Impaulsive with Logan Paul - E269 Chase Hero： From Broke To Millionaire In 14 Days

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00:02:12.300 Let me explain.

00:02:13.240 First 14 days of January, I made a million dollars net.

00:02:17.820 I brought my girl back.

00:02:19.380 I got a car for her.

00:02:20.840 I became a man.

00:02:21.960 I had my child, which shaped the person I am today.

00:02:26.120 And each one, now four or later, have shaped me again.

00:02:28.320 and I do the same thing today but I realized that taking action when you should is how you crush in

00:02:36.280 this world when did people start calling hanging around with a bunch of their buddies at their

00:02:46.700 house ripping bongs kickbacks I'm sick of this word already it's it just made its way like into 0.68

00:02:51.720 the vocabulary oh we're having wait what oh really Dylan it's big in the black community you know 0.99

00:02:56.180 what goes on 0.96

00:02:56.640 in the black community.

00:02:57.200 Speaking of the white community,

00:02:57.900 it's been around for a while. 1.00

00:02:59.540 Kickbacks have been around forever.

00:03:00.480 Yo, but I know,

00:03:01.160 but for some reason

00:03:01.680 I just started hearing it more.

00:03:02.820 I feel like it's,

00:03:03.460 I feel like somehow

00:03:04.180 Post Malone

00:03:05.220 is responsible for it.

00:03:06.380 I know he's not,

00:03:07.200 but like for some reason

00:03:08.200 I feel like Post will be like,

00:03:09.200 yeah, we're having a kickback

00:03:10.260 in my spots and Bud Lights,

00:03:11.620 a couple of...

00:03:12.500 Welcome back to Impulsive.

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00:03:18.460 I think it's important

00:03:19.860 to discern the difference

00:03:21.220 between a kickback,

00:03:22.520 a hangout,

00:03:23.340 a gathering,

00:03:24.000 and a party.

00:03:24.740 like these are all very different things and you got to be careful with what you're saying

00:03:27.780 a kickback is low key you're hanging with your friends maybe smoking a little bit chilling a

00:03:32.080 couple drinks pass around nothing crazy it's not a rager which is another one it's a kickback

00:03:36.140 something that happened at a kickback this past week that was uh interesting that might as well

00:03:40.440 kick back to the audience a friend of mine came in from a different country from espana espana

00:03:45.460 and uh he'd never tried weed or alcohol in his entire life and he got out here to cali a lot of

00:03:51.060 People come out to Cali and they get excited.

00:03:53.000 They get pumped up.

00:03:53.840 They want to try weed.

00:03:55.160 So he said, I tried a little bit of the marijuana in California and I had to call a friend to

00:04:00.980 ask how to do it.

00:04:02.700 And for some reason, this friend told him that he should smoke the entire joint by himself

00:04:09.000 that he got.

00:04:10.280 And by the way, it wasn't just Cali weed, which is some of the strongest on the earth.

00:04:15.380 It was like moon rocks, weed, keef, wax.

00:04:20.480 He goes, I took a 10 to 15 hits of it.

00:04:25.040 But I don't know, it's Mario or Luigi.

00:04:26.800 I don't know which one he is, but he's from Spain, not Italy.

00:04:29.360 And I go, well, what happened after that?

00:04:30.680 He goes, I had to go to the hospital.

00:04:32.320 Yeah.

00:04:33.440 Straight to the hospital, bro.

00:04:34.540 He's in the hospital for four hours.

00:04:35.820 This was like six days ago.

00:04:36.960 He flew out here to have meetings with us about new IP products, blah, blah, so on and so forth.

00:04:42.000 Dude's just in the hospital.

00:04:43.240 He was in the hospital.

00:04:44.240 Then after that, he was like, I couldn't see anybody.

00:04:45.780 Couldn't talk to me.

00:04:46.320 That Cali weed hits different, bro, at the kickbacks.

00:04:49.480 yeah yeah it does you got to be careful man i said because everyone has that moment where

00:04:53.120 you're smoking weed for the first time and uh you know maybe you take your first second hit and you

00:04:57.980 don't feel it that's what happened right and you're like oh we must not be working especially 0.91

00:05:02.540 with edibles then all of a sudden you're in the fucking fifth dimension the edibles is another 0.89

00:05:07.540 one that's the scariest my first edible hit was in i'm not kidding it was on my way to church 0.99

00:05:12.800 like at a boy it was a bible study yeah and they were like my buddy fucked with me i didn't know 0.98

00:05:17.980 i took an edible and i swallowed it and he goes and i go why did you just smirk he goes dude you 0.99

00:05:24.600 just ain't an edible and you're not like your boys fuck with you and i was like there's no way 0.99

00:05:28.060 this dude's literally just gonna drug me in the middle of the day like this it's like no you're 0.99

00:05:31.920 fucking lying dude i'm driving and all of a sudden i'm like i feel a little different 15 minutes 40 0.98

00:05:40.100 minutes hit i'm on the highway bro and i'm like i gotta slow down i'm going wait and all of a sudden 1.00

00:05:45.340 car started honking and i'm like bro i'm hitting like 100 miles an hour this is why they're honking

00:05:50.500 they're scared i look down i'm going 46 i'm going 40 miles an hour and i'm like i gotta get out i

00:05:56.500 gotta pull over i pulled over uber to church and dude have you ever if you're in church and people

00:06:01.500 they're motivation you know they're a motivation thing so imagine me in church hi this guy motivated

00:06:07.220 i go i'm feeling it i'm feeling it baby and so yeah that's how you got i got addicted to marijuana

00:06:13.940 And it gets worse

00:06:16.660 This is totally irrelevant

00:06:18.860 But I had a friend

00:06:21.160 Who secretly

00:06:23.600 Slipped his other friend

00:06:25.380 As like a joke

00:06:26.300 Five tabs of acid

00:06:28.180 I'm so sorry

00:06:29.680 I am so sorry 0.98

00:06:31.460 Dude you can't set that shit up 0.99

00:06:33.580 And then say something where the FBI is going to question us later 1.00

00:06:36.220 I feel like I'm going to be responsible for something

00:06:38.220 What do you mean?

00:06:38.880 No because they're boys

00:06:39.660 They're all from the same part of town

00:06:41.900 Kind of wonky

00:06:43.440 Kind of won't 1.00

00:06:44.380 They fuck with each other 1.00

00:06:45.480 Like in that way 1.00

00:06:46.240 Like I would never

00:06:47.040 Obviously to my boys

00:06:48.100 But that's like their thing

00:06:49.460 Five tabs of acid

00:06:51.240 Like surprise

00:06:51.860 You're gonna 0.99

00:06:52.620 Fucking be on Mars 0.99

00:06:53.840 Surprise dude 1.00

00:06:55.760 Surprise

00:06:56.460 I'm melting

00:06:57.220 His eye just starts dripping

00:06:58.420 Literally

00:06:58.860 Yeah

00:06:59.480 Have you ever

00:07:00.020 Have you ever smoked one

00:07:01.100 With your

00:07:01.420 With your mom or dad

00:07:02.900 I have yeah

00:07:03.640 Smoked not yet

00:07:04.480 It's fine

00:07:05.320 Oh yes we have at the ranch

00:07:06.580 Oh I thought you were lying

00:07:07.420 I was gonna be like

00:07:07.880 Yeah no we never smoke with GP

00:07:08.920 Oh we have right

00:07:09.920 Yes

00:07:10.380 In the school bus

00:07:11.300 It is the coolest thing

00:07:12.320 In the water

00:07:12.600 I guilt tripped my dad

00:07:14.280 into doing it

00:07:14.840 you know I got him

00:07:15.620 I swear to god

00:07:16.200 I literally looked at him

00:07:17.460 and I go

00:07:17.740 what if I die tomorrow

00:07:18.580 I swear to god

00:07:19.100 I look so seriously

00:07:20.040 he goes why would you say that

00:07:21.800 I go you're gonna go on

00:07:23.000 for the rest of your life

00:07:23.860 not you know

00:07:25.360 not having a J with you

00:07:26.500 yeah 0.97

00:07:26.780 god forbid I get our car accident

00:07:28.880 tomorrow dad

00:07:29.320 you not gonna smoke one 0.99

00:07:30.440 he goes what the fuck 1.00

00:07:31.380 are you doing to me man 1.00

00:07:32.360 I go

00:07:33.140 throwing it out there

00:07:33.960 forever and always

00:07:34.700 and I told you about it

00:07:35.760 which is even worse

00:07:36.480 so when they lower down

00:07:37.360 the casket

00:07:38.000 you'll know

00:07:38.800 you'll be thinking about it

00:07:39.960 I'm going down

00:07:40.760 not high

00:07:41.260 and you never got high with me

00:07:42.400 Speaking of going high

00:07:43.760 Our guest today

00:07:45.180 Oh yeah

00:07:45.800 It's probably high right now

00:07:46.540 It's about as high as it gets

00:07:47.980 In many ways

00:07:49.520 He's got one of the craziest stories

00:07:51.300 That you'll hear on Impulsive

00:07:52.640 To tell us how he went from prison

00:07:54.300 To making millions

00:07:55.280 He's the man behind the Maverick Club

00:07:56.680 With his company Subify

00:07:57.620 Ladies and gentlemen

00:07:58.220 It's Chase Hero

00:07:59.020 Yes sir

00:08:01.700 Let's go 0.93

00:08:05.100 Promised me he was going to grab my inner thigh

00:08:07.460 And he didn't

00:08:08.040 Yeah

00:08:08.380 On the way past

00:08:09.180 They had that opportunity

00:08:10.260 I got caught up by your cake bro

00:08:11.620 I'm telling you

00:08:12.220 Oh the cake in the back there

00:08:13.620 He saw it on that episode where I wore it

00:08:16.100 Where I dressed up and wore the button down with the

00:08:17.720 Meatball I had so many DMs about that

00:08:20.100 I had so many DMs please let

00:08:22.220 Mike keep dressing like that 0.99

00:08:23.360 Am I a stylist why the fuck are you messaging me 1.00

00:08:26.240 This shit because you put it in the video mortgage Mike 1.00

00:08:28.140 They call it not your first time here on Impulsive 1.00

00:08:30.140 Nope you've been on set before

00:08:31.680 Talking about stonks yeah

00:08:34.100 Stonks it was when GME was going

00:08:36.120 To the moon and we brought you on to help us 0.96

00:08:38.160 Break down exactly what the fuck was happening with the 0.98

00:08:40.160 Stock market and you crushed 0.97

00:08:41.880 You were like a guest guest that episode, but people wanted more Chase Hero after.

00:08:47.880 And I did too.

00:08:48.700 I appreciate that.

00:08:49.360 I thought it was great.

00:08:50.220 You were very riveting.

00:08:51.140 And obviously, we didn't even dive into who you are and what your story is.

00:08:55.340 Obviously, we're good friends now.

00:08:57.560 A hustler, a person who's broken barriers and thinks outside the box.

00:09:03.340 And your success, I think this is the coolest part about it.

00:09:06.740 Your success is so eclectic.

00:09:09.080 You do a lot of things, right?

00:09:10.800 You do e-commerce.

00:09:11.560 now you got the subscription platform yep um you you're a collector in many ways stock trader in

00:09:17.800 many like you do everything chase and you had a tough upbringing as well i did so i think this

00:09:22.560 is a special episode so thanks again for joining us here thanks for having me it's awesome of 0.88

00:09:26.000 course bro so listen you went to fucking jail we're going right there you went to jail chase 0.86

00:09:32.520 yeah yeah it was terrible my dad wanted to know about it yeah he asked he asked because because 1.00

00:09:37.740 we should you're where you're wealthy yeah right now i wouldn't survive now for sure a total bitch 0.94

00:09:43.680 now but but you made it out of the mud yeah my dad wanted to know about your jail story so i want to 0.99

00:09:51.100 just dive right in yeah yeah so you want to start like how i got locked up and shit yeah be a good 0.68

00:09:55.120 so i actually got arrested in class crazy right how old are you uh well so my first time getting 0.79

00:10:01.400 arrested was 18 but like when i like or 17 when i got arrested arrested went to jail i was 18 years

00:10:06.520 old it was a day before my birthday um but my first time actually getting handcuffed I was in 0.92

00:10:12.080 my senior class and it was first period and you guys are talking about drugs and shit I just eat

00:10:17.500 mushrooms and oh no the tv goes dark right so it's like you're it was like uh what's that like 0.98

00:10:25.480 we watch the movies you know the teacher doesn't do shit except play movies so it was that one so

00:10:30.080 you know I eat them I'm sitting all and it goes dark and so you're kind of like in this zone and 0.80

00:10:35.960 then all of a sudden the lights come on and like the bell hadn't rung and it was like all you know

00:10:40.700 I'm like what's going on and two officers walk in the room they're like we're looking for chase here

00:10:44.640 I'm like how'd they know I was on mushrooms could they could they see it in my face smelling it like

00:10:50.000 oh my god they're here for that no they they weren't uh they were there for um me getting

00:10:55.840 in trouble with drugs selling drugs and you know I had someone rat me out finally and they dug

00:11:00.580 through my shit and found drugs right so they arrested me they hauled me off I bonded out and

00:11:05.880 Then I went back in. 0.99

00:11:07.780 I went to arraignment.

00:11:08.880 I thought, you know, I'm going to get out of this.

00:11:10.520 I had a friend of mine who has also gotten a lot of trouble. 1.00

00:11:12.720 He's like, listen, shut the fuck up. 0.99

00:11:14.620 I'm taking this one. 1.00

00:11:15.860 You got me.

00:11:16.680 I got you.

00:11:17.320 And I said, okay, awesome.

00:11:19.620 And I kind of had this weird smirk on my face.

00:11:22.360 He got his bid.

00:11:23.660 She looked at me and she gave me this whole kind of, and she just threw the book at me

00:11:28.700 and sent me off.

00:11:29.560 She's like three and a half years, goodbye. 1.00

00:11:31.520 And just banged her shit down. 0.99

00:11:32.960 And all I heard was my mom go and then broke down. 1.00

00:11:37.260 And so right from there, I'm like, wear golf slacks and shit. 0.99

00:11:39.540 They haul me right off to jail. 0.88

00:11:40.720 And like the thing about jail or prison or getting locked up, it's not actually once

00:11:45.200 you're in, it's the time prior because they toss you around like a pinball, right?

00:11:49.960 You're going into all these holding facilities where everybody's coming in fresh off the

00:11:53.520 streets. 1.00

00:11:53.940 They hate their fucking lives. 1.00

00:11:55.340 They're really depressed. 1.00

00:11:56.540 They're really pissed off.

00:11:57.620 They got huge charges.

00:11:59.120 And, you know, it got really scary really quickly.

00:12:01.860 And, you know, you asked how I got out of the mud. That's how I got out of the mud. I sat in a cell for years of my life looking at all these people and I go, holy fuck, I'm actually a piece of shit. They didn't think that. I don't think that. The world thinks that of me because I'm here with them. And no matter how big my ego is and how better I can say I didn't do what you did, we're all the same in here.

00:12:26.920 And at that moment, I really started realizing because I was looking at normal guys who look like us, but they were older. I'm like, why are you here? You look so normal. And I realized it was just that quick for your life to get thrown away. And I just started being really good and I didn't get to no trouble there. I kept to my own. I read a ton of books.

00:12:45.600 I really became educated on one thing, human psychology, the interaction of people.

00:12:52.400 How did I understand the wits game and why did I lose it so much?

00:12:56.200 Why was I so bad at this game of life, if you will?

00:12:59.900 And once I realized that, I just did my time. 0.97

00:13:02.560 And the day they let me out, I fucked up again and went right back in. 0.96

00:13:06.900 Are you serious? 0.99

00:13:07.500 Yeah.

00:13:08.020 Oh, no.

00:13:08.980 He's like, I learned everything about what to do.

00:13:12.060 Don't read books.

00:13:13.820 They do nothing for you.

00:13:15.600 Well, no, the thing is, the thing is, is I have a really bad, you know, probation parole officer,

00:13:23.020 if you will. She's probably going to see this, you know, which is crazy, but she was really,

00:13:26.240 really tough on me. And she would make me take piss tests for weed. And like, I just locked up 1.00

00:13:32.020 for years of my life. Right. What do you think the first thing I did when I got out? Like,

00:13:36.740 you just, I got high as fuck the next day. They're like, Oh, by the way, you've got to pass a piss 1.00

00:13:42.400 test tomorrow and i go well what happens if i don't they're like you go back for another 90

00:13:46.440 days so i just got all my affairs together realizing i'm going back for 90 more days 0.99

00:13:50.320 you were probably happy as shit because you got high as fuck you know it was a short lasted uh 0.99

00:13:54.780 victory followed by a really terrible assault and like to be honest with you i did that two more 1.00

00:13:59.100 times wait you really like weed you're a weed addict yeah and the thing is is like the thing 0.99

00:14:04.780 is you wait no you can't just blow past that bro you hold on yeah i'm a fuck up you know the thing 0.99

00:14:11.940 Is this being self-aware? 1.00

00:14:12.840 How many times are you going to fuck up until you, dude, you just gave us an inspiration. 0.99

00:14:15.580 Like I look around, I saw these people. 0.99

00:14:17.760 I was like, I even read books about psychology. 0.98

00:14:20.280 And then I came out, I forgot what I, what the fuck was I reading? 0.74

00:14:24.640 Was it one fish, blue fish, two fish, three fish? 0.92

00:14:27.320 So, so yes.

00:14:28.620 But how about this?

00:14:30.140 Have you ever been in a really dark place in your life?

00:14:32.200 I know you have.

00:14:33.060 Have you guys been in a, like where you don't see anything the right way. 1.00

00:14:37.160 You're just looking for relief from the fucking pain. 0.99

00:14:41.320 You just want it to stop. 1.00

00:14:43.060 Like it's just so debilitating.

00:14:45.580 It's just a constant reminder that you're nothing

00:14:48.280 or that you don't fit in

00:14:49.880 or everything you've done up to this moment 1.00

00:14:51.340 that defines you shitty. 0.98

00:14:53.100 And it's tough when you're in that moment 1.00

00:14:55.880 to not fuck up again because you're all emotional. 0.99

00:14:59.360 It came out of emotion. 0.99

00:15:00.720 And when you're in a state of emotion

00:15:01.740 and you make decisions based off it,

00:15:03.480 you're doomed from there.

00:15:04.420 And it was only when I truly realized

00:15:07.420 that this was gonna be the rest of my life like this,

00:15:09.760 I chilled on weed.

00:15:10.620 It was actually the only six months of my entire life I did.

00:15:13.220 And then packed all my worldly possessions.

00:15:14.980 I got on a bus and I came to California.

00:15:17.520 But what I wanted to get to is this idea of being a habitual offender.

00:15:20.840 You were a habitual offender.

00:15:22.220 You were in the same place that I was, which was, this is my life.

00:15:25.740 This is my life.

00:15:26.420 I don't see any way out of this.

00:15:29.260 There's no light at the end of the tunnel.

00:15:30.320 This is just how I'm going to be for the rest of my life.

00:15:32.160 And at some point, in a lot of ways, you actually come to accept it and you find comfort in the fact that you have no hope left.

00:15:39.740 you find comfort in the fact that there's darkness all around you and you embrace that

00:15:43.360 and you say yo this is how things went this was the shake of of cards that i got and my what i've

00:15:49.200 tried to do with my platform is always tell people don't settle into that darkness you gotta keep 0.52

00:15:53.860 that fucking light shining bro you have to find it so what for you was that light that flickered 0.91

00:15:59.380 and said yo i gotta change this up you know that's i've been trying to like materialize it you know 0.99

00:16:04.560 because i think that's like the most impactful thing but i think it's just the precipice i think

00:16:08.860 everybody has a point in their life where they make a decision where they're going to sit on 0.65

00:16:14.640 their ass and do nothing or they don't accept it anymore. And that's a tough decision for a lot of

00:16:20.680 people. And, you know, thankfully for God, he pointed me in the right direction. It wasn't like

00:16:25.380 can you stop and say, thankfully for what? For God. So is that what you say? Well, yeah. And so

00:16:30.180 like I always knew he had my back, but I think as his presence was more made known to me, because 0.99

00:16:35.860 like look at my life now like this is just crazy if you would believe that someone who is as fucked 0.66

00:16:39.500 up as me would be here now and i did this all on my own well thank you for so much credit but i 0.89

00:16:44.940 don't actually deserve it all i'm just that's this vessel that he's allowing me so he obviously had

00:16:49.180 better plans for me right and and it wasn't just easy from there you know i came out to california

00:16:54.300 and tried to start a new life and then one day yeah i get a knock at the door probation officer

00:17:00.220 two swift officers oh it was to pick up me at the door and they get to the door and they're like 0.70

00:17:05.700 chase hero and i'm like i got a bong in my mouth like a big ass tall one i'm like he's still high

00:17:12.040 as i was hoping it was a bible hey guys listen i mean i changed oh he didn't tell you his god is

00:17:19.100 actually bob marley um seth rogan right so yeah so you know they they're really cool i'm like can

00:17:27.340 i call my mom you know like she's gonna be really upset about this you know and uh and i just want

00:17:32.060 to let her know before you guys let her know and so they they're real nice they handcuffed me but

00:17:35.280 they put like a sweatshirt over my hands and walk me out like this way. So I didn't like embarrass

00:17:38.600 my roommates or my neighbors and they, they take me down to the jail and they're putting me through

00:17:43.200 the stuff. So I have a bad heart. I have hyperlipidemia and I'm on medicine. You know,

00:17:47.460 I will be the rest of my life. Most likely if my, unless my wife has something to say about it, but

00:17:51.000 I had to take this medicine. So I went into the doctor and I was like, you know, he was like,

00:17:56.740 you're not going to get your medicine for like 30 days. I'm like, fuck, I'm going to lose all my 0.99

00:18:00.300 muscle strength. Like it makes me like not even be able to hold a pop can or like a bottle. It's 0.99

00:18:03.880 gnarly. It just, it fucks with you. So as I'm walking back in the guards, like hero, roll up 0.99

00:18:09.880 your sleeves. You're going to holding, you know, I've got this like orange jumpsuit with like white

00:18:13.540 ass sleeves. Like our bodies ain't meant to be in jail. Like this is the body of a 12 year old 0.78

00:18:17.620 synchronized swimmer, not a convict. Right. It's just, it ain't the same thing. Right. So I look

00:18:23.620 up cause I'm trying to be all hard. It's in Riverside. I'm like, what? He's like, roll up

00:18:27.960 your sheets. You're going home. I'm like, Oh great. My bus is here to take me mind you. It was a 31

00:18:33.220 day trip from California back to Wisconsin. And we stopped at 31 different jails. That's where I

00:18:37.000 slept each night. Get the fuck out of here. Right. No pills, no pills, no nothing. I just got to do 1.00

00:18:41.500 it. So they're going, they give me all my bad, you know, like jail is supposed to be tough. I

00:18:46.180 think it's supposed to like change your mindset, but it's really funny when they hand you your

00:18:49.780 worldly possessions in a Ziploc bag. They're like, Hey buddy. And you're like, Oh, thanks for my

00:18:55.220 Ziploc bag. Right. And they're like down the hall. And so I go down the hall and I open the door

00:19:01.240 and it's an alleyway but there's no fences it's like outside and I'm like they're gonna fucking 0.96

00:19:08.420 shoot me like that they're gonna shoot me right now and I remember looking back at the guy I'm 0.86

00:19:13.560 like what do I do right now he's like state of Wisconsin isn't gonna pay to extradite you you're

00:19:17.560 free man and I like look at him and I'm like at this point I'm bawling in tears I'm like I'll

00:19:21.980 stay what did I do like I think they're gonna kill me like I'm like I'm like I think they're

00:19:26.380 gonna it's so ominous it's like this alley like a hallway and like they're at the corner no one

00:19:32.420 else is in the hallway but me this happened in Shawshank Redemption spoiler alert yeah yeah

00:19:36.940 same same it did right yeah I thought they were gonna be free to go he walks away I'm going home

00:19:42.460 they kill him probably subconsciously why it's in my mouth shout out great movie but so I'm like

00:19:48.100 okay he's like no get out of here you're free go home and I so I pushed the door open it creaks

00:19:56.140 open and I kind of like look around all weird and I shut it super slowly. You know, like when you're

00:19:59.680 like, come home late as a kid, you don't want your parents to know you're in there. I'm like,

00:20:03.040 and then I just stand there for a minute and I'm like looking around. And then two minutes later,

00:20:07.860 someone else comes out. I'm like, Oh yeah, man, this is how they release us. I was like, Oh shit.

00:20:13.560 Mind you, I've got like my sweatpants and sweatshirt. Cause they took me at night 0.99

00:20:16.620 and it's like Riverside in the middle of the summer, hotter than shit. And I'm nine miles 0.99

00:20:21.260 from my house with no cell phone or wallet or anything. Cause I thought I was going back to

00:20:24.960 Wisconsin. Why would I bring any of my worldly possessions? I was going to mail them home.

00:20:28.040 So I walked home and I'm kind of a fuck face in the sense that I like to mess with people. So like 0.98

00:20:32.540 a mile before I got to my house, I started kind of jogging and developed a sweat. And then by the

00:20:37.000 time I got to my place, I ran up my stairs fast. I kind of went, let me in, bro. I jumped out the

00:20:42.460 car window. Please, please. Like, and you know what they did? My friends did. They called the

00:20:46.580 cops. No, no. At one point you just maybe go home and like take a nap instead of just getting the

00:20:53.760 drugs fucking with people yeah yeah so the cops show up and they're like no he's free to go you're 0.90

00:20:58.440 good right so it's hilarious so you had six nine style friends yeah you had two takashis they're 1.00

00:21:04.620 like yo he's here we got him we got him come get him yep holy shit but yeah you know it was going 0.65

00:21:10.140 through that and just realizing how fragile things were and like how one little mistake could lead to

00:21:16.320 like the slipperiest slope and i think that the fact i hated that feeling so much is what pushed

00:21:21.440 me to where i'm at right now and you know i take big risks in business you know obviously tactically

00:21:26.600 as i like to think so and i just keep remembering you know reminding myself that like even when

00:21:32.100 people are shitty just be good be you be strong be the same person you are and you know so far

00:21:37.360 it's been fucking really good and you i mean you've helped me with it yeah you sometimes got 0.96

00:21:41.860 to be walked off the ledge a little probably always listen i come from the internet world 0.98

00:21:45.800 where like you know like you can messiah shit on the end like watch out kids don't mess with kids 0.95

00:21:51.040 on the internet it's not as you know what i'm saying like you it's a crazy world and i just i 0.94

00:21:54.700 come from a different place and like you know straight up like having you guys around like

00:21:58.800 you guys have been instrumental in like helping me understand this world and this industry and

00:22:03.700 all of these things and like just keeping a sound head about things and i truly appreciate it's

00:22:07.900 having great people around you that constantly just remind you of like hey you solve things this

00:22:12.420 way and yes it works but you ever tried it this way might also work and be less stressful and

00:22:16.920 you know and it's been it's proven it's you know weight in gold if you will besides that

00:22:21.460 massive learning curve or learning lesson you had as a as a young man you also have a thing

00:22:27.200 you're very smart i appreciate you use the word tactical um and i'm wondering where that comes

00:22:34.200 from and if you had it before you went to prison like if you were one of those kids that kind of

00:22:38.520 just coasted through school yep got good grades or maybe didn't but you knew you could yep did

00:22:45.660 you always have that thing? Yeah. I think I had a little bit of something of doubt, not knowing

00:22:50.300 why, where I fit in. Right. Uh, so I didn't do good. I did good in school, but I didn't show

00:22:54.220 up much to it. Um, you know, I was selling drugs, you know, I was being, it was hard for me to go

00:23:00.760 to a school where I was making more than my teachers already. You know what I'm saying?

00:23:05.460 And like making that much money, we were making a lot of money. And that's why you get in trouble

00:23:09.000 is because you make a lot of money. You stand out. Like it's very, it's very apparent when

00:23:13.240 someone's doing something nefarious well the dude was throwing crazy parties and throwing money at

00:23:18.360 people he wasn't hiding facts you were yeah oh yeah we went to like uw like uh these street these

00:23:24.300 bars like brothers and stuff and i'd walk in with like 20k underage shut the sorry guys i'm out on

00:23:28.460 you but shut the door and we would just rage the whole night as a high schooler oh well i was now

00:23:33.200 out of high school going you know like just before i'm about to be 18 this is like months before i go

00:23:37.900 away i'm living cloud nine we're riding around like a porsche you know like i'm like getting 0.91

00:23:43.020 laid all the time like college is the shit this is he was like uh he was like the first gen hacker 0.97

00:23:48.240 who just like stole their first bitcoin and then show up at the club hide with 100k cash 0.99

00:23:53.560 and it was funny now you know i thought they treated me harsh back then i look at it now

00:23:57.960 and it was the best lesson ever shout out you know municipalities for you know going hard on me but 0.77

00:24:03.660 they like changed me otherwise i'd probably still be a fuck up today what age were you when uh 0.85

00:24:07.760 your life really started to turn around 23 it's crazy it's so crazy how weed was was viewed back 0.94

00:24:15.660 then and how that was like one of your uh repeating offenses and now like it's it's legal in

00:24:22.620 there's people that are still in jail for life right so weird marijuana offenses it's wild i

00:24:27.880 don't know how that's a thing it is i don't get that yeah money probably politics well no i mean

00:24:32.660 it's i don't want to i don't know how deep we're gonna go down this rabbit hole but race i think

00:24:37.380 has something to do with it or at least or at least the socioeconomic issues that are tied into

00:24:41.740 race at certain times however you want to look you know why they made marijuana illegal in the

00:24:45.740 first place right yeah i do you let's hear the owner of the newspapers didn't like hemp and he

00:24:51.640 didn't he didn't like the power of it so what he did is in the newspaper he made it look so vile

00:24:56.300 and evil because he thought it was a competitor you're talking about newspapers like guess what

00:25:00.680 guess what google this i believe it was made illegal because the thought was it made white

00:25:07.060 women fancy black men google that right now no they said like i'm not even kidding like the most 0.98

00:25:12.440 foul shit ever they said that because they they wanted to get it illegal what it's a jekyll and 0.99

00:25:18.200 hyde effect is that yeah look at people from dr jekyll to mr drug policy.org there are hearings 0.99

00:25:23.420 on marijuana in the 1930s claims are made about marijuana's ability to cause men of color oh my

00:25:28.500 bad so it was like but there it was it was a race baited a way to control oh my yeah yeah like some 0.98

00:25:33.660 old school bullshit this country is crazy i really don't think people realize how just like 0.99

00:25:39.860 corrupt and backwards we are in some verticals you know that they once said like tobacco wasn't 0.99

00:25:43.880 bad like smoking cigarettes was fine like it's all it was the biggest yeah it was the biggest

00:25:48.300 thing in the world everybody was doing it what remember reefer madness yeah remember the movie 0.86

00:25:52.080 reefer madness yeah it was like if you smoke one hit of weed you'll turn gay you'll jump out a 0.99

00:25:57.420 fucking window a meat like it was horrifying it just comes to show you that like we're all kind 1.00

00:26:03.160 of mixed bags trying to figure it out. No one really knows what's going on. And we just put 0.99

00:26:06.640 so much power in people who think they do. And we're like, oh yeah, I guess that's probably why

00:26:09.900 it is. Shit. Let's abolish it. You know, it's really crazy when you look into this stuff, 1.00

00:26:13.900 isn't it? It's all crazy. You know what else is crazy? What you've been able to do in the

00:26:17.940 business world. Can we dive into that a little bit? What is the basis for your success in

00:26:22.640 business? What did you do? Talk about your journey on e-com, talk about your journey on

00:26:28.420 arbitrage on facebook advertising you you are looked at as one of the you know crushers in

00:26:34.420 that fucking space and a lot of people i talk to um you know all the time at different dinners 0.92

00:26:39.680 business meetings whatever know who chase hero is they respect his grind and something i've come 0.99

00:26:44.920 to respect quite a bit about you is your is your hustle and your and the amount of time and effort

00:26:49.540 you put into your work how did it start how did it get to where it is now um you want me to tell

00:26:53.900 how i started like in the e-commerce uh november 12th 2011 never forget the day had 2 000 bucks to

00:26:59.620 my name my wife and i split because she wanted to have a baby she was pregnant with my daughter my 0.97

00:27:04.660 first daughter now hayden and uh i was like you're crazy this shouldn't happen i'm fucking broke are 0.98

00:27:10.180 you mental and so we split because her mom's super religious and she's like if i'm gonna have an 0.99

00:27:14.100 abortion i'm leaving you she left right so i met this guy ted danik and he showed me online facebook

00:27:20.420 like ads. Uh, I sat in his office and like at noon at one day and he said, I'm going to show

00:27:26.180 you how to run an ad on Facebook. Uh, uh, it was a France diet or something offer. And he goes,

00:27:31.920 listen, come into my office. I'm gonna show you this, show you this. I'm like, he's like,

00:27:35.100 how much money do you have? I'm like $2,000. And he kind of did that, what you did before,

00:27:38.220 which was, which was really, which was amazing. I'm like, thanks buddy. Um, but basically they

00:27:46.100 just kept saying a couple things they said watch the stats and don't fuck this up and they basically

00:27:51.060 brought all these people in to help me and he did it because you know he later told me he said he

00:27:54.420 saw something in me and he felt really bad that i was in such a shitty place in my life and i went

00:27:59.340 home i lit up a joint marijuana always seems to have a place in my life right and they're like

00:28:05.060 don't fall asleep because i'm starting my ad at like midnight so i start it what do i do fall asleep

00:28:09.640 fall asleep i wake up at like nine in the morning like crying like a little girl because i don't

00:28:13.940 to come from money. I ain't got no family bread. I ain't gotten, I had no other real friends. I

00:28:17.700 had no one to take care of me. I just put $2,000 of the last $2,000 I had onto something. I have

00:28:23.340 no idea what I'm doing. And I log in at nine in the morning and it's $0 made $1,200 spent.

00:28:32.340 I was broken. Probably the darkest time in my entire life. At that moment, I'm like,

00:28:37.700 even with the best help in the world, I'm shitty. So fast forward, they call me like a hundred times

00:28:41.600 And they're like, and I find the answer, like hysterical, like Teddy, I need, shout out

00:28:45.020 Ted Danik.

00:28:45.480 I'm like, I need some time, dude.

00:28:46.900 Like I'm a mess right now.

00:28:49.260 And he's like, bro, look at the stats.

00:28:51.900 The pixel didn't fire.

00:28:52.900 Listen, I knew that.

00:28:53.860 I never even knew about a pixel.

00:28:55.880 I'm like, I had my first wire transaction was like a week prior and I never heard a

00:29:00.080 wire.

00:29:00.520 The guy's like, what's your wire information?

00:29:01.660 I'm like, what is that like special?

00:29:04.400 Like, so I look and it was like 36, $3,800 off 1200.

00:29:08.740 And I turned the spend back on.

00:29:10.540 I closed the day.

00:29:11.600 spending 2K to make $4,200. That's November 12th, 2011. My whole life changed that way.

00:29:16.840 Let me explain. First 14 days of January, I made a million dollars net. I brought my girl back.

00:29:23.760 I got a car for her. I became a man. I had my child, which shaped the person I am today. And

00:29:30.840 each one now, four later have shaped me again. And I do the same thing today. But I realized that

00:29:35.800 taking action when you should is how you crush in this world. I mean, you told me buy Pokemon cards.

00:29:44.100 I didn't even hesitate. I go, cool. What's one should I get? And I just started buying, right?

00:29:49.620 I'm just that way. I hold a lot of love and admiration to the people that I trust. I believe,

00:29:55.820 excuse me, my circle is very small. So if I believe you, I'll fuck with you and I follow you. 1.00

00:30:00.500 so I started running, you know, just normal, you know, online ads, no subscription, no nothing, 1.00

00:30:05.820 and then what happened is I started getting some success, but then I realized the industry was

00:30:09.740 maturing, and big players were coming into the game, and they had bigger budgets than I, and

00:30:14.200 they were just dominating me, just wrecking me every day, I'd get a great position, they'd buy

00:30:19.600 it out, take it, I'd have nothing, and I'm like, there's got to be a better way to do this, and I 0.99

00:30:24.500 remember going into Costco, and I kept going in, and I'm like, how do they make money on the shit 0.98

00:30:29.440 in this fucking place it's always so cheap and they gave like a billion dollars a year away in 0.99

00:30:34.060 fucking you know these what are the tasters or whatnot oh by the way i would i would go away 0.99

00:30:41.940 with my parent with my mom my dad and my brother we'd have taste test dinners at costco just going 0.99

00:30:47.200 around that was our evening activity that'd be like a multi-million person facebook group if

00:30:53.660 every person would just admit to how many times they've done that we would all get along growing

00:30:57.720 up my favorite part trying the taste tests at costco imagine doing that as a grown-up high

00:31:02.580 yeah it's great it's great no it's actually awesome you brought me back so so long story

00:31:09.920 short is just like anything i just do my research you know we live in this day and age where if you 0.98

00:31:13.700 get your ass get off your ass and just use one of those things there's a lot of answers people 0.98

00:31:16.980 tell you a lot of things in this world and i looked and it was subscriptions they were making 1.00

00:31:21.360 all this money on that hundred dollar a year subscription and i was like well what did they

00:31:25.240 do. They just gave me access. Like I didn't get anything with that money. I got, and that access

00:31:30.680 to me was so valuable because I got them tasters because I got all those things that I wanted. I,

00:31:36.140 I was perceived value. Right. So I was like, how can we build this online? Right. And so we started

00:31:42.220 looking at the different things. Like, do I send a product every month? Do I do this? And what it

00:31:46.300 came to is if I built a version of Costco online where I built chance, the chance to be something

00:31:53.620 bigger, win something, be a part of something, if I gave deals so that you felt value right,

00:32:00.120 and then I built a community, people would fall in love with it. And that was my thesis. And that

00:32:05.380 was 13 years ago. And a billion and a half later, we've done just that. And my whole being here is

00:32:12.160 building subscription and building communities. Because like a brand or a consumer, I truly believe

00:32:19.180 an infinite relationship possibility and i look at it like this how far do you think a relationship

00:32:25.960 could go if there was never a chance to meet the person in person do you think that there'd be a

00:32:31.300 ceiling to that relationship that you could obviously never get past i would assume so no

00:32:35.300 i don't think so you think that you could just go forever like i couldn't how about your wife

00:32:39.260 how about like you oh oh sorry you know what i'm saying like imagine i get depends what

00:32:43.140 a personal personal relationship correct yeah oh yeah correct so the way i looked at it is

00:32:47.700 the one thing we as people all try to do is be a part of something and be tied and be linked and

00:32:53.040 have our money go to somewhere of value right and i realized you know with your guys's help

00:32:58.020 and showing me this industry and how amazing it is i realized that that is what we needed to create

00:33:03.500 i realized how powerful it was and maybe i'm wrong how powerful was to meet him huge uh i would say

00:33:09.480 changed my life absolutely all of us everybody at this table for sure yeah okay and i was hoping 0.99

00:33:16.040 you were gonna say that i was all worried for a second like the fuck logan oh no also 0.98

00:33:20.000 damaged my life but but would you agree or disagree that there's more people in the world 0.98

00:33:29.980 like george and mike i disagree yeah yeah i mean you gotta you need to build these questions out

00:33:37.540 i mean not like not like a syrian and a drug addict what do you mean what do you mean like

00:33:44.280 there's people that have the charisma or the desire or yes that have the that that it thing

00:33:50.120 it takes that they should have more in life this is why we created what we created i think that

00:33:56.660 when you give a creator the ability to create unfiltered undisrupted in a safe place of people

00:34:03.300 who vibrate with them and care about them and they're aligned to none of this bullshit over

00:34:07.520 here and there in return the fan gets the most intimate experience ever and they get a chance

00:34:15.000 at an infinite relationship how many people have you brought here how many people you take into

00:34:19.420 the ranch how many people have didn't you just show up at someone's house aren't you flying

00:34:23.340 someone out yep this month like i know it doesn't sound like a lot because you're in the scene and

00:34:28.360 this is life i mean this is you see it's like i remember when i used to be like logan paul damn 0.68

00:34:32.560 this crazy. Now I just see you just Logan, you know, you're my buddy, I kick you in the balls 1.00

00:34:35.460 when I see you and it's fun. But what I realized is, you know, you're a, you're a beautiful human 0.98

00:34:39.760 being. People should have more resources than that. People should see you as you without you

00:34:44.960 having to dance around their world. Listen, go to those platforms and dance around there. Cause

00:34:50.140 that's what, that's how that world goes. And that's fair. But I think that you should also

00:34:53.720 have a world that's yours and something that you dictate how you interact, you dictate how you

00:34:59.200 create and you dictate the terms of the engagement. And by doing so, I think it builds something

00:35:04.660 really crazy and it's really fun to watch. So that, that was your thesis. And that was your

00:35:09.280 thesis when you started the Watchers Group, which is where this idea of a subscription-based

00:35:13.780 community started, right? And where you taught people how to do e-commerce and how to buy ads

00:35:19.400 and make money in that way. And that was massively successful. Where I think both of our lives

00:35:26.020 changed was when i i walked into your warehouse it's awesome by the way it's awesome your warehouse 0.99

00:35:31.700 you should be my neighbor it's like a fantasy factory for business art everywhere fucking 0.85

00:35:38.880 12 of the most expensive vehicles you ever see all the same color basketball hoop 0.95

00:35:43.120 everything and i've got issues agreed at first i think we were just hanging out i think i'd come

00:35:49.600 by we just like chop chop it up talk about ideas and then eventually you're like yo 0.78

00:35:53.700 you you need to have a subscription service for like fans who really fuck with you and i was like 0.78

00:35:59.280 like bro i've seen it i've heard it all chase like i've been down this road before uh like 0.86

00:36:05.280 only fans is doing it now like why don't i just do only fans and you're like no dude i could i

00:36:10.080 think i could make you a platform where you could own all of it where you don't have to you're your 0.96

00:36:15.440 own boss and it's a community of people who really fuck with you where you don't have to worry about 0.97

00:36:20.620 getting canceled don't have to worry about saying something fucked up and you're rewarding your most 0.99

00:36:25.100 uh your uh most active fans and uh so then we built the maverick club and this is how uh this 0.78

00:36:32.380 relationship has continued to develop because i'm obsessed with this club as a creator like

00:36:37.460 knowing i have a place where i can just post and do whatever i want with people who appreciate me

00:36:44.340 is crazy i'm gonna tear up it's it's oh honestly you're i'm so used to be every creator is so used

00:36:51.900 to just being critiqued about every little thing you do like i won't send 90 of tweets like y'all 0.99

00:36:57.560 should see my drafts just thoughts i have because i'm afraid some fuck ass is gonna say some dumb 1.00

00:37:01.740 shit that i just don't want to hear and in this club it's it's all so positive and um zero fuck 0.99

00:37:07.900 ass it's a cool way it's a cool way for for both people to give back and just like reciprocate 0.99

00:37:12.700 energy and so i told him about it i told some other people about it i told him about ironically

00:37:16.820 i think we all have clubs now which is awesome and it sounds cheesy but like when he was like

00:37:21.500 you're gonna love it and i was like all right buddy but like no because you fall in love with 0.98

00:37:26.080 it the people just are they they fuck and they're not weird that's the part so i thought they were 0.99

00:37:30.860 gonna be weird i thought they were gonna be fucking weird you're like wait you want to 1.00

00:37:34.940 subscribe to bubble town they're gonna fucking be weird right bro another great deep conversation 0.98

00:37:42.240 i'm like what the fuck i know this is this is literally like a full-blown relationship and it's 0.98

00:37:47.520 not weird at all it elevates it elevates the engagement and the conversation on both ends of 0.82

00:37:53.980 the dichotomy right or on both ends of the spectrum you've got you've got a creator now

00:37:59.460 able to put out the content they actually want to create it is not elevated by an algorithm that

00:38:05.720 rewards certain thumbnails or titling. It is seen, it is you delivering completely and only what you

00:38:13.320 want to deliver. And it is received by people who only want to see what you deliver and what you

00:38:19.080 want to deliver. So what it does is it facilitates this really symbiotic relationship between the

00:38:24.640 viewer and the creator that is then elevated even further by the ability to have a conversation

00:38:29.000 with that person. If somebody direct messages me, yo, like there was a part in your book around

00:38:33.040 page 47 where you said this, what did you mean by that? This is the only place in the world where I

00:38:37.200 can give them a paragraph long answer or FaceTime them or wherever it is. So I think it was a

00:38:42.760 necessary step for not only influencer and creator, but for celebrity to take that relationship to the

00:38:48.780 next step. I agree. The next level. And I think that as a consumer, it's going to really start

00:38:55.200 taking off soon. And what I think that is, I think people are realizing what the most valuable

00:38:59.300 commodity is here. And it's time. And people are like, well, YouTube's free. I'm like, well,

00:39:03.580 is it? Because when you start out watching Logan's video and now I'm on yours and then yours.

00:39:08.760 Double ads.

00:39:09.080 And now I'm correct.

00:39:10.100 Not one video without double ads.

00:39:11.440 Correct. And let's talk about that. When you watch a movie, when you're trying to get into

00:39:16.680 a movie, a piece of content, do you want it disrupted? Doesn't that mess the flow? That'd

00:39:21.800 be like having sex, like, hang on, let's stop real quick. Let's go for a little run and come 0.99

00:39:26.320 back and continue, right? It's like, you don't want interruptions with emotional interactions.

00:39:31.720 And it's like, you definitely don't want them with like weird things that could throw people

00:39:35.500 off, right? How do you continue this content? So for us, we look at it like you guys are already

00:39:40.220 selling your content, right? You sell it to a platform. A platform sells it to an advertiser

00:39:45.100 and an advertiser sells it to the client, right? So the money's being made. People consume all the

00:39:49.060 time. I wanted to build something and you guys are the ones who build it. Like it's, I'm just

00:39:53.780 laying the concrete on the road but i wanted to help facilitate something that would allow people

00:39:59.400 to take that path and control it entirely and so your thesis proved out to be uh correct and and

00:40:06.040 and and thus is subify correct do you feel like subify is competing with only fans in a way

00:40:12.640 because it's a it's all it's kind of a similar model fair i think subify is obviously do you

00:40:18.780 have more access and the um i think we're like a different but like the gold standards is my

00:40:24.600 i'm a little biased but like i think we are but i think we're as similar as a rolls royce is to a

00:40:30.740 honda civic and i'm not saying like they suck because they're obviously phenomenal but what

00:40:34.840 i'm talking about is you're super creative you're super creative you my friend are super creative

00:40:41.800 why would you want a platform that's something slash logan paul super uncreative you live in

00:40:49.800 their world you don't get any say in this and then what happens when someone else does something bad

00:40:55.180 and affects you or you want to go change over here and do something different or move this over here

00:40:59.360 like you have zero freedom as a creator and so like we like to give these people the option of

00:41:04.400 like controlling what they work hard for what happens if only fans goes under what happens if

00:41:09.020 they get embroiled in some crazy lawsuit what happens if youtube becomes the next vine what

00:41:14.880 happens if people keep putting all of their eggs in someone else's basket i never tell people to

00:41:20.680 stop what they're doing i just tell them to think about their future because people at your guys's

00:41:24.760 level and a lot of these creators you have built arguably your own broadcast centers like bro you 0.97

00:41:30.940 had a pokemon unboxing that was like breaking every record it's fucking pokemon boxing which 0.98

00:41:35.960 i fuck with but i'm just saying like you know how crazy that is so again just giving you guys the 0.98

00:41:40.140 fluid control of your own you know destination is amazing and listen i get so many people hit me up 0.99

00:41:46.400 and talk about a how it's so unfair that all you are in your club and that they hate me for it or

00:41:51.500 b how it's so crazy you're on the club all of the time yeah i i try to post as much as possible at

00:41:58.160 least once a day um but and and it's also cool because it's almost impossible to post too much

00:42:03.380 yep i could just dump whatever and and yeah people are upset because i no longer really

00:42:08.680 posting that's what i was just gonna say i was gonna ask you it's like do uh do you ever feel

00:42:13.580 the receiving end of any of the the logan paul fans that aren't yeah i got death threats i told

00:42:18.380 you about that people are the reason you're the reason they're absolutely these kids are really

00:42:24.420 good investigators they're like you did this i'm like i and i i'm just a nice guy responding to

00:42:29.040 My Instagram messages probably should stop.

00:42:31.200 But I'm like, I did what?

00:42:33.000 They're like, you destroyed Logan Paul for me.

00:42:36.180 I'm like, oh my God.

00:42:38.220 I'm like, I promise you it's worth it, right?

00:42:40.240 It's like people spend money 0.97

00:42:41.800 on the most asinine stuff in the world. 0.98

00:42:44.980 Why not spend money 0.97

00:42:46.800 where you get value given back to you?

00:42:49.920 Like truly.

00:42:50.640 And we only really work with creators who are amazing.

00:42:53.160 I mean, like that care about their fans.

00:42:55.560 I always, you know, one of the big things is like,

00:42:57.360 how do I give back?

00:42:58.320 i always know right away when a creator says well how do i give back to my community i'm like i want 0.99

00:43:02.480 to fuck with you like right away i'm like because because when the power's in your hands and the 0.96

00:43:07.960 revenue comes to you amazing stuff happens right and it's really fun to watch that like i said i 0.99

00:43:13.080 can't wait for all the future stuff you do i'm excited to see who you put on yours yeah even i

00:43:17.840 might show up you know what i'm saying it's like come to it you should come i told them they could

00:43:21.600 be a kind of like a creator of their choice yeah you know there's probably limits to that but

00:43:26.020 you know it's going to be fun this has been a premium solution far more premium than only fans

00:43:31.080 fully branded uh you know access to the creator conversation different content giveaways a lot

00:43:38.040 stuff that's not offered on their system yep but you don't really have to talk about subify here

00:43:42.740 because you're seeing it catch on i'm seeing more and more creators start to sign up for subify more

00:43:47.220 and more creators are putting out bryce hall is absolutely crushing it on subify i love the kid

00:43:51.480 great kid who else we've got a number of people yeah we like you've been talking we like to keep

00:43:56.400 a little loan on the radar and let you guys take the credit for it but yes we've been doing very 0.99

00:44:00.280 very well and and and bryce hall is like you know shout out all those tiktokers a lot of people in 1.00

00:44:04.860 the the space says tiktokers can't make no money they like typecast them you know what i'm saying

00:44:08.800 they're like oh that's just no problem young man is not only killing it but like we we have 0.98

00:44:13.760 algorithms that run all the data to see what people are saying people are enamored by it he

00:44:18.820 is in love with it like the message he sends me is like bro it's so nice to be me i'm constantly

00:44:23.800 ridiculed this is like dope yeah and it's like it also for someone like us gets to i get to see like

00:44:29.400 these kids shine and there's something really it's just like you guys it's something really cool to

00:44:33.500 watch amazing people in the cut like crafting their excellent it's like it's intimidating but

00:44:40.160 inspiring right instead of being around shit people all day you're watching someone who does 0.59

00:44:44.320 something completely different than you crush it you know i just talk about my sex life on there a 0.98

00:44:48.220 but that's what these people want to hear my club manager yeah cool because it's still i won't do

00:44:53.020 it but like that's what i'm saying that that 10 of my life that i never wanted to show online

00:44:57.560 for the maverick yeah but yo this this this subscription conversation is very interesting

00:45:02.720 uh because this the shift to subscription although i still feel early yep very early

00:45:11.260 i feel like it's been going on forever like we saw netflix crush it like do you remember when you

00:45:16.020 subscribe to netflix to get dvds mailed to your house and and and i'm just wondering why it took

00:45:21.960 so long and for even like amazon prime to just for people to catch on prime's probably the big

00:45:28.340 to the subscription service and and what what is it about subscription is it the recurring

00:45:32.600 guaranteed revenue is it uh the community the fan base what is it i mean i think it's a little

00:45:38.880 bit of everything i think the the guaranteed revenue gives the creator safety to keep doing

00:45:45.540 great things for them right it's not like a you know i might get a brand deal this month or i

00:45:50.360 might have my video get placed at the highest on the the home page or the whatever page so people

00:45:55.060 see it this is like giving you stability stability that is in a wildly crazy environment full of

00:46:01.240 emotions and i think it's something that you guys need and as for a customer of it i look at subify

00:46:07.880 as like an addition to like a netflix in my opinion i look at it like if i want to create

00:46:13.640 watch a creator create, I would love to also learn more about them and have a conversation with them

00:46:19.680 and go deeper down that hole because there's a reason I'm watching them create. There's a reason

00:46:24.460 I like their movies. There's a reason I like their craft and athletes or sports or entertainment.

00:46:29.840 And I think that when you allow people to have a purpose to the content that they're consuming,

00:46:35.660 greatness comes from it. Like I think one of the greatest things ever happened was podcasts.

00:46:39.300 I think it took people away from the normalities of how they ingested their information and they

00:46:45.020 got it from someone that they can relate to because that's all success that's all you know 0.89

00:46:49.860 finding that higher power is is fucking with someone that you relate to that's doing what

00:46:54.560 you want it's not like oh that guy's successful I want to be like him it's something you truly 0.90

00:46:58.600 vibe with their core and then they they raise you up as they're going up right and so I'm watching

00:47:04.800 it happen every day. I mean, listen, you were amazing steward of all of this. I don't think

00:47:09.480 we could have picked a better person. So God bless you. You're an amazing human being. I owe

00:47:13.160 you my life for that. And you really just set the bar really high. And to believe it or not,

00:47:18.920 shout out to you and all the creators work with, you're a common thesis in most of these people's

00:47:23.740 conversations with us. They're like, I'm really impressed with how Logan has changed his flow.

00:47:28.900 He's always on top of things. I'm in his club right now. That guy posts crazy amounts. Do I

00:47:34.040 got to post like that i'm like you're gonna want to and and they're always like but i'm busy and

00:47:38.360 then they launch and then all of a sudden what are they doing you're posting you make time yeah

00:47:43.080 because it's like people feed off who doesn't want to be treated good in this crazy world right who

00:47:48.720 doesn't so look bro you're obviously massively successful subify's taken off the the watchers

00:47:56.700 group take is taken off you made little pokemon cards here uh yes subscription model for you has

00:48:02.220 been a success and yeah you still managed to have so much fun dude you you've taken me on on dirt

00:48:10.180 biking excursions uh you've you've gifted me a dirt bike there's multiple of them uh you've let

00:48:16.200 me use your rv to go to to go to june lake um drift bikes that thing which i accidentally flipped

00:48:21.800 i flipped your can-am i'm sorry so you still managed to be a kid is what i'm saying and i've

00:48:27.020 always admired that about you is like there's never there's never not room for fun never in

00:48:31.980 your life does this keep you young healthy spry is this what is this why you do the things you do

00:48:37.720 and work as hard as you do absolutely this is choice this is this is you know breaking up the

00:48:43.040 noise of the day and when you get to do fun things to your friends that like take your mind away from

00:48:46.480 things it's really excuse me really fun i mean look dude you got the cars you got the dog the

00:48:51.800 house and the family and your baby looks like mini me in this particular one because you are

00:49:00.580 a family man too. And, uh, you're doing it right, man. You, you really made it out of the woods.

00:49:05.840 It's goddamn crazy. The thing is, is it is crazy to be honest with you. You know, like I look back 0.99

00:49:11.660 at it now and I'm definitely truly grateful, but the honest, the thing is it's, it's all about

00:49:16.020 meeting the right people, getting in the right scenarios. And it's not just what you learn from

00:49:20.960 them. Like in the business world, it's like, what do they teach you about as a human being?

00:49:24.620 Cause actually business and all this isn't all that difficult. It's the time in between the

00:49:27.880 business? Like, how'd your day go? How's your relationship going? How's your family going?

00:49:32.580 Because how are you good at business if you're not good at life? And so like forever in my

00:49:36.540 business journey, I was like, I need to be the best businessman, work, work, work, work. And I

00:49:40.480 was just like this broken individual. I'm like, oh, why isn't this working? I'm like, oh, because

00:49:43.900 I'm a boat with a hole in it, right? No matter how, how many times I go on the lake, bitch sinks 1.00

00:49:48.220 till I fix my problem. I couldn't do anything. And so for me, it's just, you know, keeping it 1.00

00:49:54.020 all together and honestly everybody has a different version of success my version is i get to be

00:49:59.560 exactly who i am quirky weird off-putting whatever and everybody accepts me for it because i do better 0.97

00:50:07.180 good than harm do you have fuck you money someone asked me this earlier and like my answer to it 0.98

00:50:14.980 i'll give you my answer to it as a child looking up now i would probably say yes but as someone 0.99

00:50:21.240 living in the moment i'd say i just watched that justin's son guy spent 69 million dollars on the

00:50:27.940 people piece do you know what that made me feel like you know like these guys like it went 13

00:50:33.040 million 25 million like oh i got more 50 million 60 million like the first and nft in auction by

00:50:41.620 people's crap it first off the guy's crushing it this isn't his only like he went from selling

00:50:47.500 like $100 pieces. So like, I think he worth a hundred million now. Yep. Yep. And NFT. So for 0.98

00:50:51.940 $69 million, it's his first, his first 5,000 days. And who, who bought it? Justin. It said

00:51:00.460 on the top, Justin Tron, the guy who followed, uh, built Tron, like the T, you know, TRX coin.

00:51:05.580 It was like a crypto. I mean, it's, it is a crypto, but yeah, he bought it.

00:51:09.080 Supposedly he's got like a net of 400 and I'm like, I'm looking at, cause at first I was like,

00:51:13.420 This had to be a guy with a couple of B's.

00:51:16.020 And somebody said he was, let's see what it says, $410 million.

00:51:20.140 And I was like, dude, did I have $410 million and spend $70 million on some digital art?

00:51:24.280 I don't know, man.

00:51:25.440 He definitely got more than $400 million, dog.

00:51:28.160 That's a lot of money to be spending.

00:51:29.860 I'm going to go ahead and say he probably has more.

00:51:31.720 I mean, he's in the crypto game.

00:51:33.040 I'm like, what do they not know that he has?

00:51:34.840 But simultaneously, look at it like this.

00:51:36.880 This was sold at Christie's.

00:51:38.740 This is literally, like when you Googled, how many major publications had that up?

00:51:42.000 Like all of them?

00:51:42.760 All of them, yeah.

00:51:43.420 So do you think that that's still worth $69 million or it's already even

00:51:47.240 increased?

00:51:47.760 Oh, it's appreciated already.

00:51:49.360 So it might just be a guy who's got a ton of money in coin and they want to

00:51:53.920 move some stuff around and offset their risk, right?

00:51:56.180 What happens if Bitcoin goes down?

00:51:57.840 People ain't.

00:51:58.820 He paid in Ethereum, it looked like, right?

00:52:01.060 Yeah, same thing.

00:52:02.020 I wonder what the gas looked like on that.

00:52:03.920 Oh my God.

00:52:04.840 Supposedly they're eliminating it.

00:52:06.000 And obviously, well, I don't know when this episode comes out,

00:52:08.040 but by the time it comes out, maybe they've eliminated the gas fees,

00:52:10.400 but they're looking to eliminate gas fees on ETH.

00:52:12.240 also also i gotta say watching uh people succeed in this way is so cool to me um his his name is

00:52:21.640 mike the same as you actually mike winkleman and and we've gone back and forth on dms a couple a

00:52:27.180 couple times uh because we both got into the nft space at the same time and then he went i mean

00:52:33.000 exponential i'm like hey man what's it like up there but i was following him before nfts were

00:52:41.000 were popular and i think there's something so powerful in acknowledging persistence yep they're

00:52:48.480 called every days for a reason yeah this dude i mean talk about it's every day bro has been making

00:52:54.680 this digital art a new piece every single day for 13 years 13 years before a piece sold for 69

00:53:05.020 million everyone's like who is this guy no he's been doing this forever that persistence is so

00:53:11.400 inspiring to me and just like he obviously loves what he does and finally it's paying off in the

00:53:17.020 biggest way possible like who knows what this is going to become of this piece like is this

00:53:22.820 is this the modern day picasso like straight up in a hundred years they'll be like yes people was

00:53:28.420 the guy making digital art with with with a subtle commentary about society within almost all of his

00:53:34.220 pieces like i don't know man that's so cool to me the mona lisa as they say honestly digital mona

00:53:39.860 lisa and you can't even touch it you know that you don't it's digital this world is crazy you

00:53:45.740 know i look at you know people are going why are all these people buying it you know like one of

00:53:49.620 my thesis were that you know if you're familiar with like the weed game again back to we know uh

00:53:55.900 in in uh colorado a lot of these people have legitimate businesses stuff like that but they

00:53:59.920 can't bank the money right so they buy these expensive bongs they're like half a million

00:54:05.440 dollars and they don't use them they just hold them and get them insured as art and it's a way

00:54:09.960 for them to kind of like insure their money and chase we're talking about money laundry why are 0.95

00:54:14.120 we beating around the correct just use the fucking word correct you're a hundred percent right so 0.94

00:54:20.840 what i'm what i what it looks like to me and i what do i fucking know yeah they're cleaning the 0.97

00:54:25.180 cash there it is that's it they're just moving it for an offset of tax it's like every there's 0.80

00:54:30.720 so someone wrote a stat i don't know if this is true but they someone said that there's more

00:54:34.520 people that have 10 million dollars there's more bitcoin wallets with 10 million dollars or more

00:54:39.720 in money than there are bank accounts with 10 million dollars more in money that wouldn't

00:54:44.200 surprise me it's wild i've been thinking about this a lot lately there's a lot of people out

00:54:48.660 there who got in really early there's a lot of people out there who were pizza delivery guys or

00:54:53.780 people that were you know fitness trainers who said you know i heard about this thing it's called

00:54:58.500 bitcoin i dropped like 30 000 and in 2013 oh yeah what's the 30 000 worth now 900 million you know 0.69

00:55:06.580 what i'm saying like what the fuck did you just say to me 900 like dog this is this is uh the do

00:55:14.300 you remember the um san francisco boom when facebook went went public and google went public 0.98

00:55:20.120 and they had a housing shortage because everyone was buying these 40 million dollars yeah this is

00:55:25.520 that on a galactic level yeah this is gonna change finance wealth not just on earth but in the galaxy 0.89

00:55:33.600 bro there's gonna be aliens on planet people spending fucking millions of of galactoid coins 0.94

00:55:40.480 on fucking some house like this is wild what is it gonna do to the overall economy like is there 0.98

00:55:46.220 enough money here to inflate deflate move around how people actually act in the economy as a whole 0.99

00:55:52.460 you know to be honest with you i think you know bitcoin has the chance to like kind of save

00:55:56.620 everything right you know if you if you understand dollars and currencies of nations uh they're

00:56:01.900 they're inflated because there's not enough of them right because the gold didn't do it

00:56:06.280 then trust didn't do it and they just realized that there's not enough financial metrics for

00:56:10.860 everybody to have money people always like they don't teach us how to make money in school i'm

00:56:15.080 like, yeah, dipshit, that's purposeful because all they would have to do, you want to solve like 0.85

00:56:19.860 poverty. If you have a child, it's illegal to not put $500 in a Vanguard account and lock it up for 0.98

00:56:26.360 50 years. That would stop generational poverty overnight. It really would because that compound

00:56:33.020 interest would change everything. There's not enough vessels. So like I always make jokes

00:56:37.180 because people like the stock market's going to take us. I'm like, no, the derivatives market

00:56:41.060 would do that first. And people are always like, well, a Bitcoin is a fraction of one

00:56:45.300 and that will never work. I'm like, well, a dollar is a fraction of a derivative and a

00:56:49.500 derivative is what actually runs the planet. So I truly think this is a way where more people get

00:56:55.200 a seat at the table. More people can trade these things back. I think that they're going to start

00:57:00.120 going and convert them into commodities. So there'll be like an orange coin. There'll be a

00:57:03.820 gas and petroleum coin. There'll be a soy. And what it will do is it will open a new capital

00:57:09.160 market to grow these arenas simultaneously, while instead of it being like a swap, two big banks,

00:57:15.680 one taking massive leverage side against the other, it's 200 million people on both sides.

00:57:20.760 So it's spread out and it won't cause ruckus. And the funny thing is it brings me to this point

00:57:26.040 when people are always like, oh, this is a bubble. Like it's a bubble. This is going to end. It's

00:57:31.000 going to come crashing down. And my answer to it is, is that even for real? Are bubbles for real?

00:57:36.800 what do you think about that i think they can be we've seen it happen with the markets before but

00:57:42.440 but bubbles are bubbles until the bubble pops but once the bubble pops it still goes back up

00:57:47.460 historically you're at over there you go time so yes the short-term bubbles exist and if you're a 1.00

00:57:53.540 pussy they could fuck you up because you sell your positions at a lower price 1.00

00:57:58.280 but if you're not a pussy and you hold on to your coins diamond fucking you got diamond hands then 1.00

00:58:04.200 over time over time and and obviously that's this is not financial advice i can't say that that's 0.99

00:58:09.460 certainly going to happen with the with the with the coins yep but with the stock market historically

00:58:13.740 as dave portnoy famously says stocks only go up yep they only go up they historically have only

00:58:20.240 gone up and so i i now once i saw institutions see that was the thing for me yep chase hero had

00:58:25.820 been telling me for years thanks the guy the guy before chase hero jake paul had been telling me

00:58:30.600 before him before jake paul it was some fucking nerdy kid who said i think ethereum will change 0.79

00:58:35.280 world's head was massive because his entire body power went to his brain you're talking about what's 0.95

00:58:39.340 his name fucking yeah the dude who started theory i can't even think of his name right now vitamin 0.93

00:58:43.680 and this is me i'm just like yeah sure man yeah sure man yeah sure man then they're like 0.98

00:58:50.320 barclays has invested 98 billion dollars in the bitcoin i'm like i'm in tesla tesla tesla i'm in

00:58:56.520 i agree you know what i'm saying like fiduciary so like you know it's their fiduciary duty of

00:59:00.860 their shareholders and their clients to do what's best for them so they would have to assume

00:59:04.700 that with their research that they're making a sound investment because they have to prove that

00:59:09.040 thesis like wall street don't play sec don't play they why'd you do it you know what what's the

00:59:14.460 thesis here right so i truly i'm with you i think listen the reason i was saying the bubbles is

00:59:19.180 because i think bubbles are made up for retail investors i think bubbles are caused purposely

00:59:26.420 by institutional money because it's the way to shake people out of their positions because like

00:59:32.260 i said there's never been enough money to go around and when they see people starting getting

00:59:36.400 too much of it they're like oh we got to shake shut it down correct i mean look what happened

00:59:39.840 with game stock and like let me this is why i believe we're going to go through some turbulent

00:59:44.560 times then great ones but there's turbulent along the way what's game stop at today it's hot dude 0.99

00:59:49.660 it's at like 350 400 no no it's back up yeah no it's fucked it's fucked yes if i just held 0.99

00:59:57.480 i'd be rich yeah it's crap shout out my uh my options wait would they have expired anyway 0.99

01:00:04.200 they expired worthless yeah yeah but but if you yeah but had hard shares you'd have been fine 0.92

01:00:08.420 but my point is never in a time in our life has there been the freedom of an average person to

01:00:16.260 be able to buy something they like that has normally only been set for not wealthy elite

01:00:22.440 but people who have some bread yeah like normally if you want to like invest money in like you know

01:00:26.440 td or something like they're like okay 25 000 start with 25k you know like people like i've

01:00:31.480 have 800 in double savings accounts combined six years to 26 years to save it the thing is is that

01:00:37.760 we talk about this in a very utopian uh sense and this idea that you know wealth can get spread to

01:00:44.140 the common man, but the oldest story on this planet prior to anything else, except for maybe

01:00:50.220 Adam and Eve is the haves and the have nots. That is just the way the world has worked since the

01:00:54.720 beginning of time. You're either a have or you're a have not. So I like to think that this

01:01:00.200 decentralized currency and finance system could push us through that and, and, and rock that

01:01:05.760 system to a point where maybe it's the, everybody kind of haves a lot of kind of haves maybe,

01:01:10.740 or whatever it turns into but the haves don't back down very easily and and for all of history 0.96

01:01:19.040 the haves have been able to weaponize in a way to push the have-nots back in in on their heels

01:01:24.640 make them fall back and have to defend themselves and then retreat it's happened every time right 1.00

01:01:29.020 and so i'm really curious to see like if the have-nots are able to pull it off this time 0.55

01:01:33.500 and what the actual fallout looks like as a result of that well i mean you know if the gme stuff

01:01:39.520 happened the fallout would have been we would have fucked the clearinghouse up i mean it we

01:01:43.520 all laugh because we would have made a few million bucks but to what avail to a gallon of gas costing 0.52

01:01:49.140 100 grand to like the atms running out of money the thing is is people like everything to be real

01:01:55.620 and open until it gets real and open and they're like oh shit this is really scary because the

01:02:00.600 thing is i don't think any of us truly understand what it takes to run like a fluid economy right 0.95

01:02:05.140 no my brain explodes when i try to think about it right yourself

01:02:11.440 of course but people like to make believe they do no no people like to make believe they do

01:02:17.860 we've seen so many experts come out of the gme and amc boom and they're like listen this is what

01:02:21.840 needs to happen for us to fix this problem we have and trust me this will work in that dog like 0.99

01:02:26.280 they they want to go and talk shit about paulson they want to go talk shit about all these 0.99

01:02:31.080 people that have worn buffett and all these people that have fucking devoted their lives and that's 0.99

01:02:35.960 why i was always i always have trouble with the portnoy buffett uh clash yeah because like as

01:02:42.420 much as i respect portnoy for his for his uh tenacity and his ability to take on the the suits

01:02:49.040 first of all he's missing a couple zeros for that conversation let's be honest buffett shut

01:02:54.360 i'm sorry i'm just gonna say it but also but also like we've seen portnoy go through the

01:03:00.180 The barstool phase, we've seen him go through the sportsbook phase.

01:03:03.060 It's not a phase, mom.

01:03:04.540 The sex tapes phase, we've seen him go through a lot of phases.

01:03:07.360 Wait, he's got a sex tape? 0.77

01:03:08.220 Oh, yeah. 0.89

01:03:08.820 He's got a few out there.

01:03:09.660 He's out there just doing it.

01:03:10.800 Oh, he's got a few out there.

01:03:11.920 So it was always tough for me to see that Warren Buffett devoted his entire existence

01:03:15.620 on this planet to the building of wealth for himself and other people.

01:03:20.400 Correct.

01:03:21.240 And so it's just, what?

01:03:22.700 Mostly for himself.

01:03:23.620 Is that what you're going to say?

01:03:24.480 Yeah.

01:03:26.080 The thing is, what I've come to find out is wealthy people are really good

01:03:30.100 it's spreading the narrative the way they see fit. Sure. What happens if the real Warren Buffett

01:03:34.540 just decimated small businesses on his way? And really the only thing that ever got publicized

01:03:39.220 was like the triumphs. I mean, is that the first time the news ever lied? Right. So, I mean, I look

01:03:44.140 at it like everybody should be out there trying to make their life better. They shouldn't, Dave

01:03:50.660 shouldn't, you know, you know, put himself to Buffett or anybody else because they don't have

01:03:56.200 the same facilities it's like the only people that you can fairly compete against is yourself

01:04:00.580 right because you have the same everything i there was a really smart guy who talked about this i'm

01:04:04.840 losing his name right now but he's talking about like how can you measure yourself against someone

01:04:09.680 else when you both have completely different makeups right it's like an unfair battle and

01:04:14.920 you're just choosing to have that one because it feels advantageous for you if if that makes sense

01:04:18.800 i think that's an albert einstein maybe it is because he's a smart theory of relativity you

01:04:22.740 No, I think you was talking about how the, are you talking about when the teachers are talking about taking a test and the students are, their strengths are in different things?

01:04:30.820 Like trying to tell a fish to climb a tree.

01:04:33.440 Similar to that.

01:04:34.180 It's like, it'd be like saying like, if, if, if Mike and I were put to a challenge, we, we, we, we, you know, we look like we're sound individuals.

01:04:40.040 We were successful.

01:04:41.100 Yeah.

01:04:41.340 True. 1.00

01:04:41.840 We're both kind of fucked up. 1.00

01:04:42.960 That was wrong. 1.00

01:04:43.920 Logan and George, Logan and George.

01:04:47.560 Right.

01:04:47.880 But if you put them both to the same challenges, you're like, compete the same way.

01:04:51.720 Why aren't you doing the same thing?

01:04:53.140 Well, they don't have the same capacity to win against each other, right?

01:04:57.020 Where did that quote come from?

01:04:58.540 It looks like this quote came from Albert Einstein. 1.00

01:05:01.000 Everybody's a genius, but if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid. 1.00

01:05:05.920 Great job, George. 1.00

01:05:06.980 Great job.

01:05:07.500 You know, so I remember that is because I'm very dyslexic.

01:05:10.520 You're the fish.

01:05:11.760 I was the fish.

01:05:12.680 A nice student aide 1.00

01:05:15.240 A girl who doesn't even teach in school 1.00

01:05:17.400 Her name is Mrs. Love 1.00

01:05:19.060 I'll shout her out 0.99

01:05:19.880 I felt like I was very stupid 0.99

01:05:21.640 I was in a resource class 0.97

01:05:22.820 And she was the only one that believed in me

01:05:24.980 And not even a teacher was like

01:05:27.420 Yo, this kid is having trouble reading

01:05:28.800 So she took the test for me

01:05:30.760 She read it

01:05:31.900 And she would just ask me the question

01:05:34.240 I would answer it verbally

01:05:35.160 And I tested in a 9th grade ability

01:05:38.400 When you were in high school?

01:05:40.240 Oh, I was like

01:05:40.900 He was in high school and I tested the ninth grade and that's when I got held back.

01:05:49.020 No, but that was, that was a, it changed my life.

01:05:51.120 And then she showed me that picture and I never forgot it.

01:05:53.740 And I said, you know what?

01:05:54.820 I've just been taking the wrong tests.

01:05:57.260 This crypto conversation is interesting to me.

01:05:59.460 We got a group chat.

01:06:00.740 You're, uh, you're big into crypto.

01:06:02.120 You made some money in crypto.

01:06:03.200 There was a point when you came on the podcast last time where you were, uh, uh, putting

01:06:07.300 $25,000 into Bitcoin.

01:06:08.880 A coin a day.

01:06:09.580 Every day.

01:06:10.040 Still doing it.

01:06:10.900 A coin a day or $25,000?

01:06:12.580 $25,000. 0.99

01:06:13.280 Well, if I fuck a coin a day, it's so much. 0.99

01:06:15.980 Yeah, it's expensive. 1.00

01:06:16.680 I think you're being a bitch, bro. 1.00

01:06:20.240 Bro, you definitely can afford a coin a day, bro. 1.00

01:06:22.940 Facts. 1.00

01:06:23.440 You should fucking- 1.00

01:06:24.060 I stick to my routine. 0.99

01:06:25.140 But when I first started in like, you know, November-ish, whatever, it was like 1.2 Bitcoin

01:06:29.500 when I was buying, you know?

01:06:30.700 And now it's like 0.3.

01:06:33.500 But I'm still doing it because again, listen, I made this funny joke that there is a really

01:06:39.040 good chance that i have a better chance becoming a billionaire from bitcoin than my own career that's

01:06:44.540 wild right like that's why because didn't tesla make more money last year or they made more money

01:06:50.320 on their bitcoin investment than they did actually selling automobiles yeah last year in the first

01:06:55.040 two months they made more money in the bitcoin return than they made on their entire last year

01:06:59.240 selling automobiles correct it's crazy so what do you do for a living i'm not sure bro i swear to

01:07:03.780 Yeah, when Andre Jit came on this podcast and said, you're making more money.

01:07:09.600 What did he say?

01:07:10.360 He said, you're basically losing money by not investing in Bitcoin.

01:07:12.840 I was like, that doesn't make any sense.

01:07:14.640 And now I'm investing.

01:07:15.900 We got a group chat.

01:07:16.560 Yeah, we got a group chat.

01:07:18.040 You have a group chat?

01:07:19.120 Yeah.

01:07:19.820 Uh-oh.

01:07:21.660 It's called the dip buyers, bro.

01:07:23.020 We buy dips.

01:07:23.760 I know.

01:07:24.400 He's saying it every time.

01:07:25.300 I'm still not invited in this.

01:07:27.260 Do you invest in any other coins?

01:07:29.120 Alt coins?

01:07:29.700 Anything?

01:07:30.280 Yeah, yeah.

01:07:30.660 So, you know, because I couldn't keep my head around all the NFTs, right?

01:07:34.840 Because there's just so many everywhere.

01:07:36.320 It's going to get worse.

01:07:36.780 Top shots.

01:07:37.500 So I bought Dapper Labs.

01:07:39.700 Flow?

01:07:40.960 You bought Flow?

01:07:42.080 I did.

01:07:42.460 We just talked about this.

01:07:43.560 I bought Flow.

01:07:44.220 Yeah?

01:07:44.600 I love her. 1.00

01:07:45.260 She kills it in the commercial.

01:07:46.120 And here's the thing I like about Flow.

01:07:47.480 And like, I'm going to give you my two cents on it.

01:07:50.380 I think it's going to rocket ship.

01:07:53.700 And here's why.

01:07:54.660 Is this financial advice?

01:07:56.020 Hell no.

01:07:57.240 Do I look like a financial person? 0.99

01:07:58.980 I'm like, I got a pussy pink poncho, dude.

01:08:03.260 But what I like about it is you have to, it's international.

01:08:06.000 So I like to use my international office to purchase it, right?

01:08:08.280 Oh, I know.

01:08:08.880 Yeah.

01:08:09.080 So what happens when it comes to US? 0.68

01:08:12.060 US are gluttonous consumers.

01:08:14.640 We're just, we're that way.

01:08:16.120 Give it to me and give it to me right now, right?

01:08:18.480 They're consuming these NBA top shots.

01:08:20.720 But most of these people are like, what's a top shot?

01:08:23.180 I agree.

01:08:23.800 I was still kind of like, what's a top shot?

01:08:25.560 Sure.

01:08:25.640 But I understand what a coin is that owns those top sheds or push them.

01:08:29.880 There it is.

01:08:30.400 I like the underlying.

01:08:31.380 I think it's safer, right?

01:08:32.500 Like, I think that hype can be found around secular items, but it's pushed away when you

01:08:39.280 make it very versatile.

01:08:40.440 And they have all these brands.

01:08:42.360 OMI, I think, is like another one.

01:08:44.580 Bro, bro. 1.00

01:08:45.940 Fuck. 1.00

01:08:46.640 Am I good? 1.00

01:08:47.280 What are you saying?

01:08:48.180 You have the same weird little coins that no one's ever heard of yet as me.

01:08:53.220 You have Omi?

01:08:54.500 Yeah, bro. 1.00

01:08:55.180 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:08:56.340 I want a bunch of that 1.00

01:08:57.260 because I like that.

01:08:58.960 Pokemon.

01:09:00.820 Y'all definitely talked about this.

01:09:02.660 No, on my kids.

01:09:04.620 Because I got in on Omi

01:09:06.580 and then I saw some stuff

01:09:08.120 that I liked a little bit better

01:09:08.880 so I got out.

01:09:09.860 But I probably,

01:09:10.680 now that you said it,

01:09:11.680 I'll probably get back in.

01:09:13.040 Yo, Omi,

01:09:13.800 this is not financial advice.

01:09:15.440 You know where Omi's at right now, right?

01:09:17.240 It's like fractions.

01:09:18.440 It's hundreds of a penny.

01:09:19.540 It's .003.

01:09:22.400 They didn't pay me to do this.

01:09:23.480 They should.

01:09:24.020 I'll reach out to them.

01:09:24.700 but we'll take free coins it's like a it's like a fraction of a cent of a cent that's the coin that

01:09:30.100 should the infrastructure and the model pop in the way that i think it will uh because it's based on 0.97

01:09:35.640 the vv nfts who has ip out the fucking ass because that's where i think this nft i do believe it is a 0.95

01:09:43.180 little bit of a bubble right now but i believe the ones that will power through will be based 0.99

01:09:46.400 around ip correct ip yeah and the ones they have are crazy even dapper labs who you mentioned yeah

01:09:52.180 it's all ip yep i believe i believe they might have uh ufc i believe that's up next yo now i'm 0.79

01:10:01.440 in top shots i don't i'll fucking take your highlights but i will buy the highlight of 0.87

01:10:05.520 mcgregor knocking and so will everyone else like the one thing i will say about ufc and this is 0.93

01:10:10.340 this is why i like it you you just gave something that was huge why i like it is you know what ufc

01:10:15.320 fans pay they'd be like 70 bucks 299 99 97 799 488 and they're all just i gladly play it you

01:10:23.220 gladly pay it we all pay it so what's gonna happen when they can buy this other thing side note i

01:10:29.420 don't know how it's possible but ufc would be a great great client for subify because i was

01:10:36.520 watching like the izzy fight yeah and uh i was like damn i wonder like i would really love to

01:10:41.940 see some behind the scenes exclusive content of like what what it's like yeah what is all of it

01:10:47.700 like like i that's one of those things where they have the super fans everyone who buys a ufc fight

01:10:52.140 is like probably 85 of them are super fans correct watching every fight like me i think they're

01:10:57.700 missing out i agree on a premium subscription i agree we believe it or not we actually started

01:11:01.380 building something for them we were just going to send it over their way be like yo dana shout

01:11:04.760 out hit us up we'll take good care of you yeah now they're just going to hear about it instead

01:11:07.960 here on our show that's so i literally can't believe you just said those two uh those two

01:11:12.680 coins i want i want her if this is why we'll talk like it's funny when you say this but like

01:11:17.540 when i first met you i hadn't met you guys yet but when i first met you you know like

01:11:21.560 zach and i don't really mess a lot of people don't like go out of our wheels probably like

01:11:24.440 yourself right but when i met you i'm like god this guy is like impressive like people people

01:11:28.960 because you have to understand like what my expectations going into it were what i saw 0.66

01:11:33.400 online which is really fucked up like how how you used to be portrayed right but maybe some of it 0.80

01:11:38.800 just maybe some of it not right i get it i get my whole point is like people always like talk to you 0.91

01:11:43.260 he's like oh he's kind of full of himself he's like and i meet you i'm like but wait where's

01:11:47.020 that is that the other one like who is that right you know like but real talk like i met you i'm

01:11:51.280 like wait you're really well spoken you're super polite more than anything you're just a polite

01:11:55.960 human when i first met you treated me like i was like your homie out the jump and i you know you

01:12:00.480 always feel out of place in new places right but you're really brilliant fact factually thank you

01:12:05.620 bro i appreciate you keep your you know you keep your ear to the grindstone so i'm i think i'm the

01:12:11.680 one should be impressed but like it's just notable that you'd be in those two you know i got i got

01:12:16.260 good people around me i learn from my mistakes like it's a whole thing it's a thing right you

01:12:20.480 know and look at like people got you know and it's you know kind of not to go back to like the

01:12:24.720 club thing but like this podcast was like your first time giving someone really long-form content

01:12:31.760 into you seeing who you are more than this six minute little cycle all of you guys and you can 0.99

01:12:37.060 really build a relationship like oh i fuck with that person they're like damn you know so it's 0.98

01:12:41.860 fun it's fun to be talking about that it was so fun because i got like paragraphs of dms on my 0.99

01:12:45.760 first podcast like in it and i turned to them i was like oh they they never really knew they don't

01:12:50.840 know you they actually do not know you yeah and it's weird because we think they do but they

01:12:55.740 didn't well that's because the world controls your narrative the tabloids the news all those

01:13:00.880 control the narrative and and that's fine that's how the world goes but you should also at least

01:13:04.860 have somewhere where you get to control it too somewhat right yeah and that's the podcast format

01:13:08.540 yeah it's phenomenal you've got a place where you control uh the narrative a little bit and that's

01:13:13.100 the watchers group yep i got to hang out in it for the first time yeah yeah the other day it was

01:13:18.280 amazing. It's not only a way to, uh, get people to approach businesses one way, but also the way

01:13:24.020 they think about life, the way they act. And obviously there was a guy in the group that

01:13:28.260 shared a really, uh, touching story with me when I was in the group, which was awesome to see how

01:13:33.240 long you've been doing that for, how can people find it? Like talk to us about that for a hot

01:13:36.980 sec. Um, well, first off, hit me up on Instagram. We keep it pretty private. You know, we're always

01:13:40.800 just, you know, we don't make the family right. The reason it was so cool with you is like,

01:13:43.440 we vet everybody, you know, I don't, I don't want you to be a Wharton school business. I just want

01:13:47.340 you to be someone who like realizes you're not where you're at and you need help to get there

01:13:51.780 right because just like you said for us we believe 90 of this is fixing the broken in between the

01:13:56.840 business and then the business will come it's why we have like vinnie shorman you know shout out we

01:14:00.960 the same guy who used to hypnotize joe rogan and do all his mind stuff we hired him in house

01:14:05.820 for our clients to help them constantly work on their stuff right because like how do you take on

01:14:12.540 a really big challenge when you're broken?

01:14:16.840 Is it possible?

01:14:17.800 Well, the first challenge you have to take

01:14:19.060 in on is fixing yourself.

01:14:20.360 Correct.

01:14:20.900 Before anything else.

01:14:21.580 So we like to do that.

01:14:22.480 You know, a lot of these places are like,

01:14:23.720 go make $10 million tomorrow, start this.

01:14:26.680 And like my reality is like,

01:14:28.180 maybe that's a possibility,

01:14:30.140 an exception to the rule,

01:14:31.220 but I like to live by the rule.

01:14:32.540 So we just create a same thing,

01:14:34.140 a safe environment for people to ask real questions

01:14:36.780 from real people making money.

01:14:38.200 Not some kid on Clubhouse who's like,

01:14:39.800 how to make $10 million.

01:14:41.060 He's made eight bucks.

01:14:42.540 that was crazy that was crazy i was just in an nft chat today this morning and i had to like

01:14:49.020 leave because i was like y'all don't know nothing about this like at all and that was what i was

01:14:53.940 i'm like wow there are a lot of people are gonna go broke a lot of people are gonna get screwed 0.93

01:14:59.140 here that's why that's why it's the blind yeah i don't fuck with that app very much i think i think 0.88

01:15:04.040 there's a lot of self-proclaimed experts on that app the one reason i do like it is i'll scroll 0.93

01:15:09.600 past the nft chats i'll scroll past the how to be a creator chat and i'll go to the um how to shoot

01:15:15.960 your or like shoot your shot with like with like you know brooklyn girls only and i'll go in there

01:15:22.120 i'll be like yo what's up ma like what's popping and they're like boy like i like going to those 0.94

01:15:26.620 groups clubhouse has got a lot of groups to shoot your shot try to pick up like a milf we went into

01:15:32.640 one yesterday it's it's the title of the room was don't bother me if if you're not over six foot and

01:15:38.100 i can't climb you like a tree yeah i actually that was the title of the group i thought no

01:15:43.040 because i thought it was like don't enter if or this is a room for people who can climb trees

01:15:47.700 over six foot and we both were like oh we can we i love climbing of course we can do that i love i

01:15:52.500 try to get into the group trap but i think you didn't let me in it was really weird talking

01:15:55.880 about clubhouse which you probably also can't get on oh no i was invited a few times i hate it i 0.98

01:16:04.260 don't like i don't like the la like dude you have to be invited into the shit and i was like 0.91

01:16:09.140 the thing is what i do like about clubhouse is i think that it's like the first place people get 0.98

01:16:16.260 to really see how full of shit people are bro i don't i don't know i just don't that might be the 0.96

01:16:23.380 opening for the show but but i think it's actually a good thing because i think for a long time 0.99

01:16:29.380 again you don't really get to see a lot of content you get to see someone's instagram

01:16:32.820 60 second reel or a swipe up story like on clubhouse it's kind of like acapella it's like

01:16:38.460 if you suck at singing without auto we gonna find out we gonna find you and so someone gets called

01:16:44.380 up they're like well um well you know i believe that if um an n was with an f and a t we could 0.91

01:16:51.980 put an apostrophe s and there'd be plural you're like wait what did you just say like it's that

01:16:57.040 basic but again i think that what the greatest thing it's doing and i think it's the greatest

01:17:02.060 thing people need to know is you don't have to be something so amazing to get somewhere in life 0.99

01:17:07.720 most people are just cat shit and or dog shit and you got to be cat piss like just one level 0.99

01:17:14.680 above it and i think when people see all these other people that they hold this insane high 1.00

01:17:19.440 accord talk acapella like wait you're nothing you're just a person and it's like yeah on the

01:17:28.760 contrary, I have been

01:17:30.940 impressed. Highly impressed with

01:17:32.920 some select individuals.

01:17:34.880 Most of the people who I've had the pleasure

01:17:36.880 of coming across on Clubhouse are like,

01:17:38.940 I'm like, oh. Because you vet your groups.

01:17:40.940 I was going to say you are Logan Paul. I'm pretty

01:17:42.920 sure you're going in the right one.

01:17:44.620 What rooms are you going in? You're going to the tree climbing group?

01:17:47.100 Yeah, it's just that the groups exist.

01:17:48.940 And even in some of the top, and even

01:17:50.860 in some of the top groups, you know, the group

01:17:53.000 might be about influencer

01:17:55.100 marketing, because I'll jump into some of those.

01:17:56.620 sometimes just say, honestly, I'll sit there and I won't say anything. And like, I always wonder,

01:18:00.000 I'm like, do these people go through and see like, oh, that's Mike from impulsive, just sitting,

01:18:03.180 listening to some woman from a small cap company in Maryland, like selling influencer marketing

01:18:09.260 tips. And I'll go in and listen. And there's, there are a lot of smart people, but sometimes

01:18:13.620 what it is, is the moderator, the key, the core moderators for the group are the people with the

01:18:17.740 intelligence. And then sometimes you'll just get some like boneheads that jump. Oh yeah, absolutely. 0.67

01:18:21.540 it's a whole you know listen i'm a big fan of anything that connects us i think that the world

01:18:27.760 super divided and fragmented and anything that will connect us and take people's mind away from

01:18:32.440 all the chaos is like a good thing right you know like the the lulling chaos of the world slowly

01:18:37.200 dulling with things like clubhouse things like and i wonder if twitter space is going to make

01:18:41.600 a run at them or if it's just too late so let's go let's go we didn't even get to get into any of

01:18:47.400 like one time next time we have you on we should get into some of the juicy stuff because you got 0.92

01:18:51.800 a lot of stances too chase oh yeah we i don't even want a fucking i'm not in the mental space 0.84

01:18:57.280 to go there but me let's just say this the last time i was sitting on a very large private jet 0.94

01:19:03.480 flying over the mountains of colorado me and you got in a fucking malfunctioning fight for about 0.88

01:19:09.920 an hour and a half over some crazy about what nothing we please politics correct we're not 0.91

01:19:15.140 going to do this but i'm just saying maybe next time we have a great episode but wait one more

01:19:19.900 thing before we sign off here because this has been a great episode chase you're very inspirational

01:19:24.360 i'm i'm sure you know this i appreciate probably what part of the watchers group is right yeah

01:19:30.100 uh just getting people to believe in themselves i think i believe in myself a little more than i

01:19:34.380 did before this podcast started dylan made this you don't have to do five but chase heroes five

01:19:41.940 keys to being a hero. You don't got to do five. I like how you use that picture too. It's like,

01:19:46.240 it's probably the only professional looking picker I have headshot and all. It's the first

01:19:51.360 time I've ever seen you without a hat. I was going to say, I think that's why my wife married me.

01:19:54.220 And then I put my hat on right after and she goes, wait, what did I sign up for?

01:19:57.600 So look, do you have a, do you have maybe like three like inspirational? Oh, I got,

01:20:01.620 I got some good ones. Okay, cool. Here we go. Oh yeah. Number one, if you're bad at life and

01:20:08.480 bad at understanding people, go to college. Social acknowledgement and social understanding

01:20:15.260 of situations is vital in life. Number two, control your emotions. Every time you act out

01:20:24.900 of emotions, it leaves a negative impact to your life that is almost impossible to come out when

01:20:30.420 that logic is ahead. Number three, get out of the town that you were born in. That is so crucial in

01:20:39.200 life. Seriously, if you, those aren't necessarily your people, you were born there. Go find your

01:20:45.820 people. Next one, have people and only people around you that inspire you to be better. Get

01:20:53.880 rid of every single person in your life. And I mean every single person in your life that doesn't 0.95

01:20:59.440 make your flame shoot like

01:21:01.380 Elon Musk's flamethrower

01:21:03.560 last one

01:21:05.100 the most important

01:21:06.180 be yourself

01:21:08.380 someone in this world will love you for who you are

01:21:11.300 and you will find your lane if you try

01:21:13.320 hard enough and remember

01:21:14.800 we're all vessels of God

01:21:16.980 he's got our back no matter if you believe it or not

01:21:19.360 let's go

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