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00:00:30.540 Lisa, tell them about our new show.

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00:01:14.840 What?

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00:01:53.720 halloween he gets right up next to the microphone i hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each

00:01:59.120 other you've never seen italy so quiet as when the pope gets up to wink on halloween listen to

00:02:05.340 artists on artists on artists on artists every thursday on the iheart radio app apple podcasts

00:02:10.200 or wherever you get your podcasts and when i was me everyone that jumped out i was like really

00:02:14.680 like scared of but every time i went i'm not going around with you mate

00:02:18.380 I said, listen, if anyone's seen my ship ride, the pool is somewhere over there, mate.

00:02:25.460 No.

00:02:26.160 Wow.

00:02:26.700 I've never heard it shivering somewhere.

00:02:37.260 I think you might have just cost us a couple hundred thousand dollars.

00:02:41.000 Send me the bill.

00:02:42.360 Invoice me.

00:02:42.940 Hey, hey, whoa, whoa.

00:02:43.780 That's a Tony Stark maneuver.

00:02:45.760 Invoice me.

00:02:47.360 I will.

00:02:47.960 I will.

00:02:48.380 Should we do it?

00:02:49.540 I mean, look, my co-hosts aren't here.

00:02:51.060 We completely got ditched.

00:02:52.780 We just got off a panel at VCon.

00:02:54.840 And what are you drinking?

00:02:57.200 A little whiskey.

00:02:59.180 Can I get some whiskey?

00:03:00.620 Yes.

00:03:02.320 Yeah.

00:03:03.360 Logan needs a whiskey.

00:03:04.800 I'd like some whiskey if there's a...

00:03:06.540 Logan needs a whiskey.

00:03:07.260 Caitlin, if you could please facilitate some alcohol.

00:03:11.360 Some whiskey. 0.99

00:03:12.180 Damn. 1.00

00:03:12.940 A little whiskey. 0.99

00:03:14.020 It's 5 o'clock somewhere here.

00:03:16.520 I know I was late, Liam.

00:03:17.660 I'm sorry.

00:03:18.380 That's okay. I've been sat here and entertaining.

00:03:21.760 They were texting me.

00:03:22.960 They said you're really fired up and you were telling some good stories.

00:03:25.380 Thank you, Dylan.

00:03:26.300 I've got a lot of stories to tell.

00:03:27.980 I'm so excited, dude.

00:03:29.400 This is great.

00:03:30.340 We just had a sick panel, too.

00:03:31.900 Oh, yeah?

00:03:32.700 I mean, you and I.

00:03:33.620 I mean, you were there.

00:03:34.420 Oh, okay.

00:03:35.840 I thought you meant another panel.

00:03:37.500 No, you and I.

00:03:38.240 I was the one to your left at VCon on stage.

00:03:41.520 My scooter brother.

00:03:42.700 We scootered in.

00:03:44.100 Can we start, by the way?

00:03:45.180 Yeah, start the shot.

00:03:46.040 Caleb, we've been rolling.

00:03:47.680 Yeah.

00:03:47.860 Real loose start to the day

00:03:50.360 Loose off the goose

00:03:51.280 I think it's because

00:03:52.300 The Chick-fil-A just arrived

00:03:54.820 George is just standing there eating it

00:03:56.880 It's fine, you don't have to participate

00:03:58.600 I'm gonna wait, I'm gonna wait to eat 0.99

00:04:00.140 Does he look like he eats fucking Chick-fil-A, bro? 0.99

00:04:04.220 Yeah, you're a stud in real life, bro 0.99

00:04:05.800 I mean, you look good in the photos, but

00:04:07.900 I'm gonna start over

00:04:10.020 Hey guys, welcome back to Impulse

00:04:11.480 The number one podcast in the world

00:04:12.440 Thank you guys for listening, watching, viewing, and subscribing

00:04:14.420 We are here in Minneapolis, Minnesota

00:04:16.600 with Liam Payne

00:04:18.500 Liam Payne

00:04:19.800 thank you

00:04:20.900 that's cool

00:04:22.200 now that's one direction

00:04:23.680 you never know whether

00:04:24.220 to cheer for yourself

00:04:25.220 at that point

00:04:25.740 I've been caught

00:04:26.660 in that position

00:04:27.120 a few times

00:04:27.660 you know 1.00

00:04:28.680 fuck it 1.00

00:04:28.960 sometimes I do 1.00

00:04:29.400 cheer for myself

00:04:29.840 you deserve some cheers

00:04:31.320 thanks man

00:04:31.820 people were cheering

00:04:32.640 for you at VCon

00:04:33.260 yeah

00:04:34.060 that was good

00:04:34.880 by the way

00:04:35.760 I'm seeing some feedback

00:04:36.720 on Twitter

00:04:37.400 what do you think

00:04:38.180 let's cut to the viewers

00:04:39.740 took a screenshot

00:04:40.660 of one of the tweets

00:04:41.420 I saw

00:04:41.720 why did I

00:04:42.240 wow

00:04:43.520 you gotta be careful

00:04:44.640 you don't have

00:04:44.980 in the wrong folder

00:04:45.560 okay ready here's the tweet austin herwitz said don't let preconceived biases shut you off from

00:04:52.940 opportunities and experiences happy happy i opened myself up to listening to liam payne and logan

00:04:57.560 paul speak today at vcon to my surprise the most human conversation i've sat in on here in minneapolis

00:05:02.480 i mean there was a lot of big words i understood some of them that was amazing what a great

00:05:09.000 turnaround it was good right but she hated us i'm joking she did yeah she doesn't anymore prior no

00:05:14.980 we won we won we won austin over um but dude thanks for coming on impulsive number one podcast

00:05:19.980 in the world that's a fact why would i lie about something like that um we've been we've been

00:05:23.700 trying to get you on i think for some time now we've been crossing circles and uh i understand

00:05:27.260 you uh have sat here before i walked in i was late five minutes late sorry and uh you almost

00:05:32.700 fought cuevo at a club or something did i miss a story that happened like what wait i'm sorry

00:05:37.100 what wait wait what hold on this is okay okay this is wild are we going straight in with that

00:05:42.000 I didn't know what I was going to leave with.

00:05:43.400 Please leave.

00:05:44.540 Well, we were at Neon Carnival.

00:05:46.440 I was a little bit wasted.

00:05:48.080 I'd had a good time.

00:05:49.080 And I had a small table in the back somewhere that I was just kind of chilling on.

00:05:53.220 And my manager was having a conversation with somebody about, like, moments in life when you can't back down.

00:05:57.880 And then suddenly this moment happened where all these rappers jumped on my table.

00:06:01.540 And I was over a fence away.

00:06:03.220 But when I turned around, my table was full.

00:06:04.880 And I'm like, who are these guys?

00:06:06.860 So I held my old shirt off and whatever, and I was all drunk and stuff.

00:06:09.520 So I just thought, screw it, I'm going to vault the bar, whatever.

00:06:12.500 So I vaulted over and landed right in the middle of everyone.

00:06:14.760 And everyone's looking at me and the security are looking at me.

00:06:16.540 You're by yourself.

00:06:17.180 Yeah, I'm like, well, I was with him.

00:06:18.560 Okay.

00:06:19.020 And he was, I think this is probably his proudest moment that I stuck my card to my guard on this one.

00:06:23.700 But I turned around and I was like, everyone was all like really like super chill, whatever.

00:06:27.420 So I was like being really annoying.

00:06:29.220 So I was like slapping people in the back to say hi, but like really family.

00:06:32.040 Okay.

00:06:32.280 I'm like, good to see you, bro.

00:06:33.800 Like, how you doing?

00:06:34.800 Like, you don't want to sit by me sort of situation.

00:06:36.880 And then I noticed Quavo.

00:06:38.040 And I'm like, oh, we've sold a billion records together.

00:06:39.700 How are you doing?

00:06:40.200 He's like, oh, yeah, good to see you.

00:06:41.400 Not that's how Quavo talks.

00:06:42.820 He probably says, look, what's up?

00:06:44.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:06:45.640 And yeah, I mean, it was just a really weird, funny situation,

00:06:48.500 but it could have gone completely AWOL because I decided to vault the barrier.

00:06:52.300 Oh, yeah, because they didn't know who I was.

00:06:54.920 Right, they didn't know.

00:06:56.040 And also when I'm asking you.

00:06:57.400 Some random white dude with his shirt off.

00:06:59.060 Well, you're pretty recognizable.

00:07:01.380 Like, a lot of people know who you are.

00:07:02.420 It's an interesting conversation.

00:07:03.500 I often think that when I meet someone,

00:07:05.320 I expect them not to know who I am before I go there.

00:07:07.240 And I always feel like I have to,

00:07:08.520 you sometimes have this awkward conversation with people

00:07:10.160 where like you say your name

00:07:11.360 and then they don't kind of click onto who you are

00:07:12.920 and it's like, do I bother to go to the next level

00:07:14.680 to explain to you who I am

00:07:15.740 or does it really matter in this situation?

00:07:17.300 You shouldn't.

00:07:18.320 I think if anyone assumes that no one knows who you are,

00:07:21.260 it's like a good baseline level of humility.

00:07:23.380 Exactly.

00:07:23.680 And I want to say that my also first interaction

00:07:26.640 with you yesterday, you had your shirt off.

00:07:30.380 And looked like he was ready to fall over a fence.

00:07:32.440 You don't like shirts.

00:07:35.060 I don't know.

00:07:35.620 Well, I was quite a big guy a few months ago, so I'm going to celebrate.

00:07:40.280 No, as you should.

00:07:41.420 It was just an interesting juxtaposition now than seeing you today wearing a polo.

00:07:46.020 And still a nude somehow.

00:07:47.800 You know, it still could be like camouflage.

00:07:49.880 Yeah.

00:07:50.740 You know, I wasn't checking you out or anything, but you're in great shape.

00:07:53.180 Thank you, man.

00:07:53.880 I mean, I've been training at the moment.

00:07:55.120 In the UK, we play this game called Soccer Aid,

00:07:56.840 and it's a bunch of professional soccer players like Ronaldinho has played in the past

00:08:00.200 and mixed with celebrities.

00:08:04.040 So I'm the captain of the England team currently at the moment

00:08:06.620 who's never kicked a football in his life, by the way.

00:08:08.580 I was going to ask you.

00:08:09.100 I've had to learn for three months.

00:08:10.160 So you know you were saying earlier about projects that come along.

00:08:12.280 I find my life is a lot like that.

00:08:13.760 I ended up designing for Hugo Boss and that wasn't part of the thing.

00:08:16.680 I did an underwear commercial for them.

00:08:17.940 I did this, I did that.

00:08:19.060 And that's kind of why jumping into football and stuff,

00:08:21.300 it's like for me I get to play a role for a certain amount of months. 0.95

00:08:24.320 I put my arse into everything that I do. 0.66

00:08:26.520 So I mean I've trained like, I was training twice a day, six times a week. 0.97

00:08:30.860 You know, it's crazy.

00:08:31.460 um to learn how to play football so hopefully i'm something half decent and earn a captaincy

00:08:36.920 well it's it's it's really cool now watching your career because you get to do things like this and

00:08:41.220 you had such a fast explosive and and global come up so you're a part of one direction uh

00:08:48.560 probably the biggest boy band of all time and has yet to be replicated like i don't know if there's

00:08:54.400 like a like besides like the k-pop yeah i think some of the k-pop bands have kind of reignited

00:08:58.720 The thing, I mean, obviously we had five seconds of summer as well, they did pretty well.

00:09:03.480 I mean, if I was to explain to you, we talk about One Direction for a second,

00:09:06.880 like what I think about how One Direction happened,

00:09:09.380 because I've never really spoken about this before.

00:09:11.540 But I believe that at the same time, it was when worldwide Twitter trends had just started,

00:09:16.460 when we went on the show.

00:09:18.220 So every night the UK would kick up the action on One Direction,

00:09:21.740 it would become a trend in the UK, but then it would trend worldwide,

00:09:23.940 and then people around the world would go, oh, what is this?

00:09:25.800 and then they would click on

00:09:26.860 and then they'd find people

00:09:27.620 that like the same thing

00:09:28.340 they like

00:09:28.760 and da da da da da

00:09:29.420 so I actually think

00:09:30.160 it was a perfect storm scenario

00:09:31.520 of technology

00:09:32.760 mixed with something

00:09:33.800 that was

00:09:34.260 I mean I don't want to say

00:09:35.240 we were very good on the show

00:09:36.080 because we were very put together

00:09:37.220 on the show

00:09:37.540 we got very good

00:09:38.240 at what we did

00:09:38.740 but it made this

00:09:40.260 you know

00:09:41.300 land wave

00:09:41.940 of fans

00:09:43.520 and for me

00:09:44.480 while I was in there

00:09:45.200 the biggest thing

00:09:46.120 to ever come out of

00:09:47.320 X Factor

00:09:48.160 was a band called JLS

00:09:49.220 and they were very big

00:09:50.640 in the UK

00:09:51.200 so when we got

00:09:52.920 where we got to

00:09:53.500 I thought

00:09:53.800 oh we'll be just like JLS

00:09:55.120 like we'll be big in the UK and then like we started closing down streets in

00:09:59.140 the UK and like one one little girl like broke a leg by crossing the road and I

00:10:02.300 look it's big would close down streets was I thought okay this is gonna a

00:10:04.720 little bit strange I'm like 16 years old right so I thought I know what I'll do

00:10:08.140 if it gets too big I'll move to Australia and then the very next day

00:10:12.940 after expats I write you're going to Australia and my name had already beat

00:10:15.760 me there and that's when I knew I was like oh okay this is gonna go next like

00:10:20.680 where's the escape button

00:10:23.020 there's no you know

00:10:24.580 then you just took off

00:10:25.680 the product that you guys made

00:10:29.300 and I think like any

00:10:30.260 rapid expansion

00:10:32.660 always falls back

00:10:34.040 on the quality

00:10:37.440 of the product that's being delivered 0.97

00:10:39.000 your music was fucking fantastic 0.98

00:10:41.680 your music now is fantastic 0.97

00:10:42.860 you're very talented

00:10:43.500 I saw you perform last night with Steve Aoki

00:10:45.080 yeah it was great

00:10:46.220 I say on my solo career

00:10:48.240 the one thing I've struggled with is writing for myself

00:10:50.660 and I think I've just figured that out in the last few weeks with the project that I want to do.

00:10:54.800 But in the band, it was kind of fun to write.

00:10:57.120 You were almost jumping through hoops, and it's kind of like we let the first album go by.

00:11:00.240 I think I wrote a couple of songs on the first album.

00:11:02.160 But once you knew what the people wanted, it's very easy to redo it again,

00:11:06.680 and you know that the hoops have to jump through, right?

00:11:09.300 And the one thing we did very clever in One Direction,

00:11:11.780 if you go back and listen to the albums now,

00:11:13.200 is that every time we made a new album, we slightly turned the influence of rock up.

00:11:18.040 Slightly turned the influence.

00:11:19.060 To the point where on the fifth album, you know, I had the main singer from the Eagles message Nile and be like, that's the best song you've ever written.

00:11:26.180 And it was one of the songs that we wrote.

00:11:27.500 Wow.

00:11:27.980 You know, I mean, the amazing things.

00:11:30.120 And this is what was nice to me at the end to become an accomplished rock star.

00:11:32.780 Because you want to be in a boy band, but you don't want to be in a boy band that's cheesy.

00:11:36.320 You know what I mean?

00:11:36.720 It's like that kind of makes you edge away from it a little bit, not to say.

00:11:40.180 But for us, we became like a solidified rock band purely because of the peers around us and being people like Eddie Vedder, being, you know, what's his face in the Eagles?

00:11:48.240 it's like they actually gave us props for what we did i have a question when they grouped you

00:11:54.080 guys in in the x it was x-factor uh did you know i've ruined everything liam liam paint i'm sorry

00:12:00.880 a little nipple tickle there you know i just it was so far away he's about to vault over the table

00:12:05.200 i don't know how to take his shirt off i don't know how often you're dealing with microphones

00:12:07.840 but it was just it was like am i too far am i close enough now that's it personally i like

00:12:12.400 I like hearing you in my earlobe.

00:12:15.100 Let's let you in the ASMR.

00:12:16.540 I like hearing you write just in my skull.

00:12:19.240 Okay, perfect.

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00:12:59.200 back to the show when i first watched uh you guys kind of come together i thought it was kind of

00:13:03.840 like a thing that the x factor pretended to manufactured yeah i thought it was fake so my

00:13:08.620 question is if you're showing it is real so like when you met the other members of the band were 0.95

00:13:13.880 you like oh fuck this bro or you know no no no no no i'll be honest with you i'll be honest with 0.92

00:13:18.280 you when i met the other members of the band i mean i as a kid i didn't really have a tremendous 0.99

00:13:22.880 amount of friends i wasn't used to like rowdy guys and i kind of hung around with my dad a lot

00:13:26.680 i'm honest with you my dad was the reason that i went on the show but i'd already been on the show

00:13:29.900 two years prior to the band being made and what happened when i was on the show the first time

00:13:33.220 i went on and i sang and i got from 180 000 people down to the last 24 so it's a step before

00:13:38.600 like you're like making it and simon kicked me off and then the weirdest thing happened all the

00:13:43.180 contestants were simon had dinner with me and my mom and the manager of one direction was at that

00:13:48.340 dinner but he also worked around expats for a very long time i know this is a high conspiracy theory

00:13:52.420 um so we had dinner and simon was like i'm really sorry i had to let you go like i didn't want to

00:13:56.660 let you go but you have to go and get your education and come back in two years and at this

00:14:00.160 point i was i was very i was really mad at simon because i thought i beat the kid that got through

00:14:03.940 I was like I know that I outdid that you know sorry to that kid um well not sorry where is that

00:14:09.380 kid now where is he uh he has a nice life um so then two years later I came I spent two years of

00:14:16.760 my life going around singing everywhere from stadiums myself being the wolf stadium that

00:14:22.100 the football stadium I grew up in to old people's homes to like in pubs like whatever to the point

00:14:27.080 where at the start of it I was getting paid so much money that I'd never seen money like it

00:14:30.800 before because we were we didn't have any money when i was a kid and so it was amazing and then

00:14:34.720 towards the end of it through my dad's drive and my drive the car ride to the venue would be more

00:14:39.540 than i'd be getting paid in fuel to go and sing but my dad would take me and do that anyway so

00:14:44.180 i've seen i've seen fame go up and then i've also been in places where i've been ridiculed where

00:14:49.600 i was in a mcdonald's once with a girl i was with at the time and like everybody in the city knew 0.95

00:14:53.620 who i was so i got to take a bite out of a fucking burger and then this guy just goes x factor 0.96

00:14:57.140 a reject and the whole fucking thing goes on so i'm like you know 15 years old no security 0.99

00:15:01.880 i've tried to do something i haven't done it but because i haven't moved now i'm i'm 0.97

00:15:06.160 for people really cool to me anyway fast forward i go on the show and it's very obvious on x-factor

00:15:11.320 who's gonna do well because the cameras follow you all the time and i became like everyone's

00:15:15.180 nemesis at like boot camp which was a really weird place to be because oh that's the kid

00:15:18.480 that was on before and whatever so i had a lot of that sort of stuff and i'm still only 16 by the

00:15:23.040 way um so i i myself wouldn't have put me through if i'm honest with you i don't think i was i was

00:15:30.740 good enough for the standard of what it was i think i landed perfectly where i was and we got

00:15:35.140 kicked off all of us and then me and niall were about to go and get the train in houston and this 0.74

00:15:39.240 woman came running behind us and was like yo like please come back the judges want to speak to you 0.67

00:15:42.560 and they'd already done this to me once so i was like what the are you gonna mess with my emotions

00:15:46.020 more like i'm already crazy enough thank you very much like i'm not sure i need this and then they

00:15:50.140 stood there and picked us out and they picked a girl by now at the same time and from what i've

00:15:54.400 heard is that like part of the reason one direction was made was because of simon's promise to me that

00:15:59.600 in two years i'll make this work for you wow so he kind of started with my face and then worked

00:16:04.520 around the the rest of them never told us you you were you were the inception i was the honorary

00:16:10.160 member of one direction yes and he told me that story himself in his house wow how were the rest

00:16:14.940 of the people i gotta i gotta preface this question by the way i'm old i'm like 90 bro

00:16:20.080 so for me like my old well my my boy bands are like backstreet boys and sync yeah you know what

00:16:27.440 i'm saying like so so like dylan's been like briefing me and of course i know you guys and

00:16:32.560 respect you guys heavily and you guys are have crushed it but how did how did they choose the

00:16:37.360 rest of the the group that bit i don't know got it that bit i don't know um i should ask my ex

00:16:44.560 partner actually because she was part of the choosing that but she was there on that day

00:16:47.920 Um, yeah, I don't know how they chose the rest of them, but I mean, they made the right

00:16:51.300 choices.

00:16:52.300 It's crazy.

00:16:53.300 And to see, to see where we got to now, I mean, the very first time I met them, I was,

00:16:56.380 I was like, this was not aired on TV and I don't know why I did this, but there was just

00:17:00.880 something inside me that I had to just put my flag in the sand, in the sand early, but

00:17:03.600 I've been doing this.

00:17:04.520 This was my last chance to do what I do.

00:17:05.900 And I've been doing this for a very long time now and I've experienced all of it.

00:17:08.420 And like the guys who were behind me have literally just jumped on the show and now

00:17:11.600 they're going through.

00:17:12.780 So I was like, can I have five minutes to decide?

00:17:16.120 This was just before One Direction was made.

00:17:17.400 I went out and I called my dad I was like dad I was like this is weird I know I just told you I'm

00:17:21.080 out but they want to put me in a boy band like what do you think about it he said well you can

00:17:25.380 either be a hundred percent of nothing or one fifth of something and I thought hmm very clever

00:17:30.280 Jeffrey so I went outside and I said yeah I'm in but I was you know what it's like I say I wasn't

00:17:35.760 used to like rowdy guys and whatever else and like were the boys rowdy yeah in particular a couple of

00:17:41.040 them yeah which ones like Louis was wild Louis was wild and he wanted to be wild and he's that's

00:17:46.620 his spirit and also he's my best mate now but in the band we hated each other like to come to

00:17:51.220 blows hate each other like it was like it was close but it's like his journey than mine was

00:17:56.260 a little bit different i was gifted every week with the fact that i got to sing the first verse

00:17:59.320 because my job is because i'd done so many gigs before they'd send me out to sing with a camera

00:18:04.060 of 20 million people watching with the red light on and i wouldn't freeze and then everybody else

00:18:08.000 go it's okay it's that's crazy how you have like roles that you fulfill yeah each each member of

00:18:14.520 And what you find in bands is whoever's not singing so much will find their voice behind the stage.

00:18:23.020 And Louis did find his voice behind the stage, and he found his voice later on in the rest of the albums.

00:18:26.960 And I would happily say now, without him doing that, even though sometimes it was the absolute death of me,

00:18:33.460 he made all the right choices that I wouldn't have made.

00:18:35.940 So it's like the weirdest thing ever.

00:18:38.040 It was me leading the band from the front on stage and making sure everybody's in the right position and stuff.

00:18:41.580 There's him from behind the stage making critical decisions on what songs we do whereas I'm like

00:18:45.820 I don't even know if I like this song or not

00:18:47.440 But he knew what we should be. He knew what he wanted to identify as and you know

00:18:51.620 That's why he's out and touring at the moment as well

00:18:53.220 So hats off to him and I know you wouldn't mind me saying any of this but he was crucial crucial crucial even without the singing that started

00:18:59.100 You said you took almost blows at each other but was that

00:19:02.740 Oh sorry

00:19:03.300 Welcome to the podcast man

00:19:04.600 What's up with you and Mike's?

00:19:05.000 Well you've been doing it on the past

00:19:06.660 I'm so sorry

00:19:07.420 It's because you don't have headphones on

00:19:08.560 Yeah 0.99

00:19:08.820 Hey, before you ask that question, miss the Emory Hotel plug again for the 12th fucking time. 1.00

00:19:13.280 We suck. 0.99

00:19:13.660 Great hotel, Emory Hotel, Minneapolis, Minnesota. 0.99

00:19:17.020 Thanks for having us.

00:19:19.260 Rustic decor, lighting is fantastic.

00:19:22.560 They have steel beams.

00:19:23.560 Steel beams.

00:19:24.360 That might even be marble. 0.99

00:19:26.100 There's a fucking whole restaurant, coffee shop. 0.99

00:19:28.660 The column's nice. 1.00

00:19:29.260 The restaurant's amazing.

00:19:30.400 The restaurant's nice.

00:19:31.460 My question is, was the beef between you guys and Justin Bieber? 1.00

00:19:35.300 Whoa, just get, just roll and set, fuck the whole discussion. 0.99

00:19:38.600 you're out of control i like it i'm just i really want to know because i've always wanted to like 0.99

00:19:44.440 no no no so what happened would be i mean listen this stuff just happens anyway right so

00:19:49.800 we had a similar thing with with the wanted and with the bieber one i think it was me and i was

00:19:55.640 i was we used to go back to the hotel i'd get absolutely wasted and we used to play this game

00:20:00.440 called um a ring of fire with a card you draw a card each card means something whatever else you

00:20:05.160 You know, we do apps.

00:20:06.140 I mean, I fire extinguisher in someone's room with the powder fire extinguisher.

00:20:09.400 And he was orange for like eight weeks.

00:20:11.820 And so one night I was like on Instagram live at the same time.

00:20:15.420 I'm like, I was drunk at the time when I said it.

00:20:16.840 And I was like, someone compared, said something about Justin Bieber to me or whatever.

00:20:20.580 And I wasn't even meaning to offend him.

00:20:21.940 I wanted to offend them.

00:20:22.980 And this is where this can go wrong.

00:20:24.240 If you start fighting people in line for no reason.

00:20:26.300 I was like, well, I mean, the only thing between me and him is I haven't been arrested.

00:20:29.760 So then it started some like beef thing.

00:20:32.000 That's so late.

00:20:32.960 That's light.

00:20:33.960 That is light.

00:20:34.920 so then it started to be

00:20:36.200 no it's not

00:20:36.620 coming at my boy 0.71

00:20:38.460 Biebs like that

00:20:39.340 I'm just kidding 1.00

00:20:39.980 bro

00:20:40.280 I'm a smooth criminal

00:20:41.920 I don't get arrested

00:20:42.460 for anything

00:20:42.940 yeah

00:20:45.900 and so it started

00:20:46.520 this thing

00:20:46.860 so then everybody

00:20:47.280 started getting a bit

00:20:47.860 like you see each other

00:20:48.960 at award shows

00:20:49.560 and obviously like

00:20:49.960 we're boys in a band

00:20:50.680 you're like a boy

00:20:51.620 not in a band

00:20:52.960 so it makes sense

00:20:53.820 that we should hate

00:20:54.260 each other right

00:20:54.620 so like

00:20:55.920 and obviously our fan bases

00:20:57.120 cross generate

00:20:57.960 so it's actually

00:20:58.520 as much the fans

00:20:59.200 pushing this boundary

00:21:00.520 as you are

00:21:01.280 so I thought

00:21:02.240 you know what 0.74

00:21:02.680 screw it

00:21:03.180 we're at the show 0.88

00:21:03.760 the boys in my trailer

00:21:04.900 were getting a bit rowdy i don't want to see any any any violence man so i thought i'm very matthew

00:21:10.300 mcconaughey i thought i'll just go and say hello to him so i knocked him on i knocked on his door

00:21:13.820 when i had a chat with him and i was just like we started talking and it was in a different place in

00:21:18.480 bieber's head at this point he'd come through all of the you know skirting around in lamborghinis

00:21:21.860 on the on the thing you know all that oh yeah he'd grown as a person and literally it was sitting

00:21:27.320 with him and having that conversation and i was like dude he's like i've always felt for you i

00:21:33.000 I said, number one, I've done all the things that you've done,

00:21:35.260 and I've never been caught for any of them.

00:21:36.560 So that's number one.

00:21:38.280 Number two, is that legal if I say that?

00:21:42.120 Am I now caught for doing something?

00:21:43.180 I never did.

00:21:43.540 No, no, no, no.

00:21:44.420 What are you talking about?

00:21:45.700 Statute of limitation.

00:21:46.640 Yeah, exactly.

00:21:47.200 I'm out of it.

00:21:47.580 You're talking about like jaywalking and that kind of thing.

00:21:48.980 I said to him, I said, number two, I said, you know what?

00:21:50.720 I've always really felt for you, mate.

00:21:51.920 And I think in our situation, we all suffer from the same disease in this.

00:21:56.020 I said, and when I look at my boys and I turn left and right,

00:21:58.440 I've got someone who's going through exactly what I'm going through.

00:22:00.380 i know in your camp you're you and there's no one like you so you can't turn around and have that

00:22:05.100 shoulder and he was like bro that's giving me chills yeah and we came from some rivalry you

00:22:09.660 said that on the panel today yeah and i i i told you i related to that too it's it's it is a

00:22:15.100 different ballpark when you're in it solo and and bieber definitely went through the yeah the ringer

00:22:20.620 dude and i said listen i say this to every young kid coming into this business as soon as i meet

00:22:25.580 them i'm like look if you want to call me i'm not trying to like put ownership over you that i know

00:22:29.660 know more than you or any of that kind of crap all i'm saying is if something happens like call me

00:22:34.760 and any help i can give you i will give you but if i can't then i'll let you know i'll find somebody

00:22:38.280 who can basically so it's like you know trying to help each other because we're all we're all

00:22:42.200 we're all not i don't want to say suffering from the same disease it makes it sound very like sad

00:22:45.920 and horrible and like oh whatever but it is we all have this thing about us that we have to

00:22:48.980 we have to live with that's part of our fame and i think it's better if we all stick together and

00:22:53.100 start you know throwing the v's of each other i agree i i also think i think a boy band versus

00:23:01.040 like a solo artist like actual brawl would have been highly entertaining no i think bieber can

00:23:05.160 hold his own man oh i'm sure he ends but one on five i heard he could i heard he could box

00:23:09.500 like for real box like bieber when i watch bieber one he's mastered every single instrument he was

00:23:15.580 playing drums from since you know i was not doing that i was banging my head off stuff when i was

00:23:19.760 his age and you know crying to my mom um and then you watch him if he picks up a hockey stick

00:23:24.220 he'll master the hockey stick he's just one of those guys he's good at everything so i'm not

00:23:28.380 gonna say a thing he just like he probably pull out some you know he was on that movie with thingy

00:23:33.060 um with jackie chan oh yeah oh yeah right kid yeah pull some you know some flair out and just

00:23:37.760 start high kicking everyone imagine that just bieber just roundhouse and everyone great movie

00:23:43.680 roadhouse what move what movie in the beginning did bieber get like like like brutally like

00:23:49.560 he got like shot a hundred times via a machica like it was it was like parody movies yes yeah

00:23:55.760 but they they smoke like scary movies or something like that yeah yeah so was that was did you see

00:24:01.360 him before the whole this was after the like album show because you guys had your your own like 0.98

00:24:06.220 kanye west versus uh 50 cent moment like where it was like whose album's gonna sell more fucking 0.67

00:24:12.820 uh copies on the release date right yeah this is the thing i don't even know what any of that 0.59

00:24:17.180 stuff was about because i couldn't tell you who at that point had sold and hadn't sold more right

00:24:21.420 i know for us the bit that one of the biggest accolades i ever remember about was having the

00:24:26.620 the biggest selling tour in the world for three years in a row yeah and everywhere we used to go

00:24:30.540 we used to beat the the records in the venue the records of this you know it's right you know what

00:24:34.940 you didn't even look at that when you're in one direction it was really weird actually until it

00:24:37.660 finished and like i remember being on the phone to lou after and being like wow like that was

00:24:42.220 really something like until the dust clears you're like hmm you might have did a little thing there

00:24:46.620 you know what i mean um and yeah until the dust clears it's like you don't appreciate it for what

00:24:50.620 it is and and and regrettably so actually because i wish i'd have understood it more while i was in

00:24:54.300 the middle of it but like i mean you know there was a point where you know people were saying

00:24:57.900 oh you could probably fart bar bar black sheep on a mic and it'd go to number one and i was like

00:25:01.900 you know you just didn't appreciate it as much as you should have really right tunnel vision

00:25:05.580 you were like focused and then when you kind of yeah that was it no we you know what we never got

00:25:08.940 got time to celebrate that was the one thing in one direction that i always hated and so i mean

00:25:12.600 i started to celebrate really early into um into award shows i'd like i'd made sure i had a good

00:25:17.540 time i was there because i knew i was gonna be on a plane to japan and like sleeping on the floor

00:25:20.900 we used to have really big security guards and like i literally have slept like 14 hours on the

00:25:25.120 floor to japan before and woke up on the floor and then like been greeted by 6 000 people so crazy

00:25:30.320 man no that's that's insane how does like a how does a human brain comprehend something it doesn't

00:25:37.160 mate it doesn't i'm gonna show you one picture and i'll send it to you so you can you can flash

00:25:41.980 it up um but it's always my favorite one and this one i i we were making our movie at the time and

00:25:47.640 i really hated the movie crew for doing this to me because they woke me up and were like oh we

00:25:51.480 need to do a shot with you out on the balcony here you know whatever and i'm like okay cool i'll do

00:25:56.160 it they always used to ask me because i always used to say yes so they wake me up and i don't

00:26:00.980 know what's going on outside because i've only just landed in this country i've never been here

00:26:03.900 before and they go yeah just walk out on the balcony i walk out the balcony there's 15 000

00:26:08.320 people outside the hotel and i'm on my own which i'm not used to and i was like going into like

00:26:13.660 severe shock i'm like oh my god like what do you say and then they start chanting my name and i'm

00:26:17.020 on my own it was a really beautiful lovely moment but inside i was like oh my god this is terrifying

00:26:20.920 if i show you the picture so i mean like for most people's like big concerts like the o2 arena is

00:26:27.360 like 19 000 this was just our hotel and i am sure the hotel hated us because they had to provide

00:26:32.500 like ambulance services toilets food like so that used to be everywhere we we were

00:26:38.340 imagine being so famous that they have to give people toilets dude that's like some beetle 0.96

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00:27:50.440 Back to the episode.

00:27:51.700 Bro, you were very much in vault mode last night as well,

00:27:55.320 And I think before Logan got here, we were talking about your desire to get into some combat sports, right?

00:28:02.320 Yeah.

00:28:04.500 Is that something? 1.00

00:28:06.300 Because that shit's hot right now. 1.00

00:28:08.700 Combat sports are going nuts. 1.00

00:28:10.360 We spoke a little bit about this on stage, and I was identifying what you said.

00:28:14.360 And when I was a kid, what people used to say to us was, oh, my God, imagine the rooms you could get in.

00:28:18.260 And what that meant was the writing rooms.

00:28:20.260 So, you know, getting to work with people like Pharrell or whatever else.

00:28:21.840 But for me, it extended over to business rooms and meeting people like Gary Vee and whatever else.

00:28:26.180 Now, for me, it's like, if there's a chance for me to jump in a ring and have a go and see what that feels like to be gladiatorial in the 21st century, I'm in.

00:28:34.000 Like, let's do it.

00:28:34.980 It's the coolest thing ever.

00:28:35.920 Who would you fight?

00:28:36.400 Unless you get memed, bro.

00:28:37.440 And then everything you've done in your life is...

00:28:39.320 No, I disagree.

00:28:40.760 I disagree.

00:28:41.620 I think for someone at his level, like, you can't erase the resume.

00:28:47.860 No, I already see the memes.

00:28:48.760 He went the wrong direction. 1.00

00:28:49.980 Oh, fuck. 1.00

00:28:50.820 You know what? 1.00

00:28:51.300 You don't want to do it.

00:28:52.540 That could work in two favors, though.

00:28:54.800 He went the right direction.

00:28:56.420 Listen, I mean, you've been out there.

00:28:58.260 You know what it feels like.

00:28:59.240 And I don't know.

00:29:01.080 I just love boxing as a sport.

00:29:02.920 I think it's fantastic.

00:29:05.100 And I like a bit of a ruckus, let's say.

00:29:07.380 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:07.840 A very British way.

00:29:08.840 For sure.

00:29:10.460 I love a ruckus.

00:29:11.580 Your manager, that one, holding the beer?

00:29:13.080 Yeah.

00:29:14.140 They're all just getting drunk.

00:29:15.960 They're just sitting here.

00:29:16.840 They're just sipping.

00:29:17.940 They're not getting drunk.

00:29:18.500 I know for a fact your boys were out until, like, what did they say, 6 a.m. in Minnesota.

00:29:22.380 It's fine.

00:29:22.620 Yeah, they weren't messing around.

00:29:23.560 You're some real English blokes.

00:29:25.740 Proper English, mate.

00:29:26.920 Is this guy your personal trainer?

00:29:27.820 Proper peaky blinders.

00:29:29.200 Nope.

00:29:29.820 He told me, he told me, do you do jiu-jitsu or something?

00:29:34.140 Yeah.

00:29:34.700 They kind of complimented you.

00:29:35.860 To say he does jiu-jitsu is, like, listen, he's the kind of person, right, where I, like,

00:29:41.600 I just started to enjoy chess.

00:29:43.540 So I'm at home, like, playing chess, like, thinking I'm going to be, like, Robert Downing Jr.

00:29:47.500 you're in Sherlock Holmes like I'm going to be this like magical genius yeah he

00:29:50.760 comes into my house and sits down and says yeah we'll have a game as a game

00:29:54.700 beats me within four moves and I'm like okay so another game and third game he

00:30:00.580 goes yeah I used to be the county champion I'm like oh brilliant like

00:30:04.000 exactly who I wanted to play to ruin my dreams when it came to fight and there

00:30:07.480 was one time in my house where I was explaining a story where somebody had

00:30:13.540 butt me once and i i overextended the head butt and i headbutt him in the nose you were you were

00:30:21.120 recounting the story of something i had but him and literally all i saw was him stare back at me

00:30:28.340 he didn't bleed from here he bled from here so i knew i'd done something super serious and i was

00:30:33.000 like oh this is about to go down and he smiled at me and i was like yo he double leg took me

00:30:39.900 underneath got me on the floor and then i just literally start thinking i'm on the floor so i

00:30:45.020 don't really know what to do but them lig them ribs look mighty tasty right now so i just start

00:30:48.360 whacking him in the ribs i'm whacking him in the ribs and he did two things one to my wrist and 0.97

00:30:51.660 one to my neck and i went yeah okay i'll do like a fucking pretzel you smiled at you that i would 0.99

00:31:00.000 have shit my pants you fought your manager you fought yeah you had we fought we have a lot of 0.99

00:31:05.260 fights but i mean he trained we we've been blessed to go in and jujitsu i love as a sport just because 0.99

00:31:09.620 it's so concentrated there's so many things and it's a sensitivity to go in and fight in jiu-jitsu

00:31:13.280 and also it made me change my judgment on anyone that i would ever even like try to

00:31:17.260 you can't tell nowadays you can't tell nowadays who knows how to put it on marizio who his like

00:31:22.340 god or grandfather invented jiu-jitsu and he's 109 kilos he's 67 he sat on me the other week and

00:31:28.420 when i he put his knee on me and he he knows i had to put 109 kilos on a pinpoint and i was like

00:31:32.960 like i was in a seminar the other day and he accidentally made a guy fart which i thought

00:31:36.920 was really funny that's a six could you go into detail for that i would love to know how he made

00:31:41.480 this poor poor guy like they don't like questions because they are the gods of what they do but

00:31:45.860 marizio's explaining this maneuver and some little brown belt at the back just decided i thought i'll

00:31:50.880 ask a question at this point he deeply regretted it later on he goes oh what about if i did this

00:31:55.580 and marizio just said show me show me brings him to the front and then he did this whole thing the

00:32:02.140 guy tried to do what he did and then the guy just got wrapped up and then like marizio like lay back

00:32:06.360 and that's when he starts

00:32:06.860 to put his energy into him

00:32:07.620 so he's losing all his oxygen

00:32:08.640 and then the guy

00:32:09.540 was just like

00:32:09.920 and this room

00:32:12.000 was like

00:32:12.320 this room was full

00:32:13.320 of 80 people

00:32:14.420 and me and him

00:32:15.760 were like 1.00

00:32:16.140 poor fucker 1.00

00:32:17.280 like 1.00

00:32:18.260 I've never asked

00:32:19.560 Maurizio a question

00:32:20.320 since funnily enough

00:32:21.160 no he was being

00:32:23.140 he was being

00:32:23.580 really enthusiastic

00:32:24.260 about how tough

00:32:25.460 you are

00:32:25.780 he was saying

00:32:26.480 that when you guys

00:32:27.040 do jujitsu

00:32:27.800 you won't tap

00:32:29.060 you'll just fight 0.97

00:32:29.540 until you throw up 0.93

00:32:30.120 I've never tapped 0.91

00:32:30.820 I'd rather go out

00:32:31.980 just get knocked 0.97

00:32:33.160 unconscious

00:32:34.060 i've been trying to put myself to sleep for years and like thank god put me to sleep yeah let me

00:32:42.520 have a little rest a little time out so you fought your fire manager yeah have any of the boys uh in

00:32:47.580 the group ever actually come to come to blows not almost no no no we we came we came very close at 0.97

00:32:54.580 points i think it was well known within the band that i don't like taking shit right at a certain

00:33:01.800 point i made it very obvious i'm not going to tell you how um and there was one moment where

00:33:07.600 there was an argument backstage and someone one member in particular threw me up a wall

00:33:11.480 so i said to him if you don't remove those hands there's a high likelihood you'll never use them

00:33:15.800 again that is such a british thing to say it's just an awesome thing to say wait what was what

00:33:20.760 did he say after that oh he just took his hands off he went from liam payne to liam neeson

00:33:26.100 In like two seconds

00:33:28.320 He's like I have a very unique

00:33:30.300 I don't know why you have your hands on me

00:33:32.080 I have a very unique set of skills

00:33:34.260 I have a very particular set of skills

00:33:36.860 Mine sounds more like Peter Griffin

00:33:38.340 I have a very particular set of skills 1.00

00:33:40.140 From Krohawk 1.00

00:33:41.260 Dude do you know 1.00

00:33:42.460 I've had

00:33:44.100 An experience with one of your bandmates

00:33:47.820 Oh you do

00:33:48.800 Yeah and he's fired up

00:33:50.020 Which bandmate are we talking about

00:33:52.060 I already think I know

00:33:53.420 But just throw it in the mixer

00:33:54.740 Our boy Zane

00:33:55.600 x-band mate

00:33:57.000 Wayne

00:33:57.340 Wayne Malik

00:33:58.480 Wayne

00:33:59.860 yeah man

00:34:00.440 he we were in Vegas

00:34:01.520 and

00:34:01.860 well alright

00:34:02.940 this is like my

00:34:03.700 like second hand experience

00:34:04.800 it was Jake's

00:34:05.560 experience with him

00:34:06.920 you're just living off

00:34:08.740 everyone else's

00:34:09.300 yeah vicariously

00:34:10.160 yeah hell yeah

00:34:10.840 I'm gonna start telling

00:34:11.440 these stories in a minute

00:34:12.160 and presenting them on my own

00:34:12.960 I was loosely involved

00:34:15.180 very loosely involved

00:34:16.040 something happened

00:34:17.300 where like

00:34:17.680 Jake said hi

00:34:18.620 said hi to Zayn

00:34:20.220 and he felt like

00:34:21.260 your girl just spilled

00:34:22.360 Coca-Cola 1.00

00:34:22.980 put the camera out 0.50

00:34:23.840 or put her on 1.00

00:34:24.260 Oopsie daisy

00:34:28.160 It's not good for you anyways 1.00

00:34:29.840 Fuck that 1.00

00:34:30.320 He said hi to Zane 1.00

00:34:31.460 Jake felt like Zane was disrespectful to him

00:34:34.960 And he wanted to say what's up

00:34:36.180 So Jake tweeted at him

00:34:38.220 And then he was screaming in his hotel room

00:34:41.640 Because the rooms were right next to each other

00:34:43.340 And there was a video of it online

00:34:45.540 Screaming in his hotel room

00:34:47.220 I thought my brother was about to fight Zane

00:34:48.980 And then Gigi tweeted

00:34:51.100 At Jake calling him ugly 0.96

00:34:53.520 and irrelevant 0.98

00:34:54.160 and that went crazy viral

00:34:55.520 and you know 0.98

00:34:55.900 Jake is ugly 0.96

00:34:56.540 but he's not irrelevant 0.99

00:34:58.620 then she tweeted

00:34:59.380 she tweeted something about

00:35:00.380 get yourself like a respectful man

00:35:01.800 or something

00:35:02.140 yeah yeah

00:35:02.880 that one didn't age very well

00:35:03.940 it didn't age

00:35:04.520 no no no

00:35:09.080 listen listen listen

00:35:09.620 before we go

00:35:10.500 before we go too deeply into this

00:35:11.620 there's many reasons

00:35:12.860 why I dislike Zayn

00:35:14.300 and there's many reasons

00:35:15.000 why I'll always

00:35:15.740 always be on his side

00:35:16.900 if I had had to go through

00:35:19.040 what he went through

00:35:19.820 through his growth

00:35:21.660 and whatever else

00:35:22.720 you know

00:35:23.580 Your parents are very supportive.

00:35:25.260 Very, very.

00:35:26.720 My parents are overly supportive to the point where it's annoying at times,

00:35:30.120 and they don't even mind me saying that.

00:35:31.820 And Zane had a different upbringing in that sense.

00:35:34.080 And you can always look at the man for where he is and say, 1.00

00:35:38.220 oh, yeah, whatever, that guy's a dick, right? 0.99

00:35:40.340 But at the end of the day, once you understand what he's been through 0.98

00:35:42.580 to get to that point, and also whether or not he actually even wanted to be there.

00:35:45.700 And also, I'm so misunderstood by myself more than anyone.

00:35:49.920 Like, I don't know what I'm doing or why I'm here. 0.98

00:35:51.700 It's like, I can't sit here and dick on him because of whatever. 0.78

00:35:55.120 And listen, I don't agree with any of his actions. 0.97

00:35:56.760 I can't commend some of the things that he's done.

00:35:58.340 I can't be on his side for that.

00:35:59.780 What I can say is I understand, and I hope that your only hope is that at some point in their life,

00:36:04.960 the person on the other end of the phone wants to receive the help that you're willing to give them.

00:36:08.220 That's all I'll say.

00:36:08.940 That's beautiful.

00:36:10.140 Absolutely.

00:36:10.620 How old are you?

00:36:11.720 28.

00:36:12.600 You're very wise.

00:36:13.740 Do you think you're...

00:36:14.860 I'm an owl.

00:36:17.340 You're very wise.

00:36:18.200 I'm an owl.

00:36:18.640 you see how i made myself wise and then the knob in 10 seconds that's the problem in my life no no

00:36:25.180 no no no no that dichotomy is fantastic you have to keep people guessing never let them know your

00:36:29.700 next move don't pigeonhole me i don't like it how many bird references we got here i will pigeonhole

00:36:34.600 what's next um i actually have one question because i i myself feel like i'm in a boy band

00:36:39.560 not a real singing one but with my friends we travel the world we have a lot of good times i

00:36:44.060 I feel like I'm a part of, like, a cute little boy band.

00:36:46.140 But these two guys, they argue about females all the time.

00:36:50.720 Did you guys ever have, like, a girl that you were fighting over or anything?

00:36:54.000 No, actually.

00:36:55.400 By the way, I would never want to disrespect

00:36:57.060 because you guys probably weren't running around with terrible choices of women.

00:37:00.740 Not this again.

00:37:02.060 Not this again, George.

00:37:03.420 But was there somebody like, you know, she's mine, bro.

00:37:07.100 And then you guys.

00:37:07.540 God, God, girl is mine.

00:37:09.100 She's mine.

00:37:10.120 You like Michael Jackson.

00:37:11.320 That song's great.

00:37:12.220 he and Paul McCartney

00:37:13.480 before they fell out

00:37:14.520 did we ever have an argument

00:37:16.720 over a girl

00:37:17.320 no I don't believe so

00:37:19.240 I don't believe

00:37:20.240 that ever happened

00:37:20.860 was anybody ever with

00:37:22.560 another girl

00:37:23.140 that someone else was with

00:37:23.980 I definitely think

00:37:24.920 that might happen

00:37:25.540 were you guys cool

00:37:26.840 were you guys cool with that

00:37:28.060 it wasn't me

00:37:28.940 I've got to ask them

00:37:29.740 yeah yeah

00:37:30.380 but there was no animosity

00:37:31.940 like there was no like

00:37:32.720 that's my

00:37:33.240 I don't know

00:37:34.580 I wasn't there

00:37:35.440 yeah right

00:37:36.380 I was out of the scene

00:37:37.440 yeah right

00:37:38.080 he's PR-changing

00:37:39.140 nothing to do with me

00:37:40.220 he's so PR-changing

00:37:40.960 I was so

00:37:41.500 well trained

00:37:42.920 I wasn't really like

00:37:44.980 honestly and I'm not really like that if I'm honest with you

00:37:47.320 I'm quite a calm individual

00:37:48.540 you didn't seem very calm last night

00:37:51.080 that was my first time meeting you and you seemed fired the fuck up 0.93

00:37:54.380 you had your shirt off 0.94

00:37:55.240 you had like a crazy glistening

00:37:57.420 what would you do if you were me? 1.00

00:37:58.960 exactly what you did, I'd have my shirt off

00:38:01.080 by the way I've been wanting to ask you this the whole time

00:38:04.280 can you drop your skin care routine

00:38:06.520 right now?

00:38:07.280 I've been asked this a lot 0.99

00:38:08.120 holy shit 0.96

00:38:11.000 I'm currently working on a skincare routine that's coming out soon through the Paul and Paul designs. 0.98

00:38:16.180 Fantastic.

00:38:17.320 I don't know how you ended up with a son of it, but you now represent me.

00:38:20.760 No, he doesn't need any more companies, dude.

00:38:23.300 Help me.

00:38:23.840 I'm going to become the third Paul.

00:38:26.040 Liam Paul?

00:38:26.840 What do you think about that?

00:38:27.260 I'll be Logan Payne.

00:38:28.060 I'd still be LP.

00:38:28.920 It still works.

00:38:29.680 I don't have to change my title.

00:38:30.580 Wow, we almost have the same name.

00:38:32.800 Oh, my God.

00:38:33.460 What's your middle name?

00:38:34.940 James. 0.94

00:38:36.120 LGBT. 0.81

00:38:38.000 LGBT, side of party. 0.82

00:38:40.180 Nice. 0.99

00:38:40.540 one more whiskey for me please

00:38:47.800 let's just get it rolling

00:38:49.860 me too

00:38:51.200 we were talking before

00:38:52.880 two whiskeys

00:38:53.620 such a bad idea

00:38:55.800 no it's not

00:38:56.620 it's a great idea

00:38:57.300 when's it ever a bad idea

00:38:58.240 it's only a bad idea

00:38:58.960 the next day

00:38:59.520 don't tell them what time it is

00:39:01.100 that makes us seem like

00:39:01.800 what would you do if you were us

00:39:04.240 I like that question

00:39:06.720 I'm gonna start asking that

00:39:07.620 yeah

00:39:08.080 go

00:39:08.700 you know what

00:39:09.300 that's a funny thing actually

00:39:10.060 the most thing I ever get said to me

00:39:11.780 there's two things

00:39:12.540 through that influence of the girls being around you 0.75

00:39:15.640 and having to grow up through that bit 0.61

00:39:16.960 if I was you I wouldn't have a girlfriend

00:39:19.140 I'd be doing whatever I wanted

00:39:20.240 and it's hard not to listen to that as a kid

00:39:23.020 so there's a little thing building

00:39:24.560 and I find I'm very influenced by

00:39:27.240 energies around me and people around me for sure

00:39:29.440 and the most thing I ever get said to me

00:39:32.480 is oh if I was you I'd be dead by now

00:39:34.180 imagine that

00:39:36.000 and I'm not as far as I know

00:39:38.160 but that makes sense

00:39:39.660 as far as I know

00:39:40.340 the majority 0.99

00:39:40.740 killing it 0.76

00:39:41.260 not really 0.99

00:39:42.020 but like

00:39:42.340 you're doing good

00:39:43.040 well no I just think

00:39:43.560 that every day

00:39:44.160 it's like

00:39:44.440 if I was you

00:39:45.540 I'd be dead by now 1.00

00:39:46.180 well because the majority

00:39:46.780 of people wouldn't be able

00:39:47.500 to do it dude

00:39:48.500 you know what I'm saying 0.99

00:39:49.200 it's fucking crazy 0.98

00:39:50.540 it's just true 0.99

00:39:51.900 no no no

00:39:52.720 it is true

00:39:53.380 bro you have to

00:39:53.700 do you get that

00:39:54.180 said to you a lot

00:39:54.680 no

00:39:57.200 it's a conversation

00:39:57.960 only for me

00:39:58.460 I mean bro

00:39:59.040 there's a

00:40:00.020 there's a very big

00:40:01.060 difference between

00:40:01.540 being like a rock star 1.00

00:40:02.800 and a fucking 1.00

00:40:03.840 podcast host 1.00

00:40:04.780 we're boxing

00:40:05.300 hang on a minute mate

00:40:06.160 you're a bit more

00:40:06.740 than that

00:40:07.100 I'm being facetious

00:40:08.520 but

00:40:08.720 But still, like, big difference, man.

00:40:12.980 I never had the 15,000 people standing outside of my hotel

00:40:16.820 shutting down streets in Peru.

00:40:18.440 I mean, you know what?

00:40:19.240 Going back to that situation as well,

00:40:20.700 I mean, I've spent a lot of time with psychologists,

00:40:22.440 as you can probably tell.

00:40:24.000 I can't.

00:40:24.940 I can't.

00:40:26.420 And one of the biggest things that she told me when I was with her

00:40:30.100 was that, you know, from the age of 16 upwards

00:40:31.980 is one of the big things parents should give children of that age

00:40:34.100 is freedom, which seems kind of counterproductive,

00:40:36.880 But the cheapest security for the people outside and the people inside the building is to lock on the front door.

00:40:42.620 So we used to get locked in our hotel rooms all the time.

00:40:44.700 And what I find about my life now is I'm still in a syndrome sometimes where I become almost agoraphobic in a way

00:40:49.240 because I wait for work to tell me where to go.

00:40:51.760 So the biggest thing in any therapy session or anything I ever do is like, what do you enjoy in life?

00:40:55.960 And I don't really know because I just choose to enjoy the minibar and then smash up the hotel room.

00:40:59.440 That's that.

00:41:00.220 Do you feel like numb to the normalcies of life now?

00:41:05.520 you know what i'm saying having gone through all that i love to take my son to school really

00:41:09.520 that's one of my favorite things it's so much fun and i know he loves it too and um you know it

00:41:14.940 happens uh once a week twice a week um and if i'm in a weird sleeping bag we'll go down and i'll

00:41:20.960 take him out to school i always surprise him and he's he literally sat down the other day and he

00:41:24.240 was a lot of sleep his mom said to him morning sunshine and then my deep voice came in saying

00:41:28.560 morning he went huh first word out of bed i've never even heard him make that noise and he went 0.99

00:41:33.660 wow daddy that was the biggest surprise of my life you being here today that's the best shit 0.98

00:41:38.380 that's awesome so that's like so that's like your new dopamine dump it's just it's just like those 0.99

00:41:43.560 those taking care of him and watching him grow and hopefully he does it a little bit better than i did

00:41:46.920 man that's amazing yeah that's the coolest thing man i didn't i didn't know you were dad until you

00:41:51.820 said it on stage today you're and you're a young dad too yeah i had my son when i was 23 yeah so

00:41:57.320 and this is actually interesting

00:41:58.840 the mom

00:42:01.900 was a judge

00:42:03.880 on X Factor

00:42:05.860 judging you

00:42:07.260 baby mama drama brother

00:42:10.600 when I was 14 I was hot

00:42:12.020 yeah that's another part of the story

00:42:15.440 there's a bigger part of the story

00:42:18.020 so I went on

00:42:20.220 and what happened in one of my auditions is

00:42:22.040 they put a female judge in front of me and to make myself 0.79

00:42:24.140 stand out halfway through the song I winged her 0.76

00:42:25.800 it's a licensed weapon please don't try to i'm gonna i'm gonna steal that um and so like i went

00:42:32.440 back to school the day after and i winked at cheryl in the audition and my friends are going 0.95

00:42:35.940 what the fucking hell do you think you're doing winking at cheryl cole on the tv whatever that's 0.98

00:42:39.400 like just you know came naturally it's just one of the things that i was such a little prick when 0.99

00:42:42.840 i was a kid um and then like fast forward years later yeah we ended up having a having a baby

00:42:47.880 together it was really how much of it do you attribute to that wink um i mean the wink like

00:42:52.940 i say is a registered weapon i have to check it in to just this eye would you mind would you mind 0.99

00:42:57.520 uh firing that weapon at that camera right there the oh fuck dude i got hit by some of that that's 0.99

00:43:03.560 intense it's a lot to keep your hands to yourselves i got hit by strapping more babies in here no but 0.99

00:43:09.120 i mean you know what a blessing i mean it's the weirdest how i met your mother's story ever

00:43:11.820 because you know as she was the judge on the show i had a hole in my shoe at the time um and yeah so

00:43:17.520 I mean, fantastic time in life.

00:43:20.380 That's insane.

00:43:21.140 It worked out.

00:43:21.940 It worked out great, and she's the best mom in the world.

00:43:24.180 I couldn't ask for someone better.

00:43:25.940 You know, the relationship we have with each other now as friends

00:43:28.280 has only grown more since, you know, everything.

00:43:31.200 We broke up for a reason that we broke up,

00:43:32.740 and now, you know, she gives me full autonomy of my own life

00:43:36.200 to be able to go and do what I do,

00:43:37.280 and at the same time, I know he's being taken care of

00:43:38.900 because he's all she cares about,

00:43:41.180 and that's, you know, you couldn't ask for more.

00:43:42.760 Based in the U.K.?

00:43:43.820 Yeah, they live, like, three minutes from my house. 1.00

00:43:45.480 Oh, very good.

00:43:46.340 Oh, you're still living out there?

00:43:47.520 Yeah. I always glue myself to where he is. I don't want to miss a thing of that. I owe it to him.

00:43:53.420 My life now is his. My money is his. I don't want to tell him that too much.

00:43:58.400 I was going to say, you have to be careful.

00:44:00.720 Well, this is a constant conversation I have myself. What do I give him?

00:44:03.200 I've actually got several companies that are up and running that I know he can run one day if he wants to.

00:44:06.720 If he wants to sell them, he can sell them. If he wants to run them, he can run them. That's his choice.

00:44:09.620 I mean, he's five, right? It's been a long way to go.

00:44:11.820 I like to think ahead. He's a lovely, lovely, lovely boy.

00:44:16.460 like we've been blessed

00:44:17.180 like the point where parents

00:44:18.220 used to come around to the house

00:44:19.280 and

00:44:20.200 you know

00:44:21.360 Bear was always

00:44:21.900 really calm and listened

00:44:23.040 and whatever else

00:44:23.700 and then these other kids

00:44:24.400 like running around 0.87

00:44:24.960 like little savages 1.00

00:44:25.820 and the moms are going 1.00

00:44:26.800 to like Cheryl like 1.00

00:44:27.560 how did you do that?

00:44:30.300 It was almost like

00:44:30.580 that moment in

00:44:31.000 Wall Street

00:44:31.520 when he sells the Benny star

00:44:32.500 that was literally

00:44:33.180 Cheryl as a parent

00:44:34.040 so you know

00:44:34.940 she'd been fantastic

00:44:35.640 and

00:44:35.900 I mean

00:44:36.920 obviously it has to do

00:44:38.040 something with parenting

00:44:39.360 yeah

00:44:39.980 and you and her

00:44:41.680 as parents

00:44:41.920 imagine I was your dad

00:44:42.800 I mean bro

00:44:44.520 you're being facetious

00:44:45.840 but like

00:44:46.260 i could see you're a great dad you know you're you're very wise i put my time i put my time in

00:44:51.180 with my son for sure and i also i like to speak to people who are new dads also because you don't

00:44:55.400 know what's coming and it's it's different and you know to be honest with you yeah ruined a

00:45:00.500 relationship for me in that point but for all the all the right reasons um and it's like you think

00:45:06.380 kids is a blank page they're born and i mean when bear was first born i was so excited for him to be

00:45:11.060 born i thought what if i don't love him enough like it was such a worry for me and his mom

00:45:15.560 had achieved hemorrhage quite badly in birth so she was asleep the whole day so for the first 24

00:45:19.880 hours of his life i was 23 with a baby in a room and i had to take care of it and i didn't even

00:45:23.720 have any baby sisters or anything so it was very fun but the end of the night finished with me with

00:45:26.800 a playstation controller my little boy on my arm like i'm playing fifa like this is the coolest

00:45:31.220 thing it was the best um but yeah you don't get a blank you don't get a blank page they show you

00:45:35.720 what they can do and then you steer them so it's actually not that it's not nothing it's not that

00:45:39.780 difficult it's very hard but it's like you as long as that's what you look for rather than you

00:45:43.140 trying to be like this is what you're going to do with your life i mean the scariest thing for me is

00:45:46.860 him waking up one day and going i want to be famous and he's already like i'm gonna sing strip

00:45:50.900 that down with you on stage daddy and it scares the crap out of me because i know what he did to

00:45:54.080 me i was gonna ask you has he shown any signs of like being good or passionate about any specific

00:45:59.800 pursuits he's too young to show to show any any of any of those things yet in my eyes he's he's

00:46:05.980 got amazing timing, dance-wise. If I play a song, me and him have the same trait in our

00:46:11.560 brain. It's the same as what Charlie Puth has, but I was never taught notes in a piano,

00:46:14.720 so I couldn't tell you. But if you ask me what a note was, I could be able to press

00:46:17.640 it within seconds. And he'd literally all sit at the piano and he'll find the key.

00:46:20.920 Perfect pitch.

00:46:21.620 Yeah.

00:46:22.560 Interesting.

00:46:22.800 Often when I rehearse, I will start singing before the song starts, and then the person

00:46:27.680 will start playing, and I'm already in tune before the song starts. That's a really weird

00:46:30.560 thing.

00:46:30.740 If you could see him or guide him or manage him into a life that mirrored or replicated yours and the same levels of success, would you do that?

00:46:44.480 Listen, I will let him do whatever he wants.

00:46:46.440 I've protected his face since young.

00:46:48.060 I chose to be famous when I was 14.

00:46:50.200 I didn't choose to be famous, but I chose to do what I did.

00:46:52.120 I also know that you can't put the lid back on.

00:46:54.080 Once you pop, you just can't stop like a Pringle.

00:46:56.560 For me, he has to make that choice when he's older,

00:46:59.540 and I know what choice he's going to make already

00:47:00.900 because he's just absolutely dying for it.

00:47:02.820 He goes to rehearsals.

00:47:03.700 His mom's a pop star too,

00:47:04.620 so he goes to rehearsals with his mom.

00:47:06.340 I've got videos of him with his shirt off

00:47:08.200 holding a microphone very much like his old man.

00:47:09.960 His family hates shirts.

00:47:11.860 We're nudists.

00:47:14.100 Edenists.

00:47:15.680 And yeah, I've got videos of him

00:47:17.160 doing the dance to The Weeknd song

00:47:18.760 and whatever else,

00:47:19.520 and he wants to learn piano.

00:47:21.340 I know whatever he does,

00:47:22.820 he's going to tenfold anything that I've done in my life,

00:47:24.940 and that's the, what more could you ask for?

00:47:26.800 And I would never stop him.

00:47:27.780 I just, at least I did all the wrong things for him

00:47:30.100 so he doesn't have to do them.

00:47:31.460 No, you're right.

00:47:32.160 That's like the ultimate goal, I think.

00:47:34.560 When they asked me on stage,

00:47:35.960 actually inspired by just hearing about you being a father

00:47:38.720 and how you talked about being a dad,

00:47:40.500 what I want people to remember me by,

00:47:42.700 my last minute answer was like,

00:47:44.480 I'd love to be an amazing dad.

00:47:46.240 Clever.

00:47:46.660 I'd love to be an amazing dad.

00:47:48.240 You know, you dicked on me so many times

00:47:49.760 in that interview today, by the way.

00:47:50.720 What happened? 1.00

00:47:51.140 You bought Gary a fucking present, you fucking... 1.00

00:47:53.200 I didn't... 1.00

00:47:53.960 No one wore me.

00:47:54.580 I'm sat there.

00:47:55.300 I've got no present.

00:47:56.460 I've got no friends that fly me around places and whatever else.

00:47:59.900 No, that's...

00:48:00.580 I wish I was sat behind you because I would have just waited for your answer 0.99

00:48:03.360 and then I'd go, well, my mate's got a rocket.

00:48:05.580 I would let you go first. 0.79

00:48:07.360 I would let you go first.

00:48:08.680 No, no, no.

00:48:09.660 No, you did well.

00:48:10.500 I honestly really enjoyed that.

00:48:11.840 And I feel we've bonded over the time. 0.99

00:48:14.000 Dude, we've talked about a lot of shit in the four conversations we've had. 0.97

00:48:18.300 He told me, this was interesting, I want to talk about the Pharrell writing session. 0.99

00:48:21.800 Oh, yeah.

00:48:22.480 Because I think this is fascinating.

00:48:23.880 Yeah, I mean, this was interesting.

00:48:25.340 So Pharrell one day asked One Direction to come write with him.

00:48:28.120 I turned up and I was the only member there.

00:48:29.760 And I was gobsmacked.

00:48:31.160 I thought, what the hell? 0.91

00:48:32.420 Wait, what? 0.95

00:48:33.240 Yep, yep, yep.

00:48:34.000 There was an email sent.

00:48:34.760 No, no, no.

00:48:35.100 It wasn't sent directly to me.

00:48:36.360 I turned up.

00:48:37.560 And I sat in the studio and it was a really, really daunting moment for me

00:48:40.160 because he is basically like the Beethoven of us.

00:48:43.660 You know what I mean?

00:48:44.100 Like he just writes his songs, whatever.

00:48:45.580 And he did a very funny way of writing about him.

00:48:47.040 Pharrell and I absolutely love it.

00:48:48.240 He's always lovely to me.

00:48:49.260 But I sat in these sessions and I just couldn't bring myself to show him

00:48:53.040 anything that i could do because i'm like how do i tell pharrell how to spin a keyboard or whatever

00:48:57.180 else i'm very like solemn like if i draw a picture for my nfts if i do whatever else i will do it

00:49:01.540 alone i won't do it in the room with somebody um and i play but i would rather play by myself and

00:49:06.060 then i'll show you what i did later i'll show you some stuff that i did so you can understand

00:49:08.600 and yeah i sat with him for two days and i just thought what a waste of an opportunity like the

00:49:13.000 guy clearly believes in you and then another another couple of months went by and he saw me

00:49:16.480 an award show a really cool moment in my life he came over and he's like hey how are you man i was

00:49:20.740 like yeah i'm good i'm good i'm good he's like let me tell you something i feel like i've seen

00:49:24.920 this movie before and last time i was in it i got it wrong i don't want to get it wrong with you

00:49:29.700 then i was like whoa wow whoa like who am i let's have it um but once again i went in the studio

00:49:38.120 same thing again and like a lot of opportunities in my life have greeted me and i was in the wrong 0.78

00:49:42.300 headspace you know i spent a lot of my life like plenty fucked up a lot of the time and whatever 0.56

00:49:46.780 else trying to deal with whatever the nasty beastie inside wants to tell me I am or I'm 0.97

00:49:51.080 not. And yeah, that bit's quite hard to deal with. And if you don't get out of your own

00:49:55.880 way, it's nigh on impossible. But I wish I'd shown him something because I know I have

00:50:00.220 everything if you want to see it.

00:50:02.080 Was that the reason you feel like you didn't get a chance to show him your process and 0.99

00:50:05.560 your work because you were still dealing with shit? 0.99

00:50:06.760 I'm looking at Pharrell Williams banging around on the keyboard. I'm like, this is the coolest 0.99

00:50:11.120 experience ever. It was a one-man show with Pharrell, but I was like, I wish I had put

00:50:14.360 some influence on there

00:50:15.140 so you could show

00:50:15.580 like I wrote some of the

00:50:16.500 biggest songs of all time

00:50:17.340 like I have plaques at home 0.99

00:50:18.280 for that crap 0.99

00:50:18.800 like why am I walking in there 1.00

00:50:19.800 like I'm you know

00:50:20.800 green in the gills

00:50:21.560 and my fingers

00:50:22.120 suddenly don't work

00:50:22.760 so just like

00:50:24.480 in the little bit

00:50:25.020 I've gotten to know you

00:50:25.720 I would assume

00:50:27.920 that it in part

00:50:29.320 has to do with

00:50:29.940 how respectful you are

00:50:31.060 right you want to be

00:50:31.840 respectful of the legend

00:50:32.800 right do your thing

00:50:33.660 who am I

00:50:34.300 the new young kid

00:50:35.340 to come in 1.00

00:50:35.760 it's the imposter syndrome

00:50:36.760 thing again as well

00:50:37.500 what am I doing here

00:50:38.420 you gonna play piano

00:50:40.380 for Pharrell

00:50:40.840 exactly

00:50:41.880 I've never been taught

00:50:43.720 I learned by ear

00:50:44.880 I couldn't afford that

00:50:45.960 I think I would

00:50:47.160 And I'll tell you why

00:50:47.880 I don't take things seriously

00:50:49.160 I don't

00:50:50.080 I try not to

00:50:51.160 I want to

00:50:53.560 I don't

00:50:53.900 My biggest fear is

00:50:55.220 I had really really bad panic attacks

00:50:57.260 When I was a kid because of this

00:50:58.500 When I walk in a room

00:50:59.840 And I would regret not doing something

00:51:01.280 Yeah

00:51:01.600 I would have really really bad fears of it

00:51:03.940 You got FOMO

00:51:04.420 You got reverse FOMO

00:51:05.400 From like being in the moment

00:51:06.600 So I'd rather be myself

00:51:08.120 And have them make fun of who I really am

00:51:10.020 Than me hide who I really am

00:51:12.600 and then they even like it

00:51:13.740 because I think

00:51:14.120 I would hate it more

00:51:15.460 if they liked

00:51:16.020 the pretend version

00:51:16.960 I'm such a social chameleon

00:51:19.060 I mean I've been on TV

00:51:20.260 for my accent changing

00:51:21.260 just because

00:51:21.680 I don't know

00:51:22.700 it's just whatever

00:51:23.260 I have to be careful

00:51:24.180 what films I watch sometimes

00:51:25.320 because I might walk out

00:51:26.060 the house as a different person

00:51:27.080 that's so interesting

00:51:29.520 I'm definitely clinically insane

00:51:30.660 but they just haven't

00:51:31.220 copped onto it yet

00:51:31.880 I just don't tell them that

00:51:32.660 they would cut that bit out 1.00

00:51:33.400 I'm just getting clipped

00:51:34.760 for sure bro

00:51:36.000 I mean how could you not be man

00:51:38.340 you've had a crazy life

00:51:39.720 and you probably

00:51:40.280 had to be a bit of a social chameleon.

00:51:43.480 You're always entering different rooms,

00:51:44.680 talking to different people,

00:51:45.620 and it's the name of the game.

00:51:47.560 And like I told you earlier,

00:51:48.400 the moment for me is never about me

00:51:50.840 when we're talking

00:51:51.820 or if there's a fan that wants a picture

00:51:53.300 or somebody wants to come over.

00:51:54.140 The moment's about them having their five minutes.

00:51:56.180 So whoever they want me to be for that five minutes,

00:51:57.680 I'll be, depending on...

00:51:59.220 What'd you do to work on those...

00:52:02.720 Industry guidelines.

00:52:04.540 What'd you do to work on those...

00:52:05.620 What'd you do to work on those demons

00:52:09.380 that you were facing for so long?

00:52:13.260 Probably right behind me,

00:52:14.440 but they're still a bit away.

00:52:16.640 In the plane.

00:52:17.260 Yeah, they're catching up a little bit, 1.00

00:52:18.500 I just mean, little fuckers. 1.00

00:52:20.220 No, I don't know. 1.00

00:52:21.560 What work have I done on my demons?

00:52:23.640 I'm happy with who I am,

00:52:25.100 and I'm happy with the person I've grown into.

00:52:27.980 Regrets, do I have some?

00:52:29.560 Probably, yes, in certain ways,

00:52:30.720 being like that Pharrell session,

00:52:31.860 but they're only regrets

00:52:32.520 that are actually like supersonic level.

00:52:34.420 That would have been funny if I did that,

00:52:35.640 you know what I mean?

00:52:36.320 And I'm happy with everything

00:52:38.920 that I've been through

00:52:39.500 to get to this stage

00:52:40.360 and whether people

00:52:41.020 judge me for it or not

00:52:41.820 to me I really don't care anymore

00:52:44.000 I've lost the point of caring

00:52:45.020 I'm just like

00:52:45.560 this is who I am

00:52:46.700 if you want to join the crowd 1.00

00:52:47.720 and come and learn some shit 0.99

00:52:48.620 then you're more than welcome 0.99

00:52:49.980 if not then

00:52:50.640 that's good for you

00:52:52.060 you were in

00:52:53.660 you were in arguably

00:52:54.680 one of the most popular

00:52:56.300 boy bands

00:52:57.840 in music groups

00:52:59.080 ever

00:53:00.220 for a very long time

00:53:01.800 and it still doesn't feel like that

00:53:03.860 well unfortunately

00:53:05.500 it happened

00:53:06.480 it happened 0.99

00:53:07.120 fuck I knew it happened 0.99

00:53:08.220 I knew it wasn't a dream 1.00

00:53:09.180 That's where you're sitting

00:53:09.900 Oh my goodness

00:53:10.580 What are we doing here?

00:53:11.840 Who are you?

00:53:13.020 I'm Jake Paul

00:53:14.000 Jake Paul's man

00:53:15.260 How you doing?

00:53:16.440 How you doing?

00:53:17.080 People ran up to Mike today

00:53:18.040 They're like, Logan, big fan

00:53:19.840 And I was like, there's no way

00:53:20.720 To Mike?

00:53:21.520 To Mike

00:53:21.880 I think we found out that they may have been trolling

00:53:25.000 But when they did it to me

00:53:25.820 I was like, did you see the Floyd fight?

00:53:28.380 What did you think?

00:53:29.240 He said, you did so good

00:53:30.480 You lasted all the rounds

00:53:31.520 And I go, first of all, that's two lies

00:53:33.460 It's not Michael

00:53:34.260 I mean, it's not Logan

00:53:35.540 I just rolled with it

00:53:37.060 No, that's confusing the hell out of me, but I'm glad she...

00:53:39.720 I almost impersonated on a red carpet once,

00:53:43.800 so I was doing Fifty Shades of Grey,

00:53:45.440 and the woman started asking me loads of questions,

00:53:47.220 and I was doing a song,

00:53:48.180 and I had a bald head at the same time Jamie Dornan did.

00:53:51.060 And I'm stood there, and she goes,

00:53:51.960 you know, how is it filming the sex scenes?

00:53:54.120 Oh, no.

00:53:54.580 I said to her, well, I don't know.

00:53:55.520 I haven't seen the film yet.

00:53:57.500 And she keeps asking me these questions,

00:53:58.920 and really intimate questions,

00:54:00.340 and I regret it so deeply now that I didn't just ruin his life,

00:54:02.980 because I could have done it. 0.99

00:54:04.260 But I was like, I said, hang on, who the fuck do you think I am? 1.00

00:54:08.020 She went, oh, you're him. 1.00

00:54:09.180 I went, no, no, no, no, no.

00:54:10.340 I'm him.

00:54:12.280 But I could have just gone in and like, yeah, it was really awkward, actually.

00:54:15.400 I could have really ruined it.

00:54:16.800 I imagine I had just ruined it.

00:54:17.600 Would you do that now?

00:54:18.440 No, I wouldn't have.

00:54:19.300 He's a nice guy, Jamie, actually.

00:54:20.460 He's good.

00:54:21.040 And to get compared to him, I'll take it.

00:54:25.260 We've gone off on a tangent.

00:54:26.300 I want to talk to you about the Mayweather fight. 1.00

00:54:28.900 Oh, you're screwed. 0.99

00:54:29.820 Can I ask? 1.00

00:54:31.380 No, I asked mine first.

00:54:32.580 I'm just kidding.

00:54:33.080 Because I remember it.

00:54:34.020 I'm a podcast host.

00:54:34.940 I'm a professional at this point.

00:54:36.200 I'll remember my question.

00:54:37.060 I know. You remember your questions.

00:54:38.580 I can lead you back into it.

00:54:39.760 No, I remember it.

00:54:40.400 Do you remember what a day is?

00:54:41.360 Sorry, what were we talking about?

00:54:42.220 Anyone know?

00:54:42.560 Not nothing.

00:54:43.000 23.

00:54:43.360 Floyd Mayweather.

00:54:43.980 24, Mom?

00:54:44.360 Five, seven.

00:54:44.880 Fifty Shades of Grey.

00:54:45.500 Okay.

00:54:45.920 Demons in the plant.

00:54:46.580 All right.

00:54:47.120 See how professional he is. Go.

00:54:48.360 All right.

00:54:48.920 You remember this big boy, man, and you're perceived a certain way.

00:54:53.040 It fizzles.

00:54:53.960 Whatever.

00:54:54.380 You break up.

00:54:55.060 Whatever you want to call it.

00:54:56.040 And now you are posed with the task of creating an identity, a real identity as an individual.

00:55:03.580 Oh, my God.

00:55:03.960 So risky for this one.

00:55:04.780 Yeah.

00:55:05.580 You're here now.

00:55:07.060 And you've done a great job, but I can imagine that that was a little scary, right?

00:55:10.800 People care about you as an entity, but as a solo, as a solo artist, as a celebrity influencer,

00:55:16.660 whatever the fuck you want to call yourself, do people care?

00:55:19.040 And how do you make them care? 0.99

00:55:19.960 Let me throw this out.

00:55:20.380 Let me throw this out.

00:55:21.080 So I came out of the band and said, my dad called me, oh yeah, here we go, you're going to go solo.

00:55:27.880 It's been his dream since I was a kid, his dream.

00:55:30.840 And I said, I'll only do it if the right song comes along, otherwise I'm not bothered.

00:55:33.720 I don't want to tarnish the legacy I have already.

00:55:35.340 I've done something that's already worldwide famous. 0.93

00:55:37.060 and I've got a fucking gold record spot. 0.94

00:55:38.260 I said, I don't need to do this. 0.98

00:55:39.340 It's not important to me.

00:55:41.700 Ed Sheeran wrote me this song

00:55:42.960 and I thought, 0.99

00:55:43.500 oh shit, 1.00

00:55:44.080 oh no. 1.00

00:55:44.800 Here we bloody well go again.

00:55:46.320 Here we go, boys.

00:55:47.560 Put your shorts up,

00:55:48.360 off we pop.

00:55:49.140 And yeah,

00:55:50.080 we did the first song,

00:55:51.040 Billion Streams.

00:55:53.220 I think it outsold everybody

00:55:54.900 within the band

00:55:55.760 and I was the last to go

00:55:56.480 and I never expected that.

00:55:58.180 And I'm sat there going,

00:56:00.140 it's gone rather well,

00:56:01.080 hasn't it?

00:56:01.380 You can do it.

00:56:01.880 Then how do you go from there?

00:56:03.700 Yeah.

00:56:04.500 You know,

00:56:04.840 it was like,

00:56:05.300 how do you go from there?

00:56:06.340 and I didn't know

00:56:07.060 I still don't know who I am

00:56:08.420 I replicate different people

00:56:09.640 on a daily basis

00:56:10.340 I still don't know who I am

00:56:12.560 that's the worst part of it

00:56:13.720 because it's like

00:56:14.200 selling an identity to people

00:56:15.460 that

00:56:15.680 I'm me

00:56:17.180 so I can only sell me

00:56:18.500 and then the different thing was

00:56:19.320 I'd just gone out

00:56:20.000 of the writing zone

00:56:20.700 I don't want to say why

00:56:22.900 but I'd stopped writing

00:56:23.980 in that sense

00:56:24.500 and it was more difficult

00:56:25.100 to write for my own project

00:56:25.960 because I was like

00:56:26.580 trying to pull for my own life

00:56:27.520 which is also very vastly

00:56:28.520 confusing

00:56:28.900 a boy who's been locked

00:56:30.160 in a hotel room

00:56:30.780 since he was 15 years old

00:56:31.800 so

00:56:32.020 I don't even know

00:56:33.740 what I like

00:56:34.200 so what can I write songs about

00:56:35.380 or is that the best

00:56:36.820 you said it's the worst part

00:56:37.940 maybe it's the best part

00:56:39.620 no I mean

00:56:40.160 I've had a fantastic career

00:56:41.460 I think

00:56:41.820 today at the moment

00:56:42.920 I've done

00:56:43.380 six and a half billion

00:56:45.020 streams worldwide

00:56:45.780 right

00:56:46.100 it's amazing

00:56:47.260 I'm so happy for it

00:56:48.420 I didn't want to do it

00:56:49.620 because I just

00:56:50.520 I knew what

00:56:51.480 what was going to happen

00:56:52.180 to me within the process

00:56:53.100 of it

00:56:53.440 but yeah

00:56:54.800 I mean it's been

00:56:55.200 a great interesting journey

00:56:56.500 and also having

00:56:57.340 you know

00:56:57.720 four of the boys

00:56:58.540 that we

00:56:59.520 I mean we have

00:57:00.100 there's one

00:57:00.440 there's one record

00:57:01.020 that we have

00:57:01.440 for being one of the only

00:57:02.400 bands in history

00:57:03.080 to have every member

00:57:03.900 in the top 40

00:57:04.620 the american charts beating fleetwood mac beating so and so like when you name stuff like that it's

00:57:09.400 like wow like and that's a group effort by the way um but yeah i mean it's for me it's

00:57:14.580 i don't even know if i wanted to be a solo artist but i just did it because it was there to do and

00:57:19.160 whatever else where it's like going and joining these things i've had more fun in the last few

00:57:22.640 weeks playing football and everything else but the new project i just started which i do want to

00:57:26.080 talk about a little bit i'm amped about what is it um i don't want to give away too much but i

00:57:32.320 I used to produce for the band when I was a kid

00:57:34.360 so we used to do these remixes called

00:57:36.200 Big Pano remixes

00:57:38.120 I like when someone puts Big in front of your name

00:57:40.260 it definitely means something

00:57:41.140 so I used to make these remixes as a kid

00:57:44.440 and slightly swindled

00:57:46.620 by the label, I'm sure we've all heard that before

00:57:48.440 I didn't get paid anymore for them, I just did them because

00:57:50.340 I loved them

00:57:50.880 and they put them out and I was known as DJ Pano

00:57:54.140 but I've been

00:57:55.540 I've literally been producing since I was 15 years old

00:57:57.940 so I've made these songs in the last few weeks

00:57:59.460 and signed up to a record label that I really enjoy

00:58:02.220 their style of music

00:58:03.140 and I think

00:58:04.400 this next chapter

00:58:05.040 for me seems so

00:58:05.960 free and exactly

00:58:07.160 what I want to do

00:58:07.740 I don't want to be

00:58:08.380 a touring artist

00:58:09.000 I've got a son at home

00:58:10.560 I don't want to travel

00:58:11.520 the world on a bus

00:58:12.220 and smell

00:58:12.700 and you know

00:58:13.900 do whatever else

00:58:14.520 again I've done it

00:58:15.800 to death

00:58:16.120 I don't want to be

00:58:17.340 number one

00:58:17.760 doesn't bother me

00:58:18.780 one percent

00:58:19.160 I want to make

00:58:19.840 something that when

00:58:20.360 I turn it on

00:58:20.940 and the room goes

00:58:21.680 I'm already doing it

00:58:25.620 exactly

00:58:25.960 it's happening right now

00:58:26.640 that's just my throat

00:58:27.260 exactly

00:58:29.680 we listen to the actual song

00:58:33.420 and it's just

00:58:33.840 I told you guys

00:58:36.240 that was

00:58:37.080 that's my next single

00:58:37.740 it's called

00:58:38.060 that's fine

00:58:39.540 what I used to like

00:58:41.200 about Drake

00:58:41.660 was that he's at every party

00:58:42.840 in the world

00:58:43.260 without going to one of them

00:58:44.920 but I want

00:58:45.300 I want to go somewhere

00:58:46.900 where like

00:58:47.480 you make the room bounce 0.58

00:58:48.380 and you get that stinky 0.88

00:58:49.060 bass face going 0.90

00:58:49.860 and for the first time

00:58:52.020 ever in my life today

00:58:52.760 I was alone in my house

00:58:53.960 actually

00:58:54.220 thank you very much

00:58:55.060 you two

00:58:55.420 and thanks for not

00:58:56.480 picking up the FaceTime calls

00:58:57.320 when I was trying to celebrate

00:58:58.040 and thanks for

00:58:58.760 Yeah, thanks for being here.

00:58:59.680 I mean, dude, you head-bunned him.

00:59:01.800 Well, thanks for being here.

00:59:03.540 You look all the better for it.

00:59:05.580 Yeah, so I made one the other day in my house that I was like, wow.

00:59:08.120 Because I'd sat down with these proper, proper dance heads, and I knew what they wanted.

00:59:11.660 And it was like that re-ignition of that One Direction thing again.

00:59:13.860 I know what you want.

00:59:14.980 I can make that.

00:59:16.360 So, yeah, watch this face.

00:59:17.440 We'll see what happens.

00:59:18.400 So cool, dude.

00:59:19.640 Proud of you.

00:59:23.380 I like it.

00:59:24.060 Sticky bass face.

00:59:25.180 Sticky bass face.

00:59:25.940 Just mad. 0.96

00:59:26.180 I've been in your face. 0.91

00:59:26.680 Just mad.

00:59:27.160 I've got a question for you.

00:59:28.040 At what point in the process, touring, being locked in hotel rooms,

00:59:34.160 doing that with your drink where the ice, like, bops around?

00:59:37.180 I'm angry.

00:59:37.800 Yeah, I'm angry.

00:59:39.000 Like this.

00:59:40.100 Did you ever think you'd be on Logan Paul's podcast? 0.99

00:59:42.900 Like, at what fucking point, dude? 0.99

00:59:45.920 Jake Paul's brother. 0.99

00:59:48.340 Like, come on.

00:59:48.900 Jake Paul's brother?

00:59:49.860 You can't even introduce it. 1.00

00:59:50.760 Bro, what the fuck? 0.99

00:59:51.920 It's a thing. 1.00

00:59:52.460 We do it.

00:59:52.940 It's a thing.

00:59:53.940 He's Liam Payne's brother.

00:59:54.960 Liam Paul's brother.

00:59:55.700 No, to be honest with you, I didn't.

00:59:59.420 I've watched you boys from afar for a very long time.

01:00:01.620 And also, I wanted to get this out there as well.

01:00:03.760 Like, I understand there's a slight theory to what you do.

01:00:07.280 And the only reason I understand it,

01:00:08.620 and I've spoken to this many times about many people,

01:00:10.720 and I did something wrong in my career when I started.

01:00:12.600 So when I started, my first beat was a Rack City beat with a rapper,

01:00:16.700 and I was singing just to dimly stuff.

01:00:18.600 So I went out, and I bought the biggest gold chain going.

01:00:20.940 I still have it.

01:00:22.060 I used to wear it everywhere.

01:00:23.080 And I'm a white guy from Wolverhampton.

01:00:24.960 a city and even no one knows

01:00:27.460 and whatever and I used to get ridiculed daily

01:00:29.360 the more I'd get ridiculed the more I'd be like

01:00:31.220 well I need another chain to add to the other chain

01:00:33.160 that we're already wearing and I'd go around this way

01:00:34.620 and it was almost doing what you guys did in a way

01:00:37.280 at the start of your career where you were

01:00:39.140 trying to push the limits so much it's almost a little bit like

01:00:41.240 jackass in a way you're trying to push the limits trying to push the limits 0.59

01:00:43.100 and at one point you met the limit you couldn't push anymore 0.99

01:00:45.160 and then it was like whoa

01:00:46.540 now the world's turned upside down 0.96

01:00:49.200 what the fuck are we going to do right 0.98

01:00:50.520 what I can say about you more than anything I was malleable 0.98

01:00:52.920 I let people around me

01:00:53.920 change me

01:00:54.320 and change who I was

01:00:55.060 whereas I know

01:00:55.500 deep down inside

01:00:56.160 there's still a boy 1.00

01:00:56.680 wearing a fucking chain 1.00

01:00:57.400 he doesn't give a fuck 1.00

01:00:58.260 right with you 0.99

01:00:59.200 you stuck at it

01:01:00.640 but you

01:01:01.060 you did the right thing

01:01:02.720 that you learned

01:01:03.840 from what happened

01:01:04.540 you came back stronger

01:01:05.960 you didn't give up

01:01:06.720 on what you were

01:01:07.280 and you grew from it

01:01:08.720 that's what people

01:01:09.660 want to see

01:01:09.960 they want to see growth

01:01:10.600 and they go

01:01:11.000 you know what

01:01:11.540 he's alright him

01:01:12.600 he's done well

01:01:13.820 no it's a real story

01:01:14.880 it is

01:01:15.360 tell me if I'm wrong

01:01:16.840 no you're right

01:01:17.620 again bro 0.99

01:01:18.480 you're very fucking wise 0.99

01:01:19.600 very astute 0.99

01:01:20.500 there's a real genuine arc

01:01:25.000 full of wins

01:01:26.520 and more probably

01:01:29.080 significantly failures

01:01:30.320 you know

01:01:31.340 and it's all in the public eye

01:01:33.060 it's all stuff that we

01:01:33.900 you know we don't be any proud of

01:01:35.360 no you see you don't get caught

01:01:36.620 I get caught

01:01:37.480 because I film my life

01:01:38.420 you don't get caught for too long

01:01:39.820 you might get caught later on

01:01:40.900 yeah no you're right

01:01:41.840 you're right you're right

01:01:42.320 nah nah see

01:01:43.080 my mistakes are there

01:01:45.340 like they're there

01:01:45.960 like there's nothing

01:01:47.080 nothing's going to bleed through

01:01:48.160 it's all

01:01:48.540 and that gives me comfort

01:01:50.260 in saying that as well but um no dude it's like watching watching what you've been able to do and

01:01:56.200 watching what your bandmates have been able to do and like it's really inspiring i think we're part

01:02:00.060 of a really special generation and being on that panel it as much as it's there's a difference in

01:02:04.100 the careers we do i don't think there's much of a difference in the careers we do if that makes

01:02:06.660 sense i mean bro let i'm gonna be honest with you you have like a a superpower in your ability to 0.85

01:02:10.860 sing which is like the one thing that is like at the end of the day you're a very fucking talented 0.97

01:02:16.120 performer and musician. 0.98

01:02:18.280 You know what I'm saying?

01:02:19.680 My only real asset is my brain.

01:02:23.600 Do you want to swap?

01:02:25.340 You don't want to do that.

01:02:26.220 I actually do.

01:02:27.000 I actually would.

01:02:27.740 Why don't we swap?

01:02:29.160 Why don't we do like

01:02:30.460 we can get like a neuroscience 0.99

01:02:31.620 to do like half a brain.

01:02:33.540 Dr. Eamon. 1.00

01:02:34.020 So you'll be like fucking 0.99

01:02:35.040 Dr. Eamon. 0.99

01:02:36.280 Leo McGon

01:02:37.160 Paying Paul.

01:02:39.140 We do that kind of stuff in LA.

01:02:40.480 The other guy.

01:02:41.000 Please.

01:02:41.780 If I could change my thing

01:02:44.000 I would love to have a voice. 1.00

01:02:45.440 I would pay someone to come and spend some time with this motherfucker 1.00

01:02:47.300 and just see how long it lasts. 1.00

01:02:48.540 See, that scares me, dog.

01:02:50.400 That scares me.

01:02:50.980 Yeah, that's true.

01:02:51.540 I'm pretty stable.

01:02:52.860 That's the one thing.

01:02:53.520 I'm pretty stable.

01:02:53.940 I know I'm stable to a degree.

01:02:55.420 Yeah.

01:02:56.060 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:56.940 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:58.760 Fantastic.

01:02:59.840 I want to get back to your unstable desire to fight people.

01:03:04.140 Who would you fight?

01:03:06.420 Who do you want to fight?

01:03:08.720 Who do I want to fight?

01:03:11.060 Who don't we like?

01:03:12.160 No.

01:03:12.360 Who don't we like?

01:03:13.060 Who don't we like?

01:03:13.600 You and Bieber?

01:03:15.440 There's not many people I don't like.

01:03:16.420 For me, I'm like, I just enjoy the challenge.

01:03:19.180 I'd enjoy the road up to it, whatever else.

01:03:21.680 Would you fight KSI?

01:03:23.260 I mean, whose dish do you want me to smash in?

01:03:24.700 Would you fight KSI?

01:03:25.780 Huh?

01:03:26.260 KSI?

01:03:26.940 Yeah.

01:03:27.980 Really?

01:03:28.500 Yeah.

01:03:29.180 He can fight.

01:03:29.880 He'd have to come down a few weight slots.

01:03:31.580 I don't think he can do it.

01:03:33.040 It's a lie.

01:03:33.660 And he can fight, bro.

01:03:34.560 You don't want to fight him.

01:03:35.340 No, I fight him.

01:03:37.300 Well, then you can fight him then, too.

01:03:38.700 No, no, no.

01:03:39.520 I like him too much, though.

01:03:41.160 Fight Jake.

01:03:42.480 Oh.

01:03:43.760 Would I have to come up weight slots,

01:03:44.940 So where do you come down?

01:03:45.800 Is he going to Conor McGregor

01:03:46.640 and come down and be like,

01:03:47.360 he's going to be his man in Britain?

01:03:47.980 He can come down, yeah.

01:03:49.400 Ooh.

01:03:52.100 Don't do it.

01:03:52.860 Don't do it.

01:03:53.160 Don't do it.

01:03:53.420 Don't do it.

01:03:53.600 Don't do it on your brother now.

01:03:54.500 Don't do it.

01:03:56.340 The American accent's my favorite

01:03:57.800 that you do, by the way.

01:03:59.280 I have all of them.

01:04:00.160 Don't want a part of hurting

01:04:01.000 on your brother now.

01:04:01.780 Don't want a part of hurting

01:04:02.620 on your little brother now.

01:04:04.280 It's only Southern.

01:04:05.820 Oh, it's Southern.

01:04:06.920 Oh, of course.

01:04:07.780 Bro, that's what the world thinks of us.

01:04:09.360 That's what the world thinks of us.

01:04:10.540 You like burgers?

01:04:12.380 Like, dude, no.

01:04:13.040 I'm like, dude, I don't talk like that.

01:04:15.080 Yeah, but then everyone thinks that we're like Tom Hardy.

01:04:18.340 Oh, you're my...

01:04:19.700 Tom Hardy as Bane was...

01:04:26.640 Oh, so you didn't think the darkness was your ally?

01:04:29.280 I was born in the dark.

01:04:31.020 Molded by it.

01:04:32.020 Shaped by it.

01:04:33.840 That was weird.

01:04:35.680 It can get weirder.

01:04:36.820 Sorry about that, dude.

01:04:37.680 She had this literally all night last night.

01:04:40.260 Like when I get a bit wasted sometimes,

01:04:41.400 my best defense mechanism

01:04:42.600 so I don't get scared of myself

01:04:43.660 is to start to pretend

01:04:44.500 to be other people.

01:04:45.480 And I noticed this

01:04:46.000 because I had to do a show

01:04:47.000 once in the London Dungeons.

01:04:49.460 And when I was in

01:04:49.980 the London Dungeons,

01:04:50.640 people would jump out on you

01:04:51.540 and I was dressed

01:04:52.260 as Captain Jack Sparrow.

01:04:53.700 And when I was me,

01:04:54.620 everyone that jumped out,

01:04:55.400 I was really scared of.

01:04:57.300 But every time I went,

01:04:58.360 I'm not going around

01:04:59.220 with you, mate.

01:05:01.740 I said, listen,

01:05:02.960 if anyone's seen my ship,

01:05:04.460 the Pearl is somewhere

01:05:05.640 over there, mate.

01:05:06.920 No.

01:05:07.600 Wow.

01:05:08.080 I've never heard

01:05:08.940 it shivering somewhere. 0.99

01:05:10.280 Amber Heard is shitting her pants right now. 0.98

01:05:13.960 Listen, I've never heard or seen of Amber Heard, mate. 0.99

01:05:19.520 I've never heard or seen of her.

01:05:21.700 That is incredible.

01:05:23.360 Let's just let him do this the rest of the show.

01:05:25.540 I'd like to go on for hours.

01:05:26.500 I'd be really careful what you wish for.

01:05:28.400 Well, how much rum you've got.

01:05:30.840 Dude, that's fantastic.

01:05:32.020 You would never do acting?

01:05:33.920 Well, I mean, if Disney wanted to do Captain Jack,

01:05:36.600 I would always be up for that, mate.

01:05:39.200 Wow.

01:05:39.560 The new Jack Sparrow

01:05:42.900 Something tells me they're bringing him back, man

01:05:45.260 Something tells me Johnny Depp is about to make one of the biggest

01:05:47.800 Walk of his evil twin

01:05:48.880 That could work

01:05:50.180 That would be so funny

01:05:51.580 Jack Sparrow has an evil twin

01:05:53.140 Dude, I just don't get like how

01:05:59.740 Never mind

01:06:00.520 What don't you get?

01:06:01.440 No, never mind

01:06:02.220 Finish your sentence

01:06:03.060 It's so unrelated, bro

01:06:04.560 But I've been thinking about it

01:06:05.660 That's impulsive

01:06:06.500 I just don't like 0.99

01:06:08.280 I was that can you feel me in when when Amber heard oh fuck we're not going down that road 1.00

01:06:16.720 that's what I'm saying no no no no please go no I can't I can't I can't hey cut the shit 1.00

01:06:22.560 Paul A Paul A Paul A cut the shit let's not talk about that it's not my problem 0.99

01:06:27.200 no it's not it's not right I just was wondering Paul A Paul A everybody stop all right you know 0.99

01:06:33.280 I'm the captain here.

01:06:34.780 Let's talk about Chris Rock and Will Smith.

01:06:36.960 Let's definitely not talk about that either.

01:06:39.100 But Polly, everyone just stop for a minute while I drink some whiskey 0.95

01:06:41.640 and send to myself before we talk about more crap about my life. 0.97

01:06:47.200 That's crazy. 0.98

01:06:48.380 It's very crazy.

01:06:49.800 Just constant entertainment for you.

01:06:51.420 He called out a certain person to fight before the show started. 0.99

01:06:54.100 Are we fucking fighting? 0.93

01:06:54.980 I just want to get into the guy you said before the show. 0.99

01:06:57.160 Who did you say?

01:06:57.780 I don't know.

01:06:58.460 I'll fight whoever you want.

01:06:59.200 We told you we had him on the show one time.

01:07:01.380 Who?

01:07:02.600 Johnny Depp.

01:07:03.280 I'm not fighting Johnny Depp 0.89

01:07:04.060 he's a freak

01:07:04.380 no I'm not Johnny Depp 0.94

01:07:05.280 he's a freak

01:07:05.820 he was a rapper 0.90

01:07:06.520 an American rapper

01:07:07.420 uh

01:07:09.460 oh

01:07:10.300 oh Takashi 1.00

01:07:11.260 no not 6ix9ine 0.99

01:07:12.740 it was Trippy Red 1.00

01:07:13.620 you don't want

01:07:16.160 he doesn't want

01:07:17.200 the smoke

01:07:17.700 no

01:07:18.280 I think he does

01:07:19.900 want the smoke

01:07:20.320 he's always high

01:07:21.000 that's a big problem

01:07:22.660 for him though

01:07:23.020 because I'm not

01:07:23.500 um

01:07:25.600 um

01:07:25.940 I really

01:07:26.800 I really do think

01:07:27.500 a fight between you

01:07:28.240 and Bieber

01:07:28.540 could be really interesting

01:07:29.500 I would buy merch 0.98

01:07:30.780 no shit 0.99

01:07:31.480 it would be one 1.00

01:07:32.160 of the biggest fights

01:07:32.600 I don't think he'd do it.

01:07:34.640 I think he'd be very skilled to do it. 1.00

01:07:35.900 No, I'm not calling him a pussy. 1.00

01:07:36.680 I just don't think he'd do it. 0.99

01:07:37.820 Why?

01:07:38.200 For the same reason I wouldn't fight Trippie Redd.

01:07:39.620 I'm not.

01:07:39.860 He's level.

01:07:41.240 Oh.

01:07:42.500 I don't think he'd do it.

01:07:43.480 But if he did want to do it.

01:07:44.320 You think Bieber's not at your level?

01:07:46.560 I don't bloody well know, do I?

01:07:48.080 I'm off Captain Depp, mate.

01:07:50.680 You see, he's pretending to be someone else again.

01:07:53.500 He said he does that.

01:07:54.780 When he gets in certain situations, he just pretends he's Johnny Depp right now.

01:07:57.920 I don't know how I got these scars.

01:07:59.800 Oh, no.

01:08:00.740 He just keeps changing, bro.

01:08:02.600 this is incredible he's like remember when i said i had demons it's schizophrenia

01:08:07.500 no it is just straight up but funny i actually i've got a company that's almost cured that so

01:08:12.000 hopefully you know what you got a lot of companies i'm companies i'm big in biotech i'm mostly

01:08:16.720 concerned with the skincare obviously like the skincare we could deal with that i've got small

01:08:21.200 routine for you paul and paul's five minutes paul and paul's we're part of we're part of uh

01:08:25.960 paul paul and paul paul's i'm by the way i'm gonna name my my youngest child paul and his

01:08:30.620 middle name will be paul after a great i thought you're gonna say your name after me then and i 0.58

01:08:33.940 thought why the fuck would you do that i'll do one yeah i'm gonna have a bunch but my runt will 0.76

01:08:37.520 be named paul paul paul runt he's gonna be a runt why because he's the youngest he's a runt that's 0.97

01:08:42.620 what a runt no the runts the smallest no no no no it's the smallest not the youngest google that 0.93

01:08:49.460 shit dude that's why i call people i want a pokemon card if you if you get it wrong which 0.99

01:08:53.440 hours are 10 whichever one a runt is the weakest one out of the group smallest it's the smallest 0.99

01:08:57.560 one mate the runts are usually the they they have to show up because they're the smallest yeah they

01:09:02.680 grow and they go oh hang on that's a very just you don't know the way you put that phone down

01:09:06.760 there you read something but didn't share it out loud have we been corrected yet which one are you

01:09:12.520 going to give me and don't make it a squirrel our run our run is the smallest you were both right

01:09:19.960 you owe me a pokemon card charizard that is not can't be like it can't be one of them like zone

01:09:24.120 cards where like they change into random crap like i want like i'll give i'll give you i'll

01:09:27.640 give you a good one i got a bunch okay give them those hot back in the program oh the dog trio 0.95

01:09:32.840 no my pokemon nerds i'm gonna give liam paint a fucking dog trio oh my god it'll be a 10 it'll 0.93

01:09:37.880 be a 10. aren't you having another box opening soon yeah i was really into something now now i'm 0.99

01:09:41.720 fucking doug you're the worst member of the of the hangover let me let me show you let me show 0.99

01:09:47.080 you which pokemon i'm gonna give you doug doug dougie doug what the was that 1.00

01:09:54.120 Look, look, look, look, look.

01:09:55.480 This, this, this.

01:09:58.880 Why are you laughing at me?

01:09:59.580 Is that what really propels the, the, the, the dude?

01:10:03.700 So, so, do you know Pokemon?

01:10:06.200 Yeah, mate.

01:10:07.140 Was I born?

01:10:07.620 Okay, so this is, this is the one. 0.96

01:10:09.560 It's, it's a Dugtrio, but this. 0.90

01:10:10.700 Oh, he's a Dugtrio, but he's like, he's got my body. 0.94

01:10:12.780 Because he's dug in the ground. 0.98

01:10:14.460 He's dug in the ground, but that's what's happened in Underground.

01:10:16.780 No.

01:10:18.420 Okay, yeah.

01:10:18.960 And, and this is.

01:10:20.000 That's not a Pokemon card. 0.99

01:10:21.020 That's just porn for weirdos. 0.99

01:10:23.000 Did you say porn? 0.99

01:10:23.400 What is that, bro? 0.94

01:10:24.860 Not weirdos for people who are in particular things. 0.99

01:10:25.960 I typed in Doug Trio Penis Meat. 0.99

01:10:28.420 Doug Trio Penis Meat. 0.99

01:10:28.940 Why did you Google that? 0.99

01:10:30.740 My history's weird.

01:10:31.800 Bro, do you want to dive in?

01:10:34.520 That should be an internet show.

01:10:36.060 Here we go.

01:10:36.460 Show your history.

01:10:38.240 Strap throw. 1.00

01:10:38.700 We'll all be fucked, won't we? 1.00

01:10:39.980 Beeple toy. 1.00

01:10:41.320 I met Beeple again last night.

01:10:42.420 He's great.

01:10:43.000 Bloody brilliant, Beeple. 0.98

01:10:44.020 He's fucking awesome, dude. 0.98

01:10:44.460 I had such a wild time. 0.93

01:10:45.240 I hope he's all right, though.

01:10:46.200 I hope people are taking good care of him, because he's a good kid.

01:10:49.480 I wouldn't say a kid.

01:10:51.200 No, no, you know what I mean, though?

01:10:52.280 He's a good kid.

01:10:52.580 I don't mean that in a derogatory way at all.

01:10:54.000 Can I ask you a question?

01:10:54.780 Of course.

01:10:55.000 The elephant in the room.

01:10:56.260 What elephant?

01:10:57.460 Why are you in Minneapolis at a Web3 conference?

01:11:00.640 I'm sorry.

01:11:01.400 I just...

01:11:01.960 I completely forgot to ask you this.

01:11:05.220 I am here because I had a phone call with Gary Vee, and I phoned him, and I...

01:11:13.260 Oh, it happens all the time.

01:11:14.760 Bollocks.

01:11:15.560 I had a phone call with Gary Vee, and basically, I was phoning him to help me out with my NFT

01:11:20.440 project, and I really like the project.

01:11:21.680 So I did the drawing myself, everything that I do is self-drawing, and then new characters,

01:11:25.040 the new characters I make myself.

01:11:26.720 And I phoned him, and he answered the phone on Zoom and was like, right, you've got 15 minutes.

01:11:30.520 Don't ask me to do an NFT.

01:11:31.880 And I was like, well, Pollux, that's left me out on a stick now, because I don't really know what I'm saying.

01:11:36.000 So then we started to talk to him about what we were doing.

01:11:38.400 He's like, yo, I've been at home drawing toys, too, the same as I was.

01:11:41.180 And then he linked with that.

01:11:42.160 And then we showed him the whole mental health process and what we were going through with it and whatever else.

01:11:45.600 And he's like, I love this project.

01:11:46.700 He's like, I'm going to spit some fire bars for you guys.

01:11:48.880 This is 45 minutes in of the 15 minutes I was supposed to have.

01:11:51.900 I got triple the time.

01:11:53.140 And our NFT was out before Gary's, any of the VFriends.

01:11:56.400 So if you want to buy the one of one Gary, you're buying it from me, to be honest with you.

01:12:01.060 I am the original VFriend.

01:12:03.380 You can VFriend me via, what's the website for?

01:12:07.280 VFriends?

01:12:07.920 No, it wasn't on VFriends.

01:12:08.880 It was on my own stuff.

01:12:10.300 But yeah, he did some bars, let's say, Gary.

01:12:13.380 He did like a child.

01:12:14.880 It's really good.

01:12:15.500 and i had zed make the music and i had other bunch of people around the back helping city

01:12:18.940 gabe cool and basically the win off for me was that i got my name in an art gallery somewhere

01:12:23.100 from from a picture i drew but i owe gary so i'm here because of the fact that i owe him he asked

01:12:27.500 me to come and talk on the panel i don't let people down um and yeah he asked me to come out

01:12:31.820 and do this and also i support the creative and what i like about these places with nft culture

01:12:35.660 more than anything is one of the seven deadly sins is greed right yeah i believe we need to

01:12:41.420 use greed against ourselves to get to the rain because we can't deny our own ambition right but

01:12:45.660 there's a strong section of the community community being one of the most beautiful words in the

01:12:49.740 british language that wants to help each other and everyone i speak to is going i've got this

01:12:54.060 project where i'm doing so and so and so oh great you know what i know a guy that does so and so

01:12:57.420 all the people that are here right now they only want to help and this is a 10 year game this is

01:13:02.220 15 year game 20 year game however long you want to say you understand what i'm saying right this

01:13:05.820 web 3 stuff is so far away and that's what bothers me about it ever so slightly is like

01:13:09.820 Like, you already have multiverse technology, but we have one universe that we live in.

01:13:13.600 Start here and move outwards.

01:13:15.120 The issue I've had, and I love that, and community is the biggest part of Web3 and NFTs by far.

01:13:19.860 And everyone wants to help each other, but there's a huge thing of this monetary greed that goes on in the background,

01:13:23.420 and that's just for people who are shilling and minting.

01:13:25.780 But then there's a lot of that.

01:13:26.960 And so my question is this, because as I've walked around, I've been here for two days,

01:13:30.320 or a day and a half in this beautiful city, and you go to the bathroom,

01:13:34.280 and somebody comes up to you with dusted ducks, and exactly what I thought was going to happen. 1.00

01:13:38.880 And you go to the next one, Burnt Bikinis. 0.98

01:13:40.540 That happened to me five times yesterday. 1.00

01:13:41.820 I mean, bro, it's like, how do you? 0.99

01:13:42.440 I only got three Burnt Bikinis. 1.00

01:13:43.680 But, like, how do you? 1.00

01:13:45.160 Burnt Bikinis. 1.00

01:13:46.240 Burnt Bikinis. 1.00

01:13:47.380 Dusty Ducks.

01:13:48.000 Like, how do you make sense of, like, what's what?

01:13:49.920 Dude, you should just make names up for a living.

01:13:51.600 I do.

01:13:52.000 Oh, he's good.

01:13:52.460 He's solid.

01:13:53.200 That's why I said.

01:13:53.660 We want more.

01:13:55.220 Toasted.

01:13:57.080 Put on the spot.

01:13:57.880 Are you?

01:13:58.820 Put on the spot.

01:14:00.840 Toasted Turts.

01:14:01.920 Toasted Turts. 1.00

01:14:02.800 That's a worst good one.

01:14:04.280 Wow. 0.98

01:14:04.800 Toasted Turts.

01:14:05.240 Are people pitching you projects?

01:14:06.900 NFC projects?

01:14:07.360 Dude, I'm going to make toast, I'm going to go home and I'm going to make toasted turds the biggest thing in a teaser of a scene.

01:14:11.820 I'm going to go home, I'm going to pay as many people as I can and just be like, throw the money at the wall, make toasted turds a thing.

01:14:19.000 And they pop out of a little toasted, like little turds with different faces, and like every time they pop out, they're a little different. 0.99

01:14:23.300 You use the different shade of shit, you use the exact sound of shit. 0.99

01:14:27.400 What is happening, what is happening? 1.00

01:14:28.320 Fifty shades of shit, that's so funny. 1.00

01:14:30.740 That could be one of them. 1.00

01:14:31.800 Fifty shades of shit. 1.00

01:14:32.680 And when it pops out, you use the sound effect from when that guy choked out the dude in the jujitsu studio. 1.00

01:14:36.600 That little fart that he let out.

01:14:39.080 You're not on board with this project.

01:14:40.680 As your creative manager that I've been thrust into today.

01:14:43.540 You don't want to talk about NFTs.

01:14:45.360 This is my first read.

01:14:46.200 No, it's dude, I get approached.

01:14:49.620 I get approached, I got approached.

01:14:51.200 Okay, we're approaching you right now with the toasted turds.

01:14:53.420 I'm going to tell y'all exactly what I tell 0.99

01:14:56.360 every fucking person that's approached me 0.99

01:14:57.920 at this conference. 0.99

01:14:58.760 Don't embarrass me from my friends, man. 1.00

01:15:00.880 This idea is the shit. 1.00

01:15:01.900 We've got a discord with 15,000 in it. 1.00

01:15:02.980 This idea is the shit. 1.00

01:15:04.400 The double deuce. 1.00

01:15:05.320 50 shades of shit. 1.00

01:15:06.320 Don't do this to me. 1.00

01:15:07.060 Fifty Shades, bro.

01:15:08.000 Don't do this to me.

01:15:08.580 Please, not now.

01:15:09.200 We haven't told you about the utility.

01:15:10.120 I can't do this right now.

01:15:10.600 We haven't told you about the utility.

01:15:11.400 Bro, you get a free, like, toilet wipe with every...

01:15:13.860 Forever.

01:15:14.520 For life.

01:15:15.260 You get a firm wipe.

01:15:16.200 It comes with a bidet.

01:15:17.100 The Discord's got 15,000.

01:15:18.060 You get one angel poo a day.

01:15:18.900 There's a coin.

01:15:19.240 There's a coin attached to it.

01:15:20.740 You get one angel poo a day.

01:15:22.500 So that's why he's here. 0.98

01:15:23.720 You could get a royal flush if you get all of the turds.

01:15:27.900 We have a sing song, too.

01:15:29.160 This is my...

01:15:29.900 Go ahead. 1.00

01:15:30.220 All of it sucks. 1.00

01:15:30.960 All of it sucks. 1.00

01:15:31.800 Here come the Toasted Turds 1.00

01:15:33.500 We rap using words

01:15:35.840 We like animals

01:15:37.620 Don't wear furs

01:15:38.400 Are you in or out

01:15:44.700 Are you in or out 0.99

01:15:46.580 What the fuck is happening 0.99

01:15:49.080 No stop 0.99

01:15:50.960 My least favorite part of this podcast

01:15:53.180 You know what 1.00

01:15:53.640 Fuck this dog 1.00

01:15:55.400 I'm ending this shit podcast 1.00

01:15:56.660 With Toasted Turds guys 0.99

01:15:58.320 Toasted Turds

01:15:58.920 We're chilling the project right now

01:16:00.240 You cannot say that part.

01:16:03.000 That part right now.

01:16:04.700 Let me say this really quick.

01:16:06.620 No one on the show has any affiliation.

01:16:15.060 Doesn't matter what nation.

01:16:16.340 We don't do toast.

01:16:17.140 Okay, listen.

01:16:17.940 I want to say this. 1.00

01:16:21.060 Better not change your motherfucking station. 0.99

01:16:23.360 We're coming up right now. 0.99

01:16:24.960 I want to say this.

01:16:26.540 You want to say this right now?

01:16:28.360 No, actually go.

01:16:29.040 I have to say this

01:16:30.740 No one on the show

01:16:31.880 Has any affiliation

01:16:32.840 With Toasted Turds

01:16:33.560 If the project

01:16:34.180 Does come to fruition

01:16:35.080 It's not us

01:16:36.100 I swear to god

01:16:37.620 SEC

01:16:38.160 F

01:16:38.740 Like

01:16:39.780 They're gonna sample this

01:16:40.700 Because they'll sample this

01:16:41.760 You know it's gonna get made now

01:16:43.560 100%

01:16:44.420 Toasted Turds

01:16:45.600 Yeah

01:16:46.620 Toasted Turds

01:16:49.040 Toasted Turds

01:16:50.040 Toasted Turds

01:16:51.300 Yeah

01:16:52.200 I'm a turd

01:16:55.040 I've been toasted

01:16:55.740 Better yet

01:16:57.420 I've been roasted

01:16:58.180 Yeah 0.99

01:16:58.600 Yeah, I've been liked by the most it never catch me on my fucking post it. Yeah. Yeah. Pull up on a scene 0.97

01:17:05.140 That is stinky. Yeah motherfucking dream. Yeah 1.00

01:17:11.000 All right, fuck it actually 0.99

01:17:20.740 Thank you guys for watching we have paid ladies and gentlemen 0.99

01:17:23.120 If that's what skype doesn't subscribe, but we love you. We'll see you next time. Take it easy. Peace

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01:19:14.980 Wait, they said that?

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