00:30:34.100Now, do you think that you could pop a pimple
00:30:36.200with a ridge wallet back to the show so this is like for you a millionaire before this or no
00:30:42.500i was because i had like saved my money and like i was very sort of like pop uh popular and getting
00:30:48.360like good freelance jobs so i was like paid very well and i'd done collaborations with louis vuitton
00:30:53.240and visuals for the super bowl and stuff yeah i'm i'm i'm reading here on my on my uh cheat sheet
00:30:59.000you do a lot of you video screens yeah i do a lot of like content ariana grand justin bieber
00:31:04.000childless gambino imagine dragons katie perry yeah like i did like the the cover for like the
00:31:08.600imagine dragons their last album art was like my thing and like a bunch of stuff i had done a bunch0.91
00:31:13.360of stuff for apple and like fucking samsung and just you just released nike and nft with uh madonna0.93
00:31:19.100as well which is sick well no it was sick all right it was definitely what's going well you0.96
00:31:26.040do that have you got to spend any time with her i have not met her yet i have not met her we jumped
00:31:30.660on one zoom call we've we've talked a lot on the phone um we've talked quite a bit on the phone
00:31:35.940and we've texted quite a lot um over the course because that's the thing we worked on this for
00:31:40.260like a year and it was just me and her going back and forth like this wasn't through like1.00
00:31:43.840you know layers of management and people there was a plant growing out of her vagina1.00
00:31:47.940yep you just went right into it but yeah that was what a thing a plant is that one of the1.00
00:31:54.200a plant was growing out of her vagina one of the nfts yeah there was three nfts and and so0.98
00:31:59.580long story short we had a conversation a year ago it was like through through gary v actually it0.99
00:32:06.440was like oh madonna wants to talk to you and it was like what what now what was what now so it was
00:32:14.860like oh okay and so you know this was like a couple weeks after the sale maybe and so we get0.88
00:32:21.980on a phone call and we talked for like an hour and it was like holy shit like she's still like0.97
00:32:26.900fucking pissed off and like she's 62 like she's like literally my mom's age and it's like but0.98
00:32:32.580she's very pissed off and like wants to like you know really sort of like get in there and kind of1.00
00:32:38.220like you know ruffle some feathers here and kind of like make a thing of it and so it was like fuck0.78
00:32:43.540yeah and so like on that call we came up with this idea for to make a series of videos where things0.99
00:32:49.820are being birthed out of her vagina it's hard to even really say birth out of her vagina i'm so
00:33:01.820sorry i'm so sorry how'd it do uh well it didn't come out at the greatest time it did okay but it0.62
00:33:09.000was definitely crypto just crashed but it was it and it was all for charity so it was it definitely
00:33:14.920you know the whole thing was like good but it was definitely uh which charity if you don't mind me0.64
00:33:20.140asking i want to know which plant vagina there was a couple charities plant-based vagina charity
00:33:25.380there was three different charities that like uh you know benefit women and children sort of like0.57
00:33:31.260all over the world some are sort of like in parts of africa they're like super super hard to be like
00:33:36.140a woman and and some of them are involved with bail in in the united states um and so just that
00:33:43.340was something that you know we were both sort of wanting to take these very weird visions
00:33:52.220creations and sort of like you know make sure something truly positive was coming out of them
00:33:57.880because there were so many conversations we had and and she definitely is very smart and very just
00:34:03.100like always coming up with great ideas and still just sick so so like creative a true artist so
00:34:09.200creative yeah like every time we talk it was just like oh man that's like you know such a great idea
00:34:14.340to make it better like yeah it was such a such an honor to work with her well i forgot to mention
00:34:19.280that we're both here for vcon oh yeah yeah like we're in minnesota there it is minneapolis at
00:34:24.580the emery hotel emery hotel a beautiful hotel yeah it is awesome um but have you been yeah have
00:34:31.740you gone to the yeah we went over to it today it is definitely fucking crazy dude it's huge1.00
00:34:36.480it's so big it's just like what the fuck that gary is just he is a crazy motherfucker it's a1.00
00:34:42.620stadium yeah it's like a whole stadium how did that happen it's a whole stadium yeah and why1.00
00:34:48.400so it's like down on the like floor of it i don't know why i'm in probably because probably because
00:34:53.600of the stadium i heard maybe the cities might bid for these kind of things like they want like
00:34:58.600that action they might that sounds like some some gary type shit like listen like just super
00:35:04.420is that right is that right well prince was here so i wanted to do it here dude i've been we went0.56
00:35:08.900exploring in the city have you ever spent time in minneapolis before not that much like i i'm
00:35:13.220originally from wisconsin so i've been here like i don't know probably a dozen times or whatever
00:35:18.680and i've got family my uncle lives in the the city here big culver's guy what's up you like culver's
00:35:25.500culver's yeah there it is a little butter burger so gas so gas the um yeah that's yep that's
00:35:33.600definitely that's a that's a hit here um but yeah i've been here a bunch of times but i don't know
00:35:39.040the city that well um overall are you are you uh doing the rounds at the conference are you
00:35:44.960speaking did you meet some fellow nft friends yeah there's a lot of people here there is a lot
00:35:52.380of people are you a star are you a star here when you walk around when i was in new york and i came
00:35:57.540to the the premiere or of the the screening of the everyday sale the little like a documentary
00:36:03.200um you were you were you were the star everyone wanted a picture of you well i mean it was a
00:36:07.960documentary about me i know but i mean it was kind of they came to this thing that's true
00:36:14.540it was like a film about me they were coming to see you make it a good point
00:36:18.520but no no it's definitely no but even at christie's even at christie's when we when we were
00:36:24.320there even not around your installation people are always coming up to you they ignore me yeah
00:36:29.640it was definitely well that's the thing what's what's interesting about like this stuff is like0.98
00:36:35.400yeah at this thing like everybody fucking knows me because it's a fucking nf yeah yeah yeah that's0.96
00:36:39.720it is what it is yeah and so but outside of this shit like it's very on and off like you know i0.98
00:36:46.440walk across the street and then it's like nobody fucking knows you know what i mean like it's very0.97
00:36:51.760much just at these things where it's like very concentrated and it's pretty intense i will say0.98
00:36:57.320that it's it's everybody in that fucking stadium knows me what do you prefer i mean this is this0.98
00:37:03.560is a lot i couldn't imagine being like so fucking famous that like everywhere you fucking go like0.98
00:37:08.240people constantly want to fucking you know take selfies of it's fine i i like it doesn't like0.97
00:37:12.780bother me it's fun in like small doses but i couldn't imagine if you had no like that was0.99
00:37:18.200shelter literally like fucking everywhere you went because it's like you know and go to back0.98
00:37:22.860to charleston or home or wherever nobody gives a fuck nobody fucking knows are you a hero in your0.99
00:37:27.540in your hometown i don't like today my hometown's very small like i don't know i mean i don't i0.96
00:37:38.640don't know i'm not sure how i would gauge whether i'm a hero how exactly that would be expressed
00:37:45.300stay in the town my heracity or whatever do you have do you have a favorite part of uh the success
00:37:51.580is it the money is it the fame is it the is it getting to meet cool people like madonna and
00:37:55.780work with cool people like that i think for me the the biggest part of it that has been
00:38:01.900just so cool is the opportunity that it's afforded me to make art that i just never could make before
00:38:08.240that it's just like okay this like that human one thing like that costs like you know three
00:38:13.180quarters of a million that costs like probably $750,000 to make like it costs a decent amount0.99
00:38:17.640to make and like yeah I was a millionaire before but not like I didn't have like you know a shit
00:38:22.020load of money I couldn't made something like that like I or I wouldn't you're a true artist I
00:38:25.420wouldn't have made something like that because it's like well this is putting a lot of my eggs0.92
00:38:28.820into this thing like I don't know if anybody's gonna want this fucking thing and so like the
00:38:34.620the ability to like make stuff like that that I just could not make and we've got like a big space0.96
00:38:38.780we've got like a 50 000 square foot like factory thing in like charleston now that we're like0.89
00:38:43.700building this crazy fucking gallery and crazy like experiential space so things like that that0.96
00:38:49.880it's like i never would have possibly been able to like dream of making this shit like now i can0.98
00:38:54.500do this thing yeah so it's definitely that to me is like by far the like you know biggest plus of0.92
00:39:00.760this but obviously sort of being able to meet cool people yeah you have all these crazy experiences
00:39:05.440too it's just like for sure obviously another like massive massive like bonus why did you pick
00:39:10.440up the digital graphic career like i i this is what i was confused about why were you doing
00:39:16.940every days so with no like i mean what it sounds like like end goal yeah just making art every day
00:39:23.380just to get better so yeah just honestly to get better but like honestly since we my my parents
00:39:28.920got me a computer in in uh fourth grade i was in fourth grade which was like 1940 which was like
00:39:35.9001992 or something and so hold on a second
00:39:39.540what's up y'all are three years apart in age i don't think anyone's gonna find it as like
00:39:46.500enthralling as you like i was like this i was oh wait you got one right there you got one verse
00:39:53.060that is so funny i don't i'm not sure why that is no i know it's like a thing for the kids man
00:39:58.040it's a whole thing no because you have you have you have it all together you have it together he
00:40:02.660means because you have 90 million dollars that's okay yeah i don't have that you have it you know
00:40:07.780what's going on look at him no idea what's happening he's doing fine he's doing but no i
00:40:14.260was always like interested in in making digital art and it was always something that was just like
00:40:19.020you know super like exciting to me and super fun and like i didn't the money part of it was nothing
00:40:25.520no no part of that I wasn't making any money there was no way to make money it was just like
00:40:31.360I love making this I have to make this stuff like so interesting no part of it you know it was just
00:40:36.520purely out of the like passion of creating this stuff and like can I make this stuff the challenge
00:40:40.720of like making this stuff and so when I started the everydays it was just literally to get better
00:40:45.140at making pictures like that was the entire reason of it and I started out drawing and then after the
00:40:50.420first year started using the computer to to make like 3d images like that and you and you kept you
00:40:56.140you kept all of them throughout the course yeah do you think that's like a a testament or like a
00:41:01.320you know uh to people who are out there creating right now that they should be
00:41:06.520kind of protective and and and safe keep all of their work like did you know when you were making
00:41:12.100piece number 272 like that you should have piece number 272 yeah 100 i mean i don't know why i
00:41:18.980would like delete it it's definitely something that i think assume i would always assume people0.54
00:41:23.720are going to give a shit what you're doing like very far in the future and i'm honestly now
00:41:28.240thinking like well after i die like how is this stuff going to look how is this stuff going to be0.99
00:41:32.580like you know sort of like perceived how is it going to be sort of like released and viewed by
00:41:36.820the like public so i would definitely always sort of like err on the side of that especially because
00:41:41.900you know there's no reason not to keep these things and sort of like as much as you can
00:41:46.780Have you thought about anything you can do to showcase your work to people in the year 4,852?
00:41:54.360Like, have you come up with any plan?0.99
00:41:56.400Like, if there was a nuclear explosion or if anything like that happened to make sure that your legacy lives on for the new breed of humanoids?0.97
00:42:06.120For human number one in the future?0.99
00:45:48.620It's like a little stuffed animal toy.
00:45:49.780I was going to ask how you got that name.
00:45:51.520It's like a little like stuffed animal.
00:45:53.300It's like this big and like you can get them on eBay for now a couple hundred.
00:45:57.120bucks prices going up but yeah and so it's like mostly hair from that but it's also a little bit
00:46:04.300of hair from my from haircuts that was saved from haircuts and they were put in by like tweezers and
00:46:10.820in the vial it's like a tiny bit of like real hair so you have no pets but what what do you
00:46:16.400have beyond just money because like okay kids well i have two kids two kids right because i saw
00:46:22.040one of the auctions and it was which one was the one that there was a video of it where we got to
00:46:27.100watch yeah that's in the the that was so fun to watch that was insane dude dude like your face
00:46:33.340when it was like it was like like 12 million dollars you were like how did you feel because
00:46:39.560in one second we're sitting there and in one second it jumped 25 million dollars and so it's
00:46:46.280like literally in that second i made 25 million dollars and so it was just like oh my god what
00:46:51.240the fuck is going on it was just like who are you with again my whole family was there the kids were
00:46:57.820like there in the background like you know brother sister sister-in-law one of my childhood buddies1.00
00:47:04.920who like is like working with us now that like you know i've known since kindergarten was there
00:47:11.120like and then like two different like film crews were there like it was definitely do you know the
00:47:17.140buyer yeah yeah it's a medical and it's a guy from he's originally from like a very part of
00:47:23.500poor part of of india and one of the reasons that that the piece really sort of like connected with
00:47:29.620him is when i started that piece in 2007 he was working off a thumb drive he was literally could
00:47:37.620not afford a laptop he had to work off a thumb drive and go back and forth and borrow a laptop1.00
00:47:42.760from his buddy and in the time that it took me to make that picture he made a fucking stupid1.00
00:47:48.880amount of money to be able to buy that picture that's cool for a fucking stupid not to be able1.00
00:47:55.140to buy that to be comfortable enough in life to be able to expend that amount of money because he1.00
00:48:00.360doesn't he seems okay still he seems okay still he doesn't seem like that affected him a whole
00:48:06.280hell of a lot he seems like that was just like a thing he did did you have any indication or like
00:48:11.620or like idea from like the auction house or anywhere of what this potentially could go like
00:48:17.100where did you think it was going to net out so people people for like forbes were saying0.99
00:48:22.420that it was like you know it's 50 million dollars and i was just like what the fuck are you guys0.98
00:48:29.480talking about like what the fuck and then right before the auction started literally the morning0.98
00:48:34.720before the auction you know binance yeah of course cz the like head of binance is like a hundred0.97
00:48:40.080million dollars 100 million dollars it's going for 100 million dollars like at the end of the
00:48:43.980like fucking you know twitter spaces or whatever the talk thing was at the time clubhouse clubhouse0.83
00:48:51.640i can't remember the name of it clubhouse or whatever and so it was just like what in the1.00
00:48:57.080fuck is this motherfucker saying 100 million now what the fuck is going on so it was like0.99
00:49:02.500you don't it's hard to believe those things but then as the auction started and it's you know1.00
00:49:08.700pops up to a million dollars in 10 minutes and then it's like you know kind of slowly keeps going
00:49:14.260it was it was just like so bizarre and so like felt very out of body like what is going on you
00:49:22.260could see you could see the video i mean the project really is remarkable and i wanted to ask
00:49:26.640you because you made a post i think it was last week um you you went on jimmy fallon
00:49:32.120and you forgot to post the every oh my god too soon bro i know i know i know but i know0.83
00:49:38.680I know I did you know daily vlogs not for 15 years but I knew what it was like what it meant to miss a day and after 15 years per your words technically you miss that dude it was so fucking we're literally sitting there so I did the thing on the show and then you know in the afternoon whatever five o'clock totally finished whatever but I didn't want to post it because0.77
00:50:08.660it's the big reveal at the end of the show so it kind of like you know ruins it or whatever if i
00:50:13.160just post it and so it's like okay and the show starts at 11 35 eastern time whatever and so it's
00:50:19.200got to be posted before midnight and so i'm like okay set my alarm for 11 45 like okay i'm not
00:50:25.620missing it yeah sorry jimmy it's gonna ruin it a little before the end of the show but like i'm0.83
00:50:31.180not gonna fucking post it after whatever and so i was gonna post it you know after the show started0.87
00:50:36.100but like kind of you know whatever and so i set the thing for 11 45 we start watching the show0.96
00:50:41.980i'm on tv this is great alarm goes off shut that i'm on tv
00:56:58.480You know, four hours of working out, and then just as important, if not more important, the sleep, the food, the recovery.
00:57:05.900Recovery, oh, my God, seven hours a day.
00:57:07.720so i i would i would find my little hack this is more out of camp when it's just like you know you
00:57:16.100should be working out getting physical is whenever i put on my sneakers i'm that much more inclined
00:57:23.200just a little bit more inclined to to go to go do the thing this is someone's thing by the way i
00:57:28.240can't remember who it is but it's never they never take their shoes off from the minute they wake up
00:57:33.020they put their shoes on and they don't take them off until bed because they they found that when
00:57:36.840you take your shoes off you find yourself getting lazy getting comfortable getting relaxed i've
00:57:42.020tried this before i just hate having my shoes on when i'm not doing anything so it works counter
00:57:46.800to what i like if i'm trying to the way but but yes in theory it's it's correct and the way you
00:57:52.140put it was fucking perfect and i've never heard it like that and it's that's the closest i've0.55
00:57:56.900heard and i'm putting it in my mind which is you don't have a lack of ideas you have a lack of0.97
00:58:00.780deadlines no don't you fucking take that no no no i just said that is so good they call dax got0.91
00:58:09.520he called because think about it because you're you're right and that's a people line but think0.96
00:58:14.360about it like it's cool if someone says to you yo you this has to be done you'll come up with
00:58:19.220something you will make it you don't you definitely won't come up with it didn't say you have a lack
00:58:24.340of great i it's not like you're gonna have a bunch of amazing ideas you'll come up with something
00:58:29.180though that's the thing and something i feel like is better than nothing the last thing i had a
00:58:33.780deadline for was my book and you did it and i got they said yo you need to have it done by this date0.85
00:58:38.560otherwise we can't publish and i and i got it fucking done by that date and now there's been0.87
00:58:42.380a lot of other projects that i've wanted to do but i took my shoes off there you know what i'm0.95
00:58:47.300saying but i wanted but i took my shoes off yeah and that's a big fucking project dude that's a0.98
00:58:50.980fucking book books are crazy that's crazy dude i've never written a fucking book like that seems0.99
00:58:55.240in a way you did if you write something for 5 000 days if you create art for 5 000 days your book0.99
00:59:00.480was very much every day your every days yeah yeah but i think i mean yeah it's definitely it's a big
00:59:05.980project and like you had a deadline and like that's how it like fucking happened it's daunting
00:59:10.340it's become even more daunting on the second time around because it's like now i have so much other0.96
00:59:14.160shit going on and they want me to be cranking out this fucking written and it's not something0.93
00:59:18.340like you've you've clearly gotten it down to a science where you can fit your creation into1.00
00:59:23.540your daily schedule so you get your business done you get your family stuff done and then you're
00:59:26.580able to fit this in the writing is is challenging because it requires a very certain amount of
00:59:32.100solitude and and uh and and just being in the right place and time when we're doing shows we're
00:59:38.320doing this we're traveling we're doing it just makes it fucking hard well i think what's what's
00:59:42.200different and and to your point makes writing way harder is you're trying to continue this narrative0.52
00:59:48.120i'm starting fresh every day yes and so it's sort of like i'm starting from square one and so like
00:59:54.320and i also have a very realistic um expectation for what i can do each day like that's it like0.88
01:00:03.360i'm putting a fucking jpeg on the internet like if i do that it's a fucking win like and i want0.99
01:00:08.280them to be good and i fucking you know i'm pissed when i look at it and it's like this is a fucking0.98
01:00:12.260pile of shit and i ran out of time and i have to post it so it's not that i'm not trying to make0.98
01:00:16.680them good each day but i'm not beating myself up because the next day it's sort of like okay i can't0.98
01:00:22.140be worried about what the shitty one i did five days ago when i just did five more of them you
01:00:27.580know what i mean you can't get in your head but with a book you're continuing this narrative so
01:00:31.920you get have to get back into that mindset of this all this it's it's hard of like you can't
01:00:36.700leave it because because in a lot of ways when you're writing chapter 26 you always need to be
01:00:41.080keeping in mind what happened in chapter two yeah and like dude if you separate yourself from that0.56
01:00:44.840strategic outlook on what the overall project looks like it's fucking disaster so it's hard
01:00:49.160and that's where help come see that's where infrastructure comes in in certain projects0.74
01:00:53.320that are outside of uh of daily graphic design or daily vlogging or whatever or or any daily
01:00:58.620pursuit sure is you really need infrastructure you need somebody there that's saying yo like
01:01:02.400this doesn't flow we had the beta readers read you know six of the chapters they don't match
01:01:06.220these six chapters sure sure it's a little bit of a different process yeah you have a full team
01:01:10.220i assume yeah yeah my brother's here and like he's definitely very much like kind of like running the
01:01:15.760team because again like before this i was not like you know i was just me doing my stuff on my own
01:01:22.400and like honestly i would would never sort of like hire people like when i was doing freelance i would
01:01:26.920never really like hire other like animators it would just be like if this is something i can do
01:01:31.640on my own i will do it like otherwise i'm just gonna like pass on it or whatever because i could
01:01:35.960be pretty picky or whatever yeah sure work i was doing um but now we've got like a full team of
01:01:41.060like engineers and stuff and like my brother like um was a mechanical engineer at boeing and so he's
01:01:47.360the one who built that like human one to like box your brother built that you built that the guy
01:01:53.340the team there yeah and so that's like you know we didn't like go to a company to build that like
01:01:58.120that was built in our like factory space and stuff and so yeah to me that's like very exciting to be
01:02:03.440able to like sort of have these kind of like visions or sort of you know ideas and then have
01:02:08.760this team in place to like be able to like execute on you have some some big stuff in the pipeline
01:02:13.080we got a we got a couple things we're doing we got a couple we got a couple irons in the fire0.98
01:02:19.580i will say that we got a couple irons in the fire bigger than madonna's plant vagina0.96
01:02:26.840it's definitely i mean with the whole space there which you know we'd love to have you out there it's
01:02:33.320It's something where we're really trying to, like, look at this as a place where the community can, like, come together and sort of, like, have events and, like, have smaller events, too.
01:02:42.020And just sort of, like, do charity things and do, have, you know, concerts and stuff there and have art shows and have, like, all different things.
01:10:34.540Like, they can make fun of, like, anything.
01:10:37.900And, like, they have this ability to say things through platforms.
01:10:40.820And, like, and I think that's what's, to me, really exciting and, like, fun and freeing about art is this platform to be able to, like, say things that, you know, are very weird.
01:10:52.140What were you trying to say in the Logan Paul breastfeeding himself?
01:14:47.780He gets right up next to the microphone.
01:14:49.480I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other.
01:14:52.600You've never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween.
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