THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 76 — Cannibal Democrats? Undead Democrats? VR Prisons?
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1 hour and 16 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the recent swatting incidents targeting conservative influencers and those associated with them. We also discuss the dangers of swatting and how to protect yourself and your family from becoming a victim of these types of incidents.
Transcript
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from the age of big brother if they want to get you they'll get you dnsa specifically
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targets the communications of everyone they're collecting your communications
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okay everybody uh welcome to thought crime thursday we are live is that correct we are
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live charlie all right so don't anyone say anything you're going to regret we got jack we got tyler
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we got blake what is our first topic today our first topic tonight charlie uh jack what really
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wanted us to hit this swattings jack i think you have the details something i actually know
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can you hear us jack well there's there's been some reports about some some bad actors uh you
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know going on and uh targeting it seems to be conservative influencers or a group of people
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um you know sort of associated with conservative politics uh one was is a host at info wars uh
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chase geithner um this of course comes or geyser this comes on the heels of course of i believe
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it's a separate incident but of course a horrific murder of a uh an info war staffer a couple
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of days ago in austin but then also and this is you know kind of new to me i'm just coming to it but
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sean farash uh gunther edgington and potentially others did people are asking texting me saying hey
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you guys okay and um my parents people know were swatted um a year ago at christmas time and since then
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um the individual who did that i was going to pull up the case a second ago i was just looking it up
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was actually found and extradited to the united states it was actually a foreign case but um you
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know i guess some this guy thought that thought that he could get away with it but he could not
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um and so it seems to be there's no this this another round of swattings that's going on
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right now and and honestly it's it's something where i'll just put it like this this needs to be
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looked at for what it is uh the reason that these are done is because they want the police to go in
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their guns blazing they want to generate particularly when you're targeting conservatives a lot of us
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are gun owners a lot of us are uh strong enthusiasts in exercising our second amendment i know i certainly
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am and so they want to create a situation uh that could lead to a potential fatal incident or fatal
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harm so when i look at these swatting incidents they could go sideways very quickly now of course
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what's great with uh with my situation is that we've been you know very very close with law
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enforcement our law enforcement has been great in terms of this in terms of their response once you
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realized what was actually going on but it this needs to be looked at from a federal level and we got
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cash patel over at the fbi we've got pam bondy at the attorney general's office and and by the way
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i i've always said this and i've been very clear about this i don't care what side of political eye
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you're on this is something that at dock this is why doxing is so evil this is why swatting is so evil
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in general because it can lead to killing it can lead to it can lead to fatal outcomes if someone's
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not getting knocked at the door they don't know what's going on the you know people do a no knock
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rage these types of things so sometimes they go they go very smoothly and sometimes they don't
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and it's happened in the past or you know someone who doesn't know what's going on answers the door
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all sorts of things can take place so look i i'd say this to anybody though who's you know who's in
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this situation or if you think you might be in a situation like this make sure you be proactive
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call local law enforcement get on the books with them find out whoever the local shift uh who you know
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whoever's running the shift on there and you know tell them hey you know i i might be a potential
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i might be a potential uh target of this or this might be something that's going on you know try to
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you know hopefully have some friends in your local community and local law enforcement i know i certainly
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do and that's something that helped us a lot and there's also by the way i'll say this as well uh there
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are services out there so a lot of these a lot of these pull from those publicly available databases
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everybody knows about them where you can look up people's addresses and things like this online
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well there are actually services that you can get and pay for you know i'm not advertising any here
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but just go and look into it yourself where you can go and get it and it's it's it's a little bit
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of money but it's not that much money actually at the end of the day where they can run real-time
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monitoring and actually get your information pulled down from those websites on a rolling basis and then
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sometimes like if if it gets leaked somehow or even and it includes by the way other pii like email
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addresses phone numbers you can get family members on there etc so i get that i pay for that for my
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family and that's something that's helped us really really well get it down from those those public
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sites it works great and so yeah i would just highly recommend we had an event we had an event
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who's worried about this we had an event recently and uh someone came up threatening and literally
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reading off my home address like threatening us live on air there uh in front of a lot of people so
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it's a real problem blake how do we solve this because it's a legitimate issue so i'm looking it up now
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just as an example because we did that case where they extradited some individuals for swatting
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and they got these two guys a guy from romania and a guy from serbia uh their list of uh of code
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names that they used for communicate they charged them with conspiracy they charged them with oh wait
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no that's like that's i think that's the ones who targeted my parents yeah it might be uh they
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targeted other people okay so it would not have just been then but they had 29 counts of threats and
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false information regarding explosives and four counts of transmitting threats in interstate and
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foreign commerce wow and like i imagine if these guys are convicted they could get you know several
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years in prison but i think the way i think the way you crack this down you crack down on this for good
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you catch someone you catch someone doing this and you say your goal was to have someone get shot by
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police we're charging you with attempted murder enjoy 40 years in prison and the federal government
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should do you do it to one person and after that they are the example where everyone thinks
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i'm not going to swat someone because my stupid feud on the internet is not worth 40 years in prison
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i completely agree and that's what it is it is attempted murder tyler what if we take everybody
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that wants to swap people and we put them in ice and we have them target illegals or what if we made
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them live training dummies for swat training it well it's just no you just that's getting dark
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no no you just anybody that wants to you know like send police to someone's house right like in
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tactical gear why don't just make them a part of it it's just like you know how they like rehabilitate
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former criminals and sometimes like they put them in intelligence communities like just put them in
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and then go after go after illegals i i will i will say this too that it seems to be a
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i'm hearing myself back like four seconds delayed i don't know why are you guys too
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yeah like faintly um there it seems to be a predominantly uh right like on the right problem
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i don't know a lot of left people that i think this was bipartisan for a time um and i i just have to
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compliment the police forces though yeah the police forces praise god they've been going in a lot more
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restrained and they're getting prepped on this and they are getting uh for example you know where our
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headquarters is and everyone can figure that out like we've sat down with police and like we're on
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a list that if there's ever a crisis call like they have to now do kind of like a well like they have
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to call back and be like is it actually which actually makes things more dangerous when you think like
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god forbid there was ever a crisis here on the turning point campus now the police are
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wondering are they going into an actual crisis or is this a prank does that make sense it does i i feel
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like in real life if that were to happen the benefit we'd have is we have a good number of people here
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they would get we would get 15 9-1-1 calls in a minute no no we have 45 firearms here exactly
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oh that also that also we got a lot of weapons the whole tech team there they could uh they could
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defend taiwan yeah we just call them up we just call them up more like no we don't need police
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protection weaponry in our tech team have you seen what they got there they got stuff i've even heard of
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they're packed we just call out the police and we're like yeah we actually don't need your help
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but we just we do need a cleanup crew here and ryan says just send an ambulance
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to be clear it only only to take them to the morgue that's the instruction actually to the
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i actually have a theory about that though charlie about the right versus the left
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i think the left there's more people that want to hit famous people and the famous people for the
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most part they have they already have plans like that that you're describing for most of those people
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they know to call back to double check do all that before they send somebody a lot of the people on
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the right that are kind of up and comer a lot of influencers and things like that aren't aren't like
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known celebrities and things like that that haven't come up with those plans with the local law
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enforcement so i think it's easier for the left to go after kind of right-leaning influencers and
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and you know our celebs and and do that kind of thing i mean i i think it's repulsive and i think
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the fbi should get involved i mean i think it's it's an interstate it's almost always interstate it's
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almost never in the same state is that correct almost never and it's it's a growing it's a growing
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and and serious major issue i'm looking now and one guy did get 20 years in prison there was a
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swatting in wichita in 2017 where a man was angry over a beef in the video game call of duty world
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war ii yeah and so he swatted someone and that got someone killed so he got 20 years it started the
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games like video games yeah yeah it started with it like you can tell it it's totally a thing that
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just comes from like losers on the internet basically yeah but there's a lot of losers on
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the internet who care a lot about politics too and so they do destructive stuff like this but i think
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yeah the fix is well praise god you are an attempted murderer i think someone has gotten
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killed via a swat at some there was yeah that's the wichita one um i don't know that a politics
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one has gotten anyone killed but but i think police so i police forces are getting better and better
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at receiving these don't you agree like they're not but again i want to just repeat this god forbid
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that there's an actual hostage situation or an actual crisis like this and they go on not thinking
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it's real and it is real i mean it's bad for everybody i think it's even worse than attempted
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murder i think it's an act of terrorism i think that it's bad for the entire community bad for the
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police force i know that might sound like a exorbitant you know statement but the goal is
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absolutely to get people killed this is unreal a man in 2020 died of a heart attack like while police
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were hitting his house and the swatting was done against him in an attempt to force him to give up
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his twitter handle at tennessee and this is sick stuff sickos out there man they are they are crazy
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demented individuals but are they as crazy and demented as the next thing we're going to talk
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about let's go to that let's go to that all righty all right charlie we got this hot off the presses
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from charlie today this is made just for thought we had we had other topics in mind but charlie was
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like no we need this is designed for thought this is like no this is not youtube friendly exactly
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exactly so this is a story out of and of course it's washington state where so what happens is uh
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the town of linwood washington is that where emma kate is from we should find out uh no it's just
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it's just a seattle suburb of course anyway so the town of linwood washington is has a city council and
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they were going to appoint someone to a vacancy i guess it's a town where that can happen and they
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settled on an individual named jessica ann roberts 32 years old uh and then and they chose jessica ann
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roberts over a military veteran who was also contending for the post and then after they made
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the announcement a few people pointed out wait have you guys actually looked up this person or done any
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sort of background check um you know i think i think i'll just read the headline from the post
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millennial here breaking washington trans only fans city council appointee rescinds candidacy after
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cannibal fetish controversy that is a headline i don't think like chat gpt could generate on its own
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i think that that's one only real life could create so jessica ann roberts was born neil vincent
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roberts and has a hidden history as a sex worker that includes an uncontrollable desire to impregnate
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women and then eat them so in other words this guy was just too normal no basically everything
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was fine up until the cannibalism is that the line i just want to be clear i think that was
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the democrat party everything was cool the tranny part the only fans thing but the eating and it had
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to be by the way you have to look at this is disgusting it had to be close because you know
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the democrats are kind of in favor of eating unborn children so they it was probably that they
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wanted to eat the mom too absolutely put it over the line for them but yeah we have we have some uh
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images of uh what they were saying and i believe edited so that they're not super duper horrifying
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here uh how about we put up uh 176 and then let's see if i can find this here so yeah we have uh let's
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see so they found all the posts this guy was making on a subreddit which we really need to like
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quarantine reddit in in some capacity but this is a reddit called slash vore v-o-r-e which i guess
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is short for carnivore or humivore uh is there actually reddits dedicated towards cannibalism of
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course there are i'm sure but they did ban the one for supporting donald trump so you know are the
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donald was awesome for the are the donald it was great it was i got a lot of good content from are
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the donald's apparently worse than cannibalism i've never been able to i have not been able to find a
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similar synthesized community of like until our group chat you know until i found so so this is a
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post so it was the discussion preds predators i think i got a question okay okay so how do you like
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your prey to react when they go down in and once they're in i assume in your stomach i want to get
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better just in case i find myself a snack and then i'm not sure if the op is that guy or if this other
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art is it the other aardvark guy who's who's this one uh i love scoping up random girls and taunting
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them about how they're going to fuel me how their entire life built up to the moment where i snuff them
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out and use their fat and nutrients to become stronger very healthy and normal and okay and they're
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like yeah this guy seems legit let's put him on the city council now admittedly they appear to have
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not known about this but i've got to admit i feel like there were probably warning signs possibly some
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sort of visible external sign that this individual was mentally unwell and perhaps in the grips of
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delusions and insanity of some kind is there anything that could have given away what could have
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no there must not have been anything there's probably no way to see this coming we can't
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really blame the city council for this can we jack what is your take on this uh delicious topic
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get it yeah you know i mean it's like it's like the great line uh they always used to go after trump
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for this for saying they you know he's talking about illegals but he always used to bring up hannibal
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lector on the campaign trail saying you know hannibal lector he wants to have you for dinner and that
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you know talking about the uh the emptying of prisons and he would sort of use this as a
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as uh you know a sobriquet to explain sort of the insanity that was going on but but charlie you know
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i think it really goes to show you that when when we talk about the insanity that is perpetuated in the
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united states today and it makes me think of something we talked about in last year in in our book that
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we call it we identified called the fried mental model and there's a lot of people out there that
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just have an absolutely fried mental model of the world um many of them are located in some of these
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places uh that are are hotbeds of uh of leftism like a lot of the washington area is this is the
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state of washington so you got seattle up there that's where chas took place uh i i witnessed just
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just insane levels of depravity and degeneracy when i was there uh but of course you see it all
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all throughout the pacific northwest and you know these sort of things used to be confined to those
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areas but now because of the internet and because of tiktok these types of ideas these types of social
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contagions and these types of ideals are are spread everywhere they're just all over the place and so
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uh it's it's almost like they sort of have a race to the bottom that's going on because leftist
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politics actually incentivizes this kind of behavior in certain ways so so that uh in order to be
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more risque in order to be more taboo against the social order you must push yourself to further and
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further extreme behaviors and that's exactly what you got because you can't take out the fact right you
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can't take out the fact only say only fans trans cannibal fetish but also that this uh thing was
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running for office also views all of that through the political lens so in leftist politics these types
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of things are inseparable they are inseparable from leftist politics i have a question a feature this is
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not a bug if you were to argue from a left-wing perspective how what argument could you make that
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eating human beings is wrong by what standard i actually i don't think you can i mean if if two
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people love each other very very much and one of them agrees to go into the other's tummy well so so
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let's just kind of play out with all the kind of one-liners i hear on campus well charlie it doesn't
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doesn't impact you well they say cause of suffering what if the person's already dead what if you go to
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a morgue and you strike a deal and you're like i'm just gonna take you know a leg a week just could
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be deceased you know what why under the leftist worldview is that wrong you got me no i mean this
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not sorry of course we as conservatives think the body is sacred and it's disgusting and wrong and
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repulsive and evil to consume a fellow human being otherwise besides all the other legal i'm
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saying from morally what is the left-wing objection to cannibalism to go even further like i don't
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think they could even articulate that like the fact that a person wants to like that someone would
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have this fetish that they want to eat someone that this indicates something is wrong with them
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when it clearly does i mean there's all sorts of stuff like even his public like he oh oh this i guess
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is his only fans account jessica had an only fans account a bisexual trans woman with itty bitty and a
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big girl are the donald is back by the way oh is it it says ask the donald it's not the same
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so they have patriots win is like a separate website they set up forget it um but yeah and
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like it's just oh and of course this guy oh this wasn't even highlighted in the article he's also
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basically like pedo adjacent i love the type of prey that knows their purpose in life but is too scared
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to actually be eaten so they fight back even though they know they're only going to turn into fat before
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they're disposed of personally i enjoy being a professor teacher or babysitter who reluctantly
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disciplines the children this person should be locked up by eating them i guess yes they've been
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that's this handsome and gretel thing but to charlie's point that i mean this is the this is what's
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happened the creep i mean it's literally on all their flags now like just add just add the the
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cannibalism to it now at this point like these people are absolute freaks they're mentally ill
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there's no difference and you can see even in that like to what you just read there's this weirdo
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crossover between all this stuff that they've tried to normalize into literally murder and cannibalism
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i mean they're talking about murder that's what they're talking about constant like in every single
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one of those posts do you think that there is a do you think there are many non-tranny uh cannibals
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i only know of one other case of the cannibal community what percentage are trannies it's gotta
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be higher no hannibal had some weird sexual stuff though was he was he tranny are we talking about
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silence the lambs no no no no the buffalo bill had the weird sexual stuff no they did dress up yeah
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no no i think that there might be a there's almost a one-to-one here yeah i'm not saying all
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trainees are cannibals i'm asking the question are all cannibals trans so now i'm now i'm looking up
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the only other major cannibalism case i know there was a guy in germany who 25 years ago like put up an
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ad on craig's list that was basically like i want to eat somebody and i'm looking for a volunteer
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and a guy answered it and went to his house and was killed and eaten and the man is currently in prison
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so i'm trying to find out if he had any other you know tells as it were dommer dommer was for sure
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in today's society wouldn't wouldn't have been gay he would have been trans i'm i think i'm onto
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something here no for sure i'm trying to think of the movie what's the movie where something happens
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oh it was uh one of the adam sandler movies and uh uh what's his face the actor kills somebody or he's
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like he's got a list from high school remember he puts on the the lipstick i haven't seen steve
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so it's not quite cannibalism but it's but it's murder murderous weirdo traits where he's he's
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you know you have that crossover so i i think charlie's right deep down every single cannibal
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cannibal is probably trans i'm just i we don't have a lot to go off of the cannibal community
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is not yet we're gonna have cannibal rights i am curious that at the dnc
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2028 when they when they nominate just like ai i think that's what they're gonna do by the way
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i think it's ai 2020 i think they're going to nominate an algorithm i'm not kidding
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i think i don't i don't want to be me charlie but i feel like we're probably closer to like
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do you think if they made a perfectly they if they came out and they're like this ai
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perfectly replicates donald trump like quite a few people would probably want to vote for that i
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wouldn't what i am saying though is that if they even entertained pete buddha judge
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they would totally vote for an algorithm that's fair that's okay pete buddha judge is a man who
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when he is like 16 years old he made the list of like everything he had to do to become president
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and he's been sociopathically executing it ever since the fact that he's even entertained as a
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serious contender is like that's like sam he like sam altman created him yes yeah i think like sam
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altman's first project was pete buddha judge then he did open ai yeah anyway and then he did this guy
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yes evidently uh so the i guess at the democrat 2028 when they say you know open ai 2028 will we
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have a cannibal rights section on the floor i mean i feel like they should i feel like that would only
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be fair but who are we to judge their dietary yeah exactly like it's just it's by the way it would it
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would help with the depopulation the population problem it would it would save space in cemeteries
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it would it would really increase the amount of utility in the world utilitarianly like we should
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in fact mandate cannibalism so every cannibal deep down is a tranny and a democrat you know it's like
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recycling you know i think well yeah i mean so but if your whole goal is about saving the environment
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to blake's point look at all that protein and nutrients that otherwise could be going to nourish
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this would have to be the most moral type of meat out there but think about it if we want it if we
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want to no longer have carbon emissions because of farting cows or because of all the industrial
00:24:13.040
farming you know there's millions of people that die in america every single year that could feed
00:24:18.240
starving children so are they green partners um have you heard of blake have you ever heard of the uh
00:24:23.900
the sort of like um the the scientific idea of like a generation ship like a like a generation
00:24:30.320
spaceship oh yeah yeah yeah so i've read some theories about that where in a generation
00:24:38.360
so guys that means like a like you know the possibility for interstellar travel but you know
00:24:43.120
because it takes so long to travel there at sublight speeds um that you would have multiple
00:24:47.360
generations of families living on this ship before it gets from one planet to the other
00:24:51.820
and that one of the potential uses for the older generation that dies would then be for their bodies and
00:24:58.740
protein to go into like either uh you know creating like a biosphere type thing on the ship or go into some
00:25:06.580
sort of like hydroponic thing or be able to use in the ship's energy etc it's kind of like a matrix
00:25:11.800
sort of thing i don't know it's just it's just something so but but all kidding aside we'll get to
00:25:16.620
the next segment in the christian tradition we believe the body is sacred and that's why we believe
00:25:22.900
christ actually took human flesh we believe we're actually going to be resurrected again one day
00:25:27.120
that the human body should not be trivialized that there's something special about it that you were
00:25:32.120
made in the image of god not in the image of the big whopper that's right but as we become less
00:25:40.120
christian i'm telling you cannibalism very well might pop up again i knew we could all joke about
00:25:45.580
it but the sarcasm actually is laced in i want a liberal to come on and tell me by the liberal
00:25:51.380
standard what is the argument against cannibalism i should like we we might need to have our first like
00:25:57.760
liberal on thought crime just to like probe this question we should find a lot of questions we
00:26:01.700
should find that we can't say more about it we should find that guy who was at university of
00:26:06.520
tennessee today oh no you can't you can't you can't spoil i won't spoil anything no no no that one
00:26:11.340
got teed that was off that was that boy everyone should subscribe to all of our appropriate channels
00:26:15.500
jack jack you are gonna love this one this one has the opportunity i'm not i don't want to be too
00:26:21.960
has the opportunity to be one of those viral things i've ever done that's all i'm gonna say i think i think it
00:26:26.680
will okay we'll need to do that charlie hey blake based on what you heard it's pretty juicy right
00:26:33.200
it sounded pretty amazing to me all right i've got to say that next segment all right next thing this
00:26:38.360
this is kind of a wild card one but this is going viral this week and it's kind of a funny thing so
00:26:45.420
you know uh you know courtesy you know courtesy arvin we've had him on the show before one of his uh fun
00:26:50.420
ideas is he said like you know we're gonna punish criminals and we're gonna punish them by putting
00:26:53.920
them in virtual reality prison so we have much better virtual reality tech now we get those
00:26:59.580
goggles you can put on and you can go to the facebook magical world and hang out with people
00:27:03.600
do people do that by the way is that like a thing it is a thing i've never done how is that like
00:27:07.880
different than like age i mean whatever the thing well it wasn't super successful but what was that
00:27:13.680
game i used to play age of empires no no i'll think of it keep keep talking but anyway so
00:27:19.780
it's more and more runescape oh runescape yeah is that still around yes it is yes it is
00:27:26.020
it will never die i'm sorry keep interrupting someone remember there's still people who play
00:27:30.040
world of warcraft like eight out you know i know that still exists well the original you go way way
00:27:35.340
back you go to the original warcraft and starcraft well those are those are strategy but anyway so
00:27:40.600
this is all teeing up that there are prisons in uh in the i believe in california that like they
00:27:47.980
have a thing in the central california women's facility they're doing this but there are there's
00:27:51.780
reports now they have prisons where they're giving inmates access to virtual reality gear and they can
00:27:58.720
use this to like go outside the prison basically and according to the reporting that is coming out
00:28:05.900
offenses by these prisoners have gone down 96 percent and so is is the vr is virtual reality prison our
00:28:16.700
future and if it is like is that a good thing because it seems like they might be having a
00:28:20.700
good time with it and i don't know that we want to reward anders breivik or the cannibal guy with like
00:28:25.680
you know lifelong fun times in vr for for being for being bad dudes but if it helps with rehabilitation
00:28:34.000
it's a choice one way or the other would you go to vr prison so let me be let me what what is
00:28:41.520
actually on their vr so the description in this article that i'm looking at in the guardian that
00:28:46.380
came out a few days ago is this woman is in a women's prison in california but it says two and a
00:28:52.760
half years into a five-year prison sentence uh this woman uh was about uh samantha tovar was about to
00:28:59.100
see thailand for the first time and so she puts it on and she basically goes on like a virtual tour
00:29:04.300
of stuff in thailand i've used these virtual reality things i don't think they're that good
00:29:08.260
yeah i mean i have you seen the tech is not there yet i used i might make it better but i've used
00:29:13.340
them once and it was at the hillary clinton's dnc in 2016 facebook was there okay yeah so it's gotten
00:29:19.900
better since nine years ago have you seen the sporting ones the sporting events so now they've
00:29:25.740
got this this whole thing where you can put on the vr and you're like on the sidelines sitting i know
00:29:31.240
but is it any good yeah it looks really nice is it really yeah yeah and they've got this whole
00:29:35.560
actually they've got this whole restaurant in california now where it's like a vr restaurant
00:29:39.620
where it's like a big screen you're inside it and you feel like you're in the stadium
00:29:42.700
no that's different i i know but i like that but but the the goggle thing bothers me well i think you've
00:29:49.240
i think after a while you feel the goggle you know and it's like you i don't think your mind can
00:29:54.000
get past the fact that you're wearing something that's on top of yourself i i at least here's where
00:29:59.900
somebody once told recently they said my my relative my uncle whatever works all day gets
00:30:07.040
home and just puts on his goggles and spends four hours i think that's like deeply unhealthy
00:30:11.180
oh i started this started coming up because i started watching this there's some weirdo
00:30:16.180
i don't i want to get off the trans thing but there's like a the furry community has all moved
00:30:21.920
onto vr oh dear really i saw this and it has to be there has to be like a pipeline from people
00:30:28.060
who are furries to there's a there's some there's some like if you think you're a type if you're
00:30:32.360
like i like to pretend i'm a tiger that tigers ain't that's what i'm talking about that's what
00:30:37.100
they're doing i think that's exactly right so we should put all mentally ill people i i think it's
00:30:42.100
let's talk about forget jail mentally ill people should all be on vr doing mentally ill stuff well
00:30:48.460
that i mean that gets back to the bigger thing you know it's like this guy well this guy's a
00:30:51.480
cannibal fetishist like would it be okay to make an extremely detailed vr simulation of him like
00:30:56.500
eating probably not those kids like probably not that's why i guess what the question is what is
00:31:01.680
the purpose of prison is it to punish or to distract well the truth is it's kind of all of
00:31:07.160
this it's partly to punish it's partly to rehabilitate it's partly just to protect the
00:31:11.140
public from future crimes yeah i mean so if it's all about protection prison is such a joke now these
00:31:15.320
prisoners get video games like all day long yeah but bannon said his experience wasn't that good jack
00:31:20.660
i don't think he had video games and sports so i don't know every prison is different right jack
00:31:26.560
i mean if he did have video games i don't i don't think he'd be playing them i mean look you know it
00:31:31.640
also depends on where you're at there's different places uh peter navarro uh dr navarro was in sort
00:31:37.440
of a work camp situation um it depends on who you're in with i mean look prison is prison like i'm not
00:31:43.480
gonna i'm not gonna say that it's not you know not a you know uh you know something that it isn't
00:31:52.040
coddled you know college atmosphere collegiate atmosphere or something like that like a community
00:31:57.860
college or a dorm or something but at the at the idea though is that there's way too look i'll talk
00:32:03.940
about what i know about so when i was i served a year about uh you're at guantanamo bay and that's
00:32:08.820
based off of the federal correctional institutes and we had we had some areas there we had some areas
00:32:14.200
there where they had like apartments with uh with kitchens um no that was for like extremely good
00:32:20.080
behavior but yeah you could have like an apartment and a kitchen you could like cook your own food and
00:32:24.740
like a single apartment and you could like walk around even it was amazing so like are you in favor
00:32:31.300
of vr headsets for problem children man it's going i'm not entirely sure i so for example like i've never
00:32:39.420
used a vr headset for you know like i've played video games even though i know you you don't care
00:32:45.060
for them but like i won't play them with a headset because to me there's something fundamentally off
00:32:50.000
about like being totally dead to the world that way like you're jumping fully into it and you're
00:32:55.500
disengaging from reality to me that is a step up from just like oh i'm holding a controller on the
00:33:01.740
couch very different and there's something but it's going to be a bigger and bigger question because
00:33:06.600
the tech for this is only going to get better overall and as one of you said like ai is going
00:33:12.060
to increase its potential a lot because you can use that to auto fill in all the details in it so
00:33:17.260
it's going to get more and more realistic and there's going to be people who spend more and more of their
00:33:21.280
time in it and you know i guess i have to say like it feels like this is probably one of the best use
00:33:28.540
cases for it is someone in prison and it has been pointed out that prison can be bad enough it makes a lot
00:33:35.220
of people worse they kind of go nuts there and if you can use vr to make them relatively more normal
00:33:42.000
or more sedate it's probably not the worst use case for it and it might even be cheaper than is it is
00:33:47.460
it immoral um to basically in the in the water supply to put estrogenic material in a men's prison
00:33:54.920
it feels like it probably would be yet i mean it would make them less violent it would make them
00:34:03.780
more compliant it would make them like less likely to kill each other i i'm more old-fashioned i feel
00:34:09.620
like if someone has done a crime where you think that's worth doing to them you should just snip snip
00:34:13.700
so let's put the estrogen example aside should we if a prisoner wants muscle relaxers on a daily basis
00:34:22.460
should we give them that for the purposes of i mean how is it different than a vr headset
00:34:34.660
as you say it's like what do we use prison for that's what i'm saying i mean like if the goal
00:34:41.000
is just to protect the public and you know they're not learning helpful skills just give
00:34:46.880
them a bunch of valiums and muscle relaxers and there's some people that would want to just do
00:34:52.780
that i mean there's the problem is is then you're enticing people to want to go to prison which is
00:34:59.500
the whole argument against those things in the first place well yeah and so then all of a sudden
00:35:02.780
it's like yeah prison's not that bad prison is just really like a lifetime stint in a uh in like
00:35:07.820
a web cafe but basically every 55 year old man that gets divorced later in life would be like
00:35:13.440
i'm just gonna go to prison just sell this thing out for the next 20 years yeah yeah i mean that's
00:35:18.880
definitely i mean there's a huge amount of population that exists of like homeless people
00:35:24.480
and just down in the dumps people and then you get to the other argument is you know is that better
00:35:31.760
than someone doing something drastic yeah i mean institutional but that's why everyone
00:35:38.780
people got institutionalized for this stuff well i mean we should bring asylums back without i mean
00:35:43.420
this whole anti-asylum movement has been a disaster i mean hotel california reopen it that's the difference
00:35:49.820
between institute institutionalization versus prison is there's people that you know probably should be
00:35:58.120
in that realm because that's basically what they did was just hop them up and you know kept them
00:36:04.820
alive it's very funny reading one of the quotes in this guardian article uh is this person who says
00:36:10.740
it's a this ortega guy was you uh using the headset and was visiting like was viewing the eiffel tower
00:36:17.580
basically a transformative scene for ortega was sitting around the eiffel tower you see tourists
00:36:22.600
regular people going to and from work he said and that's when it hit me i want to live life like
00:36:28.580
that i deserve it i owe it to myself on the one hand it's good he reached this realization he
00:36:34.480
shouldn't do crime on the other hand i feel like he was able to see people doing things like that
00:36:40.740
in real life and that and apparently that didn't make the impression on him he had to do it
00:36:45.780
in the vr video game to actually experience this there's something very bizarre about that what what if
00:36:51.680
you what if you use the headsets but you had to force them to do just educational stuff like go
00:36:56.580
through museums or like do extremely tedious stuff yeah like you have to mow a lawn that like the grass
00:37:02.660
grows back instantly you have to pull weeds endlessly do it if they do everything your mop vacuum pull weeds
00:37:09.860
admittedly if we think vr is wrong might be not great even if it's nice it's probably really wrong to
00:37:15.660
use vr to torture people take out the trash can every week i i think what we should do
00:37:22.060
is we should go test out the new vr stuff i think that's what we should do i think a thought crime
00:37:27.100
episode we should do that thought crime in vr that's exactly right we could we could i wonder
00:37:31.780
if i'm gonna i'm gonna get us some good stuff we should find out i'm gonna get all the meta stuff
00:37:35.180
for us oh yeah that's that's a good idea we have to we have to ride the wave of us being able to do
00:37:38.960
that as long as we can we could have an episode where people could actually vr into the show i
00:37:43.880
don't know if this is super popular yeah we could like do a vr where like the audience is there if
00:37:47.240
they're all in vr things and i just i i mean i don't i i'm not i'm not a believer that vr's i mean
00:37:55.380
i'm looking at the meta website right now and i'm the technology looks pretty impressive at the same
00:38:00.720
time i look at the i mean look at this this looks like indecipherable than like a 2006 video game
00:38:06.100
or or like a bad a lot of them are bad i bought i'm saying i bought i bought brooks for christmas
00:38:11.700
it was a couple years ago but i bought him a meta headset whatever it was called before that that
00:38:16.680
was the palmer thing oculus oculus i bought an oculus and the games were so unplayable
00:38:23.700
oh oh dear you see if we were in vr that wouldn't have happened so they it was so unplayable and it
00:38:31.040
was just like it was like boxy it looked like it was like lily nintendo 64 i'm like this is
00:38:35.380
why would you why did you play it kind of feels like the wii do you got is the wii still around
00:38:40.780
uh i mean it exists but they went out of production why the wii was really popular well because
00:38:47.100
technology advances charlie evidently it doesn't now kids have their nintendo switches can we put
00:38:52.300
this up on screen can we put this screenshot i just said first of all this has got all the dei
00:38:56.560
stuff all over but whatever so let's put this up it's called the super rumble dei those are just
00:39:01.940
like people who aren't white come on it's on the front page of the website i mean come on
00:39:07.000
whatever you and i both know what's cool so it's called the super rumble or super crumble or super
00:39:16.140
dumble there's probably super rumble yeah yeah i i'm trying to there was one game like the the
00:39:22.560
funnest game that they had on vr were the dumb ones and there was like a lightsaber game yeah they did
00:39:27.180
star wars vr no no not that was nintendo wii with that little no it was like it was like that but
00:39:32.600
you you went through it was like uh fruit ninja kind of with lightsabers we brought church to the
00:39:38.400
metaverse oh dear i don't want to know the theology of that church like guarantee guarantee you it's a
00:39:44.460
little shaky yeah you know and when jesus said you know i am the vine he meant the vines that were on
00:39:54.140
twitter back in the day i do think that vr is cool for things that where you can't be somewhere so like
00:39:59.860
so for example if you're across the world or across the country and you're really old you can't get to
00:40:05.000
your kid's baptism or you're or like some like play recital or something the future of that is like
00:40:11.440
grandpa can put on a headset and feel like he's there i think that's cool i just don't think we're
00:40:16.420
there yet right like that doesn't exist i think they were trying to sell that i they were trying
00:40:21.600
to sell that on tv i think it was a commercial i'm not a believer yet in the technology so we'll see
00:40:26.340
what happens all right next topic all right wait what is our next topic so crap i just forgot uh
00:40:32.080
save me angelo what was our next topic no no no there was daylight savings but there was another
00:40:36.720
love is blind we wanted to know i want yeah no this is an important one yes so
00:40:41.160
i i've never first of all i i have to really plead ignorance do people watch this millions of
00:40:46.020
people with this is incredibly popular goggles on oh i don't know about goggles why would they not
00:40:52.060
watch it with vr i mean vr about goggles are expensive charlie so love is not blind everyone
00:40:57.180
took out not everyone took out by the way imagine the mark they should hire me they should not it
00:41:01.460
should not be called love is blind it should be called love is vr and they would sell like five
00:41:05.540
million of these things okay so this was just to remind daisy says hold on she says i watched every
00:41:12.640
season except this one and i repent of my sins i've never even heard of this my wife my wife has
00:41:17.700
been watching this i was the first season of this around covid time i remember it when i was this on
00:41:22.860
netflix i believe so yeah it's on netflix it's on netflix what how does this show work it i can
00:41:29.320
explain it please real simple you've watched it you have and i've i've had to watch it because i'm
00:41:33.680
like i had no choice i'm trying to follow the storylines trying to follow the storylines i have
00:41:39.920
to admit it trash tv is like you know it just goes we'll get there we're gonna but you have two people
00:41:45.920
that they are you have two groups of men and women and they're in separate parts of the house
00:41:52.340
and they have to go into rooms and communicate each other with each other through walls so they can't
00:41:58.060
see each other and so they have to pick uh a match based off of their conversations and so
00:42:03.720
they normally talk to a handful of people before they pick the person so it's like a death match
00:42:08.420
look at this this looks so dystopian it's basically like look it's in an octagon and everything it's
00:42:13.820
like a sick uh twist on what what was that old show called where it was like match game or whatever
00:42:20.240
or the one that jeffrey dahmer went on or whatever are we back to the cannibal no but but he went on
00:42:26.460
this thing how many shows about cannibals do you watch no there this is like a thing some maybe
00:42:31.080
it wasn't jeffrey dahmer he's known about the furries he's known about donner they're going
00:42:35.620
out yeah but this happens to be a crossover it's like one of those sick games where you don't see
00:42:40.400
the person and you have to ask questions but they do it for like days yes and then they decide to get
00:42:46.400
married right away so you're in the pod for a long time and you just talk to people it's like a
00:42:50.560
telephone call more or less yeah i think that do they type or it's no it's voice oh hey being
00:42:56.340
love is blind is yes yeah so the idea is they interact only by voice and then they can send each
00:43:02.180
other stuff to infinity with people they can send each other notes and stuff and gifs but like they
00:43:07.380
can't send each other instagram handles or anything no i don't think they i don't think they
00:43:11.280
have phones i could be wrong i'm gonna get like blasted by girls okay so there is a little bit
00:43:16.400
i've got to give them credit there's some creativity here it's not just okay it's still
00:43:20.060
a complete waste of time but we're getting closer to some redemptive value it's interesting for the
00:43:25.100
viewer because you can always tell when somebody's not going to be a good match but they think they're
00:43:29.660
a good match so and then you waste 45 minutes watching and then they're like oh yeah and then
00:43:34.620
you're like you're like oh i can't wait for them to meet because they're going to hate each other
00:43:37.780
when they meet can i of course love's not blind who came up with this stupid idea yeah it's extremely
00:43:42.140
dumb okay but it's anyway okay so i feel it's important to remind people st paul said you
00:43:47.620
should only get married if you have like the overwhelming hots for somebody this last season
00:43:51.040
i agree there was a solomon it's better to marry than to burn there was a guy who like look you know
00:43:55.980
you just knew he wasn't gonna like the girl and he saw the girl and he's like he's he's just trying
00:43:59.420
to get out of it then because he like committed to marrying her and so after he saw he's like you
00:44:03.980
could just tell he's like trying to find a way but he spent like five episodes trying to get out
00:44:08.600
of it yeah okay so so so so they stay they talk and then they they commit to marriage
00:44:15.820
yeah marriage without seeing the other one yes yeah oh yeah so what happens if she's like a horse
00:44:24.260
that's what i'm saying the guy showed up and he's like i don't know if i really like below my standards
00:44:28.960
and then he's trying to get out of it from that point okay because then they have to go live together
00:44:32.760
this is incredible daisy just sent this to me i just want to read it quick they aren't supposed to
00:44:37.060
talk about appearance but one season a guy asked a girl if hypothetically we met at a music festival
00:44:42.820
would i be able to put you on my shoulders that's smart that's smart but you can't ask height or weight
00:44:49.200
you're not supposed to ask about or like race either i think you have to you have to guess by
00:44:52.820
their intonation got it so their nasal so so let me understand so then the uh the the the moment that
00:45:03.360
we saw that went viral with liberal becky yeah was they never saw each other before that moment
00:45:11.420
do they do they only meet at the altar or do they meet in like the days is there a pre-meeting
00:45:16.840
there's like a daisy says no wrong there's a says i'm typing oh so they meet one time before there's a
00:45:22.680
room where they meet and i think they can propose at that exact moment they can meet if they get
00:45:27.560
engaged they don't have to get engaged i think they just have to so the engagement allows them
00:45:33.760
to meet the person they're going to marry do some people call off the engagement oh yeah they meet
00:45:38.500
them oh yeah probably a majority and then they go on a trip together for a week or so yeah and they
00:45:43.480
have to like live together which is yeah also yeah of course yeah so then they basically live
00:45:47.840
together for a few weeks okay so then what we saw and then um they they date in person for six
00:45:54.840
weeks until they get married i just read that andrew daisy's daisy is the uh pop culture person
00:46:00.000
so then at the altar they decide what they just they whether to get married if they're gonna go
00:46:05.640
hang out let me understand this so in this before we get into the clip these two people invited their
00:46:09.880
entire families on camera to like have this public humiliation ritual based on something that might
00:46:16.880
not happen i think they all they're sick i think they all have to meet the families no but like
00:46:21.780
they invite them to the wedding that may or may not happen yeah and all these people like yeah we
00:46:26.200
might be on camera and in front of like 100 million people well a lot of these families meet them
00:46:31.560
beforehand so like during the time that they're hanging out before they get married like some of
00:46:35.360
the families get like overly involved so like really know a lot about a sibling will like hey i know
00:46:42.140
this one specific couple because it was hilarious watching this guy see this girl and you could tell
00:46:47.680
like he's really into really into it and they met and he's like oh that's not my i'm just amazed
00:46:53.240
people still watch tv the big the big picture here which has to be brought up is are people who watch
00:46:59.820
reality tv humans it's trash tv this is 100 we gotta get to the because we're we're crescendoing to
00:47:07.240
the cliff okay we're building it's it's like this is we're it's an orchestra okay bum bum bum bum bum like
00:47:13.120
it's we're building okay okay okay like we're flying down the trench towards i guarantee you most
00:47:17.580
of our audience have never heard of this stupid thing before okay i guarantee you they have
00:47:20.780
a lot of our audience has taken hillsdale online courses okay we have an enlightened little remnant
00:47:26.620
of american society they're just gonna read classic literature pray the rosary i'm telling you right
00:47:31.260
now a little remnant they're studying aristotle when half of the other audiences all right all right
00:47:37.480
tell us chat have you watched love is blind or at least heard of love is blind if you ever heard of
00:47:42.580
the show email me freedom at charliekirk.com can i just oh my gosh and if so you should be taxed
00:47:47.720
you're gonna have somebody you guys are like never no i have it no but i want to make a pitch though
00:47:53.180
to defend the people who have including myself that have been on the show or no there's just not very
00:47:58.940
much good tv left like netflix is a barren waste so this is great so we turn to this because it's
00:48:04.340
awesome they're cheap they just all they do is cheap stuff i have like that i use netflix i used it for
00:48:09.760
one thing and then it got unuseful for seinfeld seinfeld reruns yeah and they got i think they
00:48:14.080
still have it i i bought them all during covid and then i gotta watch them hulu has fraser now
00:48:19.360
oh yeah so i got hulu for fraser and seinfeld for netflix and everything else is netflix can we just
00:48:25.460
pause how awful netflix has become last five years it's not you guys should cancel the subscription if
00:48:30.560
you're watching this crap it's such a waste have you canceled there's no because i'm fine and i like
00:48:37.040
seinfeld for me by the way i don't i don't want people to complain about their financial situation
00:48:41.100
which i'm not i'm very blessed if you're paying for netflix i don't pay for a single subscription
00:48:46.060
service for the record i also used it to watch the thanksgiving football game of which they did a
00:48:51.660
terrible job promoting there is no way you don't have a single subscription i mean well i mean i have
00:48:56.720
like my power bill but like i don't have a streaming service i don't have i don't have a spot i don't
00:49:02.220
have spotify i do not not have a single subscription like what like power is not a subscription i'm
00:49:10.360
gonna make you download whatever that app is like we no free ads here for that uh no like what i
00:49:16.080
don't have i don't have ads in netflix now i don't have amazon prime there's an app that looks up
00:49:20.380
all your subscriptions you don't have spotify i don't have see i have all of these uh i'm like i
00:49:25.820
don't have any tv i have a million i don't have like i got i don't have microsoft i got fubu i
00:49:31.540
don't have microsoft gaming i don't have any other video game ones i got netflix i got amazon i got
00:49:37.300
youtube tv i've made a bunch of people a lot of money i don't have like i'm not in like dollar
00:49:41.140
shave club or whatever that stuff is where they like send you a razor every month um oh i've got
00:49:46.340
like amazon kindle i'm not on i don't have kindle i don't have audible brooks is on xbox i've got
00:49:53.140
serious xm i'm with andrew i hate not wanting to watch a sporting event and not having it i
00:49:58.780
and then that's why i peacock i get these emails from peacock i don't care about peacock but the
00:50:03.360
peacock takes the big time which is now oregon it's the whole thing's all the complicated prime
00:50:07.100
v i will i will say prime video is good i agree prime is great you know why i like prime i could
00:50:12.100
purchase movies i want to watch yeah and you keep them forever the best of all is youtube tv
00:50:16.400
youtube tv is the best yeah it's objectively for live tv it has great coverage okay so back to the love
00:50:22.040
is blind i can't believe you don't have a subscription i i i don't think that's crazy
00:50:25.560
you don't have a magazine subscription that's like cannibalism i read magazines are you a cannibal
00:50:30.300
i'm like i'm not subscribed to like any like online websites which is why i always have to figure
00:50:35.120
out how to get around people's paywalls why do you even have an email not gaming what what do you
00:50:38.940
have an email i always watch you get any spam that's a subscription that's not a no it's not
00:50:43.540
free that's free do you have tsa pre nope why would i need tsa pre check that one i almost got
00:50:50.540
them that one is a subscription what about uber i don't what about uber plus no uber eats i take
00:50:56.420
uber like only for turning point times where i have to fly and get to the airport and like that's it
00:50:59.800
uber eats i don't i don't think i've had i don't think i've gotten a meal delivered by uber eats or
00:51:04.920
doordash since i came to arizona i've been here two years like has turning point eats it's a lot
00:51:10.320
better yeah it's way better it's way better crazy i can't believe this is this is how this is how
00:51:15.080
one amasses capital as a millennial they avoid the eight million different millennial like consumption
00:51:20.720
taxes all right that that's my that's me so speaking of the show i am trying to send so then
00:51:25.440
let's play this piece of tape so let me understand so the all culminates with liberal woman and beta
00:51:32.720
male dude kind of on the altar in this incredibly viral clip let's play the longer clip and keep all
00:51:41.120
of us live guys let's play it i love you so much
00:51:45.860
but i've always wanted a partner to be on the same wavelength
00:51:57.180
at the music boom i love you so much and i want to stay with you and keep growing our relationship
00:52:09.340
all of america no no we got to keep playing it no no that's not even there's a couple more clips
00:52:15.580
yeah by the way i would have told her to get out of here and yeah cash my check from love is blind
00:52:19.920
and go away all of america lost total respect for this dude he just looked like such apparently they
00:52:24.420
continue to date for weeks after this even like she was like i can't get married now but like they
00:52:29.620
kept dating which daisy informs us of because she's a watcher of love is blind okay
00:52:35.220
do we have the kicker where she's sitting around her liberal relatives in the car yeah so they asked
00:52:41.300
him to like what his church's views are and he said he didn't know and so then i watched a sermon
00:52:51.320
online from his church about yeah sexual identity okay and it was traditional i told that oh my god
00:52:59.800
then and he said he doesn't really have much to say about it you know and lots of them to think
00:53:06.640
about that stuff sometimes i did wonder if it was surface fun carefree love that we had equality
00:53:18.520
the vaccine the vaccine the vaccine of course the vaccine so i've commented on this extensively
00:53:26.520
the guy is at fault here for a not standing up for himself be not leaving her jack i know you're an
00:53:33.240
avid love is blind fan what is your oh yeah yeah take on an episode
00:53:37.720
yeah no i mean look this this kind of goes back to you know funny enough like it goes back to what i
00:53:47.500
was saying in the other segment where we've just got too many people in this country that have this
00:53:52.040
fried mental model that are like over socialized uh people are way too invested in politics into their
00:53:59.300
personal lives uh they they bring these things out and they bring these things up as if it's some kind
00:54:05.000
of like deep-seated um commitment to them and and and look you know i i certainly want you know people
00:54:11.560
to understand what's going on in their country but the idea that you're gonna run your entire life over
00:54:16.640
what someone's views on like elm are or or some you know some kind of like like and if you're just
00:54:23.700
like some normie like that's that's not actually a good situation for the country right like we don't
00:54:28.540
want to be so over politicized we want people to be getting married and having kids and sort of going
00:54:34.280
on about their life and they're having their quality of life be you know somewhat stable and
00:54:38.080
living in a a system that's somewhat stable so the fact that the fact that politics in general is
00:54:43.500
so mainstreamed is it just kind of shows how bad things have gotten up into this point you know up
00:54:49.020
through 20 the 2024 moment the 2020 moment obviously because in in a stable society you know people are
00:54:56.260
just kind of going about their lives and you're not going to be mixing politics with like a dating show
00:55:01.960
go back to uh what was the old um oh my gosh the dating show on mtv uh back in the day like the
00:55:08.400
original dating show the one that sean duffy was on singled out thank you singled out singled out got
00:55:13.700
me in the chat um and like you would never ever hear anyone talk about politics on a dating show in
00:55:20.380
the 90s it literally didn't exist it's like what music do you listen to what movies do you like
00:55:25.800
that's awesome you know and just just just not a thing yeah and uh yeah everyone's chatting that's
00:55:32.460
uh uh sean duffy and his wife actually met on the real world which was the original uh reality tv show
00:55:38.440
uh rachel compost duffy and their incredible family and obviously incredible relationship
00:55:42.500
um that actually started on another reality show also on mtv called the real world so
00:55:47.800
and the real world did start to edge into the political and religious stuff but not so that was
00:55:53.920
like the whole point i think because like the idea was they try to put like a bunch of people who are
00:55:57.820
different because like sean duffy's season i just because i looked him up once was like he had they
00:56:02.820
had a person in their house like who because sean duffy was like conservative at the time yeah and
00:56:07.140
then like they had a person who was like had aids so he was like you know because this is the early 90s
00:56:11.380
and so that was much more taboo then but but jack's right like the old dating shows were so much more
00:56:17.060
like fluffy and just fun and stupid right and like just like you never would get that deep that wasn't
00:56:23.500
the point it was like that was it the real world was the first like real reality show which really
00:56:29.820
goes out the truth of this which is the cosmic thing that's important which is one reality tv is
00:56:35.260
actually fake and two people who watch reality tv should not be allowed to vote sorry tyler oh yeah
00:56:43.920
we're we're we're revoking it like i i am on now that i i don't watch reality tv yet i will continue
00:56:50.300
my jihad against reality tv there's no reality tv that that like is okay to you a decade ago i watched
00:56:58.040
a few episodes of bar rescue because i kind of enjoyed the part where he would explain like how to
00:57:02.340
run a bar correctly like the business side of it was cool but then i realized it was all fake because
00:57:06.620
i saw a preview for an episode and they were like this bar is out of control and the the owner was
00:57:13.340
like a clearly staged shot i like he just like she's like why are you carrying it that way and he slaps
00:57:19.580
like a tray out of someone's hand i think the survival shows are fun but i mean i'm trying to think of the
00:57:27.080
last reality tv show i've watched is american idol reality tv i i feel like that's a considerate no i
00:57:33.060
would say no i would say no i don't even think the apprentice is a reality tv i disagree because
00:57:38.780
it's like a it's a contest american idol for four or five seasons was a game shows are not reality
00:57:44.420
yeah american idol was a good show the first five seasons well i think it was a great show i think
00:57:49.160
american idol is cool because we also had some from our high school win so that was yeah you actually
00:57:53.080
had to like achieve something yeah we had someone from our high school literally win it was amazing
00:57:57.200
yeah what's her face i was here in arizona hayley reinhardt uh was her name oh yeah denny wright
00:58:01.380
says that i am a tv snob and they are correct although snob snob is almost uh overselling i just don't watch tv
00:58:08.260
i think the i like i like even though it's a little bit fake too is uh like naked and afraid and those
00:58:13.660
ones like the survival there's survival it's it's cool to watch what was the other way are they gonna die
00:58:19.740
there's a cameraman next to him they're not gonna let him die yeah like oh wow but they do lose a
00:58:24.360
lot of weight yeah that should be like today's fat camp that would be cool like yeah no angelo likes
00:58:29.940
the gold mining reality shows what are these shows i never thought those are really bad i'm sorry
00:58:35.000
angelo we're gonna shame you like those are the ones on the history channel where they do much time
00:58:38.380
on ice road truckers what was so done with ice road truckers is the entire conceit of ice road
00:58:43.640
truckers is like this is a super dangerous job and like the only reason to watch is in theory
00:58:48.360
the ice could break and they would like die but that never happens so what's the point of all of
00:58:56.060
andrew says this blake you play more video games than i watch tv which is worse uh one i don't think
00:59:01.940
that's actually true and two like who cares actually probably watching tv is worse like i actually think
00:59:09.880
watching tv could be worse yeah like you're just literally just there an inert passive observer i think
00:59:14.780
they're both irredeemable but i what i will say is the uh i think the cdc or whoever when they were
00:59:21.220
doing one of their obesity warnings they were commenting on how much tv is america tv americans
00:59:26.280
watched and they were like suggesting you should be more active and one of their ways to suggest being
00:59:31.200
more active for the the truly hopeless watch 40 hours of tv a week was try playing video games instead
00:59:37.760
because you at least like move your hands i i have a different take i think video games are worse
00:59:42.960
because i think veg out tv like when you're going to sleep or whatever i think a lot of people do
00:59:48.000
that doesn't take away as much other than your sleep which is health concern yeah video games can
00:59:53.640
have a ramp up video games you have to like go remove yourself from reality sit in a box and be
01:00:00.300
there and then the other thing with video games is this is like it's so lonely do you play computer
01:00:04.160
games or do you play like console video games i play some console games not super often what like
01:00:08.040
what is xbox still around it's still around i don't own one well i don't know playstation still
01:00:12.340
around yeah what do you play so when kids say they play video games what what do they play oh that
01:00:16.840
would vary a ton i mean what's the most popular today fortnight probably or what what what console
01:00:21.980
is that in those are on everything nowadays like the big thing today is every game is on every system
01:00:26.920
i play with no because i grew up in a world where halo was only on xbox yeah yeah that's not only
01:00:32.060
nintendo games are like that and then i turned 18 that's like this is a waste of time i'm gonna go
01:00:35.140
build something yeah halo is still only on xbox but really so that's not on playstation no that's
01:00:39.760
isn't that on pc now no it's on pc so not everything's on everything but can we play the halo music it's
01:00:45.820
really good keep going well and the guys oh i never played well yeah i haven't played it in we played
01:00:51.400
11 13 years we played halo like it was our day job in high school that's how we played so is call of
01:00:56.740
duty still around called so i'll play call of duty with brooks so i play call of duty and uh i'm
01:01:01.980
i'm bad but there's some fun games on there yeah there's some there's so many now and like a lot of
01:01:08.880
them like i will deliberately avoid because they can be such an addictive time sink like they'll play
01:01:13.420
they play those like paradox strategy games where you're just like conquering the world and people
01:01:17.840
will play like 5 000 hours of that i'll play with brooks uh like madden or a hockey game because it's
01:01:24.840
it's like 15 minutes you sit down you play a game and you're out that's not hate this is not halo
01:01:31.260
no play the original you know what i'm talking about yeah the halo yeah seriously even i know that
01:01:38.040
by the way the guy that wrote the halo song is like a winger we talked about that yeah yeah
01:01:41.300
in vegas he didn't win unfortunately he came in like fourth place the original halo song
01:01:46.440
uh exactly right okay so it's a gregorian chant martin o'donnell marty o'donnell he came in like
01:01:55.580
third or fourth place trump supported by the way he's in vegas he was a cd this is this is good
01:02:02.860
music this that you know what you know why this is good music it feels like you're on a home screen
01:02:08.300
oh my gosh it feels as if you're going through settings and you know it it has that kind of aura
01:02:13.640
we we used to play all night long in my in my parents basement we would we would please
01:02:19.060
sync up xboxes and we would play you know whatever that what was that map blood gulch
01:02:26.280
and i'm trying to think of the other one there was like misty mountain or something oh man oh yeah
01:02:31.160
yeah i remember that one we played there was one called damn nation that we played i gotta look
01:02:35.320
that wasn't correct we played capture the flag people are now listing off random games and the
01:02:39.500
people are listing age of empires i do still play i'm gonna tell you right now which is still
01:02:42.800
awesome i'm gonna tell you right now because they released battle creek battle creek yeah
01:02:45.800
there was the big one too oh hang them high was hang them high was good but there was this one game
01:02:51.340
this map you can play on the new halo because they have it and they just revamped and redid all the
01:02:56.020
the originals damnation one flag capture the flag okay so what is roblox roblox should be i think it's
01:03:05.680
like a platform so like people can make games in it uh so is that on xbox i think that's again it's
01:03:12.760
on like everything that's a lot of kids get really into roblox so what what is the purpose of fortnight
01:03:17.460
what what is what is fortnight what is the thesis fortnight the gimmick of it was it popularized they
01:03:22.980
call them battle royales and so the idea was a hundred people would be in a game at once so that's
01:03:28.020
like the leero jenkins thing no that's world of warcraft so this is like a hundred people would be in a
01:03:32.660
game at once which is way more like you know halo you could be like 4v4 at best but this was
01:03:36.900
you can have a hundred people and it's called a battle royale so they go to only one is left
01:03:40.860
um it has other game modes they've added over time too i know what makes it popular is like
01:03:46.260
you can be like any character in it at this point so like you can be spider-man you can be mario you
01:03:51.940
can be like there's a million different characters that you can be well and now call of duty is doing
01:03:56.800
that yeah exactly so call of duty now i you can be a ninja turtle no great i just
01:04:02.020
okay so call of duty that's crazy so basically my my takeaway is that nothing has really changed
01:04:11.280
the same games are still basically the same popular games yeah but they're really nice dude
01:04:15.160
charlie i i completely agree with you oh okay i've made the same thought no i i'm not please jack
01:04:22.420
affirm me because i am a i'm a stranger in the wilderness so my kids um you know my kids are
01:04:29.560
kind of at the age where they're starting to like to get you know like video game curious
01:04:32.980
uh we don't have games in the house but they'll like you know we we have like a like a one of
01:04:38.980
those smart tvs and so they could see they could see kind of like you know videos of people playing
01:04:43.200
games or they'll they'll go through the store and look at games and you look at stuff and you're
01:04:47.720
like okay minecraft is just a ripoff of legos in 3d roblox is just a ripoff of minecraft uh there's
01:04:55.880
another one uh actually cernovich was telling me about it the other day that his kids are into
01:04:59.840
and i looked into it and i'm like this is just a ripoff of all the same games again and then when
01:05:05.380
you go and look at like the actual popular non sort of like building things games it's literally all
01:05:11.620
the same characters that were popular in like the late 80s early 90s it's like here's another mario
01:05:18.220
here's another sonic here's another ninja turtles and on and on and on and it's like the one uh i'll
01:05:26.080
throw it out like the one that the only one that i've heard that's like kind of new is five nights
01:05:29.780
at freddy's which i'm not even going to get into right now but like the vast majority of games that
01:05:34.900
you go out and see right now like just you know walking through the aisle looking i'm like wait a
01:05:39.160
minute these are all the exact same games and characters that were around like 30 years ago
01:05:44.240
what about the but the only like we brought up the battle royale thing did change everything but
01:05:50.900
other than that there was like no changes so but let me list it off okay so the most popular games
01:05:55.340
of 2025 call of duty i had that and then i grew up madden had that final fantasy 8 rebirth which
01:06:03.600
existed ea sports fc 25 i'm guessing is soccer yeah and then minecraft literally nothing has and then
01:06:12.080
grand theft auto is the great gta was huge and i was growing up that's still so grand theft no
01:06:17.020
grand theft auto 5 is the most successful entertainment property of any kind of all time
01:06:22.380
well it says tetris is more popular no they're they're wrong uh gta 5 has sold like i think over
01:06:28.920
100 million copies there's a 200 million here but yeah oh 200 million yeah there's a new grand theft
01:06:33.840
auto coming out yeah everybody's looking forward one thing that's wild with this is it take one
01:06:37.840
reason it's all the same old stuff is it takes them like you know how we can't do anything in
01:06:41.720
america anymore because it costs 15 times as much as it used to same thing with video games so you
01:06:46.480
used to make a mario game with a team of 20 people and it took which one was grand theft auto 5 was
01:06:50.760
that la yeah yeah or they they don't call it la but it was like san andreas los santos los santos in
01:06:56.700
the state of san andreas so they have not done a new grand theft auto in 12 years yeah a long time
01:07:01.340
and like it used to let me ask you i have the graphics gotten better in 12 years uh they don't they
01:07:06.520
look the same a bit but it slowed down a lot like it used to be you really could tell you know
01:07:11.620
it goes 2d yeah like the shadow dimensions and stuff looks largely the same i mean even
01:07:16.320
most games that come out today like on place they're on playstation 5 now most games that
01:07:21.060
come out on playstation 5 will also still have a playstation 4 version well it's just slightly
01:07:25.420
not i don't know call of duty looks a lot better than it was a few years ago i wouldn't know but
01:07:29.940
but i'll tell you this red dead redemption is that the is that red dead redemption 2 that came
01:07:34.840
out like a decade ago that came out a while ago but that is a fun game that's like grand theft auto
01:07:39.800
but it's in the wild west you're on a horse you're on a horse that's actually fun like brooks was
01:07:44.420
playing that for a little bit you can just mess around and just like hijack horses and stuff like
01:07:48.400
that so the video game i went all in on was star star wars knights of the old republic anyone else
01:07:54.560
know that yes i remember that yeah that was that was a lotar yes at the time wasn't that the most
01:07:59.480
expensive were you light side or dark side charlie you were a kotar guy wait one or two uh i think one
01:08:05.700
uh yeah okay no i tried two and i hated it it was definitely one it was definitely one two was
01:08:09.940
like rushed one did really well and then two was like super rushed it was like kind of unfinished and
01:08:14.020
they used a different um like developer so so hold on it was it was it was it was called a massively
01:08:19.840
multiplayer online role-playing series what what was it was the kotor was just a i know i never played
01:08:27.320
the online what is an rpg role-playing game which means you could have different directions like you
01:08:32.160
yeah and like you level up your character that you adjust their stats but they make different
01:08:36.000
paths that yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah and then mmorpg massively multiplayer online role-playing
01:08:41.700
games when there's hundreds of people thousands of people not interested in that but yes i uh i took
01:08:46.400
the dark side i think i think knights of the old republic i think that was like the most expensive
01:08:50.260
game ever made when they made it it was like it's supposed to be like you might be thinking of
01:08:53.760
the old republic with just the old republic which was that was an mmorpg that they made it
01:08:58.980
the old republic was the was the online one the tortanic they called it hold on wait wait maybe
01:09:04.220
i'm confused which one is which so knights of the old republic was your one player it has a story
01:09:09.760
and everything yeah and then there was one called just the old republic i didn't do which came out a
01:09:13.980
decade later and was like massively hyped and we won't go into that public came out in 2003 and i'm
01:09:18.900
looking at images of it it looks as good as video games today like that that is not true i think i'm
01:09:23.800
sorry i'm just looking i think they've made that on vr yeah i think they've made this the that game
01:09:28.820
on vr like a maybe a cheaper version that was an objectively good video game it was good but it it
01:09:34.180
does not look like what they're putting out today i will i will contest that one like the last big leap
01:09:39.260
i would say like it's probably about 10 years ago and then since then yeah they improved but it's on
01:09:46.220
the margins and they're like oh you need to have a 4k tv to see this yeah i i've always wanted so one of
01:09:53.300
the games so the games within the games like on call of duty if you've never played this this is
01:09:58.720
the only time i've sat and played something by myself and it was with with my son with brooks
01:10:04.880
is the zombies thing that is like actually creepy like it gets to different points where if like you're
01:10:10.980
in a dark room and all that stuff it like creeps you out while you're doing it it's interesting
01:10:15.600
all right really quick on daylight savings then we got to run all right well we have to revisit
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this topic because abolish first of all had daylight savings time inflicted on us indirectly
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because we got shifted back to pacific time and then you know i'm i think we should keep arizona
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on pacific time yes no i agree tyler and i are in complete 100 you feel off i feel like i totally
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agree i definitely feel off now that i'm three hours behind eastern i love being it's terrible no you
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know why because it's seven o'clock eastern right now and everyone's going to bed and i got a couple
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hours to get all my thoughts organized do some text do some emails and then if i wake up at 7 30
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the east coast has already sent all their messages to me so i'm waking up to all of their work
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it's it is it is more efficient but what if you had to wake up at 4 a.m charlie i'm not i'm not a
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trader like i'm not a hedge fund manager but you know but charlie what if what if for example you
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had to pre-tape your show at an early hour yes blake for the record i've woken up at ungodly hours
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many times for 13 years okay i've taken more 6 a.m flights than i think any person on the planet
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besides pilots and flight attendants um so but yes so let me just make sure i understand the the
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pushes to eradicate any time switch in the winter is that the push is the time switch we are on the
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switch time right now so this is the normal time is no normal time is in the winter the daylight savings
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times oh no no we should keep it how it is right now no no so that you see this is where we are at
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war charlie this is a bunch jack and i are at war with you see see what we want forget the pacific
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time what we want though is you know how beautiful it was in dc dc's a terrible place it's sodom it's
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awful no it's not beautiful in dc you know how beautiful it was always the sun's setting at 7 30
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now yeah it's amazing everyone was happier chipper chipper everyone was like more pleasant why would
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we not want the sun to be out longer charlie the sun is out the same amount of time no not if
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actually the same amount of time if you wake up at 5 30 it is if you're a farmer yeah which most
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people aren't charlie the farmers don't like the standard time that we use was set by i know the
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farmers don't like daylight saving because they get up early okay the here's the thing listen
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the the and by the way the sun is not out the same amount of time all year that's not true
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but it's out the same amount of time regardless of what whether we use do it's at the same time
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regardless of we're not first of all it's not it's not technically true if you design your
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hold on it's not technically true if you design your day around eastern time of which i do because
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i have a radio show so the sun that's not exactly charlie the the sun will be above the horizon the
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same amount of time whether you are on daylight savings time or not i assure you yeah no matter
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what charlie does you guys are technically are correct the same amount of time you guys are
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technically correct okay but it gets longer throughout the year however however if you
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configure if you configure your clock back or forward a day then you adjust your own circadian
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rhythm i like the sun in the evening yeah sun in evening i am team sun and evening charlie when
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the sun is going down in the evening is when god was telling us that we should be preparing
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ourselves for rest by bringing darkness to the world and when we engage in daylight savings time
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we rebel against god and that is the sin of pride wait so you're trying to just understand that so for
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eight months out of the year we are on we are on daylight savings time for eight months out of the year
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oh okay i i get them confused and it was invented and it didn't used to be this long by the way
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communist democrats andrew's all confused too daily savings time was invented by democrats i don't care
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who invented what i like it i like it i like i like the beautiful the i like the beautiful evening
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charlie kirk's gonna go back in time to make sure that like fdr gets elected to six terms as president
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to reward all i know is that there's more sunlight because we change the clocks in the evening
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we need to have huberman on about this he's he's he's on our side with this yeah huberman's 100%
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correct yeah huberman's all screwed up on this okay i mean he's like oh you want morning sun you
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know what i like evening sun evening sun's very good for you morning morning for the record he says
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both are good but both morning and evening sun could be good for you but you can get evening sun no
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matter what why wouldn't you this is really basic stuff why wouldn't you i think society
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functions better when you can go home from work and spend time with your family everyone is happy
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when we spring ahead why would you want to go home in the dark every all year long you can spend time
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with your family even in the morning that's not true some people have to have like to go spend time
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with your kids most people they have to work nine to five and at nine to five you're going to have
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more so you leave at dark get home at dark i think that's crazy that's crazy it's crazy
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or you leave in the morning who cares you're stressed you have to go to work go home spend
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time in your front yard or your backyard swinging in the swings with your kids from six to eight
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p.m completely and i will just note by the way charlie like you are aware that the sun is going
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down at the same time here in arizona regardless because i am aware but it changes based on your
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configuration yeah that's what's funny is that like the the arizona guys are all up in arms over it
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but i feel actually doesn't affect them at all it does if you are on eastern position time it doesn't
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i have to wake up now an hour earlier because of time changing yeah and charlie's right too you feel
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different so it's either you're going to feel one way or the other i'm just telling you i've lived here
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my whole life i feel off when it's more mountain time i hate it i agree i hate it i i like being three
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hours behind i see all the news of the day i'm processing it has good incoming i and by the way
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we end the show at 11 a.m you know how awesome that is i had the whole day ahead of me yep all
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right with that everybody keep on committing thought crimes and i will personally lobby the president
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to keep it lighter later reject talk to you soon