Impaulsive with Logan Paul - BOW HUNTER CAMERON HANES SHOOTS TO KILL - IMPAULSIVE EP. 52

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00:02:02.340 Do you carry a handgun with you?

00:02:03.700 No, I don't.

00:02:04.380 As well? No, you don't?

00:02:05.400 I don't. The way I look at it is, if I'm out there trying to kill an animal, and in turn, it kills me.

00:02:13.380 Fair game.

00:02:13.900 That was just the way it went down.

00:02:14.880 Fair play.

00:02:15.260 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:15.680 reading all these tweets right now dude oh on the flat earth dude it's non-stop

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00:03:51.140 managed to secure the bag ladies and gentlemen introducing our guest he is an under armor

00:03:56.420 athlete a backcountry bow hunter a mountain marathon runner and a real man's man ladies

00:04:02.700 and gentlemen it's cameron haynes i broke out the plan for this one cameron thanks guys i got

00:04:09.420 my denim on for this one, Cameron.

00:04:11.180 I see that.

00:04:11.960 I see that.

00:04:12.720 You're a real mountain, man.

00:04:13.540 You got plaid.

00:04:14.220 I know, bro.

00:04:15.380 It's Gucci plaid.

00:04:17.000 Don't give him too much credit.

00:04:19.040 I see that also.

00:04:20.160 I was sitting on the couch this morning,

00:04:22.300 just strumming on the guitar.

00:04:23.940 And by the way,

00:04:24.260 I never wear like this outfit,

00:04:25.660 just a straight Midwest outfit.

00:04:27.380 Evan comes down, our roommate.

00:04:28.540 He goes, 1.00

00:04:29.560 the fuck is wrong with you? 1.00

00:04:31.100 I was like, yo, I'm good. 1.00

00:04:32.320 I broke out the plaid.

00:04:33.360 So, yo, good to see you.

00:04:34.760 Good to meet you guys.

00:04:35.580 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:04:36.220 You too, man.

00:04:36.780 thank you for coming to uh good old encino california yeah where are you from i'm from

00:04:41.320 oregon can you can you silence your phone why do you always do that bro um oregon yeah yeah eugene

00:04:46.380 oregon yep i've been there once yeah beautiful yeah what why were you there oh looks like i did

00:04:53.360 something good the controversial youtuber did something good i was there because uh there was

00:04:57.560 a kid who has the same name as me a child baby the baby infant child and uh his parents could

00:05:03.140 afford his um medical bill because he had some sort of problem and they were fearing for his

00:05:08.840 life so i traveled there and i paid their uh medical bill to save little baby logan paul

00:05:13.600 is that serious yeah wait he had the both names his name was logan paul that's why it was like a

00:05:19.040 like i don't know it's carry on the name type thing and wow it's amazing yeah that's uh generous

00:05:25.420 um but i heard you talking to my dad who by the way connected us yeah greg paul sitting over there

00:05:31.200 You want to hit him real quick, Hunter?

00:05:32.440 Shout out Greg.

00:05:32.960 Maybe show Greg Paul in the...

00:05:34.260 There is GP in the flesh.

00:05:36.260 Oh, with the Mavericks.

00:05:37.180 Yeah, he probably just switched out of the RMBO on the way over here. 0.99

00:05:40.140 You traitor. 1.00

00:05:40.940 You traitor. 1.00

00:05:43.060 But yeah, he connected us. 0.98

00:05:44.820 Yeah.

00:05:45.100 And I heard you talking to him out there.

00:05:47.040 And people nervous?

00:05:49.100 Or are you nervous to come on this show?

00:05:50.580 You're pretty controversial.

00:05:51.840 No, no, I'm not nervous.

00:05:53.440 But yeah, when I was talking about coming on here, it's like people might, you know,

00:05:57.680 I'm your dad's age.

00:05:58.780 So it was like your, your demographic is probably a little younger.

00:06:01.900 So my kids, I'm like, do you guys know who Logan Paul is?

00:06:04.760 They're like, Oh yeah.

00:06:05.860 I mean, they know people my age, if they know anything, it's like, isn't that kid?

00:06:11.380 That's pretty controversial.

00:06:12.900 And I'm like, Hey, whatever.

00:06:14.580 I mean, you know, we were all young and, and my whole thing is I love, uh, exposing people

00:06:20.860 to, to my world and that's archery and bow hunting.

00:06:23.600 And so I thought, you know, when I was your age, bow hunting was a huge part of my life

00:06:29.460 and changed my life and gave me direction.

00:06:32.200 So I like to share it when I can.

00:06:34.280 You're like the dead shot of bow hunters. 0.84

00:06:36.480 Yeah.

00:06:36.760 You don't miss, right?

00:06:38.580 No, everybody misses.

00:06:40.160 I mean, I think you used to miss.

00:06:42.260 Yeah.

00:06:42.540 I heard you can hit like five shots in a row from a thousand yards away or something like

00:06:46.300 that.

00:06:46.540 Yeah.

00:06:46.860 Yeah.

00:06:47.620 Roughly.

00:06:48.300 Something like that.

00:06:48.880 Pretty accurate stats.

00:06:50.320 We're the number one podcast in the world.

00:06:51.440 We don't really make up numbers here.

00:06:52.720 it's all about where did that come from because i i did hear that and i was i was gonna you know

00:06:57.440 my i'm buddies with rogan so i didn't know if he knew he was not at the top anymore i think the

00:07:02.820 easiest way to explain it is just like a mixture of both uh algorithmic science and also just like

00:07:07.700 high-end data and so um you know you'll see numbers about rogan and other people but at the

00:07:12.720 end of the day i mean we've done the research and so yeah oh so it's it's yeah it's proprietary i

00:07:18.020 can't really we can't really divulge a lot of that yeah that's a hell of a title though yeah i mean

00:07:22.340 thanks congratulations thank you so much congratulations to the fans for for bringing

00:07:25.860 us here it's it's really honestly incredible um and you are tight with rogan yeah you're like

00:07:30.320 really tight didn't you take him on his first uh bow hunt yeah yep we did and what was that like

00:07:36.240 it was just like this it was um he you know i think he sent out a tweet and he said hey

00:07:42.400 you know to me are you ever in la you want to come in and talk about training and bow hunting

00:07:47.660 and i'm like yeah let's do that i mean it's joe rogan right i mean he's the legend of course and

00:07:53.680 so i went there and and much like today i brought i took him a hoy bow same brand i shoot and got

00:07:59.760 him set up just like i did you today and uh you know from then on we started talking i'm like hey

00:08:05.780 you you know you he'd hunted before just a couple times with a rifle and i'm like would you be

00:08:11.400 interested in going on a bow hunt for bear and he was like yeah hell yeah let's do it so how long

00:08:16.900 ago was that? That was probably four or five years ago. Yeah. So that was his first bow hunt was bear

00:08:23.260 up in Alberta. And when you say bow, you mean a crossbow, is it a crossbow? No, compound. Compound

00:08:28.580 bow. Okay, cool. Can you explain? Yeah. You pull the bow back and then you release the string,

00:08:33.300 you know, crossbow. I've never even actually shot a crossbow. I know. Never? No, never. I know you

00:08:38.280 have. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Well, that's why this is also interesting because, um, you know, my dad

00:08:42.780 being from ohio man's man himself me also i still have that side of me that i hold very near and

00:08:47.540 dear to my heart everybody's got it in there it's deep in there some it's deeper than others but

00:08:52.040 it's in there for you should have seen the month when this kid went vegan it was like watching just

00:08:56.260 like a fish out of water dude he hated every second of it man no our vegan friend isn't here

00:09:01.400 normally we have uh spencer we're still missing you spencer but uh suspense uh yeah man he died

00:09:07.100 probably right because of vegan we don't know the cameraman's vegan too i don't know what second

00:09:12.320 he's gonna fall over he can keel over at any second dude hey if you need to catch you might

00:09:17.020 have to catch him so sorry so sorry andre doesn't think it's funny you know he's a good sport um

00:09:24.940 but yeah i grew up hunting um my dad introduced me to the world of hunting and um i actually did

00:09:33.260 drop a a doe with a a crossbow okay when i was like uh i think 10 yeah um and it's gonna be

00:09:40.080 very interesting to see what kind of response that gets because i i've mentioned i've grown

00:09:45.380 up hunting before never mentioned what that meant what that meant yeah i mean man especially now

00:09:51.860 with social media and everyone has a voice and these uh the people on the left especially i

00:09:57.820 find liberals are they're very vocal about about hunting um and not to jump around too much no no

00:10:04.720 But, you know, the thing is, is 97% of Americans eat meat, you know, to me as a hunter, it's like, at least we're honest about the meat we're eating.

00:10:13.520 We're like, hey, an animal died for this.

00:10:15.240 Some people, they'll go and they get steaks and burgers or whatever, and they don't want to accept the fact that an animal actually died.

00:10:20.940 Whereas hunters are like, hey, yeah, I can, I'm going to doing this.

00:10:25.680 I'm killing the animal.

00:10:26.660 I'm taking it back from my family. 1.00

00:10:27.900 and just like 97 of americans we're eating meat but we're doing the killing ourselves instead of 0.95

00:10:33.580 going down to the grocery store and you know essentially you're hiring somebody to kill for

00:10:37.440 you if you're buying it it's so such an inch because if you if you really look at it i mean

00:10:42.560 even the facts that spencer has given us about the meat industry and the way the animals are killed

00:10:46.880 slaughterhouses etc like if you buy me essentially you're uh a proponent of or or even you're and

00:10:54.360 and I speak from a place of never having hunted, just to give you some background. I'm kind of

00:10:58.800 middle aisle when it comes to politics for what that matters. But, um, you, I had come on and

00:11:05.000 hoping to kind of like, uh, channels what some of his thoughts are. But when I, when I even think

00:11:09.740 about it, like you are the responsible meat consumer now, does, does everything you hunt get

00:11:15.560 eaten? Yes. Okay. Yeah. Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, um, I'll, I hunt all fall and that's what

00:11:21.920 my family and i have three kids and you know that's what we eat all year and um still still

00:11:27.840 get beef also but uh you know if i am going to buy beef it's going to be from from a place that

00:11:34.500 i feel comfortable about how they you know ranch yeah and but for the most part is it's everything

00:11:41.240 that i kill and if uh somebody needs to meet more than me if there's a family that needs meat i give

00:11:46.060 it to them you know i always i feel like hunters have always been providers and so that's i take a

00:11:51.640 great pride in providing for for others if they need need to meet more than i do yeah but yeah

00:11:57.340 my my dad growing up uh we had a rule um because we had a cabin in southern ohio and we'd always

00:12:02.900 just run around and with you know like i hunted with like a blowgun sometimes a blow dart uh like

00:12:08.480 like a slingshot rabbit squirrels birds like everything but the rule was if we if i'll tell

00:12:15.500 that story in a second the rule was if we ever uh dropped an animal yeah we would have to eat all of

00:12:23.160 it and more so even we'd use the bones for stuff we would make sure it was being used to its fullest

00:12:28.640 potential instead of just taking a life that was our rule yeah it was kind of the the balance we

00:12:32.620 tried to find yeah is that the common practice with hunters that you find you do you think that

00:12:37.440 the majority of hunters in the country even abroad are following those kind of respectful guidelines

00:12:44.180 because i've read a lot about your uh dedication to respectful hunting and and practices do you

00:12:50.920 think that that's the the general rule or no i mean nobody not no group of people is perfect

00:12:57.200 right and no group of people is going to do it exactly the same way i mean you know i think

00:13:01.560 hunters we get beat up probably more than we deserve you know i mean you you in hollywood

00:13:07.120 here and you look at movies and the hunters but here's probably generally the bad guys yeah you

00:13:11.460 know i mean they're never showing the the honorable aspect of hunting so but for me and the people

00:13:17.680 that i spend time with and what i talk about it is it's it's i mean just like this this hat here

00:13:22.540 says train hunt provide honor that's that's what i do train hunt provide if people need it and honor

00:13:29.000 the animal it does every hunter do that probably not but you can't lump one group into into a

00:13:35.760 category like that so i think you know for the most part yeah i think most hunters do it right

00:13:41.900 and want to stand for the right things and uh yeah i mean it's it's just like i said it's an

00:13:47.520 honest way to eat meat but it's also a way to connect out in the mountains you know i mean

00:13:51.360 we get so inundated with just easily easy living anything we want we have and uh out there i just

00:14:01.440 think it's you know i mean you really connect you learn more about yourself you're in the mountains

00:14:06.060 that's where i feel more at home than than some you know a place like this i could tell with a

00:14:10.180 beard like that yeah yeah but it's all good you guys need to get out in the mountains some more

00:14:15.920 right god dang right for sure absolutely in fact we're going tomorrow to kawaii kawaii there you go

00:14:21.640 yeah we'll do some hiking up there but i won't do any hunting but we'll do some hiking kind of

00:14:26.240 connect a little bit yeah man i kind of i kind of uh kind of stopped and not to break your heart

00:14:30.820 father but uh i fell out of love with hunting yeah and it's i i when i dropped my first deer

00:14:37.500 it was a doe uh muzzleloader you know one shot yeah 100 100 yards plus um like i'm a little bit

00:14:44.740 of a sharpshooter that's pretty good uh i cried for the first time in my life of happiness yeah

00:14:50.480 little 10 9 10 year old logan cried tears of joy because of this elation i felt um and i didn't

00:14:58.000 know why. And then four or five years later, I started getting uninterested. Um, so what is it

00:15:04.980 about hunting that has kept you interested for 50 plus years? Um, it's, uh, you know, the challenge

00:15:12.260 is hard. It is hard. You know, people think, you know, and people don't know hunting think that

00:15:17.380 you go, you kill something every time you go out. It's just not how it works, especially with the

00:15:21.260 bow success rate if you know the thing i like to hunt most is big bull elk and um success rate on

00:15:28.600 bull elk is 10 so 90 of the guys fail after hunting all year so it's it's it's 10 of the

00:15:36.200 people that that do the things the right way that are hunting hard they're the ones that have elk

00:15:41.900 meat in their freezer the other guys hey it's better luck next year are they are they failing

00:15:46.060 in finding or are they failing in actually executing the the kill like what's the what's

00:15:50.980 the failure rate due to it's uh i mean it's a combination people fail for different reasons but

00:15:56.180 finding first of all you find the animal we're in the mountains so it's not easy are you stocking

00:16:02.200 are you i do i do okay some people call because you hunt the rut which is the breeding season for

00:16:07.360 elk so you can bugle or cow call and the bull if it's at the right scenario the bull will come in

00:16:13.440 to bow range hopefully so first you have to find them it's big countries in the mountains i mean

00:16:17.900 not to i just benchmark like i'm just imagining if i'm an elk and i'm just like oh i'm trying to

00:16:22.720 fuck bro it's it's it's mating season it's one time a year they do it and then i just i just get 0.99

00:16:28.140 shot in the heart yeah yeah that would suck it's rough you know life in the wild is rough 1.00

00:16:34.560 because an old bull an old bull is 10 years old so these things you know we got it pretty easy 0.96

00:16:41.260 here we live to what 70 80 life's good yeah you got uh i'm going for 150 by the way you got

00:16:46.760 nursing homes and everything else you know life in the wild it's it's once the once they are done

00:16:53.260 breeding their pastor breeding prime they're getting weak they're getting eaten by predators

00:16:57.320 killed by lions eaten by wolves and it's like yeah so it's i i hear what you're saying about hey

00:17:03.380 i'm trying to i'm trying to mate right yeah and i'm gonna get killed but life just in general

00:17:08.600 out there is tough i i saw your quote can you go down a little bit i was trying to pull up this

00:17:12.760 page but i i saw your quote from i think it was uh was it roosevelt or was it yeah probably

00:17:18.920 roosevelt and it was uh oh i did see that that was cool most wildlife dies of violence starvation

00:17:24.080 yeah and so in a way especially if you are i i'm assuming you're uh identifying the older

00:17:31.700 animals is that okay that's my goal so you potentially and it it's i'm really just trying

00:17:37.540 to understand a lot of this stuff you potentially are giving them an easier way out than they may

00:17:41.240 have had without it yeah i'm or more or more respectful or humane even yeah uh man is

00:17:47.820 compassionate animals are not compassionate i mean if you've looked on like nature is metal

00:17:52.960 and they have wild animals it's on instagram and they show like how brutal animals are oh yeah

00:17:59.060 it'll show stuff in africa and those animals will basically eat antelope or gazelles alive

00:18:04.520 you know so the wild dog what is the predator for the bull elk which is your there'd be lions

00:18:09.480 lions and wolves yeah mountain lions okay mountain lions yeah okay so and that that's what you know

00:18:15.060 like bears will follow so let's see when a cow elk gets pregnant it's going to drop its fawn

00:18:21.280 in the spring bears will follow the cows the herd around waiting for that fawn or the calf to drop

00:18:27.500 and and eat right right when the calf drops the bear will get in there and before it even

00:18:34.440 has done anything is dead and the bear's eating it. That's how life in the wild works. So whereas

00:18:39.680 on the flip side is man, it has compassion. My goal is to be a merciful hunter. I practice all

00:18:45.220 year. So when I get that chance to make the shot, it's a perfect shot. It's through the lungs,

00:18:49.640 the animal goes and it's dead in 10 seconds. Whereas if it's starvation or it's being killed

00:18:54.240 by a predator, that's an elongated process of it's going to be in pain and it's going to be

00:18:58.800 frightened and it's going to be you know having a bear kill you or a wolf nipping at your hamstrings

00:19:05.100 where you're trying to run away that's not i i'd rather much rather take an arrow through the long

00:19:09.280 can you describe the um the practice that you you take up in the in the rare case that you miss a

00:19:16.560 shot like what's what's that look like so if the arrow if you don't hit it perfect um an arrow

00:19:23.220 kills by hemorrhage a bullet kills by shock i only bow hunt um so what that means is i'm following a

00:19:30.560 blood trail so i'm using razor sharp broadheads i want to get it in the chest cavity i feel like

00:19:36.660 the arrow goes in the chest cavity i'm going to get it if i'm going to find the animal eventually

00:19:41.520 and kill it if um i made a poor shot and it's just grazes off the animal high low whatever

00:19:47.860 animals probably not going to if it i always think that if the animal is going to die i'm going to 0.98

00:19:52.940 get it so there's not one out there suffering it's it's if i'm so far off and it doesn't happen

00:19:59.100 often but this is bow hunting so it's not easy yeah but the animal is going to be a superficial

00:20:03.820 wound they're used to getting jabbed and antlers you know and different things going on they they

00:20:09.960 live out in the wild every single day they're pretty damn tough right so if if you just graze

00:20:15.160 one it's gonna be gonna be good to go okay but all right say you say you graze a bear yeah bear's 0.98

00:20:21.720 trying to fuck you graze a bear you kind of sort of miss maybe hit it hit the top of it it's a hit 0.99

00:20:25.900 its ass or something and the bear gets mad and it attacks you i'm talking like revenant style 1.00

00:20:31.280 leonardo dicaprio scene and you're getting attacked you cameron haynes are getting attacked 0.97

00:20:35.380 by a bear what do you do that's a rough one like like is that it is it you got you since you don't

00:20:41.820 use a a gun man no you know and i've never that's never happened i've i'm trying to think of all the

00:20:48.820 bears i've i've killed a lot of bear and they've all been one arrow kills perfect shots but there's

00:20:55.000 not everyone's perfect like you right i'm saying so do you carry a handgun with you no as well as

00:21:00.340 well no you don't just i don't the way i look at it is if i'm out there trying to kill an animal

00:21:05.000 and in turn it kills me fair game that was just the way it goes so i mean you'll see on my instagram

00:21:14.160 there's there's situations where um like in the spring i bear hunt i'm gonna go up to alberta and

00:21:20.560 if it's not the animal i want to kill i mean i just don't want to kill for no reason so

00:21:25.020 there last spring there was a a sow and she had some cubs and she was coming in and so i'm i just

00:21:32.080 stand up and i have a knife and i'm just like i'm like no telling her no i don't because my buddy

00:21:38.940 was sitting there john rivet who i bear hunt with a lot and he did have a gun and yeah we could have

00:21:44.460 killed the bear and it got she got very close but i was just like no stop like this and and she was

00:21:50.520 just like looking like a like a dog would look and you can kind of look at animals because they're

00:21:55.100 all body language they can't talk so they're body language and they're reading your body language

00:21:58.820 and if they think they're dominant over you they're coming so if i'm you told the bear no

00:22:04.440 yeah and listen yeah it's on it's on instagram but and and she's just like standing looking

00:22:09.580 taking should have tried to sit and roll over yeah sit want a treat spit not not quite that

00:22:15.320 that good but uh point is um maybe some people would have killed that bear because it got so

00:22:21.780 close and you're like you don't know what they're gonna do because you know feet away but we just

00:22:26.700 don't especially me i don't want to kill for no reason i want to kill the right animal i want to 0.94

00:22:31.640 do it the right way and i don't want to i i figured if i would have killed that sow uh for being too 0.94

00:22:37.180 close then her cubs would have died too sow that's a female bear got it female bear um

00:22:42.800 no i had i had something i lost my train of thought um oh yeah because we had um i think

00:22:50.720 it was here in california some guy was running i'm sure you saw this and a mountain lion attacked

00:22:56.740 him yeah yeah and he like grappled with the mountain lion and like put it in an arm bar

00:23:01.440 and then choked yeah yeah it was a baby we found out after it yeah that was yeah it was whatever

00:23:06.980 but it's uh yeah that did happen i saw that with with california california is tough on lions you

00:23:12.240 know they've you haven't been able to hunt lions in california for 50 years there's a bunch of

00:23:17.920 lions out there and people think well we don't see them because we're you know we don't see them

00:23:22.440 at starbucks are they extinct no there's a ton of them out there killing deer and elk and they're

00:23:27.120 they're killed i mean a lion will kill i don't know at least one animal a week to survive because

00:23:33.400 they like the fresh stuff bear will eat rotten stuff really lions like fresh kills so lions are

00:23:39.340 out there and they can devastate the deer herd that's why it's it's and then they're very

00:23:44.940 territorial so the more lions they get the more they get pushed into town and then that's where

00:23:50.120 you get those conflicts because they don't they don't go over as i said territory so they don't

00:23:54.780 overlap like a dominant male another one won't go in his territory so he has to keep going to where

00:24:00.200 there's no lions well eventually that gets to town so it's california it's they've outlawed

00:24:06.900 legal hunting but they still are hiring government government workers to kill these lions so there's

00:24:12.600 still lions being killed there's just no money going to fish and game because they're hiring

00:24:17.280 hit men to do it basically huh who pro who i'm sure don't eat can you would you eat lion meat

00:24:22.860 yeah yeah yeah they're they're not probably i mean is any of the is any of the hunting you do

00:24:28.060 ever for like do you feel like hunting is a solution to some of this overpopulation a better

00:24:33.380 solution oh that was um yeah one of the big things my dad uh would argue when we were younger about

00:24:39.680 deer in Ohio were being overpopulated. And, uh, yeah, there's a crazy number of car crashes that

00:24:46.520 happened because of deer. People are dying. Literally taking their lives because a deer

00:24:50.300 would run out in traffic. Yeah. And so that's what people fail to realize. They'll say, well,

00:24:55.940 nature will, we'll take care of it. You know, I mean, nature will balance it out. No man has

00:25:00.280 always hunted. It's only now that people are saying, well, you don't need to hunt. It's like,

00:25:04.440 no man's always been part of the equation so without man out that men out there or women out 0.57

00:25:10.080 there but man and just as a species killing animals it's going to get screwed up it doesn't

00:25:15.720 work i think there's just there's a really fine line between a proper hunter like you someone

00:25:22.220 who's doing it right and um ethical standards of hunting and then you get into like the slaughtering

00:25:30.160 of in a different way hunting sharks in the ocean people were poaching rhinos in africa yeah no

00:25:36.220 that's that's not hunting well i think people people love them together synonymize them yeah

00:25:41.300 yeah synonymize i'm i'm i'm with it i like it i mean fact check it synonymize it was actually my

00:25:46.180 next question too where do you draw the line in terms of what is huntable to you and what is off

00:25:50.820 limits you know like i i want it like you would never be in africa hunting elephant or synonymize

00:25:56.160 i i wouldn't i'm good to go um basically it's it's not for me to decide what's ethical it's for

00:26:03.440 the the fishing game in that area the departments the professionals with boots on the ground to say

00:26:09.660 hey this this is how many animals we have this is the carrying capacity of the land this is how

00:26:15.240 many we need to kill out of there every year and so they determine that not me that that said uh

00:26:20.640 i think they have determined in a lot of cases that there's hunting going on of animals that

00:26:25.900 are in completely insufficient quantities like your animals that are being that could potentially

00:26:32.500 go extinct if they continue to be hunted in africa and other countries yeah it's it's hard to sit

00:26:37.780 here and and really figure it out because there's some areas that people say elephants you know

00:26:43.580 elephants are going to be extinct and whatever well and in some areas there's too many elephants

00:26:47.820 so you can't just say elephants just just all elephants yeah there's there's certain it's just

00:26:53.780 like would you kill grizzly bears in california no there aren't there aren't any but does that

00:26:59.220 mean you shouldn't hunt them in alaska right you know what i mean is there would you say at least

00:27:03.180 could we agree that there has to be some animal out there that is low quantity that's still being

00:27:08.620 hunted like um i mean because animals because animals continue to go extinct i mean there's

00:27:14.860 there's it could be they could be yeah elephant numbers have dropped by 60 62 percent over the

00:27:19.700 last decade and they could be mostly extinct by the end of the next decade an estimated 100 african

00:27:24.680 elephants are killed each day by poachers seeking ivory meat and body parts leaving only 400 000

00:27:29.540 remaining right so let me just explain that to you so the poachers are killing 100 a day

00:27:34.940 a legal hunter will go there and they'll pay a hundred thousand dollars to kill an elephant

00:27:40.760 right and it's it's usually a rich white guy so we get beat up for that but it's it's it's those

00:27:47.620 guys going over there paying a hundred thousand dollars well that money goes to protecting the

00:27:52.720 rest of the herd so you're going to take one old bull out that's past this breeding prime and

00:27:57.240 sometimes these old bulls are actually killing other inferior animals because all they care

00:28:02.640 about is they're dominant so rhinos will kill other rhinos elephants will kill other elephants

00:28:08.240 and they're not really worried about balance things out if a hunter goes over there kills

00:28:12.420 this old bull that might actually be a detriment to the population because they're not breeding

00:28:17.020 and they're killing um that money will go to help anti-poaching efforts so these big concessions in

00:28:24.180 africa though they're the anti-poaching efforts are paid for by legal hunting there's one in

00:28:29.840 particular that was a huge concession in tanzania well because of the import ban um

00:28:36.020 president obama had on bringing animals back yeah that trump rolled back right from from from africa

00:28:43.420 um guys couldn't go there and hunt if they can't hunt bring their trophies back they're not going

00:28:47.540 to do it so that big concession went out of business when that went out of business there

00:28:52.520 was no money to pay for anti-poaching because there's no legal hunting and so the poachers

00:28:56.440 came in instead of killing one one bull one target bull legally and protecting the rest of them

00:29:02.460 the they were gone poachers came in just wiped everything out i guess i guess my my qualm with

00:29:08.520 that is it seems nearsighted to say that the only solution to protecting the greater herd is through

00:29:16.060 the the murder the hunting of others and i guess it's always struck me as as this this uh strange

00:29:25.480 way for old rich white dudes to get their nut off to go and hunt large animals that have symbolic

00:29:32.600 meaning to so many people across the world and like and and i'm i'm not gonna go crazy i'm he

00:29:39.160 would spencer would have and i want to just channel some of his thoughts and i'm not gonna 0.93

00:29:42.740 come out and make believe i'm some sort of pussy who's who's crying over it yeah yeah but at the 0.71

00:29:46.780 same time i mean these animals are majestic beautiful creatures and i guess my question is 0.98

00:29:53.220 like is there some other way that like it could be done as opposed to like like these these my

00:30:00.080 guess is these are the same dudes that are going to whorehouses like these dudes are just looking 0.99

00:30:04.220 for fucking quick thrills to get their nut off because they got so much fucking dough they're 0.99

00:30:07.800 tired of their old wife and they want to just go find some cheap way to get a nut yeah and so they 0.99

00:30:12.620 go and they shoot these beautiful creatures and so like i guess like is there some other way that

00:30:17.440 money could be raised like like could the groups that are anti these groups raise enough money 0.95

00:30:23.440 to to to you know to counteract the money loss i don't i don't fucking know they could

00:30:29.880 but that's a good point oh no it was good no it's good and a lot of people do lump those same type

00:30:35.560 of hunters together i mean i'm a hunter i have a hundred elephant but i've been over there i've

00:30:39.940 hunted lion i didn't kill one because i didn't find an old lion so and i'm a bow hunter i had

00:30:45.260 i had one at 68 yards it didn't offer me a good shot so i didn't kill one but i wouldn't put

00:30:51.640 myself into that description that you had so it's not just like i said i mean one group you can't

00:30:58.280 lump everybody together but i get what you're saying because a lot of people who don't hunt

00:31:01.860 would say yeah those are those are the guys those are the bad guys right um and there is another way

00:31:08.580 there probably is another way that people won't put their money where their mouth is fact that's

00:31:12.980 all that's all there is to it hunters will so at least hunters they're giving that money and i gave

00:31:18.820 that money i didn't kill anything right so people will go over there and say well you can do photo

00:31:23.380 safaris you can't do i mean yeah you're not going to get that money you're not going to have enough

00:31:28.620 money to pay for the anti-potion efforts that it requires and and what people um don't understand

00:31:35.140 is that those photo safaris they go the pretty much exact same path every day and to get the

00:31:41.800 animals by the road and i talked about nature's metal videos they're videoing from trucks so to

00:31:47.080 get those animals the lions by the road they're killing animals to bait them so animals are still

00:31:52.480 dying question for you that logan's got a picture here i think he wants to pull up of a rather large 0.99

00:31:57.480 donald trump sitting this is the shit that social media erupts about and this one is especially bad 0.99

00:32:03.740 yeah yeah because like let's be honest this man is not a fucking predator yeah he's not he probably 1.00

00:32:08.660 had to get wheeled in on some sort of device to even line that shot up yeah that doesn't that 0.92

00:32:13.460 doesn't look good i mean i mean it doesn't look good at all for the optics as as hunters um i

00:32:18.940 guess and maybe that's even a question i have too like is there a way to just not take the 0.88

00:32:22.460 fucking picture like bring like bring the thing home eat the meat do whatever i guess 0.95

00:32:26.240 another question i have is i we we go we go out on like conspiracy tips here sometimes and and 0.99

00:32:34.180 this isn't a conspiracy but like say you know you've seen i don't know if you've seen the movie

00:32:38.000 the purge but say in 10 years or 15 years people said you know the homeless population has gotten

00:32:43.980 so bad in los angeles it's it's caused a major problem uh so we're actually gonna allow rich

00:32:50.500 white men to pay 250 000 to go hunt homeless people to clean it up and that money will then

00:32:56.580 be used to house the rest of the homeless population yeah right like yeah i i'm just 0.98

00:33:05.200 saying like is there a line like these things are beautiful fucking and look at that thing dude it's 0.93

00:33:10.300 just i don't know i agree they're not human though you know they're not human so we got and i 0.98

00:33:15.660 understand it's a line to cross and we had that whole conversation uh with the vegan yeah we had

00:33:20.380 a vegan on who said that squirrels live squirrels live should be valued as much as humans and we got

00:33:24.900 into it there no no no i mean yeah i mean the the whole the trophy shot with the animal it's really

00:33:30.820 hard for somebody who doesn't hunt to get it you're sitting there you got a big grin you got

00:33:35.920 dead animal there if you if you haven't hunted and you don't know you don't know yeah i mean

00:33:41.020 that's a tough one because because but even like even like the ones that aren't as easy to attack

00:33:47.940 there's there's like this one this is the one i was looking for like this pretty girl this pretty

00:33:51.640 little girl yeah she's like with the oh god dang it technological difficulties she's been in the 0.68

00:33:57.000 news a lot yeah like like she gets eaten alive on social media and honestly like probably rightfully

00:34:03.300 so her her arrows are like pink and she's like i don't yeah nothing about this seems right what 1.00

00:34:10.540 what they like to do what social media likes to do is they go after the girls girls especially 1.00

00:34:15.860 that's really hard for people to stomach the the pretty girl with the beautiful dead animal that 0.93

00:34:21.000 one and and then the overweight white guy because people just like you the rich those are the those

00:34:27.580 are the bad guys this one and then the rich white guy those are the two that are like like nobody can

00:34:33.920 even hardly have an argument against you know what i mean so it's real it's it's real it's low

00:34:38.960 hanging fruit basically is it is there any i'm sure you're in the community yeah yeah is there

00:34:46.120 any sort of right there you do know her yeah okay so is there any deterrent does she see the hate on

00:34:52.260 social media and say I'm not gonna hunt anymore or at least I will no longer take pictures with my

00:34:57.940 my trophy and post it on social media yeah you know it's uh I don't know um Kendall I don't know

00:35:04.240 I mean I know her but I don't know what her stance is on it now but it has changed because it used to

00:35:09.300 be where we would as like a small group of hunters everybody understood so you'd you'd show hey I

00:35:16.000 killed this buck you know so I was hey you get your buck this year and like yeah got it here you

00:35:19.880 go now we say hey i got my buck and it's on social media and it's it's out there for everyone

00:35:25.800 it's for the the vegan your vegan buddy it's for you know people like i get death threats all the

00:35:32.200 time sure so it's like yeah you have we just have to be better about it we have to be um so i talk

00:35:39.360 about the reverence i have for the animals i don't show as many like as i would just show my buddy

00:35:45.100 like, Hey, kill this big bull. I don't show those big smile. I mean, you, you, we just have to get

00:35:50.520 better because if we want to protect what we have and, and also there is a lot of benefits to hunting

00:35:56.180 the North American wildlife model is why there's more big game animals in the United States than

00:36:01.040 there was a hundred years ago. That's because of hunting. And that's because of money that,

00:36:04.980 that hunting, um, drives to conservation. So it's there, we're trying to do the same thing

00:36:11.280 or Africa is trying to do the same thing. We don't run it over there, but it's that same model. So

00:36:15.020 if we want that to continue to work and the animals continue to thrive we got to do a little

00:36:19.580 better job at our at our marketing as hunters that's a great that's a great point it's about

00:36:24.680 just especially in the air of just social media and like i just i don't think social media is for

00:36:28.960 hunters i don't think so either that's not like unfortunately unless there's like maybe a way for

00:36:33.800 them to be in like a closed group like some large crows closed private group of course the pick

00:36:37.940 somebody will still infiltrate it the pictures must still get out yeah yeah i mean it's we just

00:36:42.220 you know if we're gonna put them out there you either got to be ready for the backlash or you

00:36:46.400 got to have a good argument on or you know to be able to sit and the problem with social media is

00:36:51.220 you don't have these long form discussions like this you know you don't you can't really explain

00:36:54.960 because people don't people don't want to hear your side no no no they'll say they don't give 0.97

00:36:58.820 a shit what you think no they'll say they want to see my daughter's head on the wall like like 0.98

00:37:03.080 the animal but don't listen to any your your yeah no no you've gotten comments like that oh yeah 1.00

00:37:09.080 no people just like you know a squirrel is just like that's what people say it's like oh you 0.55

00:37:14.080 killed this well you we should kill your daughter then it's like okay how do you internalize that

00:37:20.860 that's that's it that's rough you know how you know how social media is there people just talk 1.00

00:37:25.900 shit they get crazy they they think there's no repercussions and this one kid actually 0.95

00:37:29.680 said this crazy stuff and he he worked up at a municipal airport up in canada and i posted what 0.99

00:37:36.920 he what he said to me yeah and the mayor of the town the the the people who ran the airport he

00:37:44.020 had to answer for that oh yeah i mean so that's great and rightfully so i agree just don't i mean

00:37:50.180 think about what you say i mean because he was threatening me and then i'm worried about the

00:37:54.860 people who are i'm around you know i go to work is somebody gonna come and do something crazy

00:37:59.240 and and hurt people who don't deserve it just because i'm around them i mean it's just not

00:38:03.540 Right. Listen, I agree with you 100 percent. I think I think there's it's it's childish, the rhetoric on both sides of the fence.

00:38:11.700 And I want to I want to hit this quickly, at least. I've seen your support for Trump, obviously.

00:38:18.460 And I've already started to kind of realize that you're quite a level of the guy.

00:38:24.000 and so i i'm just curious um he had a lot of criticism of mccain over the past couple days

00:38:32.040 that i found uh nothing really shocks me with him anymore yeah and by the way like i i hopefully at

00:38:38.080 some point he'll be judged a little bit more on what he's done for the country versus what he said

00:38:42.660 because he'll never come back from what he said it's a it's a pr and just absolute disaster for

00:38:47.440 the office in my eyes but just but just question for you like do you are there things he says

00:38:53.320 i'm sure you get pissed off by some of the things he says yeah there was especially start right out

00:38:58.060 the gate i was just like can i mean can we just think about what we're tweeting yeah and i didn't

00:39:05.360 hear what he said lately about mccain but just in general anybody who's been a prisoner of war 0.68

00:39:10.120 i'm not going to talk shit about them ever ever i'm gonna so i mean my my son is in the army

00:39:15.380 so it's like the people who serve have so much of my respect especially somebody who served his 0.95

00:39:20.940 country and then also served his country in the political spectrum his whole life right it's just

00:39:25.680 like if if you're going to give a guy a pass or just just for whatever reason just decide you 0.72

00:39:31.060 know what maybe i'm just going to knock out talk shit about somebody how about how about that guy 0.60

00:39:34.780 and that would be the one so so i don't i don't get that i don't so he said uh a couple days ago 0.77

00:39:40.380 that he was responsible for uh giving the green light to mccain's funeral he and that he was never

00:39:46.400 thanked for it and and that and that he doesn't like the guy he never liked like and so it's like

00:39:53.100 it's a no win it really is like you're now saying that you never received a thank you from a dead

00:39:59.660 man or his family yeah who was a who was a prisoner of war and served the country for his entire life

00:40:07.760 yeah and so the and so the level-headed trump supporters that i sit with which by the way

00:40:13.960 there are some there's quite a few of them right out there he got elected he got elected uh

00:40:19.780 not by all level-headed trump supporters i will say that let me preface that we're talking about

00:40:25.380 big groups again for sure for sure but but there are a lot of people that i speak with that you

00:40:29.480 know whether they be business associates whatever that all have that same kind of thought take the 0.84

00:40:34.040 fucking dude's twitter away please or like give him a script or something because a lot of his 0.85

00:40:39.120 policies to you know to to the classically or to the currently understood points some of the 0.96

00:40:44.160 policies at least are benefiting the country yeah yeah the country's in a good spot right now not so

00:40:48.640 much uh i mean there's you know there's challenges with different groups of people that maybe more

00:40:55.060 they're more intensified now than they have been in a while but as far as the country's health it

00:41:00.420 seems like it's you know money wise fiscally just yeah i mean and and where we are i think

00:41:07.000 you can argue this all day but our standing amongst the other countries in the world you

00:41:11.920 know where where we're the feeling was obama was pretty passive and people thought we maybe were

00:41:18.940 a weaker country so i feel like that's changed a little bit i don't the whole twitter stuff and

00:41:25.060 and having um maybe an ego deal and maybe you didn't get invited to the funeral so you're still

00:41:31.300 harboring some ill will about that and still i mean he's the man's dead it's like even the people

00:41:37.660 like who who i've supported him you can't even how can you support that how can anybody support it

00:41:44.240 so it's just like it's a no win and they say and there's a lot of people that still try to which

00:41:48.260 is which is that and i think i'm on both sides like that's the time when i have difficulty

00:41:52.420 because you and i can sit down with slightly opposing viewpoints by the way like i'm not

00:41:56.860 on either side like crazy but we can have a conversation about yeah i'm not going to call 0.96

00:42:01.340 you fucking names yeah i'm not gonna i'm not gonna say you're wrong i'm right we just we're 0.98

00:42:05.400 just talking about yeah and i think that that responsible uh political discourse is so absent 1.00

00:42:11.260 in the country right now like it is it's just such bullshit if you can talk if you can talk you can

00:42:15.960 get through a lot but people are just so divided and so on the far far ends of the spectrum that 1.00

00:42:21.800 they won't even talk you know you're a racist trump supporter or you're uh you know uh pussy 0.99

00:42:27.720 liberal yeah so it's just like guys no it's the truth lies in between we had a for sure caitlin 0.99

00:42:33.900 bennett gun girl on here yep you know that is i think so yeah the kent state gun girl do you i

00:42:38.980 know you're a bow hunter but do you have an opinion on the whole gun situation here in america

00:42:46.200 um like because you don't hunt with no but i have guns i have guns i have i have pistols at the house

00:42:53.040 and for protection purposes for yeah that's it no any rifles yeah my my sons they grew up rifle

00:43:00.360 hunting so i bow hunting is very hard so to get them yeah kind of kind of how you did too um out

00:43:06.620 west rifle hunting is where most people start yeah and and so we we've had you know deer hunting

00:43:12.440 rifles at the house and still do and then also pistols you know are any of them semi-automatic

00:43:17.320 no none none are even semi-automatic at all no oh wow so that's i mean most hunting rifles

00:43:25.680 are single shot yeah yeah um do you have an opinion on the uh the ar-10

00:43:33.920 semi-automatic rifle debate extended magazine yeah because new zealand just um they had that

00:43:41.060 that that christ church shooting in three days semi-automatic rifles were banned yeah yeah it's

00:43:47.340 not you know i mean it's the i i go back to it's the person if the if the person really wants to

00:43:52.900 cause destruction they'll figure out a way to do it it's it's not so much the gun i mean it's

00:43:57.280 it's you'll figure it out i mean there's been uh what you can drive a a truck into a crowd of

00:44:04.480 people yeah which you know what i mean is is and so it's like it's the whole thing it's just like

00:44:10.060 you can't if somebody's overweight you don't take the spoon away and say that it's a spoon's fault

00:44:14.560 you know that said i guess i guess like uh my only contest for that and i well i agree with

00:44:20.540 you a lot and i think that people need to start being better to each other yeah and finding out

00:44:25.000 what's going on with the mental health problems and all that stuff is the core stuff yeah you'll

00:44:29.180 notice that on a lot of busy streets in new york city and la you see um uh concrete structures so

00:44:35.360 that a car can't drive on the sidewalk or like metal detectors so you can't bring a handgun into

00:44:40.380 court like i think the argument of like yo it's all about the person so let's not change the uh

00:44:45.760 capacity of the magazine or ability to rapid like to shoot rapidly through some automatic

00:44:50.060 whatever it is right right yeah it's kind of lazy because like wouldn't you take at least some step 0.96

00:44:55.280 to limit the damage you know what i'm saying like imagine if that dude up in in fucking vegas right 0.99

00:45:00.120 who was a psychopath 1.00

00:45:00.900 and wanted to kill everyone on earth 1.00

00:45:02.140 had a single shot 1.00

00:45:03.720 or even a semi-automatic handgun

00:45:06.380 like say we did semi-automatic handguns

00:45:08.220 but single shot rifles

00:45:09.200 like do you really think

00:45:10.780 he would have mowed down 1.00

00:45:11.640 as many fucking people 1.00

00:45:12.540 like loading one round at a time 1.00

00:45:14.720 yeah no I get what you're saying

00:45:16.100 do you have a concealed carry permit

00:45:18.920 I don't

00:45:20.000 no 1.00

00:45:21.180 my wife does 1.00

00:45:22.900 oh shit your wife does 1.00

00:45:24.240 I think it's interesting 1.00

00:45:26.400 because

00:45:26.660 which I support by the way

00:45:29.260 I think people should be able to protect themselves.

00:45:30.980 Yeah. I mean, if you're going to have a gun, know how to use it.

00:45:33.960 That's the biggest thing. And so you get your concealed carry license.

00:45:37.880 You're, you're learning the ins and outs of the gun, how to handle it safely,

00:45:41.280 you know, aside from taking on the responsibility of your own.

00:45:45.720 And some people have guns and they don't really even know how they work,

00:45:49.440 you know? And so that's, that's not a good answer either.

00:45:52.340 yeah i find um solace sort of in people who have concealed carry permits um knowing that say i'm in

00:46:05.380 uh a new place or whatever just exploring at the mall or whatever yeah again god forbid right

00:46:11.380 there's some sort of mass shooting incident um i feel some solace in knowing there may be a hunter

00:46:19.800 in the room or someone who has some experience with firearms to combat the bad guy yeah i mean

00:46:25.280 it's interesting because you don't you don't hunt with rifles no can you imagine you were getting 0.99

00:46:29.680 targeted at the mall by some guy with like a ar-15 and he comes out with a fucking compound 0.98

00:46:34.360 bow and just goes through his fucking head be a legend that'd be a legend that'd be tough but 0.99

00:46:39.420 yeah i mean i i get what you're saying it's like and you know there's that old adage that 0.99

00:46:44.080 a bad guy with a gun is only stopped by a good guy with a gun and in some cases that's true

00:46:49.740 I mean, and that, that does happen. And, uh, it's just, it's just sucks that we have to worry about

00:46:54.960 it. You know, that, that people are that evil. That's the big, that's the bigger problem. Yeah. 0.97

00:46:59.520 That I just, and you know, we talk about the mental health thing and I get, and I don't know

00:47:04.680 if you do too. I mean, your social media is huge, but, um, there are people out there that are

00:47:09.660 struggling and they don't know how to get help. They don't know where to get help. They ask me,

00:47:14.580 you know, they're contemplating suicide or there's things they're going through. And I don't know,

00:47:19.120 I'm a bow hunter. So I've had to go and do research and say, if somebody is reaching out

00:47:24.120 to me for help, what can I tell them that's going to help? Just because I was getting so many of

00:47:28.420 them. So that's, that's, that's, uh, I mean, it's indicate, um, indicative of what's going on out

00:47:34.920 there before struggling. Have you been able, like I can relate completely and his is, he's not even

00:47:40.520 able to like open up DMs because they refresh every second. Like it's a whole nother world.

00:47:45.060 But for me, I do read my messages and there's a lot of people in there struggling with mental health or addiction or whatever it is.

00:47:51.520 And it's almost like I could I when I was not on the show and before like any kind of social media, when people would reach out directly, friends of mine say I'm having a hard time, I put my all into it.

00:48:02.420 Yeah. But can you imagine trying to have that one on one conversation with 50 people that we wouldn't have the show?

00:48:07.620 Nothing would happen. And so I know I'm I'm very nervous and scared for the future.

00:48:13.580 uh gen z specifically uh they did this study and kids are now basing their self-worth at a young

00:48:22.520 age like how much you value yourself yeah on likes and comments yeah i know i've seen that

00:48:28.380 can you imagine being a third grader fifth grader and you value how much you love yourself

00:48:36.120 based on what other people think of you yeah could be one of the most dangerous things i

00:48:42.360 think that's happening i think so too country i think it's or in the world it's sad but it's like

00:48:47.040 and so that's just you know there's always challenges there's there's things that come

00:48:50.880 up with different generations right now that's a big one um and so i i think you know i i put up

00:48:58.280 occasionally if people are contemplating suicide here's the suicide helpline as like a blanket

00:49:03.340 story yeah i love that and so i mean i think you know as as you're a leader you know you're a

00:49:12.360 maybe do that too at times so i mean we had the whole thing with japan and we tried to uh not

00:49:17.420 tried to we succeeded in creating this is a controversial that i mean that's that's one of

00:49:21.920 them yeah but but i mean i i feel we did a a great job at combating it the best we could by creating

00:49:30.340 the suicide psa that we made that yeah i met one of my great friends to this day kevin hines where

00:49:37.220 um again i text this dude every single day he's and he's out there spreading his message about um

00:49:43.380 anti-suicide and uh he's making the change like he's literally making the change we profiled him

00:49:50.040 and we we kick-started what he is is going to do and and and create serious change about kids

00:49:55.980 believing in themselves but um that's how old are you 23 yeah i mean it's i mean it's pressure for

00:50:02.760 you too to have that type of responsibility i think responsibility it's just because i'm thinking

00:50:07.540 when i was 23 i couldn't i couldn't sit here and do this i mean so you you have my respect yeah

00:50:13.380 people make mistakes and people judge others on these mistakes and i i didn't see what caused the

00:50:18.780 big controversy the first time but i saw your apology to it and i thought to myself i'm like

00:50:24.080 you know i don't people look at you and envy you and envy what you have but it it's not always

00:50:32.200 sunshine and rainbows you know what i mean and so i you're right you have my respect thank you

00:50:37.260 with uh just being insightful and trying to do the best you can do i know it's not easy

00:50:41.720 the biggest thing that we can do and i come back to this time and time again is just keep creating

00:50:46.860 amazing uh content with amazing energy and provide a smile on people's face if i can if i can do that

00:50:53.860 i've won right i've won um if i can distract people from their day just slightly that so is

00:51:00.700 So that's, that's the goal. That's the goal. That's always been, that's one of the goals.

00:51:05.120 Yeah. And now it's starting to evolve to, to actual impact, which, which I think people were,

00:51:09.880 we haven't talked about it at all yet, but I think people will start to see over the next

00:51:12.740 three to six months where we're, where we're finding these, these either individuals or

00:51:17.840 groups that need awareness and assistance. And I think we're going to start moving into that arena

00:51:21.580 more, but he did a great job with the suicide awareness PSA. And to his point, there's probably

00:51:28.300 small blankets we could put out that that could just kind of address a lot of those messages

00:51:32.240 because there's so many people struggling out there yeah i'm kind of i'm kind of just talking

00:51:36.340 out loud just to say it uh but i think one of the big one of the mistakes i made with the suicide be

00:51:43.720 here tomorrow video was that i tried to act a little bit more uh like an expert than i should

00:51:50.520 have right i sort of took the reins on i don't know if you saw but i i sort of took the reins on

00:51:55.360 um an issue that i was still very much ignorant to yeah i hate that word ignorant i think i think

00:52:01.720 it's just more just like undereducated it's yeah well it's they're synonymous but you're right 0.94

00:52:06.060 it just has the wrong connotation yeah because society's made ignorant like yeah ignorant doesn't 0.85

00:52:13.520 always have to be a bad thing or on purpose like like i am let's see i'm ignorant to um astrophysics 0.98

00:52:20.960 yeah it doesn't mean i'm fucking stupid i just have not studied space physics i can kind of 0.67

00:52:25.800 relate to what you're saying uh because i've been involved in politics not kind of by proxy a little 0.70

00:52:32.160 bit and then i i got selected for this uh um this international wildlife conservation council so i'm

00:52:38.700 back there with these politicians that's not my world i'm i'm back there trying to make a difference 1.00

00:52:43.540 trying to do what i can't and people are going you're a fucking idiot you fell for that and i'm 1.00

00:52:48.340 like i did i fell for what i didn't even know what i fell for so but the point was was i'm trying i'm 1.00

00:52:55.220 trying to do something positive i have a voice i'm trying to use my voice not just for running

00:53:00.500 and working out and bow hunting but like hey maybe this can have a longer lasting effect on

00:53:04.760 on decisions we make it and so i'm trying some people see that as i'm failing because i don't

00:53:10.660 know the ins and outs of politics that that's kind of where you you were trying to do something good

00:53:16.340 it was a perfect do you know everything about it no but you're you're trying to move the needle in

00:53:21.960 the right direction exactly exactly that's all you can do man and that's and i'm and i'm glad

00:53:26.180 to hear that you're doing that i think a lot of the change that people are looking forward to

00:53:30.020 happen in your world starts via legislation um let's do something fun huh i was just thinking

00:53:36.900 that i wanted to also ask him about his workout dude how old are you now if you don't mind saying

00:53:42.140 51 well i used to say that i'm 10 years younger than i was just because it sounded better yeah

00:53:47.580 but then but then 41 is still old so i'm like you got too old to be old maybe i need to take 20 off

00:53:53.900 you're preaching i'll say 31 you're preaching to the choir i'm 34 and in youtube years that's like 0.94

00:53:58.280 wheel me around in a fucking wheelchair it's crazy i was listening to one of the podcasts the other 0.91

00:54:02.680 day and i didn't know who was who because i'm kind of getting up to speed on it and i'm like 0.99

00:54:07.000 i thought you were saying you were 34 i was like oh shit he's not a kid you probably thought that 0.94

00:54:13.380 because i was fucking taking over the podcast which i sometimes do and you're talking about 0.97

00:54:18.580 i think spring break and whether you're too old to go oh to arizona state yeah that was specifically 0.96

00:54:25.060 an uh age-based conversation where mike fell in the we didn't we didn't go by the way oh we didn't

00:54:31.500 it sounded like you had the pass to go though we always listen i i get the pass to go to 0.78

00:54:36.500 all those kind of parties and i still do i go and i hang out with fucking 21 kids and they all 0.98

00:54:40.420 they fuck with me you know so it's like i don't it's not a problem but it's like yo the problem 0.99

00:54:44.160 is me trying to keep up here's why here's no you lead the pack here's why here's why it works 0.99

00:54:49.500 mike's got the wisdom and experience of like a 45 year old yeah but he's got the demeanor and

00:54:57.820 attention span of a 12 year old so true so true and i love it because i'm like i'm like kind of

00:55:03.900 similar but with less of a gap yeah yeah um your workout your workout you're crazy in shape you

00:55:11.400 run through the mountains you're doing frozen trail runs don't you run like 90 miles a day

00:55:15.820 yeah yeah something like that that's crazy yeah um i just like feeling like i've done something

00:55:22.440 every day put in work every day and running gives me that feeling so i i hate you know everybody has

00:55:29.000 these goals and wants to be the best version of themselves some days how how do you quantify that

00:55:35.040 i just know when i run i'm like well i did something you know i feel good about that so

00:55:39.840 that's my go-to basically i i love i love what you just said i've always said if there's like

00:55:44.940 a day where i'm feeling lazy or whatever if i don't do anything except work out it was a good 0.88

00:55:49.360 day check mark exactly i don't need to go to bed feeling like a lazy piece of shit and i hate and 0.99

00:55:53.460 and luckily you've been doing actual shit every day because you have not been fucking working 0.99

00:55:57.940 it's well because i've been sick guy i've been sick guy i'm on that excuse for like the past 0.99

00:56:01.940 like six months i got influenza i got diagnosed with influenza i got the flu so hey so tell me

00:56:07.160 about this fighting thing so yeah what so what's your goal what's your because i i didn't you what

00:56:14.160 were trying to do a pay-per-view with was it conor mcgregor did i see that so there was a there

00:56:19.800 was a point okay where i was like yeah i'd fight mcgregor and like by the way i would fight mcgregor

00:56:25.160 i'd also probably die no problem no problem but uh yeah this youtuber called me out in a fight

00:56:30.860 his name is ksi uh we fought boxing match uh it was a draw i'm a much better boxer than him

00:56:36.800 he was in much better shape than me endurance endurance yeah yeah so and and then hey mcgregor

00:56:42.240 gets gassed out too that last fight bad well no even against diaz you see when he's yeah when he's

00:56:49.240 he like on the second fight he knew what happened the first fight because he got gassed out and just

00:56:53.920 like god choke me get me out of here and then on the second fight he wouldn't engage he'd be like

00:56:59.460 no i'm gonna take a little break because i know he knows his body he uh in interviews he now admits

00:57:05.960 that he's got this uh hump we're at like the maybe 60 of the way through he'll he'll in his

00:57:13.640 mind he's at the bottom of a mountain and he knows the mountain ahead and he has trouble uh

00:57:18.460 getting over it but uh yeah man i've i've i wrestled my whole yeah i think your dad told me 0.91

00:57:24.560 yeah so to be honest man my goal i want a fucking ufc fight dana white where you at like i want one 0.92

00:57:30.640 UFC fight before I die yeah put me in the fucking octagon CM Punk got in there what's good that's 0.96

00:57:37.100 who he wants to fight oh really yeah I think that he won't one of the people he's not gonna do it 0.98

00:57:41.740 but the other the other problem now it's not a problem but the other situation we face is 0.99

00:57:46.180 why do we have to go to UFC you know what I'm saying like he just he just does shit himself 0.61

00:57:52.280 now because like literally Mayweather fight the fight the kid and whatever just yeah it was an 0.93

00:57:57.660 Exhibition match in Japan, I believe.

00:58:00.120 I mean, his channels rival the views that come from movies, from UFC.

00:58:05.200 Here's what.

00:58:05.960 Credibility.

00:58:06.280 Credibility.

00:58:06.880 Yeah, sure.

00:58:07.280 But, like, also what MMA fighter is.

00:58:10.220 Because we've got to find the perfect guy.

00:58:12.920 He can't be, like, a championship contender.

00:58:14.740 He'll kill me. 0.68

00:58:15.580 We've got to find a dude with the right amount of clout. 0.97

00:58:18.120 So it's, like, actually worth it for me to, like, risk my face and brain.

00:58:20.940 But somebody that's on the decline a little bit.

00:58:22.880 Yeah.

00:58:23.840 We've got to find some, like, sort of, like, maybe Ja Rule, bro.

00:58:26.860 Like, I feel like a job rule.

00:58:28.680 We had Woodley on recently.

00:58:32.760 Yeah, Tyron.

00:58:33.720 And we put quite a bit of money on that guy, dude.

00:58:37.440 He was quite sure.

00:58:38.800 Before the fight?

00:58:39.600 Yeah.

00:58:40.360 Before he lost.

00:58:40.780 And he was quite sure.

00:58:42.160 Not sure.

00:58:42.780 He was positive. 1.00

00:58:43.700 He said, listen, man, like, put your fucking house on it, dude. 1.00

00:58:45.940 Like, basically, like, I'm going to kill Calamari Jones or whatever you fucking call the dude. 1.00

00:58:50.040 And we went in there, man. 0.99

00:58:52.320 And I know.

00:58:53.260 We dropped 20K on Tyron.

00:58:54.920 But you know what?

00:58:55.780 The thing is, is you have to have that attitude as a fighter.

00:58:58.860 You have to believe you're the baddest man on the earth.

00:59:02.480 I should have known that every fighter says that. 1.00

00:59:06.420 He went into his fight with the same fucking attitude. 1.00

00:59:09.620 I should have known. 1.00

00:59:11.200 Also, I've seen him fight, dude.

00:59:13.220 And the tyrant I saw in the past was not the tyrant I saw against.

00:59:16.100 I don't know what happened.

00:59:17.020 I was at that fight.

00:59:18.460 We were too.

00:59:19.480 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:59:20.820 We were supposed to meet up or something. 0.99

00:59:22.100 Oh, shit, you were there in Vegas? 1.00

00:59:23.160 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:59:24.200 where were you guys sitting front row opposite end of where the fighters enter opposite side 0.67

00:59:31.820 oh that's kind of where i was well we missed an opportunity we suck so did you see rogan

00:59:37.180 i did yeah he was over to our left oh so i was sitting right there okay we were in the area of

00:59:42.560 the dude that got in the fight after colby with the make america great again hat he was like five

00:59:48.220 rose over from us getting in an argument with the ram the rams yes so girly was next to us we were

00:59:54.780 literally sitting with girl oh i was looking because there's one guy with girly that just

00:59:58.280 kept he wouldn't shut up he's like over and i'm like okay we got we get it you don't like him

01:00:02.740 yeah you've established that with a hundred flip-offs yeah anyway hey i want to i want to

01:00:08.420 touch on this quickly too you uh speaking of the running and you talk about it as something that

01:00:13.060 you accomplish daily that makes you feel good you talk about it similarly as something that

01:00:18.140 you're doing because you, if it makes you feel good to have gotten it done, can you talk a little

01:00:23.220 bit about how it makes you feel mentally? Because, because we, we talked a little bit about mental

01:00:28.540 illness and I, you know, I personally, and I think a lot of other people have dealt with anxiety or

01:00:33.200 whatever in their life. And when I exercise, there's nothing that does more for my mental

01:00:39.320 wellbeing or physical wellbeing, obviously than working out. Do you feel the same kind of mental

01:00:43.660 Yeah. Yeah. You know, it keeps me healthy, just, just healthy, just literally, but also mentally too. And it's just, I feel like, you know, the gift of life is it's amazing. It is amazing. I feel like I have actually have a greater appreciation for the gift of life because I hunt. So I'm out there. I know what's at stake. I know life can end. I mean, not just with people dying, but taking life of an animal. It's, it's, it grounds you.

01:01:09.580 So I, for my life, I feel like I need to exercise.

01:01:13.800 I need to honor what I have and to be, as I said, be the best version of myself.

01:01:19.520 Like last week, we went to the Grand Canyon.

01:01:22.260 We stood at the rim and it was amazing to me to be able to, we went from the South Rim to the North Rim back to the South on Saturday.

01:01:30.720 And that's 44 miles.

01:01:32.160 and it's uh just just to be able to do that i feel like is honoring um just this gift of life

01:01:39.740 yeah and so that's that's what it means to me and what and i can't expect everybody to do that

01:01:45.140 because people have different priorities and different things are important to them but for

01:01:49.260 me yeah it's it's the key it's the key yeah i saw that trail that you were uh you were running on

01:01:55.440 that was the grand canyon yeah how do you not roll your ankles there there were i'm i'm not kidding

01:01:59.680 there was crazy amount of rocks up and down hills and don't you do it with a girl yeah courtney um 0.99

01:02:05.520 yeah she's one of the best in the world she actually had the american record she a runner 0.56

01:02:09.140 yeah man she's a beast yeah she's she had the american are you guys dating no oh no just running

01:02:15.460 friends yeah we just run she's married i'm married it's all good but oh it's it's hard to uh it's hard

01:02:21.520 to find somebody who can do that you know what i mean yeah i do know what you mean man yeah i don't 0.95

01:02:25.760 know who's willing to do shit like this yeah right so that like this is crazy yeah so even 0.92

01:02:30.760 just to hike it let alone run it i would be snapping so many ankles you ever done all we 0.98

01:02:35.960 got is fucking runyon and that's hard enough yeah that that's a good run i like i love i like getting 0.86

01:02:41.440 up there to the do you so you run past like the observatory and then up to the i'm gonna be honest 0.98

01:02:46.620 with you man that's griffith oh griffith yeah that's griffith runyon uh is the one that's got

01:02:50.900 the really sweeping views of the city i mean they kind of both do but runyon also can get you behind

01:02:54.300 the hollywood sign which is pretty cool yeah well i've run from the observatory over to the sign

01:02:58.860 oh yeah i just i prefer to just like walk kind of slowly with like a cute girl with like spandex

01:03:04.520 you know i am the runs i know i know i i saw somebody yesterday i was running with my son

01:03:10.220 and there's a couple sitting by the on a on a park bench and looking at the river and i told

01:03:15.220 my son i'm like that looks awful that looks like the worst day ever they're thinking the same thing

01:03:21.640 about what you're doing every time i just want to get out there grind and some people want to

01:03:26.820 look at the river so maybe you're halfway in between i'm it's it depends where i'm at in my

01:03:31.240 life if i'm if i'm training and i'm eating healthy and my lifestyle is like on on point and i'm going

01:03:36.380 about 11 p.m bro if if i see someone getting like a hershey's bar at the gas station yeah

01:03:42.100 you ain't going anywhere with your life and then when i'm when i'm that guy ordering the hershey's

01:03:47.360 bar i'm like man this is so chill i don't have to work hard i don't have to do anything you see 0.99

01:03:51.120 somebody run by and you're like fuck those guys well you know i mean don't you think though with 0.97

01:03:56.680 your goal of uh you said you want to fight ufc or fight somebody don't you think that i mean that's 0.99

01:04:02.060 grind grinding i'm so i'm obsessed with it i get in these i get in the if i get uh sick like my

01:04:09.380 health pretty much dictates everything i do if i'm healthy i cannot be stopped i literally can't be

01:04:14.080 stopped until i get unhealthy as long as i'm not sick man you need 8 a.m to midnight and i just

01:04:19.520 have this thing where i always get sick ksi is gonna send you need a girl at you you that's got

01:04:24.700 that's got a cold right before the next fight and that's gonna be your weakness bro because he knows

01:04:29.440 you're weak for girls and spandex hiking and he knows you're gonna get sick bro it's quite the

01:04:35.080 opposite i'm i'm so strong when it comes to girls i did have a girl tell me once she said

01:04:40.240 this is kind of like she i actually wrote in my notes because it was really funny

01:04:44.200 this better be good it was it was actually last night so the note is right up at the top

01:04:51.400 said you're actually really weird and turning me off more than anyone in my life oh

01:04:56.140 well what kind of statement is that dude why would she say that by the way where do you go

01:05:04.440 from there so what are you just like no that's me or i need to make some changes no no i'm i'm

01:05:10.120 I'm good to go, man.

01:05:11.120 When I'm healthy, like, I'm cruising.

01:05:13.580 So, you are really weird because you're sick?

01:05:16.540 No, I'm just weird, dude. 0.95

01:05:18.420 I met this girl, dude.

01:05:20.000 He also is, I feel like he kind of has a good way of, like,

01:05:25.520 almost adjusting his personality to right fit the personality.

01:05:31.040 And not changing himself. 0.99

01:05:32.700 But this girl is fucking weird, bro. 1.00

01:05:35.100 Like, she's off. 0.99

01:05:35.760 he gets a lot he gets a lot of he gets like hollywood she's not i'll tell you why i'll tell

01:05:46.160 you why okay it's a trap it's a trap i if i'm intrigued yeah i'll stick around yeah i'm exterior

01:05:54.060 sort of fades away away from me and intrigue doesn't always mean the best thing like right

01:05:58.480 she's fucking weird yeah he wants to figure some little quirk i want to figure i want to

01:06:03.100 get inside her brain okay and by the way she's also he also she's very uh i'm glad you has a 1.00

01:06:10.440 brain sexually and like she's like a very like ferocious kind of sexual person and so i'm sure 0.99

01:06:16.340 she's a weird one we talk about some running right it's running it's gotta be bad for you 0.94

01:06:22.480 ever do the west west rim walk say it again the west rim walk on the grand canyon it's that glass

01:06:29.580 that goes over oh i haven't no i haven't but you know so the grand canyon you know like 12 people

01:06:35.460 die there every year how falling falling so you go like there's where we started that like the day

01:06:42.120 before i don't know where the first picture was like right there is this one no no the group the

01:06:46.440 four people down below that's where people take pictures people take pictures and fall off and

01:06:51.800 die it's so weird like why do you do because they do that at machu picchu too there's been a lot of

01:06:56.980 stories recently about the people going for the jumping selfie you ever see or a jumping yeah

01:07:01.440 yeah and they jump and the husband takes the picture and then the newlywed wife falls off 0.92

01:07:05.760 the side of the fucking cliff yeah that's natural selection i'm sorry yeah i know no disrespect but 0.98

01:07:12.380 if you fall off the side of a cliff trying to take a picture this is yo i went to the grand 0.99

01:07:16.500 canyon once and i pulled this shit that's you like that should have been me and if you had 0.99

01:07:20.420 gone over i'm sorry bro i love you but dude i would have been like yeah the sick picture 0.99

01:07:24.780 And his brother too 0.99

01:07:27.600 Greg hanging off the side of the fucking dam 0.99

01:07:29.560 Do you remember that? 1.00

01:07:30.760 You saw that video of him hanging over the dam

01:07:32.660 Like if one of them would have fallen

01:07:33.920 It would have been like the kid in the flat earth movie

01:07:36.200 That's just the end of my story

01:07:38.500 Well that's just the end of my life

01:07:40.620 Yeah my brother

01:07:42.040 I got hit with an ad

01:07:43.500 Use Groupon at all

01:07:46.240 Oh is that what this

01:07:48.800 Oh yeah no

01:07:49.620 This took the internet by storm

01:07:53.880 A little bit

01:07:54.620 actually actually you no this is my this is my bro oh oh check it oh this was way back when but 0.97

01:08:02.160 like come on like what yeah and that's it just for this little stupid shot j paul falls that's 0.51

01:08:10.180 it like what i know are you good guy and people do that all the time but but then also fall yeah 0.94

01:08:15.980 i mean it's just stopped so what happens is i don't i think people you know how and and i was

01:08:21.520 young too but you think you're invincible you think no i'm i'm good on what what's the worst 0.55

01:08:26.760 that could possibly possibly happen what's the worst that could happen yeah i mean you die i

01:08:31.040 guess falling from the edge of the dam and imploding upon impact you know another another

01:08:35.920 thing that happens at the grand canyon that people don't hear about a lot is i think it's also one of

01:08:39.680 the highest helicopter crash areas and i'm not talking about a ton of probably because the wind

01:08:45.300 right yeah from the canyon and so i've done the flight into the canyon and i didn't know at the

01:08:50.860 time but it's fucking terrifying dude they fly you right into the canyon it's how amazing is it

01:08:56.240 i've never been absolutely stunning uh it's just so just to be there and to be able to like i said 0.96

01:09:00.800 run it and be be in the in the bottom of it and come out on the other top it's just like man do

01:09:06.020 you see that that's living yeah that's life see the horseshoe there's like that with the river 0.75

01:09:10.420 where the river horseshoes through the i didn't see that that's fucking awesome yeah is running 0.79

01:09:14.920 bad for your knees i have bad knees yeah people ask that all the time they ask me like all sorts 0.90

01:09:20.700 crazy stuff like foot strike how does your are you heel striker or toe striker how do you how

01:09:26.400 do you breathe how i'm like i don't know i just run i just run you're supposed to be a toe striker

01:09:32.180 yeah i mean heel strike i don't gotta be i i don't know but in people ask about how how do

01:09:36.300 you keep your knees healthy i don't know don't go to don't go to cameron haynes for the answer

01:09:41.600 no no no just genetics i guess you know you know where i will go you to for you to for the

01:09:47.180 the answer bow hunting yeah i understand you've you've brought me a gift i did i did let's look

01:09:54.160 at this thing out unbelievable yeah cameron haynes has brought me a compound bow i know

01:10:01.000 and arrows we're gonna shoot that bad boy so i want to splice it into the into the podcast it's

01:10:06.760 sort of like a youtube video but um this is targets yeah yeah yeah no we have a target

01:10:11.140 ascent but yeah this is a hoyt um rx3 carbon and this is my signature series right here oh let's

01:10:17.940 go see where it says keep hammering up on the limb right here oh this is tight that's that's

01:10:23.080 your slogan yeah keep hammering keep hammering that's awesome i need you to uh sign this and

01:10:26.600 actually i want to put this on the set next to all the weird props we have yeah we're gonna shoot

01:10:30.340 that thing now um i definitely want to do that i did have a question for you one to ten how how

01:10:37.840 good are you how accurate are you what are you gonna have me do hey oh you're looking at him

01:10:44.000 like an apple off his head no oh god dude please do not shoot an apple off andre's head no um 0.90

01:10:51.800 i don't want to eh let's just do it can you hit this heck yeah i can hit that the pecan yeah okay 0.96

01:11:00.320 the pecan is taped to the center of the target all right so through the studio yeah through the

01:11:05.640 the heart of the pecan. 1.00

01:11:06.480 Fuck about working hard to get a nut. 1.00

01:11:08.400 Oh! 1.00

01:11:10.460 There you go.

01:11:11.960 Focus. 0.88

01:11:12.800 Beat the pecan. 0.82

01:11:13.640 Beat the pecan. 1.00

01:11:17.480 Holy shit! 1.00

01:11:19.520 Did we smoke it? 1.00

01:11:20.360 I think you smoked a pecan, guys. 1.00

01:11:21.720 Damn! 1.00

01:11:22.560 You nicked a quarter of the pecan. 1.00

01:11:24.160 You wanna go back further? 0.99

01:11:25.720 What are you crazy? 0.96

01:11:26.560 No, no way. 0.99

01:11:27.400 Cam, don't you think this is a little outrageous? 1.00

01:11:28.920 What in the fuck? 0.99

01:11:29.920 You can't even see the target from here. 1.00

01:11:31.760 Dude, this is crazy.

01:11:33.040 There's wires and cameras and stands and stickers. 0.98

01:11:35.600 There's a lot of shit in the way yeah, man, but it's just electronics. No, no big deal who cares stay there 0.97

01:11:49.020 Holy shit, oh my god 1.00

01:11:53.680 Oh, you just threaded the needle brah 1.00

01:11:58.000 There's a pecan cut in half.

01:12:01.420 Oh, my God.

01:12:03.160 Yo, that is crazy.

01:12:04.960 That'd be a good one, wouldn't it?

01:12:06.100 Yeah.

01:12:06.360 That'd be good for a clip, right?

01:12:07.640 He really did it.

01:12:08.860 Dang.

01:12:09.440 Talk about getting a nut.

01:12:11.560 That was incredible.

01:12:13.240 Dang.

01:12:14.240 I mean, I think this goes without saying, but you were the first person to ever shoot a pecan from 30 yards away through my garage, all the equipment, the setup impulsive.

01:12:21.780 Pass the cameras.

01:12:23.300 Like, Cameron Haynes, you've done it. 1.00

01:12:25.620 Damn. 1.00

01:12:26.020 Look at this. 1.00

01:12:27.000 makes that was fun you've split you've split the nut yeah yeah we were trying to find a lifesaver

01:12:31.740 but that was this is our stand in as a pecan yeah we're a health house um that was absolutely

01:12:38.200 incredible uh i want to know what you guys think of of the the cutaways the audience give me give

01:12:43.600 me feedback because we might do some more like show-based stuff but i want to keep it podcasty

01:12:47.820 but yeah yo thank you for that um i do want to go outside and shoot these with you for real i don't

01:12:52.680 trust myself doing that exact shot uh so camera hands thank you for coming on impulsive the number

01:12:57.500 one podcast in the world that's it's a it's been fun being here and talking to you guys about what

01:13:02.340 i love so i appreciate the opportunity of course man uh where can they find you on social media

01:13:06.000 uh instagram it's just cameron r haynes and uh cameron haynes on facebook but yeah pretty much

01:13:12.140 just instagram tight keep hammering ladies and gentlemen we're gonna do a audio only q a with

01:13:16.820 cameron haynes right now spotify and itunes hit up that audio we freaking love you watch the flat

01:13:21.880 our documentary now on youtube we want to know what you think we'll see you next time take it

01:13:27.480 easy fam please hi we're here audio q a so funny you look at the set right now there's just bows

01:13:34.760 yeah arrows targets and a peak on split in half yeah all right listen man so you're 51 yeah still

01:13:42.320 working out you're still going hard still grinding when are you not going to be able to grind

01:13:46.980 when does the grind stop because of physical attributes or the lack thereof no i i feel

01:13:54.840 i feel i'm in better shape now than i've ever been but when i was 23 i'm way better than when 0.98

01:14:00.060 i was 23 that's kind of good i see that vein popping onto your bicep yeah that's fucking 0.98

01:14:05.060 dope do you have a do you have a head or neck vein when you get mad mike has his neck goes crazy 0.99

01:14:09.320 i've had a few angry moments oh really today was calm man i think i think you uh i think

01:14:14.880 you're running your daily running probably keeps you hella calm dude yeah I'm I don't know it's

01:14:20.120 just like why get worked up right I mean it's it's all good so it's uh yeah I mean I feel I

01:14:26.900 feel good I feel like I can do this forever so podcast happens podcast actually no and running

01:14:32.220 you you said you don't like podcasts right I don't really I mean I'd been asked to be on a

01:14:38.660 lot of podcasts and I hadn't done any for a couple years and it's just like I've talked you know I've

01:14:43.360 told my story i'm like it's not that crazy or exciting so i'm like i feel you ours is a little 0.99

01:14:49.800 different yeah we're not we don't we don't we don't like all just the bland shit we fuck around 0.75

01:14:54.600 right the reason why i did this one or was excited to do it is because as a whole it was like me at 0.97

01:15:00.480 23 i needed some direction i was you know i i wasn't accomplishing anything i didn't have a

01:15:05.900 good job i had no and i didn't have any direction so bow hunting gave me something to work towards

01:15:10.720 And, you know, I was, I was an athlete in high school and then I wasn't, and it's like,

01:15:15.100 like, what am I doing?

01:15:16.080 So bow hunting gave me something to, to train, to do, to work towards and to just channel

01:15:21.680 in a positive direction.

01:15:23.320 So I figured with, with the people that listen to you, if maybe they're like me and, and,

01:15:28.940 you know, don't really know where they're going, maybe they can get a bow and, and get

01:15:33.220 into archery.

01:15:34.120 Yeah.

01:15:34.380 And it is, it's, it's a, to be able to shoot like that shot that we had, you have to be

01:15:38.600 so focused.

01:15:40.060 like you there's no distractions there's no social media thing there's no how many likes

01:15:44.520 did i get there's no yeah anybody talking about me it's just like no all i'm focusing on is that

01:15:49.220 arrow going and going right here and and so there's nothing else that matters that can help

01:15:55.500 people that kind of singular focus can be healthy really i feel like for people that are that are

01:16:01.620 like uh driven away or kind of like uh pushed away from the hunting because of its impact on

01:16:07.480 like animals for whatever reason or whatever you know thoughts they've had their their whole life 0.95

01:16:11.080 they probably could get into just archery itself i used to do archery as a kid it was so fucking

01:16:14.740 oh yeah yeah archery is awesome yeah and that's what that's what rogan does too he loves just

01:16:19.020 going out in his backyard and just shooting arrows every morning because it's just it's just how he

01:16:23.240 just you know gets centered i want to do that bad bro shoot arrows every morning i want to chop wood

01:16:29.160 i'm not gonna lie i know seriously my dad is always outside chopping wood but it dad how do 0.99

01:16:34.920 you get the fucking logs where do you get like wood to chop eventually you run out i mean you 0.98

01:16:41.100 get them from your yard but where am i gonna get like a rich like la person you just haven't brought 1.00

01:16:46.080 in i bring in logs i want to chop wood in montana for the rest of my life call uh tree guys and be 0.95

01:16:52.600 like hey man that's a good idea we just had the fucking guys next door for so what are you gonna 0.80

01:16:57.700 do with the wood though i mean people chop wood to burn out you're right we would make fires we 0.95

01:17:01.560 got four fireplaces hit four oh do you okay cool yeah there's nothing there's we should use those

01:17:06.920 let's do it you know i noticed that about you actually when i was watching when i was doing

01:17:10.400 some research uh i was watching the way you shoot and i told my dad i was like there is so much

01:17:16.340 focus you take your time oh yeah you take your time it's like it's like a six seven second hold

01:17:21.380 yeah um is it because what are you doing are you lining up the shot yeah are you wobbling a little

01:17:27.620 bit for the right moment when you yeah it usually it's like nine seconds and so it's not just pull

01:17:33.500 back and shoot you know i mean there's precision with it like especially to hit that the peak on

01:17:37.680 like we were doing yeah i mean you know we're you can't really get distracted by the cameras and the

01:17:43.100 and the computers and the cords yeah you have to see this a tunnel focus on the exact small

01:17:49.280 the aim small miss small is is something people talk about if you just aim at this whole target

01:17:54.660 that's where people screw up if you aim at exactly where you want to hit and you're focused on that

01:18:00.020 and the tunnel vision and everything else is relaxed deep breaths just almost like yoga

01:18:05.600 and then just relax through the shot that's how you get insanely accurate gotcha yeah so it takes

01:18:12.700 time it's not just pull back your bow and fire yeah is there anything else that you think that's

01:18:17.540 uh like comparable in life in terms of like level focus probably i don't you know i'm not i i do 0.94

01:18:24.640 what i do i know what i'm good at and i'm you stay in your fucking lane i pretty much do it's just 0.81

01:18:29.480 that um i know what i like and so it's just like i know this but maybe i know joe talks about 0.91

01:18:35.100 jujitsu his training that probably gives same type of uh yoga probably helps people out with

01:18:42.000 that being centered um so for me it's archery what's your favorite what's your favorite uh

01:18:46.960 game to eat or favorite like meat to eat that's a great question elk yeah yeah you know we just

01:18:52.080 got some today my chef just got some from the the butcher really yeah you know i was thinking uh

01:18:56.900 because i seriously think wild game i mean the the stuff we buy is who knows what but i eat

01:19:04.440 wild game animals i kill and it touches my hands goes in my freezer it goes in my body i don't

01:19:11.440 even remember the last time i was sick i i mean i haven't had a cold in 10 years my vegan friends

01:19:18.200 would tell you the same thing based on do they say that based on the opposite side of things

01:19:23.240 i'm not eating meat and not eating but you're saying you've been sick and so i'm oh it's bad

01:19:28.620 yeah yeah so i i don't know it's it's in uh yeah so maybe i don't know eating clean i think it

01:19:34.680 makes sense well by the way it could they both could be right it could just be both of you

01:19:38.520 getting non-glo sourced material yeah exactly yeah yeah and but i i just know for me personally i

01:19:44.520 just i don't get sick i don't know if i've had elk i don't know venison growing up was like a

01:19:51.040 staple i mean deer is deer is amazing too it's it's my favorite meat maybe elk can compete but

01:19:56.660 to this day venison she's cooked elk what did i say about it okay for some reason the venison i

01:20:02.800 mean i'm sure i liked but for some reason venison is like by far my favorite my favorite meat how

01:20:07.780 gamey will you get have you had crocodile have you had snake like that kind of stuff yeah when

01:20:13.120 i was in africa uh we had crocodile it was good yeah yeah a guy there i didn't kill one but uh

01:20:19.460 a guy did and when i was in louisiana louisiana i didn't go to africa they gave me crocodile

01:20:24.840 alligator alligator oh yeah yeah yeah yeah there's a there's this uh jerky spot that i go to on the 0.52

01:20:31.420 east coast sometimes and they have every kind of fucking python jerky they have everything you 0.82

01:20:36.580 could ever imagine i didn't i didn't try it but i can imagine it's probably pretty interesting 0.97

01:20:41.040 shit yeah i haven't had snake i haven't i've had a lot of other things though i mean but my favorite

01:20:45.720 is uh moose is right up there too moose is great meat so but moose and elk yo i we kind of we kind 0.85

01:20:53.060 of skipped over this and it's not like crazy important i just feel like it's interesting like

01:20:56.360 it's kind of fucked up you know we talk about the cougar and attacking the guy yeah you think 0.65

01:21:02.620 it's messed up that like i want a cougar to attack me that no that's what i i i want like a a sweet 0.99

01:21:10.080 bear like across your chest and people would be like kill for that holy shit what happened i'm 0.87

01:21:15.200 like oh this oh just a bear bear bear attacked me a claw yeah across the chest yeah but it's 0.95

01:21:21.960 hard to get the the wild animal to know okay here's all i'm looking for and i'm gonna need

01:21:28.100 you to stop as soon as you hit that stay away from the face you know stay away from they don't

01:21:33.980 understand they don't get it they don't get it yeah yeah so but no i hear you man if i just got 0.84

01:21:38.220 one little claw and by the way i'm not aiming to like kill the cougar i just like man who i would

01:21:43.020 go toe-to-toe with a cougar well you've done a little bit of it you wrestled a bear i did wrestle

01:21:47.060 a bear did you yeah that's that's why i asked you like didn't i i read an article where like you

01:21:53.200 you braced once for or you did say how you if a bear did attack you what would happen yeah that

01:21:59.840 was what was the plan the right arm in the mouth and the left arm stab the left arm in the mouth

01:22:03.900 right arm under the armpit is that just to give them something that you to chew on just to occupy

01:22:08.680 their mouth okay basically so you sacrifice an arm as opposed to a knacker boom so who knows if it

01:22:14.720 would work but all i know is if i get a sweet scar i'm not gonna need shirts it's worth it yeah

01:22:19.440 i'll never i'll never need another shirt except maverick by logan paul of course no yeah i'd have

01:22:26.460 one of those he would just get keep hammering tattooed on him yeah yeah then it's covered

01:22:30.640 so is that the same is that the same kind of thinking is like if a if a police cannot like

01:22:35.740 they always stick the one arm i think so i didn't think about it but yeah i mean i think um i think

01:22:41.920 a lot of people that uh suffer from uh bear attacks try try and make a mistake of oh i'm

01:22:49.160 gonna fight off the bear like no i think what you've said made makes sense like you're losing

01:22:53.920 the limb yeah honey child sacrifice the arm for the greater good of your life i thought the common 0.78

01:22:59.820 practices play isn't bears play dead it's what are you crazy it is it is i'm telling you that's

01:23:06.220 so what they say and who knows because there's different ones for different animals some animals

01:23:10.860 black bear you can fight it off small a black bear for a grizzly they say you're never going

01:23:16.900 to be able to fight it off so play dead that's just kind of like a wise like an old wives tale

01:23:21.880 and what he'll maybe paw at you first because you're i don't care who you are you're not taking

01:23:26.140 down a group hold on what about what about what about running they run like 30 miles an hour

01:23:29.480 yeah but yeah but what if you what if you're weaving in between trees todd girley type oh

01:23:34.660 that's their that's their lane dog and you know it's it's crazy too because like some people be

01:23:40.020 like just climb a tree oh my god like a tree maybe three feet in diameter no branches just go

01:23:50.020 almost as fast as you can run on flat ground they can go up a tree like that like like wolverine

01:23:55.320 almost with no branches knowing they're so strong something else about bears i don't know if you

01:24:00.800 know this and i learned this when i was wrestling uh the trainer told me that the bear each digit

01:24:07.180 can grip just like a human finger they don't have a thumb per se but each um individual claw can

01:24:15.420 grab you like a hand and secure you lock you in place yeah when i was wrestling it um when i was

01:24:21.140 we were both on the ground and i was behind it for this one move and it uh it pinched they also

01:24:26.200 don't have like their hips are crazy flexible i don't know they lack like some some bone where 0.82

01:24:30.940 their hips are crazy flexible and it pinched its legs together and locked my foot in place

01:24:37.200 terrifying oh you're immobile yeah you can't do anything about an 800 pound kodiak i think your

01:24:44.680 leg i think your best bet right now for your career if you're gonna fight an animal would

01:24:49.020 be a kangaroo because you see a lot of that have you ever seen a kangaroo try to attack someone's

01:24:52.880 like dog or something did you ever see that one video yeah yeah box it yeah they're they're

01:24:56.660 they're ferocious nasty too they're nasty fox it is any any wild animal we are so soft we're

01:25:02.560 so bad i mean our skin's soft our muscles are soft compared to them uh you know they have like 0.99

01:25:08.020 an elk hide or a buffalo hide that shit is stout yeah our skin is that's why we we're wearing we 0.86

01:25:15.140 have to wear clothes shields you know and it's just like we're not we're not made for that we're 0.97

01:25:20.260 we're at we outsmart them we're never gonna be able to out fight them big facts man the why you

01:25:25.160 said it i think it's so true the wild is ruthless oh yeah it's ruthless people don't people don't

01:25:31.320 understand they they watch too much disney is is really what happens and they see the bears that

01:25:35.740 that uh you know people have humanized bears and and they see them on commercials and but a bear

01:25:41.800 in real life you just sing to it bear necessities that's why that's why the revenants important a

01:25:46.640 bear in real life is brutal i mean they in in what you know a bear like a male bear will kill

01:25:54.260 cubs it's called emphasize so they'll kill cubs so the female will come back and heat so he can 0.98

01:25:59.520 breed her so what a dipshit no they'll kill kill another another male's cubs so he can pass on his 0.99

01:26:07.420 genetics so you know that's i mean and there's been bears that have been killed and for whatever 0.99

01:26:13.280 reason the hunter couldn't get in there until the next morning to get them maybe they killed 0.98

01:26:16.400 it at dark they come in the bear is eaten other bears ate it they're cannibals yeah so it's just 0.92

01:26:22.260 like people you want to talk about i mean humans and animals you can't say like the whole squirrel 0.99

01:26:28.300 thing is like just like no these things it's a whole different uh set of rules well i was trying

01:26:33.680 to be respectful with the the squirrel argument with the vegan yeah and i and i told i was like

01:26:38.700 bro like i'm superior to a squirrel yeah and uh yeah again like i i it's it's interesting because

01:26:45.500 you sit with uh people of extreme views yeah and they do make good points he has some good points

01:26:53.300 and like i and i by the way i will sit here and listen and hear him all day yeah but i don't have

01:26:58.080 to agree with it at the end you know what i'm saying i mean they're they're not equal i mean

01:27:01.200 if if animals were so my dog my dog at home watches me open the door every day thousands 0.98

01:27:06.640 of times still sit there and be like man i wish this door was open it's like you fucking watched 0.85

01:27:11.460 me open it a million times so a human they'd be like hey i'm gonna you know do a little problem 0.77

01:27:16.600 solving how can i get this door open yeah so it's like i mean i don't i don't see any podcast for

01:27:22.200 animals you know i mean not yet maybe there's a lane there quick question quick question on the

01:27:27.600 vegan side if if one of your hunting reasons call it for meat were subtracted from the equation

01:27:35.140 from a necessity standpoint so we talked to him a lot about lab grown meat oh if meat started to

01:27:41.620 be grown in labs and it became let's say like like pretty adopted would you potentially like

01:27:47.160 is there any one thing that could get you to stop hunting i'm a hunter yeah i mean man has always

01:27:52.020 hunted since the beginning of time so that's why people who haven't hunted their whole life

01:27:56.780 like rogan he he was like you know in la he's kind of on this fence about hunting for a long time

01:28:02.900 didn't really know and then but once you get going down that road it comes back like that because

01:28:08.080 that's what we do that's what that's man man i'm surprised he hadn't hunted yeah he seems like i

01:28:14.980 mean he eats he posts elk on his instagram yeah yeah yeah but now he hat now but that but like

01:28:19.540 you're you probably were you know 10 years old who knows what but back then you know he was watching

01:28:24.620 joe rogan fear factor joe rogan right yeah so he wasn't hunting then and before that he was on i

01:28:30.040 think it was called news radio as a sitcom and uh so he was an actor you know you know how the

01:28:35.240 lifestyle is here it's just you know you're not just gets brought to you on a plate yeah yeah

01:28:38.880 it's it's not hunting so but what but the but the thing is is now that he's back into it it's just

01:28:44.460 like it's like couldn't imagine any other way because it's it's it's in our genetics yeah it's

01:28:50.400 what's what we do is what man does i'm actually surprised he doesn't honestly get fried more

01:28:55.500 i don't know how he's he's sort of immunized immunized he's very i mean we talk about this

01:29:02.620 from time to time he's very he very much owns his approach to things i don't think he i think people

01:29:08.180 that attack joe yeah or attack people that are in that kind of lane are they realize quick because

01:29:13.700 listen a lot of people spend that time attacking other people because they know it elicits a

01:29:17.560 response and so after a certain amount of time attacking people when they never say i'm sorry

01:29:22.400 they never even acknowledge the fact that you're pissed off and they just do another show yeah at

01:29:27.980 some point people are like all right let me go pick on logan because at least he's going to put

01:29:31.080 an apology out when he fucks up you know what i'm saying exactly well and part of it also is so you

01:29:35.600 got to think of joe's audience his audience they're drawn to him because he's open-minded

01:29:40.600 you know so they come and they're listening and he's got these scientists and he's got these

01:29:44.740 porn stars and he's got these hunters and they're all so people are listening and they might have

01:29:48.980 some preconceived notions but joe doesn't so joe will see so if if you're there and you're tuning

01:29:54.840 in you automatically have a little more open mind because that's what you're getting every day

01:29:59.220 so even if you don't agree with it you're going to listen because that's the crowd that's who

01:30:03.620 he's talking to do you do you draw the line anywhere what's your what's your thoughts on

01:30:07.020 mr alex jones oh god we got him he's insane we got him coming on in a week a week two weeks 0.97

01:30:13.760 he's insane i i was i was you know he was talking a lot of shit about joe and as i thought that 0.94

01:30:20.160 maybe he was doing that because you know he got kicked off a lot of his platforms so it's like 0.97

01:30:24.800 how can you make money if you can't get your message out so i thought you know what a lot

01:30:28.860 of guys do if they want attention they call out somebody who's famous you know what i mean and so

01:30:33.780 i see so that's how he got his name in the news like he was saying he was gonna beat up joe rogan

01:30:38.900 he was saying he was saying for a while he said something like joe was a racist and it's just like

01:30:44.460 come on he's always trying to get something that'll stick something that's gonna stick to

01:30:47.600 that wall and people latch on to it works he went at he went at shapiro a lot too right so it's just

01:30:52.920 and i thought it was just like i thought it was just a way to get um to get a platform and then

01:30:59.880 joe had him back on and he's crazy enough where i mean because i would i listened to it and i'm

01:31:05.940 just like god for like three minutes i'm like this guy is actually pretty damn smart and then 0.82

01:31:11.140 for 10 then for 10 minutes i'm like holy shit he's lost it yeah but there's but there's enough

01:31:18.120 glimpses of something going on that you're like you want to listen and then it's like watching a 0.93

01:31:23.480 train wreck and then you know joe then they're getting high on top of it and then you know joe

01:31:28.480 can just he asked good questions and so it just makes for five hours and then he had eddie bravo

01:31:34.200 mr conspiracy incredible original flat earther and so that dynamic it i mean that was number one

01:31:41.320 and i think trend number one trending out of everything that's incredible and we're listen

01:31:45.960 we're i think i'll speak for myself i'm open-minded to to uh to a degree and to a limit and so when

01:31:52.300 he comes on if he says anything about crisis actors at sandy hook yeah i don't like that i'm 0.99

01:31:58.440 gonna lose my fucking shit i'll pull a bicep just as fast as him trust me i don't fucking play that 0.99

01:32:03.680 those those people have they lost kids it's just like talk about something else it's almost like 1.00

01:32:09.440 trump it's like come on yeah fucking leave mccain alone talk about you can talk about whatever but 0.95

01:32:15.000 just like the sandy hook it's just like don't do it yeah it's just it's not you got to be better 0.99

01:32:20.180 than that yeah big facts that's a realm you don't venture um all right man i want to go shoot these

01:32:25.240 bows yeah and i don't want to see if the elk's ready for me to consume um shout out chef katie

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