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00:50:27.460I don't think we can expose that here. Okay. Yeah. No, no, it is really, he actually told me in the elevator was super real. He was there too. Well, well, like, okay. So Charlie told me it's not real, which I don't know who could tell. Cause like, we actually have to ask Benny because Charlie is like, yeah, we're totally friends, dude.
00:50:57.460it's all good man who charlie and benny yeah they have a hilarious little thing on tiktok
00:51:03.980oh okay is it like almost as bad as him and oliver because him and oliver is dead serious0.99
00:51:07.980it's way worse no but theirs is dead like i have to oh you gotta separate them don't fuck they're0.99
00:51:12.940gonna fuck each other up especially with this whole slime prime situation going on it's so1.00
00:51:17.780i'll commit murder yeah yeah facts his his uh t his ceo is shaking yeah okay yeah none of that0.99
00:51:25.700can happen okay uh nfts we talked about it for a second you guys are about to do a festival
00:51:30.940oh yeah the after party after party yeah i have one of those do you go and get one yeah do i do
00:51:37.560i get to go to the i think so i don't if we're being frank like i don't know a ton about the
00:51:42.220company um i like the lineup i thought they're friends of ours that are doing it and uh you
00:51:47.220know it was it's an easy play coming to vegas um i hope it you know i've been getting texts from
00:51:52.660people being like is this fire fest and you're like it can't be fire because you're in vegas
00:51:57.280so like worst case scenario you just come on back to the strip and everything's okay i think it's
00:52:02.840gonna be sick i think it's gonna be sick yeah who else is on that bill again laroi's doing it
00:52:06.880a bunch of people are doing it they got a lot of like yeah they went for it i love the bob
00:52:12.540moses yeah yeah it should be good i mean i it's just one of those things where it's like i just
00:52:16.920want to come out there's like we're just artists on this you know what i mean like i think the
00:52:19.920artists always are like how could you do this to us and you're like i i barely got out of their
00:52:24.560life like we actually i remember we were booked they hired us for uh fire fest and our our agent
00:52:31.220was just like something seems fishy about this like the wire's not hitting the right way
00:52:35.460so we're like yeah let's not do that yeah thank god yeah we didn't even get into to closer i feel
00:52:43.140like i feel like we have to talk about it for a second i mean is that is that is that apex like
00:52:48.080well we don't want to call it apex but like what did it feel like to to for that whole thing to
00:52:52.960go down what did that feel like really really bizarre we have just the weirdest career every
00:52:57.320song is like almost never happened um closer um i wrote it was the first song that i really like
00:53:06.620wrote like all the lyrics to um in the past you know we work with writers or we were just producing
00:53:13.180the the records and then we work with someone like emily warren who we work with all the time
00:53:16.760one of our best friends um and they would do lyrics and this is the first time i was like you
00:53:20.240know what i'm just gonna try it so i wrote this song and i kind of like wrote the words down
00:53:24.320earlier on the on waiting to take off on some plane and the basis of it and then um i i made
00:53:29.800the beat with uh do you know lewis the child of course yeah so freddy they're amazingly talented
00:53:35.280and just great to make awesome music and they're on tour with us and me and freddy just got pretty
00:53:40.180drunk after one show and we made the beat to closer and i just had this feeling about it
00:53:45.740sean was there too right no the next morning the next day uh sean frank shout out to sean
00:53:50.740was like yo what are you working on and i showed him the song and we like wrote you know finished
00:53:55.200up the song with the lyrics together and then sean was like i was like who's gonna sing this
00:54:00.940and then he's like why don't you just sing it like you just you know you just sing it just the
00:54:04.460way that you just like talked it out and wrote it and i was like i've never sang on anything ever
00:54:08.420before and he's like um let me show you how autotune works and i was like okay and melodyne
00:54:15.460and you know a lot of that song too is me just talking to you like in this voice yeah it's not
00:54:19.820like it really that singing um and you know we put it together and still with the intention of
00:54:25.180having someone else be featured on it or sing my part um and then we just kept playing it for our
00:54:30.700friends and we're like this is so this is good like and this is such an interesting like the
00:54:35.020lyrics are so weird and like like definitely nothing that was happening in dance music
00:54:38.940um they felt like kind of indie and like really like small like about small details and like very
00:54:44.140you know american americana feeling um and uh we eventually like i got the confidence to just
00:54:52.400leave myself on the song um and then at that time don't let me down was like firing and so
00:54:58.060you know we were getting you know instead of like begging people the ring features people
00:55:01.580were more open to doing song with songs with us and uh we're like we're back to begging again
00:55:06.820yeah now we're back yeah and uh and we and camilla had just left fifth harmony and wanted
00:55:17.860to do a record and so we brought the record to her and she she liked it and uh it was going to
00:55:23.380be the the feature on closer yeah she was breaking off this is like her gonna be her first you know
00:55:28.920solo right yeah and then um and we love camilla shout out to her but um you know obviously that
00:55:35.580didn't end up working out um we we also knew like we performed it at close at coachella in 2015 or
00:55:44.00016 16 i think yeah we played at coachella we performed it and uh camilla was still on the
00:55:49.520song but she like wasn't around to like come out and do the feature with us and so we just did like
00:55:53.740my parts of the song that is a bad explanation of that part of the story she was like i will come
00:55:59.040out and sing the song with you at coachella you guys should i don't care this she needs to this
00:56:03.620is a messed up thing here we go i'm totally fine airing this out and uh and and yeah and she just
00:56:11.240never came and i think and in her defense though i think she was hanging with taylor swift which
00:56:18.340is a pretty cool thing to be doing um but anyways we were just like we were just like all right
00:56:23.580well we'll just do the half of the song that drew sings on and and we did it and the next day
00:56:28.400i've never had a reaction to anything except for maybe buying a board ape uh all of her all of her0.65
00:56:35.400twitter was just like what the fuck is this song when is this coming out tons of like video reposts0.79
00:56:40.840and we're like yo i don't know what's about to happen with the song but it's gonna be0.78
00:56:43.720something different than we've had we've ever seen before and it came out and just oh and then
00:56:48.960uh camilla ended up pulling up the song um like literally we were ready to put it out we'd already
00:56:54.740like our fans already knew about it we knew it was going to be heater and she decided it wasn't
00:56:58.060right for her and then Halsey like stepped up and was like I would I would
00:57:04.040have never I was such a big fan of her music at the time and that was just
00:57:07.900ended up being I couldn't believe it like how it all came together like last
00:57:10.720minute and and yeah it was just the perfect the fit and we're both kind of
00:57:15.700the same place in our career at that time and just to have that song together
00:57:18.520then was I think really just it happens like once in a lifetime if you're lucky
00:57:22.780you know that whole process was bizarre because then the song you know it was
00:58:22.780But I think also, like, I mean, while I'm not, like, proud of everything that happened over the course of that time, like, I think I love that mentality.
00:58:30.040Because I still feel like we have the underdog.
00:58:31.560I still don't feel like we've accomplished anything.