00:13:51.220I mean, the Mind Architect, as you said, has sort of become an affectionate title.
00:13:55.520And it's really, I just had many titles thrown around for a while as a hit man for the ego,
00:14:00.120which was pretty popular, like a happiness guru.
00:14:02.300But I just really like the idea of reconstructing the way that people think about themselves.
00:14:06.660So that's why the architecture thing came about.
00:14:09.200And as you mentioned, just working with high-end performers who have a lot at stake, similar to what you've just been going through or you've been through for many years.
00:14:16.860How can we enhance the environment in which we're going to perform so that we have a better chance of success?
00:14:23.140So it's really, to me, it all comes back down to what is the fundamental design of our brain, our mind, and how we perceive ourselves is what is the access to performance.
00:14:31.760if you think that you're somehow inadequate obviously you're not going to perform very well
00:14:35.360if you have fear if you have stress if you have anxiety so i've sort of managed to reverse engineer
00:14:40.820everything to see why do humans get stuck why do they get stopped and it could go to the extremes
00:14:46.140of depression and you know some really tough things that everybody goes through the challenges
00:14:50.400that we face but if we can just transcend that if we can recognize okay what is it that's holding
00:14:55.700me back in my career my relationship to do with my health um that to me is you know that's a
00:15:00.880powerful things about access how how do you reverse engineer the mind though like how did
00:15:07.120you how did you learn i guess i'm asking in a weird way like what what are your credentials
00:15:10.480and how did you come to be where you are today um so the first part reverse engineer to me it's like
00:15:16.640you look at symptoms right you go and see a doctor and you've got like strep throat or you've got
00:15:20.440something going on in your body you're not quite sure where it comes from any doctor hopefully is
00:15:24.300worth their salt will be able to recognize okay what's the underlying root cause right now in
00:15:29.440western medicine they actually don't really want to do that they just want to prescribe medication
00:15:33.080because that's a business they want to sell pills right so with the mind it's the same thing if
00:15:37.380someone comes to me and they're having a relationship issue or they're struggling with something to do
00:15:41.920with performance in whatever arena it could be sports entertainment just something to do with
00:15:45.440their business then reverse engineer to me means like go back to what is it that is at the root
00:15:52.200cause of why you're dealing with anxiety why can't you speak to your boss about something why are you
00:15:56.520struggling why are you hiding so that's what i mean by reverse engineer is to take it back to
00:16:00.920what is the root cause of somebody's suffering that is impacting their behavior and their results
00:16:05.760so that's that's the reverse engineer part credentials i mean i studied an undergrad in
00:16:10.520human biology and exercise physiology i started as a trainer many years ago and then i did a
00:16:16.340master's in it and then i studied something called ayurveda which is the indian healing modality
00:16:22.640similar to chinese medicine so that has a very strong component about the mind and understanding
00:16:27.600how it influences our physiology uh what leads to disease and i love that word because to me
00:16:33.480psychological dis-ease or the absence of ease is what eventually will manifest in your body and you
00:16:38.340get sick so how often are you seeing results when you work with people um i'd like to say every time
00:16:45.320i mean there's always going to be a result and to what degree you know it's like do i take an nba
00:16:50.240all-star who doubles his shooting averages that's pretty significant yeah yeah do i triple a pga
00:16:55.500golfer's winnings that's pretty significant or do i just help somebody you know just recently one of
00:17:00.620my uh mlb guys he's he just recognized that he's been basically making his biological mom wrong for
00:17:08.82030 years and now to what degree will that actually manifest when he gets back on the mound next0.97
00:17:14.580season i don't know but it's significant for him as a human being to go holy shit because he went0.92
00:17:20.040through something that was tough when he was a kid and ever since he's held that grudge what he
00:17:24.820didn't realize is he's the one holding the poison even though he's making her wrong so is that a
00:17:29.560powerful successful result i'd say i mean that's that's huge absolutely yeah the reason i ask is
00:17:35.220because a few people come to mind and one person in particular where like the problems that they
00:17:40.580have are so deep rooted it seems like it'd be tough to reverse engineer a thought or feeling
00:22:47.480Like, as I said earlier, if I'm not good enough, then that's going to give rise to all sorts of behavioral adaptations, people pleasing, perfectionism.
00:22:54.180And then you'll have the symptoms of that.
00:54:48.140and it it's weird because i like psyched myself out so the takeaway here is i guess for the next
00:54:54.000fight i i gotta find a balance between being humble and realizing realistically that both
00:55:02.900outcomes are possible winning and losing or drawing i guess um but also selling a show
00:55:09.580yeah because i'm not a world-class boxer yet who's who can sell a show based purely on his
00:55:15.540athletic ability. No, I get it. And listen, I think honestly, this is why you have such a big
00:55:20.120audience, right? Because there's something about you that every human being can relate to, which
00:55:24.760is both aspects that you just spoke to. There's the entertainer, right? So for you, it might be
00:55:30.120on scale, but for somebody at home, their form of entertainment is trying to look good in front of
00:55:34.740their girlfriend or their dad. There's a form of entertainment. It's still a pretense. And then
00:55:39.600there's a part of you that I think most people are really enamored with, which is your vulnerability.
00:55:43.740like even the fact that you're letting me contribute to you in this way and go you know
00:55:47.460what you're right i was pretending to be like i'm the number one i'm gonna be the best and
00:55:52.200but underneath it you don't know that i have no idea you're freaking clueless i'm like i'm like
00:55:57.120this would be great by the way it's not like it's not like i don't believe myself i'm just like no
00:56:01.560no no i get it guessing i get it but you said one word which to me is what it's become one of my
00:56:06.020favorite qualities that i hope that i do embody is humility because my my quote-unquote awakening
00:56:11.820if you want to call it was that when i discovered those three words i don't know because i'd had a
00:56:16.580girl leave me you know which was perfect because it revealed my fear of loss which we now know from
00:56:21.380my parents dying was very strong in me as a fear so i meet the first girl quote unquote that i fall
00:56:26.380in love with what do i want to avoid happening the same thing her leaving me so as she left i fell
00:56:32.800apart and then i had all these questions well is she with someone else will i ever see her again
00:56:37.000blah, blah, blah, feeling sorry for myself, which is human. It's okay. But the answer to all of the
00:56:41.620questions was the same. I don't know. And once I got that and accepted it, I was free because the
00:56:48.400nature of life is uncertainty. You did not know on that night, stepping into that ring, what the
00:56:52.300outcome was going to be. You had the pretense, which is great. We could call that bravado or
00:56:56.200confidence, but to me it was vulnerability. And where you stand a chance to really evolve as a
00:57:01.260human being with the impact that you have to be even more powerful is to stay in the space of
00:57:05.640uncertainty whilst being committed right so for my athletes i say totally committed fully unattached
00:57:13.180i love that now if you get that i'm gonna give it my all but i don't know what's gonna happen
00:57:20.000and i'm gonna be okay regardless that's a powerful human being i feel like that it's rare too because
00:57:26.520we're bred to be thinking about the future we're bred to be thinking about you know we're going
00:57:31.540through school and you know get ready for college get a job do this blah blah blah you're gonna
00:57:36.160retire you're always striving for something yeah and you're never being taught to just be present
00:57:41.580just like enjoy the moment every moment that you're part of even if you're in la traffic which0.58
00:57:46.020that's pretty damn hard bro thanks everyone's everyone's ideal life is in the future now just
00:57:52.960get that that just didn't even make sense when when have you ever been in your future yeah and
00:57:58.040that's why people are freaking miserable yeah no no no but i'm getting there even the expression
00:58:01.960right i'm getting there well where are you getting to yeah the only place to be is here
00:58:06.440now i'm not saying that i don't as an entrepreneur as somebody who's committed to really shifting the
00:58:11.740course of humanity which may sound grandiose but that's what i'm up to is that i have a future that
00:58:16.820i'm committed to and i don't want to be fatalistic i might pass away tomorrow you know i don't know
00:58:22.860so i'm still going to be fully with you guys engaged in this conversation fully present
00:58:28.180and that to to your point about being an athlete and being a boxer the more that you can embody
00:58:33.380presence whilst being okay with all outcomes is the degree to which you have full access to your
00:58:38.380power to impact the moment wow that's so deep right and most people are as you said they think
00:58:44.340that their future no wait just when one day i have enough money my body's finally ripped and i've got
00:58:49.720the best partner the big whatever it is that people are committed to and i have you know
00:58:53.380have all the goals and aspirations you want but if you think that your joy your happiness your
00:58:57.860freedom is going to be found in your future then you're kidding yourself and you're in a mild state
00:59:01.960of depression i think i resonate like on the note of boxing i resonate with like ruiz versus joshua
00:59:08.760like ruiz came into that first fight like completely unexpecting you know ended up
00:59:13.880i think that's why he won yeah i and then the second fight you could clearly tell that he
00:59:18.440he he did not prepare nearly as much as as joshua did yeah yeah yeah like i i rest absolutely well
00:59:24.980because i mean the first fight like he had nothing to lose he was a substitute and he went in just
00:59:29.500like wow i got this like championship fight i'm gonna just do the best i can he like yeah0.95
00:59:33.600he didn't maybe he didn't give a fuck like honestly and he had fought six weeks before that0.63
00:59:38.480so he was already in shape he he already had his win right he's got a nice house in san diego we0.98
00:59:44.500went there for his birthday like he had everything he wanted bro and he just went in and
00:59:48.020was fully unattached yeah my question is yeah this is my one of the quotes you said this is
00:59:54.800my secret i don't mind what happens yeah you adopting the idea of being comfortable saying
01:00:01.920i don't know yeah being totally committed and fully unattached yeah how do you how how do you
01:00:07.680become fully unattached how do you say i don't know and how are you always comfortable with what
01:00:13.820happens and not be a sociopath right and i ask this because i sometimes have this problem and
01:00:19.660which is why i think uh this guy shane dawson did a piece of my brother and the word sociopath
01:00:25.720was thrown around so many times and um with with people sometimes i i i use logic to determine how
01:00:37.980I act or how I treat them or what I say to them. Because to me, as a person who is kind of
01:00:44.040unattached, who doesn't know a lot of things and who doesn't really mind what happens, like I want
01:00:51.040the best, but I always say this, yo, if you take this house away from me and you take all my money
01:00:56.200away from me, I will go back to Ohio and I will live in a tree and chop wood and I'll be just as
01:01:00.200happy as I am now. I've had this like level of happiness my whole life and the through line is
01:01:05.080pretty consistent yeah so how do you how do you do all the things you said you said you said
01:01:11.440and and still show that you care yeah i would actually say that's the greatest way to show
01:01:18.040that you care because otherwise what you're saying is my value is externally associated
01:01:22.300why are people like wanting an outcome because it's the accolades whatever that might be it
01:01:28.280could be a check for something it could be the recognition for something so to me the most the
01:01:33.500the highest form of care is where you recognize your value for who you are like you're in a unique
01:01:40.180aspect of life there's no other you on the planet and to me that warrants honoring that warrants
01:01:45.580reverence yet most people are under the impression that their value is somehow compromised i'm not
01:01:50.280worth something so i will compensate for that by trying to get something external so if i'm if i'm
01:01:57.420okay with me then i've got literally nothing to lose talking about the boxer right because i'm
01:02:01.740not looking for external trappings to try and compensate for internal lack of self-worth
01:02:06.660now if you really get that that to me is the most powerful human being because nothing can
01:02:10.860be taken from them and that's how i see every human being why because there's no they're one
01:02:15.440in eight billion how much more special do you want to be yeah but the trouble is most people
01:02:20.400because of the lens that they look through which is they've been told that they're not this or they
01:02:24.300didn't get picked for the football team or they lost this or whatever it is yeah it's human nature
01:02:28.900Again, why I have compassion and love for people, but it's not a truth to think that you're somehow inadequate. You're just not. That's a narrative. It's a conversation. So you believe that you're somehow inadequate and then you're going to do whatever you think you need to through behavioral adaptation to compensate for that. And that's why you're not okay with outcomes. And that's why you're not okay not knowing. And that's why you're also like trying to attach yourself to some external value.
01:02:52.800none of it's wrong but it's also futile because what you keep doing is reinforcing the belief
01:02:57.600that there's something inadequate about you that's going back to the one brain that's like
01:03:01.580coming up with this sense of insecurity that then is trying to find security
01:03:05.220not realizing you made up the insecurity in the first place so that to me is the ultimate form
01:03:10.680of care because it is self-care it is if the degree to which i fully love and accept myself
01:03:15.200is the degree to which i can extend that to all other beings like you're like you're saying it's
01:03:19.760self-love yeah so how do you have like tangible take home for the audience like a few things that
01:03:26.000they can do on a daily basis to like how do you practice self-love in a tongue scraping
01:03:30.640i took a picture the other day with my tongue out someone commented that i need to scrape my tongue
01:03:38.440yeah there you go i think the back of it could use a little scraping
01:03:41.920i mean anything anything that is reflective of self-care you know i mean kidding aside that
01:03:49.500It could be tongue scraper, it could be flossing.
01:03:51.220Like, what are you doing that is in some way honoring the life that you are, right?
01:03:55.740Another quote I use, I say, until you love and respect yourself, what makes you think
01:06:50.500Just going off of that example, one thing I always say to people,0.99
01:06:55.400and it's advice I give that girl too,0.98
01:06:57.360I asked her if she was doing something physical every day.
01:07:00.920like just literally just sweating so just sweat just make yourself go jump rope for 15 minutes
01:07:07.020yeah make yourself sweat once a day go to a gym i'm sure you'll end up working out
01:07:10.680yeah that is a huge uh self-care ritual for me yeah like when i'm hitting the bag yeah no nothing
01:07:17.180else nothing else matters movement to me is you know if we will talk about human potential if
01:07:23.140you don't have some consistent form of call it exercise or mobility stuff then then you're not
01:07:30.280close to accessing your potential it's just it's it's one of these what i call non-negotiables
01:07:34.960it's like if you don't have good sleep then equally i don't care what you're committed to
01:07:39.100you're not going to access that yeah so movement is key like doing something as you said that gets
01:07:44.040blood moving that gets your heart rate up that that allows you ideally to sweat it's one of the
01:07:49.440things that few people do mike would love you right now that's what he's always about he's
01:07:52.960always about just scooting around and by the way he sweats bro he gets it and mike's not a person
01:07:57.520you'd see and be like oh like that guy works out right but but he's moving he doesn't he moves
01:08:02.840yes he's he's he's not really in there to get in the best shape of his life he's in there for his
01:08:08.900physical and mental health yeah and by the way i know it's hard i know it's really hard like
01:08:14.680sometimes when i'm working i'm jogging i'll be a mile and a half in and i'll be like this0.78
01:08:19.180fucking sucks yeah it's the last thing i want to do right now dude yeah but you have to do it and0.96
01:08:24.340when you cross that hump your life will be so much better and something i've done a mindset0.99
01:08:30.000that i've adopted that has really helped me come to terms with working out and how it's become a
01:08:37.560necessity in my life is i will be partaking in fitness for the rest of my life yeah it's it's
01:08:44.920one thing i need i need food i need water i need fitness and so like accept it accept the fact that
01:08:51.860you're going to be in the gym two to five times a week and you're playing yourself if you're not
01:08:57.160and you might not even see it i i can say that because when i was training for iron man there
01:09:01.960would be days where i'd be on the bike and i would i know like in my training schedule it says like
01:09:06.800you got to go hard today and i wouldn't or i'd cut my workout a little bit short and then when
01:09:11.280it comes time for that actual moment for you to perform and in my case that was an iron man0.96
01:09:16.340i'd be like you know 12 miles in on the marathon at the end i'd be like shit dude like yeah this0.97
01:09:22.560is where those days where i could have put that little extra in came in handy and you don't want0.97
01:09:28.460to wait till that moment you want to be at that moment and you want to be like hell yeah thank god
01:09:32.220i put those time that time in when i didn't think it was even gonna mean anything with like it every
01:09:37.500day means something yeah with boxing i had that moment a lot in practice and i've made this clear
01:09:44.460before i i worked my ass off like i i always do that's never like a thing we need to worry about
01:09:48.880like me under working or anything but also with boxing i think it might be easier because that
01:09:52.840moment comes with the idea that yo if i don't if i don't go as hard as i possibly can right now i
01:09:59.560will be knocked the fuck out and become a meme and so it's with boxing it's a little easier to
01:10:04.960to not slack yeah because you can't like you're you got a lot on the line but it goes the same0.97
01:10:11.020for every sport because you don't want to have that moment of wow i should have worked harder
01:10:15.220on game day definitely yeah definitely well and even with fighting though it's like there's always
01:10:20.540a layer to it it's like mental or some preparation that you know you don't want to regret not doing
01:10:26.080i just i just remember like i was i was two months into into training camp and we were doing ladders0.98
01:10:31.760and i was like this shit's fucking hard like how easy would it be to kind of just like maybe go a0.98
01:10:35.880little slower than i should and i was like if i do that i'm gonna fucking die and i'll find that0.99
01:10:39.700like this is not it is not worth it i'm gonna push myself now so i can be comfortable fighting0.81
01:10:45.200on fight night i respect that i i think even dumbing it down like the average person out
01:10:49.380there like the days that you're not putting in a sweat for example like you don't know those
01:10:54.120consequences and the days that you have bad days and you're like why am i lost why can't i figure
01:10:58.140out my passion why am i that's that's the accumulation of you not putting those like
01:11:03.560really simple practices like you're saying like just movement it it's one of the favorite parts
01:11:09.220about the science of ayurveda where you were asking earlier about my credentials yeah they
01:11:13.300have a beautiful system called samprapti which is the sanskrit word which means the process of
01:11:18.100disease and they recognize six stages of how any disease comes into existence but the first stage
01:11:23.960is accumulation so you you gather too much of something so you think about even just like think0.89
01:11:28.940about your closet you know when you get too much shit in there then the accumulation leads to the
01:11:34.940second stage which is aggravation now you can't find stuff and eventually the third stage is0.95
01:11:39.620local spread sorry so now the clothes start to spread into you know they're hanging on your
01:11:43.600treadmill or they're on the floor in your bedroom so to this point about like accumulation if you
01:11:49.320understand that's the first stage of disease then what is accumulation it's where you're gathering
01:11:54.080too much because you're eating and you're not actually burning it off you're holding on to
01:11:58.140unexpressed emotions that's a form of accumulation that i promise you you know mike talking about
01:12:02.760depression or this girlfriend of yours like it's there's an accumulation of stuff that hasn't been
01:12:07.540discarded so what's one of the greatest ways to get to a place of feeling better about yourself
01:12:12.460sweat because you're letting stuff go donate stuff clean out your closet these are external
01:12:17.840tips you know that people can do to help feel that to inspire that sense of liberation or feeling
01:12:23.940better about yourself and and in that realm again of people who are struggling it might seem like
01:12:29.600the last thing you want to do. But when you're depressed, one of the best ways to overcome that
01:12:33.720is to do something for somebody else. Like oftentimes I've had people who are stronger
01:12:38.340in depression, go to a volunteer center, you know, go feed the homeless, donate something
01:12:43.480that means something to you, to somebody who could really benefit from it. Because what happens is
01:12:47.800in doing something, you realize, wow, I make a difference and your value goes up. When your
01:12:51.520value goes up, you're going to take better care of yourself. I resonate with that big time. I
01:12:55.560remember when i was down in bolivia and i'm like meeting these people who their entire property has
01:13:00.420like just been obliterated by a fire and then i'll come back to la and i'll start complaining
01:13:04.560about something like something small i'll be like shut up dude like keep you know i think that is so
01:13:11.380important for people to partake in something greater than themselves yeah perspective is huge
01:13:16.420i try to always i'm making a difference yeah because otherwise it's all about me you know
01:13:21.160woe is me it's all like i i i i i this is the perspective that people have i need this i want
01:13:26.880this i'm supposed to and and versus recognizing no i have the opportunity to make a difference and i0.62
01:13:31.480think that's something that you've done and you continue to evolve into which is beautiful is to
01:13:35.700help make a difference in people's lives yeah i think that's that's why i push that so much
01:13:39.500because i think like anytime there's a chance to you know use this platform to you know do good
01:13:46.000it goes way beyond us it transcends this lifetime it's something that you know people are going to
01:13:51.800forget the selfish things that you accomplish like yeah you can take that with you to the grave but
01:13:56.260that's where it's going to stay yeah like the things that you did for other people for the
01:13:59.780world that's what lives on that's what people end up caring about hundreds of years later and and
01:14:04.500that to me is where you know the stuff that i've been doing through hopefully podcasts like this
01:14:08.360too like it's just so touching when i'm getting these thousands of dms from people i've never met
01:14:13.500like i got one the other day that was so moving she actually left a voice memo in a dm oh that's
01:14:18.100about she said i've been for 51 years i've been a seeker and she said i was always asking what
01:14:23.680was wrong with me what was wrong with my parents what was wrong with the universe and she said i
01:14:27.740listened to one of your podcasts over and over and i realized there's nothing wrong and for the
01:14:33.040first time in my life i feel free and it's not to say that it's ideal it's not to say that i condone
01:14:38.780the way things are currently but there's nothing wrong life is the way it is but only always and
01:14:44.340then what are you committed to in terms of improving that but to resist it is going to be
01:14:47.760the suffering that people experience so yeah you don't know where this is going to go but like it's
01:14:52.900just it's so powerful and it's it's it's gratifying to get stuff like that back i uh because i think
01:14:59.460i'm 24 years old and i'm like a testosterone driven male yeah a term that i've like adopted0.98
01:15:05.680is like often i say this to myself i go fuck it fuck it dude like yeah in many ways it's it's it's0.99
01:15:13.300like a harsher version of everything you said that relates to me more just like stop trying1.00
01:15:18.120to understand fuck it this is where i am i don't know what's gonna happen but fuck it i'm sure it'll0.99
01:15:22.480be all right and if it's not fuck it does this make sense yes i couldn't have put it better0.99
01:15:28.520myself super profound yeah it's poetic yeah that's gonna be the quote that lives on it's like it's0.95
01:15:33.440like 300 years from now philosopher Logan Paul for all my for all my friend brothers out there
01:15:40.100like you know they're they're hearing us say like totally committed fully unattached yeah they might0.98
01:15:44.960not know what the words committed or unattached no no they know what fuck it means they don't send0.99
01:15:49.400it fuck it those are the two things they know and that's that's where again just to subtly to help0.99
01:15:53.760people like that's the I don't worry yeah because you care I can tell you care you've got a huge0.99
01:15:58.200heart you know you've got a beautiful family extended here and and but to not worry is where
01:16:03.280people will find freedom yeah and that to me is the greatest product is to let people be free
01:16:08.200from the concerns about a future that hasn't even happened yet we got can i put a exclamation mark
01:16:17.940no i just i want to ask something because i i've had this problem and i iterated this on my last0.51
01:16:23.000video on my youtube channel sometimes i don't worry and it it fucks me like like specifically
01:16:31.480in the fight it was round four i had knocked him down probably should have capitalized out on that
01:16:39.540but i i didn't because i just like there was no like fire at the moment and like round five again
01:16:44.120there was this like nonchalance that by the way has contributed a lot to my success right because0.97
01:16:49.680i don't worry but in some scenarios don't you think a fire should light under my ass yeah that's0.96
01:16:56.940the commitment but i've i believe the most powerful form of fire is where i'm committed0.96
01:17:01.640to something for a purpose not because of fear there's subtle difference right like so you're
01:17:07.060committed to something like when someone goes into the gym because they want to get in shape
01:17:10.440because they're concerned that they're overweight they've just been diagnosed by their doctor that
01:17:15.200they're pre-diabetic and that's a reaction to something it might give them fire it's like holy0.97
01:17:19.800shit i'm about to die i gotta go and get myself in shape i'm not saying it's bad but the trouble0.95
01:17:24.560is it's not being driven by something that they're committed to it's something they're trying to0.99
01:17:27.920avoid and most people are in a reactive state of mind versus a creative state of mind for sure
01:17:33.060so this is why to me one of the greatest uh gifts we have as human beings is imagination
01:17:39.480because you know the whole apple thing or whatever it is think different you know people have all of
01:17:45.460these mottos about like being creative like look at the leaders the pioneers the thought leaders
01:17:49.700that we've had in life they were people that thought out of the box and it wasn't in reaction
01:17:53.680to something necessarily that they were trying to overcome but rather something they wanted to
01:17:57.360create they wanted to innovate so worry to me still is in the bucket of reactivity versus now
01:18:03.880i'm going to create like something that is powerful that shifts the course of my life and
01:18:07.800the people around me that you you being committed to what you were committed to in that fight to me
01:18:13.480yes to a certain degree it's a reaction to a challenge that ksi put down but you also became
01:18:18.560a different human being by virtue of that commitment that to me is the real win yep yep
01:18:23.000that's the real like opportunity for you to see wow what can i commit myself to now
01:18:28.580that means that i have to evolve that i have to become a better version of myself not because
01:18:33.600you're fighting something externally past base that you're like judging that you're reacting to
01:18:39.700but what am i committed to do in my life just for the sheer hell of it that that's a joyous life
01:18:45.520yeah i feel like that ego too from the the win like the victory that fruit doesn't last long
01:18:51.260like we saw like people forget about the fight a couple days after right they're already moved on
01:18:55.840it is so it's so quickly so the prize the prize the prize in that learning lesson that you're
01:19:01.720describing is is lifetime yeah versus you know something where you get to like wear it around
01:19:06.320make a few videos like it doesn't last it's um it's short-lived one of the pga tour golfers who
01:19:12.060had like many golfers aspire to become a major winner like you know you win augusta or you win
01:19:17.360the british open or whatever it is he actually won the british open and you'd think that that
01:19:21.780was like the pinnacle of his success and for sure that night and they went out and they had whatever
01:19:26.020cocktails and they had a good time because he won but then he went into a major depression
01:19:29.760because he'd gotten to what he thought was the pinnacle of the success that he was striving for
01:19:36.420now if you don't have anything that keeps you growing that you keep having to go towards
01:19:41.260you are going to go straight into that slump i i had i was called in to address a major league
01:19:46.040clubhouse baseball players 25 guys with all the staff and they were in a bit of a slump and i
01:19:51.340said you know the trouble is in this room you all made it right so you think about little leaguers
01:19:57.260who then want to aspire to be like you know play at a high school and then a high school maybe they
01:20:01.780get drafted and they go into a minor league development program for organization and they're
01:20:05.580an independent ball and then they're double a and then triple a and then they become a major
01:20:09.260league baseball player that's it right yeah but then when you get there what's next yeah and so
01:20:16.740this group had become so resigned because they had nowhere else to grow into they had nothing else to
01:20:22.740become and so my invitation to you is like this fight i think was one of the best things that
01:20:27.400ever happened to you not necessarily because of what it was about in terms of an outcome but what
01:20:32.240you got to see in terms of what you're capable of when you commit to something that is beyond
01:20:37.460the current version of yourself that to me is what makes human beings feel fulfilled
01:20:41.360is how can i continue to climb the mountain that actually doesn't have a top
01:20:45.960it's not about when people say i'm going to help you reach your potential i'm like you're0.88
01:20:50.420fucking kidding me my potential is endless yeah you don't want to reach that how are you ever0.86
01:20:55.940gonna reach it like you you can't like what's so great you you say you win the fight now what like0.98
01:21:00.460okay great learn to play the violin do you know how to play the violin do you speak chinese
01:21:04.040then there's more potential i want to do both of those things yeah it's funny can you play the
01:21:07.860violin in chinese oh whoa there i was i i want to learn mandarin so bad and i'm and i want to
01:21:16.320learn the violin so bad too anyways that's just something i want to do yeah i think i think in
01:21:21.580terms of athletes the one that like really resonates with what you're saying is tom brady
01:21:26.780yeah like i the dude wins six super bowls and then i see him post on instagram and he he like
01:21:33.260throws a pass 50 yards and he's like man that that uh that was two yards short so i gotta keep
01:21:38.440working and i'm like that's insane the dude has six super bowls and he's talking about a pass
01:21:44.640that he needs to he needs to keep working on that's a special dude right there i mean that's
01:21:48.420like that but that's proof like if you're gonna look at the best like that's the mentality the
01:21:52.980mentality of like he's not playing to win a super bowl or else he would be gone he'd be retired
01:21:57.560four super bowls yeah yeah commitment to excellence you know and i think that is the gift and the
01:22:02.260opportunity that it is to be human it's to not sit and like rest on our laurels or just even
01:22:07.940you know just think that where we're at is adequate and you can do that that's totally fine
01:22:12.280you know but it's not going to necessarily be a fulfilling life but to recognize the gift that it
01:22:16.700is to be human to touch other people's lives to access what we have available to us that is
01:22:22.220is extraordinary and we don't know how long it's going to last that to me is a life worth living
01:22:27.240how do we maybe we can end on this note sure before we go to the audio only but um how do
01:22:35.220we block out the noise of social media because i don't i don't think it's helping i don't think i
01:22:39.320don't think this like group think of negativity is is bettering anyone no i mean there's external
01:22:47.980stimulus right like so if someone would come up to me and say usually i've been blessed with like
01:22:52.600compliments like oh dude this you've made a big difference and so we want to listen to the good
01:22:57.220but if you can't discern between that and someone says you know what i'm not sure that what you're0.83
01:23:01.340saying is true or i think you're full of shit i don't like to be able to listen to both first of0.96
01:23:05.780is what we've got to work on right so whether it's social media whether it's a overly controlling0.99
01:23:11.460boss or a very negative spouse being able to learn to listen and not take things personally
01:23:17.520is the first thing to look at because otherwise you come up with a strategy oh i'm gonna drop my
01:23:21.860instagram or i'm not gonna pay attention you haven't actually dealt with anything because
01:23:26.100it's still there so it's you know one of the expressions i use is i say can i be with this
01:23:31.060that might be a weird term but it's like can i be with whatever the situation is if somebody
01:23:35.380has an opinion about me that maybe doesn't seem subjectively flattering, can I let them have that
01:23:39.980opinion and not be upset? So that to me is the opportunity for a human being to get to a place
01:23:44.460where you're okay with what is. It doesn't mean you want to hang out in that situation, but I'm
01:23:48.020not going to be affected about it. But social media, it's almost like it's designed specifically
01:23:53.900for ego. Because if you look at the nature of what it is, it's like, I want to be liked,
01:23:59.300which is the little kid inside of us who doesn't feel worth, doesn't feel love, doesn't feel enough.
01:24:03.940So hopefully if a thousand, 10,000, a million people like me, then I'll feel better about myself, which of course will never actually happen. This is why, you know, actors who paid millions of dollars have millions of fans will still end up in rehab because they haven't reconciled that within themselves.
01:24:18.800So that's social media, any kind of media, whatever it is, if we don't find the ability to be at peace and still with whatever's going on around us, it doesn't really matter.
01:24:31.120The world is the nature that it is, which is driven by people who are going to be coming from fear and manipulation and domination.
01:24:38.080So to find respite, to find peace, to find stillness within yourself, that's where it's at.
01:24:43.320That's the game to win, not about trying to control external stimulus.
01:24:48.160yeah because that's exhausting you know i said that's like driving around arizona in the middle
01:24:53.920of the summer it's 120 degrees out and you crank the air conditioning in your car but you're rolling
01:24:59.100down the windows because you think for me to feel comfortable i have to make arizona cool
01:25:02.700the thing about that metaphor that's what people are doing i have to control everything around me
01:25:07.620but for me to be okay that's exhausting but you roll up the windows metaphorically of your life
01:25:13.020like you just focus on what works for you and and don't try and manipulate circumstance don't try
01:25:18.380and get everyone to like you I mean people are gonna think whatever they think and hopefully
01:25:21.480it's nice and if it's not that's a reflection on them not you you know and that to me is a much
01:25:26.780more manageable and peaceful life to live I feel like with social media it's like because I deleted
01:25:32.600my Instagram and now I like I have a healthier relationship now every time I step away from it
01:25:38.040it's like i deleted it now i'm back using it and what i what i view social media as is it's a tool
01:25:44.160it's like a weapon honestly and if you just hand a weapon hand a sword to a kid they're gonna hurt
01:25:51.700people with it they're not gonna know how to use it but you have the power like you're saying you
01:25:55.660can roll up the windows you can wield this weapon however you want you can you can do really good
01:26:01.340things with it i think social media in itself is not bad it's just it's like an enhanced
01:26:07.160you know stimuli it's an enhanced reality where we see regularly how people are you know interacting
01:26:14.680how they're communicating what they're saying what they're doing unlike ever before we've never
01:26:19.100had this kind of connectivity it's like 5.6 billion google searches per day i think it's
01:26:25.880insane i think it's also the question why you know what is the intention why are you going on to
01:26:31.240something what are you looking for and just to be self-aware of that if you're looking for some
01:26:35.600form of like you said inspiration like i love following some of these mobility guys who do
01:26:40.660parkour and they do crazy stuff i mean it's just inspiring but if you're going on there because
01:26:45.520it's a friend of yours or someone that you knew who has a bigger following than you what you're
01:26:49.340actually doing is reinforcing the fact that you're somehow less than that's not a powerful intention
01:26:54.440yeah definitely not so it's again being aware of why are you doing anything what's the underlying
01:26:59.400agenda in all of your behaviors and that takes a minute that takes a human being who's willing to
01:27:04.200just stop and go okay why am i actually doing this what am i hoping to accomplish it and usually for
01:27:10.180the most part people are what they're trying to accomplish is they want to be right about their
01:27:14.180own belief of inadequacy that's you know super inspiring i i like that i like your analogy roll
01:27:21.960up the windows on your life yeah that's cool mike mike would have liked that too and that's not just
01:27:56.460Yeah, because that's an exhausting way to live. And unfortunately, how most people are designed, conditioned, programmed to live, which is we're under the impression that my circumstances are the source of how I feel, right? Like, well, I feel good because something out there happened. Well, then it's logical then that I'm going to try and manipulate everything around me to be good so that I feel good. But what if I could actually access a state of being and how I feel that's independent of my circumstances?
01:28:24.260i think it comes back to to what you were saying too with vulnerability and you know this platform
01:28:30.960for example the podcast is a space to be vulnerable it's a space to put yourself out there and i feel
01:28:36.520like that rewards us so much more than just trying to put this persona out of like look at us like
01:28:42.360how perfect we are and yeah i think more people are doing that but also like you're seeing it
01:28:48.380everybody's trying to be perfect still bro i i cannot believe it and again this podcast has
01:28:53.880made me realize that it's this podcast has made me so comfortable with myself and when anyone says
01:29:00.060anything negative or the occasional twitter person wants to speak out i'm like yo like this is me
01:29:06.860this is all i got like either either hop on board or or like please like i'll ignore you and do my
01:29:12.140thing yeah and then by the way if you i i firmly believe this if you're a person who like lives
01:29:17.640with that negative energy and carries it like that that is that is on you i mean i feel i feel
01:29:24.340empathy for you because that is not easy living in a world where you have to criticize others so
01:29:32.200you can feel better about yourself yeah that sucks and for that i empathize with you that's
01:29:38.020one again i love quotes it's how you know i write in my upcoming book i use quotes and i say
01:29:43.420making another person wrong is the poor man's version of self-worth
01:29:48.900damn right think about that next time you guys are writing comments about my hairline
01:29:55.380but but but but think about like you know i love i love the word vulnerability right and it gets0.93
01:30:02.380thrown around a lot but but i i got no problem being roasted i'm chill with it like i don't care
01:30:08.960i um i'd love to sort of just give a different spin on vulnerability and again i think this is
01:30:15.300where one of you know your qualities you could say it's vulnerability but again the quote i use
01:30:20.980is to say as long as you're being as long as you're okay being vulnerable you're no longer
01:30:25.260vulnerable now if you really let that set in think about the person who doesn't want to show
01:30:30.520some weakness they are vulnerable because they could be found out but if you're saying hey this
01:30:35.520is me i'm imperfect and i did this and i screwed up that where's your vulnerability because you're
01:30:40.220actually being fully self-expressed you're transparent so for that reason if you really
01:30:44.360can help this this hopefully will help the audience a lot vulnerability to me is like a
01:30:48.880superpower because what you're actually saying is in being vulnerable i'm sufficiently comfortable
01:30:55.020with myself which is an expression of self-love that i can show my imperfections i can show my
01:31:00.500weakness and that why to me if you can step into vulnerability what you're saying is i embrace me
01:31:06.720whether you do or don't that doesn't matter because i got to speak about something that
01:31:10.920i've been hiding that i was self-conscious of that i was maybe even secure about but i've
01:31:15.300stepped into a bigger version of myself such that i can even share it with you because i'm okay with
01:31:20.640it whether you are or not yeah mike would love that that's like that's what he stands behind
01:31:26.040he always says that he's like i forget what specifically he says but like that's the new
01:31:30.320wave like just being you being authentic being real and understanding that you is always evolving
01:31:35.900right so you know we're constantly hopefully in this process of improving and evolving as human
01:31:43.780beings so it's where i'm at right now is hey i'm scared of x whatever it is like i struggled maybe
01:31:49.940to go up to somebody and ask for their number maybe a guy struggles with that with girls okay
01:31:54.800But if he could speak about that, that's more powerful than the guy that actually has the same feeling but pretends he's all cool about it.
01:32:04.280But it's important to recognize because if you see that, wow, your ability to express all of your concerns, your fears, and again, we touched on it with the fight.
01:32:11.840There was an opportunity for more vulnerability, which have actually made you more powerful, is the opposite of where people are trying to have this pretense where like, no, I'm cool with it.
01:32:19.960It's like, well, you're not, and now you're vulnerable.