14.580 I don't know.
00:07:15.340 What did you eat?
00:07:17.560 What did you eat?
00:07:18.620 I ate a burger.
00:07:20.160 Okay.
00:07:20.760 Wait, which dine-in movie theater was it?
00:07:23.000 No free ads.
00:07:23.680 It would just be vague, but it was central Phoenix area.
00:07:29.240 Central Phoenix?
00:07:30.700 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:31.040 You went to the bluest part of the state to...
00:07:33.920 I mean, it is what it is.
00:07:35.680 You went to the bluest part of the state to view basically the movie.
00:07:40.100 Given Republicans?
00:07:40.940 how did you feel during the scene where the mandalorian how did you feel about the scene
00:07:45.480 where the mandalorian turns to the camera and he says we need to work together to win back the
00:07:51.620 white house in 2028 this is maga country yeah yeah like the bad guy that i will say this the
00:07:59.180 mandalorian and grogu made a huge mistake and i don't really understand why they made this mistake
00:08:04.260 i don't like the graphic of the title no no in recent in recent years the star wars the only
00:08:12.400 thing that's really been successful in the star wars play has been them reintroducing hayden
00:08:17.040 christensen into the into like different parts of the ip and people love that because he was hated
00:08:22.400 and now he's like loved he was so bad but now he's loved he was the worst actor not like reintroducing
00:08:27.800 Darth Vader and stuff into stuff has been super, super successful. And again, I'm going to use
00:08:35.260 the Spider-Man. When they teased, intentionally made it, tried to make it secret that they were
00:08:40.820 going to do the multiverse thing and all the two previous Spider-Men were going to show up in the
00:08:46.120 movie and then it got leaked and all of that, it hyped up the movie so much that so many,
00:08:51.760 like you had to go see even if you were jack you would have and you were anti that you would have
00:08:57.420 had to go see and be part of that there was no hype for this movie so there was nothing exciting
00:09:02.380 there was no like special let me explain got leaked there was nothing it was just like this
00:09:06.820 is just like an extended episode of the mandalory yeah so let me explain what happened so my and i
00:09:12.640 don't even feel like defending myself that much because i had a great time with my son and it was
00:09:16.900 awesome and so like you know come at me um my son had a birthday he turned six and he got we
00:09:25.220 had a little party for him he got presents some of those presents people got him expecting him
00:09:31.000 to like the mandalorian because that's just what people presumed so he gets a little he gets a
00:09:36.800 little mandalorian figurine that he freaking loves he won't leave this thing alone he takes
00:09:42.440 it all over the house when he's out in the yard he's got it in his hand so he starts like inventing
00:09:47.300 all this stuff about mandalorian he finds out there's a movie coming out and he's like can we
00:09:52.120 go please please please please and so anyways i show him like the trailer and he's freaking out
00:09:57.600 so they beg me all memorial day weekend to take them to the movie i find a little pocket of time
00:10:03.680 and i was like you know what i'm gonna take i'm gonna take my son and my daughter to go see the
00:10:07.480 mandalorian he was sitting it so we the dine-in theaters they have these big seats you can like
00:10:12.800 recline or whatever he's at he's at the front edge of his seat the whole time and he's like he's like
00:10:17.560 swinging his arms like get him get him have it a blast i loved every minute of it with my son
00:10:23.260 and i so it's great i mean that's what i did it was great the children are in charge you know i
00:10:30.540 think uh you asked me if the movie was any good i was like i honestly couldn't tell you if it was
00:10:34.700 that good my son loved it and i had so much fun watching time out let me defend you jack's a 0.79
00:10:39.640 hypocrite and you know why because he totally yeah he totally took his kids to disney to i think it 0.94
00:10:48.320 was disney world oh no see you're no this is fake news and he's totally not for a long time tyler 0.98
00:10:54.820 no that was prior to the disney boycott that was prior to the disney boycott and tanya posted the
00:11:01.940 picture late hey jack you posted the picture late jack after the disney boycott jack began
00:11:09.560 there's only like five there's only like five people in america who lead boycotts and you're
00:11:15.460 one of them so you're saying you you didn't have the gumption to lead the boycott and then took
00:11:21.120 your kids to disney world no this is a pre-boycott i know you took your family to disney world and
00:11:27.680 This is like it was a pre boycott photo.
00:11:31.220 No, this is like insider trading since then and we will not go to Disney.
00:11:34.780 This is basically insider trading.
00:11:36.360 No, the guy who runs boycotts took his family to Disney World and then led the boycott afterwards knowing that he was going to lead the boycott later.
00:11:43.820 And then just to rub it in all our faces and post the picture after.
00:11:48.300 It makes me feel bad.
00:11:49.200 It's like pulling up the ladder on things like boobers.
00:11:53.280 Which is hilarious because this is from like, what, four or five years ago?
00:11:57.280 yeah um where there was this whole media like freak out on me because of this because i was
00:12:04.240 like leading a disney boycott over uh gosh some other stuff what yeah one of like the lgbt they
00:12:12.640 were doing um but it was like the first one and i called for a disney boycott but then tanya of
00:12:18.640 course like not paying attention to what i'm doing on twitter decides to post our disney photos from
00:12:24.880 like a month before like at the same time so they're like what so because at disney well
00:12:34.120 he's like calling for a boycott of disney actually funny enough i can remember insider trading
00:12:38.960 it's i think i remember the actual day we were there because it was like randomly enough it was
00:12:45.100 the day that the ukraine war started um in 2022 so i think i think that's like the very day that
00:12:52.160 we went there it was like that day or the day after was was when we were there and i remember
00:12:56.720 noticing that like everybody's still at disney and like nobody's yeah everybody seems to be 1.00
00:13:00.720 really upset i'm gonna go home and organize a boycott so we're gonna control your woman 0.96
00:13:05.300 so we're so 1.00
00:13:07.240 i'm kidding i'm kidding the woman the woman's children run his house the situation child
00:13:16.100 power i'm sure you had a stern conversation children run his household it's very clear
00:13:19.640 uh listen i had a great time with my son no regrets so by the way my kids my kids know how
00:13:24.980 to make fun of the kids who like star wars like we mock them in our household uh we deride them
00:13:30.360 we talk about how inferior they are we talk about how their parents don't have any discipline
00:13:34.980 because you went to the star wars stuff before the boycott my kids do that with lord of the
00:13:40.240 rain i see i never ascribed to the boycott first of all i don't think i was on that episode of
00:13:44.400 thought crime and i was not i wasn't so i i listen here's the other thing i would say this
00:13:50.460 has been a 10 plus year long john fevro uh directed this and i thought he did a pretty
00:13:56.700 good job on the mandalorian and it's not like wussy stuff he's like a masculine director who
00:14:01.380 actually understands really like can we show the picture of pedro pascal when he was on steven
00:14:05.780 colbert i mean masculine director we should show a picture of john i always want to say it farvo
00:14:09.740 Because it's spelled exactly like swingers, baby. Come on. I don't I've never heard of this movie actually
00:14:18.760 You've never heard of swingers. No what well first you've heard of swingers. Okay. Well, you're mad
00:14:24.400 I haven't heard of this movie that grows
00:14:28.220 1996 a year when I was aware of it, but I wasn't our Rangers. Maybe I saw it but like forever ago
00:14:33.340 anyways
00:14:35.340 Anyway, I actually also saw Star Wars, but not the Mandalorian
00:14:39.380 i saw the return of the jedi at the phoenix symphony orchestra with a with a live symphony
00:14:44.580 which i will say excellent uh i will say i went on friday night this time i'd gone to the prior
00:14:53.600 two original movies on saturday and sunday and you could definitely tell there was a different
00:14:59.760 crowd at the opening performance of this it was a slightly wait what did you see i definitely saw
00:15:05.580 more people in costumes the funniest thing I saw there was a woman Jack wants to know what you're
00:15:10.080 what you're talking about right now oh I saw I saw Return of the Jedi and no you said but you
00:15:14.500 saw other original movies what what what original movies so I know original this so I saw Empire
00:15:18.800 Strikes Back and A New Hope they've done each of the trilogy though is like almost impossible to
00:15:24.880 find the original original oh yeah and that was part of it and the CGI yes this one had that had
00:15:31.380 the terrible pop star that's singing, you know.
00:15:35.680 Yeah, I hate that.
00:15:36.520 Yeah, they kept that.
00:15:37.420 It was unfortunately the full George Lucas-ified version.
00:15:39.880 Well, they had to do that to make money off of them.
00:15:41.760 True story, true story, because...
00:15:43.400 I don't know why they don't fix that, though.
00:15:44.880 Why don't they fix that now?
00:15:46.060 Because...
00:15:46.740 The CGI is so much better now.
00:15:47.640 It's like, why can't they just make that better now?
00:15:50.080 Let's just not.
00:15:50.920 Let's just undo all of this.
00:15:52.140 Undo all of this.
00:15:53.020 But since it was opening night, there were more people in costumes, more people in strange
00:15:57.940 t-shirts more people who are
00:15:59.860 various spherical death star shapes 0.89
00:16:01.940 I saw a mom
00:16:03.840 with her daughter and I'm not making this 1.00
00:16:06.000 up she was basically in black 1.00
00:16:08.000 face because she was dressed 1.00
00:16:09.780 she was cosplaying as an Ewok and so 0.88
00:16:11.960 she had the Ewok hat 0.90
00:16:14.020 which is kind of orange that Wicket
00:16:15.900 is the name of the Ewok character but then
00:16:17.980 she painted her whole face 0.77
00:16:20.040 dark brown and it
00:16:21.940 was basically
00:16:22.520 it was basically black face and
00:16:26.020 I got a big kick out of that I don't think 1.00
00:16:27.680 I apologize, Jack, but
00:16:30.060 worth it.
00:16:32.860 That's how it is.
00:16:33.980 I didn't get him a Bud Light or something.
00:16:36.520 I'm going to
00:16:37.300 say right now, I'm going to go watch the movie
00:16:39.920 with my kids.
00:16:42.180 It's literally the Bud Light of
00:16:43.920 movies.
00:16:46.200 The thing is
00:16:47.800 I've heard it's terrible, actually.
00:16:49.420 It's not bad.
00:16:51.100 Why not go see Michael?
00:16:53.700 Here's the Favreau
00:16:55.560 argument. The kiddie diddler? 0.98
00:16:57.680 I'm just kidding.
00:16:58.580 I saw Michael.
00:16:59.820 I saw Michael.
00:17:00.920 The one who was falsely accused.
00:17:03.460 My take on the Michael.
00:17:05.040 I still don't know what I think about that, but yeah.
00:17:08.500 It's obviously fake.
00:17:10.480 My take on the Michael movie was that it wasn't as good as everyone said it was.
00:17:15.300 I didn't say it.
00:17:16.260 It was well made.
00:17:17.140 It was better.
00:17:18.100 It was well made, but I thought.
00:17:20.460 Anyway, let's go back.
00:17:21.360 I still think with the Favreau thing,
00:17:23.260 excuse me like he was like executive producer i think on like like a ton of marvel like good
00:17:32.640 movies that like every single one of those movies had like a major hook into it that had like like
00:17:40.360 it was just chock full of um what do they call them when it's like a set pieces no like uh
00:17:47.220 just like a special thing that happens in it like that that's unexpected what they call that twist
00:17:52.140 not a twist no a uh a jump scare it had something that they had a bunch of stuff a bunch of things
00:17:59.100 in it and that this movie has none of that yeah it's just very like a lot of action forward yeah
00:18:06.000 a lot of but it's just like an action straightforward there's nothing that's like
00:18:10.000 the star wars cinematic the universe that star wars is in has so many different things in it now
00:18:16.060 that it's actually criminal to me
00:18:18.400 to not have any
00:18:20.200 like secret things that
00:18:22.220 pop up in it that aren't huge.
00:18:25.060 Easter eggs, that's the word.
00:18:26.320 There was like no Easter eggs in this movie.
00:18:28.460 Yeah, well, I would tell you that
00:18:29.840 me and Foz were having this conversation because
00:18:32.240 it's like a lot of people like to 0.96
00:18:34.200 crap on the movie. It's not good or whatever. It's like,
00:18:36.200 well, okay, but imagine
00:18:37.760 kids. It's a movie that
00:18:40.200 kids would really get into and
00:18:42.060 I had so much fun with my kids, so I
00:18:44.000 appreciate it for that i'm not like gonna do the full movie critic thing on it uh i don't you know
00:18:48.860 it's a it's an action film in the star wars universe and test i know how about we do this
00:18:56.220 um is it gonna break even that's a question jack that you might appreciate it probably still was
00:19:01.960 successful so here's a quick clip of matt damon discussing yeah i don't think it is actually how
00:19:07.280 much a movie needs to make
00:19:08.860 clip 13 or
00:19:11.240 clip 3 sorry clip 3
00:19:12.580 oh that's probably 13
00:19:16.720 now let's do clip 3
00:19:18.120 clip 3 clip 3 abort abort
00:19:20.380 you're trying to get everybody
00:19:21.800 spending about what the budget was to make it to advertise
00:19:24.340 50% of the theatrical
00:19:26.600 yeah cause you split it with the movie house
00:19:28.580 right through the exhibitor
00:19:29.360 so a 25 million dollar movie to break even you gotta make 100 million dollars
00:19:31.800 to publicize
00:19:33.420 so that movie
00:19:34.900 that movie mandalorian cost about 180 million dollars so that would mean wait that cost 180
00:19:40.600 million dollars to make that movie but and it's 180 million you have to double that because of um
00:19:46.900 that's why that's why it's four times 360 which means you need to you need to make 360 times two
00:19:54.640 720 million dollars to break even 720 i don't think this thing's gonna make 720 million dollars
00:19:59.880 unless china just goes gaga for baby yoda yeah is it 360 times two or is it to break even or is
00:20:07.480 it we were taking 360 times two because one they split it with the the movie houses so if you bring
00:20:13.500 in 700 and because 180 times two 720 million you you take half of that as profit the movie houses
00:20:21.940 take the other half so if you're going to break even you need that much so i mean and there's no
00:20:26.860 like dvd sales anymore there's no dvd there's no the television rights you could put them on
00:20:31.640 streaming platforms but that's not you could get it off of merch like a lot of mandalorian
00:20:36.480 baby baby but do they do they get new merch out of this really they already had baby yoda
00:20:40.600 came out i'm just like this is what i'm saying the merch already existed for this yeah but it
00:20:45.200 would it would it doesn't have any new merch has to be new sales yeah but think about help
00:20:48.960 new sales think about my son got a action figure for his birthday party because somebody bought it 0.70
00:20:53.900 listen listen i i could see my my my people in in my our area know not to bring that crap into
00:21:01.440 my household i could be better than favreau at this than he is right now like think about if 0.94
00:21:07.060 they would have introduced another another baby yoda or a child by the way did you know grogu is
00:21:15.700 not baby yoda no i know it's not i know but we call him that i really don't care i don't know
00:21:19.960 i just don't care no but but imagine a a sibling to baby yoda like think about think about when
00:21:27.960 uh guardians of the galaxy came out and they cut down uh group and then he turned into baby group
00:21:34.720 baby group yeah remember and it was regular group and there was baby group you're thinking about the
00:21:39.320 merch when you think about the characters in the story how do you run a billion dollar multi-billion
00:21:43.940 dollar franchise and nobody thinks about the merch and like they produced no like your point
00:21:50.640 is a really good point it's like they produce nothing in this movie that could be its own
00:21:54.920 merch when baby yoda was introduced in the mandalorian that produced like the biggest
00:21:59.240 boom in merch the only part that was kind of cool was that uh job of the huts like what i don't know
00:22:04.160 it's like his son yeah uh is in this and he's like he's like a he's like a gladiator no one's 0.99
00:22:11.740 which is stupid which is really stupid yeah but it was like that's not it was kind of stupid let's 0.99
00:22:16.600 take a character who's famously a slug that just sits there and is like lazy and has everyone else 1.00
00:22:21.980 and now we have jacked you know squats 500 yeah no like it'd be like 5 000 but yeah so wait okay
00:22:29.600 jack just so i'm clear um if you just take the nine movies in the series right from the original
00:22:37.320 four then the so four five six one two three and then seven eight nine which is your favorite of
00:22:45.280 that or do you just like you're so boycott that you don't care or i mean i i mean i will send you
00:22:51.600 i will tell you that i just texted you the link to watch all the despecialized uh star wars
00:22:58.080 editions from the originals um so you can you know if you really want to you can watch genuinely the
00:23:05.580 most important thing to me i cannot stand the like boo-boo cgi from like what was it like
00:23:09.780 1998 i think because this is a fan a fan project um and you can find it on archive
00:23:18.480 so what the fans did was they went in and they like upscaled um you know to like i think it's
00:23:25.720 this is 720k or 720p rather um you know to make it look crisp uh you know on a on a modern screen
00:23:33.740 but also preserving the original of the original series which yeah so the like if i were still
00:23:40.720 watching star wars i would watch the original originals i would not be watching which one of
00:23:45.020 those is your favorite i would not be watching the lucas edited editions with like the ewok
00:23:50.180 eyelids or han shooting second okay or any jack you're evading the question here what's your
00:23:55.600 favorite yeah i just said that no no your favorite film not your favorite these these are the ones
00:24:02.700 i'd be watching if i were watching which one of these three which episode oh which one of these
00:24:07.500 three um i don't know uh i never thought of it um i i guess probably jedi i'd have to say jedi
00:24:16.840 that's my favorite return i'm i'm an absolutist the original star wars film is the best one and
00:24:22.320 it's actually i would say a new hope but i'm just i just call it star wars most of the time
00:24:26.200 because i think that's the only one that's actually a transcendently great film i think
00:24:29.780 that is a genuinely great film start to finish every scene is good amazingly edited amazingly
00:24:34.900 scored caboose what's the best standalone i like the uh i just just to to give the answer i like
00:24:40.320 the um on jedi i like the the story of redemption the story of like atonement redemption yeah um
00:24:47.120 you know a lot of a lot of christian themes i'm gonna push back on that i think the story of
00:24:52.700 redemption in star wars is actually kind of bad it's it's bad in the sense it's presented in this
00:24:59.120 bizarre, facile way
00:25:01.540 that almost doesn't make sense. So first of all
00:25:03.540 all we know of Vader is that
00:25:05.540 he goes and he commits genocide and does
00:25:07.320 insanely evil things and chokes people and then you show up
00:25:09.520 in Return of the Jedi and Luke just says
00:25:11.020 I know you're still good, Father. I know there's still good
00:25:13.480 in you. What? Where is
00:25:15.560 there any evidence that there's good in him? There's been none.
00:25:18.120 There's just been no actual
00:25:19.700 external evidence of this. Well there is if you
00:25:21.540 watch the first three. And it presents
00:25:23.360 becoming a
00:25:25.620 good person. He just is watching
00:25:27.680 his son get tortured to death and then he goes like no and then he grabs the emperor and throws
00:25:31.180 him down the elevator shaft spoilers for everyone and then like oh he's now good and he's on the
00:25:35.260 light side again i think a lot of bad art has come out of that like the presentation of good
00:25:42.500 and evil almost like a light switch you're on the light side one moment oh bam you switch to
00:25:46.420 the dark side and then you could switch back again comic books do this well he didn't just
00:25:50.840 bam switch back when no i you're like you're just like leaving out a lot of the plot of the movie
00:25:55.920 What happened? What does Darth Vader do in that movie? That's good. Other than, other than throw the emperor down on the elevator shaft.
00:26:01.180 Very key things. Like he delivers his son to be tortured by the emperor. The emperor starts torturing him. It's through that torture that he starts remembering what his son says. And then he goes and kills the emperor.
00:26:12.080 Okay. So it's like a light switch. He doesn't just automatically switch over. 1.00
00:26:16.500 he's just a good guy again
00:26:17.740 and then we're treated this
00:26:20.500 as his great redemption
00:26:21.460 I don't think I would undo
00:26:22.940 I think if 0.99
00:26:24.080 Hitler had a son 0.98
00:26:27.640 I think if some guy 0.87
00:26:30.200 worked for Hitler and saw Hitler 0.57
00:26:32.360 torturing his son and then suddenly threw Hitler down an elevator shaft 0.89
00:26:34.700 but that guy had otherwise 0.82
00:26:36.120 run Auschwitz I don't think we would say that
00:26:38.100 that undid running Auschwitz
00:26:39.520 I totally disagree you're totally skipping over
00:26:41.740 an empire when
00:26:44.160 the interactions that they had
00:26:46.160 together that led him to the moment of him like recognizing and reconnecting with his son yeah
00:26:53.780 isn't there and identifying i mean the most the most famous line in star wars history is not in
00:26:59.840 a new hope yeah and that's also bad i think that that is everyone remembers that and yet that's
00:27:05.760 also a sign of not just decline in star wars but decline in our pop culture as well which is
00:27:10.340 let's make an out of nowhere plot twist that's kind of irrelevant out of nowhere of course
00:27:16.060 out of nowhere they only made it up for the second movie it wasn't in the first movie george lucas 0.97
00:27:21.400 goes back and says oh i totally had it planned from the beginning george lucas is full of crap
00:27:24.500 george lucas is making that up george lucas is making it up as he goes throughout the entire
00:27:28.840 trilogy yeah i i i totally think that that plot twist and the way that they were able to keep it
00:27:35.860 under wraps for so long what is like one of the greatest parts it's one of the greatest moments
00:27:42.680 in American cinematic history
00:27:45.040 is that they were able to keep
00:27:46.880 that completely secret.
00:27:49.680 And again, you talk about twists.
00:27:51.620 That's like what made Star Wars
00:27:53.380 like a long-lasting franchise.
00:27:55.400 It wasn't A New Hope that was good
00:27:57.500 and that made everyone go bonkers.
00:27:59.380 It was the fact that they followed it up
00:28:00.980 with such a crazy plot twist
00:28:02.820 that it basically forced America
00:28:06.620 to like Star Wars, unlike Jack,
00:28:09.680 like real Americans, like Star Wars.
00:28:11.920 you have to like star wars if you want to actually consider yourself a citizen and it also it took
00:28:16.660 us down the dark path which we remain on today uh you have this giant universe where anything can
00:28:21.640 happen and there's quadrillions of people in infinity planets and actually everything is
00:28:25.760 just the family drama of one group of people that's actually like real life though no it's
00:28:30.100 not in real life not everything is a family drama with one family or at least it wasn't like that
00:28:34.360 there's only so many families that people care about tyler's tyler's dumping on me so i want to
00:28:39.700 dump on him and his like his like weakness um in in not being able to actually like hold on to a
00:28:47.020 boycott because like it's not hard you just don't give money to people you hate who hate you especially 0.62
00:28:51.100 if you already gave money to them right before announcing them hey i showed up today so that
00:28:55.140 you could convince me to not follow the the path of the dark side with andrew and and go watch this
00:29:03.640 movie i i mean it's really not hard to not do anything like in fact you're not watching it
00:29:08.760 right now like you're you're you're actively not watching it there's nothing that's been said so
00:29:13.700 far that actually makes me not want to watch this movie so here's here's um homosexuality
00:29:19.240 it promotes people who hate us all right so subtle hints what's the game still had good in him 0.60
00:29:25.600 in a new hope they show hit that one scene there is a one the human vulnerability where they reveal
00:29:32.480 Vader's scarred face in the
00:29:34.060 meditation chamber.
00:29:35.900 Isn't that in the second movie?
00:29:38.340 No, that's a new hope.
00:29:39.880 They show the helmet coming down.
00:29:41.860 That's definitely the second movie, bro.
00:29:43.640 Definitely the second movie.
00:29:44.280 Okay, this write-up says it's in the first one.
00:29:46.340 Is your write-up generated by a robot
00:29:48.420 on the internet?
00:29:49.720 A Cloud City duel,
00:29:52.100 Vader dominates but doesn't kill Luke.
00:29:54.700 That's also the second movie.
00:29:56.240 I'm saying the first movie.
00:29:58.640 This is why my argument was Empire.
00:30:00.500 The Empire's the best movie.
00:30:01.560 they made this up for the second movie so so that luke you can destroy the emperor this is from
00:30:06.580 empire strikes back you can destroy the emperor he has foreseen this it is your destiny join me
00:30:10.700 and together we can rule the galaxy as father and son yes all right so so protective but hesitant
00:30:15.880 actions he wants luke to turn but stop short of lethal force at key points okay but episode
00:30:21.660 so that so he's he's trying to bring him in okay episode this is weak why ai generated
00:30:29.500 bad arguments. No, no, no, this is all good.
00:30:32.000 And then Luke, this is the stuff you're talking about.
00:30:33.900 Luke says, I can tell there's
00:30:35.820 good in you. Search your feelings, Father.
00:30:37.800 You can do this. I feel the conflicts within you. Let go
00:30:39.860 of your hate. Vader denies it, but
00:30:41.700 hesitation proves Luke right.
00:30:44.120 Yeah, so episode five
00:30:45.880 is the best because
00:30:47.780 again, it solidifies
00:30:50.180 episode four.
00:30:52.040 If there's only two movies that ever
00:30:53.860 get created, it would be four or five.
00:30:56.040 Five was a great
00:30:57.260 follow-up to a great
00:30:59.160 movie which i agree is standalone is the best movies for but it was not we're not talking
00:31:04.320 standalone we're talking about a lot different movies five starts to show the cracks in invaders
00:31:12.860 uh sithness or whatever right and and then six it is just kind of like you expected that to happen
00:31:22.280 i'm even six they're making it up like the whole like leia's luke's totally made up made it up on
00:31:27.880 You know this is like going in to watch
00:31:29.860 six. Again, I'm putting myself in the
00:31:31.880 80s. I'm going in
00:31:33.640 to watch episode six in theaters.
00:31:36.860 Your expectation...
00:31:37.760 It's not called episode six. It's called Return of the Jedi.
00:31:39.900 Yeah, Return of the Jedi in the 80s, right?
00:31:42.980 The third
00:31:43.800 in the trilogy. Third installment.
00:31:46.140 You are expecting that
00:31:47.720 Vader turns in that movie.
00:31:50.440 Yeah. Are you not?
00:31:51.700 I don't know. I didn't know in the 80s.
00:31:53.640 What's the most exciting movie? The most exciting
00:31:55.660 movie is Empire, where it's
00:31:57.620 You were blown away.
00:31:59.140 Your socks were knocked off.
00:32:00.700 You loved one.
00:32:02.220 Two blew your mind with that he's his dad.
00:32:06.340 You're dying to go to the third installment of the trilogy.
00:32:10.880 And the trilogy delivers exactly what you expected it to do.
00:32:14.000 Yeah.
00:32:14.980 I'm going to have to agree with that.
00:32:15.880 And then, by the way, the next most exciting moment in cinematic history
00:32:21.760 in the Star Wars realm was in episode one.
00:32:24.600 and the poor guy that played Jar Jar Binks
00:32:27.460 got hated his
00:32:29.220 entire life for something
00:32:31.220 that he had to do. 0.95
00:32:32.880 Without Jar Jar Binks, you do not have 0.72
00:32:35.440 the positives in that
00:32:37.300 movie. At the time, I remember
00:32:39.260 going into that.
00:32:40.980 You guys are really making a hard sell here.
00:32:43.520 I'm just saying, if there's
00:32:45.580 three movies in a row to
00:32:47.240 I agree, four and five,
00:32:49.340 but four and five are a package duo. You have to
00:32:51.340 like them one and two or two or one.
00:32:52.840 like like that has to be your either the the fifth episode uh empire has to be your number one
00:32:59.640 and and new hope has to be number two or vice versa but my argument would be the next best
00:33:06.340 the next best moment actually comes in episode three not because the movie because the movie
00:33:11.280 sucks except for the end part the last five minutes of that movie like it doesn't leave you
00:33:18.560 you know it's really funny actually um just to talk about like how media is consumed differently
00:33:24.700 today than when we were kids um i i don't think i when i was a kid i'd only ever seen
00:33:31.620 you know um star wars and jedi i never saw empire until i was in like high school really and
00:33:40.740 yeah because i i used to just like not you know rent it or was it because jedi was on tv all the
00:33:48.380 time dude i remember jedi being on tv or something and i would see it and like just the way the way
00:33:55.100 that you would interact with media was so different because like you would turn it on and be like oh
00:33:58.760 yeah i'm gonna watch the star wars for a while and then you'd watch this other one and then for
00:34:03.000 whatever reason i just never watched empire probably until like 98 or so oh you know what
00:34:09.180 it was when they um when they released the the special editions which is right before the prequels
00:34:13.500 came out so i guess it was like the 20 i watched them in the theaters i remember i watched the
00:34:18.620 re-releases in the theaters because they made a big hype about it it like oh lucas re-releases
00:34:24.000 the originals in the theaters with all this new cgi and i thought okay here we go and i don't think
00:34:29.580 at the time i had the lens to see how bad it was but if you watch them back now it's like they're
00:34:33.360 terrible it's awful um what can you imagine only watching star wars but only watching the dialogue
00:34:40.500 jack only what are you talking about that doesn't make any sense that doesn't make any sense a movie
00:34:45.460 is like basically not only star wars but all media like that is an interesting segue then jack
00:34:53.320 because that's our next topic um yes the trend of reading dialogue instead of an entire novel
00:35:01.240 all right yes loves this i i really like it so this this came out in a recent discovery
00:35:07.280 uh this was a tweet i believe uh so throw up number four on screen but this was someone
00:35:13.960 remarking on x the other day finding out someone says can we please normalize achievable reading
00:35:19.320 girls 30 or more books a year is not common and then uh this other person ollie b replied
00:35:24.600 finding out that people on book talk that is tiktok book readers uh they skip everything
00:35:30.120 but dialogue, which makes reading 30 plus a year books make a lot more sense. And let's see,
00:35:37.760 I think they said another thing. And then someone goes, but this is smart. I hate all of the
00:35:41.780 descriptions. Like I can't even envision it. And it is boring. Although when I write, I feel like
00:35:47.740 I need to add stuff like that in to make a good book crying face. And then all of you says that
00:35:53.560 is not reading or writing. The descriptions are the book. And the person replies, I prioritize
00:35:59.220 character development and plot others prioritize prose declaring one real over the other is such
00:36:06.920 a weird form of literary gatekeeping wow literary gatekeeping if you want people to
00:36:14.160 read the whole book and not just this makes so much sense and it's really deeply revealing
00:36:20.460 like you know this explains like dude this explains so much about what i've experienced
00:36:28.840 deal you know doing like this kind of stuff and media commentary whatever on uh on content over
00:36:35.240 the last funny enough uh so today i guess is my twitter anniversary my exiversary i've been on
00:36:42.140 on twitter for 14 years as of today and and uh you know people um who know the backstory know
00:36:50.780 that i originally got on to crap on the hbo's game of thrones from the perspective of a book
00:36:56.460 reader who was very upset about it and uh long story short we're here now and what's what's 0.92
00:37:03.900 hilarious is that i used to encounter people like this all the time who were just filthy casuals
00:37:11.500 who clearly like they would these we used to call them sjw's back in the day but they were like
00:37:17.740 these supporters of the characters like oh i'm a denarius supporter or like oh i could never be
00:37:23.740 friends with the status supporter i'm like what are you talking about like just just watch the
00:37:28.220 show or like read the book like why do you have to like be on a side of a character or something
00:37:34.140 like do you like it or not and i came to find that these people like saw themselves or saw
00:37:42.060 characters as themselves rather than as their own you know a character that was objectively
00:37:48.940 a separate individual and so this makes so much sense to me because we're dealing with people now
00:37:56.620 and book talk is huge by the way it's all over the place you see it you see it everywhere uh
00:38:00.860 when i talked about that that one show uh or that that one book series that got turned into a movie
00:38:05.980 with sydney sweeney about killing your husband called the handmaiden or excuse me the housemaiden
00:38:10.300 you know it uh house housemaid housemaid that uh like it it was a you know really rode the um
00:38:16.380 you know the book talk uh carousel if you will and that's what's going on they're not actually
00:38:22.780 reading these things they're not meant to be fully read it's just like a oh here's what it'd be like 0.88
00:38:28.380 if you killed your husband la la la la and then women go out and like start thinking that way and
00:38:33.820 start like hating i think there's a lot to that like has read more books this is this is so 0.86
00:38:38.300 revealing to me blake blake but you read a lot of history i know and it so it fluctuates a lot
00:38:43.820 certainly in the number i can read so like this year i think i've probably read like 11 or 12
00:38:49.580 books this year but they are pretty hefty i'm getting through uh i'm reading imperial china
00:38:55.260 by F.W. Moat, maybe H.W. Moat.
00:38:57.540 No, but what I'm saying is
00:38:59.160 that is distinct from a fiction.
00:39:02.260 True, true.
00:39:02.820 I fluctuate a lot in how much fiction I read.
00:39:05.660 I've read, because when you're reading it,
00:39:08.060 you kind of go on a streak
00:39:09.400 and read a lot by one author in one series.
00:39:13.280 I haven't read.
00:39:14.420 I read C.S. Lewis.
00:39:16.680 I read C.S. Lewis this year.
00:39:19.560 I read That Hideous Strength and Paralandra,
00:39:21.900 so the later parts of his Space Trilogy.
00:39:23.800 Those are all right.
00:39:25.260 I read, I'm reading a big long novel about ancient Rome, which is like, okay, I'd say.
00:39:30.340 It's the Masters of Rome series.
00:39:32.240 Have you ever heard of that one?
00:39:33.540 Colleen McCullough just wrote, went and wrote 7,000 page long books about ancient Rome.
00:39:38.180 But they're all right.
00:39:38.900 They're all right.
00:39:39.840 Yeah, but could you imagine reading fiction and only reading the dialogue?
00:39:44.820 What would you miss?
00:39:46.380 I feel like you'd miss a lot.
00:39:47.480 Among other things, you probably miss what's actually happening.
00:39:50.120 You'd miss like everything.
00:39:51.000 Sometimes in a book, they'll describe major events in the plot that are not dialogue.
00:39:55.960 I love that the first tweet that you guys sent in the chat about this one was like,
00:40:00.260 what is happening?
00:40:01.540 What, what, what?
00:40:02.640 Yeah.
00:40:02.960 Like, somebody's freaking out, discovering that this is like a trend.
00:40:07.000 And by the way, I feel like this is keeping up with the Joneses energy.
00:40:12.140 Like, they want to be able to say, oh, I read all these books, but you actually didn't read
00:40:15.600 the books.
00:40:15.980 It's like, you didn't actually do a thing, and you want to claim credit for it.
00:40:20.360 And that, to me, is the most offensive part about this.
00:40:22.980 It's, yeah, you're missing the art.
00:40:24.280 You're missing everything.
00:40:25.140 But it's this weird drive to sort of say, like, I read 14 books or something.
00:40:29.140 And that gets into another part.
00:40:30.400 Someone pointed out that in addition to people just skipping large chunks of the book,
00:40:33.900 the way a lot of these books are consumed is they'll just take an audio book of it
00:40:38.340 and they'll run it at one and a half, two times, three times speed
00:40:42.560 as, like, constant background track of their life.
00:40:46.720 And you miss all the joy of a book.
00:40:49.620 like the only reason i like to read is because it's like i put the kids down and i sit there
00:40:55.000 with a book and i i'm fully consumed yeah and i really don't think anything can be read any other
00:41:01.560 way we don't count children's books a book read quickly is kind of a book not read at all if it's
00:41:07.680 of any substance i got to count children's books in my book total in my in my wait andrew's like
00:41:12.960 i'm engrossed in this really big series it's called c spot run this it's amazing yeah just
00:41:18.640 he just this dog just he just if i could if i could count children's books in my book my book
00:41:24.000 total in a year it would literally it would be in the hundreds i mean all right well the funny
00:41:28.440 thing is that so many of these books they're reading even frankly even if they have graphic
00:41:33.200 sex or like whatever stuff a lot of them are still effectively children's books they are written at
00:41:37.280 a child's reading level that's really depressing very depressing that's actually a really good
00:41:41.200 point too because if you i i did read um uh housemaid and then it was very very juvenile
00:41:49.360 writing very amateurish it's it's kind of like i guess this started with um what was that series
00:41:54.840 50 shades of gray where it was like a fan fiction of twilight that later became a uh you know like
00:42:01.560 like book series in its own right and then a movie series in its own right where you just get this
00:42:06.380 like really really just so no but this is a big concern you know like grade school level writing
00:42:14.520 it's a big concern because are we just becoming dumber as a culture and i think like the answer
00:42:18.940 is undoubtedly yes which is troublesome it's problematic i want to we played one of these
00:42:25.560 matt damon clips uh and so i'm gonna play another one because i think it's really telling uh clip
00:42:29.500 seven netflix um you know the standard way to make an action movie that we learned was you know
00:42:36.520 you usually have like three set pieces one in the first act one in the second one in the third and
00:42:40.980 you know you kind of they kind of ramp up and the big one with all the explosions and you spend most
00:42:45.000 of your money on that one in the third act that's your kind of finale um and now they're you know
00:42:49.840 they're like can we get a big one in the first five minutes to get some but you know we want
00:42:54.000 people to stay tuned in
00:42:56.060 and it wouldn't
00:42:58.040 be terrible if you reiterated
00:43:00.300 the plot three or four times in the
00:43:02.000 dialogue because people are on their phones
00:43:04.160 while they're watching, you know what I mean?
00:43:07.860 It's the most depressing thing. It's really bad.
00:43:10.160 This is totally true though. This is how I watch movies
00:43:12.020 though. This is how you do the show.
00:43:15.120 This is the fall
00:43:16.380 of civilization in a nutshell
00:43:18.360 and you see it everywhere and I think
00:43:20.240 we would be... This is how
00:43:21.880 this is how you plan the show for me is you get me drawn in the first part and then i and then i
00:43:26.820 sleep through blake's part in the middle and then i show up at the end oh oh okay that's how it's
00:43:31.240 gonna be well tyler's just throwing out zingers just banger after banger well this is this is
00:43:37.520 the fall this is the fall of civilization though it's as simple as that i totally just i i i totally
00:43:42.400 think that this is fine this is not fine yeah it's fine that we can't follow a plot or a book
00:43:49.040 and people are subliterate.
00:43:50.240 No, it's just life is different.
00:43:51.160 It's not about that.
00:43:51.980 It's about attention spans.
00:43:52.640 Yeah, life is worse.
00:43:53.860 Yeah, life is worse
00:43:54.820 and attention spans worse.
00:43:55.600 Yeah, but it's not going back.
00:43:55.880 And that is the fall of civilization.
00:43:57.260 And it's not going back.
00:43:58.360 It's like, we're not going to get rid of cell phones.
00:44:00.220 We're not going to like...
00:44:00.840 I know.
00:44:01.240 And eventually,
00:44:02.140 civilization will just implode.
00:44:03.560 We're not able to achieve great things anymore.
00:44:05.500 No, I mean, like, it's going to get worse.
00:44:07.720 Yeah.
00:44:08.340 We can achieve great things, though,
00:44:09.680 because the movie Michael is right there
00:44:11.780 for all of us to see,
00:44:12.740 and it's amazing,
00:44:13.580 and everyone should go see it.
00:44:14.380 So what if...
00:44:15.300 Okay, I can understand
00:44:16.220 not thinking michael jackson is guilty yeah you seem really invested are you invested are you
00:44:20.800 financially are you financially tied to the success of michael look at you conspiracy theorists like
00:44:26.360 you're just trying to take away my joy you're just trying to take away my joy of of loving
00:44:31.540 michael jackson no what are your top 30 favorite michael jackson songs no who cares about that
00:44:40.220 30. I don't know about 30.
00:44:41.720 No, I bet you you have a list in your head.
00:44:43.420 I can tell top five.
00:44:45.360 So I could here's here's the thing, though, is my kids will get home
00:44:49.820 and then Jack Jack will be like be like, Daddy, can you put on Thriller?
00:44:53.020 And I'll put on Thriller and he starts like moonwalking throughout the living room
00:44:56.460 or, you know, he'll put on we'll put on beat it.
00:44:58.980 We'll put on bad.
00:44:59.660 We'll put on whatever, you know, and here at Billie Jean, obviously like
00:45:04.420 man in the middle, black and white, black or white.
00:45:07.060 you've already named more michael jackson songs than i could name we'll put on no i mean he's
00:45:13.700 legitimately uh you think i've always been a michael jackson fan you think you think michael
00:45:19.460 was like a 10 out of 10 movie no uh well it's it's it depends on what you're you're you're going
00:45:26.660 for like the experience that we had was 10 out of 10 yes if you want to judge it like mandalorian
00:45:33.380 critic hat on like i don't know if i'd go all that all the way in i just know that like in my
00:45:38.940 family and cernovich was saying the same thing by the way that it's totally infected his household
00:45:43.020 do and so like we're now both living like the michael jackson life we're like it's like the
00:45:48.520 music's on all the time the kids love it we love it you know it's just just a good time yeah no
00:45:53.600 that's cool but see i support that if that's your like can i say your family can i can i say this
00:45:59.340 about the michael movie i thought the michael movie was good i learned a couple of things
00:46:02.260 Like, generally, most Americans know, like, way too much about Michael Jackson than they really do.
00:46:06.980 But you do learn some stuff, I think.
00:46:09.280 But, yeah, I didn't realize how they had, like, I learned about, and by the way, I thought it was really cool how the family came together to really honor Michael to make that movie and do all that.
00:46:19.580 Correct.
00:46:20.460 And I thought that was really tasteful.
00:46:22.220 It's his nephew.
00:46:23.700 Yeah, and it's his nephew.
00:46:25.280 That was really cool.
00:46:26.440 Oh, that plays him?
00:46:27.740 Yeah.
00:46:28.900 Is it?
00:46:29.960 Yeah, so his actual, that's not CGI.
00:46:32.260 that's his actual nephew that i mean yeah i think i'm sure he uses like a little bit of makeup or
00:46:36.420 something whose son is it that's his jermaine that's is it germaine's son uh shoot i think
00:46:43.260 it's germaine's that kind of reminds me of straight out of compton where it was actually
00:46:46.960 ice cube's son who played ice cube yeah that's cool like that was good i think it's cool like
00:46:51.340 it tells a story about a family and there's a lot of heartache that's involved with their family
00:46:55.060 like and that that's cool and like everybody clearly disliked the dad and like they wanted
00:47:01.600 to get that point across and like kind of 1.00
00:47:03.720 sucks if you're a dad but the dad's such a jerk 1.00
00:47:05.900 you know but like don't be a bad dad 1.00
00:47:07.620 like I mean don't be a bad dad is kind of a theme
00:47:09.740 that comes out of that I thought it was really interesting
00:47:11.700 that I didn't realize they had so
00:47:13.700 many exotic animals
00:47:15.560 just running around I didn't know that
00:47:17.480 either yeah it wasn't just the monkey
00:47:18.880 no they had like giraffes and
00:47:21.360 all sorts of stuff like
00:47:22.700 medieval quote that's kind of
00:47:25.080 when we have it on
00:47:27.040 my AJ will be like
00:47:29.620 we'll be like daddy daddy get to the snake part i want to see the snake part well and for me like
00:47:34.820 actually like one of the things i pulled away from it and maybe this is subconsciously for america
00:47:39.060 hopefully was that like how cool is that like one of the themes that was in it too was that a family
00:47:44.420 went from basically nothing you know to like living like quite literally the american dream
00:47:49.780 and nobody nobody's like nobody like like psycho psycho leftist came out of that like you want to
00:47:55.780 like a factory like me boy how dare they have safari safari animals like living on their
00:48:02.340 property and that like but i thought that was pretty cool and i think that's a cliche though
00:48:07.400 that we like teach black people like if you're gonna get the american dream it's gonna be through
00:48:11.100 like you're gonna be a rapper or an nba no but it played it but it played into this whole thing of
00:48:16.240 like clearly michael jackson like in part one of the themes too and that movie was like he never
00:48:21.520 like he never progressed or grew up like he goes kind of trapped he kind of was trapped they show
00:48:27.360 that yeah they totally show that that he was like and i think that actually gave a lot more insight
00:48:32.560 to a lot of the misnomers that people took that kind of claimed that he was like this this terrible
00:48:38.360 person but he was like really like what they were saying is like this kid this guy was a kid
00:48:42.500 since the time because the dad made like kept him in this kid zone that he never got to experience
00:48:48.300 is i don't i'm not saying we're done with this topic but i do think this is a weird intro like
00:48:52.740 we have this other topic talking about millennials and gen z no it's an interesting segue yeah it's
00:48:57.020 a really interesting yeah we got we got to dive into this michael jackson's dad definitely believed
00:49:01.620 in corporal punishment uh well and then and then so andrew you haven't seen the film right no i
00:49:06.580 haven't and they blamed so this is a huge scene in the movie and you know spoiler whatever but
00:49:12.480 there's a huge scene you know pretty early on um where he he you know michael doesn't want to
00:49:19.060 perform properly and this is back when he's like jackson five michael jackson like really young
00:49:24.240 and before they've even taken off and his his dad he like talks back to his dad and he's like
00:49:32.020 you're gonna show me respect and just pulls the belt off and just starts whipping him and they
00:49:36.300 show it on screen and he's like freaking out he's crying and that's that's what tyler's referring
00:49:42.940 to when he says it kind of you know it kind of shows you you know perhaps some of those uh forces
00:49:50.240 and family dynamics that maybe well and i you know made michael kind of like have this like childlike
00:49:56.820 you know personality even as he grew up kind of i think culturally like psychologically frozen
00:50:02.340 there we heard these stories you you know like and then i think as a culture we got away from
00:50:07.820 uh spanking and apparently according to new study uh or new reporting uh i guess gen z is returning
00:50:16.280 to this apparently can we see number nine put it on the screen shocking number of millennial and
00:50:24.360 gen z parents spanked their kids study says necessary to raise a child properly so go around
00:50:31.120 the go around the horn i believe in spanking i don't do it very often but i'm not opposed to
00:50:36.860 doing it uh you believe in i see no reason to oppose it uh tyler no i don't oppose it i think
00:50:45.160 it's i i i think it i think there's like anything limits yeah i don't believe in like just taking 0.50
00:50:52.540 off your belt and whipping the crap out of your kid for like i think there's people that probably
00:50:56.760 take like it's a it it's as close to like getting to child abuse like from a physical standpoint 0.98
00:51:05.260 like you shouldn't you shouldn't well you can't do it in anger so this is this is the thing if
00:51:08.980 you're gonna if you're gonna uh spank your child you need to be controlled you need to have your
00:51:14.100 emotions like in check you can't be going like i'm gonna get like that's you could do some damage 0.95
00:51:19.580 there actually psychologically but if you do it and be like listen i told you i'm gonna like so
00:51:24.020 we do a thing in our house like i'm gonna move your body if you refuse to like come to me when
00:51:27.660 we're asking i'm gonna physically move you you have one more option one more chance and then
00:51:32.400 they either come or they don't and then if it escalates like well listen like you know so we'll
00:51:36.360 do like soap in the mouth we actually do that oh wow okay i never ran into that one they they hate
00:51:41.560 it or put like a little um like a little like tabasco on their tongue they can't stand that
00:51:46.720 it's like i think yeah but but like so there's other ways to do it so we don't really spank
00:51:51.580 that often but we do find ways to just like you know make make it so that they don't want to
00:51:57.540 experience the the accountability jack are you uh pro or against yeah i think i'm more in your
00:52:04.380 like the camp that you're saying there we're like we don't like spank but there are lots of things
00:52:10.980 that we do um in terms of discipline i haven't i haven't ever done the tabasco thing and it's like
00:52:17.020 i almost don't want to say this out loud but i just want to say that we um i remember my parents
00:52:23.020 doing that um because i had a bit of a mouth when i was a kid and still do um and definitely remember
00:52:29.660 the basketball and the tongue and uh uh i will just say i have not encountered a situation that
00:52:36.300 necessitated it yet and you know praise god and and hopefully we won't have to but you know that's
00:52:41.900 that's certainly on the on the list um one thing that we do though is uh you know we definitely do
00:52:47.680 push-ups we definitely you know you do something wrong it's like dropping any 10 and if you're not
00:52:52.720 make them sit and playing for well and it's like and if they don't it's more push-up than plank
00:52:57.080 but it's like if you don't go down far enough then daddy gets out the fist and you have to like go
00:53:01.380 down and you have to get to daddy you like come all the way down you know um we do you know time
00:53:08.040 outs obviously like that's a big one um just a variety of things and and depriving you know kids
00:53:13.500 of things i think i think there's there's a lot you can do uh i'm not sold on this science i mean
00:53:19.480 there's plenty of studies that are you know that show that that spanking is is like like really bad
00:53:25.460 and then you know leads to like michael jackson style issues um well that's what i'm saying you're
00:53:29.920 gonna do it you have to be controlled but i don't think i i and to be fair i think some parents
00:53:34.760 probably can't control themselves and do it in
00:53:36.600 kind of a dispassionate way.
00:53:38.720 And I hate to say it, but I think that's what's going on.
00:53:41.620 So spare the rod, spoil the child.
00:53:43.140 But we're assuming that's a physical
00:53:44.760 rod. It doesn't have to be. It could be
00:53:46.660 Tabasco. It could be soap in the mouth.
00:53:48.440 But the point is, you've got to discipline your kids.
00:53:50.600 The Bible says that God disciplines
00:53:52.740 his children because he loves them.
00:53:54.100 It's going to happen.
00:53:55.980 I think if you're using it right, it doesn't have
00:53:57.960 to be done often, but I think
00:53:59.400 a child
00:54:00.660 benefits from the awareness
00:54:04.160 that their parents are capable of hurting them if they need to yeah i think it's important for kids
00:54:09.360 to have a little bit of fear like i i think i got i think i got belted one time when i was a kid
00:54:15.680 yeah and i don't think my parents i mean my parents were young are old gen xers and so i
00:54:21.440 think gen x is kind of like known as like 45 of gen x admitted to spanking their children
00:54:27.760 how much of millennials uh so it's like the research revealed that when this demographic
00:54:33.280 of parents was asked whether they had ever spanked their child
00:54:35.440 or children with their hand. About 20%
00:54:37.580 said yes. So Millennials is 20.
00:54:40.720 Like, boomers
00:54:41.620 were probably, like, 90%.
00:54:43.940 Yeah, and... Excuse me.
00:54:45.660 Did it have boomers in there? 0.77
00:54:47.140 No, it just had Gen X. I bet boomers, like, 0.50
00:54:49.480 legitimately, it's, like, well over 1.00
00:54:51.520 80% spanked their kids. It's just,
00:54:53.340 I think... So it's gone down, like...
00:54:55.920 Do we think kids are better behaved than they were?
00:54:58.320 No, they're worse. Yeah, they're, like, worse.
00:54:59.860 And also, just, it's...
00:55:01.700 I'll just say it this way. 0.76
00:55:02.800 It's an overly, it's like long housed and overly feminized. 0.94
00:55:06.980 And I think that actually undermines the authority of parents a lot. 0.90
00:55:10.140 Let me say this without exposing my family,
00:55:13.060 but I'm the oldest in my family.
00:55:15.300 And I have four brothers and sisters, three brothers, one sister.
00:55:19.860 And I definitely got belted at least one time, maybe two.
00:55:25.960 But it was memorable enough where I never wanted it to happen again.
00:55:31.700 But the kids in my family definitely didn't get, like, as time went on, my parents got weaker.
00:55:36.680 Yeah, they always get softer.
00:55:37.900 Softer.
00:55:38.520 And they didn't.
00:55:40.700 I also think parents get better.
00:55:42.820 Like, I've become a better parent as my kids have gotten older.
00:55:46.220 And I think, actually, in truth, I've used spanking way, I think, like, my daughter probably was the only one.
00:55:53.280 If I'm actually thinking about it, I think my daughter's the only one I've spanked.
00:55:56.300 I got better at being a parent and using other tools
00:55:59.260 and understanding how to avoid even having to get to that point.
00:56:05.420 So I think there's some of that, too.
00:56:06.900 I think there's an element.
00:56:07.420 It's not that you get softer.
00:56:08.620 You might just get better.
00:56:09.760 I was going to say, this is the point I was going to make,
00:56:11.740 was that if the kids are close enough together
00:56:14.180 and they observe the corporal punishment of an older,
00:56:21.800 then you don't need to.
00:56:22.660 yeah so like i think that i mean i was like for sure like definitely instilled in like my younger
00:56:28.200 son was like you don't want to get spanked so the threat actually became real because like
00:56:32.580 they they knew that i was serious about it because it was like the look they could see in my eyes of
00:56:37.900 like oh yeah you don't want that to happen to you and so you don't have to use it but if you if you
00:56:42.720 don't do it at least once right like there's no threat i think i i think i spanked my son one time
00:56:50.800 strength i think i think my dad maybe did it once or twice and it was that yeah level so
00:56:54.780 you don't like doing it yeah and he had other ways i think here's the one here's the way to
00:56:58.580 put it together um because i'm you know i'm still kind of like you know you look i mean you could
00:57:03.880 see all the studies out there that say that spanking in general like is is not is not good
00:57:08.300 for cognitive development but those are done by libs it's true but what you know at this university
00:57:13.320 of texas um yeah no lives at ut austin okay yeah that the the a lot of it is like lack of creativity
00:57:24.240 but but the problem though though i think though is that people saw that stuff and they thought
00:57:29.060 like oh we have to go full in on like the therapy style like i'm gonna be my kid's best friend and
00:57:34.680 i'm gonna do this and this whole like non-confrontational parenting we're like i want
00:57:39.600 my kid to trust me where i'm one of the i'm one of the buds like i'm a cool parent and you know
00:57:44.860 like i'm gonna give you a sip of beer i'm gonna give you smoke a cigarette or whatever like it's 0.99
00:57:50.040 it's it's really stupid and the and the issue that's now created with the unruly kids is that 0.99
00:57:56.920 it's been too permissive and the kids don't actually have any boundaries when they're in 0.99
00:58:01.180 that situation and so like you do need to you do need to drive back so i think if anything
00:58:06.500 with what they're saying about the shocking rise
00:58:09.540 is that I think that perhaps
00:58:11.140 some millennial and Gen Z parents are like,
00:58:13.480 okay, the whole talk therapy version of parenting 1.00
00:58:17.440 is stupid, so I'm going to move in the opposite direction, 0.99
00:58:20.380 but then they go too far in the opposite direction. 1.00
00:58:22.400 And then you create terrible kids.
00:58:23.960 So yeah, I mean, I agree.
00:58:25.120 I think actually, if you're reading the article-
00:58:27.180 And then your kids actually beat you.
00:58:28.580 Yeah, exactly.
00:58:29.420 Let's take it big enough.
00:58:30.660 But I think the article is saying
00:58:35.540 it's shocking still how many parents do this i i think it's actually like to tyler's point is if
00:58:43.780 there isn't an actual threat of it being real then it it kind of loses its effectiveness like
00:58:49.200 it is like peace through strength parenting but yeah if you enforce authority and you firmly
00:58:55.500 establish that they uh need to answer to you and that you're in charge at a very young age
00:59:00.980 i do think that you can tend to keep those boundaries more established but there are there
00:59:05.500 are going to be times where kids try and like defy the parents you know like and i would say
00:59:10.280 to your point on the oldest like my my daughter was she's great now she's like our easiest kid
00:59:15.740 now but when she was kind of like spreading her wings and trying to establish kind of the boundary
00:59:22.040 lines with us she was the hardest that we've had and so you know there needed to be a little bit
00:59:27.480 of like set the pace here that's in theory like but maybe i just wasn't as good of a parent either
00:59:31.880 because with the other ones i have so many more tools in the toolbox to kind of establish you
00:59:36.580 know order in the house can i can i can i introduce a thought crime here so here's my
00:59:42.760 thought crime on this is um and and it's something that i just don't see addressed in any parenting
00:59:49.400 literature at all is that i think i think that iq plays a role in this i think if you have
00:59:57.360 kids who are or you know people who are lower iq then perhaps you know perhaps this might be more
01:00:04.380 effective and we certainly have talked about that in the legal process and and the judicial process
01:00:09.620 and you know uh the lee kwan yu uh sort of version of uh corporal punishment for adults
01:00:16.940 and i think with kids it's the same way like if you've got if you've got smarter kids if you've
01:00:22.180 kids that are more cognitively aware then the threat works better than the actual thing but if
01:00:29.320 they don't seem to have that you know ability to put that all together then perhaps it is those
01:00:35.340 ones that are lower iq where this is more effective because i like i have people texting
01:00:39.820 me right now who are watching the show saying like oh you know i tried that and it didn't work
01:00:44.920 like my kid just just kept you know was was like outsmarted me or not outsmarted but was smarter
01:00:50.780 than the punishment and was like just kept going so you know you you you've got to find something
01:00:56.180 that meets the kid but that's the thought crime is that you know it's not a one-size-fits-all
01:01:01.180 strategy well i i thought that i experienced that with my daughter i i got i basically became
01:01:05.780 convinced that it was the it was not the most effective uh discipline that we could you know
01:01:11.060 meet out uh so here's this uh ut uh i guess uh ut austin study in the u.s 76 percent of men and
01:01:19.620 65% of women agree that it is sometimes necessary
01:01:23.520 to discipline a child with a good, hard spanking. 0.99
01:01:26.640 70% of mothers of two-year-olds
01:01:28.660 report spanking their children.
01:01:30.120 By the time they reach,
01:01:31.140 which is interesting, by the way,
01:01:32.320 so 70% of moms,
01:01:33.800 but only 65% of women agree
01:01:35.400 that it's sometimes necessary.
01:01:36.800 By the time they reach fifth grade,
01:01:38.260 80% of American children report
01:01:39.640 they have been spanked by their parents.
01:01:41.660 I don't know if I believe that.
01:01:42.620 I think a lot of children are like,
01:01:44.160 yeah, me too.
01:01:45.000 Anyways, but according to UNICEF,
01:01:46.240 60% of children around the world
01:01:47.580 experience physical punishment
01:01:48.980 from their parents uh this study basically i think agrees with you jack that it's
01:01:55.140 probably not the most effective you know it's banking does not make children more compliant
01:02:02.120 and let's remember i just don't buy these things that phrase isn't actually in the bible of spare
01:02:08.940 the rod spoil the child that's not what the bible says no it says he spares the rod hates his child
01:02:14.540 he who loves his son um he who loves his son disciplines carefully yeah yeah so it's it's
01:02:21.320 about it also says don't exasperate your children the bible says do not it didn't say you have to
01:02:26.200 spank them yeah but the bible says do not exasperate your children which is another thing
01:02:30.100 which i like as a parent yes that has come into focus a lot because you can feel when you're
01:02:34.960 if you're trying to like drive home a point you can feel when they've kind of
01:02:38.880 had enough and like sometimes you need to pivot to a softer approach but anyways i just think i
01:02:44.040 I think people who go out and I bet people can generate studies that'll tell you that any form of punishment is actually bad.
01:02:52.420 Because a lot of people, they like the anarchy of there being no authority.
01:02:55.820 And something that's pointed out that I think is useful is any law we have, if we want it to exist, it does ultimately need to be backed up by force.
01:03:03.780 It comes up when the police end up choking or shooting someone.
01:03:09.180 They're trying to enforce the law.
01:03:10.860 The guy decides to resist arrest and they end up shooting the guy.
01:03:13.300 And everyone's just like, why do you get shot over a loose cigarette?
01:03:15.960 Why do you get shot over CarTex?
01:03:18.200 Well, in the end, you have to
01:03:19.920 obey the police. And if you don't
01:03:21.900 obey the police, something bad
01:03:23.920 will happen to you. And I think
01:03:25.880 spanking is the micro version
01:03:27.800 of that for a parent. That a parent
01:03:29.580 ultimately they have to have authority over
01:03:31.880 their child. And their ultimate
01:03:34.000 apex of that is, if you do
01:03:35.820 not listen to what I always say, I will
01:03:37.880 use physical force on you. And I think we have to have
01:03:39.860 it be acceptable for a parent to do that.
01:03:41.320 And I think ideally it's actually quite rare.
01:03:44.020 I think all of us who have said it's okay
01:03:45.820 have said we ourselves experienced it maybe once.
01:03:49.740 And so among other things,
01:03:51.120 I don't imagine any of these studies they're doing
01:03:53.500 are very good at capturing the value
01:03:56.360 that comes from a parent who spanks their child
01:03:58.720 literally once ever while they're growing up.
01:04:01.760 I think that's difficult to capture,
01:04:03.100 but I think the value is real.
01:04:04.120 Did you guys ever experience any physical punishment
01:04:06.600 when you became like teenagers?
01:04:08.560 My dad, the longest thing he would do,
01:04:10.240 and this is going to sound extremely funny today,
01:04:12.620 but I did once possess hair
01:04:14.260 atop my head, and if my dad thought I was
01:04:16.460 giving him lip or being sassy,
01:04:18.740 he would grab me by the back,
01:04:20.480 by the short hairs in the back right here.
01:04:22.620 Which ones you still have, to be clear.
01:04:24.460 Well, I don't really have them there anymore.
01:04:26.420 He couldn't grab them anymore, for sure.
01:04:28.520 They used to be grabbable.
01:04:29.980 My mom used to do that when I was a kid, but not as a kid.
01:04:32.940 One time when I was,
01:04:34.620 I must have been like 14 or 15,
01:04:36.420 and I sort of vaguely remember it.
01:04:38.760 I actually look back
01:04:40.580 just to be in my dad's defense
01:04:42.060 I look back and I'm like
01:04:43.440 totally respect it
01:04:44.840 but I got really mouthy
01:04:47.960 like really mouthy
01:04:49.120 said some like really
01:04:49.940 like nasty things
01:04:51.100 and I think he slapped me
01:04:53.120 you know not very hard
01:04:54.240 but he slapped me
01:04:55.120 and he said you will respect me
01:04:56.640 you will respect me
01:04:58.080 and I like
01:05:00.440 I remember in the moment
01:05:01.440 I was so shocked
01:05:02.340 I can't believe you
01:05:04.080 yeah seriously
01:05:06.240 that was basically
01:05:07.280 the general energy
01:05:08.160 and then it like it like dawned on me when i was like 25 i was like i like had this like
01:05:13.420 grudging respect for my old man i was like yeah he put me in my place like good for him actually
01:05:18.280 because i was i i really deserved it and uh and now as i get older as now as i get older i like
01:05:24.240 i i don't grudgingly respect it i'm like that was that was rad like good for you now i'm just
01:05:28.640 thinking on the other i remember freak outs that they can have from punishments so we reflect on
01:05:33.320 spanking but i wonder if the experts would now say like taking your child's phone away for a
01:05:38.380 prolonged period and i am thinking i'm sorry i'm gonna drag my uh one of my sisters here for a bit
01:05:43.520 i remember one time my parents grounded my sister by taking her phone away for i believe
01:05:48.220 one or two days and i remember her literally screaming you have ruined my life maybe we did
01:05:55.820 i don't know how her life might have gone as a teenager i got my dad to use the f word one time
01:06:01.640 sorry dad i haven't exposed you that was like the only time my dad never cussed my dad's like really
01:06:06.620 slow to anger he's like really chill and he never got gets angry he always you pushed enough buttons
01:06:11.640 i pushed enough buttons where he like dropped a f-bomb on me and i i started laughing because i
01:06:16.700 was like i was like shocked and nervous all at the same time but i was just like like laughing
01:06:22.800 but it left like an impression with me i was like i actually felt bad that i made my dad so mad that
01:06:27.960 it probably similar situation where it's like like i made i felt bad that i made my dad so
01:06:33.560 mad that he did that and i know he was like disappointed in himself afterwards that i like
01:06:38.660 jack anything for you when you got older and got all philly philly the one thing that i just have
01:06:43.380 to reflect on is um this is going back like you know i guess seven seven six or seven years now
01:06:51.880 is that you know just over the six or seven years that i've dealt with andrew colvette i mean i'm
01:06:57.780 right there with his dad i totally get it totally i do that one time when you slapped andrew in the
01:07:03.500 office yeah that was weird jack i i thought we were talking about that on air i turned the other
01:07:08.160 cheek um yeah i mean listen i i maybe i was just a bad teenager i don't know i was actually a pretty
01:07:13.960 good kid in general but i i definitely had that coming like i would i would i went through this
01:07:18.980 phase where i would say like out of line things you know like trying to get a shock out i think
01:07:23.960 out of my parents um anyways faz says when i was five all the kids would talk about spankings and
01:07:29.400 i was curious and the jealous and jealous that i never got spanked since my parents were against
01:07:34.120 it so i kept doing things that were naughty to try and get spanked and then it finally happened
01:07:38.080 and uh i didn't love it never happened again let's see there you go faz a good kid
01:07:43.420 but still a good man so i don't know i'm kind of with you blake my instincts say that this is woke
01:07:48.880 garbage and it's probably okay sometimes you have to do it dispassionately you can't be like doing 0.95
01:07:54.460 it in anger and freaking the kids out you can't be like beaten with a belt for 40 minutes like 0.93
01:07:58.460 you have to have it has to have boundaries and limitations but if you don't have that as an
01:08:02.940 option on the table it's kind of like you know well and there's a lot of other things i was
01:08:09.180 going to bring up that are non-physical but it's the same thing if it's just a threat and you never
01:08:13.620 do it then it then there are no teeth you gotta hold your word you're not your you're not your
01:08:19.360 kids friends you're not friends i mean there's two things you're the authority one thing my dad
01:08:23.080 did i know we gotta go but you can't do that my dad did one thing not to me but to my brother he
01:08:27.540 had his car and he threatened like hey if you do i can't remember what he did something like
01:08:33.680 goofed off or broke curfew or did something he's like i'm gonna take away your car and my my dad
01:08:39.260 did take away my brother's car without him knowing he had an extra key to it and then parked it in
01:08:45.760 a storage locker like it fit perfectly in the storage locker closed the door and gave the
01:08:53.060 storage locker key to my brother but didn't tell him which storage locker is and where it was at
01:08:57.520 right so he had to live with like hey if you lose this now you're responsible for the storage locker
01:09:03.280 key and if you lose the storage locker key right you're never getting your car back because i i'm
01:09:08.220 not going to tell you where it is like it's gone and so you have to be responsible enough to like
01:09:12.400 keep the storage locker key for as long and then when i decide to let it out really funny to put
01:09:17.140 it in like one of the extremely large storage locker complexes we have in phoenix and just say
01:09:22.240 like it's one of them just make them do every lock all right animal farm jack take us home on
01:09:28.500 yeah yeah i do have to report back that i did um finally uh get a chance to sit down and watch the
01:09:36.320 new animal farm um I think I was actually like uh live commenting on it in you know in our group
01:09:43.260 chat while I was watching it and uh yeah I just totally agree with Blake I mean within like the
01:09:49.140 like the first 25 minutes or so are kind of it's pretty much like beat for beat the same story as
01:09:54.580 like the book and then it just takes a wild turn becomes extremely anti-capitalist it just it just
01:09:59.920 is yeah i was interested like you the villain is clearly like it's not so bad by the way
01:10:04.520 and it's and it's also just not a good story you i was i was surprised because i was watching your
01:10:09.380 your live commentary you're like it's not that bad it's pretty whatever right now and then
01:10:12.900 and then yeah like the first third was like kind of the same and then it just goes off the rails
01:10:18.260 completely all right well it's been a fun episode of very culture culture uh like media
01:10:25.580 high culture star wars
01:10:27.180 trashy books animal farm
01:10:29.800 bad novel adaptations we should get
01:10:31.700 back into the thought crimey stuff next week
01:10:33.600 i think we gotta we gotta like
01:10:35.340 be tempted to say things we we don't
01:10:37.820 want clip we gotta bail so
01:10:39.640 thank you everyone take us home jack 1.00
01:10:41.820 ladies and
01:10:43.700 gentlemen as always go out there 0.99
01:10:45.840 and commit more thought crime
01:10:48.000 thought crime is death
01:10:55.580 You