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00:02:12.320I got caught, you know, like doing the business.0.94
00:04:03.820And these hackers tweeted from their accounts and said, hey, if you send Bitcoins to this address, I'll double the amount you sent and send it back.
00:04:12.100And this will probably go down in history as one of the largest Twitter hacks ever.
00:36:19.660Like, but, like, my parents didn't know about it and stuff.
00:36:21.680so like my like people online knew and i wasn't scared about talking about it either it was just
00:36:26.520really like i like i don't know when i would have told my family had i not gotten caught but i wasn't
00:36:32.400scared to i just didn't i guess i just like i didn't see i just didn't feel the need to are
00:36:37.920you sure they didn't know oh no they did oh no prior to oh a million percent obvious oh they
00:36:44.700knew because of that but not i just never actually i just never actually saw them done was like hey
00:36:48.060i'm gay but they are oh they knew from day one yeah yeah and look at the result of their acceptance
00:36:53.460and non-judgment do you know what i'm saying like you ended up with someone who flourished in the
00:36:56.820space i mean i don't want to act like it was like always perfect because it definitely like wasn't
00:36:59.820sure sure are you uh are you on the forefront or at least involved in like the lgbtq uh movement at
00:37:05.940all like or yeah i mean i always like try my best to like participate in anything like i work really
00:37:10.080closely with like listen in the driver project as well oh tight yeah okay very cool yeah i'm always
00:37:15.020so so interested by that um i mean i think there's always like more to learn as well and i just feel
00:37:20.080like it's such a huge like part of me but like i just feel like it is me well that's what i'm saying
00:37:26.760so it's like yeah another case of being a hundred percent yourself is the thing that is going to
00:37:33.220make you the most happy yeah you know and and luckily for you it was something you realized
00:37:38.520at a young you didn't even realize it was just you it's like this is this is me this is who i am
00:37:41.820is there uh is there any advice or anything you'd say to people who who maybe come into their own at
00:37:49.140a later age and who maybe didn't grow up in like a left-wing liberal new york and are in the middle
00:37:53.840of texas and they they find themselves uh veering off the path of what their parents desires are for
00:37:58.820who they are going to become i feel like the one piece of advice that i always give to everybody
00:38:02.020and this goes for honestly like sexuality or literally anything in life is like you get to
00:38:06.940choose your own path like it may not seem like it and it might not be an easy an easy path to
00:38:12.500choose in any way shape or form so i don't want to act like it will be but like you know i always
00:38:16.500say like family is not defined by blood like i love my family and i'm very grateful to be you
00:38:20.860know have an amazing family around me but like had i you know not had that situation like i'm a firm
00:38:27.720believer in like finding people that would take a bullet for you and that would love you as their
00:38:31.640own family like when i was 17 i moved out to la alone because my parents were still in new york
00:38:36.640and had my little brother there but i got really close to my best friend laura who signed your uh
00:38:41.300who signed your lease agreement my best friend laura's mom is what and i'm about to talk to that
00:38:45.660into that right now okay so i um i met my best friend laura and her family they live down in um
00:38:51.880like east la um i lived with them on and off for six months and their family took me in uh laura's
00:38:58.100parents didn't even really speak much english and like i really worked with them to help them out a
00:39:01.160lot i mean they spoke english but like i worked with them to like help them and like and like
00:39:06.120teach them more about just like influencers and like artistry and stuff and um like they have a
00:39:10.400clothing boutique so like i worked with laura really closely as well on bringing a lot of other
00:39:13.380influencers into the brand and stuff and like getting people to use coupon codes and to wrote
00:39:16.940it and like still after almost six years now we're like we're still best friends and we still see
00:39:20.760each other at least twice a week and i see their family every day um and like laura's mom became
00:39:26.780like a mother figure to me so i'm a firm believer in like no matter what situation you're in you
00:39:32.380You know, it's up to you to, you know, choose your own path, choose your own job, you know, go to college or not go to college, be surrounded by who you want to be surrounded with.
00:39:41.980There's just been so many situations where like people, you know, I'm like, I talk to people that are like, you know, I'm just like stuck or like, oh, I can't do this because my parents said no.
00:39:49.220But I'm like, oh, you're 20 years old and your parents are saying no.
00:39:52.340Like that sounds a little bit weird or like just like situations, you know, or like guys that'll be like, oh, I'm in love with you.
00:39:58.040But like I can never come out to my family like they're homophobic.
01:11:24.080huh is that the normal way of things being is it is it usually uh unfortunately there are
01:11:29.720being into mass guys is a very huge thing in the gay community there's not a lot of
01:11:34.020unfortunately like there is definitely a stigma against like feminine guys there's a thing called
01:11:38.000it's called mask for mask where like a lot of the like hot muscle daddies also want hot muscle
01:11:42.040daddies so a lot of times like the feminine ones get like singled out to get singled out and all
01:11:45.820the feminine a lot of the feminine ones see i'm talking like i'm speaking in most but obviously
01:11:50.680that doesn't represent everybody but like a lot of feminine guys also want a masculine guy for
01:11:54.700like me for example like i need something that balances me out but like i love like i don't mind
01:11:59.120when a guy like will paint his nails like will wear like something yeah fashionable right right
01:12:04.480so does that does that make things harder for you as well just because it's yeah a million percent
01:12:09.040yeah i mean like i like being on dating apps especially with gay people as well like it's
01:12:14.12090 of the messages to me are like hi sister and that's like an instant on my life you won't date
01:12:19.640a fan no that's that's such an interesting topic i i my my girlfriend had gone on a date with a guy
01:12:27.360one time that she met through a dating app or something like that and he showed up with a
01:12:31.620picture for her to sign that is like that is my worst nightmare so excited to meet you could you
01:12:37.760just sign this and also can you do a video for my friend and send us like yo that's such an0.88
01:12:42.640interesting i would literally i would walk out right then and there she did yeah she did she
01:12:46.040she didn't know i think like it's i don't like it's a tough subject because like when you have
01:12:52.340a lot of followers people are going to know who you are regardless so like i would fan is like a
01:12:56.060loosely defined sure term in the situation but but but i would never if somebody messaged me
01:13:01.300saying hi sister i instantly unmatched like a vocal fan like someone that's over the top fandom0.57
01:13:05.340yeah that's a problem what if someone appreciates the shit out of your work like there's there's0.75
01:13:09.060oh that's fine yeah okay but even if you message me saying hi sister i'll still unmatch you that0.89
01:13:12.700seems like a bad it just not a good greeting yeah so you're having a tough time have you ever
01:13:15.820considered going on the bachelor uh i will after we produced instant influencer we were talking a
01:13:20.980lot about doing dating shows and stuff i actually had a few pitches that were very very successful
01:13:24.780but i ended up pulling out of them last minute which was a large monetary opportunity loss for
01:13:29.200me but i think my biggest thing is like i've been through a lot of shit with relationships and
01:13:32.960unfortunately a lot of it has ended up online especially after last year's situation so although
01:13:38.220i would love to find true love i would never want to do that in like a public way yeah like if i if
01:13:44.040i ever do get in a relationship which hopefully you know ends up happening sometime whenever i'm
01:13:48.240not looking um i would want to be with that person in private for quite a while before ever making
01:13:53.880that you know public just to ensure that like things were actually going the real so you don't
01:13:59.780have to do the break like massive break no i mean the coachella thing that you were talking about
01:14:03.020earlier like i talked to a guy for seven months and he flew himself out to coachella saying that
01:14:07.380he was curious or whatever and used me for followers the entire time and like that i remember
01:14:11.600that that ended up being like a public thing and like that was really tough to deal with and like
01:14:15.020now he has like almost a million followers on tiktok and it's like here right now and it's0.99
01:14:19.200like going to all the parties and stuff and like nobody cares anymore all right well fuck that well0.99
01:14:22.560yeah a million followers on my little sister so like everybody's got a fuck you know what that's1.00
01:14:26.960is can i say that's fucked up that was fucked up of him oh that was yeah it was fucked dude1.00
01:14:31.360like what the fuck is your problem now you got a million until you're gonna renegade for a million1.00
01:14:35.180but i've you know healed from the situation i'm not angry with him anymore i just don't care0.99
01:14:42.340but like i said was saying earlier i try to take everything you know as a learning lesson and i
01:14:47.100feel like that for me was a learning lesson where it's like i talked to this guy for a long time
01:14:50.780you know although we were communicating a lot i didn't really know a lot about him and my first
01:14:55.540time meeting him and hanging out with him should not have been in a music festival with millions
01:14:59.400of people where i could have gotten paparazzi and did so like that was a great learning lesson for
01:15:03.660me is like if you're gonna you know be seeing somebody that you really like it needs to be in
01:15:07.640private in a private setting where you know people can't take photos and they can't have their phone
01:15:12.060to post you like are people are people trying to get you still i've seen some tiktoks about dudes
01:15:16.920every once every once in a while yeah but i feel like now it doesn't work anymore because all the0.98
01:15:22.600comments like you're so fucking stupid like every time that people do it it's also just like it's1.00
01:15:26.360pathetic it's fucked up it's so stupid i always say crimes of the heart are like the worst like1.00
01:15:31.740I just, like, anything from, like, cheating or using someone in that kind of way is just, like, it's fucked up shit.1.00
01:15:36.780Yeah, I know. It's really stupid, but I will say, like, after everything that happened last year and me having to, like, get in front of millions of people and prove that I wasn't a fucking sexual predator, like, that kind of helped my narrative, my case now, where, like, when people do try to do that, everyone's like, you're so fucked, like, cut it out, like, leave them be, so.0.99
01:15:53.540So no dating shit, no Too Hot to Handle.0.99
01:15:55.920We have Harry Jousey coming on the next week from Too Hot to Handle.1.00
01:42:16.260He gets right up next to the microphone.
01:42:17.980I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other.
01:42:21.080You've never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween.
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01:42:33.900I'm Lacey Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creator, and host of Scam Goddess podcast.
01:42:39.560The true crime comedy podcast, all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it.
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