Impaulsive with Logan Paul - E226 Sadhguru Explains Life, Death, And Heaven

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00:02:24.260 Time is just rolling away.

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00:02:50.520 I feel like that would really just help break the ice.

00:02:52.760 Here we go.

00:02:54.260 i'd love to start the episode but i do hear a plane coming hold your plane maybe we could just

00:03:10.080 wait till after that plane passes that will happen that will happen throughout the course of the day

00:03:14.740 we could probably we could probably go we could probably run it all right welcome back to impulsive

00:03:18.500 the number one podcast in the world that's the statistical fact uh i know what you're thinking

00:03:23.440 Logan, you're not on your typical impulsive set

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00:03:43.500 Yeah, standing behind the cameras right now

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00:03:47.380 I'm going to say before this episode starts

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00:03:51.540 honestly, this could be one of the most impactful, impulsive episodes we've ever had with one of the

00:03:58.040 most special guests we've ever had. And it's actually why we're sitting outside. I got the

00:04:02.940 opportunity from my dear friend and ex-roommate, Andre, to have this guest on our podcast. And he

00:04:09.440 said, the only way he'll do it is if we were able to do it outside. And obviously with a studio in

00:04:16.000 my garage, that doesn't count. I said, you know what? We'll move it outside for this guy because

00:04:21.140 I really do. I believe in him and I was able to attend an event that you guys had the other day

00:04:26.420 and I just learned how badass and how full of wisdom this guy sitting across from me is. So

00:04:33.560 ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, we have in our presence one of the most prominent,

00:04:39.260 most viewed spiritual gurus in the world on the premises. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Saad Guru.

00:04:51.140 i want to get into how you started this spiritual journey i found that fascinating

00:05:00.420 um when i listened to you speak at andres you were 25 years old still am still am i can tell

00:05:07.680 multiple successful businesses and uh you were praised in the town as as being a man of success

00:05:15.820 a man who had made it and i probably should let you tell the story about your life

00:05:19.640 well i asked i'm sure you've told this story so many times but you know our audience hasn't

00:05:28.320 heard it or some of them may have some of them may have not and i know when i first heard it

00:05:32.100 i found it fascinating so maybe just a brief uh introduction at how you got started into

00:05:38.200 knowing everything in the universe i'm serious he has all the answers wait till he starts bro

00:05:44.100 So, see, this happened to me when I was just about four and a half years of age.

00:05:53.040 Suddenly, one day I realized, actually, I don't know a thing.

00:05:58.540 Don't know a thing means just don't know anything.

00:06:02.240 If somebody gives me a glass of water, I would be staring at this glass of water for hours.

00:06:11.280 Because I don't know what is water.

00:06:12.740 I know how to use it.

00:06:14.520 Even now, you know how to use water.

00:06:16.640 But do you know what it is, really?

00:06:19.660 Two hydrogen molecules and one oxygen.

00:06:22.200 Really?

00:06:22.960 That's textbook nonsense.

00:06:26.520 But what are molecules?

00:06:27.840 But what are atoms?

00:06:29.260 Like that?

00:06:31.160 Right now, two-thirds of the planet is water.

00:06:35.480 Covered with water.

00:06:36.960 Covered by water, rather.

00:06:39.400 It is available in all the three states.

00:06:41.340 It's liquid, solid, air, gaseous, everything.

00:06:45.260 Wherever if we want to search for life, we search for a drop of water.

00:06:48.820 Somebody finds a drop of water, trace of water in Mars, and now we think life is possible.

00:06:54.820 So this is the very basis of our life.

00:06:57.740 But do we know what it is?

00:06:59.480 Actually, with all the scientific exploration, we do not know a single atom.

00:07:04.320 We know how to use it.

00:07:06.140 We… even the invisible atom, we know how to break it, how to fuse it, 0.94

00:07:10.460 how to make a bomb out of it, how to kill everybody from it.

00:07:13.580 But we don't know what it is. 0.99

00:07:16.200 We don't know what it is.

00:07:18.260 So if I find a leaf, I'm staring at it for four hours, five hours.

00:07:21.900 If I sit up in the night, I'm just staring at darkness for hours.

00:07:25.400 My father being a physician, he started thinking that I need psychiatric evaluation.

00:07:33.980 Doctors, you know.

00:07:35.340 Same with Mike's dad.

00:07:37.080 He was right.

00:07:38.180 Yeah, maybe.

00:07:42.080 So, you see, oh, it's him, I thought.

00:07:48.040 So, in this condition, they sent me to school.

00:07:53.000 My mother said, you must pay attention to the teachers.

00:07:56.120 You're always at something else.

00:07:58.220 So, I went and paid attention to the teachers.

00:08:00.980 The kind of attention that they had never imagined anybody would pay to them.

00:08:05.800 Nobody had ever paid that kind of attention.

00:08:08.220 I sit there and I know their past, present and future,

00:08:11.580 staring at them, staring at them, staring at them.

00:08:14.200 Sometimes somebody said, don't stare at me like this.

00:08:16.880 I'm just a little boy, four, five-year-old boy.

00:08:19.600 But they're kind of uncomfortable the way I'm staring at them.

00:08:23.240 So I went to school and initially they started saying things

00:08:27.000 and I sort of understood what they're trying to say.

00:08:30.200 And then I realized, teacher after teacher coming and making actually sounds and sounds and sounds.

00:08:38.640 See, right now, I'm making sounds.

00:08:41.500 Because both of us think we know English language, you are making meaning out of this.

00:08:47.100 Suppose I start speaking in any one of the Indian languages, 0.96

00:08:50.060 they will be just sounds for you, isn't it? 0.98

00:08:53.040 We're just making sounds.

00:08:54.260 This language is a conspiracy between two people.

00:08:56.480 I make this sound, you make that meaning.

00:08:58.420 I thought, I make that sound, you make that meaning, you know?

00:09:01.120 This is the whole thing.

00:09:02.240 So I stopped making meanings and just started listening to the sounds.

00:09:06.740 And every forty-five minutes, a new teacher will come

00:09:09.720 and make sounds and sounds and sounds.

00:09:11.600 It became very amusing.

00:09:13.460 And a big smile spread on my face.

00:09:16.440 But they were not amused at all.

00:09:20.040 So I saw that there was no point

00:09:22.160 and I went to school only when it was absolutely necessary.

00:09:25.520 The rest of the time, I kind of...

00:09:28.420 I had more interesting explorations in the world.

00:09:32.820 So one day it happened, I mean, now about eleven years ago,

00:09:37.460 this school where I studied almost forty-five years ago or more,

00:09:42.780 they came to invite me for their one hundred and twenty-fifth anniversary, school anniversary.

00:09:49.000 I said, see, please, why me?

00:09:51.520 I was not just a bad student.

00:09:53.900 I was not even a student.

00:09:55.920 I only came when it was absolutely necessary.

00:09:58.420 Why me?

00:09:59.940 They said, see, our school has produced ministers in the cabinet.

00:10:05.080 Our school has produced sports stars.

00:10:07.680 Our school has produced cinema stars.

00:10:09.920 But you are the only mystic, so you must come.

00:10:13.180 I said, okay, and I went.

00:10:16.400 I went there and stood up in the quarter angle to speak.

00:10:20.020 I looked around same oppressive buildings.

00:10:23.540 And then I looked at this particular room and then I remember,

00:10:26.800 I was around 12 years of age.

00:10:28.420 one afternoon

00:10:30.580 because at that time

00:10:33.080 I'm in this condition

00:10:34.620 I don't know anything

00:10:35.640 if I pay attention to something

00:10:37.280 I can't take my eyes off it

00:10:38.660 I'm just looking at it

00:10:39.980 still trying to figure it out

00:10:41.020 what is it

00:10:41.680 so they can't get my attention

00:10:43.760 so he asked me a question something

00:10:46.860 I just look at him

00:10:49.320 I don't even hear the question okay

00:10:51.580 I hear sounds

00:10:52.520 I don't make meanings out of it

00:10:53.980 something

00:10:54.280 everybody's blabbering something all the time

00:10:56.780 So, I just look at him and he tries to get an answer from me for about thirty-five, forty minutes.

00:11:03.180 He tries hard to make me say something.

00:11:06.160 When I don't know anything, what is there to say?

00:11:08.080 So, I was in that condition at that time.

00:11:10.300 For many days, I wouldn't speak because there's nothing to say.

00:11:13.740 What is there to say?

00:11:14.660 I don't know a thing.

00:11:16.260 So, I was just looking at him.

00:11:18.960 After thirty-five, forty minutes of frustration, he got so mad.

00:11:22.800 He came and held me by the shoulder, shook me violently like that and said,

00:11:28.760 you must either be the divine or the devil.

00:11:32.960 I think you're the later.

00:11:36.120 Well, I was not insulted or abused by this.

00:11:40.600 My problem is what is this, what is that, what is that, what is that.

00:11:45.900 One thing was clear, this is me.

00:11:48.120 This guy confused me about this also.

00:11:51.100 I look like this.

00:11:52.120 What is this?

00:11:52.720 Is this divine or devil? 0.92

00:11:54.060 What the hell is this?

00:11:56.020 Suddenly I didn't know what is this. 0.70

00:11:57.840 Till now I was okay.

00:11:59.720 I did not know what, anything about anything,

00:12:02.660 but I knew this is me.

00:12:04.220 Suddenly this guy confused me.

00:12:06.520 So that is when I started sitting with my eyes closed,

00:12:09.340 trying to see what is this.

00:12:11.700 Well, it took a few years, another 12, 13 years,

00:12:14.460 before I realized what is this.

00:12:16.900 And what was that?

00:12:17.980 Huh?

00:12:18.160 What was that?

00:12:20.600 See, right now, what you call, as myself, is largely the boundaries of your body.

00:12:29.780 We can do an experiment, actually.

00:12:32.400 Can you?

00:12:32.840 Sure.

00:12:33.300 Let's do it.

00:12:34.220 So, you hold both your hands together.

00:12:38.960 And with your eyes closed, what you do is you intensely rub it like this for about 30 seconds.

00:12:46.220 As intensely as possible.

00:12:47.620 It's going to get hot.

00:12:48.700 I don't like this.

00:12:49.980 I really don't like this.

00:12:53.680 Sadhguru, my skin is burning.

00:12:55.200 Now hold your palms about four inches away from each other.

00:13:03.520 Something happening between them?

00:13:08.180 I don't know.

00:13:09.980 Some kind of sensation happening between them?

00:13:12.300 Yeah.

00:13:12.640 Yeah, my hands are hot.

00:13:13.980 Not about hands being hot.

00:13:15.440 Between the two palms, is there something happening?

00:13:17.400 I don't know.

00:13:19.500 Please try it again.

00:13:20.680 Not with pressure, but with speed.

00:13:23.100 Yeah.

00:13:23.580 It feels like there's like a magnet between the two.

00:13:26.800 So there is a sensation.

00:13:29.940 What I'm trying to tell you is,

00:13:31.740 how did you fix the boundaries of your body?

00:13:35.060 See, right now, do one thing.

00:13:37.040 Take your right hand and touch your left hand.

00:13:38.940 Is that you?

00:13:41.000 Is that you?

00:13:41.780 Yeah.

00:13:42.140 Yes.

00:13:42.820 Touch the chair on which you're sitting.

00:13:44.720 Is that you?

00:13:46.620 No.

00:13:47.280 How do you know this?

00:13:49.120 I don't know.

00:13:50.280 I can get off and walk away in the chair.

00:13:52.580 There's a whole lot of people

00:13:54.200 have walked away from their body, haven't they?

00:13:56.480 What about all the dead people?

00:13:59.400 Don't they come back on Halloween?

00:14:01.180 I think the most important notion here

00:14:04.040 is to understand that human experience

00:14:05.160 is 100% self-contained,

00:14:06.640 which you talk about very often.

00:14:08.340 No, that's not what I'm saying.

00:14:09.300 See, right now,

00:14:10.060 you're fixing the boundaries of who you are

00:14:13.040 only from the boundaries of sensation.

00:14:15.560 Where there is sensation, it's you.

00:14:17.620 Where there is no sensation, it's not you, isn't it?

00:14:21.320 Could I just ask a question?

00:14:23.180 I don't want to get too far ahead,

00:14:24.940 but I want to bring this back for the impulsive audience

00:14:27.060 who may not be aligned with this way of thinking

00:14:29.580 or know who you are exactly or your approach.

00:14:35.120 I have always been one to have a tough time with all of this.

00:14:40.180 Me and Andre have had many conversations about it.

00:14:42.180 I'm open-minded to it.

00:14:43.420 But at the end of the day, I always have a Verizon bill to pay.

00:14:48.680 I have health insurance that needs to be paid.

00:14:50.640 We'll go to the phone bills.

00:14:51.980 No, no.

00:14:52.340 If you don't use the phone, there are no bills, actually.

00:14:54.640 Okay, great.

00:14:55.540 Right, right.

00:14:56.800 But great.

00:14:57.860 And I love that.

00:14:58.780 But I've got bills to pay.

00:15:00.040 No, no, no.

00:15:01.000 Let's come to the Verizon later.

00:15:02.820 Right now, first of all, how do you define who you are and what you are?

00:15:08.380 Essentially, whatever is within the boundaries of your sensation is you.

00:15:12.380 Whatever is outside the boundaries of your sensation

00:15:15.280 Is something else, isn't it

00:15:17.080 See, right now, this water in this vessel

00:15:19.380 Is this you?

00:15:21.560 No

00:15:21.940 Before paying the Verizon, you need to drink water

00:15:25.000 Correct, yes

00:15:25.860 Is this you?

00:15:27.460 No, it's not, it's not

00:15:28.500 It's not

00:15:29.140 No

00:15:29.440 See, like I said, it's hard for me to even get on your level

00:15:32.680 To answer the question, is the water in the glass me?

00:15:35.480 No, I've been taught that the water in the glass is not me

00:15:37.980 Yes

00:15:38.300 I'm trying here

00:15:39.560 If you drink it, will it become you?

00:15:43.360 See, that's where I don't…

00:15:44.560 I don't know.

00:15:45.180 No, no.

00:15:45.700 All right.

00:15:46.020 Now, two-thirds of your body is water.

00:15:49.740 So, it is me then?

00:15:51.000 It is you.

00:15:51.780 Okay. 0.73

00:15:52.020 But then is it still you in the toilet after you pee it out as well?

00:15:54.700 That's up to you to decide.

00:15:56.120 Okay.

00:15:57.300 Then you'll get flicked out.

00:15:58.540 What are you going to decide?

00:16:00.260 Well, I feel like it's more…

00:16:04.340 Kind of goes through.

00:16:06.000 You know what I mean?

00:16:06.340 Like a car…

00:16:07.160 It doesn't go through, please.

00:16:08.240 Hello, it's not like gas.

00:16:10.240 I know.

00:16:10.740 It's not like gas or engine oil.

00:16:12.640 Here, your body is a certain composition of food that you've eaten,

00:16:17.700 water that you drank, and the air that you breathe.

00:16:19.880 Yes or no?

00:16:20.600 Yes.

00:16:21.200 So right now, we're just using water as an example.

00:16:24.540 If it's here in this vessel, it's definitely not you.

00:16:27.180 It's 100% clear.

00:16:28.160 But the moment you drink it, it goes and integrates itself into this body

00:16:32.680 on some level.

00:16:33.480 A part of it may go out.

00:16:34.840 That's a different matter.

00:16:35.820 But the rest of it stays.

00:16:37.100 All right?

00:16:37.460 so now that it is here

00:16:39.340 this water

00:16:40.500 which is in this body

00:16:41.560 are you not experiencing

00:16:43.080 this as myself

00:16:44.080 yes

00:16:45.700 yes or no

00:16:46.580 yes

00:16:47.380 may I ask a question

00:16:48.760 and then no

00:16:49.560 like this is a legit question

00:16:51.040 I'm very new to this

00:16:52.380 no

00:16:53.340 I just want to know

00:16:54.320 you're not new to life

00:16:55.240 I'm only asking you

00:16:56.200 simple

00:16:56.460 I wouldn't be too sure

00:16:57.780 I don't know

00:16:58.300 sometimes I wake up

00:16:59.260 and I'm like okay

00:16:59.720 I'm here today

00:17:00.380 my question is this

00:17:03.360 if the water is

00:17:05.400 me

00:17:06.400 and I drink the water

00:17:07.260 No, no, I didn't say it's you.

00:17:08.300 I just asked you a question.

00:17:10.240 Oh, okay.

00:17:11.420 So is it or is it not?

00:17:12.500 What was it?

00:17:12.860 Well, he's in the middle of a spiel, bro.

00:17:15.260 He's not done yet.

00:17:16.420 So maybe put a pin in your question.

00:17:18.580 No, no.

00:17:19.360 The simple thing is this.

00:17:20.700 Is it true your body is an accumulation of food, water, air, and whatever else you consume?

00:17:26.980 Correct.

00:17:27.580 Yes.

00:17:28.640 So similarly, the water is here.

00:17:30.740 It's not you.

00:17:31.460 You know that.

00:17:32.340 But the moment it's inside, you experience this as myself, isn't it?

00:17:36.300 Why?

00:17:37.060 Because it's within the boundaries of your sensation.

00:17:40.420 So your idea of who you are is only because of the boundaries of your sensation.

00:17:45.160 If you touch this, you know this is not me.

00:17:47.340 If you touch this, you know this is me.

00:17:49.360 Because here there are sensations, here there are no sensations.

00:17:53.300 But boundaries of your sensation can be stretched.

00:17:56.460 Simply if you did this, you will feel sensations between your arms, between your palms.

00:18:01.420 Well, you have heard somebody had a whatever an unfortunate incident

00:18:05.700 and they chopped off somebody's leg

00:18:07.600 and still the experience of leg is still there

00:18:10.800 though the physical leg is not there

00:18:12.260 because there is a sensory body.

00:18:14.680 As there is a physical body, there is a sensory body.

00:18:17.960 This sensory body, how large it is

00:18:20.800 depends on how intense your life energies are.

00:18:24.180 If your life energies are very effervescent and intense,

00:18:27.340 your sensory body becomes larger than your physical body.

00:18:31.440 Why everybody is rubbing each other all the time

00:18:33.760 is because they want to experience somebody else as a part of themselves.

00:18:38.680 If your sensory body became as large as this space,

00:18:41.820 you would experience everybody here as myself.

00:18:44.980 This is what you are thinking is love.

00:18:46.780 This is what you are thinking is sexuality.

00:18:48.880 All that's happening is your sensory body,

00:18:51.420 because of a certain moment of exuberance, has expanded.

00:18:55.420 Because it's expanded, somebody feels like they are just a part of you at that moment.

00:18:59.660 So now, what yoga means is, you make your life energy so exuberant, it takes some work.

00:19:08.600 You make it so exuberant, if you sit here, the entire universe is a part of you.

00:19:13.980 Because your sensory body is stretched like that.

00:19:17.600 So your whole experience of life as to what is you and what is not you

00:19:23.100 is determined by where there are sensations, it's you.

00:19:26.360 Where there are no sensations, it's not you, isn't it?

00:19:29.660 Correct.

00:19:30.820 Where I was going with that question,

00:19:32.540 and I'm trying to phrase it the right way,

00:19:34.060 is just that-

00:19:34.500 Just change the phone company.

00:19:36.180 Leave the phone, forget the phone company.

00:19:38.300 We don't need phones, right?

00:19:39.920 I guess-

00:19:40.580 In half the country, that phone company doesn't work.

00:19:43.780 Right, got it.

00:19:45.640 Where I was going with it is just that,

00:19:47.460 I think to a lot of people that listen to this conversation,

00:19:50.660 this is a, the conversation itself

00:19:53.320 and the entire thought process

00:19:54.500 is viewed by many people as a luxury.

00:19:58.100 A luxury that many people don't have the time, the ability to sit in and to understand where does my life force end.

00:20:09.640 I have four kids.

00:20:11.320 We live in a one-bedroom apartment in New York City.

00:20:14.340 You shouldn't have made four kids if you have only one bedroom.

00:20:17.420 Right.

00:20:18.300 Okay, cool.

00:20:19.620 I get it.

00:20:20.340 Now we're talking about the morality of parenthood.

00:20:22.840 I get it.

00:20:23.360 But what I'm saying is people find themselves in circumstances, whether they plan to be there or not.

00:20:28.100 And life has a way of dictating how much energy we can devote to this type of extracurricular,

00:20:36.020 some would call it paranormal, some would call it theoretical thinking.

00:20:39.960 You should not put labels on things that you don't understand.

00:20:44.540 You just say right now I don't have time, I don't have energy to do that, I will come to that.

00:20:49.600 But don't put names on this that this is extracurricular, it's not extracurricular.

00:20:54.180 It is most fundamental to life.

00:20:55.520 If you want to live a sensible life

00:20:57.660 It's important that you know

00:20:59.960 At least what is the nature of your existence

00:21:02.040 Without knowing the nature of your existence

00:21:04.280 If you try to handle this 0.91

00:21:05.540 You will make a fool of yourself with the world 0.98

00:21:07.660 Right 0.99

00:21:08.140 So now that we know that

00:21:09.660 Got it

00:21:10.140 And you ran us through that

00:21:11.280 Now that we know the nature of our existence

00:21:12.980 No, no, no, we don't

00:21:14.500 No, no, no, no

00:21:16.640 I thought we just went through all this

00:21:17.820 I'm the water that I drank

00:21:18.940 No, no, you don't come to a conclusion like that

00:21:22.740 It is opening up one possibility

00:21:24.720 This is for you to wonder what is the nature of my existence,

00:21:29.040 which he thinks is a luxury.

00:21:31.060 I'm saying it's like this.

00:21:33.360 You want to handle something.

00:21:34.860 Let's say you want to handle this camera.

00:21:37.100 You know nothing about it and you handle it.

00:21:39.820 What will you produce, I'm asking? 0.99

00:21:41.660 That's probably some horseshit. 0.93

00:21:43.420 Yes, that's what life is for most people. 0.98

00:21:46.060 That's what he's saying. 0.93

00:21:46.860 Horseshit.

00:21:47.440 In one room, they had five children. 0.95

00:21:49.980 Why?

00:21:51.540 There's one room, you should know what to do.

00:21:54.720 I'm with you.

00:21:56.180 I guess my question is,

00:21:57.700 if I go to the grocery store, right,

00:21:59.300 and I get to the register

00:22:00.140 and I'm buying my lettuce

00:22:01.100 and all of my organic vegetables,

00:22:03.040 and I get to the register

00:22:03.940 and they say,

00:22:05.340 you know, that'll be $62.50.

00:22:07.140 No, no, this organic vegetable

00:22:09.060 and all is too extracurricular.

00:22:10.700 Just buy it in Walmart.

00:22:13.060 Okay, so I'm at the Walmart counter

00:22:14.680 and they ask me for $62

00:22:16.040 and I say,

00:22:16.860 but I have found out

00:22:18.340 the fundamental principles of life

00:22:20.080 and I have a life force

00:22:21.020 that exists in between my hands

00:22:23.340 when I rub them together.

00:22:24.720 So what I'm getting at is how do you enthrall and ignite the masses

00:22:31.340 to take part in this conversation about what life means?

00:22:35.100 That's where I was trying to get to with this whole question.

00:22:37.120 That's what I was taking a long route.

00:22:39.440 I want you to understand you're dismissing a whole lot of human beings as masses.

00:22:45.440 There are no masses.

00:22:46.560 There are individual human beings everywhere.

00:22:48.660 If you have the patience, if you have the compassion,

00:22:52.160 if you have the involvement,

00:22:53.900 even if you go into the slum,

00:22:56.040 there also there are individual human beings. 0.96

00:22:58.340 There is no slum dwellers there. 1.00

00:23:00.500 Hello? 0.94

00:23:01.780 Yes or no?

00:23:02.460 Yes.

00:23:03.200 There's massive people.

00:23:04.760 There's no such people.

00:23:05.900 There are individual human beings.

00:23:07.580 Every one of them is concerned about his or her life.

00:23:10.880 Every one of them want to live well.

00:23:12.920 I'm saying, if you want to use the camera well,

00:23:15.480 the first thing is to read at least the instruction manual,

00:23:19.100 even if you don't go for a training, isn't it?

00:23:21.760 Hello? Correct. Isn't it so? So I'm just talking about the instruction manual for such a complex machine that's been given to you. The most sophisticated technology on the planet is this one, the human mechanism. Without knowing a thing about it, if you think you can handle it well, you cannot.

00:23:38.460 if i can just interject here real quick i think that for me when it comes to spiritual seeking

00:23:44.040 it boils down to the question of who am i right what is the nature of my existence

00:23:48.540 and the pointing right is to understand who i am i have to first understand who i am not

00:23:54.220 and so i feel like he was um touching on like under most people are so identified with their

00:23:59.240 mind and their body processes and they think that is them and so i think what he was trying to do is

00:24:03.940 give a distinction as to the separation of who you are and what your mind and body are.

00:24:09.680 That is one aspect. First of all, I'm saying, if you want to conduct anything well,

00:24:16.540 will you conduct it well if you know everything about it? Or will you conduct it well if you

00:24:22.340 know nothing about it? The former. That's all. You want to stand in the grocery line.

00:24:29.360 If you are smart, you will never stand in the grocery line. I have not stood in a grocery

00:24:32.740 line for years all right and for decades why because you're sub guru it doesn't matter but

00:24:41.380 somehow you will not end up doing basic things for the rest of your life you will get to do

00:24:47.720 something better because every human being is wanting to do something better wanting to do

00:24:52.700 something bigger wanting to live bigger yes or no yes but i don't think many human beings are

00:24:57.740 willing to activate on their desires i say this all the time everyone wants bigger better yes

00:25:02.940 faster the whole thing more expensive more valuable they're only complaining like this

00:25:07.360 right but aren't willing to do what it takes to make it happen understand what is the nature of

00:25:12.420 their life and act upon it so so the so the curiosity that would lead to the answer to that

00:25:18.060 question and it also it sounds like what originally drove you to meditate on that mountain because i

00:25:25.200 know again at 25 years old there you had like a spiritual awakening where you said every cell in

00:25:30.400 your body was some sort of ecstasy you had no sense of time and you kept having these revelations

00:25:36.880 and and one time you sat outside for 13 days and you opened your eyes you thought it had been what

00:25:43.160 i think you said 25 minutes so did that sense of curiosity is that what led you to to to go down

00:25:49.720 the path you went? See, we must understand, it is intrinsic to human intelligence to want to know

00:25:56.260 something more than what is there. If you leave your dog out here, he's just sniffing out everything.

00:26:02.580 Even he's curious. He wants to know everything that's there in this garden. What's wrong with

00:26:06.960 the human beings? The only thing that's wrong is they've arrived at too many conclusions,

00:26:12.040 either because of religious beliefs or philosophical beliefs or ideologies or some

00:26:17.900 nonsense that they've concluded and they've lost the sense of the intrinsic nature of your

00:26:22.660 intelligences wants to expand wants to know this is not somebody has to teach it to you

00:26:27.620 this is natural you leave a child it wants to look at everything isn't it so where did you lose it

00:26:33.920 because you made up your philosophies of socialism i uh if i can just riff on that just for a second

00:26:41.620 for for me when i was growing up a lot of my friends called me like they gave me the title

00:26:45.740 truth seeker and it was because i asked so many questions relentlessly and try to poke holes in

00:26:49.880 and what a lot of people would say and i really unblocked

00:26:53.480 you can do it i believe in you

00:26:59.280 and so you you speak about how creating conclusions and beliefs about the world

00:27:05.460 when if you really scope out and take a macro view of like we really don't know what's going

00:27:09.880 on here within humanity if we scope out and we see that we're a blue marble hurling around a

00:27:14.460 gas of fire at incredible speeds it's like take yourself back and realize that the beliefs that

00:27:20.460 i made about you know just dogmas and religions and politics and everything that you hold so close

00:27:25.100 is hindering us from being able to look at things for what they actually are

00:27:28.640 and so if you could just speak on how creating beliefs and conclusions about everything

00:27:33.300 destroy our ability to seek i think it would be very valuable how many of you believe in god

00:27:38.700 Just raise one hand.

00:27:41.900 Okay.

00:27:42.480 About five people?

00:27:43.460 How many of you believe you have two hands?

00:27:45.560 Just raise one hand.

00:27:48.760 Do you believe you have two hands, Milt?

00:27:51.000 He's raising them both just to prove it.

00:27:53.660 So I'm asking you,

00:27:55.060 do you believe you have two hands

00:27:56.820 or do you know that you have two hands?

00:27:59.500 Both.

00:28:00.480 Really?

00:28:01.220 Yeah.

00:28:01.780 Both.

00:28:02.420 If you know you have two hands,

00:28:03.660 where is the need to believe you have two hands?

00:28:05.600 One follows the other.

00:28:07.100 No.

00:28:07.980 Why not?

00:28:08.700 If you know something, why do you have to believe it?

00:28:12.780 If I know something, why do I have to believe it?

00:28:15.820 Yeah.

00:28:16.140 Because I believe one follows the other.

00:28:18.320 No, no.

00:28:18.800 I believe the truth.

00:28:21.020 I have two hands.

00:28:21.980 That's the truth.

00:28:22.380 I believe it.

00:28:23.460 See, the word believe means…

00:28:26.840 The word believe essentially means you do not know something, but you believe it is so.

00:28:33.740 True, but you could believe and know something.

00:28:35.460 See, I believe you are a good guy.

00:28:38.560 What does it mean?

00:28:39.420 So you don't know that.

00:28:40.260 I don't know.

00:28:42.280 That's what I'm saying.

00:28:43.420 I don't know.

00:28:44.500 I don't know what you are, but I believe you're a good guy.

00:28:47.580 Okay.

00:28:47.960 I believe he's nice and I went to him and he was terrible.

00:28:51.840 So are you saying forget about the belief and just stick to what we know?

00:28:55.380 But first understand the distinction between knowing something and believing something.

00:28:59.680 Got it.

00:28:59.960 So whatever we do not know, it is most wonderful of you and human of you to see I do not know.

00:29:06.740 Because I do not know is a tremendous possibility.

00:29:10.320 Tremendous possibility.

00:29:11.760 The moment you destroy I do not know,

00:29:14.140 your entire learning and expansion process has come to a cease.

00:29:17.940 And this is what you're doing with your belief.

00:29:20.640 That you believe this, you believe that.

00:29:22.840 All these days, people were saying, I believe God.

00:29:25.140 Now they're saying in California, I believe in myself.

00:29:27.860 I don't know what that means.

00:29:29.420 I believe in God.

00:29:30.780 And I do know that there's a God.

00:29:33.120 So you're saying to sacrifice my belief

00:29:36.940 so I can know things?

00:29:38.060 I'm not asking you to do anything.

00:29:39.320 I'm asking you to look at the distinction

00:29:41.780 between knowing something

00:29:43.600 and not knowing something.

00:29:45.140 What is the metric

00:29:46.860 for which something goes from belief to knowledge?

00:29:52.000 Is the…

00:29:52.900 Not knowledge.

00:29:53.740 We're talking about knowing.

00:29:55.260 Right.

00:29:55.700 Let me make a distinction between knowledge and knowing.

00:29:58.400 Okay.

00:29:58.820 Knowledge is an accumulated information.

00:30:00.980 I know this, this and that by knowledge means I have accumulated information.

00:30:07.000 Today, everybody is knowledgeable about everything.

00:30:09.540 This doesn't mean to say they know it.

00:30:11.340 They know it through the phone screen, everything in the universe,

00:30:14.420 but they don't know it by experience of anything.

00:30:17.560 So knowing is by experience.

00:30:18.920 I have two hands is my knowing.

00:30:21.360 I know it is there.

00:30:22.380 All right, even if I close my eyes, it's there.

00:30:24.180 If you argue with me, it's there.

00:30:25.880 It's there anyway.

00:30:27.440 So belief is something else.

00:30:29.600 Right now I know something, I do not know something.

00:30:33.060 These are two facts of life.

00:30:34.680 So if you live in truth, you will know some things, you will not know some things.

00:30:40.040 What you do not know, naturally your intelligence will want to know.

00:30:43.780 You don't have to seek it consciously.

00:30:45.740 The moment you see I do not know, your intelligence will start working.

00:30:50.360 The in-between thing is, what you do not know, you want to believe

00:30:54.660 and make yourself feel like you know it.

00:30:56.960 and that's caused tremendous trouble to human beings,

00:31:01.640 assuming things that they do not know.

00:31:03.780 I think that's one of the biggest problems

00:31:05.440 we're facing right now in our country.

00:31:06.840 I don't know how long you've been here,

00:31:08.560 but I think it's safe to say

00:31:10.880 America is probably the most divided it's ever been,

00:31:16.320 especially with the pandemic going on.

00:31:17.980 Well, you had a civil war. 1.00

00:31:19.500 This is better than that. 0.99

00:31:21.920 Yeah, it is better than that.

00:31:23.160 But I wonder how close we are

00:31:24.360 to something like that happening.

00:31:26.160 No.

00:31:26.440 like truth truthfully we at least sometimes everybody gets hot it's okay um i wanted to

00:31:33.400 build off of his his knowing versus believing uh i don't remember which school of thought if it if

00:31:39.240 it was plato or aristotle but um do do you believe that all knowledge comes from what is gathered by

00:31:48.000 one of the sensory uh parts of life by one of the senses is that your belief you see something you

00:31:54.360 believe you smell something you believe it or is there a or is there room for faith is there room

00:31:59.980 for metaphysical understanding of of certain things do you leave that open or do you have to

00:32:05.280 experience it through one of the senses so here if you go by your sensory perception

00:32:11.400 right now i touch this and i say it's cool no i don't know what this is

00:32:21.340 only because it's cooler than my body.

00:32:24.660 I'm saying it's cool.

00:32:26.660 If somebody else who is much cooler than me

00:32:29.460 touches this, they'll say this is warm.

00:32:33.120 Yes or no?

00:32:33.740 Yeah.

00:32:33.940 So I'm saying your experience of senses

00:32:37.140 is a very relative experience.

00:32:39.280 It's good enough for survival,

00:32:40.960 not good enough for knowing the nature of what it is.

00:32:44.960 For survival process,

00:32:46.540 you're seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting, touching,

00:32:48.920 which is what you're saying,

00:32:49.820 to go to the grocery store, all this is good enough.

00:32:52.960 But if you want to know what it is,

00:32:56.080 you cannot know through your senses.

00:32:58.180 How do you know?

00:32:59.680 I want to get into that.

00:33:00.840 How do you find out what it really is beyond your senses?

00:33:04.040 What's the practice that gets you there?

00:33:07.800 It's not about a practice.

00:33:09.380 First of all, see, if you want to cross a border,

00:33:12.700 first you must get to the border, isn't it? 0.92

00:33:15.920 Right now, you want to go to Mexico.

00:33:17.580 you can't go from here, you must at least get to the border first.

00:33:23.180 So if you want to know, this is why I started with the border,

00:33:26.500 but you went into something else.

00:33:28.460 I said the border of your experience is sensations.

00:33:33.540 If something comes and touches, it's a sensation.

00:33:36.700 If you see something, it's a certain kind of sensation.

00:33:39.360 If you smell something, it's a certain kind of sensation.

00:33:42.040 Everything in your experience is sensation.

00:33:44.120 It may not be sensational, but it is sensation.

00:33:47.000 that is why we are calling them as sense organs.

00:33:50.200 They create sensations in the system.

00:33:52.920 These sensations are vital if you want to live in this world,

00:33:56.220 if you want to survive in this world.

00:33:57.920 Otherwise, you wouldn't know anything.

00:33:59.320 Suppose you had no ears, eyes, nose, nothing.

00:34:01.720 Would you know what is here?

00:34:03.480 Nothing, isn't it?

00:34:04.980 Total blank.

00:34:06.420 You fall asleep.

00:34:07.720 What is happening?

00:34:08.720 Your heart is beating, your liver is functioning,

00:34:10.880 kidneys are functioning, everything functioning.

00:34:12.720 Now they are telling you even your brains are functioning.

00:34:14.880 But you don't know a thing.

00:34:16.440 simply because all the five gates of sensations have closed down, isn't it?

00:34:21.340 So your experience of life is right now limited to sensory perception.

00:34:26.400 And that is the reason all this confusion,

00:34:29.260 because the nature of sensory perception is such,

00:34:33.240 if you see this part of my hand, you cannot see this part of my hand, isn't it?

00:34:38.920 So you always perceive everything in parts.

00:34:42.260 Now with these parts, you are trying to make a whole.

00:34:44.720 It doesn't work like that.

00:34:46.020 right now people's understanding of what creation is what existence is is it's a trillion piece

00:34:53.440 jigsaw but they find three pieces put it together and they form something and say this is it this

00:34:59.320 is it i believe this is what it is you can believe whatever you want if we work hard enough on you

00:35:04.840 from your childhood we can make you believe any damn thing in the universe just know this right

00:35:09.580 i agree with that is that a shortcoming of humanity is that is that is that because our

00:35:14.420 brains have not developed to a point where we we are no longer limited by what we see feel touch

00:35:19.760 smell here or is there a way to break that boundary and have you done it the human brain

00:35:25.700 there's nothing deficient about it the deficiency is people are trying to operate without using the

00:35:31.480 user's manual they don't know them thing about their brains that is a problem because they have

00:35:36.620 lots of beliefs they have lots of beliefs and beliefs and beliefs so they can't use their

00:35:42.700 brains. But the moment you see I do not know something, do you see your brain starts working

00:35:47.920 in a certain way? I think saying I don't know is one of the most powerful statements in the world.

00:35:52.880 It starts exploring immediately. It's through exploration. You have come to America, I'm saying.

00:35:58.400 Isn't it? People came to America because of exploration, not because they believed. Nobody

00:36:04.400 believed there was a land here. They thought they were going to India. Yesterday, somebody asked me,

00:36:09.300 What is your experience of, you know, that Columbus landed in America and called the people here Indians?

00:36:17.360 What do you think about it?

00:36:18.320 How do you feel? 0.98

00:36:19.360 I said, I'm glad he didn't land in India, but I'm sorry he landed here.

00:36:28.360 You talk about this necessity for curiosity and this I don't know or questioning.

00:36:35.520 See, don't use the word curiosity.

00:36:37.300 Okay.

00:36:37.700 Curiosity is a very surface thing.

00:36:40.480 Okay.

00:36:40.980 But when you realize I do not know,

00:36:43.820 there is a pain of not knowing.

00:36:45.600 Right, and it leads to that questioning, right?

00:36:49.420 One of the things that some people use

00:36:52.540 that aren't as, you know,

00:36:54.260 that don't sit on a meditation system

00:36:57.160 to get to that place of curiosity,

00:36:59.500 sorry, to get to that place of questioning

00:37:01.000 and not knowing and being open to

00:37:03.920 looking at things in new ways.

00:37:06.360 Can I supply some vocabulary?

00:37:07.440 What's that?

00:37:08.380 Seeking.

00:37:08.960 Seeking.

00:37:09.460 Thank you so much.

00:37:10.180 Like I said, brand new to this.

00:37:11.600 One thing some of these people use is mind-altering drugs.

00:37:15.900 Ayahuasca, psilocybin, lasurgic acid.

00:37:19.860 What are your thoughts on getting to this place of understanding through alternate means?

00:37:27.200 See, it's like you can jinx the brain to create all kinds of experiences.

00:37:37.440 just by strongly dreaming about it, you can do it, actually.

00:37:42.460 People do it.

00:37:43.640 You can hypnotize somebody and make them go through all kinds of things.

00:37:47.660 If you're only hunting for experiences, it's fine.

00:37:51.700 But what I'm talking is not about hunting for experiences,

00:37:55.880 a genuine exploration.

00:37:58.360 If you put on a VR and sit here, you may go to Mars right now.

00:38:03.260 But you've not gone to Mars, that's all I'm saying.

00:38:07.440 So by making some chemical changes forcefully, by introducing something,

00:38:11.780 whether it's of natural origin or it came from the backstreet of something,

00:38:16.980 it doesn't matter where it came from,

00:38:18.980 you stimulate something chemically and an experience happened.

00:38:22.940 If you did it just one time and you use this as a way to understand

00:38:29.840 that I'm capable of these experiences.

00:38:32.780 You know, yesterday, I was just doing a daily quote today morning.

00:38:36.360 The quote was something like this, if I can repeat that.

00:38:39.900 It is like, whatever was the most wonderful and the peak level of emotion or experience you had,

00:38:49.120 make that your baseline in your life.

00:38:51.320 Because you're capable of that, all right?

00:38:54.080 You're capable of that.

00:38:55.280 What you're capable of must happen.

00:38:57.220 What you're capable of will not happen.

00:38:58.920 That's a different matter.

00:39:00.120 What you're capable of.

00:39:01.560 If you're capable of a certain level of joy, that must be your baseline.

00:39:06.420 Now you will explore what's beyond.

00:39:08.400 Now most people think these peak experiences happen only when somebody loves me,

00:39:13.240 only when I pop this pill, only when I smoke this stuff.

00:39:16.540 This is the wrong way to do it.

00:39:18.180 If you used it just once to understand that my body and my, you know,

00:39:23.360 experience is capable of reaching such a peak, and then you start living there, that's great.

00:39:28.580 But every time you have to pop something and tomorrow you're sick,

00:39:31.560 What's the point of that?

00:39:35.420 So I grew peace and happiness.

00:39:37.480 I know I've asked you all, what do you truly want, right?

00:39:39.980 What do you truly want in this life?

00:39:41.900 And we, in the 3D material world, are chasing a lot of things because of the feeling that

00:39:46.220 it's going to give us, right?

00:39:47.220 And so peace and happiness seems to be the answer amongst a lot of people that I ask.

00:39:51.260 And I hear you talk about how peace should be the fundamental baseline foundation in

00:39:55.100 which you live, not the highest aspiration.

00:39:57.340 And so if you could speak for people that don't have that peace currently within their

00:40:01.040 life and want that to be the basis for their whole life how can they do that yeah this is the most

00:40:06.760 unfortunate thing in the world that most human beings just do not know how to be at ease they're

00:40:13.440 not even at ease forget about joy forget about blissfulness there is no ease they're all in this

00:40:19.960 jangled state and now they say this is how human beings are doctors say because that's their

00:40:26.080 business. Pharmaceutical companies say that's their business. See, for example, United States,

00:40:31.280 we are here in USA. So let's take this as an example. This is the most affluent country on

00:40:36.060 the planet right now. Why does an individual person or a society or a nation seek affluence?

00:40:43.440 In the first stage of affluence, it's a choice of nourishment. I can eat what I want. If I'm hungry,

00:40:49.300 I'm thinking of money. Why? Because if I have money, I can eat whatever I want. In the second

00:40:54.760 level of affluence it's the lifestyle i can live the way i want i can do things that i want to do

00:41:00.200 so now in the most affluent country where there is a choice of nourishment and a choice of lifestyles

00:41:06.600 like nowhere else why are you spending 3.25 trillion dollars as your health care

00:41:14.040 something must be wrong with you hello when you have a choice of nourishment and choice of

00:41:20.280 lifestyle why are you sick i'm asking 3.25 trillion dollars is more than india's budget

00:41:27.460 all right annual budget for 1.2 billion people so where do we go wrong that's what we're looking at

00:41:35.920 now it's not about greed the problem is without understanding if you do not know how this camera

00:41:42.720 functions and you use it i'll assure you this is going to break down in three days

00:41:46.820 Yes or no?

00:41:49.540 One who knows it, they may use it for a lifetime.

00:41:52.460 One who does not know it, will break it in three days.

00:41:55.040 Yes or no?

00:41:55.840 Yep.

00:41:56.700 That's all you're doing.

00:41:57.700 Yeah.

00:42:00.980 No, no, it's not about them.

00:42:02.940 You are in charge of your life, you don't know a thing about this.

00:42:06.660 Because you think by fixing the outside world, everything will be okay.

00:42:10.000 Because roads are done, bridges are done, airplanes are flying, you think everything is done.

00:42:14.480 No.

00:42:14.760 You know, a human experience essentially happens from within you.

00:42:19.980 Outside conducive atmospheres we want to create, that is there.

00:42:24.540 See, it's like this.

00:42:27.440 If you look at it, he articulated this in one way.

00:42:31.620 Essentially, what is it that you want?

00:42:34.280 You want pleasantness of the body.

00:42:36.580 If body becomes pleasant, we call it health.

00:42:39.820 Do you want it?

00:42:40.640 So badly.

00:42:41.720 Yes.

00:42:42.000 If it becomes very pleasant, we call it pleasure.

00:42:47.420 If mind becomes pleasant, we call this peace.

00:42:50.840 If it becomes very pleasant, we call this joy.

00:42:54.140 If your emotions become pleasant, we call this love.

00:42:57.140 If it becomes very pleasant, we call it compassion.

00:43:00.660 If your very life energies become pleasant, we call this blissfulness.

00:43:04.320 If it becomes very pleasant, we call it ecstasy.

00:43:07.540 If your surroundings become pleasant, we call it success.

00:43:10.540 only to create your surroundings in a pleasant manner,

00:43:15.340 you need the cooperation of all these people.

00:43:19.060 But for pleasantness of body, pleasantness of mind,

00:43:22.840 pleasantness of emotion and energy,

00:43:24.680 it is 100% your business, yes or no?

00:43:27.900 Yep.

00:43:29.480 So only to create pleasantness around us,

00:43:33.320 we need, because there are many forces involved,

00:43:35.460 we need help from them, we need cooperation from them.

00:43:38.600 Otherwise, anybody can make it nasty right now.

00:43:41.580 But what happens in your body, what happens in your mind,

00:43:45.040 in your emotion and your energy is absolutely your business.

00:43:48.860 If you take charge of this, creating pleasantness in the atmosphere,

00:43:53.360 you are at least competent to do it.

00:43:55.960 Otherwise, you are always at somebody else's mercy.

00:43:58.000 Why everybody wants to meet the most wonderful person?

00:44:00.880 Why?

00:44:01.220 I am asking you, why the hell are you not that wonderful person?

00:44:04.200 why are you looking for that wonderful person to mess them up

00:44:08.540 andre andre brought up something uh which is is near and dear to me and this is uh this

00:44:17.580 fight or quest for inner peace and and i i you you speak about this a little bit

00:44:24.820 and you speak about um people's inability to to understand and and and to not ask the right

00:44:33.060 questions or to not seek properly. What are your thoughts on underlying mental health conditions

00:44:38.660 as a combatant to people's ability to find that inner peace? Do you believe in true mental health

00:44:47.960 as scientifically diagnosed? Are you not a believer in it? I'm not a believer or a disbeliever of

00:44:55.060 anything. I'm willing to look at every aspect of life as it is. Is that okay? Everything's okay.

00:45:03.060 Who am I to say that it's not okay, Sadhguru?

00:45:05.280 No, no, because you're continuously coming back to believe, believe.

00:45:08.300 Do you believe this?

00:45:09.140 Do you believe that?

00:45:09.740 I don't believe a damn thing, nor do I disbelieve anything. 0.97

00:45:13.420 What happens when you die? 0.99

00:45:16.860 I love that laugh.

00:45:18.040 Why are you making me die?

00:45:19.440 Why don't you ask that question?

00:45:20.420 What happens when I die, Sadhguru?

00:45:23.800 Some things you know best only by experience.

00:45:26.460 Sure, you want me to die right here, right now?

00:45:28.240 And come back and tell us? 0.88

00:45:29.160 Because you want to experience it.

00:45:29.700 This will get a lot of views.

00:45:30.900 I'll tell you that much.

00:45:31.660 No, I won't do it.

00:45:33.800 But seriously,

00:45:34.500 based on what you just said,

00:45:38.760 technically you don't have a belief

00:45:41.000 on what happens when you die,

00:45:42.640 but surely you think…

00:45:45.200 I have just this year,

00:45:47.260 in the month of February,

00:45:48.720 I published a book called Death,

00:45:51.000 which is on a top salary of selling lists

00:45:53.040 for the last 10 months.

00:45:54.820 Continuously.

00:45:55.840 The book is titled as

00:45:57.380 Death, an Inside Story. 0.98

00:45:59.980 It's only for those who shall die.

00:46:03.600 That's going to be...

00:46:05.240 How could they read it?

00:46:06.600 Everyone looks like this book is for me.

00:46:07.840 100%.

00:46:08.600 Of course.

00:46:10.580 You're a great marketer, Sadhguru.

00:46:12.600 What happens when I die?

00:46:13.920 Well, maybe not me, but does one go to heaven?

00:46:18.480 Well, which heaven you want to go?

00:46:20.620 Because every religion has their own heaven.

00:46:22.860 This is where it gets tricky.

00:46:23.940 Now you've lost me.

00:46:25.740 Because you do not know what is in the heaven,

00:46:27.680 let me describe it to you.

00:46:29.100 In the Hindu heaven, food is very good.

00:46:37.800 If you're a foodie, that's where you must go. 1.00

00:46:42.040 In the other heaven, there are, you know, long white-gowned ladies floating in the sky. 0.86

00:46:49.400 You like that means, you go there.

00:46:51.080 That one's Mike's.

00:46:52.260 I like food.

00:46:52.940 In another place, you will encounter virgin problems.

00:46:57.580 If that's what you're looking for, you go there.

00:47:01.120 But what do you have to do to go there? 1.00

00:47:04.140 You got to die first. 1.00

00:47:06.060 That's an important thing. 1.00

00:47:07.800 When you die, depending on your culture, 1.00

00:47:11.420 we will either bury you, burn you, cut you and throw you to the birds, 1.00

00:47:14.960 do something with your body. 1.00

00:47:17.060 Because this body is a piece of this planet.

00:47:20.400 When your job is done, you must put it back.

00:47:22.740 If you've not done anything eco-friendly,

00:47:24.820 at least this much you must do, 1.00

00:47:26.400 put the damn body back. 1.00

00:47:28.100 Some people are talking about 1.00

00:47:29.180 going to Mars with it.

00:47:30.960 All right?

00:47:32.360 You must put it back.

00:47:33.760 That is one sensible thing to do.

00:47:35.420 I'm telling everybody in the United States,

00:47:37.220 I know I will become very unpopular.

00:47:39.380 Why are you wasting cutting a tree

00:47:41.180 when a man dies?

00:47:42.860 At least plant a tree.

00:47:44.560 Because you make good manure. 0.98

00:47:46.320 Have you seen those sacks?

00:47:48.680 Have you seen?

00:47:49.420 Seriously.

00:47:49.900 Yes, I know.

00:47:50.800 There's these sacks you can place your body in

00:47:52.980 and a tree will grow out of it.

00:47:53.860 I know you don't need a sack also.

00:47:55.720 In India, we just wrap them in a cloth with salt and everything,

00:47:58.980 and we put them there and plant a tree. 0.90

00:48:01.620 All right?

00:48:02.120 I got to ask you, is Mars out of play?

00:48:04.360 Like, in the way that you seek?

00:48:07.480 How can I ask this question properly?

00:48:09.140 Like, if I get buried on Mars, is Mars out of play?

00:48:13.000 Your body material, unless you want to be exported to another planet,

00:48:17.400 this material you picked up from this planet,

00:48:19.880 when your job is done, it's best to give it back

00:48:21.980 because it's just a loan. 1.00

00:48:23.860 Well, some girls…

00:48:24.820 Mother Earth gave you this body thinking that you will use it for your well-being 1.00

00:48:29.280 and put it back when your job is done.

00:48:31.180 You want to steal it and run away somewhere.

00:48:33.660 Well, some girl at Whole Foods once told me that I was just made of stardust.

00:48:36.860 She was very convincing of it. 0.99

00:48:38.340 She said, we're all just stardust.

00:48:40.160 All right.

00:48:46.040 Wait, I…

00:48:46.980 I guess what I'm getting at is this.

00:48:49.360 No, let's finish this.

00:48:51.180 Okay.

00:48:51.840 So, these are all different offerings in the heaven.

00:48:55.760 Sure. 1.00

00:48:56.020 But this thing is you must die first. 1.00

00:48:58.060 When you die, we put your body here no matter what. 0.99

00:49:00.580 In which form we put it, we put it somewhere.

00:49:02.820 Either in a sack or a box or whatever, we put it here.

00:49:06.020 So, you went to heaven and you don't have a body. 1.00

00:49:09.600 Now, what do you do with good food and virgins, I'm asking? 0.77

00:49:13.980 Oh, if you have no body, how could you take advantage of the good food and the virgins?

00:49:19.000 It's like spirit food.

00:49:20.120 well well here's why this is tricky because say say you die at a very young age seriously this

00:49:25.760 is where i get confused what goes to heaven your soul great is your soul is it is your right or

00:49:31.960 left the left soul on my shoe is it the soul unfortunate something unfortunate happens a

00:49:39.880 five-year-old dies does the five does the soul of the five-year-old go to heaven or hell as a five

00:49:45.500 As a five-year-old soul?

00:49:46.680 Does it go as the soul at the age you passed away?

00:49:48.920 There is no line between what you know and do not know.

00:49:52.820 That's why all this confusion.

00:49:55.440 Right now, you do not know the nature of your existence.

00:49:58.980 But you're talking about a soul.

00:50:00.380 Because somebody told you so.

00:50:02.060 I'm not questioning whether it's true or not.

00:50:04.160 All I'm saying is you do not know.

00:50:06.520 Hello?

00:50:06.920 Somebody may be, something may be true.

00:50:09.220 But you do not know.

00:50:10.500 That's the important thing.

00:50:11.800 Because unless it comes into your experience, it's not there, isn't it?

00:50:15.500 See, right now, if I close my eyes and sit here and doze off,

00:50:19.640 all these people don't exist

00:50:21.200 because they're not in my experience.

00:50:23.980 Isn't it so?

00:50:25.920 It's only what is in your experience which is true for you.

00:50:29.180 Rest you're just assuming.

00:50:31.160 If you concretize your assumptions, that's called belief.

00:50:35.700 Are you afraid of dying?

00:50:39.820 Do I look like that?

00:50:42.440 It looks like you're a person who loves life.

00:50:45.500 See, life is not my decision, life has happened to me, okay?

00:50:55.720 If we were able to cause life, that's different, we didn't cause it.

00:51:01.100 Something much bigger than us caused life for us.

00:51:04.380 Now, it's your business to see that it happens at the highest point.

00:51:10.260 Because you've been given an intelligence, you've been given a capability,

00:51:13.700 you must see it happens at the highest point.

00:51:15.500 When I say highest point, not in a social context, but within you.

00:51:20.160 You must be at your peak.

00:51:22.340 Otherwise, you're a wasted life.

00:51:25.160 Can I take a second?

00:51:27.400 You have concerns that you have to pay your Verizon's bill.

00:51:30.320 So you go with a long face on the street.

00:51:33.200 No, the thing is just this.

00:51:36.060 Right now, the only and only and only thing that you have is life.

00:51:40.280 Rest is all your assumption.

00:51:41.260 I think

00:51:42.640 you know

00:51:44.560 from religion to responsibility

00:51:46.940 from solace to solution

00:51:48.620 I hear in these

00:51:50.840 conversations and I'm really curious with the

00:51:52.800 privilege that we have right now in this gathering

00:51:54.480 and with Logan's influence and

00:51:56.760 the influence of many people that are watching this

00:51:58.860 they don't know where to begin

00:52:00.940 it seems like a lot

00:52:03.000 and it goes over their head

00:52:05.060 and so

00:52:05.860 it's very easy to

00:52:07.860 make it very clear where to begin

00:52:10.380 unless you hop in with in-between things like this.

00:52:17.600 Right now, standing in the grocery queue is not even on his mind, all right?

00:52:23.340 He's just throwing it because he thinks that is a philosophy which will counter everything.

00:52:28.560 I want to tell you, I become a strong activist when I'm just 12, 13

00:52:34.860 and at 14, 15, I'm thinking of joining armed struggle.

00:52:38.520 So it's not new to me, that kind of logic, that kind of rhetoric, as if it's a solution for everything.

00:52:45.860 Yes, intellectually, it looks like socialism, communism seems to be the ultimate solution.

00:52:52.320 Please try to enforce it and see what a mess it becomes.

00:52:58.200 Go and see in other parts of the world where it's become an absolute mess.

00:53:01.900 All right?

00:53:03.280 So this is not because I like something, you dislike something.

00:53:07.260 It's not about that.

00:53:08.520 ultimately when it comes to life what really works for maximum number of people that is the

00:53:14.600 important thing isn't it regardless of the success rate of communism or socialism or the grocery line

00:53:23.200 way of thinking right that i'm stuck in or have not thought my way out of uh it is the way of

00:53:29.100 things in this world right now in many places maybe not so much in other places um what is

00:53:34.700 the reason for that is it the teaching of the parents is it the education system is it mostly

00:53:39.680 religion who is the main uh perpetrator when it comes to set belief systems and as opposed to

00:53:48.320 giving us a starting point for creating new belief systems how do you create a desire for

00:53:55.680 the teachers of the next generation to look out think outside the box

00:54:01.100 Because, you see, for a long time, in the name of religion, in the name of philosophy,

00:54:11.440 in the name of ideologies of variety of kind, all sorts of things have been promised.

00:54:18.260 And all the promises are elsewhere, not here.

00:54:23.940 I'm saying, because you're all continuously talking about belief,

00:54:28.380 if you believe there is a better place

00:54:31.100 than where we are right now, up there,

00:54:34.400 why are you not gone, I'm asking?

00:54:38.120 Does that make sense to me?

00:54:39.540 If you genuinely believe there is up there

00:54:41.680 a better place than this,

00:54:42.800 you should be gone, isn't it? 1.00

00:54:44.560 Well, based on the religions

00:54:46.520 that people utilize to believe in this better place,

00:54:50.220 we don't get to choose the day.

00:54:51.560 You can choose the day.

00:54:53.920 Hold on one second.

00:54:55.280 You can choose the day.

00:54:56.300 It's very simple.

00:54:58.380 well i think it just speaks into what we were talking about earlier right if we really knew

00:55:04.380 that there was something outside after we died there was the heaven that we really knew

00:55:08.200 if we actually knew then yeah i would want to go right now yeah but because it's because it's a

00:55:14.700 belief uh that becomes a difficulty i'd like to hear george speak that's that's wrong uh so like

00:55:22.180 you said life was given to us so we're not allowed to take it for example i can't take my own life

00:55:27.520 and I can't take Mike's life.

00:55:29.000 So redeem the reward

00:55:29.920 that the Lord has given to me

00:55:31.180 at the end of my time

00:55:32.400 when He has chosen my time,

00:55:34.480 not me.

00:55:35.620 Because I haven't gone through

00:55:36.940 what He needs me to go through.

00:55:39.360 I agree with you.

00:55:40.880 You or anybody

00:55:41.960 has no right to take life.

00:55:43.620 Yours or somebody else's.

00:55:45.000 That is a given. 0.92

00:55:46.140 But I'm saying

00:55:47.840 why is it

00:55:50.480 that the idea

00:55:52.660 of a better place

00:55:53.780 than this has come

00:55:54.740 is because right now

00:55:56.040 people are suffering

00:55:56.920 within themselves.

00:55:59.180 All right?

00:56:00.040 Why are they suffering?

00:56:01.760 I want you to understand this.

00:56:04.220 Whether it's joy or suffering,

00:56:06.340 essentially both of them

00:56:07.660 are happening from within you.

00:56:08.960 Is that so?

00:56:09.960 Correct.

00:56:10.520 If it's happening from within you,

00:56:12.420 what happens from within you,

00:56:13.960 at least what happens from within you,

00:56:15.960 must happen your way.

00:56:17.340 Isn't it?

00:56:18.100 Very true.

00:56:19.020 If it happens your way,

00:56:20.620 would you be blissful or miserable?

00:56:22.980 I wake up every single day blissful.

00:56:24.640 Blissful, I would presume.

00:56:26.920 I'm not presumed. Tell me.

00:56:29.100 If you had a choice, would you make it pleasant or unpleasant for yourself?

00:56:32.740 Pleasant. I'd probably go pleasant.

00:56:34.240 Yes. If you were feeling very pleasant,

00:56:36.780 would you be always thinking of going to another place which is more pleasant?

00:56:40.680 No.

00:56:41.620 Right now, the entire human thing is set up on a better place somewhere else.

00:56:48.760 So before…

00:56:50.120 Because a lot of people…

00:56:50.780 If I say this, people are going to comment down below.

00:56:52.720 Okay, I'm sure you feel that your place is great.

00:56:54.660 but coming from a 2005 George

00:56:58.640 where I'm working at a 9 to 5 every single day

00:57:01.340 and I do have a boss to answer to

00:57:02.880 and I do have bills to pay

00:57:04.180 and I do have responsibilities

00:57:05.640 that I do not want to take part of

00:57:07.420 I still found those days just as joyful

00:57:10.020 as the situation I have now

00:57:11.640 because I invited the Lord into my life

00:57:15.200 so you're saying why don't you just go there now

00:57:18.040 I'm saying I'm not here

00:57:19.240 I'm not saying you should go there now

00:57:20.400 no but you're saying

00:57:21.340 no I'm not saying you're saying

00:57:22.380 But I'm saying if that was the idea of like,

00:57:25.860 okay, if there's a better place in heaven,

00:57:27.380 why don't I just go now?

00:57:29.500 My combat was why don't you just bring heaven here with you?

00:57:33.200 I think that's what he's saying.

00:57:35.380 Ironically, you're both on the same page.

00:57:36.640 That's what I'm saying.

00:57:37.740 But I am still looking forward to something greater,

00:57:40.680 but I'm also bringing it here.

00:57:42.440 So I feel like religion can do that.

00:57:44.500 And I feel like…

00:57:45.400 See, I've never said a word.

00:57:47.440 I don't know from where you're getting this.

00:57:49.180 I have never said a word.

00:57:50.520 this is it or that is it.

00:57:52.500 All I'm saying is

00:57:53.740 instead of simply seeing

00:57:56.560 what I do not know

00:57:57.900 as I do not know

00:57:58.880 you are making up things

00:58:01.040 in your mind.

00:58:02.120 Now is it true

00:58:03.100 that major religions

00:58:05.400 on the planet

00:58:06.020 unfortunately

00:58:06.880 are on a collision course

00:58:08.760 all the time?

00:58:10.340 Truth.

00:58:11.300 Why?

00:58:12.140 Because I believe one thing

00:58:13.260 you believe another thing.

00:58:14.520 After all it's just belief

00:58:15.640 why don't we change it?

00:58:17.360 The way it works.

00:58:19.280 Because belief means

00:58:20.180 you made it up.

00:58:22.680 I think just the respect of

00:58:25.480 you have your beliefs,

00:58:26.680 I have my beliefs,

00:58:27.920 we could still be on the same planet.

00:58:29.040 But it's not worked, right?

00:58:31.020 I mean, we're still growing.

00:58:32.060 Millions and millions,

00:58:32.660 hundreds of millions of people

00:58:33.820 have died in the last 500 years

00:58:35.800 because of my religion 0.51

00:58:38.000 versus your religion.

00:58:38.900 Is that a fact? 0.98

00:58:39.940 Fact.

00:58:40.400 True.

00:58:40.920 Yes.

00:58:41.440 And I want you to believe,

00:58:42.700 I want you to know this,

00:58:44.240 that all these people

00:58:45.700 genuinely believe

00:58:47.720 that they're doing the right thing

00:58:48.940 when they kill the other people.

00:58:50.180 they believed 100 percent right now that man who goes and explodes himself somewhere

00:58:55.460 he believes see anybody who's who stakes his life for something you can't question his integrity

00:59:02.460 isn't it i'm willing to throw my life for something i can question it depends what you're

00:59:07.340 doing it for yeah i'm doing it for my god who's different than your god do you see what he's

00:59:12.640 saying yeah but true but if your god interferes with my life then so that you so what so that

00:59:16.600 So what you just described is why there have been...

00:59:18.240 Exactly, that's what I'm saying.

00:59:19.420 I want you to understand, every religion starts off with this.

00:59:24.300 If you worship the false gods, you must...

00:59:27.240 What terrible things should happen to you?

00:59:29.520 So that has been the basis, unfortunately.

00:59:33.400 What you think is right, this is absolutism.

00:59:37.040 That you think, this is absolute.

00:59:39.540 Everything else is not okay.

00:59:41.140 I am saying

00:59:42.540 the thing is

00:59:44.760 the most fundamental thing is

00:59:46.980 if you are truthful,

00:59:47.920 if you are sincere about your life

00:59:49.360 what you know, you know.

00:59:52.240 What I do not know, I do not know.

00:59:54.780 If you really look at it

00:59:56.120 you hardly know anything about anything.

00:59:58.340 That's a fact.

00:59:59.660 And just when you are walking on the street

01:00:01.180 if you do not know

01:00:02.680 how you walk on the street

01:00:04.080 if you think you know

01:00:05.340 how you walk on the street

01:00:06.340 is there a difference?

01:00:07.780 You are a bulldozer

01:00:08.540 when you think you know everything.

01:00:11.140 When you don't know you are a humble, nice, wonderful guy, isn't it so?

01:00:15.400 Depending on what arena you work in,

01:00:18.520 being the humble, nice guy may not always be the winning tactic.

01:00:22.780 How do you bring that humility into the sales world,

01:00:26.200 into the stock world, or should those worlds cease to exist, Sadhguru?

01:00:30.580 You're talking to me like I'm living in some Himalayan cave

01:00:34.440 and I've just come out.

01:00:36.260 I want you to understand.

01:00:38.240 I'm running an organization with over 11 million volunteers

01:00:42.500 with a variety of activity across the world, all right?

01:00:46.440 With various active projects which are every day have to be done

01:00:49.700 and businesses that have to be run

01:00:51.800 and people on my hands all the time.

01:00:55.020 So I'm not coming from a cave where I have no responsibilities,

01:00:58.220 I have no nothing, I have nothing to manage.

01:01:00.180 I'm sitting here and talking la-la land to you.

01:01:02.960 Come on.

01:01:03.720 So I guess what you're saying is these exercises, these practices, this seeking is something that could be layered into the lives of just about anyone.

01:01:14.320 Please tell me this.

01:01:16.220 I'll do my best.

01:01:17.280 It doesn't matter what kind of job you're doing.

01:01:21.000 Even if you're a soldier fighting a war, would it help to be very balanced, sane, joyful?

01:01:29.260 and then you will do even if you have to kill.

01:01:32.760 You will only do it to the extent you have to.

01:01:34.680 Nothing more, nothing less.

01:01:36.420 Right now, people are taking pleasure in doing what they are doing, isn't it?

01:01:41.540 Something has to be done sometimes, unfortunately.

01:01:44.540 If the situations force you to do it,

01:01:46.500 but you will do it only to the extent it's necessary.

01:01:49.840 But if you are not in that state,

01:01:53.380 if there is a certain level of angst,

01:01:55.960 there is a certain level of anger and hatred in you,

01:01:58.660 you will do things beyond the limits of what should be done.

01:02:02.040 This has happened all over the world.

01:02:03.920 In the name of nationhood, in the name of religion,

01:02:06.960 in the name of race, in the name of caste, creed,

01:02:09.900 every kind of thing, in gender, every kind of thing.

01:02:13.380 People have done horrendous things. Why?

01:02:16.060 Because they believe this is it, that is it.

01:02:18.700 Absolutism.

01:02:19.920 If you see I do not know, you will walk gently.

01:02:24.820 Absolutism is the devil.

01:02:26.680 Can I say that accurately? 1.00

01:02:27.800 You're getting religious ones. 1.00

01:02:30.420 Absolutism no good. 0.87

01:02:31.580 The worst.

01:02:32.180 I have a question.

01:02:33.200 Never taken a sip of alcohol, right?

01:02:35.060 Huh?

01:02:35.600 You ever taken a sip of alcohol?

01:02:37.420 I don't need to because I'm always drunk.

01:02:39.500 Ever smoke weed?

01:02:41.480 I'm always drunk.

01:02:42.320 You've not seen my eyes yet.

01:02:43.620 Oh, oh, oh, oh.

01:02:45.120 I know that.

01:02:45.960 I know that.

01:02:46.440 So straight edge.

01:02:48.080 But I'm wondering as a fellow person who's curious about life to the highest degree,

01:02:54.660 or as you would say seeking how have you not had the desire to try

01:03:01.620 you are living in los angeles you think that is where life is no sir i don't i'm from ohio

01:03:08.180 okay why also i heard a lot of overdoses last two months yeah yeah so see you're living in a

01:03:17.960 in society, you think this is the only way to explore.

01:03:22.680 I came up in a place where I made sure I am not influenced by anything, either whatever

01:03:30.020 the religion around me, the family around me, the community around me, the politics

01:03:34.960 around me, I made sure none of those things influence me.

01:03:38.700 If nothing influences you, you see, I keep telling people, see, I am absolutely uneducated.

01:03:46.520 They think uneducation means not going to school or college.

01:03:49.720 No.

01:03:50.400 Uneducated means you did not pick up any ways of anybody's.

01:03:54.580 You're simply the way.

01:03:56.600 The life is.

01:03:58.240 Because your life, everything else is assumed.

01:04:01.400 If you have experienced the nature of life that you are,

01:04:06.340 and the source of life, which is also throbbing within you,

01:04:09.700 why would you try picking up leaves and weeds, huh?

01:04:14.040 Aren't you curious?

01:04:15.920 I know what you know through the weed.

01:04:19.380 I know a million X over that within myself.

01:04:23.020 So why will I be curious about something like that?

01:04:25.700 Do you play with the teddy bear every day today?

01:04:27.940 No.

01:04:28.500 Yes, he does.

01:04:29.120 Why are you not?

01:04:29.700 He 100% does.

01:04:31.520 Are you not curious how it feels the child loves it so much?

01:04:34.880 I went through the phase.

01:04:35.840 I experienced it and decided…

01:04:37.320 When you were a child, it happened.

01:04:38.720 Correct.

01:04:39.280 Right.

01:04:39.920 So I'm saying I grew up when I was four and a half years of age.

01:04:42.760 but even like

01:04:44.560 even like the nature

01:04:45.400 of psychedelics

01:04:46.280 and

01:04:46.560 the mind opening

01:04:48.440 experiences

01:04:48.980 some people have

01:04:49.620 that doesn't

01:04:49.980 right now

01:04:50.480 these 11 million

01:04:51.440 volunteers have gathered

01:04:52.620 and nearly a billion

01:04:53.500 people are

01:04:54.040 in one way

01:04:55.100 are the other

01:04:55.820 touch with us

01:04:56.640 see

01:04:57.900 I'm not selling

01:04:59.340 tickets to heaven

01:05:00.140 I'm not offering

01:05:02.080 miracles

01:05:04.000 pulling out

01:05:04.820 gold chains

01:05:05.520 from the sky

01:05:06.420 or something like that

01:05:07.380 no miracle

01:05:08.260 no tickets to heaven

01:05:09.980 no anything

01:05:10.920 why do you think

01:05:12.180 they're gathering

01:05:12.740 because i'm giving them dope you're selling drugs listen no no no don't stop it there

01:05:20.060 because it'll be dangerous i'm giving them dope that no drug dealer can give them

01:05:25.520 if they close their eyes they are gone i know you're big on semantics so what semantics

01:05:33.440 it is not semantic well you're saying dope and it's not actually dope it's not weed so what is

01:05:39.720 that you're that you're selling like what is your mission what's your well there is a lot of

01:05:44.300 scientific research which says there are millions of cannabis receptors in your brain

01:05:51.040 you think they're waiting for you to smoke weed i don't know but they are there that's a fact

01:05:59.080 so obviously the system must have something to provide that possibility within the system

01:06:05.420 it is not that you have to go and pick something somewhere it is here because this is the greatest

01:06:10.920 chemical factory if you knew how to manage this you wouldn't be in the back streets

01:06:15.120 you would make it happen here getting high off life huh getting high off life look i understand

01:06:21.320 i understand i'm just saying like i'm also a fellow curious person and i had the thought process that

01:06:28.860 I cannot die on this planet not knowing what a psychedelic does to my brain.

01:06:36.620 I've refused.

01:06:37.760 That's something I wanted to try before I died, and I did.

01:06:42.040 And I'm just wondering from a fellow person who is seeking how that doesn't titillate you in some way.

01:06:52.600 See, the thing is this right now.

01:06:54.860 uh we are all sitting in the same place breathing the same air probably we eat similar food

01:07:05.240 at this moment what is happening within me how i am i will not exchange this for anything in

01:07:12.220 the universe you give me the world i will not change it that's how big it is if that's happening

01:07:17.020 within you, you won't go pick weed.

01:07:19.580 That's all I'm saying.

01:07:21.620 So, okay, so I'm lacking.

01:07:24.660 So I'm curious because I'm lacking.

01:07:26.440 Because you don't have...

01:07:27.200 If weed or whatever else gave you a little experience,

01:07:30.440 you must understand, weed cannot experience.

01:07:35.200 It's you who experiences.

01:07:37.000 Weed might have stimulated some experience within you.

01:07:40.320 Whether it is stimulated from outside or inside

01:07:43.020 is the only question, right?

01:07:44.580 But if it is from outside, it always has a flip side of negativity.

01:07:49.660 Sure.

01:07:50.200 If it happens from within, when they…

01:07:52.260 Suppose there was…

01:07:53.140 See, people are drinking alcohol.

01:07:55.200 If there was no hangovers, if there was no liver burning up, whatever,

01:08:00.340 they would be drunk all the time.

01:08:01.820 If you could be too fully drunk and fully alert all the time, would you do it?

01:08:07.880 Everybody, I would advise them, drink alcohol.

01:08:10.180 Okay?

01:08:11.040 Right now, that's all I'm telling you.

01:08:12.740 So there is a way where you can be fully stoned and fully conscious at the same time.

01:08:17.640 I believe you.

01:08:19.840 You're also much wiser than everyone here.

01:08:21.940 You don't have to believe me.

01:08:23.360 You just have to check out my life, how I live.

01:08:25.760 But I'm saying surely in your early 20s, and I know like you grew up in the 60s.

01:08:31.280 So before you had the spiritual enlightenment, there wasn't a part of you that…

01:08:35.440 He said he aged at four.

01:08:37.700 So you're saying that us intoxicated, we're at a level of here, but you sober.

01:08:42.740 here and you're teaching people that

01:08:44.360 from your past conversation, you're saying that

01:08:46.780 if you wanted to try it once to tell your body

01:08:48.600 you could be here, that's fine. But if you're going

01:08:50.760 to consistently take it here, that's wrong.

01:08:52.660 You shouldn't be using a substance to get you to happiness.

01:08:55.240 The choice is this.

01:08:58.260 Suppose

01:08:58.660 let us say the

01:09:00.640 compound wall of this house

01:09:02.620 is 25 feet tall.

01:09:05.900 You've not seen

01:09:06.680 anything outside of this. You always lived here.

01:09:08.580 It was quite okay.

01:09:10.540 But one day you went on a trampoline

01:09:12.600 and jumped up and you saw there's a whole wide world out there.

01:09:18.140 But for a moment and you came down, you again want to leap?

01:09:22.800 This is addiction.

01:09:24.480 You want to leap, leap, leap and have a little glimpse, little glimpse.

01:09:28.120 So what we do is, we don't put you on a trampoline because we know you will fall back.

01:09:34.620 We teach you how to build a ladder.

01:09:37.580 Nothing romantic about it, nothing exciting about it, building a ladder.

01:09:41.540 You build a ladder,

01:09:42.900 climb across the wall,

01:09:44.000 the job is done.

01:09:45.620 What if I told you

01:09:48.180 that acid made there be no wall?

01:09:51.240 What if I told you that acid

01:09:52.380 knocked that wall down

01:09:53.880 into a pile of rubble

01:09:55.660 that you never had to climb a ladder over

01:09:57.860 ever again?

01:09:59.180 That's not true.

01:10:01.300 My question is,

01:10:02.580 why build the ladder

01:10:04.340 if you never experienced the trampoline?

01:10:07.160 See, the thing is,

01:10:08.060 that's what I said.

01:10:09.360 It is not because

01:10:11.140 somebody tasted a drug or somebody has got some teaching,

01:10:14.960 somebody believes in a scripture or in a religion that they are looking.

01:10:19.140 It is intrinsic to human intelligence to be wanting to be something more.

01:10:23.840 That something more, if it finds very physical expression, we call it sexuality.

01:10:28.980 If it finds emotional expression, we call it love.

01:10:31.680 If it finds, you know, mental expression, we call it, what, conquest or shopping or whatever.

01:10:38.720 However, if it finds conscious expression, we call it yoga.

01:10:42.680 This is not decided by you, this is the nature of life, it wants to be something more.

01:10:49.280 How you choose to…

01:10:50.560 If you know only money, you're thinking more money.

01:10:52.880 If you know only these kind of experiences, you're thinking of more experiences.

01:10:56.400 If you know love, you're thinking of more love.

01:10:58.620 If you know knowledge, you're thinking of more knowledge.

01:11:01.280 Whatever you know, you're trying to hit the peak with that, right?

01:11:06.720 how do you know you found the one

01:11:09.700 love

01:11:12.620 how do you know when you found the one

01:11:15.560 the right partner in life

01:11:17.200 oh

01:11:18.660 I want to laugh like that

01:11:23.440 one day

01:11:23.920 do you need a beard to laugh like that

01:11:26.780 you have to have one

01:11:28.000 you could probably start laughing like that

01:11:29.660 I'm close

01:11:30.200 anyways

01:11:30.940 this is not the United States

01:11:33.900 not 2020

01:11:34.920 2020, this is 1990, and this is India, where things don't happen like how it happens here.

01:11:45.160 But that's all.

01:11:46.340 I just looked at her, and in three days, we were married.

01:11:51.360 So when I went home, I said, because everybody thought I'll never marry, because that was

01:11:58.820 the contention, because I was living wild all the time.

01:12:01.720 I'm camping in the mountains here or there and I have no interest in such things.

01:12:05.820 One day I went and said, I'm marrying this girl.

01:12:09.240 What? Who is she?

01:12:10.980 I knew her pet name, you know, like what she's called. 0.93

01:12:14.900 I didn't know her full name.

01:12:16.780 Then they asked, what's the father's name?

01:12:18.900 I said, I don't know.

01:12:21.060 I said, what? You don't know father's name?

01:12:23.200 What's their caste?

01:12:24.420 I said, I don't know.

01:12:26.460 You don't know father's name, you don't know what the family is.

01:12:29.540 How will you marry this girl?

01:12:31.720 I said I intend to marry only the girl, not the father.

01:12:36.300 But did you know?

01:12:37.980 I didn't know.

01:12:39.080 You didn't know?

01:12:39.780 What?

01:12:40.520 Did you know she was the one?

01:12:42.220 Absolutely.

01:12:43.080 You knew?

01:12:45.120 But was there ever a time in the marriage where you were like,

01:12:47.440 man, I picked the wrong one. 0.96

01:12:48.540 Like, this girl really is acting up. 0.62

01:12:52.880 We don't do those things.

01:12:55.820 You're putting me in...

01:12:56.680 Because we are not...

01:12:59.960 See, I want you to understand this.

01:13:01.900 I know this culture has just built up now.

01:13:05.260 If you are looking how to extract life from somebody,

01:13:09.680 anybody, whatever kind of wonderful person you pick,

01:13:13.000 they will disappoint you.

01:13:16.400 Because you can't pick life, joy or pleasure from somebody else.

01:13:20.780 If you are seeing that your life is an expression of your joy

01:13:25.140 and you are seeing always how to do the best for the other person,

01:13:28.880 it never will happen to you

01:13:30.920 that oh did I pick the wrong one

01:13:32.940 did I do this did I do that

01:13:34.500 so tomorrow suddenly you think this is the wrong tree

01:13:37.020 and cut it off and put some other tree 1.00

01:13:39.080 it's stupid 1.00

01:13:39.880 we look I feel like we look for 1.00

01:13:43.380 in our culture and it's the saying like

01:13:45.060 find my other half right

01:13:46.780 which in a sense is saying that we're incomplete

01:13:49.220 by ourselves right and we're looking for

01:13:50.980 joy in another being and I think

01:13:53.320 that's really the key is just finding that

01:13:55.120 if we can have two holes come together

01:13:57.200 right and so I'm not

01:13:58.820 We're coming in union and relationship to not extract joy from one another,

01:14:03.420 but to share joy within one another.

01:14:05.100 How'd those guys become wise?

01:14:07.020 Because of you.

01:14:08.340 I've read quite a few of your books.

01:14:12.320 How are we on time?

01:14:14.160 I mean, I could probably sit here and ask questions all day.

01:14:17.160 Well, he's probably got places to go.

01:14:18.260 I need some answers.

01:14:19.300 Have you seen The Matrix?

01:14:22.020 Which pill would you take?

01:14:23.620 Which pill did you take?

01:14:25.200 Or did you not take a pill?

01:14:26.240 Have you seen The Matrix?

01:14:27.120 Let's start there.

01:14:27.960 The movie?

01:14:28.820 Well, I am the Matrix, huh?

01:14:30.660 You are the Matrix. 0.98

01:14:32.380 He is so dope.

01:14:33.660 So wait, he's the architect.

01:14:35.980 He's the architect.

01:14:36.740 Do you watch movies?

01:14:37.840 Can we humanize you as the take you away from this Gandalf-esque wizardry for a second

01:14:45.060 and humanize you?

01:14:46.440 Do you eat cereal?

01:14:47.120 What do you eat for breakfast?

01:14:48.000 Sadhguru, please tell me.

01:14:51.360 Well, I ride a motorcycle, you see.

01:14:53.220 That's cool.

01:14:53.820 Yeah.

01:14:54.940 What kind of motorcycle?

01:14:55.860 well i have a 1600 gt to bmw fantastic my dad has that motorcycle he loves it he loves it

01:15:04.120 it's he said he's he sold a pickup truck that i bought him to buy the motorcycle he didn't tell

01:15:11.520 me he sold the pickup truck and used the money to buy something else that i didn't give him

01:15:16.240 so i understand the love for the motorcycle what'd you have for breakfast this morning

01:15:19.380 uh today no i just had brunch in the morning not breakfast because i i normally get to eat

01:15:29.960 only one meal a day so what'd you what'd you have it's an indian food indian food what's

01:15:37.080 your favorite american movie favorite american movie maybe roman holiday roman holiday god

01:15:43.680 Dang it.

01:15:44.060 I don't know.

01:15:44.400 Me either.

01:15:45.040 I have no idea. 1.00

01:15:45.500 I suck, man. 1.00

01:15:45.920 With a word. 1.00

01:15:46.340 I nodded my head like I knew.

01:15:48.040 How do you stay cool with so much clothing on?

01:15:52.100 Because I'm cool.

01:15:54.760 Very cool.

01:15:55.440 Very cool.

01:15:56.940 What's your favorite spot you've been to in the United States?

01:16:01.360 I don't go by favorites.

01:16:03.460 But in the last few days, what I've ridden through, like the Arch National Park, the Bryce Canyon,

01:16:11.320 and the Zeon Valley.

01:16:14.920 Oh, these are most amazing places

01:16:17.360 as nature goes.

01:16:19.080 Utah.

01:16:20.400 Most incredible.

01:16:22.120 Have you ever had a near-death experience?

01:16:24.680 All the time.

01:16:25.680 How many?

01:16:26.820 Too many to recount.

01:16:28.900 What was the scare?

01:16:29.520 Always people,

01:16:31.180 people always said

01:16:32.760 if there's no danger,

01:16:34.880 Sadhguru cannot exist. 0.60

01:16:35.760 So always he's creating 0.96

01:16:37.160 dangerous situations for himself.

01:16:38.980 Me too.

01:16:39.540 I punched a window yesterday.

01:16:40.600 i got nine stitches in my arm because i found out a pokemon card was fake do you know about

01:16:46.400 i'm good i don't know what that is it's a good investment it's a good investment i think i think

01:16:51.960 we have time i think we have time for one more question uh just due to tiger's time again i can't

01:16:57.360 just like the privilege that we have here with this platform with with logan's audience um and

01:17:03.460 the millions and millions of followers and people that will watch this is there something that you

01:17:07.580 advice or something that you see in Logan that you think would be most beneficial that would

01:17:11.480 impact people in the most positive way? I know there are many things.

01:17:18.400 Well, compared to a lot of people, he is very alive. If he channelizes that well,

01:17:27.880 good possibilities. But in the mode that you guys have taken, I don't know whether you guys

01:17:34.100 will generalize now or much later in your lives, because life is a combination of two

01:17:42.420 things – a certain amount of time and certain amount of energy.

01:17:47.860 Time is rolling away.

01:17:49.860 You do something, you don't do something, you're happy, you're unhappy, tick, tick,

01:17:54.780 tick, tick, it's going away for all of us, it doesn't stop for any of us, we cannot

01:17:58.780 say today I didn't use it, let me roll it back, there's no such thing.

01:18:03.060 is just rolling away.

01:18:04.920 So the only thing that we can manage is our energy.

01:18:07.840 Our energies we can manage in such a way,

01:18:10.460 either it is, you know, makes your life very profound.

01:18:15.280 These are two aspects when it comes to life.

01:18:17.600 One thing is to make your experience of life very profound.

01:18:21.800 Another thing is your activity must be impactful.

01:18:25.000 I think you guys are overly focusing on your activity being impactful,

01:18:30.420 not invested on making your life profound.

01:18:35.000 Because right now you think acid will make you profound,

01:18:39.100 smoke will make you profound.

01:18:40.720 Well, it gives you a facade.

01:18:42.120 I didn't say that. I asked you.

01:18:45.740 Ask the question.

01:18:47.240 All right.

01:18:48.140 So I'm saying it doesn't make your life profound.

01:18:50.920 In fact, it makes you frivolous.

01:18:55.620 And it is also possible.

01:18:57.520 So I'm telling you, during my time, I'm saying when I was in university,

01:19:07.260 13 of my friends over a period of seven, eight years, 13 of my friends died.

01:19:13.660 Some to drugs, overdosing, some riding motorcycles, too wild, you know,

01:19:22.480 not knowing where the limit is, trying to ride like somebody else, all right?

01:19:28.680 You can ride to your limit.

01:19:30.840 You can't do what somebody does.

01:19:33.380 Somebody else may be doing something else.

01:19:36.140 You must ride to your limit.

01:19:37.880 You must know where is your limit and you stay on that edge

01:19:40.200 and see how to push that edge.

01:19:42.780 But you don't try to do what somebody else is doing right now.

01:19:46.380 So like this, 13 of my friends in seven, eight years time,

01:19:50.020 about four of them to drugs,

01:19:52.180 remaining nine of them to motorcycles.

01:19:54.760 They lost their lives.

01:19:56.000 They're all wonderful riders.

01:19:57.280 They rode with me for many years.

01:19:59.580 They're all…

01:20:00.420 It's not like in United States, okay?

01:20:02.820 This is like sitting on a microwave,

01:20:05.320 riding in United States.

01:20:06.980 That is nothing.

01:20:07.780 Just put it on a cruise and you sit. 0.92

01:20:09.960 It's not like that in India.

01:20:11.900 You're riding, an elephant can be on the road, all right?

01:20:15.240 And you need to be super alert and intuitive

01:20:17.940 to ride at a certain speed.

01:20:20.700 These are good guys, very good at what they're doing.

01:20:24.320 But somebody drinks and drives, you know, rides.

01:20:28.160 Somebody thinks he can smoke and then ride, smoke up and then ride,

01:20:32.340 like these kind of things.

01:20:33.420 Or somebody at any cost, he wants to go ahead of somebody, whatever.

01:20:38.480 Essentially, not calibrating your energies right.

01:20:45.240 Those who died, died.

01:20:47.520 Many others, they became accountants, they became lawyers, they became something else.

01:20:53.020 They're all my age now.

01:20:54.300 When I look at them, they're all successful people.

01:20:57.960 They got money, they got wife, they got kids, all this.

01:21:01.400 But no life in them.

01:21:03.660 So this guy has got some life.

01:21:05.800 Let's see how he handles and manages his energy because time will run anyway,

01:21:10.600 whether you like it or you don't like it.

01:21:12.620 Today gets over, tomorrow happens, tomorrow gets over.

01:21:15.320 It's happening to all of us.

01:21:17.100 So these are the only two ingredients you have.

01:21:20.680 Time and energy.

01:21:22.320 What you make out of your energy is the profoundness of your life

01:21:26.200 and also the impact of your work.

01:21:30.360 Please, all of you, make that happen for yourself.

01:21:33.460 First and foremost thing is life should become profound in your experience.

01:21:37.940 Then how you impact people, you don't have to worry.

01:21:40.960 Whichever way you do it, it will be for the best.

01:21:43.420 but if you live on the surface

01:21:45.460 and try to impact people

01:21:46.820 sometimes you will do good things

01:21:49.160 sometimes you will do

01:21:51.260 terrible things to people

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01:21:54.060 because most horrible things on this planet

01:21:56.460 are done with best of intentions

01:21:58.160 not with bad intention

01:22:00.380 Sadhguru, thank you for blessing us

01:22:03.580 with your wisdom today

01:22:04.520 can we get a round of applause for Sadhguru everybody

01:22:06.360 fantastic, seriously

01:22:10.860 seriously appreciate the time

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01:22:23.340 alright alright

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Impaulsive with Logan Paul - October 15, 2020

E226 Sadhguru Explains Life, Death, And Heaven

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