Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 140 — AI Worship Music？ Data Center Debate？ Lake America？

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00:00:10.500 well hello ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard to this week's edition of thought crime

00:00:28.540 We've got an incredible list of topics for you.

00:00:33.120 We've got an incredible amount of thought crimes because as we see, the thought crime piles up day to day, week to week, year to year, most of which, of course, contributed by us.

00:00:45.620 And I love to see that we have the we have the fab four here today with a fab four are here.

00:00:52.700 We got Andrew. What's up, Andrew?

00:00:54.360 I'm just I'm just wondering if we're going to go viral again.

00:00:57.300 And I'm wondering, I'm wondering.

00:00:58.900 It seems like almost every show, we said something.

00:01:02.460 We were kind of off last week.

00:01:04.600 We didn't quite hit the, because we were early with the Lindsey Clancy thing.

00:01:08.800 That's what it was.

00:01:09.540 We were a little bit early.

00:01:11.100 So the women didn't get to attack us in the comments about that yet.

00:01:14.220 So they were already, yeah, the hive mind was already popping off.

00:01:18.420 Yeah, they just hadn't quite realized that they needed the constitutional right to strangle their kids if they were annoying.

00:01:24.820 Oh, gosh.

00:01:25.540 uh we didn't know that we didn't know that was part of the constitution by the way tyler's not

00:01:30.560 wearing a hat so this is this is a big deal hatless tyler yep i do want to say um you'll be

00:01:36.200 like one of you'll be like me soon tyler no that's not true you'll have a shiny for the purposes of

00:01:40.820 lindsey clancy um so as we record it we're recording this on thursday uh we do not know

00:01:47.020 if the jury will come back yet um live in in live in real time here on thursday uh the jury has yet

00:01:54.560 to uh come back with a verdict so we will see so if that changes uh i don't know we'll have to make

00:02:01.900 we'll have to make blake come in on a saturday to record his thought crime response oh there'll be

00:02:06.480 that'll definitely go viral when we respond to that but of course i cannot wait to see the

00:02:11.960 responses from the insane you know and the truth is i'll be honest my my gut read my gut read is

00:02:18.420 we're going to get an acquittal or mistrial.

00:02:20.500 I just think it's nine women, three guys on the jury.

00:02:24.820 Oh, no.

00:02:25.380 And it just does seem...

00:02:26.540 I think it's going to be...

00:02:27.640 You think about how the reason and I think it'll be hard for them to overcome

00:02:30.520 that the husband was testifying on her behalf.

00:02:33.380 I think it's going to be hard for them to overcome.

00:02:36.540 Even though it doesn't make too much sense to us,

00:02:39.480 that's my vibe feel.

00:02:40.920 And then America's going to have a giant spaz out about it.

00:02:43.140 But we don't need to litigate that because we'll have ample chance to do so.

00:02:46.420 and we have hard out tonight for various reasons.

00:02:48.700 So we want to dive in.

00:02:49.780 We were going to talk about AI worship music,

00:02:51.760 and we still want to talk about that.

00:02:53.000 But then hot off the presses,

00:02:55.080 dropping in like a comet from the skies,

00:02:58.040 mere minutes before we went live,

00:03:00.220 President Donald J.

00:03:01.100 Trump dropped his canonical ranking

00:03:06.160 of the United States presidents

00:03:07.980 with like 15 presidents missing,

00:03:11.720 which is pretty funny.

00:03:12.660 But everyone has to break down

00:03:15.240 president trump's list of greatest presidents because honestly it's a pretty funny ranking

00:03:21.400 he has woodrow wilson and fdr as great presidents he has ronald reagan as not a president he's not

00:03:27.740 on the list he has joe biden and obama as failures understandably but neither of the bushes and no

00:03:35.200 nixon no lbj very interesting that is weird that they got left off i wonder i wonder what the

00:03:42.040 explanation for that is if he just might have been ai generated originally yeah i was gonna say

00:03:47.220 but create a ranking of presidents with me at the top of it it's interesting that he he includes

00:03:52.200 uh woodrow wilson that i got a big issue with that in the great and theodore roosevelt a lot

00:03:57.260 of people give theodore roosevelt a pass because he kind of shepherded us through world war ii

00:04:02.780 fdr you mean fdr who did i say you said theodore oh yeah fdr sorry mixed up your roosevelts yeah

00:04:08.020 mixed up well teddy teddy i would have put in the great column and he has wait teddy's not great

00:04:13.160 hold on i gotta i gotta see this better my what genuinely gets me wondering looking at this is

00:04:18.000 that i feel like president trump himself didn't necessarily make all of this is for example

00:04:23.080 it has mckinley as just an average president and we actually know he loves a bit of a mckinley fan

00:04:28.940 he likes the spanish-american war he likes the the assertive foreign policy i think mckinley was

00:04:35.240 also a tariff guy that trump liked like that's actually a president he looks up to yeah i think

00:04:41.000 i was gonna say i think maybe somebody else made this and sent it to him because he does

00:04:46.420 he does post a lot of stuff that other people make and then send over so i think it's more like

00:04:51.000 the way to read this is more like trump is at the top and then biden obama harding and carter

00:04:58.200 are at the bottom but but like grant is it like why are we calling grant a failure

00:05:02.520 grant grant well it's interesting one thing that feels ai generated to me is this is very close to

00:05:11.420 the ranking you would have gotten in the 90s in fact i had a children's book about the presidents

00:05:16.840 that was from the 80s or 90s i think clinton was president when it came out and yeah so it would

00:05:22.040 be the 90s then is it had in the back a ranking of each of the presidents or how historians usually

00:05:27.740 considered them and this was the norm at the time so wilson used to be ranked very highly he only

00:05:34.300 started to fall off when everyone got more obsessed with racism so they started to demote him for was

00:05:39.100 a racist reasons harding and grant were always the failure tier for a lot of the 20th century the

00:05:44.700 idea is grant mismanaged the end of reconstruction that grant had an economic panic that his

00:05:51.360 administration was really corrupt grant and harding both had really corrupt administrations

00:05:54.520 and they got penalized a lot by historians.

00:05:56.500 Whereas today, people are more likely to say Grant was higher

00:05:59.820 because he tried to enforce civil rights for black Americans.

00:06:04.120 So there's been fluctuations in the last 20 years.

00:06:07.100 This is a ranking from 25 years ago.

00:06:08.960 Yeah, but Coolidge was great.

00:06:11.300 But Coolidge is, again, in those lists,

00:06:13.540 Coolidge got ranked lowly mainly because historians are biased

00:06:17.220 towards exciting presidents, and Coolidge was not exciting.

00:06:19.880 He was not exciting. He was just good.

00:06:21.800 And also the lead-in, too.

00:06:23.220 buchanan buchanan was below okay he's got below of average you've got johnson as average

00:06:28.480 no way johnson johnson was terrible johnson was great and no lbj who my humble opinion is that

00:06:34.820 lbj is the worst president it's really interesting wilson should be in the failures it's really

00:06:38.980 interesting that they left off jfk and reagan i think i know the reason for reagan but

00:06:43.520 jfk they actually put so the trump administration last term they they did they issue a special uh

00:06:54.160 christmas ornament every year right so it's very special it's like different every year and it's

00:06:58.640 kind of picked by the president and the first lady one of them one of them was a jfk ornament

00:07:04.860 so i'm not sure why he likes him i'm not sure why you pick jfk it's like the special ornament and

00:07:12.900 then like completely leave them off the list yeah that is interesting um we we have all the we have

00:07:18.760 all the trump year uh white house ornaments but we made sure to not take the illegitimate biden

00:07:23.820 ornaments yeah we refuse completely the jfk one's pretty nice right remember and that was i love the

00:07:29.240 jfk one yeah it's so good hoover as average that's really glaring i would put i would put jfk and

00:07:34.840 oversaw the near great great depression like you can you can simp for hoover a little bit if you

00:07:39.540 want and you know say he doesn't deserve as much blame but like objectively it was a failed

00:07:44.300 presidency in the sense that was a giant crash was totally defined by it gets wiped out on his

00:07:49.840 shot for re-election i don't know how you'd spin hoover positively i don't know how you spin that

00:07:55.480 both bushes are gone yeah no bush no nixon no lbj bushes uh well it's like it's like they left off

00:08:03.620 because they didn't want to tick off supporters.

00:08:06.420 Yeah, they didn't even want to poke.

00:08:07.380 No, Reagan is a really clear one.

00:08:09.840 So JFK, Reagan, H.W.

00:08:11.580 Wait, no, Eisenhower.

00:08:12.620 And W. Bush.

00:08:13.340 Oh, no, Eisenhower either.

00:08:14.620 That's right.

00:08:15.460 Eisenhower, I would put in the near great to great.

00:08:18.080 I would put Reagan.

00:08:19.760 Eisenhower's awesome.

00:08:20.520 Eisenhower's great.

00:08:21.440 Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying,

00:08:22.320 okay, but look at who he's got in the greats, right?

00:08:24.800 He's got Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson.

00:08:26.920 Eisenhower ushered.

00:08:27.880 Washington and Lincoln.

00:08:28.480 Those are pretty dang great.

00:08:29.420 Eisenhower ushered in the new Republican Party.

00:08:33.620 Yeah.

00:08:34.380 Post-World War II.

00:08:35.120 Eisenhower is just like so many accomplishments.

00:08:37.340 Like he is the last American president from really before.

00:08:41.120 60s is when America starts to go to rot.

00:08:43.180 We do great things like we land on the moon.

00:08:44.900 But that's when like the sclerosis of DEI starts to take over our institutions.

00:08:50.540 It's when we stop really building.

00:08:52.420 That's when you start getting all those charts where wages stop going on.

00:08:56.000 What's that one year that everything changed?

00:08:57.500 I think 72 or 73.

00:08:59.440 But a lot of it is a little bit before that.

00:09:01.460 And we opened the borders in 65.

00:09:03.620 Have we ever talked about what it was about 73 that, like, all the metrics start going?

00:09:09.380 People debate it.

00:09:10.260 I don't know that we've ever debated on thought crime, and people aren't sure.

00:09:13.080 A common blame is the oil shock may have set things off, but it's not always easy to figure out.

00:09:19.300 It's not the gold standard at that time, is it?

00:09:21.380 I think that was a little bit earlier, but...

00:09:25.120 That was during Nixon.

00:09:25.980 You know what's interesting?

00:09:27.320 I just found an article that was written by Pat Buchanan in 2012.

00:09:35.360 And it's ranking the presidents?

00:09:36.360 And it's ranking the presidents.

00:09:37.780 I think it's the exact ranking here.

00:09:40.140 It was the American conservative.

00:09:43.540 And look, it says, it's Pat Buchanan.

00:09:46.940 And he said, leading the list for great were Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, FDR,

00:09:52.900 woodrow wilson thomas jefferson andrew jackson so this is this is buchanan's list this is this

00:10:01.900 is buchanan's list and then yeah the near greats are congratulations i figured this out this is

00:10:05.800 exactly this is exactly the 90s list but they must have but they all no no he didn't edit it

00:10:10.860 because they threw biden in this awful this is 2012 though so this is but this is this is peak

00:10:16.920 this is like totally what those 20th century historians would do that woodrow wilson he

00:10:21.340 gets a bonus because he presided over dramatic events like we were in world war one and we won

00:10:27.020 you can and writes the near greats are teddy roosevelt grover cleveland james adams john

00:10:32.220 adams and james capable okay i don't understand the grover cleveland one why i don't why is he

00:10:36.500 considered near great honestly i'm not sure in that case his first term was pretty good his

00:10:42.500 second was not as great which is why he ended up uh getting replaced by a republican again

00:10:48.380 but honestly i'm not sure i'm actually trying to remember grover cleveland's big accomplishments

00:10:53.560 uh he wasn't bad uncompromising integrity he fought corruption veto power used the

00:10:59.780 presidential veto hundreds of times to block private pension bills and federal subsidies

00:11:04.240 he viewed as wasteful or unconstitutional earning a reputation as a watchdog over public funds

00:11:09.220 executive independence he fiercely protected the power autonomy of the executive branch

00:11:13.100 restoring a balance of power between the presidency and congress yeah i mean there's

00:11:17.580 stuff like you would there's a lot to like about grover cleveland if you're a republican he was

00:11:21.300 a democrat and that was a more conservative thing but even i don't know it's it's kind of weird i

00:11:26.840 just find this a very funny list uh i think it's it's amusing how it definitely seems to be

00:11:32.300 channeling it's probable that someone sent it to him and it was a mixture of that 1996 ranking

00:11:37.580 and then making sure to throw in biden and obama as terrible and a couple others in there but yeah

00:11:43.940 I mean, the biggest thing, and this is, like, this is, I think what's most interesting about this list is who's missing, right?

00:11:50.860 So, I think they obviously, this is 2012, so Biden-Obama hadn't existed yet, or I guess this was a middle of Obama.

00:11:59.900 It wasn't even 2012, that was 96, I think, was the ranking he's describing.

00:12:03.140 Oh, really?

00:12:03.760 Yeah.

00:12:04.920 Oh, this is printed on 2012.

00:12:06.580 but anyways the point is is like they left out intentionally like like the the most recent

00:12:14.040 presidents for whatever reason they were looking way more in the past i'm looking at who are uh

00:12:21.380 who the viewers uh dylan is wondering where taft is which is definitely a glaring absence

00:12:27.200 oh wait no he's average yeah there he is what about taft i agree taft is definitely he's average

00:12:32.220 except in size where he is great he's dominating the great tier he's a man in terms of girthiness

00:12:37.480 uh let's see people i think i think the most glaring absence here to me especially if you're

00:12:45.600 looking back past obviously is reagan be interesting to see where where the president

00:12:50.900 actually would rank him i think he would rank him near great to to not tick off too many people but

00:12:56.140 that would tick off a lot of people isn't that funny the that's a conversation the ever evolving

00:13:01.600 legacy of ronald reagan i feel like the amnesty stuff his wife being pro-abortion he was a big

00:13:07.920 spender ever yeah it's you know it's funny because people get ranked by things that they consider

00:13:12.600 important today more so than what was important at the time so and those three immediate and then

00:13:17.760 during and immediate after the idea was he was hawkish and then we won the cold war basically

00:13:21.780 right after he left office and so it was natural to get credit for that so i mean defeats the

00:13:26.840 soviet union take if you take the incredible inflationary period that that he you know

00:13:32.380 basically came after jimmy carter got the economy rip roaring again it the 80s were an objectively

00:13:38.440 all-american but now it's a time where we have it was like the caldwell's thesis where he says

00:13:44.900 reagan just decided to fix the crisis of the 60s and 70s with permanent deficit spending yeah and

00:13:51.000 that wasn't really that bad in the 80s because we were starting from zero but he started a really

00:13:55.760 bad but it's just kept going since then so he's going to get blamed for the fact now we have

00:14:00.360 40 trillion dollars and he didn't borrow the vast majority of that but he established the

00:14:06.160 practice and i think people are going to blame him for that he also wanted uh what do you call

00:14:10.440 space uh the the space lasers yeah star wars no it's star wars that's what he wanted no i don't

00:14:15.920 think that mattered shall we shall we move on let's move on let's move on but that was a very

00:14:19.440 funny jack's favorite christian ai worship all righty so this is i do i do want to throw out

00:14:24.440 Do and throw out for everybody who's, you know, if everybody's watching, send in your suggestions or corrections to where you think that various presidents, including the presidents who are not included, should be on this list.

00:14:36.440 Yeah, are we watching our Rumble chats, guys?

00:14:38.680 We always do.

00:14:39.280 So this next thing we've wanted to talk to for a little while, in fact, there was an article from a year ago that highlighted that this was emerging as a phenomenon.

00:14:47.660 It was titled, it was in Christianity Today, and it was, The Current Number One Christian Artist Has No Soul.

00:14:53.080 and someone who was topping a a chart it was a guy on spotify solomon ray a mississippi made

00:15:00.540 soul singer with southern soul revival and he had uh a soulful christmas was his album and it had

00:15:07.140 jingle bell soul and soul to the world and he had over 300 000 monthly listeners and it turned out

00:15:12.940 that that guy was not a real person and it's one thing we know there's going to be a ton of ai

00:15:19.980 generated slop imagery there's slop videos slop music but this guy was specifically releasing

00:15:27.340 christmas christian soul music do we have the clip generated by an ai i don't know if we have

00:15:32.700 one for that specific guy but we did have the team get a bunch of them so here's an example

00:15:38.280 let's do clip number uh three let me tell you something

00:15:44.560 Every voice ain't the truth

00:15:49.560 The devil is a liar

00:15:56.040 Only steals, kills, destroys

00:16:00.480 Don't you believe a thing he says is

00:16:04.040 His worth ain't nothing but enough

00:16:07.200 He promises to the world

00:16:10.200 But your soul is what he keeps

00:16:13.620 So the devil is a liar.

00:16:17.380 It's so funny when he's doing the little riffs,

00:16:19.280 his mouth doesn't move at all.

00:16:21.260 Whoops.

00:16:22.020 I want to hear this with Forrest Frank.

00:16:24.000 He's calling out the whole...

00:16:25.600 Should we listen to at least one more AI one

00:16:27.400 to get some variety here?

00:16:28.700 I mean, we can.

00:16:29.600 I mean, I don't know.

00:16:30.740 There's one called Jesus and My Coffee,

00:16:32.600 and that's really filling me with a lot of dread.

00:16:35.840 So I think we got to play it.

00:16:37.020 Play clip number six.

00:16:39.580 Sun's up, I'm smiling slow.

00:16:41.600 Pour that brew, let the blessings flow

00:16:44.360 Steam rising, faith on ten

00:16:47.160 Here we go again

00:16:49.420 Take a sip, take a breath

00:16:52.100 Ain't no rush, no stress

00:16:54.860 Got the good book by my side

00:16:57.600 And that peace I can't hide

00:17:00.360 Me, Jesus, and my coffee

00:17:03.140 That's all I need to stop my day

00:17:05.840 No matter what's out there waiting

00:17:08.680 My worries fade away

00:17:11.140 He fills my cup, he wants my soul

00:17:14.000 And every sip makes me whole

00:17:17.100 Yeah, Jesus and my coffee

00:17:19.700 Everything's gonna be okay

00:17:22.600 That was squarely aimed at Andrew, who's the biggest coffee nut here.

00:17:28.200 Frighteningly, our listeners are saying,

00:17:30.340 Wow, I hate to say it, that was actually good.

00:17:33.120 MK says, I kind of liked it too.

00:17:35.800 LOL.

00:17:36.720 Thought crime, Jack.

00:17:37.500 Uh-oh.

00:17:39.140 Thought crime alert.

00:17:39.860 uh it sounds indistinguishable from all other worship music in that vein and i'm sorry guys

00:17:47.600 i'm so not a worship music all right all right forrest frank is calling out all of this and he's

00:17:53.620 forrest frank i will say his worship music is distinct so it's not one uh i've one album right

00:18:00.320 now for christian music on itunes and the number two top singles over elevation brain lake whoever

00:18:06.360 is ai and i hate to even bring attention to this but i want to just let you guys know this is out

00:18:12.420 there and i think it's important that we just pause a little bit and kind of ask the questions

00:18:16.480 of like is this something that we want at minimum ai does not have the holy spirit inside of it so i

00:18:22.240 think that's really weird to be opening up your spirit to something that has no spirit so what

00:18:28.080 are we doing about this are we are we rejecting this are we championing this i personally uh will

00:18:32.600 not be listening to this i already don't listen to secular music uh and i'm sure not going to be

00:18:37.160 listening to ai christian music oh he doesn't listen to secular music he used to make secular

00:18:44.120 music wow with i mean never listen i wonder what that sounds like that i'm just gonna say that

00:18:50.020 sounds like a lot of sour grapes right there he's like oh i got beat and people like stuff that's

00:18:54.200 low low uh low effort um uh that beat me at itunes and you shouldn't listen to that and

00:19:01.240 I don't think he's got any stuff out right now.

00:19:03.680 I don't think he has any.

00:19:04.460 It's almost like he's saying, like, you shouldn't listen to anyone but me or you're a bad person.

00:19:08.220 And I just like, OK, bro.

00:19:10.680 Man, this is a very cynical take.

00:19:13.440 This is an interesting take.

00:19:15.200 I'm really glad we finally got to hit this.

00:19:17.160 That's how he comes across to me.

00:19:18.300 Before we continue, I think we should actually evaluate how strong this is.

00:19:21.960 So they were grabbing, you know, because they were going for the Protestant music and, you know, more classical Christian hymns.

00:19:29.500 And then they went and they got Latin Gregorian chant music.

00:19:32.900 I want to hear what it is.

00:19:33.320 And they got two versions of it.

00:19:34.740 And we don't know which one is AI and which is real.

00:19:36.940 So we're going to listen.

00:19:38.140 Let me guess, because I listened to none of this.

00:19:40.360 Okay, I don't listen to any of this.

00:19:41.720 So let's go clip 30.

00:19:59.820 Okay.

00:20:03.220 We'll get to the second one.

00:20:07.780 All right, all right.

00:20:08.720 Cut that one.

00:20:09.440 Cut that one.

00:20:10.400 All right, and now this is 31, the other one we got.

00:20:14.120 Let's play that.

00:20:29.500 All right, which one?

00:20:40.500 I vote one, too.

00:20:41.380 You think one is AI?

00:20:42.160 Yeah, because I think the Latin is just too much for them to...

00:20:46.200 I'm going to say the second is AI.

00:20:48.160 It feels easy.

00:20:49.960 Something felt really slick about it to me,

00:20:52.580 and I think that's usually an AI sign.

00:20:54.480 All right, guys, reveal it to me.

00:20:57.620 Which one was actually AI?

00:20:59.500 uh yeah but i mean yeah i'll say the second i'll say the second all right what's the answer

00:21:05.380 i don't know let's see let's find out which one was ai let us know here

00:21:08.560 number two was ai yes we win you know i actually the first like note that guy saying i was like

00:21:18.320 that sound ai but then i don't know it felt auto-tuney to me and all all of the ai music

00:21:23.700 does sound a little auto-tune usually all right well what what does the chat think and what do

00:21:28.360 guys think is it well i will say though that um just on on that that uh you know that you know

00:21:35.460 like like we don't listen to you know um a gregorian chant like while we're like driving

00:21:40.980 around or something um but we will actually throw that that kind of stuff on when uh so like we do

00:21:46.660 a family rosary every week and you know so when we're saying the family rosary we do tend to

00:21:51.180 listen to uh gregorian chant and that kind of stuff or if we're like you know on the way to

00:21:55.840 church or something and it just kind of kind of puts you in that that worshipful mood i feel like

00:21:59.960 so i like it the follow-up here so as as forrest frank says it's something with no soul in fact

00:22:07.140 you could even argue like it's a machine you could say that the ais are developed by people

00:22:13.640 who are usually like very anti-christian in their outlook uh post-christian and some of them are

00:22:19.220 might even literally be kind of modern day satanists or something they want to deify humankind or

00:22:24.660 whatever. So to use one of their machines to generate worship music, I guess here's a question.

00:22:30.520 It's definitely one. Is it a valid act of religious piety to create AI generated worship

00:22:37.840 music? Like if you give it guidelines and then they generate the music, is that valid? Or does

00:22:42.940 the words of the song, the music, the recording of it, does that all need to come by human hands

00:22:49.220 as an act of worship as an act of sort of musical prayer to be valid or is this is it kind of like

00:22:55.040 playing an instrument and like it wouldn't be bad for you to play a piano or a violin even if it was

00:22:59.960 made by a non-believer if you were using it towards good ends could you say the same thing

00:23:04.320 for this music or is it is it bad as forest frank says bad don't touch it this is this is very don't

00:23:11.080 listen to it i don't know jack you got to take so i would say that yeah like obviously i think i'm

00:23:23.180 i'm certainly not gonna listen to any of that stuff uh either either human made or ai made

00:23:28.340 um just because i don't like it but but also that i do think that that you are probably losing

00:23:35.640 something that if you are putting something on and you are intending for it to be a prayerful

00:23:42.440 you know background to if your family's praying if you are using it for you know i don't know

00:23:47.720 like a like in a prayer service for example or something like that that if you're using ai

00:23:54.920 it's it's it's cutting it's cutting me through the point of musing mute using music to worship

00:24:02.920 God. I had a nun when I was younger who said that when you sing, you pray twice. When you're

00:24:08.700 singing, you're praying twice, because it's the effort of the singing and also the...

00:24:11.640 Wasn't that Augustine who said that?

00:24:13.800 I don't know. I heard the same thing in Catholic school.

00:24:15.780 Yeah, I think it's a quote from...

00:24:16.340 I just thought my nun said it.

00:24:17.600 Yeah, I know. I think it's a quote from St. Augustine.

00:24:21.800 And it's great. I've always liked that. And so if it's AI, I think that kind of disintermediates

00:24:28.800 the fact that it's like a prayer through song.

00:24:31.440 St. Augustine.

00:24:31.760 I think that's cheating.

00:24:32.920 I think with AI in general, there's healthy AI and there's unhealthy AI.

00:24:38.040 I think the healthy AI is when it's doing tasks or things that are monotonous or that will save people money and that allow people to do other jobs that are more intensive or better for society.

00:24:55.760 i think when you have when you have the computers or a really nefarious entity controlling things

00:25:04.920 where they can start to manipulate the things that you're not paying attention to just like

00:25:09.160 the media right so like the the whole argument with like the fake news and all that is that it

00:25:14.620 got it became so controlled and so one direction that people started slipping and not noticing

00:25:22.220 that they were lying to you over and over and over

00:25:24.200 and over and over until the lies got bigger and bigger

00:25:26.760 until people finally kicked a lot of it to the curb.

00:25:29.260 Yeah, they could subtly move us in a bad direction here.

00:25:31.740 In 2015, 2016, that's really when it started happening

00:25:34.220 was people were like, okay, basically in 15 years

00:25:37.620 since the launch of cable news, 24-hour news cycle,

00:25:41.680 the journalists destroyed media effectively in 15 years.

00:25:46.100 And now it's far weaker, far less listened to, far less read.

00:25:50.160 And I think the same goes with with A.I. is if we're not careful, you know, even, you know, computers essentially will start to manipulate us and people will figure it out and then discard it and start to discard it.

00:26:03.420 And so that's where you have to be careful is like, hey, like if you're not paying attention or you lean way too much into it and you're like, oh, yeah, I trust it.

00:26:11.500 That's that's way more complicated than my take. I'm on the I'm on the Forrest Frank take 100 percent.

00:26:18.640 I feel like if you're going to worship something and you're going to put your

00:26:20.920 whole spirit in it.

00:26:21.840 That is the force.

00:26:22.680 That's kind of the force Frank take.

00:26:24.160 Yeah.

00:26:24.380 It's like,

00:26:24.660 Hey,

00:26:25.380 they don't have the Holy Spirit.

00:26:26.720 They could insert really bad things.

00:26:29.420 Yeah.

00:26:29.700 Along the way.

00:26:30.360 Like if you're not paying attention to it and you're just listening to it,

00:26:32.960 you're not listening to what the words say,

00:26:34.440 or that's actually from someone that's well-intentioned intended.

00:26:38.060 Like,

00:26:38.360 then all of a sudden it can become something very evil.

00:26:40.760 But I also think it's just like,

00:26:41.820 it's kind of like,

00:26:42.680 you don't want to date a robot.

00:26:43.960 You don't want to worship to a song that didn't have the Holy Spirit.

00:26:47.500 somebody that didn't write it who had the holy spirit in it right so it i just think it's like

00:26:52.540 the human touch here but even like the gregorian image bearers of god yeah but the ai is not the

00:26:58.000 gregorian part though is like i mean there's certain to a certain extent that computers

00:27:01.560 already do handle the music part maybe not the writing part maybe not the words part right but

00:27:07.200 like so i think there's elements of music but like writing a melody writing the lyrics like

00:27:13.220 Being inspired by God, I'm telling you, there is something, there is the divine spark that when it happens, it happens, and you need that.

00:27:23.620 But there's nothing different.

00:27:25.500 So one of the things is like, I think people are getting sick of, you can tell AI generated graphics and stuff like that, right?

00:27:33.460 But there's an element to that that's the exact same, right?

00:27:35.840 which is like new ideas are never going to basically spring forth

00:27:40.720 in the same kind of way, like in a very human way,

00:27:43.960 if AI takes over all graphic design.

00:27:46.500 You think about the Bible. I agree.

00:27:48.140 You think about the Bible. There's like songs in the Bible.

00:27:51.160 What do you think the Psalms are? They're all songs, right?

00:27:53.040 But they're poems now for us. We don't know their melodies.

00:27:55.200 But in the scriptures, they talk about the angels singing in heaven

00:27:58.960 and all of these things.

00:27:59.760 I mean, music and melody are so knit into the human experience

00:28:04.480 into the way we've been designed by our creator,

00:28:07.180 that to take that out of the realm of human creation,

00:28:10.420 I don't like it.

00:28:11.540 Now, you could say we created the AI,

00:28:14.120 which created the music, therefore,

00:28:15.700 it's almost like, I just don't think it, it doesn't, no.

00:28:19.740 But apparently a lot of people do,

00:28:20.940 because to Forrest Frank's point,

00:28:22.640 it's like number one and number two on the charts,

00:28:25.480 which is very strange.

00:28:26.960 It's getting me thinking on an interesting topic,

00:28:29.460 which is, so if we should consume this

00:28:32.540 like as an act of worship created by you know another believer uh it's been pointed out a lot

00:28:38.240 of famous christmas songs are by jewish people and most of those are the secular ones so rudolph

00:28:42.060 the red-nosed reindeer rocking around the christmas tree do you hear what i hear was composed i believe

00:28:47.040 at least the musical part was composed by a jewish woman and so old school is is that a valid

00:28:53.780 i suppose do you hear what i hear is not necessarily an orthodox christian song anyway

00:28:57.760 it's like kind of vague yeah it's just like vague heralding it has it has a king who's happy that

00:29:03.160 jesus is born and in reality we know the king was very unhappy about jesus being that's a good point

00:29:07.680 yeah interesting but it gets me thinking about that like would there would that cause similar

00:29:13.980 issues if we knew that a song was by a non-believer well honestly like it's funny because i used to

00:29:18.820 live in los angeles and i knew a lot of singer songwriters and they would they would write

00:29:23.400 country music even though they were total city kids that hated country values and traditional

00:29:28.480 values and it must have happened there must be people who there must be popular christian music

00:29:32.260 out there that was maybe just written by a producer to keep someone's career by christians

00:29:36.900 that ended up falling away or also that sin and they were just writing what they thought people

00:29:41.380 were gonna so so here's the other side of that what if but god could have been working on their

00:29:47.300 hearts to open them up to write the song so yeah a lot of different circumstances could be true so

00:29:52.900 what if god uses ai and creates better than human music dang it that's a really good question what

00:29:59.240 if we so what if all of a sudden for frank is totally wrong for if god is going to use it for

00:30:05.300 his glory then why should i care yeah dang it here's here's a thought crime aren't we just ai to

00:30:10.760 god aren't all humans just ai you don't know how ai you are some sort of level right like you could

00:30:17.420 But you could make that analogy.

00:30:19.980 But we are living beings with an eternal soul.

00:30:22.360 We are intelligence created by a higher intelligence.

00:30:24.420 Yeah, I get it.

00:30:25.080 I get what you're saying.

00:30:26.720 But to the point is like...

00:30:27.800 That's less compelling to me, but I get what you're saying.

00:30:30.540 And you're right, but it's also a false analogy.

00:30:35.180 But yours is, if God can use AI worship music to bring more souls into heaven,

00:30:40.720 then darn it, that challenges me.

00:30:44.060 That legit challenges me.

00:30:44.920 I've heard this from a lot of evangelicals,

00:30:48.040 specifically American Baptists,

00:30:50.460 and then also Mormons say this a lot,

00:30:52.940 is that if it wasn't for the advances

00:30:55.880 in American society particularly...

00:30:59.280 I mean, like, technological advances?

00:31:00.540 Technological advances, like so many things,

00:31:03.160 that a lot of the gospel wouldn't be spread

00:31:06.780 as quickly as it has been.

00:31:09.640 Yeah, but again, that's human messengers

00:31:11.680 using radio waves and the TV.

00:31:13.260 It's not just human messengers, though.

00:31:14.520 But yeah, but it's like the invention of the internet.

00:31:17.320 Like there's so much bad, but there's also so much good.

00:31:20.920 Like satellite TV.

00:31:22.840 Like there's so much bad, but so much good, right?

00:31:26.380 Like there's clearly a ton of bad, but there's also like you wouldn't be able...

00:31:29.720 There's porn, but there's also Sunday morning sermons.

00:31:33.420 There's Sunday morning sermons, yeah.

00:31:35.400 So it's like AI kind of falls in the same category, which is like there's going to be bad.

00:31:39.260 Yeah, but we're talking specifically about people deploying AI for a religious purpose.

00:31:41.940 Would it be okay to use AI to translate the Bible?

00:31:44.520 Would it be okay to use AI to translate the Bible?

00:31:47.520 That's what I'm saying.

00:31:48.160 So AI is going to make it so much...

00:31:50.540 Assuming you had humans checking the veracity and accuracy.

00:31:54.260 But again, you can make the argument AI is going to be much better at that today

00:31:58.920 than even in the 1800s people translating the Bible.

00:32:01.880 Yeah, but some of the translation work is kind of more of an art than a science, right?

00:32:06.580 It's like you're trying to best define a word that doesn't have an actual counterpart in English,

00:32:13.720 for example out of the greek or the the hebrew or but that goes back to like sermons so for example

00:32:20.140 you know like josh howerton who's become very popular in this last year in particular on on

00:32:25.760 tiktok and others like a lot of people really like him a lot and the fact that that can get

00:32:31.220 reproduced and translated into you know a hundred different languages to me because it's originating

00:32:37.440 from a human but that's all ai like a human being would never undertake that work the hardest thing

00:32:42.280 the best question that you've asked is if god is going to use ai to bring glory that's what i'm

00:32:47.980 saying so like like so that's tricky so that we're talking about a fundamental like starting point

00:32:52.200 the creation of a melody the creation of a lyric it well there could be there could be a completely

00:32:58.440 ai josh howerton there could be a completely ai catholic josh howerton that's different though

00:33:03.060 no but that's the start of a melody that's a start of a that's a creation from nothing there

00:33:07.100 will be within the next five years probably entire human beings that people think are real that are

00:33:13.140 not real at all there's a lot of people who are technically alive right now who aren't really

00:33:16.900 human beings and sorry that's a bad joke people are robots but people they all they consume is

00:33:22.820 ai slot they use ai to generate their thoughts so all of you're human but they are they're they're

00:33:30.620 you know they're like act more and more being consumed and controlled i'll give you an example

00:33:37.000 of this where we can tie this back to last week because we were talking about this on on human

00:33:41.600 events where you know it's like so much of the stuff you see on the algorithms are performative

00:33:47.820 so some like the lindsey clancy stuff was like very performative but it it it also does well

00:33:54.540 on tiktok so the the algorithm just knows to feed it because the algorithm can't see oh this is

00:34:00.280 abhorrent because it's child abuse or or and then the response to it as well the algorithm just

00:34:05.740 sees, oh, people like this. So I should favor this more. So I should generate more of this.

00:34:09.900 And then the creator sees it and says, oh, this is getting more views. So I'm going to make more

00:34:14.480 of these videos. So at some point we have to ask who's actually in control, right? Is the algorithm

00:34:19.880 in control or is the person actively deciding this is what I want to talk about today. And this is

00:34:26.080 what I want to do. I'm just thinking of edge cases that could exist on this AI worship music

00:34:31.180 concept but like let's say you have an artist who's who's deceased now and it could be a great

00:34:37.180 christian artist or someone who straddles the line like we could say johnny cash there let's say

00:34:41.440 there is a christian song you really like and you want to use ai to make a johnny cash singing

00:34:45.820 version of it is that kosher let's say it's already a pre-existing one but that performance

00:34:51.960 is ai i kind of i kind of um i was it's funny because um uh producer fives will will back me

00:34:58.180 up on this i so i've been using 11 reader i like audiobooks a lot and and 11 reader is like the

00:35:04.900 11 labs version of audiobooks and uh no i'm not doing a book pitch but i could and uh man they

00:35:12.400 just released burt reynolds in on 11 reader so you can have burt reynolds read any book to you

00:35:18.200 and it is so good it is literally so good it sounds like it's burt reynolds he could do a

00:35:25.020 different inflections. So it's impressive tech. He could read the Bible to you.

00:35:28.080 No, but none of this bothers me nearly as much as worship. I think the best edge case of any AI

00:35:36.080 creation, anything, is Christian worship. It's worship music because it's literally supposed

00:35:42.100 to unite your soul in worship with the creator. I mean, so I don't know, man. It is uncomfortable

00:35:50.280 to me and i'm gonna now be wrestling with tyler's question for probably a really long time because i

00:35:56.500 don't want to admit that it could help people worship the lord but if it does here's here's

00:36:02.380 the difference here's the difference because because and we should be careful about whether

00:36:06.640 or not these things are actually bringing people to the lord or some facsimile of the lord that

00:36:11.260 they think is the lord right we need to be careful about that because what's different ultimately and

00:36:16.240 think what leads to the uncomfortability is that it's it's the act of creation is not tied in with

00:36:23.680 the spirit itself the act of creation it okay they threw the book up yeah it's it's unhuman right it's

00:36:29.840 literally unhuman of course the uh second edition on humans is now a socialist revolution and but

00:36:35.680 you know we're talking about unhumans in a different sense here but this is giving over

00:36:40.000 that which is meant to be our spiritual core to an unhuman, by definition, algorithm, machine learning, LLM,

00:36:49.640 whatever you want to call it, that we know is designed by some nerds in Silicon Valley.

00:36:53.420 And so the act of creating something that is actually worshipful should be done by a human.

00:36:59.540 It's an extremely human act that's meant to tie us to the divine, not tie us to some creation.

00:37:04.660 That's my instinct, too, and I kind of agree with Forrest Frank on that.

00:37:10.320 Like, if you are not a temple of the Holy Spirit,

00:37:13.360 then can you truly create something that will lead others to the true spirit,

00:37:18.760 the true God that made you?

00:37:21.100 I don't know.

00:37:21.780 That's an open question, but Tyler's got my head spinning legitimately.

00:37:26.060 M.K. Bren says, are we supposed to judge things by it if they bear fruit?

00:37:29.920 So if an AI song produces a positive outcome, that would...

00:37:35.900 We'll know.

00:37:37.240 We'll know.

00:37:38.000 Yeah, Jesse says, I like Andrew's perspective that it needs a human touch.

00:37:41.460 AI is of Satan.

00:37:42.720 I use it all day.

00:37:43.700 It is Satan.

00:37:45.800 It's not.

00:37:46.560 It's a tool.

00:37:47.180 I don't think it's going to be...

00:37:49.160 It could be used by Satan.

00:37:49.420 I don't think it's going to be good.

00:37:50.360 But again, I was kind of going down to this point.

00:37:52.740 There's going to be entire humans that we think are real that aren't real.

00:37:59.100 and you're not even going to know that it's AI.

00:38:01.240 I totally agree with that because we have cartoon characters

00:38:03.540 that are totally trademarked, so now

00:38:05.580 we're just in the era where we can make human

00:38:07.300 realistic actors in a movie

00:38:09.140 that'll be like this character.

00:38:11.480 People aren't even going to know. That's what I'm saying.

00:38:13.100 You're not even going to have an

00:38:15.480 idea that

00:38:16.600 the music is AI because you're

00:38:19.480 going to think that the person singing the

00:38:21.540 song who is AI was a real person.

00:38:24.220 We're going to have AI pastors?

00:38:26.120 No, and this is going back.

00:38:27.140 we talk generate a sermon commit no heresies i hate at some point at some point they could

00:38:32.060 take your persona put it on tv to give commentary on tv and you never leave your you know what's

00:38:41.100 interesting is like you think of uh people like elon musk when they're talking about ai and i saw

00:38:45.700 this quote from him where he was basically like the he gets asked a question do you are you looking

00:38:50.420 forward to it are you scared about it and he said both he goes some days i'm absolutely terrified

00:38:54.840 about the future of AI, and some days I'm

00:38:56.980 really excited about it. He's like, just catch

00:38:59.020 me on a day. Depends what new thing I've learned.

00:39:00.880 There's so much potential for good uses

00:39:03.100 of it, but it does, what

00:39:04.900 creeps me out the most is the capacity

00:39:06.860 for people. A lot of people

00:39:08.880 are already prone to just outsourcing

00:39:10.800 their thinking to something else.

00:39:13.140 Americans are going to be terrible about this. We outsource

00:39:14.980 our jobs. This is what I'm getting at. It's such an addictive

00:39:17.000 thing that you'll have people whose

00:39:18.860 entire life is literally just the

00:39:20.780 zoomer stare, and when you add that

00:39:22.960 to dimensions of friendship,

00:39:24.840 romantic relationships religion that's really scary to think about we we are cooked when it

00:39:31.740 comes to fertility because people are just going to completely lose the ability to enter

00:39:35.340 interact and i'm just wondering what imagine how many boomers in the meta lawsuit

00:39:40.940 yeah wasn't this boomers getting so i mean i wonder there's probably clips that have already

00:39:46.320 gone viral on facebook but jack yeah you're right but jack's this is a good point yeah

00:39:50.380 And so in their lawsuit, and I don't have the exact quotes, but wasn't this a big part

00:39:56.320 of the settlement and they just did the 16 billion and some people say it's not enough,

00:40:00.560 some people say just do more and for sure, right, regarding kids.

00:40:03.900 But I believe that in part of their settlement, one of the things that they were saying was,

00:40:08.620 I'm totally paraphrasing and if I get this wrong, you know, I'm happily open to correction.

00:40:14.340 But they were saying that like, we don't really control the algorithm, that the algorithm

00:40:18.720 them is just based on sort of what users input and what they you know how they interact on the

00:40:27.220 platforms and so and Blake you've talked about this a lot before about algorithmic content that

00:40:33.060 you know that they've set it up and it's become so automated and so AI switched in terms of like

00:40:40.520 this equals that and everything all equals the rest of it that there's no one human who's actually

00:40:45.500 sitting there picking and choosing what goes up and what comes down and so one of the issues with

00:40:50.240 that obviously is that um you know people are looking for more controls to be put on there

00:40:56.320 specifically for kids but ultimately the biggest point of it is that like they're not even capable

00:41:01.960 of answering the question of what goes viral and what doesn't

00:41:06.280 well i definitely approve of kids i mean i'm not gonna let my kids have a smartphone

00:41:12.780 until they're like 16.

00:41:15.240 Anyways.

00:41:16.000 I told my kids.

00:41:17.380 What's that?

00:41:17.820 I told them they can have one

00:41:18.780 when they can buy one themselves.

00:41:21.800 Well, you could buy a used one pretty cheap.

00:41:24.140 Including the service plan.

00:41:25.760 You could buy a used one pretty cheap.

00:41:27.740 MK Bren says the best thing

00:41:29.600 that they've seen AI do to this point

00:41:31.860 is create the

00:41:33.740 Russ Spacey's romance novels

00:41:36.680 that have me on the cover.

00:41:38.500 Featuring Blake.

00:41:39.420 Me and the China Man hat, yeah.

00:41:40.680 forbidden desire that's awesome i love that defies all i mean if they if they say so hey

00:41:48.840 we have not talked about data center guy we could do we want to do data centers or do we

00:41:53.720 want to do lake america we got about 15 minutes i think data centers is the more it's more

00:41:58.840 substantive pressing issue it's definitely more substantive it's funny about this is we're talking

00:42:03.020 about ai everyone's addicted to ai everyone's using it all of the time even the people who

00:42:07.380 say they hate ai are like constantly clicking on it and using it and yet people also fanatically

00:42:12.700 hate the centers of data that are basically used to drive the ai machine they don't want to build

00:42:19.000 them they don't like the pro data center side they use they use ai to create the memes that

00:42:24.820 they use to campaign against data centers and i want to know when these clips of like trump on

00:42:31.200 data centers pretty recently he's been saying like he's a pretty pretty big pro guy let's play

00:42:36.040 some of these sat nine because you have to convince your community how great these things

00:42:42.040 you can't fight it you have to go with it and you're going to have all that protection and

00:42:46.420 we're giving you automatic protection but you're going to make a tremendous amount of money you're

00:42:50.580 going to reduce taxes and you're going to have something that if you don't have it everybody

00:42:54.920 else wants it well that's and then jd vance sat 11 first of all they're big facilities you create

00:43:05.280 a lot of construction jobs and this next generation of the technological revolution you need those

00:43:10.540 data centers to make that run those data centers are like the gasoline of the of the technology

00:43:15.800 revolution that we're going to see over the next 75 years and I don't know about you all but I want

00:43:19.840 America to win that technology revolution I don't want China or some other country to win it and so

00:43:24.360 that's why we got to have these things now here's the downside if those centers are built and the

00:43:29.980 local governments aren't ensuring that there's enough power for those data centers then it's

00:43:34.600 going to increase electricity costs for everybody else. And so what we think the data centers have

00:43:40.160 got to do is they've got to work with the local governments, with the state governments, and in

00:43:45.120 the federal government, we are trying to do everything that we can so that if you build a

00:43:48.880 data center, for example, you can just build a power plant right next door. What I think we

00:43:53.840 ought to be working towards is you build those data centers and electricity costs come down for

00:43:59.560 American citizens instead of going up for American citizens. The data centers can afford it. We got

00:44:04.820 to make sure that they're good neighbors so that when they come in and build these great buildings,

00:44:09.660 the people in their neighborhood, the people in their community benefit too. And that's through

00:44:13.800 lower power. That's the best way they can be good neighbors. Thank you. Yeah. And I mean,

00:44:20.840 what's amazing about this is for those who haven't followed, but you probably have,

00:44:24.100 is that data centers are about as popular as cancer.

00:44:29.120 Gallup has found about 70% of Americans

00:44:34.240 oppose constructing AI data centers in their community,

00:44:37.500 and it's pretty broad-based.

00:44:39.700 For example, there was another one,

00:44:41.300 Washington Post has this.

00:44:42.700 This was more popular overall,

00:44:44.280 that 61% of Americans oppose a data center in their community,

00:44:48.420 including 47% of Republicans.

00:44:51.180 It appears that really the only group that is pro data center at all is fanatical Trump supporters, like hardcore MAGA, who basically just say, I like what President Trump likes.

00:45:01.520 They're pro.

00:45:02.140 Everyone else is anti.

00:45:03.740 So it's interesting.

00:45:04.420 I know Jack had Vivek on his show, but like Vivek put out this thing on August 6th, basically saying, hey, I've gone across.

00:45:12.560 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:45:13.400 You mean like years ago?

00:45:15.080 Oh, I thought maybe I maybe I misunderstood.

00:45:17.340 Sorry.

00:45:17.680 I was talking to Foz.

00:45:19.180 Maybe it was something you're thinking about doing.

00:45:20.920 And Vivek, either way, put out a pledge to Ohioans first, and it got a bunch of news because he basically said data centers should bring down the property taxes for everybody.

00:45:33.260 That's one idea.

00:45:34.280 People are throwing these out there.

00:45:35.760 But what's funny to me is it seems like any reason – what's interesting to me is every justification people offer for opposing data centers, you can get rid of them and it doesn't matter.

00:45:46.760 People have just decided they really hate them.

00:45:48.340 Yeah, which is crazy if you look at the polling, by the way.

00:45:50.640 amazon warehouses are like wildly popular which blew me away i think it's because it's such a

00:45:58.460 thing people like order a lot of stuff on amazon and they like getting it faster whereas data

00:46:02.900 center is women but yeah i'll tell you people would lose their minds if they realized that

00:46:10.700 like data centers not happening and this is the this is the the problem that i have between the

00:46:17.460 too i think data centers need to be implemented correctly just like anything else that's

00:46:21.820 infrastructure like you can't have like insane again insane bridges and roads that are poorly

00:46:29.760 maintained or that are ever like people lose their minds if like their entire community like

00:46:35.100 what they did in boston was like they took out a bunch of these major freeways replacing with parks

00:46:39.740 and it looks better and it's more livable and all this it's the same thing with data centers

00:46:43.600 it's infrastructure right the tunnels but people lose their minds like literally lose their minds

00:46:47.440 if they start realizing like oh well i guess if we don't put them in our community they have to go

00:46:52.120 in super lib communities right like and the democrats would be happy to control your data

00:46:56.380 centers and control all the data coming flowing in and out and then ultimately you know working

00:47:01.140 together with those big corporations to invade your privacy or even the worst thing china gets

00:47:06.560 them all that china gets them all right i have a clip on this and it's and it's like so it's like

00:47:11.240 Okay, yeah, damned if you do, and you put them in, and they're ugly, and they take up your community and your water and whatever, damned if you don't, China now has all your data.

00:47:24.420 So check out, this is Senator Kyrsten Sinema defending data centers on Fox News.

00:47:29.900 This clip just dropped, SOT32.

00:47:32.400 Structure Coalition, Kyrsten Sinema.

00:47:35.160 Kyrsten, thanks for being with us here today.

00:47:37.460 So how do you take that?

00:47:39.880 you hear 70-30 proposition, 70 opposed to data centers. That's real. That's a real concern out

00:47:47.700 there from Americans. It sure is, Will. And it just shows that China has done an excellent job

00:47:55.240 at spreading misinformation across the country around data centers. They've really done a good

00:48:01.380 job in convincing folks that their electricity and energy costs are going to go up, which isn't true.

00:48:07.720 They're convincing people that they use and waste a lot of water.

00:48:11.260 Not true.

00:48:11.920 They actually use less water than restaurants, right?

00:48:15.020 And they're convincing folks that they don't need or benefit AI in their lives.

00:48:20.340 And the truth is, Will, that AI, we all rely on every single day, and it's making a huge difference in our daily lives.

00:48:27.940 Okay.

00:48:28.780 I just love that they were like, guys, we're polling horribly on the data center question.

00:48:32.600 let's go get unpopular ex-senator kristin cinema to recite extremely corporate talking points on

00:48:39.320 fox she's basically to fix this she's basically a lobbyist for the yeah yeah for the data centers

00:48:45.380 now that's her you could tell by the way she was pitching it yeah it's terrible she was reading

00:48:49.200 or something and it's and it's terrible because she's she's a left-wing data center person right

00:48:56.560 So it's like, I mean, look, I mean, she's best she's best buddies with like, again, the Gallego, Kate Gallego and Phoenix and with the Tucson mayor.

00:49:08.480 Right. And so like they're putting in a ton of these in states like Arizona because they have space and they have land like a lot in the West.

00:49:15.460 There's a lot of places to put data centers. And again, the libs control a lot of these cities.

00:49:22.520 so you look at it like this includes las vegas this includes the salt lake city this includes

00:49:28.580 so i mean you have a map i mean so even you have red states or red earth states right

00:49:33.680 and in boise in salt lake and las vegas and phoenix and tucson where a lot of these data

00:49:41.860 centers are being pitched it's like okay the democrats are gonna like if you don't if republicans

00:49:48.720 don't want to involve themselves and be in the middle of this negotiation these con this these

00:49:53.980 conversations libs like progressive very progressive libs are also going to control all

00:49:59.220 of that you know how much money is going to flow through these data centers it's going to be it's

00:50:03.080 the new farming it's basically like our centuries version of the the questions when when and and we

00:50:09.820 don't want to get behind the eight ball like we did with with the democrat party on farms and

00:50:14.520 our farmers because now we have the republicans are like totally figured it out everything else

00:50:19.720 but that's not how it was 50 years ago 60 years ago 60 years ago the left controlled all of the

00:50:25.320 farmland across america and that's why the maps look so different we do not want to start from a

00:50:30.700 starting point in my opinion where conservatives are not at the table negotiating with the modern

00:50:38.640 version of farmland yeah i just peddle says if the data centers make their own power plants and

00:50:43.760 They sell additional electricity for half of what the local electric company charges.

00:50:47.600 Maybe people would consider it.

00:50:48.660 That is, in fact, what has been happening, that President Trump made it so to get these up faster if the companies build their own power plants, which is not that efficient overall.

00:50:57.720 It would be better if we were just building big overall power plants.

00:51:00.920 But they are building small power plants to power these, and they are offloading.

00:51:04.400 I can't imagine they're very pretty looking.

00:51:06.880 Whatever.

00:51:07.560 I mean, you can make them more attractive, but, I mean, is it more attractive?

00:51:10.380 Is it less attractive than a Home Depot?

00:51:12.740 Because we build those.

00:51:13.460 before this um or an industrial park yeah my uh i so i threw in a while ago i think back in like

00:51:19.140 april i i rolled out this idea similar to what tyler was saying is that you know there already

00:51:23.860 being a negotiation so obviously you need to provide something to the community whether it's

00:51:28.140 whether it's jobs whether it's reducing electric costs but also i said why not provide something

00:51:33.240 positive and tangible and so other people have said they could you know they could fix up these

00:51:38.400 downtowns for people and they could fix up churches and they could sponsor the um sponsor

00:51:44.640 the town fireworks or help to you know rebuild baseball stadiums and football fields and things

00:51:50.400 like that friday night lights you know in texas or or and and this was my big thing i said restore

00:51:57.200 the malls go and bring back uh some kind of third place where people can go where people can congregate

00:52:06.640 you know, buy up the old malls and say, you know what?

00:52:09.040 We're going to fix these up.

00:52:10.140 We're going to keep them safe.

00:52:11.160 We're going to make it public space where people can go.

00:52:13.660 You can get coffee.

00:52:14.740 You can have a cafe.

00:52:15.900 You can have walking tracks.

00:52:17.820 You can have free, like a little free library there.

00:52:20.320 And it's just a place that people can go.

00:52:23.320 So that was my, that was my idea.

00:52:25.160 Bring back the malls.

00:52:26.600 So this is interesting though, what she said.

00:52:29.040 I agree with that, by the way.

00:52:30.220 I actually think you could take over dilapidated malls and just put a data center there.

00:52:34.480 That's another option.

00:52:35.380 uh well that's kind of what i was saying and then like just open up the extra space for

00:52:39.640 you know yeah sure yeah so the ridiculousness of like but like for example in arizona

00:52:45.400 like we have so much federal land that is like trash desert land like truly it's like there are

00:52:52.100 parts there's beautiful desert right like there's beautiful desert but in the west there's a lot of

00:52:56.160 ugly desert there's a lot of unusable desert um that has some wildlife but it's fairly small like

00:53:03.960 And this stretches from California all the way to Texas, right?

00:53:07.820 And there's a lot of land.

00:53:10.200 And in the greater scheme of things,

00:53:13.600 some of these power plant ideas, right?

00:53:15.420 Some people have said, no nuclear.

00:53:17.520 We don't want to build a nuclear power plant in the desert

00:53:19.640 because there's some, we don't want to remove the snakes.

00:53:25.680 Yeah, or whatever, right?

00:53:26.940 And it's like, and there's plenty of land in the West.

00:53:31.440 like what is it like 90 percent of the state of nevada is under federal control right now

00:53:36.240 and it's like and there's so much ugly and no like most of it's not even if you build it there

00:53:40.660 you're not building it in like a national park you could just build it no offense to our nevadans

00:53:45.520 but there's some really ugly desert in nevada like like some of the ugliest the problem is of

00:53:50.380 course is they don't they don't usually Arizona Arizona has some beautiful desert and there's

00:53:54.520 some ugly desert but Arizona has way more beautiful desert than the rest of these days

00:53:57.920 the dynamic here of course is a reason they don't build in those places is they want to be able to

00:54:02.440 build them quickly and you can build and have them connected to stuff with like power and that is most

00:54:07.200 accessible on the fringes of big cities that's why they want the most data centers are in so the bay

00:54:14.360 area and they're in loudon county so they're at the most economically developed my biggest my

00:54:18.680 biggest concern is that uh china is going to be building data centers 100 but here's the i mean

00:54:27.020 Elon Musk thinks he's going to be able to build data centers in space

00:54:29.820 and get free energy from the sun and free cooling

00:54:31.980 from just the fact that space is cool.

00:54:34.720 It's actually not.

00:54:36.180 Did you know that?

00:54:36.740 Well, it's hot or cool.

00:54:37.880 Well, no, the thing about space is, yeah, it's cold,

00:54:40.680 but how do you offload any heat?

00:54:42.480 Where's it going to go?

00:54:43.100 It doesn't touch anything.

00:54:44.940 Well, I'm sure they have fans powered by the energy from the sun as well.

00:54:49.200 Fans?

00:54:49.880 What are you blowing?

00:54:51.020 You're blowing air?

00:54:52.200 No, this is a fascinating question.

00:54:54.540 if we we need advanced technology to keep the guys in the international space station

00:54:58.860 from cooking to death because there's nowhere for the heat to go sure sure interesting okay

00:55:03.820 but i'm sure that they've thought through these problems much smarter people than me but here's

00:55:07.360 my concern is that china is going to be doing this and this is what china's doing we don't

00:55:12.540 have to play all this but this is the world humanoid robot games and it's like a big deal

00:55:17.520 in china so while they're cooking kids brains with lindsey clancy tiktok algorithms in this

00:55:22.160 country they're celebrating robots okay uh b-roll 15 throw this up

00:55:28.280 look at this it's like a huge deal i just think this is awesome like china chinese techno

00:55:37.560 futurism is probably the most appealing thing about china to be honest they're like into it

00:55:41.940 look at this i hate it i mean it's ominous because you just think of those like ultra

00:55:48.500 humanoid robots and then that's going to be

00:55:50.460 the warfare of the future is like one of these

00:55:52.580 horrifying humanoid

00:55:54.600 robots. I'm very

00:55:56.600 anti-robot.

00:55:58.300 I'm very anti-robot.

00:55:59.780 I bet you don't even want to date robots.

00:56:01.320 Didn't some robot beat

00:56:03.540 Usain Bolt's

00:56:05.780 record in the 100 meter?

00:56:07.760 I have to imagine, but I bet a Ferrari has also

00:56:10.080 beaten Usain Bolt's record.

00:56:11.420 China is coming hard.

00:56:14.800 Yeah, a robot

00:56:15.480 died trying to lift weights.

00:56:18.220 This is funny, so I just want to play it.

00:56:19.760 16.

00:56:23.760 Are they showing it?

00:56:25.140 There we go.

00:56:25.760 This is a robot trying to lift

00:56:27.500 ones of pounds off the ground.

00:56:31.220 I mean, but to be fair,

00:56:32.920 I'm sure there's certain robotic shops

00:56:34.840 that could do this way better.

00:56:36.360 Whoever this designer is.

00:56:38.580 Well, I'm not sure.

00:56:39.360 Because the thing about it is that it's a bipedal robot.

00:56:41.380 That it is a human-moving robot.

00:56:43.360 And that is not...

00:56:44.840 It's not easy.

00:56:46.120 they're better at it than we are usually

00:56:48.860 it tried to look

00:56:50.900 no and then it died

00:56:52.180 oh no

00:56:52.940 the thing that freaks me out about

00:56:56.680 oh gosh the thing that freaks me out

00:56:58.760 the most about humanoid robots

00:57:00.240 is the

00:57:01.720 is not just the AI

00:57:04.460 whatever because some people are like

00:57:06.780 okay what are you hiding like this is the left

00:57:08.660 the left constantly said

00:57:10.400 this stuff to us on campus

00:57:11.740 well if you have nothing to hide then like

00:57:14.580 why do you care if a computer was watching you or whatever right like you know or the nsa i think

00:57:20.040 it's more creepy that like a human could be inside that robot at any time like basically take over

00:57:27.120 that robot at any time and now like they're in your life like they're in the middle of your

00:57:31.080 stuff and you wouldn't know for however extended what is it elon musk doing with that what's the

00:57:35.680 one he called optimus or yeah where it's just gonna like fold your laundry and do your dishes

00:57:40.760 for you and mow the lawn.

00:57:43.200 Would you guys buy an Optimus if it was

00:57:44.620 like $25,000?

00:57:47.740 Without question.

00:57:50.100 If it's doing my

00:57:50.800 laundry. It's the first thing I would buy.

00:57:52.520 But I hate the idea of like someone

00:57:54.780 hacking into one of those things.

00:57:56.440 What I was going to say, how do you know?

00:57:57.840 And like standing over your children.

00:58:00.160 Or when you and your wife are being intimate.

00:58:02.300 Or whatever, right?

00:58:03.380 You're just like taking a shower.

00:58:05.840 I mean, you realize

00:58:07.180 now it's really going to be cursed.

00:58:09.180 They're going to sell a model that can help with both.

00:58:13.220 No, that will happen.

00:58:14.580 But I'm more concerned about a human hijacking.

00:58:17.880 Like, think about it.

00:58:18.440 He might be the worst.

00:58:19.360 He will.

00:58:21.000 They're going to have a Gooner bot that does the laundry.

00:58:23.820 That is the future, and it's cursed.

00:58:26.080 And you could suddenly ask it to make worship music.

00:58:29.580 We passed our out time.

00:58:33.320 Yeah, this is a real downer.

00:58:34.820 By the way, in case you guys were wondering,

00:58:36.640 President Trump renamed Lake Ontario

00:58:39.400 Lake America

00:58:40.520 and now he's toying with the idea of

00:58:43.360 renaming the Atlantic

00:58:44.500 the American Ocean

00:58:48.200 he just said we might need to rename it overall

00:58:50.100 so it might be

00:58:51.520 American Ocean

00:58:52.820 I like the idea of calling it the gender ocean

00:58:55.180 so then a flight over it is a transgender flight

00:58:57.840 wow

00:58:59.580 Jack

00:59:01.960 what do you think about

00:59:03.360 we gotta wrap up here

00:59:04.840 But what do you think about this whole renaming Lake Ontario?

00:59:08.280 So my take on it was that, you know, it actually does highlight the northern border, because while we think about the Great Lakes, it's just sort of this, you know, feature of America.

00:59:18.400 It is actually part of our northern border.

00:59:20.880 And it is something that requires a little bit of focus.

00:59:23.740 And, hey, if this if this lets us focus on our northern border, then so be it.

00:59:27.400 I'm for it.

00:59:28.160 It was really critical.

00:59:29.400 Right. In the Revolutionary War, that particular one.

00:59:31.960 And then he's doing it as an up yours to Canada

00:59:36.800 because we're, you know, tariffing them and all this kind of stuff.

00:59:40.720 And so it was kind of, I think, a one-two.

00:59:42.700 That's where it's coming from.

00:59:44.800 But I don't know.

00:59:46.840 It doesn't, to me, I'm okay with it,

00:59:49.700 but I feel like some press is just going to come in

00:59:51.600 and like they're just, some dem is going to come in

00:59:53.560 and just change it back.

00:59:55.660 So it used to be the word homes, H-O-M-E-S,

00:59:59.120 was how you could remember all the Great Lakes, get it?

01:00:01.240 but now it's hames so now it's confusing hames it's not hames you know what that's an anagram

01:00:07.080 for shame very good shame now it's shame yeah that's how you remember the great lakes now

01:00:15.780 shame there you go maybe not ideal we do we do important work here on thought crowd we do

01:00:20.440 important work oh man what's funny is we could have named it like we could have kept the acronym

01:00:25.280 and just renamed it just to peak them we could kind of call it like lake onondaga which is one

01:00:28.760 of the iroquois tribes but part of it is ontario actually is an iroquois word it is it's not like

01:00:34.380 named after canada if anything canada is named after the lake well shoot uh we are at our heart

01:00:40.260 out so jack why don't you wrap us up and take us home well i i think we learned absolutely nothing

01:00:47.440 tonight uh once again we have uh we've sought to destroy the taboos of society and brought

01:00:54.380 everything down to the lowest common denominator ladies and gentlemen as always go out there and

01:00:58.500 Commit more thought crime.

01:01:01.520 Thought crime is death.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - August 29, 2026

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 140 — AI Worship Music？ Data Center Debate？ Lake America？

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