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00:02:12.300 You'll never believe this.

00:02:13.360 Dude, I match with people all the time on Riot, and they message me and go, oh my god, I'd love to shoot with you.

00:02:19.120 And I used to just not reply, and now I'll respond and be like, really?

00:02:24.280 Like, are you kidding me?

00:02:25.440 No, Sam!

00:02:26.120 I'm serious.

00:02:29.320 your jawline looks more defined i think this hat looks too big on my face

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00:03:05.280 watching viewing and subscribing sam damashek is back ladies and gentlemen please welcome

00:03:09.540 sam damashek to the podcast what's up what's up where do i look again wherever you want you can

00:03:14.440 look anywhere you want all right i'll just i'll just be like this yeah anywhere you want the

00:03:17.620 whole time if you want to make eye contact with the audience you got something to say you want

00:03:21.020 them to feel you okay uh look right into that camera right there got a roaming camera where

00:03:25.480 Caleb's manning it but Sam it's good to have you back you were a great guest the first time uh in

00:03:30.720 one of the few recurring guests we've had on the show I'd say less than five maybe wow thank you

00:03:37.420 yeah of course yeah I was I mean it was always top of mind because I feel like obviously we all

00:03:42.440 do well hopefully like every year you grow yep so much I think it was about a year ago right

00:03:47.180 I have no idea.

00:03:48.420 Something like that.

00:03:49.080 Something like that.

00:03:49.820 I could have been 12 or I could have been like a year ago.

00:03:51.860 I don't know.

00:03:52.520 But, yeah, I'm like, I'd love to do it again.

00:03:55.400 I'd love to be on again.

00:03:56.380 I'm like, I don't know if he does that.

00:03:57.740 I'll just hit him up.

00:03:59.180 You feel like you've had some tremendous growth, some tremendous personal growth.

00:04:03.420 I feel like I went from like, I mean, I'm still a boy.

00:04:07.200 I'm coming into manhood, but I feel like I've matured and grew up a lot.

00:04:10.800 How old are you again?

00:04:12.140 21.

00:04:12.940 Okay.

00:04:13.240 That's finally the age where

00:04:15.640 I'll agree with you

00:04:17.100 You've always been the young buck

00:04:18.820 In the circle right

00:04:20.760 I was always impressed about how youthful you were

00:04:22.640 And you wouldn't know anything about that

00:04:24.500 I was never 21

00:04:25.900 I was 16 once and then I turned 40

00:04:28.000 You just skipped it

00:04:29.600 May 6th you were here by the way

00:04:33.580 Wow

00:04:33.940 So over a year?

00:04:35.820 May 6th 2019 the day after Cinco de Mayo

00:04:38.360 Did you have any drinks on Cinco de Mayo 2019?

00:04:42.200 No of course not

00:04:43.080 Mom.

00:04:43.640 My family's here, by the way, guys.

00:04:45.140 Can we show the family?

00:04:46.340 They all look like Sam.

00:04:47.300 Can they say hi?

00:04:48.640 It's Sam Damoshek times four.

00:04:49.720 Get over here.

00:04:50.220 Get over here.

00:04:50.700 It's Sam, but Sam and Sam again.

00:04:52.120 These are all Sams, just different sizes.

00:04:54.060 Yeah.

00:04:54.500 This is great.

00:04:55.120 Different sizes.

00:04:55.780 You may have said this on the last show, forgive me, but you clearly were born somewhere in

00:05:00.420 Southern California, correct?

00:05:01.540 Yeah.

00:05:01.720 I can just tell.

00:05:03.080 Like, looking at your family, your brother looks like he went surfing already this morning

00:05:07.100 at some point, or hit the skate park.

00:05:09.740 Skateboarder?

00:05:10.780 Skateboarder?

00:05:11.200 No.

00:05:11.400 He does it all.

00:05:12.020 Mountain bikes, skates, surfs, skims.

00:05:15.760 Their hair is incredible.

00:05:17.340 He takes pictures, too.

00:05:19.260 Wow.

00:05:19.740 He's an entrepreneur as well.

00:05:21.540 You know, I heard about these kids growing up.

00:05:23.260 I seriously did.

00:05:24.000 I heard about you guys.

00:05:24.980 Because I'm from Ohio, right?

00:05:25.980 I didn't know y'all existed with the long blonde hair.

00:05:28.220 Surfer dudes.

00:05:28.660 I know the activities.

00:05:29.860 Yeah, you thought it was just on Nickelodeon, you know?

00:05:31.500 No, swear to God.

00:05:32.540 Yeah.

00:05:32.860 No, we're real.

00:05:33.660 What was it?

00:05:34.500 You want to touch it?

00:05:36.220 Yeah, so you have a pulse and everything.

00:05:37.820 That's incredible.

00:05:38.380 I know, I know.

00:05:38.880 What was the show Jamie Lynn Spears was on?

00:05:40.980 I don't know who that is.

00:05:42.020 what'd you just say sorry what'd you just say jamie lynn spears it's britney's sister oh right

00:05:46.480 my bad britney yeah that one nah you lying no i don't am i you're really young am i okay sure

00:05:54.500 how old are you again 25 all right i'm young too but to not know jamie lynn spears what was the

00:05:59.520 show she was on how zoey 101 come on what is that nothing nothing i feel like i don't know

00:06:05.000 because i'm on the other side i'm dating myself this is zoey 101 well at least you're dating

00:06:09.840 some pacific pacific pacific crest pacific coast pacific coast academy yeah yeah let's let's cut

00:06:18.900 the bullshit so you're friends with logan's axe what's that one i'm sick of this back and forth

00:06:23.540 about zoe 306 like shut the fuck up who cares i get your friend your best friends with josie

00:06:28.300 can say go how's that going you got you got to choose the side sam i'm not oh don't even

00:06:33.240 i'm gonna put him on blast i feel like i see him regularly and it's all are you guys friends

00:06:39.580 what's going on it's kind of like it's a back and forth so i'm indifferent until until i i i mean

00:06:46.280 hopefully i'll never have to not be indifferent i feel like that'd suck you know we're all adults

00:06:50.420 here yeah can you be bribed to be on one side like for example there's a big there's a big fight

00:06:55.520 coming up this is helping i'm sorry josie this is being here you know she don't have a podcast

00:06:59.820 don't tempt her she's she starts a podcast despite me goes number one on the itunes so i can never

00:07:06.760 say where she's adventurous she's adventurous she might she might go for it that'd be cool

00:07:11.220 don't don't challenge her sure sure sure yeah but you're not only friends with her you're friends

00:07:15.300 with um man you're just in you're in the zeit guys dude like i i scroll on your instagram

00:07:19.760 and it's it's one of the most impressive like portfolios i've seen in my days right okay here's

00:07:27.780 sophia richie here's ian dior who we just had on our podcast uh there's halsey and uh sydney

00:07:33.580 sweeney and the list goes on and you just shot the come on sam the cover for the alter exclusive

00:07:41.320 alternate cover for justin bieber and sean mendez's monster yeah might i might have just done

00:07:45.540 that that's something i did where where was this uh it was um video done by the way it was done

00:07:51.940 in health i think i i think i can say it was it was in this it was in this area uh but it was in

00:07:57.480 a park it was really cool they built like this giant box yeah how did that happen they you know

00:08:03.000 just production they like set up this giant box and i think it kind of had some inspiration from

00:08:06.560 like the truman show with the stairs and then oh okay they had these huge i'm like i nerd out about

00:08:12.340 lighting and all that stuff making something look like something it's not you know so they had like

00:08:15.960 these giant lights that made it look like moonlight and fog and i had it's perfect too

00:08:19.760 because it was in october so really like it just hit the the spooky but not too spooky vibe you

00:08:25.640 know it was it was digestible you into the spooks in general spooks guy a little spooky yeah yeah

00:08:32.400 Didn't I see you at a Halloween party?

00:08:34.360 You did.

00:08:35.000 I tried to be more invested in it this year.

00:08:37.420 You know, do you ever do that thing where you're like, oh, I'm going to get a funny

00:08:39.640 costume, I'm going to do this, and then you just never do it, and then you're like, you

00:08:42.660 just, you have no idea what to put on?

00:08:44.120 It's my worst nightmare.

00:08:45.540 Yeah.

00:08:45.860 So I tried, I tried to, like, I went on Amazon Prime just trying to find, like, dumb stuff

00:08:50.640 for, like, the weeks leading up to it, and I'm semi-proud.

00:08:53.820 Like, we got some good stuff.

00:08:55.240 The night, you were an Italian gangster.

00:08:57.880 Yeah.

00:08:58.340 Still owe me $1,500 fucking dollars.

00:09:00.240 I know.

00:09:00.740 Hey, it's Vinny Mancuso.

00:09:02.200 Yeah

00:09:02.520 That was on Halloween

00:09:04.480 Wait hold up Sam

00:09:05.480 What's up

00:09:06.540 Your fucking cap

00:09:07.920 Your cap is fucked right now

00:09:09.700 What do you mean

00:09:10.220 You had me bring you chains

00:09:12.000 Like you didn't even have a full costume

00:09:13.440 Okay okay but hold on hold on

00:09:14.920 The night before

00:09:16.220 The night before I was

00:09:17.620 I was a toilet

00:09:18.560 Like an inflatable toilet

00:09:20.200 It had legs coming

00:09:21.040 Oh that's cool

00:09:21.420 Yeah so look there's

00:09:22.540 You're in Los Angeles

00:09:23.620 There's like five Halloweens

00:09:24.760 This year it was less

00:09:25.840 It was only like five

00:09:26.680 I feel like sometimes it's October 2nd

00:09:28.520 And it's Halloween for like 20 days

00:09:30.380 Yeah

00:09:30.620 And it's exhausting

00:09:31.680 It's horrible

00:09:32.160 yeah you got to choose like five different outfits i'm not into i know people that

00:09:35.020 will change outfits per party yeah per night why why they're into it they're set that just

00:09:41.640 that sounds difficult yeah you're like me you're like me i'm a creative guy but i i'm like i just

00:09:46.120 get stumped it's like do i want to be funny do i want to look kind of cute am i trying to be cool

00:09:49.880 you mix all them so many variables i i so don't love looking cool on halloween i think funny's

00:09:56.480 the route it is always the route because i feel like i feel like for girls it's something where

00:10:02.060 everybody looks so hot where for guys i feel like it's better to put into the funny thing because

00:10:07.240 if you try to look cool and you're kind of at like a seven it's like oh dang you try to look

00:10:11.580 cool and you're just not that cool failed whereas if you just look like an idiot from the get-go

00:10:15.900 people like oh this guy's kind of sick i like this guy you know yeah i learned that lesson the hard

00:10:19.560 way i uh i dressed up as a chippendale oh a chippendale you know what that is yeah a dancer

00:10:25.420 Didn't hit?

00:10:26.060 I don't know.

00:10:27.640 Do we have a reference?

00:10:28.760 I'm trying to find a picture here.

00:10:30.980 I almost don't want to.

00:10:31.720 What did you say?

00:10:32.260 When?

00:10:33.280 It was in college when I was at OU.

00:10:35.860 You went to school?

00:10:37.400 What the fuck?

00:10:38.620 Yeah, he went to school.

00:10:39.680 He's a dropout.

00:10:40.320 I'm a school guy.

00:10:41.140 Yeah, but he's smart, though.

00:10:43.760 Clearly.

00:10:44.360 It was a tough decision.

00:10:45.320 It was a tough decision to drop out of school.

00:10:47.280 I think you made the right one.

00:10:48.960 I think so.

00:10:49.580 Something tells me that might have been the right choice.

00:10:51.680 Would you put your money on him in a fight against the best boxer on the planet?

00:10:55.280 yeah yeah you know i i was talking about this with them today i like wish i knew more about

00:11:02.180 that world obviously i know who mayweather is i know he's undefeated um but you're you're a beast

00:11:09.400 dude you're you're pretty you're pretty gnarly big boy yeah yeah i appreciate that sam i also i

00:11:14.580 also feel like i don't know you're you're one of the most determined people i've ever met like

00:11:18.500 you're one of those humans where it's like okay even if i fall flat on my ass like i'm gonna go

00:11:23.700 180 percent at like making sure that there wasn't one bit of me that didn't try as hard as i could

00:11:30.140 and you know i'd like to say in most cases it generally works out for you so yeah yeah i wish

00:11:36.900 i knew more about i wish i could have a more educated answer but oh you're you're right i

00:11:41.200 was talking to uh my comrades today it's tough it is hard to beat hard work you know like really

00:11:48.080 hard work granted obviously floyd's floyd yeah but in general i'm saying if you work your ass off

00:11:55.300 in any capacity yeah or at the capacity that i do and the people around me do it's tough it's

00:12:02.700 tough to fail like really yeah you know what i'm saying like actually actually lose no i i tell i

00:12:07.520 tell everybody that you've got to be i'd say in like the top three four hardest working people

00:12:13.720 That I can call

00:12:14.460 I can call friends

00:12:16.120 Who's

00:12:16.420 Come on

00:12:17.380 Don't put me on the spot

00:12:19.880 But I'm

00:12:20.500 I'm saying in fairness

00:12:21.820 I definitely

00:12:22.220 I gotta go find him

00:12:23.960 And beat the shit out of him

00:12:24.600 No

00:12:24.780 Come on top three

00:12:26.220 We can't live with that

00:12:27.160 We gotta just be number one

00:12:28.780 Every time

00:12:29.440 That's the shtick dude

00:12:30.540 Let's keep it fair

00:12:31.760 You know

00:12:32.140 Yeah yeah true

00:12:33.180 Should we get down to business

00:12:34.580 I don't know

00:12:35.160 I don't know what business is

00:12:36.360 We don't either

00:12:36.860 To be honest

00:12:37.360 It's a real shoot the shit

00:12:38.680 Kind of day

00:12:39.380 Yeah

00:12:39.860 I mean

00:12:40.420 Why do people want to shoot

00:12:41.940 With the Sam Damoshek

00:12:43.340 Like, why is it so attractive to shoot you?

00:12:45.440 Why does Justin Bieber want to shoot you?

00:12:46.700 Why does Sweeney Todd want to shoot with you?

00:12:49.360 Like, why does everybody want to shoot with Sammy D?

00:12:51.300 I think that reason differs, but I mean, I'd like to say it's tough because it's from my perspective.

00:12:58.180 And obviously, I try to interpret, like, you know, what's enticing about what I do?

00:13:04.040 You know what?

00:13:04.620 Clearly, there's something that makes people want to work with me.

00:13:07.700 And I think it's a range of different things.

00:13:09.840 I think when it comes down to women I like starting in middle school I was like friend zoned with

00:13:16.380 every girl at school like I always like you know they'd always talk to me about their problems like

00:13:20.760 I always I for some reason had I'd like to say like an inviting personality when it came to like

00:13:26.980 the opposite gender and I was always someone that like made it so people could take their guard down

00:13:31.720 and you feel comfortable and that kind of thing and then definitely being really really close with

00:13:36.400 my mom i mean my mom's my best friend in the whole world so i think like having that figure so close

00:13:42.880 to me my whole life just made you know it made my dynamic with women something where i you know it's

00:13:48.060 like i felt like i understood them more and then when it comes to shooting it's like you want to

00:13:52.480 know like how does someone want to be portrayed like you have to you have to really it's a lot

00:13:57.220 of i think photography is like so psychological and people don't understand that like a lot of

00:14:01.920 it is like you know what does this person want to feel like like you're it's such a trust that

00:14:06.520 someone's putting in you you're painting the picture of what they could potentially look like

00:14:09.920 to the rest of the world and you want to do the best job but you want to be taking into consideration

00:14:14.140 you know what's going on up here what what don't you know what maybe would they want to avoid or

00:14:18.620 like what is it that they want to feel like be like you know what's the most authentic but best

00:14:23.380 representation of themselves and I feel like with girls specifically I'd like to say I've had a good

00:14:29.500 way of kind of figuring that out and i think i've always built like a really comfortable environment

00:14:33.880 which you know i'm sure you've seen with lots of stuff going on in the internet like there's people

00:14:38.160 that haven't or they have the wrong motives um yeah i tell i have an online course and i tell

00:14:43.040 every photographer like if you you know if you don't have just if you're if how do i articulate

00:14:49.400 this like your intentions have to be 150 in the right place or else it won't work you can't leave

00:14:55.260 with your peepee you can't is that what you're saying you you can't because you can't but not

00:14:59.420 just that because it's like even if it's like fully like oh i want to make money or i want to

00:15:02.980 i want to use this as just solely as my plane ticket to go around the world or i want to be

00:15:06.560 able to i'm gonna learn how to shoot concerts so i can shoot a lot of concerts it's like

00:15:09.420 you know in in the more innocent ways you it's gonna work for a while but at the end of the day

00:15:14.680 if you want to be the best of the best it's you're it's gonna fall if you're really leading

00:15:18.700 with bad intentions like you're leading you know to get close with women and girls and this kind

00:15:22.880 of thing like you there's a lot of people that they they made it really far doing that but it

00:15:28.680 catches them and every time and in this past year it's it's caught a lot of guys in the past year

00:15:34.700 or two we've seen a lot of these stories of guys who have taken pictures either with half consent

00:15:40.320 no consent and utilized it late at a later time what's it been like to have you had to

00:15:46.080 not not you personally but have you had to at all change your approach or have you started to do

00:15:51.240 anything differently in light of these scandals that have involved photographers in in Hollywood

00:15:56.260 so a couple of different things um I mean I will say that you know regardless I'd like to say I've

00:16:02.020 I've always done the right thing and I've always led with integrity but it obviously like makes

00:16:06.980 you hyper conscious of it when like people you know for a long time it's like you didn't hear

00:16:11.200 about someone just getting taken out in the matter of three hours from like a 10 year long career

00:16:16.580 whereas now that's like very much a thing and i'm glad for it because clearly they were doing

00:16:21.300 some fucked up stuff and then second of all it's like it does make you hyper conscious of like it's

00:16:26.080 easy the ego is crazy you know like being a guy is crazy like there's you you can get kind of drunk

00:16:32.800 on your own success or motive or like what you're doing and get really wrapped up in like the end

00:16:38.160 of the comfortability it's like if you've been doing really really well at something for a long

00:16:41.640 time it's easy to forget the the little details that like you have to you have to always remember

00:16:46.980 like what made you you what made people like you like what you know what was that that drive or

00:16:52.420 that energy or what did you put off when you first started showing up to set just because you're this

00:16:56.780 big deal doesn't mean you can't you know dot your i's and cross your t's and that kind of thing

00:17:00.500 and i think that like you know it's a good it's a good reminder and it definitely makes you more

00:17:06.700 um conscious of like everything you know what i mean yeah did you uh did you see this uh you

00:17:13.620 remember this blacklist that came out this photography blacklist obviously this was big

00:17:17.160 in your space give us some context mike so basically there was a couple of instagram

00:17:21.520 accounts uh in 2018 2019 and and i think even this year that released uh blacklists to protect

00:17:28.560 models from from sexual assault and people with as you would call it like ill motives i think it

00:17:33.060 a shit model management model management was the first one to really break the blacklist did you

00:17:37.180 did you know any of these uh of the people named on this list yeah so there's a catch-22 with this

00:17:43.400 thing like it's it's i think the i think the intention was was right yep you know i think

00:17:50.060 the purpose was there because even with like girlfriends of mine that are new to the industry

00:17:54.540 you know guys too don't get me wrong but obviously like i feel like a lot of this has been you know

00:17:59.420 women being vulnerable to like just ugly men in this space um you know i mean i mean a lot of them

00:18:06.200 that are like new to this industry and they're about to pop off and they find themselves in

00:18:10.140 rooms of people i'm like yeah yeah like you might you know like can't say anything for certain but

00:18:14.580 like be careful with that guy be careful with this person that kind of thing so i think the

00:18:18.480 intention of the west was great the only problem was is that you know i i've been told and based

00:18:25.100 on like my own personal experience with certain people named it kind of seemed like there was a

00:18:29.160 lot of people thrown on and there wasn't enough validation as to like you know did this actually

00:18:34.000 happen yeah um and i think that happens with a lot of celebrities i mean how many people just get

00:18:38.620 like attacked on twitter because someone on tiktok or whatever just made something and it turns into

00:18:43.080 a thing but just becomes news yeah just made something up and it's trending and it's this

00:18:47.260 huge thing and it's like you know like people just they want to they want to cling on to something

00:18:51.920 they want you know and i think in this situation it's it's different i don't think it was necessarily

00:18:56.160 clinging on to oh yeah fuck that guy but it was very much like you know they build this list and

00:19:01.980 it's powerful it worked it shut down a lot of people completely devastated some major photographers

00:19:06.340 and and it also like to the to your point like this was a part of uh very much fell under the

00:19:12.260 umbrella of believe all women which which we you know are supporters which we should we should but

00:19:17.380 they but what they did do with this list that i thought i guess was helpful was they didn't mark

00:19:22.540 some on some with an asterisk that were mentioned more than three times so like once you start to

00:19:27.900 see this repetition and this system of mentioning these people yo this person tried to do this this

00:19:33.420 person tried to do this like how many times do you think is is is ironic or coincidental before

00:19:38.980 it turns into an actual so that's so that's the problem that's like i wish i wish there was a way

00:19:45.160 to like really you know make this something that was a hundred percent reliable i think in a lot

00:19:50.200 of ways it was but the issue was is that you know not not naming names but i did know people that

00:19:55.000 got put on and got an asterisk next to them and like word to word like knowing 95 of the people

00:20:01.260 they've worked with not one person has anything bad to say and then them showing me like you know

00:20:05.340 there was this thing of i think one photographer was posting like screenshots of him reaching out

00:20:09.340 to the account being like you know like they posted tagged every girl they've worked with

00:20:13.620 like somebody says something bad i mean reaching out to the account like hey like you got to take

00:20:17.240 my name off this list and then the account being like you know kind of like fuck you and then

00:20:21.600 putting in a like an asterisk next to her name as in like don't you know don't come after us

00:20:25.080 i mean that may be part of that speculation that's like that's what i was hearing there

00:20:29.660 was it was like a lot going on um i'd like to believe that that's you know that there's something

00:20:34.760 to it but i don't know it's a crazy it's a crazy world i think i think there's a lot of good

00:20:39.800 in it like i think it's something that should happen and i love this idea of you know people

00:20:45.700 in such a vulnerable intimate space having that sense of like okay like don't fuck with me like

00:20:50.820 people will come after you like i'm protected for sure but at the same time it's like it's

00:20:55.460 cancel culture is a power it's a power trip to a lot of people i mean it could be a power trip to

00:21:00.340 just some 12 year old sitting in their living room that goes and writes some shit and it just

00:21:04.960 it picks up and then all of a sudden there's like this completely fabricated story that takes

00:21:10.060 someone out they didn't do anything wrong and like i i can't imagine what that would feel like

00:21:14.380 horrible i'd be horrible it'd be horrible do you do you think that can't i've been seeing a lot of

00:21:20.160 conversation about cancel culture the past couple weeks do you think cancel culture is real because

00:21:24.120 there's a lot of people who have been canceled like fully canceled i mean yo this person is done

00:21:28.880 they're done that are just creating content right now making a shit ton of money and are very not

00:21:34.060 canceled like do you think cancel culture does it have a shelf life are people able is it that

00:21:38.280 people are coming back from it i i think it's dependent i think it's dependent on the crime

00:21:43.840 it's it's dependent depending on the crime but also the industry it's like there's no denying

00:21:47.880 that certain people like it's going to be much more sensitive um which is kind of like the way

00:21:53.640 your brand's built it's like take some comedians that say shit that's just like it's like if i

00:21:58.200 went online and said something that like half these comedians would say that people laugh at

00:22:02.380 people would be like you're you're a piece you're a piece of shit like you're done yeah but then

00:22:06.560 it's like a comedian's brand is is being this dry like open human being or like you take rappers

00:22:11.640 that like have some graphic stuff that's in their song and they get accused of different shit and

00:22:16.020 i've watched that blow over now like a bunch of times i'm like wait so it's it's just so wishy

00:22:21.020 washy yeah it's tough you know it is super circumstantial and man he's you're right some

00:22:27.280 people are highly insulated just because of the brand that they've built yeah i mean like the

00:22:31.860 milk boys for example oh yeah we talked about it before you i don't know if they can ever get

00:22:37.540 If you come out from the gate and you're like

00:22:39.880 Hey what's up motherfuckers I'm a scumbag

00:22:41.840 You know what I'm saying

00:22:42.500 That was very much my approach

00:22:43.920 I smoked crack for 10 years

00:22:45.680 Sold drugs to everybody

00:22:47.020 Crashed every car I ever bought

00:22:48.460 Assaulted people

00:22:49.840 What do you expect me to say

00:22:52.400 That's going to piss somebody off at this fucking point

00:22:54.340 You know what I'm saying

00:22:55.600 I'm scared

00:22:57.760 Now of course it's been 10 years

00:22:59.720 But it's fucked up

00:23:01.500 You still got it in you bro

00:23:03.360 I mean somebody fucks with my boy

00:23:05.720 They're already saying that now

00:23:08.160 I gotta go up against some of the money team dudes

00:23:10.520 The Floyd Mayweather sidekicks

00:23:12.080 And these dudes are big bro

00:23:14.140 Hold him back

00:23:14.600 You don't fuck with my boy bro

00:23:17.340 He'll tell you the only times he's seen me get hyped up

00:23:19.360 It's not when somebody attacks me

00:23:21.100 It's when somebody attacks him

00:23:21.980 I see that defense in your eyes

00:23:24.380 This is my little brother

00:23:26.140 You would not think twice

00:23:27.240 That's Papa Bear

00:23:28.480 I think anything

00:23:31.000 Sexually charged

00:23:33.540 In cancer culture

00:23:34.880 it's this yeah yeah i don't know you don't come back and rightfully so but i mean you shouldn't

00:23:39.920 and you shouldn't no right right right which is why i think when the blacklist came out i was like

00:23:44.180 oh you know being in the industry i've seen this stuff behind the scenes and it was

00:23:49.180 yeah like that's a i think like that's a crime like that's the thing and that's that's the other

00:23:53.320 part of it like if it's it felt i'm really big on accountability like for myself yeah for

00:23:59.420 perpetrators any anyone who's done a wrong right and uh some things are unforgivable unforgivable

00:24:07.740 like straight up i mean elephant elephant in the room you you had a cancel moment you got in trouble

00:24:13.200 hold on hold on you made there's no elephant here i know but you mean unless you're making a fat joke

00:24:18.380 come on mike but you look you look great thank you no but i think i deal with another co-host

00:24:24.200 it's very mean elephant whatever don't don't come at me with the you you were accountable

00:24:28.920 i think that was the best like the best thing dude it taught me a major life lesson i actually

00:24:33.300 wanted to i'm gonna spin this on you oh no podcast host wow guide conversation uh it taught me just

00:24:41.740 a lot about humility and accountability and responsibility and any other words that end in

00:24:47.400 hillbillies um and it taught it taught me a lot about myself and where i was at that point in my

00:24:53.620 life and that it's not a place that i wanted to be so i i used the reference there was a fork in

00:24:58.200 the road somewhere in my life i chose the wrong path this reset me i had to go back backtrack

00:25:02.880 unwire my mind what happened what went wrong and most importantly why and then i went down a path

00:25:09.640 that i'm really i'm digging this yeah this is pretty good so i was gonna ask you because

00:25:15.200 you've had so much success at a young age and i think i think it's it's just starting for you

00:25:20.540 and you you you speak from such a place of self-awareness a and then b humility how do you

00:25:29.360 stay humble ah it's a it's a tough question because i i constantly find myself in moments

00:25:40.160 where i feel like you know you're you're humble people people don't know half the shit that you've

00:25:46.420 got going on or whatever it is you know but then there's also moments where i'm like dude get over

00:25:50.860 yourself you know what i mean like i think i think part of it is having i think one huge factor

00:25:56.280 outside of yourself is who you have around you i think it's so critical coming to new success to

00:26:01.660 have people that like it's good to have people to hype you up but i think constantly having people

00:26:05.700 around you that bring you back to earth and be like yo like you're a guy like you're you're just

00:26:10.460 a 21 year old fucking dude you're like relax like it's you know you're sick don't get me wrong like

00:26:16.800 we think the world of you but hey just chill out a little bit yeah like that that's been really

00:26:21.920 helpful um but and role models you know being around people that are just you know so much more

00:26:29.380 successful than like i am or i could even fathom and watching the way they move like i i work a

00:26:35.980 lot with Shawn Mendes and he's he I mean I don't think I've ever I don't know if I've ever told him

00:26:41.000 this but he's he's so humble in this insane way where it's just the way he moves and the way he

00:26:47.160 treats people is just like I'm like wow like you know like you're you're as big as the world and

00:26:53.220 you just you you walk into a room and everything is so compassionate and sweet and he's patient

00:26:58.120 and he treats everyone as an equal and it's like that was like you know being around people like

00:27:02.120 that where it's like okay like you know do it i could do it exactly he could do it i definitely

00:27:06.820 should do it but i i think there's this thing where people confuse you know i think i i don't

00:27:12.540 know i have a theory that that it's not about being 100 humble i think there's a huge balance

00:27:17.100 i think that a certain amount of ego is good in a sense you know like i i think that it walks a

00:27:24.960 fine line between like self-worth and like confidence ego cockiness like all those words

00:27:30.420 are kind of you know like in a pool together um and they teeter but i i mean i think it's okay to

00:27:37.640 be like you know i'm good at what i do like or like you know have self-respect for yourself not

00:27:42.580 you know not allow yourself to be treated a certain way in certain situations or you know

00:27:47.120 or even just you know like it's okay to feel like the shit too like that that's good confidence it's

00:27:51.920 kind of like you know when you when you're running a race and like if you're in the front it's like a

00:27:56.400 slapping the ass like i'm gonna try to go that much faster and sometimes the best slap in the

00:28:01.280 ass is like yourself just being like dude you're doing good like like love yourself like this is

00:28:06.160 sick and i think like maintaining that like having that that confidence and whatever you want to call

00:28:12.940 it but you know balancing the like you know like be grounded like don't don't get ahead of yourself

00:28:19.080 don't you know that's really important and then it's just um one of my favorite expressions

00:28:24.180 recently is i'll look to the camera for this one uh i think jerry i think jerry lorenzo said this

00:28:30.400 from fear of god but he said talent puts you in rooms that only character can keep you in

00:28:35.180 and that is just so insanely important it's like you you can be so good at something but if you just

00:28:41.200 suck like it's you're fucked you know as a person yeah it's like if you just suck as a person and

00:28:47.740 if you if you let in you know ego and things consume you it's like that's that's gonna trickle

00:28:53.280 into the way like people feel around you and your energy and i feel like it's just i don't know it's

00:28:57.580 just all around it so you just got to keep reminding yourself just like look in the mirror

00:29:01.040 and be like all right you know like where do i need to work on things be overly analytical of

00:29:05.680 like the way people feel when they're with you and that kind of thing and you know i like i like

00:29:10.020 what you're saying though about confidence because especially in the field that you're in or that

00:29:15.040 logan's in you know content creation there's such a innate vulnerability that already pre-exists in

00:29:22.560 that space like you're putting something you're putting a piece of yourself out there every time

00:29:25.880 you release a project and i think that that vulnerability is almost balanced by a little

00:29:30.740 bit of ego or confidence it has to be i think if you're in i think if you're in a place like

00:29:35.300 um not not talking down on these very essential roles but like an accountant or somebody that

00:29:40.800 that works strictly on data you it's without that ego your work still stands for itself like you're

00:29:46.680 not putting you you know that what you're putting out there is going to be received well because

00:29:50.360 it's statistically correct and art art is so subjective where it's like you know some person

00:29:55.160 could look whether it be style music you know the way you you design your house like art has a lot

00:30:00.580 of different mediums but it's one of those things where somebody's not gonna like it somebody might

00:30:05.160 love it and it's also this thing of technically it could always be better in some way it's like

00:30:11.220 no matter what you put out if you if you're always striving there's always gonna be that feeling of

00:30:16.040 like oh like it could have been that much tighter it could have been that much better and but you

00:30:21.320 got to accept that like you gotta you gotta almost cherish it and like kind of celebrate that it can

00:30:26.940 be better and use that excitement to drive you because if you're just constantly like yeah like

00:30:31.860 here's this thing i made it sucks i hate it everyone's like no it's great i'm like yeah it

00:30:36.260 sucks like people it doesn't translate like you know at a certain point people aren't gonna be

00:30:42.460 like oh he's so humble like he hates his great work it's gonna be like they're gonna start to

00:30:47.000 be like man does it kind of suck like like you know you gotta you gotta love what you sell to

00:30:52.440 a certain point and it's all right to be like yeah you know um but being prideful of something

00:30:56.600 okay this could be better like i learned this but it's good it's good yeah it's not it'll never be

00:31:02.880 perfect but it's good you know it's easy when you have a great product too like bro like let's be

00:31:07.200 honest the stuff that you put out is phenomenal i mean it's it's it's art this is not photography

00:31:11.980 fill up a gas tank it's cool little shot right yeah and sam i'm sure this was was this like a

00:31:20.460 planned shoot or you guys just showed up at a gas station you and you said stand there uh well no

00:31:25.580 no it was it was planned to go to the gas station she wanted she wanted something that was like

00:31:30.560 batman-esque um she got it yeah we're gonna go to the gas station and shoot this photo but that

00:31:36.700 that was like the only plan was like all right something kind of like cinematic batman-esque

00:31:41.120 go to a bathroom did you actually need gas did you actually fill up the tank i actually think

00:31:46.160 she did good yeah i think she did that's authentic yeah we gotta keep it real and i can relate to

00:31:50.660 that you gotta keep it real you're the way you bat the balance you found this is is very impressive

00:31:55.200 it's very impressive thank you spinning it when you find someone that you're working with and

00:32:01.200 You work with a lot of celebrities who don't have that balance of humility and confidence.

00:32:08.160 Will you let them know?

00:32:10.040 Will you be vocal about it?

00:32:11.200 Will you swallow an opinion to continue a relationship?

00:32:17.640 Yeah.

00:32:18.280 Yeah.

00:32:18.800 Yeah, I would.

00:32:20.140 In certain cases.

00:32:21.160 I think if somebody, like, outwardly said something that was just like, dude, like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

00:32:28.380 yeah you know i'd i'd be like i i don't know if i'd fully like just call them out but i i would

00:32:34.340 i would put off the vibe like that's like you know be cool like it's not okay yeah um but it is it is

00:32:40.800 a tough thing where i'm sure we all find ourselves in positions where it's kind of like you know you

00:32:45.640 want to be 100 real um you know i try to never be fake but i would be a liar as would most people

00:32:52.640 if i said that i didn't you know here and there covet 100 of what i was feeling sometimes that's

00:32:58.360 to protect someone's feelings i think honesty is great but there is a way to do it and then yeah

00:33:03.280 it's like there's there are relationships and i've had relationships with people in the industry that

00:33:07.560 you know i don't necessarily see eye to eye with or like i don't love i love parts of them maybe i

00:33:12.500 love what they do but and it's tough and i might not be as adamant on working with them um but as

00:33:19.180 far as you know just get you know saying it saying it how it is uh it's just it's ironic it's

00:33:26.520 it's the juxtaposition of you being in an industry where your art in in most cases requires such

00:33:35.940 vulnerability and authenticity and a realness to it in an industry that is the exact opposite of

00:33:44.220 all those things for the most part yeah i mean damn show business in general can be so superficial

00:33:51.340 and full of full of ego i can't imagine how often you come across someone where you you're stunned

00:33:58.860 or you probably won't work with someone twice if they have a crazy ego right yeah because i it's

00:34:05.280 like there's got to be chemistry yeah you know it's like you want to you got to be able to like

00:34:08.820 vibe with someone especially right now where where i'm at it's like i only want to be putting out

00:34:13.480 stuff if I feel like it's the best thing I can put out and I can only put out the best thing I

00:34:17.960 can put out if there's a comfortability and like respect for each other and you know kind of a

00:34:21.580 camaraderie on the project whereas at one point it was like I feel like I could get past certain

00:34:26.120 things but yeah no I don't think I'd work twice with someone that just kind of sucked I will say

00:34:29.700 I I don't run into that too often I don't know if maybe I'm like if it's I don't know if it's

00:34:36.700 maybe because of the position I'm in but it's it's not too often that I work with someone that I feel

00:34:42.580 like just it's like a total asshole or like completely fool themselves right the only like

00:34:48.760 image i can paint is because it is because maybe who you are yeah right like people respect you

00:34:55.180 you're a respected artist and force uh here in hollywood but also how how does how does the how

00:35:03.400 do you treat strangers right that's like my gauge oh yeah i'll i'll i'll be around you know people

00:35:08.580 and and just watch how they interact with the random person who comes up and wants a photo

00:35:12.680 just wants to say hi uh tell them they appreciate their work i i think the most disgusting thing

00:35:18.180 someone can do is like talk down to somebody in the service industry like a waiter or something

00:35:22.980 like it infuriates or like an uber or like an uber drive every anytime i've seen that happen

00:35:28.220 i'm like that's actually when i'm like yo don't don't fucking talk like that like don't act like

00:35:32.540 that um like i said not too much but yeah that's it's definitely i've had to i've i've i check

00:35:39.120 people this is why why i why i ask like i'll actively say hey just so you know there's probably

00:35:44.480 a better way to address that or i noticed you didn't say please and thank you once throughout

00:35:49.640 the meal everything was a bit of a demand and not a polite request because it does matter like

00:35:56.040 language is important how you talk to people is important i can always tell sitting at this table

00:36:00.380 man i'm so excited to see your growth you're gonna be like a great dad you strike me yes

00:36:04.620 such a responsible like young man with such a good head on your shoulder and i appreciate

00:36:09.560 mom's right there yeah you guys responsible thanks guys and you know the first thing

00:36:14.860 i remember my dad taught me growing up beat it in my head please thank you firm handshake

00:36:22.340 that was it you know greg paul gp back to the basics just just uh a simplified version

00:36:30.260 of just uh respect and and and good virtue yeah it starts there you know honestly dude please and

00:36:37.140 thank you dude jake paul jake paul stuns people at dinner right we're talking about jake paul the

00:36:43.860 the notorious jake paul he got this image in uh in the headlines and in the media

00:36:49.320 but when you're at dinner with him he'll go may i please have the salmon yes thank you

00:36:55.460 you hit twice as much as it should be like you know he he he has this this image but

00:37:03.600 that that that language that politeness that respect goes a long way yeah i mean and that's

00:37:09.400 that's how it is for so many people too and so you don't really know until you feel feel someone's

00:37:13.980 energy or like you see you see them act in a way that's not directed towards you it's like to what

00:37:18.820 you said you know yeah i think to a certain level though like just intuition i find like the older

00:37:24.000 and older i get it's i feel like sometimes within a few minutes of being around somebody i just had

00:37:29.000 like this feeling that rarely even if they're doing nothing wrong they could in fact being

00:37:34.820 it's really nice and and something in me i'll be like i don't know why but i'm just gonna trust

00:37:40.600 this because it's not like i get this all the time and i feel really weird about whatever might

00:37:45.280 be going on here you know one of the other reasons i feel like you don't run into too many situations

00:37:50.120 uh where you're shooting with someone with a with an ego is because you know based on what you said

00:37:56.080 earlier and and what your mom has instilled in you your ability to make people feel comfortable

00:38:01.140 these people are your friends these people that you're looking at on your instagram feed right

00:38:04.200 here these are not clients these are not you know people that ask you for a photo these are

00:38:08.440 generally situations where you're hanging out with these people yeah yeah would you say that

00:38:13.520 that relationship building is the you know and the relationships you have with these people is

00:38:19.480 the number one reason you're able to to get these shots because of how comfortable yeah yeah it's

00:38:24.380 crucial i another thing like i always say too is that it's hard to do this percentage but let's

00:38:30.360 just for the sake of making it easy 50 you know call it 50 is is what you're creating and how

00:38:36.200 good you are at it i think the other 50 of it is is social skills what you know and by social skills

00:38:41.640 i mean networking making someone comfortable building those relationships like that whole

00:38:46.120 thing um plays into the the quote from jerry i mentioned earlier but yeah it's just it's critical

00:38:52.060 like it's so important i think building like a friendship and a relationship with everybody you

00:38:56.660 work with it's just it carries into like whatever else you do and it just makes you could feel it

00:39:01.600 you could see it in the work you know whether i can see it in these photos i mean these people

00:39:05.540 are clearly comfortable as as subjects for your art are you the are you to get to get technical

00:39:11.140 for a second because i'm sure there's some photographers watches are you a more of a

00:39:15.040 directory photographer are you are you shouting out commands telling people to pose or are you

00:39:19.800 more of a are you more of letting people feel themselves and and and make sure you capture the

00:39:24.080 shot properly it it varies but something i like to try to do i mean it's a little harder if you're

00:39:29.960 shooting in like a studio or something like that but something that i really strive for

00:39:33.300 is to create worlds that like people can live in you know it's like i like even like this photo of

00:39:40.000 this girl staring straight at the camera it's like i'd like to believe that something about it

00:39:43.820 feels like i just caught her glance like it's just real you know what i mean um it doesn't feel

00:39:48.680 posed there's that little element and what i try to do is i create these environments where it's

00:39:53.160 like you know i'm a fly on the wall like like pretend i'm not here if you look at me it's

00:39:58.100 you're you glance at me like i just got your attention and you know like kind of walk them

00:40:03.200 through a thought process or give them a situation where it's like all right maybe maybe you're having

00:40:06.600 a glass of wine and you're in you're in my backyard and you know what does it feel like

00:40:10.600 play some music make this environment that's got like a good vibe and then kind of talk and talk

00:40:15.180 to them and as I'm talking to them start start shooting and then move through that and then or

00:40:20.260 like give somebody a direction like not necessarily like raise your arm but like hey go go pick that

00:40:25.700 up and then as they're moving but wait like do it again and stop like right here you know like

00:40:31.900 kind of just see what kind of comes from someone naturally um that's like where my direction

00:40:37.080 normally stands but then there's certain instances where it's pretty it's pretty specific of like how

00:40:41.340 i feel like it needs to look um you know what are some of your favorite uh character traits of your

00:40:45.880 subjects favorite character yeah yeah like uh or just characteristics that they have they come

00:40:53.280 onto set right they're seasoned they have uh rhythm they have a fun vibe subject yeah um a couple

00:40:59.240 things i mean i get it when someone's quiet sometimes it's cool to like work with somebody

00:41:04.020 that's quiet and then they open up but obviously someone that like you can talk to and you start to

00:41:08.180 like riff with and like you know realistically a lot of times shooting with somebody you're opening

00:41:12.820 yourself up to each other so much so you might as well like open up from here too um someone that

00:41:18.780 like you know you could talk to you play music they're having a good time um but also you know

00:41:24.320 it's just you ever just see those people and just like the way they move something about it's like

00:41:28.560 cinematic it's just like yeah i know this type they pick they pick up a glass of water and they

00:41:34.180 make it look like the coolest shit you've seen all day how much but how much of that is and i

00:41:37.760 want to the way you structure is fascinating to me your process is fascinating because i'm looking

00:41:42.860 at i very much believe like in any other industry there's levels to this shit right and so for a lot

00:41:47.680 of photographers you get on site and they say like you said lift your arm like this lift your

00:41:52.000 arm up like this you know what i'm saying you you have already created a movie like you're you're

00:41:58.200 you're basically you're basically photographing a scene from a movie like in your mind this girl

00:42:03.900 you're at a coffee shop and and you know it's 5 a.m in new york city and you very much caught

00:42:08.940 her glance yeah do you think that your direction and your uh premeditated scripting on this kind

00:42:16.240 of stuff aids in their ability to to be that actor and be that subject yeah i think it's also

00:42:23.340 knowing like what what to cater to people it's like you can't put everybody in the same world

00:42:28.680 you know it's like there's people that are going to thrive in certain environments that others

00:42:32.380 might not so trying to figure out what that might be is pretty important um yeah and people are

00:42:37.940 funny just be fucking fucking funny don't be too sensitive like if i can like shoot the shits and

00:42:44.280 joke with someone while i'm working with them like we're gonna have a blast or if we like the

00:42:47.480 same artist especially like shooting in studio when it's like you're just jamming it's so fun

00:42:51.720 um what's your what's your advice to a upcoming photographer on how to uh like three do's three

00:42:58.300 don'ts for building rapport with a with a subject three do's three don't or one as many as you want

00:43:04.540 since you're the guest so many so many things to say let's see um first one is always put your

00:43:11.580 subject first and that could be as simple as like even if it's your photograph and you have the right

00:43:17.420 to post it if they're like don't post that do not fucking post it ever ever it's pretty

00:43:22.580 yeah yeah no but like believe it or not people are like hey that's no it's my picture do whatever

00:43:28.480 it's like dude you're you're out of your mind um i mean and maybe in the same one like ask

00:43:34.160 hey can i share this to the world where it lives forever you know like is that cool with you is

00:43:40.740 that ever not not to not to cut you off it seems so obvious is that but but i also but it seems

00:43:45.500 obvious to us because we're in that world but it's like dude there's a lot of people that don't think

00:43:49.640 twice about that i'm like bro i just strangely strangely and i hate to say it's just play

00:43:54.380 devil's advocate but i also can understand slightly the other side of it because i know

00:43:59.560 how much effort you put into these fucking folks like you've you drove to palm springs you brought

00:44:04.180 a five-person crew you brought lights you brought electricity you paid for the rent on the airbnb

00:44:08.580 you took 3,652 pictures to come home edit for six hours for the one photo that's going to go out to

00:44:14.840 the world and the subject says yo management says you can't use it yeah and you know that's that's

00:44:19.120 something I run into a lot where I'm gonna be biased in the sense that I might be more taste

00:44:23.260 driven where somebody might be more driven with how they look and I don't think I've ever had a

00:44:27.880 shoot where someone's like yeah none of this um but but but I've definitely had something where

00:44:35.860 I'm like holy fuck this this is the photo and they're like I don't really like that one and

00:44:40.240 I'm like and that's kind of where I'm like I would surrender like I would I would definitely if they I

00:44:45.260 could tell they're adamant I'm like I really don't like the way I feel in this any back and forth at

00:44:48.860 all will you push see yeah I'll come back and be like hey like I get it I just telling you like

00:44:54.300 I have so much confidence in this I think you look amazing like maybe let me know what you don't like

00:44:59.600 about it but I really think that this is a standout image and I think at that point it's like if you

00:45:03.640 articulate that and you're like I get it but like I really feel strongly that this suits both of us

00:45:08.360 well you know a lot of times i'll be like okay like i trust you and if someone doesn't then you

00:45:13.540 just have to surrender it's like and it's not even what you share too say you're shooting someone

00:45:18.020 on the beach and it's cold outside and you want them to go in the water and the water's freezing

00:45:22.540 and you can just they have that body language of oh i know you want this photo like please don't

00:45:26.940 make me do this like oh like i mean the cold scares people you know yes um they're just kind

00:45:32.880 to swallow it and being like yeah that's fine like just try to make sure everybody always leaves

00:45:38.400 in like really high spirits and yeah you know maybe the photos will be great and they're like

00:45:42.300 okay it was worth it but i think like coming in and coming out of it and having someone feel

00:45:46.180 better than they did when they got there and being like this polarizing human being that they want to

00:45:51.360 be around like that's just gonna carry you so far that's like the biggest do um i i got i got

00:45:58.120 absolutely fucking bamboozled because of a photographer who doesn't have the moral standards

00:46:06.200 that you have i'm like i don't even want to tell this story but i have to right it's impulsive

00:46:15.200 and i already brought it up but are we being impulsive enough by the way yeah this is actually

00:46:20.500 a really good podcast this is like every now and then we have a podcast that feels like a podcast

00:46:26.560 Yeah, and this feels like an actual podcast

00:46:29.740 Industry, tactical

00:46:31.920 When does the comedy skit start?

00:46:34.060 We can start talking about Dick soon if you want

00:46:35.380 This might lead into it

00:46:37.300 Sitting next to Logan, it's pretty top of mind

00:46:39.540 You got bamboozled

00:46:43.740 I got bamboozled

00:46:44.780 Bamboozle

00:46:46.240 We should get a bamboozle

00:46:48.040 Bamboozle

00:46:49.980 I say it all the time, it's fantastic

00:46:51.420 Tell me, I came out to Hollywood

00:46:53.820 and i i started doing all these photo shoots and i got uh bigger and bigger opportunities

00:47:00.180 the bigger that i got and i was never and i'm still not good at saying no like if you said hey

00:47:08.080 you know it's winter in california you mind hopping hopping in that ocean i'd say yes sam

00:47:12.720 whatever you need then i go home and i call my manager and be like this fucking asshole made me

00:47:17.460 get in the water like i'm that dude right i'm the dude the food's terrible at the restaurant

00:47:22.580 But how's your food?

00:47:24.240 This is so good.

00:47:25.360 Thank you for allowing us to be here at the moment.

00:47:28.160 And it's trash, right?

00:47:29.180 I'm just not good at putting my foot down.

00:47:31.980 I've gotten better.

00:47:32.700 It's really surprising.

00:47:34.160 Yeah, I don't know why.

00:47:36.360 I'm good now because of things like what I'm about to say.

00:47:39.660 All right.

00:47:40.320 Got an opportunity to...

00:47:43.460 He's really trying not to tell this story or show these pictures.

00:47:47.540 Because I'm seeing one right now.

00:47:49.220 It's just ridiculous, dude.

00:47:50.380 I wonder if I've seen him.

00:47:53.520 Oh, yeah, it's probably.

00:47:54.940 It's douche Paul.

00:47:56.080 It's douche Paul.

00:47:57.780 It's bad.

00:47:58.340 No, listen.

00:47:58.880 I feel like.

00:47:59.520 Go ahead.

00:48:00.240 I got this opportunity.

00:48:01.660 Logan Paul, we want you in Paper Magazine.

00:48:05.500 I've seen him.

00:48:06.940 You know what I'm going to say?

00:48:08.140 Yeah.

00:48:09.160 We got this opportunity for you to have a feature in Paper Magazine.

00:48:13.500 I said, Paper Magazine?

00:48:14.720 Wasn't Kim Kardashian just on that?

00:48:16.560 Big deal.

00:48:17.600 She broke the internet.

00:48:18.920 That was what it was called.

00:48:19.740 Break the internet.

00:48:20.380 uh so i said yeah absolutely i'll come on do this paper magazine shoot and uh it they told me they

00:48:29.040 wanted to do a shirtless photo shoot and they assigned me with a photographer and i was very

00:48:34.740 excited because i was really into physique at that point and looking good and having that six

00:48:40.060 pack and like i just got the hollywood what happened you know well yeah so i go and i take

00:48:45.540 some photos um i took this one i'm gonna put it in the corner because i'm hiding a photo

00:48:50.280 photograph but i took this one right like my like my physique was was good but you look great

00:48:55.380 oh i cut a lot of weight i'd buy him dinner i cut a lot of weight and then and then we took

00:49:01.440 this one which i also love this was the this was the one uh oh no jesus what happened this was the

00:49:07.760 one that graced the uh the cup how about just pull the photo over and fold the actual photo

00:49:13.060 fine i'm going all right all right look is there a ghost somebody does not want this this

00:49:20.020 it's a setup he doesn't he doesn't want to show us wait wait but you see it right for a second

00:49:26.120 and then watch oh it's okay so look i did this splits photo and it was pretty good

00:49:31.300 and uh i mean when i said pretty good i mean just not good at all but like interesting it's

00:49:37.780 impressive yeah good hand soap selection too and avocado yeah wow that's great so cracked an egg

00:49:44.680 and then the photographers after

00:49:47.500 were like

00:49:48.280 yo do you mind like

00:49:49.280 taking some more pictures

00:49:50.660 oh that's you

00:49:52.460 like the whole set leaves

00:49:54.040 all the PAs

00:49:54.960 like everybody leaves

00:49:55.700 and he's like

00:49:56.000 you mind taking a few extras

00:49:57.380 for my own

00:49:58.200 like with my boyfriend

00:49:59.340 like he's a

00:50:00.120 he's a model right

00:50:01.260 he's on Instagram

00:50:01.880 and I was like

00:50:02.840 no problem

00:50:03.640 right like

00:50:05.280 obviously these aren't

00:50:06.280 for the magazine

00:50:07.020 of course that'd be

00:50:07.960 fucking crazy right

00:50:09.120 cause we finished our shoot

00:50:10.080 and I'm telling you right now

00:50:11.000 these aren't for the magazine

00:50:12.200 the juices are flowing

00:50:13.480 exactly

00:50:13.980 and I was happy with this

00:50:15.120 and I had cut weight

00:50:15.840 so I was eating food

00:50:16.640 I was stoked

00:50:17.400 and so dude

00:50:18.080 we get on these skateboards

00:50:19.500 right

00:50:19.780 oh my

00:50:20.780 and then we're just

00:50:21.640 skateboarding dude

00:50:22.760 down the street

00:50:23.760 and he's snapping

00:50:24.420 these photographs

00:50:25.040 and I'm like

00:50:25.520 what is happening

00:50:26.440 how did I get

00:50:27.120 in this situation

00:50:27.860 this is the worst

00:50:29.780 moment of my life

00:50:31.060 and then

00:50:32.060 and then

00:50:32.460 and then

00:50:32.920 he took this one too

00:50:34.480 and I'm just

00:50:36.940 I'm

00:50:37.360 it's just happening

00:50:38.540 and I'm

00:50:38.920 no no

00:50:40.000 it is that bad

00:50:41.060 because they published

00:50:42.280 these in paper magazines

00:50:43.600 These are the ones they published

00:50:46.760 Bro

00:50:47.940 I see I have the print

00:50:49.880 And I call my manager

00:50:51.180 I go what the fuck

00:50:53.060 Went wrong here

00:50:54.320 Or was it communicated

00:50:54.940 Wait you didn't get to approve

00:50:56.060 No

00:50:57.080 No

00:50:58.320 They sent these

00:50:59.800 As the images

00:51:00.620 In paper

00:51:01.840 Well I'm really a saint

00:51:03.560 And this one too

00:51:04.460 This one too

00:51:06.140 Oh my god stop

00:51:07.100 Dude

00:51:07.820 Dude

00:51:09.240 Oh fuck

00:51:10.020 What happened

00:51:11.420 Why is this guy

00:51:13.220 Wrapped around my body

00:51:14.600 Who is he?

00:51:17.480 He was the photographer

00:51:18.720 Oh stop

00:51:20.700 Okay let me ask you

00:51:23.100 Is that kind of

00:51:24.000 Yeah I'd say that definitely goes

00:51:27.200 Against the grain of what

00:51:28.340 You should and shouldn't do

00:51:30.300 It's not my brain

00:51:31.120 What went wrong with that photo with the dual peace signs right there

00:51:34.700 This one

00:51:35.340 You look like Owen Wilson

00:51:39.720 You're talking to Mickey Bowen

00:51:41.200 That's the Logan Paul I met

00:51:42.900 no that's mickey bowie i don't want to talk about it but look man i remember this being

00:51:48.220 one of the worst experiences i had in hollywood i felt completely betrayed it was already weird

00:51:54.420 for me to be posing like shirtless and like really tight underwear and i found out that

00:51:59.120 none of this was like sanctioned by paper magazine it was like a freelance guy uh who had like a

00:52:05.200 loose relationship with him and we had a very long back and forth about how what he did was so

00:52:10.840 fucking unprofessional and wrong and apparently he had done it to some other people as well

00:52:15.400 that's that's what the story yeah no i'm glad i'm glad it ends here crazy so so people

00:52:22.800 flexing relationships as like a credibility credibility point you know what i'm saying

00:52:28.440 like oh i shoot for paper do you see a lot of that does that is that does that happening a lot

00:52:32.920 in la yeah you know what i think the one that bugs me more is like someone posting a photo that

00:52:38.380 they like it'd be like logan back in the days of like the club being open like logan hanging out

00:52:44.300 there and somebody like some kid would you know maybe like a little film camera like snapping a

00:52:47.620 picture of him and then posting it'd be like like new work with at logan paul shot by me which it's

00:52:53.440 always my homie just so you know my boy me with my homie do you now let me ask you which i just so

00:52:59.820 i don't get in trouble i definitely at some point in my younger day had i'm sure i've done that

00:53:05.140 before because i got excited to ask you but i'm telling you don't don't do it don't because if i

00:53:10.800 could go back and not have done it i wouldn't have it didn't necessarily it's one of those things

00:53:15.280 where you don't really know how it bites you in the ass until you grow up a little bit and you're

00:53:18.900 like yeah that person probably saw you know it's kind of oh they won't even see that i posted it

00:53:23.740 like no one won't they probably did and they're probably like fuck that kid like i'm not his

00:53:28.560 homie nor did i want my photo taken nor did i want this post yeah yeah and it's gonna take a

00:53:33.300 while to outlive that you that you did the whole like hey let me just let me just take your your

00:53:39.420 image and then you know so that's one of your don'ts don't don't be that guy don't just just

00:53:45.320 wait till you authentic like i think there should be rules it's like someone's full attention you

00:53:51.420 know maybe you guys talk and it's something where it's like you know each other's name there was a

00:53:55.520 communication and even if it was a quick instance it's like there was there was a moment you know

00:54:00.220 like there was engagement, but if that's not the case, then just sit back on it. Cause your time,

00:54:06.560 your time will come. Like, don't, don't rush things. You can only meet somebody.

00:54:10.320 You only meet somebody for the first time, one time. Nice. And it's true. And I'm now I'm looking

00:54:15.440 over here. Cause it's really important. Like, you know, it's good to seize the moment, but don't get

00:54:20.580 ahead of yourself. Really. It's, it's tough to give advice on this because it's kind of just one

00:54:24.360 of those things I can't really articulate like the, the formula for it, but just try to find it

00:54:29.780 in yourself to know like is this is this the best time you know it's so like is this the right time

00:54:35.520 or is another time gonna come but it's also an important balance too because there are a lot of

00:54:40.080 people who will sit and wait forever you know what i'm saying and so like i think you're you're

00:54:43.820 1000 do you have a do you have a piece of feedback for the kid who's sitting home watching this right

00:54:49.500 now he's got 16.5 000 on instagram he takes really good photos he's got a great camera he really

00:54:55.400 wants to shoot logan paul or he really wants to shoot addison ray do you do is there anything you

00:55:01.580 can think of that could be the way for that to happen yeah um first thing i'll say is reach out

00:55:08.880 like a lot of the people that i now work with at one point i emailed their agent their manager

00:55:14.280 i was gonna say don't reach out to the subject don't reach out to the subject i was gonna say

00:55:18.860 really every time it's been effective with me uh it's been through a friend right uh they reach

00:55:25.300 out to danny jeff agent whatever it is with i'm sure you're gonna get there uh the resume the

00:55:31.500 portfolio something let's see let's see your work let's see what you got i i do i don't i personally

00:55:36.260 don't think there's anything wrong with like sending somebody a simple dm like hey we'd love

00:55:40.600 to work with you because for a lot of photographers it's like you can just click their instagram and

00:55:44.920 you have a pretty okay this guy's this guy's legit um i think it's a it's it's about i would

00:55:50.020 i would never i'd never see it that's the problem you know there's nothing wrong with it it's a

00:55:54.040 visibility thing it's just but the crazy thing is like i've i've i've had people see it okay

00:55:58.860 okay there's no fucking way but it's you but it's you sam you got a blue check i guess yeah

00:56:03.020 okay well then i'm gonna just say reach out in a professional way and don't do both yeah do

00:56:08.840 don't say too much it's where everybody fucks up it's like i don't i don't have that huge of a

00:56:13.980 following but like if you i have enough dms and if you send me a dm that's this long about wanting

00:56:19.120 to like you know intern for me or shoot me it i'm not i'm literally gonna see to not read it

00:56:23.880 and maybe sometimes something will catch my glance but if you can say a lot in the shortest way

00:56:29.400 possible just be concise hey what's up my name is such and such this is where i'm at you know

00:56:34.800 hit a few key points right to the point like in an email for me even when i still reach out to

00:56:39.840 people now you know name where i'm at a few of the key points um love to work with you have a few

00:56:45.780 ideas take a look at my last person you reached out to that wasn't either in your role that

00:56:50.180 rolodex or in the network um i reach out to people all the time um i try to remind myself too

00:56:55.880 because that's how i met so many people when i first started and it's like don't stop chasing

00:57:00.040 like to a certain don't chase everybody like be have manage exclusivity but like well yeah i mean

00:57:06.600 who um i'm sure they watch this podcast we could probably get you you're supposed to shoot with

00:57:11.580 lana we would we had talked about it you were supposed to shoot with her and that still hasn't

00:57:15.320 gotten done yet definitely definitely got to do that i'm as of recently i emailed i emailed like

00:57:19.920 a few agencies which is different um heard back from one of them like talking to them but then

00:57:24.040 you know also definitely dm'd bella hadid and kendall jenner and a few of the they watch the

00:57:30.760 show a few of the models i haven't i haven't worked with aren't you friends with their friends

00:57:35.800 yeah I am but it's like I I think things happen naturally like I used to I used to also play that

00:57:41.500 game too where it's like I'm gonna work with a bunch of her friends and I'm gonna kind of use

00:57:45.540 as a leverage point and be like hey can you introduce me I think that's that once again

00:57:50.000 it's like I I always preach that social climbing it it teeters where it's like there's nothing

00:57:55.540 wrong with providing something to somebody and you them providing you something and that being

00:58:00.480 the relationship or like asking favors from friends with the, you know, the thing of I'm,

00:58:05.560 I'm going to scratch your back and you scratch mine. That's not social crime. So here and there.

00:58:09.260 Yeah. But I've just found when it comes to like a certain level of person, you know, I've met

00:58:14.680 everybody so far that I've wanted to work with in time. There's clearly still people I haven't,

00:58:19.180 but they're there and I've been in the same room with them. And I know, you know, I just like to

00:58:23.620 believe that it kind of you know if it happens organically it'll be the best and you just have

00:58:30.640 to trust that it will happen maybe you take little steps to get yourself closer like working with

00:58:35.660 people they know or kind of being like nudging someone like hey like if you ever think of a good

00:58:39.520 opportunity where maybe I could help them out with something like whatever it is um that's fine but

00:58:44.560 just I think you get to a certain like I'm at a level now where I feel like if I stay on the pace

00:58:48.580 i'm at i'm gonna shoot everybody and i with a camera and i just if i stay on the current pace

00:58:54.640 i'm on i'm gonna shoot everybody i swear to god it'll be alacious no and you know i when you're

00:59:00.400 when you're i think when you're newer in the industry it's a little different but i think

00:59:03.400 once you get to a certain level it's things are kind of bound to happen organically if they're

00:59:07.580 meant to happen and the industry just gets smaller the bigger you get so true you know where you just

00:59:12.160 start to know everybody and if you don't know them they know you you know like and if you yeah

00:59:16.700 Or vice versa

00:59:17.360 Everyone's had sex

00:59:18.240 With everyone

00:59:18.660 Yeah

00:59:19.160 You see a lot of that stuff too

00:59:20.480 You're in the circle

00:59:21.540 Yeah

00:59:21.900 What's

00:59:22.240 LA's

00:59:23.300 LA's

00:59:23.780 Incestual

00:59:25.080 That's the word right

00:59:26.480 Is that the word

00:59:27.420 I don't know

00:59:28.560 Is it

00:59:29.400 I think that's what you call it

00:59:30.720 It's a sick fucking place

00:59:31.860 We live in

00:59:32.320 It's disgusting

00:59:32.760 It really is

00:59:34.120 Well I

00:59:35.240 You know what sucks

00:59:36.380 Is like

00:59:36.860 LA's an amazing city

00:59:39.380 It's like

00:59:40.120 I think it's a beautiful place

00:59:41.560 A land of opportunity

00:59:42.700 Like so many different

00:59:43.620 Beaches

00:59:44.040 The beach

00:59:44.880 The mountains

00:59:45.720 Right

00:59:46.100 it's it's dude la's fucking awesome amazing yeah but it has got to be the worst place in the world

00:59:52.560 ever to fall in love oh my god or or just kill me so kill me now shoot everyone stab me in my eyes

01:00:00.100 i i go to i go to great lengths i hike i hike mountains i swim through rivers i fight off

01:00:06.000 sharks to find somebody that isn't in the the circle that's really big but somehow just like

01:00:12.340 eight like ten people yeah you know it's like there's there's a lot of them but it's it's you're

01:00:16.480 in high school i feel like i'm like going to a different gym like oh it's gym period like what's

01:00:19.900 up buddy like you know like everyone knows each other i hate it and you've all probably had sex

01:00:24.400 whoops fuck yeah it gets wild at this point it's like just introduce me to anyone who has it and

01:00:37.680 We can start

01:00:38.220 One girl

01:00:40.360 You have a resume

01:00:41.080 Hey I don't want to

01:00:41.840 Make things weird

01:00:42.560 But just on the low

01:00:44.000 Can we just check

01:00:44.860 A few boxes

01:00:45.560 Low key

01:00:47.220 Low key

01:00:47.760 I'm like

01:00:48.120 I may lead with that

01:00:50.080 Before I'm in too deep

01:00:52.180 You want to say something

01:00:55.300 I'm sure

01:00:55.720 What do you want to do

01:00:56.460 As you can tell guys

01:00:58.740 We're reaching some

01:00:59.480 Treacherous waters here

01:01:01.100 On the show

01:01:02.140 There's no treacherous

01:01:03.100 I'm getting a rush

01:01:03.720 I was

01:01:04.200 Oh this is going to be fun

01:01:05.080 The first time I came

01:01:06.260 He's eating up

01:01:06.880 The first time I came on the show, I remember, like, I had never spoken on something, you know, where it was going to be viewed by a lot of people.

01:01:14.160 And I was, like, shitting myself, like, oh, my God, what if I say something that, like, pisses someone off?

01:01:19.520 You know, where I'm thinking that, but I feel like now I'm a little less worried about it.

01:01:24.620 Well, that's what we do.

01:01:25.900 That's what we do here, too.

01:01:26.840 Don't get too crazy, but, you know, we can be impulsive.

01:01:30.480 Oh, nice.

01:01:31.460 No, you're doing great.

01:01:32.580 I'm glad you echoed that, Sam, because I've been feeling that.

01:01:35.580 Yeah.

01:01:35.860 and i don't even know i'm convinced i'm gonna be single for the rest of my life i'm 25 every day

01:01:43.520 goes by i'm like well when am i gonna just go live alone at my ranch with my dad and the four cats

01:01:49.920 yeah dude i people people get so mad at me because i'm 21 and like although my career is at a big

01:01:57.460 point it's realistically just starting like i i've only lived in like my first home for like a year

01:02:02.060 Like all this shit

01:02:02.800 And constantly I'm like

01:02:03.740 You know man

01:02:04.240 Like I just wanna buy a place

01:02:05.980 And just like get domestic

01:02:07.100 Settle down

01:02:07.900 Yeah you know

01:02:08.580 I'm ready to settle down

01:02:09.500 You're not gonna

01:02:09.980 Wanna hear this

01:02:10.760 Your life's over dude

01:02:11.660 And everyone would just

01:02:12.540 Smack the shit out of me

01:02:13.480 Like dude shut up

01:02:14.740 Nope

01:02:15.200 I'm ready for it

01:02:18.200 Before you listen to this statement

01:02:20.080 It's too late

01:02:20.700 You don't wanna end up

01:02:22.000 Being a 35 year old

01:02:22.900 Twitch streamer do you

01:02:24.020 Cause trust me

01:02:25.080 It can happen

01:02:25.560 Before you fucking know it

01:02:27.220 Everyone's like

01:02:29.000 Everyone you know

01:02:29.560 Kind of does that thing

01:02:30.240 Where they're like

01:02:30.640 You know like

01:02:31.320 have fun and basically what they're saying is

01:02:33.500 have a lot of sex with a lot of people

01:02:35.620 and I'm like that sounds cool

01:02:37.720 but like how about like having someone

01:02:39.540 that you just really love

01:02:41.040 it's whatever it might happen

01:02:42.800 it might not happen listen

01:02:45.120 fucking be young

01:02:47.140 you can do whatever you want listen to me

01:02:49.480 what does that mean

01:02:51.260 he's doing the thing

01:02:53.000 be fucking young as long

01:02:55.700 as you want age doesn't matter

01:02:57.660 of course unless it's legally binding

01:03:00.020 age doesn't matter it doesn't fuck brother listen to me when i was when i was 26 i was like or sorry

01:03:08.680 when i was 18 i was like damn i really got to start looking for my job i got to go to the

01:03:12.780 university i got to get a degree i got to do all this stuff and then i just smoked crack for like

01:03:17.340 10 years bro and still look at me bro so the moral of the story is no i'm not saying do that by any

01:03:23.820 means but i got it now i'm a best-selling author i got the you know sought after girlfriend i got

01:03:28.820 at all

01:03:29.260 and I'm still

01:03:29.980 just getting started

01:03:30.740 I'm still not doing

01:03:31.600 any adult shit

01:03:32.480 I'm a twitch streamer

01:03:33.680 I play video games

01:03:35.300 roll with the punches

01:03:36.120 roll with the punches

01:03:36.680 no do whatever

01:03:37.640 the fuck makes you happy

01:03:39.640 exactly

01:03:40.000 regardless of age

01:03:41.080 if you want to

01:03:41.560 settle around

01:03:41.960 and get a picket fence

01:03:42.720 at 17 do it

01:03:43.620 you want to be single

01:03:44.500 till you're 60

01:03:45.260 fucking do it bro

01:03:46.920 yeah

01:03:47.340 whatever makes you happy

01:03:48.500 I mean yeah

01:03:48.920 you're especially

01:03:50.060 I think with your love life

01:03:51.100 you're you know

01:03:52.020 as long as you're not

01:03:52.820 hurting anybody else

01:03:53.660 entitled to do

01:03:54.380 literally whatever

01:03:54.880 the fuck you want

01:03:55.620 it's like

01:03:56.060 that's it

01:03:56.520 you know

01:03:57.000 does Lana make you happy

01:03:58.140 absolutely all the time not all i don't think any really a percentage of how i know how often

01:04:02.880 i think it depends on what tact is gonna be it's gonna be the dog house if you lately it's been

01:04:07.720 a high percentage but but it goes to it goes into its you know dips i mean it's it's as of the past

01:04:13.540 three days she's rolling into that time of the month right now and so the happiness drought is

01:04:18.680 coming you know it's the past couple nights we've had some fights for sure but that's to be expected

01:04:23.040 listen relationships aren't perfect they're they're never super super easy especially as you get past

01:04:27.720 the honeymoon period yeah relationships are like the most fucked up science experiment ever it's

01:04:32.920 like you know they have like controlled experiments like think about how many variables like a human

01:04:37.160 being has like being hungry or like your friend said some shit to you but then like life just

01:04:43.120 like different like just all the different things that can make somebody be like and just you know

01:04:48.480 get pissed off yeah it's a lot now add fame wealth followers clout oh yeah into sex you know into the

01:04:55.940 matter LA Los Angeles menopause menopause oh wait a second I'm sorry that one shouldn't be involved

01:05:02.220 but but I mean for you maybe for me maybe I'm going yeah but but it's crazy you're absolutely

01:05:08.360 right the way I always describe it is my favorite analogy you're in life you're when you're single

01:05:13.780 you're just driving along driving down the street you got both hands on the wheel you could turn the

01:05:17.180 car wherever you want and get off the exit and get back on you're always in full control of the

01:05:20.700 vehicle you get in a relationship a romantic relationship with somebody else you got to take

01:05:25.420 one hand off the wheel they put their hand on and now both you motherfuckers are driving the car

01:05:29.900 but at any moment she could just go and drive that fucker right off the cliff now sometimes

01:05:36.160 you start to missteer and she takes over and steers the car straight and it's really nice to

01:05:39.900 have a loving partner but sometimes they're going through that time of the month and they drive you

01:05:43.860 straight into a bridge dude or off a bridge or into a bridge who knows but do you ever feel like

01:05:49.700 sometimes driving driving the single car it's like there's like imagine going down a freeway

01:05:54.240 And there's just so many billboards

01:05:56.140 And you're like oh wow

01:05:56.980 Welcome to LA

01:05:58.460 That's correct

01:05:59.380 And you start driving like a maniac

01:06:01.100 You're running into shit

01:06:02.860 Your insurance goes up

01:06:04.720 You get a ticket

01:06:05.340 Like all sorts of fucked up LL

01:06:08.580 But you can go wherever you want

01:06:10.800 So I take it you're single

01:06:12.360 Yes

01:06:13.240 Despite my relationship marathon

01:06:17.060 I had for like the last year and a half

01:06:18.720 Two years

01:06:19.420 Is that how long that was?

01:06:20.880 I had a few girlfriends

01:06:22.260 I went back to back

01:06:23.220 And I think, I think I'm at a, it was just one of those things.

01:06:26.520 And now I think I'm at a place where, I mean, it's been six months.

01:06:29.920 I'm definitely, I wouldn't be, if I met, if somebody walked into my life three hours from now and I was just blown away, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be like, yeah, but I would definitely be open to pursue it.

01:06:39.840 But I'm also, I'm, I'm like, I know what I, I feel like I'm starting to understand what I want.

01:06:45.160 I don't know it yet, but I'm understanding it.

01:06:47.440 so i'm gonna take a lot more time instead of just being like oh shit i'm like lonely and don't like

01:06:52.400 random sex and like want someone to call when i do something cool and you know yeah like i'm a

01:06:56.660 hopeless romantic uh but i would i would give you surely have a tattoo that says that no i'm not that

01:07:02.280 bad i would suck i don't think i'd be on the show um but i'm not gonna give into that i'm gonna like

01:07:08.140 remind myself like yo like be be cool with yourself like be comfortable being alone like

01:07:13.020 So, look, dude, I can relate to all the things you're saying that's affecting me.

01:07:19.620 The fibers of my being are vibrating.

01:07:23.420 I normally have that effect on guys.

01:07:26.100 I can feel that.

01:07:27.900 Between you and I, where are you meeting new women?

01:07:34.160 Or where are you looking for love, Sam?

01:07:36.480 You got to help me.

01:07:38.140 It's a good question to ask.

01:07:39.420 I'm having a quarter-life crisis here, dude.

01:07:41.860 especially especially in covid in covid dude dude just got out of a relationship five seconds ago

01:07:48.780 hold on a second it wasn't just and also i'm not looking i'm just saying i'm panicking because

01:07:53.540 this is where i'm like i'm like oh well that last one didn't work i'm gonna be alone forever

01:07:57.660 for me i'm convinced this is fucking it and i don't know what to do yeah um he's like yeah man

01:08:04.560 fuck you his dad's over here looking on like you this guy you went on his podcast

01:08:10.440 get off this pussy show he's 25 he's gotta help he's gotta figure it out i think i think there's

01:08:16.180 a couple things as far as like the all right i give i fucking give up i'm 25 thing just i i'm

01:08:21.540 like i try to stay excited by like okay i think i might have this idea of what love is or like

01:08:28.580 like to the fullest extreme but like realistically i probably have no fucking clue and like this

01:08:34.580 this crazy feeling that i've had could just get completely outdone and i might look back and be

01:08:39.720 like oh my god like you know just patience and here here it is um so like that let that keep

01:08:46.100 you excited but as far as looking for it i mean i you obviously can't look for love but as far as

01:08:53.200 meeting people i take the shallow routes and i take instagram instagram i'm on raya um raya's

01:09:00.900 raya's great they've decided not to when it comes to logan okay not to what you may ask we don't

01:09:06.600 know oh just decided not to um i'm i'm getting on it's it's by the greg what's greg bareth if

01:09:13.660 you're watching this i know you probably got a connection with fucking somebody there

01:09:17.200 it's it's it's great but i one thing i also like too is i've met like a lot of i've met up with a

01:09:23.580 lot of girls in the app and then we the chemistry's not really there and we end up becoming good

01:09:26.820 friends and then maybe and then you maybe you end up meeting one of their friends oh you know

01:09:31.860 I'm having a threesome.

01:09:33.160 Sorry, what's happening?

01:09:33.880 Things just spiral.

01:09:35.180 How do you think this Raya...

01:09:37.220 But where are you hanging out, too?

01:09:38.860 Well, I don't leave my house.

01:09:40.480 He's in the garage all day.

01:09:41.480 That gets tough.

01:09:42.580 That gets tough.

01:09:43.900 What do you mean hanging out?

01:09:45.120 Where do you hang out?

01:09:46.120 I guess we're not really hanging out anywhere, huh?

01:09:47.960 Right?

01:09:48.200 That's what I'm saying.

01:09:48.860 But he's got a blue check, too.

01:09:49.900 I mean, it's such a cheat code, yeah?

01:09:52.180 I think.

01:09:52.980 No, it's not.

01:09:53.460 Not really as much anymore because the saturation is up.

01:09:55.760 It doesn't matter.

01:09:56.620 It doesn't matter.

01:09:57.040 In Iowa, it does.

01:09:58.220 This actually ties into...

01:09:59.460 I mean, it might not matter as much here

01:10:01.280 because everybody under the sun's got one this like ties into something that i was talking to

01:10:04.840 my friends last night and i was like you know at first i was like what am i going to talk about

01:10:09.520 and then i'm like no you know what it'll just whatever's going to occur but they did say one

01:10:12.960 thing that i had mentioned to them and i feel like this kind of ties into it you said like oh

01:10:17.180 blue check's like a cheat code a lot of my guy friends who like don't really understand what

01:10:21.760 like this position's like are like dude like every girl follows you or like every girl knows you are

01:10:27.100 like just dm them and i'm like yo here's i'm like here's the thing it's like i almost sometimes

01:10:32.180 am envious of like the account that's just like looks like a cool kid no check mark a thousand

01:10:36.900 followers whatever it is because if they dm someone and the person replies it's almost like

01:10:41.280 this validation of like they probably saw your page we're like all right this person looks kind

01:10:45.880 of dope and you get to you get to start things off with this edge of confidence and it's kind

01:10:49.640 of open-ended just what it could be i dm any single girl you know because i'm look i'm a i'm

01:10:55.320 a man i'm i'm i i like girls like i don't i separate work and i separate pleasure but i'm

01:11:01.660 gonna see somebody where i'm gonna go you're so attractive you're really cool and maybe it's

01:11:05.640 somebody i would want to work with but maybe i'm like ah you know i'd love to like be a human being

01:11:09.860 that's tough for you and and what's what sucks is like if i reach out to them what do you think

01:11:15.100 they think i'm hitting them up for to shoot yeah so even if they respond it's not any sense of a

01:11:19.680 validation that maybe they have an interest in me and then it's also something where as soon as

01:11:23.600 somebody's like i want to work with you i drop the i drop the like game of like hey like yeah

01:11:28.600 because you don't want to make the blacklist exactly so so so the whole conversation the

01:11:33.200 whole conversation normally starting can't even really be me trying to like it's like

01:11:37.700 it the small talking and the trying to be like cool and funny whatever gets tough because then

01:11:43.020 i'm like trying to steer the whole initial part of the conversation to make it clear like

01:11:46.620 hey i'm hitting you up on some human being shit outside of work yeah and so that's why i ended

01:11:51.380 up using riot because i was like pretty your dating apps i don't know if i can mention um

01:11:55.880 and i because the attention's clear right you'll never believe this dude i i match with people all

01:12:02.280 the time on riot and they message me and go oh my god i'd love to shoot with you and i used to just

01:12:06.880 i used to just not reply and now i'll respond and be like really like are you fucking kidding

01:12:12.120 i'm serious like like one person like i i matched them we had a great conversation she was like

01:12:17.400 yeah so like i was like all right so like let's hang out and she's like yes like what do you

01:12:20.880 thank you for the shoot and i was like what's the location and i was like oh come on like you know

01:12:25.600 better like we're on a dating app like you can't just let me like oh man you know what am i supposed

01:12:29.740 to do just be absent and not like talk to anybody for the rest of my life should i just like go into

01:12:33.560 bars and like you know rip off my identity no like so i'm still trying to figure out how to walk this

01:12:39.160 line it gets tough it's it's tough you got it worse than me man yeah you're fucked yeah sorry

01:12:44.420 yeah i was being facetious i'll probably be all right yeah i'll probably be good it's a blessing

01:12:48.320 to get a curse that's that's tricky yeah i feel like if you what's a raya bio what does it say

01:12:53.300 um i think my name's sam i don't shoot photos no it's so don't ask i should change it to

01:12:59.400 i'm not here to shoot you really should and then make sure in parentheses you say

01:13:04.020 i'm only here to shoot my shot yeah it's been it's been a couple things at one point i think

01:13:09.560 i was drunk listening to that song um sweet escape like when stefani and she was like

01:13:14.420 i've been a real bad girl or something i mean i'm in my bio i've been a bad girl because i thought

01:13:18.960 it was funny and then i forgot that i did that and then i was like oh my god this is like what

01:13:21.800 my bio said and then i think i just changed it to just a really handsome funny cool talented

01:13:27.680 awesome dope confident but humble guy nice yeah that's where i'm that's where i'm sticking at

01:13:34.080 Can I pitch you one?

01:13:35.260 Yes.

01:13:35.900 All right.

01:13:37.100 Check it out.

01:13:38.740 I like epoxy projects, Pokemon, and listening to audiobooks when I commute.

01:13:50.220 Beautiful.

01:13:51.100 Is it good?

01:13:51.720 It's nice.

01:13:56.800 Yeah, you got nowhere to write the bio, man.

01:13:59.220 Where are you going to write it?

01:13:59.900 Well, there's other data now.

01:14:01.220 It's hypothetical.

01:14:03.040 Bumble Hinge?

01:14:04.080 Do I dare go on Tinder

01:14:06.120 Let's be honest

01:14:07.620 Dating apps are outdated

01:14:09.640 It's like the technology hasn't caught up

01:14:12.260 Part of me is hoping that somebody

01:14:14.480 Comes along

01:14:15.280 You shut your fucking mouth

01:14:18.080 You shut your mouth

01:14:19.540 I won't say it but soon I will

01:14:21.400 I'm waiting for the happy medium

01:14:23.460 It's like Raya is like this thing for like

01:14:25.180 Hot and famous people

01:14:26.500 And I have a following but I'm like

01:14:28.400 I get on there and I'm like holy fuck look who I'm competing with

01:14:31.400 It's like

01:14:31.820 you know it's like i mean i can't see the the guys on it but i could only imagine that it's i've i'm

01:14:36.740 up against quite the logan like is that logan paul yeah quite the quite the militia people

01:14:41.500 and i'm like all right can we like can we just even the playing field a little bit and then i'm

01:14:45.400 like no let me go back here and i'm like yeah i don't know but it's yeah whatever it's having a

01:14:50.260 good time chris evans yeah like how am i like but i i have a whole theory that's concerned when

01:14:56.000 you're in this this bubble of just everybody's like and i've learned this from my roommate and

01:15:01.020 I hope he watches this he's you know he's a goof he just wears whatever he wants he does whatever

01:15:06.240 he's out of his mind and I used to always be like there's no way this guy like gets girls he's crazy

01:15:10.620 but he's just like unapologetically himself and just wants to like make people have fun and it's

01:15:15.800 just funny and so he'd go on the app and he made his whole profile like made himself look like a

01:15:20.060 complete idiot like didn't try to look cool or attractive and then whenever he matched somebody

01:15:24.120 he'd match them like he'd send them like the most absurd but like well-written stuff and his success

01:15:29.700 rate was just like way better than a lot of people because it didn't look you know nobody likes to

01:15:34.700 try hard sam well nobody likes to fucking try hard people like funny humorous people people that

01:15:39.940 aren't trying hard bro yeah you just show up have a good time girl do girls just wanna have i know

01:15:48.660 it sounds like a song but i'm telling you it's the fact of the fucking is that is that right mom you

01:15:54.320 just want to have fun i mean at first mom right like i know deep down the line like it turns into

01:15:58.520 more than that but at first girls want to laugh they want to have a good time you know what i'm

01:16:02.180 saying and so if you can i just want to have a good time say i know i know that about you yeah

01:16:06.700 so boys just want to have fun so now all you have to do is just show them you because that's who you

01:16:11.980 are so if you're so if you try to if you could show them the real same damage like you already

01:16:16.120 won you won yeah dating dating pro tip if you're on a dating app send somebody something funny

01:16:23.060 Oh right here

01:16:24.640 Send somebody

01:16:25.380 Something funny

01:16:26.200 But like ridiculous

01:16:27.160 You know

01:16:28.060 Maybe it's like

01:16:29.260 A harder to comprehend

01:16:30.440 Sense of humor

01:16:31.060 And the chances are

01:16:32.180 They're not gonna reply

01:16:33.080 It's gonna be like

01:16:33.540 What the fuck is wrong

01:16:34.340 With this guy

01:16:34.860 But

01:16:35.180 But if they do

01:16:36.440 They're hilarious

01:16:37.580 You're talking about

01:16:38.460 Witty banter

01:16:39.280 Witty banter

01:16:40.800 Lost it

01:16:42.700 Witty banter

01:16:43.860 It's my gauge

01:16:44.680 It's my gauge

01:16:45.580 Right off the rip

01:16:46.740 Cause I used to

01:16:48.060 I was around

01:16:49.620 Raya

01:16:50.480 Way back in the day

01:16:51.860 Vintage

01:16:52.840 yeah and i used to uh try to be cool and now that i'm 25 i'm like all right like a part of me is

01:16:59.200 cool but most of me is kind of weird like i i like i'm after this i'll go pour my epoxy right

01:17:04.480 yeah maybe go look up my pokemon card edit a video answer some emails like i'm fucking weird

01:17:08.940 you're an odd guy yeah so um a part of me now or now anyways just it's fully okay with that and uh

01:17:17.360 maybe because my intentions back in the day were strictly to just like have sex yeah i mean but

01:17:22.220 it was a dating app

01:17:23.520 like who fucking knows

01:17:24.180 but now it's like

01:17:24.880 okay you know

01:17:25.500 I'm aging up

01:17:26.560 they're a lot different now

01:17:28.240 and so

01:17:29.000 I'm okay with 100%

01:17:30.520 being myself

01:17:31.260 and witty banter

01:17:32.260 right off the rip

01:17:33.720 will tell me

01:17:34.760 if this person

01:17:35.540 is operating

01:17:36.100 on any sort of

01:17:37.160 weird wavelength

01:17:38.620 that I am as well

01:17:39.660 and I'll throw some

01:17:40.420 I'll throw a kitchen sink

01:17:42.100 at you

01:17:42.380 like literally

01:17:43.080 like I'll find you

01:17:44.240 and throw a kitchen sink

01:17:45.920 at you

01:17:46.120 like Sam just said

01:17:47.240 when it comes to DMs

01:17:49.040 and making a first impression

01:17:50.000 on a dating app

01:17:50.580 take the swing

01:17:51.240 take the full fucking swing and there's a good chance they're going to say that it's going to

01:17:55.180 go right over their head they're not going to understand your your your humor and that's fine

01:18:00.700 but there it but for the three out of ten people or two out of ten people that think it's funny

01:18:05.000 that you said that you i'm not even gonna say that forget it i was gonna say something a girl

01:18:10.760 said to me one time about storing human skin don't say that don't don't actually say that

01:18:14.660 i remember that weird girl i was talking to that i have like one of the one of the more ridiculous

01:18:19.480 ones top of mind i think grady crafted it um but it was like on my roommate it was on my account

01:18:25.420 he messaged somebody and he was like hey i've got this really cool date idea i made lasagna

01:18:30.780 six days ago and i got a dope microwave and enough gunpowder to take out a small horse what do you

01:18:35.920 say yes and she she replied and goes fuck yeah i'm in i got a meatball and a death wish and i was

01:18:41.720 like dude what this girl is so that's what i'm saying take that chance like i don't even know

01:18:46.880 What any of that means

01:18:47.700 But I was like

01:18:48.160 Yeah you

01:18:48.500 It makes sense

01:18:49.740 No cause that one's deep

01:18:51.120 That's deep

01:18:51.800 That's like a

01:18:52.540 That's like a 7 or 8 out of 10

01:18:54.140 On the witty banter

01:18:54.960 Like you'll lose a lot of people

01:18:56.500 With that

01:18:56.920 But the meatball death wish response

01:18:58.920 That sounds like a marriage

01:19:00.700 What does it mean

01:19:00.860 Nobody knows what it means

01:19:02.400 But it's provocative

01:19:03.020 It's provocative

01:19:03.640 Yeah I don't

01:19:04.180 I don't

01:19:04.520 Yeah it was

01:19:05.540 It was provocative

01:19:06.360 Kanye says that

01:19:07.580 That's right

01:19:08.020 It's provocative

01:19:08.500 I knew somebody would catch that

01:19:09.660 In the background

01:19:10.100 Nobody knows what it means

01:19:11.720 But it's provocative

01:19:12.400 It's from Blades of Glory

01:19:13.680 Blades of Glory

01:19:14.440 Blades of Glory

01:19:15.000 It's in a Kanye song

01:19:16.120 It is

01:19:16.240 But it's in blades

01:19:17.040 Okay

01:19:17.320 Damn bro

01:19:18.440 Shoot your shot

01:19:19.260 And when you shoot

01:19:20.260 Don't shoot like everybody else

01:19:21.700 Shoot to go over the net

01:19:23.300 Like hit some old lady

01:19:24.600 In the bleachers

01:19:25.260 Behind the hoop

01:19:26.100 Alright

01:19:26.840 Shoot that way

01:19:27.580 So should we

01:19:29.080 Should we skip the

01:19:30.100 The opening credits now

01:19:31.120 And just get to the fight scene

01:19:32.200 Or

01:19:32.400 Or did we already do the fight scene

01:19:34.000 Where we at on the agenda

01:19:35.380 Is this a Josie conversation

01:19:36.800 No no no no

01:19:37.720 Sorry

01:19:38.000 Wait do you have a fight scene

01:19:39.620 You wanna fight

01:19:40.100 No it was

01:19:40.680 It was an expression

01:19:41.500 Where we at on this

01:19:42.620 Like I could sit here all day

01:19:44.000 Oh Mayweather

01:19:44.760 Talk to you guys

01:19:45.520 No I was

01:19:46.020 I was going to wrap it up

01:19:47.360 I mean unless

01:19:47.980 Oh yeah

01:19:49.600 Cool

01:19:49.860 Yeah no I have

01:19:50.540 It could have been 10 minutes

01:19:51.620 Or it could have been like 2 hours

01:19:52.860 I just don't know where I'm at

01:19:54.200 I have no idea what time is

01:19:56.120 Yeah that's all I got

01:19:57.460 Sam thank you again

01:19:58.520 For coming on Impulsive

01:19:59.280 Woo

01:19:59.820 Yeah yeah

01:20:00.720 We love you dude

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01:20:04.420 Everybody

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01:20:11.600 Take it easy

01:20:12.240 I love you bro

01:20:12.480 We love you Sam

01:20:13.360 Bye

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01:20:20.880 We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart.

01:20:25.080 And I'm Lisa DiGiulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references,

01:20:29.460 occasionally different opinions.

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01:21:36.040 Each week I bring on an amazing guest.

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01:22:01.840 Wait, they said that?

01:22:02.860 Yeah, yeah, they said that.

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01:22:13.320 Listen out of character on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

01:22:18.580 Sometimes I just feel like a burden.

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01:22:24.580 Dude, you messed up the clip.

Impaulsive with Logan Paul - December 18, 2020

E244 Sam Dameshek： Hollywood's Celebrity Photographer

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