Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - July 04, 2026


THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 134 — Batman Goes Shopping? He-Man and the Masters of the Culture War?


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00:00:00.000 from the age of big brother if they want to get you they'll get you dnsa specifically
00:00:05.920 targets the communications of everyone they're collecting your communications
00:00:10.600 all right guys we're here another thought crime thursday is upon us what's up gang
00:00:29.140 What's up?
00:00:29.640 What's up?
00:00:30.520 What's up, Jack?
00:00:31.920 Crimes are flitting through my mind all the time.
00:00:35.480 All right, we got Russ.
00:00:37.080 We got Andrew.
00:00:38.160 We got Blake.
00:00:39.140 We got Poso here.
00:00:40.420 I've got my Philadelphia background also with my Wawa 250 shirt.
00:00:45.920 Look at this.
00:00:46.500 We got Philly Skyline.
00:00:47.560 We got Wawa 250.
00:00:49.180 Just pick this up.
00:00:50.640 It's going to be a high commodity.
00:00:51.740 I'm going to pass this on to my children at one point.
00:00:55.040 when they steal it from me
00:00:57.260 probably a week from now.
00:00:59.920 You know what's interesting, Jack,
00:01:01.000 is that we've got the Buc-ee's
00:01:03.140 fan,
00:01:05.180 all this Europeans coming over,
00:01:07.020 discovering Buc-ee's. We've got Bass Pro Shops.
00:01:09.200 I have seen zero
00:01:10.640 foreign love for Wawa.
00:01:12.900 What's that about? Are they playing any games in Philadelphia?
00:01:16.080 They did, actually.
00:01:17.160 They just had a game in Philadelphia
00:01:18.800 last week.
00:01:20.620 Shoot, what was it? I think it was like Brazil or something.
00:01:23.400 And I think it's because
00:01:25.020 Because there weren't any European teams that were playing in Philadelphia, though.
00:01:29.640 So Freddie came across Pennsylvania, but he was like going across the northern tier to
00:01:35.680 get to New York.
00:01:36.900 So he wasn't anywhere in like what I refer to as the Wawa Republic, if you will, which
00:01:42.640 begins in actually in North Jersey and then goes all the way down to about Richmond.
00:01:46.780 Although Philadelphia is, of course, the capital.
00:01:49.020 Yeah, I think in general, even if the Europeans haven't discovered Wawa, I am
00:01:54.980 The fact that you've got your 250 Wawa shirt,
00:01:58.020 it does get me thinking about the share of American patriotic pride
00:02:01.860 that is being generated by high-quality gas stations at this point
00:02:05.520 because Buc-ee's is a thing that we're genuinely celebrating
00:02:09.820 and bragging about as Europeans encounter it.
00:02:13.360 And I know a lot of people were getting a kick.
00:02:15.680 The Japanese got here and they went to 7-Eleven in America
00:02:18.980 and they were thinking,
00:02:20.280 oh, it's so amazing to have this authentic product of Japan here in America.
00:02:24.980 the 7-eleven and and then we've got that call we've got the cult following of like kirkland
00:02:30.300 the costco brand oh is that are they discovering kirkland now which is just like kirkland is the
00:02:35.440 whole thing now yeah which is also really funny is that one of those things where we just think
00:02:39.880 of costco as normal decent products and then there's probably europeans or chinese people
00:02:45.360 who get kirkland exported to their country and they charge it at a three times markup
00:02:49.460 They used to do that with Pabst Blue Ribbon.
00:02:52.120 I literally just pulled this up to fact check,
00:02:54.800 and I did find a TikTok that loves the wah-wah.
00:03:00.860 I just found it.
00:03:02.720 Oh, there you go.
00:03:04.640 You got one, Jack.
00:03:05.920 You got one.
00:03:06.640 Although, that's got decent engagement, admittedly.
00:03:09.460 No, it does.
00:03:10.540 This, of course, because we're not really big on...
00:03:14.600 Dude, this one on TikTok, it's 500,000 views.
00:03:19.460 yeah yeah no it's not bad i love the tick tock uh but wait hold on this whole the whole point
00:03:25.940 of this is that you get philly cheesesteak at a wawa do you agree i mean i don't know do you
00:03:30.600 agree with that uh yeah so that's that's kind of like look you know i appreciate it but but but
00:03:36.260 so this is a french guy who went i guess to to philadelphia who said they were recommended
00:03:43.520 he got a little mixed up he got a little mixed up right he's french you know we're not gonna hold
00:03:48.980 to him but he said that he wanted the cheesesteak and then someone had mentioned Wawa so he got
00:03:55.300 mixed up and thought that he meant that he should get a cheesesteak at Wawa which I mean guys like
00:04:01.120 let's let's be serious you could do a whole lot better that's no one at that point at that point
00:04:07.480 don't even interrupt that kind of is let him believe he got the famous sandwich he can tell
00:04:12.880 as kids i was at the world he seemed very happy you know i got the wawa cheesesteak and also
00:04:18.160 living the dream he seemed this is going to be a controversial take of mine cheesesteaks are a
00:04:23.240 basic enough sandwich i don't think it matters too much where you get one dude i got um actually
00:04:29.100 no no i i actually agree that um i think like for a lot of like the overweight foodies out there
00:04:35.840 they do this whole like oh you've got to go to what a north philly that's in like a hole in the
00:04:41.480 wall that's served out of a bucket but that's the perfect one and they're like no no that's
00:04:46.460 the red bucket you have to go to south philly for the one out of the blue bucket and you're like
00:04:50.260 if you're if you're getting an authentic philly cheesesteak anywhere in the city or like like
00:04:56.940 south jersey or there's a lot of philly crossover you're going to be fine you're going to be
00:05:00.800 absolutely fine they're all good what you don't want to get is something where people call it a
00:05:07.400 philly cheesesteak and it's not it's just very obviously not a philly cheesesteak where they
00:05:12.280 like layer like i've seen people come uh you know say that they're gonna give me a philly cheesesteak
00:05:18.380 and i get something that has like roast beef on it and i'm like what is this like this is not a
00:05:22.960 cheesesteak in any way shape or form so it's like as long as you actually understand what you're
00:05:27.460 supposed to be making you're fine you know speaking i think this is a total out of left
00:05:31.460 field but it's a thought crime that just came to me because you said that i have a real thought
00:05:35.300 crime for you that is very culinary when it comes to roast beef i prefer fast food roast beef like
00:05:43.680 arby's style roast beef over what you'd likely get at a nice restaurant with like the thicker
00:05:48.800 pieces of beef like i actually really like the weird thin slices of beef that are standard and
00:05:55.180 fast food sandwiches so much so that when i was most recently in south dakota for a blast from
00:06:01.560 the past i went to the hardy's that i went to as a kid and i got one of them and it was delicious
00:06:06.960 there you go it's way better than restaurant roast beef jack i have a i have a i have a
00:06:12.540 i have a bigger question for the group here it's off the topic list but say
00:06:17.100 mexico won the world cup do you think that they would riot and burn down our cities in celebration
00:06:23.860 you mean the mexicans that live here illegally
00:06:27.880 and legally
00:06:31.180 the Moroccans
00:06:33.000 in the Netherlands
00:06:33.620 I think
00:06:34.300 some of them
00:06:34.880 are like
00:06:35.140 third generation
00:06:35.860 and they're still
00:06:37.040 rioting
00:06:37.460 they're still
00:06:38.180 burning down
00:06:38.720 that country
00:06:39.500 all of California
00:06:41.200 would be engulfed
00:06:43.460 I think
00:06:44.860 Mexico
00:06:45.180 shall not win
00:06:46.600 the World Cup
00:06:47.140 I don't think
00:06:48.160 have they done that
00:06:49.620 do Mexicans
00:06:50.160 really like riot
00:06:51.020 or Hispanic areas
00:06:52.360 riot over sports stuff
00:06:54.020 this isn't New York
00:06:55.380 they're not animals
00:06:56.140 I mean
00:06:56.780 well i don't know i think they'll be fine i don't it will be interesting i i think mexico
00:07:04.980 is underrated here because this game that they're playing today and if they win it their next one
00:07:10.260 they're both played in mexico city and mexico city is higher up than denver it's like
00:07:14.260 7500 feet in the air that is you have like one third less oxygen in every breath than you would
00:07:20.980 normally i just think a lot of these players they're going to go to mexico city and they're
00:07:24.380 gonna be super tired and then mexico will slip one goal past them and get the way it's gonna it's
00:07:30.360 ecuador that's playing against me true so it's about this uh almost all are a lot of the ecuador
00:07:37.300 players over half of them are from one small part of ecuador that only has three percent of the
00:07:42.380 people so it'd be like if all of america's players came from like alabama or something and because
00:07:48.740 it's the only part of ecuador that has like a high black population so they're all really athletic
00:07:52.960 there but they're not from the highlands so and they play in europe so other than when they play
00:07:58.240 national team games in quito they're not actually playing at a high altitude the way mexico is
00:08:04.080 i'm trying to think of something wasn't there another like some kind of sport where it's like
00:08:09.420 all the olympians that have won or from like a certain you know one square of europe or something
00:08:17.120 like that do you know what i'm talking about at all i'm not sure about that i do know that
00:08:21.400 We're 10 and runners who are really good Kenya has great long-distance runners, but it's even more specific than that
00:08:26.160 It's from like one tribe in one small part of Kenya
00:08:30.700 Oh gosh, oh gosh your runners. Well, I'm being assaulted. I'm going to buy whoa, but I buy a Phillies fan here
00:08:40.980 Going on
00:08:42.980 We got an Eagles fan over here too. Oh, we got an Eagles fan over here to another all right
00:08:48.200 Well, well guys guys if if I can if I can, you know
00:08:52.600 I know this is on our subject list and these guys were not planning to be here today, but they got in
00:08:58.200 I have a question. What did you guys we guys we watched the
00:09:03.700 Toy Story and
00:09:05.820 He-man this weekend right right right right which movie did you guys like better?
00:09:11.080 He-man
00:09:12.520 Why?
00:09:13.840 Because it's better
00:09:15.560 because it's man style because it's man style yes and what does he man say i have the power
00:09:25.080 oh i have the power and aj are you grabbing stuff that's like swords and saying i have the power
00:09:32.560 yes yes you like that like like sticks or anything yes all right get out of here okay thank you good
00:09:39.900 work guys he's got the power oh i get out too oh all right i will soon wait the question though
00:09:46.080 is jack does europe have enough power to run its ac oh all right why i don't know if you want that
00:09:55.600 was that was quite the pivot that was the most aggressive pitch i've ever heard andrew pull off
00:10:00.520 i was going to jump ahead i'm not even mad at myself i'm just impressed but but if you want
00:10:06.360 to go back to the AC thing. We can do that as well.
00:10:08.840 Because I want to know, guys,
00:10:10.420 we're going to hit with a heat wave.
00:10:14.740 I don't know. Russ,
00:10:16.280 I feel like we should hit the He-Man thing
00:10:18.440 because they just said it. Yeah, let's hit the He-Man.
00:10:20.380 Yeah, all right. We'll have to do He-Man first.
00:10:22.180 We'll get to the AC question.
00:10:24.080 He just said it.
00:10:25.560 I respect the pivot. That was an all-timer pivot.
00:10:28.720 It was a good try.
00:10:30.020 That was worthy of the power of grace.
00:10:32.200 We'll get there.
00:10:33.840 Did I say that right? I never watched He-Man as a kid.
00:10:36.360 full confession. I think this is one of those things where tiny differences in age make a huge
00:10:42.740 difference. So Jack, I know that you're a couple of years older than me. And I guess this must
00:10:48.040 mean you're a vastly bigger He-Man fan than I am. I never saw He-Man on anything. I would honestly
00:10:54.940 say like you're right on the age question. That being said though, I was, you know, I was familiar
00:11:01.200 with the he-man toys as a kid i did not really watch the he-man show as a kid i actually think
00:11:08.480 you have to be older than jack and i to to have appreciated he-man it's like my brother the core
00:11:14.080 my brother he-man was gen x and i am not gen x yeah my brother is like five years older than me
00:11:20.480 and he watched he-man so that's kind of like if you're i don't even think i saw that but i i had
00:11:25.520 the toys i had the toys i never saw the toys either i think they were like leftover toys i
00:11:30.320 I think the only way I heard of He-Man was I went through that phase as a kid
00:11:35.380 where I read Dave Barry books, like Dave Barry humor books,
00:11:39.160 and he has columns he wrote about his son playing with He-Man toys
00:11:45.380 and explaining this is He-Man, this is Men at Arms,
00:11:48.940 this is these other guys.
00:11:50.180 And I remember reading that and not being sure if this was real
00:11:53.100 or just something Dave Barry was making up.
00:11:55.260 actually funny enough is um tom wolf also brings up he-man a lot in bonfire the vanities
00:12:01.620 like he's referring to himself as yeah yeah it's because well the phrase master of the universe
00:12:07.540 and it's like the main character referred the the guy who's like uh he's like a bond trader
00:12:11.980 he's like i'm a master of the universe like he-man like my kids toys i'm a master of the universe
00:12:15.880 that's what that's literally what it actually comes from that's funny that's what masters
00:12:21.100 the universe comes from yes it's a he-man reference and he says something about like
00:12:24.440 kids we should we should play some of the clips because i feel like if you're in the audience
00:12:28.560 and you have no idea what he-man is yeah let's uh clip six is probably a good place to start
00:12:34.040 this is a new movie all right oh no there's the old there's the old one okay
00:12:38.420 and the masters of the universe
00:12:43.620 prince of eternity a defender of the secrets of castle grayskull this is cringer my fearless friend
00:12:54.440 Fabulous secret powers were revealed to me
00:12:57.200 The day I held aloft my magic sword and said
00:13:00.140 By the power of Greyskull
00:13:02.700 I have the power
00:13:08.520 Tringer became the mighty Battle Cat
00:13:19.760 And I became He-Man
00:13:21.860 The most powerful man in the universe.
00:13:27.600 Only three others share this secret.
00:13:31.260 Our friends, the Sorceress,
00:13:33.280 Planet Arms, and Orko.
00:13:35.440 Together, we defend Castle Greyskull
00:13:37.680 from the evil forces of Skeletor.
00:13:43.780 Yeah, I'm looking,
00:13:47.180 I literally dug out the PDF of Bonfire of the Vanities
00:13:50.960 while we watched that clip and it says the masters of the universe were a set of lurid
00:13:56.200 rapacious plastic dolls that sherman mccoy's otherwise perfect daughter liked to play with
00:14:02.820 they looked like norse gods who lifted weights and they had names such as dracon ahor mangle
00:14:09.320 red and blue tong they were unusually vulgar even for plastic toys and yet one day in a bit of
00:14:15.940 euphoria he had picked up the telephone and taken an order for zero coupon bonds that had brought
00:14:21.020 him a fifty thousand dollar commission and just like that the phrase bubbled into his head i am
00:14:26.420 a master of the universe yeah and so like mccoy is saying that like throughout the novel yeah yeah
00:14:33.140 it does but i i just love that description of the toys are those actually even he-man characters
00:14:36.920 dracon blue tong are those i i think no i think that might be like you know and then this is like
00:14:44.180 classic tom wolf that might be like what mccoy's daughter called them but that's not what they're
00:14:49.360 actually called apparently blue tongue is a viral disease that ruminant species can get
00:14:54.300 so that was the original he-man all right that was the original he-man everybody you know you
00:15:00.920 probably more familiar with that and then there's the new movie which just came out like a week or
00:15:06.440 two ago i'm gonna try to get this back on track here and uh do we want to play that trailer as
00:15:12.540 well? Yeah, let's do it.
00:15:14.460 Alright, let's do it.
00:15:16.500 So that was the 1980s show.
00:15:20.380 And this is the new film
00:15:22.260 which just dropped
00:15:22.980 a month ago.
00:15:25.620 I know most of you
00:15:29.080 don't remember me.
00:15:32.020 But I know all of you.
00:15:42.540 Even though I was stuck light-years away on Earth,
00:15:51.280 I never stopped trying to get back home.
00:15:58.260 Everything changed since you left.
00:16:01.080 It's all gone.
00:16:05.200 Skeletor took my family.
00:16:06.720 and he destroyed our world
00:16:14.320 it's all my thoughts like you
00:16:20.720 i know how it sounds to feel
00:16:23.040 take the smart
00:16:25.700 and when you fall
00:16:28.500 that's your chance to stand tall
00:16:36.720 I have to go!
00:16:56.840 The universe shall quake in my shadow.
00:17:03.520 This is my home.
00:17:05.160 I'm going to fight for you.
00:17:08.900 But I can't do it without you.
00:17:10.700 Somebody wants to grow.
00:17:12.060 I need every man, woman, or whatever that is.
00:17:28.300 The movie.
00:17:29.380 You may have the power.
00:17:31.060 You may have the power.
00:17:31.660 but you're too scared to use it trust me i know how to use it
00:17:38.620 you tell everyone that you're from another planet
00:17:49.680 it just makes you sound a little very crazy
00:17:57.320 okay jack i'm gonna i'm gonna say a few things being brutally honest here first of all i saw
00:18:05.800 that trailer in theaters a few months ago and it is the first time i ever saw a movie and
00:18:10.340 immediately googled on my phone yes i pulled out my phone and googled during the previews
00:18:13.880 did they make this movie using ai because it looks very ai the trailers did not do this movie
00:18:21.220 any help like also it's a little weird because it's it seems like they're saying this is the
00:18:26.360 rise of he-man so it's his origin story
00:18:28.420 but it seems like yeah it's like an origin it's like a
00:18:30.320 prequel like like an it's an origin story
00:18:32.320 like a reboot but at the start he's already
00:18:34.340 like been he's like ex-he-man
00:18:36.180 he has amnesia and he's working as an accountant
00:18:38.200 in new york or something uh he gets
00:18:40.260 teleported from
00:18:41.840 uh grayskull to
00:18:44.000 earth and then he
00:18:46.200 grows up on earth what's the thought
00:18:47.940 trying to figure out where the
00:18:49.040 so so here's here's the thought crime this this is what i wanted
00:18:52.140 to bring up was the thought crime and i've written
00:18:53.580 and i'm not even going to like get into
00:18:56.020 reviewing like whether it's a good movie or like it it the movie's got issues like i'm not even
00:19:01.700 going to say that it's like the perfect movie or something um music is actually really cool if you
00:19:06.020 hear that guitar the reason that it actually sounds like queen is because it's literally
00:19:09.700 brian may they got him back to do the the soundtrack and he has new um original songs
00:19:14.580 for the film but the thought crime here is that my kids loved this thing you saw them just running
00:19:24.420 in and talking about it they've been obsessed with it ever since they watch it especially the
00:19:27.860 little one and what struck me was this is a film and more specifically the character of he-man
00:19:35.860 where it's a depiction of masculinity in such a way that you just don't find anywhere else in
00:19:46.420 the mainstream of entertainment in children's entertainment you don't find anything anywhere
00:19:52.900 where you've just got a big muscle bound guy who in a very positive way is just wailing on on bad
00:20:00.820 guys and there's something about that where you just put a sword in a young boy's hand and have
00:20:06.740 him hold it up and say i have the power that actually speaks to something that's very very
00:20:13.220 positive for young kids and so i at first i like wasn't super into it but then when i saw the
00:20:19.220 the reaction that they had to it, it made me appreciate it more because I was kind of
00:20:25.700 thinking about it in contrast of all the other things that are out there in media today that
00:20:31.020 this is something for young boys that they could look to and say, you know what? I want
00:20:36.420 to be a hero just like He-Man. I can be just like He-Man. And look, if you're someone who's
00:20:44.240 got a young girl right now, there's everything. It's everything is all female coded or feminine
00:20:49.020 encoded whereas he-man is like the one thing where it's just like yeah i'm a dude who's got
00:20:55.340 the power of the cosmos the power of the sword and you know what i'm going to use it and by the way
00:21:01.480 the fact that it's a white guy uh doing that they didn't like you know they did race swap uh man at
00:21:06.780 arms but they did not but it's interesting i mean and they did not um gender swap or race swap or do
00:21:13.520 any of that nonsense it's uh it's it's something where i said you know what this is actually good
00:21:18.660 for young boys to see
00:21:21.080 and that we should take them to see it
00:21:22.780 and Blake, if you wanted to tie this in
00:21:25.300 there's something in the
00:21:27.180 psychology of specifically the
00:21:29.140 toys of the series
00:21:30.980 which I'm sure they're going to try to sell a lot of toys to kids
00:21:33.060 like mine, that
00:21:34.420 actually is at play here
00:21:36.140 Yeah, so that's what we were thinking of linking it
00:21:39.100 to here because He-Man infamously
00:21:41.300 was originally created to
00:21:43.080 basically sell toys, in fact I think
00:21:45.060 the toys existed and then they made the show
00:21:47.040 and then now the show it all loops around but it turned into a thing that i guess is pretty old but
00:21:52.140 i only learned of it yesterday and it's the we were debating what to call this the the batman
00:21:57.200 to barbie pipeline the batman shopping idea but it's literally how kids engage with toys which
00:22:04.040 is pretty funny because i was reading that batman versus barbie yeah it's like reading the excerpt
00:22:08.060 psychologies yeah well it's reading the excerpt here from the uh that book where it's his daughter
00:22:14.340 are playing with the toys and we should wonder how is she playing with the toys so it's it's
00:22:19.180 this take that someone had let me bring it up here uh just a second text classic 4chan green
00:22:25.400 text by the way yes so what happens is this is all someone else brought it up but it's the batman
00:22:30.520 shopping idea so never saw this before by the way yeah so here's what someone alleged on on 4chan
00:22:36.560 ages ago lego did a study when they created the lego friends line for girls where they discovered
00:22:42.100 that when a boy plays with the toy of a character,
00:22:44.740 it's totally different from how it is with a girl.
00:22:46.600 The boy tries to become the character.
00:22:50.140 The girl wants the character to become her.
00:22:53.080 So the example he gives, you give a boy a Batman toy.
00:22:56.720 He wants to know what is Batman's origin?
00:22:59.620 What is Batman's idea?
00:23:01.120 How does Batman act and behave?
00:23:02.480 And he'll play with Batman with Batman doing Batman things.
00:23:05.020 So he'll be motivated.
00:23:06.940 I have to get revenge for my parents,
00:23:08.760 but I can't kill anybody
00:23:09.700 because Batman's not allowed to do that.
00:23:10.980 he's gonna talk like this all the time all of that the girl on the other hand is going to take
00:23:15.980 batman and she's going to make batman do girl stuff batman will go shopping he will bake cookies
00:23:20.480 he will go to the prom he'll go to bat prom and there's there's exceptions he says but the data
00:23:26.280 says this is what's going on there and then this leads into this is arguably the reason that star
00:23:33.080 wars and so many other things have gone downhill after kathleen kennedy and similar people have
00:23:38.160 taken over because when they're
00:23:40.200 handed a property, they think
00:23:42.420 how can I make this property
00:23:43.940 more like me?
00:23:46.280 As opposed to how do I steward
00:23:48.320 this property in a way that makes
00:23:50.100 sense with it? So does Star Wars do stuff
00:23:52.340 that makes sense in Star Wars terms or
00:23:54.300 are they just turning Star Wars
00:23:56.200 into Rey has to go to the prom?
00:23:59.160 That's what they're doing.
00:24:00.380 That's what they're doing. It's actually kind of funny
00:24:02.300 you say. I can vouch for this by the way.
00:24:04.320 My children, my
00:24:06.060 my son specifically with star wars ever since i took him to go see mandalorian which jack is
00:24:12.180 still upset at me about but like he's obsessed with mando he's got the mandalorian toys we
00:24:16.700 should hold ourselves to the same standard i didn't actually you know call anybody to to do
00:24:23.020 anything so there's that somebody isn't watching the episodes he's not i digress no no no i saw
00:24:29.900 the chat i knew exactly but i just you know listen my son wanted to go i had a great time with him
00:24:33.760 anyways he's he is doing all the mando things he's not making mando do do whatever you know
00:24:40.700 he thinks he should do it just seems like he he's and and the other part that really uh resonates
00:24:45.920 here is where you learn everything about him he knows like mando facts uh like about the character
00:24:51.800 about his weapons that are pretty obscure and he's kind of done that all on his own like i haven't
00:24:56.820 been leading him down any path or anything so i can say lived experience totally matches this
00:25:03.020 description so actually so that's exactly what my boys are doing just real quick with with he-man
00:25:07.640 they're doing the exact same thing it's like uh you know okay who is mom and dad okay got it and
00:25:13.180 what's the deal with the cat the cat chain the tiger changes to battle cat when he has the power
00:25:17.960 god okay cool and they they want to learn all those things about him but then it's also that
00:25:22.880 i think the deeper thing though that we're talking about here is like so it's it's like a role
00:25:29.100 playing in the sense that hey i can be he-man i can be uh whatever you know star wars character
00:25:35.740 you just made up um i can be um batman in this situation and it's sort of like giving that
00:25:43.340 actual empowerment whereas with lego when they did because uh blake in the the thing you read
00:25:47.820 they talked about the lego friends line and the lego friends line this is very similar to barbie
00:25:53.420 where it's like they make personalized characters that you can go in and then customize which is
00:25:59.900 totally separate from like every other lego set that's ever been made before and this was how
00:26:04.460 this was the psychology that allowed lego to finally open up the uh the female market the
00:26:09.740 the to market to young girls that you know that they found that girls wanted that kind of toy
00:26:15.340 more whereas boys wanted to do role playing and so rather than we i mean you know we've all seen
00:26:21.580 this trope with like the girls will have like the you know every toy story they talk about it we're
00:26:25.660 like the the girl will have the toys go the action toys go to like a tea party right you know that's
00:26:31.420 because that's what girls do um whereas boys want to fight and and play with with the toys and view
00:26:38.940 themselves as the toys there's actually that cool series uh the toys that make us do you guys ever
00:26:43.580 see that on netflix uh no or i think it was youtube maybe um that uh talks about how the
00:26:50.140 toys were made and one piece i wrote this up for human events that when the toys were first made
00:26:56.140 to blake's point that they let them play with they just let kids play with the toys and some of the
00:27:01.580 boys were going back and forth saying i have the power no i have the power back and that's where
00:27:07.100 they got the line from was just actual kids playing in in uh like a focus group and one of the things
00:27:14.380 that they they dug through and realized was that when you're a young boy like that you're constantly
00:27:19.500 surrounded in areas where women have like total authority right um you're at home and mom's the
00:27:26.140 boss you know for most of the day you go to school then and you know the teaching staff
00:27:30.940 is mostly female and so they feel powerless but now now when i have this i get to be he-man and
00:27:38.700 he-man has all of the power so it's actually it was a repudiation of the longhouse back then
00:27:45.820 whereas like today this system has only gotten worse the situation has only gotten worse
00:27:50.620 because the longhouse of the the female run consensus driven world is like literally everywhere
00:27:56.540 you go and you know and we might disagree on this but i actually took the first part of the movie
00:28:03.020 as actually sort of showing that because in the film uh when it starts out that's kind of the
00:28:08.540 joke is that he-man uh actually works in an hr department and and he has this like he has this
00:28:15.500 like feminist uh girl boss um director and uh he gets fired it doesn't go very well
00:28:21.860 so speaking of uh how girls play with toys uh i think there's kind of funny old proof of this
00:28:29.660 which is clearly based on probably what an early pixar animators own kids were doing but the
00:28:35.880 original toy story back before there was four and five and all these other and the gay buzz
00:28:40.160 light your movie we had the original toy story which is amazing and you may remember there's a
00:28:44.800 scene where buzz ends up in the hands of sid's little sister and woody goes to rescue him and
00:28:50.500 let's show how they portrayed her playing with them let's do clip 16. hey buzz are you okay
00:28:58.120 i called it it's all gone oh it's gone but who's there what happened to you one minute you're
00:29:06.620 defending the whole galaxy and suddenly you find yourself sucking down darjeeling with
00:29:12.980 Maria Antoinette and her little sister.
00:29:17.340 I think you've had enough tea for today.
00:29:20.180 Let's get you out of here, Buzz.
00:29:21.800 Don't you get it?
00:29:23.480 You see the hat?
00:29:24.860 I am Mrs. Nesbitt.
00:29:28.500 Snap out of it, Buzz.
00:29:33.920 I'm sorry.
00:29:35.340 You're right.
00:29:36.140 I am just a little depressed.
00:29:37.500 That's all.
00:29:38.760 I can get through this.
00:29:41.200 Oh, I'm a champ.
00:29:42.980 Look at me, they can't even fly out of a window.
00:29:47.400 But the hat looked good.
00:29:49.060 Tell me the hat looked good.
00:29:50.740 The apron is a bit much.
00:29:52.020 Out the window, boss.
00:29:54.180 You're a genius.
00:29:56.020 Come on, this way.
00:29:57.480 Years of Academy training waste.
00:30:01.180 Oh, I love the original Toy Story.
00:30:02.740 I love Toy Story.
00:30:03.600 And this is Nesbeth telling me the hat looks good.
00:30:06.460 Yeah, that's exactly the point, right?
00:30:08.320 That's the point that, like, the little girl made Buzz Lightyear,
00:30:11.820 who's a you know an action spaceman uh secret agent kind of character into she put him in the
00:30:19.300 longhouse she put him in the longhouse there's a natural the counterpoint here though that i'm
00:30:24.440 saying so okay girls will do this with boy toys do you see the opposite like will will boys if put
00:30:32.120 into this situation like where they only have barbies to interact with will they
00:30:36.300 will they play house or will they make her the girlfriend of batman i don't do your boys ever
00:30:41.900 play with girl-coded toys in any capacity jack no no i feel that might be the issue times where
00:30:50.820 like we're like they've gone over like tanya'll have girlfriends or something who have daughters
00:30:55.340 and if we're like arrange a play date like they will just march right past the girl toys and pick
00:31:01.640 up like a ball or something else like they just it's like they don't even exist yeah which is
00:31:06.900 good but it does strike me if we're gonna engage with the thought crime here there might be an
00:31:11.920 issue there if if they're saying boys will get into the headspace of the toy well yeah if the
00:31:16.660 toy is awesome but if the toy is so domestic so my parents actually took it a step further and
00:31:23.280 use essentially this thought process as why growing up we weren't allowed to watch star wars
00:31:30.480 we weren't allowed to watch uh batman or superman which is hilarious because i'm a giant nerd now
00:31:35.840 um there was we essentially we'd watch animal planet discovery channel the history channel
00:31:41.940 but then there was this animated show called rescue heroes which is essentially they just
00:31:47.660 made um police officers firemen uh lifeguards doctors like all these heroes and so the whole
00:31:58.080 show is literally just them like oh we have a wildfire we have to go save the people and
00:32:04.460 literally you had like essentially a he-man style toys but it was billy blazes the fireman and he
00:32:11.220 had like a mustache and everything and would they like all team up with each other so the paramedic
00:32:15.260 just shows up to help it was literally like avengers or justice league but like for like
00:32:20.240 first responders did they have one guy who had like a really niche skill like they'd have they'd
00:32:25.700 have the coast guard guy who's good at water just tagging along in the desert rescue or something
00:32:30.040 the coast guard guide actually had a uh pet dolphin that helped him on rescue that's a that's
00:32:35.940 actually pretty awesome yeah and then literally you had these toys where you would have like a ship
00:32:40.160 or there was like a big aircraft carrier it was literally the avengers and justice league but
00:32:44.600 for first i feel like the real fantasy here is various public uh safety departments envisioning
00:32:50.620 what they would do with an unlimited budget like have a giant aircraft carrier for water rescues
00:32:54.300 angelo i'm glad we have dad's wayne and angelo does point out that boys do exactly one thing
00:32:59.720 if they get their hands on a barbie doll i think uh saying that you can imagine it's
00:33:04.680 dredging up childhood memories of myself at this point yeah yeah we all know what that is
00:33:08.740 yeah yeah don't give barbies to your boys
00:33:14.260 weird stuff don't give barbies your boys and and yeah positive depictions of masculinity
00:33:21.840 community are good for young boys. And I think that we should support those. And that's why
00:33:27.580 I'm saying just, you know, put, put a sword in your young kid's hand. I mean, you, if you're a
00:33:33.540 boy or if you have boys or, you know, grandsons that you'll see that kids, young boys will
00:33:41.260 automatically, they, they'd be walking down the street and they pick up a stick and suddenly
00:33:45.540 that stick turns into a sword and they're on an adventure and teach them that they have the power.
00:33:51.360 and this is key do not ever let anyone tell them they don't exactly i'd say even a bigger picture
00:33:59.020 thing there a thing that bothers me you'll have these adults who will say this is a great
00:34:03.740 kid show because it engages with with more nuance or whatever we made a character and
00:34:10.060 their parents are divorced and they have a messed up home life and i'm really wondering if that
00:34:14.980 should be basically considered very bad behavior for anyone who's under the age of 11 or 12 or
00:34:19.580 something because i feel like we actually benefit if you give kids zero irony be an awesome
00:34:25.240 superhero and they're on a team of other awesome superheroes who do heroic good stuff and they beat
00:34:30.500 the bad guys you don't want all these weird moral layers and ambiguities going on because then
00:34:35.960 they'll just they'll just be messed up in the head and you want them to be superheroes yeah and oh by
00:34:39.880 the way i i should also add and since i appreciate you guys indulging this topic um because i do
00:34:44.420 think it's important for parenting it's not just about he-man but where did the original he-man
00:34:49.300 kind of fall off like why was something that was so popular that controlled like the entire you know
00:34:55.940 kid space kiddom until you know the the late 80s and i i argue that it was when they introduced
00:35:06.020 he-man's sister she-ra and they went all in on she-ra and she-ra became the twin sister of he-man
00:35:15.380 And then suddenly, it wasn't just he has the power,
00:35:18.140 it's that she has the power, too.
00:35:21.100 And were there some girls that brought it?
00:35:23.000 I'm sure.
00:35:24.500 But, you know, what did it do?
00:35:27.080 I think it turned off a lot of the boys,
00:35:29.820 and it was something that kind of, like, you know,
00:35:33.700 made it so that the franchise just did not continue
00:35:37.320 through the 90s and never really took off again
00:35:41.580 in the way that it had before.
00:35:43.940 And I think it was I think it was because they messed up the psychology that the deep programming of feminism in our culture is something that's worth thinking about and studying.
00:35:53.440 You know, I recently was became aware of the fact that, you know, when the original suffragettes were kind of pushing their propaganda, guess who their main opponent was?
00:36:03.760 it was actually women women that so they they would do these votes across the country and you
00:36:09.960 know in massachusetts for example they they did some vote on uh women's suffrage and it was like
00:36:15.480 94 to 6 the women uh were against it so uh it's very interesting when you think about this was
00:36:22.860 like 150 year project maybe even longer really back to the 1840s it has been so long in the
00:36:29.980 making so deeply ingrained in the psyche of the culture that you kind of can't really you it's
00:36:35.500 hard to understand for each person where the programming begins and ends so we've all been
00:36:40.140 totally propagandized about this stuff and i it is a weird phenomenon when it comes to the male
00:36:46.520 psyche and i totally agree with you on this jack men if you celebrate them and push them and
00:36:51.860 champion them they will go from boys to men they will become fully formed human adults
00:36:56.720 with strength power and authority if you don't if women swarm they will shrink back it's i don't
00:37:04.160 know if you want to call that that is a weakness of the of the sex i don't know but there is a
00:37:09.000 thing that if you if you cut off a man's development early he will not fully form he will become a
00:37:14.460 weak man he will become a shrinking violet he will do all the things that we don't want men to do
00:37:18.940 but if you champion him and he gets fully formed he's unstoppable and so i you see this in the
00:37:24.260 workplace one of the things that i keep thinking about and blake blake was the one who actually
00:37:27.840 brought this to my attention was the helen andrews piece where she's talking about the
00:37:31.640 great awokening that the the females are starting to over populate in corporate spaces they're
00:37:37.640 becoming the majority in corporate spaces i think we can't underestimate how disastrous this can be
00:37:43.340 because there is something about men you see this as a university now it's what 62 percent of
00:37:48.160 degrees go to women now at this point like which is obscene when men used to dominate used to be
00:37:53.640 like 80 20 it's like invading locusts i i mean no disrespect to the women but you got to champion
00:37:59.120 men or they will shrink back but once they become fully formed once they become powerful
00:38:03.160 they'll become the protectors of civilization so i totally agree jack we need to encourage young
00:38:08.800 men to watch he-man i think it's great it's great programming it's great for the the development of
00:38:13.140 young boys minds but um i there is something about women they'll just keep coming they'll just keep
00:38:18.420 coming, and men will shrink back.
00:38:20.860 Maybe it is a weakness of the male
00:38:22.800 sex, but you've got to promote
00:38:24.720 them. You've got to champion them.
00:38:27.760 Totally agree.
00:38:28.900 I think that's all great.
00:38:30.700 I think the biggest picture thing of all
00:38:32.760 is it illustrates
00:38:34.340 the importance of dudes
00:38:36.420 specifically really need
00:38:38.240 implicitly all male spaces.
00:38:41.540 Some of that is
00:38:42.500 actual organizations. I think the Boy Scouts
00:38:44.760 clearly went into a tailspin
00:38:46.980 when they started letting girls in.
00:38:48.420 I don't think that's surprising.
00:38:50.580 But it's even with things.
00:38:51.760 It's like you said with the He-Man thing.
00:38:53.320 Guys are going to want a thing that is just the guy thing.
00:38:56.340 I think it's really messed with the military that we've let women into it.
00:39:00.040 I think in an existential way, it's just guys.
00:39:03.540 This probably goes back to the step when the original proto-Indo-Europeans
00:39:07.960 were expanding with their horse warrior legions
00:39:11.540 to conquer the entirety of Europe and India and the Middle East and all of that.
00:39:15.680 but they got to have their their group of dudes you got to have a dudes rock club this is why i
00:39:20.480 think it's i think it's diabolical that women always want to invade male spaces it's completely
00:39:25.680 diabolical because we so fundamentally need those spaces we need those shows we need those
00:39:30.900 programs we need those those experiences as young people and so they all get attacked that's what
00:39:35.960 they're doing though it's all biological there women have the biological need to push against
00:39:41.060 this and they are testing if we have the resolve to say no and deep down i think they want us to
00:39:48.060 say no but are we going to be strong enough to do it yeah are we going to be strong enough to say no
00:39:52.920 we're not going to green light the she-ra movie women are crying out women are crying out across
00:39:59.500 america don't make a she-ra movie don't let it happen but they're saying the opposite and we
00:40:06.040 have to be strong enough remember when they did that uh ghostbusters with all women oh that was
00:40:10.580 terrible yeah see they didn't actually want to make chick ghostbusters they were saying i want
00:40:15.680 to make chick ghostbusters crying out for a man to say no that that's not necessary kind of like
00:40:22.520 the new supergirl movie which we haven't talked about but just again we're not even going to
00:40:26.820 dignify that with an extended discussion i will say having watched both i'm glad that he-man is
00:40:35.100 out there that that they can go that there is an op like how did it do it's already been out for
00:40:40.020 like a month uh how did it do jack it didn't do great unfortunately no he-man did not do well
00:40:46.460 and i definitely did better than supergirl to be fair it depends on supergirl but i it did not do
00:40:51.260 that well and i would argue that's because they didn't lean into this type of marketing and doing
00:40:57.480 it this way you know saying hey this is a movie for boys and it's unapologetically a movie for
00:41:02.800 boys because in the marketing they kind of played up you know some of these other aspects and i
00:41:08.320 think that i think that people maybe got the wrong take on it or they saw him sitting at a desk with
00:41:14.540 pronouns and they didn't think that it was like a like a satire it was making fun of the pronouns
00:41:19.020 the first hour is pretty uh female-coded and well and they do this i think that i didn't care for
00:41:24.740 looking at that trailer they throw in the you know they throw the little i know how to use it joke
00:41:29.920 and a few similar things like they actually they dilute what could be a boy adventure with a
00:41:35.740 handful of bits of call it joss whedon-esque humor uh you know to make it flip it and light
00:41:41.640 and this is totally it appeals to millennials look at this i i think it's a big misfire it
00:41:47.860 reminds me when they made when they made the power rangers movie about a decade ago and i saw it and
00:41:53.660 i just thought i saw it because i was a huge power rangers nut as a kid and i thought the way to do
00:41:57.980 that movie would have been you go 10 out of 10 it's cartoonish everyone's making weird japanese
00:42:03.740 hand gestures as they talk just like in the show and they're all super earnest all the kids are
00:42:09.120 do-gooders just like they are in the show and you just give it a bigger budget and it'd be really
00:42:13.020 entertaining and instead they did that where they made it oh the kids are they're now like bad boys
00:42:18.020 and girls they meet in detention and one of them like she's she feels she's like disgraced because
00:42:24.800 she shared i think nude photos of a friend like to to hurt her and then that friend killed herself
00:42:31.020 or something they added all this darkness and i'm like this is a power ranger that was in power
00:42:34.780 rangers yeah they had this in power rangers and it just totally messed up well i mean we did go
00:42:39.240 through a phase of the same time it was the same time that we had revenge porn in power rangers
00:42:45.160 stick yeah josh trank where it was like every superhero movie darker and edgier it was so bad
00:42:51.740 it was it was that it was that yeah we need to we have too much irony in our society we're gonna
00:42:57.840 we need to take the irony out and tell kids they should be awesome because awesome people yeah we
00:43:01.440 need corn corny is okay yeah it's okay to be corny reminds me it reminds me of what uh my pastor
00:43:08.480 used to say he he would just like because we always like present those like oh he was a drug
00:43:13.060 dealer and he went to prison and now he gave his life to jesus and he's like i want to make a church
00:43:18.140 i want to like support and preach to a church that has a lot of boring testimonies like you know like
00:43:23.980 we don't need everybody to be their life story to be you know something you could turn into a novel
00:43:29.100 okay so like let's just keep it straight here's what's interesting though blake you are right
00:43:33.180 about this demographic failure is what they say audience data from variety revealed the movie
00:43:37.400 heavily relied on nostalgia attracting an audience that was 66 male not a bad thing actually but
00:43:43.400 here's the bad thing and 40 over the age of 45 it completely failed to capture younger crowds with
00:43:48.740 children under 12 making up only four percent of the audience so something to jack's point that
00:43:55.060 could have been so good for young people didn't get to any young people but anyways what's
00:43:59.060 interesting is 45 they're really they're just dragging it's like hey well this well i mean
00:44:03.480 the first trailer they kept bouncing between the 1983 he-man and the new like they kept kind of
00:44:11.260 interspersing the scenes so that was it was very much yeah they were going after the nostalgia but
00:44:16.520 get this mgm studios may still green light a sequel because it is a considered a core ip asset
00:44:23.720 and can drive prime video streaming subscriptions and long-term ecosystem by amazon i can see this
00:44:30.300 i could see this movie becoming a streaming hit i could absolutely see this movie becoming a
00:44:35.960 streaming hit because especially if you have the ability to forward and rewind you could forward
00:44:41.120 through the first hour of this film and just and kids will just literally just enjoy the action
00:44:46.200 Yeah, my five-year-old, to your point, he'll be like, Daddy, I don't want to watch the
00:44:51.840 talking parts.
00:44:52.840 Yeah, exactly.
00:44:53.840 Well, and that's the biggest thing, is that first-
00:44:55.960 Give me the- I just want to watch the He-Man parts.
00:44:58.380 That first hour is very, like, it's two different movies.
00:45:02.000 For sure.
00:45:03.000 Yeah.
00:45:04.000 And Amazon does own-
00:45:05.000 If they turn it into a stream.
00:45:06.000 Yeah.
00:45:07.000 Yeah, so Amazon owns MGM.
00:45:08.160 So something to be said, and obviously Disney has been, Andrew, this is more your lane of
00:45:14.740 of country, but something I know Disney has been experimenting with this as well as sort
00:45:18.640 of like the, in the theater plus on streaming, either simultaneous release, or you do like
00:45:24.400 a couple, um, you know, a couple of weeks in theater and then you go to streaming because
00:45:30.380 if you have a streaming service that's owned by the studio, which used to be separate.
00:45:35.360 So it used to be separate income streams.
00:45:37.020 Now it's the same company owns both.
00:45:39.260 And so you can make your money back or you can do other things that make your money back
00:45:44.260 with the streaming service, so that overall piece there of the box office isn't always
00:45:51.620 going to be the end all be all.
00:45:53.260 And of course, Warner Brothers with DC, they just got brought out, they're tied up in the
00:45:58.500 big Paramount merger, so it's not totally, the ink is not dried on that.
00:46:04.860 I'm actually told by a guy who I know on the HBO side that they haven't fully vested, etc.
00:46:10.580 but you know it's it's we're just changing the the marketplace is basically what i'm saying
00:46:16.040 there is a uh extra credit scene for he-man that shows she-ra um and it's high it's heavily implied
00:46:23.780 that it's gonna be sydney sweeney so if if they're gonna actually make money off of a movie that
00:46:29.560 would be the best way to do it is to have her be the be she-ra why not
00:46:35.840 oh my gosh speaking of we need to move on to the next which will you know while our mind is in the
00:46:47.720 gutter we may as well keep it there because we need to have a debate over id verification because
00:46:53.520 congress is they're not lurching into action on birthright citizenship they're not lurching into
00:46:58.560 action on a lot of things but democrats and republicans have finally come together to say
00:47:02.760 that we should restrict the internet more.
00:47:05.280 And we were actually having a big debate about this
00:47:07.320 in our pre-show chat.
00:47:08.760 So we thought, why not bring it on air?
00:47:10.220 The segue here, I guess,
00:47:11.780 is that it's also about kids in a sense
00:47:15.300 because there's an act
00:47:18.200 that is going through Congress right now
00:47:20.600 talking about,
00:47:23.120 and when you look at the headline of it,
00:47:25.540 you'd think this would be something
00:47:26.820 that everyone would support,
00:47:29.540 that a lot of parents would support.
00:47:32.760 about banning children from accessing pornography online.
00:47:38.520 This is obviously something that we can all agree is good.
00:47:40.900 This is something that Charlie talked about at length, including I believe on this program
00:47:44.700 and certainly obviously on the main show.
00:47:47.280 And this is something that we all want to do.
00:47:49.680 A lot of states have been adding these age verifications on at the state level for these
00:47:56.280 websites.
00:47:57.280 However, what this new bill is doing and, oh gosh,
00:48:02.280 that just passed the House, I believe.
00:48:03.820 And, Blake, if you have the name of it, you could help me with that.
00:48:06.280 Yeah, it has just that lovely name, the Kids' Internet and Digital Safety Act,
00:48:11.620 which I've been around the block enough to just say, like,
00:48:14.600 that's a name to run away from very quickly.
00:48:17.360 Think of the children.
00:48:18.020 Think of the children.
00:48:20.460 So that all sounds good.
00:48:22.520 However, Blake, what are the problems with it?
00:48:27.280 and yet let's see if it's pushed by meta uh it's i don't know i suppose i think the uh main the
00:48:32.500 person they bothered to name in this write-up about it is senator marsha blackburn who is a
00:48:36.520 republican but i mean it actually passed with bipartisan support i just you know if you look
00:48:43.540 at the details it says that companies have to have ways to limit addictive features in their
00:48:49.240 apps for kids you need to have they have to have policies in place to protect children from sexual
00:48:54.260 exploitation uh this a senate version which would be even tougher would add a duty of care on social
00:49:00.500 media companies for young people which that strikes me as something that would be really
00:49:05.020 dangerous because you're essentially creating this unlimited ambit for the government to come
00:49:10.880 in and say oh this company it wasn't following its duty of care towards children we can blow
00:49:17.260 it to smithereens and all i can think of is that would be so easy to blow up twitter for example
00:49:23.640 x and say oh you were allowing kids to get access to inappropriate content because it was racist
00:49:29.540 because it was pornographic because it was any number of things better blow it to smithereens
00:49:34.340 and that's why i'm always wary of any online safety bill personally i don't understand why
00:49:40.160 the why we don't just do something i don't but well okay go ahead so so you're asking why is
00:49:49.200 meta behind it it says meta just real quick meta is behind it because this puts the onus on the
00:49:56.000 app store and the play store and gives immunity to what they refer to as like the social media
00:50:02.060 providers so facebook etc those guys would have protections whereas they're saying the onus is now
00:50:08.680 on the it's like it's at the phone level basically well and that's a lot of that also has to be
00:50:15.200 because Facebook has already done a bunch
00:50:18.440 to limit access to Facebook and to Instagram with kids.
00:50:26.580 You now have parental controls.
00:50:29.000 You now have time controls.
00:50:31.660 They're limiting liability.
00:50:33.260 It's all about limiting liability, right?
00:50:35.500 I don't understand why.
00:50:36.940 So I would love the option.
00:50:38.220 So I sign up for internet at my house, right?
00:50:40.380 I pay the internet service provider a monthly fee.
00:50:43.180 I would love the option to opt in to any of these porn websites are disallowed in your house.
00:50:52.820 And if you want to go in the back end and they get one of them wrong or something,
00:50:56.120 but if somebody created a database that, hey, these websites are unavailable at your house,
00:51:00.840 I would opt into that for the sake of my family, for the sake of the internet, for the sake of the country.
00:51:06.020 I think a lot of families would.
00:51:08.140 That seems to be, if you're just dealing with porn, that's one thing.
00:51:10.880 These guys, this thing is too broad sweeping.
00:51:13.780 And I think it opens the Pandora's box of censorship
00:51:17.340 and potentially creating criminal liability
00:51:20.760 or civil liability on stuff
00:51:22.660 that should be the parent's domain.
00:51:24.400 That's my first instinct here.
00:51:27.940 Yeah, so I mean, I'm sure there's like apps or VPNs
00:51:31.240 that already do that.
00:51:32.000 And you're absolutely right.
00:51:33.100 There should be something that is done
00:51:35.440 at the service provider level.
00:51:37.040 The issue that I see with it, of course, though, from a privacy standpoint, though, and this
00:51:44.180 is where I've seen a lot of pushback online, is people are saying, well, wait a minute,
00:51:48.840 is this going to create some giant government database where the government can then see
00:51:55.220 every single person who's associated with a certain username online?
00:52:00.520 And I'm a huge support.
00:52:02.720 So if that's true, I'm totally opposed to something like that because I think, look,
00:52:09.260 the MAGA movement would not exist without internet anonymity.
00:52:12.740 We have all lived in a world where we have seen people canceled over anonymous writings
00:52:18.160 that have later then been attributed to them or just regular writings that have attributed
00:52:24.480 to them that are totally, just totally normal opinions.
00:52:28.280 You know, as we keep meaning to cover it, but like the opinions of a normal person 30 years ago.
00:52:34.120 And I think that we live in a time that's where we're totally controlled by the longhouse.
00:52:38.860 We're totally controlled by our institutions are controlled by our enemies.
00:52:42.340 We had debanking going on up until like five minutes ago of conservatives.
00:52:48.260 And so, you know, giving away Internet anonymity would be a very, very foolish move to do.
00:52:54.820 And like the grand chessboard.
00:52:56.420 i don't think i don't think we are i don't think you need anonymity all the time though
00:53:06.540 like i don't i don't think that there is a reason to like yeah sure is it nice to sometimes be able
00:53:15.340 to like not like be able to kind of cover your thing yourself but i don't think anonymity especially
00:53:22.220 on the internet is anything more than a smoke screen because everybody has an iphone everybody
00:53:29.260 uses their face id everybody or not just russ not just an iphone but think about it so listen i i
00:53:37.440 think your heart's in the right place but think about it in terms of politics right how many
00:53:40.840 amazing conservative right-wing mega accounts existed simply because they were able to be
00:53:46.480 anonymous and tell the truth online if they would have their identities would have been doxed then
00:53:50.800 They would have lost their jobs.
00:53:52.900 We're in this unique position where we're able to say and do and think what we want freely and not be fired for it, not be sent to the HR team.
00:54:01.920 That's just not the case for a lot of people.
00:54:03.820 They have to protect their identities.
00:54:06.160 I remember when this debate became front and center.
00:54:09.340 It was like Jordan Peterson versus Cerno is the way I remember it.
00:54:13.400 Do you remember this, Poso, where Jordan Peterson was raging against the Anon accounts?
00:54:18.600 and it was like well you know i mean it's a recurring trend 1.0 i'm going to hold him to
00:54:25.100 this jordan peterson 1.0 in 2017 went on joe rogan and was celebrating uh uh anon's online
00:54:34.060 and was saying that like these these accounts are great i love it they're so good they they say
00:54:38.980 things that no one else can say you need to be anonymous in a time like this like the guy literally
00:54:42.800 was like preaching solzhenitsyn who obviously you know lived in the soviet union so at a place where
00:54:48.440 the anonymity was necessary or you could uh you could die and then all of a sudden jordan peterson
00:54:54.020 like totally flipped on that during like covid okay i i will say what totally happens is there
00:55:01.460 are people who are broadly in favor of anonymity or they turn against it and crash out over it
00:55:06.020 because anonymous people fights with them online and they can't handle it which i think is
00:55:10.960 kind of a little lame and pathetic i think there's also just 100 i've seen people who think
00:55:17.100 oh people who are anonymous basically shouldn't be allowed to have takes i've seen that i think
00:55:22.800 richard hanani has argued that and then there's also just how to put it like some people just
00:55:32.960 can't handle anonymous people existing and i think it's actually a very important right that
00:55:37.100 if you have the ability to say something you should be able to say it anonymously period and
00:55:42.640 another thing i would add is if you've been around online enough you've seen sometimes
00:55:47.880 journalists or activists will be feuding with someone and they're clearly trying to goad
00:55:54.140 somebody into giving them their identity just so they can go and mess with their life and mess
00:55:58.460 around with them i mean it's happened with all of the lunatic conspiracy theorists around charlie
00:56:02.240 they want to probe into everyone's personal life i've seen them do this to random people pushing
00:56:06.420 back against them online there's you have to have their ability to be anonymous because it is
00:56:11.400 one of the fundamental tools that an ordinary person has to resist those who want to act
00:56:17.340 tyrannically against them sometimes that's government sometimes that's just organizations
00:56:21.560 and companies sometimes it's just people who have more social power than you but are we really saying
00:56:25.700 that the government doesn't already have a list of people with their handles and they can't find
00:56:32.620 they have a lot they can't find they have a lot but it's a pain in the butt for them and there's
00:56:36.520 weird bureaucratic obstacles that if you tear them down will make it a lot easier for them for sure
00:56:42.180 to weaponize but look at prism so this is where prism was a was a thing and was taking on our
00:56:48.460 taking all of our data for years before it ever got whistleblown so saying that the government
00:56:55.080 doesn't already you know i i will say though it's like this is where i get really torn up on the
00:57:01.340 palantir debate you know because they're trying to build databases and get the different agencies
00:57:05.820 to talk to each other so that the government is you know no like for example the social security
00:57:11.660 administration knows what the well uh welfare and medicaid know etc etc i support that because i
00:57:18.340 want to get rid of illegals off the rolls i want to get them off the i want to detect fraud but
00:57:22.960 yeah there is a there is a point where you're kind of like i do want to be able to be left alone
00:57:28.700 and not surveilled all the time if i want to be you know and there needs to be there needs to be
00:57:33.680 align so yeah i mean i guess i'm arguing this from a pragmatic perspective whereas obviously i want
00:57:41.520 to protect internet anonymity online as much as possible having been a guy who had palantir access
00:57:48.080 and not prism access but access to other things um it's it it like the the the user in the
00:57:55.200 intelligence community doesn't have the ability to just like look up anything like that like there
00:57:59.120 are still as blake says there are all these like hoops you have to jump through there are bureaucratic
00:58:03.360 protections etc you can't just like blanket go after people the way that you could potentially
00:58:08.560 if you were like say a bad actor at apple or google and we certainly know that there are
00:58:12.800 lots of bad actors at google um probably apple as well and when certainly if you look at their uh
00:58:19.520 their founder's ex and the way that she spends her money her the widow and when you you don't
00:58:26.400 want to make it easy for these companies to be able to do that number one but number two to
00:58:32.560 To Andrew's point that this is where libertarianism fails, and I think we've talked about this
00:58:38.500 a number of times, is that they keep saying like, oh, we shouldn't give the government
00:58:41.860 this power, we shouldn't give the government this power, and then along comes someone who
00:58:45.080 just gives the government that power, and then suddenly they have it, and now you're
00:58:48.920 stuck in a corner arguing that they shouldn't have it, but they're never going to give up
00:58:52.200 said power.
00:58:53.380 So the only actual viable option left to you is to take over the government, because you
00:58:59.540 You have to control the sword, right?
00:59:01.820 You must go back to He-Man, right?
00:59:04.340 You have to be the one who picks up the sword and says, this is mine now.
00:59:08.140 And then you must defend it because just because power can be wielded in an abusive way doesn't
00:59:14.020 mean that you should just like sit in the corner and argue like, oh, well, we shouldn't
00:59:17.640 do anything.
00:59:18.640 That's going to give ourselves power because eventually they will find a way to get power
00:59:22.720 and come after you.
00:59:23.720 And we've certainly all experienced that.
00:59:26.000 We've all seen that throughout the Biden era.
00:59:28.240 question, Merrick Garland. And it is where you just need to fight back. You just need to be
00:59:34.640 able to fight back. Well, isn't this law, though, Jack? Isn't this law, like, if you're trying to
00:59:40.700 look at porn or something like that, you have to put in, like, an ID? Isn't that part of this law?
00:59:47.040 I think that's the state law. I think that's the state law. That's currently where the state laws are
00:59:51.180 like that i know yeah this is a law that says if you i guess want to download apps you have to um
00:59:59.340 you have to put in government id see that that's very uncomfortable yeah i kind of i think there's
01:00:06.660 eccentric ways to go about this that would make it better too so for example one of the ideas i've
01:00:12.120 liked for uh for adult websites for pornographic ones is you'd have the requirement that you have
01:00:18.160 to pay for it even if it's 10 cents you have to actually go and input a credit card into it you
01:00:24.120 know maybe you maybe you go and get one of those prepaid ones if you want to get around it but i
01:00:28.160 think one a lot of people will finally be attacked with shame when they're realizing i am paying for
01:00:33.980 this dirty product and two it's just it's a hurdle that's annoying to get over well so you're
01:00:38.980 increasing the commitment needed to get it and that's essentially what the states are relying
01:00:42.900 on by having you put in your government yes because you have to essentially take a picture
01:00:46.920 of your id so it is that yeah listen i'm all for good ideas to like reduce porn consumption
01:00:54.620 especially amongst young people but like when you're getting to the point where you have to
01:00:59.880 put an idea and there's just something about that that feels again like counter could have as
01:01:05.800 americans again i i think there should be massive massive tools to fight back against this stuff
01:01:10.860 but like having to put your idea in to download an app i don't know like that's just it just feels
01:01:16.120 like there's uh against the spirit of the internet well one of the arguments i was just pulling up
01:01:21.160 some stuff about it was was they were pointing out that one of the reasons that meta may be for
01:01:26.540 this so much is that this actually to your point earlier takes the liability away from meta and
01:01:33.580 takes the liability away in the way that the state laws are actually are actually much stricter so
01:01:39.360 the state laws are stricter but obviously a state law couldn't countermand a national law so that's
01:01:45.160 why meta and probably a bunch of the other you know tech companies are sitting there saying hey
01:01:50.600 the way that we can beat these state laws is by passing this national law which is actually
01:01:55.100 just going to be like a like a thin veneer of uh regulation that you know isn't going to really
01:02:01.140 prevent anyone from seeing this kind of stuff but it gets a liability off our back yeah but here's
01:02:07.240 the thing like tech savvy kids are going to find a way around that by the way and the other thing
01:02:12.340 that comes to mind is like where are they going to go to get this stuff if they're not going you
01:02:19.420 know on normal the normal internet are they going to like 4chan chats are they going to reddit chats
01:02:23.900 like where are they going to go some sort of dark web corners where maybe they're you know i i don't
01:02:28.760 know i there there's there's just like a thousand bad things that can happen if you do if you if you
01:02:34.760 start doing this um but again i i support it in in spirit but i just think like so many other
01:02:42.760 things that conservatives end up doing from a legislative standpoint the law of unintended
01:02:47.680 consequences and they're betraying certain principles that we shouldn't betray um i don't
01:02:52.920 know you're here whatever blake thinks i mean my big take generally it's you know we think of ways
01:02:59.480 to negotiate this and my big take is basically that an almost fully anonymous internet had
01:03:05.340 essentially zero downsides everything we've done to curtail that has been because of panic attacks
01:03:11.060 people had that was the internet bad in 2014 because that's how long you go you have to go
01:03:15.960 back to basically totally unfettered super anonymous super free internet that's when
01:03:21.260 reddit still had subreddits that were and why did they take it away they took it away because
01:03:26.040 got mad because they thought it was oh we took it away because trump won because of the anons in
01:03:31.060 2016 because gamer gate and then and then you know sort of the online sphere in 2016 that it morphed
01:03:39.080 into that became the mega supporters that eventually you know and it's like those people
01:03:44.440 kept getting unmasked and it's like oh it turns out that they were actually like people who were
01:03:49.580 quite professional or quite intelligent that for whatever reason had been you know pushed out of
01:03:53.980 their companies or pushed out of the academy or whatever it was that that's why it became such a
01:03:59.060 threat and so we all praise elon for um you know for returning us to some semblance of that and
01:04:05.800 allowing that to happen again that there aren't issues with x uh one of which by the way i'd be
01:04:10.120 remiss if i didn't mention that i think it's a huge mistake that pornography is allowed on x i i
01:04:14.500 continue to say that that's a huge mistake i think that elon should take uh steps to to correct that
01:04:20.160 i don't think that it it should be something that's allowed to be shared at all on x i think
01:04:24.700 it's bad although i will note it was allowed on their back again during the super liberal free
01:04:28.840 speech times as well and i will say yeah bizarrely that's where how much smut is injected everywhere
01:04:35.080 in life i will say i never ever accidentally run into smut on x despite being there i don't ever
01:04:41.660 see it on x so they're pretty good at keeping one wall problems with x no i'll just say one of the
01:04:47.120 big problems is if you're using the advanced search tools that to where you're searching
01:04:51.980 like every tweet that a lot of these pornographers then will target like trending topics or like
01:04:59.240 city names that are trending and then put that in the description of the tweet so if
01:05:03.880 you're using an advanced Twitter search tool which I use all the time that then those tweets
01:05:08.500 will start coming up so you won't see them I just typically on like your actual algorithm
01:05:15.060 But if you're using advanced search or if you're just typed in like, you know, you're searching for something like, boom, you're just hit with it.
01:05:22.200 And you're like, what the heck is this?
01:05:23.500 I just on balance think that the ultra, you know, the liberalized Internet in the classical sense was basically a great thing.
01:05:31.180 And it's only been downhill when it's been restricted in any way.
01:05:35.380 And it's been it's just annoyingly easy for the left to say this is for the kids and they get the right on board with stuff that inevitably doesn't really protect kids much and does open the door to a bunch of other things.
01:05:48.600 And even it's just how often does this happen where they say, OK, we're worried about kids getting groomed on the Internet.
01:05:55.020 I know that's a reasonable fear to think about, but actually how often does that happen versus, let's say, the most mundane thing in the world?
01:06:02.740 What would save more kids if we said we're going to have this strict internet control regime to stop groomers or actually you're not allowed to raise a kid with your mom's boyfriend?
01:06:12.760 He's not allowed to live in the same house as you.
01:06:14.400 I bet that would stop a lot more child abuse than any of this.
01:06:18.560 Yeah, I just want to say it again.
01:06:21.060 i would love if they just dealt with it at the internet service provider level like every house
01:06:26.180 like here's your cox or here's your whatever uh internet service and they just said do you want
01:06:31.320 to opt in for the for your children to ban these certain websites yeah it's great that's still
01:06:36.380 gonna i mean that's still gonna take something from congress because no company is gonna actually
01:06:40.340 do that like like well i mean there's already probably like third party culture we live in
01:06:45.200 groups that that have it yeah parental controls aren't like a a new thing like parental controls
01:06:52.860 exist for like i have it for roku for example we have like we're a roku house and you know i have
01:06:58.240 it set up that like my kids can't it just mean it'd be easier download and purchase and you get
01:07:02.860 it at the source you get it at the source because like right now it's like if i want to put parental
01:07:07.300 controls i got to deal with like this streamer this streamer this like laptop whatever like
01:07:12.420 we're not really at that phase yet um but it it it sort of makes you wonder like you other
01:07:18.500 it's like whack-a-mole right now as opposed to just like hey you can you know opt into something
01:07:24.100 simple i i think that would be a simpler solution i think what you know how how decentralized it is
01:07:29.500 and how different each platform is you also have to learn each new thing that your kid can get
01:07:33.320 and get access to in order to do it um i think it's a huge huge problem and i think most parents
01:07:40.220 are confused how do you like it sounds like you need a tech guy but if i if i'm feeling like that
01:07:47.140 russ then like how many says how many other parents are uh his uh i'm not offering my services
01:07:52.840 i'm already my parents tech guy i don't need to be so much i'm just like hey whoa whoa this
01:07:57.780 opportunity man like like pitches like shoot your shot man this is it shouldn't be this hard
01:08:04.020 it shouldn't be this hard as a parent as that's all i'm saying so all right i want to make sure
01:08:08.980 we've been going a while we don't we said we'd double back to this and i think we need to double
01:08:12.500 back to it we've got to double back to the ac question should real quick europeans have rights
01:08:19.620 given that they have been granted freedom and they use it to deny themselves air conditioning
01:08:24.620 like absolute psychopaths no we need to shut down um european governments until we can understand
01:08:32.500 what the hell is going on because uh apparently in some countries they are actually i think it
01:08:40.160 was the uk where they were shutting there's a massive heat wave going on in europe temperatures
01:08:45.260 are like over 100 degrees fahrenheit because that's that's god's uh temperature system we're
01:08:53.340 not going to use anything else around granular it's more granular it is more granular and we
01:08:59.060 are going to use it which is based off of water which is the the source of all life and and as
01:09:05.800 opposed to uh any other systems that they're all dying they're all dying because they're refusing
01:09:13.380 to allow people to use air conditioning because they all believe in climate change
01:09:17.800 like is this actually true yes i it seems that the europeans who have largely abandoned christianity
01:09:25.040 and abandoned their great civilized civilizing mission that uplifted the entire planet they
01:09:31.000 have now embraced the culture of decay the culture of assisted suicide and the culture of just
01:09:35.920 overheating yourself to death headed the way of the heathen i actually think this is a really this
01:09:40.700 is actually a profoundly important thing because the left itself is allowing the world to split
01:09:46.900 into a political axis of pro-air conditioning and anti-air conditioning and there are fewer
01:09:53.700 there are very few issues i think we can get a 90 10 advantage on and i think we can get that on
01:09:59.400 air conditioning should exist and is awesome and we should put it in everything now here i gotta
01:10:04.440 ask a question jack what do you keep your thermostat at uh well as you know as a guy
01:10:14.640 who has a european wife uh this is constantly an issue in my household because of course
01:10:22.800 tanya tay is you know not super you know not a super big fan of air conditioning to begin with
01:10:29.060 so we we currently ride around like 71 72 okay andrew so that's which represents a compromise
01:10:39.040 to be sure 74 okay blake you answer first no no no i'm asking this is gonna make me sound
01:10:48.940 truly demented most of the time when i am at home if if i'm not trying to go to sleep i keep it at
01:10:56.320 like 79 jimmy christmas okay uh we float between 73 and 75 i turn it on side what's weird what i
01:11:05.420 will say is when my air conditioner is running in my apartment it like wherever i am for whatever
01:11:12.500 reason i can feel it actively blowing on me it seems and it always makes it feel way too cold
01:11:17.980 such that even in like if i'm in a t-shirt i keep a longer sleeve kind of like a woolen thing that i
01:11:24.100 had from when i lived in dc and i just keep it on my computer because sometimes if the ac the ac
01:11:28.380 starts running colder like late at night before i go to bed i will just put that on because it is
01:11:33.760 uncomfortably cold to be in a t-shirt so i just i don't want that during the afternoon i say screw
01:11:38.520 this i'm just setting it to 79 so it's not running that off i would rather i would rather put a
01:11:43.420 sweatshirt on then turn the heat up like turn the ac up any higher or or especially with the
01:11:51.300 winter here in arizona i'll i'll open windows and just turn the ac off or like the air off but i
01:11:59.300 would rather put a sweatshirt on put a beanie on put sweats on then i would turn that thing so this
01:12:04.660 is i don't want to be a european here that was me when i was at um when i was at gitmo so where we
01:12:10.740 had these barracks that were basically like corrugated steel, you know, kind of like temporary
01:12:16.880 barracks that people were living in.
01:12:19.240 And so you're in Cuba, right?
01:12:20.500 So the middle of the summer, that's exactly what I did, man.
01:12:22.960 I just cranked that AC like as low as it would go and I put like all my sweats on, like all
01:12:28.380 my PT sweats.
01:12:30.060 And then when I would go out to like, you know, it's like a Saturday, so I'm not on duty
01:12:34.320 or whatever and i would go out to the uh the defect to go get um to go get food i would forget
01:12:41.260 that it's hot outside so i'd feel like i have all my sweats on and then i take one step outside
01:12:46.200 like oh no i've made a horrible decision that's like run yeah that's change that's how it happens
01:12:51.580 like in arizona it'll be like 110 outside it's like frigid cold then all of a sudden you walk
01:12:56.320 outside you're like oh crap never mind yeah this is why i feel like i've adapted to the desert here
01:13:02.400 which is yeah 79 is kind of warm but it's also about 25 to 35 degrees cooler than it is outside
01:13:10.660 and i think that's what you need is you need you need that element of distinction but i'll be i'll
01:13:16.300 be honest i find it a little annoying when it's hyper aced so if i go to a store and it's 115
01:13:24.520 degrees outside and then they're acing it down to 61 degrees or something it's annoying because
01:13:30.080 among other things it means i have to wear long sleeves outside because i'm going to be going into
01:13:35.640 the deep freeze anytime i go to a store it just the contrast gets a little annoying about arizona
01:13:40.700 arizona it's like you're too hot outside and you're too cold inside because everybody runs
01:13:46.480 the ac at like 65 in arizona it's absurd 74 that's comfortable you don't have to wear sweatshirts and
01:13:53.600 all the stuff inside and then outside you get well acclimated i mean hey here's the thing about
01:13:58.540 is crazy but at least we're not dying in mass like that's true like they are in Europe that's
01:14:03.160 true well could I look before we close out because I never get into time I've got to read this take
01:14:07.840 from uh Sarah Salviander on X it's so perfect where she just she writes about the heat wave
01:14:15.680 she talks about in Europe she talks about how in France apparently already a thousand people
01:14:21.180 like a thousand people have died because of excess heat and she writes and yet they're still
01:14:27.840 they're still not allowing AC. And she writes, you can't squash the religious impulse. If you remove
01:14:34.740 God, it will just manifest in other ways. In secular religion, there is an abundant guilt and
01:14:40.060 atonement, but little love and forgiveness. The rituals of atonement are harsh, sometimes to the
01:14:46.080 point of death. Mercy, you deserve no mercy. The earth will not take the punishment for your sins
01:14:52.360 as christ did you will you are the human sacrifice for the sins of humankind so that gets me thinking
01:15:00.480 a funny thing which would be we're used to in christianity we'll have lenten fast so jack you
01:15:05.480 know we can't have meat on fridays actually i'm a fan of the total meat fast during lent because
01:15:10.600 that's what it traditionally was we're used to fasting from certain foods or certain conduct
01:15:16.380 would it actually be a sound religious fast
01:15:19.080 to just fast from AC for a period of time?
01:15:23.460 Not in Arizona.
01:15:24.780 What if we did anyway?
01:15:26.160 I mean, the desert, the earliest Christian monks,
01:15:28.900 they went and they lived in the desert.
01:15:30.420 They were just chilling out there.
01:15:31.300 John the Baptist, he went and lived in the desert.
01:15:33.680 That would be like, because where I'm at on the East Coast,
01:15:38.180 it's cold during Lent.
01:15:40.260 So would I have to fast from heating?
01:15:43.180 Fast from heat.
01:15:43.680 I think that would be a very traditional way of trying to...
01:15:49.300 I would do it.
01:15:50.080 I wouldn't do it for my kids, but I would do it.
01:15:53.380 I kind of want to try this now.
01:15:55.760 Turn on.
01:15:56.320 Be my guest.
01:15:56.980 I could turn off the AC in my apartment.
01:15:58.780 That's actually a really good fast.
01:15:59.660 This could be a fun experiment.
01:16:01.080 This could be a fun experiment.
01:16:02.220 I turn off my AC in my apartment, and I see if I die.
01:16:07.420 On live stream.
01:16:08.940 You have to live stream it, though.
01:16:10.840 I'm not sure I want to live stream my apartment.
01:16:13.040 The stream just ends because his whole house is just boiling.
01:16:16.660 Yeah, Angel will be like, hey, has anyone checked on Blake today?
01:16:19.180 He didn't show for work.
01:16:20.680 Honestly, the scariest thing I'm thinking of is how much horrifying bacterial growth would happen
01:16:26.940 if I was in a place that was 110 degrees and also reasonably humid.
01:16:32.980 Wait, well, you could still have circulation.
01:16:34.780 No one's saying you can't have circulation.
01:16:37.580 Yeah, you can still have deodorant, Blake.
01:16:40.540 And deodorant, yes.
01:16:42.140 Sorry.
01:16:43.040 Oh my gosh. On that note. He's got me thinking with bacteria. Yeah.
01:16:49.760 Deodorant fast. Take us home, Jack. That's actually a sacrifice for everyone around Blake.
01:16:54.660 Yeah, exactly. That'd be a heck of a punishment. A lint.
01:16:58.480 A human sacrifice. You guys could just keep telling me about your dreams. You guys are all dreaming of this to happen.
01:17:03.360 The AC-less, full man-musk Blake unleashed on the world. Oh gosh, that's not really weird to say.
01:17:09.360 About the sacrifice. The sacrifice.
01:17:11.760 Oh, see, yeah, see, Jack's kids are on board with it now.
01:17:14.340 All right, Jack, Jack, what do you think about this?
01:17:16.520 So Mr. Blake, he's still here, he's half listening.
01:17:19.020 Mr. Blake says, what if we do for Lent next year,
01:17:23.480 now he's saying air conditioning because he lives in Arizona, it's very hot,
01:17:26.060 but for us during Lent, it's cold.
01:17:27.560 What if we did no heat in our house for all of Lent?
01:17:35.300 Do you want to try that?
01:17:36.520 Yeah.
01:17:37.600 Yeah, you think Mama would like that?
01:17:40.660 Yes.
01:17:41.760 Yeah, that'll work really well.
01:17:43.640 All right, good.
01:17:44.800 You can be the one to tell her.
01:17:47.820 We're going to build our spiritual discipline.
01:17:49.860 We're going to get closer to God and the Holy Spirit.
01:17:52.660 We're going to sacrifice for spiritual discipline.
01:17:56.120 All right, Jack.
01:17:56.800 Fair enough.
01:17:57.520 Take us home, brother.
01:17:59.500 Ladies and gentlemen, go out there and commit more thought crime.
01:18:05.120 Thought crime is death.
01:18:11.760 Thank you.