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00:02:12.740 Mood was probably one of the most tumultuous, challenging periods in my life

00:02:17.820 because this thing of getting a number one song, right?

00:02:21.380 There's artists that have worked decades and have huge songs

00:02:25.720 and huge careers that never got a number one.

00:02:27.560 and here i am at 19 getting it off playing a call of duty game so i'm like

00:02:32.400 well what does this mean like what do i do now you know

00:02:36.400 danny texted george in the group chat said george are you coming to the podcast today

00:02:46.660 that starts right now just curious once again george is late but regardless welcome back to

00:02:50.860 impulsive the number one podcast in the world thank you guys for listening watching viewing

00:02:54.220 and subscribing it's 2 p.m our guest is here on time before george who is i don't know he's a big

00:03:01.280 shot now he just shows up whenever he pleases he just knows that we can't say anything bad he knows

00:03:06.440 we're up against the wall when it comes to the audience so we can't say all we can say is gee

00:03:10.720 we hope he sure shows up we do sure we sure do love that guy which we do which we do we love

00:03:16.340 both yeah how your uh instagram dm's going i noticed you have a new uh strategy that i like

00:03:22.680 what is it what is the buckshot what is it what is it just send as many as possible

00:03:27.520 that's not true quantity over quality literally where did you get that you you use the verbiage

00:03:34.600 buckshot pray i don't think it was regarding instagram dms i haven't been sending that many

00:03:39.660 i've been getting a bunch i've been getting a bunch you've seen them why is that why is that 0.91

00:03:44.140 mike because so the thing with girls is they wait until like dudes will dm a girl whenever if she's 0.99

00:03:51.180 in a relationship they'll still dm they don't give a fuck about your man they don't care but 1.00

00:03:55.500 girls have this like at least some girls have a little bit of like female the female respect like 1.00

00:04:00.460 they'll wait until the girl's out the relationship then they'll start sending the uh let's fuck dms 0.99

00:04:05.100 okay so so what now that you're single you you just uh i don't even know bro i'm gonna be honest 1.00

00:04:10.100 i i told you on the show i took a vow of celibacy for 2021 you you are lying to the skin of your 0.98

00:04:17.200 teeth you're a liar i think that i think girls like hearing that though it's like it's a challenge 0.92

00:04:24.320 that's why that's why that's 1000 why i do all right so i think we're just going to bring on 0.99

00:04:29.260 the guest i think we have i think we have to nobody else to talk to here we go ladies and

00:04:34.400 gentlemen our guest today is the artist behind the global number one smash hit mood and has his

00:04:38.540 debut album el dorado dropping march 26th ladies and gentlemen it's 24k golden wow

00:04:44.240 my guy my guy what's up brother wow normally we had one more set of hands clapping

00:04:51.860 i don't know great kid what up homie what's up man how you feeling today good to see you bro

00:04:58.640 you too how are you feeling mike i think that was directed towards you there's no way that you could

00:05:03.240 no i'm all right i'm good i'm good i was i'm all right bro so listen in doing some research for

00:05:10.220 you for this show i googled your age yeah dog you're born in 2000 yeah no chill millennial i'm

00:05:19.440 a millennial baby man no no no i'm a millennial baby no you're a millennial i'm a millennial baby

00:05:25.720 what's that mean because you're i was born literally at the the dawn oh i see what you're

00:05:30.840 saying millennium yeah okay okay oh literally you're a millennial millennium okay wow this

00:05:36.840 makes me so happy. I always love when

00:05:38.800 someone comes on the show that makes you seem

00:05:40.760 old because I'm always the old guy

00:05:42.680 and now somebody actually makes you seem a little

00:05:44.760 bit outdated. How old are you guys?

00:05:46.800 I'm old.

00:05:48.880 I'm a bit older. I was. I will say this.

00:05:50.780 I will say this. I was 21.

00:05:52.840 Okay. I was 21.

00:05:54.500 Back in the 1800s.

00:05:56.460 Right when the horse and buggy came out.

00:05:59.980 Yeah.

00:06:00.560 This dude broke an axle on the Oregon Trail.

00:06:02.400 On the Oregon Trail. A little dysentery

00:06:04.660 here and there. Wow. He knows the

00:06:06.320 references what's good bro why do you know that reference i'm a i'm a historian of culture your

00:06:10.920 culture i'm a student of the game god dang dude with the disinterested reference bro at that party

00:06:15.900 the other night that was uh everyone was wearing masks obviously and you came up to me from six

00:06:22.980 feet away and said uh hey you dropped your pocket like in passing right yeah and i had just said 0.98

00:06:28.480 that to my boxing coach that day and he you know he said you my pocket i go you can't fucking drop 0.95

00:06:34.540 your pocket so you said it to me i go you can't fucking drop your pocket and i'd never heard 0.84

00:06:39.220 anyone say that reference before so i guess you know in that degree you're you are culture yes 0.85

00:06:44.140 that's like one of those good ones it's like always gonna work no matter like the time the

00:06:49.220 day except unless you meet someone that already knows it like already knows all right so you grew

00:06:52.960 up in san francisco san francisco california proper yes california kid yes so where's the swag come

00:06:58.060 from dude you're 20 years old and i said this to ian who's also on the show just you're oozing

00:07:02.500 what's good you're just born cool we oozing i mean you know i think it's a little bit of 0.91

00:07:06.700 nature and nurture combination you know like being my parents are really fucking cool like

00:07:11.060 they modeled and stuff before they had me for like years not on no like cindy crawford level but like

00:07:16.500 to be a working model in like the 80s and 90s you had to work a lot so they were doing their thing

00:07:21.860 they was on the scene and i guess some of that just dripped onto me and i was fortunate enough

00:07:26.280 to meet a lot of cool people growing up that that kind of spilled some sauce i didn't know i didn't

00:07:30.600 know they had it like that in san francisco no no offense you know like what like i don't know

00:07:34.760 just like i thought it was mostly like nerds like facebook companies yeah i you know you

00:07:38.860 like tech startup the bay the bay always goes hard bro i mean the bay's got a i think the bay 0.99

00:07:44.220 probably has more swag than who are some other artists uh produced by the bay i'm gonna fuck

00:07:50.200 this up e40 yeah that's right i had to be a little cautious uh e40 the bay area is historically 0.51

00:07:57.620 underrated in music culture forever and it's like i've heard this actually no it's it's it's like

00:08:02.620 it's so hard for us to to break out that ceiling like someone will take something that we do in

00:08:07.120 the bay area and do it in a different place and everyone will be like oh my god that's the craziest

00:08:11.100 shit ever but we just keep getting our swag stolen we we're the originators of the swag but 0.96

00:08:15.360 la you know just steals our swag all the time you know nothing we could do about that well the guy 0.98

00:08:19.360 they got you now you're you're leading the pack dude yes and it's been super cool to see you blow

00:08:23.760 up um because usually the way it works is there's one song that goes crazy with the new artists and

00:08:30.820 and all of a sudden they're blowing up and you never had heard of them before and that was mood

00:08:34.660 for you but then you had this resume built up of like also really good music and you continue to

00:08:40.380 create yeah so what when did all start i'm i'm fascinated by by your youth you made it all

00:08:45.820 happen by the age of 20 yeah i mean like it depends how far back you want to go you want

00:08:50.680 to go when i was doing like bruno mars covers at lunchtime for girls in middle school so we'll go

00:08:57.660 all the way back like middle school i think was when i first started like seeing well really like

00:09:02.520 second grade like i i remember asking my mom like yo can i do like a vocal lesson or something

00:09:06.700 because i was just the type of kid that always liked to like sing in the house sing in the shower 0.94

00:09:10.840 and my parents never told me like yo shut the fuck up like be quiet so i never stopped doing it 0.96

00:09:15.500 and i guess with practice you know the more you do something the better you get so i just kept 0.95

00:09:19.920 doing it and doing it but like middle school was when i started being more of a performer because

00:09:24.040 i did choir and i found out like oh i got a pretty nice voice like people like to hear it so i would

00:09:29.260 sing the covers at lunchtime for girls and stuff like that you would sing for girls at what age

00:09:34.640 probably like 10 11 yeah did you know frank sinatra did you always have the confidence um

00:09:41.420 not always i think i was always probably more more confident than my peers but it was still like

00:09:47.660 a lot of it was more external than internal until like you know you grow up and you start to get

00:09:52.780 feel so you start feeling yourself basically because i was a i was like a short chubby kid

00:09:57.720 with a huge afro up until about like junior year of high school and then i just went like

00:10:02.060 and then figured out oh your hair looks better when i wear like this you had to glow up yeah i

00:10:07.300 had to glow up for sure got you i'm always curious like when kids find a passion at a young age

00:10:13.080 whether it's like singing, dancing, uh, writing, whatever it is somewhere along, usually I'll go

00:10:17.740 ahead and say this. Usually I feel like those passions die when, when they come into, uh,

00:10:22.280 their teen years, adulthood. And, and you hear these stories about, you know, kids not being

00:10:28.180 able to accomplish their dream and be the thing that they wanted to be when they were a kid.

00:10:32.140 And I believe that it's partially because with singing, for example, that is a talent.

00:10:37.760 Like you started singing, you enjoyed it. And then you found out you were good and were able

00:10:42.440 To continue down that path

00:10:43.840 At the highest degree

00:10:44.800 Yeah

00:10:45.200 There's a level of luck there

00:10:47.800 Oh 100%

00:10:48.940 You believe that

00:10:50.360 You know

00:10:50.740 You were born with this thing

00:10:51.740 And then you're able

00:10:52.600 To just make it stronger

00:10:53.540 And better

00:10:53.900 You read like the book

00:10:54.600 Like Outliers before

00:10:55.480 Uh uh 0.98

00:10:56.720 I can't read

00:10:57.360 Alright

00:10:58.700 Cool

00:10:59.320 Is it a picture book

00:11:00.960 Basically

00:11:01.640 It's close

00:11:02.580 It's basically just like

00:11:03.700 Saying like

00:11:04.180 Yo

00:11:04.460 A lot of the most successful

00:11:05.740 People in the world

00:11:06.460 Like obviously

00:11:07.320 There's a level of

00:11:08.540 Hard work

00:11:09.360 And dedication

00:11:10.260 That you have to be

00:11:11.960 and talent that you have to put into it but a lot of stuff is things you can't control like

00:11:15.540 i didn't pick who my parents were like if i was butt ugly would i probably have had the same

00:11:20.720 success probably not you know that's just one of those things that kind of is out of my control

00:11:25.620 but help me i think me having uh this this talent for for singing and rapping is like

00:11:30.640 a god-given thing and i just was able to make the most out of it i'm so jealous dude that's i'm so

00:11:36.220 bro look look at your house you're doing great what are you talking about yo because because

00:11:39.940 here's why i have a aston martin out there but you're good it's uh rented uh it's mike's not

00:11:44.820 even rented someone just dropped it off i said y'all have it for a while i don't know when i'm

00:11:49.720 supposed to give it back did you one of the biggest things is identifying that talent i think

00:11:54.440 there's a lot of people out there who have something really special about them you know

00:11:58.580 they might be a really good writer they might be really good at photography but they they have

00:12:01.820 trouble identifying it you identified it and then parlayed the look the image and also used the right

00:12:09.600 platforms to get where you're at right like tell us about that journey a little bit um i mean it's

00:12:14.440 i tried a lot of different shit as a kid like as a kid i i was always an outside kid like yeah i

00:12:19.980 like being in the house and playing video games and stuff like i played a lot of video games but 0.86

00:12:24.140 i always just wanted to do something like i wasn't the type to just watch tv all day or something like

00:12:28.360 i really wanted to do stuff so i did like a brazilian martial art capoeira for seven years i

00:12:33.120 tried break dancing i tried robotics i tried programming i tried producing i just tried so

00:12:38.240 many different things like i was a huge sneaker reseller back in the day too and i think that 0.91

00:12:43.020 plays a big part of my success too being able to understand the business of shit how to market it 0.62

00:12:47.480 hustle so i kind of just stumbled into the artist thing because like my big bro paperweight he was 0.83

00:12:54.100 like always like yo you should make some music and get popping off at school and one day i was like

00:12:57.580 all right i do and he had a studio above this sneaker store that was like a couple blocks away

00:13:02.280 from my house and i went there i made the first song and i just sent it to everyone at school

00:13:07.540 like i texted everybody the soundcloud link and when i came to school the next day people were

00:13:11.680 listening to it i'm like oh this is dope and it kind of was like like something clicked and i'm

00:13:16.000 like oh this kind of combines everything that i'm kind of good at or already love doing like

00:13:20.100 business marketing you know singing dancing swag like it was just everything in one so i'm like 0.97

00:13:26.640 all right fuck it let's do it damn you understand he understands that so innately i talk about this 0.98

00:13:32.120 on my journey all the time too but like trying things is so important dude like you gotta if 0.99

00:13:39.080 you have i always tell people if you have even like a slight interest in something try it if

00:13:44.100 you if you think pictures are cool go buy a camera take some pictures if you think drones are cool

00:13:48.060 go fly a drone if you think business is cool start a little side hustle yeah because one day you find

00:13:52.980 yourself in a spot like you were in where you're like yo i could if i move this piece here move

00:13:56.540 this piece here i got something major you got that so young dude yeah i don't know shout out

00:14:03.200 my parents and like i just had a lot of good like mentors and people to like make me realize oh you

00:14:07.860 can you can literally do whatever you want you just have to play your cards right and work really

00:14:12.360 really fucking hard who are some of your mentors because you don't just you don't just make a 0.53

00:14:16.980 like a hit song and you don't just have this life experience or unless you do like i don't know i've 0.96

00:14:22.640 never done it obviously but you what you go just go in the studio and all of a sudden you got a

00:14:25.660 well i mean as as as much as i wish i could say like yeah i was working on this song for

00:14:31.500 two years and and constantly you know rearranging the lyrics mood was honestly a complete accident

00:14:38.740 like me and ian uh it was like the beginning of the pandemic me omer were who produced the song

00:14:44.260 we're just chilling and we're like all right we're bored let's go to ian's house kbz another

00:14:48.100 really good friend of mine and producer he pulled up too and we're just chilling and playing call

00:14:53.940 of duty and literally omar picks up one of ian's guitars and he does the and i just start singing

00:15:00.840 why are you always in the mood and omar's like stop that's it that's it right there like go

00:15:07.560 record that now and i'm like all right and we're literally me and ian are playing call of duty gun

00:15:11.740 game 2v2 while i'm doing that and it all happens and we just keep going and freestyling not even

00:15:17.640 thinking about it too hard and then boom number one song in the world so i don't know i can't

00:15:23.280 take full credit like i think a big part of creativity and stuff like that is being inspired

00:15:27.820 by some higher power collective consciousness or whatever it is i was just able to tap in with that

00:15:33.480 that day that's that's why i have goosebumps that's why that's crazy and also another another

00:15:38.200 funny thing i think ian might have touched on this when he was on but like it's funny how you're uh 0.91

00:15:43.900 like zone of complete comfort and playing call of duty just kicking it with the homies is what 0.85

00:15:49.840 led to that inspiration and that idea because i think a lot of people get so tied up in the like 0.70

00:15:55.860 day-to-day hustle and they don't find that boredom they don't find that moment to like just 0.51

00:15:59.600 create get creative and just like fuck around yeah and that's so important to the creative 0.78

00:16:03.980 process is that how like a lot of your stuff like comes about or all my best songs have been like 0.98

00:16:08.920 just random like melodies popping in my head like it's two in the morning i'm about to go to bed or

00:16:13.800 whatever and excuse me and and uh and like i'll just like hear something you know like whatever

00:16:25.460 it is and i'll just grab my phone voice memo it send it to omer and then he'll be like all right

00:16:29.760 this is fire like nah he was tripping on that one and whatever is the fire stuff we just we work on

00:16:34.760 it and it it becomes something great that just started off as like a random inkling of inspiration

00:16:42.180 you know i find that really cool um because i also know a lot of artists who are on the opposite

00:16:47.700 end of the spectrum where they'll go and get their heart broken intentionally or end up in

00:16:51.440 a relationship or put themselves in a fuck situation just to get some sort of inspiration 0.55

00:16:55.500 yeah how much of your music is coming from maybe that boredom is the word you used or uh 0.95

00:17:00.300 uh a more relaxed effort to make a song versus pain trauma yeah um i think you know pain is

00:17:08.380 something that everybody goes to that's just part of the human experience me i don't like it i like

00:17:13.360 to just be happy and and carefree you know and i feel like that's where it comes from but i think

00:17:18.480 it's important to experience the downs so you appreciate the ups more 100 and it just it does

00:17:24.280 give you stuff to talk about but i definitely don't try to put myself in those situations i just

00:17:28.860 i get that yeah you know it's a lot more fun to be happy yeah and and uh yeah stress-free i just uh

00:17:37.820 i know for me when i go through like a breakup or or shit's not going right for me it's when i'm

00:17:44.840 most inspired and most motivated and you're young man so like maybe you haven't had your heart 0.93

00:17:49.900 broken nah not yet fingers crossed it's gonna come one day like but it sucks man well i've had

00:17:55.880 like my fair share of like middle school girlfriends breaking my heart and stuff like

00:17:59.780 that i just think that was so like strong and impactful to me like yo i could still pull from

00:18:04.800 that place to this day because like yo when when when your girl you know it's sixth grade and your

00:18:10.620 girl breaks up with you at pe and you see her the next day with your homie like do you know what

00:18:15.280 that does to a person like that hurts yeah yeah yeah do you find the majority of your uh your 0.66

00:18:22.020 inspiration or your your content is coming from a collaborative standpoint with other people like

00:18:26.800 uh jamming out like somebody's just playing a tune and you come up with like a riff or or do 0.94

00:18:32.000 You find yourself writing and doing shit on your own. 0.81

00:18:34.720 So I don't really freestyle that much. 0.96

00:18:36.360 I like to be more purposeful with the words because it's like, I don't know.

00:18:40.620 We've gotten into a, like, hip-hop is in a weird, really weird place right now because

00:18:45.720 before it was all like lyrics, you know, like, what are you saying and do I relate

00:18:53.180 and does that, like, does that feel real, you know?

00:18:55.340 And then it kind of was, like, more, like, flow and just energy with the little pumps and the just, ah!

00:19:03.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:03.820 Words ain't even important no more.

00:19:05.640 It's just sound sometimes.

00:19:07.400 It's vibe.

00:19:08.300 It's just vibe.

00:19:08.980 And then now it's more, like, melody-based.

00:19:11.080 But I'm trying to, like, tie everything together.

00:19:13.580 So I write most of my stuff basically.

00:19:16.940 Whoa, that's an interesting chair layout.

00:19:19.140 He wants one of these chairs.

00:19:20.260 $800 for these chairs.

00:19:21.800 You could sit in them 12 different ways.

00:19:23.420 They go up, down, 90 degrees.

00:19:25.340 You cannot sit in these 12 different ways.

00:19:27.260 Maybe even more.

00:19:28.460 All right, where's the third way?

00:19:32.620 All right, I stand corrected.

00:19:34.040 All right, my bad.

00:19:34.580 Yeah, but ask him for like the ninth way.

00:19:35.880 Just nine more words.

00:19:36.600 I was doing there, you know what I'm saying?

00:19:38.640 But yeah, he flips it around once every show.

00:19:40.640 Okay, cool.

00:19:41.080 I'm going to do the same for mine.

00:19:41.920 About 16 minutes.

00:19:43.480 Great.

00:19:44.080 All right, we're on the same page now.

00:19:44.420 Do you wonder why you're on that chair?

00:19:45.900 He told me it's part of like the psychological torture for the guests.

00:19:48.860 It is, that's correct.

00:19:49.980 It's like a seer training. 0.89

00:19:51.300 Yeah, exactly.

00:19:52.500 Get the guest's posture up.

00:19:54.000 Yeah.

00:19:54.180 So, yeah, you're not you're not really into the just making noises when you make music. 0.99

00:19:58.980 No, I want to say some shit. 0.97

00:20:00.320 And I feel like the reason like why people like are attracted to my music is because it makes them feel good. 0.99

00:20:06.520 Great.

00:20:06.880 Or if they're feeling or if it's like a more sad song, it makes them feel like there's hope or like they can learn something or gain something from that.

00:20:13.860 Because to me, there's two types of sad songs.

00:20:16.280 There's sad songs that let you like wallow in your sadness and just kind of throw yourself a pity party.

00:20:22.140 or they're sad songs that that are going to help you get better and i want to make music that helps

00:20:27.280 people get better not feel worse or stay in a bad place your music makes me feel great yeah that

00:20:32.120 puts me in a great mood yeah very funny no but all of it all of it uh coco uh you just released

00:20:41.420 one three two one which which is awesome so check this out i want to ask you maybe you've thought

00:20:46.400 about this how do you avoid pigeonholing yourself so far in that lane of feel good like i don't

00:20:54.740 call it bubble gum music but you know what i'm saying because it's happened it's happened to

00:20:58.360 a lot of artists in the past three years is they only make that those like pop bangers yeah and

00:21:03.720 then get pigeonholed into only doing a certain a certain thing have you have you considered

00:21:08.240 branching out into maybe a little more feel so so mood and coco are probably the two most similar

00:21:15.340 songs that i've released in succession of each other and that was just because like yo this worked

00:21:20.480 and it felt good of course let me like put a more like rap twist on it than than pop but it's still

00:21:26.940 kind of like the same vibe three two one is completely different from both of those two

00:21:31.620 songs and if you look back at like my catalog before those songs are all different and with

00:21:35.800 the album that i'm dropping it's got like a full spectrum of everything like i purposefully want to 0.94

00:21:40.580 mind fuck people with every release like damn i didn't know he could do that like i'm i'm you know 0.67

00:21:45.640 i'm gonna drop the exclusive right now but i got a song with future on my on my project and i think 0.99

00:21:49.680 that's something that people really wouldn't expect from me yeah but it's like we're no no

00:21:55.280 human is just one thing you know we all have these dualities and these different sides of us and i

00:22:01.520 think a lot of artists are afraid to for whatever reason to to show all the different sides and i'm

00:22:06.680 like yo i'm a human before i'm an artist so my art has to be human too it has to be reflective

00:22:13.200 of all the different sides of me and all my different experiences i'll be interested to see

00:22:16.800 and i'm hopeful to see how long you can keep the attitude of staying true to yourself and your

00:22:23.820 and your multifacetedness in this city because because especially uh for an artist a musical

00:22:31.860 artist that is uh that does have a certain amount of like uh platformed based marketing and and you

00:22:38.520 know obviously i've gotten a lot of help from tiktok and other places and the labels in the

00:22:41.640 one ear and the platform and the audiences in the other it'll be interesting to see how long you can

00:22:46.580 keep saying yo not just because that worked that's not who i am yeah and i'm a key and i'm

00:22:51.820 gonna keep doing me will you like what are what are your biggest drivers towards staying true to

00:22:57.240 yourself right now um it's the people around me that that allow me to to to be free and you know

00:23:04.000 kind of explore and like bump my head and fuck up a little bit because i could put a song out and it

00:23:08.980 doesn't do that well but that doesn't mean it's the end of the world you know it's just like all

00:23:12.860 right well that didn't work let's try something else and when you're talking about like the city

00:23:17.060 like oh it's it's hard bro because everyone has a different vision of what you should be or or how

00:23:22.600 you could be and it's like getting pulled in 30 million different directions sometimes but

00:23:27.880 just having like that core group of people around they're like yo gee being you got you here like

00:23:33.060 just keep being you that helps a lot i've always said this my whole life i felt like i had a

00:23:39.440 through line of happiness regardless of my success or my failures what does that mean

00:23:42.920 i've just been stable with with how fulfilled i feel and how content i am with my life 0.63

00:23:48.640 regardless of whether i you know fuck up make a big mistake which i've done or one on an extremely

00:23:54.300 high level as well it just it didn't really affect where i was at and i feel i'm i feel that from you 0.63

00:24:00.040 a little bit like you're you're very optimistic happy-go-lucky um which i think is going to

00:24:04.480 contribute a lot to uh your success in hollywood but have you ever felt a moment where you i guess

00:24:10.600 just doubted your future or yourself fuck yeah i i think any artist that says they never doubted 0.99

00:24:16.480 himself is a goddamn liar because bro this this shit isn't guaranteed like coming from 1.00

00:24:21.880 from where i come from everything that i've achieved up to this point beats the statistics 1.00

00:24:27.580 you know like didn't go to jail you know didn't have no serious problems like the making money

00:24:33.800 like i'm making now like that is not supposed to happen statistically for someone like me so it's

00:24:38.420 like like it's it's very easy to be like well am i an imposter you know like the whole imposter

00:24:44.640 syndrome thing and and i think everybody goes through it sometimes more than others and some

00:24:51.680 people more than others but like for for the most part i'm able to to keep a level head i like this

00:24:57.300 thing good it's it seems like and just like touching on the fact that like not every single

00:25:02.760 thing you put out is gonna be a banger it's not possible for that to happen but to see

00:25:07.420 you at 20 like already understanding that because that's something that like it takes

00:25:11.660 creators some you know a lot of social creators too like when they start to see view counts dip 0.89

00:25:17.120 or they see a video that doesn't perform here and there it's the end of the fucking world but it's 0.78

00:25:21.240 fucked up because i felt that way before like i've i've been at a place where every morning i'd wake 0.94

00:25:26.340 up and check my spotify artists and if the streams went down i would have a way worse day and it just 0.95

00:25:32.200 kind of took some time for me to realize like yo i can't i can't let my my emotions be controlled by

00:25:39.000 these external factors that there's nothing i could really do about it like all i can do is

00:25:43.380 make the best music i can that represents how i feel and let the world decide whether they like

00:25:48.740 it or not remove yourself from the numbers you will become happy forever yeah but it's hard

00:25:54.540 though it's really hard it's so hard and some days it feels like oh i don't care about that 0.96

00:25:59.140 shit at all and other days it feels like the biggest thing in the world you know yeah yeah 0.98

00:26:03.120 Yeah. I can imagine after you released Mood, hey, you're on a high, right? This song took over. I remember the first time I heard it, I was like, this is a smash. A thousand percent is going to the top. I think I said it to my group. I was like, this song is amazing. Thanks for the promo. 0.99

00:26:17.720 yeah of course but but after that after the high ends how you follow that up if if i'm being honest

00:26:25.120 with you guys like mood was probably one of the most like tumultuous challenging periods in my

00:26:30.960 life because this this thing of getting a number one song right there's artists that have worked

00:26:36.020 decades and and have huge songs and huge careers that never got a number one and here i am at 19 0.62

00:26:42.700 getting it off playing a fucking call of duty game so i'm like well what does this mean like 0.80

00:26:48.140 what do i do now you know and i remember like i i really vividly remember like i just bought a car 0.97

00:26:54.100 this is my first car that i bought since i was in high school you know and i'm like well i got the

00:26:58.880 number one song i got a car i i have everything that i've been working for or that i think i've

00:27:04.820 been working for but for some reason i don't really feel happy like truly happy about it

00:27:10.280 and that was that was like a big wake-up call into like you know what is really important it's

00:27:15.300 the relationships that you have with the people around you that love you and it's you know making

00:27:20.040 stuff that you're proud of and making an impact and doing stuff that's going to change other

00:27:23.680 people's lives this kid's like out here spitting crazy you're wise behind your ears no no and he

00:27:29.240 has said that to a number of guests but i'm in full agreeance with him today like you you really

00:27:33.680 you really are and understand like the way the way that you put it and and people should understand

00:27:39.260 is like this is a long game right and so like all those little slip backs or like ones like you look

00:27:45.800 at the big hits the ones that brought in all of these new people that didn't know who you were

00:27:50.020 and then the next one comes around and maybe 60 of them are were there yeah but there's if you look

00:27:55.160 at the song that came before it's a 20 increase from the one before it and you start to notice

00:27:59.880 that yo the big hits just act as marketing materials for your long-term climb and every

00:28:03.940 time you pick up some more core fans exactly because that's that's really like the the only

00:28:08.720 things that matter as artists is the music you're putting out and does your real fans are you growing 0.54

00:28:13.940 your true fan base and and are they still fucking with you you know because at the end of the day 0.77

00:28:18.980 you know people are going to come and go go when you're hot and when you're not but it's like the 0.85

00:28:23.460 true people that stick around with you and are going to love you do the good the bad and ugly

00:28:26.680 those are the ones that that matter more than any any you know temporary love yeah i hate to

00:28:33.380 keep going back to this one moment but it seems so pivotal to me uh was was mood do you think the

00:28:40.480 beginning of the career that you thought you'd always have no i think it started a lot earlier

00:28:47.900 than that which is mood is probably the first song that people heard and were able to put my

00:28:52.620 face to it but people forget i have two platinum songs before that i had valentino and city of

00:28:57.880 angels i wanted to ask about this because i i was one of those people i forgot i was like yo i know

00:29:02.400 i know this sound because you have a very distinct sound but but from where and from

00:29:06.360 what and how and um sorry there's a little tight kick the wire there we go um and i i was wondering

00:29:16.260 why because even when mood was released i think a lot of people thought that was ian's song

00:29:21.520 am i tripping i don't know i don't know i felt like he i felt like he got a lot of traction

00:29:27.600 off of that um and rightfully so yeah but i don't know i uh it's i guess it surprised me that i

00:29:35.080 hadn't heard of you until that song because you already had a presence in music that that was

00:29:41.200 always really like like i think that was probably the biggest moment of both of our careers so far

00:29:45.680 you know because and and that's some type of shit that you can't do by yourself like i'm glad we did

00:29:50.680 that together because that's my boy and i want to see him win too you know but i think it's it's 0.57

00:29:55.440 definitely like it was always like a weird like a question for me like yo how come i got two hit

00:30:00.880 songs like how come no one yeah like knows who i am like like that and and i was just like i'm not

00:30:07.160 a one-hit wonder like i'm not like i'm a two-hit wonder now like shouldn't shouldn't something be

00:30:11.320 shaking and moving but honestly bro it's like i don't have i didn't get any cosigns from the

00:30:16.220 beginning it wasn't like i was part of a scene on the come up so to to develop my my fan base and

00:30:22.500 and like my recognition we kind of just had to like build it from the bottom and

00:30:28.380 everybody's artist career is different and that was something i had to learn to accept too like

00:30:32.920 i cannot compare myself to any other artists because we all had different come-ups and all

00:30:37.200 have different paths so i'm just like all right i don't know when it's gonna happen but all i can

00:30:42.300 like all i can do is just focus on what i can control the music and like what i'm posting on

00:30:47.420 social media and like putting out into the world in my opinion i think the slow steady and then

00:30:54.960 exponential growth is the healthiest yeah i i i think it's uh it's the best for longevity in in

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00:32:19.620 So now that you're here.

00:32:20.780 Yeah.

00:32:21.540 On the number one podcast in the world.

00:32:22.960 In the casino.

00:32:23.480 That's right.

00:32:23.940 That's right.

00:32:25.420 Life's been crazy, I would imagine.

00:32:27.500 Yeah.

00:32:27.880 Have you had a Hollywood moment?

00:32:29.580 What's a Hollywood moment?

00:32:30.420 I can't believe that this is what happened with my life.

00:32:33.720 Wow, this is wild.

00:32:34.440 You're standing somewhere and all of a sudden-

00:32:35.760 Overlooking the city.

00:32:36.560 drake was doing a peg stand you know what i'm saying like anything what like um i i have like

00:32:43.240 a hollywood moment like every couple of weeks you know like i i think it really it really hasn't set

00:32:48.460 into me like the gravity of of where i'm at in my career and stuff like that yet because of

00:32:54.620 the whole covid shit like imagine this you have the number one song in the world and you can't 0.64

00:32:59.680 perform it anywhere we were just talking about this in the car the other day leroy's popping 0.99

00:33:03.740 off right someone's like yo he can't even tour he can't go anywhere and same with you you can't 0.93

00:33:07.860 you can't flex that muscle no that sucks can't even show up and perform at a club nothing that's

00:33:12.920 and that's like like real talk that's the thing that that drives me to like put up with all the 0.99

00:33:18.100 bullshit and the politics and the the hollywood and the industry like because i love performing

00:33:22.620 and i love seeing the look on the fans faces when we're singing these songs together and i could tell 0.99

00:33:27.700 they had been through some shit to this song or this song made their day and like we all have

00:33:31.500 different experiences with the song but we're like sharing that moment together and i'm like 0.98

00:33:34.860 well fuck what am i even doing this for sometimes if i can't do that one thing that that that

00:33:40.240 motivates me to do it all but it's just like i know that after it's gonna be crazy nuts it's 0.98

00:33:46.300 gonna be crazy it's gonna be a 1950s all over again the golden age everybody's gonna be coming

00:33:50.580 out the house it's probably end of prohibition yeah type shit i saw you at uh i see you out i 0.81

00:33:55.640 saw you at the that basketball game with jack harlow and all those guys um and so i think it's 0.67

00:34:00.560 coming back around yeah i mean there was like probably like there wasn't that many people

00:34:05.320 outside of things but i'm like no yo i want to be outside again like i'm such an outside like

00:34:10.040 adventurous like exploring type of person like you go on hikes i've been my mom really likes

00:34:15.700 hikes so i go on hikes with her when i like you've been to runyon oh you got that seems i want to

00:34:20.700 take him to runyon today let's go you gotta go hike runyon dude that's like the that's like the

00:34:25.320 la quintessential la quintessential la hike like you always see celebrity like a-list celebrities

00:34:30.100 Hiking it

00:34:30.800 And there's always like 0.72

00:34:31.520 Instagram girls there 1.00

00:34:32.500 Doing squats and shit 0.98

00:34:33.560 It's a fun 0.99

00:34:34.120 It's a fun joint

00:34:35.520 Great views

00:34:36.080 You been to Coachella?

00:34:37.320 Yeah I went to

00:34:38.020 My first Coachella

00:34:38.940 Like the year before last

00:34:40.600 That was crazy

00:34:41.340 Nuts right? 1.00

00:34:42.200 He would have been 1.00

00:34:42.660 Performing this shit 1.00

00:34:43.640 Yeah would you have 1.00

00:34:44.320 Did you get a

00:34:44.880 100%

00:34:45.500 I mean it was

00:34:46.260 It was

00:34:46.780 Everything was up in the air

00:34:47.920 So I don't know

00:34:49.020 But

00:34:49.200 I have to

00:34:49.700 I mean eventually

00:34:50.400 Yeah

00:34:50.960 I'm positive

00:34:51.720 I was

00:34:52.260 That was one of the venues

00:34:53.760 Or events that I was

00:34:54.840 Thoroughly disappointed that

00:34:56.820 Got canceled

00:34:57.440 Yeah

00:34:57.960 Yeah cause that

00:34:58.820 Bro, there's nothing like Coachella.

00:35:00.540 Like, my first time going to Coachella, like, my boy got me, like, artist guest tickets and a Sprinter van down.

00:35:06.340 And we got, like, the Neon Carnival passes.

00:35:08.900 And I'm like, whoa, this is real life?

00:35:11.500 Like, people can actually do this?

00:35:12.900 I've never seen anything like that before.

00:35:14.960 It's our favorite time of year.

00:35:16.120 I mean, it's the one time of year that everybody comes out from all over the world.

00:35:20.040 And, you know, you're rubbing elbows with Leo and Kai.

00:35:23.740 Everybody's in the same spot.

00:35:25.040 You know the whole world

00:35:26.160 It converges on this one

00:35:27.580 Strange area

00:35:28.460 The desert

00:35:29.080 Like the middle of nowhere

00:35:30.240 Little of nowhere

00:35:31.080 The only complaint

00:35:32.180 I got about Coachella

00:35:33.140 Is after like

00:35:33.920 I was like

00:35:34.360 Like hocking up

00:35:35.380 Like dust movies

00:35:36.500 For like two weeks after

00:35:37.860 But it's part of it

00:35:38.820 It's part of the fun

00:35:39.620 And like you know

00:35:40.380 There's some other issues

00:35:41.240 Like you can never

00:35:42.060 Get a ride home

00:35:43.100 From you can never

00:35:43.800 Find a car

00:35:44.220 Oh you had a sprinter

00:35:45.060 Yeah

00:35:45.480 So you were all set

00:35:46.300 We was chilling

00:35:46.680 Yeah

00:35:47.120 Yeah it's tough

00:35:48.040 Burning man

00:35:48.560 You been 0.97

00:35:48.980 Uh uh

00:35:49.540 I feel like I'm too young

00:35:50.440 For that at this point 1.00

00:35:51.260 Might see some shit 0.99

00:35:52.800 I'm not ready for 0.99

00:35:53.440 That's true

00:35:54.320 They do have babies at Burning Man, though.

00:35:55.780 That's true.

00:35:56.280 But they're not even going to remember it, so it's good, yeah.

00:35:58.540 Have you heard stories about Burning Man? 0.99

00:36:00.480 Yeah, it's just like everyone's naked and doing drugs and fucking everywhere. 0.99

00:36:04.820 Yo, there's a thing called the Thunderdome. 1.00

00:36:07.880 The Thunderdome.

00:36:08.920 Two people are strapped in this giant dome to bungee cords, 0.99

00:36:13.080 and they give each other fucking bats. 1.00

00:36:16.120 And mind you, everyone's fucked up. 1.00

00:36:18.200 Acid, psychedelics, molly. 1.00

00:36:19.580 Like every drug via every person.

00:36:22.520 And you can climb up on it. 0.99

00:36:23.940 like the Thunderdome and everyone just, ah, like some real Mad Max shit. 0.99

00:36:28.520 And they just send these people at each other and they beat the shit out of each other with 0.99

00:36:32.340 these, uh, with these bats and batons. 0.84

00:36:34.340 But that also sounds kind of fun.

00:36:35.660 Well, yeah.

00:36:36.160 Especially when you're on psychedelics.

00:36:39.100 It's a lot of fun.

00:36:39.960 It's something to consider.

00:36:41.240 But they also have huge orgies there.

00:36:43.360 Like whole tanks.

00:36:44.340 I mean, I'm just scratching the surface.

00:36:45.680 That's what I'm saying.

00:36:46.500 But I was just going to parlay it into, have you ever had an orgy since you've gone in

00:36:50.300 Hollywood or not? 0.88

00:36:51.120 Well

00:36:52.600 We gonna keep that

00:36:54.140 We gonna keep that for the

00:36:55.240 We gonna save that

00:36:56.260 For the next episode

00:36:57.060 I'll tell you that's fair

00:36:57.820 Fair enough

00:36:58.780 Fair enough

00:36:59.180 I gotta ask bro

00:37:00.320 You know

00:37:00.680 I gotta ask

00:37:01.240 But speaking of that

00:37:02.580 Is there a best part

00:37:03.860 About success? 0.99

00:37:05.080 Girls, cars, money 1.00

00:37:06.320 The fact that you make people smile

00:37:08.240 You can take this

00:37:08.780 Any direction you want

00:37:09.560 Dude

00:37:09.780 You wanna be wholesome

00:37:10.500 Go for it

00:37:11.000 I mean like 0.54

00:37:11.660 Yeah the girls

00:37:12.740 The cars 1.00

00:37:13.160 That shit is cool as fuck 1.00

00:37:15.040 I'm not gonna lie 1.00

00:37:15.760 But that's not like

00:37:16.620 The driving

00:37:17.620 Motivating factor

00:37:18.560 And it's never been

00:37:19.500 I think the fact that

00:37:20.700 i could like literally change people's days or weeks or lives just by like responding to an

00:37:25.340 instagram dm or taking a photo with somebody like i get dms like yo your music saved my life and i'm 0.98

00:37:30.360 like fuck like i know how that feels because i've listened to artists and been like damn this music 0.98

00:37:35.820 is saving my life right now so it's like to be able to do that same shit for somebody else is 0.99

00:37:40.320 is fire but don't get me wrong i love all the extra shit too but i just try not to get caught 0.97

00:37:45.260 up in it i feel that i feel that so much because i always looked at like cuddy and like people like 0.97

00:37:49.120 that like those are the people that like when i was at my darkest shit you know saved me and then

00:37:54.080 i hear people be like yo like your book whatever like made me feel that way like that's always

00:37:58.140 completely trumps all the other shit yeah it's really it's really really cool when your art 0.59

00:38:02.720 transcends just your own aspirations and and can affect other people in that way because like think 0.82

00:38:08.440 about all the artists that you grew up listening to that inspired you to to be in this point today

00:38:12.540 and how you were going on to inspire other kids to to get to whoever the next what xyz is in 20

00:38:18.380 years like it's a cycle uh inspiration it's dope to be a part of it i had this conversation with

00:38:23.240 someone recently i i've been able to meet my idols the ones who inspire me to to start youtube like

00:38:28.980 uh they've made jokes about it before it's smosh back in the day was like i remember yeah they were

00:38:33.480 the reason i began youtube and jake too and they you know i'm sorry and i remember going up to him

00:38:42.920 i was like yo you're you're the guy you're the reason that i started doing this thing i'm waiting

00:38:46.680 for that moment where someone comes up to me and they're like yo I started because of you and

00:38:50.240 they're you know becoming this thing what do you mean you're waiting for that it's all day

00:38:54.000 every day no I'm talking about like a like like someone someone makes it some serious ways and

00:39:01.840 like I could be 40 have you had a moment with uh with an idol or someone that inspired you growing

00:39:06.640 up um like my biggest idols I haven't met yet the Kanye's the Dre actually I met I met one of my

00:39:14.060 pretty big idols asap rocky uh in january and like bro like i didn't say this to him obviously

00:39:20.100 because i you know i was trying to play it cool but like my my instagram name for a long time was

00:39:24.080 asvp golden and i just like i was like yeah i'm gonna be asap ma one day and you know that never

00:39:29.380 ended up happening but when we meet like we freestyle back and forth with each other for

00:39:33.160 like 20 minutes and like he was like yo i like your whole swag kid like i like your energy

00:39:37.440 everything you've got going on and i'm like bro this is this is rocky right here telling me this

00:39:42.980 Like this man is bagged up Rihanna

00:39:44.900 And he sees something in me

00:39:46.780 Like that's just dope validation

00:39:48.860 That I'm like doing the right thing

00:39:50.220 And going down the right path

00:39:51.280 But until I meet like Drake and Kanye

00:39:53.460 Those are like the last few ones

00:39:56.220 On my bucket list for sure

00:39:57.280 Bruno Mars too

00:39:58.160 Asap's a good start bro

00:39:59.700 I mean like bro

00:40:01.240 There's no swaggier man than Rocky bro

00:40:04.620 Yeah

00:40:04.940 I'll just put it out there 1.00

00:40:06.380 And say no swaggier human being 1.00

00:40:07.660 I don't think there is bro 0.77

00:40:09.180 I don't think there is

00:40:10.200 It could be truth

00:40:10.980 But eventually you know

00:40:12.500 you're going to get to a point where you're going to tell them that.

00:40:15.180 Yeah.

00:40:15.560 Tell them that you had the Instagram account.

00:40:17.060 Yeah.

00:40:17.420 You know,

00:40:18.020 you know,

00:40:18.760 we got to just get a couple more hangs in there,

00:40:21.220 but I don't know.

00:40:21.940 I'm,

00:40:22.240 I'm a little bit scared to meet some of my idols too,

00:40:24.620 because,

00:40:25.420 you know,

00:40:25.660 people say like,

00:40:26.360 yo,

00:40:26.640 don't meet your idols.

00:40:27.480 It's going to disappoint you.

00:40:28.900 Or now I'm at the place where some of my idols are my rivals and stuff like

00:40:32.520 that.

00:40:32.860 Like,

00:40:33.640 and,

00:40:33.880 and that's kind of scary too.

00:40:34.920 Cause I'm like,

00:40:35.480 nah,

00:40:35.680 don't be mad at me for like blocking you from the number one.

00:40:38.040 Like,

00:40:38.500 I'm sorry.

00:40:39.260 Like,

00:40:39.720 can we be friends?

00:40:40.660 You know?

00:40:40.880 that's crazy that's so funny dude i think a lot of uh i think a lot of artists are cool i'll go

00:40:47.860 ahead and say it like musicians anyways especially especially if you're speaking to them as a as a

00:40:52.400 peer yeah like um i think that saying don't meet meet your idols may apply to you know the layman

00:40:58.600 the average the average person because who knows how a celebrity is going to react when you go up

00:41:02.560 to them sure but if you're coming to them you know eye to eye as someone else who's who's done it and

00:41:06.820 has garnered their respect you'll be good but even yeah i feel like you're right but i'm still

00:41:12.720 kind of iffy on that because like i think most of the situations where i would meet those people

00:41:16.600 like i didn't get to experience because of covid you know the award shows and the stuff like that

00:41:21.320 so in my mind i'm still like i still see myself as just like yo i'm golden landis von jones like

00:41:26.920 i got these big songs but like i don't understand how people perceive me yeah basically yeah well

00:41:33.800 No, bro, I mean, even our interaction saw you. 0.62

00:41:35.820 I was like, oh, bro, I fucking know this kid. 0.67

00:41:37.240 I'm not going to act like, you know, I don't know his music or anything. 0.95

00:41:41.220 And it was a peer-to-peer interaction.

00:41:43.720 Yeah.

00:41:43.960 And it worked.

00:41:44.460 Bro, people know you.

00:41:45.420 Yeah. 1.00

00:41:45.560 And if anyone tries to big up you or act like they don't, like, fuck off. 1.00

00:41:48.800 They probably won't. 1.00

00:41:49.700 That's so lame.

00:41:49.800 They probably won't either, though.

00:41:51.360 Like, the majority, like he said, for the most part, like, artists out there are cool.

00:41:55.800 You know what I'm saying?

00:41:56.460 Like, because there's a lot of genres that you could fake being cool.

00:42:00.440 You know what I'm saying?

00:42:01.280 Like, music's not really one of them.

00:42:03.800 bro like if you like there's some people out there who really fake the funk like in a major way

00:42:08.060 but like for the most part if you're putting out dope music you got a dope image like you got a lot

00:42:12.060 of dope qualities you're probably a dope person in real life you know and so like all the people

00:42:15.660 that i've met from the music scene have been really fucking cool i don't think anybody's

00:42:19.220 gonna come up to you and be like oh no sorry i don't know who you are true yeah no one's been 0.97

00:42:22.080 like a total dick but it's just like that little voice in the back of your head it's like ah what 0.97

00:42:25.880 if you know it's i mean you got no beefs yet it's not as far as i don't know i don't know hopefully 0.99

00:42:31.700 no one's out there beefing with me the the drake sighting is is have you been in the same room as

00:42:36.320 yeah but it was like way before any like songs were like popping up crazy like that we we were

00:42:41.660 at a party one time and he came in and i look at him the same kind of same way you do i'm not in 0.99

00:42:45.460 music but fucking goat right and uh he's a big motherfucker dude like now especially like he's 0.99

00:42:51.960 he bulked up a lot yeah in a good way yeah and so when he walked in the room like it's almost like 0.99

00:42:58.420 you know maybe he's like 6'1

00:43:00.880 but when you see him he's like 7'2

00:43:02.940 you know what I'm saying like he just got that

00:43:04.800 air about him that you're just like 1.00

00:43:06.820 oh damn that's fucking Drake 0.99

00:43:08.420 it's the presence like Young Thug is another person 1.00

00:43:10.700 like that man is just like

00:43:12.400 so legendary and he can be so nice 1.00

00:43:14.520 but it's still like yo this motherfucker's like 0.99

00:43:16.520 6'4 and there's like 1.00

00:43:17.840 he's Young Thug you know it's like

00:43:20.360 there's a certain air of presence that comes with that

00:43:22.860 Future's a big dude too right

00:43:24.300 yeah yeah he's pretty tall there was a time in Hollywood

00:43:26.400 and you would hear about this growing up

00:43:28.660 where the celebrities,

00:43:30.280 the biggest ones in the world were shorter, right?

00:43:33.200 Like, you know, five foot three, five.

00:43:35.040 Like how tall is Tom Cruise?

00:43:36.000 I would always hear this back in Ohio.

00:43:37.900 You know, Tom Cruise is 5'4".

00:43:39.600 And I'm like, wow, I have a chance.

00:43:41.120 You're tall, right?

00:43:41.800 You're like 5'11", 6'2".

00:43:42.960 And I'm like 6'1", 6'2".

00:43:44.160 But everyone thinks I'm shorter on Instagram.

00:43:45.900 It's so funny.

00:43:46.480 I thought you were too.

00:43:47.400 Yeah.

00:43:47.800 It's like, that's like one of like

00:43:48.960 when people meet with me this first time, 0.98

00:43:50.260 they're like, oh damn, you're taller than I thought you'd be. 0.98

00:43:52.600 And I'm like, what do I gotta, 0.99

00:43:53.740 how do I gotta angle my pictures

00:43:55.000 to like change this narrative, you know?

00:43:57.300 No, it's tough.

00:43:57.980 But it's good because in real life,

00:44:00.160 you know, you're this larger-than-life entertainer

00:44:02.780 and then you take up a lot of space physically as well.

00:44:06.380 So I remember the first time I saw Elon Musk,

00:44:08.640 this dude is like, I think he's like 6'4". 0.99

00:44:10.980 Oh, damn. 0.99

00:44:11.680 I thought he was shorter too, yeah. 0.99

00:44:13.280 He's 6'4".

00:44:13.960 He looked 7'7".

00:44:16.120 And he took up the whole aisle.

00:44:18.000 He had a big trench coat on. 1.00

00:44:19.320 I was like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:44:20.840 That's Elon fucking Musk. 1.00

00:44:22.260 Where'd you see him at? 0.99

00:44:22.960 It was underground, the Staple Center for a UFC fight 0.96

00:44:27.040 Damn

00:44:27.520 You ever think you're gonna do a collab with Elon Musk? 0.99

00:44:29.440 I would love to be the first artist to get a SpaceX deal 0.99

00:44:32.740 Like, let me shoot a music video in space and fuck it 0.99

00:44:35.620 That'd be crazy 1.00

00:44:36.300 You know who almost had that?

00:44:37.500 Who? 1.00

00:44:37.920 Lady Gaga 0.96

00:44:38.680 That makes sense

00:44:39.840 Lady Gaga almost did the first performance in space via Virgin Galactic

00:44:44.620 Oh, like the ones that go up into the

00:44:48.040 It would just have gone around

00:44:50.780 Got it

00:44:51.120 The whole earth?

00:44:52.140 uh sorry it would have gone into the atmosphere not the moon obviously but not the earth space

00:44:59.620 yeah the occupants would have watched lady gaga performance space floating around like i don't

00:45:04.080 know how that would work but one of the uh side note one of the ships during testing crash and

00:45:09.360 that whole operation uh that would have been a tragedy it's quarter million dollars for a ticket

00:45:14.180 quarter would you would you yeah well i've seen those there's ones where you could go up into

00:45:18.400 space and get that zero grav experience you this is space space space virgin galactic not virgin

00:45:23.840 wait hold on a sec so we because i was actually ironically with our last guest thinking about

00:45:27.980 this yesterday would you pay like a a large amount of money to go to the moon like i mean yeah and i 0.96

00:45:34.680 don't mean go into space like how much would you would you pay to go to to the fucking moon like 0.90

00:45:40.640 they're like yo we're gonna have you come up and perform a new single you could be the first one 0.97

00:45:43.820 But it's going to cost you

00:45:44.720 I'm going to let them say the number first

00:45:48.020 And negotiate down from there

00:45:49.340 That's a smart play 0.95

00:45:52.400 Let them toss it out

00:45:53.340 Yeah find some brand sponsors

00:45:54.660 Get the whole thing comped

00:45:56.420 I love it dude

00:45:57.480 It needs to happen

00:45:59.500 I would love to

00:46:00.280 That's like my dream

00:46:00.980 Your name

00:46:01.940 Yes

00:46:02.660 How

00:46:03.100 So my real name is Golden

00:46:05.720 Like Golden Landis Fon Jones

00:46:07.440 That's your real name?

00:46:08.920 That's my birth name

00:46:09.660 Oh okay

00:46:10.300 Birth certificate everything

00:46:11.060 Alright

00:46:11.340 but um so i was born in the year 2000 as we discussed before and on the chinese zodiac

00:46:17.640 calendar that is the year of the golden dragon and there's a dragon year every 12 years but every 60

00:46:23.640 years is a special golden dragon so everyone born in 2000 whether you know it or not is a golden

00:46:29.180 dragon and um growing up in san francisco you know there's a lot of chinese culture and heritage

00:46:35.160 there and my dad some of his friends and co-workers like oh you got a golden dragon baby that's lucky

00:46:39.640 maybe you should name him golden and my dad was like that ain't a bad idea at all you know and

00:46:45.500 he went and he told my mom and uh she was like no there's no way we'll do that kids are gonna

00:46:50.680 make fun of him they're gonna call him goldilocks they're gonna call him golden showers like we

00:46:55.660 can't do that and my dad was like no you're just you're tripping don't worry so much like

00:46:59.740 that's a good name and she was like all right i'll think about it and um my dad like as like

00:47:06.000 meditation you know therapeutic he liked to drive by the beach and watch the sunset because you know

00:47:10.340 right in san francisco we got the beautiful ocean beach and he was driving by one day looking out

00:47:15.160 over the sunset and he turned the radio on and this song the golden time of day came on and he

00:47:20.060 was looking over the sunset and it was like the most beautiful golden colored sunset that he had 0.99

00:47:24.340 ever seen and he's not one to ignore the signs so he told my mom like yo this shit just happened 0.91

00:47:31.200 these are the signs we gotta name him golden and she was like okay fine and boom it kind of was 0.90

00:47:36.740 the best thing that ever happened to me that's awesome yeah that's awesome but 24 carats so

00:47:41.460 that's so many carats a lot of carats it's the most carat by the way are you wearing jewelry

00:47:45.920 okay this is 24k right here okay fire this is the el dorado quetzalcato chain actually but um that's

00:47:51.940 tight so in in the jewelry world like you know there's 14k 18k 24 carats is the most pure you

00:47:57.920 can get like that's 24 out of 24 gold and me me being an artist like at first you know i was going

00:48:03.820 by asvp gold and i'm like all right i'm not i'm gonna get a season desist eventually i can't do

00:48:08.180 that so then i dropped it and i was just golden and golden was too hard to find like you search 0.84

00:48:12.720 up golden on youtube you get fucking golden state warriors highlights you get golden dragon chinese 0.72

00:48:17.180 golden taco exactly you get it was bad for seo so i'm like all right let me figure out what else i 0.94

00:48:23.740 can do and um i just i i was a big i'm still am but i'm big into jewelry i was big into jewelry

00:48:30.080 and i'm like well if 24 karats is the most pure form of gold and me being an artist and making

00:48:35.540 art is the most pure form of golden i should just be 24k golden and then i went to go put it in on

00:48:40.860 instagram and somebody already had the name taken so i had to drop the e and that's why there's no e

00:48:45.480 wait hold on a second now you're talking about well you well you search that i have to say

00:48:51.120 You are, you probably are the only rapper in the world that considered SEO purposes.

00:48:56.100 When he said SEO, that is why he cannot lose.

00:48:59.700 Search engine optimization considers what's going to pop up when you search Google.

00:49:04.120 Nah, dude, like you can't lose at that point.

00:49:06.280 If you're, if you're in the digital age, considering SEO before you name yourself, you already won.

00:49:11.180 You already won, dog.

00:49:12.320 It's over, bro.

00:49:13.420 You see?

00:49:15.000 Okay.

00:49:16.100 That was my senior picture right there.

00:49:17.800 Right here.

00:49:18.020 Yeah.

00:49:19.760 That's fantastic.

00:49:21.120 That was actually your picture?

00:49:22.620 Yeah, I never paid for it, but that was the- 0.97

00:49:25.120 Wait, the water fucking marks are still on it. 0.96

00:49:28.800 Order now. 0.99

00:49:29.440 Incredible.

00:49:30.100 I might get a season desist for that.

00:49:31.280 No way, no way.

00:49:33.280 All right, all right, so cool, bro.

00:49:35.040 And you got a watch on?

00:49:36.760 Oh, yeah, right here.

00:49:37.840 Well, what's on that one?

00:49:38.960 This is some bracelets.

00:49:39.840 Oh, okay, okay.

00:49:41.160 Oh, nice, bro.

00:49:41.960 Have you seen this?

00:49:42.540 The Bitcoin watch?

00:49:43.980 What?

00:49:44.700 Hey, check it out.

00:49:45.320 What brand is it?

00:49:46.500 Frank Mueller.

00:49:47.180 I saw it at first. 0.99

00:49:47.880 I was like, is that fucking Richard Millions? 0.99

00:49:49.360 You got Bitcoin? 0.99

00:49:50.460 I got a couple here and there.

00:49:51.920 You do any other crypto investing?

00:49:54.340 I'm a big Dogecoin enthusiast for sure.

00:49:56.160 No way.

00:49:56.880 Come on, man.

00:49:57.520 Why?

00:49:57.960 Because I was on it like on like the Reddit forums and stuff like that.

00:50:00.780 Like before it was even one cent, you know?

00:50:02.960 So I got in hella early.

00:50:04.500 It's just like the people's currency.

00:50:05.980 It's the meme currency.

00:50:06.880 It's the currency of the internet. 0.99

00:50:08.180 Bitcoin and all this shit, it's cool. 0.97

00:50:10.100 But I think it's cool. 0.96

00:50:11.980 It's cool.

00:50:12.600 You went the whole opposite way.

00:50:14.320 I love it.

00:50:15.040 It's cool.

00:50:15.380 It's all right, but Dogecoin.

00:50:16.560 But you know, that one is going to be the more like mainstream currency.

00:50:19.860 Like financial institutions are messing with it

00:50:21.900 Let me ask you something

00:50:23.420 You know any amount of Dogecoin

00:50:26.160 Can be minted at any moment in time

00:50:28.000 What does that mean?

00:50:28.740 Like they can just make more

00:50:29.920 Cool

00:50:30.820 Not cool

00:50:33.360 They can completely deflate your investment

00:50:36.140 Because they can just create as many as they want

00:50:37.820 So they can steal your money

00:50:40.160 The Dogecoin creators

00:50:42.140 Who made it as a joke

00:50:43.500 I got faith in the people

00:50:46.100 Regardless

00:50:47.300 It has no utility

00:50:49.420 It's not an actual thing.

00:50:51.220 It's not.

00:50:51.840 Yeah. 0.94

00:50:52.240 So, I mean, Ethereum, none of this shit had any purpose before. 0.97

00:50:54.340 By the way, listen, I'm with you. 0.98

00:50:56.160 Doge to the moon.

00:50:57.140 Doge to the moon.

00:50:57.660 I'm a holder, bro.

00:50:58.460 I'm not saying I'm not.

00:50:59.220 What I am saying is, I don't know, like, you're starting to see massive institutions

00:51:03.780 and companies get behind Bitcoin and Ethereum.

00:51:06.060 Yeah.

00:51:06.640 Because they know it's like an actual, like, chain-based solution to finance and currency,

00:51:12.700 right?

00:51:13.220 Dogecoin is like a ton of fun.

00:51:15.740 I like that fun, bro.

00:51:16.980 I like that.

00:51:17.780 Come on.

00:51:18.160 it's almost like they it's almost like they created a currency out of fun yeah they're like

00:51:22.800 yo you like fun invest in this coin like i like fun why not you know you're lucky man i i didn't

00:51:28.920 i didn't have good financial advisors or mentors until i was like maybe 23 well i used to want to

00:51:37.440 be a hedge fund manager i thought i was going to be a hedge fund manager no way yeah like that was

00:51:40.820 my whole like plan like i got a full scholarship to usc to study business what and um because one

00:51:46.780 of like like my mom's friends like our family friend like from a kid i didn't grow up with a

00:51:51.120 lot of money at all like i'm from one of the most wealthy cities in america san francisco but i grew

00:51:55.900 up in one of the like least wealthy parts you know so i got to see a lot of wealth but not experience

00:52:00.860 it and that drove me to be hungry to you know do something to change my lifestyle and my family's

00:52:06.540 lifestyle but one of our like family friends was a hedge fund manager and i love going over to their 0.93

00:52:10.800 house like i was like yo this shit is dope like i want this for me and my family and i never met 0.85

00:52:16.060 anybody that achieved that type of success before so i was like all right i'm a smart kid like i 0.97

00:52:20.720 could do whatever i put my mind to this is what i'm gonna do but i remember when i was like 15 i

00:52:25.100 got my ears pierced and i went over to their house and he was like yo let me tell you something bro

00:52:30.760 like just being honest with you like me personally i have no problem against your ear piercing but 0.62

00:52:35.020 you're already a black kid trying to break into this like very you know classist and like kind 0.97

00:52:42.120 a fucked up industry like they're looking for any reason to disqualify you and if you have your 0.98

00:52:46.920 ears pierced that's someone can write you off as you know whatever without even fully understanding 0.98

00:52:51.400 you so i was like at that point like i don't want to work a job where i can't be myself where i can't

00:52:56.660 express myself and then uh so that became kind of like the backup plan and when i went to usc for 0.58

00:53:01.660 business i was just like all right i'm gonna study this shit i'm gonna learn as much as i can and

00:53:05.800 it'll probably help me somewhere in my artist career it will yeah you could still do that down 0.80

00:53:09.620 the line yeah i mean i didn't even fully drop out like i gotta leave absence so i can go back

00:53:13.360 whenever i want fucking way how long you go for like a year you finished that was that's happened 0.78

00:53:20.120 a lot and i feel like it's i feel like it's any second gonna happen to mine too i'm sturdy over 0.96

00:53:25.020 here you finished your first year well all right so this is how i played it this is how i played

00:53:28.620 well first semester you know i got like a 3.56 whatever rapper and student at the same time

00:53:34.620 second semester i got signed already so i had money and i tried to like finish off the year 0.71

00:53:40.540 strong but at a certain point i was just like fucked bro i can't be a incredible student and

00:53:45.980 an incredible artist at the same time it's hard i gotta pick one but i didn't have enough money 0.96

00:53:50.880 that i could just be like all right let me just go ball out on a crazy crib and whatever now so

00:53:55.100 i dropped all my classes except this one class that was like called link learn about international

00:54:00.480 commerce and you go to the class once a week for two hours and at the end of the semester you get

00:54:05.940 to go travel to the country that you learned about so i was like all right i still get to

00:54:09.700 live on campus for free i still get to eat all the cafeteria for free i just got to go to this

00:54:14.260 one class and at the end of the semester i get a free trip too so it's kind of like a win on

00:54:18.880 every front you know i know it's so funny about that what that's how i look at this podcast

00:54:22.820 what do you mean i'm like if i just keep doing this podcast i get to live in this house for free

00:54:26.940 At the end of the semester

00:54:28.220 I'm kidding man

00:54:31.040 I love you so much

00:54:32.400 I'm just playing

00:54:33.260 I'm playing

00:54:33.700 What was your country gonna be 0.96

00:54:35.160 That you're gonna go to

00:54:35.500 I went to Japan

00:54:36.080 I got to go to Tokyo

00:54:36.880 Oh great city

00:54:37.580 That was my first time

00:54:38.140 Out the country

00:54:38.440 Had a lot of fun there

00:54:39.340 Yeah but it was good 1.00

00:54:40.140 That shit was like 1.00

00:54:40.580 Being in a Pokemon game 1.00

00:54:41.680 And like being in the future

00:54:42.680 At the same time

00:54:43.400 Great place

00:54:43.860 We would love to go there

00:54:45.100 Anytime soon

00:54:45.860 Have you been before

00:54:47.080 Oh man

00:54:48.060 Oh was this a sore subject

00:54:51.660 No

00:54:52.200 Oh yeah

00:54:53.160 Yeah yeah yeah

00:54:54.100 Oh yeah yeah yeah

00:54:55.440 I forgot about that

00:54:56.480 Hey, you know, let me tell you something 0.99

00:54:58.500 It's inspiring to see like how bad you fucked up 0.99

00:55:01.460 But you're still here 0.99

00:55:02.360 That just makes me feel a lot better whenever I fuck up 0.94

00:55:05.560 Thank you, thank you 0.63

00:55:06.220 Well, honestly, if that's like the takeaway

00:55:08.360 And that's what I was put on this earth to do

00:55:10.680 In one regard

00:55:13.340 To teach people that you can

00:55:14.900 You can quite literally shoot yourself in the foot 0.96

00:55:18.080 Yeah 0.99

00:55:18.480 And half of your face off

00:55:20.680 Yeah

00:55:20.940 And still come back

00:55:21.860 Yeah

00:55:22.120 Like, so be it

00:55:22.920 Like, if I gotta be the beacon, so be it

00:55:24.840 That is the biggest lesson you ever learn in life.

00:55:26.840 And trust me, there's nothing that the audience, that the people want to see more and can relate to more. 0.99

00:55:33.140 Because most of the people out there are going through shit. 0.99

00:55:36.120 Most of the people out there are suffering. 1.00

00:55:37.600 Most of the people in some way, whether mental, financial, whatever.

00:55:41.500 And that idea of having a downfall and then a trajectory back up is like, that's everything, yo.

00:55:48.240 That's what inspires people more than anything else.

00:55:50.200 The comeback is like so much like the come up is very inspiring. 0.99

00:55:53.640 but to come back oh that shit is like damn you was up and down and back up again like well because 0.99

00:55:58.980 that's crazy when you're at that rock bottom it's only up from there true like i i noticed i am 1.00

00:56:04.740 actually more excited for my failures than i am my wins i don't really care about my wins anymore

00:56:09.320 bro i i was told i was fighting floyd mayweather very excited cool right but like after the moment 0.97

00:56:14.740 i go back to just doing whatever the fuck i'm doing when you fuck up and fail on a level like 0.97

00:56:19.880 that you have to re-evaluate and with that re-evaluation comes positive change comes a new 0.99

00:56:26.940 you potentially a new identity new goals aspirations and a way to get there and that's fun so that's

00:56:32.100 exciting shit what were some of like the growth and lessons you feel like you learned from that

00:56:35.560 so many so many um so the the analogy i i use is uh some somewhere in my life i hit a fork in the 0.97

00:56:44.800 road. And I, and I went down the wrong path. I don't know if it was like my intentions were

00:56:50.820 wrong. I was letting the wrong motives fuel me, whatever it was. I just like, I don't know. I

00:56:57.020 couldn't see what was happening. And I just had to reverse my life. And I did so by trying

00:57:02.400 everything, listening to people, talking to people around me, bringing him on board. You know, I

00:57:06.400 didn't have a mentor or a big brother. I was, I'm the big brother. And so I just, I just started

00:57:14.280 listening to people around me and to the world and uh being being a real student of the environment

00:57:20.200 and and it changed me in a way where you know i'm really happy with the person that i became and

00:57:25.300 am becoming still to this day because you know it's it's all a work in progress facts so funny

00:57:30.640 the guests that come on this uh podcast i think it's two or three now they're like have you been

00:57:34.180 to tokyo we love it so i mean that says something too that like it wasn't that long ago and most

00:57:40.480 people kind of forgot that already well i think i've i'll go ahead and say i've given uh i've

00:57:46.320 given them a decent amount of reasons to forget and it's not like i'm trying to make them forget

00:57:51.100 like it's an important pivotal part of my journey and you know i'm all for taking accountability for

00:57:56.140 my actions like in the past present and future yeah and uh i'm here to acknowledge it acknowledge

00:58:02.660 the growth that it helped me uh do and move on keep on trucking man because this is yeah of

00:58:08.240 Of course, because honestly, as long as you so cliche, if you if you don't give up, it's really hard to stop you.

00:58:15.140 Yeah. Like if you're fucking relentless and refusing to let other people tell you who they think you are when they don't know you. 0.93

00:58:22.980 Yeah. It's going to be really hard to stop that person who abides by that. 0.98

00:58:26.900 Yeah. And that's what happened with me. I'm inspired.

00:58:30.000 Thank you. I could tell you ain't going to make no mistakes, though.

00:58:32.900 No, no, no. Everybody makes mistakes. Don't don't pay me to be this superhero because when I fuck up, you know,

00:58:38.240 it's it's gonna happen eventually you grew up in a you grew up in an era where uh correct me if i'm 0.97

00:58:44.620 wrong where what you had people like me making the first round of mistakes cancel culture just

00:58:49.040 blooming blossoming whatever you you kind of got a good idea of what was wrong and what was right

00:58:55.580 from social because correct i would say for the most part like me i i definitely read into things

00:59:02.760 more than the average person but there's a lot of people out there they get attention for doing

00:59:06.520 things that aren't necessarily right too so just as there's people that are seeing something wrong

00:59:10.780 and being like oh i shouldn't do that there's also going to be those kids out there that are 0.96

00:59:13.920 seeing like damn this shit got a hundred million views i'm gonna go do that you know it's yeah it 0.98

00:59:18.180 all just kind of depends on how you interpret it i think i think i guess what i'm saying is like 0.99

00:59:21.760 social media i think decreased ignorance yeah it's just more information out there exactly i 0.90

00:59:28.420 was ignorant it's fucking hell growing up because i mean no offense to my parents but there's a lot 0.70

00:59:34.200 of things they didn't tell me yeah and a lot of things that i just didn't know and now social 0.98

00:59:38.140 media even just listening to this podcast or any podcast which didn't exist 10 years ago so much

00:59:44.240 information so many things to learn from and uh you definitely grew up in that generation where

00:59:48.700 like when you were in high school i'm sure you had instagram and yeah youtube i like instagram

00:59:53.520 like seventh grade or something that's crazy to me that's crazy i got senior high school year

00:59:59.060 senior high school my my friends forced me to get it because i was just on vine yeah did did

01:00:03.960 did the likes affect you at all um probably less than most people but it's now like i don't know

01:00:13.100 a lot of the things that didn't bother me before started bothering me more once i got more money

01:00:19.580 and fame and stuff like that which is kind of backwards you know because you think like well

01:00:22.940 you didn't have anything before so it shouldn't bother you as much now but i don't know it's

01:00:27.100 something weird that happens and it's like like like i remember there was time like if i didn't

01:00:31.500 hit the 10% engagement rule on Instagram, I'm like, oh, I'm fucking up. Like, what am I doing

01:00:36.580 wrong? And I kind of just had to readjust and reframe and be like, yo, if, if one person sees

01:00:42.200 this post and it brings joy to them or it teaches them something or it inspires them, that's what

01:00:48.080 really matters. Not, not the, the satisfaction I'm getting from making some, you know, beating

01:00:55.420 something in the algorithm, like fuck with that. You know, you know, it's cause we talk about this 0.99

01:01:00.080 a lot all the time especially having like creators on the show but you said it was funny how once

01:01:05.140 you got money and you got fame and all that stuff like you started caring about the social metrics

01:01:09.680 more which seems backwards but in actuality that's when those metrics started to make the most be the 0.95

01:01:17.600 most important too because that's what fucks with your bag bro you know what i'm saying and so like 0.99

01:01:21.320 all those views all those listens all those downloads all those likes all that shit it's 0.99

01:01:24.880 part of the same engine that pays you yeah and at the end of the day when for me at least when 0.98

01:01:29.180 something starts fucking with my money then i gotta pay attention to it you know what i'm saying

01:01:32.580 and so like it's not really that odd to start caring more once you go into the industry of 0.98

01:01:38.180 social media to make a living off of you know what i'm saying or or artistry it's it's like

01:01:42.500 this toxic cycle though you know it's gross it's so gross it's toxic but it's part of the game and

01:01:47.620 it's like yo you're not going to be a successful artist or creator or whatever these days without

01:01:51.960 having a social media following like except the ones who can wild think about think about what

01:01:58.340 artists or people have come up in the last five years without using social media Kendrick Lamar

01:02:04.560 no he came up in 2012 Frank Ocean came up in like I'm talking about in the last four years

01:02:10.700 because 2017 is even way different you know landscape than it is now on social media like

01:02:16.140 I think Playboy Cardi is the last mysterious artist that's going to be that level of successful

01:02:22.100 but even like but even with even those artists without you may say like you know uh kendrick or

01:02:29.380 or cole or whatever was without social but cole obviously further back but like kendrick for

01:02:34.480 example like well who knows what he was aided by on reddit posts and facebook you know what i'm

01:02:39.420 saying like it wasn't coming from him though right correct nowadays you can't just be an artist you

01:02:44.540 have to be a creator you have to be a tick tocker you have to be a youtuber or at least that's what

01:02:49.300 it feels like there's a reason why bill gates puts videos out you know what i'm saying like you think 0.91

01:02:53.900 bill gates need gives a shit what anybody fucking think but he's making content yeah you know like 0.98

01:02:59.200 i think i don't know if bezos does but like nah he got too much bread he don't give a fuck about 0.99

01:03:03.820 but even like elon right for example elon doesn't really he don't have to say shit 0.97

01:03:07.820 i like how elon plays with it though because he's having fun for him and it's boosting his every 0.57

01:03:13.460 time he makes a wave it boosts projects he's working on so everybody is harnessing the power

01:03:18.400 of social media but i don't think i think if he didn't have as much money as he had right now he

01:03:23.140 probably would be a lot more careful and like scared of like what to post because there's this

01:03:28.980 weird like in between period of like starting to get money and being like filthy rich it's called 0.99

01:03:34.460 it's called fuck you money yeah elon has fuck you money he could say whatever he wants whenever he 1.00

01:03:41.280 wants to his investors to his shareholders to whoever the fuck he wants and he does it yeah 1.00

01:03:45.300 elon don't tell people that you're taking the company private again he's he'll say whatever 0.98

01:03:50.340 he wants doesn't care about that he's said so many things about going private public this doing that 0.89

01:03:55.880 doing and his advisors say yo don't do this and he does whatever the fuck he wants because he has 0.99

01:03:59.920 fuck you money yeah you know and and the how much money that equates to being fuck you money changes 1.00

01:04:07.840 by the like who knows what it's going to be tomorrow you know now it's like a billion you 1.00

01:04:11.920 what i'm saying like it's crazy i don't even think you need like a billion but like yeah a couple

01:04:15.460 hundred like i mean even 20 million is is like you can you can if you put your money aside the

01:04:21.020 right way you can live a very comfortable lifestyle for the rest of your life and still

01:04:26.120 provide for your kids for sure like the best analogy i like to say is like you know in the

01:04:29.440 game 21 the basketball game right how you get points and once you get past like 13 or whatever

01:04:34.280 you can't go below 13 but if you're at 12 bro you can lose it all you know and it's and it's

01:04:40.080 And it's being at that, you know, 10 to 12 range, that's the scariest because you're up so much, but you can have it all kind of crumble away at any moment's notice, it feels like.

01:04:50.300 Yeah, you're, no, you're right.

01:04:51.520 If you get to a certain point in life, like you rolled over into some modest investments, you're Gucci.

01:04:56.220 You know what I'm saying?

01:04:56.800 Like you, you got 20 mil, you pull, you pull 8% on it annually, 8, 10%.

01:05:02.500 That's a million and a half a year, dog, of just, of just all your living expenses, everything that you got to pay for. 0.98

01:05:07.400 The way you think about things, bro, is you are fucking way ahead of your age, bro. 0.98

01:05:13.200 I'm just here to spill the sauce that was spilled on me and keep it going. 1.00

01:05:16.480 Crazy.

01:05:17.140 I got a game, dude.

01:05:18.400 We do games on this show.

01:05:19.380 It's called More Than 240.

01:05:20.740 Oh.

01:05:21.300 Okay, so that's the character limit on Twitter, right?

01:05:24.420 So these are some of the tweets that you've tweeted.

01:05:27.060 And I'm just going to pick your brain.

01:05:28.700 I want to know what you meant.

01:05:29.920 All right, let's go.

01:05:30.720 All right, let's go.

01:05:31.220 Here we go.

01:05:33.080 Maybe I don't want to belong to the streets anymore.

01:05:35.200 You know, I was hoping you brought this one up because this is something I want to address.

01:05:38.900 Look, I've said on numerous occasions, I belong to the streets.

01:05:43.620 I belong to the streets.

01:05:45.040 And, you know, that's more of like a defense mechanism than anything.

01:05:48.140 Because, yeah, like I don't have a girlfriend, whatever.

01:05:51.420 But it's hard, bro.

01:05:53.540 Like my days are so packed that I feel like I don't have the time and emotional capacity to really give somebody and to be the best boyfriend I could possibly be.

01:06:03.300 Join the club, man.

01:06:04.400 Oh, yeah, we know.

01:06:06.200 And I'm scared of being hurt, too, bro. 0.99

01:06:08.960 It's a lot easier to be in the streets than it is to, like, if you do find the time or make the time to give it to this one person and then they hurt you, bro, y'all know that shit hurts. 0.99

01:06:18.760 And I'm scared. 0.99

01:06:19.940 I'm honestly scared as fuck of being hurt. 0.94

01:06:22.100 And I'm scared of losing, you know, something that I had. 0.93

01:06:26.200 So it's like if I never had it in the first place, then I can't lose it.

01:06:29.780 But now I'm kind of getting to this point where it's like, I'm kind of tired of just the meaningless encounters and stuff like that.

01:06:37.400 Like, I want someone with some substance.

01:06:39.080 Yeah.

01:06:39.380 Good luck, man.

01:06:40.280 Yeah.

01:06:40.580 You're in L.A.

01:06:41.020 Especially here.

01:06:41.900 Also, I was going to say this. 0.99

01:06:44.780 There's no way you fuck with girls your age or get along with and can have those captivating conversations. 1.00

01:06:51.480 I'm just saying you're talking like a fucking 30-year-old. 1.00

01:06:53.420 Yeah, I get along better with older women for sure. 1.00

01:06:55.620 Yeah, yeah.

01:06:56.120 All right, all right. 1.00

01:06:56.860 But a lot of older women are, like, scared to, like, fuck with a 20-year-old, too, you know? 1.00

01:07:00.560 Absolutely. 0.99

01:07:01.440 Well, because girls like older guys. 0.89

01:07:02.820 You know what I'm saying? 0.53

01:07:03.300 And that puts you in a really rough spot because the only thing younger than you that's legal is 18.

01:07:09.160 So you all get 18, 19.

01:07:10.380 That's it.

01:07:10.640 Yeah.

01:07:11.520 But anyways, don't be scared to get vulnerable.

01:07:15.160 If George was with us today, our poor, poor fallen Mike co-host over there.

01:07:20.480 Where is he?

01:07:21.160 I'm going to be honest.

01:07:22.020 He never responded either.

01:07:23.260 Dog, I'm going to be honest.

01:07:23.660 I don't think people told him.

01:07:24.880 He called me.

01:07:25.660 He said, what's going on?

01:07:27.420 And I said, there's a podcast.

01:07:28.960 He goes, it's wet.

01:07:29.960 Yeah, I don't think anybody told him.

01:07:31.220 I don't think anybody told him. 1.00

01:07:31.940 It's pretty fucked up. 0.99

01:07:33.020 But what he would say, I will channel his good Christian energy over here. 0.99

01:07:37.600 And I will say, don't be scared to get vulnerable.

01:07:40.400 But unlike other people, just take it slow. 1.00

01:07:42.780 Feel the chick out. 1.00

01:07:44.760 Make sure she's down to ride for you. 1.00

01:07:46.300 Like really, like not on some like clout or like fame type shit. 0.98

01:07:49.220 Because the city is wacky. 0.97

01:07:50.680 But don't be scared. 0.99

01:07:52.160 Because yo, also like if you bend through some shit, like you're going to survive a breakup. 0.98

01:07:55.420 What's your like test 0.97

01:07:56.920 Like what are your like criteria for you guys

01:07:59.200 That like alright this girl is solid

01:08:00.600 She's not just another

01:08:01.580 I made a list, you have a list?

01:08:04.060 I don't have a list, I need to work on one 1.00

01:08:05.880 Girlfriend qualities is like 14 0.97

01:08:07.740 Pretty much impossible to actually

01:08:09.860 Totally unrealistic

01:08:12.380 As long as we have like 7 you're good

01:08:14.180 Yeah

01:08:16.140 Alright let me hear the list

01:08:17.940 Alright

01:08:18.360 Alright I'm glad you asked

01:08:21.520 I think it's important

01:08:23.820 Okay here we go

01:08:25.380 Girlfriend qualities. 1.00

01:08:28.240 Wit. 0.86

01:08:29.020 Wit.

01:08:29.640 Okay.

01:08:30.020 She got a little banter. 0.99

01:08:31.200 She need to have some banter. 1.00

01:08:31.920 Like, fuck with me. 1.00

01:08:32.900 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

01:08:34.060 Confidence.

01:08:34.780 Mm-hmm.

01:08:35.620 Intelligent.

01:08:36.300 Mm-hmm.

01:08:37.260 Opinionated. 1.00

01:08:38.700 Empathetic. 0.87

01:08:39.560 Mm-hmm.

01:08:40.200 Self-aware.

01:08:41.680 Big one.

01:08:42.360 Active listener. 0.99

01:08:44.000 Obviously, sexual deviant. 0.99

01:08:45.840 Yeah. 0.99

01:08:46.240 Needs important.

01:08:47.560 Great.

01:08:48.460 Talented.

01:08:49.240 Yeah.

01:08:49.440 I'm attracted to talent.

01:08:51.460 Worldly.

01:08:53.200 Foresight.

01:08:54.640 Insightful.

01:08:56.000 Attractive.

01:08:56.600 Do you feel like you have all these qualities?

01:08:59.360 Some, 100%. 0.98

01:09:01.160 Others, absolutely fucking not. 0.97

01:09:03.860 I'm totally unrealistic. 0.98

01:09:06.760 I mean, this is crazy.

01:09:10.460 He's missing two.

01:09:11.700 And they're the only two on my list.

01:09:14.160 Empathetic, empathetic, and attractive.

01:09:17.180 Loyal.

01:09:18.300 Loyalty.

01:09:19.060 That's the biggest.

01:09:20.520 And I just got a relationship with a really loyal person. 0.98

01:09:23.280 That sucks. 0.92

01:09:23.860 But the other one is 0.97

01:09:25.120 I'm not saying this about my past one 0.99

01:09:27.740 But not a fucking lunatic 0.99

01:09:29.420 Bro in all honesty dog 1.00

01:09:31.080 That's a big one 0.99

01:09:31.960 He needs to be number fucking one 0.99

01:09:36.860 Because bro before you check that box 1.00

01:09:39.300 None of that other shit matters 0.99

01:09:40.700 Like if 1.00

01:09:41.720 If she ever pulls a blade out on you 0.67

01:09:44.440 It don't matter how empathetic she is dog

01:09:46.620 It just don't matter 1.00

01:09:47.680 Cause she got a knife in her fucking hands 1.00

01:09:50.540 You know what I'm saying 1.00

01:09:51.500 So like yo

01:09:52.160 Number one

01:09:53.580 First thing you gotta ask yourself 0.82

01:09:55.400 After you're with a chick for like a couple weeks 1.00

01:09:56.920 Is this girl a fucking psychopath 1.00

01:09:59.960 And if you can't say no to that question 1.00

01:10:01.900 You gotta walk

01:10:02.760 I'm taking notes

01:10:04.760 You know the loyalty one

01:10:07.020 I'm still gonna push back a bit

01:10:09.380 That seems like a given to me

01:10:11.160 Well but it should be included

01:10:13.420 Hold on

01:10:14.660 First of all 0.99

01:10:16.160 Absolutely fucking not 0.98

01:10:18.180 Yes it should be 0.99

01:10:20.420 it should be

01:10:21.440 but

01:10:22.200 but dog 0.99

01:10:23.000 don't even fucking tell me 1.00

01:10:24.100 that your first girl 1.00

01:10:24.760 in this city 1.00

01:10:25.220 was fucking loyal 0.99

01:10:26.500 I didn't know 0.99

01:10:26.720 yeah exactly

01:10:27.760 and we're talking

01:10:28.700 to a 20 year old

01:10:29.700 so I gotta tell them

01:10:30.680 I gotta play man 0.99

01:10:31.060 I gotta fucking play 0.99

01:10:31.880 but also 0.99

01:10:33.360 even

01:10:33.840 even a lot of times

01:10:35.320 there's a lot of people

01:10:37.280 out there

01:10:37.520 who think they got 0.99

01:10:38.280 loyal chicks 0.77

01:10:38.760 and don't 1.00

01:10:39.420 you know what I'm saying

01:10:40.040 so it's like

01:10:40.660 a lot of things on there

01:10:41.520 some of them

01:10:42.360 you can't even

01:10:42.860 really fully know

01:10:43.640 until you're dating

01:10:44.620 this person

01:10:45.240 or like spending

01:10:46.240 that time with them

01:10:46.980 every person

01:10:48.520 reveals more and more

01:10:49.880 about themselves the deeper you get into their personality and it's crazy because the more layers

01:10:54.080 you peel back you find out oh this is a really interesting complex dynamic human being i love

01:11:00.520 this person or you peel back the layers and you start to notice the layers are getting a little

01:11:04.460 bit thinner and there's not much more and the substance ends at a certain level and that's

01:11:08.460 really also demotivating yeah but that's why you got it but that's why the art of it is is moving 0.61

01:11:15.000 slow and if you and as you if you talk to older women they they're not pushing you like what are

01:11:20.460 the what are we conversation as you get into your late 20s starts to just fade away yeah what like

01:11:25.940 that what are we are like you didn't text me back by this time or like what we need this amount of

01:11:30.820 hours per it's just two people just vibing yeah you know i'm saying feeling it out if it feels

01:11:35.640 good you take another step if it feels bad you take a step back like you gotta you're gonna have

01:11:40.220 to go through some mud before you get to those mature relationships unless you start talking to

01:11:43.640 chicks that are 28 29 years old you know i'm saying man it's like i'm looking forward to it

01:11:48.960 but i know it's gonna be kind of like hell too well that's life huh next up all right you know 1.00

01:11:56.140 how hard it is to not give a fuck real shit real shit i mean bro it's hard to not give a fuck 0.99

01:12:03.120 especially because everyone has an opinion and what's crazy about the internet is like every 0.99

01:12:07.980 comment weighs the same basically on the internet like you could leave if you didn't have a blue

01:12:12.440 check or whatever like and you left a comment saying like yo nice shirt and someone else is 0.83

01:12:16.540 like yo that's the worst fucking shirt i've ever seen it's like equal basically i don't know that 0.99

01:12:20.700 the second person like has no job and is a loser and like does like just fucks off their days all 0.99

01:12:25.720 day so everyone has like the same amount of voice on the internet and that could be a good thing or 0.92

01:12:31.700 a bad thing so there's so many opinions out there that it's like and me trying to be a self-reflective

01:12:37.280 person and doing what you said listening to the world it's hard because at a certain point you

01:12:42.060 can't listen to everything that they say so that's just something i'm working on just trying to like 0.99

01:12:46.500 give a fuck but also like give a fuck about what matters the most and not give a fuck about the 0.98

01:12:51.680 stuff that doesn't that's that's i just want to touch on it for one second touch it we we we look 0.99

01:12:59.240 at things on this topic a little bit different he does like to crowdsource uh feedback i personally

01:13:04.620 am big on just generals like yo that's these are my these are my people if somebody on the internet 0.85

01:13:10.180 says yo you you have a big note like i know that first of all like y'all fucking tell me yeah but 0.94

01:13:14.480 like i don't give a fuck what these like anybody like if he says yo great show and like that was 0.97

01:13:20.220 one of your best shows and a hundred people a hundred thousand people are like yo he was really 0.98

01:13:24.060 like whatever my homie my fellow creator one of the best in the fucking business said yo great 0.91

01:13:29.560 fucking show but for me that's so hard to accept like how can how can his like if a hundred thousand 0.99

01:13:34.740 people are saying something like fuck how am i how am i not it is i feel you but but especially when 0.99

01:13:42.460 it's like okay always look at always understand that if uh if two million watch it and a thousand 0.99

01:13:50.680 leave comments and all the thousand comments are liking each other's comments we don't like this

01:13:54.420 person the other 1.9 million that watch every single week weekend and week out yeah they ain't

01:13:59.420 leaving comments so just normal people just enjoying entertainment and then going on in their

01:14:03.460 merry way shout out tina wildcat yeah shout out tina wildcat i don't even know what that means

01:14:07.260 again shout out tina wildcat but just like learn who you really need to listen to or you already

01:14:13.760 know that i think we're learning we're learning i could never trust a don't say it i could never

01:14:20.960 trust a

01:14:21.380 with a big beard

01:14:22.360 like bro

01:14:22.880 what are you hiding

01:14:23.560 a guy 1.00

01:14:24.000 I can never trust a jigger 1.00

01:14:25.460 with a big beard 1.00

01:14:26.300 oh I see what's happening

01:14:27.100 yeah

01:14:27.880 like bro

01:14:28.700 what are you hiding

01:14:29.300 yeah I mean

01:14:30.280 yours isn't

01:14:31.040 yours isn't big enough

01:14:31.900 to be this trustworthy

01:14:32.940 but like

01:14:33.620 as raw as James Harden is

01:14:36.560 you know

01:14:36.880 like I'm a fan

01:14:38.740 4PF Harden

01:14:39.480 I'm a fan

01:14:39.940 but like

01:14:40.240 what's underneath there bro

01:14:41.780 that you've been keeping

01:14:42.500 on lock for

01:14:43.200 for 10 years bro

01:14:44.480 like

01:14:44.820 show yourself

01:14:45.960 reveal yourself

01:14:46.540 lately it might be

01:14:47.940 a cheeseburger 0.99

01:14:48.620 or some shit 0.98

01:14:49.340 what's going on 0.99

01:14:50.820 He's been just

01:14:51.440 I ain't gonna body shave that man

01:14:52.980 He's dropping buckets

01:14:53.680 As a fellow dad bod

01:14:55.580 I can do it

01:14:56.380 You know what I'm saying

01:14:57.020 Cause you got

01:14:57.880 He rocking the dad bod

01:14:59.020 Hard right now dog

01:15:00.160 But they're in style

01:15:01.160 Yeah facts

01:15:01.980 Yeah

01:15:02.500 Alright bro

01:15:03.480 That's all we got today

01:15:04.700 Alright

01:15:05.220 Yeah bro that was lit

01:15:06.320 Your album's coming out

01:15:07.980 March 26th?

01:15:08.820 March 26th

01:15:09.640 El Dorado

01:15:10.160 Very cool bro

01:15:11.060 Very cool

01:15:11.560 Keep a lookout for that

01:15:12.320 We'll put the link

01:15:13.040 In the description

01:15:13.700 When it's out

01:15:14.520 But yeah

01:15:15.020 Appreciate you coming on

01:15:15.640 Impulsive man

01:15:16.120 My pleasure guys

01:15:16.740 Yeah for real

01:15:17.220 This was awesome

01:15:17.820 This was a great talk

01:15:18.500 Yeah yeah yeah

01:15:19.220 We'll have you back on

01:15:20.020 when we're all older

01:15:21.340 and it'll be awesome.

01:15:23.380 The recap episode.

01:15:24.600 For real.

01:15:25.540 We'll be 40 years old, man. 1.00

01:15:26.720 I'll be doing this shit forever. 1.00

01:15:27.720 Well, you're about to be 40 1.00

01:15:28.580 like next week, right?

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Impaulsive with Logan Paul - March 25, 2021

E268 24kGoldn's #1 Hit Is A Mood

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