Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - March 15, 2025


THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 76 — Cannibal Democrats? Undead Democrats? VR Prisons?


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 16 minutes

Words per Minute

204.7363

Word Count

15,726

Sentence Count

6

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

In this episode, we discuss the recent swatting incidents targeting conservative influencers and those associated with them. We also discuss the dangers of swatting and how to protect yourself and your family from becoming a victim of these types of incidents.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 from the age of big brother if they want to get you they'll get you dnsa specifically
00:00:09.420 targets the communications of everyone they're collecting your communications
00:00:14.100 okay everybody uh welcome to thought crime thursday we are live is that correct we are
00:00:26.560 live charlie all right so don't anyone say anything you're going to regret we got jack we got tyler
00:00:30.520 we got blake what is our first topic today our first topic tonight charlie uh jack what really
00:00:35.680 wanted us to hit this swattings jack i think you have the details something i actually know
00:00:39.880 can you hear us jack well there's there's been some reports about some some bad actors uh you
00:00:48.480 know going on and uh targeting it seems to be conservative influencers or a group of people
00:00:57.340 um you know sort of associated with conservative politics uh one was is a host at info wars uh
00:01:04.420 chase geithner um this of course comes or geyser this comes on the heels of course of i believe
00:01:10.560 it's a separate incident but of course a horrific murder of a uh an info war staffer a couple
00:01:16.880 of days ago in austin but then also and this is you know kind of new to me i'm just coming to it but
00:01:22.800 sean farash uh gunther edgington and potentially others did people are asking texting me saying hey
00:01:30.120 you guys okay and um my parents people know were swatted um a year ago at christmas time and since then
00:01:39.960 um the individual who did that i was going to pull up the case a second ago i was just looking it up
00:01:45.380 was actually found and extradited to the united states it was actually a foreign case but um you
00:01:53.300 know i guess some this guy thought that thought that he could get away with it but he could not
00:01:58.420 um and so it seems to be there's no this this another round of swattings that's going on
00:02:02.720 right now and and honestly it's it's something where i'll just put it like this this needs to be
00:02:09.100 looked at for what it is uh the reason that these are done is because they want the police to go in
00:02:15.360 their guns blazing they want to generate particularly when you're targeting conservatives a lot of us
00:02:21.340 are gun owners a lot of us are uh strong enthusiasts in exercising our second amendment i know i certainly
00:02:29.400 am and so they want to create a situation uh that could lead to a potential fatal incident or fatal
00:02:37.680 harm so when i look at these swatting incidents they could go sideways very quickly now of course
00:02:43.200 what's great with uh with my situation is that we've been you know very very close with law
00:02:48.020 enforcement our law enforcement has been great in terms of this in terms of their response once you
00:02:52.020 realized what was actually going on but it this needs to be looked at from a federal level and we got
00:02:57.180 cash patel over at the fbi we've got pam bondy at the attorney general's office and and by the way
00:03:03.340 i i've always said this and i've been very clear about this i don't care what side of political eye
00:03:07.760 you're on this is something that at dock this is why doxing is so evil this is why swatting is so evil
00:03:15.100 in general because it can lead to killing it can lead to it can lead to fatal outcomes if someone's
00:03:21.300 not getting knocked at the door they don't know what's going on the you know people do a no knock
00:03:25.580 rage these types of things so sometimes they go they go very smoothly and sometimes they don't
00:03:30.300 and it's happened in the past or you know someone who doesn't know what's going on answers the door
00:03:34.580 all sorts of things can take place so look i i'd say this to anybody though who's you know who's in
00:03:39.960 this situation or if you think you might be in a situation like this make sure you be proactive
00:03:44.280 call local law enforcement get on the books with them find out whoever the local shift uh who you know
00:03:51.140 whoever's running the shift on there and you know tell them hey you know i i might be a potential
00:03:57.100 i might be a potential uh target of this or this might be something that's going on you know try to
00:04:02.460 you know hopefully have some friends in your local community and local law enforcement i know i certainly
00:04:06.280 do and that's something that helped us a lot and there's also by the way i'll say this as well uh there
00:04:11.500 are services out there so a lot of these a lot of these pull from those publicly available databases
00:04:15.640 everybody knows about them where you can look up people's addresses and things like this online
00:04:19.420 well there are actually services that you can get and pay for you know i'm not advertising any here
00:04:24.640 but just go and look into it yourself where you can go and get it and it's it's it's a little bit
00:04:28.900 of money but it's not that much money actually at the end of the day where they can run real-time
00:04:33.280 monitoring and actually get your information pulled down from those websites on a rolling basis and then
00:04:40.120 sometimes like if if it gets leaked somehow or even and it includes by the way other pii like email
00:04:45.940 addresses phone numbers you can get family members on there etc so i get that i pay for that for my
00:04:51.180 family and that's something that's helped us really really well get it down from those those public
00:04:55.400 sites it works great and so yeah i would just highly recommend we had an event we had an event
00:04:59.900 who's worried about this we had an event recently and uh someone came up threatening and literally
00:05:04.760 reading off my home address like threatening us live on air there uh in front of a lot of people so
00:05:08.880 it's a real problem blake how do we solve this because it's a legitimate issue so i'm looking it up now
00:05:13.460 just as an example because we did that case where they extradited some individuals for swatting
00:05:18.160 and they got these two guys a guy from romania and a guy from serbia uh their list of uh of code
00:05:25.040 names that they used for communicate they charged them with conspiracy they charged them with oh wait
00:05:29.920 no that's like that's i think that's the ones who targeted my parents yeah it might be uh they
00:05:34.320 targeted other people okay so it would not have just been then but they had 29 counts of threats and
00:05:39.180 false information regarding explosives and four counts of transmitting threats in interstate and
00:05:44.180 foreign commerce wow and like i imagine if these guys are convicted they could get you know several
00:05:48.760 years in prison but i think the way i think the way you crack this down you crack down on this for good
00:05:53.700 you catch someone you catch someone doing this and you say your goal was to have someone get shot by
00:06:00.220 police we're charging you with attempted murder enjoy 40 years in prison and the federal government
00:06:05.720 should do you do it to one person and after that they are the example where everyone thinks
00:06:09.680 i'm not going to swat someone because my stupid feud on the internet is not worth 40 years in prison
00:06:15.080 i completely agree and that's what it is it is attempted murder tyler what if we take everybody
00:06:21.280 that wants to swap people and we put them in ice and we have them target illegals or what if we made
00:06:29.280 them live training dummies for swat training it well it's just no you just that's getting dark
00:06:35.020 no no you just anybody that wants to you know like send police to someone's house right like in
00:06:43.000 tactical gear why don't just make them a part of it it's just like you know how they like rehabilitate
00:06:48.780 former criminals and sometimes like they put them in intelligence communities like just put them in
00:06:53.240 and then go after go after illegals i i will i will say this too that it seems to be a
00:07:02.000 i'm hearing myself back like four seconds delayed i don't know why are you guys too
00:07:06.960 yeah like faintly um there it seems to be a predominantly uh right like on the right problem
00:07:15.720 i don't know a lot of left people that i think this was bipartisan for a time um and i i just have to
00:07:21.720 compliment the police forces though yeah the police forces praise god they've been going in a lot more
00:07:27.040 restrained and they're getting prepped on this and they are getting uh for example you know where our
00:07:32.500 headquarters is and everyone can figure that out like we've sat down with police and like we're on
00:07:36.800 a list that if there's ever a crisis call like they have to now do kind of like a well like they have
00:07:41.520 to call back and be like is it actually which actually makes things more dangerous when you think like
00:07:46.520 god forbid there was ever a crisis here on the turning point campus now the police are
00:07:51.680 wondering are they going into an actual crisis or is this a prank does that make sense it does i i feel
00:07:56.800 like in real life if that were to happen the benefit we'd have is we have a good number of people here
00:08:01.340 they would get we would get 15 9-1-1 calls in a minute no no we have 45 firearms here exactly
00:08:07.300 oh that also that also we got a lot of weapons the whole tech team there they could uh they could
00:08:12.260 defend taiwan yeah we just call them up we just call them up more like no we don't need police
00:08:16.260 protection weaponry in our tech team have you seen what they got there they got stuff i've even heard of
00:08:20.160 they're packed we just call out the police and we're like yeah we actually don't need your help
00:08:23.140 but we just we do need a cleanup crew here and ryan says just send an ambulance
00:08:27.920 to be clear it only only to take them to the morgue that's the instruction actually to the
00:08:34.160 i actually have a theory about that though charlie about the right versus the left
00:08:38.240 i think the left there's more people that want to hit famous people and the famous people for the
00:08:45.760 most part they have they already have plans like that that you're describing for most of those people
00:08:49.960 they know to call back to double check do all that before they send somebody a lot of the people on
00:08:55.000 the right that are kind of up and comer a lot of influencers and things like that aren't aren't like
00:09:00.220 known celebrities and things like that that haven't come up with those plans with the local law
00:09:05.580 enforcement so i think it's easier for the left to go after kind of right-leaning influencers and
00:09:11.660 and you know our celebs and and do that kind of thing i mean i i think it's repulsive and i think
00:09:16.400 the fbi should get involved i mean i think it's it's an interstate it's almost always interstate it's
00:09:20.580 almost never in the same state is that correct almost never and it's it's a growing it's a growing
00:09:26.200 and and serious major issue i'm looking now and one guy did get 20 years in prison there was a
00:09:31.900 swatting in wichita in 2017 where a man was angry over a beef in the video game call of duty world
00:09:38.680 war ii yeah and so he swatted someone and that got someone killed so he got 20 years it started the
00:09:44.320 games like video games yeah yeah it started with it like you can tell it it's totally a thing that
00:09:48.980 just comes from like losers on the internet basically yeah but there's a lot of losers on
00:09:53.280 the internet who care a lot about politics too and so they do destructive stuff like this but i think
00:09:58.860 yeah the fix is well praise god you are an attempted murderer i think someone has gotten
00:10:02.500 killed via a swat at some there was yeah that's the wichita one um i don't know that a politics
00:10:06.720 one has gotten anyone killed but but i think police so i police forces are getting better and better
00:10:12.260 at receiving these don't you agree like they're not but again i want to just repeat this god forbid
00:10:18.580 that there's an actual hostage situation or an actual crisis like this and they go on not thinking
00:10:24.020 it's real and it is real i mean it's bad for everybody i think it's even worse than attempted
00:10:28.940 murder i think it's an act of terrorism i think that it's bad for the entire community bad for the
00:10:33.660 police force i know that might sound like a exorbitant you know statement but the goal is
00:10:39.700 absolutely to get people killed this is unreal a man in 2020 died of a heart attack like while police
00:10:45.780 were hitting his house and the swatting was done against him in an attempt to force him to give up
00:10:51.000 his twitter handle at tennessee and this is sick stuff sickos out there man they are they are crazy
00:10:59.500 demented individuals but are they as crazy and demented as the next thing we're going to talk
00:11:04.140 about let's go to that let's go to that all righty all right charlie we got this hot off the presses
00:11:08.680 from charlie today this is made just for thought we had we had other topics in mind but charlie was
00:11:13.040 like no we need this is designed for thought this is like no this is not youtube friendly exactly
00:11:17.880 exactly so this is a story out of and of course it's washington state where so what happens is uh
00:11:25.720 the town of linwood washington is that where emma kate is from we should find out uh no it's just
00:11:33.820 it's just a seattle suburb of course anyway so the town of linwood washington is has a city council and
00:11:40.300 they were going to appoint someone to a vacancy i guess it's a town where that can happen and they
00:11:45.360 settled on an individual named jessica ann roberts 32 years old uh and then and they chose jessica ann
00:11:54.480 roberts over a military veteran who was also contending for the post and then after they made
00:11:59.400 the announcement a few people pointed out wait have you guys actually looked up this person or done any
00:12:06.680 sort of background check um you know i think i think i'll just read the headline from the post
00:12:11.620 millennial here breaking washington trans only fans city council appointee rescinds candidacy after
00:12:19.520 cannibal fetish controversy that is a headline i don't think like chat gpt could generate on its own
00:12:26.540 i think that that's one only real life could create so jessica ann roberts was born neil vincent
00:12:32.820 roberts and has a hidden history as a sex worker that includes an uncontrollable desire to impregnate
00:12:40.040 women and then eat them so in other words this guy was just too normal no basically everything
00:12:46.820 was fine up until the cannibalism is that the line i just want to be clear i think that was
00:12:51.000 the democrat party everything was cool the tranny part the only fans thing but the eating and it had
00:12:56.580 to be by the way you have to look at this is disgusting it had to be close because you know
00:13:00.280 the democrats are kind of in favor of eating unborn children so they it was probably that they
00:13:05.400 wanted to eat the mom too absolutely put it over the line for them but yeah we have we have some uh
00:13:10.800 images of uh what they were saying and i believe edited so that they're not super duper horrifying
00:13:17.300 here uh how about we put up uh 176 and then let's see if i can find this here so yeah we have uh let's
00:13:27.840 see so they found all the posts this guy was making on a subreddit which we really need to like
00:13:33.820 quarantine reddit in in some capacity but this is a reddit called slash vore v-o-r-e which i guess
00:13:40.540 is short for carnivore or humivore uh is there actually reddits dedicated towards cannibalism of
00:13:47.360 course there are i'm sure but they did ban the one for supporting donald trump so you know are the
00:13:51.860 donald was awesome for the are the donald it was great it was i got a lot of good content from are
00:13:57.520 the donald's apparently worse than cannibalism i've never been able to i have not been able to find a
00:14:03.280 similar synthesized community of like until our group chat you know until i found so so this is a
00:14:13.600 post so it was the discussion preds predators i think i got a question okay okay so how do you like
00:14:20.660 your prey to react when they go down in and once they're in i assume in your stomach i want to get
00:14:28.000 better just in case i find myself a snack and then i'm not sure if the op is that guy or if this other
00:14:34.660 art is it the other aardvark guy who's who's this one uh i love scoping up random girls and taunting
00:14:41.780 them about how they're going to fuel me how their entire life built up to the moment where i snuff them
00:14:48.420 out and use their fat and nutrients to become stronger very healthy and normal and okay and they're
00:14:56.180 like yeah this guy seems legit let's put him on the city council now admittedly they appear to have
00:15:01.340 not known about this but i've got to admit i feel like there were probably warning signs possibly some
00:15:08.400 sort of visible external sign that this individual was mentally unwell and perhaps in the grips of
00:15:16.320 delusions and insanity of some kind is there anything that could have given away what could have
00:15:23.220 no there must not have been anything there's probably no way to see this coming we can't
00:15:27.780 really blame the city council for this can we jack what is your take on this uh delicious topic
00:15:34.380 get it yeah you know i mean it's like it's like the great line uh they always used to go after trump
00:15:40.700 for this for saying they you know he's talking about illegals but he always used to bring up hannibal
00:15:44.060 lector on the campaign trail saying you know hannibal lector he wants to have you for dinner and that
00:15:48.620 you know talking about the uh the emptying of prisons and he would sort of use this as a
00:15:52.800 as uh you know a sobriquet to explain sort of the insanity that was going on but but charlie you know
00:15:59.440 i think it really goes to show you that when when we talk about the insanity that is perpetuated in the
00:16:07.800 united states today and it makes me think of something we talked about in last year in in our book that
00:16:14.340 we call it we identified called the fried mental model and there's a lot of people out there that
00:16:19.000 just have an absolutely fried mental model of the world um many of them are located in some of these
00:16:24.980 places uh that are are hotbeds of uh of leftism like a lot of the washington area is this is the
00:16:32.140 state of washington so you got seattle up there that's where chas took place uh i i witnessed just
00:16:37.240 just insane levels of depravity and degeneracy when i was there uh but of course you see it all
00:16:43.160 all throughout the pacific northwest and you know these sort of things used to be confined to those
00:16:47.640 areas but now because of the internet and because of tiktok these types of ideas these types of social
00:16:52.520 contagions and these types of ideals are are spread everywhere they're just all over the place and so
00:16:59.500 uh it's it's almost like they sort of have a race to the bottom that's going on because leftist
00:17:03.780 politics actually incentivizes this kind of behavior in certain ways so so that uh in order to be
00:17:10.100 more risque in order to be more taboo against the social order you must push yourself to further and
00:17:16.900 further extreme behaviors and that's exactly what you got because you can't take out the fact right you
00:17:22.680 can't take out the fact only say only fans trans cannibal fetish but also that this uh thing was
00:17:32.820 running for office also views all of that through the political lens so in leftist politics these types
00:17:40.920 of things are inseparable they are inseparable from leftist politics i have a question a feature this is
00:17:48.360 not a bug if you were to argue from a left-wing perspective how what argument could you make that
00:17:55.800 eating human beings is wrong by what standard i actually i don't think you can i mean if if two
00:18:03.680 people love each other very very much and one of them agrees to go into the other's tummy well so so
00:18:09.440 let's just kind of play out with all the kind of one-liners i hear on campus well charlie it doesn't
00:18:13.240 doesn't impact you well they say cause of suffering what if the person's already dead what if you go to
00:18:17.080 a morgue and you strike a deal and you're like i'm just gonna take you know a leg a week just could
00:18:25.920 be deceased you know what why under the leftist worldview is that wrong you got me no i mean this
00:18:35.680 not sorry of course we as conservatives think the body is sacred and it's disgusting and wrong and
00:18:41.120 repulsive and evil to consume a fellow human being otherwise besides all the other legal i'm
00:18:47.040 saying from morally what is the left-wing objection to cannibalism to go even further like i don't
00:18:52.580 think they could even articulate that like the fact that a person wants to like that someone would
00:18:58.860 have this fetish that they want to eat someone that this indicates something is wrong with them
00:19:03.260 when it clearly does i mean there's all sorts of stuff like even his public like he oh oh this i guess
00:19:09.720 is his only fans account jessica had an only fans account a bisexual trans woman with itty bitty and a
00:19:16.020 big girl are the donald is back by the way oh is it it says ask the donald it's not the same
00:19:21.700 so they have patriots win is like a separate website they set up forget it um but yeah and
00:19:28.920 like it's just oh and of course this guy oh this wasn't even highlighted in the article he's also
00:19:32.820 basically like pedo adjacent i love the type of prey that knows their purpose in life but is too scared
00:19:38.820 to actually be eaten so they fight back even though they know they're only going to turn into fat before
00:19:44.600 they're disposed of personally i enjoy being a professor teacher or babysitter who reluctantly
00:19:52.880 disciplines the children this person should be locked up by eating them i guess yes they've been
00:19:59.640 that's this handsome and gretel thing but to charlie's point that i mean this is the this is what's
00:20:04.400 happened the creep i mean it's literally on all their flags now like just add just add the the
00:20:11.400 cannibalism to it now at this point like these people are absolute freaks they're mentally ill
00:20:16.340 there's no difference and you can see even in that like to what you just read there's this weirdo
00:20:22.620 crossover between all this stuff that they've tried to normalize into literally murder and cannibalism
00:20:29.900 i mean they're talking about murder that's what they're talking about constant like in every single
00:20:35.520 one of those posts do you think that there is a do you think there are many non-tranny uh cannibals
00:20:41.460 i only know of one other case of the cannibal community what percentage are trannies it's gotta
00:20:48.500 be higher no hannibal had some weird sexual stuff though was he was he tranny are we talking about
00:20:53.740 silence the lambs no no no no the buffalo bill had the weird sexual stuff no they did dress up yeah
00:21:00.720 no no i think that there might be a there's almost a one-to-one here yeah i'm not saying all
00:21:05.480 trainees are cannibals i'm asking the question are all cannibals trans so now i'm now i'm looking up
00:21:10.200 the only other major cannibalism case i know there was a guy in germany who 25 years ago like put up an
00:21:16.660 ad on craig's list that was basically like i want to eat somebody and i'm looking for a volunteer
00:21:21.660 and a guy answered it and went to his house and was killed and eaten and the man is currently in prison
00:21:28.580 so i'm trying to find out if he had any other you know tells as it were dommer dommer was for sure
00:21:34.800 in today's society wouldn't wouldn't have been gay he would have been trans i'm i think i'm onto
00:21:39.980 something here no for sure i'm trying to think of the movie what's the movie where something happens
00:21:44.060 oh it was uh one of the adam sandler movies and uh uh what's his face the actor kills somebody or he's
00:21:52.780 like he's got a list from high school remember he puts on the the lipstick i haven't seen steve
00:21:57.720 so it's not quite cannibalism but it's but it's murder murderous weirdo traits where he's he's
00:22:09.040 you know you have that crossover so i i think charlie's right deep down every single cannibal
00:22:13.500 cannibal is probably trans i'm just i we don't have a lot to go off of the cannibal community
00:22:20.400 is not yet we're gonna have cannibal rights i am curious that at the dnc
00:22:27.460 2028 when they when they nominate just like ai i think that's what they're gonna do by the way
00:22:34.580 i think it's ai 2020 i think they're going to nominate an algorithm i'm not kidding
00:22:38.000 i think i don't i don't want to be me charlie but i feel like we're probably closer to like
00:22:42.800 do you think if they made a perfectly they if they came out and they're like this ai
00:22:46.100 perfectly replicates donald trump like quite a few people would probably want to vote for that i
00:22:50.500 wouldn't what i am saying though is that if they even entertained pete buddha judge
00:22:53.680 they would totally vote for an algorithm that's fair that's okay pete buddha judge is a man who
00:22:58.140 when he is like 16 years old he made the list of like everything he had to do to become president
00:23:02.640 and he's been sociopathically executing it ever since the fact that he's even entertained as a
00:23:07.000 serious contender is like that's like sam he like sam altman created him yes yeah i think like sam
00:23:12.600 altman's first project was pete buddha judge then he did open ai yeah anyway and then he did this guy
00:23:17.760 yes evidently uh so the i guess at the democrat 2028 when they say you know open ai 2028 will we
00:23:27.480 have a cannibal rights section on the floor i mean i feel like they should i feel like that would only
00:23:32.100 be fair but who are we to judge their dietary yeah exactly like it's just it's by the way it would it
00:23:37.320 would help with the depopulation the population problem it would it would save space in cemeteries
00:23:42.840 it would it would really increase the amount of utility in the world utilitarianly like we should
00:23:48.500 in fact mandate cannibalism so every cannibal deep down is a tranny and a democrat you know it's like
00:23:53.920 recycling you know i think well yeah i mean so but if your whole goal is about saving the environment
00:23:59.680 to blake's point look at all that protein and nutrients that otherwise could be going to nourish
00:24:04.140 this would have to be the most moral type of meat out there but think about it if we want it if we
00:24:08.620 want to no longer have carbon emissions because of farting cows or because of all the industrial
00:24:13.040 farming you know there's millions of people that die in america every single year that could feed
00:24:18.240 starving children so are they green partners um have you heard of blake have you ever heard of the uh
00:24:23.900 the sort of like um the the scientific idea of like a generation ship like a like a generation
00:24:30.320 spaceship oh yeah yeah yeah so i've read some theories about that where in a generation
00:24:38.360 so guys that means like a like you know the possibility for interstellar travel but you know
00:24:43.120 because it takes so long to travel there at sublight speeds um that you would have multiple
00:24:47.360 generations of families living on this ship before it gets from one planet to the other
00:24:51.820 and that one of the potential uses for the older generation that dies would then be for their bodies and
00:24:58.740 protein to go into like either uh you know creating like a biosphere type thing on the ship or go into some
00:25:06.580 sort of like hydroponic thing or be able to use in the ship's energy etc it's kind of like a matrix
00:25:11.800 sort of thing i don't know it's just it's just something so but but all kidding aside we'll get to
00:25:16.620 the next segment in the christian tradition we believe the body is sacred and that's why we believe
00:25:22.900 christ actually took human flesh we believe we're actually going to be resurrected again one day
00:25:27.120 that the human body should not be trivialized that there's something special about it that you were
00:25:32.120 made in the image of god not in the image of the big whopper that's right but as we become less
00:25:40.120 christian i'm telling you cannibalism very well might pop up again i knew we could all joke about
00:25:45.580 it but the sarcasm actually is laced in i want a liberal to come on and tell me by the liberal
00:25:51.380 standard what is the argument against cannibalism i should like we we might need to have our first like
00:25:57.760 liberal on thought crime just to like probe this question we should find a lot of questions we
00:26:01.700 should find that we can't say more about it we should find that guy who was at university of
00:26:06.520 tennessee today oh no you can't you can't you can't spoil i won't spoil anything no no no that one
00:26:11.340 got teed that was off that was that boy everyone should subscribe to all of our appropriate channels
00:26:15.500 jack jack you are gonna love this one this one has the opportunity i'm not i don't want to be too
00:26:21.960 has the opportunity to be one of those viral things i've ever done that's all i'm gonna say i think i think it
00:26:26.680 will okay we'll need to do that charlie hey blake based on what you heard it's pretty juicy right
00:26:33.200 it sounded pretty amazing to me all right i've got to say that next segment all right next thing this
00:26:38.360 this is kind of a wild card one but this is going viral this week and it's kind of a funny thing so
00:26:45.420 you know uh you know courtesy you know courtesy arvin we've had him on the show before one of his uh fun
00:26:50.420 ideas is he said like you know we're gonna punish criminals and we're gonna punish them by putting
00:26:53.920 them in virtual reality prison so we have much better virtual reality tech now we get those
00:26:59.580 goggles you can put on and you can go to the facebook magical world and hang out with people
00:27:03.600 do people do that by the way is that like a thing it is a thing i've never done how is that like
00:27:07.880 different than like age i mean whatever the thing well it wasn't super successful but what was that
00:27:13.680 game i used to play age of empires no no i'll think of it keep keep talking but anyway so
00:27:19.780 it's more and more runescape oh runescape yeah is that still around yes it is yes it is
00:27:26.020 it will never die i'm sorry keep interrupting someone remember there's still people who play
00:27:30.040 world of warcraft like eight out you know i know that still exists well the original you go way way
00:27:35.340 back you go to the original warcraft and starcraft well those are those are strategy but anyway so
00:27:40.600 this is all teeing up that there are prisons in uh in the i believe in california that like they
00:27:47.980 have a thing in the central california women's facility they're doing this but there are there's
00:27:51.780 reports now they have prisons where they're giving inmates access to virtual reality gear and they can
00:27:58.720 use this to like go outside the prison basically and according to the reporting that is coming out
00:28:05.900 offenses by these prisoners have gone down 96 percent and so is is the vr is virtual reality prison our
00:28:16.700 future and if it is like is that a good thing because it seems like they might be having a
00:28:20.700 good time with it and i don't know that we want to reward anders breivik or the cannibal guy with like
00:28:25.680 you know lifelong fun times in vr for for being for being bad dudes but if it helps with rehabilitation
00:28:34.000 it's a choice one way or the other would you go to vr prison so let me be let me what what is
00:28:41.520 actually on their vr so the description in this article that i'm looking at in the guardian that
00:28:46.380 came out a few days ago is this woman is in a women's prison in california but it says two and a
00:28:52.760 half years into a five-year prison sentence uh this woman uh was about uh samantha tovar was about to
00:28:59.100 see thailand for the first time and so she puts it on and she basically goes on like a virtual tour
00:29:04.300 of stuff in thailand i've used these virtual reality things i don't think they're that good
00:29:08.260 yeah i mean i have you seen the tech is not there yet i used i might make it better but i've used
00:29:13.340 them once and it was at the hillary clinton's dnc in 2016 facebook was there okay yeah so it's gotten
00:29:19.900 better since nine years ago have you seen the sporting ones the sporting events so now they've
00:29:25.740 got this this whole thing where you can put on the vr and you're like on the sidelines sitting i know
00:29:31.240 but is it any good yeah it looks really nice is it really yeah yeah and they've got this whole
00:29:35.560 actually they've got this whole restaurant in california now where it's like a vr restaurant
00:29:39.620 where it's like a big screen you're inside it and you feel like you're in the stadium
00:29:42.700 no that's different i i know but i like that but but the the goggle thing bothers me well i think you've
00:29:49.240 i think after a while you feel the goggle you know and it's like you i don't think your mind can
00:29:54.000 get past the fact that you're wearing something that's on top of yourself i i at least here's where
00:29:59.900 somebody once told recently they said my my relative my uncle whatever works all day gets
00:30:07.040 home and just puts on his goggles and spends four hours i think that's like deeply unhealthy
00:30:11.180 oh i started this started coming up because i started watching this there's some weirdo
00:30:16.180 i don't i want to get off the trans thing but there's like a the furry community has all moved
00:30:21.920 onto vr oh dear really i saw this and it has to be there has to be like a pipeline from people
00:30:28.060 who are furries to there's a there's some there's some like if you think you're a type if you're
00:30:32.360 like i like to pretend i'm a tiger that tigers ain't that's what i'm talking about that's what
00:30:37.100 they're doing i think that's exactly right so we should put all mentally ill people i i think it's
00:30:42.100 let's talk about forget jail mentally ill people should all be on vr doing mentally ill stuff well
00:30:48.460 that i mean that gets back to the bigger thing you know it's like this guy well this guy's a
00:30:51.480 cannibal fetishist like would it be okay to make an extremely detailed vr simulation of him like
00:30:56.500 eating probably not those kids like probably not that's why i guess what the question is what is
00:31:01.680 the purpose of prison is it to punish or to distract well the truth is it's kind of all of
00:31:07.160 this it's partly to punish it's partly to rehabilitate it's partly just to protect the
00:31:11.140 public from future crimes yeah i mean so if it's all about protection prison is such a joke now these
00:31:15.320 prisoners get video games like all day long yeah but bannon said his experience wasn't that good jack
00:31:20.660 i don't think he had video games and sports so i don't know every prison is different right jack
00:31:26.560 i mean if he did have video games i don't i don't think he'd be playing them i mean look you know it
00:31:31.640 also depends on where you're at there's different places uh peter navarro uh dr navarro was in sort
00:31:37.440 of a work camp situation um it depends on who you're in with i mean look prison is prison like i'm not
00:31:43.480 gonna i'm not gonna say that it's not you know not a you know uh you know something that it isn't
00:31:49.080 right you know it's not um this this this
00:31:52.040 coddled you know college atmosphere collegiate atmosphere or something like that like a community
00:31:57.860 college or a dorm or something but at the at the idea though is that there's way too look i'll talk
00:32:03.940 about what i know about so when i was i served a year about uh you're at guantanamo bay and that's
00:32:08.820 based off of the federal correctional institutes and we had we had some areas there we had some areas
00:32:14.200 there where they had like apartments with uh with kitchens um no that was for like extremely good
00:32:20.080 behavior but yeah you could have like an apartment and a kitchen you could like cook your own food and
00:32:24.740 like a single apartment and you could like walk around even it was amazing so like are you in favor
00:32:31.300 of vr headsets for problem children man it's going i'm not entirely sure i so for example like i've never
00:32:39.420 used a vr headset for you know like i've played video games even though i know you you don't care
00:32:45.060 for them but like i won't play them with a headset because to me there's something fundamentally off
00:32:50.000 about like being totally dead to the world that way like you're jumping fully into it and you're
00:32:55.500 disengaging from reality to me that is a step up from just like oh i'm holding a controller on the
00:33:01.740 couch very different and there's something but it's going to be a bigger and bigger question because
00:33:06.600 the tech for this is only going to get better overall and as one of you said like ai is going
00:33:12.060 to increase its potential a lot because you can use that to auto fill in all the details in it so
00:33:17.260 it's going to get more and more realistic and there's going to be people who spend more and more of their
00:33:21.280 time in it and you know i guess i have to say like it feels like this is probably one of the best use
00:33:28.540 cases for it is someone in prison and it has been pointed out that prison can be bad enough it makes a lot
00:33:35.220 of people worse they kind of go nuts there and if you can use vr to make them relatively more normal
00:33:42.000 or more sedate it's probably not the worst use case for it and it might even be cheaper than is it is
00:33:47.460 it immoral um to basically in the in the water supply to put estrogenic material in a men's prison
00:33:54.920 it feels like it probably would be yet i mean it would make them less violent it would make them
00:34:03.780 more compliant it would make them like less likely to kill each other i i'm more old-fashioned i feel
00:34:09.620 like if someone has done a crime where you think that's worth doing to them you should just snip snip
00:34:13.700 so let's put the estrogen example aside should we if a prisoner wants muscle relaxers on a daily basis
00:34:22.460 should we give them that for the purposes of i mean how is it different than a vr headset
00:34:27.620 i'm not sure
00:34:34.660 as you say it's like what do we use prison for that's what i'm saying i mean like if the goal
00:34:41.000 is just to protect the public and you know they're not learning helpful skills just give
00:34:46.880 them a bunch of valiums and muscle relaxers and there's some people that would want to just do
00:34:52.780 that i mean there's the problem is is then you're enticing people to want to go to prison which is
00:34:59.500 the whole argument against those things in the first place well yeah and so then all of a sudden
00:35:02.780 it's like yeah prison's not that bad prison is just really like a lifetime stint in a uh in like
00:35:07.820 a web cafe but basically every 55 year old man that gets divorced later in life would be like
00:35:13.440 i'm just gonna go to prison just sell this thing out for the next 20 years yeah yeah i mean that's
00:35:18.880 definitely i mean there's a huge amount of population that exists of like homeless people
00:35:24.480 and just down in the dumps people and then you get to the other argument is you know is that better
00:35:31.760 than someone doing something drastic yeah i mean institutional but that's why everyone
00:35:38.780 people got institutionalized for this stuff well i mean we should bring asylums back without i mean
00:35:43.420 this whole anti-asylum movement has been a disaster i mean hotel california reopen it that's the difference
00:35:49.820 between institute institutionalization versus prison is there's people that you know probably should be
00:35:58.120 in that realm because that's basically what they did was just hop them up and you know kept them
00:36:04.820 alive it's very funny reading one of the quotes in this guardian article uh is this person who says
00:36:10.740 it's a this ortega guy was you uh using the headset and was visiting like was viewing the eiffel tower
00:36:17.580 basically a transformative scene for ortega was sitting around the eiffel tower you see tourists
00:36:22.600 regular people going to and from work he said and that's when it hit me i want to live life like
00:36:28.580 that i deserve it i owe it to myself on the one hand it's good he reached this realization he
00:36:34.480 shouldn't do crime on the other hand i feel like he was able to see people doing things like that
00:36:40.740 in real life and that and apparently that didn't make the impression on him he had to do it
00:36:45.780 in the vr video game to actually experience this there's something very bizarre about that what what if
00:36:51.680 you what if you use the headsets but you had to force them to do just educational stuff like go
00:36:56.580 through museums or like do extremely tedious stuff yeah like you have to mow a lawn that like the grass
00:37:02.660 grows back instantly you have to pull weeds endlessly do it if they do everything your mop vacuum pull weeds
00:37:09.860 admittedly if we think vr is wrong might be not great even if it's nice it's probably really wrong to
00:37:15.660 use vr to torture people take out the trash can every week i i think what we should do
00:37:22.060 is we should go test out the new vr stuff i think that's what we should do i think a thought crime
00:37:27.100 episode we should do that thought crime in vr that's exactly right we could we could i wonder
00:37:31.780 if i'm gonna i'm gonna get us some good stuff we should find out i'm gonna get all the meta stuff
00:37:35.180 for us oh yeah that's that's a good idea we have to we have to ride the wave of us being able to do
00:37:38.960 that as long as we can we could have an episode where people could actually vr into the show i
00:37:43.880 don't know if this is super popular yeah we could like do a vr where like the audience is there if
00:37:47.240 they're all in vr things and i just i i mean i don't i i'm not i'm not a believer that vr's i mean
00:37:55.380 i'm looking at the meta website right now and i'm the technology looks pretty impressive at the same
00:38:00.720 time i look at the i mean look at this this looks like indecipherable than like a 2006 video game
00:38:06.100 or or like a bad a lot of them are bad i bought i'm saying i bought i bought brooks for christmas
00:38:11.700 it was a couple years ago but i bought him a meta headset whatever it was called before that that
00:38:16.680 was the palmer thing oculus oculus i bought an oculus and the games were so unplayable
00:38:23.700 oh oh dear you see if we were in vr that wouldn't have happened so they it was so unplayable and it
00:38:31.040 was just like it was like boxy it looked like it was like lily nintendo 64 i'm like this is
00:38:35.380 why would you why did you play it kind of feels like the wii do you got is the wii still around
00:38:40.780 uh i mean it exists but they went out of production why the wii was really popular well because
00:38:47.100 technology advances charlie evidently it doesn't now kids have their nintendo switches can we put
00:38:52.300 this up on screen can we put this screenshot i just said first of all this has got all the dei
00:38:56.560 stuff all over but whatever so let's put this up it's called the super rumble dei those are just
00:39:01.940 like people who aren't white come on it's on the front page of the website i mean come on
00:39:07.000 whatever you and i both know what's cool so it's called the super rumble or super crumble or super
00:39:16.140 dumble there's probably super rumble yeah yeah i i'm trying to there was one game like the the
00:39:22.560 funnest game that they had on vr were the dumb ones and there was like a lightsaber game yeah they did
00:39:27.180 star wars vr no no not that was nintendo wii with that little no it was like it was like that but
00:39:32.600 you you went through it was like uh fruit ninja kind of with lightsabers we brought church to the
00:39:38.400 metaverse oh dear i don't want to know the theology of that church like guarantee guarantee you it's a
00:39:44.460 little shaky yeah you know and when jesus said you know i am the vine he meant the vines that were on
00:39:54.140 twitter back in the day i do think that vr is cool for things that where you can't be somewhere so like
00:39:59.860 so for example if you're across the world or across the country and you're really old you can't get to
00:40:05.000 your kid's baptism or you're or like some like play recital or something the future of that is like
00:40:11.440 grandpa can put on a headset and feel like he's there i think that's cool i just don't think we're
00:40:16.420 there yet right like that doesn't exist i think they were trying to sell that i they were trying
00:40:21.600 to sell that on tv i think it was a commercial i'm not a believer yet in the technology so we'll see
00:40:26.340 what happens all right next topic all right wait what is our next topic so crap i just forgot uh
00:40:32.080 save me angelo what was our next topic no no no there was daylight savings but there was another
00:40:36.720 love is blind we wanted to know i want yeah no this is an important one yes so
00:40:41.160 i i've never first of all i i have to really plead ignorance do people watch this millions of
00:40:46.020 people with this is incredibly popular goggles on oh i don't know about goggles why would they not
00:40:52.060 watch it with vr i mean vr about goggles are expensive charlie so love is not blind everyone
00:40:57.180 took out not everyone took out by the way imagine the mark they should hire me they should not it
00:41:01.460 should not be called love is blind it should be called love is vr and they would sell like five
00:41:05.540 million of these things okay so this was just to remind daisy says hold on she says i watched every
00:41:12.640 season except this one and i repent of my sins i've never even heard of this my wife my wife has
00:41:17.700 been watching this i was the first season of this around covid time i remember it when i was this on
00:41:22.860 netflix i believe so yeah it's on netflix it's on netflix what how does this show work it i can
00:41:29.320 explain it please real simple you've watched it you have and i've i've had to watch it because i'm
00:41:33.680 like i had no choice i'm trying to follow the storylines trying to follow the storylines i have
00:41:39.920 to admit it trash tv is like you know it just goes we'll get there we're gonna but you have two people
00:41:45.920 that they are you have two groups of men and women and they're in separate parts of the house
00:41:52.340 and they have to go into rooms and communicate each other with each other through walls so they can't
00:41:58.060 see each other and so they have to pick uh a match based off of their conversations and so
00:42:03.720 they normally talk to a handful of people before they pick the person so it's like a death match
00:42:08.420 look at this this looks so dystopian it's basically like look it's in an octagon and everything it's
00:42:13.820 like a sick uh twist on what what was that old show called where it was like match game or whatever
00:42:20.240 or the one that jeffrey dahmer went on or whatever are we back to the cannibal no but but he went on
00:42:26.460 this thing how many shows about cannibals do you watch no there this is like a thing some maybe
00:42:31.080 it wasn't jeffrey dahmer he's known about the furries he's known about donner they're going
00:42:35.620 out yeah but this happens to be a crossover it's like one of those sick games where you don't see
00:42:40.400 the person and you have to ask questions but they do it for like days yes and then they decide to get
00:42:46.400 married right away so you're in the pod for a long time and you just talk to people it's like a
00:42:50.560 telephone call more or less yeah i think that do they type or it's no it's voice oh hey being
00:42:56.340 love is blind is yes yeah so the idea is they interact only by voice and then they can send each
00:43:02.180 other stuff to infinity with people they can send each other notes and stuff and gifs but like they
00:43:07.380 can't send each other instagram handles or anything no i don't think they i don't think they
00:43:11.280 have phones i could be wrong i'm gonna get like blasted by girls okay so there is a little bit
00:43:16.400 i've got to give them credit there's some creativity here it's not just okay it's still
00:43:20.060 a complete waste of time but we're getting closer to some redemptive value it's interesting for the
00:43:25.100 viewer because you can always tell when somebody's not going to be a good match but they think they're
00:43:29.660 a good match so and then you waste 45 minutes watching and then they're like oh yeah and then
00:43:34.620 you're like you're like oh i can't wait for them to meet because they're going to hate each other
00:43:37.780 when they meet can i of course love's not blind who came up with this stupid idea yeah it's extremely
00:43:42.140 dumb okay but it's anyway okay so i feel it's important to remind people st paul said you
00:43:47.620 should only get married if you have like the overwhelming hots for somebody this last season
00:43:51.040 i agree there was a solomon it's better to marry than to burn there was a guy who like look you know
00:43:55.980 you just knew he wasn't gonna like the girl and he saw the girl and he's like he's he's just trying
00:43:59.420 to get out of it then because he like committed to marrying her and so after he saw he's like you
00:44:03.980 could just tell he's like trying to find a way but he spent like five episodes trying to get out
00:44:08.600 of it yeah okay so so so so they stay they talk and then they they commit to marriage
00:44:15.820 yeah marriage without seeing the other one yes yeah oh yeah so what happens if she's like a horse
00:44:24.260 that's what i'm saying the guy showed up and he's like i don't know if i really like below my standards
00:44:28.960 and then he's trying to get out of it from that point okay because then they have to go live together
00:44:32.760 this is incredible daisy just sent this to me i just want to read it quick they aren't supposed to
00:44:37.060 talk about appearance but one season a guy asked a girl if hypothetically we met at a music festival
00:44:42.820 would i be able to put you on my shoulders that's smart that's smart but you can't ask height or weight
00:44:49.200 you're not supposed to ask about or like race either i think you have to you have to guess by
00:44:52.820 their intonation got it so their nasal so so let me understand so then the uh the the the moment that
00:45:03.360 we saw that went viral with liberal becky yeah was they never saw each other before that moment
00:45:11.420 do they do they only meet at the altar or do they meet in like the days is there a pre-meeting
00:45:16.840 there's like a daisy says no wrong there's a says i'm typing oh so they meet one time before there's a
00:45:22.680 room where they meet and i think they can propose at that exact moment they can meet if they get
00:45:27.560 engaged they don't have to get engaged i think they just have to so the engagement allows them
00:45:33.760 to meet the person they're going to marry do some people call off the engagement oh yeah they meet
00:45:38.500 them oh yeah probably a majority and then they go on a trip together for a week or so yeah and they
00:45:43.480 have to like live together which is yeah also yeah of course yeah so then they basically live
00:45:47.840 together for a few weeks okay so then what we saw and then um they they date in person for six
00:45:54.840 weeks until they get married i just read that andrew daisy's daisy is the uh pop culture person
00:46:00.000 so then at the altar they decide what they just they whether to get married if they're gonna go
00:46:05.640 hang out let me understand this so in this before we get into the clip these two people invited their
00:46:09.880 entire families on camera to like have this public humiliation ritual based on something that might
00:46:16.880 not happen i think they all they're sick i think they all have to meet the families no but like
00:46:21.780 they invite them to the wedding that may or may not happen yeah and all these people like yeah we
00:46:26.200 might be on camera and in front of like 100 million people well a lot of these families meet them
00:46:31.560 beforehand so like during the time that they're hanging out before they get married like some of
00:46:35.360 the families get like overly involved so like really know a lot about a sibling will like hey i know
00:46:42.140 this one specific couple because it was hilarious watching this guy see this girl and you could tell
00:46:47.680 like he's really into really into it and they met and he's like oh that's not my i'm just amazed
00:46:53.240 people still watch tv the big the big picture here which has to be brought up is are people who watch
00:46:59.820 reality tv humans it's trash tv this is 100 we gotta get to the because we're we're crescendoing to
00:47:07.240 the cliff okay we're building it's it's like this is we're it's an orchestra okay bum bum bum bum bum like
00:47:13.120 it's we're building okay okay okay like we're flying down the trench towards i guarantee you most
00:47:17.580 of our audience have never heard of this stupid thing before okay i guarantee you they have
00:47:20.780 a lot of our audience has taken hillsdale online courses okay we have an enlightened little remnant
00:47:26.620 of american society they're just gonna read classic literature pray the rosary i'm telling you right
00:47:31.260 now a little remnant they're studying aristotle when half of the other audiences all right all right
00:47:37.480 tell us chat have you watched love is blind or at least heard of love is blind if you ever heard of
00:47:42.580 the show email me freedom at charliekirk.com can i just oh my gosh and if so you should be taxed
00:47:47.720 you're gonna have somebody you guys are like never no i have it no but i want to make a pitch though
00:47:53.180 to defend the people who have including myself that have been on the show or no there's just not very
00:47:58.940 much good tv left like netflix is a barren waste so this is great so we turn to this because it's
00:48:04.340 awesome they're cheap they just all they do is cheap stuff i have like that i use netflix i used it for
00:48:09.760 one thing and then it got unuseful for seinfeld seinfeld reruns yeah and they got i think they
00:48:14.080 still have it i i bought them all during covid and then i gotta watch them hulu has fraser now
00:48:19.360 oh yeah so i got hulu for fraser and seinfeld for netflix and everything else is netflix can we just
00:48:25.460 pause how awful netflix has become last five years it's not you guys should cancel the subscription if
00:48:30.560 you're watching this crap it's such a waste have you canceled there's no because i'm fine and i like
00:48:37.040 seinfeld for me by the way i don't i don't want people to complain about their financial situation
00:48:41.100 which i'm not i'm very blessed if you're paying for netflix i don't pay for a single subscription
00:48:46.060 service for the record i also used it to watch the thanksgiving football game of which they did a
00:48:51.660 terrible job promoting there is no way you don't have a single subscription i mean well i mean i have
00:48:56.720 like my power bill but like i don't have a streaming service i don't have i don't have a spot i don't
00:49:02.220 have spotify i do not not have a single subscription like what like power is not a subscription i'm
00:49:10.360 gonna make you download whatever that app is like we no free ads here for that uh no like what i
00:49:16.080 don't have i don't have ads in netflix now i don't have amazon prime there's an app that looks up
00:49:20.380 all your subscriptions you don't have spotify i don't have see i have all of these uh i'm like i
00:49:25.820 don't have any tv i have a million i don't have like i got i don't have microsoft i got fubu i
00:49:31.540 don't have microsoft gaming i don't have any other video game ones i got netflix i got amazon i got
00:49:37.300 youtube tv i've made a bunch of people a lot of money i don't have like i'm not in like dollar
00:49:41.140 shave club or whatever that stuff is where they like send you a razor every month um oh i've got
00:49:46.340 like amazon kindle i'm not on i don't have kindle i don't have audible brooks is on xbox i've got
00:49:53.140 serious xm i'm with andrew i hate not wanting to watch a sporting event and not having it i
00:49:58.780 and then that's why i peacock i get these emails from peacock i don't care about peacock but the
00:50:03.360 peacock takes the big time which is now oregon it's the whole thing's all the complicated prime
00:50:07.100 v i will i will say prime video is good i agree prime is great you know why i like prime i could
00:50:12.100 purchase movies i want to watch yeah and you keep them forever the best of all is youtube tv
00:50:16.400 youtube tv is the best yeah it's objectively for live tv it has great coverage okay so back to the love
00:50:22.040 is blind i can't believe you don't have a subscription i i i don't think that's crazy
00:50:25.560 you don't have a magazine subscription that's like cannibalism i read magazines are you a cannibal
00:50:30.300 i'm like i'm not subscribed to like any like online websites which is why i always have to figure
00:50:35.120 out how to get around people's paywalls why do you even have an email not gaming what what do you
00:50:38.940 have an email i always watch you get any spam that's a subscription that's not a no it's not
00:50:43.540 free that's free do you have tsa pre nope why would i need tsa pre check that one i almost got
00:50:50.540 them that one is a subscription what about uber i don't what about uber plus no uber eats i take
00:50:56.420 uber like only for turning point times where i have to fly and get to the airport and like that's it
00:50:59.800 uber eats i don't i don't think i've had i don't think i've gotten a meal delivered by uber eats or
00:51:04.920 doordash since i came to arizona i've been here two years like has turning point eats it's a lot
00:51:10.320 better yeah it's way better it's way better crazy i can't believe this is this is how this is how
00:51:15.080 one amasses capital as a millennial they avoid the eight million different millennial like consumption
00:51:20.720 taxes all right that that's my that's me so speaking of the show i am trying to send so then
00:51:25.440 let's play this piece of tape so let me understand so the all culminates with liberal woman and beta
00:51:32.720 male dude kind of on the altar in this incredibly viral clip let's play the longer clip and keep all
00:51:41.120 of us live guys let's play it i love you so much
00:51:45.860 but i've always wanted a partner to be on the same wavelength
00:51:53.600 and so today i can't
00:51:57.180 at the music boom i love you so much and i want to stay with you and keep growing our relationship
00:52:05.400 if you like we'll see
00:52:09.340 all of america no no we got to keep playing it no no that's not even there's a couple more clips
00:52:15.580 yeah by the way i would have told her to get out of here and yeah cash my check from love is blind
00:52:19.920 and go away all of america lost total respect for this dude he just looked like such apparently they
00:52:24.420 continue to date for weeks after this even like she was like i can't get married now but like they
00:52:29.620 kept dating which daisy informs us of because she's a watcher of love is blind okay
00:52:35.220 do we have the kicker where she's sitting around her liberal relatives in the car yeah so they asked
00:52:41.300 him to like what his church's views are and he said he didn't know and so then i watched a sermon
00:52:51.320 online from his church about yeah sexual identity okay and it was traditional i told that oh my god
00:52:59.800 then and he said he doesn't really have much to say about it you know and lots of them to think
00:53:06.640 about that stuff sometimes i did wonder if it was surface fun carefree love that we had equality
00:53:14.580 religion um the vaccine
00:53:18.520 the vaccine the vaccine the vaccine of course the vaccine so i've commented on this extensively
00:53:26.520 the guy is at fault here for a not standing up for himself be not leaving her jack i know you're an
00:53:33.240 avid love is blind fan what is your oh yeah yeah take on an episode
00:53:37.720 yeah no i mean look this this kind of goes back to you know funny enough like it goes back to what i
00:53:47.500 was saying in the other segment where we've just got too many people in this country that have this
00:53:52.040 fried mental model that are like over socialized uh people are way too invested in politics into their
00:53:59.300 personal lives uh they they bring these things out and they bring these things up as if it's some kind
00:54:05.000 of like deep-seated um commitment to them and and and look you know i i certainly want you know people
00:54:11.560 to understand what's going on in their country but the idea that you're gonna run your entire life over
00:54:16.640 what someone's views on like elm are or or some you know some kind of like like and if you're just
00:54:23.700 like some normie like that's that's not actually a good situation for the country right like we don't
00:54:28.540 want to be so over politicized we want people to be getting married and having kids and sort of going
00:54:34.280 on about their life and they're having their quality of life be you know somewhat stable and
00:54:38.080 living in a a system that's somewhat stable so the fact that the fact that politics in general is
00:54:43.500 so mainstreamed is it just kind of shows how bad things have gotten up into this point you know up
00:54:49.020 through 20 the 2024 moment the 2020 moment obviously because in in a stable society you know people are
00:54:56.260 just kind of going about their lives and you're not going to be mixing politics with like a dating show
00:55:01.960 go back to uh what was the old um oh my gosh the dating show on mtv uh back in the day like the
00:55:08.400 original dating show the one that sean duffy was on singled out thank you singled out singled out got
00:55:13.700 me in the chat um and like you would never ever hear anyone talk about politics on a dating show in
00:55:20.380 the 90s it literally didn't exist it's like what music do you listen to what movies do you like
00:55:25.800 that's awesome you know and just just just not a thing yeah and uh yeah everyone's chatting that's
00:55:32.460 uh uh sean duffy and his wife actually met on the real world which was the original uh reality tv show
00:55:38.440 uh rachel compost duffy and their incredible family and obviously incredible relationship
00:55:42.500 um that actually started on another reality show also on mtv called the real world so
00:55:47.800 and the real world did start to edge into the political and religious stuff but not so that was
00:55:53.920 like the whole point i think because like the idea was they try to put like a bunch of people who are
00:55:57.820 different because like sean duffy's season i just because i looked him up once was like he had they
00:56:02.820 had a person in their house like who because sean duffy was like conservative at the time yeah and
00:56:07.140 then like they had a person who was like had aids so he was like you know because this is the early 90s
00:56:11.380 and so that was much more taboo then but but jack's right like the old dating shows were so much more
00:56:17.060 like fluffy and just fun and stupid right and like just like you never would get that deep that wasn't
00:56:23.500 the point it was like that was it the real world was the first like real reality show which really
00:56:29.820 goes out the truth of this which is the cosmic thing that's important which is one reality tv is
00:56:35.260 actually fake and two people who watch reality tv should not be allowed to vote sorry tyler oh yeah
00:56:43.920 we're we're we're revoking it like i i am on now that i i don't watch reality tv yet i will continue
00:56:50.300 my jihad against reality tv there's no reality tv that that like is okay to you a decade ago i watched
00:56:58.040 a few episodes of bar rescue because i kind of enjoyed the part where he would explain like how to
00:57:02.340 run a bar correctly like the business side of it was cool but then i realized it was all fake because
00:57:06.620 i saw a preview for an episode and they were like this bar is out of control and the the owner was
00:57:13.340 like a clearly staged shot i like he just like she's like why are you carrying it that way and he slaps
00:57:19.580 like a tray out of someone's hand i think the survival shows are fun but i mean i'm trying to think of the
00:57:27.080 last reality tv show i've watched is american idol reality tv i i feel like that's a considerate no i
00:57:33.060 would say no i would say no i don't even think the apprentice is a reality tv i disagree because
00:57:38.780 it's like a it's a contest american idol for four or five seasons was a game shows are not reality
00:57:44.420 yeah american idol was a good show the first five seasons well i think it was a great show i think
00:57:49.160 american idol is cool because we also had some from our high school win so that was yeah you actually
00:57:53.080 had to like achieve something yeah we had someone from our high school literally win it was amazing
00:57:57.200 yeah what's her face i was here in arizona hayley reinhardt uh was her name oh yeah denny wright
00:58:01.380 says that i am a tv snob and they are correct although snob snob is almost uh overselling i just don't watch tv
00:58:08.260 i think the i like i like even though it's a little bit fake too is uh like naked and afraid and those
00:58:13.660 ones like the survival there's survival it's it's cool to watch what was the other way are they gonna die
00:58:19.740 there's a cameraman next to him they're not gonna let him die yeah like oh wow but they do lose a
00:58:24.360 lot of weight yeah that should be like today's fat camp that would be cool like yeah no angelo likes
00:58:29.940 the gold mining reality shows what are these shows i never thought those are really bad i'm sorry
00:58:35.000 angelo we're gonna shame you like those are the ones on the history channel where they do much time
00:58:38.380 on ice road truckers what was so done with ice road truckers is the entire conceit of ice road
00:58:43.640 truckers is like this is a super dangerous job and like the only reason to watch is in theory
00:58:48.360 the ice could break and they would like die but that never happens so what's the point of all of
00:58:56.060 andrew says this blake you play more video games than i watch tv which is worse uh one i don't think
00:59:01.940 that's actually true and two like who cares actually probably watching tv is worse like i actually think
00:59:09.880 watching tv could be worse yeah like you're just literally just there an inert passive observer i think
00:59:14.780 they're both irredeemable but i what i will say is the uh i think the cdc or whoever when they were
00:59:21.220 doing one of their obesity warnings they were commenting on how much tv is america tv americans
00:59:26.280 watched and they were like suggesting you should be more active and one of their ways to suggest being
00:59:31.200 more active for the the truly hopeless watch 40 hours of tv a week was try playing video games instead
00:59:37.760 because you at least like move your hands i i have a different take i think video games are worse
00:59:42.960 because i think veg out tv like when you're going to sleep or whatever i think a lot of people do
00:59:48.000 that doesn't take away as much other than your sleep which is health concern yeah video games can
00:59:53.640 have a ramp up video games you have to like go remove yourself from reality sit in a box and be
01:00:00.300 there and then the other thing with video games is this is like it's so lonely do you play computer
01:00:04.160 games or do you play like console video games i play some console games not super often what like
01:00:08.040 what is xbox still around it's still around i don't own one well i don't know playstation still
01:00:12.340 around yeah what do you play so when kids say they play video games what what do they play oh that
01:00:16.840 would vary a ton i mean what's the most popular today fortnight probably or what what what console
01:00:21.980 is that in those are on everything nowadays like the big thing today is every game is on every system
01:00:26.920 i play with no because i grew up in a world where halo was only on xbox yeah yeah that's not only
01:00:32.060 nintendo games are like that and then i turned 18 that's like this is a waste of time i'm gonna go
01:00:35.140 build something yeah halo is still only on xbox but really so that's not on playstation no that's
01:00:39.760 isn't that on pc now no it's on pc so not everything's on everything but can we play the halo music it's
01:00:45.820 really good keep going well and the guys oh i never played well yeah i haven't played it in we played
01:00:51.400 11 13 years we played halo like it was our day job in high school that's how we played so is call of
01:00:56.740 duty still around called so i'll play call of duty with brooks so i play call of duty and uh i'm
01:01:01.980 i'm bad but there's some fun games on there yeah there's some there's so many now and like a lot of
01:01:08.880 them like i will deliberately avoid because they can be such an addictive time sink like they'll play
01:01:13.420 they play those like paradox strategy games where you're just like conquering the world and people
01:01:17.840 will play like 5 000 hours of that i'll play with brooks uh like madden or a hockey game because it's
01:01:24.840 it's like 15 minutes you sit down you play a game and you're out that's not hate this is not halo
01:01:30.180 what is this
01:01:31.260 no play the original you know what i'm talking about yeah the halo yeah seriously even i know that
01:01:38.040 by the way the guy that wrote the halo song is like a winger we talked about that yeah yeah
01:01:41.300 in vegas he didn't win unfortunately he came in like fourth place the original halo song
01:01:46.440 uh exactly right okay so it's a gregorian chant martin o'donnell marty o'donnell he came in like
01:01:55.580 third or fourth place trump supported by the way he's in vegas he was a cd this is this is good
01:02:02.860 music this that you know what you know why this is good music it feels like you're on a home screen
01:02:08.300 oh my gosh it feels as if you're going through settings and you know it it has that kind of aura
01:02:13.640 we we used to play all night long in my in my parents basement we would we would please
01:02:19.060 sync up xboxes and we would play you know whatever that what was that map blood gulch
01:02:26.280 and i'm trying to think of the other one there was like misty mountain or something oh man oh yeah
01:02:31.160 yeah i remember that one we played there was one called damn nation that we played i gotta look
01:02:35.320 that wasn't correct we played capture the flag people are now listing off random games and the
01:02:39.500 people are listing age of empires i do still play i'm gonna tell you right now which is still
01:02:42.800 awesome i'm gonna tell you right now because they released battle creek battle creek yeah
01:02:45.800 there was the big one too oh hang them high was hang them high was good but there was this one game
01:02:51.340 this map you can play on the new halo because they have it and they just revamped and redid all the
01:02:56.020 the originals damnation one flag capture the flag okay so what is roblox roblox should be i think it's
01:03:05.680 like a platform so like people can make games in it uh so is that on xbox i think that's again it's
01:03:12.760 on like everything that's a lot of kids get really into roblox so what what is the purpose of fortnight
01:03:17.460 what what is what is fortnight what is the thesis fortnight the gimmick of it was it popularized they
01:03:22.980 call them battle royales and so the idea was a hundred people would be in a game at once so that's
01:03:28.020 like the leero jenkins thing no that's world of warcraft so this is like a hundred people would be in a
01:03:32.660 game at once which is way more like you know halo you could be like 4v4 at best but this was
01:03:36.900 you can have a hundred people and it's called a battle royale so they go to only one is left
01:03:40.860 um it has other game modes they've added over time too i know what makes it popular is like
01:03:46.260 you can be like any character in it at this point so like you can be spider-man you can be mario you
01:03:51.940 can be like there's a million different characters that you can be well and now call of duty is doing
01:03:56.800 that yeah exactly so call of duty now i you can be a ninja turtle no great i just
01:04:02.020 okay so call of duty that's crazy so basically my my takeaway is that nothing has really changed
01:04:11.280 the same games are still basically the same popular games yeah but they're really nice dude
01:04:15.160 charlie i i completely agree with you oh okay i've made the same thought no i i'm not please jack
01:04:22.420 affirm me because i am a i'm a stranger in the wilderness so my kids um you know my kids are
01:04:29.560 kind of at the age where they're starting to like to get you know like video game curious
01:04:32.980 uh we don't have games in the house but they'll like you know we we have like a like a one of
01:04:38.980 those smart tvs and so they could see they could see kind of like you know videos of people playing
01:04:43.200 games or they'll they'll go through the store and look at games and you look at stuff and you're
01:04:47.720 like okay minecraft is just a ripoff of legos in 3d roblox is just a ripoff of minecraft uh there's
01:04:55.880 another one uh actually cernovich was telling me about it the other day that his kids are into
01:04:59.840 and i looked into it and i'm like this is just a ripoff of all the same games again and then when
01:05:05.380 you go and look at like the actual popular non sort of like building things games it's literally all
01:05:11.620 the same characters that were popular in like the late 80s early 90s it's like here's another mario
01:05:18.220 here's another sonic here's another ninja turtles and on and on and on and it's like the one uh i'll
01:05:26.080 throw it out like the one that the only one that i've heard that's like kind of new is five nights
01:05:29.780 at freddy's which i'm not even going to get into right now but like the vast majority of games that
01:05:34.900 you go out and see right now like just you know walking through the aisle looking i'm like wait a
01:05:39.160 minute these are all the exact same games and characters that were around like 30 years ago
01:05:44.240 what about the but the only like we brought up the battle royale thing did change everything but
01:05:50.900 other than that there was like no changes so but let me list it off okay so the most popular games
01:05:55.340 of 2025 call of duty i had that and then i grew up madden had that final fantasy 8 rebirth which
01:06:03.600 existed ea sports fc 25 i'm guessing is soccer yeah and then minecraft literally nothing has and then
01:06:12.080 grand theft auto is the great gta was huge and i was growing up that's still so grand theft no
01:06:17.020 grand theft auto 5 is the most successful entertainment property of any kind of all time
01:06:22.380 well it says tetris is more popular no they're they're wrong uh gta 5 has sold like i think over
01:06:28.920 100 million copies there's a 200 million here but yeah oh 200 million yeah there's a new grand theft
01:06:33.840 auto coming out yeah everybody's looking forward one thing that's wild with this is it take one
01:06:37.840 reason it's all the same old stuff is it takes them like you know how we can't do anything in
01:06:41.720 america anymore because it costs 15 times as much as it used to same thing with video games so you
01:06:46.480 used to make a mario game with a team of 20 people and it took which one was grand theft auto 5 was
01:06:50.760 that la yeah yeah or they they don't call it la but it was like san andreas los santos los santos in
01:06:56.700 the state of san andreas so they have not done a new grand theft auto in 12 years yeah a long time
01:07:01.340 and like it used to let me ask you i have the graphics gotten better in 12 years uh they don't they
01:07:06.520 look the same a bit but it slowed down a lot like it used to be you really could tell you know
01:07:11.620 it goes 2d yeah like the shadow dimensions and stuff looks largely the same i mean even
01:07:16.320 most games that come out today like on place they're on playstation 5 now most games that
01:07:21.060 come out on playstation 5 will also still have a playstation 4 version well it's just slightly
01:07:25.420 not i don't know call of duty looks a lot better than it was a few years ago i wouldn't know but
01:07:29.940 but i'll tell you this red dead redemption is that the is that red dead redemption 2 that came
01:07:34.840 out like a decade ago that came out a while ago but that is a fun game that's like grand theft auto
01:07:39.800 but it's in the wild west you're on a horse you're on a horse that's actually fun like brooks was
01:07:44.420 playing that for a little bit you can just mess around and just like hijack horses and stuff like
01:07:48.400 that so the video game i went all in on was star star wars knights of the old republic anyone else
01:07:54.560 know that yes i remember that yeah that was that was a lotar yes at the time wasn't that the most
01:07:59.480 expensive were you light side or dark side charlie you were a kotar guy wait one or two uh i think one
01:08:05.700 uh yeah okay no i tried two and i hated it it was definitely one it was definitely one two was
01:08:09.940 like rushed one did really well and then two was like super rushed it was like kind of unfinished and
01:08:14.020 they used a different um like developer so so hold on it was it was it was it was called a massively
01:08:19.840 multiplayer online role-playing series what what was it was the kotor was just a i know i never played
01:08:27.320 the online what is an rpg role-playing game which means you could have different directions like you
01:08:32.160 yeah and like you level up your character that you adjust their stats but they make different
01:08:36.000 paths that yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah and then mmorpg massively multiplayer online role-playing
01:08:41.700 games when there's hundreds of people thousands of people not interested in that but yes i uh i took
01:08:46.400 the dark side i think i think knights of the old republic i think that was like the most expensive
01:08:50.260 game ever made when they made it it was like it's supposed to be like you might be thinking of
01:08:53.760 the old republic with just the old republic which was that was an mmorpg that they made it
01:08:58.980 the old republic was the was the online one the tortanic they called it hold on wait wait maybe
01:09:04.220 i'm confused which one is which so knights of the old republic was your one player it has a story
01:09:09.760 and everything yeah and then there was one called just the old republic i didn't do which came out a
01:09:13.980 decade later and was like massively hyped and we won't go into that public came out in 2003 and i'm
01:09:18.900 looking at images of it it looks as good as video games today like that that is not true i think i'm
01:09:23.800 sorry i'm just looking i think they've made that on vr yeah i think they've made this the that game
01:09:28.820 on vr like a maybe a cheaper version that was an objectively good video game it was good but it it
01:09:34.180 does not look like what they're putting out today i will i will contest that one like the last big leap
01:09:39.260 i would say like it's probably about 10 years ago and then since then yeah they improved but it's on
01:09:46.220 the margins and they're like oh you need to have a 4k tv to see this yeah i i've always wanted so one of
01:09:53.300 the games so the games within the games like on call of duty if you've never played this this is
01:09:58.720 the only time i've sat and played something by myself and it was with with my son with brooks
01:10:04.880 is the zombies thing that is like actually creepy like it gets to different points where if like you're
01:10:10.980 in a dark room and all that stuff it like creeps you out while you're doing it it's interesting
01:10:15.600 all right really quick on daylight savings then we got to run all right well we have to revisit
01:10:19.680 this topic because abolish first of all had daylight savings time inflicted on us indirectly
01:10:26.020 because we got shifted back to pacific time and then you know i'm i think we should keep arizona
01:10:32.720 on pacific time yes no i agree tyler and i are in complete 100 you feel off i feel like i totally
01:10:38.740 agree i definitely feel off now that i'm three hours behind eastern i love being it's terrible no you
01:10:44.280 know why because it's seven o'clock eastern right now and everyone's going to bed and i got a couple
01:10:48.340 hours to get all my thoughts organized do some text do some emails and then if i wake up at 7 30
01:10:53.120 the east coast has already sent all their messages to me so i'm waking up to all of their work
01:10:57.040 it's it is it is more efficient but what if you had to wake up at 4 a.m charlie i'm not i'm not a
01:11:02.460 trader like i'm not a hedge fund manager but you know but charlie what if what if for example you
01:11:07.940 had to pre-tape your show at an early hour yes blake for the record i've woken up at ungodly hours
01:11:13.380 many times for 13 years okay i've taken more 6 a.m flights than i think any person on the planet
01:11:18.760 besides pilots and flight attendants um so but yes so let me just make sure i understand the the
01:11:26.760 pushes to eradicate any time switch in the winter is that the push is the time switch we are on the
01:11:33.880 switch time right now so this is the normal time is no normal time is in the winter the daylight savings
01:11:39.500 times oh no no we should keep it how it is right now no no so that you see this is where we are at
01:11:44.120 war charlie this is a bunch jack and i are at war with you see see what we want forget the pacific
01:11:50.300 time what we want though is you know how beautiful it was in dc dc's a terrible place it's sodom it's
01:11:55.340 awful no it's not beautiful in dc you know how beautiful it was always the sun's setting at 7 30
01:11:59.500 now yeah it's amazing everyone was happier chipper chipper everyone was like more pleasant why would
01:12:05.380 we not want the sun to be out longer charlie the sun is out the same amount of time no not if
01:12:10.340 actually the same amount of time if you wake up at 5 30 it is if you're a farmer yeah which most
01:12:16.400 people aren't charlie the farmers don't like the standard time that we use was set by i know the
01:12:22.740 farmers don't like daylight saving because they get up early okay the here's the thing listen
01:12:29.240 the the and by the way the sun is not out the same amount of time all year that's not true
01:12:34.060 but it's out the same amount of time regardless of what whether we use do it's at the same time
01:12:37.600 regardless of we're not first of all it's not it's not technically true if you design your
01:12:42.260 hold on it's not technically true if you design your day around eastern time of which i do because
01:12:46.980 i have a radio show so the sun that's not exactly charlie the the sun will be above the horizon the
01:12:53.060 same amount of time whether you are on daylight savings time or not i assure you yeah no matter
01:12:57.240 what charlie does you guys are technically are correct the same amount of time you guys are
01:13:00.580 technically correct okay but it gets longer throughout the year however however if you
01:13:05.840 configure if you configure your clock back or forward a day then you adjust your own circadian
01:13:15.080 rhythm i like the sun in the evening yeah sun in evening i am team sun and evening charlie when
01:13:21.700 the sun is going down in the evening is when god was telling us that we should be preparing
01:13:25.740 ourselves for rest by bringing darkness to the world and when we engage in daylight savings time
01:13:32.660 we rebel against god and that is the sin of pride wait so you're trying to just understand that so for
01:13:38.940 eight months out of the year we are on we are on daylight savings time for eight months out of the year
01:13:46.500 oh okay i i get them confused and it was invented and it didn't used to be this long by the way
01:13:52.840 communist democrats andrew's all confused too daily savings time was invented by democrats i don't care
01:13:57.820 who invented what i like it i like it i like i like the beautiful the i like the beautiful evening
01:14:04.760 charlie kirk's gonna go back in time to make sure that like fdr gets elected to six terms as president
01:14:09.660 to reward all i know is that there's more sunlight because we change the clocks in the evening
01:14:16.220 we need to have huberman on about this he's he's he's on our side with this yeah huberman's 100%
01:14:20.780 correct yeah huberman's all screwed up on this okay i mean he's like oh you want morning sun you
01:14:26.180 know what i like evening sun evening sun's very good for you morning morning for the record he says
01:14:30.200 both are good but both morning and evening sun could be good for you but you can get evening sun no
01:14:36.040 matter what why wouldn't you this is really basic stuff why wouldn't you i think society
01:14:42.300 functions better when you can go home from work and spend time with your family everyone is happy
01:14:48.120 when we spring ahead why would you want to go home in the dark every all year long you can spend time
01:14:53.020 with your family even in the morning that's not true some people have to have like to go spend time
01:14:58.760 with your kids most people they have to work nine to five and at nine to five you're going to have
01:15:02.920 more so you leave at dark get home at dark i think that's crazy that's crazy it's crazy
01:15:07.660 or you leave in the morning who cares you're stressed you have to go to work go home spend
01:15:13.720 time in your front yard or your backyard swinging in the swings with your kids from six to eight
01:15:18.160 p.m completely and i will just note by the way charlie like you are aware that the sun is going
01:15:23.020 down at the same time here in arizona regardless because i am aware but it changes based on your
01:15:28.280 configuration yeah that's what's funny is that like the the arizona guys are all up in arms over it
01:15:33.140 but i feel actually doesn't affect them at all it does if you are on eastern position time it doesn't
01:15:38.840 i have to wake up now an hour earlier because of time changing yeah and charlie's right too you feel
01:15:45.800 different so it's either you're going to feel one way or the other i'm just telling you i've lived here
01:15:49.780 my whole life i feel off when it's more mountain time i hate it i agree i hate it i i like being three
01:15:57.160 hours behind i see all the news of the day i'm processing it has good incoming i and by the way
01:16:02.500 we end the show at 11 a.m you know how awesome that is i had the whole day ahead of me yep all
01:16:08.660 right with that everybody keep on committing thought crimes and i will personally lobby the president
01:16:12.960 to keep it lighter later reject talk to you soon
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