Impaulsive with Logan Paul - E312 Mike Posner Explains Why He Took A Pill In Ibiza

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00:02:12.340 If I could write you a song to make you fall in love, I would have you up under my arm.

00:02:18.620 You got it.

00:02:19.080 Yeah, for sure.

00:02:19.640 That's great, Mike.

00:02:20.420 Amazing.

00:02:20.960 It's so much better when he was singing.

00:02:22.360 Well, I just wanted to.

00:02:29.140 you don't feel your body starting to deteriorate because of age mr posner yeah i'm 33 dog

00:02:38.080 oh no that's young though mike yeah relative but relative to the rest of my life is old

00:02:46.540 well recently i'm the oldest i've ever been you ever throw that back out after making love

00:02:53.000 like it didn't used to happen man i can't even i can't even walk downstairs

00:02:58.140 36

00:03:00.840 Oh you geriatric gentlemen 0.83

00:03:03.440 Happy to be sandwiched between you 0.84

00:03:05.900 Yeah man I uh

00:03:07.140 I definitely feel it bro

00:03:08.440 Look hey

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00:03:27.200 I don't know

00:03:27.640 Listen, we got Mike Posner on the set

00:03:29.720 We got Mike Posner with us today

00:03:31.660 Here in Puerto Rico

00:03:32.520 Thank you

00:03:33.960 You're amazing, Mike

00:03:36.580 You texted me this morning, you're like, hey man

00:03:39.000 Wanna go for a run and a workout before the podcast

00:03:41.720 I didn't do it, by the way

00:03:43.320 I ran out of time

00:03:44.140 We went the wrong way from the airport

00:03:47.080 Did you come directly

00:03:49.680 From the airport here?

00:03:50.680 No, I'm gonna get that run after this

00:03:53.140 Okay, you're gonna do it

00:03:54.180 Bro, you got the gym set up pretty good

00:03:57.160 do you want to use my facilities yeah really yeah of course more than welcome to and ironically i

00:04:02.680 know what to do with all those punching bags all that stuff i could run you through a little

00:04:06.040 little workout dude you're doing it all you're really you're really you're really amazing man

00:04:10.700 your energy is so great kevin our videographer said when he came to pick us up because you

00:04:14.320 arrived here before we did sorry about that no no i was a little bit early so it's all good he said

00:04:18.980 he said dude he's amazing you know you've got he's like i think you got a great team around

00:04:23.080 I think the same about Kevin and Caleb

00:04:24.980 I was getting to talk to behind the cameras

00:04:27.500 Yeah

00:04:27.860 I think you surround yourself with some good guys

00:04:30.440 I felt the same about them

00:04:31.420 Do you ever have any negative thoughts

00:04:33.920 Or is it just all like pleasantries

00:04:35.520 Because when I saw you

00:04:36.740 Dude you walked up to me

00:04:38.220 You were smiling

00:04:38.760 You had an acoustic guitar in your hand

00:04:40.300 I think you were singing Kumbaya

00:04:41.480 To be honest with you

00:04:42.600 Like do you ever have like any negative thoughts

00:04:44.940 Yeah

00:04:45.340 I mean look

00:04:46.500 You ever hear somebody say like

00:04:47.880 If you see someone teaching yoga

00:04:49.640 Like that person needs yoga

00:04:53.060 yeah that's that's me man you know so i'm i'm like i'm into meditation and positive thinking but 0.50

00:04:58.860 um my default mode is is the opposite you know you want to kill everybody not that that hard

00:05:05.100 but it's more of like uh yeah you know uh no but it's more of like a um a resignation and i think

00:05:15.640 a lot of people it may be some guys on the couch behind the camera but certainly some of the people

00:05:20.100 listening know what it's like to wake up and just feel resign or withdraw from life uh sort of a

00:05:28.500 almost below the surface feeling of like i i had to do this but i shouldn't have to

00:05:35.660 that like that relationship towards your own life and uh that that's how i wake up you know most

00:05:42.000 mornings and uh you know we can talk about some of the adventures i've gotten into but those were

00:05:48.060 like those were like reasons to make me feel inspired about my own life gotcha gotcha but

00:05:54.680 had you not before mike because this is where it's so fascinating you you you have an amazing

00:06:01.000 and very successful music career at the highest level um some of your songs took a pill and a

00:06:07.700 be like hey like yeah go on tour always wanted to know how that day ended up did you actually

00:06:13.800 The Ibiza Day.

00:06:15.000 Did you do it because you wanted to feel cool?

00:06:16.880 Like, what was the actual reason?

00:06:18.800 We could sidebar that and then go back to your train.

00:06:21.920 But that song came about, you know, the version that's a hit is a remix.

00:06:28.780 And the original song is basically an acoustic song.

00:06:33.600 And it's very sad.

00:06:35.680 Did you write it for Justin Bieber?

00:06:37.440 No.

00:06:38.020 I wrote Boyfriend for Justin Bieber.

00:06:39.260 I knew that.

00:06:39.940 I knew that.

00:06:40.440 I Took a Pill in Ibiza is a song that

00:06:43.340 You couldn't sell to anybody

00:06:45.460 You know it's like the first few lines are

00:06:47.840 I took a pill in Ibiza to show Avicii I was cool

00:06:50.840 And when I finally got sober 1.00

00:06:52.440 Felt 10 years older but fuck it 1.00

00:06:54.060 It was something to do 0.99

00:06:55.100 And so it's kind of hard to pitch that to someone else

00:06:58.540 Because it only happened to me

00:06:59.800 But the story was basically like 1.00

00:07:02.220 That was a dumbass fucker 1.00

00:07:03.380 No but also I'll back you up a little bit 1.00

00:07:05.480 I assure you there's a few people

00:07:08.160 At least that can relate to that

00:07:09.400 Maybe you

00:07:12.240 No no no no 1.00

00:07:13.660 Fuck Dylan my producer bro 1.00

00:07:16.080 He wrote 2016 I took a pill and a bee's 1.00

00:07:18.360 It's one of the biggest songs in the world

00:07:19.480 And the first thing is Bieber passed on this 1.00

00:07:22.020 Fuck you Dylan 1.00

00:07:24.020 I thought we fired him after the 1.00

00:07:26.340 Island Boys episode

00:07:27.100 I gave him a chance because he brought me the Polaroid

00:07:30.260 Did Bieber pass on any projects that you wanted him to work on?

00:07:34.840 No

00:07:35.360 Yeah we did

00:07:37.200 The boyfriend record together

00:07:38.960 But basically the story of that song was

00:07:41.940 My first

00:07:42.920 I went to college

00:07:44.300 Duke University

00:07:45.560 I know you some Ohio boys

00:07:46.940 I was talking to Caleb

00:07:48.620 And I toured a lot in Ohio

00:07:50.460 But that's sort of besides the point

00:07:51.680 When I first started

00:07:52.560 And I wrote this song in my dorm room

00:07:56.020 It was called Cooler Than Me

00:07:57.100 If I could write you a song

00:07:59.160 To make you fall in love

00:08:01.000 I would 0.98

00:08:01.360 Have you up under my arm

00:08:03.720 You got it

00:08:04.200 Yeah, for sure

00:08:04.800 It was great, Mike

00:08:05.380 Amazing

00:08:05.960 It was so much better when he was singing

00:08:07.500 Well, I just wanted to

00:08:08.600 You sound

00:08:09.840 He sounded like a singer

00:08:10.800 You sound like the people

00:08:11.600 In the crowd

00:08:12.240 At the DJ 1.00

00:08:12.780 They're already fucked up 0.99

00:08:13.900 I'm so sorry 0.99

00:08:15.800 I'm so sorry

00:08:16.320 It's all good

00:08:17.520 You were saying?

00:08:18.120 I appreciate it

00:08:19.020 For the record

00:08:20.960 It's because he meditates

00:08:22.560 This song

00:08:23.340 This song came out

00:08:24.360 It was this giant hit

00:08:25.320 And

00:08:26.480 I thought

00:08:27.780 Well

00:08:28.500 That's just what happens

00:08:29.740 When I put out songs

00:08:30.740 Like it's my first single

00:08:31.900 And it's big

00:08:33.220 You know

00:08:33.600 And

00:08:33.860 I'm like

00:08:35.220 Touring around the world

00:08:36.540 Taking my shirt off

00:08:37.580 It shows

00:08:38.120 making more money than I deserve and then strange thing happened uh I put out another song after

00:08:44.800 that and it like wasn't really a hit and then the next one after that sort of like was even less of

00:08:50.680 a hit and this trend sort of just continued until my career was considered all the way over

00:08:57.180 would you say you fell off because that's the terminology yeah fell off hard and um people

00:09:03.100 you know called me a one hit wonder which always hurt but I guess on paper it was true at the time

00:09:08.560 I'd only had one hit and uh I went from being this this young cool guy who's like I said taking my

00:09:15.520 shirt off at shows to like just being at home in LA I'd made made a little bit of money but the

00:09:20.680 calendar was empty and it was nothing to do and um that's what I took a pill in Ibiza is about

00:09:27.280 I say I'm just a singer who already blew his shot I get along with old timers because my name's a 0.99

00:09:32.920 reminder of a pop song people forgot and uh avici bless his heart man he uh he always fucked with

00:09:41.840 me like when i was coming up in college he sent me levels i don't know if you guys the most 0.88

00:09:46.600 important it wasn't out yet he sent it to me he's like yo can you write something to this i tried 0.54

00:09:52.520 like three times like i wrote a bunch of shit wasn't good he ended up using the whoa sometimes 0.58

00:09:58.380 but he used that instead and it was perfect but point being he didn't he never cared unlike almost 0.97

00:10:05.780 everybody in the music industry he never cared if i was number one or number a million and so

00:10:12.620 in this period where i'm sitting at home with the empty calendar he asked me to work on his uh on

00:10:19.620 his album and he lived in sweden at the time so i flew there and i figured you know if i'm gonna fly

00:10:27.180 all the way there like I'm gonna make a little trip out of it and I knew he had some shows coming

00:10:31.440 up in Ibiza so we worked in a studio a few days and I said hey man can I go to a beat can I go

00:10:38.020 your show in Ibiza he was like yeah yeah and um I went there like a day before him and I got to

00:10:46.120 Ibiza I was alone and I was staying at this hotel all these people were on I don't know their version

00:10:52.740 the spring break or whatever they're drinking and my it was like the saddest thing ever i was just

00:10:59.800 there alone like look at all these people having fun and the next day uh tim vici came he played

00:11:07.500 the show and i was in the crowd and it's when i still drink i don't drink anymore and i started 0.67

00:11:14.360 just getting fucked up and uh i'm looking at at him on the stage and i was thinking like man like 0.94

00:11:20.620 i fucked this up man like that used to be me i wish it was still me and it's not and i'm just 0.98

00:11:27.100 like imagine like the sadness of this moment like i'm in the crowd like i'm just in the ga 0.98

00:11:32.220 fucked up at like his show by yourself by myself and i was i was actually like hoping somebody 0.85

00:11:42.180 this is so like embarrassing but i was hoping somebody would recognize me 0.93

00:11:46.320 to like validate

00:11:48.620 I don't know

00:11:50.100 make me feel good

00:11:51.040 like I wasn't

00:11:52.040 a failure

00:11:52.680 and

00:11:53.740 lo and behold

00:11:55.000 these guys did

00:11:56.300 they go 1.00

00:11:57.340 are you fucking 1.00

00:11:58.000 Mike Posener 1.00

00:11:58.840 I was like yeah

00:11:59.440 and

00:12:01.000 they were like

00:12:02.460 you wanna take one of these

00:12:03.860 and I was like

00:12:04.340 yeah

00:12:04.800 he gave me a thing

00:12:06.460 I don't even know

00:12:07.000 what it was

00:12:07.620 it was literally

00:12:08.800 just a pill

00:12:09.400 a pill and a visa 1.00

00:12:10.280 holy shit 0.99

00:12:11.100 I took it 0.99

00:12:11.560 and

00:12:11.880 yeah just like

00:12:12.800 the song said

00:12:13.460 I like

00:12:13.820 at this night

00:12:14.620 nothing really

00:12:15.420 happened 0.99

00:12:16.120 i went to some club was it pascha or whatever i went there it's up all night fucking grinding 0.95

00:12:21.360 my teeth and yeah i woke up the next day and i felt like hell yeah you know i felt like hell 0.84

00:12:28.220 and so that song is about that darkness or that low in my life and then like the infinite irony

00:12:35.440 of it all is these guys remix this like heartbreaking song and made it into a club

00:12:40.980 you know and it's like people in pasha like taking pills to it uh you know so on one end

00:12:49.300 it's like hilarious and like doesn't make any sense that situation that irony but on another

00:12:55.260 hand i could kind of zoom out and and put rose colored glasses and it's like are people having

00:12:59.800 happy times out of my sadness yeah for sure and as an artist you know it's what you guys do too 0.66

00:13:05.340 right you you've been through your fair share of shit all three of you and uh you know i haven't

00:13:11.680 watched like all your episodes but i've watched some of them it's enough to see like all you guys 0.96

00:13:16.580 open up and so point being as artists we try to take our suffering our pain our negativity

00:13:25.880 and make something beautiful out of it that's the alchemy art so when you share something

00:13:30.300 about your hard times and it helps someone out there that's your alchemy and and maybe with that

00:13:37.680 song somebody had some joyous moments out of out of my pain and that's my alchemy what was this

00:13:42.800 song the song to bring you back onto like the open up your calendar again yeah man that was

00:13:47.940 that was you know another part of the irony is it literally brought back that feeling yeah we're

00:13:52.560 missing that that that line i'm just you manifested the fuck out of that i'm just a singer who already

00:13:58.260 blew his shot you know i that's a line in the song and then all of a sudden i'm getting another 0.76

00:14:02.960 shot because i wrote that line it so didn't make taking your shirt back off again yeah let's go

00:14:07.940 that's like his like main like thing it's like dude i'm on tour i'm taking my shirt off every

00:14:13.140 just no shirts that's it i want my shirt off that's it so check this out i uh i recently have

00:14:25.300 um tried to come more to terms with being really comfortable with living and learning when you're

00:14:33.440 at that bottom when you have a moment in your life where you you definitely feel like some

00:14:38.460 momentum has been lost or maybe it is a um end of the road moment all is lost i think there's a lot

00:14:46.820 to be learned there i think if you can be open honest and you're really good at this as a lot

00:14:52.140 of artists are vulnerable and you look for areas to improve or areas where you can i don't know

00:14:59.280 really express yourself yeah it can lead to some amazing amazing results the biggest transformations

00:15:04.800 and metamorphoses i've had in my life are are from when i'm at that moment yeah and and in a weird

00:15:11.140 way i kind of look forward to failing now because i know what comes out it's the it's the only way

00:15:17.820 that I'm going to actually learn and apply change to my life that's right that's right and you and

00:15:22.500 it's so funny to to hear you saying this and you've always been so good at being vulnerable

00:15:27.840 like I said now you've parlayed it into using your experiences and being open about them to

00:15:33.760 make everyone else's life better right that's the mission you're on now yeah to a certain degree

00:15:38.720 you know it's like I feel look like basically when I was 22 I had cooler than me you know as

00:15:46.620 long as i didn't buy a bunch of lamborghinis you're gonna be set to work yeah yeah you're

00:15:52.740 gonna be set you know yeah and i'm not talking about like i don't live a crate like i drive a

00:15:57.000 four runner you know it's like i live a kind of simple ish life um so the point is

00:16:06.480 i feel like i got gifted the opportunity because like i got all these dreams come true and i'm

00:16:13.820 sure you guys felt this yourselves like all these all these great things happen i really thought

00:16:18.360 like when i was young when i was in college i was like man if i get this record deal get this hit

00:16:23.560 song like i'm gonna i'm gonna feel better i'm gonna feel like more secure and i know like everyone 0.69

00:16:28.540 told me like money doesn't buy happy i didn't fucking believe i'm like you didn't make enough 0.76

00:16:32.620 you know like my bar is higher that's such a funny you didn't make enough you know right and it's like 0.80

00:16:39.340 it didn't change anything it didn't make my life worse but my like immediate experience like the

00:16:46.520 way i went through the world was exactly the same and so i feel like i got gifted this opportunity of

00:16:51.800 of if that's not what life is about you know chasing chasing material or external things

00:16:58.700 then what is it about and that's been my quest the last several years and we you know we could

00:17:04.080 talk about like my walk yeah climb yeah and and my retreats and this kind of thing spending time

00:17:09.860 in solitude and it's not it's for me yeah of course like i want to do all those things i want

00:17:16.280 to see how i'm going to grow i know i'm going to fail somewhere along the way because it's too

00:17:22.320 they're too big a goal so like not fuck up something on the way but not just for me because 0.94

00:17:28.400 then it's selfish and then it's just like you're just a guy going yeah i fucking climb mount ever 0.99

00:17:32.800 it's like who i don't care you're a dick you know what i mean like and i'm sure you've experienced 0.98

00:17:39.500 have you ever met somebody who like has your goal or they like achieve something close to 0.97

00:17:44.600 what you're working on but they're not a cool guy the worst the worst and it's like okay i would

00:17:51.140 i've had moments where like i'm with people who climbed everest and they're terrible and i'm like

00:17:57.860 i would rather fail than then you know be a bad person and so like uh all that to say

00:18:07.320 i i go do these crazy things i'm on this this quest of life and uh i try to share what i learned

00:18:14.500 along the way you know because if i don't then it's just and that's part of why i'm here today

00:18:19.760 yeah yeah yeah and so thank you for that yeah of course opportunity to do so because if i don't 0.97

00:18:23.720 then it's just selfish you're just like making a list of shit you know to pat yourself on the back

00:18:28.340 you know we've been trying to have you on for a while as you know dude you were sending me videos 0.99

00:18:32.860 of you summiting fucking mount everest on instagram dms like selfie videos of him from 0.90

00:18:38.820 the top of mount no i said it for that was after i got down and i was safe yeah 0.98

00:18:43.060 but it was it was great because you were training for floyd at the same time

00:18:48.160 so i was just um you know like you make a decision to do something crazy like that

00:18:54.540 you know uh it can be lonely you know it's like a lot of people telling you crazy

00:19:00.540 and i'm speaking about you you know so it's like you whenever whenever i can find someone who's

00:19:07.080 like on their own version of craziness i like like to connect with them how is it over there 0.60

00:19:12.740 it's fucking lonely and everyone thinks i'm a lunatic me too all right everything checks out 0.95

00:19:18.780 you know it's like fake walkie talkies yeah those people are crazy yeah he was on mount everest 0.99

00:19:23.880 that's all they had fake walkie talkies mike when when when you came in here today you you uh you're

00:19:30.600 obviously in a dramatically different place than you were during uh the avici days and being in

00:19:36.020 abiza but even when you first sat down you mentioned um that most days you wake up with

00:19:41.600 this feeling of uh unfulfilledness or or or mad or loneliness so so there's there's a term called

00:19:49.080 dysthymia which is a low level depression do is there do you have a um did you feel that way your

00:19:55.160 whole life did you feel that way when you were a kid did you feel that way in your adolescence do

00:19:58.320 you have a any kind of chemical imbalance or have you ever been able to pinpoint what the

00:20:02.880 the catalyst is for that math feeling in your life uh nah it definitely sounds like something

00:20:09.820 i have this time this time this time this guy's good and by the way i only know because i suffer

00:20:15.240 from yeah a host of issues myself so that's why i know about it yeah um i don't know exactly

00:20:20.120 i i think when i was really young i don't remember high school yeah for sure for sure

00:20:25.360 high school i was sad but sad all the time yeah you know not just in the morning i have a question

00:20:31.800 tell me i i'm seeing a through line now and i know a couple artists and like the the patterns

00:20:36.800 repeat and your sadness uh i obviously like varies right but i can't imagine what it's like

00:20:43.740 everyone's different and your experiences are probably vastly different than mine but your

00:20:47.680 sadness um has yielded amazing amazing art that helps and has a ripple effect on the whole world

00:20:56.420 would you take away your sadness and then lose that talent that you have if you were always happy

00:21:04.460 or is the trade-off worth it for you it's a good question i wouldn't i wouldn't i wouldn't change

00:21:09.400 it uh but i don't think i think it's sort of a false dichotomy in that like you can be happy and

00:21:17.080 a great artist too you know it's like they say like for sure like like what if van gogh they 0.77

00:21:22.140 say like oh van gogh like wouldn't say he wouldn't cut off the ear and paint that dope shit but then 0.65

00:21:26.120 other people say like well what if he was healthy would have lived longer and painted more and so 0.99

00:21:31.120 i don't know um i think like in your question i wouldn't i wouldn't change it you know i wouldn't

00:21:37.520 change it um and my my grappling with it and like how i the man i've become i'm so proud of and like

00:21:45.720 whatever i can share from that from that grappling is i think worth it for others it makes you more

00:21:52.280 compassionate he said it earlier the heartbreak and trauma and desperation is like the the driver

00:21:58.260 of all the things that you learn in life and it's also uh the driver of a lot of your creative

00:22:03.680 intentions in life like you we talk to to pop and rock artists all the time they're like yo i force

00:22:08.960 myself into heartbreaking moments and pain to drive desperation that then breeds creativity

00:22:14.860 that's too much yeah i agree well i was gonna say is there's a balance right uh you know the

00:22:20.940 filmmaker herzog he's like the best documentarian you've probably seen grizzly man or some of his 0.94

00:22:26.080 films they're fire uh you suck he uh he um he has a quote he says the poet must not avert his eyes 0.84

00:22:34.660 the poet must not avert his eyes it's like what does that mean to me it means like you got to be 0.99

00:22:40.820 honest about life and reality and uh so that means like part of art isn't just isn't just pain it's 0.96

00:22:49.860 like it's finding the beauty in life like you put on fucking stevie wonder you know it's like

00:22:56.280 songs in the key of life that album like that's a celebration of life and not only is him him 0.91

00:23:04.560 seeing the beauty in life and then going look at it this way guys so that's also a part of art

00:23:11.460 right um it's like the painter paints the bowl of fruit it's like why they do that because they're

00:23:16.400 trying to show you how really fucking beautiful that bowl of fruit is when you're present and

00:23:20.660 you're not lost in your own head and so the poet must not avert his eyes it's like we're gonna look 0.91

00:23:27.060 at the beautiful parts of life and the ghastly and terrible and we're gonna look at them both

00:23:31.860 honestly but i think manufacturing pain and you know that's that's not out my friend in q will

00:23:39.820 say that that's not alchemy that's not turning pain into into something beautiful that's turning

00:23:45.040 pain into pain yeah and uh so i disagree with those artists respectfully yeah when when did

00:23:53.500 you start to feel this change from musician artist songwriter to i mean i don't know what

00:24:00.100 you'd call yourself now but you know it takes a it takes a bit of a a decision to decide to walk

00:24:05.060 across the united states yeah so it was um the walk was this this thing i was in a a jewelry

00:24:13.520 shop my my best friend teeny she uh she owned a jewelry shop and she was talking to somebody

00:24:19.900 across the room and she said uh my friend just walked across america and i went i was like what

00:24:26.520 did you just say and she just goes my friend just walked across i go you can do that she's like i

00:24:32.680 guess he just did it you know and and i just like declare to this jewelry shop i'm like i want to do

00:24:38.600 that too you know and they're like okay are you buying something yeah exactly and uh and

00:24:47.200 that was the reason why no it's like uh so the walk is crazy right that's not the reason that's

00:24:54.580 how i heard about that i use it that was even a thing you know it's like you're gonna dream to

00:24:58.540 become an actor you have to know acting is even exists right yeah i didn't even know that existed

00:25:03.240 and it immediately caught me did you like walking around not particularly not particularly no you

00:25:10.260 know i'm walking i think i probably had the same attitude my car like so so like i started

00:25:17.480 researching it i go home i start telling people i want to do this one day and i even get in contact

00:25:23.260 with people that have done it before about 10 to 15 people do it a year and they a lot of them

00:25:28.120 written books i start reading the books and i realize there's a strategy to it you walk east

00:25:32.260 to west you start in early spring in an effort to be done before winter and uh each spring like

00:25:40.900 something was in the way there was some reason for me not to do it it was an album i had to finish

00:25:45.380 it was a tour i had to go on to support the last album somebody was getting married

00:25:49.520 and like one year turned into two two year turned into three three years turned into four

00:25:55.980 four years turned into five

00:25:58.000 dis-time ya

00:25:59.620 dis-time ya

00:26:01.980 in a major way

00:26:03.780 because I'm letting my dream die

00:26:05.400 and

00:26:07.540 I said talk to my friend Elliot

00:26:09.900 I was like yo Elliot

00:26:12.180 I had an album coming out

00:26:13.880 it's probably my best album it's called Real Good Kid

00:26:15.940 it had no hits on it

00:26:17.400 but I think it's my best one

00:26:19.060 and it's about to come out

00:26:21.720 and it's like I couldn't

00:26:23.600 I couldn't make myself, like, go to do the, like, the promo,

00:26:28.560 the, like, interviews and the stuff.

00:26:30.600 I was like, I can't do this.

00:26:33.620 Go talk about myself and, like, you play these shows.

00:26:37.480 Like, in music, you go do radio shows.

00:26:39.760 Like, a radio station will throw a concert and then in return,

00:26:43.100 they're, like, supposed to play your song.

00:26:44.540 But it's more like they'll play somebody's song on your label,

00:26:48.100 and it's like I'm out there playing for, like, 13-year-olds, 1.00

00:26:51.760 and I'm like, what the fuck? 0.94

00:26:52.820 i'm 31 like this is weird you know what i mean and uh i was like elliot i can't do it he said 0.97

00:27:01.920 well what do you want to do i said what i want to do is walk across america but like my managers

00:27:08.060 think it's crazy my agents think it's everyone thinks it's crazy he goes that's great news

00:27:11.760 what's great news that they think it's crazy what do you mean he goes you gotta understand

00:27:19.240 not all great ideas are not all crazy ideas are great but all great ideas are crazy

00:27:26.280 and i just knew like i felt it in my body the like truth of what he was saying

00:27:33.520 and i just i'm like i'm doing it i'm doing it it's never gonna be a right time no one's ever

00:27:40.720 gonna roll out a red carpet for me no one's ever gonna say hey you know do it in fact they're

00:27:45.600 going to roll out red carpets or reasons for me not to do it like you're going to do irreparable

00:27:50.500 damage to your body you're going to commit career suicide it's not going to be a career for you to 0.99

00:27:55.020 come back to no one's going to care i heard all the shit and it was just like bro this is my life 0.99

00:27:59.360 and like my dad is dead now avici is dead now mac miller is dead now one day i'm gonna be dead too 0.96

00:28:07.440 but before that day i want to live my life and i'm tired of playing in this little sandbox in

00:28:14.880 west hollywood like going to studios with no windows and making music for 13 year olds like 0.94

00:28:20.480 it's got to be more it's got to be more and i said fuck it i'm gonna do it and then like i say 0.86

00:28:29.240 you start east to west so i walk supported which means that i had a friend in an rv he would go 0.96

00:28:34.980 ahead of me people when i say that people think the car is next to me like handing me water it's

00:28:39.740 not like that car is way up there i'm walking alone and then like he's making sure we find

00:28:43.660 has a place to sleep we have food that kind of thing and i always try to be honest about that

00:28:48.000 because there's there's people out there that do it unsupported and they're way more badass than me

00:28:53.540 so shout outs to all them and uh we get this rv this is before the walk we drive from la to new

00:29:02.900 jersey because like i said it's best to start east to west the reason for that is the way the mountain

00:29:06.780 ranges are lined up you want to hit the rockies at the right time bro we're dry this takes a 0.94

00:29:12.720 fucking week i was driving across kansas i'm like holy shit this is long bro i gotta walk this whole 0.97

00:29:19.020 thing back yeah you know and i was filled with uncertainty and and fear because i put on social 0.98

00:29:27.820 i'm gonna do this i said you guys could come walk with me all this stuff and i didn't know if i could

00:29:33.060 do it i mean i had no idea and i get out there and i get get to uh asbury park in new jersey i

00:29:42.300 get to the beach and i get in the ocean that was a big thing i gotta start in the ocean and in the

00:29:46.980 other ocean in the water the waves crashing on my back and i realized like man these thoughts of

00:29:53.720 uncertainty and fear are just that they're thoughts of uncertainty and fear nothing nothing more

00:30:00.360 nothing less i take my first step step one is take one step step one take one step and uh

00:30:07.360 it was amazing man typically i walk 24 miles a day i put on social that you know anyone could

00:30:15.380 join me and people came from all over america man and and i said if you find me i never posted

00:30:21.380 like exactly where i was because it get kind of like unsafe too many people so it's kind of like

00:30:26.820 scavenger hunt and uh when when people came i always asked two questions i say one why'd you

00:30:33.480 come and sometimes they just they just wanted a picture and that was fine and sometimes like i

00:30:39.000 said they're like college kids and they're on the weekend they're like let's see if we can find him

00:30:43.480 like some kind of like a scavenger hunt but sometimes they came because there was no one

00:30:50.740 else that they had to talk to and it was like their dads also just died you know they were

00:30:56.520 soldiers that had seen killing and had killed they were you know professionals caught under

00:31:03.400 the weight of their own lives um and and one day this this young man came he he was like i i want

00:31:13.820 to i want to like do something like what you're doing but i'm too young because i got to get a

00:31:18.680 job first and like start making money and like a few days later this this this guy came who was

00:31:26.420 older he's like 65 and he was like i always wanted to do what you're doing right now but i'm too old

00:31:32.620 my family won't let me and my body won't make it

00:31:36.140 I started to see the difference between reasons and excuses right

00:31:41.120 it's like

00:31:41.980 our reasons always seem valid to us but when you really look at them

00:31:48.140 there isn't actually a difference 99 times out of 100

00:31:52.060 our reasons are excuses wearing fancy clothes

00:31:55.560 you know and the other question I always ask 0.99

00:32:00.340 people was and this is a good question remember you i mean you guys are fucking pro interviewers 0.71

00:32:06.740 on you tell you but whenever i felt like trapped in small talk land my my uh my friend kevin he 0.71

00:32:14.260 told me his question he said if you feel like this is service level and you want to go deeper

00:32:19.720 ask this question the question was if i pray for you what should i pray for sick

00:32:25.020 and sometimes a lot of times like one word answers i get back joy happiness love success

00:32:33.980 but sometimes it went way deeper i was on the walking across the wallapai reservation in

00:32:43.600 arizona and this red ford f350 pulls the side of the road i got all sorts of like

00:32:51.340 ideas and biases about who's going to be driving a car like that i'm a little scared to be honest

00:32:56.960 this young guy 21 year old from the wallapai reservation jumps out of the car he runs across

00:33:04.240 the highway because i always walk in the traffic so he pulled up next to me runs across my life

00:33:09.620 please don't get hit and uh we talked for a while and i asked him that question if i pray for you

00:33:17.960 What should I pray for?

00:33:20.280 He thought about it.

00:33:23.040 He said,

00:33:23.560 He said,

00:33:23.660 Five years ago, my mom died from drinking.

00:33:34.560 Excuse me.

00:33:35.560 He said, five years ago, my dad died.

00:33:37.340 My dad died of drinking.

00:33:39.740 And three years ago, my brother died from drinking.

00:33:47.920 And three months ago, my mother died drinking.

00:33:55.360 So if you pray for me, pray for my sobriety because I'm the only one left.

00:34:07.240 And it's like moments like that, you're like, it's almost too much.

00:34:12.040 He's like, wait right here.

00:34:13.600 He runs across the highway again dangerously, reaches into his car.

00:34:17.920 pulls out this little leather satchel

00:34:20.000 and puts it in my hand.

00:34:22.540 He said, this is sweet grass and sage

00:34:24.460 and

00:34:27.040 you know, keep you safe from bad spirits

00:34:30.000 on our land.

00:34:32.840 It's just like

00:34:33.780 that's why I walked across America.

00:34:38.320 You know? 1.00

00:34:39.600 Fuck. 1.00

00:34:40.500 No, I'm sure you've met 1.00

00:34:41.400 amazing people along the

00:34:43.380 journey.

00:34:44.940 His name was Rowan.

00:34:46.380 Rowan.

00:34:46.780 He got back in the F-4350, he drove away, and he put his fist out the window like that. 1.00

00:34:54.200 I'll never forget that shit, man. 1.00

00:34:56.120 Those moments. 1.00

00:34:56.780 I'll never forget that.

00:34:57.980 I wonder what he's doing right now.

00:35:00.180 He's an amazing guy because he wasn't, first off, like, let's acknowledge I'm a white guy on an Indian reservation.

00:35:08.000 Usually white guys come like it doesn't go well for them.

00:35:12.260 He's got no reason to be nice to me. 0.99

00:35:14.220 like what he should be saying is get the fuck out of here right and like he should be cynical about 0.58

00:35:21.240 life he should have just time yet or worse you know he should like every you know everything's 0.85

00:35:29.640 gone wrong and here he is showing up not like to get something for me to give something to me

00:35:37.580 and so that's inspiring

00:35:39.420 that's inspiring to me

00:35:41.160 like people that have so much less

00:35:43.900 than me materially

00:35:45.540 but have more than me

00:35:46.920 you know because sometimes my phone ring

00:35:49.180 and I'm like I don't even want to pick this up

00:35:50.800 because they're going to want something from me

00:35:52.940 and a lot of times

00:35:55.600 it's not true

00:35:56.320 I had a friend who

00:35:58.180 you were going to say something man sorry

00:36:00.040 that cut you off

00:36:01.540 I'm blabbering too much

00:36:03.440 we're listening to your storytelling

00:36:06.980 yeah go ahead

00:36:08.460 no I was gonna say

00:36:08.980 you're like a modern 0.96

00:36:09.540 forest day gump 0.99

00:36:10.320 like literally

00:36:11.940 like the cool one

00:36:13.020 let's see

00:36:13.320 yeah 0.98

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00:36:53.140 We have a real Forrest Gump.

00:36:54.940 He looks great. No, people join you

00:36:56.800 along the journey. I remember seeing the TikToks, right? 0.87

00:36:58.780 We found Mike Bozzi on his walk across, man.

00:37:01.480 Can I ask you something?

00:37:02.760 Please. I saw your ending video.

00:37:04.180 they're always so mean to you

00:37:10.180 hey can we mark that

00:37:14.160 note right there and just cut that

00:37:15.700 cut my poster

00:37:16.560 why why

00:37:18.720 leave that in that's nice

00:37:19.840 you had my back

00:37:21.180 I really really

00:37:25.020 am inspired by your journey

00:37:26.760 because I too think

00:37:28.020 one day I'm going to take a

00:37:30.540 long walk period of isolation

00:37:32.680 in my life

00:37:34.100 that that may involve a long walk or a run we talk about some isolation that's what i was that

00:37:42.220 i was i was curious about it too because you said earlier that you were uh that that you have these

00:37:46.840 feelings of loneliness and you felt that in the crowd you feel it on certain days anyways like

00:37:52.620 so my question would be like what drives you to a place that just would would force you into that

00:38:00.220 isolation you know where you're going to be walking by yourself the majority of the time

00:38:02.940 whether or not people are coming to visit you or not this is part of it but i like isn't that weird

00:38:07.600 yeah i don't want to i don't sound like braggy because i hate you don't get braggy no but like

00:38:14.680 so i i pushed isolation to a further extreme in my life than the walk though the walk i didn't

00:38:21.220 spend a lot of those hours most of them alone on the side of the road but i finished the walk

00:38:28.940 and basically

00:38:29.980 and we go back

00:38:31.260 there's probably more

00:38:31.860 to talk about snakebite 0.99

00:38:32.880 and all that shit 1.00

00:38:33.460 and then 0.99

00:38:34.080 don't even get me started 0.99

00:38:35.740 on the fucking king cobra 1.00

00:38:36.980 that bit you 1.00

00:38:37.520 I'm gonna jump ahead

00:38:38.520 I'm gonna jump ahead

00:38:39.380 I finished the walk

00:38:40.800 and uh

00:38:41.840 I still didn't want to go back

00:38:44.360 to the sandbox

00:38:44.980 and it was like

00:38:46.320 so

00:38:46.660 the next

00:38:48.400 I was jacked up bro

00:38:50.160 like my feet 0.99

00:38:51.520 were fucked up 0.99

00:38:52.740 and like 0.99

00:38:53.260 how long did it take you?

00:38:55.080 six months and three days

00:38:56.500 it's like 180

00:38:58.320 some odd days it was 2851 miles and he was like i was so scared going back to sandbox i called this

00:39:07.640 guy used to do boxing with i was like can you meet me at the gym tomorrow at four just the day after

00:39:12.780 i finished it's like i needed to rest bro it was like i felt like i was 90 when i was standing and

00:39:18.640 i i didn't i honestly didn't know if it was gonna go back to normal but i i was like i can't just

00:39:25.980 like go home and get fat like that can't be the end of this this would be a beginning so we went

00:39:31.920 boxing the next day and i had this dream on the walk of doing everest and it became real as i was

00:39:38.840 going like i could really do i could really do this you know like it's gonna be hard i don't

00:39:45.380 know anything about climbing it's the tallest mountain in the world but look like i do hard 0.56

00:39:50.320 shit now anyways i do everest that was in a year and a half we can get into that but 0.60

00:39:56.960 back to isolation that's the thread we're on before i did everest i planned to go 0.87

00:40:05.300 to this monastery or it's actually a buddhist center there's no monks so i shouldn't call it

00:40:09.860 monastery and they have these cabins there that are set up for what they call solo retreats

00:40:15.400 so there's a temple and then like up in the mountain they drive you up some crazy road

00:40:19.900 and there's like a little cabin there and they just leave you and once a week they'll drop off

00:40:25.880 your groceries for a week but it's in like a drop box so they leave it they leave and then you get

00:40:30.040 it later you don't see them and i set that up because i was just going like i did the one i

00:40:34.880 did ever so i gotta stop and do nothing and all that nothing i could create what i want to do next

00:40:40.180 and it was my third time there you know the first time i get there like

00:40:47.660 i sit on this meditation cushion i'm like you know i had these like glimmers of like

00:40:54.060 before where like i call moments of being or virginia wolf called them that there's like a

00:40:59.240 moment in your life where everything just makes sense like you had that before yeah like everybody

00:41:03.660 has it's like it's just everything just makes sense and i was like i i felt one of those moments

00:41:11.160 on the summit of everest i felt it like a couple times on the walk and it's like there's got to be

00:41:15.680 a better way to like access that than like risking my life to like you know so i'm like i sit down

00:41:22.940 on the cushion i'm like okay maybe this is like i'm gonna find it and then like almost immediately

00:41:29.720 my mind comes in it's like hey did you notice like whoever was here before you they left some

00:41:34.160 spices on the on the like a kitchen area you should get up and organize those i get up and

00:41:39.520 i like put them in order i go back on the meditation cushion close my eyes and take a deep

00:41:47.320 breath and then again the voice is back it's like yo you didn't work out today you're you're gonna

00:41:52.040 be meditating you're gonna get fat here you know like you should get out run up the hill 10 times

00:41:56.720 so i open up my eyes go outside run up the hill 10 times i get back on the cushion third time like

00:42:01.740 sweaty now and it's like i close my eyes and then the voice starts doing this weird thing it starts

00:42:09.540 like rehearsing what i'm gonna say about this when i'm done with it and it's like this is this is

00:42:16.060 everyone's experience with meditation by the way like first like dude this is insane you know uh

00:42:22.700 but as i i stuck with it and last time i was there i was there 21 days like no humans people

00:42:30.180 say it's like a silent retreat i'm like yeah kind of i mean there's nobody there you could talk if

00:42:34.100 you want to but like are you on like are you smoking weed no no no like sober yeah yeah

00:42:42.380 completely sober um there's no electricity no phone no running water no wi-fi no netflix no

00:42:48.940 ipad no laptop and i don't bring in the guitar either because that then i could like work where

00:42:54.720 is this where's this again just is it colorado got it got it yeah the place is called tara mandala

00:42:59.740 i've always regret saying it because like it seems to be getting harder and harder to like

00:43:04.380 get slots to like go you're creating your own demise uh so i'll probably just ruin that forever

00:43:11.240 but like an interesting thing mike like when i was there and i'm actually fully alone

00:43:19.060 i don't feel lonely at all and also i don't feel bored like at all and it's like

00:43:29.280 those things seem to come from like a kind of restlessness like a reaching like a grasping

00:43:38.440 like there's got to be more or like what's next mix what's next and like mix in some FOMO into

00:43:44.280 that concoction they seem to come from that and when I'm there it's like I'm working on being

00:43:50.760 present so like what does it actually mean that means like the way I'm using it is like being

00:43:55.980 without thinking about being so if I'm drinking the water like I'm opening it and in my mind

00:44:02.620 I'm not saying anything there's no dialogue I'm just feeling how it feels to unscrew the top and

00:44:08.360 and doing the whole day like that and of course you lose it a thousand times but

00:44:12.940 it's like doing it with training wheels for mindfulness because no one's there to distract

00:44:18.600 you like if you get upset it's your fault like no one else is there you know something you're doing

00:44:23.460 here you know so those things start to become obvious those things you do to piss yourself off

00:44:28.340 or you know hold resentments and that kind of thing so all that to say like

00:44:33.780 i'm not sure like that loneliness doesn't seem to be it doesn't seem to be an inherent part of me

00:44:46.360 right it's either like it's like external it's imposed by the things around you yeah i want to

00:44:52.680 say that or the way i interact with them yeah the only reason i make that distinction because if i'd

00:44:57.660 say it's just the things then the things are in control of me yeah and that's and that's and that's

00:45:02.120 the biggest thing i'm a big boy yeah but that's the biggest thing you fight off with uh meditation

00:45:07.060 right is like everything in life it's not about external factors it's about your response to them

00:45:11.740 right you know what i'm saying and so it's like when you when you learn to and i'm terrible at

00:45:15.900 this and i have a severe i have severe anxiety i have an overactive mind that's just racing racing

00:45:21.580 like a hamster on a wheel 24 7 there's never a second of my day where it stops and it's just

00:45:26.220 thoughts thoughts thoughts thoughts mostly negative you know what i'm saying yeah and so i so when i

00:45:30.540 try to get into that meditative position and i know a lot of people watching this can relate to

00:45:34.100 it as well it's very very fucking difficult for me to get into that place but when i do

00:45:39.180 i i find myself able to understand that that um being present as well as you find new conduct 0.79

00:45:47.100 connectivity to the things around you to nature to to your water bottle to whatever it's crazy

00:45:53.480 so the fifth day i'm there and i'm i do basically five hours of sitting meditation a day not in one

00:46:02.040 shot i do two in the morning one in the afternoon two in the evening and i do three hours of walking

00:46:06.800 meditation a day where essentially you're walking but you're feeling your breath and like your feet

00:46:13.160 touch the ground as you go and i'm jumping off your thread of like senses and connecting more

00:46:19.880 the fifth day i'm in the morning meditation i'm sitting and like by now i have nicknamed

00:46:25.540 the voice in my head charlie because like he's just talking and like you said if you really

00:46:32.780 listen to your your voice your charlie you'll find it's it's often negative and good lord is

00:46:40.220 it repetitive yeah like it's telling me the same i'm like yeah i got it i got it man thank you

00:46:45.420 you know and so on this fifth day i'm in this meditate and it's like it just started to get

00:46:54.340 quieter and quieter and quieter and then kind of like just went away and the two hours ended

00:47:01.320 i get up and i realized like even though i'm not sitting anymore i'm still meditating

00:47:06.360 i go outside and i take a piss no charlie it's like i come back inside wash my hands no charlie

00:47:13.680 and i make like my lunch it's like a cracker you ever eat wassa bread yeah it's wassa bread

00:47:21.840 avocado and salt that's it like very simple right no charlie i take a bite and it's like

00:47:31.520 a explosion of flavor like i i i'm not exaggerating if you're like mike what is the

00:47:39.320 best meal of your life is that yeah meal because you were living it because there was no screen of

00:47:46.700 thinking categorizing analyzing planning thinking about the last avocado i ate thinking about the

00:47:52.180 macro nutrients of avocados did i get enough protein like it all that was there was the raw

00:47:58.280 input of the taste and what happens is like when we remove that screen of charlie

00:48:04.780 the senses like you said are so heightened and like i had moments there

00:48:12.200 where i'm putting my sock on and i'm feeling like i'm having sex man like it was great like

00:48:19.800 i'm not even exaggerating no like it's it was and then you start to hear the bird like the first

00:48:25.480 five six days i didn't hear the birds like i heard some of them but then this fifth sixth day i'm

00:48:31.300 waking up i'm like there is a symphony out here and it's like ones that are quieter that i'm

00:48:37.420 probably further away that i literally wasn't hearing because charlie was too loud and yeah 0.88

00:48:44.660 like i fell high i fell high fucked up because it's crazy because he's asking me to take drugs 0.83

00:48:49.580 it's like no but in a way it was it was a heightened experience for sure well you know 0.97

00:48:54.500 they say and it's always there for us yeah sorry go ahead no no they say meditation is like the

00:48:59.860 strongest hallucinogen if you if you master meditation it can get you to a level that no

00:49:04.220 you know mushroom or acid can get you to the highest level of that and everyone that talks

00:49:09.300 about meditation tells me the same thing they're like yo you have to do this you you especially

00:49:14.620 have to do this because if i saw you on that walk and you were like well you know like what do you

00:49:19.760 want me to pray for you for i want charlie to die that would be my answer i can't i need my charlie 1.00

00:49:26.080 I need this motherfucker to shut up 1.00

00:49:27.620 Because I've said it on the show a million times 1.00

00:49:29.580 I can get anything I want

00:49:31.180 In this world

00:49:32.200 The one thing I can't get is peace of mind

00:49:33.640 It's very hard for me to find it

00:49:35.420 Even momentarily

00:49:36.240 And everybody said bro

00:49:37.900 You really gotta try either a retreat

00:49:39.600 Meditation

00:49:40.220 Something like that

00:49:41.040 And I've

00:49:41.660 And honestly

00:49:42.300 Like you said earlier

00:49:43.680 Like

00:49:44.060 My excuse

00:49:45.900 Not my reason

00:49:47.120 My excuse is that I'm too busy

00:49:48.580 I'm too lazy

00:49:49.400 I can't do it

00:49:50.460 You know what I'm saying

00:49:50.860 But I think in this new year

00:49:52.660 I wanna put a ton of effort into doing it

00:49:54.080 So what are you gonna do?

00:49:56.080 i don't know maybe we could talk about it after the show yeah maybe you could say when we talk

00:49:59.860 about it you're gonna do something michael climbed the next mountain with you you're gonna do something

00:50:03.560 he loves climbing you know what i mean you gotta do if i put it out if i put it out there oh my 0.99

00:50:06.900 worst nightmare is you saying this shit a year from now on this podcast well your worst nightmare 0.98

00:50:11.640 is about to come true no man you're gonna start first off charlie's not going your charlie's not 0.99

00:50:16.460 gonna die mine is alive and well but you're gonna change your relationship to it where 0.99

00:50:21.720 one it sounds starts to sound comical like oh you're gonna try to fuck with me like that 0.99

00:50:28.680 i've heard this before you know and then and then one thing i want to talk to you about i'm 0.97

00:50:34.800 studying to become a wim hof instructor have you done that yet no okay friends so like

00:50:40.240 the breathing technique and the cold immersion you done any of this stuff of course

00:50:44.560 i trained with him twice and it is so powerful i was like i want to learn to be a teacher of this

00:50:51.320 and i'm like halfway through the training now but can i be your first student yeah 0.96

00:50:56.100 fuck yeah that'd be a hundred percent awesome yeah let's do it that guy's insane the ice man 0.80

00:51:03.100 wim hof i love him so much how does it work you're gonna have like a wim hof license to teach wim 0.98

00:51:07.920 hof techniques yeah essentially and they've sort of said to me like uh they're like you can kind

00:51:14.260 of like teach your friends now but like look like if you're gonna like be advertised or whatever

00:51:20.280 like you have to learn the thing because there's certain protocols like you know safety safety

00:51:24.640 safety yeah gotcha gotcha and you've done the the submersion in the water the ice yeah i got

00:51:30.960 two freezers at my house and they're 33 degrees man like one you know what's what's your what's

00:51:36.440 your time in it how long i do 10 minutes you know i've gone as long as like 18 when i was with him

00:51:42.460 like pushed it but i was like cold for like the next year yeah there's like 10 minutes there's a

00:51:48.620 level of cold that seeps deep yeah into your bones they call it after drop you know drop you

00:51:54.260 fit like so you finish the you know your time in the tub and like you're proud of yourself and

00:51:59.260 you're whatever but you got to move you got to bring the heat back in otherwise actually you're

00:52:03.340 gonna keep getting colder yeah so for boxing we did we did we would do eight in the tub yeah same

00:52:07.940 same just uh amazing sometimes you know they were a little colder sometimes they're a little warmer

00:52:13.200 what was your experience in there um i have a super abnormal experience in the tub 1.00

00:52:19.560 boner the exact opposite of everyone else his dick gets huge i can't not be erect in my ice 1.00

00:52:29.960 uh no i i i disassociate completely i forgot who you are no my uh my my brain works in a 1.00

00:52:37.480 in a really 0.95

00:52:38.320 kind of fucked up way 0.98

00:52:40.080 where I could turn 0.94

00:52:40.840 switches on and off

00:52:41.820 if I so desire

00:52:43.540 and

00:52:44.360 when I'm in the tub 1.00

00:52:45.980 and the shit sucks 1.00

00:52:46.860 I just turn the 1.00

00:52:48.020 the shit sucks 1.00

00:52:48.800 flip off 1.00

00:52:49.660 that sounds like

00:52:52.520 a superpower 0.95

00:52:53.180 we're like a sociopath

00:52:54.760 so yeah

00:52:55.160 so how

00:52:55.580 right

00:52:56.600 right

00:52:57.440 yeah

00:52:57.860 well we want to make sure

00:52:58.880 you don't leave it off

00:52:59.760 right

00:53:00.180 I'm going to turn that switch off

00:53:02.040 Logan your leg

00:53:03.500 has fallen off

00:53:04.580 you gotta go in the corner

00:53:05.840 if I don't even know

00:53:06.920 who that is

00:53:07.320 i mean like he actually bro my baby no it's okay i sit in the tub and and and what 0.96

00:53:17.740 wow this fucking blows and just sit there and complain no get over it it's like 0.96

00:53:23.060 do your work you know for me for me it's work or or whether it's like a goal i say it can be 0.99

00:53:29.120 anything right it's i ha i have an unrelenting desire to achieve a task in order to do that

00:53:36.740 Which I know I want to do 0.99

00:53:38.260 This shit should 0.99

00:53:40.620 Try to not suck I should like get over it 1.00

00:53:42.960 Don't be a bitch 1.00

00:53:44.180 That's just mental strength 1.00

00:53:47.000 Cause I can

00:53:47.540 It sounds great

00:53:49.500 It's nice

00:53:50.880 Everyone does it differently you know 0.98

00:53:52.900 I'm sure you had moments fucking climbing Mount Everest 1.00

00:53:55.560 Where you're like this shit sucks 1.00

00:53:56.980 This shit fucking sucks 1.00

00:53:58.920 But most of it 1.00

00:53:59.960 You have to turn it off and go

00:54:03.100 And mind you

00:54:04.740 my mind's not off i'm i i do a lot of visualization that's how that's how i get through i think about

00:54:10.640 i think about when i was in the ice baths you know beating the guy i'm fighting or or becoming

00:54:15.520 in the best uh physical shape that i possibly can be i i i i picture the the goal yeah i picture

00:54:21.720 this the thing that i know i want to reach so bad because i want to reach it so bad for one second

00:54:26.540 i gotta turn off like my connection to my body and just and just brain think visualize

00:54:35.580 have you always had that switch or did you develop the switch developed yeah developed

00:54:40.900 and i even say you getting in the ice bath is like you're flexing that muscle when you're in

00:54:46.340 there right for sure if you if you just sat on the couch for a year that switch would get a little

00:54:51.800 rusty right oh a little heavier to turn for sure yeah for sure like you need it's a muscle yeah

00:54:58.860 you exercise it you do you do the thing that you want to do repeatedly and then eventually like

00:55:03.600 you're getting better and better at it yeah this is sounds like to me you have a healthy relationship

00:55:08.000 to to fear and discomfort i told you i live in the bottom bro i live in that space of like i've 0.98

00:55:14.700 this fucking blows this is the worst thing like 0.94

00:55:18.920 if i can weather that what can't i do exactly i love that i love knowing more about myself 0.99

00:55:29.980 intentionally put myself in uncomfortable scenarios that's why like what you're doing 0.98

00:55:33.280 bro i think is fucking sick thank you the next thing do you know it it doesn't have to do with 0.96

00:55:38.400 The Wim Hof Iceman. 0.98

00:55:40.280 It changed a little bit for me.

00:55:43.920 Everest changed a lot for me because I was exploring myself,

00:55:54.440 seeing my potential.

00:55:56.060 Could I actually do it?

00:55:58.200 I was, like you said, putting myself in an uncomfortable situation

00:56:04.380 where I knew I was going to grow because I knew it was going to be really hard

00:56:07.080 and harder than anything I've done before. 0.97

00:56:12.740 And most of my life, shit went pretty good, you know? 0.92

00:56:15.820 I had a lot, like, just, like, I won the lottery by being born 0.98

00:56:20.520 or who I was born to.

00:56:21.880 Anyway, so, like, I almost had to, you know,

00:56:24.240 manufacture these hard things to grow.

00:56:28.040 But push to the very, very, very, very extreme,

00:56:34.280 which is what Everest is. 0.91

00:56:35.580 those things become actually a little bit foolish like i'm gonna explore myself like bro but you 0.91

00:56:43.280 are you gonna die doing that like that's kind of a silly thing to die for there's there's things 0.92

00:56:50.200 that like i'd like to think i would die for like someone's messing with my mom like you know what 0.96

00:56:55.760 i mean exploring myself like self-growth that's selfish in a lot of way because if i die i'm dead

00:57:06.660 and then like but my mom like everybody else yeah my mom's life would have this giant cat like

00:57:13.160 so it changed my risk tolerance a lot and uh and you know like god willing we summited safely

00:57:24.460 and uh but not everyone did while we were there four people died this year

00:57:29.140 you come down and you you pass bodies and it just reminds you what a privilege it is to be alive

00:57:36.040 and so um i got a lot of goals i think like the wim hof is one of them i'm i'm was telling

00:57:44.100 caleb earlier like i'm really focused on music right now as well so i found myself and i didn't

00:57:48.960 think i was gonna be you know it was like i got back and i went on that retreat and i'm like i

00:57:53.540 didn't know what i was gonna do next it's like i felt called to make music i ended up in la

00:57:58.620 and then on paper on paper i'm doing like i'm in the sandbox i'm doing the same thing i was doing

00:58:05.320 five years ago but it's totally different it's totally different i work with a lot of artists

00:58:11.480 that are you know they're 21 they're 23 or 10 years younger than me and i just try to share

00:58:18.680 like we talked about earlier share the stuff i've learned i definitely don't know it all but i've

00:58:24.920 learned something these last few years and if that could be a value to somebody else i got a

00:58:30.340 commitment to share that in my my studio sessions in the music i make and also doing things like

00:58:36.000 this so that's sort of that's sort of like my next thing it's not a thing it's not another mountain

00:58:41.720 how how much how much of you moving forward when you when you take that first step out of the ocean

00:58:47.680 And when you leave the coast or, you know, you start the journey.

00:58:50.580 Yeah.

00:58:51.600 Is doing it for yourself, self-discovery, personal growth versus the ability to share and potentially influence someone else's life positively after the fact.

00:59:04.420 What's the split for you?

00:59:05.480 Oh, and then there's a third one, which was I wanted to be cool.

00:59:09.180 I wanted to look good.

00:59:10.160 I wanted to be the guy to climb Mount Everest.

00:59:12.260 Like there's some of that in there.

00:59:15.740 You know, like let's be real.

00:59:17.540 Of course 1.00

00:59:19.320 That's fucking sick 0.99

00:59:21.480 Yeah some of that in there 0.99

00:59:23.480 So I'd say it's probably like

00:59:25.860 20-30% ego

00:59:27.840 Like I want to do this 1.00

00:59:29.720 Because I want to be a fucking man 0.99

00:59:31.440 And that part of me is lame 0.99

00:59:34.500 You know but it's there

00:59:36.060 Let's be honest about it

00:59:37.260 Have you ever used that as like a pick up line at the bar

00:59:39.040 Like hey

00:59:39.540 I climbed Everest

00:59:41.920 Let's all make a joke at the same time

00:59:45.760 yeah we did it this is a funny thing about like everest um because there's the there's base camp

00:59:53.780 of everest which is where the climb starts and it's a sort of um it's actually like this really

01:00:01.020 cool trip like you guys should all do it it takes like six days and you do this hike just to the

01:00:05.560 base camp to base camp maybe once i get the ankle fixed man and it's awesome like you land and you

01:00:11.320 You go village to village and you're in their Sherpa villages and like there's no cars like you're out there.

01:00:17.440 It's in the mountains.

01:00:19.320 So it's the Himalaya.

01:00:20.640 Yeah.

01:00:22.640 Mike had a difficulty walking through one village.

01:00:26.000 Mike, you're talking to the wrong group of lads here in these guys.

01:00:30.360 I'll do the base.

01:00:31.660 My thing's just the ankles.

01:00:35.640 I can't walk to the parking lot outside.

01:00:39.120 I have a really bad ankle.

01:00:40.380 I have screws, plates, arthritis. 1.00

01:00:43.100 Damn, bro. 0.99

01:00:43.320 They need to cut the thing off. 1.00

01:00:44.580 Dyslexia.

01:00:44.760 If I get lost, I'm dead.

01:00:46.980 Look at that.

01:00:47.760 And a bunion, yeah.

01:00:49.120 It's another thing I'm working on fixing this year, man.

01:00:51.140 I always thought it was an extra toe when you had socks on.

01:00:53.360 I wasn't going to approach you about it for the longest time.

01:00:55.660 I swear to God.

01:00:56.180 That bunion is flat paddle feet.

01:00:58.480 It looks like somebody put their hand in a sock in there.

01:01:00.480 Yeah.

01:01:00.700 I have a question.

01:01:02.200 Mashed potato.

01:01:02.780 Ask me.

01:01:04.180 Because if I were to undergo a journey like this, I'm 26.

01:01:09.500 i don't know if i i'd be solely doing it for me i love creating content right you said you

01:01:18.020 didn't bring your guitar to your retreat because you'd be working yeah but like as a creator and

01:01:26.100 in a different way i love it so so much it's never worked to me it's like i it's very hard

01:01:32.680 to not do i feel like if i'm not creating or making or building something it can be literally

01:01:38.340 be anything um i'm not me and now i'm that's when i'm miserable like i went to burning man one one

01:01:47.580 year this is the closest i got to like a retreat yeah but i put my phone down right present with

01:01:55.760 my friends sort of a little psychedelics involved but as present as you could be when when that'll

01:02:01.500 help you but will it because i could i don't know how in like intentional i was because the one thing

01:02:06.680 i learned after the fact was i i was not happy as that guy as as like you know the president with

01:02:15.620 a community and not not working to improve anything like it was weird i discovered that that that that

01:02:24.620 it might be hard for me to put it all down yeah i think you know you already know you're you're

01:02:30.860 like a little addicted to productivity and it's great man it's like also when you're super proud

01:02:36.100 like look what you built you know but look like if you're if you're 0.97

01:02:40.920 if you're doing 35 cool fucking things in a year which it seems like you are bro you know like 0.93

01:02:51.840 some cool things you live an amazing life you know in the scheme of lives and and you created 0.95

01:02:57.180 it for yourself right so i'm not i'm not like you you you made it thanks i'll just finish this

01:03:04.480 point real quick you're doing 35 whatever the numbers maybe it's 10 like you did one of them

01:03:10.600 without document that might be healthy and you're talking about growing and you're not yourself

01:03:17.920 it's like yeah that's the point you want to get out of that that mode that who is logan when he's

01:03:23.600 not working who is logan when he's not who who are you when you're not being productive is that

01:03:29.460 god i've never met i've never met him i've never met him you don't know and there's something

01:03:34.340 there oh my god and in my experience which is only my experience nothing more nothing less

01:03:39.160 it's not less it's more than you ever dreamed of bro it's so funny that's that's a little bit of

01:03:46.640 it i literally started this the episode saying i like living in the uncomfortable and then i'm

01:03:51.060 saying how i'm uncomfortable when i'm not working and i don't like doing it and i avoid that space

01:03:55.980 I avoid the

01:03:57.300 Like the plague

01:03:59.000 Or even conversation about anything

01:04:00.900 That's not super productive

01:04:02.400 Like if you come at him with some like

01:04:05.200 Yo see the

01:04:06.300 If you ask this kid 1.00

01:04:07.300 If he saw the fucking Cleveland Browns game 1.00

01:04:09.220 He'll smack you in the face 1.00

01:04:10.460 He'll be like 0.96

01:04:11.220 I don't even 0.99

01:04:11.760 Don't even bring that shit my way 0.99

01:04:14.140 Hold on a sec 1.00

01:04:14.840 First off

01:04:19.120 A

01:04:19.840 That's not true

01:04:20.960 B

01:04:21.420 How dare you use the Cleveland Browns

01:04:24.840 I'm from Cleveland

01:04:28.100 You could have chose any other team

01:04:31.340 Bro

01:04:31.720 I love the Browns 1.00

01:04:33.760 Fuck you 1.00

01:04:35.420 Shut up 1.00

01:04:37.040 He's been liking the word shut up 0.99

01:04:40.980 Does he always do that

01:04:42.740 I think I got it from Chris D'Elia

01:04:46.160 I stole it from Chris 0.99

01:04:47.360 He goes shut up 0.98

01:04:49.100 Oh he does do that 1.00

01:04:50.620 You fucking con artist 1.00

01:04:52.760 I was like where have I heard this 1.00

01:04:54.560 And you deliver it so perfectly

01:04:56.600 I know

01:04:57.340 Watch him do it

01:04:59.500 He goes 0.99

01:04:59.800 Shut up 0.99

01:05:01.320 Well he's 40% eyebrows 0.99

01:05:03.080 Yeah he's very animated

01:05:04.800 I saw some clip of him

01:05:06.040 He was talking about like

01:05:07.320 They went to some big dinner

01:05:08.640 And he paid for it

01:05:10.420 Like a big

01:05:11.600 Like it was like

01:05:12.460 Five grand dinner

01:05:13.740 And then he's on the podcast

01:05:15.440 He's going

01:05:15.980 And it didn't make a

01:05:17.480 Dent 1.00

01:05:18.720 He kept saying that shit 1.00

01:05:21.060 Didn't make a 1.00

01:05:22.040 Dent

01:05:23.220 He's funny

01:05:23.920 Like for five minutes

01:05:25.040 He was just saying that

01:05:26.060 They were like

01:05:26.480 Bro don't say it again

01:05:27.700 Anyways bro

01:05:30.780 He's funny

01:05:31.240 Is he on the podcast

01:05:32.140 With all the other comedians?

01:05:33.700 Yeah

01:05:33.980 It was the one with like

01:05:35.160 Brian Cowell

01:05:35.660 Yeah yeah yeah

01:05:36.300 They were like

01:05:37.000 Don't say it

01:05:37.900 Oh oh oh

01:05:38.700 Oh he crushed that

01:05:39.920 Entire podcast

01:05:40.740 I think

01:05:41.600 That

01:05:42.300 They've been doing

01:05:42.960 A few more together

01:05:43.840 Yeah yeah

01:05:44.560 He crushes it every time

01:05:45.680 Do you hang out

01:05:46.400 With other artists

01:05:47.060 And people in the space?

01:05:48.860 Musicians 0.80

01:05:49.300 Musicians? 1.00

01:05:50.140 Yeah

01:05:50.400 Somewhat 1.00

01:05:51.920 Are they fucked up? 1.00

01:05:52.860 some of them 1.00

01:05:54.540 but definitely not all of them

01:05:56.540 some of them are the most beautiful people

01:05:58.520 you'll ever meet

01:05:59.600 an artist by definition at any medium

01:06:02.360 is somebody that should see the world

01:06:05.100 a little differently

01:06:06.040 100%

01:06:07.480 and then they should help us

01:06:09.240 their art helps us see it through their eyes

01:06:11.900 and so yeah you're meeting people that

01:06:14.600 look at things differently

01:06:16.120 they are different

01:06:16.900 you know

01:06:17.900 and just like

01:06:22.520 really beautiful people uh and sometimes you see the problems um like that don't seem so

01:06:30.220 dissimilar from mine that it's like you have these waves in this like and fame bro fame is insane and

01:06:39.560 there's a there's a solipsism that can creep in you have a girlfriend i don't single intentional

01:06:45.900 i'm looking for one yeah it hasn't really been a priority for me to be honest dude you walked 0.98

01:06:53.760 from the other side of the country yeah i was like i was doing that shit you know i was just 0.81

01:06:58.300 doing it it's like you know it's like i'm in la before i left too and i know i'm going the last 0.97

01:07:03.380 six months i'm like hey you in the market for someone growing a real ugly beer that's just

01:07:07.740 gonna leave for the next year i don't know how long it's gonna be she could have hung out in

01:07:12.140 the the van yeah anyway it's yeah it just hasn't really been like uh i don't know i think i'm a

01:07:16.760 little slow in that part of my life did you have a phase uh phase where you were going a little 1.00

01:07:22.040 wild yeah it fucked that that's made me more slow the fuck boy phase it fucked me up it fucked me 0.99

01:07:27.780 because logan bro i didn't go on a date for like seven years yeah wow because i'm just i'm just 0.99

01:07:37.240 doing like hookups on the road and that's what i think my relationship with women is supposed to be

01:07:42.920 and like it just messed everything up in my head in what way in what way i'm getting out of it

01:07:51.460 still man like i i yeah i'm not like the pillar of healthy relationships no it's not that i never

01:07:58.420 like cheated on anybody it's just um i've just flown solo most of my life you know so like being

01:08:06.980 being with somebody that's that's uh i don't know that much about it yeah yeah are you interested

01:08:13.120 in exploring that more yeah for sure for sure you're gonna need to find a a woman who can level

01:08:19.580 you up in that way who's who's probably done it before and had experience in healthy relationships 0.98

01:08:24.600 i think so because otherwise were you gonna just you're gonna just conjure up or fucking you're 0.96

01:08:29.480 gonna be the perfect boyfriend magically i mean you've done it before you've made you made extreme 0.98

01:08:33.180 look if there's anyone that could do it you probably get it done no no i think i need all

01:08:37.400 the help i can get you see you see a therapist i haven't been but i have in my past yeah do you

01:08:44.720 yeah yeah yeah i started seeing one recently helpful uh yeah yeah immensely yeah immensely 0.98

01:08:52.180 did you know about this nope did you know how i found out about this it was the fucking this 0.80

01:08:56.660 happened yesterday this is a true story he's my best friend bro i know everything about him i know 1.00

01:09:02.180 His difficulties of wiping his ass 0.99

01:09:04.300 When his hand broke 1.00

01:09:05.400 We're sitting in

01:09:07.800 And we're not smoking weed

01:09:09.540 I'm not smoking weed

01:09:10.420 But I'm sitting there with this non-joint in my hand 0.99

01:09:12.340 And he goes oh fuck I forgot 0.99

01:09:14.760 And I go what did you forget 1.00

01:09:16.620 He goes my therapist is calling me

01:09:18.380 And I'm seeing this girl call him

01:09:19.820 And I'm cracking up because I'm like oh yeah therapist 0.98

01:09:22.460 Right and this girl answers 0.94

01:09:24.520 With like her hair 1.00

01:09:26.460 Like perfectly positioned 0.79

01:09:27.880 Beautiful books around her

01:09:30.180 Logan are you

01:09:31.620 ready for your session

01:09:33.100 I swear to God 1.00

01:09:35.420 and this girl

01:09:36.240 respectfully

01:09:36.920 I have an amazing

01:09:37.860 beautiful girlfriend 1.00

01:09:38.500 this girl looked like 1.00

01:09:39.160 a Victoria Seacremont 1.00

01:09:40.340 I do

01:09:41.460 I do know about this

01:09:43.140 he

01:09:43.540 you did tell me about this 0.99

01:09:45.200 this fucking 1.00

01:09:45.960 smoke show 1.00

01:09:47.040 that you met

01:09:48.480 and was the only

01:09:49.820 person that was able

01:09:50.860 to get you into

01:09:51.760 a therapist's office

01:09:52.840 do you know how

01:09:53.560 he got this started

01:09:54.480 he was at a

01:09:57.080 party

01:09:57.500 yes 0.76

01:09:57.940 with a lady

01:09:58.900 yes I remember this

01:09:59.580 yeah my

01:10:00.040 daughter's a therapist and he's like oh is she hot she goes yeah and he's like well give her a call

01:10:06.040 and he goes well i'm working on myself and she's you know she's pretty cute you know but but i'm 0.94

01:10:10.780 no but here's the fucked part i'm i'm he's like could you drive because i want to go through the 0.96

01:10:15.480 session tell me why i found a little bit more of myself listening to this psychopath next to me 0.99

01:10:21.600 break down his life she's saying the craziest shit to him and i'm like yo the balls on this 0.99

01:10:28.200 lady like i was like i've never heard anybody talk to this man have you ever thought about 0.99

01:10:32.320 this and he's like well i never thought about it that way i go maybe because you never give us a 0.99

01:10:36.180 fucking chance to dive into your soul asshole let me explain to you something you felt like 1.00

01:10:41.140 she was threatening your position in his life no i'm glad she came into his fucking life no no no 1.00

01:10:46.520 let me explain to you something he needs a therapist did they discuss ass wiping no no no 1.00

01:10:51.380 okay you guys actually we have yet to cross that bridge yeah uh no she's she's fantastic uh she's

01:10:56.780 very very good at her job and uh yeah yeah she's young and attractive i told george before she 0.73

01:11:01.360 i answered the phone so he wouldn't be taking a bath but but she a she has a boyfriend first 0.98

01:11:06.700 off first and foremost get your fucking mind and i've got to and b i'm obviously married uh 1.00

01:11:11.260 oh yeah my boy falls in love every three days 1.00

01:11:13.300 that's not true how how's how's it been changing your your outlook tell us i got a question about

01:11:22.240 therapy do you feel better like immediately right after you get off the phone or is it sort of like

01:11:29.300 a uh a rising tide i never thought therapy would work for me i'm so stubborn what i what's the i'm

01:11:38.360 just talking about my problems ew i'm just what talking or complaining for an hour disgusting

01:11:44.220 but that hour of intention and my why am i going to therapy right why is anyone going to therapy

01:11:52.040 I'd assume it's to maybe know a little more about yourself, maybe become a better version,

01:11:56.500 do better in a certain area of your life.

01:12:00.260 And so if I let myself down after that hour of intention and I don't always have what

01:12:06.040 I'm talking about subconsciously in the back of my mind, I'm only letting myself down.

01:12:09.900 So that hour of speaking about one thing will always just be there.

01:12:14.920 And so the thing that I want to improve or the topic of conversation that week will come

01:12:19.100 up in my life.

01:12:19.820 it'll be a dress and i'll maybe be a little bit a little bit more considerate which is something

01:12:23.940 i've been working on i want to be a better partner i want to be a better friend and these

01:12:28.280 things were before they were just solely desires now they're desires with a little bit more fuel

01:12:33.840 and so maybe i'll do something a little bit more considerate this week these are these are

01:12:39.000 character changes right these don't take a week these don't take two weeks it actually gives you

01:12:42.020 tools right this takes a year two years two years and so i i found it really beneficial in that way

01:12:47.480 And I

01:12:48.120 You know

01:12:48.780 I'm just

01:12:49.660 Diving in

01:12:50.360 Only a few

01:12:51.640 Handful of sessions

01:12:52.500 It's awesome 1.00

01:12:53.780 Maybe I need to do that shit 0.99

01:12:55.060 I think it'll help bro 1.00

01:12:56.640 Why not

01:12:57.180 I'm telling you

01:12:58.180 And also in the same way

01:12:59.380 Make me a better partner

01:13:00.280 Like you were saying

01:13:00.960 Dude

01:13:01.540 Yeah

01:13:01.960 I mean how can you

01:13:02.800 I wanna be a sick 1.00

01:13:04.140 Fucking partner 1.00

01:13:04.960 A really good partner 1.00

01:13:05.880 But I struggle with that sometimes

01:13:07.960 So what am I gonna do

01:13:08.800 Just sit here and say

01:13:10.020 I struggle with this sometimes 1.00

01:13:11.000 Or go fucking speak 0.99

01:13:12.220 That's what Mike does 0.99

01:13:13.080 Yeah

01:13:14.040 And by the way

01:13:14.780 My therapist

01:13:15.360 I'm just joking

01:13:16.760 No no no

01:13:17.300 but you're right but i i've done i've done therapy and i don't you ask the question like do you feel

01:13:21.760 better does it like leak in the only thing first of all it's even comparable for me has always been

01:13:27.000 workouts and i always liken the the feeling of walking out of the gym to the feeling of walking

01:13:32.380 out of the therapist's office when when i when i walk out i look at the sky a little bit differently

01:13:37.600 i'm a little bit more calm a little bit more relaxed and a little bit more happy and grateful

01:13:41.780 you know what i'm saying and it's immediately the second i walk out it's like yo this girl or or

01:13:46.800 dude just lifted a thousand pounds of bricks off my chest i told this person things that i've never

01:13:51.460 told anyone before because i don't go to therapy and i and i don't believe the majority of people

01:13:57.060 go to therapy to to try to uh accomplish more goals or to be a better partner for me at least 0.81

01:14:03.180 it's always been i just want to feel better man i don't want to fucking feel like this anymore i 0.51

01:14:07.020 want to wake up and and not feel that blanket of depression or anxiety or sadness you know what i'm 0.75

01:14:12.140 saying and like they some of these people are really fucking good at what they do yeah they

01:14:17.380 know how to ask you the right questions and honestly like one of the big things about therapy

01:14:21.240 that people overlook too is just like most people that are struggling like that they just haven't

01:14:26.080 talked to anybody in a while and all they ever wanted was somebody to just listen to them and

01:14:30.540 just give them an ear for an hour and even if you have to pay for it dude like even if you have to 0.75

01:14:34.640 fucking you know drive to the office and it's and it's administrative and in feeling you know what 0.96

01:14:39.620 i'm saying yeah just that hour also as a pro listener yeah you know yeah like just somebody 0.99

01:14:44.880 dedicated to you y'all i'm here for you to listen to to learn about you and to make you feel better

01:14:48.800 they're gonna be a better listener than your boys no offense usually yeah they went to college to

01:14:54.680 learn how to listen exactly they're pros yeah i would recommend that i never had like as deep as

01:15:00.060 good of an experience as you guys and the thing people always tell me is you didn't have the

01:15:05.240 right person they weren't the right match for sure so maybe that's true and you do it do a little

01:15:09.640 i've been through oh i've had some shitty therapists i've had i mean some dudes that

01:15:14.680 were just like you know like i don't go to therapy to meditate and i had you know i love i love the

01:15:19.700 idea of meditating and making that intentionful but i've gone a couple therapists so like we're

01:15:23.400 gonna meditate today you use that's not why i'm here men yeah that's how i'm here male therapists

01:15:28.120 always uh no no i i prefer women therapists because i've found that uh they have a little

01:15:34.480 bit more of a connection to the part of me that's missing uh and needs help which is the softer side

01:15:42.560 of me i'm fucking you know me i'm fucking rigid hard cold calculated to an extent on certain 0.95

01:15:49.240 things and i need that like mike is a serial killer that's correct yes he's got a serial 0.98

01:15:54.740 killer it's unfortunate but true he's like i'm cold i'm calculating no no but i just need that

01:16:01.340 I need that warm

01:16:02.420 I thought you were talking about me

01:16:03.960 I forgot his name was Mike

01:16:06.240 I'm the only Mike

01:16:07.820 What did I do

01:16:09.580 He's like how did they know

01:16:12.140 Why did you laugh and just stare at my boy then

01:16:14.220 I was like what

01:16:15.380 I said what

01:16:17.380 I said what

01:16:18.440 He's like I hid the bodies on the top of a mountain

01:16:22.480 For no reason

01:16:23.580 Calculated by the way is not

01:16:26.160 Even anything that I am

01:16:27.600 That was a complete mistake

01:16:29.480 Well you can't just say

01:16:30.240 Adjectives about yourself

01:16:31.380 That aren't true

01:16:32.120 I'm working on it

01:16:32.920 With my therapist

01:16:33.460 I hope so 1.00

01:16:34.220 The female 1.00

01:16:36.240 I never had a female 1.00

01:16:37.260 Like I said 1.00

01:16:38.720 It's just like

01:16:39.140 Imagine having your

01:16:39.880 Imagine having someone 0.51

01:16:40.640 That's a little bit more motherly 1.00

01:16:41.840 Yeah 1.00

01:16:42.540 In the office

01:16:43.200 When's the last time

01:16:43.920 You feel like you had

01:16:44.600 A crazy amount of fun 0.98

01:16:45.700 Damn this is fun

01:16:46.640 Crazy amount of fun 0.98

01:16:48.000 Today

01:16:48.980 Podcast

01:16:49.680 This has been good

01:16:51.400 This has been good

01:16:52.800 For sure

01:16:53.260 Crazy amount of fun

01:16:55.280 You came to Puerto Rico

01:16:55.840 I can't believe it

01:16:56.720 Oh man

01:16:57.940 You got him

01:16:59.380 i'm trying to think of like i can think a lot of times i have fun but like crazy

01:17:05.260 um i did this long bike trip this summer that was pretty good is it all physically intensive

01:17:12.360 i'm talking about fun mike yeah i don't know that that just seems to work for me road bike

01:17:17.580 road bike i do gravel biking what in the fudge gravel biking is uh in between road and and

01:17:24.080 Hybrid

01:17:24.460 It's basically made for dirt roads

01:17:27.060 If you've got gravel

01:17:28.620 It's like in between the dirt and the road

01:17:30.380 It's a bunch of gravel

01:17:31.540 Alright when's yours?

01:17:33.360 Maybe I'll jog something

01:17:34.180 My fun thing?

01:17:34.920 Yeah

01:17:35.140 Well

01:17:39.020 We were supposed to

01:17:40.220 Nevermind

01:17:43.200 Well

01:17:43.520 That doesn't sound very fun

01:17:44.880 Whatever that one was

01:17:46.040 I would have had an answer

01:17:48.440 I would have had

01:17:48.960 Last night we were supposed to put a 0.99

01:17:50.980 I ordered these mini top hats off Etsy

01:17:53.880 And there's these frogs

01:17:56.340 That are in Puerto Rico

01:17:58.140 And when you drive up to them

01:17:59.960 They freeze

01:18:00.760 And so I want to put this miniature Etsy top hat

01:18:04.100 On a frog

01:18:04.840 And take a picture of it

01:18:06.680 And in my mind that sounds so fun

01:18:08.660 And we were supposed to do it but it didn't happen

01:18:11.800 Why didn't we do it?

01:18:13.260 We ended up just not

01:18:14.440 Can we do that tonight?

01:18:15.400 Yes

01:18:15.680 And we can go to the beach

01:18:17.180 Especially if you look at it as so much fun

01:18:19.760 Then you should do it

01:18:20.820 Because I went on a ride at Six Flags

01:18:23.600 Maybe like two weeks ago

01:18:24.580 That goes like this

01:18:26.620 But way high

01:18:28.260 It's called the Lasso of Truth 0.99

01:18:30.720 Wonder Woman Lasso of Truth

01:18:32.000 It's in like Napa Valley, California

01:18:34.600 And it went so high 0.99

01:18:36.160 This is like a big boy fucking ride 1.00

01:18:37.900 Like crazy shit 1.00

01:18:38.860 And I was on it with my brother-in-law 1.00

01:18:40.000 And we were just flying through the sky

01:18:42.240 My feet 1.00

01:18:42.660 My little stupid flat smashed potato feet 1.00

01:18:44.880 Were just dangling in the air 1.00

01:18:45.980 And I was making sounds like this

01:18:47.100 Whoa

01:18:47.420 You could see those things from the ground

01:18:49.280 Yeah literally 0.99

01:18:50.280 Bunging shit everywhere 0.99

01:18:51.160 Yeah 100% 1.00

01:18:51.700 And they said that actually

01:18:52.800 Dude, there was so much surface area on my feet

01:18:54.360 that it was slowing the ride down.

01:18:56.140 Bro, did you go to Cedar Point?

01:18:57.520 Come on.

01:18:58.540 Yeah.

01:18:59.480 Millennium Force, dog?

01:19:01.000 Come on. 0.94

01:19:02.060 That place is nuts. 1.00

01:19:03.160 The Gemini, Top Thrill Dragster. 0.94

01:19:05.320 Top Thrill Dragster.

01:19:06.080 Top Thrill Dragster was underwhelming.

01:19:08.860 I disagree.

01:19:10.600 I fully, I was thrilled.

01:19:12.460 That's the one that just launched it, right?

01:19:14.800 There was one other one.

01:19:16.280 Maverick?

01:19:16.780 Was it the Maverick?

01:19:17.360 The Maverick.

01:19:18.280 There was a Maverick.

01:19:19.080 There was a Gemini.

01:19:21.240 That's your name, right?

01:19:22.360 yeah yeah yeah

01:19:23.400 is that where you got it

01:19:24.020 from Cedar Point

01:19:25.020 ride bro

01:19:25.800 no that's where they got it

01:19:26.980 they made it after

01:19:27.600 they made it after

01:19:28.320 it's after you

01:19:29.360 yeah

01:19:29.580 he's suing me 1.00

01:19:30.300 fuck it bro 1.00

01:19:30.980 you gotta ride at Cedar Point 1.00

01:19:32.500 you made it

01:19:33.660 you made it 1.00

01:19:35.060 holy shit 0.99

01:19:36.400 we could do a whole episode 0.99

01:19:37.520 on a theme park sometime

01:19:39.140 what's your

01:19:40.040 what's your relationship

01:19:41.840 with

01:19:42.220 twice

01:19:43.040 what are those horses doing here

01:19:44.380 two of them 0.99

01:19:45.420 what's your relationship

01:19:47.580 with weed

01:19:48.340 the good old fashioned

01:19:49.540 Mary J

01:19:50.380 I don't have much of one

01:19:51.760 i stopped smoking maybe 10 11 years ago okay and uh occasionally now i'll take a um very low

01:19:59.620 dosage of edible um i'm talking 2.5 milligrams oh very low would be the top i'd go why even

01:20:08.660 take it this summer i like got back from everest and from the retreat i was like it's like i'm

01:20:14.400 going crazy maybe i'll try that this summer because i because i had the whole summer i got

01:20:18.500 a house in in michigan i'm gonna just take the rest of summer to do nothing i was like maybe i'll

01:20:24.420 try doing that again and then the proper dose it's like you know last time i smoked i was like

01:20:28.920 doing bong rips and it's like it was a different thing so you have at one point been pretty pretty

01:20:36.060 involved invested it was like something i would do once or twice a week you know i was never heavy

01:20:41.300 in the game yeah yeah too much do you feel like

01:20:46.560 you've met so many people and had so many experiences because this this path that i

01:20:54.240 can kind of i see going on now i think is going to yield a really like

01:20:58.180 vast wealth of knowledge that you're going to be able to share like you want to one day

01:21:05.300 but do you ever get overwhelmed by how much is out there how vast the world is

01:21:11.240 how grand this planet is there's a there's a word called sonder and it's it's second new word of the

01:21:18.700 day sonder it's beautiful it's uh i mean it's a it's a pan used to fry onions by the way i think

01:21:25.480 it's uh it's it's it's a phobia it's basically the fear that you know this it's a realization

01:21:30.960 that there's seven billion people on this planet each with a life as vivid and complex as yours

01:21:36.020 i get kind of caught up in this weird like existential whoa the world is so great and i

01:21:46.900 want to understand all people and try to live as many experiences as i can and do all these things

01:21:52.700 but it's it's a lot and and you're living it and a few people in the world can can can go and

01:22:00.820 through these experiences but

01:22:02.560 sometimes spreading the takeaways

01:22:04.920 is really hard because

01:22:06.860 fitting all of it into your brain

01:22:08.500 is overwhelming I find

01:22:10.080 I had that

01:22:14.860 a few years ago

01:22:16.700 I don't really have it anymore

01:22:19.480 I don't know if part of it

01:22:22.940 is the retreat stuff

01:22:25.000 where it's like

01:22:26.440 or maybe it's just i think another part of it more than more than that is like

01:22:32.640 it just touring i got toured for for basically 10 years and so it's sort of the mystique of

01:22:40.900 travel is left and i've been to some of the sorry to wrap up to that point but hang on to what you

01:22:50.260 got like you go to some of the same places twice you know like i've been to grand canyon and i've

01:22:55.920 and then went back there

01:22:59.560 two years later

01:23:00.320 and just felt in my head

01:23:01.840 and depressed

01:23:02.980 and it's like 0.99

01:23:04.340 oh it's not the fucking place 0.99

01:23:05.740 it's me 0.99

01:23:07.020 and wherever I go

01:23:08.560 Charlie's coming 1.00

01:23:10.800 that motherfucker 1.00

01:23:11.860 you know 1.00

01:23:12.320 and it's like

01:23:13.020 so that sort of rearranged

01:23:15.640 my goals a little bit

01:23:16.920 I met this guy

01:23:20.240 tell me what you were going to say

01:23:22.740 no no

01:23:23.300 I was going to say

01:23:24.220 yeah branching off of that

01:23:25.460 besides what I'm talking about.

01:23:27.580 Maybe it's that first impression

01:23:29.360 that is the thing.

01:23:32.160 Well, I think it ties into your other thing

01:23:34.160 of you're always working

01:23:35.980 because,

01:23:38.400 or let's not call it work

01:23:39.460 because I know it doesn't show up as work for you.

01:23:41.260 You love it.

01:23:41.960 Yeah.

01:23:42.260 And I got that.

01:23:42.960 I try.

01:23:44.320 You love making the content.

01:23:46.460 It's a blessing for sure.

01:23:48.120 You love it.

01:23:52.020 The never turning that off

01:23:53.760 like it's endless what you could capture like those may be connected whereas like if you did

01:24:03.640 turn off and see what was there there might be a there might be a new peace of mind like you

01:24:10.360 were saying a comfort from just being here yep and that might be something you bring with you

01:24:16.120 everywhere but uh does that make sense yeah like you know you're never gonna get all the

01:24:23.940 all the human experiences possible you can't live them all in one life i know you know yeah so

01:24:29.720 go ahead i do understand what he's saying though i actually recently had a higher level of that

01:24:36.680 i started having fomo of people from the past that i'll never get like i'll never have a

01:24:42.480 conversation with like historians pilgrims like the way what pilgrims pilgrims no but for real not

01:24:48.860 even not even as a joke i would love to go back in the time and understand why they made their

01:24:53.560 decisions the way they made them uh what was their theology why do they believe it that way

01:24:58.280 uh why do they play games that way ask you you're religious no i'm not part of any religion but

01:25:05.860 definitely have like a spiritual part of my life yeah um yeah is there a certain part of the country

01:25:13.580 that you feel you relate to or connect with more midwest i'm from michigan i love ohio i was telling

01:25:20.920 caleb earlier walked across ohio and a lot of like when my career was starting a lot of my first

01:25:25.940 shows were there sick so i definitely connect to like there um the the like the mountains

01:25:32.840 In Colorado

01:25:33.620 For sure

01:25:34.780 Like the east coast

01:25:36.480 I feel like

01:25:37.140 I'm like

01:25:37.760 This is like

01:25:38.500 Slightly different

01:25:39.740 What do you mean

01:25:41.640 By that exactly

01:25:42.160 I don't know

01:25:42.660 Zach can't put my finger on it

01:25:44.080 I'd love you to tell me

01:25:44.640 You mean it in a bad way

01:25:45.600 Or

01:25:45.860 Not like they're better

01:25:47.640 Worse

01:25:48.020 I feel like I don't

01:25:48.900 I feel like I'm on

01:25:49.900 A different wavelength

01:25:50.620 When I go to Boston

01:25:52.280 That's where you're from

01:25:54.060 Just calm down

01:25:54.820 Mike's from New Jersey

01:25:56.740 Do you feel that though

01:25:57.480 When you go to Midwest

01:25:58.440 Mike's from Maine

01:25:59.620 Of course

01:25:59.640 The place that gave me 0.97

01:26:01.960 a visceral fucking feeling immediately was when I landed in California for the first time saw the 0.98

01:26:09.040 coast of California saw the mountains run into the sea saw Big Sur I that place changed my life 0.97

01:26:15.040 forever saw the saw the palm trees saw the how did it change your life it gave the the the land

01:26:21.420 all I remember saying to myself was the landscape is dramatic it's a dramatic landscape when you 0.73

01:26:29.320 drive down the 405 the big fucking hills with the houses big houses on top of them everything's big 0.94

01:26:35.340 and you know uh extravagant and and and big you know the beaches are are wide and and you know 0.71

01:26:42.140 it's just like i don't know there's just something about like that pacific air and the pacific ocean

01:26:45.900 that just like spoke to me and i was i was there for one day and i was like i'll live i'll live

01:26:49.420 here for the rest of my life it was just it just struck me like a like an ambulance that runs over

01:26:55.000 a patron you ever been struck by an ambulance no just in general in life street fight oh in a fight 0.99

01:27:03.660 my last fight was in uh was in high school do you win fuck no that's why it's my last fight 1.00

01:27:09.780 yeah he beat my ass yeah i got my ass i wrote a song about it i got my ass kicked there was 1.00

01:27:17.940 this kidney i learned from it too man hopefully to bob and weave 1.00

01:27:22.220 i was like for whatever reason my where i grew up was very diverse uh but sort of like in the way

01:27:35.840 the friend groups cut out like sort of self-segregated this was like you know the jewish

01:27:40.660 kids these kids and black kids whatever my friends ended up being the the black kids

01:27:46.500 i was for whatever reason i was in that clique and there was like i felt like i don't know like

01:27:54.320 i was like the guardian of how like i'm like 14 13 like i i'm like the expert on how white people

01:28:01.440 should relate to black people a purveyor of the culture that's what i thought i was like 0.99

01:28:06.420 fucking idiot and this kid this new kid showed up at our school and he was pretty big he was a white 0.99

01:28:12.580 kid and he wore i remember he used to wear fubu oh and i hated him because i thought he broke one 1.00

01:28:19.440 of my rules like you're not allowed to wear that right like it's my decision was it by the way was

01:28:26.940 it just fubu or was what about south pole like uh i'm sure he had all that going on you know but it

01:28:33.300 was just like i made elaborate why he shouldn't be wearing this because i have no idea fubu was

01:28:38.100 a brand called for us by us and the us was my understanding african-american and he was a white

01:28:44.000 guy wearing it and like i said i thought i was like the gatekeeper of it's so funny to hear you

01:28:50.400 guys experience this i had a big thing i had this judgment about this guy and i never spoke to him 0.99

01:28:56.200 bro i was like oh this guy's full of shit he's fake all because of what he was wearing 0.65

01:29:01.220 and uh as the school ended one day i was walking and i remember i was just like i was looking for 1.00

01:29:09.300 trouble everyone was leaving school i was walking the wrong way and i locked eyes with him he locked

01:29:14.600 eyes with me it was crazy we just were like a like a tractor beam we just went he was like what the 0.73

01:29:22.300 he was like what the fuck are you looking at and then he pushed me and like i went to push him 0.98

01:29:27.460 back before i even did he hit me five times in the same eye that's so many times what were you 0.99

01:29:36.440 doing one two three it was quick it was quick dude i got a black eye i was i got suspended we 0.99

01:29:45.160 both got in trouble you got suspended for getting your ass kicked yeah i was fighting yeah if you 0.99

01:29:48.820 trying to you'd even swing back i was trying it didn't work out he got smoked i got like you're 1.00

01:29:55.380 a pussy kid that's settled yeah seven days for you for beating him up eight days and you need 0.99

01:30:00.720 an extra day to think about what you did i found out that like all my all my judgments about him 0.99

01:30:06.500 were completely wrong like he came to our school because he got kicked out of last school he stole

01:30:11.200 a car like he was from he was from like a really tough and like he was actually really hard this

01:30:17.880 kid was hard he was harder than all the people you're trying to protect he said you're gonna

01:30:22.160 learn today and he did it was hard and he beat the shit out of me and i just realized like 0.98

01:30:26.360 i like look you're you're like a real fighter and shit so like 0.95

01:30:32.100 well he won as much as you actually so 0.98

01:30:35.020 george got him bro george george fires back

01:30:45.420 we only have like one joke that we ever say it's like the same one over and over

01:30:52.160 but that was timed very well because sadly he hasn't learned his lesson yet as much as as much

01:31:00.080 as you bro anyways bro i went to a gym a few times like enough to know that like

01:31:10.140 you before i thought like if you're strong you should be scared of that person like that guy

01:31:17.260 looks big yeah and then you go to gym you realize like you have no eye like the guy can look however

01:31:22.580 he looks and be such a good fighter and so you just never know so i just decide like bro like

01:31:28.380 if i can avoid fighting probably do that yes you know for sure if you can you know obviously like

01:31:35.080 if if it's some situation where like you're in danger like a loved one's you gotta you gotta

01:31:40.620 defend them yeah probably knowing how to do that it's not a bad thing agree but uh that kid had

01:31:45.240 That fire 0.99

01:31:45.940 You know that fucking fire 1.00

01:31:47.460 You should have seen it in his eyes 1.00

01:31:50.640 That's what I

01:31:51.540 Because we know what you were mad about

01:31:53.040 Like what was he on his back

01:31:54.340 Like he was walking

01:31:55.340 He's like you know what 1.00

01:31:56.000 Fuck this kid 1.00

01:31:56.960 With the multi punch 1.00

01:31:59.700 That kid

01:32:01.080 Yeah why was he so upset with you

01:32:03.880 Right off the rip

01:32:04.560 I was

01:32:05.100 I was set too though

01:32:06.180 Oh bro I felt it

01:32:08.100 Okay

01:32:08.340 It was like we were fighting

01:32:09.320 I see

01:32:09.640 And we barely even spoke

01:32:10.520 Well it could have been

01:32:11.120 The fact that you looked at him like this

01:32:12.640 Could have been

01:32:14.120 I don't know

01:32:15.880 We just

01:32:16.220 But he was looking at me

01:32:17.260 The same way

01:32:17.920 It was crazy

01:32:18.500 I saw him again

01:32:21.680 One other time

01:32:22.600 Like

01:32:22.940 And you walked away

01:32:23.840 He was cool

01:32:25.020 You know after you fight

01:32:26.000 Someone's times

01:32:26.560 You're like

01:32:26.840 You're like friends

01:32:27.840 After

01:32:28.180 Yes 0.99

01:32:28.540 Weird ass 0.99

01:32:29.600 Weird ass 1.00

01:32:30.920 Masculine 1.00

01:32:31.800 Yeah it is

01:32:32.400 100%

01:32:33.120 And then you like

01:32:33.700 Respect the other guy

01:32:34.400 Yeah it's a respect thing

01:32:35.240 Yeah 1.00

01:32:35.580 We're stupid 1.00

01:32:36.400 We're primal 1.00

01:32:37.040 Fucking males 1.00

01:32:37.900 Yeah 1.00

01:32:38.220 Isn't it so weird

01:32:39.380 How right after

01:32:40.080 All of a sudden

01:32:40.520 You like

01:32:41.220 Everything drops off

01:32:42.540 And you're like

01:32:42.780 Yo man

01:32:43.240 Like you know

01:32:43.840 everything i said about your mom like we had to get it out again why is that why is that i don't

01:32:48.880 know it's a respect thing i know like i have a lot of my closest friends that are till this day 0.99

01:32:53.440 were from beat your ass yeah no not even not even as a joke like a legit like we would beat the 0.98

01:32:59.880 fuck out of each other and then we were late it's kind of like you step up to the plate yeah 1.00

01:33:04.000 if you beat my ass in a fight i have more respect for you but if i beat your ass i'm not like yo 1.00

01:33:08.360 fuck this kid i'm like dude honestly i respect you for even fighting yeah it's it takes a lot 1.00

01:33:13.520 Dude, I've gotten my ass kicked 1.00

01:33:16.480 And I say that 1.00

01:33:17.800 It sounds really funny 0.99

01:33:18.760 But I've gotten my ass kicked so many times 0.99

01:33:20.260 That I'm the most dangerous person 1.00

01:33:21.880 Because I'm not scared of getting my ass kicked 1.00

01:33:23.120 I've been there 1.00

01:33:24.520 It hurt

01:33:25.160 I see what you're saying

01:33:25.960 You try to fight both island boys 1.00

01:33:28.780 I'll do whatever it takes

01:33:29.740 But there's a lot of people that have never been in a fight

01:33:32.600 You try to fight the island boys manager

01:33:34.460 And the manager

01:33:35.020 Well, no, I was very calm with them

01:33:36.400 But like

01:33:37.720 Nah, bro, come on, bro

01:33:41.140 Absolutely not

01:33:42.500 am I going to be

01:33:43.180 I was sitting like

01:33:44.000 I was talking to my mom

01:33:44.800 on Christmas

01:33:45.220 I watched the

01:33:46.000 you were doing a 60 minutes interview

01:33:47.660 with Barbara Walters

01:33:48.680 I was like

01:33:48.700 tell me how you feel

01:33:49.640 I was literally

01:33:50.940 there was zero threats

01:33:52.420 in this situation

01:33:53.540 but that's how I said

01:33:55.740 that's how I said

01:33:55.880 were you sitting like this

01:33:57.100 no I did

01:33:57.680 I watched the footage

01:33:58.520 because I was dying 1.00

01:33:59.220 like a fucking statuette 1.00

01:34:00.880 in a garden 1.00

01:34:01.520 but a lot of

01:34:02.820 I don't

01:34:03.600 have you ever punched somebody

01:34:05.360 that's never been punched

01:34:06.380 in the face

01:34:06.840 it's actually the funniest reaction

01:34:08.880 they get hit

01:34:09.920 and they're like

01:34:10.540 wait a second

01:34:11.740 I was not expecting that to feel like that

01:34:14.520 100%

01:34:15.360 It's so funny because this is their face

01:34:18.520 Yeah 1.00

01:34:19.020 They're like oh shit 1.00

01:34:24.140 Now luckily I grew up with Middle Eastern parents 1.00

01:34:26.480 So you got punched in the face 1.00

01:34:27.620 My first time I ever got hit in the face

01:34:29.380 I swear to god I was like

01:34:30.360 That's nothing

01:34:33.140 That is absolutely nothing

01:34:35.180 So I got abused by my father

01:34:37.700 I just want you to take that 0.65

01:34:38.520 Jesus Christ

01:34:39.740 Is your therapist open around 6pm later

01:34:43.180 She will buy

01:34:44.720 I need help

01:34:45.440 Evidently George you like fast food

01:34:48.520 Nah

01:34:49.600 We got Popeyes outside if you want some

01:34:52.800 Wow

01:34:53.500 Sorry

01:34:54.980 You shouldn't like fast food

01:34:58.380 It's bad for you dude

01:34:59.240 I mean I'm still gonna eat it

01:35:00.740 I love Popeyes

01:35:01.640 It tastes good

01:35:05.360 There's no denying that

01:35:07.520 You're so healthy 1.00

01:35:08.640 What the fuck 1.00

01:35:09.380 Hey man I'm getting older 1.00

01:35:10.580 Skin looks good too

01:35:11.780 Yeah 1.00

01:35:12.180 Sprouts

01:35:12.620 You gotta sprout

01:35:13.600 The supermarket

01:35:15.980 Sprouts

01:35:16.840 The store

01:35:17.260 You gotta start sprouting

01:35:18.240 You do fish oil

01:35:19.280 Yeah

01:35:20.200 You get your omega 3's

01:35:21.700 How do I sprout

01:35:22.400 Okay you get

01:35:23.180 It's the easiest thing in the world

01:35:24.960 You get a mason jar

01:35:26.940 Too much already

01:35:27.920 You get a mason jar 1.00

01:35:28.880 No fucking shot 1.00

01:35:29.900 I wouldn't even 1.00

01:35:31.200 No shot

01:35:32.320 You said

01:35:33.960 You said

01:35:34.460 You started this

01:35:35.480 You started this

01:35:36.640 You have a mason jar.

01:35:37.960 No, a man named Mason.

01:35:39.240 You have a mason.

01:35:39.800 Listen, you have a mason jar, and it gives one of those screen tops on it.

01:35:43.120 I get it for you.

01:35:44.580 You put the seeds in, two tablespoons.

01:35:47.320 They soak overnight.

01:35:48.820 The next day, you rinse them out, and you rinse them again,

01:35:52.940 and then you leave them tilted like that.

01:35:55.820 You do that twice a day.

01:35:56.760 It takes about 15 seconds each time.

01:36:00.640 And for broccoli sprouts, six days later, they're done.

01:36:03.760 And they're like

01:36:05.000 The problem

01:36:05.840 If you buy them from the store

01:36:07.280 I mean it's not a problem

01:36:08.100 But they've been dead

01:36:09.780 For a day or two

01:36:10.940 To get to the store

01:36:12.060 At least

01:36:12.760 Right

01:36:13.420 But these

01:36:14.720 Like you grow yourself

01:36:15.580 They're still a lot

01:36:16.020 Do you grow yourself? 1.00

01:36:16.960 Yeah fuck yeah 1.00

01:36:17.540 I got eight jars going 1.00

01:36:18.580 Green thumb guy?

01:36:19.360 No I just got sprouts

01:36:20.380 Because it's easy

01:36:21.180 If I have

01:36:21.840 I'd like to get a garden

01:36:23.400 But I'm not there yet

01:36:25.080 I have

01:36:25.460 Somewhat

01:36:26.580 Pickles

01:36:27.260 You like pickles?

01:36:28.340 Love pickles

01:36:28.980 So do I

01:36:29.460 I don't know why

01:36:30.180 Dill pickles?

01:36:31.000 What is this question?

01:36:32.440 We like to get into

01:36:33.680 Do you prepare this?

01:36:35.820 No we usually get into what's like rapid fire at the end of the show

01:36:38.540 It's just kind of our thing

01:36:40.200 Pickles? Yeah pickles

01:36:41.300 You don't have to drive a tourist

01:36:42.720 The research on these things

01:36:45.640 Because you're an athlete

01:36:46.840 Especially I want to look young for a while

01:36:49.360 The research on these things

01:36:50.860 For broccoli sprouts 0.99

01:36:52.520 You can sprout all sorts of shit 0.99

01:36:53.940 But broccoli sprouts 1.00

01:36:56.880 Is crazy

01:36:58.260 I love gardening

01:37:00.400 I really do

01:37:01.200 I want to grow old

01:37:02.540 To have a really nice garden

01:37:04.040 Yeah

01:37:04.600 And I'll do

01:37:06.060 I'll put sprouts in there now

01:37:07.400 Sprouts can be inside

01:37:08.660 And they don't need sunlight

01:37:09.820 They're so easy

01:37:11.860 Wow

01:37:12.160 Inside

01:37:12.800 No sun

01:37:13.520 Wow

01:37:13.860 Alright

01:37:14.480 I gotta give it a shot

01:37:15.200 Just a jar

01:37:15.640 Do you drink it?

01:37:15.820 I'm sorry

01:37:16.100 Do you drink the water?

01:37:17.200 Yeah yeah yeah

01:37:18.000 Wait

01:37:18.140 No

01:37:18.380 So it's got a screen top right?

01:37:20.980 So everyday

01:37:21.440 You're essentially keeping the seeds wet

01:37:23.500 Okay

01:37:24.340 And then you rinse

01:37:25.120 And it drains out

01:37:26.020 Imagine this has a screen top

01:37:27.460 So all the water comes out

01:37:28.580 At the end

01:37:29.300 It's just like

01:37:30.020 Sprouts you get from the store

01:37:31.500 You drink the water or something

01:37:32.960 No not the water

01:37:34.100 You eat the sprouts

01:37:34.960 After they soak in the water

01:37:37.140 The way I understand it

01:37:39.400 The broccoli sprout is to the broccoli

01:37:42.960 As the stem cell is to the regular cell

01:37:45.840 These are like

01:37:46.420 They're packed with nutrients

01:37:49.140 So this is super food

01:37:50.800 So you know traditionally

01:37:52.700 You'd sprinkle some sprouts on a salad

01:37:54.800 I'm eating like a salad

01:37:57.500 Of sprouts

01:37:58.240 Sprouts.

01:37:58.900 Yes. 1.00

01:37:59.440 Dude, you're a fucking legend for that, bro. 1.00

01:38:02.360 Just eating sprouts. 1.00

01:38:03.380 Growing and eating sprouts.

01:38:04.040 Oh, it's great.

01:38:04.940 Be honest.

01:38:05.520 They feel good, man, when you eat them.

01:38:07.080 I think...

01:38:07.500 They feel great.

01:38:08.380 I think you got a lot of things figured out.

01:38:10.440 I think you...

01:38:11.140 I don't know if you feel like this, but I think you got a lot of things figured out.

01:38:13.420 More than I did before, for sure, but not all things, man.

01:38:16.620 For sure.

01:38:17.660 Yeah. 1.00

01:38:18.060 You suck. 1.00

01:38:18.940 You guys inspire me, man. 1.00

01:38:20.340 I'm gonna think about this therapist thing. 1.00

01:38:23.020 Female therapist. 1.00

01:38:24.380 I'm telling you, you should... 0.99

01:38:25.840 I mean, for me, bro, like women are just easier to talk to.

01:38:29.180 I feel like I can open up more to, you know, like my mom and maybe then I can my dad sometimes. 1.00

01:38:37.700 That's not true.

01:38:39.060 But I can open up to both my parents.

01:38:42.940 But in general, like, yeah, I think you should.

01:38:45.160 You'd be surprised with the results.

01:38:48.060 Is there anything else before we go that you want to mention or plug or ask questions?

01:38:53.940 I'll see anything.

01:38:55.840 I want to thank you for having me on, all three of you guys.

01:39:02.080 Of course, bro.

01:39:02.540 All you guys behind the camera, Caleb, shout-outs, Kevin.

01:39:09.560 My hope is that the conversation is of value for us.

01:39:15.420 I know I'm taking something away from it, but also for everyone listening.

01:39:18.680 So if that's the case, I thank you in advance for that.

01:39:22.240 And I don't know what else I got to add.

01:39:26.460 If they had to pray for you, what would you want them to pray for?

01:39:28.720 That's a great question, man.

01:39:31.560 I would say peace of mind.

01:39:33.180 I'm going to make a little list here.

01:39:34.860 It's my Christmas list.

01:39:36.000 Peace of mind.

01:39:40.400 That I learned to be a great partner.

01:39:46.520 And that I'm of, that I help others experience transcendence.

01:39:52.240 and what i mean by transcendence is like a moment where your normal life

01:39:59.820 a moment that cuts through the mundanity of your normal life you know those moments like whoa

01:40:06.040 uh if i can as much as i can help other people feel that love that's great put those through

01:40:13.480 you if you pray for me if you pray for me those will be it love that love that awesome mike

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