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00:02:35.200 That's why he plays all the nice part in the house.

00:02:36.720 Oh, look, they're bonding.

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00:02:55.060 We have Steve Aoki in the house, in his house.

00:02:58.140 We're in his house.

00:02:59.140 Steve, welcome to Impulsive, brother.

00:03:01.580 Yeah, thank you.

00:03:02.580 Welcome to your basement.

00:03:03.580 Can you guys hear me?

00:03:04.580 Yeah.

00:03:05.580 It's close or what?

00:03:06.580 Yeah, yeah, it's fine.

00:03:07.580 It's fine.

00:03:08.580 You don't have to wear the headphones.

00:03:09.580 I imagine you do that enough as a...

00:03:10.580 Oh, you know what?

00:03:11.580 Let me try it out.

00:03:12.580 I was trying to be free for that moment, but maybe...

00:03:14.580 No.

00:03:15.580 Okay.

00:03:16.580 So you can hear me up here.

00:03:17.580 You know what?

00:03:18.580 I'm going to take the animals off.

00:03:20.580 Maybe you have to get kind of used to them.

00:03:22.700 We're so used to them now.

00:03:23.900 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:24.900 It's like part of...

00:03:25.900 Yeah.

00:03:26.900 Yeah.

00:03:27.900 And you're staying on rent if you're doing that every show. 0.95

00:03:28.900 your house is insane thank you crazy we've seen some crazy houses we just went to tony robbins 0.96

00:03:34.060 house oh wow motivational uh strategist crazy house but your house tell me like i'm you know 0.98

00:03:41.100 first thing in my mind is what's the most unique thing in this house he has a slide that goes from

00:03:47.100 his second floor to his basement and i think it's like the only way to get there yeah it's a slide

00:03:51.860 and so you have to go down he had to get a permits approved wow a tube slide yeah there's no stairs

00:03:57.340 or there's an L there's an elevator yeah I guess you can take that down as well but no what what

00:04:03.300 it is I guess in Florida you can't have basements because it's so wet there yeah and they had to

00:04:09.200 build this massive like submarine almost to house what he wanted to put in his basement which is

00:04:16.260 like bowling lanes oh wow basketball courts studios first his seminars so he can do them

00:04:23.460 digitally what else i mean yeah you got a pickpock table a pool table a movie theater room yeah a

00:04:28.480 kind of a lounge area like this and yeah dude like i i've been in your house for five minutes

00:04:32.520 and mike has jumped uh three stories off into a pool uh george's girlfriend bell has done twists 1.00

00:04:39.100 into your uh phone pit very impressive by the way she's very twisting many spins so many spins yeah 0.87

00:04:45.180 uh i i can't help but have this burning desire to do mushrooms and acid especially in that one

00:04:52.640 furry room yeah yeah that's the perfect room doing it for sure because i've even laid you

00:04:57.200 could sprawl out on the floor it's so soft and everything's so colorful already so you're just

00:05:01.020 like it's like every kind of are you speaking from experience i don't i mean i don't even need

00:05:05.580 a trip man like i'm already pretty high in life and high on everything else aren't aren't you sober

00:05:10.260 like full sober yeah i mean sober is the wrong word for me because i i don't it's not like i

00:05:14.860 have like a i'm not like recovering or anything i just i did drink pretty heavily because of i i

00:05:22.060 would just drink whenever i would dj and then at a there was a 2000 that was a big turning point

00:05:27.000 when i just was like all right i'm done drinking every show um and then that that just led me just

00:05:34.540 i was like okay i'm pretty good i never actually got into hard drugs um i tried dabbled in weed

00:05:41.120 very little enough to try enough where it just didn't do what it's supposed to do yeah you know

00:05:46.900 it feels exhausting that that that life of constantly traveling and and smoking and drinking

00:05:52.260 and i feel bad for most djs because a lot of them get through it by partying but like did you have a

00:05:57.460 a catalyst that made you go cold turkey like did something go horribly wrong yeah my my very yes

00:06:05.220 yeah my very close friend he was more of like uh kind of like a bigger big brother to me he passed

00:06:14.400 away and that that that really like tore me up so um it wasn't like he died of drinking per se it

00:06:24.060 was just for me i just needed it it was a complete reality check on everything and uh and and like

00:06:30.840 you know i you know when you're djing and you're like i mean in the beginning when you're djing

00:06:36.520 smaller bars and clubs it's like it's like you're partying you know when you're djing

00:06:44.320 concerts and bigger shows you're putting on a show but when you're in the club world you're like

00:06:51.120 you're like kind of one with the crowd so like if they're like but they're lit like you're lit

00:06:55.600 with them you know what i mean so it's kind of easy to to like drink and party with them and

00:07:00.020 if that's your thing every night you know a couple years down the line you're like wow i i drank like

00:07:05.980 you know i got drunk like 200 nights a year you know it's a lot you know what i mean like

00:07:10.960 so um you don't realize until it catches up with you and then that at that moment i was like well

00:07:15.820 i'm done i'm just gonna just stop i'm just gonna use this as like a kind of stopping point yeah

00:07:20.920 and like for me i feel lucky because i didn't i was never really addicted to it where i needed

00:07:26.300 to drink i just was always nervous before i got before i went for sure to dj and it like helped

00:07:33.120 me loosen up where i can just get crazy with it yeah yeah yeah which i totally understand it's

00:07:38.960 liquid courage is what it is and by the way i'm sorry to hear about the loss of a friend that i

00:07:42.320 did a horrible lead into that it was way too light-hearted no no no i mean no no i mean we're

00:07:47.780 just we're just casually talking about it but like um you know his name is dj am and he's of course

00:07:53.320 yeah and he and he's you know at that time he was the pioneer for djs he he kind of he was the

00:08:02.540 aspirational goal of what djs could do with their lives and because before then like djs would be

00:08:08.940 we'd make money but not like that we were like popular but we were not celebrities he was a

00:08:16.200 celebrity he was you know he was he was the first one to really make like some sizable amount of

00:08:22.340 money from it and um and he was also just a really kind generous human being so i was lucky just to

00:08:29.660 be able to be his presence and learn a lot from him and uh and it's just a sad story of him passing

00:08:35.380 away and um you know i i mean since since that turning point though like it's clear my like my

00:08:44.380 shows have changed i've transformed as a human you know uh i've i learned how to like treat myself as

00:08:52.820 an athlete mentally and when you do that then you you start changing the things that are important

00:08:59.780 in your life like for me i care about longevity yep i care about being able to play a lot of shows

00:09:04.360 and you know performing at the highest caliber so you have to you have to stop certain things you

00:09:09.620 have to like you know just like you like you know when you're in training mode you're like okay these

00:09:14.400 are the things that i have to do in the day these are the priorities i have to make in order for me

00:09:18.360 to excel at that level but it's so obvious for me i'm a boxer it's like i have to do these things

00:09:23.620 physically to be able to do the thing right the event the fight for you one of the first things

00:09:29.080 i remember someone telling me about you is how regimented you are with your health and um were

00:09:34.720 you at one point on a vegan diet yeah i was vegan for five years but that was probably the most 0.99

00:09:40.080 unhealthy i've ever been in my life oh shit same story vegans plug your ears no no i mean i i'm all 0.95

00:09:47.240 about a vegan lifestyle but like when i was vegan i was not healthy i was like i was ethically i was 0.99

00:09:53.400 doing for ethic reasons ethical reasons like you know because i didn't want to kill animals per se

00:09:57.720 but like i was eating like every carb on the on the plate you know like and only carbs yeah so

00:10:04.600 but i didn't really understand nutrition at that point um until later in my life i really dove into

00:10:11.220 that space and then you know but but now but now you do right you have i see the ice baths i see

00:10:17.100 the gym yeah yeah and when you're traveling as much as you are even just like walking in your

00:10:22.540 house i took a picture of the world records that oh yeah right there one of the world records here

00:10:27.100 The most traveled musician in one year is producer slash DJ Steve Aoki who clocked up 241,000 miles, performing a total of 168 shows around the world in 2012, which means you're on the road for more than half the year going crazy at parties every night.

00:10:44.580 And you can't have an unhealthy lifestyle.

00:10:46.340 You have to treat your body like a temple.

00:10:47.520 No, no, you can't.

00:10:48.320 I mean, it's not sustainable.

00:10:49.340 you can't you do it for a period of time but then not only physically you probably can't keep going

00:10:55.900 but mentally it's like the the fastest burnout i think it's all really up here because i think

00:11:01.560 your body could sustain a lot you know but it's like if you're if you can't be motivated mentally

00:11:07.420 how are you going to keep pushing forward you know like so um yeah it's always about like

00:11:12.660 remembering what why you're doing what you're doing right that's like the most important thing

00:11:17.120 for me is like okay i like i love playing shows i love making music this is i'm like so lucky to

00:11:23.360 even do what i do and make the money that i make and and also i get to like travel the world and

00:11:29.760 connect with so many different people and the best part about it is like i get to meet people

00:11:34.740 without even having to say a word like how cool is that to connect with someone and there's no

00:11:40.580 words exchanged it's like the music is doing the connection and then there is a real emotional

00:11:46.500 connection being made deeper deeper yeah words did you have you ever related to someone's words

00:11:53.860 more than you have like music has a way with people it's funny it is the universe you feel

00:11:59.740 right yeah it's wild and it's like some people that song did like it brings them back to a moment

00:12:08.400 where something really pivotal happened or impactful happened in their life and and like

00:12:14.440 they're able to express that moment right there and i get to actually experience that so that's

00:12:19.700 like one of the most beautiful things that can happen is that when you know there's a real

00:12:24.340 genuine experience with someone where they like went through a hard time in their life or

00:12:29.260 breakup or some some hardship and i mean we've all been there we've all like had been through a

00:12:35.520 down time and and a song it just lifted us up where nothing else could do you know that so uh

00:12:41.720 yeah it's like it's a very fortunate experience it's a sick byproduct of of this world and this

00:12:48.220 life you've built but you mentioned it what what is the thing that keeps you going why did you

00:12:53.060 first start in this in this music career because you also had an interesting uh childhood and

00:12:58.020 upbringing where i mean not to speak for you but when you have a father who did found benihana

00:13:06.000 you know like a perceived like really really wealthy guy i'm sure a lot of people grew up

00:13:11.020 or thought that you grew up with a silver spoon in your mouth but apparently that wasn't the case

00:13:15.680 and then here you are and you made this a whole other empire for yourself which had to be awesome

00:13:19.740 but where did that fire first start i want to make music i want to be a dj when you even said it

00:13:25.280 being a dj was not a thing right that was a that was a leap yeah that and that that came in

00:13:32.180 deeper in this evolution of music for me because in the beginning when i got into music when i was

00:13:37.480 in high school i got into a small subset of a culture of of of the scene it was like hardcore

00:13:47.540 and punk music so it was just a very like in my high school in newport beach there's only like a

00:13:51.900 few kids that that like this kind of music but at that time i mean newport beach where i grew up

00:13:57.740 is 96 white so if you're a minority or a person of color or or just anywhere different it's it's

00:14:05.620 like it's pronounced and uh i had a harder time making friends in the traditional way making

00:14:11.380 friends like through sports and whatnot i've tried every i tried it all and i just failed

00:14:15.720 miserably like you know i was playing trying to play football and i was like 96 pounds and like

00:14:20.640 i was like benched the whole time um and what whatever i try to do to fit in in you know in

00:14:26.180 the world and but it's like these kids that like they found their own little world they're they

00:14:34.160 kind of like let me in and the way you do that is by making each other mixtapes sick and and like

00:14:41.520 for me i remember my first mixtape i got it's kind of like a ticket to get into this culture

00:14:46.680 and i got this mixtape and i did not hear this music before it's like really strange to hear

00:14:54.660 someone screaming and like this music playing you can't really understand what's going on

00:14:59.260 but when you can decipher the code because it's kind of like that when you can find out like the

00:15:05.380 the secret message that only a few people can understand then you feel really cool you know

00:15:10.580 what i mean like i decipher the code i know what they're saying and it's like part of this little

00:15:15.200 little world that like you feel so special to be part of and someone gave you this like secret

00:15:20.660 like little ticket to get in what band what bands was it like no effects mxpx like pennywise i love

00:15:26.760 those bands like because i was a snowboarder too so i grew up with listening to all that stuff

00:15:30.300 right but it was more like fugazi minor threat through little biscuits which is like the first

00:15:35.180 tattoo i got wow you have to today uh you know like hardcore like that and uh and i learned all

00:15:42.700 the lyrics like immediately and then like i came in like going okay i'm educated from this tape

00:15:49.460 i want to show i'll prove it to you and and how you get your social points your respect

00:15:56.360 is by contributing like you can't you don't just go you get your social points by like walking in

00:16:01.880 with like a fresh pair of nikes you get your social points by like hey i made a zine guys

00:16:07.020 or like uh you know i don't know how to play an instrument but i i want to start a band you guys

00:16:12.940 want to create something and and that's how you got your cool points so like i would just

00:16:18.500 start a band with some friends we play horrible music and garages and and backyard parties and

00:16:24.720 made zines and put on shows what are zines like a fan zine like a magazine like you know we go to

00:16:31.560 the copy center and like you you like write poetry and like typewriters and and glue it on a piece of

00:16:37.820 paper and and then like take pictures at a show of a band and throw those ask them like five

00:16:43.180 questions hey well you know then put that in the zine and it's like you're you're creating the

00:16:48.980 culture by spreading the culture right sick it's like your own little magazine yes that you create

00:16:53.440 yourself printing the t-shirts i was like silk screen t-shirts so i learned how to do that you

00:16:58.960 know i was doing that in my mom's closet like 15 so you found that's hot that is hustling yeah

00:17:04.020 what is it what is hustling like that today look like is it well i don't know i mean what i what i

00:17:08.340 that's what i'm saying like what i got from him saying that was he learned early about the art

00:17:12.460 of adding value to other people's lives like you said you're not going to get culture points for

00:17:16.820 wearing the coolest shoes somebody might say that's cool for a second but when you start to

00:17:21.040 build and you're obviously so freaking good at this when you start to build a community

00:17:26.400 of people whether it's around music whether it's around nfts which is obviously the biggest part

00:17:32.040 of that game you learn that at a very young age you pick that up it's like about what you contribute

00:17:37.200 right right and learning that at a young age of why that's important to these people that i really

00:17:43.800 cared about their respect like i cared more about the respect than everyone else you know like i

00:17:47.780 wanted to get their like nod of approval and and build on that right so taking that element and

00:17:54.560 bringing that to college and then that's when i started putting on shows in college in my living

00:17:59.140 room and we did like 200 shows in college while i was you know doing ucsb i was putting on these

00:18:06.380 shows and then graduated college then i moved to la and that's where that's where the dj steve

00:18:13.260 aoki was born gotcha because i was in bands playing i was like by the time i was 21 i was

00:18:17.700 already i toured the u.s like 14 times in my little band playing in front of like 20 people

00:18:23.320 oh wow yeah what did you i played guitar in one band i played and sang in one band i sang in

00:18:29.080 another band i played bass in a band like i was in so many bands but like the like the biggest

00:18:34.940 show we ever played would be like 35 people you know and living rooms and rooms like this

00:18:39.780 you had no idea did you have anybody from the past be like dude i gotta get the band

00:18:44.320 i was thinking about you the other day yeah i like i used to scream so like there's no way i

00:18:53.700 do that anymore because i because i ruined my voice because i didn't know how to sing

00:18:57.280 like like screamo music yeah yeah oh my god did you ever get uh what are those things on your on

00:19:02.820 yeah yeah i got vocal cord surgery like six seven years ago and during that time you i couldn't

00:19:11.860 talk for one month yeah because they like have to like yeah they have to slice it so yeah you can't

00:19:17.060 talk for two weeks before and two weeks after so during that time there was major breakthroughs for 0.73

00:19:23.820 me because i had i had to like spend that time being totally quiet it was just fucking crazy 0.62

00:19:29.640 you did a vow of silence and inadvertent for a month yeah well so sitting here i've just listened 0.81

00:19:36.160 to you tell a few stories and each time was like at a low point and you're like all right what are

00:19:39.980 we gonna do even when we were walking around and you were like during covid blah blah blah

00:19:43.380 and you just like build on times where you were either standing still or in like a little of a

00:19:48.320 right like newport was hard for you but then you found a click that kind of moved you into this

00:19:53.040 music industry so you really make do for what you have and that's pretty cool yeah exactly and

00:19:57.680 like during that time the uh the the the vocal cord surgery time that's when i was like i really

00:20:04.020 want to actually learn how to meditate because i always toyed with it and i was doing it like

00:20:09.660 on the fly i'd listen to like the apps and stuff like that so i hired a a tm coach she came over

00:20:17.040 two hours a day for two weeks and we would meditate and she would like kind of like train

00:20:21.860 and coach me and guide me so i wouldn't you know because like the the real thing is like the two

00:20:26.940 week rule if you do something every day for two weeks you start picking up a regiment like a it's

00:20:33.120 no longer like a tedious task yep and i started doing that during that time it's like okay so

00:20:38.620 the two hours i've been spending with this coach is here then i want to get better at sound design

00:20:43.480 so i like i brought in some coaches that like like work on music with me just specifically on sound

00:20:48.680 design now i'm making music and i like i hired like a like a coach on language so i just was

00:20:53.360 like i gotta really do this or else i'm gonna go crazy i can't just play video games and like

00:20:58.240 yeah you know i hate wasted time it's the worst i'm sure he's the same way i know you do so much 0.95

00:21:04.160 shit logan so um you know what i don't do fucking meditate i admire that i admire that bro i i i 0.97

00:21:11.120 i've sounds very similar kind of played with it here and there and i've come to the conclusion 0.99

00:21:17.260 that it's probably not for me but you got a coach and having someone coach you and like hold your

00:21:22.520 hand is can be a game changer it is an absolute game changer because if i didn't have that coach

00:21:27.440 i would have never meditated at at the rate i'm doing now which i feel like has has created this

00:21:33.840 balance for my crazy ass schedule in life which has also led me down the path to think differently

00:21:40.900 about like what mindfulness means so you know like i would never probably gone into ice the 0.71

00:21:45.940 ice bath regimen or i would never got into like breath work daily or whenever gone to certain

00:21:50.660 things that that i think are really valuable to my overall optimal life you know you're doing ice

00:21:55.660 bath every day well i did i did during covet now i'm like it's harder but um during covet i was

00:22:01.580 like oh because you're not he's not here yeah yeah yeah oh i try to do like at least like now

00:22:06.200 like at the very least i do like once a week breath work every day this is all during covet

00:22:11.300 man i lost a lot of that but certainly you have a routine now of stuff that keeps you grounded

00:22:17.600 yeah what is it anything stand out in particular your healthy diet uh yeah diet diet uh working

00:22:24.360 out yeah meditation still i still do that in the mornings just how how that's that's gotten good

00:22:30.640 at it probably you need a coach i think that's like the best way for me to to like for someone

00:22:36.040 like me i need i need someone to train with no no you know what i need lee or i need vocal cord

00:22:40.860 surgery because i i'll be nah like i'm going i'm going and then i'll get the coach second

00:22:46.240 but you never know because you

00:22:48.760 I know you push yourself

00:22:50.300 really hard I mean because you are

00:22:52.660 you're a high caliber

00:22:55.100 individual you're always going to the

00:22:56.820 highest levels

00:22:58.220 there's going to be potentially a breaking point

00:23:00.900 for you and when that

00:23:03.000 happens you know

00:23:04.120 I might be at it dude

00:23:06.580 I'm kind of struggling right now to be honest

00:23:08.960 with you like I'm at the end of a bender

00:23:11.020 you know I was in LA for Super Bowl

00:23:13.080 week you hear my voice

00:23:14.320 Tell him what happened today at the casino

00:23:16.740 I won so much money

00:23:19.240 I can't believe it

00:23:21.560 Even when he's tired he wins

00:23:23.220 He's exhausted, he's like sorry all these W's 0.51

00:23:25.560 Are exhausting on my back

00:23:26.660 What's your game?

00:23:28.260 Dude I love roulette

00:23:29.860 But just as of today he loves roulette

00:23:32.280 You usually would sit and play blackjack with me

00:23:35.740 It's just not

00:23:36.700 I love watching the little ball

00:23:38.200 Just spinning around

00:23:40.000 Are you like a numbers guy

00:23:42.560 Or are you like a color

00:23:44.040 i'm both but the short answer is there's no strategy yeah they're just like okay this number

00:23:50.060 boom yeah and i like it because you can you can apply a backstory to any decision that you make

00:23:56.740 and in your head it's like oh it makes sense and then if it hits on 12 you're like i knew it was

00:24:01.800 gonna hit on 12 because in 2012 i graduated but i think dude i started with 10k i'm at like 70k

00:24:09.560 right now oh my god like why would i ever do youtube or impulsive or anything ever again if

00:24:14.800 i could just get rich at the casino wow what so what like is there like a pattern is there a

00:24:19.220 pattern you can share like on how he's having a very long he's having a lucky day today yeah

00:24:24.180 so like numbers hit or the colors hit both my last win i i i hit 12 i hit even and i hit red

00:24:32.040 all in one all it was like it was like a 30 40k win oh my god it's crazy you don't gamble

00:24:37.280 yeah i live here i was gonna say i live here it's too dangerous you can't right i so i i actually

00:24:43.220 thought i had a system down and i and i have this app on my phone that that like tracks all my my

00:24:50.060 like my profits and losses just like i if i treat like a business i'm thinking in my head if i treat

00:24:55.100 like a business and i know how much i make or lose every time i leave the table yeah i'll have like a

00:25:00.620 a good judgment right so i actually for a few years i had this whole system down and i was up

00:25:07.160 i was up a lot like i never actually lost i either was up or i was even and and the way i would do it

00:25:14.520 is like i play blackjack that's my game but my when i play blackjack i i tend to lose four or

00:25:21.700 five and then win one it's that bad it's like it's like you lose four or five where you win one or two

00:25:27.740 and you lose four or five you win one or two that's like the four or five hands in a row and

00:25:31.800 then one or two so all that matters is that the one or two that you're winning are the big ones

00:25:35.740 yes got it so the way i go i'm like i already like i know it's gonna lose so i'm like i put the

00:25:41.160 like my small initial bet down right just knowing it's gonna lose like i'm like hoping it's gonna

00:25:47.380 lose like okay these four are gonna lose good all right the fifth one i'm gonna stack and then

00:25:53.180 this is an interesting strategy and then come back to the one i've never it makes sense to me

00:25:57.180 i generally how would you how do you know it's it's a total guess it's a guess on pattern like

00:26:01.440 like in my head I'm like I got this down because I was winning two years straight and um and

00:26:07.160 obviously you go up and down and sometimes you're obviously not right every time but I thought that

00:26:11.640 like I had the I had the casino down and then and then I wonder how many people have said that

00:26:17.000 dude I thought I got it down so you're taking my home yeah the next the next year um I went I

00:26:25.360 applied the same thing I was like all right January new year new time ready to go I'm up

00:26:30.180 and uh like i tried the strategy but i kept losing on my my big presses and then i would like you

00:26:37.500 know get my marker i'm like okay i gotta double because i gotta make back the first because i

00:26:42.020 never want to go leave the table negative that's the thing and then i lost the second marker and

00:26:47.240 i gotta double the second and first marker and then i'm like i gotta get back to even and then

00:26:52.100 i'm just like in this hole i'm like okay first start of the year i'm just so down that's mikey

00:26:56.100 well how big are these markers steve like i do ten thousand dollar markers okay so you got you

00:27:00.740 have like a bad you might have a bad 50 100k night yeah like the first the first one was a 50k

00:27:05.740 uh loss yeah because i'm i'm happy if i make like two to ten grand like i would do a ten thousand

00:27:11.200 dollar marker if i'm up like two or five i don't need to sit at the table for like hours i can be

00:27:16.900 there for like 20 minutes see that's my problem that i can't leave even if i get a good stack

00:27:21.380 going i just like to play i like to play the game like that's why i'm there doing it because i i

00:27:26.000 thoroughly enjoy maybe it's because you're with friends no no okay yeah we make fun of him a lot

00:27:31.360 we make sure he knows we don't love him he's by himself his arms are crossed at the table

00:27:35.100 and he just taps his knee dude i'm up 60k i have played a total of 15 minutes of roulette okay

00:27:41.380 you're smart just in and out yeah exactly that is the way to do it yeah it really is you get in

00:27:45.980 you get up three different three different sessions each one's only five minutes exactly

00:27:49.400 couple numbers once you go up go up like if you think in your head because i think the human brain

00:27:54.360 we like always want to do more in our lives in general right so the gambling is the same thing

00:28:00.220 it's like okay we got here now we can get here you know like it's always like that that's why

00:28:04.020 the casino has has us on just the psychology of how we think right so you don't gamble that much

00:28:09.440 anymore i don't gamble at all i don't really that's not entirely true mr okay all right in

00:28:15.260 the casino i don't really get i play poker i definitely like we'll get in your poker story

00:28:22.000 is pretty cool with i read in dan's book oh okay oh right right right yeah yeah i mean that's how

00:28:27.380 i met dan that was when i was reading his book so i had him we had him on the podcast and his

00:28:32.600 views were like super different than mine like i was like wow we're not even looking at life the

00:28:37.220 same way yeah yeah and so we got in like this little debate and then we started talking on dms

00:28:40.780 and i was like fuck it i'm gonna read his book so he sent it to me and bro i read the whole book 0.99

00:28:44.600 from cover to cover it was such an amazing book but your your parts in it was like fucking i want 0.99

00:28:49.980 to see that in movies and right i know he's gonna kill me because i didn't read it and he's like 0.93

00:28:54.640 literally one of my best friends i got i i'm gonna read it i'm gonna read it after especially after

00:28:59.880 you talked about i'm blanking how did you want me in the book uh uh we poker friends oh i use i was

00:29:06.400 a dgen poker player in the 2000s yeah like i would play every time i would i would dj after i dj at

00:29:13.360 2 a.m like finish i would be like be at commerce casino i'll be in some private poker room i would

00:29:19.640 be somewhere and then when i played in vegas i'd find myself in a poker room and you know djens

00:29:24.700 find djens and he was a dj too so like damn dj i'm using that from now on we're talking to my

00:29:31.320 girlfriend like that let's go dj podcast is bro how do you think we found each other a bunch of 0.96

00:29:36.740 dj it's all hanging out we're all dj i kept hearing dj from here i was like he's a dj 0.81

00:29:42.460 it's like when did dan start dj we're just we're just a bunch of like just nipples you know what

00:29:48.220 If Bilzerian sort of DJing, that would be pretty epic.

00:29:53.020 But you know what Bilzerian would be DJing? 1.00

00:29:55.960 What? 0.98

00:29:56.740 All country music.

00:29:57.880 Yeah.

00:29:58.560 Like literally all.

00:29:59.660 I learned about country through him. 0.99

00:30:01.560 Every time I'm with him, he's just fucking blasting country. 0.96

00:30:04.600 You think country might be next up? 0.99

00:30:06.980 I think it is.

00:30:07.740 I've been saying that.

00:30:08.380 Because we've seen.

00:30:09.480 So, and you tell me your thoughts on this.

00:30:11.460 Because maybe, what, five, ten years ago, house music was the biggest thing in the world.

00:30:16.900 biggest thing in the world it was the only thing anyone cared about now once again it's hip-hop

00:30:22.920 and hip-hop and rap music leads the culture completely who knows how long that lasts for

00:30:28.120 right but what's next country is regional though yeah country is very american it's it's hard to

00:30:35.180 translate that to you know finland or to australia to like china like it's just harder i think the

00:30:43.160 the thing is with electronic music is it like you just like you said you guys were saying this there

00:30:47.520 is no language it's like a it's the it's like the it's like a tempo like a feeling rhythm yeah

00:30:54.480 exactly it's a it's a melody it's like more lyrics you're right yeah it's like and it's also very

00:30:59.600 cultural when i listen to country like so whenever i listen to something i don't understand you know

00:31:05.560 when i was younger the first thing i'd be like i don't like it i don't understand i don't like it

00:31:08.720 That's like the first thing I think all kids say, but like now I'm like, I'm a producer. 0.96

00:31:13.600 I want to hear different shit. 0.98

00:31:15.060 So I look at country the same way. 0.99

00:31:16.480 I'm sitting in the boat with Dan and all his friends are singing along to country and there's,

00:31:22.340 you know, like, okay, I hear about tractors.

00:31:23.960 I hear about like drinking and like, like broken hearts and like, like, you know, yeah.

00:31:29.720 And like, yeah.

00:31:30.560 Cowboy boots and denim.

00:31:31.780 And I'm like, wow, it's so cultural and it's so important.

00:31:35.140 like to talk about

00:31:36.560 like

00:31:36.840 dirt roads

00:31:37.340 like farming

00:31:38.760 and like

00:31:39.500 you know like

00:31:40.420 I mean whatever it is

00:31:41.400 it's like

00:31:41.740 it's just chores

00:31:42.420 it's a bunch of chores

00:31:43.240 it's like

00:31:45.040 we're gonna sing about

00:31:45.720 what we're gonna do this week

00:31:46.500 clearing brush

00:31:47.420 but like yo

00:31:48.260 I started singing about it too

00:31:50.300 I was singing about like

00:31:51.920 I forgot what I was singing about

00:31:52.840 I was like

00:31:53.120 about like

00:31:53.880 riding a tractor

00:31:54.820 I was like yo

00:31:55.320 would you do it with an accent?

00:31:57.220 I think I was

00:31:58.060 I mean

00:31:58.360 you don't ever know

00:31:59.160 like everyone else

00:32:00.760 doing it you know

00:32:01.440 she thinks my tractor's sexy

00:32:03.440 is an actual song country music for me because i grew up in ohio and a large portion of ohio

00:32:10.640 loves country music and i do too i have my bands that i really like but they do an amazing uh

00:32:15.480 country artists do an amazing job of like really appreciating the simple things in life like the

00:32:22.120 things that really matter and they they put a nice melody behind it it's cozy bro it's like 0.91

00:32:27.100 i don't know it's they they they appreciate a lot of shit that maybe the east and west coast 0.97

00:32:33.300 folks don't like californians you know i don't know if they're super pumped to sit around a fire 0.99

00:32:38.300 and drive a pickup truck down a dirt road and pop a beer with your friends maybe it's their views

00:32:43.360 they're very slow and it's and it's really accessible like it's like anybody in that area

00:32:49.260 rural america whatever you want to call it they can access those emotions because they have a

00:32:53.440 pickup truck they have yeah exactly they have grass they can cut you know what i'm saying like

00:32:57.360 They have all those

00:32:58.560 Don't you love it

00:32:59.240 When lyrics really tend to you

00:33:00.860 Go

00:33:02.140 Go cut the grass

00:33:03.360 Yes dad

00:33:04.120 No but

00:33:08.760 Luke Holmes

00:33:09.600 Is the only artist

00:33:10.480 That I

00:33:10.760 Did I even say his name right

00:33:11.680 Yeah I 1.00

00:33:12.640 Fuck dude 1.00

00:33:13.340 I play his shit 1.00

00:33:14.240 And I'm like locked in 1.00

00:33:15.080 But it's hard

00:33:15.720 To move from country

00:33:17.000 To something else

00:33:17.900 It's hard to go from like

00:33:19.560 Family

00:33:20.860 Like

00:33:21.580 Way of living

00:33:22.800 And then it's like 1.00

00:33:23.300 Bad bitches 1.00

00:33:23.980 It's like your brain 1.00

00:33:25.340 Goes like fuck 1.00

00:33:26.040 That's actually good 1.00

00:33:27.000 that's actually a great transition for what i was going to ask so how do you go from

00:33:30.320 like e-town concrete to edm like how did you make that swap from screamo over to to dance like what

00:33:38.760 what did that look like the certain electronic before we get there yeah i i do i can announce

00:33:44.360 this here i am doing a country collaboration oh with oliver tree i love all of us yes

00:33:51.000 We love that guy.

00:33:53.560 We love Oliver.

00:33:54.800 Who are you doing a collab with?

00:33:56.120 Cain Brown.

00:33:56.940 No way.

00:33:57.980 We love Cain. 0.99

00:34:00.300 And it's got a fucking craziest harmonica solo. 1.00

00:34:04.440 Sick. 1.00

00:34:05.140 And the drop is fire. 1.00

00:34:07.460 Sick. 1.00

00:34:07.720 I can imagine some crazy country sort of swinging dance to this shit. 1.00

00:34:12.700 Cool, dude. 1.00

00:34:13.240 Cain is crushing it.

00:34:14.900 Yeah, Cain, he's been a good friend.

00:34:17.700 We'll always drop in the zone.

00:34:19.360 Cool.

00:34:19.800 Cool, cool, cool.

00:34:20.240 Yeah, he loves Warzone.

00:34:21.760 He looks pretty good, too.

00:34:23.520 But yeah, so I just want to announce that here

00:34:25.680 because I haven't announced that anywhere else.

00:34:27.300 We got Alpha.

00:34:28.000 We got some Alpha.

00:34:28.580 We got the Alpha.

00:34:29.120 Yeah, so when I was in bands,

00:34:32.480 that was a different time of my life.

00:34:34.320 I feel like there's so many eras to my musical history.

00:34:39.420 So I was in bands up until college,

00:34:41.700 and when I moved to L.A.,

00:34:43.460 I had to mentally make the transition

00:34:45.480 of trying to actually make money.

00:34:47.100 so that's when i pivoted away from being in a band and supporting bands and i really focused

00:34:53.520 on a record label and in order to do the record label and build culture in la i threw parties

00:34:58.960 so we threw dimack parties where bands would dj and i would open and i was literally opening

00:35:06.240 the small bar and clubs you know like learning how to dj on the spot like literally like i would go

00:35:14.320 there two hours before and like drop like you know play some of the vinyl i have back here

00:35:18.320 and learn how to beat match and curate songs and you know and then as like people are trickling

00:35:24.400 they can hear me like struggling while i was a djing you know but i was really the party promoter

00:35:28.680 i was like throwing the parties dude you have no problem taking the leap just like just like

00:35:32.300 hearing this now probably part of the reason you're so successful is uh it doesn't really

00:35:35.900 sound like you're afraid to fail yeah i was feeling but thing is i was failing in the public

00:35:40.000 like, like constantly, like I was just, I was like, you know, I don't think I was a very good

00:35:44.740 singer. I don't think I was a very good musician and I was playing in front of all these people

00:35:49.200 and it definitely wasn't a good DJ, especially in the beginning. I mean, now I, maybe I'm all

00:35:53.980 right, but do it a long enough. I just better be fucking decent. But in the beginning I was 0.98

00:35:59.060 total garbage, but I, um, but it was, it wasn't about me. That's the most important thing is 0.97

00:36:04.860 about like the the place so as long as i brought in like a band everyone to see dj and do it

00:36:12.600 consistently and then it grew into the culture it really that's what's so great about la is that la

00:36:18.180 is a hub of music so as we're building our little scene in these little rooms like holding in the

00:36:23.920 beginning like 50 people we upgraded to a club space that held like 400 that's when like connie

00:36:30.780 would roll through or lady gaga's first show in la ever was at my party or like skrillex would

00:36:36.920 would be there every single every single night or like the the rise of elm fao during the early

00:36:42.140 2000s and like black eyed peas when they're reigning supreme like i was lucky to even do

00:36:47.480 a song with will i am actually that's an interesting story because my very first single

00:36:51.700 was with will i am and he was always coming to my party and my like my party was the hottest thing

00:36:58.080 for our little cultural little subset world like we are like underground culture and there's like

00:37:03.080 the brent bull house like you know all the celebrities go to those parties in la

00:37:06.840 but the dim back parties were like we're like the this undercurrent of music kid cuddy was

00:37:12.560 was always performing mia's first show like those kinds of artists and um william was always there

00:37:18.920 because you had to be at these parties because you couldn't like there's no social media so you 0.94

00:37:24.180 had to be at the club to hear what the fuck's going on in the undercurrent right and will is 0.96

00:37:29.560 always there will am's always there so i was like hey will can we do a record together and uh he he 0.97

00:37:35.280 had no idea i've never done a record with anyone but he just knew i was the guy throwing like the 0.72

00:37:40.000 fucking sickest parties yeah bringing all this this talent in and i went in the studio with them 0.73

00:37:44.860 and i played him this beat that was like it was you know i mean it's pretty good actually um but 0.99

00:37:49.780 it was like you know pretty rudimentary and he fucking loved it and he was like singing i'm in 0.80

00:37:54.540 the house like in in the in the control room on his blackberry wow yeah and like and i got a mic 0.90

00:38:02.500 out i'm like trying to record him on the spot because i'm like if he knows this is not my very

00:38:06.860 if he knows this is my first song he's definitely not gonna do the record with me so somehow i was

00:38:12.160 able to finesse that like this record to come out and and it like did its thing and and then i told

00:38:18.580 later like yo i just want you to know that was my first record he's like no after and he's been my

00:38:24.260 friend since and every every year if i'm doing an album he's like always supporting and he's always

00:38:29.300 like you know doing a record with me did that did that party also birth the beginning of uh you and

00:38:35.200 cadi's relationship because obviously pursuit of happiness was one of the yes craziest you know

00:38:40.740 things ever is that would you say that's your biggest that's my biggest remix for sure definitely

00:38:46.360 one of my biggest tracks right that i produced yeah that the world knows for sure it's like my

00:38:52.160 closing song to this day yeah it's kind of like the goal for any producer to make a record that's

00:38:56.200 timeless you know to 2022 i made the thing in 2020 2009 and it's still like damn it still

00:39:03.080 bangs and people fucking go goes nuts go absolutely crazy yeah but we did a we did a tour together 0.85

00:39:08.420 across the u.s it was a dimmack foals gold tour a track another dj has his label he signed kid 0.97

00:39:14.260 Cuddy day and night and he's he brought him out on this tour as is like the new artist and it was

00:39:20.620 Cuddy's first tour so we toured across the U.S. together and we became really close friends on

00:39:25.420 that tour and um and then he's like hey my next single is uh it's called Pursuit of Happiness

00:39:31.100 with uh Rattata and he's like will you remix it and we were already like really close and um I was

00:39:38.780 like of course you know I like pretty much did it for free it was like very little money I just

00:39:42.640 i just did it and then um and then you know whenever you come to la he was always at my

00:39:46.940 parties he's i remember one party um we dropped the remix it just came out and he was singing

00:39:53.920 literally the room is so small i swear to god it's like it's like this room might be bigger

00:39:57.920 it was it's that small so we have a dj booth on the floor and there's a bunch of people here so

00:40:03.440 maybe like 60 people and we i dropped the remix for the first time and he's like in his like when

00:40:10.300 he gets in this like zone he's such an artist he's like so magical he doesn't care about anything

00:40:15.300 and uh i dropped the remix and he's like singing on the on the track and he just starts giving away

00:40:20.980 his jewelry like right there he's just like he's just like in this like santa claus spirit love

00:40:26.760 like you know he's in this moment he just wants to like share the this feeling and he's just like

00:40:32.800 handing his jewelry out to like people in the crowd they're like and the crowd is like me to

00:40:38.000 you you know so he's just like giving it to like me giving it to you logan like you're right here

00:40:42.560 it's just only like a little pane of glass that's like separating us you know and and people were 0.93

00:40:47.740 just getting like whatever he's giving it was like i'm like like look oh my god what the fuck's

00:40:52.920 going on you know it's just it's actually like it inspired me so much that it's not about like

00:41:00.120 it's about like following the feeling you know he followed like this this magical feeling of

00:41:06.120 i was dropping this thing for the first time we worked on this thing together yeah i'd made like

00:41:10.780 literally 60 versions of pursuit of happiness did you know did you know it was as good as it ended

00:41:16.620 up being because obviously playing any unreleased track live for the first time is probably

00:41:21.060 horrifying but did you get was there a reaction in that room when you played at that time or even

00:41:25.660 from cuddy obviously you made him give away his things which was notable but but did you did you

00:41:31.460 know that the song was gonna you know get over half a billion streams plus no absolutely not

00:41:36.520 actually it it it was really great to do a record with him at that time because he was on the come

00:41:42.920 up but it it didn't really blow up it didn't blow up until after project x yeah and that was like

00:41:49.920 three years after yeah oh so it like was cool it was definitely cool like you know i definitely

00:41:56.160 played it out and i was like oh man this is this is the moment you know like like you can't it's

00:42:02.540 undeniable when you hear that you just like you have to stop you have to stop every conversation

00:42:06.760 you have to like get into it so i it did its job there so it's an effective moment for the live

00:42:13.240 but i have effective effective records that are live that don't don't go because yeah don't don't

00:42:19.360 become popularized i have a lot of those so that one for some reason like after project x came out

00:42:26.160 it gave it like this new lease of life it like gave it a new set of legs it gave it a visual

00:42:30.880 it gave us visual yeah yeah so you were able to attach like this is what you're supposed to be

00:42:36.480 doing when this song is exactly exactly and yeah it really was like the pinnacle of that like

00:42:41.200 this is the ultimate party and then they dropped it yeah it was like a music video inside of the

00:42:47.060 movie you know so yeah that was a big moment for that when you when you look back to those parties

00:42:52.360 you look back to cudi and lady gaga and all that stuff being in that in that you know super

00:42:56.620 cultural like scene that you had curated the entire environment the entire experience 0.58

00:43:02.040 how does that compare to being at fucking tomorrow land or like you know or at like uh 0.71

00:43:09.300 ultra and playing for hunt like which one how do those compare and which one do you hold more 0.85

00:43:15.080 dearly to your heart i mean they're both so different yeah and they're both totally meaningful

00:43:21.640 you know like those parties at that early stage there's the intimacy is like undeniable you know

00:43:30.480 like when lady gaga performed she's she performed on like a table with drinks there's no stage

00:43:37.240 like who gets to see that she's like crowd surfing and like you know she's not worried about like

00:43:42.720 you know like she's like still an upcoming star you know it's like though like those kinds of

00:43:48.160 moments you'll you just can't experience ever again i i remember even like backtracking when

00:43:54.240 i was putting on shows in um santa barbara when i was in college i had jimmy world who was like

00:44:00.680 you know everyone knows who jimmy world is they were playing in my kitchen they played in my

00:44:05.660 kitchen in front of like 12 people maybe 12 people you know they they came and they slept on the

00:44:11.340 couch because that's just what bands do so it's just like to be part of those moments when you

00:44:17.200 see something happening and you're part of that experience it's so special uh it's just a complete

00:44:23.860 different feeling than you know then then obviously but playing tomorrowland is like

00:44:28.920 that's like the goal it's like you know end game it's like yeah it's end game it's like

00:44:34.160 but also you have to perform exceptional you have to you have to break through because you know

00:44:42.200 there's hundreds and hundreds of djs there well you well you do a great job of that i mean you

00:44:46.760 have of the many things uh the the raft right you throw a raft into the crowd and that's i think i

00:44:54.280 saw dan lazarian doing the raft for the first time yeah and the crowd the cake the can we talk about

00:44:59.460 this for a sec because i was i was going there too with the cutty giving out the jewelry and

00:45:03.080 somehow you transitioned that into throwing cakes at fans and we watched video a video

00:45:08.580 compilation of it on the way over here in the car and uh it it looked like it started i want

00:45:14.520 to hear about how it started but it seemed like it started with you kind of lobbing them and when 0.98

00:45:17.740 i see you do it now you are fucking launching sheet cakes at people yeah you a sniper dude 0.96

00:45:23.500 dude the distance you're covering on some of these throws you're accurate and you're left-handed do 0.99

00:45:29.040 you practice this yeah how did it start i have a cake throwing target practice room

00:45:33.480 i didn't show it to you that on the way here i go there's no way it's too good he's getting this

00:45:38.740 on first tries i could just picture you at home like where's the cakes they're banking sir

00:45:42.820 she threw all the other ones they're like reloading no i don't have but i mean i should

00:45:48.340 but um yeah i mean i've caked let's see let's see i started in 2011 and i've never broke below 200

00:45:57.620 shows and i like i've broken over 300 shows i think for three years so and i was doing 10

00:46:04.180 cakes a show so you could do the numbers like i definitely caked over 20 how you even have to

00:46:09.220 I have to perform

00:46:10.040 That's so much cake

00:46:11.500 Did you ever pull it?

00:46:12.080 Well it's only one song

00:46:13.600 So I made a song

00:46:15.020 Like 2013

00:46:15.700 I made a song called Cake Face

00:46:16.880 Okay

00:46:17.260 Because before I would just like

00:46:18.760 Cake during Pursuit of Happiness

00:46:19.800 Or something

00:46:20.220 Yeah yeah

00:46:20.540 And then when I

00:46:22.260 When I made this song

00:46:23.500 That's when I was like

00:46:24.540 Okay 10 cakes a show

00:46:25.900 And during that song

00:46:27.440 I made it really long

00:46:28.220 It's like 4 minutes or something

00:46:29.760 Okay okay

00:46:30.280 So like you know

00:46:31.100 You could just go for it

00:46:32.140 Yeah so then that's when I'm caking

00:46:33.760 Yeah

00:46:34.140 So I can't cake during the whole show

00:46:35.380 I also cake at the very very end

00:46:37.200 So I save it like

00:46:38.680 just like when you eat cake you eat cake it for dessert you you have the cake for the very end

00:46:43.920 of my show yeah because it gets everywhere you know and i want i don't want it like tracking

00:46:49.240 all over the place i just want it to be the very finale big finale of the show you ever seen the uh

00:46:53.140 the cake in real life oh yeah oh yeah i was in i was in a visa once yeah yeah logan yeah i think 0.85

00:47:00.420 logan you launched the cake oh yeah we were fucking people up steve aoki goes you want to 0.91

00:47:05.060 gig someone i'm like i'm gonna kill someone i've seen you do it dude dude by the way you know that 0.96

00:47:12.380 show in abiza uh i had fully pulled my hamstring that's why my leg was taped up my whole leg was 0.96

00:47:19.620 purple on the back side like you oh yeah i think you you're like talking about that i remember that

00:47:24.480 because i was i was in so much pain but man that universal music language thing we spoke about i

00:47:30.980 I don't know what it was, but I forgot I was hurt.

00:47:33.040 Yeah, because you were staged at me.

00:47:36.000 Remember, I turned back, you were behind me at one point,

00:47:38.580 and then all of a sudden, I turned around,

00:47:39.580 and you're just flying in the air, dude.

00:47:42.700 Like four times.

00:47:44.660 Jake, too.

00:47:45.320 Both of us.

00:47:45.760 Yeah, you guys are both like the Paul brothers

00:47:47.720 are just out in the crowd.

00:47:49.360 Just imagine, bro, that people that don't really know you

00:47:51.800 or hear this podcast get to know who you are, 1.00

00:47:54.160 just seeing you do some shit. 0.99

00:47:55.420 Yeah, flying, like literally. 0.99

00:47:57.840 I don't even know how you got that hype.

00:48:00.080 because it's like you're on with two broken eyes i have no i have no idea it must have been the

00:48:04.840 well anyway no and it wasn't that night what was any night i've never done any type of drug i saw

00:48:13.080 you do it at shrine i think in the east coast i'm from i'm from the east coast and a marquee

00:48:17.880 obviously is a place that you're at all the time but it's it's how what kind of cake what's the

00:48:23.320 optimal cake okay for you to throw we actually this is this is actually really important you

00:48:29.220 You know, like in the beginning, I was actually getting the cakes at the supermarket in the

00:48:35.040 very beginning because it was just so, and I was also traveling alone, you know, so it

00:48:39.620 was different.

00:48:39.960 I had to do everything myself.

00:48:40.960 I love this question, I want to say, and I love the detail that you're like, yeah.

00:48:45.180 And you're excited.

00:48:46.960 He's excited about it.

00:48:48.540 Okay, so we have a cake writer.

00:48:51.080 So every artist has like the technical writer.

00:48:53.960 Okay, this is the DJ set that we want.

00:48:56.100 These are speakers that we want.

00:48:57.280 uh this is how the stage should look like and then you have like the food writer like this is

00:49:02.180 the stuff we want in the back with this alcohol or these drinks and then but for steve aoki i got

00:49:07.260 my own cake writer and it's six pages long and the promoter it's promoter's responsibility to

00:49:13.900 make sure they adhere to the writer because um i'm launching these cakes as you know into people's

00:49:19.200 faces so um no pun intended the cake doesn't have much cake it's like just like frosting and like

00:49:26.580 just colors and just gets everywhere it's explosive on impact like these are special

00:49:33.660 cakes is that in the rider yeah yeah it's like must be explosive cake or will not do show

00:49:39.880 do you have any one story from caking that that like stands out to the most like is there one

00:49:49.060 cake throw did you fall off the stage like is there anything you really remember was somebody

00:49:53.280 allergic to cake and they're like oh man they just started melting um i think what one time

00:50:03.280 this is that shrine in la um i'm just trying to think of like times i got caked oh yeah because

00:50:11.600 that happened so like one time like like vin diesel came out and it was a big deal because

00:50:16.600 you know it's vin diesel he never like he just barely makes a public appearance i've never seen

00:50:20.880 him out yeah right so somehow i got him out like i got him out he came to the show i was like so

00:50:26.260 surprised he came and i'm like hey vin you want to cake someone you know like so then i brought i

00:50:32.280 gave him the cake and i thought he was gonna cake the crowd and he just turns around and just cakes

00:50:35.700 cakes me real like all over so that was kind of like a moment i won't forget you got caked by vin

00:50:41.220 diesel yeah yeah i remember that that's pretty epic i got the photos to document that his face

00:50:46.340 is like full on like like use that scene in the new fast 10 yeah yeah we should we should we should

00:50:54.000 get into the topic at hand you said that today's a big day for you yes yeah yeah yeah tell us why

00:51:00.180 okay so the aoki verse launched so what is aoki versus um it's my nft community membership sick

00:51:09.320 and i think a lot of people might look at like a like a fan club kind of situation because you

00:51:15.120 have all these perks of like getting to come to my shows and you understand how that works like

00:51:20.320 the access that that people can have to you you've opened that the door up right but it's far greater

00:51:27.660 than that it's it's it's access to all my network you know in in the nft in the metaverse space and

00:51:35.600 in in the irl so um you know from nft allow lists and free mints um to uh you know we're dropping a

00:51:45.840 free clone x you know to the membership we're actually dropping a few of them um and uh i mean

00:51:52.000 it's a variety of things like it just opens it up the utility of the nft i think is one of the

00:51:56.560 coolest things about it and as a fellow creator and a person also has a thing coming up soon it's

00:52:03.360 really cool to see you kind of expanding what nft is understood to be right now you know everyone

00:52:10.580 thinks there are these fucking like little images yeah yeah cartoons or whatever which is true yeah

00:52:15.140 but it's a sliver of what they're capable of yeah and and even just walking around your house one 0.72

00:52:19.340 of the things you probably saw me get most excited about was um your dj booth with the green screen

00:52:25.420 behind you for your live shows that you can essentially be performing wherever in the world

00:52:31.300 in whatever metaverse like i i would love on a friday night um especially man saying like god

00:52:37.460 forbid another pandemic some sort of global disaster right right you just throw on your vr

00:52:41.000 headset and i get to watch steve aoki with my friends who are in the metaverse and their avatars

00:52:45.120 that are next to me and we're just playing and so the aoki verse launched you announced it today

00:52:50.380 yeah so the public sale just happened okay we we we did like a few days ago we had

00:52:55.840 allow lists for nft holders of various communities that supported us like doodles and uh onifors

00:53:03.800 janksy squad a bunch of different communities and now it's public and and what we're launching is

00:53:09.760 once you get in you buy these credits that act that that will burn into a passport and the

00:53:16.940 passport is what's exciting so it's like a new dev that grows with you because you can open up

00:53:22.040 the passport and you have like stamps of like oh i was at 15 aoki shows and those are all stamped

00:53:26.960 in the passport and they can micro level up in into your tiers and there's different levels of

00:53:33.160 of what you can get in your membership how do you track who's at your shows do you show a qr code at

00:53:38.280 one point on your show and you can scan it and they like is it's you we're going to token gate

00:53:42.280 some of these shows okay so so like that way you go through what's your in there then you get your

00:53:46.960 you know it's like the way i look at it it's like i collected all my ticket stubs of all my favorite

00:53:52.560 shows i went to when i was a kid yeah flyers like now it's like you can have them on chain

00:53:57.800 and now it's like you know like all these shows that i'm talking about they're legendary like

00:54:01.700 when lady gaga performed how cool it'd be to have that like i was there and it's on chain it's

00:54:06.900 forever here and i was there like this is my you know participation it's not only that but like

00:54:11.680 being able to document all that have it on chain and have it as like you know you can level up

00:54:18.420 yeah until these higher levels where you get different perks different rewards different

00:54:22.740 access free mints whatnot what was the size of the mint uh so we did 25 000 credits okay um and

00:54:30.960 there's uh and then you like you know obviously there's like uh we we level them up by four so

00:54:35.560 first level is one one credit then it's the second level is four credits the the third level is 16

00:54:42.260 the the next level is 64 and it goes up cool and you have obviously like the the top tier is like

00:54:48.160 you got to come to my house we're going to make a record and we we can actually make a record

00:54:52.040 together and put it out to the world you know why you know why it works is because you're

00:54:55.600 you're an investor collector and nft strategist yourself like you care you know you're in the

00:55:02.920 space you're collecting i seen a picture of your doodle when i walked in yeah um and a mutinate

00:55:07.000 yeah and a mutinate and i've seen a thing you you said recently is that you've made more money off

00:55:12.500 nfts than you have in your past six albums yes which is fascinating yeah it's uh and it's true

00:55:18.520 so like in that that we haven't even touched touched about uh touched uh nft music like

00:55:24.980 music in nfts yeah and like what that will mean for artists and also fans having having actual

00:55:32.300 conversation communication with with artists you know having an influence potential influence on

00:55:38.560 the music or whatever offering that the artist can do um it's going to be a game changer and

00:55:43.920 it's going to upend the whole system of how things work right now um it's not going to take away

00:55:49.640 spotify it's not going to take away record labels and management it's not going to take away these

00:55:54.140 things because they're all big parts of this piece but just like how anything has changed

00:55:59.500 if you don't you can't stop what's going to happen so you might as well like move with it

00:56:05.800 right it's inevitable yeah yeah so you can't be a label i'm just gonna hoard everything and

00:56:09.880 control everything you have to be like i have to join them and help amplify the relationships that

00:56:17.020 artists have with their fans back to community i mean exactly he said here democratization yeah

00:56:23.040 a hundred percent and and and that's all it is and he's thriving that in that way and i think when

00:56:27.900 more musicians catch on that this is the inevitable future and your fans can participate and live and

00:56:36.580 breathe this art with you even like i'll go as far as to say yeah bro like royalty shares on

00:56:42.380 for sure and songs for some artists would be crazy yeah like right it's such a cool way to to to be

00:56:49.860 able to pivot adapt and funding all that stuff it makes me happy man i i get i get so happy when

00:56:55.280 people ask me uh artists ask me questions about nfts and they're curious and even if they don't

00:56:59.400 take that step right away um and i i i often am meeting with people and just planting seeds in

00:57:05.000 their head right because i want to see this space evolve and we're so close i i feel like what we're

00:57:09.680 doing with this membership is something that hopefully other artists can take and use as

00:57:16.000 inspiration because the dev is there and like you know as we're growing i mean like luckily we work

00:57:21.320 with to me the best dev dev out there manifold there they did the pox pages to poets of course

00:57:27.460 mad dog jones they did like they've done so much you know out of the box dev in nfts and this is

00:57:34.240 definitely something very unique because it adds so much more than just a membership there's so

00:57:37.940 much token gating into live shows into uh other nft projects connecting the interoperable you

00:57:45.180 know communities all together and so much like there's so many cool things that we're going to

00:57:49.680 do exclusively you know whether it's like merchandise with different different nft projects

00:57:54.760 when i saw your studio which was my personal favorite room in the house thus far that i've

00:57:59.340 seen uh i mentioned to you i was like you should build this in the metaverse and and have this be

00:58:04.280 like a room or a hub you know and you mentioned something about sandbox do you plan on uh

00:58:09.080 integrating and doing an exact replica build out of like some of these real life rooms in your house

00:58:12.960 in web 3 this whole house is already like yeah we've we've been working on with sandbox since

00:58:18.840 uh you know for like probably four or five months sick actually longer maybe six months

00:58:23.480 on developing this house it's i already saw like a rendition this morning and it looks it's like

00:58:28.560 this house on acid steroids it's just it's like it's this house magnified of what you could do

00:58:36.940 in in in a sandbox world so so sick all of the above you know how much land do you have there

00:58:43.180 I got a ton of land

00:58:45.400 How much you got

00:58:47.180 How much land do we have

00:58:49.000 What

00:58:50.720 Say it out loud

00:58:51.560 Oh you got a 4x4 0.97

00:58:54.800 4x4

00:58:55.360 Where is it by

00:58:58.580 No see I thought you said

00:59:02.820 24x24

00:59:04.100 That's a massive area

00:59:06.540 It's a lot of land and just one of those

00:59:08.840 Is Aoki's Playhouse

00:59:10.140 So we're developing all these other

00:59:12.820 areas inside Sandbox

00:59:15.080 and it's right next to Snoop's

00:59:17.220 so we have Snoop's massive spot

00:59:18.920 and you have like the Aoki's

00:59:20.440 you're doing something there?

00:59:23.720 I think we're going to do something with Sandbox

00:59:25.280 we are

00:59:26.160 we're like finishing up a deal

00:59:29.120 ironically

00:59:30.880 they were the people that bought 0.98

00:59:32.900 my world of women

00:59:34.720 the night goddess

00:59:36.780 for $735,000

00:59:39.980 yeah I saw that

00:59:41.020 that's huge

00:59:41.620 bro crazy yeah but i met the guy who like actually made the purchase at um the the bieber thing

00:59:48.520 at this last word oh yeah yeah that's right yeah i met him at super bowl weekend yeah okay all right

00:59:54.260 i was just chilling yeah i was hammered i climbed over a rail to say what's up yeah yeah you're like

01:00:00.340 he bought it i gotta say hi to him he was with shahidi and them because i don't know what the

01:00:03.780 hell they have they got going on because those guys are you know they did oh yeah yeah i saw i

01:00:09.000 I saw Shahidi at Super Bowl.

01:00:11.080 But, yeah, what they're doing is incredible.

01:00:13.840 I'm a big supporter of the Full Sam project for sure.

01:00:17.560 I went – I already bought like – I definitely – I just bought 15 more just recently.

01:00:22.900 I saw that.

01:00:23.700 You aped like crazy.

01:00:24.920 Yeah, I went – I mean, that's like with certain projects.

01:00:28.480 The one thing I learned is never buy one.

01:00:31.660 So for me, it's like if I'm going to invest, I need to buy more than one.

01:00:34.960 I already made that mistake with the CryptoPunk.

01:00:38.060 i bought a crypto punk for 50 eth and this is july of last year and then i put it up for for bid just

01:00:45.660 like 300 yeah and then it sold in 21 days now you're out which is great i mean i mean i mean

01:00:50.900 it's a million dollars you know so um i was like oh my god i didn't know you got no crypto punk

01:00:55.580 yeah so then i just bought two more so i so i like with all that profit i just went and bought

01:01:00.640 more nfts because i i'm such a believer in the space and i also believe that it's like for me

01:01:06.440 i don't really care so much about the flip i care about what it's going to mean when we really start

01:01:12.660 rolling out what web 3 is what the metaverse will look like what roblox 3.0 is yep all these things

01:01:19.080 i think that like there's so much application that's going to be used uh with nfts that we

01:01:24.920 haven't even begun to touch scratch service just even the new uh play to earn stuff popping up like 0.84

01:01:29.840 i don't know if you got into wolf game or yeah i got into that shit creeps yeah um what was your

01:01:34.680 what were your big because because i also have seen you on kind of the other side of some projects 0.98

01:01:41.040 as well like he kind of infamously got into oni on one whatever you want to call it i got in with

01:01:47.180 you i i bought one oni for 300 and like i don't know what the value is like dropped diminished

01:01:53.680 yeah a lot yeah yeah yeah i i got mine for like 630 and yeah it's dropped yeah but you know i i

01:02:00.700 think about like this like oni is like an og project to me so even though it's dropped still

01:02:07.700 believer that yeah i don't know why i don't i don't feel like it's a loss yeah like yes exactly

01:02:13.580 technically the project's volume has decreased but like i just don't care i i look at like i

01:02:21.160 don't know you have future projects like that are really popular like azuki's uh really popular

01:02:25.540 huge uh and and zipsy and all these projects that have like an anime kind of theme oni was like to

01:02:32.020 me the og anime and the coolest one i had the i got into the one of the guys with the cheeseburger

01:02:36.620 right dropped like 160k on it and i noticed that it was like i started to notice the floor was like

01:02:42.860 kind of slipping a little and i got a little worried and i got back out at what i got in for

01:02:46.660 and then a few days later it kind of fell out i just i just still don't think it's cooked man like

01:02:52.620 this this is the long game yeah and like who knows maybe the anime nfts are going to take a turn or

01:02:58.520 uh take a skyrocket well i mean there's like a lot of projects especially during that period of

01:03:04.160 time like world of women uh like dead fellas there's a lot of projects that that they're

01:03:09.280 they're rising now but it takes a while yeah some of these take time like my project i dropped 0.99

01:03:15.900 february of last year um dream catcher i mean that that the floor did drop after like everyone

01:03:23.180 bought because i actually it did really well it was like the the kind of surge i did 4.3 million

01:03:28.780 on that project on and it surged up and then it just dropped like all nfts dropped and it just

01:03:36.540 stayed at this very low floor for 10 months until we announced aoki verse once we like whispered

01:03:44.060 that aoki versus coming the floor rose like yep like a lot from like 0.2 to you know two weeks

01:03:51.660 it's all the roadmap at the end of the day yeah it's hitting the right you know parts of the

01:03:56.340 roadmap because i think that's just a natural cyclical motion of an nft project you get this

01:04:01.440 initial burst of energy when the project first releases and then of course it's going to go back

01:04:05.280 to some sort of most times it goes back to some sort of uh baseline until there's news that's why

01:04:11.240 for me whenever i invest and whenever i look into projects i always look at the founders

01:04:16.360 i think you know whatever you're doing i'm going to be in in on because i trust you i know logan

01:04:23.400 paul you're a visionary you think ahead you care about your community you've already had proof of

01:04:29.920 concept you've already built that with maverick you've already built that with everything you've

01:04:34.040 done so like since you've already done it like of course i'm going to follow whatever you do it

01:04:39.340 doesn't matter what you do it's the same way i look at other businesses i i invest in restaurants

01:04:43.880 with this guy he's just like hey we're gonna do this i'm like i'm in you don't even need to tell

01:04:47.600 me i agree it's actually a macro takeaway every business that i get into now the first of it

01:04:52.840 obviously has to make sense it's a business but the founder is is you're my partner now you're 1.00

01:04:57.280 the person i'm believing in you're the person i'm getting behind who are you what the fuck are you 0.97

01:05:00.840 made of yeah and sometimes i believe these people more than i believe myself and that's why i 0.99

01:05:04.520 continue to do what i do bro the ceo of this company who doesn't call himself a ceo he just

01:05:10.220 calls himself an owner because he wants to like make it all equal yeah he's a dog he's our secret 0.99

01:05:15.380 weapon you know like this guy's on his shit and he he inspires me every day to just continue 0.98

01:05:20.520 pushing and making this the biggest best thing ever which by the way i haven't tried this yet 0.97

01:05:24.980 he opened it he had it splashing into his mouth he was so excited and i said steve could you please

01:05:30.140 just wait and try it on the show so we can get your reaction so okay here we go my first my first

01:05:34.480 sip of prime i've been seeing it online everywhere i've been excited i saw that saw that um that

01:05:39.220 monkey stole your prime can't believe it i was like i need i need to try this prime now

01:05:43.480 it's a monkey like spurred a lot of attention that's why that's why they're called prime here

01:05:50.300 here we go here we go thumbs up wow you know grape is like one of my favorite flavors too

01:06:01.760 this is like it's good this is really good it's a good grape dude cold grape is my personal

01:06:05.820 favorite cold grape for those of you listening at home make it prime grape i know i'm a fan

01:06:09.840 thanks bro that's really good it's also really good really good very good for you that's the

01:06:14.500 secret as well like two grams of sugar in that 25 calories yeah i'm surprised by that me too

01:06:22.120 try that how you had to do the lab the lab all the scientists cooking up i believe some sort

01:06:28.480 of alchemy took place but i'm glad you like but yes the point is this believe and do research in

01:06:33.860 your founders yeah your founders it's always about the people not the business i always believe in

01:06:39.880 the people first like just like you're saying it's like um we talk about john shahidi full send

01:06:45.320 they have an incredible community and they do a lot for the community so i of course i i support

01:06:51.880 them takashi murakami clonex how i think i'm a murakami fanboy i know him personally as a friend

01:06:59.200 of mine i'm a collector so i went on clonex dude i missed that one and it was probably my biggest

01:07:07.000 miss because banks had told me uh this is locked guaranteed and the vials i think they minted at

01:07:13.440 three three eth something like that and i i didn't get any and god within a day of it going live i 0.86

01:07:19.940 was like i fucked up real bad what did you how many did you end up buying i don't know how many 0.95

01:07:24.240 do you have yeah that's not enough did you get anything did you get any of the crazy ones i got 0.98

01:07:29.960 one i spent like on on the mint i i got wait after the mint i bought one for 20 eth so it was a rare

01:07:38.400 i need to follow up on what that rare is the blindfolded dude my buddy got my buddy minted

01:07:45.020 the uh the split face the murakami the actual murakami so ended up selling it for uh i think

01:07:52.500 moved it for a hundred eth thinking that he had this massive come up at like what was that like

01:07:57.620 350 000 whatever it is right and the next day somebody had listed it for like 300 400 eath

01:08:02.900 wow that's insane that project you guys can see this art right here i don't know if you can see

01:08:08.840 yeah yeah yeah but like that's virgil oblo rest in peace murakami collaboration there's only two

01:08:15.200 of these flower powers this is to me ghost status and obviously murakami deraimo sick yeah so cool

01:08:22.380 man i think uh i think there's gonna be so many cool advancements in the space and uh it's awesome

01:08:28.560 to see you leading the helm thank you for real bro also i want to come to another show soon and

01:08:33.100 we got to do a collaboration too whenever you drop oh my god we should like aoki verse and

01:08:38.120 whatever your project's called i have i have uh i have some ideas i have some ideas yeah yeah

01:08:42.980 i'll tell you uh but we do have to go we have to uh catch absinthe tonight the show oh cool yeah

01:08:48.160 that's definitely one of the best shows on this that's what we're hearing all right cool i don't

01:08:51.260 know what it is yet no one can really tell me exactly what it is they're like it's a comedy

01:08:54.280 show but you got to get made fun of and don't sit in the first row that's what i told like that's

01:08:58.620 just all what mike told you no i i believe that it's super funny he said it just like that but

01:09:04.060 like super talented like the people like like the actual george got the hookup yeah oh yeah i've

01:09:10.140 already gone twice it's so it's incredible they invited me to go watch it and i just got into 0.98

01:09:14.640 stand-up so live performance to me now i see it differently yeah because i'm like fuck these 0.99

01:09:18.100 people have to practice this 0.99

01:09:19.360 and hope

01:09:19.760 and the craziest part is 0.99

01:09:21.480 this guy better not fuck up 0.99

01:09:22.740 for everybody else 1.00

01:09:23.720 that's doing this shit 0.99

01:09:24.620 and there's acrobatic stuff 0.99

01:09:26.300 there's all this stuff

01:09:27.580 so when I was watching

01:09:28.280 I was like

01:09:28.720 these are probably

01:09:29.580 the greatest performers

01:09:30.460 that we're like

01:09:31.820 gonna see

01:09:32.420 and they're just on Vegas

01:09:34.100 and nobody's really

01:09:34.880 paying attention to them

01:09:35.780 like the room is really small

01:09:37.500 it's intimate

01:09:38.000 it's like this

01:09:38.540 that's why I said

01:09:39.380 the front row 1.00

01:09:40.240 you get shit on you 1.00

01:09:41.380 people are 1.00

01:09:42.260 you see

01:09:42.700 do you see what I'm saying

01:09:43.600 I just like to go

01:09:44.300 look how he described it

01:09:46.780 wait till you see

01:09:47.280 the two roller skating

01:09:48.780 it's the brother and sister duo

01:09:50.500 that's the craziest 0.94

01:09:51.280 that is the craziest one

01:09:52.960 don't blow it 1.00

01:09:54.200 she's like hanging 1.00

01:09:56.980 upside down

01:09:59.220 and she's spinning her 0.99

01:10:00.980 and she's just like flying 0.73

01:10:02.820 you were blowing it

01:10:05.060 it's not like a spoiler alert

01:10:06.280 he painted it

01:10:07.880 what are you going to tell him

01:10:08.580 the color of her dress

01:10:09.680 Steve go ahead

01:10:11.020 tell him the color of her dress 1.00

01:10:12.020 I want that

01:10:14.240 I want to be like that

01:10:15.060 and like the roller skates

01:10:16.380 no matter how close to you

01:10:17.420 they might be like

01:10:18.080 like right in front of you

01:10:19.740 Steve I am never telling you

01:10:20.980 a secret a day of my life

01:10:22.320 Steve thanks for coming on

01:10:24.160 Impulsive bro

01:10:24.760 yeah man

01:10:25.380 thanks for having me

01:10:26.220 this was great

01:10:26.740 of course guys

01:10:27.340 go to his shows

01:10:28.120 buy his NFTs

01:10:29.240 follow him on Instagram

01:10:30.100 all the things

01:10:31.640 thank you for listening

01:10:32.460 to this episode of Impulsive

01:10:33.780 we'll see you next time

01:10:34.640 take it easy

01:10:35.140 peace

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