THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 51 — DEBATE NIGHT POST GAME
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On this episode of THA Thought Crime Thursday, host Tyler Grgurich and co-hosts Jack and Tyler discuss the first Democratic Debates and give their thoughts on what they learned from the first night of the 2020 presidential debates.
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DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone.
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard for a very special Thought Crime Thursday.
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Actually, a super stream for tonight's debate night.
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The total initiative relative to what we're going to do with more Border Patrol and more asylum officers.
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I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence.
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That was a full spectrum victory by Donald J. Trump.
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Blake, you are the most independent-minded, black-pilled.
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I was very impressed throughout everything that happened.
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I thought Trump avoided any of the mistakes I was worried he'd make.
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I think he followed the strategy that I hoped he would.
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And basically, all the things that we hoped might happen for Biden that would be negative,
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that he would look confused, that he would look really feeble, that he would lose his
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train of thought, that he would have some bad exchange with Trump.
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And on top of that, CNN, I guess to their credit, they weren't rigging it.
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If they were rigging it, they would have not showed Biden's face on screen as much as
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And so just to understand, the viewing numbers are going to come in.
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And presidential debates are the opposite of football games, where in football games,
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viewership goes up in the third and fourth quarter.
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And then people kind of get bored, especially as the bickering goes.
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Trump had his best and Biden was at his worst in what is the sweet spot, the prime time of
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My phone was lining up with, put him in a home.
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And CNN might not have realized it, but CNN did Trump a huge service.
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Instead, they could have went full screen, the split screen, the contrast.
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Most people were watching, not what Trump was saying, but how Biden was just.
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I'm telling you, this is a Democrat coup where people.
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CNN just said they're talking about him stepping down because the debate was so terrible within
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Oh, so now you want to hear what CNN is talking about?
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John, John King and Anderson Cooper are debating that right now.
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So you can't blame me for not even wanting to watch CNN on our, you know, CNN just said
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The panic on the Democrats is wild and it should be full throttle, full acceleration,
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It was, it reminded me of, remember Trump's announcement at Mar-a-Lago when he announced
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And if you watched it, what Trump did was different from the previous Trump.
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He spoke very, and even the, the times throughout this debate where Biden came at him, he was
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There's going to be screenshots we're going to see for the next five days, 10 days of
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angry Biden, like turning to, uh, to Trump and Trump didn't respond back.
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It's not like anything I have ever heard before.
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Oh, Joe Biden on predicted just went down to 37 cents.
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So he was, he was hovering around there all night.
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Well, he, he started at 46, 47, or somewhere in there.
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Um, and by the way, I don't, I made the right call.
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Now you got some woman talking about how Trump lied a lot.
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I don't need to hear that, but we're getting the clips immediately.
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And here, here's what I have from a, a Democrat reporter.
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He's not a Democrat, but he is a Democrat reporter.
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He says, there is no way to pull Biden unless he want, he releases.
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He basically, he has the delegates, they're pledged to Biden.
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That is the weak spot is Biden has to himself decide to step down.
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And so if Biden believes in himself and sort of Biden's inner cabal, you could have, I
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mean, you have to think, what would they do to force it?
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You could have the cabinet try to force him out, which would be incredibly extreme.
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Uh, maybe the DNC tries to rewrite its own rules on the fly, but I think legally that you
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And it would just be such a suicidal party civil war.
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Biden does have to agree to drop out for this to happen.
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So, so Fox, of course, is saying it's a train wreck for Biden, but CNN, and this is what's
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Those first impressions right after the debate, then kind of have a top down tributary effect
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John King is well-respected amongst regime circles.
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John King saying as the first response that we want to, you know, remove Biden.
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David Axelrod said, we should judge us on policy, but there's a feeling and sense of shock
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how he came out at the beginning of the debate.
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Jack, what are you hearing or seeing, especially amongst moderate voices?
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I've got, uh, let me just say people who I know who are in communication with people
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on the other side in DC, like DC is the, the, the biggest little town in America, right?
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They're all saying we were pretty sure we just watched ourselves.
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And I wanted to say, yeah, front page of Drudge.
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That definitely supports that Bloomberg bought Drudge secretly.
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Cause you can, might be thinking like, this is how I can get in.
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This debate was an unmitigated disaster for Joe Biden.
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Think about where we were three years ago, January 7th, 2021.
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Everyone said when he announced he was running for real action again, that said, there's no
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He had hundreds of millions, but we have it in the primary.
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Donald Trump broke the fact check machine more than I can count tonight.
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He refused to answer some very specific and direct questions about his conduct, about January
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And sometimes there's a parallel universe between the political elites and the American
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It started with the first couple of answers and it has continued throughout the night from
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a, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, to what do we do about this?
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And it involves very senior people in the Democratic Party, including elected officials,
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I mean, Blake, I mean, you look like you just saw a ghost.
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Only if I, they can, you'd have to basically say, he has to blow this up.
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Well, I mean, and there's no, that's not, I mean, tech, technically the convention hasn't
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Van Jones just said, I'm sorry to keep interrupting.
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This is why the two things, there were two stories that happened in the past week.
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Earlier this week, everyone saw Hillary Clinton has all of a sudden started making public
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Hillary Clinton's kind of raising her hand saying, hey, guys, remember me.
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And I talked about this on War Room this morning.
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Michelle Obama calls up Axios and drops a dagger on Joe Biden on the day of the debate.
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Even Michelle Obama is starting to get her name back out there again.
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Minutes into the debate and it continues right now.
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And they're having conversations about the president's performance, which they think was
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dismal, which they think will hurt other people down the party in the ticket.
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And they're having conversations about what they should do about it.
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Some of those conversations include, should we go to the White House and ask the president
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Others are other of the conversations are about, should prominent Democrats go public
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I mean, I'm kind of I'm kind of thinking here live on air, Blake.
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Lawmakers going to the White House to do an intervention.
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They are Barry Goldwater and a few other Senate Republicans went to Nixon and said, you are
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I think CNN got the green light from Schumer Pelosi Obama.
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This is this is indecipherable from Bannon's war room.
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And just to co-sign what John is saying, I mean, the panic that I am hearing from Democrats
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is not like anything that I have heard in this campaign so far.
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And a lot of it has to do with, first of all, there was a deep frustration about Trump's
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But the problem for Biden was that Trump was able to take some sometimes incredible
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falsehoods and turn them into some kind of argument, whereas Biden's answers were in
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Do you see the New York Post headline mumble in the jungle, the mumble in the jungle?
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I mean, Andrew, we got to be tweeting these clubs out.
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If you're the if you're the DNC, if you're the fund, imagine imagine the super bundlers
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Imagine someone who's like the Silicon Valley types who has sat there and gone, oh, just
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There are going to be a lot of phone calls right now, a lot of very angry phone calls
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John King, quote, I've been in politics for 30 years.
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I've never seen so many text messages from people criticizing their candidate.
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They decided they want a summer date because they were behind in the polls.
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But I mean, so let's by the way, I mean, Joe Biden's going to have to.
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Shout out to all the people who said Trump was making a mistake for going into this.
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Shout out to all the people who said Trump should be making a mistake.
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If we have to end up running against Gretchen Whitmer, let's hold our...
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Yeah, if we end up having to run up against Gretchen Whitmer and Josh Shapiro, let's...
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Because I think this entire race is about to reset.
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I don't think they're going to pull Biden tonight, but this is too coordinated from CNN.
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Someone gave them the green light, a producer on high, and said, go.
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This is a complete firing squad right now on CNN.
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Well, like I said, Trump put so much pressure on the DNC superdelegates.
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Can you imagine going to the DNC convention as a superdelegate and with a straight face being like,
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Like, this is going to be a disaster of an entire...
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A contact of mine just said something absolutely hilarious, which is, you're going to be able
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to eat off the San Francisco sidewalks for the next three months.
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Guys, I mean, so let's go through the technical side.
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No, no, I just want to make sure I understand this.
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So they have a late convention, which is not great for them, because let's say that Biden
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They technically can't nominate till the convention because they can't just, like...
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They chose a mid-August convention after the RNC and Paris Olympics.
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Because didn't they do that crap where they were, like, formally nominating Biden, not...
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I have to check that, because if he is the nominee, then it's like a Democrat...
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I understand, but he's the presumptive nominee.
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The complex political scenario that's going to play out in Chicago, where the DNC convention
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Not everyone's going to agree on one candidate.
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By the way, so even if they do a smoke-filled room of Schumer...
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They're all going to have a fight on the floor.
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Well, if they do a smoke-filled room, Schumer, Pelosi, et cetera, et cetera, who do they pick?
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Now, Biden can choose his successor, but if he chooses Kamala Harris, she's worse than
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By the way, you want to talk about chasing Rust Belt men in their ballots?
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The ballots will come to us if Kamala Harris is the nominee.
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If Kamala Harris is the nominee, this is what's going to happen.
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What they would do then, Charlie, is that would be them essentially...
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We talked about this a couple weeks ago when this came up.
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What they would be doing then is they would be downshifting resources away from the presidential
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race, realizing that they don't have the ability to have someone who's going to beat
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Trump, so they're going to shift it away to the Senate and to the House swing races.
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Well, I just had the thought about the replacement process because, you know, it isn't Chuck and
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Nancy and all those who pick it or Hakeem Jeffries or anything.
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It's basically there's a kind of rules committee at the DNC, and they have a huge power in this
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situation if they need to replace someone who's already the nominee.
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And that is, it's kind of not famous people who are on the committee.
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It's a lot of people who are picked by Biden in response to that deal he made in 2020 to
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get the endorsement from Clyburn and all of that.
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I think one of them is like FDR's great grandson or something bizarre like that.
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And you have to wonder, did they walk Joe Biden into the ambush?
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We had that idea, but it felt too fringy conspiracy.
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I think rather than that, it was an I think what you have is you have a party that's very
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nervous because Biden looks weak and all of them are thinking he's weak and the knives
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are out because they know he's not going to last.
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So I want to welcome our almost 20,000 on YouTube, our huge audience on Rumble about
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You guys can email us freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com.
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Who do you think they're going to pull Joe Biden with?
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I'm now anchoring more towards they're pulling Biden.
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We are going to be choosing some of your emails tonight and you guys get free signed copies
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OK, we're going to real America's voice in four minutes.
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Quote, my friend who maxed out to Biden's campaign said she'll never forgive Biden or
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Quote, we have been told for weeks that Joe Biden can do heart cartwheels and handstands.
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We now know that every single American that has said that has been lying to American people.
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And so if they do a smoke filled room and they have an heir apparent and they say, we
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want Newsom, we want Gretchen Whitmer, we want Shapiro, the delegates, by the way, Tyler,
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the delegates of the Democrat Party, some of these people are insane.
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They're going to nominate Bernie Sanders or they're going to nominate like the fringe
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Because remember the entire Hillary superdelegate issue?
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Oh, yeah, Bernie, Hillary, superdelegates, they added more regular delegates to offset
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So the superdelegates are generally famous people, powerful people, donors, all of that.
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They're typically, and this is how most of the parties work.
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Who do you think the grassroots is going to like?
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They took a lot of work to get everybody across the finish line to all get on Biden's
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No, it was a lot of it was game is gamesmanship for years to do that.
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They don't have enough time to get everybody on one side.
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And when we do, we're going to kind of go back through so many of these elements here.
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Email us freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com who you think they're going to replace him with
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Like I would rather run against Gavin Newsom than Gretchen Whitmer in Pennsylvania.
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Yeah, I mean, I here's what's going to be here's what's going to be really interesting.
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I don't think they're going to put I don't think they're going to put a female up against
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Who are the high priestesses of the Democrat Party, Blake?
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By the way, I want to welcome Real America's Voice here.
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I want to just play the CNN tape one more time as we now welcome Real America's Voice
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Every person on the CNN panel, every person out there in the Democrat Party, Joy Reid, John King,
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The betting markets are reflecting that this was the Hindenburg, Pearl Harbor, Hiroshima,
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Let's play cut one twenty three minutes into the debate and it continues right now.
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And they're having conversations about the president's performance, which they think was
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dismal, which they think will hurt other people down the party in the ticket.
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And they're having conversations about what they should do about it.
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Some of those conversations include should we go to the White House and ask the president
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Others are other of the conversations are about should prominent Democrats go public with
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that call because they feel this debate was so terrible.
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So for those of you just tuning in right now, we are seeing the full force to pull Joe Biden
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I'm just telling you, to Abby's point, I've been doing this for 30 something years, going
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And I have never, ever had what happened on this thing tonight happen in the middle of
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And to Van's point, Van made a very important point.
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These are people who love Joe Biden, who credit Joe Biden for kicking Donald Trump out of
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The thing that unites the Democratic Party is trying to keep Donald Trump from getting
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They came into this debate nervous that Biden was in a weak position.
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And I believe that there was a green light given.
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There was a thumbs up saying, hey, you are allowed to now go after Biden.
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Whether it was explicit permission or just everyone, we even saw this signaling.
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There was that Axios article last week that was outer Democrats saying they don't like
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It's a few other guys like his old advisors who've just always been around him.
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They're kind of the cabal running the White House.
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And you just sense there's more and more Democrats who feel outside this process, who feel they're
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And they see their chance and all of them are just whipping the knives out.
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This is our chance to stick the knife in first.
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Maybe you can get in good with the next person.
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I think what they really need is they need some big Democrat to come out and publicly
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What they need is they need a major Democrat, Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer, major governors
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who will say it is time for Biden to step aside.
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What is the chatter amongst the online universe of the people that really matter, that are opinion
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Look, I've been saying for a long time and full credit to Stephen K.
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He said, CNN is one thing, but look at MSNBC because MSNBC is actually the engine room.
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And on MSNBC, I think it's even worse than CNN right now.
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Look, they're all calling for this to come out.
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And I had talked before, by the way, about the Shade War.
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I reported this for years on Human Events Daily and folks and the Real America's Voice audience
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How Kamala Harris was attempting to set herself up as the heir apparent and how he called it Team B and Team K.
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And it was Team K that was always blocked out by Team B.
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And Blake was just referencing all of those members.
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Now she's over at MSNBC, Ron Klain, Steve Reschetti, all of these guys who went around and they've been a Tony Blinken.
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They've been with Biden for a really long time.
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And now all of a sudden the bloom is completely off the rose.
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Everyone can see now that the emperor has no clothes.
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We are watching a Democrat coup against Joe Biden and his entire administration.
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I'm curious who you think they are going to pull Joe Biden with.
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And Kamala Harris is about to come on CNN to do damage control.
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But what I was asking, Blake, is who is the most the most sacred element of the Democrat Party is who?
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That's what makes it so hard to pull Biden is you can't do it without you either have to stick in Kamala Harris, who is a huge political liability.
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But as you say, if you pull her, you're basically saying like, yeah, you go back on all of these things you said in 2020.
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Quote, conversations will take place about whether or not to replace Joe Biden tomorrow morning.
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MSNBC is the tip of the spear of Democrat regime information warfare.
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The coup is underway the same way they did a coup to remove the duly elected president of Ukraine in the Maidan revolution.
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They are now executing a domestic coup against Joe Biden.
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And there is a conversation happening inside Biden's circle and certainly a much more frank conversation happening inside the Democratic coalition.
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And I think there will be stories of a lot of concern about the performance tonight.
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And I think what conversations happening, what do you mean?
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I think the conversations range from whether he should be in this race tomorrow morning to what was wrong with him.
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CNN just says Chris Wallace, quote, Biden just sunk his campaign tonight.
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Blake, I have not seen since Trump went down the golden escalator or no.
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Have you seen the media actually be gloves off towards their own?
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We haven't seen this since Mitt Romney, Obama debate.
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We have not seen the media be like turn on their own.
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CNN just said it was a car accident in slow motion.
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Biden replacement talks, quote, happening, unquote.
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Biden is speaking after his first presidential debate.
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So they carted him off to some sort of supporter thing.
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I'm just thinking about HuffPost used to be like they wouldn't even report on Trump except in their entertainment section.
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And they'd put that thing like Donald Trump is a racist fascist who's promised to do all this stuff.
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This has, at the top level, information warfare.
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Uh, like I, my, my, my White House official source just texted me.
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Jeff Zane's closest friends are telling him to consider suggesting a replacement to Biden.
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Senior advisors are having open discussions about it as we speak.
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And I do mean open right outside the Oval Office, inside the White House right now.
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This is Joy Reid, the race lady, getting freaked out.
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I, too, was on the phone throughout much of the debate with Obama, world people, with
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Democrats, with people who are political operatives, with campaign operatives.
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My phone really never stopped buzzing throughout.
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And the universal reaction was somewhere approaching panic.
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Um, the people who were texting with me were, um, very concerned, um, about, uh, President Biden seeming extremely feeble, seeming extremely weak.
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That basically is like a 10 out of 10 headline, to be perfectly honest.
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Uh, Joe Biden is meandering on a stage right now at some sort of post event debate, a debate event.
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There is full freakout mode in the Democrat side right now.
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Look, at this point, they're, they're going to be calling for a direct replacement.
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So, um, they're probably, if I'm, if I'm the Democrats right now, they're not going to be talking about putting Kamala Harris in there.
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That's why, by the way, Kamala Harris is rushing to CNN right now.
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She's trying desperately to grab onto the limelight.
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But I think if you're the Democrats, you want a fresh start.
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You don't want anyone with the taint of this administration on them.
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You don't want anyone with the taint of Joe Biden on them.
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And yes, the taint of Joe Biden is on Kamala Harris.
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And so they are going to look for a fresh start.
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I think I agree with what Charlie, what you were saying earlier.
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They're going to look potentially to some of the senators, though.
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I really do think it's going to be that governor bench.
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So people like Newsom, people like, uh, Josh Shapiro, people, by the way, uh, possibly cabinet members, you know, Pete Buttigieg probably, I'm sure, by the way, Pete Buttigieg will be throwing his name in as a VP.
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I think, uh, Jack just hit the nail on the head.
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Shapiro is, uh, really close to the front of the line.
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Uh, for a lot of different reasons, Charlie, some that we've discussed that Pennsylvania is becoming extraordinary.
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It's the, it's the absolute necessary component for them to win this presidential election.
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And so you, you don't have many choices at this point.
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But Josh Shapiro is now moving to a Shapiro Whitmer ticket.
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But again, Kamala Harris is not, she's been planning her whole life to become president.
00:29:29.720
She's not going to all of a sudden allow herself to be leapfrogged at all.
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The idea of them just casually replacing these are, you know, this is a war.
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The idea that they'll just consensus agree on someone.
00:29:46.320
Alexander Vindman, Alexander Vindman just tweeted, if Americans were to vote tomorrow, Biden would lose.
00:30:01.020
And Vindman, by the way, this is, this is like whistleblower Vindman tied into the CIA Vindman.
00:30:06.420
Well, look, if there's a, if Vindman's involved, you know, it's a coup.
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Because he was the one that was behind the last coup.
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By the way, I want to remind the audience, if you guys want to get a signed copy of my book tonight,
00:30:20.700
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00:30:24.940
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The hardest working team in politics, right, Tyler?
00:30:30.080
The hardest working, no one comes, we've got a whole war room tonight.
00:30:34.220
I will be personalizing and signing books for anyone that becomes a member tonight.
00:30:42.120
That the two of them decided, after November of 2022, that he was going to seek the presidency
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when there were so many people who thought he should have turned it over to a new generation.
00:30:52.740
And this has been, quite frankly, a car accident in slow motion that we've seen over and building
00:30:59.540
and questioning it, and, you know, as has been pointed out, Joe Biden sought this debate at this remarkably early time
00:31:07.960
because he knew he was losing, and he needed to change the narrative, and he did change the narrative.
00:31:20.060
That, man, David Plouffe, he said, they are three years apart in age, they seem to 30 years apart in age.
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That's David Plouffe, who is the senior advisor, wrote Audacity to Win.
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The Democrat Party may need to be, think, even beyond 2024.
00:31:37.980
I mean, they might be on the verge of an extermination event right now.
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Have you ever seen, after a presidential debate, one-owned party say that we need to find a new candidate?
00:31:49.420
I think a lot of Republicans wanted to throw Trump out of course.
00:32:04.420
But, unfortunately, you know how the thing with politics is.
00:32:09.540
They're laying the groundwork for, you know, that inevitable comeback thing where they're like,
00:32:19.260
They were way better in the debate with Trump in September.
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They've got all of their narratives ready to go here.
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January, you know, January 20th, once the oath of office is taken.
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I'm going to be signing books here throughout the evening.
00:32:33.420
Jack, this is information warfare at this time.
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The unrestrained response from Democrat-on-Democrat-friendly fire.
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Well, Charlie, I mean, this certainly isn't the first time that you've seen commies turn on other commies.
00:32:53.140
You're seeing communists turn on another communist.
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Or, excuse me, you're seeing the Bolsheviks take out the Mensheviks at this point.
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You are seeing one side of the revolution take...
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The younger side of the revolution is taking out...
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It is the younger revolutionaries who take out the older revolutionaries.
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The first time they've seen a sign of weakness.
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The minute that Lenin was gone, Stalin was like,
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Trotsky himself flees to Mexico, takes an ice pick to the head.
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And all the older members of the DNC were watching it happen in real time.
00:33:37.940
So Chris Wallace was the one, remember, who gave Trump the hardest time in the 2020 debates.
00:33:43.120
Newsom is doing a press conference like he's the one running for president right now.
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His whole life has been charting a course about trying to become president.
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And the entire Democrat Party right now is in disarray.
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My question, Tyler, is why is this a shock to them?
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Do they really think Biden was going to be able to perform?
00:34:17.320
Chuck Todd says to watch for if Pelosi or Obama signals.
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Like if Barack Obama says he needs to drop, he needs to drop.
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Now, if Obama all of a sudden like visits the White House or like he goes to Camp David, something is afoot.
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You can have a lot of ice cream for the rest of your life.
00:34:46.100
I'm seeing, by the way, just just one statement that's really sticking that Biden said, and it's getting fact checked everywhere.
00:34:54.720
He said, I'm the only president this century that doesn't have any this decade troops dying anywhere in the world.
00:35:03.220
Like Biden claimed that, and that's just something where you're giving now free ammunition to every single attack ad because now you take him saying that, and you, as we were talking in the ill and thought crime just one week ago, one week ago tonight, that they want, they're going to play that with the Afghanistan promos.
00:35:23.600
I'm just getting a text here that Kamala Harris is calling in all hands at 900 tomorrow at the observatory.
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So she's gathering her staff together tomorrow.
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It is members.charliekirk.com if you guys want to get a signed book tonight and help support the program.
00:35:48.480
So, Tyler, I want to ask politically here, what do we want?
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Let's say in the perfect world, we want Trump to become president.
00:36:00.940
I think the best thing for America is, and keep in mind, if Biden, if there's a disaster and a huge divide in the Democrat Party and infighting that happens in the Democrat Party,
00:36:12.340
that's good for us for the presidential election, bad for the world because, you know, we could have a lot of things go wrong between now and January in the world.
00:36:21.780
So I would love, and bad for America, obviously.
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So here's what I hope happens is that they go, well, we blew it.
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It just becomes that continued slow train wreck.
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That's what I would like to see because this isn't turning around.
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I want Biden to stay in, and they have nothing because everybody's too gun shy to actually take over because you also, keep in mind, the politics of this are you don't want to jump in and lose, too, because then your career potentially is over.
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So if you're Gavin Newsom, are you taking this risk?
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I'm sitting aside, and 2028 is going to roll around here soon.
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It's so hard because I do think you want Biden in for two reasons.
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One, as weird as it is to say, he's less bad than Kamala would be, honestly.
00:37:35.660
He's probably less bad than Newsom or a lot of these other Democrats.
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And as a candidate, man, just, yeah, I think we want him in.
00:37:51.420
I think we're at the position where what we know we're facing with Biden is something we know we can beat.
00:37:57.620
If you introduce a new candidate, you introduce chaos, you introduce unpredictability, you introduce new dynamics that might not work as well.
00:38:05.300
And so we're in favor of change the race as little as possible at this point because it is a race we know we're favored in.
00:38:13.560
However, let's not make any, let's not, you know, let's not confuse this.
00:38:16.700
If they pull, it is a complete, no one knows what that looks like.
00:38:23.760
Even if Biden announces he's not running anymore, after that, and if you say he's not good enough to run for another term, how do you justify him staying in office?
00:38:33.160
Can I make a quick point to that, though, Charlie?
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We watched up close the COVID slash DNC fake convention that they held in Delaware last time.
00:38:47.180
And see, here's the problem is no matter what kind of chaos that ensues, the media and the Democrat Party is more likely to cover it up than anything else.
00:38:58.100
What they cannot cover up is Joe Biden now because everybody, now they've shined a spotlight on it.
00:39:04.300
And so that's part of the reason why it's like, hey, yeah, could it be fun to watch some chaos?
00:39:09.180
I think from a, you know, health of America standpoint, you're going to risk a lot.
00:39:14.260
But more importantly, like the media is just going to lie about it.
00:39:17.120
They're just going to make up stuff and then they're going to do something crazy against Trump or do something crazy, like pull some kind of lever against us to help distract.
00:39:28.680
And does it change, Jack, if they sentence Trump to jail on July 11th?
00:39:35.980
So the one lever that they have left, we're all talking about the DNC right now, but there is actually something that happens prior to the RNC.
00:39:44.880
So prior to the RNC, just days before the start of the RNC, RNC starts, I believe, was July 14th.
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The Thursday prior to the start of the RNC, July 11th, Donald J. Trump in New York City will face sentencing.
00:40:02.720
And Steve Bannon said at the Turning Point Action event in Detroit that he predicts that they will deliver, that Judge Juan Mershon will deliver a multi-year sentence to Donald Trump.
00:40:15.660
Now, the question then would be, so let's say that happens.
00:40:19.840
The question then would be, number one, I don't think Republicans could try to get Trump away from the nomination after a performance like that.
00:40:28.200
So the question is, what day would he have to report?
00:40:31.620
And how crazy would it be, if you follow the math on this, that if Trump had to report on, like, November 4th or November 5th or even November 6th?
00:40:53.200
And I don't want, look, this was a good night for MAGA.
00:40:57.980
But you have to remember, we are up against the unhuman system.
00:41:04.920
Now, there's going to be a lot of pressure on Judge Juan Mershon to throw Trump behind bars after tonight.
00:41:09.180
Yeah, by the way, can we just appreciate how well Trump handled the abortion?
00:41:15.260
That was, that deflated any, like, CNN set up Biden for a win.
00:41:43.240
You can ask me questions directly every Friday.
00:41:53.540
I want to kind of go through the debate itself.
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We have been so on the debate reaction because this is so unbelievable.
00:41:59.300
Senior Democrats panic and openly discuss Biden stepping down.
00:42:16.380
And the question is, who's going to tell Joe Biden?
00:42:25.120
I mean, at what point does somebody say, Mr. President, you realize that the narrative
00:42:30.060
on CNN moments after, not some fringe thing, is they're calling for you to get pulled.
00:42:45.640
That shows that Gavin Newsom has a 17% chance of becoming president.
00:42:53.220
I think he started at like 3% or something today.
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So you can see Newsom pass Joe Biden by the end of the night at this race.
00:43:02.700
Which might be a little bit, you know, inflated.
00:43:04.740
I think it's so inflated because I just, there's a million options.
00:43:07.280
This is like cryptocurrency, just so we're clear.
00:43:09.080
Yeah, Newsom is like the stand-in for all people who are not Kamala.
00:43:17.760
You know who didn't go up was RFK, which is really interesting.
00:43:23.380
He went up a little bit during it and he went back down.
00:43:26.760
Joe Biden's now down to around, hanging around 31 cents.
00:43:32.460
So he was at right at 60, 61 cents pretty much the whole night.
00:43:35.820
So I want to, Jack, I want to throw to you here the narrative.
00:43:40.780
Actually, this is Kristen Welker, I believe, MSNBC.
00:43:49.420
And I think this goes to the disparity of the lawmaker who I heard from saying this is
00:43:53.680
Some even starting to question what happens moving forward.
00:43:59.380
Like this is a few, this is a day on MSNBC and CNN, they are delivering the Biden campaign
00:44:05.280
eulogy instead of a celebratory or an analysis.
00:44:14.520
Blake, in the beginning of the, we were like, okay, we'd hope for a tie, but I was the most
00:44:19.340
I was just like, yeah, it'll probably be trench warfare.
00:44:21.480
It's kind of like a little win here, but I have to go back to something where Trump won
00:44:25.580
the debate where he was able to do it was when he was able to navigate out of the difficult
00:44:33.460
He was able to demonstrate that the radicals, Joe Biden is a liar.
00:44:37.300
Late-term abortion happens all across the country.
00:44:39.560
I thought that was Trump's best debate moment in the history of his candidacy.
00:44:45.220
It was a tough question on a tough issue that the polling says.
00:44:50.100
And he's always been in this tough spot because there are people saying you should just be pro-abortion.
00:44:55.160
People are saying, no, you have to do more pro-life.
00:44:57.320
And it's a very tough thing for him to navigate.
00:45:00.000
And he comes out and he explains why the court ruling that he brought about was a good one
00:45:08.620
I want states to have the laws that they vote on.
00:45:14.220
The ones who are radical are Democrats who want...
00:45:20.060
The way he pivoted and he said, listen, I want these exceptions, which I'm not for those,
00:45:25.300
But I think you have to do that if you're running for president.
00:45:29.700
He didn't apologize for the reversal of Roe versus Wade.
00:45:39.060
Well, and most importantly for the pro-life community, he highlighted what the Democrats
00:45:44.220
The Democrats want to allow abortion up until and after a baby's born.
00:45:48.660
And the way he mentioned the governor of Virginia.
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I think that's actually smart war room response to prove what he's talking about.
00:45:55.640
And this is the most important point, though, is that he is so sharp on this, which is that
00:46:00.920
there's almost no American you'll find that's like, I agree with abortion up until the day
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Unless you're just a sick, terrible, twisted, horrible human being.
00:46:17.580
But in the meantime, I have to sign a book to Antonio.
00:46:23.960
It was a really disappointing debate performance for Joe Biden.
00:46:25.740
I don't think there's any other way to slice it.
00:46:27.000
His biggest issue was to prove to the American people that he had energy, stamina, and he
00:46:34.280
So this is Donald Trump handling the abortion issue correctly and navigating it.
00:46:40.180
So that means he can take the life of the baby in the ninth month and even after birth
00:46:45.800
because some states, Democrat run, take it after birth.
00:46:49.140
Again, the governor, former governor of Virginia, put the baby down, then we decide what to
00:46:54.360
So he's willing to, as we say, rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month and kill
00:47:01.080
Nobody wants that to happen, Democrat or Republican.
00:47:14.980
That's the only circumstance in which that can happen.
00:47:17.020
But we are not for late term abortion, period, period, period.
00:47:24.860
You can do whatever you want, depending on the state.
00:47:31.440
We think the Democrats are the radicals, not the Republicans.
00:47:35.760
He made it about we, not I, the Republican Party, right?
00:47:42.940
And Joe Biden's saying we're not for late term abortion.
00:47:45.040
He's going to have a coup from Planned Parenthood.
00:47:46.900
If he stays in that position, he will have Cecile Richards and all those people.
00:47:54.560
The answer is, I trust women and doctors to make their own medical decisions, right?
00:48:02.100
That was, again, if you look at the polling, that's one of the only issues where, quote,
00:48:08.320
Well, and now we have a clip of him saying, we're not for late term abortion.
00:48:16.520
So that go vote for RFK, crazy abortion person.
00:48:24.480
We have Biden saying, we're not for late term abortion.
00:48:26.760
And then we have immediate clips of all the late term abortion.
00:48:34.340
Okay, to recap, just the headlines here, Jack, I am, I think Dresden had a better afternoon
00:48:49.760
Look, when you walk through the series of Democrat missteps over the last century or so, at least
00:48:58.640
LBJ had the self-dignity, or at least the people around him had the self-dignity to realize
00:49:04.520
that he should pull the plug long before it ever got to this point.
00:49:13.740
They've treated their own family members like trash.
00:49:27.420
And Jill Biden is saying, Joe, you did such a great job.
00:49:36.900
And I think this actually goes to a bigger level of what's happening here, because we
00:49:41.660
knew that this is the same thing that happened between Eleanor Roosevelt and FDR.
00:49:45.680
We talk about this in Unhumans, unhumansbook.com, where it was Eleanor Roosevelt and a series,
00:49:51.160
by the way, of Soviet spies that were all working in concert around FDR because he was catatonic
00:50:03.000
This isn't just a guy making a buffoon full of himself on a debate stage.
00:50:08.620
This is the guy with his finger on the nuclear codes.
00:50:10.860
This is the guy who was supposed to be negotiating with Putin.
00:50:13.600
This is the guy who's very cavalierly talking about invoking Article 5 against the largest
00:50:23.120
Well, I don't care about taking him out on the ballot.
00:50:25.820
They should be talking about taking him out right now.
00:50:28.660
Jack, also, I want to make sure you plug your book, too, on humans.
00:50:31.320
And we have a new podcast, which everyone should subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.
00:50:36.240
It's one of the best podcasts we've done together.
00:50:40.060
Charlie, I hope that people get to hear that podcast.
00:50:44.940
We had probably the most in-depth conversation about this ever.
00:50:47.920
This is all about how what we're viewing right now is a typical leftist uprising,
00:50:53.480
following the same playbook that's run for 250 years.
00:50:57.920
And when you read this thing, Unhumans, which you can purchase at unhumansbook.com.
00:51:01.760
It's available at Amazon Books a Million everywhere.
00:51:03.920
You will learn that the system that we've put together, that they put together, I should
00:51:08.420
say, that we've systemized how they subvert, how they infiltrate, and how they overturn societies.
00:51:13.880
They've been doing this since France in the 1790s.
00:51:18.660
We go through Russia, we go through Spain, we go through China, we go through Africa,
00:51:22.540
we go through South Africa, we go through Cuba, and we go through South America, Latin America.
00:51:27.600
And what people need to understand is that it can be defeated.
00:51:31.200
And the inflection point we are at right now shows how important this is.
00:51:35.820
That's why I was there in the war room, Stephen K. Bannon, earlier today,
00:51:38.920
signing hundreds of books on air with Steve Bannon.
00:51:41.480
If you want one of those copies, they're flying right now.
00:51:44.080
But Steve was gracious enough to sign a few copies.
00:51:48.220
And of course, we're calling that the Political Prisoner Edition.
00:51:51.620
Okay, everybody, email us, freedom at charliekirk.com, and subscribe to our podcast.
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00:52:00.960
And for those of you that have just started to tune in, it is a bloodbath over there at
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00:52:15.860
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00:52:44.460
And when the incumbent is running, the American people are being asked, keep what you got.
00:52:52.480
That was not a stay the course performance from a president who, when he walked on stage,
00:52:56.220
knew the fundamentals of this race were already bent against him.
00:53:01.040
60 plus percent of the country thinks we're on the wrong track.
00:53:03.880
And as Abby noted earlier, there were already significant doubts about, can you do this for
00:53:11.000
And so even in the middle of the debate saying he had a cold, I have a cold.
00:53:18.640
The United States, when the phone rings at three o'clock in the morning, the world doesn't
00:53:30.880
I really wish these modern websites had like newspapers we could just print out because
00:53:36.780
I'm going to enjoy tonight because we have not had a night this good since 2016.
00:53:42.120
But like I think I think we deserve these bad people to suffer for a night.
00:53:47.340
I'm sorry, I'm just going to say it out loud because the front page of Politico dot com
00:54:01.320
This is motivation, by the way, to fight even harder.
00:54:10.860
We need to use this as a reason to go register more voters.
00:54:17.340
Which Tyler walked them through how to do that just really quick and become a one stop
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We're going to enjoy tonight because I think we deserve it after January 6th.
00:54:39.500
It's been a real sucky political couple of years for us.
00:54:44.080
I think tonight we all deserve kind of like a, you know, there can be.
00:54:49.560
We want election night to be the final judgment.
00:54:53.720
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You got to go to wherever you get your applications from.
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It'll tell you exactly who's Republican and who's an independent in your neighborhood.
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Download the Turning Point Action app right now.
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So this night, by the way, I just want to say, Jack, we deserve, all of you in the audience right now that have been kicked and spit on,
00:56:04.820
By the way, we have the Chuck Todd clip that says all the things that the right wing were saying was correct.
00:56:10.880
You deserve just to be able to say, one for the good guys, and then we get back to work.
00:56:15.340
I just want to say that because it has been very difficult.
00:56:18.460
I got to sign a book right here for Brian, who just became a member, members.charliekirk.com.
00:56:23.300
We are about to connect back to Real America's Voice.
00:56:27.380
But when you become a member, you guys get a signed book.
00:56:29.840
Oh, this one is also to Jason, and the next one is to Sarah.
00:56:36.800
And you get so many other benefits, too, at members.charliekirk.com.
00:56:45.300
I just want to say Real America's Voice to our amazing audience that Jack and I talked to every day.
00:56:49.200
And Jack, I'm going to throw back to you in a sec.
00:56:51.840
Tonight, this is not a victory in a political sense, electorally, I mean.
00:56:59.780
For those of you in this audience that took out your shovels and you dug out of the ditch that was January 6th when Donald Trump was politically dead by the media, you deserve tonight.
00:57:11.280
For those of you that took out your wallet and your limited budget and gave 30 bucks to Donald Trump when he got convicted a year and a half ago, you deserve tonight.
00:57:20.340
And I hope you enjoy it because far too often do we just like pass by the victories.
00:57:25.880
And I'm not one to be like, okay, no, you tonight should be able to smile and say yes.
00:57:38.000
And every single one of you in this audience, God bless you, because you had Trump's back when everyone, the knives were out to get rid of Trump after the second impeachment.
00:57:45.640
When they were talking about trying to have a bloody primary and you guys said, no, we're going to stand with the true president.
00:57:51.140
We're going to stand with the duly elected president.
00:57:52.660
And tonight that is a one sec, Jack, that is a vindication of your resolute loyalty to the MAGA agenda.
00:58:00.880
So I just want to say you guys should enjoy it.
00:58:03.380
And also I'm signing books for those that become members, members that Charlie Kirk dot com.
00:58:13.580
She doesn't she doesn't have the stones for it.
00:58:19.400
So Kamala Harris could have taken the mantle of the Democrat Party tonight and become the heir apparent.
00:58:36.360
Trying to say that that it wasn't a terrible performance.
00:58:48.160
You were always someone who piggybacked on the accomplishments of others.
00:58:53.500
And I just want to reiterate this for everybody in the audience.
00:58:57.440
What you have been up against, the smearing and the slandering, even from fellow Republicans,
00:59:01.220
when people said, oh, he's an insurrectionist, we have to turn the page on Trump.
00:59:04.600
Tonight, he showed at the highest level the self-control.
00:59:08.800
Show me a Republican that could have navigated the abortion question as well as Trump did tonight.
00:59:16.780
And for those of you that have flown those MAGA flags high and proudly, I see you guys.
00:59:27.220
Those of you that are precinct committeemen, those of you that show up to our Turning Point
00:59:30.860
action events in Detroit, tonight you could say, I was right.
00:59:34.720
And we're going to prove everyone even more right in November.
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I got to write a book right now to Amanda because they did become a member.
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Tyler, I was going to say there's, there's homework that we all have to do tomorrow.
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And tomorrow is going to be one of the most important days of the election cycle.
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Every person here has friends who are Democrats.
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If they're not voting for Trump because they can't bring themselves to it,
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tell all your friends to be voting, pulling the lever for RFK.
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While they're jumping tomorrow, get them in the resolve portion right now to say, I'm a Democrat.
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So, and by the way, we just hit 3 million on Twitter.
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So breaking news, Donald Trump just got indicted for murdering an elderly man.
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So I want to just play one more here on Real America's Voice as we have them.
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It is a, the rats are jumping the ship on the Democrat party.
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He has the green light from the oligarchs play cut 132.
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That the two of them decided after November of 2022 that he was going to seek the presidency
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when there were so many people who thought he should have turned it over to a new generation.
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And this has been, quite frankly, a car accident in slow motion that we've seen over and building
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And, you know, as has been pointed out, Joe Biden sought this debate at this remarkably early time
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because he knew he was losing and he needed to change the narrative.
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And you believed your, you understand without Donald Trump's base,
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without you that stood by Donald Trump at those darkest moments,
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when it looked like there was no political future,
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then Donald Trump would not have been able to navigate this.
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But those of you that stood by him, this tonight is vindication.
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And by the way, imagine how bad those Robert Hurd tapes must have been,
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But Jack, final thoughts here as we are still on Real America's Voice.
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I got to sign more books for our members, members.charliekirk.com.
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Look, folks, we got to remember, tonight's a good night.
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But they are going to try to find a way to fire back at us.
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I think you're going to see a more unleashed Merrick Garland come up here.
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If you thought that Merrick Garland was off the chain here,
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he now knows that he's only got six months left.
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What does a desperate Merrick Garland look like?
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What does a Merrick Garland who knows he has nothing to lose look like?
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What do the unhumans running the show who realize that they're up against the ropes
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that the American people have completely turned against them?
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And I keep coming back to this, and I just have this feeling in my gut, guys,
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when all the times that Joe Biden kept mentioning Article 5, Article 5, Russia, Article 5, Russia,
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I want to play Chuck Todd, who vindicates all of us.
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You know, one of the things was, would either candidate look like the caricature
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that the other campaign has been trying to paint of him?
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And at the end of the day, Joe Biden looks like the caricature
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Look, I don't want to just tell you what I think here, Tom.
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I've been talking to a lot of leaders in the Democratic Party,
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There's a full-on panic about this performance.
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Where this is, this is about as bad of a, of a performance in order to,
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that Biden could have delivered if his goal was to try to
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I mean, look, it's as bad as it gets, everybody.
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And Trump deserves credit because here's the thing.
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If Trump would have, there was one moment where if Trump would interjected,
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When Joe Biden was prodding him and he was like, hey, hey, pal, you're a loser.
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And Trump just went like this and CNN said, let's go to commercial break.
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Joe Biden was counting on Donald Trump's backlash and him kind of speaking out there.
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I got to write another members.charliekirk.com.
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But yes, Blake, it's just, it's remarkable, right?
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This is honestly, this is like the strongest Trump has ever looked and relatively been,
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especially impressive about it is it's not for anything that you'd usually highlight as a Trump strength.
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Beforehand, all these people talked about the best Trump debate moments are when he has,
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And nope, turns out he didn't need any of those.
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Turns out he could do great just looking distinguished on TV.
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Turns out Trump is good at being on TV, almost regardless of the rules.
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I'm not going to, you think it was a slow start?
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By the way, Kamala Harris, I agree with you, Jack.
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Kamala Harris could have been like, she could have been like, maybe we need to have an open convention.
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By the way, don't be surprised if the crime families of the Democrat Party assemble soon.
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The way they set up this, look, look at the aesthetics here.
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You just really want her to be the nominee, too.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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The way that they set this up, they said, this is your moment.
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Let's play cut 141, and I have to sign a book to Kirby, who just became a member, 141.
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Listen, first of all, what we saw tonight is the president making a very clear contrast
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with Donald Trump on all of the issues that matter to the American people.
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Yes, there was a slow start, but it was a strong finish.
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And what became very clear through the course of the night is that Joe Biden is fighting
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on behalf of the American people, on substance, on policy, on performance.
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And I'm sorry, on substance and policy and performance tonight, I mean, his, the president's
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performance tonight clearly was disappointing for his supporters.
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I mean, thank you, Anderson Cooper, for doing, I mean, this is, the rules have changed, Tyler.
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I love, actually, I just recalled the end of the debate.
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Remember when it was like, Trump went through all of it.
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He was like, wave like, we've seen Donald Trump in debate situations go like this.
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And at the end, remember, he kind of got a little bit like calmly frustrated.
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He said, we're wasting a whole lot of time up here while Joe's destroying the country.
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I'm up against, you know, I feel bad debating you because you're so out of your mind and we're
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Who's really running the country and destroying it?
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And I need to get back in there and help save it.
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And so I thought that was actually a really strong moment where people are going to probably
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But I thought it was really important and really impactful for Trump to say, this is
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Debating someone as incompetent as you is a waste.
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And we've got to do this like, what, three or four more times?
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If Joe Biden's supposed to debate, they can't replace him in the meantime.
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This is, I'm trying to understand the path forward here, Jack.
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So Jack, if you were to say nominee, not nominee, what I think, Kamala Harris, look,
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Like I said, why would you waste, why would you throw your chances for 2028 out the window
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This is a real bad situation for the Democrat party.
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Kamala is the one you throw out there if you think we're screwed.
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Right, so she's kind of the one where she understands, her team at least understands.
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And they clearly understand that she's got the best inside track right now because she's
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So what she's trying to do here is now there was a much more aggressive move that she could
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have made to actually call for an open convention.
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She could have called for an open convention right now and said, let's let the people decide.
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So that tells me, by the way, she doesn't have it locked up.
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Behind the scenes, Kamala Harris does not have this locked up.
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So she's trying to look like a team player, you know, act like a team player, but look
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That's why you saw all the trappings of the office, even the way that she was was talking,
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taking on this, this, you know, almost using the royal we there.
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This is somebody who desperately wants the presidency and knows that she's got a shot.
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I want to I want to play another Kamala Harris.
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Can we just have a screenshot of Kamala Harris up on screen?
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That looks like a someone who knows what they're doing as someone who's trying to address
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If she was truly the number two and not someone who's waiting in the wings, she would have
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been at the debate doing a press gaggle like Gavin Newsom.
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That is not that is not like a good partner right there.
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That is single solo shot, not overly emphasizing Biden.
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I think if you're Kamala and you want to be president, still the best way to be president
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is to get Biden's like shambling corpse through November.
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And then they're like, OK, yeah, Biden can't be president.
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She definitely doesn't want an open convention.
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This is called what Democrats are about to do over the next three months is in video games,
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They're just going to mash the keyboard, press every single button that they can think of.
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They're going to fire the World War Three's around the corner.
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And unfortunately, we're going to see escalation now.
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We're going to see escalation in the Middle East.
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We're going to see escalation in Asia vis-a-vis Taiwan.
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And by the way, Biden's going to want the escalation because Biden is now desperate to
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And he's going to call for increasingly reckless military action that would in and of itself
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Chase, who just became a member, that's Members.CharlieKirk.com.
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And understand, everybody, the chances are we are not running against Joe Biden.
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We need to stay and understand that tonight is a long overdue victory for all of you that
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Gavin Newsom said, quote, we've got to have the back of this president.
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You don't turn your back on somebody just because of one performance.
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So the surrogates don't yet have the green light that the CNN folks yet have.
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But they are inches away, inches away from being able to jump into that position right
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And so, so Tyler, from a political standpoint, who is easier to beat, Joe Biden or Kamala
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I mean, like I said, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, right?
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Right now, today, after what you just saw, let's just keep feeling this one out down the
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Like, I don't think we need to throw any other wrenches into the system.
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So it's, you know, I think Biden weakens everybody.
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And after today's debate performance, you just let this thing fill its way down the road
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Because keep in mind, again, nobody thought John Fetterman had the brain cells to be able
01:12:52.240
And time kept going and time kept passing and the polls kept not changing.
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I mean, even to this point with Joe Biden, we've looked at the polls and gone, how is it
01:13:02.520
possible that he's, you know, getting 46, 47% of these polls?
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So you have to keep in mind that nothing is a for sure thing.
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Kamala is equally as competent or incompetent, as you could say, as John Fetterman, as Joe Biden,
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The Democrats have the systems in place to win elections.
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So let's stick with what is not working for them right now, which is Joe Biden, and build
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the infrastructure that we need to win, which is exactly what we're doing here at Turning
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When they do not show flash polls, they're not good for their selected candidate.
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The first thing you see, but then if they don't go away, rush, rush, rush, rushism.
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El Rushbo taught all of us that if there is not instant data, the data is no good.
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In the meantime, I have to sign another book who just became a member.
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Raise your hand for me if you voted for Biden in 2020 and keep your hand up if you're still
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By the way, I love how they only have three people.
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They don't have to do like this hand up, hand down thing.
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You almost wonder if they just went outside, like outside CNN's HQ.
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If you scale that, Joe Biden has lost 66% of the black vote based on that little sample
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I'm signing a book right now to Liz, members.CharlieKirk.com, on black Twitter tonight.
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This guy, I don't know what he's about, but people said they don't like him, but I think
01:15:13.960
And by the way, yeah, they were making fun of Biden, but I would also point out that
01:15:18.540
there were so many people on black Twitter, and you'd see there's lots of screenshots
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about this, where they were like, I really like the way Trump is coming across.
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And I think, by the way, that this is a time where people really tuned in and gave
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He hasn't been around in four years, so we haven't had the four years of everything
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bad is Trump's fault, everything bad is Trump's fault.
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So people tuned in, and for a lot of people, they were listening to Trump for the very first
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I think that the golf thing was really humanizing.
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I thought it was, you know, it's like an alpha male talking to another male saying, you know,
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There's a lot of people who can just relate to that type of talk.
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And I think that Trump won a lot of support tonight, a lot of communities.
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So I want to bring up an interesting point here.
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But first, I have to sign more books in a second.
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But so I want to bring up an interesting question here.
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Do you think Democrats are afraid to want to jump into the fray?
01:16:34.600
That they don't want to jump into the chainsaw?
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So if there was a person that this was their only shot was right now, that would be the
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So Kamala, you can make the argument this is her only shot, right?
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Kamala is never going to have a chance to become president ever again outside of being
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So she's probably willing to jump into the fray.
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This will not be the last chance he has to run for president.
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Well, I think what you'll see is the thing that you have to know is, above all, these
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The thing is, if you actually watch, you know, we saw Biden at that event with Jill
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Biden looking silly, but that was a supportive crowd.
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He is still in a bubble that will tell him, I did great and people like me.
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They didn't really like that he pulled it all together and was the guy who got the
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They were always cycling through different stars.
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And what's going to happen here is if Biden digs in his heels and says, I'm not leaving,
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they basically have like a day to force this through.
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And if they don't get it, they're just going to realize if we keep attacking, we're just
01:17:59.500
undermining our cause and we're making it more likely that Trump wins and Biden says he's
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And it's almost like Biden can just force them to get back on side by saying, I'm not
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So really, really quick, Tyler, I just need to say, Cooper, thank you for becoming a member,
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I want to just talk about members really quick.
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You guys get every episode that we do on the Charlie Kirk show advertiser free.
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And they can call in every Friday, sometimes email, but almost every Friday.
01:18:36.420
But once we get back to regular standard time and regular standard order, you guys can call
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That is a perk for members only, an exclusive member only questions.
01:18:51.880
You can talk to Blake, talk to the entire team.
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So it's members.charliekirk.com and get exclusive interviews as well that are not posted.
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My interview with Candace Owens, Vivek Ramaswamy, Jack Posobiec, that's all there, members.charliekirk.com.
01:19:03.220
I want to play a piece of tape here, 145, Democrat donors, Democrat voters are very upset
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And Biden is like, oh no, he is really in a bad shape.
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And can he, can he even run in the rest of the election or take the White House again?
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So yeah, maybe an open convention is open convention.
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This is just a random tweet from someone called Cold Healing.
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Genuinely pretty funny that the most well-funded political group on the planet can't find anyone
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So they have to run the corpse of the friend of the single last cool person that they found,
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And there's a lot of Democrats asking like, why didn't we pull this guy earlier?
01:19:56.940
Well, yeah, I mean, this is what we've been hearing all year long though, right?
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And like we said, okay, all of a sudden these states are marching forward and these delegates
01:20:08.360
The key thing is, we thought, remember back in January, February, that was going to happen.
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Every party thinks the opponents are more centrally organized than they really are.
01:20:16.100
And so we think, oh, they're going to pull them because that would make sense.
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And the real truth is, it's thousands of people all with their own agendas and concerted action
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is difficult. The best proof you have of that is in 2016, they, like the entire Republican
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establishment, could not stop Donald Trump from winning the Republican nomination.
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None of them wanted him to do it. Just the voters wanted him to do it.
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No, that's exactly right. Tyler, you got a thought?
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Noah's talking about the fact that Joe Biden used the term illegal immigrant.
01:20:50.240
He also said that Hamas needs to be destroyed. He just lost his base. So he said that the
01:20:56.000
Democrats don't stand for late-term abortion. He's right. He used the term illegal immigrant.
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You're not supposed to use that. We prefer illegal aliens.
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Oh, yeah. There's things that are here, and this is really smart from Andy, that they're
01:21:10.280
By the way, Joe Biden voluntarily brings up migrant crime when talking about abortion.
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Is that like one of the dumbest political things ever?
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Well, he brought it up before Trump did. I mean, it was just like, it was unbelievable.
01:21:20.840
I mean, so here we are, we're talking about, he's like, and, uh, there was a woman who
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was raped by an illegal, uh, which is a separate issue, but, uh, wait, so let me get this straight.
01:21:34.520
And then he said, by the way, I don't think we've said this. I don't think we've actually
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said this, but he had this phrase, and this is trending on Twitter, so I'm going to say
01:21:41.680
it. He had this phrase, he said, people are raped by their spouses, they're raped by their
01:21:46.040
brothers and sisters. Oh yeah. It was, that was so weird. Like, uh, I mean, some of this
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Men can't be pregnant now. So if men can be pregnant, I mean, this is, it's insane.
01:21:58.800
You know, I want to get to some of this tape here. So this is, uh, this is, uh, Caitlin
01:22:02.560
Collins. They're fact checking. They are brutalizing Joe Biden, brutalizing him, calling him a liar,
01:22:08.360
misleading. I mean, again, you have to wonder CNN, just let's take a step back. Everybody
01:22:12.760
Jake Tapper and Dana Bash were unusually fair. CNN cut to a commercial right before Donald Trump was
01:22:20.200
going to respond to something with Joe Biden. Right after the debate, the CNN panel takes out
01:22:25.680
their AR-15s and start unloading rounds in the Biden campaign. You wonder if the green light of
01:22:32.740
CNN on high from Schumer Pelosi said, go hard. It is over. Play cut one 47. This does not sound like
01:22:40.140
CNN. Some of them. He said he's the only president in a while who didn't have any troops dying anywhere
01:22:45.400
in the world. Troops have, of course, died on his watch. He said he's put in a $15 per shot cap on
01:22:50.460
insulin and Medicare. It's a $35 a month cap. He said it's a $200 cap on overall drug spending and
01:22:56.100
Medicare. It's $2,000 a year. He said the border now has fewer crossings than when Trump was in
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office. That's generally not true. He said, or at least strongly suggested unemployment was at 15%
01:23:05.820
when he took office. It was actually 6.4. He said Trump wants to get rid of Social Security.
01:23:10.940
Trump doesn't. He said billionaires pay 8.2% in taxes. It's much higher. He said Trump told
01:23:15.700
Americans to inject bleach amid COVID. We know Trump made foolish comments about scientists studying
01:23:20.420
disinfectant injection, but didn't frame it as advice to people. And Biden said the Border Patrol
01:23:25.140
endorsed him. No, its union supported the border bill he'd supported, never endorsed him himself.
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Is this Steve Bannon's War Room or CNN? Yeah. Am I living in an alternate universe? I'm telling
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you, I'm telling you. That's why I said this is a coup. It is a green light. I totally agree. Jack,
01:23:42.220
I'm going to throw it to you uninterrupted here. But first, I have to sign a book to Andrew,
01:23:45.640
members.charliekirk.com that just signed up. Andrew Colvett, he finally became a supporter?
01:23:49.820
Finally became a supporter. New book, Right Wing Revolution. Jack, talk about your foreign
01:23:54.140
intelligence expert. Why does this have all the hallmarks of a CIA regime change operation?
01:24:01.100
Look, so earlier today on War Room, I detailed how the CIA got involved in our previous elections in
01:24:08.680
2016 and 2020 through the Steele dossier and then through the letter of 51 signed by the intel
01:24:15.040
officials against Hunter Biden, which was quarterbacked by Tony Blinken and was signed off
01:24:21.740
on by none other than James Clapper. And people can read Paul Sperry's piece in Real Clear Investigations
01:24:26.100
earlier today. But people also have to understand that in a foreign, in a color revolution, the first
01:24:33.740
thing that you do is you have all of the media, you take control of the media, you give them your
01:24:39.560
talking points, you have all your apparatchiks, and then you have them pump this out. So in the
01:24:44.300
third world, in the Middle East, by the way, or in different parts of Eurasia, you'll have different
01:24:50.020
outlets and different media outlets. And you'll say, okay, well, this outlet is controlled by this
01:24:53.400
oligarch. This outlet is controlled by the intelligence sector. This outlet is controlled
01:24:57.280
by the military. And you just sort of know that you sort of understand that. And so, you know,
01:25:01.180
when there's a coup activity going on, you'll say, okay, well, this is the military. This is this one.
01:25:04.660
Purgosyan was in Russia, for example, he had this attempted coup about, I think, just exactly one
01:25:10.020
year ago. And people were kind of questioning who is exactly pulling the strings. But it was very clear
01:25:14.480
that this was an open coup against Putin. And so, you know, that he got what happens to people who
01:25:18.840
launch coups against Putin, when they don't have the pieces against them. On this time around, there's a
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coup being launched against a weak leader by their own side to try to take to try to prevent a strong
01:25:32.340
opponent from coming in. This is something you see again and again in leftist uprisings, as I said
01:25:38.360
before, in Spain. You saw this in Russia, when the Russian provincial government wasn't doing well
01:25:44.680
enough. And so, Lenin and his merry band of misfits decided to launch a coup on the Winter Palace in the
01:25:50.400
second November revolution. Charlie, you and I have a great discussion coming up about this, that people,
01:25:56.000
when they join Charlie's members program, will be able to have access to very soon here, that this is
01:26:00.640
what they do. When you are perceived as weak, you are taken out. It's as simple as that. That's
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leftist politics. That's been their power politics for 250 years. Well, and it's not going to be a
01:26:12.440
metaphorical clean kill, right, Jack? I mean, what does this look like? I mean, what is it Kamala
01:26:16.720
Harris who calls the shots? The ticket I think they're angling for, you heard it here first,
01:26:21.740
is if Kamala goes up at the convention, Pete Buttigieg number two. Harris, Buttigieg,
01:26:27.560
Buttigieg has been a really loyal automaton in the waiting, or they go Harris, Whitmer. But I don't
01:26:33.060
think they go two women. I don't. I don't think they go two women. I think Harris, Buttigieg. Now,
01:26:38.460
I want to ask another serious question here, as I sign another book, by the way, for one of our
01:26:42.260
members, members.charliekirk.com, to Annette, is the sentencing. Blake, do you now think it is more
01:26:49.820
likely Donald Trump gets prison time on July 11th? And if you say the politics don't impact it, come on,
01:26:54.160
Judge Mershon is all that now stands between Donald Trump's movement that is unstoppable and
01:27:00.720
ascendant. What does Judge Mershon now do on July 11th? Blake Neff. I think, well, I think he'll get
01:27:08.400
prison time in his sentence. The big question is, is he ordered to serve it immediately? I still lean
01:27:14.440
towards it won't happen. Let me ask you it differently. Does the intensity and the ferocity
01:27:19.360
of the punishment increase or decrease after tonight? Do you think it goes down? This is
01:27:25.260
the, there's a Judge Mershon now. You think he's worried? Oh, you have to be. Well, tell me
01:27:28.940
why. You have to be, because look, judges don't have, Supreme Court justices don't have like
01:27:36.300
full-time protection, okay? There are people, there are judges that are very scared of public
01:27:41.840
opinion. They're very scared of the media. They're very scared of, of what they're, uh, the, the,
01:27:48.920
what's going to be written history books about them. And, uh, Mershon has jumped the shark a little
01:27:55.360
bit here. And there is an opportunity now after seeing this disaster of saying, I'm not going to
01:28:03.340
participate with this anymore. And so I think there's going to be a little bit of a, we have a
01:28:07.420
backpedaling. What number did I tell you guys outside that Trump was going to win by?
01:28:13.080
It was 60. Do you say 60 something? 65 final poll, Donald Trump, 67%, Joe Biden, 33%. Do I not know
01:28:20.080
the pulse? Do I not know the pulse of the American body politic? That's gruesome given like,
01:28:25.520
but did I not call that Tyler 65? I always said 65. So it was off by two points. I can sense how
01:28:30.820
people view things. Why? Because I text all day long and, and, and, uh, freedom at Charlie Kirk and
01:28:37.160
freedom at Charlie Kirk.com. So anyway, breaking news, let's get this up on stage. Sorry to
01:28:40.460
interrupt Tyler. And we're live on real America's voice. CNN post debate, uh, post debate poll
01:28:44.500
who won the debate, Donald Trump, 67%, Joe Biden, 33%, which means one out of three thought
01:28:50.320
Joe Biden did well, which is like your ultra partisan blue, blue, no matter what. So that
01:28:55.640
means that like every, look at, look at the screen right there, guys. Look at that. They lost
01:28:59.840
every independent. That is unbelievable. You know, I'm thinking on it harder. It definitely,
01:29:05.020
it increases the risk that the judge throws him in jail. Okay. I don't know if it will happen,
01:29:09.460
but there is a type of liberal out there and it's a common type. And I don't know for sure if judge
01:29:15.040
Marchand is one of them, but he could be where they'll just think it's all down to me. Only I can
01:29:20.560
save democracy now. So our democracy is in peril. I must save it. You're giving them too much credit
01:29:27.560
on judge Marchand. We have, we have to throw this out there because this is something a lot of people
01:29:33.020
didn't pick up on this, but Steve Bannon was originally supposed to be up with judge Marchand
01:29:38.180
in his September case on, we built the wall. Judge Marchand was recently switched out of that case.
01:29:44.720
Reassigned. That means he, so he's reassigned. That means he's got an even freer hand to take a shot
01:29:51.000
on gold here on July 11th. Uh, I totally agree. And by the way, I have to write another book. I'm,
01:29:56.140
we're running, we got Daisy. I need more books. By the way, look at this book pile I have here.
01:30:00.080
Can we get that in the shot? We are, we are signing books live of our new book. Um,
01:30:05.000
members.charliekirk.com, uh, members.charliekirk.com. So the question is, so that's an
01:30:10.540
interesting question. More or less likely judgment, all eyes on judge Marchand. When you
01:30:15.600
have a presidential debate, do we have any initial ratings numbers by the way? No, that'll come out
01:30:21.280
that 67%. Blake, have we ever seen a Delta like that in modern? I mean, I don't think so. Even when
01:30:27.980
Trump did not do well with the debate back in 2020, it wasn't that bad. A bad debate is,
01:30:32.200
yeah, like 55, 45, something like that. 67% of people that watch thought Donald Trump won?
01:30:37.900
That's crazy. And there are a lot of people watching today. I mean, I can't wait to see
01:30:41.460
the numbers. Minimum 70 million. So, uh, yeah, I mean, it's, we're talking tens of millions of
01:30:48.580
people. If you don't think that this is going to have some kind of massive negative impact
01:30:51.980
here on the, on the Biden campaign. I mean, this is the next 10 days are going to be historical
01:30:58.340
in the amount of running around, uh, that the Democrat party is going to be doing.
01:31:04.020
No, I mean the, the maneuvering and the question not only is who, but it is how it is. How are
01:31:09.860
they going to recover on this? Right? So let me throw out another scenario that we haven't
01:31:14.880
talked about that could happen. Uh, so we talked about the people who probably won't stick their
01:31:19.840
next out because they have a political future. So the, you know, Gretchen Whitmer,
01:31:23.340
this is a smart point. What you're saying for people that just tuning in is that they don't
01:31:26.580
want to run into the buzzsaw this late in the game. So who will, so we have to look at this
01:31:29.940
from a political context of like who has, is willing to risk everything because their career
01:31:35.560
is largely dying or dead anyways. So you've got Kamala Harris, uh, you've got a couple other
01:31:42.340
options too, Charlie. And this is something we're thinking about. Uh, there are some retiring,
01:31:47.220
uh, moderate Democrat type, uh, us senators. Uh, there are former governors that are, are
01:31:55.860
in that camp. There are some, Oh, I see. So can I interrupt? So you're talking about a
01:32:00.580
admirable sacrificial lamb. So kind of like we know we're behind. So an example would be
01:32:05.700
John Kerry. That's a crazy example, but, or Hillary who would take it. I'll give you an
01:32:09.960
example. I'll give you an example. John McCain. He's John McCain was an example on our
01:32:15.120
side. No, he wasn't. No, no, no, no. Fair enough. No, that's a great point. That's a
01:32:18.120
smart point. No, no, no, no. That's very smart. You're right. I'm talking about in who's alive
01:32:22.040
and sentient right now. Um, but, but you have like, like the Obama buzzsaw was there. They
01:32:27.160
said, put up the neocon, give him his chance. You've got, uh, people who've sold their souls
01:32:30.880
to the Democrat party, like Jeff Flake, for example, who is the ambassador to Turkey right
01:32:35.760
now, uh, has a completely abandoned the Republican party. He's not, he's not going to run. I
01:32:39.820
understand. But what I'm saying is, is like, there's people out there that will be
01:32:42.840
willing to just like throw their body into the business of running for president.
01:32:47.140
They, their, their trajectories upward. I think it would be more loyal Democrats that would
01:32:51.660
do that. So let's think about who that would be. It'd be a mixture of like old bull, new
01:32:55.220
bull, like DNC is not going to take a Republican, but people that have long-term ambitions, they're
01:33:01.460
not going to want to get into the buzzsaw called the MAGA movement, but it might be somebody
01:33:05.500
who is kind of neoconservative, who can limit the losses. Is that right? Uh, by the way,
01:33:10.980
I want to read one of our super chats, Charlie and team bearded Viking here. I'm up to 68
01:33:15.140
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01:33:18.400
We love bearded. He's amazing. 68 registered voters, bearded Viking. I, if I haven't sent
01:33:22.720
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01:33:29.000
You register a hundred voters. You get a free membership. We're going to fly him out to Phoenix.
01:33:33.060
I love that guy, Tyler. I want to keep on playing around with this. So I think it's important,
01:33:36.300
Blake, I want you to think of some names. If they, if they determine it's so late in the
01:33:40.680
game, Newsom's out. Kamala Harris is out. They want to go to the kind of stoic old school
01:33:46.740
Democrat kind of like, you know, Gore Lieberman who in the Democrat apparatus, you know, would
01:33:54.360
do that or could do that. What if you grabbed Joe Manchin? He does. He's like, he's an independent
01:34:01.380
now, right? Let me give you an example. Let me give you a really good example of close
01:34:06.680
to home here. Unfortunately, Janet Napolitano. Yeah. Cause she has some border kudos. She's
01:34:12.740
on her way out the door. She comes in as like a hero on a white night, Eric, former Arizona
01:34:18.660
governor, hero. I'm just saying there's just people. No, no. I hear you. Or how about
01:34:23.440
somebody Jerry Brown, California? Oh, Jerry Brown's interesting. Or someone who is so politically
01:34:27.640
ambitious, like Beto O'Rourke, who will just do it anyway. I know that's like a crazy name.
01:34:31.580
Yeah. He's not likable. Their bench is so lacking. But they want someone likable. So
01:34:36.120
they want like a, they want somebody like a Jerry Brown or a, you know what I mean? Somebody
01:34:42.720
that just doesn't care where they just go to him and they go, Hey, you know, you're likable.
01:34:46.860
Like you can't, like they don't have that much. They have Andrew Cuomo, Elliot Spitzer, you
01:34:51.960
know, John Corazon. I mean, you got people who are like that are, you know, prison sentences.
01:34:57.760
So I want everybody emails freedom at Charlie Kirk.com who I'm missing somebody who would
01:35:02.780
the Democrats put in into the buzzsaw that, uh, that would be able to, uh, not win, but
01:35:10.040
lower the loss and be able to mitigate the damage. Does that make sense? Tim Kaine, Tim
01:35:16.200
Kaine, who was a previous VP, kind of an old bull in the Democrat party. Uh, Elizabeth Warren
01:35:21.940
might take it because she might never have another shot though. She thinks she has another
01:35:25.700
shot. Bernie Sanders, Bernie, Bernie would be dangerous by the way. Bernie doesn't. I
01:35:31.200
think we would win against Bernie cause the boomers hate Bernie, but Bernie would be so
01:35:34.220
interesting. Right. That's right. Warner, Mark Warner, like kind of Chris Murphy. That's
01:35:39.400
right. Uh, Hickenlooper from Colorado would be interesting. He would do it. Hickenlooper
01:35:43.360
Hickenlooper has kind of that mainstream. Cause here's the thing. If they feel as if they're
01:35:47.640
going to lose by seven, they say, we want someone to lose by four. Uh, maybe like JB Pritzker
01:35:52.340
from Illinois, who doesn't have much of a future, right? Who is from Illinois. Yeah.
01:35:56.100
Stick him in. I bet Pritzker thinks he thinks cause he's a delusional mania. He thinks he's
01:35:59.420
a future VP. Email me, but also become a member. If you guys have thoughts all the time, you
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family. When you go to members.charliekirk.com. Um, so one of our, uh, somebody just emailed
01:36:21.960
us. This debate was a huge plan for Democrats to be like, we need to replace him. CNN didn't
01:36:25.760
hesitate to throw him under the bus. The first thing they said is replacing him. That is from
01:36:29.400
Marina who worked for Fox news before. She's our CMO at TPSA. I think that's very smart.
01:36:35.540
Kamala Harris's dress choices, her entire choices, that setting that she was in the lighting, uh,
01:36:43.440
the fact that you had Michelle Obama drop that story to Axios earlier today, throwing the dagger
01:36:49.460
in Joe Biden and Jill Biden's backs, by the way, uh, Hillary Clinton making, doing the book tour,
01:36:55.780
announcing that she's going public. All of the signs have been there already that this was leading the
01:37:02.480
lamb to the sacrificial slaughter, or essentially it's, it's the old cow theory. And the old cow theory
01:37:09.140
is that when you need to get the cows across the river fold with, uh, you know, snakes and piranha,
01:37:14.260
whatever it is, it's like a, you know, um, European thing that they'll say, put the old cow downstream,
01:37:21.000
let the piranhas go after him and bring the herd across the other way. Jack. And I, I know we said this
01:37:25.660
name and I passed over it. I think Hillary would do it. Hillary doesn't think she has a future.
01:37:29.840
Hillary could be a consensus candidate, right? And you know, she would give a convention speech
01:37:33.920
and you, and Michigan, I will campaign in your state this time. It has a big benefit. It would
01:37:41.660
be funny. I think it would be hilarious. Um, and, and by the way, I, I think Hillary Clinton,
01:37:46.960
we would beat Hillary Clinton. Let me be perfectly clear. She's so hated, but she would do it. She
01:37:50.300
would do it. Her whole life has been, by the way, she has a new book coming out. Are they going to pull
01:37:55.240
the hill dog? Email us freedom at charliekirk.com. I have to write a book here to Amy and who just became
01:38:01.040
a member. Uh, yes, by the way, by the way, by the way. Okay. Yes. Go ahead. We were saying,
01:38:06.960
we were saying, so if this is, if this is a communist coup, so Lenin dies, there's a power
01:38:12.520
vacuum. Who, who rises to the highest? Well, Stalin comes up. Why? Because he's the most ruthless.
01:38:18.500
He's the most brutal. He's got the most willingness to do whatever it takes to win. Who on the Democrat
01:38:25.660
side is more ruthless and brutal than Hillary Rodham Clinton. They don't exist. It's not
01:38:33.240
Newsom. It's not anyone in the Obama camp. If there's anyone who doesn't matter where the
01:38:37.780
bodies are buried, it's Hillary Clinton. Does anyone even have a body count within 20 of
01:38:42.580
hers? But I mean, we brought up, we see, we bring Clinton does. I mean, I'm going through
01:38:50.240
a list. A different type of body count though. Is it a different type? That's the question.
01:38:54.420
I, Oh, I just got that. I just, I saw what you did there.
01:39:00.300
There's not many people for them to dig into, but if they grab somebody, they do it. I can
01:39:05.700
tell you, I know who's probably kicking themselves right now is Kyrsten Sinema. I mean, Kyrsten
01:39:10.740
Sinema. Yeah. This whole unity ticket thing. It's dead. If she would have, she was just still
01:39:14.860
a Democrat. If she would have remained a Democrat and just said, I'm not running for reelection,
01:39:19.240
but I'm considering running for president. Uh, you know, a lot of people have approached
01:39:24.160
me and she just kept her options up and didn't really do anything. She could be in the moment
01:39:28.000
right now where, uh, you know, there she's the go-to. I mean, this is really important.
01:39:33.960
Can I interrupt? So this is what's important. Everybody. Let's say that the masters at B
01:39:37.580
say we want Michelle Obama and she would have to want it. They have to wait till August. They
01:39:42.980
can't just usher it on high. Now Joe Biden can choose himself, but it has to go through
01:39:47.660
the performance and the convention. And all it takes is what Tyler, one third of delegates
01:39:51.500
to be like, no, we're going to make, we're going to go floor fight, floor fight, 1976
01:39:55.980
style floor fight. Yeah. I mean, and this is part of it too. So Reagan Ford, when you get
01:40:00.060
into all this, like there's rules and convention. So all of the party apparatuses run by Robert's
01:40:05.660
rules of order. You have all this stuff. You have people who are not going to agree.
01:40:09.920
It's really hard to hurt cats and it doesn't matter what party you're part of. Like, trust
01:40:14.700
me, ask all our, all our libertarian friends, hard to hurt cats, right? You can't, it's hard
01:40:18.900
to run a party. Well, they, they run it like a bullet bureau at the Democrat party. Yeah,
01:40:22.500
but I mean, still, I know, but still it's hard. I mean, you still have to get everybody
01:40:26.380
on board for under, under one consistence candidate. And like I just said, for all the reasons
01:40:30.800
that we provided, it's going to be really tough to recruit anyone that's competent. You're
01:40:35.440
either going to have somebody that's an old bull. I think it's one of two things you have
01:40:39.080
Kamala or you have an old guard, old bull type person. That's like a, oh my gosh, come
01:40:45.600
in and just swoop in and try to save us and cross our fingers. So Douglas says this and
01:40:49.660
he's becoming a member members.charliekirk.com. But he says, why are you guys pretending Gavin
01:40:53.980
Newsom isn't the one he will win without a doubt. You all know that. Why am I watching
01:40:57.440
all this banter? Well, hold on a second. Gavin might not want it. If the polling is so bad
01:41:02.060
and so insurmountable, he's not going to want to go in front of a buzzsaw. Right,
01:41:06.080
Blake? And even if you do want it, it helps to think through the process. No one in the
01:41:13.860
White House is like one of Gavin's people. They're Biden's people. No one on the DNC
01:41:19.160
is one of Gavin's people. They're Biden's people. So it's really, who does Biden want? Does
01:41:23.920
Biden like Gavin Newsom? He might hate Gavin Newsom. I bet a lot of Democrats hate Gavin
01:41:28.360
Newsom because he so badly wants to be president. Yeah, well, why does this guy get it? He didn't
01:41:33.100
earn it. He didn't win any states. Yeah, he's, yeah, it's, he's the one of the most famous
01:41:37.700
Democrats. So it makes sense his name comes up. But if they view this as anything other
01:41:42.860
than a total suicide mission, I think the attitude of other Democrats is going to be,
01:41:46.880
why do you get it? Why don't I get it? Like, your state is the one that everyone hates.
01:41:50.840
I have to put it back up on screen. Guys, can we put the CNN poll, please, up on screen?
01:41:54.680
CNN post debate poll, Donald Trump, 67% believe that Donald Trump won tonight. And remember,
01:42:02.500
Donald Trump was up in every poll going into tonight. Just so you understand, on election
01:42:07.200
betting odds.com, they have done, they have Joe Biden at 22.6% of becoming president. They
01:42:12.140
have Gavin Newsom at 9.9% and Kamala Harris at 4.7% and Michelle Obama at 4.5%. Said differently,
01:42:19.640
Newsom, Harris and Michelle Obama combined have a greater odds on this betting market than Joe
01:42:24.340
Biden becoming president. The betting markets are saying it's going to be somebody other
01:42:31.120
So you have this other, this third category. So we said, you know, Kamala, old guard, old
01:42:38.700
bulls. And then again, if these other people are like, I'm not taking the risk, I'm not wasting
01:42:43.420
my chance. And it has to be someone that's going to go out. It could be a current senator.
01:42:50.480
Well, we talked about Hickenlooper. So you brought up Hickenlooper, who's a current senator.
01:42:53.620
Oh, you know who another one? Raphael Warnock would be interesting.
01:42:57.240
Yeah. If Kirsten Gillibrand, but she's too, she's awful. She's, she's too young. I think
01:43:02.860
I don't think anyone would go for that. You would have to pull someone like a Dick Durbin.
01:43:08.320
Or somebody that was going to agree, like, I'm just doing this now. I'm going to step
01:43:12.060
down like a Cortez Masto. Or, you know, you know, I just don't know if you, you know,
01:43:19.740
Mark Kelly from, from Arizona. I mean, you've got, but like, this is the political struggle.
01:43:25.620
They don't want somebody that's going to stick around, right? They want somebody that would be
01:43:29.480
like, Hey, you're in for this. You're probably going to lose. And it would have to be someone
01:43:35.340
that's like on their way out the door and just like wanting to quit politics.
01:43:39.120
I'm going to sign a book here for one of our members, members.charliekirk.com. Mark,
01:43:42.280
who just became a member. This, you're, you're seeing history unravel in real time. I mean,
01:43:48.160
This will be one of the days we remember most in the entire history of our.
01:43:51.360
No, I mean, you're going to remember where you were because this just wasn't debate.
01:43:54.340
This is a complete seismic change. And Blake, you're not one to get ahead of yourself.
01:43:58.740
The chatter you're seeing, if you were to say you're, you're, you're big into statistics,
01:44:02.960
the percentage chance that Joe Biden remains the nominee till November, give us the odds.
01:44:17.160
Therefore, let me ask you a different question.
01:44:19.640
With tonight's debate performance, what now is Joe Biden's chance of getting another term
01:44:39.840
And I think he boosted himself a solid 10%, which is a ton for one night's events.
01:44:44.560
And by the way, we have July 11th coming up for sentencing with Trump.
01:44:47.180
And then we have the RNC, which your numbers always go up during your convention.
01:44:51.120
And so what else, besides throwing political opponents in jail, they have nothing else
01:45:07.860
If you don't know who your nominee's going to be, how the heck are you going to do conscripted
01:45:13.320
Because when you know a nominee, you bring in your friends, you bring in the stories, the
01:45:17.660
I mean, if you don't know your nominee, you're going to be like, and it's Tim Kaine.
01:45:23.340
And we found a picture of him on Shutterstock from 1997.
01:45:32.260
And no one could probably pick out Tim Kaine walking through an airport, right?
01:45:38.180
Again, I learned this when I saw the governor of Iowa, Kim Reynolds, walking through the
01:45:44.340
middle of the Iowa State Fair and nobody was saying hi to her.
01:45:46.840
Like, people can't pick out, like, people don't know these people.
01:45:49.660
And that's a big part of winning their presidential elections.
01:45:54.240
They got to figure, they got to be able to pick you out of a crowd.
01:45:58.020
So the problem that the Democrats have, too, with that go with somebody that's just like
01:46:03.100
a rando is that they're almost assuredly going to lose.
01:46:09.120
They're almost assuredly going to lose in that case.
01:46:14.900
Because there's something that we've all sort of been saying without saying it is that
01:46:18.900
coming out of this, the reason they're terrified, the reason they're willing to do something
01:46:23.880
so desperate and so ridiculous as change out their candidate this late in the game is
01:46:29.900
because everyone knows that as of this moment, barring some crazy act, Donald Trump is going
01:46:41.700
He's campaigned on issues that the American people want.
01:46:50.320
They want him back in office because they're sick and tired of Joe Biden.
01:46:54.640
They've seen the best that you have to offer and they're done with it.
01:47:00.920
And no matter what they've tried, they can't stop it from happening.
01:47:07.940
By the way, I hope the Secret Service protection is legit on him.
01:47:11.100
I want to get two paid comments because people made them.
01:47:21.900
And then he suggested Hakeem Jeffries could maybe be the candidate.
01:47:28.220
That would be interesting, but he may just want to be speaker.
01:47:30.600
By the way, this is what, you know, Bob Casey tonight texted a guy on CNN and says, I don't
01:47:35.800
think I can win in Pennsylvania with this debate performance.
01:47:44.900
You're looking at potential Senator Hovda, Senator Sam Brown.
01:47:48.380
I mean, this is so bad that when your party collapses and disintegrates, it is dog eat
01:47:55.240
We could see a Eric Hovde in Wisconsin out of this.
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Tammy Baldwin is a terrible, terrible candidate.
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She's out hiding from the entire general public.
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Nobody wanted to basically run for Senate in Wisconsin.
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And after today, you know, Trump's got a really solid shot across the blue wall.
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Again, tonight is about enjoying and analyzing tomorrow we go to work.
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You got to plan ahead and fight the good fight.
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This one I just signed, members.charliekirk.com to Grant.
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We have a statement from the Biden-Harris campaign chair, Jen O'Malley-Dillon.
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Tonight, President Biden presented a positive and winning vision for the future of America.
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One in which every American has a fair shot at the American dream.
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And where our president fights to strengthen our democracy.
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On the other side of the stage was Donald Trump, who offered a dark and backwards window into what America will look like if he steps foot back in the White House.
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A country where women are forced to beg for the health care they need to stay alive.
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A country that puts the interests of billionaires over working people.
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And a former president who not once, not twice, but three times failed to promise he would accept the results of a free and fair election.
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Trump's performance tonight reminded the American people why they fired him four years ago.
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And reinforced how high the stakes are this November for the future of our country.
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I don't think Biden's just going to step aside.
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But, Jack, what is your opinion on that Biden statement?
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They haven't realized that they've hit rock bottom yet.
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They say that addicts need to hit rock bottom before it is that they can get out of there.
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And so, for them, rock bottom will be on the evening of November 5th, 2024, when the polls results, not the opinion polls, but the real polls, come in.
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And Donald J. Trump destroys the blue wall, when Donald J. Trump flips the Rust Belt, when Donald J. Trump takes the Sun Belt, and every single one of them realize that, no, it wasn't just people in the media who didn't like you, Joe.
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It was the truth all along that you suck, that your candidate sucks, that he's completely shot.
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Whatever kind of person he was before is completely gone, and Donald J. Trump will be the next president of the United States.
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Oh, by the way, 84% of people say that they disapproved of Joe Biden's performance there.
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Okay, let's go to, this is Senator Kara McClaskell, who knows something about running, even though she knows she's going to lose, when she continued to run in the 2018 midterms, when Josh Hawley displaced her from power.
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This is Senator Claire McCaskell, very honest about Joe Biden's take.
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I'm going to keep on signing books as you listen to this, members.charliekirk.com, cut 152.
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Joe Biden had one thing he had to do tonight, and he didn't do it.
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He had one thing he had to accomplish, and that was reassure America that he was up to the job at his age.
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Now, does that mean that my phone blowing up with senators and campaign operatives and donors, big donors from all over the country?
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Does that mean that Joe Biden is not going to be the candidate?
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I think we'll know a lot more in a few weeks how this plays out.
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You know, you have to ask, how did we get here?
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How did we get to the point that we're spending a whole lot of time talking about the vice president tonight instead of talking about the president?
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And I don't know how the rest of this story is written.
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I don't know if things can be done to fix this.
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You see, usual spin is, look, started, didn't start great, but let's get to the issues.
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Oh, sorry, he's been too busy running the country to prepare for debates all day long.
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And, you know, Donald Trump's had a lot of time on his hands being in a courtroom or something smart.
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It was almost like she just kept going on and on and on.
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You know what I think would be a fun thought exercise?
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If the election were held tomorrow, what would the electoral map be?
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Was it a fair and free election without really voting?
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Free and fair election, and we just, we had everyone voting one day.
01:53:51.740
Well, let's imagine all the early votes that they would normally get,
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that they're all voting tomorrow in some encapsulation of the events that occurred tonight.
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I mean, I think if it's fair and free and no widespread fraud, which we've seen,
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That Donald Trump, do we have more tapes in the actual debate?
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Because we've been so, just guys, send me this sheet.
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Donald Trump did phenomenal with one specific group of voters, boomers.
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They looked at him, and they said, okay, how old is Donald Trump?
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So they immediately compared him to every 78-year-old friend that they have, and they
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said, is Donald Trump significantly more competent, well-handled, understands the issues?
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I trust him more than my other 78-year-old friends.
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And the answer across the board, if you're answering that question honestly, is yes, he appears much younger and sharper than my other 78-year-old friends.
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And what are the attack vectors that Joe Biden has been doing?
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This is Trump on Social Security, and he was brilliant.
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Inflation and border are Donald Trump's sweet spots, and he brought these fringe issues back
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I don't think people understand the brilliance that he pulled off there.
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Why the heck do we have people from Tajikistan coming across the border?
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But Social Security, he's destroying it because millions of people are pouring into our country,
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What they're doing to the VA, to our veterans, is unbelievable.
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Our veterans are living in the street, and these people are living in luxury hotels.
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He doesn't know what he's doing, and it's really coming back.
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I've never seen such anger in our country before.
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I mean, because the Social Security thing, he immediately connects it to immigration and the border.
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I want to play another piece of tape here, though, and then I want to have, again, we've been so ahead on the Gretchen Whitmer thing.
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Jack, have I not been playing the Gretchen Whitmer guitar for a couple of weeks?
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Look, Michael, Michael Luo, the editor of The New Yorker, just said, oh, I'm posting this profile we just did of Gretchen Whitmer in case anyone wants to read, and people are now starting to share that.
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So not only are the knives out, of course, the search is already underway, and you've got the editor of The New Yorker is suddenly starting to say Gretchen Whitmer thinking about Michigan, thinking about the Rust Belt.
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And funny enough, I seem to remember there's a certain organization that just held a massive event in Gretchen Whitmer's own backyard.
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And understand, they thought that the right, the American right in June of 2024 would never be more fissured and fractured and divided.
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In reality, we have never been more united in the last couple of years.
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Even people that don't like Trump are like, fine, just put him back in.
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You know, it's like it's one way to get rid of him is make him president again, right?
01:57:33.060
And so one of our members has this point, members.charliekirk.com, was how Donald Trump was able to navigate this particular question.
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I think this was all of a sudden when this was it when I want to repeat something I said earlier.
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NFL football games, the viewership goes up as the game progresses, especially if the game is close.
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Presidential debates, viewership goes down like dramatically after 20 minutes.
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People lose interest because people are not politics obsessed.
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Better call Saul on Netflix or whatever people watch.
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Donald Trump's handling of this was boomer victory.
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And it shows Joe Biden has no business being president.
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Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I've been able to do with the with the covid.
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Excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with.
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Thank you, President Biden, President Trump was right.
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That right there was in the window where the viewership was the highest.
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And that was the perfect case of how he didn't need the whole, you know, the mics being cut off.
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Do not interrupt your enemy while they're destroying himself.
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He was talking about something and we did beat Medicare.
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You want to get to two of our these because these people did pay.
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What happens to the Ohio ballot in November with the changes they made recently?
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Are you talking about whether they were going to keep Biden on the ballot?
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Well, they changed it because remember, Biden screwed up and wasn't going to be on the ballot.
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And the Republicans helped get him on the ballot.
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Because we think it'll help us to have Biden on the ballot.
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And then the second one, this is easier to answer from NRA 7.
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And they could have done this back in January, February, January.
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I think Jill Biden built a fortress around him.
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I think that she dug in similar to Woodrow Wilson's wife and was like, you know, allied with Ron Klain.
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We have full control of the federal government.
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Like, oh, I guess we could just, you know, eat ice cream for the rest of our life in Delaware.
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The people around Joe Biden refused to give up power.
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You know, it also, I think their attitude was like, we beat him in 2020.
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And then the midterms gave them another lease on life.
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I think if the red wave we wanted had happened in 22, I bet we would be against a different
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If we end up winning in November, a subpar performance in November of 2022 might have
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Well, not well, maybe physically alive, politically speaking, right?
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After watching tonight, would you consider voting for only Trump, only Biden, both or neither?
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So essentially, Donald Trump, the margin of error is plus or minus five, five and a half
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That's an eight point win of translating the debate into votes.
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If you believe that poll, it's Trump is up six, even if Biden wins every undecided voter
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And that doesn't count the MAGA enthusiasm that's hard to track and the low prop voters.
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So, Jack, President Jill Biden, they should blame her.
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I think she built a castle of the White House and was like, we beat him once.
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I've been saying this for two full years now on Human Events Daily, practically since episode
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one, numero uno of the show, that it's been Jill Biden.
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These were the people running the administration.
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So, these were the people who were actually calling the shots.
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Joe Biden's role was to sort of be the guy on TV every once in a while, give a perfunctory
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speech, sort of show up and be there, but not actually make any of the decisions or do
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And obviously, we know Merrick Garland and Chris Wray at DOJ and FBI, respectively.
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And so, and Mayorkas, I mean, he just said open the board.
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So, it's, it's really been, look, it's, this is the empire, the empire.
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Jill Biden, who has always been, for anyone who knows, I can't get over this because it
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was yesterday that I interviewed London Roberts and I briefly, very briefly got to say hi
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It was clearly Jill Biden who's driving the train of non-recognition for that granddaughter
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that tells you everything you need to know about how the Biden family is run, about how
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I knew these guys when they hung out back in Philadelphia when he was the vice president
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and then before then, when he claimed that he was, oh, I'm the third senator from Pennsylvania.
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I take the train on to Yostela every day down to DC and then I come home to my family.
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He was hanging out at the University of Pennsylvania all the time.
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She was rocking and rolling and Joe Biden was her arm candy at every single one of those
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And I know because I was there too in Philadelphia, Jill, I was there watching you from across
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We know that it's been you pushing and prodding him along all the time.
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But at the end of the day, Jill, at the end of the day, you're just a Jersey girl.
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You're just a Jersey girl whose greatest goal in life was to die in New Jersey.
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And now you found your way into the White House and you have no idea what you're doing.
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This is a national security nightmare that we are all living through.
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Speaking of which, here's the true president talking about how well Joe did tonight.
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You heard Joe's heart tonight on the debate stage.
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He wakes up every morning thinking about how he can make the lives of Americans better.
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Imagine right now you're some poor Ukrainian kid who's been pressed into service and you're
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sitting in some muddy ditch right now with Russian artillery and Russian drones raining
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And then you happen to catch if you've got, you know, some kind of Wi-Fi or whatever, some
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image of, oh, these are the Americans and they promised to help us and let's just see
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them on TV and you see this and you say, wait a minute, these are the guys who have our
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Just imagine that it's very, and it's very, and President Trump, at least actually talked
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about the human toll of the Ukraine war, which Joe Biden has been prolonging.
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Joe Biden promised he would prolong this war, even if it meant going into World War three.
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I'm signing your books right now, members.charliekirk.com.
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Blake, what is the chatter that you are seeing amongst the intelligentsia?
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Certainly the ones I am talking to, the big debate is, can they actually force Joe Biden
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They all think they probably should, but can they actually do it?
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And a lot of people, they're going, there was initially, the initial response was, oh
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And then people catch their breath over the next hour while we've been on the air here.
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And they've been saying, you know, Biden could just say, no, you see that rally, you see
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And if Joe and Jill say they're going to stick around, nobody can really like, they can't
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And so that was kind of the initial response, but certainly all the jokes, all the memes, everyone's
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response is, huge Trump victory, huge disaster for the Democrats.
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People who are in the middle are moving towards Trump even faster than they were before.
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I got to name some of these folks here that are getting books.
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And when you are a member, you also get exclusive content.
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I'm going to keep on signing books here tonight as we continue to go.
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Boy, the spin continues for the Democrat Party or they're trying to.
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Yeah, this is a question for Charlie, because you mentioned something before in passing,
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I want to hear you expound on it, that you said the right has never been more united.
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And how was it that Trump was able to accomplish this?
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I think part of it is just because of the threat of the woke and the left.
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I think that Trump being able to consolidate the primary early and decisively shut up a
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And even people that hate Trump, if you get them in private conversations, they're like,
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Like, that's the vibe that I get from even people that don't like Trump.
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Um, so there is kind of this tacit, this guy earns and does has deserved a legit chance
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to not be sideswiped to try to get another term in the Oval Office.
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Um, and so, yeah, by the way, Joe Biden just visited a Waffle House and he says, I think
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These people are like, they're not even looking at him.
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This woman is kind of like, who does this guy think he is?
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By the way, is that Kareem Jean-Pierre's first time at a Waffle House?
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She's, she's like trying to gingerly help him through.
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Like, these are what, well, these are waffles, Joe.
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And they're just, look at how they're just gingerly handling him.
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They're like, we're going to show the world that not only can he do a debate, but he could
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do a post-debate event and also go to Waffle House.
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He looks so, so much older even than six months ago.
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Anyone who's known and you know, a person who's gotten older and has started to lose it, you know
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Here is, here is the race lady, race lady and Chris Hayes or Rachel Maddow.
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By the way, can we appreciate that Donald Trump called Joe Biden a Palestinian?
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And he's like, by the way, we knock on wood where we can find wood.
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It's like his one-liners are just so, he's a legitimately hilarious politician.
02:11:07.620
By the way, they're in a state of denial right now.
02:11:10.620
And how they consolidate this, we're going to see, there's going to be angry people no
02:11:19.620
From the actual debate, which, did you think that after the debate, anybody think that
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we'd be playing debate coverage more than the debate itself?
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Did anyone have that on your bingo card for tonight?
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That we'd be like playing the fallout and the coverage.
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And Jack's instincts, I got to give Jack credit.
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Jack was, I'm glad we didn't take it live, but Jack's instincts were 100% right.
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This, I thought Trump was excellent on the Russian Ukrainian stuff.
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Every time Zelensky comes to this country, he walks away 60 billion.
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If we had a leader in this war, he led everybody along.
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He's given $200 billion now or more to Ukraine.
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I don't think there's ever been anything like it.
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Every time that Zelensky comes to this country, he walks away with $60 billion.
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I thought he, Jack, I thought on all the foreign policy stuff, Afghanistan, Russia, Ukraine,
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He played it just right because there's a lot of people who say we don't like the Ukraine
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We don't agree with what Russia did, but at the same time, we feel like this thing is dragged
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Ukraine has fought a noble fight, but we want to find a way to wind this thing down.
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But also more importantly, why are we under signing and underwriting everything there?
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I think Trump was able in the same way he was able to do, by the way, on Roe v. Wade or
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the aftermath of the loss of Roe v. Wade, that he was able to balance all of those competing
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sides, the political, the financial, maybe the financial, but the political at least
02:12:58.620
and the emotional and the moral to say, I think at this point, it's time to stop the
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killing, which had echoes of what he talked about in 2015 with ending the global war on terror.
02:13:09.620
And being the first Republican to stand in a Republican environment and take the booze of
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That moment was something that Galvin really created the MAGA movement, showed that the
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MAGA movement is something that's pro-America, is anti-war.
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And that's something that Trump is absolutely consistent on.
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Even if you go back to interviews far before he was running for office or even had ideas
02:13:34.620
or designs of running for office, he always talked this way.
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And so coming up, he uses that same lens when it comes to Israel, Gaza.
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And by the way, he has the record on North Korea.
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That's why it's kind of silly to say Donald Trump is going to get us into World War three
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And if I remember correctly, things were a lot better on the world stage than they are
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The Mediate has an article which is, look and sounds ancient.
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Biden's appearance roasted minutes into CNN debate with Trump.
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They didn't give him the State of the Union drugs.
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Or maybe there's limits to what chemistry can accomplish.
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This is, this is Donald Trump saying, I really don't know what he said at the end of that
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That, these kind of little nudges reminding the audience that they're seeing.
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And if there is one organization that the Biden campaign can blame for the fact that
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they lost the debate 67-33, which is mercy rules, is CNN.
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CNN going double set, double shot, not single shot hurt Joe Biden.
02:14:59.620
When Donald Trump was talking, you were looking more at Joe Biden than at Donald Trump.
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On the total initiative relative to what we can do with more border patrol and more
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I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence.
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We had the safest border in the history of our country.
02:15:32.620
And that was one of our, our keys to the debate ahead of time was he can't attack him
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It was so like, I, I really don't know what this guy's talking about.
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And I was like, you have to address crazy, right?
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Like you have to like, when you ignore crazy, you look crazy, but you, you don't want to
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look like you're just mean, which is what they always say.
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The only time Trump almost got off of vibe was about his trial and the golf game.
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When he gets in the specifics, that was way, that was way in my opinion.
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That was only time when it was like, I don't think it was a loss.
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What's the one we mentioned most of the, uh, we mentioned how there's a lot of clips
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And then there's a few clips a week later and maybe one clip from a debate.
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I think that's the correct way of thinking about it.
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What do you, do you think that's the video that?
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Well, first of all, remember people will not remember details of the debate.
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And they, because of the spin at the, the, the correct spin after and the reality of it,
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people will remember, holy crow, Biden is not capable of running this country.
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Now Trump is better on policy and now Trump is better on the person, which he's never better
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I got some texts from people that are like, honestly, Trump deserves points for self-control.
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Because you could see who was holding back and holding back and holding back and, um,
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And so, uh, look, I I'll say this, that the, what, what is the one that lives forever?
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I think that when he says that we're going to beat Medicare or something or that, yeah,
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that, that really confused one, like you'll get, you might even just get a super cut version
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Oh, the mamers are going to have so Biden walking out really slowly.
02:17:26.620
And then that, like that first 10 seconds of him talking and where you realize, Oh,
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and the cover of CNN, Biden's poor showing and Trump's repeated falsehoods.
02:17:35.620
Trump's quip on that would, by the way, the Medicare, it was so fast and it, it was great.
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That contrasted his sharpness with, yeah, he beat Medicare, beat it to death.
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It, it almost sounded like something from a Hollywood movie script, but he did that live.
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He was able to respond, send it right back to him in a way that with Biden up there and
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trying to make this contrast on age, I'm sorry.
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You can see that in the quickness of his replies.
02:18:04.620
You can see that in his, in his high verbal IQ.
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You can see that in the skills that he clearly demonstrated on stage.
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And he, and he did so, as you say, without being nasty.
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And it's just, I don't think it's, it's hard to it.
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They think Trump is Hitler for them to say that somebody who went up against Hitler did
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It's even worse than they're telling you is what I'm saying.
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I think their new spin that we're going to see next week is what can we, what can we cook up?
02:18:33.620
I think the new spin is Trump is such a mastermind that he's manipulating you.
02:18:41.620
Oh, they're, they're, they're, they're going to dig in on some of this, but that's going
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to, that's going to be their entire, uh, I think approach this next week is that, you
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know, you're, you're getting mind controlled by MAGA, a MAGA mind control.
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So I want to just end with, we're going to wrap in a second here.
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I'm still going to sign a couple more books here.
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We have an opportunity to increase voter registration margins to more ballot chasers.
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Now should be the time where we go harder than ever before.
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Tyler victory is more likely, but that only if we do the work.
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And look, and, and, and what comes with this, I mean, we, I've been seeing this everywhere.
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And what concerns me is that we have people that are going to do one of two things coming
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They're going to focus on all the wrong things.
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I mean, we're still in states that have Democrats who are going to try to cover themselves in every
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way possible because they have been playing this, this dangerous game of Russian roulette where
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they've, they've been trying to thump political enemies.
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So you, you have to realize we're, we're still playing against extra extraordinarily evil people,
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You still have really evil people in Nevada and Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania.
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So you got to realize that number two is you're going to have people that are going to sit back and get lazy
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and they're going to go, Oh my gosh, this thing is in the bag.
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Which is don't wear yourself out fighting the evil people who we have eyes on.
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The one thing that they don't want you to do is to get more people out to vote.
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I mean, they're literally running suppression advertisements.
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They're running suppression ads that say Joe or president Trump doesn't want you to
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Why would they spend thousands, tens of thousands of dollars on suppression advertising?
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If it didn't work, why would they put $50 million worth of bodies and ballot jacers in your home state?
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If it didn't work, it is a big piece of the manipulation.
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Is there manipulating low, what we call low IQ, low information.
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Information voters is what Rush used to call them.
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People who just really don't even care about voting.
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It's members.charliekirk.com and keep on signing a couple more books here.
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Jack closing thoughts here as we bring this triumphant night to a conclusion.
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And we go through the marching orders of how we now use this as an accelerant to take back our country in November.
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Look, Charlie, people need to understand that this is going to be the Democrats off the leash.
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They're going to let John, Juan Rashawn off the leash.
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They know that it's six months or, by the way, they're all going to be on the list.
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And Andrew McCabe is up there on CNN whining and complaining.
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And he's telling the truth because he knows that justice is finally coming for them and the things that they've done to the American people.
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You're going to see by the immense pressure on Juan Rashawn to put Trump behind bars or some kind of house arrest thing that's definitely going to happen now on July 11th.
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And so this is what people must prepare for and why you have to steal yourselves for the fight to come.
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That being said, you also have to look, by the way, and I've been saying this all night, escalation on the world front.
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And unfortunately, the number one candidate for that is Russia.
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Look for Biden to try to attempt some, by the way.
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And we just saw America. This was earlier before the debate came out, but breaking news from human events that we have the story up that Biden is now launching an American evacuation from Lebanon because it looks like Israel Hezbollah is about to kick off there.
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So LH, Lebanese Hezbollah and Israel, U.S. troops getting involved again.
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We you're going to be in a situation where they feel so desperate that they have to push some kind of Hail Mary play.
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And that almost certainly, to my mind, will include military activity against one of our adversaries.
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I would remember the winning attitude is you use successes as a drive to seek out more success.
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An accelerant. Yep. Winners work harder because they realize the amount of victory that is now attainable because of what happened tonight.
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It was an awful night for Joe Biden across the board.
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It was a great night for us. But hey, the empire is going to strike back.
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They are not going to give the keys to the White House just because one guy had a bad debate.
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We've been streaming for like four or five hours.
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You get a signed book personalized to you at members.charliekirk.com.
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And Daisy, we have this whole pile of books that we're going to send out that people can't look at that pile of personalized books that we have for you guys.
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You guys can listen to all of our content advertiser free, including content that is only found by being a member.
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We're going to be up early tomorrow, broadcasting, live streaming at our usual time.
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Tonight was a victory, but it's not the big one.
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Those of you that had Donald Trump's back, you are part of the movement and we are up against the machine.
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And the movement must be successful this November.
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It's going to require all of us together to win.