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00:02:14.300 I'm an assassin. 1.00

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00:02:17.280 You know, like, I'm just very... 1.00

00:02:18.640 That's getting clipped.

00:02:19.320 You know?

00:02:19.560 For sure.

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00:02:21.900 Please clip that in concert.

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00:02:24.560 Woo!

00:02:29.140 Yo, am I an L.A. boy?

00:02:35.780 You're an elder.

00:02:39.580 You're an elder, L.A.

00:02:41.180 You get only two strikes.

00:02:43.680 That's one.

00:02:45.200 Is that possible or no?

00:02:46.540 No, because you're not a boy.

00:02:48.340 George is right.

00:02:49.000 An L.A. man?

00:02:52.560 An L.A. man?

00:02:54.280 Yes, I think you are, Mike.

00:02:55.200 Welcome back to...

00:02:56.560 No, go ahead.

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00:03:01.560 Oh, he came with a...

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00:03:07.040 Welcome back to Impulsive, the number one podcast in the world.

00:03:08.680 Thank you guys for listening, watching, viewing, and subscribing.

00:03:11.380 The parents are really listening.

00:03:13.520 If you do listen, why?

00:03:17.080 Why?

00:03:17.800 What's wrong, dude?

00:03:18.620 Dude, I love the Scooby-Doo shirt you got going on.

00:03:21.600 You're going to go fight crime over there? 0.99

00:03:23.920 You got shaggy next to you? 1.00

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00:03:30.660 Just calm down.

00:03:32.980 Gary, take a seat.

00:03:34.380 Welcome to our podcast.

00:03:35.660 Ladies and gentlemen, it's Gary Vaynerchuk.

00:03:38.180 He's here in Puerto Rico.

00:03:41.480 The whole Gary Vee team.

00:03:43.260 Good to see you, bro.

00:03:44.100 Hey, brother.

00:03:44.620 How are you?

00:03:45.080 How are you?

00:03:45.580 Good to see you, bro.

00:03:46.240 What's up, bro?

00:03:47.680 What's up?

00:03:48.500 How are you?

00:03:49.680 What's up?

00:03:50.580 So three team members on Gary Vee's side?

00:03:53.340 Yes.

00:03:54.200 Is that the whole squad?

00:03:56.080 In real life?

00:03:56.780 The IRL team?

00:03:59.020 No, it's way uglier than that.

00:04:01.980 It's a good looking group of lads.

00:04:03.860 They're extremely attractive.

00:04:05.560 Dustin's like 54 and he looks like 16.

00:04:08.200 No way.

00:04:08.980 Are you really 54?

00:04:10.180 No, how old are you, Dustin?

00:04:11.400 Dustin, how old are you?

00:04:12.640 He's 37.

00:04:13.520 Same with Mike.

00:04:14.220 Let's go, bro.

00:04:15.400 But Mike looks 37.

00:04:16.940 No, Mike doesn't look 37.

00:04:18.540 Mike looks good too, but Dustin can pass for a weird number.

00:04:23.020 Do you drink or do any smoking?

00:04:25.280 You do?

00:04:25.780 He does everything wrong.

00:04:26.780 But we're trying to sell you on a book, bro.

00:04:28.420 The skin looks good.

00:04:29.740 This guy over here looks like he could be your lacrosse manager.

00:04:32.820 Like, oh, simply for lacrosse.

00:04:35.840 Just that's it.

00:04:37.440 Pickleball. 1.00

00:04:38.180 Pickleball.

00:04:39.200 Strictly pickleball.

00:04:39.980 Are you from Fairfield County, Connecticut?

00:04:41.640 I'm from Jersey.

00:04:42.160 Jersey, let's go.

00:04:43.420 That was close.

00:04:44.140 Of course you are.

00:04:46.260 Dude, Gary, welcome.

00:04:48.020 Thank you.

00:04:48.720 Came to Puerto Rico.

00:04:49.780 I did. 1.00

00:04:50.400 Holy shit. 1.00

00:04:51.400 Why? 0.99

00:04:51.840 It's good to see him.

00:04:52.360 I had a speech.

00:04:53.300 I, you know, I actually told you this the other day, but obviously we're doing.

00:04:56.520 i'm speaking so little now because the v friends thing has got me so busy now i've got two big

00:05:03.060 things that i have to manage so the content book writing speeches is kind of what falls by the

00:05:09.220 wayside with v friends explosion yeah but it literally literally my you know we have a speaking

00:05:15.440 bureau in baner x baner speakers and they're devastated because i was their cash cow so

00:05:20.000 zach is still sending stuff to me all the time and it's you know comes across you know it says 0.95

00:05:26.060 puerto rico and i'm like you know what all those fuckers are down there yeah i'm not gonna i'm not 0.98

00:05:33.040 gonna get down there any other way so fuck it let me do it so i'm glad this worked out yeah me too 0.99

00:05:37.940 yeah and you're right that we are all fuckers and we're all down here uh thank god by the way 0.98

00:05:44.620 we've been trying to get you on for forever i'm really happy to be here congrats you guys you 0.97

00:05:48.500 guys have really put together a show that really fucking matters a lot of people love it learn 0.95

00:05:54.160 from it yeah we don't you guys have real fuck you do get it you guys have real talent you guys have 0.96

00:05:58.960 real chemistry which is the real fucking punchline of something like this and it's like it's cool to 0.98

00:06:03.680 watch you guys build step by step thanks bro thanks brother hopefully hopefully we get some 0.84

00:06:07.860 good clips i want to be on your instagram page of you dropping knowledge i see him you have so much

00:06:13.020 content yeah you know i think you know it's fun to have d-rock here because he was such a beginning 0.95

00:06:17.580 part of that journey with me many years ago you know seven or eight years ago i was like fuck

00:06:23.360 this is this is it i mean obviously you and i met so early on in your journey and probably that was 0.60

00:06:29.780 then that was probably about a year 18 months before you and i met i was like okay this is

00:06:36.860 about to shift like whomever and whatever companies do best on really understanding not

00:06:43.860 only how to be on these platforms but be good at all of them you know going back to 2006 i was good

00:06:49.740 at youtube before youtube was a thing twitter was huge for me back in 07 i was really good at that

00:06:55.280 that's how my brain worked but um you know it it became a game of like it's what you know why vine

00:07:01.300 was so obvious to me it was every platform who understands it your skill set worked on vine

00:07:07.900 that was much harder you wouldn't have done that on twitter back then couldn't have no correct so

00:07:12.580 it became a game of let's be the best in the world at contextual creative per platform

00:07:17.980 and because i had an agency that was doing that work as well it was a flywheel i had to figure it

00:07:23.540 out scale it to the brands vice versa was was that the genesis of vayner media media the genesis of

00:07:30.280 vayner media was aj my brother was graduating college and we wanted to be in business together

00:07:35.600 and my brother did not want to work for my dad and in the wine store and it was just a ticking

00:07:41.000 time bomb and it was going to be fantasy sports it was going to be deal the day we almost built

00:07:45.200 draft kings we almost built groupon but we picked something way worse

00:07:49.320 but but what it was was at that time already in 09 i remember talking to age i'm like listen 0.77

00:07:58.200 i've got a feel of this thing this is going to be the fucking thing and i remember this line i was 0.62

00:08:03.920 like radio was the fucking dominant source of information and content and marketing in the 0.97

00:08:09.220 world somebody invented the television it fucking built and then there was a crossing point when 0.99

00:08:15.180 and that became the thing. 0.98

00:08:16.780 The internet is killing it,

00:08:18.780 but this new thing, social media,

00:08:21.200 is advancement of the internet

00:08:23.060 that's different than the last 15 years.

00:08:24.700 That was more about information.

00:08:26.300 This was more about people, content.

00:08:29.940 It was just so entertaining.

00:08:31.080 It was so obvious to me what was happening.

00:08:32.560 It was like, let's build a company

00:08:33.980 that helps the biggest brands

00:08:35.140 because they don't know what the,

00:08:36.140 like AJ's computer, literally AJ's laptop in 2009

00:08:39.860 set up Pepsi's Twitter account,

00:08:41.960 the NHL's Twitter and Facebook,

00:08:43.940 Campbell's Soup, like it was, you can't even imagine,

00:08:46.640 it's kind of like NFTs now, right?

00:08:48.200 The Wild West.

00:08:49.040 It was Wild West for social.

00:08:50.900 I saw Wild West e-commerce in 96, I saw blogging,

00:08:54.880 I saw it all happen, being 46 really is that prime age

00:09:00.240 to see everything, because it all happened

00:09:02.240 when you were like 18, 19, 20, and then just happened

00:09:04.320 for the last 25 years, so we're like,

00:09:06.400 let's figure this out, they have money,

00:09:08.760 I didn't have money because my dad never paid me

00:09:11.460 a lot of money building his business,

00:09:13.180 So we need to do something that made money.

00:09:14.860 I didn't want to raise money.

00:09:16.200 It was hard to raise money.

00:09:17.160 The economy just collapsed.

00:09:18.560 So we're like, let's do a service business because we'll get paid.

00:09:21.320 We'll learn. 0.92

00:09:22.500 And fucking 13 years later, we're 1,500 employees globally. 1.00

00:09:25.820 It's a big ass company. 1.00

00:09:26.660 Yeah, it's insane. 0.99

00:09:27.640 I don't know how many people know you and I are history, which is absurd.

00:09:33.940 I don't even know if you guys know this.

00:09:35.200 When I was 18 years old, I entered a competition that was hosted by Grape Story

00:09:40.780 uh to make a commercial for i believe it was virgin mobile on vine it was a a user generated

00:09:47.900 content uh contest so whatever whoever could make the best commercial would be flown out to new york

00:09:53.480 and uh potentially be signed by vayner media it was literally literally a vay so virgin was a

00:09:58.960 vayner media client me and jerome jar for everybody's listening i'm sure a lot of those

00:10:03.800 people know that if they're og viners we started an agency called grape story to represent viners

00:10:08.880 and the marketing campaign was find the next vine superstar yeah on the record i think we 0.98

00:10:17.180 fucking drilled it out of all the fucking people that we could have picked i can't believe it 0.95

00:10:23.560 you've made me look very good on that one yeah dude i so i i won the contest bro i had i had 1.00

00:10:29.000 18 000 followers oh shit so you're like a baby dog i've gary's like a proper day one wow like 0.99

00:10:36.180 way before you bucko oh jesus 0.99

00:10:38.320 what's interesting about it was jerome deserves all the credit he got it down to three and he's

00:10:48.080 like these three and i i remember walking into the office at 3 15 our last office between before 0.98

00:10:54.120 the one we're in now and i watched him and i was like that kid's got it that's crazy it's fucking

00:10:58.860 crazy watching you and like we were talking about you when we landed here and i was like dude 0.82

00:11:03.700 did anybody see what fucking logan did in wrestlemania he's like a proper that was like 0.96

00:11:09.900 he's a proper athlete that's so weird i was like that fucking split jump i'm like like i you know 0.97

00:11:16.120 like i don't know for some reason like the the floyd all the crazy things you do there's something 0.88

00:11:21.100 about that split jump i was like dude he's really got it yeah i got up there i was telling them that

00:11:27.920 you're gonna that that i think that platform for you is a worthwhile debate because i was like look

00:11:33.560 that platform he could be like a mix between the rock and will ferrell after this he could do this

00:11:38.720 for two three four years and i bet you he can go and fucking win academy awards and do big movies 0.92

00:11:43.060 i mean it's a you've gone on to do real shit and you know it's fun like for me gonna there you know 0.98

00:11:49.600 or charlie d'amelio or who was further along than gun and you or everything nfts twitter face like 0.91

00:11:57.380 my career has been around um just intuition intuition i was gonna say your intuition and

00:12:02.940 your vision is is disgustingly accurate i've i've bragged about getting to know you just because

00:12:11.240 being your friend has yielded such amazing results for my life and it's interesting because it's not

00:12:17.680 like you you're not like you're not silver plattering anything you just say something

00:12:22.360 it's like a nod a subtle nod and then one can do what they want with it my my whole my whole

00:12:27.880 pokemon craze was kick-started by you literally by you because i had a call with you and you go

00:12:32.440 you should you should you should look into this a little bit just do a little bit of research

00:12:35.840 i did i got addicted and now it's like a major part of my brand like look around how much pokemon

00:12:39.960 is on the wall the thing with you and you know and why i wanted to give you guys compliments

00:12:44.620 because i one of the things i do for a living is just watch like it's insane how much i know about

00:12:49.760 what people are doing even though i've never spent time with them i'm just watching i'm trying to

00:12:53.640 understand why culture likes something why the world is interested not interested why was this

00:12:58.620 cool why is this not cool anymore like me breaking down why why women want to wear like mom jeans as

00:13:05.960 a cool trend is like how my brain works like why is this candy going to work why are these

00:13:10.780 beverages going to work so watching you guys has been a lot of fun for me because i like watching

00:13:16.260 the podcast that roll because it's very very impactful on both the podcast and the micro

00:13:22.300 pieces of content because the model that we absolutely pioneered is now the model do long

00:13:27.420 for him chop it up right 100 um you though the reason i've made you know i've met a lot of you

00:13:35.000 along the way there's been a lot of people that looked exactly like you tons of potential the

00:13:40.660 right ingredients but a lot of people don't know how to cook that meal the thing with you that i

00:13:46.620 really admire and that i don't think is obvious to anybody unless they're really know you is you 0.73

00:13:51.480 fucking work hardest out of everyone it's the hardest working person like when i tell like 0.56

00:13:56.800 it's fun to one of the reasons i like reaching out to you is it's fun because i know you're 0.98

00:14:01.580 going to put in the work like it's not fun to tell somebody who is not it's just a waste of

00:14:07.540 three minutes these are not very long interactions i'm like hey pay attention to this yeah two weeks

00:14:12.740 ago we uh i had this commercial that i put out for this thing we're working on took read it was

00:14:19.540 like a 30 second thing it took him like an hour to work on it because i told him exactly what i

00:14:23.120 want we're very good at working together yeah logan hits me up he goes hey i need i need reed

00:14:27.080 to edit this and i turn to him i go buddy this is gonna take you all day and he goes nah bro it's

00:14:32.140 30 seconds i go all day i go this guy is gonna jump down your throat dude i walked in i swear

00:14:38.880 to god i can't even i can't make this up and re what he's like this he's like shaking and i walk

00:14:44.000 in i'm like you good he goes dude i'm just scared he goes what if he doesn't like it what if bro

00:14:48.660 No, this is going to happen when you work with Logan. 0.99

00:14:50.820 Take your expectations and shit on him because he's going to. 0.99

00:14:54.120 No, he really, you know, I've seen it. 1.00

00:14:56.080 I've seen it.

00:14:56.780 I've watched the journey sometimes close, sometimes very far away and everything in between.

00:15:01.360 You know, look, you've got a lot of creative skill sets and you've got great work ethic.

00:15:06.080 And there's very little confusion to me to why you're in the spot you're in.

00:15:09.880 Well, I appreciate it.

00:15:11.420 Seriously, thank you for gassing me up.

00:15:13.640 I got I got to cut it eventually.

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00:15:52.740 Now back to the show.

00:15:53.780 I do want to ask a question about hard work

00:15:55.540 because it does seem so formulaic.

00:15:59.400 Like everyone who's successful

00:16:01.540 will tell you the same exact thing.

00:16:03.920 But what is it about,

00:16:06.740 like how do you find that drive to do that hard work?

00:16:09.920 And especially even just hanging with you

00:16:12.620 that little bit in New York, that last round,

00:16:14.140 like you are literally always working and I asked you like when do you have fun what how do you

00:16:20.880 balance that work and play life the answer you know you you got to the answer before I was able

00:16:25.660 to jump in I don't think anybody can work hard hard unless they like it I was the least hard 0.94

00:16:34.080 working student in the history of this fucking country I got d's and f's for real like I'm so 0.96

00:16:41.980 pumped we were able to get my report card from high school 0.97

00:16:44.120 a couple years ago so I could put it out

00:16:45.880 because like when people

00:16:47.920 when I was saying that I could tell that people thought I was

00:16:49.820 getting C's I was like no no no

00:16:51.900 because you actually have to try to

00:16:53.940 get D's and F's and what I mean by that is

00:16:56.000 you have to completely completely

00:16:57.960 go all in on never paying attention

00:16:59.920 and never doing anything which is

00:17:01.920 exactly what I accomplished before. That cusses my soul because

00:17:03.860 I tried my hardest.

00:17:05.800 And then guess what bro?

00:17:07.300 D's and F's. But I wasn't there like

00:17:09.880 no fuck this i was like dude i got my dad's gonna paint my ass bro so so you know there's a really 0.99

00:17:17.620 tricky part to this whole thing in my mind which is why i love uh that artists are in a different 0.99

00:17:24.020 place now with nft land uh comedians or people with like like what you were affected by with

00:17:30.100 mine um long tail models for instagram there's genres that come along that really work for

00:17:36.880 certain people right um for me the macro of that is entrepreneurship i was selling lemonade and

00:17:44.620 shoveling snow and washing cars and selling baseball cards every day of my childhood or

00:17:50.900 every other day in between playing sports because it was more fun for me than anything else i could

00:17:56.180 do yeah on a normal summer day when i was 11 years old and and i would grow up in the 80s like we

00:18:01.460 went outside you would just go outside and play and like you know some people like i had friends

00:18:06.140 this this will make sense to a lot of people oh dustin i had a lot i had several friends who were

00:18:09.920 like very like dirt bike like like they were like those skater dirt bike kicks and nothing was more

00:18:14.800 fun for them to like drive down like that's race we had train tracks and like do the dirt bike

00:18:21.160 thing for me there was i couldn't even give a second to that but but ringing people's doorbells

00:18:27.560 and like ding dong like can i wash your car for five bucks was like the greatest thing that ever

00:18:32.560 happen to me yeah so for me it's really easy and i see it in others what's awesome now with the

00:18:39.080 internet is entrepreneurship is so much more creative i think without the creative lens

00:18:44.420 you wouldn't have worked as hard if it was like pure entrepreneur i was like pure like i'm a

00:18:49.080 salesman i like it i like the sales part i like the operations part so i have big companies i like

00:18:54.420 to operate um but now there's so many options for the people that are watching that like they're

00:18:59.760 they don't like their job and like that's just part of like making a binary decision of are you

00:19:06.280 willing to risk the upfront for the long-term happiness most people are stuck because they live

00:19:11.680 within the means of their salary and they've got debt and they're like stuck in a hamster wheel

00:19:17.960 and the only way to get out is to downgrade your optics worse car worse apartment worse year or two

00:19:25.500 or three in your trips and your nightlife and i'm very empathetic that for a lot of people they

00:19:31.280 can't make that move they can't move out of manhattan and move an hour and a half away in

00:19:36.060 jersey or connecticut but it's but it's an it's a very important move because i've always talked 0.97

00:19:41.540 about it and being and being humble in your purchases it's hard it is but it's so fucking 0.51

00:19:47.200 i think it weeds out uh posers in my in my opinion because i i look around a lot of people 0.90

00:19:54.980 that are in my industry and i'm watching them hop out of these cars these have these jewelers

00:19:58.780 have these clothes and i'm like man like you're saving nothing for like the few you're not

00:20:03.460 investing anything like they they want to make sure people know that they're killing it

00:20:08.060 and i've always been on the opposite i don't care what your opinion of me is yeah i think i grew up

00:20:14.060 being hated so much that even

00:20:16.040 people liking me in a little bit, it's

00:20:18.020 cool. I'm like, oh, great. People kind of like my shit.

00:20:20.420 Like when I read hate comments, people are like, oh, 1.00

00:20:21.980 this guy, he thinks he's funny, but his stand-up 0.99

00:20:24.060 thing's going to suck. And I'm like, dude, he believes I'm going to 0.91

00:20:26.000 do a stand-up show. Like, I

00:20:27.600 really take the best thing out of everything.

00:20:30.140 And I think once you look at it from that point

00:20:31.960 of view, you can't lose. So instead of buying

00:20:33.860 like Louis Vuitton shoes, put that to your

00:20:35.860 rent and then go invest that money into

00:20:37.820 something you like. I just have a lot of

00:20:39.800 compassion for the world we

00:20:41.860 now live in. It's incredibly

00:20:43.520 driven by insecurity and short-term needs magnified by the tools that allow people to

00:20:52.840 execute on those feelings people have been insecure their whole life like the world's

00:20:57.720 always had insecure people those people just didn't have the outlet of using social media

00:21:02.040 to keep creating more makeup for their insecurity so it becomes a hamster wheel of it it's it you

00:21:08.340 know this is why having real conversations is very important because there's a lot of people out

00:21:14.660 there that if they just shift their head and look at the world from a different perspective

00:21:18.480 they can be in a much happier place and i i take on that vibe there's many reasons that you're you

00:21:24.400 and that you're successful and even just what you iterated just now that i think separates you from

00:21:30.600 most uh ceos or boss uh people is that your emotional intelligence is is incredibly high

00:21:38.640 your compassion for people your understanding for people um i've even come to you personally

00:21:43.920 about how to deal with certain stuff and even um i remember after japan you were the one of the

00:21:49.100 first people to call me and like man that goes that goes a long way that goes forever you know

00:21:53.300 just just because i made a made a huge error but it wasn't a reflection of my character who i

00:21:59.440 actually was and and getting that call from you meant so much and even even recently with um uh

00:22:06.200 the the game boy resin table i made and i was getting hate online for it and i go gary what do

00:22:11.680 i what do i do here like how do you handle this and your response was like empathy for for those

00:22:19.460 who feel the need to tear down other people's art like how what's happening in your life that you're

00:22:26.860 so hurt that you feel the need to just rip what's what's so exciting i'm sitting here almost like

00:22:32.060 in a meta situation where i'm like man this show this platform the the enormous amount of attention

00:22:39.780 of look i gravitate towards youth culture i love that person is so still in the game you know i

00:22:47.120 love hanging out with ogs my team knows like i love 70 year olds i'm d-rock is literally actively

00:22:52.540 in the process of booking interviews of 90 year olds for content that i want to do who do you

00:22:56.840 Who do you go to for that?

00:22:58.480 We're randomly meeting people.

00:23:00.000 We were at this breakfast the other day

00:23:01.120 and he's like, my grandpa's 90

00:23:02.040 and I'm like, D-Rock, are you on a Rhode Island?

00:23:04.020 Like really?

00:23:05.100 So I'm very passionate and fascinated by different genres 1.00

00:23:07.940 but the youth culture's insane

00:23:09.660 and as you're talking, I'm like, 1.00

00:23:11.560 this is fucking it, man. 0.99

00:23:12.420 This is the beginning pieces. 0.99

00:23:13.400 We're starting to change this.

00:23:14.760 We're starting to have,

00:23:15.620 there was nobody three years ago,

00:23:18.020 nobody three years ago saying,

00:23:21.720 oh, I got haters.

00:23:22.800 Let me have compassion for them.

00:23:24.600 Not even six months ago.

00:23:26.840 But I pounded it, pounded it, pounded it.

00:23:29.520 And it's just truth.

00:23:31.080 Just think about the concept

00:23:32.780 of needing to hurt someone else

00:23:35.220 just to give you a second of escapism

00:23:37.720 from your own pain.

00:23:39.120 Just think about it.

00:23:40.180 I just don't know how not to feel that for others.

00:23:44.100 And I think that we need to have that combo

00:23:47.420 because for the people that are creating

00:23:49.520 and are making entertainment, escapism, information,

00:23:54.560 it's really hard to get that level of hate.

00:23:56.840 it's hard no matter how strong you are no matter i'm very similar like the whole world always told

00:24:02.220 me i was gonna lose that except for my mom thus i'm like good you know like nothing phases me i i

00:24:06.700 just know who i am when i go to bed i'm really proud of who i am yeah i totally really doesn't

00:24:11.980 i don't really care because they don't walk with me they don't know my journey i was talking to

00:24:16.100 this kid i'm not gonna name who he is because he's coming up in the social media realm and he

00:24:20.200 told me he goes bro i don't he goes i it's very hard for me to to figure out who's in my life

00:24:25.680 because they want to be here versus what they need from me and he goes and it's starting to get

00:24:30.620 really uncomfortable when it comes to women he goes like i feel so insecure all the time yeah

00:24:35.280 and he goes how do you walk into these rooms and change people's like minds opinions hearts

00:24:39.500 and i said i've been in this game for a little bit like i'm a baby and i just learned now uh

00:24:45.420 when i walk in the room the goal is not to turn everybody's heart it's to make sure mind doesn't

00:24:49.380 change so when i walk into this room i want to set an example by by just no talking just my

00:24:55.280 actions for people to call me and ask me about that stuff so it's just a it's a really really

00:25:00.680 tough game in every genre that you're in and i think the best thing you could do is really really

00:25:05.580 love yourself start with loving yourself loving your family and then after that you're going to

00:25:10.900 be able to love other people and for everybody who's listening because i've said that so many

00:25:15.800 times and i've read all the dms and emails and messages for the last almost 20 years now a lot

00:25:22.180 of people just now as you were perfectly saying that said but i don't love myself and this is a

00:25:27.580 very important thing for everybody to hear this is my this is something i spend a lot of time

00:25:31.220 thinking about if you are listening or watching right now actually and actually saying i don't

00:25:36.740 love myself you have to remember that somebody else put that inside of you your mom or dad most

00:25:42.940 likely or maybe a grandparent they put that inside of you because they didn't love themselves

00:25:48.880 and you know a lot of people get mad at their folks and i try to remind them your grandparents

00:25:54.720 made your parents like there's always that next person in the family tree and so i think that

00:26:01.840 we're starting to get into more interesting while everyone's like social media sucks in the world 0.98

00:26:06.420 i'm actually watching and i'm like i don't know i think shit's getting a little bit interesting 0.98

00:26:10.600 we talked about this last week about the benefits the versus shortcut this dog is 0.95

00:26:15.200 by the way the dog is doing great no he's chewing the wires the the benefits versus the shortcomings

00:26:20.920 of social media and if it's a net positive or net negative but but i wanted to ask you this

00:26:24.940 do you think there's more benefit to uh an individual who's who's facing criticism uh

00:26:31.340 finding a way to be empathetic with the criticizers be empathetic with the haters

00:26:35.100 or their ability to put on the blinders that every ceo number one number really yeah because

00:26:41.180 my question to you is this because that's that's scalable empathy empathy for other people yeah

00:26:45.960 the other one is holding your breath and you're gonna give you really think so because i think

00:26:50.220 there's a lot of people out there like who are able to just be like dude like your criticism

00:26:55.440 is so worthless and doesn't it's so uninformed and uneducated like that's where i've tried to

00:27:00.920 get myself i get it by the way there's a lot of there's there's you know how it is right like 0.53

00:27:04.700 it's like everything in our society red blue black white it's there there's moments in time

00:27:10.080 where that works I mean I do it all like I'm thrilled to be like if you actually knew what 0.95

00:27:15.900 was running through my mind sometimes when I'm getting shit on I'm like man if you're mad at 1.00

00:27:20.240 me now watch what the fuck I'm gonna put down your throat the next decade you motherfucker 1.00

00:27:24.440 I can get very competitive that way too comma there's no question that actually actually being 1.00

00:27:33.400 like man this person's hurt but then acting upon it as well and be like yo listen like I know you 0.98

00:27:39.160 told me that i i'm too busy sucking a cock right now like and you're 12 like but i feel like you're 0.98

00:27:45.580 going through some shit let's talk about it because because bro like i'm in the middle of 1.00

00:27:49.660 shooting content here now i gotta talk to this 12 year old from iowa about why he thinks i suck too 0.99

00:27:54.240 much cock which i don't suck cock like you know what i'm getting at right now like i get it brother 0.99

00:27:59.560 i get it so much the amount of cock i've sucked on dm is profound like where does the empathy end 0.99

00:28:06.560 It was the same thing with him 1.00

00:28:07.480 in the fucking Game Boy table. 0.99

00:28:08.720 I'm like, dude, like you're going to sit there 1.00

00:28:10.160 and be like, listen, man,

00:28:11.200 I know I heard about your sister

00:28:12.980 and how she has, you know, early onset dementia.

00:28:15.520 Like, how do you start to do that?

00:28:18.440 Easy.

00:28:18.940 You add another element to the equation

00:28:20.720 and you think about the concept of gratitude.

00:28:23.500 You have to understand,

00:28:24.720 you can actually completely,

00:28:26.640 this has happened to me at NOS.

00:28:28.380 This happened the other day in the car. 0.99

00:28:30.500 A guy fucking ripped me heavy. 0.99

00:28:32.800 I gave a response. 1.00

00:28:34.320 He DM'd me.

00:28:35.040 He's like, I just got back from Afghanistan, Dan.

00:28:37.580 I have real PTSD, like, it was a real,

00:28:39.640 he's like, you don't understand.

00:28:40.800 He ended with something that I don't even wanna, 0.64

00:28:42.620 like, it's really fucking intense out here.

00:28:45.740 And so what I would say is as a fellow human being, 0.99

00:28:48.860 one that by the way, is fucking doing it. 0.99

00:28:52.100 You're fucking doing it, right? 1.00

00:28:53.700 Like I promise you, 19 year old you, 0.99

00:28:55.760 looking at what you've been doing 0.99

00:28:56.720 the last seven or eight years is fucking happy. 0.99

00:28:59.200 He's surprised, man. 1.00

00:29:01.740 He's like, damn, you made it past 26, holy shit. 1.00

00:29:04.900 So three minutes a day, nine minutes a week, 1.00

00:29:08.560 16 minutes a month, do I think that you can decide

00:29:11.840 to reply to three people, one of which,

00:29:14.060 that will completely change the framework

00:29:15.960 of how they see the world? 0.99

00:29:17.200 Because these kids out here think the world sucks 1.00

00:29:19.580 and everything sucks and nobody gives a fuck. 1.00

00:29:22.100 And you give one fuck, one time? 1.00

00:29:25.060 And by the way, I'm telling you, and I know he knows, 1.00

00:29:28.980 I'm telling you, it will fucking build, 0.98

00:29:30.980 it will be beneficial for you. 0.99

00:29:32.420 No, no, no, and I do a lot of it,

00:29:35.160 but I found myself trying to cultivate

00:29:37.740 the relationships that provide themselves

00:29:40.200 in a positive way.

00:29:41.820 By the way, that's right.

00:29:42.700 Because the message I get,

00:29:43.680 like, yo, your book changed my life.

00:29:45.160 Like, I respond to those people

00:29:46.660 as opposed to, yo, like-

00:29:47.940 Listen, you want to hear something crazy?

00:29:49.120 I feel like I had to calibrate

00:29:50.380 seven or eight years ago

00:29:51.320 to be a little bit more thoughtful

00:29:52.420 because I was only feeding.

00:29:53.940 Got it, positive.

00:29:54.460 Because I have so much to give.

00:29:55.680 I was like, so I think that's right,

00:29:57.740 but I think you need to give

00:29:59.120 some deposits to that.

00:30:00.940 I think it'll bring benefit.

00:30:02.060 it'll round you out you know you're i'm sorry they're broken yeah it's just like you know it's

00:30:07.420 just honestly it's just nice yeah by the way you know this i don't have to tell you this

00:30:12.560 93 of them want to be you more than life itself oh when you respond to them about the about what

00:30:17.620 they say they automatically i'm your biggest fan i love what you do sometimes they're having a bad

00:30:21.560 day yeah i uh i i like to reflect to make sure i'm always being a better person and all the times

00:30:27.620 that I kind of cringe on decisions I made

00:30:30.120 or situations I put myself in

00:30:31.940 or relationships I broke,

00:30:33.640 it was always, always, 10 out of 10,

00:30:36.440 100 out of 100 times,

00:30:38.100 it was always when I was hurting.

00:30:39.480 100%.

00:30:40.000 So when I was really, really, really upset

00:30:43.320 or jealous or insecure,

00:30:45.600 that's when the ugliness comes out of me.

00:30:47.620 And so when I'm getting that,

00:30:49.120 I'm like, oh, this guy's hurting.

00:30:50.840 And I know what that feels like.

00:30:52.580 So if they're giving me hate,

00:30:55.060 they can't play that game of tennis with me

00:30:57.660 if I put my racket down

00:30:58.860 so then it's over

00:31:00.380 so now if I just played love with them

00:31:02.560 it's either two things are going to happen

00:31:04.000 they're going to walk away

00:31:04.760 or they're going to be like

00:31:05.500 alright he's giving me the time of day

00:31:07.460 that nobody in my life is

00:31:08.700 yeah I think that's right

00:31:09.280 no absolutely

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00:32:12.340 Now back to the show.

00:32:16.740 Are you religious?

00:32:18.620 So I'm not.

00:32:19.500 you know it's so i was born in the soviet union and so a lot of people don't know this but in

00:32:24.480 communism in the ussr religion was outlawed all religion all religion wow yeah this is only about

00:32:31.360 the state that's right and so a lot of people don't realize this about the history of the ussr

00:32:35.540 which was different than other places in the world in every like china ussr cuba they all had

00:32:40.060 their like slight variations so my great grandfather was really the last person that i immigrated with

00:32:46.920 when we came to America that had any sense of religion in him by the time my grandparents were

00:32:52.280 born no by the time my parents were born no by the time I was born no so it wasn't really a big part

00:32:59.180 of our lives I which is really interesting because because of that and growing up in the U.S.

00:33:06.420 during the 80s 90s cold war religion is not a big factor in my life I've always had a really

00:33:12.460 interesting relationship with religion because i see how people weaponize it to disguise it as a

00:33:19.280 weapon for their own hate that they want to deploy but i also see it being an incredible crutch for

00:33:24.540 people in the worst of times it's been fascinating to see religion play out in my in my life how i

00:33:31.160 observe it but for me no it hasn't been it i would say on the flip side it's been fun because as i've

00:33:38.020 evolved and my life has evolved and like you know like the amount of pastors and rabbis and

00:33:43.720 they all they all know but yes but the amount that have reached out to me being like you're

00:33:48.580 very religious i'm like i am so i was gonna say that's why i asked a lot of principles you have

00:33:52.980 are pillars of religion i'm incredibly conscious to that now yeah as this journey has gone on which

00:33:59.000 which is great you know to me i'm i'm in a place where i i i want good and so as anything governments

00:34:07.880 religion companies platforms there's good and bad because humans make them good and bad

00:34:13.860 um the things we're talking about for the last 15 minutes are the things i'm focused on because

00:34:17.260 that's how i think we as humans make these things good or bad but i'm aware that a lot of my stuff

00:34:22.020 can touch on those tones um i curse a lot so a lot of the religious people don't love that

00:34:27.120 it's funny i like your videos where you talk about how you're not going to stop cursing

00:34:32.040 I just don't, I'm really, really bad

00:34:34.960 at doing anything that doesn't come

00:34:37.160 completely natural to me.

00:34:39.140 Like really bad.

00:34:40.980 I just don't want to not be me at all costs.

00:34:45.760 When it costs me money, when it costs me opportunity,

00:34:49.240 when it, like, I just like.

00:34:50.800 When it costs you diction, God forbid.

00:34:53.320 But you know, like, honestly, it's very,

00:34:55.760 I just like the ease of always being me.

00:34:59.260 I think that's the next wave too.

00:35:00.880 i think it's the current wave and the next wave i think it's going to continue to flow in that

00:35:04.180 direction you you're seeing the people that stay around now the people that are getting hot now

00:35:08.360 the people that are up next are all just 100 authentic to themselves it's just easy it's 0.83

00:35:13.280 exactly opposite i feel like that is and i'm not trying to shit on tiktok but everybody's doing

00:35:19.160 the same thing oh i'm not yeah i'm talking about you know what i'm saying like like on platforms

00:35:23.080 like at least vine people were creating their own like no i'm talking about like real staying power

00:35:27.600 like not not tiktok oh yeah like i thought you meant on platforms i think look vine too like

00:35:32.180 there were like there was beats you could speak to this like i i understand your point outplayed

00:35:37.260 something in the middle which is you know you also back to what we were talking about people

00:35:42.300 go through ebbs and flows i you know it's funny logan with all your different twists and turns

00:35:46.820 i think you'll be surprised as you guys are now getting older you're gonna watch that you know

00:35:52.700 you were the generation coming up you're gonna get a real at bat of watching the next and they

00:35:56.740 They're coming in so young, so you're already living this.

00:35:59.360 It's gonna be fun for you to see the first pattern of it

00:36:02.380 because by the time Logan was doing his thing,

00:36:04.080 I'd already been through all the YouTube one, 2006, 7, 8, 9.

00:36:08.180 I'd been through the Twitter influencer.

00:36:10.340 And by the time he came, I'm like,

00:36:11.640 okay, you can start to see certain things.

00:36:13.960 I think you'll be surprised.

00:36:14.960 I bet you, given this young and what I'm seeing on TikTok,

00:36:18.100 and I think we share a lot of similar points of view.

00:36:21.080 I'm just older.

00:36:22.060 I've had a couple more at-bats.

00:36:23.700 You're gonna be surprised by a person or two

00:36:25.820 that does have staying power and in that insight you'll notice that what happens is it's moments

00:36:31.460 in time more than anything else as and i bet you guys know this i mean i found you know even i who

00:36:37.580 think about this 24 7 subconsciously have gotten there you get caught up in what's working for a

00:36:43.040 little while and all of a sudden you just kind of wake up and it's six or 12 months later and you

00:36:47.520 kind of it's not that it's not you but you've deviated for subconscious success that's deep

00:36:54.160 and that is really deep you get caught up in like if i if i stop doing this then this won't right

00:36:58.900 or or it's even crazier this word works or this kind of like it goes so deep into the subconscious

00:37:04.920 you don't even realize you're doing it yeah there's a that it's that's actually there should

00:37:09.040 be studies done on this phenomenon that you're describing it's it's it's lost in the sauce

00:37:13.800 essentially yeah like you're you're being and then what and then what moments and then what

00:37:18.360 moments and it's not even about the algo it's just about culture it's like what's hot what

00:37:22.960 where are you in your life it's a new relationship a single friend a new girlfriend for you guys

00:37:27.380 like it just it just you know it's the way your world moves like puerto rico is gonna be different 0.95

00:37:32.440 than la like there's just a lot of shit that happens one random thing turns out you know like 0.55

00:37:36.980 thinking about the in you know i just saw the ring on the way up here like thinking about how that 0.95

00:37:40.480 went like that narrative that's a very what are we talking only four years right now five years

00:37:45.180 trying to think five for the first fight that you had with oh oh yeah yeah yeah four years you know

00:37:49.720 like you know i don't know the actual story maybe you give two seconds out of maybe everybody knows

00:37:53.580 it but like i'm dying to know the first combo that triggered it right if you think about how

00:37:59.340 things work in life there was a combo or a thought or you two talked or he said something or you guys

00:38:05.320 had real people actually let me let me let me tell me let me tell you because this is actually

00:38:09.080 fascinating okay were you in the kitchen that day okay so it's a very simple case i called me out

00:38:14.240 online and um this why because because that's what's fun well that's the moment that's like

00:38:19.700 the historical moment that would be like the the public that everyone knows jake pulled

00:38:23.480 any of the pools yeah i why i think i was i was the villain on youtube i had just so many

00:38:30.780 subscribers as him got it same age same physique uk us okay um but i but you had never talked to

00:38:37.900 him ever and he just randomly sorry that's not true we we had met once at the super bowl like

00:38:42.220 couple years probably but essentially never yep about especially about boxing but dude i almost

00:38:48.720 didn't do that fight i believe it it took danny rocker rocker do you know the rocker twins i love

00:38:53.640 it took him in the kitchen hyping me up going man you have to fight him it's gonna be the biggest

00:38:58.720 thing ever i'm like ksi's from the uk we have a different audience who's gonna watch that fight

00:39:03.080 he goes mate you have to do and just because danny rocker rocker pushed me i had a fight with ksi a

00:39:08.560 second fighter KSI, and they started a global

00:39:10.540 beverage brand with them.

00:39:12.680 Mayweather.

00:39:13.860 And they fought Mayweather.

00:39:15.760 And the splits.

00:39:17.680 You just beat me to it. I'm telling you,

00:39:20.440 I don't know what the fuck it was about that split jump. 0.98

00:39:23.140 I literally, 0.97

00:39:24.200 this is not a joke. In my brain,

00:39:26.580 you did that, the guy went, you jumped,

00:39:28.780 and in my brain, I see you

00:39:30.520 literally giving your Oscar

00:39:32.560 acceptance speech. Immortalized.

00:39:34.580 Immortalized.

00:39:36.360 Carrying the torch into the Olympic stage.

00:39:38.500 I'm like you know what he's gonna go deeper

00:39:41.300 this is me guessing I know nothing

00:39:42.680 he's gonna go deeper in this it's gonna work for him 0.90

00:39:45.300 it's gonna give him a platform he's gonna fucking make a movie 0.73

00:39:47.620 it's gonna work 0.83

00:39:48.320 and he's gonna go from comedy to more

00:39:51.080 look and I think you're gonna win an academy award

00:39:53.420 just don't slap anybody

00:39:55.680 but that's what we're talking about here right

00:40:01.600 like somebody makes one TikTok 0.99

00:40:03.460 cause they're pissed cause their shit's declining 1.00

00:40:06.100 cause TikTok's fucking them 1.00

00:40:08.080 because every platform fucks you. 1.00

00:40:09.560 No, it's called supply and demand. 1.00

00:40:10.960 More people make shit. 1.00

00:40:12.680 Ads go in. 1.00

00:40:13.760 It's the way it works. 0.99

00:40:14.620 That's why moving fast when new shit happens 0.99

00:40:16.440 is so important. 0.99

00:40:17.900 So they're pissed.

00:40:18.940 They're not getting what they used to get.

00:40:20.580 They're getting desperate.

00:40:22.000 And then they hit a place creatively,

00:40:24.520 whether pro or con,

00:40:25.960 and just do something different and it works.

00:40:27.940 And the next thing they know, 1.00

00:40:28.820 they have a fucking cupcake company. 1.00

00:40:30.160 It's crazy. 1.00

00:40:30.860 Crazy how that works.

00:40:31.860 Yeah, I love how your brain works.

00:40:33.240 But that's what it is.

00:40:34.480 You know, they get a viral cupcake video.

00:40:36.920 and that's why

00:40:38.980 I push people to make

00:40:40.340 it's an at bat 1.00

00:40:41.940 to change your life

00:40:42.800 that's why I push people

00:40:44.740 to say

00:40:45.100 you know 1.00

00:40:45.820 talk about shit 1.00

00:40:46.840 that fucking 1.00

00:40:47.560 you're interested in 1.00

00:40:48.640 I'm like a

00:40:49.420 you know

00:40:50.020 one thing a lot of my friends

00:40:51.800 talk to me about is

00:40:52.740 Gary

00:40:53.260 you're like

00:40:54.300 a real businessman

00:40:55.740 and people think

00:40:56.980 you're a motivational speaker

00:40:58.040 garage sailor

00:40:58.980 like

00:40:59.680 and they like

00:41:00.360 talk to me out of like

00:41:01.120 compassion

00:41:01.620 they're like

00:41:01.920 I feel bad

00:41:02.680 like my real business people 1.00

00:41:04.660 like the 50 year olds

00:41:05.500 who have billionaires

00:41:06.260 and they're like

00:41:06.700 they think i'm the guy and they're like this is weird like my nephew thinks you're a garage

00:41:11.180 sailing person i'm like i am a garage selling person but my point with that is i don't fear

00:41:17.540 being misjudged for my capacity and capabilities in other areas just because i might go viral

00:41:23.060 on a genre that might be silly because i know that i know back to the intent that happened

00:41:28.820 because i got 10 dms and emails in one flight from new york to la all saying you know you talk about

00:41:35.520 all this i should invest i should invest all all 10 of them same thing different words different 0.96

00:41:40.720 style but they all said the same thing hey i love you but you fucking talk about putting 25k into a 0.99

00:41:46.300 startup and it can change your life i have nine fucking dollars asshole yeah and so you know i'm 0.99

00:41:51.300 very i take my shit serious i'm like that's super fucking fair you know and i'm like i need to think 0.99

00:41:56.840 about this and i was and then like you know i don't know somewhere over fucking kansas or something 0.98

00:42:00.560 And I'm like, let's go to a garage sale.

00:42:02.080 Wait a minute, I used to have $9. 0.99

00:42:03.660 What the fuck was I doing? 1.00

00:42:04.620 Shit, garage sales. 1.00

00:42:06.200 And now with eBay? 1.00

00:42:07.280 And I just started making that content.

00:42:09.680 For all the fun that I have with that

00:42:12.540 and people have with it at my expense, which I love. 0.99

00:42:18.000 The amount of fucking, 0.99

00:42:19.120 I've had hundreds of thousands of people 1.00

00:42:20.740 in the last four years email me and say,

00:42:22.380 I had $19, I now have $100,000.

00:42:25.860 It's changed their life.

00:42:27.180 Selling mugs at a garage sale.

00:42:28.900 this is a legit i have a guy he's one of my closest friends names aj's in arizona i walked

00:42:34.640 into his guest bedroom and he i swear to god you're gonna think i'm lying i'm not fight club

00:42:40.600 gear everywhere the sunglasses the boots the jackets i go oh i gotta get rid of him he's 0.99

00:42:48.120 gonna kill me so i go what the fuck are you doing all this stuff he goes oh i sell this shit on ebay 0.99

00:42:52.880 and i go well how much time and he makes so much money in the stock market i go why do you is it 1.00

00:42:58.380 like a hobby he goes yeah i love it i do it pulls up how much he makes on ebay he makes more than

00:43:04.140 what i'm doing social media and i go bro i'm not after you sign to impulsive brother huh not after

00:43:10.340 you sign to impulsive nope still after we lose money on this show dude it costs a lot to get 0.87

00:43:17.220 him out here to puerto rico there goes our budget make me really fucking close i'll tell him that 0.77

00:43:20.900 yeah it's crazy no your your your garage sale uh arc is is phenomenal i mean like i i actually 0.85

00:43:31.020 didn't even know the garage sale side of gear i swear to god until four years in i've seen you

00:43:35.540 now as gary v now still love it why ask because it's because i would rather garage sale at 7 a.m

00:43:44.020 on a saturday than golf like 90 of the people i do business with they like that better i like this

00:43:49.640 better they like the calm the quiet nobody can bother them like my brother loves golf like i can

00:43:54.120 understand golf makes sense to me four hours nobody fucks with you go with your buddy couple 0.55

00:43:58.140 like makes all the competition you know aj's big reason was i love competition but your knees are

00:44:03.880 gonna go we can't play basketball like i need something in my 60s right uh now i have pickleball

00:44:08.580 so i'm set but you know i uh i for me the idea of rolling up to a stranger's home and that there's

00:44:16.020 a 1929 Green Lantern ring from a Cracker Jack's box

00:44:20.060 somewhere in the ship for a quarter

00:44:21.200 that I could sell for 1.7 million

00:44:22.900 is still the thrill of the hunt.

00:44:24.200 Do you ever feel bad?

00:44:25.460 Never.

00:44:26.300 You're like you take like somebody's $2 like

00:44:29.020 I read the, I read the,

00:44:29.960 Avengers 10 and it's worth like 26 million at auction. 1.00

00:44:33.640 And you're like fuck you motherfucker. 1.00

00:44:35.720 I read all those comments are like you are like, 1.00

00:44:38.020 I'm putting out this, so at first it's going great, right?

00:44:40.700 Like changing people's lives, you're the best,

00:44:43.060 you showed me, then all of a sudden

00:44:45.660 it started going viral on TikTok

00:44:47.000 and everyone's like,

00:44:48.080 let me get this straight.

00:44:49.020 You are very rich.

00:44:51.200 You're going to people's homes.

00:44:53.280 They want $20.

00:44:55.460 They're bargaining too.

00:44:56.720 I'll give you two.

00:44:57.420 Well, that's the thing.

00:44:58.460 I am.

00:44:59.380 I have to.

00:45:00.900 The whole prep,

00:45:01.700 my whole mindset was,

00:45:02.800 let me show people how to do it.

00:45:04.140 And if you have $117 in your bank account

00:45:06.480 and somebody wants $8 for Hot Wheels,

00:45:08.800 you better pay three.

00:45:10.320 My favorite one is the Trevor Wallace one.

00:45:13.260 Oh, Trevor. 1.00

00:45:13.760 You go in there and you fuck his face. 1.00

00:45:17.020 You got eight bucks, you go in there 1.00

00:45:18.640 and you give him a dollar 50.

00:45:19.700 You know, it's funny, Trevor, you know,

00:45:21.740 a lot of the other people have done it more often

00:45:24.560 and are more known for, but Trevor's one off that one.

00:45:28.180 Amazing.

00:45:28.520 Where I'm like, D-Rock, hand me the gun.

00:45:30.780 I mean, you know, that whole genre

00:45:34.280 of those four to seven people

00:45:35.700 that make a lot of content doing impressions of me

00:45:38.160 has been also one of the most wildly,

00:45:41.140 amazing feelings of my life,

00:45:44.740 the fact that I'm in a place

00:45:46.260 where people will actually impersonate me

00:45:48.440 and...

00:45:49.200 Like how?

00:45:49.740 How would they impersonate you?

00:45:50.860 Stop it.

00:45:52.400 No, I mean like

00:45:53.240 how would they impersonate you guys?

00:45:54.660 They're like TikTok.

00:45:57.080 You need to be making

00:45:57.980 at least one TikTok video a day.

00:46:00.020 By the way,

00:46:00.760 when he added,

00:46:02.020 I bite my nails 24-7.

00:46:04.240 Somewhere around like the 17th one,

00:46:06.460 he added this

00:46:07.620 and I was on the ground.

00:46:09.600 But let me get to this point, you'll love this world.

00:46:13.040 The fact that some of them have used that

00:46:15.380 to get a lot of awareness to then build their actual, 0.98

00:46:18.500 I mean, it's fucking, you know, 0.97

00:46:21.240 to me, somewhere along the line, I'm like, wait a minute. 0.97

00:46:24.100 If I just live my life, and I'm just living,

00:46:26.660 but I produce content,

00:46:28.320 that they'll have positive impact as the sawdust.

00:46:31.140 I'm just living, but there's sawdust,

00:46:33.060 and this is helping people?

00:46:34.540 That's another version.

00:46:35.920 Exactly, exactly.

00:46:38.520 Dogs, no.

00:46:39.260 They have a sense.

00:46:40.120 You also can't be mad at them

00:46:41.720 because they just did what you taught them to do.

00:46:43.980 Mad.

00:46:44.640 No, no, you know what I'm saying?

00:46:45.760 They found a way to create a voice for themselves.

00:46:48.900 It's so funny.

00:46:50.800 It's interesting.

00:46:52.000 Again, I'm trying to combat insecurity at scale.

00:46:55.320 So they were doing it for a while.

00:46:56.520 I didn't want to play on that I knew

00:46:57.800 because I wanted them to let it breathe a little bit.

00:47:00.340 But finally, we got to a point of a year in,

00:47:02.400 six months in, I was like,

00:47:03.500 let me leave a little.

00:47:04.540 And I would leave a comment or make acknowledgement.

00:47:07.540 and I was fascinated so many people like oh thank god you can take a joke or thank you know like

00:47:14.200 and I was like man that's just like the default cynicism or the default insecurity framework of

00:47:20.360 our society anybody who's watching who's got the benefit of getting popularity to buy homes and

00:47:27.940 happy and like help their mom like you have to you there's another side to it and you have to

00:47:34.160 also enjoy that and to me by the way nothing for nothing none of it is grounded in malicious intent

00:47:40.560 even people of course even people that go more center it is yeah he doesn't like you

00:47:45.200 um and so i'm very i'm like outrageously flat hey you hey yeah you watching you know i work

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00:48:26.560 the tennessee red line 800-889-9789 now back to the show you should get faster you know the guys

00:48:32.680 that's gonna be me they're just trying to do the same thing that that you are 100 you know what

00:48:38.260 i'm saying like a lot of and by the way that's another thing i realized about a lot of the

00:48:41.220 the hate comments or like stuff like that you would have hated everybody at 16 you would have 0.72

00:48:45.360 shit on everybody for sure but they're they're trying to post something that gets the most likes 0.75

00:48:48.740 you're trying to put out a video that gets the most views they want somebody to hit thumbs up 0.95

00:48:52.580 on their contacts it makes them feel good inside or or lead to something that's where the thing

00:48:57.920 that i think for everybody's knowing that a lot of influencers and a lot of people coming up the

00:49:01.360 game watches because they look up to you three and are coming up let me give you one good one

00:49:04.940 right from the this will really play just attach yourself from all of it like the thing that works

00:49:11.340 for me is not that i can deal with the hate it's that i can deal with the admiration yeah the reason

00:49:18.080 i can deal with people telling me i suck and i'm overrated and i blow is that when people tell me

00:49:22.760 i'm the goat i don't hear that either you're right in the middle yeah because because if you fall in 0.79

00:49:30.120 like with positive affirmation well then you're vulnerable like when for example because then

00:49:35.340 you're caring about 100 one of the things i think about a lot is if your whole life you're cute if

00:49:40.080 you're pretty girl boy right and all your affirmation is coming from that that's a lonely

00:49:45.120 game at 50 that's plastic surgery out the yang that's like that's your framework this is where

00:49:50.040 i get my validation from it rots quick i watched a drake interview something he said that i abide

00:49:55.580 by now there are a couple of things he said in this particular interview um 72 hour rule before

00:50:00.000 you make any decision that you know is uh starts with emotion um another one he said uh he said i

00:50:05.880 try not to get too caught up in the highs or the lows that's right which which it's essentially

00:50:09.740 same things what you're saying is like you know it there's a baseline where my uh mental functions

00:50:15.980 optimally and that's where i like to live it's a counter energy when everyone's like you're the 0.97

00:50:20.660 fucking like you i'm like dude my parents had sex at the right second and i have intuition and who 0.99

00:50:26.220 the fuck am i yeah you know what i mean like i beat like i go that way and then the other way 1.00

00:50:30.100 you fucking suck i'm like you suck too like as if imagine him on the sidewalk no no you suck too 1.00

00:50:37.740 right i mean like like people are good at certain things they're not good at certain things 1.00

00:50:42.500 like i i think that you just gotta understand that when one thing's coming at you 0.64

00:50:47.040 fucking like a superhero just push the other energy the problem is when people are getting 0.99

00:50:51.680 love you're fucking awesome you're they fucking want that they want to eat the shit out of that 1.00

00:50:56.420 oh i'm hot yeah i'm rich yeah i'm fucking best yeah but then they're like you suck oh they're 1.00

00:51:01.040 fucked up you got to stop both of it you uh you deal with a lot of famous people a lot of 1.00

00:51:06.040 successful people a lot of celebrities um for those who you haven't met yet who might not even 0.98

00:51:11.780 know you yeah if you admire them how do you engage in conversation with someone who's heard everything

00:51:16.960 you're ever about to say you mean like like people i actually know you so that's funny you

00:51:23.400 change the question at the end there you mean people that do or didn't know me at all or you

00:51:28.640 mean people that people that really do people that do not know like i do you assume i assume

00:51:33.280 your peers know you or no no i don't okay so i'm a let me rephrase that's changed a little bit in

00:51:39.180 the last two years yeah yeah last two years i can feel there's a difference and now i i am aware

00:51:46.920 so three years ago i definitely didn't assume i was like i didn't even allow myself to go there 0.68

00:51:52.360 for what who gives a fuck the last couple years i also don't like being delusional i'm like yes

00:51:58.440 a lot more people know who i am i would agree i would also say because of how weird i'm playing 0.98

00:52:04.000 it i also know that very few people actually really know what the fuck's going on with me

00:52:08.640 and so i have to take that into consideration okay okay so so then yeah let me let me let me

00:52:14.920 amend the question to when if anyone has a chance to approach someone who's has had a wealth of

00:52:23.200 experience in their life um and with that maybe comes money um knowledge whatever it is how do

00:52:29.920 you engage in conversation with these extraordinary people is there i'm gonna answer i'm gonna give

00:52:35.080 you a bunch of things because you were going somewhere that i want to share because it was

00:52:38.040 one of the biggest mistakes I've made in my life

00:52:39.640 and I'm trying to get better at it.

00:52:41.300 So, DRock knows where I'm going, I think.

00:52:45.080 I never reached out to anybody for like 10 years.

00:52:48.600 Nobody.

00:52:49.920 I first of all was focused on just doing the right things

00:52:54.360 and I knew good things would happen if that happened.

00:52:56.680 I also, if I'm being very transparent and vulnerable,

00:53:00.760 I enjoyed that things came to me

00:53:02.360 and I wasn't asking for them.

00:53:03.320 I was also taught by my parents like never ask for anything.

00:53:05.800 So there's some of that, 1.00

00:53:06.900 but I'd be lying here and full of shit. 0.99

00:53:09.240 There was definitely a part of me that'd be like, 0.99

00:53:10.920 ah, yes, XYZ reached out to me.

00:53:13.460 Like I liked it, it felt like I accomplished something.

00:53:16.060 I'm aware of that now.

00:53:18.340 Right.

00:53:20.360 Just a lot, like I really am so thankful

00:53:23.600 that I don't have a whole lot of ego,

00:53:25.000 but I would argue what I just said was grounded in,

00:53:27.740 I'd like to call it lightweight ego.

00:53:29.520 I enjoyed it.

00:53:30.400 It sneaks up on you.

00:53:31.240 But something really hit me.

00:53:33.200 So, Kobe.

00:53:36.120 So, Kobe passes and multiple people reach out to me

00:53:41.380 two or three weeks later saying that they were

00:53:44.440 in the process of reaching out to me

00:53:46.300 because in that window, in the last six months,

00:53:49.560 he started really liking my content

00:53:51.560 and thought I had, wanted to meet,

00:53:54.480 that it was gonna be fun for me.

00:53:55.540 One guy specifically that I know very well,

00:53:57.300 I went to Qatar with him before the World Cup,

00:53:58.860 like really was like, called me pretty emotional.

00:54:02.660 I was like, eight days ago we had the conversation

00:54:05.900 that was like, and I just remember thinking,

00:54:08.240 talk about somebody I really admire

00:54:09.560 because I'm so competitive.

00:54:11.220 And so everything he is as an athlete,

00:54:13.780 I understand cold, cold.

00:54:16.560 Competition is a framework of my life. 0.98

00:54:18.860 Like for all the foofy, be nice and all that stuff.

00:54:21.380 I'm an assassin. 1.00

00:54:22.420 I wanna kill all of you. 1.00

00:54:23.920 You know, like I'm just very- 1.00

00:54:25.620 That's getting clipped, for sure. 1.00

00:54:27.500 That shit's getting clipped. 0.99

00:54:29.140 Please clip that in context. 0.99

00:54:30.220 And going straight to TikTok.

00:54:31.940 And then he looked at me in big eyes and nodded.

00:54:34.700 You know that guy that clips up the podcast?

00:54:36.800 I slowly was like the guy that clips up the podcast.

00:54:39.640 I was like, no, be friends.

00:54:41.420 But you know, like honestly, like, you know,

00:54:43.980 the reality is is that I love being competitive.

00:54:47.060 And when I say that, it's like being on the field.

00:54:49.140 It's like sports, right?

00:54:49.860 You watch them, they like battle elbows,

00:54:51.760 want to kill each other. 0.97

00:54:52.840 Game's over, dap it. 0.99

00:54:54.000 Sometimes too much.

00:54:55.420 Because when you're a fan, you're pissed. 0.99

00:54:56.560 I'm like, don't fucking dap it. 0.97

00:54:57.680 Like, you know, but like, 0.88

00:54:58.720 and so I understand and love competition.

00:55:01.160 i admired that mindset that tenacity that accountability like i and he was also nice

00:55:07.400 so nice so like that's what like really fucks with me so anyway it happened and i get three

00:55:13.900 or four people and like within the first six to eight weeks of his passing tell me and i'm just 0.98

00:55:18.880 like man i'm such a fucking dick face right like like why why couldn't i have reached out and be 0.94

00:55:24.520 like hey really what you've done for these years it's really cool and then maybe we would have had 0.99

00:55:28.200 dinner and i would have that memory and so i've been actively you know i did it for kids on the

00:55:32.680 come up i did it i do it all i still do it there's nothing interesting i love doing it for oh wow i

00:55:39.420 do it i bet a bunch of kids are actually for this world a bunch of people like really because you

00:55:43.420 came out to me and i had 1800 people and i i love encouraging the kid i love it but when somebody's

00:55:49.320 like that person already i i haven't done that and i'm trying to do that more interesting so

00:55:55.000 You're literally not doing what you teach them to do.

00:55:59.080 That's exactly right.

00:56:00.040 That's what I'm saying.

00:56:00.460 Because you're wrestling with,

00:56:01.540 and it's not a bad product.

00:56:02.520 No, no, no.

00:56:03.020 It's literally just like,

00:56:04.260 it's your parents teaching you,

00:56:05.680 don't ask for something.

00:56:06.440 No, that's exactly right.

00:56:07.760 I thought I was doing the better version.

00:56:09.480 I was doing it for the people that needed it more.

00:56:11.860 Kobe doesn't need another person

00:56:13.320 saying he's the greatest.

00:56:14.180 I thought I was doing it for the person

00:56:15.720 to give them a push,

00:56:16.920 to give them a pump,

00:56:17.900 to help them,

00:56:18.720 to maybe answer a question they're dealing with.

00:56:20.300 And it was working.

00:56:21.640 I just wouldn't do it for somebody.

00:56:23.680 I'm so pumped that I DMed Roddy Rich now.

00:56:27.840 I'm pumped that's there.

00:56:28.940 I'm pumped that that DM sits in there.

00:56:30.660 What'd you say to Roddy? 1.00

00:56:31.780 I'd fuck with your shit. 1.00

00:56:35.320 We're trying to have him on the show. 1.00

00:56:37.200 I'm really good friends with Kifa.

00:56:38.720 I love it.

00:56:39.100 Exactly, yeah.

00:56:39.820 So I like that.

00:56:41.280 I'm trying to do more of that.

00:56:42.180 I'm pushing myself.

00:56:43.240 As far as maybe where you were going with that question

00:56:45.920 in a different direction,

00:56:47.520 I think everything is context.

00:56:49.400 I can know everything.

00:56:50.620 I mean, I can have a dinner right now with DRock

00:56:52.460 That's profoundly interesting because we've not traveled as much the last couple of years.

00:56:56.620 And even though I know all the foundational things and we know each other so well.

00:57:00.640 So for me, if somebody knows everything about me or I know everything about them, that has

00:57:04.340 nothing to do with the sit down and chopping it up because everything's contextual.

00:57:07.820 It's of this moment.

00:57:08.920 I agree.

00:57:09.880 Yeah, cool.

00:57:10.840 You're really good at living in the moment.

00:57:12.140 And I was going to ask how you maintain such a vast memory of all these tidbits of knowledge

00:57:20.920 that you have.

00:57:21.440 are you journaling are you constantly writing is it all off the dome all of it yeah i mean this is

00:57:27.200 back to here's a good one like you like you don't map out your speeches no i don't even know what i

00:57:32.060 i'm lucky that i barely knew we were even coming here just now like i don't even sometimes know

00:57:36.080 the next meeting i'm very bad at that so i have a lot of infrastructure this is something i think

00:57:40.200 a lot of people need to hear so they just stick you on stage and say go but it's it's less that

00:57:44.340 it's like i sometimes legitimately like most of the time i actually don't even know what my day

00:57:48.620 He's going to be like, I just look at the first meeting 0.94

00:57:50.600 and then like the next meeting is like, oh fuck, I got this. 0.98

00:57:52.800 Like, it's just like, you know, 0.99

00:57:54.860 cause it doesn't matter. I'm prepared.

00:57:56.780 Dude, are you my dad?

00:57:59.020 George, George, George didn't know.

00:58:02.380 He didn't know why he was in Puerto Rico.

00:58:04.760 We flew him here. He goes, what are we doing again?

00:58:06.680 I'm like, Gary Vaynerchuk is on the podcast.

00:58:08.960 My thing on the podcast is not coming prepared

00:58:10.800 because the audience might not know who you are.

00:58:13.040 Yeah, that's right.

00:58:13.480 So I want to, I want to get to know you.

00:58:15.360 I love that.

00:58:15.900 I think that's super smart.

00:58:17.480 Listen.

00:58:18.040 We cut you off.

00:58:18.960 I'm sorry.

00:58:20.200 So where are we going with that?

00:58:22.180 I was asking, do you prepare yourself?

00:58:24.040 How you memorize?

00:58:24.840 How you jot down your thoughts?

00:58:25.280 I want to say this

00:58:25.840 because I know this will bring value to people.

00:58:27.660 I think most people become fixated

00:58:29.920 at getting decent at something they're naturally bad at.

00:58:33.220 I'm obsessed with becoming the all-time insane version

00:58:37.320 of the things I was naturally good at.

00:58:39.640 So memory, unstoppable, and I use it.

00:58:43.140 And other things you can hire around

00:58:45.700 as you go up the ranks

00:58:47.400 or you can just punt it.

00:58:48.980 I punted a ton of things

00:58:50.500 that I wasn't,

00:58:51.920 I'll give you one,

00:58:52.840 blogging.

00:58:53.560 So I was right about e-com,

00:58:55.180 I was right about Google AdWords,

00:58:56.360 I was right about email

00:58:57.260 and here comes blogging in 2002

00:58:59.280 and like 2002 to 2004,

00:59:01.960 2005,

00:59:02.880 blogging.

00:59:03.500 Perez Hilton,

00:59:04.220 remember that?

00:59:04.840 It was blogging. 1.00

00:59:06.220 I can't write for shit. 1.00

00:59:07.520 You tried. 1.00

00:59:08.360 No.

00:59:09.100 I didn't even have to try.

00:59:10.020 I knew exactly how I wrote.

00:59:11.260 Why didn't you try?

00:59:13.040 Because you knew

00:59:13.500 he wasn't good at it.

00:59:14.520 Have you ever looked at some of the texts I've sent you?

00:59:16.180 I have no capability of putting.

00:59:18.200 Every single day you text us men with an exclamation point.

00:59:22.940 I swear to God, that's not a joke.

00:59:24.600 He goes, he got men.

00:59:26.280 Men?

00:59:27.160 That's it.

00:59:28.460 It's me and a few other guys.

00:59:29.620 Like, what do you want?

00:59:31.060 I want to know what you're good. 1.00

00:59:32.720 Men.

00:59:33.160 I want to know what you're good.

00:59:34.420 Is that what it means?

00:59:35.640 You know, it's exactly what it means.

00:59:36.860 We were just talking about it.

00:59:37.780 When I got off stage, they're going to be like, oh, so like V-Friend Series 2 just unveiled.

00:59:42.060 I know.

00:59:42.580 and I was when I got off the stage I was trying to catch up before we got here on the way here

00:59:46.600 and it was funny they were all saying like Dio great job by the way Dio said hey I need to know

00:59:52.020 what's going on with the project because I guarantee the second he gets off stage he's

00:59:55.740 gonna ask and then one of the guys on team Tyler I think uh said no he's yeah how's vibes how's

01:00:02.780 vibes with my team is men with me you Kalish Banks like I just for me I just want to know

01:00:09.240 the following thing at all times are you good is there anything i can do for you it's my natural

01:00:15.060 state my mom is that that's how i became it like are you good is there anything i can do yeah yeah

01:00:20.820 it's my favorite feeling i love it i'm so good and so i'm so i feel guilty and grateful that i'm so

01:00:28.520 good that all i want to do is make you good i appreciate that it's a good feeling like listen

01:00:34.700 for everybody who's watching right now

01:00:35.940 or listening

01:00:36.340 if you're good 0.99

01:00:37.360 fucking it's our 0.99

01:00:39.140 for everybody who's happy 0.99

01:00:40.500 it's our responsibility to help

01:00:42.840 because right now

01:00:43.860 negativity is very good at marketing

01:00:46.080 negativity is very loud

01:00:47.660 negativity is very viral

01:00:49.660 the problem with positivity

01:00:51.200 is you can be dismissive

01:00:52.820 you're not affected 1.00

01:00:54.120 you're shit 1.00

01:00:55.080 you suck 1.00

01:00:55.660 the world sucks 1.00

01:00:56.260 you're just fucking iron 1.00

01:00:57.540 and you can move on 1.00

01:00:58.780 I think you have to be an active participant 0.98

01:01:00.900 if you're that fucking lucky 0.97

01:01:02.420 and I take on that responsibility heavy 0.99

01:01:05.000 Do it as a Jets fan.

01:01:06.520 Think about that.

01:01:07.560 I mean, you punted a lot of things that you're bad at, man. 0.99

01:01:10.460 And I cannot imagine the fact that you are still sitting in those fucking Jet seats. 0.99

01:01:16.340 How do you do that? 0.99

01:01:17.980 Not only that, tomorrow morning when I fly back, it's going to be, what, a Wednesday?

01:01:21.900 Thursday's the draft.

01:01:23.600 I am like sweating thinking, are we going to take Icky?

01:01:26.460 Do we take Sauce? 0.89

01:01:27.580 Like, I'm fucking obsessed about Thursday and Friday. 0.99

01:01:29.960 I got all this shit going on. 0.98

01:01:31.460 And I'm like, Thursday, we're going to take these college kids. 0.99

01:01:33.280 and if they don't save my life, I'm going to be pissed.

01:01:34.840 That was the first place I ever met you

01:01:36.700 was at a Jets game, with Sean Nelson

01:01:38.740 from Love Sack. Be honest, do you have any

01:01:40.860 remembering of Mike Malak

01:01:42.800 meeting for the first time? Ready for this?

01:01:45.460 Two, we were 14.

01:01:47.220 You guys were three rows in front of us. 0.99

01:01:49.960 What's going on with your brain, 1.00

01:01:51.200 dude? How do you remember shit like that? 1.00

01:01:53.220 How would you remember? I was like, dude, that's 0.99

01:01:54.960 Gary Vee, and this was like 2015.

01:01:57.480 But do you remember him?

01:01:58.840 Sean Nelson, come on, that's the CEO of Love Sack,

01:02:00.800 but Mike, the druggie at the time?

01:02:02.940 I was not a druggie.

01:02:04.700 I don't know if you've caught up with him.

01:02:07.060 So there's two things that go huge for me.

01:02:08.960 Faces, like dominant. 0.96

01:02:11.760 Like I'm fucking like clear when it comes to face. 0.95

01:02:14.720 You know, clear the thing in the airport. 0.97

01:02:17.140 That's me.

01:02:17.880 I'm like human clear when it comes to faces.

01:02:19.880 That thing is impressive.

01:02:20.880 Also, Mike's a very memorable person.

01:02:23.140 Yeah, but it was chill.

01:02:24.080 It was quick.

01:02:24.480 It was before kickoff.

01:02:25.600 But I remember it vividly.

01:02:26.680 That's exactly what it was.

01:02:28.040 Three rows.

01:02:28.840 Like I can remember things like that very, very, very well.

01:02:31.700 You're the rain man.

01:02:32.440 in those

01:02:33.320 but on the Jets front right

01:02:38.040 this is actually real right now

01:02:39.740 one of the reasons I have so much compassion

01:02:41.580 is I'm so bitter as a sports fan

01:02:44.400 between the Jets and the Knicks

01:02:45.900 there is no question in my life

01:02:48.440 that like I am the least

01:02:50.380 version of myself in

01:02:52.160 those settings I am

01:02:54.160 out of control at Jet Games I hate

01:02:56.360 people I want to fight

01:02:57.840 I want to I've done

01:02:59.860 i've been my worst self at football stadiums and so it makes me realize wait a minute

01:03:05.900 people who are not happy can lose control and have bad behavior i hate patriot fans for real

01:03:13.480 that's called envy oh it's interesting you use these moments of uh out of character to relate

01:03:21.140 when you are this gary to the people who are stuck in that state interesting that that became the

01:03:27.820 connection point where I'm like I get this

01:03:30.000 you're unhappy in real life I'm unhappy

01:03:32.080 in this sports life so I get it

01:03:34.320 so I get because I really mean it

01:03:36.260 like no like this is not for show like

01:03:37.960 at a Jets game I'm unhappy

01:03:39.680 are you a liability

01:03:41.300 to the Jets to the fans

01:03:43.700 to yourself to society there's this

01:03:46.040 great moment I wish my friends were here I'll tell

01:03:47.940 the story but I never really tell my bad Jets stories

01:03:50.000 because they're bad there was

01:03:51.280 this is a typical Gary move

01:03:53.860 Steelers travel well

01:03:57.800 so when the Steelers play the Jets

01:03:59.700 half the stadium is Steelers

01:04:00.980 so for some miraculous reason

01:04:04.340 during a bad Jets season

01:04:05.700 seven years ago

01:04:06.500 we decide we're going to beat the Steelers

01:04:08.100 so we're going to win the game

01:04:09.080 they've got their towels

01:04:10.240 we're going to win the game

01:04:11.600 it's wrapping up

01:04:12.580 the game's over

01:04:13.180 five minutes left

01:04:14.300 we're up by three touches

01:04:15.140 we won

01:04:15.540 this 80 year old dude

01:04:17.380 is walking up

01:04:18.220 like the steps

01:04:21.120 to go to his seat

01:04:22.040 and I stand up

01:04:22.920 and I go

01:04:23.300 sit down old man 0.94

01:04:25.960 you're finished 0.96

01:04:27.140 right 1.00

01:04:27.640 like just pissed, like sit the fuck down old man, 0.99

01:04:31.420 you're finished, right? 0.99

01:04:33.400 And I sit down and everyone like, you know,

01:04:36.060 there's a lot of season ticket holders that sit with me

01:04:38.100 and they're kind of like, they love me

01:04:39.440 because I defend us, but sometimes I go too far

01:04:41.780 and they're embarrassed and this would be a step too far

01:04:44.000 and they're embarrassed and then like,

01:04:47.040 Lou turns to me and goes, everyone's a little upset

01:04:50.820 that I did that because he's a very nice old man.

01:04:53.020 There's no reason to do that.

01:04:54.520 He's a worker at the stadium.

01:04:56.140 No, no, he's a Steelers fan.

01:04:57.600 He's got the Super Bowl jacket.

01:04:58.680 He's walking.

01:04:59.580 And Lou turns to me and goes,

01:05:00.980 and everyone's upset.

01:05:02.080 And Lou goes,

01:05:03.320 man, I wish everybody knew what you actually meant.

01:05:06.660 And I'm like, I know.

01:05:08.020 Because I meant you're about to die.

01:05:10.020 Not that you're a Steelers fan.

01:05:12.880 I'm like, sit down.

01:05:13.920 You're finished in life.

01:05:15.340 Not the Jets-Steelers game.

01:05:18.060 I've hip-checked.

01:05:19.520 The Jets lost to the Patriots 10 years ago. 0.94

01:05:24.700 You really are an assassin.

01:05:25.720 i was 36 this 12 year old kid's walking by me after the game i hip check him into this in a 12 1.00

01:05:32.140 year old boy i'm 36 years old i hip check him into the cage his dad turns i'm like the fuck 0.99

01:05:37.640 are you gonna do that like i get crazy oh your liability is that the one thing that you would 0.99

01:05:42.360 ask for before before you die would be a jet super bowl that's why i'm gonna buy them and win 0.99

01:05:47.080 one i'm not even like letting it be up for chance i'm gonna take care of this shit myself 0.98

01:05:51.220 i believe you that's crazy we got crazy we got close to the nft shit and we clearly have to do 0.94

01:05:58.200 this like he's got his open co well you said because you said v friends too uh unveiled and 0.77

01:06:02.320 i i realized i hadn't looked at him yet because i pulled mine up i'm an investor v friends i got a

01:06:06.900 i got a good one i got the harpik i know d-rock's favorite it's the only character in all of v

01:06:14.480 friends that is made up it doesn't exist which is why i bought it can't wait to see what you do

01:06:18.900 with it gary so so um where do we even start with this the nft space started popping off yes early

01:06:26.640 last year yes um you similar to the pokemon thing urged i do my research and there's an infamous

01:06:33.060 call yes that we had yep and i see clips of it going viral online it was a crypto punks call

01:06:39.600 yeah beast was on a casey nice that was on and we loaded up on crypto punks and since then

01:06:44.380 you have continued to consume in the space and educate yourself in the space and then create in

01:06:50.860 the space which is kind of a similar journey to what i've done yes and i'm wondering what about

01:06:57.260 the nft space made you feel the same way that you felt about social media back in the day

01:07:01.960 humans need to communicate it's a core thing and i believe that more than speaking more than

01:07:10.000 writing more than singing the number way number one way that human beings communicate is by buying

01:07:17.480 things really yeah look at what you're wearing right now i can't believe it by the way bro

01:07:25.120 what you're wearing by the way i've already talked about holy shawl so it looks like a

01:07:31.120 scooby-doo try like three grand right he looks like he's about to fight crime here's what's 0.97

01:07:35.820 profound about it four years ago if he saw someone wearing this he would take a total shit on that 0.89

01:07:42.260 person today it's him communicating a lens of creativity a lens of wealth it could be that's 0.75

01:07:50.680 exactly right so why i bring that up if you look around like what everyone's wearing and what like

01:07:55.840 it's humans communicate through what they buy fashion is a gadrillion dollar industry

01:08:01.220 a gadrillion dollar industry is that a real thing the word you're saying

01:08:05.020 We make it work because we're confident

01:08:13.400 that we won't get the right work out.

01:08:16.360 It is one of the biggest industries in the world.

01:08:18.360 We all buy sneakers and t-shirts and hoodies and hats

01:08:21.500 and all sorts of things that really cost four bucks

01:08:24.480 and nine bucks and 22 bucks.

01:08:26.660 And we spend 2,000, 3,000, 5,000

01:08:29.040 because that's how people communicate.

01:08:30.720 They communicate in reverse too.

01:08:32.820 People dress down when they get wealthy.

01:08:34.360 it's not just

01:08:36.020 people are like oh yeah I'm just going to show you rich

01:08:38.220 that's not true at all it goes the other way

01:08:39.580 the way people wear their hair their facial hair

01:08:42.120 there's a million ways to communicate

01:08:43.820 because of what you buy

01:08:45.280 I thought social media was going to be huge

01:08:47.520 because I thought people were going to use pictures to communicate

01:08:49.400 and I ended up being more right than I even thought

01:08:51.440 it became the framework

01:08:52.780 I think NFTs are going to be that

01:08:56.560 for our society

01:08:57.280 and it has a utilitarian value

01:08:59.740 it is the biggest technology shift

01:09:01.640 since the internet

01:09:02.480 the blockchain the consumer blockchain is the biggest new thing since the internet itself and

01:09:07.500 more importantly here's why everyone's fucking it up everyone's thinking about it like it's the

01:09:11.920 internet which is why they don't understand it when the joke the big joke of well i'll just 0.77

01:09:17.680 right click and save it it's a jpeg ha ha ha is when people are basically turning into their

01:09:24.120 mothers what i mean by that is all the same kids that made fun of their parents for not having an

01:09:29.280 iPhone when they had a Blackberry or for not having older my generation not like most parents

01:09:34.260 wouldn't do email they were scared or buying things online or all those things watching a

01:09:39.600 bunch of 20 and 30 year olds that think they're cool that think they're dominating that think 0.97

01:09:43.860 they're winning shit on NFTs makes me smile because I'm like if these people knew that they 0.99

01:09:49.740 had just turned into their parents they'd be devastated they are demonizing a new clear 0.98

01:09:54.380 technology because of a lack of interest to do the work i will i will no for sure i will i will

01:10:02.220 play the the other side and this and this comes as a as a avid investor yeah please i've spent a ton

01:10:07.400 of money on them i believe that there has you know also been a tremendous irresponsibility within the

01:10:15.140 nft creation community to drive that belief set i couldn't agree with right and so it's and that

01:10:20.420 sucks and we've talked about that irresponsibility

01:10:22.600 a lot in the show rug pulls 1.00

01:10:24.380 shit projects abandoning road 0.98

01:10:26.680 maps and so it's 0.99

01:10:28.060 but that happens with everything

01:10:30.500 for sure right bad actors

01:10:32.280 especially when a lot of money's in play

01:10:34.500 this is exact this is

01:10:36.340 I can't wait you know it's funny

01:10:38.440 my whole life I feared getting older because I love life

01:10:40.600 and I want to live forever but I

01:10:42.220 I'd be lying if I didn't say oh I see

01:10:44.660 there's some cool stuff to this I actually can't

01:10:46.780 wait to chop it up in 20 years

01:10:48.480 when you guys 15 years when you guys are this

01:10:50.360 and I'm the next version.

01:10:51.800 I'm gonna be like, see the patterns,

01:10:53.220 you see them again.

01:10:54.500 When I was 22, the internet was doing this.

01:10:57.980 We had internet companies like pets.com

01:11:00.160 worth $17 billion doing $0 in revenue.

01:11:05.520 So this bad behavior that we're seeing now

01:11:07.500 from influencers and a lot of the insecure people

01:11:10.360 that want a quick bag,

01:11:11.600 people are ruining the,

01:11:12.500 if the kids that are making a million dollars

01:11:15.660 in rug pulled realized how all the A players

01:11:18.060 are talking about them,

01:11:19.220 they'd be devastated.

01:11:20.080 They're 22, they're scamming people.

01:11:22.720 They're pumped because they have a million bucks right now 1.00

01:11:24.440 and they bought a cool, fat place in the fucking hills. 0.99

01:11:26.800 And meanwhile, all the players that actually matter 0.99

01:11:29.300 have just eliminated them from any consideration

01:11:31.640 to do business with them.

01:11:32.440 Moving forward, yeah.

01:11:33.640 It's over.

01:11:34.220 What about this type of mindset?

01:11:35.460 So this is what always happens.

01:11:37.120 It's what happens, let me just finish.

01:11:38.540 No, no, please, man.

01:11:38.840 You know, influencers, there's bad influencers too.

01:11:41.460 Brand deals, oh, they're ruining it.

01:11:43.520 It works itself out.

01:11:44.500 Right now, your statement is exactly right.

01:11:47.300 one of the biggest reasons

01:11:48.920 that people are confused about this

01:11:51.200 is there's bad acting

01:11:52.220 the problem is

01:11:53.260 before there was bad acting

01:11:54.660 because bad acting

01:11:56.700 is a nine month phenomenon

01:11:57.820 not an 18 month phenomenon

01:11:59.180 before there was bad acting

01:12:00.600 everybody still said the same thing 1.00

01:12:01.980 people don't like new shit 0.99

01:12:03.660 look at TikTok 0.99

01:12:04.220 you guys lived through this

01:12:05.360 no we were the people 1.00

01:12:06.940 we were the fucking people 1.00

01:12:08.240 I am ashamed 0.99

01:12:10.200 I saw you raving about TikTok

01:12:12.920 we'd come on this exact podcast 1.00

01:12:15.120 and go fuck that platform 1.00

01:12:16.900 It's for kids dancing to music 1.00

01:12:18.780 Who cares

01:12:19.360 It's weird

01:12:20.180 It doesn't make any sense

01:12:20.940 Nah I'm a TikToker

01:12:22.480 You know what it is

01:12:23.220 You know what it is

01:12:24.820 Guys

01:12:25.100 Academy Award

01:12:25.860 I'm telling you

01:12:26.720 That's not all

01:12:27.380 This is a lock

01:12:28.120 Dude just a bunch of 1.00

01:12:29.360 Underage girls 1.00

01:12:30.260 No 1.00

01:12:30.740 You know

01:12:31.300 TikTok's algorithmic

01:12:32.460 So if that's what you're seeing

01:12:33.500 I don't get on it

01:12:34.480 You seek help

01:12:35.080 I don't get on it

01:12:35.740 Seek help

01:12:36.580 So here's what I need to ask you

01:12:38.080 About this NFT

01:12:38.800 Because TikTok is dead to me

01:12:40.100 I can never do it

01:12:41.060 Mind you

01:12:42.420 Mind you

01:12:42.760 It might be a downfall of mine

01:12:44.620 But I will not

01:12:45.420 It's not about a downfall

01:12:45.940 I will not do anything

01:12:46.760 I'm not proud of

01:12:47.600 and I'm not proud of TikTok.

01:12:48.360 But why don't you make content

01:12:49.340 that's not dancing?

01:12:50.420 There's so many people on the app 0.99

01:12:51.300 that make incredible fucking content. 0.99

01:12:52.820 Let's talk about this. 0.99

01:12:53.380 Ready?

01:12:53.660 Yeah.

01:12:54.300 But you make Instagram?

01:12:55.560 No.

01:12:56.300 So what do you make?

01:12:57.260 I literally,

01:12:58.200 these three things

01:12:58.940 that I'm focusing on right now

01:13:00.100 is I'm finishing up this movie

01:13:01.840 that I'm doing.

01:13:02.160 Love.

01:13:02.720 Podcast, stand-up.

01:13:04.100 And I realize

01:13:04.700 that spreading myself too thin 0.94

01:13:06.560 fucks me up.

01:13:07.600 So me doing this on TikTok. 0.97

01:13:09.160 Well, that's different.

01:13:09.920 You know that's different.

01:13:10.840 That's just judging

01:13:11.540 what's inside of it.

01:13:12.960 That's like somebody doing stand-up 0.98

01:13:14.820 but they suck at it. 0.70

01:13:15.700 like what is inside the bucket is different than if the bucket has validity of it of its attention 0.98

01:13:22.740 that it's in it so like what you fill it with is different which is why i asked because if you were

01:13:27.820 like no i i do instagram i'm like those are just empty vessels it's the same thing to your point

01:13:32.180 you've taken a philosophical and a self-awareness framework game and said you know what this is

01:13:38.100 where all this is happening for me what works is i'm going to play in the kind of like real world

01:13:43.420 right and it's gonna work for me and that's awesome can i tell you why i made the decision

01:13:47.260 please uh on facebook i absolutely crushed it up my videos are doing 30 million 20 million on skits

01:13:52.960 yeah and uh nothing came from it like it was gone the next three months so i made a promise

01:13:59.480 and avowed on myself like yo i will not touch anything i'm not absolutely proud i would that's

01:14:03.720 your fault i would i would argue yeah i would argue and i would also i'd love first of all i

01:14:08.380 would love to have a proper dinner and go like three four hours deep i think you'd be surprised

01:14:13.140 how much came from it.

01:14:14.700 I just need to know everything

01:14:15.640 that has happened in your life.

01:14:16.860 Because I think what we do

01:14:18.120 is we're too literal

01:14:19.140 and you were in the show business game.

01:14:21.120 LA's framework on this is the worst.

01:14:23.420 Oh, I didn't get a thing from this.

01:14:24.700 I didn't make a movie from this.

01:14:26.020 It's so transactional.

01:14:27.780 The LA vibe is so transactional.

01:14:30.440 I would argue potentially

01:14:32.120 I've got to learn the whole story,

01:14:33.380 which is why I need four hours.

01:14:34.880 I bet you when we're done with that,

01:14:37.220 I might argue that everything happened

01:14:38.900 because of it.

01:14:39.640 Me?

01:14:40.280 And I'm down to actually hear that out.

01:14:41.760 Yeah, we'll chop it.

01:14:42.300 but can I ask you the NFT thing

01:14:43.680 because I know there's a few people

01:14:44.820 that are watching it

01:14:45.380 that are on the same boat.

01:14:46.580 I never really talk about it

01:14:47.400 because I truly don't care about it

01:14:49.100 and that's the lack of knowledge.

01:14:51.060 No, it's not.

01:14:51.840 That's like not caring.

01:14:54.040 This goes back to

01:14:55.000 detaching yourself from personal opinion.

01:14:57.180 I don't think I like anything.

01:14:59.180 I like the Jets.

01:15:00.480 Tag sales.

01:15:01.680 Yeah, I do like garage sales.

01:15:03.220 But like when people

01:15:05.880 like one thing that I see a lot

01:15:07.660 definitely in this genre

01:15:09.360 of like popular culture

01:15:10.560 which you guys play in heavy

01:15:11.520 it that's amazing like like you don't like it that's good that has nothing to do with

01:15:17.880 is it something or can it be beneficial for you to raise awareness for a non-profit

01:15:23.460 or to do business or he's good he's good at that so this is what i was gonna kind of tack on

01:15:28.200 my biggest strength on earth that's where i'm where i'm at today is i learn not from my mistakes

01:15:33.920 from other people's mistakes i'd watch somebody touch the fire and i'm like wow he just burned

01:15:37.940 the fuck out of himself it's why you're good at stand-up so i don't i would rather hand back for 0.99

01:15:43.420 five years just just watch all these clowns do you know for a fact he's good have you seen him 0.99

01:15:47.620 ever no i don't know you tweeted out that i was amazing well don't take my word for it i'm just

01:15:51.980 saying how do we know he wears that shirt i really should i love that shirt but he's definitely

01:15:57.320 saying something which is like hey artsy friends be my friend be my friend please is that a bad

01:16:04.820 outlook and is is that me being my mom and dad being like yo let me just hang back for five years

01:16:10.040 and see what what they're doing it's really funny my take especially like nuances from afar and now

01:16:17.920 some energy together my take is that's an interesting framework for you because you're

01:16:21.940 so intuitively strong it shouldn't take you that long i think you're self-aware too so that means

01:16:28.480 like i jump into everything first just like you walk into the room and you'll never waver the

01:16:34.700 all my friends are like why are you jumping into nfts you've you've left so much money on a table

01:16:39.180 to protect your reputation this thing could be crazy i'm like you don't understand the blockchain

01:16:43.120 gary what's the roadmap utility for series two i don't need to tell you yet i know every single

01:16:49.380 person right this second that has any one of those 55 555 and in four years i might decide

01:16:55.420 to do something and then i'm gonna bring value you you you feel confident saying that i feel

01:17:00.960 unstoppably confident why in a world where everyone wants instant gratification and a return on their

01:17:06.520 investment and i think that and i saw a video from you today on twitter that seemed like they

01:17:10.320 were starting to demand that did you they are right i'm not gonna waver to them right i have

01:17:16.040 no interest in appeasing my discord on the floor price so my job is to build a project for the next

01:17:20.680 55 years the reasons i actually predict some of the most unhappy people in the next two years in

01:17:26.360 popular culture are owners of nft projects because it's not sustainable to try to appease

01:17:31.800 your discord when everybody has their own self-interest and money in mind but you can't

01:17:36.880 help it because you're seeing it every second and you can't waver and most of the people running

01:17:40.080 projects right now it's their first rodeo they're young and they don't know how to handle it yeah

01:17:45.220 i'm i'm struggling a little bit with this because a lot of the stuff that i i'm learning more about

01:17:50.500 myself as a creative and executioner and i'm finding i'm much better at the creative than i

01:17:55.080 am at execution you've seen it with some of my saying i've been saying it to you forever and 0.86

01:17:58.640 you're a creative juggernaut but you're not a coo i'm not i'm not by the way by the way had a call 0.93

01:18:05.440 with a potential coo today we i'm like holy shit this is the gap i i need i need this i need this 0.91

01:18:10.660 playlist of things yes i did yes and and and um i'm having a little trouble with this because 0.72

01:18:18.020 you know in this space as you know everyone wants that 100x tomorrow listen you you you know this

01:18:23.960 i've told you this you've got some projects that i can't wait for you to make whole yeah because

01:18:29.120 you can and you know and and and i'm and i'm going to in a big way but this is just the microcosm of

01:18:34.800 japan i i know you will you and and you need to give brain power to what that will be it's done

01:18:44.020 great it's done i'm in execution phase but but but still it's like there's a which there's a

01:18:50.380 stench that comes in this world

01:18:51.860 and people love to put that on you.

01:18:53.800 People over promise.

01:18:55.680 Like if you tell everybody,

01:18:57.660 I do it,

01:18:58.560 but I say the same thing every time.

01:19:00.920 In the next seven,

01:19:02.440 13,

01:19:03.320 25 years,

01:19:04.620 V Friends is going to be dominant.

01:19:06.720 So I can't appease you this week.

01:19:09.680 Right, right.

01:19:10.240 You're talking to long-term holders.

01:19:11.920 You don't want,

01:19:12.320 did you intentionally not provide a roadmap

01:19:14.380 on the front end of V2?

01:19:15.960 On V2,

01:19:17.140 yes,

01:19:17.640 because I knew what I wanted to,

01:19:19.080 V2 was very simple.

01:19:20.160 V1 was, I am gonna build Disney or Pokemon

01:19:23.000 over the next 55 years 0.99

01:19:24.520 and I need to draw these fucking characters 0.99

01:19:26.620 because I want it to be authentic to me. 1.00

01:19:27.980 This is my fucking thing. 0.99

01:19:29.860 And yes, I know that my drawings 0.99

01:19:31.140 are not gonna be as good as a great artist

01:19:33.200 that I could have hired,

01:19:34.740 but it was important to me.

01:19:35.740 It came out of my brain.

01:19:37.120 I was off the grid.

01:19:38.420 I decided that I want this character

01:19:40.220 to be the generous gerbil.

01:19:42.620 That's what I want.

01:19:43.680 Does it bother you when people critique the art?

01:19:45.460 Of course not.

01:19:47.720 Do you know that Kevin Rose told me the other day

01:19:49.520 That when the canvas was invented

01:19:51.700 All the art community said

01:19:53.720 Real art can only be on a building

01:19:55.920 What?

01:19:57.360 How about that?

01:19:58.080 But that's another example of exactly what we're talking about

01:20:01.140 Andy Warhol and Jackson Pollock

01:20:04.180 Is not art

01:20:05.800 Graffiti

01:20:06.400 I'm 46

01:20:08.520 We got Alec Monopoly in the house

01:20:09.900 Sitting right there

01:20:10.940 This is very meta

01:20:13.640 I grew up in Jersey

01:20:16.360 In like an urban jersey

01:20:19.480 when in the 80s

01:20:21.900 when all I heard

01:20:23.060 the two things that I thought

01:20:24.180 were the coolest

01:20:25.000 at 12 years old

01:20:26.040 was rap

01:20:27.160 and graffiti

01:20:28.100 I was like 0.99

01:20:29.140 this is just cool shit 0.99

01:20:30.220 I'd go visit my grandma in Queens 0.99

01:20:31.600 and be like 1.00

01:20:31.880 oh this is the fucking real shit 1.00

01:20:33.040 you know like 1.00

01:20:33.360 you'd see it 0.99

01:20:34.080 I thought it was the fucking best 0.98

01:20:35.420 and all I heard 0.98

01:20:36.580 at 14, 15, 17, 19

01:20:38.580 when grown ups were around

01:20:40.180 was

01:20:40.660 hip hop's not real music

01:20:42.280 oh yeah of course 0.99

01:20:43.120 it's a fad 0.97

01:20:43.760 yeah for sure

01:20:44.300 graffiti 1.00

01:20:44.860 is a fucking terror on society 1.00

01:20:47.040 I'm like really 1.00

01:20:47.980 this shit's the best 1.00

01:20:48.980 all the way to Senate. 1.00

01:20:49.820 There were senators.

01:20:50.640 And now, and video games?

01:20:53.260 Are you kidding me?

01:20:54.340 Video games were like, 1.00

01:20:55.180 this is the stupidest shit of all time. 1.00

01:20:56.880 I'm like, weird. 1.00

01:20:57.720 Every one of my friends just wants to do it 24 seven, 360.

01:21:00.660 So like, I just have always thought that way.

01:21:04.080 And so for me, that's just how I see things.

01:21:06.400 And so this blockchain thing,

01:21:08.800 the blockchain is such a big deal.

01:21:10.960 Like that's the,

01:21:12.240 and hip hop I think has changed the world. 0.59

01:21:14.260 Graffiti is a profound art form

01:21:16.400 with all due respect to those two things,

01:21:17.940 which are phenomenally massive. 0.99

01:21:20.760 Fucking blockchain is fucking internet level big. 1.00

01:21:23.780 Yeah. 1.00

01:21:24.140 Yeah.

01:21:24.380 I was going to say that might be,

01:21:25.240 that might be the biggest,

01:21:26.060 most recent like a shift in human technology that we've had.

01:21:31.760 And I think on the NFT front,

01:21:32.980 it taps into a lot more of like why we have to have like the NFT part taps

01:21:37.560 into so much EQ,

01:21:39.580 not just IQ.

01:21:40.820 And I don't think people are seeing it,

01:21:42.220 but it's why it happened.

01:21:43.160 I mean,

01:21:43.660 I literally,

01:21:45.040 again,

01:21:45.720 you know,

01:21:45.900 I keep pointing to D rock cause he was there when this is happening.

01:21:47.940 I literally told them that,

01:21:49.840 I didn't know it was gonna be called Bored Ape Yacht Club,

01:21:51.860 but I literally told them, 0.97

01:21:52.720 I'm like, somebody's gonna be the Nike, the Yeezys, the Kith. 0.98

01:21:55.740 I kept saying Kith, I think. 0.99

01:21:56.680 I'm like, somebody's gonna, like, I knew I wasn't, 1.00

01:21:59.080 because I wasn't going for that.

01:21:59.960 I was going for more Pokemon, Disney. 0.99

01:22:01.760 I'm like, somebody's gonna come in here and build Kith, 1.00

01:22:03.960 and Bored Ape Yacht Club. 1.00

01:22:05.180 Out of control. 0.99

01:22:06.180 Bored Ape Yacht Club is Kith, it's Kith. 1.00

01:22:09.240 Now, to those, you know, I'm an investor, I'm a fan guy, 0.81

01:22:11.860 I was serious, my guy,

01:22:12.860 I met a couple of the founders very early

01:22:15.100 when Bored Ape was a week or two old.

01:22:16.660 I'd cheer for them heavy,

01:22:17.560 I hope they win. 1.00

01:22:18.400 How many apes do you have? 0.99

01:22:19.200 Seven. 1.00

01:22:20.560 I feel for those guys 0.99

01:22:24.160 because it's hard as fuck. 0.99

01:22:25.660 Hell yeah. 1.00

01:22:26.440 Heavy lies the crown.

01:22:27.980 Yeah, exactly.

01:22:29.940 They're going to have the biggest challenge. 1.00

01:22:31.820 Staying Kith, staying Palace. 1.00

01:22:34.020 Look at Supreme. 0.98

01:22:34.760 But they've done a very good job.

01:22:37.620 Amazing.

01:22:38.120 Because remember when they were up against punks

01:22:39.840 and the floor was right there

01:22:41.820 and it was a competition almost?

01:22:43.100 They're amazing.

01:22:44.660 They're a year old. 0.58

01:22:46.180 Crazy.

01:22:46.580 Right, it feels like 600,000 years.

01:22:49.040 Like, they are, I have a lot of respect for that team.

01:22:51.360 Guy's been doing it from Madonna to now.

01:22:53.460 Like, they'll do it, but honestly,

01:22:55.660 I'm more comfortable building VFriends marathon life

01:22:59.860 like that game, because when you build on pure cool, 1.00

01:23:03.080 you've got to fuck, I mean, look at, 1.00

01:23:05.020 I mean, it's really hard. 1.00

01:23:06.980 Will you release?

01:23:07.580 See, Cavaricis were the coolest pants

01:23:10.000 when I was in high school in the 90s.

01:23:11.420 Don't tell me this.

01:23:12.160 I just spent a lot of money, a lot of money on an ape.

01:23:15.740 You should.

01:23:16.420 no like a tremendous amount

01:23:18.120 you should

01:23:18.860 but the floor went up

01:23:19.980 before he eats

01:23:20.900 not quite

01:23:21.420 not quite

01:23:21.960 it's not supernatural

01:23:23.360 it's it's

01:23:24.300 there's a bot

01:23:25.120 not

01:23:25.520 it's not a bot

01:23:26.300 it's the land thing

01:23:27.720 that's correct

01:23:28.320 other

01:23:28.680 listen

01:23:30.600 anytime before an airdrop

01:23:31.840 listen first of all

01:23:32.640 everybody who's listening

01:23:33.580 these are big numbers

01:23:34.540 everyone who's listening

01:23:35.680 everyone who's listening

01:23:36.780 even if it's $30

01:23:38.300 do it on Solana

01:23:40.560 which is a great platform

01:23:41.800 Cordano

01:23:42.260 like there's other places

01:23:43.200 ETH has gas

01:23:43.960 so it gets expensive

01:23:44.660 every person 0.99

01:23:45.720 if you listen to this fucking remarkable 0.99

01:23:47.940 pop culture current 0.99

01:23:49.800 state of society show and you've

01:23:51.780 not yet bought an NFT

01:23:53.200 you're doing a big disservice to yourself 0.98

01:23:55.780 whether you end up giving a fuck about 0.96

01:23:57.800 NFTs or not you have to learn what 0.89

01:23:59.800 the blockchain's about because it's going to affect

01:24:01.920 your life you're too young

01:24:03.420 you have too much ambition if you're watching this

01:24:05.420 you're too in it

01:24:07.200 you're not going to be able to get into Coachella in four years 1.00

01:24:09.680 without it because it's going to be a fucking ticket to fucking Coachella 0.99

01:24:11.780 I tried to buy the Coachella NFTs 0.99

01:24:13.760 oh they had one this year?

01:24:14.600 and no matter what happens you don't want to be a Facebook mom

01:24:18.020 you know the moms that found out about Facebook

01:24:20.140 12 years later and they're like how do you do

01:24:22.040 the like button that's going to be

01:24:24.060 George

01:24:24.580 he's going to try to buy

01:24:28.160 Eve

01:24:28.560 but he's not going to be able to

01:24:30.960 I was going to say

01:24:33.160 do you plan on releasing a V Friends

01:24:36.200 V3

01:24:37.100 yes but not

01:24:38.840 I have too much inventory in the system now I have book games

01:24:41.960 I have V1 I have V2

01:24:43.220 v2 and you can see how i did it i needed to establish the ip so i could make the video

01:24:47.940 games so i could make the you know clothing so i could make the candy the cereal the the trading

01:24:54.340 cards i needed to convert my sketches into what you're seeing right now now i'm good now i don't

01:25:00.420 have a need for a series three now i need to spend the next chunk of 24 36 months to get people to 0.99

01:25:07.200 give a fuck about rare robot to give a fuck about the patient pig to give a fuck about the three 0.99

01:25:12.320 horned harpick i gotta sign kids book deals i gotta do iphone can i be honest with you of course 1.00

01:25:16.600 all right so i'm your friend yeah uh i've known you for a while and uh sometimes when i come up

01:25:21.960 with these crazy ideas and i pitch it to my friends they don't completely get it but they

01:25:27.800 believe so much in me they're like sure do your thing and i get v friends and i believe in you

01:25:33.020 but i definitely think probably similar to the way people reacted when you were first getting

01:25:38.100 into wine or like pivoting into any any industry yeah it is a bit hard for people to digest that

01:25:45.280 you want to and are going to be the next walt disney i get it and by the way nobody should 0.58

01:25:51.600 take that serious because it's walt fucking disney yeah but i'm gonna try 0.76

01:25:55.840 i believe i i think you'll do it i think you'll do it like to me to me i don't see it being that 0.94

01:26:02.860 Hard

01:26:03.860 I mean

01:26:04.120 Oh I'm sorry

01:26:05.320 George

01:26:06.080 No no here's the reason

01:26:07.220 Remember he says

01:26:08.080 You might not like his art

01:26:09.420 But no

01:26:09.840 No that's not what

01:26:11.460 That's not what it's about

01:26:12.360 That's not what it's about

01:26:13.880 It was done once

01:26:16.000 It could be done before

01:26:16.880 I

01:26:17.340 Again

01:26:18.380 Who cares

01:26:19.880 I got

01:26:20.240 I got FTCs

01:26:22.860 Oh my god

01:26:24.220 If I brought home a C 0.87

01:26:25.120 It would be a parade

01:26:25.780 This is

01:26:26.240 Logan I think the

01:26:27.840 The key there

01:26:28.480 And it's a really interesting moment

01:26:29.720 That I hope people extract from home

01:26:31.400 i'm not delusional it's gonna take my life like i actually actually have to put all my energy

01:26:38.320 into even getting into the conversation if i go crazy and get the transformers level

01:26:44.580 it's all time to talk about disney is ludicrous however i just don't know how not to make that

01:26:52.520 the framework of how i think can i can i ask you like let's let's dive in here a little bit because

01:26:57.500 i'm super into media obviously in storytelling and characters and their arcs when you did the 0.99

01:27:04.280 things with your fucking pets i was pumped that fucking parrot oh oh yeah yeah yeah i love that 1.00

01:27:10.760 shit yeah i know this about you like when you did that i was like this fucking kid i love i love i 1.00

01:27:17.460 love i love the entire entirety of the of the thing and the development i know and so it's 0.99

01:27:22.720 interesting creative exactly you've started with characters yes so now you i don't know if you have

01:27:29.400 to work backwards but okay so can i ask what the next step is are you are you gonna make a script

01:27:34.740 and and sell your uh show to cartoon network of course not only that it's better than you think

01:27:40.000 i have real relationships i'm a real guy like i know the people that run these ott's i know the

01:27:47.140 best studios in the world i know which animation studios i'm gonna buy i know the people i know

01:27:53.300 how to put a broadway show dude dude dude dude part of the reason part of the reason that originals 0.98

01:27:58.940 was delayed was because you fucking bought the dev team that was gonna build it no shit i swear 0.99

01:28:04.300 to god you fucking yeah dude you screwed me i i've been hearing about it and there's another side 1.00

01:28:13.260 right i you know and you've done this with maverick i know how to do retail like like i've already 0.99

01:28:18.960 sold a wine company that was dtc like i know what i'm doing yeah like the thing that the thing that 0.96

01:28:24.300 has been baffling to me is people are buying all these fucking nfts they don't even know who the 0.98

01:28:27.560 founders are it's because it's all pump dump all bullshit i'm sitting out here i'm like i i co-founded 0.98

01:28:33.480 resi and sold it for 200 million i co-founded empathy and sold it for 80 to 120 million depending 0.96

01:28:38.320 on the outcome vayner x is a billion dollar company like i'm gary v i built that brand i

01:28:43.880 invested in all these companies i found people like logan fucking paul like i'm good at what i 0.73

01:28:47.980 i'm a good businessman but besides that besides that because you're right and that's that is like 0.80

01:28:53.720 i i think that's like 80 of the reason why i'm buying into v friends and i and i'm i'm just like

01:28:58.720 this is an open conversation i imagine working backwards is super hard because you have to have

01:29:07.080 an amazing product only by the way let's talk about the meta right this second be friends is

01:29:13.660 just revealed it's 55 555 nfts and 20 000 holders right yeah but 55 000 we were talking in the car

01:29:23.620 here i'm like how are all the people that have been whispering for the last six weeks everybody's

01:29:27.640 like too much supply too much supply too much supply the thing is melting it right now why

01:29:32.960 because i have enough demand i know what i'm doing and in the same like to your point i know

01:29:37.960 how to hire and mna the right talent yeah and build an organization i have 1800 employees

01:29:44.660 looking right now i'm i am currently the ceo of disproportionately the hottest largest independent

01:29:51.260 advertising agency in the world i have 350 employees in apac right now like i have mexico

01:29:56.640 city like i'm a real businessman i know people think i'm a motivational speaker i know people

01:30:01.760 think i'm a tiktok influencer i know what they think because nobody pumps out more content than

01:30:06.340 me but in real life actually i'm trying to become one of the greatest entrepreneurs of all time

01:30:12.200 i think you might have already done that no i haven't but but but if i keep going how i'm going

01:30:18.260 the way i've defined it for me because it's an inside game because i want to win this game

01:30:22.100 is not only do i want to build big companies because you got to have that if you're gonna

01:30:25.900 if you're gonna say it you got to have some points on the board but i'm incredibly proud of

01:30:30.520 who I am to other entrepreneurs.

01:30:33.080 I think I'm far more selfless

01:30:34.920 than other people

01:30:35.780 that have my talent in this game.

01:30:37.740 And I don't need all the points on my board.

01:30:39.840 I like putting points on the board for others.

01:30:41.920 You ever talk to Tony Robbins?

01:30:43.560 Yeah.

01:30:44.560 Does he inspire you?

01:30:45.900 Do you inspire him?

01:30:46.840 Is it mutual?

01:30:48.680 You know, I'm not sure.

01:30:49.820 You know, I don't think I inspire him.

01:30:51.040 He was long, long. 0.99

01:30:52.120 You know, he was in fucking movies, 1.00

01:30:54.440 like killing fucking Jack Black 1.00

01:30:55.780 when I was like jerking off watching it. 1.00

01:30:57.900 Like, you know what I mean?

01:30:58.660 Seems like some weird content

01:30:59.940 I don't know if you remember that movie carefully.

01:31:03.840 My favorite scene is where she jumps in the pool.

01:31:06.220 Thank you.

01:31:08.740 And the kids on the trees.

01:31:09.920 He's like, get it!

01:31:10.800 So, you know, I tend not to be inspired by a Steve Jobs

01:31:18.000 or a Elon Musk or a Tony, like,

01:31:19.920 that's not how my brain works.

01:31:21.200 I get crazy, like almost like Little Misty

01:31:24.120 when I get the email from like a kid who's like,

01:31:26.440 can you make my mom a five-second happy birthday video?

01:31:29.640 She works three jobs. 1.00

01:31:31.180 There's six of us. 0.61

01:31:31.980 Sure, kid.

01:31:32.360 It's $1,000 in cameo.

01:31:33.500 Get out of here.

01:31:35.040 You know, like, to me. 1.00

01:31:36.580 The Jets are on you fucking idiot. 1.00

01:31:37.980 Don't message me right now. 1.00

01:31:39.140 Well, that I won't even look at.

01:31:40.760 Like, the world can be, like,

01:31:42.800 Putin could have won during a Jets game,

01:31:45.220 and I'd be like, that's fine.

01:31:46.220 This game is like, you know, like, I. 1.00

01:31:48.660 You'd still be beating up old men at this game. 0.99

01:31:51.440 I've got others that I'm holding back. 1.00

01:31:53.220 The Kip check of the 12-year-old 1.00

01:31:54.780 and shitting on an old man 1.00

01:31:55.860 is like what I was willing to share. 1.00

01:31:57.400 It's that bad.

01:31:58.040 but for me

01:31:59.260 I don't get inspired that way

01:32:00.600 I get really

01:32:01.580 actually

01:32:02.240 like genuinely

01:32:02.960 like

01:32:03.320 yeah okay

01:32:04.660 I'm a good entrepreneur 0.99

01:32:05.300 I'm doing shit 0.97

01:32:05.880 but like 1.00

01:32:06.140 people are fucking grinding out there 0.99

01:32:07.960 rags to riches 1.00

01:32:08.820 that shit 1.00

01:32:09.840 and some people are rags to rags 1.00

01:32:11.960 only to give their kid

01:32:13.660 a chance to riches 1.00

01:32:14.500 fuck yeah 1.00

01:32:14.900 I fucking respect the shit 1.00

01:32:16.500 that's cool 0.99

01:32:16.840 my dad

01:32:17.400 that's cool

01:32:17.720 my dad too 0.99

01:32:18.920 you know that's fucking 0.98

01:32:20.200 like for a lot of us 0.99

01:32:21.320 it was our

01:32:22.300 what our grandfathers

01:32:23.340 and grandmothers

01:32:23.980 like

01:32:24.220 and just like 0.98

01:32:24.900 what about old school grandmothers

01:32:26.280 like you know

01:32:26.700 we talk about like

01:32:27.380 the way the world was but like people staying at home taking care of all like these are these are 1.00

01:32:31.840 moms and grandmas who had six kids no fucking maids no help no fucking uber this no this shit 0.99

01:32:37.940 like fucking grinded it so i don't know i get i get way more of the less sexy stuff i i don't get 1.00

01:32:44.180 inspired the way i inspire people i wouldn't i wouldn't be me like for me i wouldn't have given 0.99

01:32:49.740 a fuck about gary b i get more excited about like real stories that i know of people fucking eating 0.82

01:32:55.980 shit for 40 years to help others that parent to kid thing or that older brother i get a lot of 1.00

01:33:02.520 i'm the older brother my dad died shit i don't know what it is about that one yeah i gotta take 0.99

01:33:06.680 care of my little bro yeah that one really gets me like you know like but that's why you work 0.91

01:33:11.280 though too is because even though you're not telling that same story in your content

01:33:14.760 the authenticity transparency honesty it is flows through your veins that that resembles

01:33:23.020 that kind of storytelling.

01:33:24.700 Do you know what I'm saying?

01:33:25.440 In a real way.

01:33:26.220 I think for you guys,

01:33:27.140 back to giving roses in reverse,

01:33:29.080 I think the people that are winning,

01:33:30.220 we talked about it earlier

01:33:31.000 and I do think people,

01:33:31.920 like you countered in the right way.

01:33:33.500 There's a lot to go through

01:33:35.000 but my general thesis is humans are animals.

01:33:38.300 We do have intuition and sixth sense

01:33:40.460 and like most people kind of know.

01:33:44.100 And like success is not super by accident

01:33:46.400 and I think more than ever,

01:33:48.840 your intent to the audience

01:33:50.760 is a huge variable of where things are going to go.

01:33:53.980 Yeah, and figuring out who that audience

01:33:56.260 you want to speak to is

01:33:56.960 because I think you have a way of speaking

01:33:59.240 to a group of people who don't have money to invest

01:34:02.400 and teaching them how to try new things

01:34:03.660 and do this and do that.

01:34:04.600 Mine has always been,

01:34:06.080 I want to talk to people

01:34:06.780 who are just trying to survive today.

01:34:08.320 Yeah.

01:34:08.560 They're trying to make it till tomorrow.

01:34:09.880 It's not about $9 to put into a stock or $15.

01:34:12.360 They're just trying to survive till tomorrow.

01:34:14.000 You got to figure out who your audience is.

01:34:15.520 And I think you have to be okay with evolving.

01:34:17.220 You're going to be in a place in seven years

01:34:18.860 where you're going to be a different version of yourself

01:34:20.640 and you might have something else to say.

01:34:22.500 And I think that's powerful.

01:34:23.520 I think we have to let that happen.

01:34:25.340 You know, I think a lot about that.

01:34:27.740 We had this talk.

01:34:29.120 I told Logan, he was in New York

01:34:30.740 and we actually got to spend a little time,

01:34:32.420 which is rare for us

01:34:33.180 because it's usually just boom, boom, boom, digital, whatever.

01:34:35.380 And I was like, bro, I really do look at you 0.99

01:34:37.280 like fucking Marky Mark and The Rock and Will Smith. 0.99

01:34:41.320 I was like, he's the Fresh Prince. 0.99

01:34:42.700 Then he's Will Smith.

01:34:43.620 You know, Marky Mark is like Marky Mark. 0.99

01:34:46.100 Then he's fucking Mark Wahlberg. 0.98

01:34:47.880 Like, I think you have to be okay with evolving 0.99

01:34:50.420 Sometimes you get your identity so stuck.

01:34:52.600 Look, my identity was like 2008

01:34:55.320 when I was starting to get a little momentum.

01:34:56.960 The world melted.

01:34:58.540 The economy collapsed.

01:35:00.020 Banks, and I was like, look, this is grind time, right?

01:35:03.660 We have to grind.

01:35:04.660 But then you evolve.

01:35:05.660 Hello everyone, welcome to episode two of Wine Library TV.

01:35:08.700 I'm your host.

01:35:09.540 Is that you?

01:35:10.380 2006.

01:35:11.220 Today we are going to visit the wonderful

01:35:14.620 and interesting world of Pinot Grigio.

01:35:16.660 Pinot Grigio.

01:35:17.540 He's come so far

01:35:22.300 It's really real

01:35:23.360 You know when I watch that

01:35:25.860 Talk about something interesting

01:35:27.360 You're wearing a sweater vest 1.00

01:35:28.580 Yo you fucking 1.00

01:35:32.940 Yo you walked into that one bro 1.00

01:35:38.760 You didn't even say anything

01:35:42.500 He puffed it with

01:35:44.280 oh my god that's hilarious guys you want to hear something really interesting i haven't told this

01:35:50.240 story much so that episode my life at that point is i need to build this one focus i have to build 0.54

01:35:57.480 the biggest fucking company possible for my father who i put on a pedestal brought me to 0.76

01:36:01.800 this country taught me the right way fucking adore this man because one day aj's graduating 0.98

01:36:06.800 aj's already in college i'm like we're only a couple years away and i'm going because i need 0.91

01:36:12.980 for me because I've been not making a lot of money building my dad's business and I'm starting to

01:36:17.040 get resentment now I'm in there I'm 31 I took a business from three to 65 million and I'm making

01:36:22.560 like 40 50 60,000 a year because you don't get paid in immigrant family businesses yeah and now

01:36:27.100 at 31 you know at 20 you know he's like when I die you'll get it I'm like dad I'm gonna be 70

01:36:32.340 no this is you

01:36:33.540 DRock hand me the gun you know and so and so I'm like you know it was a really interesting mindset

01:36:40.760 out where I'm there. Meanwhile, what do I do for a living at that point? I sit in front of a

01:36:45.180 computer, send emails and do phone calls, mainly selling wine to collectors around the country.

01:36:52.420 So I'm like thinking about doing content and this is probably, I just said it earlier, I'm really

01:36:57.580 not good at not being myself. This is probably the time in my entire life, 86 episodes, I even,

01:37:03.720 86 episodes of Wine Library TV, the first 86 of a thousand, I was too scared to be fully me 0.98

01:37:10.380 because I thought if they knew who the fuck I was, 0.98

01:37:13.340 they would never give me $13,000 to buy wine 0.99

01:37:16.060 because the wine world was so pretentious.

01:37:18.320 So I go 86 episodes in and things are happening.

01:37:21.840 YouTube, there's nobody on YouTube yet.

01:37:23.420 It's 06.

01:37:24.020 I was going to say, that was like when I uploaded my first video.

01:37:27.340 Yeah, yeah, it's probably the same time, probably the same year.

01:37:29.300 So I'm fucking like doing this and it's working 0.99

01:37:32.680 and like shit's starting to happen. 0.99

01:37:34.980 And I remember I like started talking to the Food Network. 0.99

01:37:37.820 This happened in like three minutes.

01:37:39.240 They're like, you want to do a show? 0.97

01:37:40.260 and I'm like this is fucking crazy 0.97

01:37:42.580 and I remember thinking 0.98

01:37:44.000 just one day I was driving home

01:37:46.320 cause the store's in Jersey

01:37:48.280 and I lived in Manhattan so I was 45 minutes

01:37:50.420 to an hour each way and I was like 1.00

01:37:52.000 if people like this shit 1.00

01:37:54.560 what would they do if I really let it loose 1.00

01:37:56.940 I said fuck it 1.00

01:37:58.320 like I'm not gonna go do some bullshit like 1.00

01:38:00.200 food network show that style 0.99

01:38:02.120 wonderful world 0.99

01:38:02.980 fuck that guy 1.00

01:38:04.020 the world of Pinot Grigio 1.00

01:38:07.780 it's pretty legit

01:38:08.980 Like, let's not go crazy.

01:38:09.960 Yeah, if you drink 16 bottles of Pinot Grigio,

01:38:11.880 you'll get lit.

01:38:12.600 But, you know, I think that,

01:38:14.400 so then I made my first episode

01:38:16.360 a little bit more like,

01:38:17.580 this is how I would talk to my buddies,

01:38:19.140 like me, 0.98

01:38:20.060 and it fucking went bananas after that, 0.99

01:38:22.140 and that was it. 0.99

01:38:22.940 I never.

01:38:23.440 That's how you found your voice?

01:38:24.860 Yeah, I really, I just,

01:38:26.520 I fear, right?

01:38:28.420 It was business fear,

01:38:30.360 but I was scared

01:38:31.100 if I really showed myself

01:38:32.820 and went all the way there

01:38:34.480 that these 55-year-old,

01:38:37.060 45-year-old,

01:38:38.000 high net worth

01:38:39.060 Wall Street cats

01:38:40.240 and don't forget

01:38:40.900 this is 2006

01:38:41.580 the world's changed a lot

01:38:42.840 so what did that look like 1.00

01:38:44.080 listen here motherfuckers 1.00

01:38:45.200 we've got a 1948 1.00

01:38:46.120 Cabernet 0.99

01:38:46.700 from fucking Napa 0.99

01:38:48.140 it wasn't 0.99

01:38:48.860 yeah

01:38:49.340 when I was doing wine content

01:38:50.660 I didn't

01:38:51.400 cursing only started

01:38:53.480 happening for me

01:38:54.100 when I took the stage

01:38:54.980 yeah

01:38:55.520 I don't know what happened

01:38:56.500 is it the energy

01:38:57.220 I think it's the fact

01:38:58.820 that I loved Chris Rock

01:39:00.080 and Richard Pryor

01:39:01.380 and Adam Sandler

01:39:02.340 like I loved

01:39:03.060 I was so into

01:39:04.540 Richard Pryor

01:39:05.600 as a kid 0.73

01:39:06.080 psycho

01:39:06.660 like who was it 0.98

01:39:07.540 lunatic

01:39:07.980 loved him so much and I loved Randy the Macho Man Savage more than life and like when I watched

01:39:13.200 like when I somewhere around four years in I kind of like was watching a keynote for some content

01:39:17.880 I'm like oh fuck I'm just doing stand-up meets wrestling promo video I completely was so affected

01:39:24.660 by that that that's my style literally in all my content interviews like I didn't really curse 0.98

01:39:29.920 that much I mean I cursed in real life with my buddies but it was stage that brought that out

01:39:35.160 and then it just went into content so for so for people the one thing i picked up from you the most

01:39:40.520 in the show today is like you pretty early on identified your passion and desire to just sell

01:39:47.120 to be a good to be a good salesman to be a good speaker and you know you'll be like this i got

01:39:52.340 back to if you get positive affirmation for being pretty yeah i was a dnf student yeah and by fourth

01:39:58.800 grade my unbelievable hand-eye coordination could no longer hold off the fact that everyone was

01:40:04.300 getting bigger stronger and faster so i went from really doing well in sports in first second and

01:40:09.460 third grade to uh-oh so now sports was out school's out sports is out so the only thing i'm getting

01:40:16.520 positive affirmation for as a kid is two things my mother is giving me tons of it when i'm nice 0.97

01:40:22.020 to people in society open the door for a lady it's a fucking holiday right be a kid scrapes his knee 0.52

01:40:28.560 and i come over and i'm empathetic and compassionate all dinner what you did for that kid and so i'm 0.97

01:40:33.980 getting positive for being nice what's the other thing business thing i made 16 today which was

01:40:40.000 like a billion right like i made nine dollars at the lemonade stand so you got into the business

01:40:44.300 of being nice to people uh no in a way in a way no no no i they just ran parallel got it i really

01:40:51.040 didn't i got into oh i'm good at that and baseball cards popped off in 86 so i was 11 and i was

01:40:57.260 dominant at that because i knew everything about sports i had the natural talent of being an

01:41:01.080 entrepreneur so I'm getting all I'm doing baseball card shows making 300 bucks which is like a 0.89

01:41:04.840 billion I'm fucking winning over here I'm winning in life everyone likes me I'm popular because I'm

01:41:09.780 nice but I'm not like a pushover like I and and that became my life our baseball cards back like 0.98

01:41:15.120 they were because I because you know when you were talking about the kids on the dirt bikes on the

01:41:18.740 train tracks yes that was me at the Knights of Columbus buying the flare and the upper deck

01:41:22.880 and I wanted the whole set and the unopened packs like the Kirby pocket rookie card

01:41:27.800 I would tell you that that led me right into NFTs,

01:41:34.740 sports cards in 17, 18.

01:41:36.460 That was really a big turning point for me helping people.

01:41:40.420 Like the amount of people I put onto sports cards in 18,

01:41:42.720 right before it blew up,

01:41:44.020 it really, really helped a lot of people,

01:41:46.540 especially with COVID.

01:41:47.760 I mean, COVID hits and I'm getting a hundred,

01:41:52.220 hundreds a lot, a hundred emails a day

01:41:54.740 or DM from Twitter or Instagram, 1.00

01:41:56.480 100 messages a day saying, motherfucker, 1.00

01:42:00.120 like you fucking saved me, I just lost my job. 1.00

01:42:02.600 And these sports cards, like I saved money 0.99

01:42:05.440 and then cards exploded.

01:42:06.720 So some of those people really went crazy.

01:42:08.540 So sports cards are way, way back.

01:42:10.700 I know the sports card community gets a little,

01:42:13.020 has feelings towards NFTs

01:42:14.540 because some of those people moved over me for sure.

01:42:16.800 But I'm still doing, like on the flight down here,

01:42:18.980 on the flight down here,

01:42:20.280 I'm texting with my friend Anthony saying,

01:42:22.200 I wanna buy a bunch of comic books,

01:42:23.840 like Golden Eater, like all this stuff,

01:42:26.240 Sneakers, I'm like, I'm going to buy an Optimus Prime.

01:42:28.900 First, Transformer in good condition

01:42:31.160 for my best friend, Brandon.

01:42:32.600 Like, we, I'm on the old side of it.

01:42:35.000 You're in the middle of it

01:42:35.840 and definitely the kids underneath.

01:42:37.200 We are the generation that is not as excited

01:42:39.640 to buy a one-family rental and make passive income

01:42:43.820 or buy 100,000 shares of AT&T.

01:42:46.520 Like, the things we want to invest in

01:42:48.440 are also our culture.

01:42:50.200 Yeah, they are part of our identity.

01:42:52.380 100%.

01:42:52.820 Look what's happened.

01:42:54.360 The reason this is all happening

01:42:55.580 is everyone thinks they're an investor now.

01:42:58.360 You look at TikTok,

01:42:59.220 you see 15, 16-year-old girls and boys

01:43:01.500 saying investor, entrepreneur.

01:43:03.480 It's a culture now.

01:43:04.600 Not financial advice.

01:43:05.920 Not financial advice.

01:43:07.440 But they're like really trying to go there

01:43:09.240 and that's very,

01:43:10.080 I mean,

01:43:11.060 when I was in high school,

01:43:13.280 I couldn't find anybody to talk to business about.

01:43:15.880 My friend Scott Hunter,

01:43:16.840 my friend Brandon Warnicke

01:43:17.660 are my core great friends from high school 0.99

01:43:19.580 because they were the only fuckers I could find 0.99

01:43:21.680 that wanted to talk about selling stuff 1.00

01:43:23.440 or doing business.

01:43:24.400 It was just music.

01:43:25.580 right rock star sports school it was just not part of culture it is crazy how that's the kind

01:43:31.760 of discipline that that goes untalked about in high school i didn't i didn't know what business

01:43:35.660 was in high school until two months ago yeah literally yeah i'm still you guys bro he used 0.82

01:43:41.100 to fucking hate i would make i would sit down them five years ago and be like dude like this brand 0.87

01:43:45.580 this could be a good thing this kid they want to give you equity he it was like his eyes would 0.99

01:43:49.340 glaze over and now no but now because he found the intersection like you talk about where business

01:43:57.060 meets passion he's fucking obsessed bro notice what's happening which i'm really happy for him

01:44:02.780 for now he's been through another cycle he's like okay wait a minute let me take the best parts 0.93

01:44:06.600 but this operating stuff because because when you're creative right you get your high from the

01:44:13.420 creativity the operations is the only way that creativity is going to come to life but you have

01:44:18.860 to get your high from it.

01:44:19.660 The reason Vayner

01:44:20.480 is such a big company,

01:44:21.600 the reason I'm confident

01:44:22.340 about VFriends

01:44:23.000 is I get excited

01:44:24.420 about doing supply chain management

01:44:26.680 of the cereal brand.

01:44:28.840 I get excited about

01:44:29.860 selling it to Albertsons.

01:44:30.800 Of course.

01:44:31.180 I get excited about,

01:44:32.220 like I'm an operator.

01:44:33.500 100%.

01:44:33.900 You're an outlier though.

01:44:35.680 I know.

01:44:36.100 That doesn't make,

01:44:36.840 you have the creative,

01:44:37.860 because one thing

01:44:39.100 we've always done here

01:44:39.980 in like for the past

01:44:41.100 like five, six years

01:44:41.840 has been run super lean.

01:44:43.880 This has been one

01:44:44.440 of the leanest,

01:44:45.320 like if you couldn't

01:44:45.920 even imagine of this right here.

01:44:47.940 Is it? 0.97

01:44:48.240 This didn't exist fucking six to eight months ago. 0.94

01:44:51.740 I mean, there were times when it was me, him, Jeff, and a shooter. 0.94

01:44:54.800 You know what I'm saying?

01:44:55.440 That was it.

01:44:56.100 That was it.

01:44:56.640 By the way, the best advantage, you guys came up in the game where you knew that it didn't cost anything.

01:45:01.220 The reason, same with me, right?

01:45:03.020 It was just me and DRock and Andy forever.

01:45:05.720 Like, you know, when you know what the game is, which is why we've been so disruptive in ad land,

01:45:11.520 when we're pitching for business, we're like, we're so much less cost and so much more efficient.

01:45:17.860 Cause you know it.

01:45:18.620 Cause we know, 1.00

01:45:19.080 what are we going to charge you $900,000 to do a commercial on fucking 1.00

01:45:22.380 television? 1.00

01:45:23.900 Shoot it on iPhone and deploy it.

01:45:26.700 I don't know why,

01:45:28.000 but I love it.

01:45:29.240 You should work for VaynerMedia.

01:45:31.140 We'll take you.

01:45:31.900 We'll pay you more than impulse.

01:45:34.480 That's not going to be hard.

01:45:35.760 We'll pay you more than that guy who wears that shirt.

01:45:38.880 That's not going to be hard.

01:45:40.880 What's the,

01:45:41.340 what's at the root of all of it?

01:45:42.780 Or God,

01:45:43.180 I was just going to say,

01:45:44.720 no,

01:45:45.440 it's funny kind of touching on what you said earlier is,

01:45:47.860 at first when i was getting older i was afraid of getting older it's not something you want to do

01:45:53.140 25 i remember i oh i'm 25 now and then i turned 26 i'm like this is such an insignificant age

01:45:58.740 now at 27 we're like oh i figured something out yeah i mean to be at that age and have this much

01:46:04.620 figured out like like i i know some things now and i think i think younger the younger generation

01:46:10.200 gen z or whatever the fuck the next generation is gonna be gonna go back to a gen a uh i think 0.75

01:46:17.620 All I know is the 11 year olds that are coming next 0.98

01:46:21.060 That are going to be part of that 1.00

01:46:21.860 Those fuckers are going to be wild 1.00

01:46:23.420 I'm ready for those 1.00

01:46:25.660 I don't know what they're going to be

01:46:26.700 They're going to be like eating

01:46:27.860 Like steel

01:46:29.760 They're going to be crazy 1.00

01:46:31.580 I love Gen Z a lot 1.00

01:46:35.180 I was going to say they're fucking geniuses 0.99

01:46:37.020 They're brilliant 1.00

01:46:37.440 They're smart

01:46:38.700 They grew up using this

01:46:41.120 I think they're completely unstoppable 1.00

01:46:43.720 They need to get punched in the face 1.00

01:46:45.020 meaning not physically. 1.00

01:46:47.800 No, no, physically.

01:46:49.320 No, they do.

01:46:50.940 Adversity, adversity.

01:46:52.840 They don't go outside.

01:46:55.060 Everyone says they have it

01:46:56.180 because the world's been unrest, COVID, which is fair.

01:46:59.260 I mean, they're so good

01:47:01.620 at actually starting businesses

01:47:03.460 and things of that nature.

01:47:04.620 They've had macro adversity, COVID, political unrest.

01:47:08.280 They've had macro,

01:47:09.620 but when they get their micro,

01:47:11.420 because that's just life.

01:47:12.560 When I say punch of it,

01:47:13.280 that means just go through life.

01:47:14.300 Like you're 27 and feeling strong 1.00

01:47:16.720 Cause you've gone through some shit 1.00

01:47:18.160 When Gen Z 0.99

01:47:20.500 Not in the macro

01:47:21.560 Not COVID, political unrest and other things

01:47:23.400 And obviously everyone has family situations

01:47:25.680 But as a whole

01:47:26.400 When they get to the time

01:47:27.900 When they stand on their own feet 1.00

01:47:29.140 Like the 27 year old Gen Zer 1.00

01:47:32.540 You know that's coming 1.00

01:47:34.240 Is really gonna have it

01:47:35.860 Like a decade from now

01:47:37.480 I totally agree

01:47:38.840 They're gonna be shooters

01:47:39.980 They just gotta get rocked a couple times

01:47:41.640 Unfortunately

01:47:42.280 Physically too

01:47:43.760 it's just important

01:47:45.320 I mean you gotta go outside

01:47:46.420 getting beat up

01:47:47.260 in real life

01:47:47.780 is actually a healthy thing

01:47:48.580 that's what I'm trying to say

01:47:49.320 100%

01:47:50.000 you know why

01:47:51.160 because in real life

01:47:51.920 you go 1.00

01:47:52.280 I got my ass kicked 1.00

01:47:53.580 I'm gonna step this way 1.00

01:47:54.600 that's what I'm trying to say

01:47:55.380 that's what I'm trying to say

01:47:56.280 by the way

01:47:56.640 it makes you realize

01:47:57.240 growing up in Jersey

01:47:58.360 in the 80s

01:47:58.900 we fought

01:48:00.220 and like

01:48:00.940 I don't

01:48:01.940 you know

01:48:02.180 I don't trust someone

01:48:03.360 who's never been in a fight

01:48:04.580 of course not

01:48:05.660 I don't

01:48:06.960 they have the loudest mouth

01:48:07.960 yes

01:48:08.740 I don't trust it

01:48:09.620 because you have to know

01:48:11.220 what it is

01:48:11.940 because

01:48:12.660 yeah

01:48:13.180 that guy got punched by Tyson the other day good

01:48:15.180 good good good yeah that was a consensus

01:48:17.100 he put a water bottle at him or something

01:48:18.260 he seemed pretty happy about it

01:48:22.700 he was pumped

01:48:23.480 no but on a serious note

01:48:25.820 I think that that's I'm really excited

01:48:27.940 for this generation I think they've

01:48:29.940 really got it they've figured out a lot of

01:48:31.940 tough things including

01:48:33.240 wait a minute I'll just make $50,000

01:48:35.840 doing content or

01:48:37.900 selling NFTs or doing garage sales

01:48:39.960 like I'm not going to do

01:48:41.860 something that makes me miserable they've already beat everybody and it's oh and it's like more okay

01:48:46.060 now like yeah is college canceled yeah college college is on deep it's not canceled college is

01:48:54.880 on defense and they haven't begun to figure out what to do to turn the tide it's insane

01:49:00.540 that we're this close from there's one more generation of parents under me uh you guys

01:49:06.340 you guys you guys well you may not right but like yeah but like we'll see if that happens

01:49:12.460 but the person that's 25 to 32 right now that's about to have kids is going to be wildly open in

01:49:19.920 18 years to not have their kid go to college you know what they need to do they need to watch our

01:49:24.380 ex-co-hosts documentary on the education reform i think there's five i was gonna say so like this

01:49:30.220 all starts with education i i was i was looking at what at there's like 18 philanthropic pursuit

01:49:36.320 um in general that you know there's a bunch but they can be like categorized in 18 different

01:49:40.580 categories and i was kind of just skimming and seeing which one i'd like to sink my teeth into

01:49:46.220 once i start to climb my second mountain and uh education reform seems like the most obvious

01:49:51.000 because it's it will stem the solution for the rest i think i think education is a macro

01:49:58.780 conversation not a micro execution called school like you know to me first of all a lot of what we

01:50:05.660 talked about here and where i see things going we're starting to have much better conversations

01:50:09.740 around emotional intelligence we've de-stigmatized mental health massive big win for society massive

01:50:16.420 we are now starting to talk about foofy things as alpha things kindness compassion empathy dudes

01:50:23.500 did not sit around hell no thank you so that's starting to trickle and so i think we're starting

01:50:28.780 to educate on the emotional intelligence front and then on the kind of black and white science

01:50:34.280 kids are learning on the internet

01:50:36.540 like that's very nice

01:50:38.940 that you go to 7th grade

01:50:40.020 like that 7th grader is going home 1.00

01:50:41.880 and learning how to do shit on the internet 1.00

01:50:44.280 good and bad 0.98

01:50:45.400 because you got stuff coming out with empirical evidence

01:50:48.720 and then you got stuff coming out where people didn't read the article

01:50:50.680 and now somebody believes that you can drink

01:50:52.820 marbles to get your protein

01:50:54.180 you know what I'm saying

01:50:55.820 that's a foundational societal

01:50:58.820 thing of headline reading 0.97

01:51:00.880 and not giving a fuck 1.00

01:51:01.840 that's called prosperity of a society for too long we collectively need a punch in the face 0.99

01:51:07.520 yeah facts the whole country yeah to george so i'm i'm a little bit on the other side of it i want

01:51:14.940 like when people come up to me like yo should i quit college and do this i i there's not okay

01:51:20.800 i want to make sure i wear this carefully i didn't do good in school because i knew my mouth and my

01:51:25.840 brain kind of like worked in a different way yeah but we need these doctors we need these nurses

01:51:30.920 they're not asking you the question

01:51:32.520 they're not asking you the question

01:51:34.900 what do you mean what question? I'll explain

01:51:36.220 you knew your mouth and your words and your things

01:51:39.040 worked a certain way and you knew the answer was no for you

01:51:41.140 the people that are going to be the doctors

01:51:43.140 that you want they're not rolling up to you

01:51:45.220 and me and asking if they should go

01:51:46.460 they're just going

01:51:47.320 got it brother

01:51:50.240 it's the in between

01:51:51.620 and the in between was always told it's a good bet

01:51:54.540 and my point is a lot of people should go to college

01:51:56.920 like when people

01:51:58.260 so you're not against it completely

01:51:59.840 No, I'm against lack of self-awareness

01:52:02.220 and I'm against the place we were in

01:52:05.400 for the last 30 years

01:52:06.320 where everyone should go to college.

01:52:07.520 Lack of choice, lack of choice.

01:52:09.660 Everyone should go to college

01:52:11.520 was the absolute cultural rule.

01:52:13.880 My view on college was when it was invented,

01:52:17.220 it worked, but they didn't change things.

01:52:19.320 Correct, things changed.

01:52:20.240 Like crypto punks.

01:52:20.900 Like the world changed. 0.98

01:52:21.580 Like crypto punks. 1.00

01:52:22.760 They had a great fucking, 1.00

01:52:24.140 they really fucking came out hard, 1.00

01:52:26.600 got that floor up and they didn't reinvent, 0.99

01:52:28.820 they didn't do anything

01:52:29.520 in the culture

01:52:29.960 and now they're college

01:52:30.860 quick

01:52:31.120 how many punks

01:52:32.400 you own

01:52:32.700 I own

01:52:33.940 50

01:52:36.280 62

01:52:36.920 what

01:52:37.980 huh

01:52:40.040 there's probably

01:52:42.220 not an investment

01:52:43.120 I have

01:52:43.640 that I'm more confident 1.00

01:52:44.480 in than crypto punks 0.60

01:52:45.400 over yugis

01:52:47.420 over over 1.00

01:52:48.440 fucking 1.00

01:52:48.900 bored apes 1.00

01:52:49.800 I

01:52:50.200 I

01:52:50.600 if

01:52:51.360 so bored ape

01:52:52.640 for the next 15 years

01:52:53.880 v friends

01:52:54.540 for the next 15 years

01:52:55.400 I don't even want to use 1.00

01:52:56.220 bored ape 1.00

01:52:56.640 because I'll use myself 1.00

01:52:57.920 got it

01:52:58.600 VFriends has to execute perfectly for 15 years

01:53:03.200 to even be in the conversation with CryptoPunks

01:53:05.560 because unlike college,

01:53:07.160 CryptoPunks sits in a collectible art framework

01:53:11.320 of being the thing that established the whole thing.

01:53:13.180 Mona Lisa.

01:53:14.140 Well, even more, even further back.

01:53:16.180 That's too big, but like it's,

01:53:19.660 if board apes, apes are inspired by apes

01:53:24.500 being a big thing in punks.

01:53:26.220 When things play out in a 30 year window,

01:53:29.400 punks is the only thing I feel safe about.

01:53:33.240 Well, you got 62, so.

01:53:35.200 That's why I have 62.

01:53:36.360 Yeah, I mean, and people are like,

01:53:37.760 well, that's because you have 62.

01:53:38.760 I'm like, no, no, I have 62 because that's what I believe.

01:53:41.900 Like people always have it reversed.

01:53:43.840 They're like, yeah, of course.

01:53:44.680 I'm like, no, no.

01:53:45.520 You know what I mean?

01:53:46.360 So I also, one thing for everybody in NFT,

01:53:49.260 Leon, real quick, the biggest mistake happening

01:53:51.320 besides the fraud, actually the biggest mistake

01:53:52.900 is bad acting.

01:53:54.140 The second biggest mistake is for some reason

01:53:56.140 people think shitting on other projects

01:53:57.720 make their projects that they're invested in good. 0.93

01:53:59.740 This world is,

01:54:00.420 our world is so small in NFT land.

01:54:02.380 I cheer for every, 0.92

01:54:03.300 I want World of Women, 1.00

01:54:04.620 Cruel Cats, Pudgy Penguin. 1.00

01:54:05.880 I want everything to fucking dominate. 1.00

01:54:08.300 Especially World of Women would be nice too. 1.00

01:54:10.360 Hey, hey, hey. 1.00

01:54:11.500 Why do you think I got into World of Women? 1.00

01:54:13.220 I know.

01:54:13.840 No, dude, I want to hear you say it.

01:54:15.140 Because Gary told you to.

01:54:16.940 Really?

01:54:17.300 He said,

01:54:18.440 you should check out this project.

01:54:20.340 When Gary does this to you,

01:54:22.460 check this out. 0.99

01:54:23.700 Fucking listen. 0.99

01:54:24.860 Like, listen. 1.00

01:54:25.560 You can go to your bank account.

01:54:25.860 You crushed, you got a goddess.

01:54:28.060 You sold it.

01:54:28.620 What happened?

01:54:29.040 You crushed the goddess. 0.97

01:54:29.620 Now he's got a champion on the galaxy side.

01:54:31.640 Yeah, I know.

01:54:32.400 I got very lucky in that project.

01:54:34.560 You did really well.

01:54:35.140 Can I pick your brain about the metaverse?

01:54:37.440 I think it's a hair early.

01:54:39.160 A little bit, right?

01:54:40.260 Yeah.

01:54:40.700 So for example, I'm obsessed with the concept.

01:54:43.260 I think meta, like right now the stock market's getting killed from growth companies.

01:54:48.180 Every stock I own, I bought, I invested in the company pre-IPO.

01:54:52.340 My entire Wall Street portfolio

01:54:54.160 is companies I invested in when they were startups.

01:54:56.760 They went public and I still believe in them

01:54:58.180 and I hold on to the stock. 1.00

01:54:59.500 Holy shit. 1.00

01:55:00.060 So I never buy Wall Street. 0.99

01:55:01.960 It's just not something I get passionate about.

01:55:03.840 It's a good game, just like real estate.

01:55:05.320 I don't really like real estate.

01:55:06.560 I like alternative investing

01:55:07.520 and I like building my own companies.

01:55:08.620 That's how I like to roll.

01:55:09.600 Back to self-awareness.

01:55:10.900 By the way, real estate and Wall Street

01:55:12.860 are good things to put your money in historically.

01:55:15.320 It just doesn't get me going.

01:55:16.580 Nonetheless, I've been looking at Meta lately

01:55:18.920 because all the internet stocks are getting crushed

01:55:21.820 because now Wall Street wants profit

01:55:23.520 because of the way the world is.

01:55:25.180 And I'm like, man,

01:55:26.640 if people understood how far along Meta was with Oculus

01:55:30.060 compared to anything else that's happening,

01:55:32.020 everything that's Metaverse right now is like,

01:55:33.940 yeah, go to your browser and play an HTML5.

01:55:36.300 It's not actual Meta.

01:55:37.540 Like the hardware, just like the iPhone.

01:55:40.020 My biggest thing,

01:55:40.880 I used to really get passionate about this.

01:55:43.700 You know this.

01:55:44.380 I used to be like,

01:55:45.260 I literally had conversations with Mark Zuckerberg

01:55:48.100 way back in 2011, 12.

01:55:50.220 I'm like, dude, you need a phone.

01:55:51.820 You need a TV.

01:55:52.760 The hardware's the moat.

01:55:54.700 Wait, what?

01:55:55.280 Wait, Gary Vee, did you invent the iPhone?

01:55:57.560 Nope. 1.00

01:55:58.700 Because you told Logan to buy World of Women and Punks, 0.93

01:56:01.420 and now you definitely told Zuckerberg to invent an iPhone.

01:56:04.380 No, I told him, actually, to your point,

01:56:08.520 it's literally 15, 16,

01:56:09.860 Facebook was building a monster,

01:56:11.680 and I was like, dude,

01:56:12.380 you don't control the thing that controls it.

01:56:14.740 Go buy Samsung, which is probably too big.

01:56:17.300 Nokia, go buy Nokia and do something.

01:56:20.420 And I think it's playing out now.

01:56:21.640 facebook's business has been hurt because of ios for you know update 14.5 so to me whoever owns

01:56:27.680 the thing is then puts the software inside but this one feels different this one feels different

01:56:33.460 because meta is such a because meta is such a a departure from everything that we know to an

01:56:39.580 extent where it seems like the hardware can just be an attachment after the fact you know what i'm

01:56:43.380 saying like like that's not how i don't think you don't think so no i see it as whoever wins the

01:56:48.460 hardware game like actually wins it will have a huge advantage and all the software will run

01:56:52.800 through it really i do forgive it think about what you have to do you have to put on the thing

01:56:56.820 right you have to put on the thing do you or can you set a desktop and and use metaverse

01:57:02.120 that's 1996 yeah like who gives the one like you know what i mean like the metaverse metaverse

01:57:11.260 that everyone's talking about is immersive and we live in a metaverse now it's called the iphone 0.72

01:57:17.700 we're fucking in it all the time 0.86

01:57:19.180 but where it's gonna go 0.99

01:57:22.520 is gonna be fucking crazy 0.93

01:57:23.980 talk about 0.98

01:57:25.400 you know when I see the whole Puerto Rico thing

01:57:27.580 this that

01:57:28.200 nomads traveling

01:57:29.660 I'm like man

01:57:30.340 wait till the metaverse hits

01:57:31.360 who really actually 0.98

01:57:32.740 actually could be any fucking 0.93

01:57:33.920 we're already there with Zoom 0.93

01:57:35.240 with just Zoom and Google Hangouts

01:57:37.100 all of a sudden everyone can be anywhere

01:57:38.860 just that

01:57:39.760 when the metaverse comes 0.98

01:57:41.500 it's fucking gonna get crazy 0.97

01:57:43.060 how long until you put those 0.99

01:57:45.380 my intuition

01:57:46.020 so why I have this good career

01:57:48.720 I love when I get viral

01:57:50.740 for being right about something

01:57:51.860 and inevitably back to the way the world works

01:57:54.260 that's what I'm trying to do right now

01:57:55.240 I see what you're doing

01:57:56.520 this is why I'm saying this story 0.99

01:57:57.780 oh a fucking clock can be twice a day 0.99

01:58:01.920 I was like cool 0.99

01:58:03.140 once in a while I jump in

01:58:04.400 I'm like cool

01:58:04.980 you know one good thing about what I do

01:58:06.660 is we document everything

01:58:07.940 thrilled for you to show me the receipts

01:58:10.000 of where I was wrong

01:58:10.900 the reason those receipts

01:58:12.620 don't really have a lot of heat

01:58:14.960 is because I don't go hard

01:58:16.300 until it's already happened.

01:58:18.180 So this, the official answer is, 0.98

01:58:20.360 I have no fucking idea. 0.97

01:58:21.720 My guess is it's more than five years 0.98

01:58:25.820 for it to be at a scale that gets us all going.

01:58:30.420 That it actually, at scale,

01:58:32.140 like millions of people are in there

01:58:34.380 where you want to go,

01:58:35.460 where you come home,

01:58:36.620 you grab a beer and you're like, let's go.

01:58:38.300 Yeah.

01:58:38.920 It still feels a little gamer-y now.

01:58:43.520 For sure, for sure.

01:58:44.120 i'm i'm not a huge gamer but the the world the metaverse excites me i mean that stuff's gonna

01:58:48.980 be i mean talk about you know fun gaming is gonna be when they get it going just for when i can

01:58:54.220 like i can box logan and oculus i i did a sparring match uh in with my oculus on and it was

01:59:02.440 legitimately like actual sparring i was exhausted i will say i tied which is a whole another like

01:59:09.860 I tied in the game

01:59:12.420 You can't even win in a fake world

01:59:14.000 That's what I said too

01:59:15.700 Are you ever going to box again?

01:59:18.200 Yeah, I have to

01:59:19.540 Go back to wrestling

01:59:20.320 It's so fun and it's cool

01:59:24.760 Yeah, I'll do more wrestling as well

01:59:27.320 Are you and bro

01:59:28.880 On the record like the Klitschko's were from day one

01:59:31.080 That you'll never fight each other?

01:59:32.380 No

01:59:32.780 You would fight each other

01:59:34.660 In the metaverse

01:59:35.820 For real?

01:59:40.400 Maybe.

01:59:40.980 The parents don't want it.

01:59:41.880 The parents don't want it.

01:59:42.880 They don't want it at all.

01:59:43.600 Why in the world? 1.00

01:59:44.300 But fuck the parents. 1.00

01:59:45.200 If you want it, then you go out and get it by your brother. 1.00

01:59:48.020 Is that you being Gary?

01:59:50.700 That was so bad, I thought it was something you were talking about.

01:59:53.120 I thought it was Mike Tyson, too.

01:59:54.760 I thought it was Mike Tyson.

01:59:56.260 If the parents want it, go out and get it. 1.00

01:59:58.180 Oh, fuck. 1.00

01:59:58.880 That was horrible. 1.00

02:00:00.060 I thought you guys were getting it because he says fuck the parents. 1.00

02:00:02.120 I was like, Mike Tyson just punched the shit out of us. 1.00

02:00:04.260 I literally right now was scared. 0.88

02:00:05.860 I was like, I don't know if I would do that Tyson right now.

02:00:08.200 If the parents want it.

02:00:09.860 I think if you guys

02:00:12.340 fought, if you guys did it right

02:00:14.440 and your brother

02:00:15.480 does the wrestling promo

02:00:18.320 your brother really

02:00:20.580 knows what he's doing

02:00:21.480 so he's putting his money on your brother

02:00:24.700 I just love calling him

02:00:26.040 Jake really knows how to

02:00:28.560 make people interested

02:00:29.600 promoting is real

02:00:31.840 and he does such a good job at it

02:00:34.060 we were at Nick's game

02:00:35.420 I didn't know he was coming, he sat by me and we were talking about it

02:00:38.700 And I'm just, I'm so proud of how he like thinks about that.

02:00:41.820 And then obviously he's really put in the work to be able to do what he's doing.

02:00:46.200 But I do think that if there's even a real possibility, you should definitely do it.

02:00:51.900 Really?

02:00:52.480 Yeah.

02:00:52.800 I'll tell you why.

02:00:53.420 A couple of things.

02:00:54.120 Now, a couple of things.

02:00:55.600 If deep in your soul you think you're going to lose, you should definitely not.

02:00:59.040 No, I think I'm going to win.

02:00:59.920 Okay.

02:01:00.240 Then you should definitely do it.

02:01:01.580 Okay.

02:01:02.120 If you definitely believe that in your soul, that you're going to win, which makes sense

02:01:06.560 to me because I always believe, and I actually

02:01:08.640 mean this, I think there is a subconscious

02:01:10.920 mental advantage

02:01:12.480 an older brother has. Older brother, yeah. 100%.

02:01:14.300 But I think that's what's going to be gassing

02:01:16.300 Jake, bro. His whole life. 100%.

02:01:18.180 It's everything to Jake. I think he actually

02:01:20.360 would bite your ear. No, no. It's everything 0.83

02:01:22.340 to Jake. Back to Tyson. But for Logan,

02:01:24.480 who wants it?

02:01:25.880 It would be so big.

02:01:28.300 That's why it excites me.

02:01:30.720 I don't think it is

02:01:32.140 replicable on a scale like this.

02:01:34.140 Ever. Like ever. That's like some

02:01:36.240 history in the making 0.99

02:01:37.680 in the textbook shit 0.99

02:01:38.740 that excites me 0.99

02:01:39.540 I grew up

02:01:39.920 a very big boxing fan

02:01:41.380 very big

02:01:42.240 and

02:01:43.000 when the Klitschko's

02:01:44.020 were coming up 0.68

02:01:44.620 cause I was really into it

02:01:46.080 like I knew they were coming

02:01:47.020 I would like

02:01:48.140 day

02:01:48.720 like

02:01:49.140 once a week

02:01:49.960 with my buddies 0.99

02:01:50.480 who didn't give a fuck 0.97

02:01:51.420 cause boxing wasn't 0.97

02:01:52.260 popular enough

02:01:52.900 I was like

02:01:53.260 if these two brothers

02:01:54.460 ever fight

02:01:55.020 if these two brothers

02:01:56.300 and that would have

02:01:57.280 you guys would have

02:01:58.580 more eyes on it

02:01:59.420 just cause of the nature

02:02:00.360 of where the world is now

02:02:01.660 I really need you guys

02:02:03.260 to do it

02:02:03.800 i need it for me i would be so nervous i would be so my parents i would be so nervous that'd be

02:02:13.820 crazy because there's just something like unnatural about it like it would just it would 0.93

02:02:18.480 fucking yeah it's a little fucked up but we're not maybe the most sane people like i'm just scared 0.99

02:02:24.620 it would affect you guys in real life no bro we're fucking brothers no no no we've been through it 0.99

02:02:29.240 On the record. 0.95

02:02:31.340 Everything's giving, bro. 1.00

02:02:32.320 The loser, bro. 0.99

02:02:33.760 On the record. 0.99

02:02:34.480 I don't know you well enough,

02:02:35.700 but I find you both pretty damn competitive.

02:02:37.440 I've known you guys for a long time. 0.99

02:02:38.360 I don't give a fuck. 0.99

02:02:39.180 Who wrote the first check into Team 10? 0.99

02:02:41.520 I was going to say,

02:02:42.200 was that your worst investment ever?

02:02:43.840 Probably.

02:02:45.120 No, no.

02:02:45.900 I've lost a lot of money.

02:02:49.440 I will tell you right now,

02:02:51.620 if AJ knocked me out in front of the world,

02:02:54.080 I'd never come back from it.

02:02:55.940 Ever.

02:02:57.040 I just couldn't.

02:02:57.880 You shouldn't.

02:02:59.240 how are you gonna motivate people when you can't even like i couldn't come back from it yeah by

02:03:04.320 the way they know by the way they know that they know that neither of them either of them wants

02:03:08.160 to get knocked out i'm already nervous like i get nervous between before big fights the only thing

02:03:12.940 that gets me fully fully in sports butterflies are overtime playoff hockey game seven and fights

02:03:20.400 something about it i'll tell you what it is i'll tell you what it is it's a sudden it makes you

02:03:25.500 present it's it's the sudden it's it's anything can happen a hundred percent punch how many

02:03:30.680 how many things truly ground you jake's last fight like i really watch fights i love i mean

02:03:35.920 we have a big ufc practice do you know that vayner sports represents o'malley oh sean o'malley 0.56

02:03:40.680 yes shut up you didn't know that shut up yeah vayner sports oh man oh that's cool sterling

02:03:46.440 won that big fight no way we rep al joe so we have a big ufc oh cool sports um so i just watch 0.99

02:03:53.580 every saturday night i'm watching a fight yeah it's ufc our people people watching just watching

02:03:58.980 the sport because we're so deep into it and then boxing i i love boxing much more than normal person

02:04:04.100 so there's that it's exactly what it is and that's why i brought up overtime hockey

02:04:08.520 overtime hockey is one it's why i fall in love with the world cup and soccer like like one second

02:04:14.300 soccer like you could still come back and score but like overtime hockey my teeth chatter like

02:04:19.620 a game i don't even really care about a lot i get nervous because it's that split second jake's last

02:04:25.020 fight like as the fight's going on like you know you kind of got lulled into it like especially

02:04:29.540 because they already fought i'm like okay and then boom yep all of a sudden there's nothing 0.92

02:04:33.700 like that feeling that that zero to a thousand there's nothing like it damn the table's been set

02:04:42.380 that's crazy way that's crazy he's right too i mean that's a big bag and a big fight well it's

02:04:48.500 not it's not about the bag it's about drive it's about power we stay hungry it's actually it's not

02:04:54.160 about that it's actually it's not about that it's actually it's not about that the rock just storms

02:04:59.320 through the wall it's not about what i'll tell you what it's about i'll tell you what it's about

02:05:04.100 the only what it's really why it's really fascinating is only those two know and what

02:05:10.500 i mean by that is something nobody else knows 100 like one moment 13 years ago took the last

02:05:17.120 toaster shirt off but not that mundane which is actually why it's so intense took his girlfriend 0.95

02:05:22.040 elissa violet it's all oh you're just you're you don't give a fuck but no all of that would be 0.94

02:05:29.860 like all and on top of that imagine the first fight goes down now we have the second one to 0.98

02:05:34.080 see like what the nail i just call him that yeah what do we do this is all this is all just it's

02:05:38.540 it's it's money it's very dust right now it's it's it doesn't exist i hear you i hear you

02:05:43.660 uh uh why'd you pass on uber i passed on uber because i passed on uber because

02:05:50.620 travis and garrett garrett so the so the person who obviously everybody knows travis

02:05:56.440 the person that came up with the idea for uber and was a co-founder the 1a travis's 1b though

02:06:03.480 travis was the operator which makes him the 1a based on what we're talking but the human being

02:06:08.160 that invented uber was garrett camp garrett camp this one might hit everybody in this room

02:06:13.620 because it's a younger crowd.

02:06:15.000 Garrett Camp invented StumbleUpon.

02:06:17.280 Oh, no.

02:06:18.140 Oh, my God.

02:06:19.440 I love StumbleUpon. 1.00

02:06:21.120 Shut up. 0.94

02:06:22.140 Bro, you'd put your interest in, 1.00

02:06:24.580 you'd hit randomize,

02:06:25.400 and it'd serve you a website with, like,

02:06:27.380 I don't know, doodles or, like, wood sculptures

02:06:29.820 or, like, rugs.

02:06:31.120 You came up with getting strangers

02:06:32.500 to pick you up at your house?

02:06:33.720 That's right.

02:06:33.980 Oh, my God.

02:06:34.460 I love that app.

02:06:35.280 Because you would stumble upon a driver

02:06:36.980 and you would just get into a car with them.

02:06:38.860 Cynicism?

02:06:39.560 Yeah.

02:06:39.860 Don't use words I don't know.

02:06:41.040 so like half of the english dictionary oh it's because i'm a i'm new to this country huh

02:06:47.000 they they i had just it's actually really heaven that hit kevin at home he said i uh it's really

02:07:00.680 interesting why i passed on uber all cliche things that i try not to do anymore i after we started

02:07:08.240 of VaynerMedia I wanted to do all sorts of things but I was always building for my dad so now I have

02:07:14.080 this new freedom I'm doing something else and now I decide to do all sorts of things I bought a wine

02:07:18.680 social network called Corked I I don't know if you guys know what Dribbble is creative people

02:07:24.120 like Dribbble is an incredible site we had a competitor to it for developers called Forest

02:07:28.880 that I did with Kyle Lindsay and I did Corked so now I have Vayner Corked uh Forest and Corked

02:07:36.200 and Forrest both failed

02:07:38.220 because I tried to eat too much cake.

02:07:42.080 I tried to do too much

02:07:43.880 and the people that I had running them,

02:07:45.900 I promised that I could help them too much.

02:07:47.520 They were too green.

02:07:49.020 As I've gotten older back to operations

02:07:50.360 where I think I can scale,

02:07:51.380 I'm like wait a minute,

02:07:52.440 I can be the sprinkles

02:07:53.460 but I need somebody to build the cake.

02:07:54.840 I can't build the cake for them.

02:07:56.660 And so they were too green.

02:07:58.100 They couldn't get there

02:07:59.360 and I didn't have the bandwidth

02:08:00.420 between Wine Library

02:08:01.540 and then I will crush it

02:08:02.460 and my whole career changed.

02:08:03.700 So I had too many,

02:08:04.500 fighting on too many fronts because those two things failed as side project

02:08:08.560 businesses.

02:08:09.020 And I had just done it a couple of years later when Garrett and Travis decided

02:08:13.120 to do Uber,

02:08:13.660 it was a side project for them for them.

02:08:16.680 Oh,

02:08:17.000 and that upset you.

02:08:18.180 It was called Uber cab first and they hired Ryan Graves.

02:08:23.640 The first CEO of Uber found out about Uber through a tweet I did to share the

02:08:28.420 job listing.

02:08:30.760 It's an insane story.

02:08:32.200 so because it was their side hustle and i had done that number two it was the least liquid i'd 0.96

02:08:38.740 been in a long time because at that point i just bought my first apartment timing timing fuck yeah

02:08:44.000 and so i've learned from that you know i really i tell myself now i've done really well in nft

02:08:50.260 the reason i've done so well with nfts um is because i'm betting on jockeys either the artist

02:08:55.760 or the operator i was and i'm like i'm done doing anything else and and that's what's working for

02:09:01.120 and I'm gonna do that for the rest of my life.

02:09:02.860 I just talked to Alex today

02:09:05.060 about the investment that we're looking at

02:09:06.760 and I said, I like the guy.

02:09:08.900 He said, so you're betting on the jockey?

02:09:10.200 And he said, and I love that.

02:09:11.360 And I'll tell you what can really work.

02:09:13.000 If you bet on the jockey, especially if they're younger,

02:09:16.120 if you're strategic, they may lose

02:09:19.120 and then you have a chance to actually win

02:09:20.580 on their second thing.

02:09:21.880 They'll get you in early because you were-

02:09:23.280 A lot of kids, a lot of youngsters

02:09:26.040 that are going into this chapter

02:09:27.320 where you have money to invest.

02:09:28.800 So for the people that are investing right now,

02:09:30.240 talking a little different crowd the mistake i see a lot is you believe in the jockey they fail

02:09:35.180 because they're 24 and it's their first rodeo or even 30 or 35 and you don't bet on them on the

02:09:41.820 next thing and that next thing happens before ev williams ev williams and jack but ev williams

02:09:48.800 when twitter first hit it was ev and jack not jack dorsey and ev had just failed with something

02:09:55.560 called Odeo because he was going to build

02:09:57.300 a podcast platform, but

02:09:59.160 Apple came out.

02:10:01.260 And a lot of people made money with Ev

02:10:03.260 before because Ev's first company was called Blogger.

02:10:06.140 The blogging platform

02:10:07.320 that he sold to Google.

02:10:08.960 But a lot of the people that invested in Odeo

02:10:11.160 didn't invest in Twitter because Odeo failed.

02:10:14.380 Stay, bet on a

02:10:15.340 jockey, unless they do something that's fraud.

02:10:17.620 Watch how they evolve and keep

02:10:19.160 betting on that jockey because you can make it

02:10:21.120 all back on the third one.

02:10:22.940 That's cool. Relationships. How many

02:10:24.980 vfriend series one do you have uh when those uh so what had happened was

02:10:30.380 no because i've been listening here today here's what i've heard i'm a heavy investor in nfts

02:10:36.120 late i only late late to the game that's fine very late i only bet on jockeys how about this

02:10:41.380 one how many v to be friends which were just well and then i spent seven hundred and sixteen

02:10:47.160 thousand dollars last week on an ape so okay yes i'll get some today i'll buy i'll buy your i'll

02:10:52.260 I'll buy this jockey.

02:10:53.120 You're going to get the men text.

02:10:54.380 Thank you so much.

02:10:54.900 I'll back this jockey.

02:10:56.640 And by the way, you have a lot of my favorite men in that text.

02:11:00.160 I have some good friends with Banks as well.

02:11:01.960 And I was on a call with you one time.

02:11:03.500 We didn't get to talk about play to earn today.

02:11:06.280 But Wolf Game.

02:11:07.080 Yep.

02:11:08.100 Which you went crazy on.

02:11:10.520 You know what's funny about that?

02:11:11.760 Do you know why I tell everybody not to?

02:11:13.540 By the way, Wolf Game.

02:11:14.520 You know, AJ called me.

02:11:15.720 We were talking yesterday.

02:11:17.360 Wolf Game has been so innovative.

02:11:19.520 Yeah, for sure.

02:11:20.720 This last game. 0.99

02:11:21.520 i'm like that's like fucking zelda like wait i can like burn the like burning the bush in zelda 0.99

02:11:26.460 in 1986 was the greatest thing of all time because video games didn't let you pick and choose shit 0.98

02:11:31.140 and i'm like wait a minute i can do the candle here and i can go down this thing i can push the 0.79

02:11:34.820 boulder yeah so what they just built they've been really innovative but one of the reasons i so i i

02:11:40.500 thought they were creative and i did bet heavy you're right but the reason i keep telling everybody

02:11:45.320 please do not buy what i buy one of the reasons i bought wolf game so heavy was like this feels

02:11:51.320 very innovative i want to stay close to this project and the space the space i'm definitely

02:11:56.740 but this project i'm going to stay close to this one because they're going to do some things that

02:12:01.480 i might want to do for v friends got it and so this is why i'm like keep telling everybody look

02:12:05.680 uh i bought uh 8-bit the other day because i've known addison the artist since he was an intern

02:12:12.120 or junior designer at dig.com for kevin rose 15 years ago and and i tweeted a smiley face at him

02:12:19.220 on Saturday because 8-Bit was going viral

02:12:20.980 and his reply and I went to go DM him

02:12:23.240 the last time I DM'd him was in 2009

02:12:25.400 and I went to DM

02:12:27.240 him this is 12 years 13 years ago

02:12:29.140 I go to DM him and he said

02:12:31.060 this blew me away I just sent him a tweet

02:12:33.340 smile he replies

02:12:35.140 Gary it's so crazy I

02:12:37.040 vividly remember you and I talking

02:12:39.160 about Walt Disney seeing

02:12:41.180 what you're doing and so like back to

02:12:43.080 when you were saying hey

02:12:44.540 we didn't finish that whole energy

02:12:46.480 DRock will tell you VFriends has been in the work for the

02:12:49.180 last five years i was going to come out with something called workplace warriors five years

02:12:53.240 ago which were going to be desk toys because i was getting so many emails from people saying i

02:12:58.060 hate my job and i was like you know what i was walking around my office one day after this is

02:13:01.980 how everything works for me read another dm of another person that says gary what do i do it's 0.99

02:13:07.400 113 i hate my fucking boss i can't fucking do this anymore and i'm like affected by reading this shit 0.99

02:13:13.380 i go to take a piss in my office and i walk by all these people working for me and i look and 0.99

02:13:17.980 every one of them has simpsons has south park has all these batman right and i'm like you know what

02:13:23.680 all these people email me and dm me mainly during the day when they're pissed why don't i make some

02:13:29.360 characters because i love toys and tchotchkes collectibles you know how i roll i was like let

02:13:33.600 me make something called workplace warriors maybe if they see patient parrot i called it i made it a 0.94

02:13:37.980 panda eventually patient panda right or like maybe if like when their boss is like you're a dick and 0.77

02:13:43.200 they look at that and be like you're like i was just trying to think of like that so for me i know 0.96

02:13:47.960 for the world this all seems new like how am i going to do this this shit's been no it's always 0.71

02:13:52.520 been in there and how it happened to manifest was v friends that's right it's cool i never knew what 0.77

02:13:56.800 an nft was going to be yeah i didn't realize that's how it was going to manifest the medium

02:14:00.160 is perfect for it but i always knew what i was building with vayner media which was i'm going

02:14:03.840 to build a marketing infrastructure that i can deploy against actual businesses not a client 0.95

02:14:07.220 service business an operating system and it's starting to fucking come together yeah you stole 0.99

02:14:11.440 my dev team sorry do you ever get sorry was so unapologetic like no fuck uh business is business 1.00

02:14:19.940 he's an assassin dude he said he killed me he killed me he killed me he killed my launch date 0.99

02:14:26.560 fuck listen do you ever get flamed for your poor investments especially in the nft space 1.00

02:14:32.240 no because because i'm also not a day trader like 99 of people like i'm buying things then why don't 0.99

02:14:40.500 you buy on one force why did i didn't you because i missed it and you know what i did i bought i

02:14:47.120 bought the artist collaborations that he made um like a month before about bored apes did you see

02:14:54.080 that uh the artist of of own one yeah he's very good he's very good he's very good yeah i really

02:15:01.300 like him a lot i loved that project it really was a shame how here's the problem with all these

02:15:05.520 projects which is it's too early again everybody has to play with money they can afford to lose

02:15:11.100 the reason i say this is you're guessing right now we're just forming all of this like having

02:15:16.560 a good week on open c means nothing you have to build a company even v friends who has a track

02:15:22.860 record on operator even board ape which is the dominant leader even world of women which is

02:15:27.740 dominant leader in that genre it's just too early it's only one year that one was weird though

02:15:32.820 That one, the 0-1 or whatever.

02:15:35.600 It was a preview.

02:15:36.480 There's been a lot of things that have gone

02:15:37.840 since then.

02:15:40.180 But to that level?

02:15:41.200 Yeah, there's been some others.

02:15:42.300 I mean, I've been very out of the game

02:15:43.380 the last four or five months

02:15:44.120 because I've been literally waiting

02:15:45.340 for this moment today.

02:15:47.440 But yeah, I mean,

02:15:48.960 there's been a lot of projects.

02:15:49.860 Like what's going on with,

02:15:51.000 with What's It Called's right now,

02:15:52.440 the number one mover.

02:15:54.060 Moonbirds?

02:15:54.480 Yeah.

02:15:54.980 Well, Moonbirds is an easy one.

02:15:56.280 Like to me, that's,

02:15:57.460 for me, Kevin Rose

02:15:58.420 is what I'm telling everybody I am today.

02:16:00.340 Right.

02:16:00.840 I've seen Kevin operate for 15 years.

02:16:02.820 that feels to me

02:16:04.200 as like one of the things

02:16:05.160 that I'm most bullish on.

02:16:07.520 Here's why.

02:16:08.200 You know who you want to bet on?

02:16:09.500 If you know somebody well enough

02:16:10.900 to know that they're scared

02:16:11.840 to have their reputation hurt.

02:16:14.500 Kevin will work on that

02:16:15.600 for the rest of his life

02:16:16.380 just to make sure

02:16:17.540 it's not a good thing.

02:16:19.160 That's back to like

02:16:20.500 we were talking about bad behavior.

02:16:21.480 You really nailed it.

02:16:22.700 What I'm really upset about

02:16:23.780 is I see a lot of young

02:16:24.720 22, 25, 29 year olds

02:16:26.560 that have it

02:16:27.200 and they're so addicted

02:16:28.820 by the short term need

02:16:30.040 that they're willing to compromise

02:16:31.720 their reputation

02:16:32.540 in perpetuity for three million bucks a beef right now and it's too bad you know anyone like

02:16:37.660 pride over progress big as death yeah yeah i mean we know a lot of people pride is actually at least

02:16:43.320 a pretty world i actually think it's short term i mean coachella just happened right i'm sure you

02:16:50.460 boys had a nice time i was at easter like a good christian i threw up on my crush good and so you

02:16:56.780 So on that note, I pissed in a cop from 10,000 people.

02:17:01.320 So I think on that front, you know, there's a lot of people who literally the weeks leading

02:17:06.020 up to that event in NFT land, I was watching people literally compromised their, their

02:17:13.220 compromised themselves for 20,000 bucks because they needed to go hard at Coachella.

02:17:17.520 You know what, you know what the main problem with, with, uh, with pride is wrestling with

02:17:22.880 it?

02:17:23.080 No, it's that the D is not an M drink prime. 0.99

02:17:25.760 motherfucker let's go let's go dude sorry sorry have you tried prime no gary i haven't tried it 0.98

02:17:35.080 bet on the jockey gary well who's the actually let's talk about that well okay there's there's 0.99

02:17:40.240 two main ones and then a third one who i don't know if he'll be named on this show that's fine

02:17:44.080 he shall not be named who's operating the business for real there are two of them

02:17:48.340 and i bet on those jockeys and they are the best in the business and it's why our product is doing

02:17:54.360 so well thank you thank you and it's healthy for you so far just popped it open drank it it's 0.96

02:17:59.000 scary dude i like it but i like all sorts of sugary shit uh there's only two grams of sugar 0.94

02:18:03.960 i'm sure but there's some other fucking no you've got something in here no no what what you're 0.99

02:18:08.680 tasting is sucralose right yeah i have a question yes um you ever do cocaine never you ever i've 0.99

02:18:15.360 never done cocaine i've never i've never done a drug in my entire life my mom got so nag so 0.90

02:18:20.400 No Nancy Reagan doubt in the 80s. 1.00

02:18:24.380 Yeah, I just, I never have.

02:18:25.940 No weed?

02:18:26.780 No weed.

02:18:27.400 You've never smoked weed?

02:18:28.680 I have not.

02:18:30.100 Whoa.

02:18:30.980 And I went to like my college experience.

02:18:33.820 Huge shout out to the Mount Ida boys.

02:18:35.820 My friends smoked seven blunts to the face every day.

02:18:40.040 Yeah, yeah.

02:18:40.560 And you did not join them?

02:18:42.240 I promise.

02:18:43.000 My mom sat me down when I was like 15 or 16

02:18:45.060 and was like, promise me you'll never do drugs.

02:18:47.800 And I said, I promise.

02:18:49.120 And that was locked and loaded.

02:18:49.960 was that the only thing because i had it i had it too my mom was uh no no motorcycles no guns

02:18:56.400 and no tattoos but she left the heroin out and i went straight to it bro i i've never done drugs

02:19:07.440 and so how often you get pretty drunk drunk never really so it's all the same game for me i don't

02:19:16.180 I think I like the feeling of not knowing exactly

02:19:18.600 what's going on at every second.

02:19:19.860 Oh, man.

02:19:21.020 But then how do you, but then we are me, dude.

02:19:23.820 I love you so much.

02:19:24.660 An older, more successful, 1.00

02:19:26.180 less Middle Eastern version of George. 1.00

02:19:28.220 This is so awesome.

02:19:29.060 Watching you be so successful

02:19:30.620 and have such a strong mindset of being you

02:19:32.540 is so refreshing. 1.00

02:19:33.680 Because people say that shit to me all the time. 0.99

02:19:35.040 They're like, dude, we love how you stand up 1.00

02:19:36.320 for what you believe in.

02:19:37.140 Even the people that don't believe in what I believe in.

02:19:39.040 They just, it's so rare to watch people.

02:19:40.400 You know what's awesome though?

02:19:41.720 But what I also like is like,

02:19:43.940 the thought of like judging people in either way,

02:19:47.180 like it's so weird to me.

02:19:48.700 Like, you know, a lot of people have gotten

02:19:50.000 so much healthier, like my dad's super pissed.

02:19:51.900 He's like, he's like rapping.

02:19:54.240 He's not like, you know, he's like not like,

02:19:56.740 it's so funny, he has a wine store, a liquor store.

02:19:58.960 He's like, it seems like the cool people

02:20:00.900 don't want to drink anymore, right?

02:20:02.800 Like the health trend.

02:20:03.900 Okay, okay, okay, okay, absolutely, 100%.

02:20:06.940 And he's like, I read this thing, these girls,

02:20:08.860 they say they drink mocktails now.

02:20:10.480 I'm like, he's always like worried.

02:20:11.900 They're like, I'm like, dad, calm down.

02:20:13.540 You're going to retire just fine.

02:20:14.580 It's going to be fine. 1.00

02:20:15.040 It's fucking alcohol. 1.00

02:20:15.480 She's always going to be drunk. 1.00

02:20:16.460 Yeah, exactly.

02:20:17.540 But, you know, it's interesting.

02:20:19.180 Like, watching the last five to seven years,

02:20:21.300 a lot more people are willing to say

02:20:23.280 at like seven, 10, 15 person gatherings,

02:20:25.800 like, I don't drink.

02:20:26.820 And like, watching people like,

02:20:28.540 like, want them to drink.

02:20:30.620 I'm like, what? 1.00

02:20:31.060 Oh, yeah, that's fucked. 0.99

02:20:31.800 But it goes both ways. 1.00

02:20:32.960 Like, to me, like,

02:20:34.080 I actually am very happy

02:20:35.480 with the conversation we're having with drugs.

02:20:37.900 Meaning, psychedelics, mushrooms.

02:20:40.540 I mean, I probably,

02:20:41.760 if I was to ever I think I think there's so much profoundness to fungi like just scientifically

02:20:48.600 like curiosity I think there's a lot going on in that world um and so I just you know I think

02:20:54.260 everything and anything and everything in moderation is right it's always too far in the

02:20:58.500 extremes is where things get dangerous um but yeah I've always been unbelievably comfortable

02:21:02.840 of like yo this is how I roll I know that a lot of people especially in their teens and 20s like 0.64

02:21:07.880 That's when it was like ridiculous. 0.57

02:21:10.340 That's when I knew I was set. 0.92

02:21:12.080 By not succumbing to any peer pressure

02:21:14.340 in high school and college,

02:21:16.460 I was like, I'm a beast. 0.99

02:21:17.780 If I really don't give a fuck now, 1.00

02:21:19.620 the fuck is going to happen later. 1.00

02:21:22.120 Go ahead. 1.00

02:21:23.560 I didn't do any of it.

02:21:25.740 The first time I smoked weed was 25

02:21:27.240 and I asked my parents.

02:21:29.200 I sat them down with a joint.

02:21:30.400 I was like, hey, this is the statistics.

02:21:31.680 This is what I want to do.

02:21:32.720 Worst decision I ever made in my life.

02:21:34.200 Why? Because they smoke weed now?

02:21:35.380 No, none of them smoke weed.

02:21:36.440 the battling of quitting

02:21:38.820 is

02:21:39.460 bro I have an addictive personality

02:21:42.040 that's why a lot of relatives of mine

02:21:43.700 lost their life to gambling, drinking

02:21:45.220 that's why when these guys do things

02:21:46.980 I sit them down and I go

02:21:48.060 yo you guys going too far with it

02:21:50.340 I can't stop myself from doing what I want to do 0.94

02:21:53.920 I don't give a fuck about what you guys want to do

02:21:56.280 if I want to do it and it's bad for me 0.76

02:21:58.040 I've never been caught in this situation 1.00

02:21:59.680 and it's a bitch 1.00

02:22:00.900 I don't often get 1.00

02:22:04.060 influenced

02:22:05.660 by my peers in a way that like affects actual change even like the thought of like being

02:22:12.640 influenced but i will say when we were in new york and we were talking at that table and like

02:22:16.500 i'm pretty sure i was high i was definitely like drinking like espresso martinis my favorite drink

02:22:20.340 um and then i was i think i asked you like yo gary do you ever have fun like throw a drink

02:22:24.600 back you're like not really and you were definitely like taking the light that night

02:22:28.600 i was like man like i want to be as successful as gary but is this what it takes 0.89

02:22:35.180 because if so fuck that dude it's definitely not and by the way like i'm like to me for like the 0.99

02:22:42.480 reality is like it's all one big game of just knowing who the fuck you are for you and like 0.99

02:22:47.900 there's people that are a coach told me in a football a current nfl coach took a player 0.99

02:22:55.060 in a draft recently last year's draft um that he could have taken a player that they had way higher

02:23:03.340 on the draft board as a much better player

02:23:05.220 and he took the other player.

02:23:06.940 And I was like, that's so interesting.

02:23:08.240 I was like, we were getting into deep conversations

02:23:09.680 around athletes and things of that nature.

02:23:11.460 I said, why?

02:23:12.220 And then he said something profound.

02:23:14.160 He goes, this player that went to a different team,

02:23:17.560 a couple picks later, had a great year.

02:23:20.460 He goes, this player on a Friday night,

02:23:24.640 on a Saturday night, excuse me, on a Saturday night,

02:23:27.440 the day before a game, will go out.

02:23:30.340 And he'll go out to 2.30 in the morning in the club.

02:23:32.280 Oh, wow.

02:23:33.340 And you know what he's going to do on Sunday?

02:23:34.580 And I'm like, what?

02:23:35.160 It was like really cool. 0.99

02:23:35.920 I was like, like shit the bed. 0.99

02:23:37.380 He's like, no, he's going to go eight catches 0.99

02:23:39.900 for 137 yards on the touchdown. 1.00

02:23:41.540 Shut the fuck up, yeah. 1.00

02:23:42.740 I go, okay. 1.00

02:23:43.820 He goes, the problem is that same Saturday night,

02:23:46.460 he's going to bring six teammates with him 0.99

02:23:48.220 and those six guys are going to shit the bed. 0.96

02:23:51.240 I'm like, the player we took is the eighth player 0.99

02:23:53.740 in that story and he's going to stop

02:23:55.460 the other six from going out.

02:23:57.720 Whoa.

02:23:59.660 He's playing chess.

02:24:00.680 and so to me

02:24:02.200 I just thought

02:24:03.620 that was really interesting

02:24:04.600 and the reason

02:24:05.480 I bring that up

02:24:06.060 is that one kid

02:24:07.220 that he was talking to

02:24:07.960 he can go party 1.00

02:24:09.280 and fucking be productive 0.99

02:24:10.280 right 0.99

02:24:11.340 this is just about

02:24:12.340 knowing yourself

02:24:12.900 we all

02:24:14.000 everybody who's watching

02:24:15.240 and listening right now 0.99

02:24:16.120 this is one big fucking game 1.00

02:24:17.740 of being super dope 1.00

02:24:19.220 with yourself

02:24:19.900 for yourself

02:24:21.020 and if the people around you 1.00

02:24:22.580 don't fuck with that 1.00

02:24:23.480 fuck them 1.00

02:24:24.380 I love that 1.00

02:24:26.820 I love that

02:24:27.520 that's a great spot to end

02:24:28.760 if you're okay with it

02:24:29.980 I'm very okay with it.

02:24:30.940 This was a fantastic podcast, dude.

02:24:33.320 So glad we got you on.

02:24:34.660 Seriously, thanks for coming on.

02:24:35.900 Thanks for having me.

02:24:36.560 Yeah, of course.

02:24:37.160 Guys, go check out V Friends Series 1 and 2.

02:24:40.840 I got to do that right now.

02:24:41.940 Mike's going to do it when we get home.

02:24:43.620 Follow Gary on Instagram and Twitter, just at Gary Vaynerchuk.

02:24:47.880 Too many syllables.

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02:24:49.740 Gary V.

02:24:50.120 Oh, perfect.

02:24:50.500 That's true.

02:24:51.100 Perfect.

02:24:51.260 Thanks for now.

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02:24:53.680 Thanks a lot, deep friend of many years.

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02:24:59.080 joining us on this journey.

02:25:00.280 It's so much fun.

02:25:00.980 Hopefully you took a little value

02:25:02.080 or wisdom from this episode.

02:25:03.900 Use it in your life

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02:25:08.020 Take it easy.

02:25:08.760 Peace.

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