Impaulsive with Logan Paul - Forrest Galante On NELK Boys Backlash, Hooking Up On Naked & Afraid, $3B Secret Animal Sanctuary

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00:00:29.420 Ladies and gentlemen, it's Forrest Valante.

00:00:31.660 The first TV thing I ever did, this silly survival show,

00:00:35.380 where you run around naked and see if you can survive in the jungle.

00:00:38.040 I just did that in Ibiza for the past two weeks.

00:00:40.600 Literally 24 hours ago, I was sleeping, this is going to come out wrong, with a giraffe. 0.65

00:00:45.900 She was nice, though.

00:00:47.440 Those little pygmy hippos, when they grow up, they're probably the meanest animal on planet Earth.

00:00:51.540 No way.

00:00:51.900 Every time I'm around these things, they try to kill me. 1.00

00:00:55.080 You went with the Nelk Boys to an uncontacted tribe. 1.00

00:00:57.680 They gave them a vape. 1.00

00:00:58.460 Oh, they loved it.

00:00:59.400 Really?

00:00:59.920 Yeah.

00:01:00.340 And the Ambani family contacted me and said, we'd like to invite you to this incredible

00:01:04.000 facility in India.

00:01:05.060 The animals are eating better than I am. 1.00

00:01:06.620 That's insane.

00:01:07.780 100 humans versus one gorilla.

00:01:09.520 Who's winning?

00:01:10.040 A gorilla will smash.

00:01:10.980 It'll destroy everything in this room, but then it's going to gas out.

00:01:13.160 What if the gorilla trained cardio? 0.83

00:01:15.140 Long story made short, I do this whole song and dance trying to catch the snake, and I'm

00:01:18.560 just about to turn and look this way, and I just feel the thing starts crawling up my

00:01:22.300 neck.

00:01:22.680 And that venom, I think it said like one drop has the potency to kill a thousand people. 0.77

00:01:26.420 or his like dude we got a hard out at 350 which is in 41 minutes which is not in enough amount of

00:01:40.880 time to fully dissect this podcast with this guy right here ladies and gentlemen it's forrest

00:01:45.520 galante wow that's some hype right there right into the fire buddy welcome sorry yeah i told

00:01:53.100 him i was like bro come on we can show up to kimbo a little late and he gave me a look and now he's

00:01:56.700 telling me the talent arrives when the talent arrives i like yeah but that's what you want

00:02:01.120 that's what you want 100 yeah like a heel yeah dude how are you i'm really good guys thanks for

00:02:08.020 having me this is fun yeah of course man yeah dude you're active oh yeah we'll move around a lot i

00:02:13.040 just flew in from texas right now for this i feel like texas is probably the most tame place that

00:02:17.180 you've well i was at colossal which i heard from ben you've been to and yeah i didn't know there

00:02:22.520 was that connection i mean the connection is just that i've been there um that's something

00:02:25.860 but but i will say huge fan of what they're doing that's cool super intrigued yeah is it really a

00:02:31.580 dire wolf i mean yes according to the genetics right so i mean i know there's a lot of controversy

00:02:37.300 i'm not a geneticist but it sure looks cool yeah totally what the hell are you guys talking about

00:02:41.840 sick job guys just leaving you out right out of the gate mike yeah it's it's it's the de-extinction

00:02:50.640 company the one that got super famous for uh uh basically genetic genetically engineering correct

00:02:56.560 this this this dire wolf exactly that has been extinct for 10 000 can they bring back the dodo

00:03:01.340 bird there they are oh yes they are now if i can get involved with that project yeah i don't care

00:03:07.040 about a definite dead wolf whatever it is but a dodo bird i would like to be at the dire wolf

00:03:11.460 it's in the pipeline allegedly a woolly mammoth mikey yeah that's cool too 2028 now they're saying

00:03:16.920 What's the big bird?

00:03:18.260 Samoa.

00:03:18.880 It's the giant ground bird from New Zealand, like 11 feet tall.

00:03:21.800 Does that have a bigger wingspan than the albatross?

00:03:25.680 No wings.

00:03:26.460 No wings?

00:03:27.180 The only giant bird in here.

00:03:28.720 Because even ostriches have weird little wings.

00:03:30.800 This thing has no wings.

00:03:31.660 What does it have?

00:03:32.520 Nothing.

00:03:33.320 It's like a big bird from Sesame Street.

00:03:36.580 No.

00:03:37.080 Hold on a second.

00:03:38.200 Can they make it yellow?

00:03:39.100 I hope so.

00:03:39.980 They should.

00:03:40.480 They make it really cool.

00:03:41.420 No arms?

00:03:42.300 No arms.

00:03:42.960 No arms.

00:03:43.520 Nothing here.

00:03:44.360 Like just a body with legs?

00:03:46.420 Yep.

00:03:46.600 and a head and a neck and a head.

00:03:48.220 Isn't that crazy?

00:03:49.380 Hamburglar almost.

00:03:50.540 Wait, can I ask you a question?

00:03:51.620 So you have an 8.8 primitive survival rating.

00:03:56.380 Oh, there you go.

00:03:57.140 Yeah, I suppose so.

00:03:58.840 No, it's crazy because we have people on all the time

00:04:01.320 and they always have different metrics for success.

00:04:04.060 They're in like the sixes.

00:04:05.200 X amount of followers or like,

00:04:06.820 oh, they scored this many touchdowns in the Super Bowl.

00:04:09.380 You just come on with that 8.8. 0.99

00:04:11.800 That's like a big swinging dick around these parts, bro. 1.00

00:04:14.300 You know, that's what I say. 0.99

00:04:16.600 Because, dude, like, for example, bro, he's got a dad, like many of us do,

00:04:20.880 and his dad, his name's Greg Paul,

00:04:24.920 and he would consider himself to be somewhat of survivalist, right?

00:04:28.520 Okay, I like that.

00:04:29.460 But, I mean, dude, if you put him in a room with you, dude,

00:04:32.800 like, or not a room, maybe a forest or, like, a swamplands

00:04:36.720 or something like that, I can't imagine he'd be more than a –

00:04:40.140 what do you think Greg would get from a – how do you get that rating?

00:04:44.680 I mean, first of all, I think we got to just throw Greg out there and see what happens.

00:04:47.600 But, yeah, I mean, the first TV thing I ever did, this is going back nearly 10 years ago now,

00:04:53.580 was Naked and Afraid, which is where I got that score, which is this silly survival show

00:04:58.060 where you run around naked and see if you can survive in the jungle for 21 days.

00:05:01.960 I just did that in Ibiza for the past two weeks.

00:05:05.000 Yeah, but we came back with different diseases.

00:05:07.660 And everyone was afraid of him.

00:05:09.540 Yeah, that's right.

00:05:10.600 Yeah, they were surviving you.

00:05:12.040 You guys got me feeling ostracized again.

00:05:13.680 Good job.

00:05:14.300 okay okay so yeah go ahead sorry my bad no you're good uh so yeah so i just i went down to panama

00:05:21.100 and i treated it like a vacation and i i don't mean to sound arrogant but it's it wasn't that

00:05:26.200 difficult i knew the landscape i had fun yeah and that's why i got that super high score brother

00:05:30.860 that's insane because let me tell you something survival show fanatic oh yeah survival show

00:05:35.940 fanatic no way oh and i know how hard it is for most people yeah you're saying it wasn't that hard

00:05:40.940 I literally treat it like a vacation.

00:05:42.360 It was easier than work.

00:05:44.340 That's insane.

00:05:45.580 Did you get lucky though?

00:05:47.300 Like, let me ask you that question.

00:05:49.560 Like you say you knew the landscape.

00:05:51.700 So like you obviously have some understanding of Panama, how it works.

00:05:54.940 Like if they had put you into like Siberia, would you have scored as high?

00:05:58.960 No, definitely not.

00:05:59.920 I did get lucky.

00:06:00.900 I mean, I've spent a lot of time in the tropics.

00:06:03.460 I found old journals from when they were building the Panama Canal and the military put out survival guides for the people building the Panama Canal.

00:06:10.420 and read those old journals. It's interesting because I'm a biologist, right? So that's what

00:06:14.380 I do is I study wildlife biology. And I picked up these journals and I just studied what are

00:06:20.060 the common fruits, vegetables, animals, things like that. And I'd been to Panama before and I

00:06:24.900 knew the jungle a little bit. And then in addition to that, I got put on the coast and I'm pretty

00:06:28.300 good in the water. I do a lot of diving and spearfishing and stuff. So those two things just

00:06:32.720 made it like a kind of a tropical vacation. And I mean, I'm not saying it wasn't hard. It was still

00:06:36.780 hard but it wasn't you know the breakdown crying i'm miserable i want to go home i had none of that

00:06:42.840 like everyone else on yeah exactly and every other survival show and what every producer there told

00:06:47.040 me to do they're like you got to cry you got to be upset you got to fight for your life i'm like

00:06:50.480 why i'm chilling i was like i got 30 pounds of potatoes back at the hut i'm chilling i'm good

00:06:56.320 well okay but what about i have to ask the being naked parts yeah it's pretty out there no i mean

00:07:01.400 especially with the wiener i mean not when it's not very big like mine but

00:07:05.340 no i mean humble two bro humble king uh it just you know you're over it in 10 minutes it's like 0.99

00:07:13.100 yeah you're naked you see this girl she's naked and then you're like right we got we got shit to 0.97

00:07:17.180 do you know we got shelter to build food to find that kind of thing totally inappropriate question 0.99

00:07:21.500 i'm prefacing with no it's good was there any sexual tension i i have to ask because sometimes

00:07:26.860 people what we watch these shows it's a good question it's a good question is there any if

00:07:30.180 there's chemistry like how does that work for her definitely not yeah so we could leave it at that

00:07:36.800 but no i mean look she she was a pretty girl she just wasn't didn't have the nicest personality

00:07:41.420 or we weren't very compatible so that that nipped it in the bud pretty quick okay well i could

00:07:45.940 overlook that easy dude yeah for one for one night for one night for sure but when you're stuck with

00:07:51.360 them with nobody else to talk to for 21 days it gets pretty old why why have they and maybe they

00:07:57.020 have forgive me producers if you have done this but why haven't they done like a like an all-stars

00:08:02.480 one where they bring back like the highest scoring they have they have they've been they've asked me

00:08:07.120 a bazillion times no i'm just sorry i didn't mean it like that but um they've asked me a lot of

00:08:12.280 times to do it but i you know i went from that i never really wanted to do survival it's not my

00:08:16.060 thing i'm good at it i practice it but i like the wildlife stuff and the animal communication stuff

00:08:21.420 so i started my own production company off of that and then rolled it into you know the shark

00:08:26.260 weeks and the extinct are alive and all the tv shows and social media and stuff that i do now

00:08:30.420 so you're like you've kind of grown out of it a little bit definitely yeah you wouldn't do alone

00:08:34.520 uh no i don't really see any purpose to the money it's like half a million if you win i like what

00:08:40.480 i'm doing i'd rather you know to me the money is not the most important thing i'd rather do what

00:08:44.660 i'm doing which is communicate like this passion for wildlife and animals more than just spend

00:08:48.680 time surviving and being miserable yeah well that's that's a whole thing i mean i mean like

00:08:52.780 Like, it's truly, when I sat down, I said, like, to pretend we're going to do this all in 40 minutes is actually shameful.

00:08:59.640 Like, what you do is so rich.

00:09:01.900 Oh, thank you.

00:09:02.420 You have such an insane career.

00:09:04.400 Now, I hate this question when people ask it to me, but I'm going to ask it to you.

00:09:07.120 Okay.

00:09:07.480 How would you even describe yourself?

00:09:09.640 Yeah, I struggle with that, too.

00:09:10.920 I mean, I like to humbly just say I'm a wildlife biologist, but I think really, on a bigger scale, what I am is like a wildlife communicator.

00:09:19.500 You know what I mean?

00:09:19.940 I color lions and move elephants and find extinct species and work on ecosystem restoration and

00:09:27.080 consult for colossal biosciences, work with this incredible facility in India that our friends

00:09:33.040 and elk boys came to. And I do all these various things and put it all together somehow to make a

00:09:38.660 living. But at the core of everything I do is just trying to teach people about wildlife and

00:09:43.480 the outdoors. That connects people to it. For sure. Incredibly noble pursuit. I feel like not

00:09:48.800 a lot of people are and it's fun as shit that's the thing too like i live my dream every day i'm 0.57

00:09:53.120 very very fortunate in that regard i get to travel around the world work with the most incredible 0.95

00:09:57.820 speed literally 24 hours ago i was sleeping this is going to come out wrong with a giraffe

00:10:02.740 yeah oh brother can't say 2025 man yeah yeah she was nice though um no i'm just kidding where the

00:10:10.900 hell is this naked and afraid lady it sounds like much um no i was at a place in texas called oak

00:10:16.800 meadow ranch that's like this like you like hang out it's like an airbnb with animals everywhere

00:10:21.880 but it's really cool really noble cause and stuff and i was there looking at their cheetah habitat

00:10:25.740 that they're building and stuff like that so i get to do really really cool and fun stuff so i'm very

00:10:30.460 lucky we were at ventara oh that's right yeah a month before you guys that's right i forgot about 0.95

00:10:36.220 that insane facility the imbani family in india yeah um did you like it i mean yeah mind blowing 0.71

00:10:43.460 No, it's unbelievable. 1.00

00:10:44.960 It made me realize, like, there's levels to this shit. 1.00

00:10:48.880 Yeah. 1.00

00:10:49.240 You know?

00:10:49.880 I mean, I try and describe it to people, and I'm definitely going to get in trouble here,

00:10:53.080 but it, like, just because of the size and the scope and the scale of it,

00:10:56.520 it makes, like, the San Diego Zoo, the Singapore Zoo,

00:10:59.340 these incredible prestigious zoos look like a roadside attraction.

00:11:02.480 It's insane.

00:11:03.120 Yeah, the size and scale, I mean.

00:11:04.960 And it's built with so much taste.

00:11:07.420 Right.

00:11:07.660 It has so much, like, elegance to it as you're walking around.

00:11:11.460 It's insane.

00:11:11.660 It's insane. How did you get them to allow you to film and then post a video?

00:11:17.480 Yes. So as you know, they're very like strict and secretive about it all. So I actually,

00:11:22.500 I didn't even know anything about it other than whisperings from various zoo people and things

00:11:27.040 like that. And then the Mbani family contacted me and said, we'd like to invite you. And I went,

00:11:32.740 I probably similar to what happened to you, I imagine. And I just went and walked around it.

00:11:37.240 And then I had a meeting with Anat and he said, you know, what do you think?

00:11:40.160 yeah i and you i don't know if you met with him but he wasn't there when unfortunate i got to

00:11:45.160 speak with him on the phone and super cool guy yeah but he just said to me like he's like you

00:11:49.400 know you work in conservation and animals what do you think and i was very blunt i was like here are

00:11:54.240 the things that are wonderful here are the things that could use improvement blah blah blah and he's

00:11:57.980 like okay what else do you think and i was like well if you want me to be honest i know you've

00:12:01.800 never allowed cameras in here but i think the world should see this it's such an incredible

00:12:05.800 place. It's so noble. It's so beautiful. You're doing such an amazing thing for wildlife and for

00:12:11.400 conservation. You're literally writing the playbook on how to manage animals in captivity

00:12:15.400 moving forward into the future. And he's like, okay, do it. And I was like, wait, what? He's

00:12:19.980 like, if you want to bring your team and film and put it out there, run it by my team. But if you

00:12:24.180 want to do it, do it. He's like, I know who you are. I know the kind of stories you tell. He's

00:12:27.760 like, if you want to do it, do it. No holds bar. Tell any story you want. Go for it. And we did.

00:12:32.460 And it was awesome, yeah.

00:12:33.980 The level of care they take of their animals

00:12:36.300 is, like, nicer than I feel like some humans live,

00:12:39.100 and I mean that.

00:12:39.620 Oh, yeah, it's unparalleled.

00:12:41.280 It's unparalleled.

00:12:42.620 They eat better.

00:12:43.200 I mean, when I'm there,

00:12:44.120 and this is not a diss on them,

00:12:45.860 but the animals are eating better than I am.

00:12:47.400 No, seriously.

00:12:47.940 It's incredible.

00:12:48.640 All organic.

00:12:48.980 I see this elephant getting, like, washed

00:12:50.660 by, like, four people at one time.

00:12:52.380 Elephant just on his side.

00:12:53.720 The massage.

00:12:54.820 Elephants that have joint-ish elbows.

00:13:00.520 Elephants that have, like, joint-ish issues

00:13:02.200 and, like, are basically withering away.

00:13:04.060 They let them float around in the pool so they can, like—

00:13:06.120 Yep, the hydrotherapy pool.

00:13:06.800 Yeah, yeah, it takes the weight off their joints.

00:13:08.700 It's unbelievable.

00:13:09.100 Yeah, it's insane.

00:13:09.980 Mike, did you go on that?

00:13:11.100 No, I wasn't on that one, unfortunately,

00:13:12.840 because it looked like an incredible trip.

00:13:14.660 I didn't go.

00:13:15.480 Sorry, Logan, I didn't mean to interrupt.

00:13:16.380 No, just a little context for the audience.

00:13:18.480 The Mbani family, the first time I had heard about them

00:13:21.580 was the wedding that they had.

00:13:23.640 Yeah.

00:13:23.840 One of the most expensive weddings in history.

00:13:25.680 Yeah.

00:13:26.120 Like, $250 million, $250 million, $250 million.

00:13:30.440 He's about to beat that, by the way.

00:13:32.000 oh there you go yeah good luck you got Bieber playing too at this point yeah getting out of

00:13:39.000 control I'm getting married next month congratulations that's awesome in Puerto Rico

00:13:42.220 in uh in Lake Como oh in Italy that's awesome yeah yeah congrats man thanks man yeah he's never

00:13:48.000 gonna get this sentence out keep cutting him off me no that was it that was it uh I don't know too

00:13:53.420 much about the wedding but I I all I know is what I saw in the tabloids and it was this big show and

00:13:58.780 And, you know, I think there was a cruise or something.

00:14:01.140 I don't know.

00:14:01.720 I know Justin Bieber played at it.

00:14:03.220 I know that.

00:14:03.760 Was it Beyonce, too?

00:14:06.340 Me?

00:14:06.860 I don't know.

00:14:07.660 I wasn't there.

00:14:08.580 No, no, no.

00:14:09.020 I know.

00:14:09.480 But he did say he would have invited me if he had known me at the time.

00:14:12.660 So I.

00:14:14.320 Next one.

00:14:14.940 Catch the next one.

00:14:15.400 We tried to get a performer at our wedding.

00:14:17.960 Akon.

00:14:18.540 Oh, yeah?

00:14:19.080 Yeah.

00:14:19.280 But then he asked for half a million dollars.

00:14:20.920 Oh, that'll nip that in the bud.

00:14:22.180 Well, he needs it to pay for that bankrupt city.

00:14:26.380 I mean, it did. 0.96

00:14:27.460 didn't what happened to that damn i actually i actually don't know i know exactly what happened 0.95

00:14:32.180 well go ahead it just didn't work oh well no i was crazy shout out akon he was very 0.88

00:14:38.260 he's awesome hey if you keep getting access like this dude something tells me more and more people

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00:16:36.180 about marriage, parenthood, sex, divorce,

00:16:38.920 and all the nitty-gritty stuff we all think about,

00:16:41.360 but just don't say it out loud.

00:16:42.440 I hate that job.

00:16:43.340 You're probably just going to meet some rich guy

00:16:44.900 and he's going to whisk you away

00:16:46.060 and I'll never see you again.

00:16:48.560 Would you say a D-list actor?

00:16:52.040 D?

00:16:54.020 I don't even know there's such a thing as D.

00:16:55.860 No, no, no.

00:16:56.520 I can't even get on the C-list.

00:16:58.000 I'm not even average.

00:16:58.820 I'm not even passing.

00:16:59.780 I'm failing.

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00:17:11.960 Go, oh my God, I just got goosebumps, to North Sentinel Island, okay?

00:17:16.820 Which is, oh man, to me, like, that's like the Mecca of remote places, okay?

00:17:23.220 And they said, dude, we're going to give you, I don't know how they're talking to you, by the way,

00:17:26.180 but we're going to, bro, we're going to give you access to come check out our digs.

00:17:30.060 Like, if they hit you up somehow, would you do it?

00:17:32.580 I wouldn't.

00:17:33.820 I know, I know, I know, I know.

00:17:35.520 But can I explain myself?

00:17:37.180 I wouldn't because that is a culture.

00:17:39.500 Do you know the origin of why they don't want anybody to come there?

00:17:44.020 Is it because of the lack of immunities to everyday civilized illnesses?

00:17:48.600 So this is like, from my understanding, and I might get crucified here,

00:17:52.460 but it's been very greenwashed as to what actually happened.

00:17:55.360 So what I've heard is that they actually did invite missionaries in a very long time ago.

00:18:01.600 Like we're talking about 80, 100 plus years ago.

00:18:03.780 Okay.

00:18:04.000 and one of the very first groups of westerners that went there i don't know if it was the

00:18:09.060 missionary or the priest or just a an onlooker or whatever um ended up being like a child you

00:18:16.200 gotta be so they brought epstein to the island so they they brought up

00:18:20.880 uh laughing matter uh but no so so what happened was it for everybody so what happened was the

00:18:29.460 sentinelese got really upset because this in came this western devil and started fiddling with the

00:18:34.640 kids yeah and they killed that person and everybody else and said never again we're not letting and

00:18:39.160 that was that's like the representation of the way of the civil and that's been passed down

00:18:43.460 generationally and they don't want anybody in and would you imagine no so so my point so back to

00:18:49.160 would i go i wouldn't want to mess with that not for my own safety or anything i just they're a

00:18:54.000 culture that has decided to stay isolated i don't want to go force myself on that do you know what

00:18:58.480 i mean i i think that would be how long you think how long you think that could let you think it'll

00:19:02.260 just continue on i mean look they're protected in multiple ways before you get to the shore that the

00:19:08.440 indian navy is going to get you yeah like they're going to come they're going to arrest you you're

00:19:12.160 not going to get close enough to him but some people have gotten close enough and dude how

00:19:16.580 crazy is it that the the last guy that went or at least documented case thought that bringing

00:19:22.560 christianity was going to be the answer right and really he was just being a replica of what

00:19:27.420 happened the last time that's so he came he's like i come in peace you know with the cross and the

00:19:32.580 bible and everything and they just hit him they're like we know what you guys yeah yeah exactly and

00:19:36.540 they hit him with the spears the blunt objects dude those they have never they don't know anything

00:19:41.160 they don't even know that logan's even going to be in uh uh summers jersey so yeah fighting jelly

00:19:47.340 roll i had to try to explain jelly roll to the north you couldn't you could not i wanted to ask

00:19:52.240 about that as well i mean okay actually sorry i have to throw up really quick bro this could be 0.99

00:19:56.740 a two-hour episode no it is by the way cancel the Kimmel shit cancel the Kimmel shit I'm not 0.99

00:20:01.620 going it's not happening uh you went with the Nelk boys yeah to an uncontacted tribe 1.00

00:20:06.960 pretty much yeah uh-huh they gave him a vape they sure did Salim did yeah

00:20:11.960 that was that was uh so let me let me explain that a little bit okay so Kyle contacted me and

00:20:19.560 was like yo would you take us to meet this tribe and I was already going to Vanuatu to a very nearby

00:20:25.820 Island at that time of year. And I was like, look, if you want to jump on, we can go over to Mota

00:20:30.180 Island, which is the island that has this very, very remote, very traditional tribe. It's not

00:20:34.680 truly uncontacted. You know, there's literally one Western guy named Brett who goes there and

00:20:39.480 is part of the tribe and stuff. I see. And he speaks through him through another translator.

00:20:43.540 They speak. It's a whole thing. But I said to Kyle, I was like, look, we can go to Mota like

00:20:48.660 they live a very traditional way, blah, blah, blah. But this is how the vape thing came up. 0.52

00:20:52.880 but they really appreciate they're not like the north centralese they they have exchange and stuff 0.92

00:20:57.900 and they really appreciate ciggies like you know bring bring some heaters and they'll love you for 0.93

00:21:02.600 it you know so kyle being kyle he landed at the airport in vanuatu and bought like five grand 0.96

00:21:09.300 worth of duty-free cigarettes and so we got there and part of it was giving out the cigarettes and

00:21:15.140 they were stoked i don't remember if that went on camera or not but they the tribesmen were super

00:21:19.940 happy to have because they just use like hand rolled like dirt cigarettes and they had like

00:21:23.760 you know Marlboro Reds or something so they were stoked but by the second day they had smoked

00:21:28.060 through a thousand plus cigarettes and Salim standing there with his vape and he's like here

00:21:31.900 you want this you want this and so they took it that's so funny it seemed like they enjoyed it

00:21:36.440 oh they loved it they loved it it seems I could see how a viewer without that context thinks it's

00:21:43.220 fucked up yeah it was a bit of backlash oh totally and I mean I that's not my department you know I

00:21:48.120 stay out of that kind of thing were you able to stay out of that i mean i was there i was on the 0.97

00:21:52.240 island but i can't control i mean you know what cal and the boys are like you can't control those

00:21:56.120 guys and not in a bad way they're a ton of fun but you know i i have no control over that is it

00:22:01.280 true i heard i heard uh uh maybe it was a different uncontacted tribe which by the way maybe they're

00:22:06.860 uncontacted or not i heard uh one of them was introduced to porn and then oh and they got

00:22:13.040 like severely addicted yeah that was steiny um no i'm just kidding

00:22:16.940 no uh no that's a different thing so my understanding of that is in the amazon

00:22:24.420 somebody came in with like starlink or one of these internet things and was like we're gonna

00:22:28.780 help you and this happens almost every time people interfere with other cultures they're

00:22:32.940 like we're gonna help you here's some starlink internet and some phones straight up straight

00:22:37.440 up they're like wow shave boxes never seen that before and they so it like ruined the whole call

00:22:43.580 oh man yeah oh that's the collapse of society is because alana rose's ex yep so you gotta be 0.99

00:22:49.240 careful with that shit man yeah that's crazy dude apparently what do you think is the most 0.99

00:22:54.220 dangerous thing that they could do like right off the rip do with a phone it's i can't be 1.00

00:22:58.560 oh it's definitely it's it's it's gotta be dude like like well porn it's free it's easily

00:23:03.180 accessible you know they don't have money they can't buy stuff but you think about it like

00:23:07.200 all of us sitting here, we, you know, you probably remember when smartphones came out,

00:23:11.780 got your first smartphone, started using it, whatever, video games. We've had sort of a little

00:23:15.640 bit of a rollout of this stuff. Yeah. So you can get a little desensitized to it, you know,

00:23:20.720 and we're still all addicted to our phones. I'm on my phone all day. I'm sure you guys are too.

00:23:24.140 All day. But imagine coming in cold to someone who's never even seen a cell phone, probably

00:23:28.800 never seen a screen and then handing it to him and be like, here's everything in the world to

00:23:33.420 access you know it's just like and if you have any questions here's chat gpt yeah exactly just

00:23:38.640 ask you anything yeah imagine being the first like villager would to get clout yeah you know

00:23:45.160 what i'm saying like 12 instagram followers how many followers you got 12 and they're just like

00:23:49.580 start acting different yeah switch they switch up on their village dude he lives at the top of the

00:23:55.460 hill he's got like coconut sunglasses on dude so something uh really interesting that i that i i

00:24:01.640 i'll see these videos and i like to think about um i saw this one video of someone showing one of

00:24:06.780 these like uncontacted tribes a mirror uh-huh right and for the first time in their lives

00:24:11.440 these people are seeing themselves these indigenous people are seeing what they look like and and and

00:24:16.620 this guy's holding up this thing that kind of looks like a portal right but it's reflecting

00:24:19.780 your reality back to you right and they were looking at this guy like he's like a witch or

00:24:25.860 they're like confused about the like the nature of their existence it was insane and um i believe

00:24:31.300 this is even where the the term cargo cult oh it came from i don't know i think i think i got this

00:24:36.420 from jesse michaels but basically they uh uh would drop off uh a cargo uh like truck or wagon full of

00:24:45.260 full of goods to these indigenous tribes yeah and they'd refill it every now and then and so this

00:24:49.740 they would start worshiping this this this cargo way yeah right and it became this cult-like thing

00:24:54.680 where they're now worshiping this it's it's it's an it's humans bringing this thing it's yeah it's

00:24:59.700 It's a real thing that they thought was like God because it provides life.

00:25:02.740 Yeah.

00:25:03.100 And I think that's where the origin of Cargo Cult came from.

00:25:05.460 But I often wonder because I'm super into the alien and UFO conversation as well.

00:25:11.320 It's like, is there a, in your opinion, hyper-advanced version of humans that exist or another inhabitant of this planet that would have technology that would perplex even us civilized people?

00:25:27.160 and also is that in your wheelhouse at all it's not but i'm happy to have opinions on it you know

00:25:33.080 like i i study i study life that's what i do as a biologist right i study animal life in all my

00:25:39.020 travels and things there are weird anomalies that you cannot explain you know i i just saw a thing

00:25:44.800 and this has nothing to do with my travels but have you ever seen the cell phone in the mike

00:25:47.860 tyson photo you know what i'm talking about oh in 95 you know what i'm talking about mike yeah i

00:25:53.980 remember. I just saw this recently. In 95, Tyson had a fight. In the back left, bottom left corner

00:25:59.420 of it, there's a guy taking a phone on a white iPhone or a Samsung or something, which is, you

00:26:04.060 know, 25 years before that phone came out. So there are weird little anomalies like that that

00:26:08.620 I think are, and that's just a weird, broad pop culture example, but there are weird anomalies

00:26:13.340 like that that I just think cannot be explained. And I don't know if that's an act of God, an act

00:26:19.120 of aliens, an act of ancient civilizations, more and more information comes out about lost

00:26:24.660 civilizations in the Amazon and old cultures that were much more advanced than we think.

00:26:29.320 So whether or not there's still a few sort of controlling beings running around, it seems

00:26:34.340 unlikely to me, but I personally wholeheartedly believe in the whole universe there are more

00:26:39.980 advanced beings than us. Whether they're on Earth or not, who knows? But I mean, infinite

00:26:45.080 replicable planets and solar systems and stars there's got to be other planets with more advanced

00:26:50.180 beings than us i guess that's the crux of my question why i'm asking you this is because

00:26:54.020 you've seen so much yeah um of of the earth and even like i imagine ancient civilizations yeah

00:26:59.480 you just mentioned lost civilizations um and i wonder if it all ties into the same conversation

00:27:05.140 or they're different conversations with hyper advanced uh intelligence and and uh potential

00:27:10.600 lost civilization even like uh the conversation with those structures those cylindrical yeah

00:27:16.200 structures that were found beneath the pyramids do you have an opinion on that i think that there's

00:27:21.080 going to be more and more information that comes out i think we as human beings are very arrogant

00:27:25.160 and thinking we know so much about everything and as time goes on as long as we don't kill

00:27:30.080 ourselves or blow ourselves up i think we'll learn that there there's more connectedness to

00:27:34.340 everything than we think it's just like the food web or the food chain whatever you want to call

00:27:37.700 it. We never used to think that if you killed all the sharks, everything underneath it would

00:27:42.020 collapse. Now, as time's gone on, it's like, well, if you take away the keystone species or the apex

00:27:46.760 predator, the whole system collapses. And I think the universe is probably just a big system and

00:27:52.420 it's all connected. Do you know what I mean? I 100% know. Yeah. So what do I think about the

00:27:57.340 weird LIDAR structures underneath the pyramids? No idea. Not an archaeologist, not a geologist.

00:28:02.400 Don't know anything about aliens. I think it's connected on the big picture to stuff we don't

00:28:06.760 understand let's talk about some stuff that you have some knowledge i'm so sorry dude

00:28:12.400 i just feel like you've seen a lot i feel like you've seen a lot you want to know what he's

00:28:18.020 seen he had a run for his life from a hippo when it charged its canoe in africa i just did that

00:28:23.380 again like three weeks ago damn i was catching hippos in columbia the free dive face to face

00:28:28.300 with a saltwater crocodile got bitten by multiple sharks bitten by venomous snake 0.99

00:28:32.340 you're a psychopath yeah yeah what like which one of these things was maybe the the scariest moment 0.95

00:28:38.260 i like chat gpt's outline of me there no it's actually pat's oh nice 0.98

00:28:42.340 the most scary of all that the scariest stuff for me is always human element because like if i make

00:28:51.320 a mistake if i make them you know look i get a bite from a shark or something if i make a mistake

00:28:55.860 that's on me like i've done something stupid i've pushed the animal too far i've crossed the line

00:29:00.700 in the sand. What I can't control is when rebels in Mozambique decide that we're doing something 0.96

00:29:07.460 that we're not and they want to kill us. Or when people in Myanmar decide they're going to throw

00:29:11.060 us in prison for life because we brought a drone in unknowingly and all these other various like 0.99

00:29:15.500 stupid things that we've ended up doing. But it's always the human element that's way more scary and 0.97

00:29:20.360 way more dangerous because it sounds ridiculous, but you can ration with an animal. Like if I have

00:29:25.760 a close call, it's like, okay, don't get that close to that elephant. I made a mistake. Everybody

00:29:29.560 stay back like nothing bad happened you can't do that with a guy with an ak-47 in your face you 0.98

00:29:34.360 know by the time the ak-47's in your face you've already crossed the line do you think do you think

00:29:39.200 that some of that comes from a place of uh of ptsd from what happened in your childhood with

00:29:44.780 your home in zimbabwe it's a good question i i think that so for context for anybody listening

00:29:50.440 i grew up in zimbabwe my family got kicked out of there in 2001 during all of the land reform

00:29:54.800 because there's a lot of political which is still going on today right it's uh much more mellow than

00:29:59.200 it was. There's much less murders and things like that, but the country's economically collapsed.

00:30:03.660 So a lot of people got left like my family. And I don't know if I have PTSD or not, but I think

00:30:10.100 it's shaped who I am as a person. It's made me very resilient. It's made me work really hard,

00:30:14.560 which I love doing all those things. And I think that it's also on the positive side,

00:30:20.180 it allows me to go into these super remote places all around the planet with different cultures and

00:30:25.360 be able to communicate with them because I did grow up in Zimbabwe. I do, I do know how to talk

00:30:29.200 to tribal people. I know how to barter for things. I know how to hide when I need to hide or run when

00:30:33.800 I need to run. And I, I think it's really helped me in my life. What was that moment like when you

00:30:39.120 were forced out of your home? Uh, was that, is that the fast track land reform? Is that what

00:30:44.980 it's called? Uh, I don't, it was the Robert Mugabe regime land. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was, what was

00:30:49.580 that like uh the most distinct memory of look it was bad the thing is we were going through at the

00:30:55.760 same time as every other zimbabwean farmer was going through it you know so there were shootouts

00:31:00.380 all the time we got chased there was gunfights there was all the stuff going on people getting 1.00

00:31:04.840 killed that we knew and loved and it was sort of this regression but zimbabweans by nature they 0.96

00:31:10.800 dig their heels in they fight back they stand up for what they believe in so it always kind of felt

00:31:14.800 like this is never going to happen to me even though things were like literally closing in on

00:31:18.920 us. And I have this distinct memory as a kid of like the war veterans had surrounded our property.

00:31:25.380 They weren't real war veterans. They were kids with guns, but they'd surrounded our property.

00:31:28.560 They'd taken all the neighboring farms already. We were the last one standing because we were the

00:31:31.740 smallest farm. So they came for us last because we weren't that financially important. And my mom

00:31:36.800 was a single mom. My dad was out of the picture and she was running this farm with two kids.

00:31:40.980 And my mom goes, go upstairs, lock yourself in your room, grab the gun. So I ran upstairs,

00:31:45.820 locked myself in my room, grabbed a gun,

00:31:47.200 but I, being a 14-year-old boy,

00:31:48.980 I, like, looked over, you know,

00:31:50.480 looked out the window to see what was going,

00:31:51.880 and she was surrounded by all these guys with guns,

00:31:54.040 and she started crying.

00:31:55.380 She walked back in the house.

00:31:56.680 She said, get your suitcase.

00:31:57.620 We already had suitcases packed.

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00:34:17.220 they gave her a chance because she was a single woman everything else they didn't just kill her

00:34:20.340 anything they gave my mom a chance to leave grab the suitcases I fought it I was like no I'll fight

00:34:25.180 this blah blah and she's like get in the car so I got in the car and I remember the set and I don't

00:34:29.860 want to make this a sob story but I was driving down my driveway leaving and my little dog that

00:34:35.440 I had since I was nine years old was running behind the car and I remember looking at my dog

00:34:39.980 and I get a little choked up

00:34:40.860 because I'm more of an animal person

00:34:41.980 than a human person.

00:34:42.940 And my dog was trying to catch me

00:34:45.440 and I never saw that dog again.

00:34:47.200 And that was like a really hard moment

00:34:48.900 of like, that's my whole life

00:34:51.420 got left behind like that.

00:34:54.280 Crazy.

00:34:54.860 It was, it was nuts.

00:34:56.260 But like I said,

00:34:57.320 I think it's shaped me to who I am today.

00:34:59.180 And I don't want to be a sub story guy.

00:35:00.660 Like I've done a great job.

00:35:01.320 I mean, dude, it's hard to not, to not.

00:35:02.940 I mean, you, you know,

00:35:03.680 you got forced from your home as a kid

00:35:05.120 and it's, and you know,

00:35:06.180 as a, as a kid,

00:35:07.060 your home and your pet

00:35:08.080 and you know, is everything.

00:35:09.660 Yeah.

00:35:09.980 exactly it's all you know yeah yeah and then so then you come back to the states yep yep and you

00:35:15.360 grew up in socal yeah bounced around we were in government welfare housing in oakland which was

00:35:20.460 not nice back then wasn't all hipstery like it is today and uh bounced around ended up in cayucas

00:35:25.780 california blah blah blah and then i went to ucsb and i don't know if you know ucsb university

00:35:31.060 california santa barbara great place beautiful girls i played rugby there uh you know was in

00:35:36.320 the frat stuff, like had so much fun, loved being there, cemented that relationship with biology,

00:35:42.460 because I always thought I was going to grow up to be a safari guy, which is what my family did.

00:35:45.540 So when you can't be a safari guy in California, I studied it instead, became a biologist,

00:35:49.640 and then just rolled that more and more into trying to share that passion for animals and

00:35:55.540 nature with the world. Got it. You don't seem like you do it all, but do you have any trouble

00:36:00.980 interacting with or finding that burning connection with humans as you do animals i don't

00:36:08.980 think so i'm not introverted you know i i'm married i have two kids i love my wife i love

00:36:13.940 my kids i i've very close friends i don't think so but i don't i don't go to therapy so i don't

00:36:19.900 know it sounds like you're doing pretty yeah you you you straddle the line and can hop back and

00:36:25.500 forth uh both sides i just i just know some people who are that i find them a little more introverted

00:36:31.100 which is maybe why animal conservation people yeah sometimes tend to be a little more introverted

00:36:37.100 which is maybe why they get along with animals more than they get along with humans look if you

00:36:41.940 can dedicate your life to studying any animal it's probably because you're not socially very

00:36:47.200 acceptable i see you know what i mean and it's like it's cart and horse but i don't have that

00:36:51.900 problem i guess i don't know but i just i like people and i like animals more can we can we talk

00:36:57.280 about some of this animal stuff and do a little bit of superlative work here so i know you said

00:37:02.580 you're most scared of or or i guess you have the most fear of humans because they're unpredictable

00:37:06.960 nature yeah um but going back to animals specifically what is what is an animal that 0.76

00:37:12.060 scares the shit out of you uh there's two and the first one's a boring answer but i'll say it

00:37:16.440 anyway one's mosquitoes because you can't control it right you have no control whether you're going 0.98

00:37:21.160 to get malaria or dengue or any of these things when you're dealing with mosquitoes and they suck 0.99

00:37:26.100 fucking suck they suck so much and the other is fucking hippos dude every time i work with hippos 0.99

00:37:33.480 they nearly kill me i've been working with the colombian government because you know about 1.00

00:37:37.300 pablo escobar's cocaine hippos oh my god yeah i'm the guy who's working on catching and cutting

00:37:42.640 their nuts no way yeah i have a whole show on discovery coming out about that in like two weeks

00:37:47.460 no way yeah it's called cocaine hippos called animals on drugs wow that's amazing that's amazing

00:37:53.280 cocaine bear yeah great cocaine hippos wow so i've been working with the colombian government

00:37:58.200 not to catch them all and do that it's impossible it's a huge task but to help build the blueprint

00:38:02.520 of how to do it so we've been building traps we've been chemically castrating we've been

00:38:06.840 sterilizing we've been castrating physically doing surgery wait tell me why too many hippos

00:38:11.760 Yeah, sorry. So Pablo Escobar brought four hippos to Hacienda Napolis, which is this big dope hideout in Colombia that was unbelievable. I've now been there a few times. And when he got killed, they're like, all right, we need to put the cheetahs in the zoo. We need to move this. We need to move that. And then everybody was like, well, we're not touching those fucking hippos. They're going to kill somebody. So they just opened the gates and let them out. So four hippos turned into what is reported to be 120 now, but it's actually well over 200.

00:38:39.000 But the problem is these are hippos in South America where they have no natural predators, unlimited food.

00:38:46.040 They're a very dangerous animal, and they're just multiplying like rapid fire.

00:38:50.940 And they're hurting people.

00:38:52.240 We've interviewed multiple people.

00:38:53.440 They've killed a couple people.

00:38:54.900 They're destroying the environment.

00:38:56.400 They're killing nesting area for certain turtles.

00:38:58.440 I mean, they're not doing it on a war path.

00:39:00.660 They're on a war path. 0.68

00:39:01.220 It just sucks because Mudang, he was so cute, a baby hippo.

00:39:06.460 Oh, my God, they're adorable. 0.81

00:39:07.760 He would.

00:39:08.580 Oh, yeah.

00:39:09.000 don't be fooled those little pygmy hippos that's a pygmy hippo it's a much smaller one when they

00:39:13.300 grow up they're probably the meanest animal on planet earth no way yeah i was gonna ask you that

00:39:17.080 aren't they like one of the most dangerous like bro they're psychos they have rage issues like 1.00

00:39:22.980 you can be i sound so stupid no you're psychoanalyzing a hippo this is great if we were 0.99

00:39:27.560 in this room right and there was a pygmy hippo in that corner if it was like people it would just 1.00

00:39:33.380 go full send at you to try and kill you and no reason how fast can they move uh i don't know

00:39:38.520 pygmy hippos probably like 35 40 miles an hour faster than you how much do they weigh for me 0.99

00:39:42.460 uh the pygmies are like five six hundred no like 400 300 400 pounds and there's no way you'd win 0.99

00:39:48.160 that fight no no way why the the bite force they're just they they're first of all the main 1.00

00:39:53.460 like maybe if you had a sword or something but they're this much layer of fat after an inch of

00:39:58.940 skin that's basically you know you can't punch through it you're not going to do any damage 1.00

00:40:02.120 razor sharp teeth and a fucked up attitude like they're just so shitty don't they kill don't 1.00

00:40:07.920 hippos kill like a lot of people every year the big ones do yeah the adult like so the the large 1.00

00:40:13.000 hippos not the pygmy hippos are the most dangerous animal in africa okay so i was just in columbia

00:40:19.920 do you mind if i tell you guys a story yeah so we're just in columbia and there's this there's

00:40:23.040 this island in the middle of the river now there's like one thing again my family used to run safaris

00:40:27.740 right so there's like one rule in africa which is like never walk near hippos in thick bush because

00:40:32.140 if you can't see them they have bad eyesight and they're very flighty they'll just attack it's like

00:40:36.400 a known thing. Well, guess what? In the jungles of South America, it's all dense. There's no open

00:40:41.800 savanna lands like there is in Africa. So we're working with the Colombian government and they're

00:40:46.120 like, okay, in the middle of this island, in the middle of the river is where the hippos go during

00:40:50.380 the day. Cause there's like a little mud hole wallowing area, but you're walking through Amazon

00:40:54.680 type jungle to get there. And we're cruising through and it's so thick. I mean, you literally

00:40:59.180 kind of see me to the cameras, you know, cause it's just walls of vegetation. And all of a sudden

00:41:03.360 we like come like you get to the edge of the vegetation and from me to the camera is this hippo

00:41:09.340 sitting in like a muddy pool that it can't submerge and so it just panics comes running

00:41:14.220 right out luckily we all split in a million different it was me my camera guys the biologist

00:41:18.360 everything we all split in a million directions and it came towards me and my sound guy and then

00:41:23.080 we turned left and it turned right but it's like every time i'm around these things they try to 0.99

00:41:27.380 kill me you gotta be careful bro i know it's stupid you have you have a plan uh not really 0.99

00:41:33.180 no bro i would hate to hear some news about you being mauled by an animal no i'm good man i'm on 1.00

00:41:38.940 top of it i i take those risks myself okay i'm doing that if i get hurt it's because i'm doing

00:41:44.380 it okay and i love what i do it was very exciting and we caught that hippo and cut his nuts off so

00:41:48.600 he he deserves yeah charging my boy uh more chill now yeah for sure he's more he's just now he's

00:41:58.660 just sitting in that swamp just hanging dude you cut anything's nuts off and it becomes more chill 0.61

00:42:02.380 yeah yeah that's not my xl bully i feel like i feel like my xl bully is just still just a freak 0.92

00:42:08.640 well how do you know what he would have been like if he still had true he could be freaking

00:42:12.160 right now um uh this dude this conversation makes me so happy and i'm positive you've

00:42:18.420 already answered this because you're the guy to ask the following question um was burning the

00:42:23.880 internet 100 gorillas versus one human love this question who's winning who do you think you guys

00:42:30.500 weigh in and then i'll give you my opinion wait sorry sorry 100 humans versus one gorilla you

00:42:36.080 I did say 100 gorillas.

00:42:38.440 That's crazy. 1.00

00:42:39.480 That's the best stuff.

00:42:40.540 Yeah.

00:42:41.060 So, okay, okay.

00:42:42.300 100 humans versus one gorilla.

00:42:44.560 Who's winning?

00:42:47.300 It has to be the humans.

00:42:48.700 I'm with the humans.

00:42:49.260 It has to be the humans.

00:42:50.040 You're both right.

00:42:50.700 You're both right.

00:42:51.300 That's a lot.

00:42:52.020 Because, first of all, 100 people is a shit ton of people. 0.51

00:42:54.580 A lot, yeah. 0.94

00:42:55.060 And a gorilla is not an endurance athlete.

00:42:57.480 So that's the thing.

00:42:58.460 I saw your answer on this, actually.

00:42:59.980 Okay, so you know.

00:43:00.940 Yeah, so it went kind of viral when I asked you.

00:43:03.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:43:03.660 but it's just they're just not made for endurance you know a gorilla smash it'll destroy everything 0.56

00:43:08.700 in this room but then it's going to gas out if you have a hundred people yes 30 40 50 people

00:43:13.780 might get killed or destroyed but then it's going to gas out completely and then you're just mobbing 0.96

00:43:19.000 on a gas tank yeah connor gregor round two type shit that's right yeah what if the gorilla train 0.99

00:43:23.560 cardio uh i'd have to do a lot of training like one of those gorillas on vo3 one of those vo3 0.99

00:43:27.860 gorilla i think that i think you'd fuck them up okay what about what what if people just had the 0.73

00:43:33.040 animal wrong the whole time because i do want to ask you this too you know what i'm saying like 0.99

00:43:38.700 what if it was a what if it was a fucking polar bear uh i would think the polar bear will do a 0.98

00:43:44.640 lot more damage than a gorilla so wow well a polar bear is 14 1500 pounds bro can we talk about this 0.99

00:43:50.860 yeah can we really talk about this i don't think people really understand that what was that height

00:43:56.840 used again like what's the average they're like four i fact check me on this but they're like

00:44:00.440 1400 pounds okay a gorilla is 300 pounds bro for scale so and not and not armed with freddy

00:44:07.860 kruger's hands correct exactly like how does that how does that animal even really exist like how

00:44:14.120 is that a real thing it sounds like something out of a nightmare what's the what do they say about

00:44:17.080 the um the three color schemes brown lay down oh yeah black fight back yep white say good night

00:44:24.900 that's it you got no chance you have no chance none whatsoever and they're one of only three 0.70

00:44:29.680 animals four animals that choose to actively hunt human beings what yeah um no but they're they're

00:44:38.120 too big they're too strong and the reason they've got so big and they are so strong is they hunt

00:44:42.020 whales and walruses and these giant marine mammals i saw this one video of a polar bear on the edge

00:44:48.440 of its ice block like swiping at the orcas running or not and then the orcas like these whales coming 0.90

00:44:53.740 by i'm like this guy's a fucking it's crazy belugas and narwhal yeah yeah and then they'll 0.89

00:44:57.740 you'll see you know when you look at the scale like when you're looking at the video you're like 0.99

00:45:01.280 oh the polar bear's this big and then the whale's this big but keep in mind that's still 12 feet

00:45:05.520 long that bear and then he jumps in the water and pulls it out like a dog with a bone yeah and he

00:45:10.260 pulls out this whole whale i mean they're so yeah so my answer is the polar bear would so are they

00:45:15.060 are they like are they the apex polar bears yeah of the planet yeah like i know it's weird and

00:45:21.980 doesn't make sense but you put it in the room with the silverback a lion yeah this is a good

00:45:27.840 question you know what i'm saying like what is this planet's apex predator truly i mean humans

00:45:31.720 are right we've colonized okay okay sorry uh i mean predator polar bear there's no predator in

00:45:40.100 the world that'll beat a polar bear i believe that but an elephant could beat a polar bear

00:45:44.320 correct yeah the large herbivores like a huge elephant a big bull african elephant well there's

00:45:50.340 nothing on the on that walks on land that can defeat it i what about a mouse what about a mouse

00:45:55.040 yeah they get so pull up their skirt i remember those cartoons yeah they follow i went on a i

00:46:00.360 went on a safari which by the way if you have the opportunity yeah to go on a safari one of the

00:46:06.760 coolest experiences of my life dude i gotta take you on a real safari um i was gonna ask the link

00:46:12.260 after this because i would i want i dude i'm an adventure guy i want we gotta go on so let's go

00:46:16.340 i'm not even joking you turn the cameras off let's go tag let's go collar elephants tag lions

00:46:22.520 yeah i mean collars on giraffes things that conservation needs i mean that's the cool stuff

00:46:27.280 i love that flying around in helicopters darting elephants putting collars on them moving them

00:46:31.560 we got to do we got to do that with an elephant i wasn't in the chopper i wasn't in the chopper

00:46:36.540 but i got to be there when they what did they do they took like a blood sample or something

00:46:40.800 something um it was it was sick but man you really don't understand how big an elephant is

00:46:46.500 oh yeah especially when you see this thing take down a tree yeah take down a tree like it's

00:46:51.380 nothing like it's nothing isn't it crazy and i i wouldn't push on some of these trees i'm like

00:46:55.240 they gotta be like weak trees yeah no no no no no they just ravage everything it's crazy and you

00:47:01.180 like put your hand on one's head because i've darted and moved elephants and stuff a lot and

00:47:04.880 you go to one that's sleeping you put your hand on its head and its eyeballs like this and you're 0.99

00:47:09.580 like that's its eyeball you know let alone its feet or its ears or it's unbelievable it's dick 0.99

00:47:15.100 they've got massive yeah it's almost like a fifth leg it is it really is yeah it's crazy your name 0.98

00:47:21.280 is forrest and you do what you do i know thank god my mom was a hippie really helped yeah it's

00:47:26.580 almost like i feel like every guy i know named rich yeah is insanely rich oh yeah shout out rich

00:47:32.400 Yeah, shout out to Rich.

00:47:33.000 I'm watching this from Saint-Tropez.

00:47:34.280 Oh, there you go.

00:47:35.020 Hey, you know, speaking of deadly animals, what about snakes?

00:47:41.140 What about them?

00:47:42.000 Love them.

00:47:42.440 Okay, okay, okay, okay.

00:47:43.360 See this stuff, I get very curious.

00:47:44.560 Because it's crazy.

00:47:45.320 We talk about all these large animals, but then in some weird world, like you said,

00:47:49.280 the actual scariest animal could be this snake and could take down any of them, dude.

00:47:53.900 Isn't that crazy?

00:47:54.500 Kill rates for snakes way higher than any large animal.

00:47:56.760 Crazy.

00:47:57.300 Way higher.

00:47:57.900 Yeah.

00:47:58.300 Okay, so obviously, like, we've got rattlesnakes.

00:48:01.100 We've got cobras.

00:48:02.280 it's got the black mamba is that the deadliest snake on the planet uh not by kill count but it

00:48:09.360 has one of the strongest venoms the strongest venom of any snake on the planet is the inland

00:48:13.580 taipan oh so in australia of course dude i have a crazy story about a taipan too but in australia

00:48:20.960 um they have a couple types but basically an inland and a coastal taipan which is like a mamba

00:48:27.240 it's like their version of a mamba and that venom i think it said like one drop has the potency to

00:48:31.880 kill a thousand people oh my god yeah so if you get bait you're cooked completely you're good

00:48:36.300 they have do they have an anti-venom i believe they do but like all anti-venoms it's it's not 0.99

00:48:41.380 shelf stable you have to make it like every three days cost a hundred thousand dollars a vial yeah

00:48:46.100 yeah so you know the likelihood of in australia their medical is really good but the likelihood

00:48:51.020 that you're getting to a hospital in time getting treated getting enough vials it's like slim to 0.99

00:48:55.220 none dude what's the deal with that that uh continent man like and just that whole outback 0.99

00:49:01.200 situation it's so weird bro like it's like very weird how do they end up with like everyone is in 0.93

00:49:06.280 this like one little tiny area and then the whole rest of the country in the middle of perth and

00:49:11.480 and sydney that sandwich the whole rest of the country is just giant spiders and kangaroos that

00:49:17.980 box each other and like snakes that will kill you with one bite it's nuts it's crazy how did that

00:49:23.460 happen well it's actually really interesting have you ever heard of the wallace line so nobody

00:49:28.060 understands what this is. So if you think of a map of the world and you go over from like Indonesia

00:49:33.320 towards Australia, halfway through that is this thing called the Wallace line. It's an imaginary

00:49:38.080 line and no mammals that we think of as in tigers or monkeys or any of those things cross that line. 0.93

00:49:45.000 So for whatever weird reason that nobody, you want to talk about aliens and shit that nobody

00:49:49.540 understands, there's this imaginary line called the Wallace line and everything on the right hand

00:49:53.680 side of that meaning like papua new guinea australia blah blah blah has its own completely

00:49:58.560 unique fawn animals and that's where all these marsupials come from and kangaroos and snakes

00:50:03.760 that aren't related to any other snakes and all this weird shit lives on the right hand side of

00:50:08.600 the wallace line and you can literally cross over the line i'm talking about like a hundred foot 0.79

00:50:12.760 difference and then all of a sudden you have every other type of animal on the planet and this goes

00:50:17.840 across dozens of islands like big land masses everything it makes no sense that feels inexplainable

00:50:22.820 It is.

00:50:23.340 Do you think it has to do with potentially like a mountain range that exists in the area that like blocks a certain type of like dampness of air?

00:50:32.420 Because isn't the Australian, like for the outback itself, right?

00:50:36.660 Isn't there a mountain range on the east side of Australia that creates an arid environment that blocks?

00:50:43.420 Like a big rain shadow.

00:50:44.480 Yeah, like it protects Sydney, Brisbane, and all those places.

00:50:48.000 And then when you move to the left of it, you get this arid desert.

00:50:50.980 australia has every type of landscape it's such a weird place that's why i ask and now to be and

00:50:56.600 and the weirdest part the weirdest wildlife there is the women and the people bro they're sick

00:51:02.740 they're sick and i mean that in the most respectful way because i love australia yeah they're fine i 0.99

00:51:07.140 love their their people bro but you get them out of australia they go nuts bro they're they're crazy 0.99

00:51:11.860 they're actually like built different than yeah like you know everybody looks at america's like

00:51:16.640 loud boisterous like yeah the guys and the girls are this and that bro australians have us be in

00:51:21.720 every single category dude i i played rugby a lot like i love rugby and uh every time like we had

00:51:28.260 australian teammates or playing against a team full australians i was like well my liver is gonna 0.98

00:51:31.780 hurt like these guys are gonna out drink out drug out fuck anything you do australians go harder 0.97

00:51:37.240 yeah guaranteed 100 some about that island it's a weird play and i love it there which side of the 1.00

00:51:44.560 wallace line are they on they're the well i mean i don't know i guess the right side maybe the 0.97

00:51:49.240 animals are staying away from the australian yeah right yeah that is a good point fucking psycho 0.69

00:51:55.140 lines are scared of them so when i was in australia this is like seven eight years ago now 0.81

00:51:59.480 i was filming a scene for a show i had on animal planet called extinct or alive and all of a sudden 0.77

00:52:04.260 uh we're in this aboriginal community and the aboriginal people start screaming snake snake

00:52:07.700 snake snake and i look and this like probably eight foot taipan goes racing under this house 0.56

00:52:12.040 that's like up on cinder blocks and this guy's like holding a cinder block like this i'm like

00:52:15.480 wait wait i'll catch it i'll move it for you like don't kill it because i don't you know i don't

00:52:18.520 really like things to die needlessly and um so long story made short i do this whole song and

00:52:24.380 dance trying to catch the snake and he's curled up under this house that's up on like three cinder

00:52:27.960 blocks i'm looking with my flashlight i got my snake hook i lose sight of him under the house

00:52:32.340 the house because it's up on cinder blocks has like three slotted stairs going up to it 0.96

00:52:36.720 i'm like where's that fucking snake gone i can't find i can't find it so i decide to stick my head 0.92

00:52:41.460 through the slats of the stairs right to look for it with my flashlight so i stick my arm and stick 0.98

00:52:45.640 my flashlight i look this way and i'm just about to turn and look this way and i just feel this

00:52:50.220 thing swear to god starts crawling up my neck and i just freeze i've just told you guys like

00:52:55.260 literally one of the most venomous creatures on planet earth one bite and i'm dead and i'm like

00:52:58.700 12 hours from anything and uh and this this coastal taipan not the inland but the coastal

00:53:04.240 crawls literally over my neck and over my arm and down and coils up over there and it just goes

00:53:10.220 show you they're not aggressive yeah you just mess with them and they're gonna get upset and uh yeah

00:53:14.760 thank god it didn't bite me especially on the neck ended up catching it moving it after that

00:53:18.940 but it was crazy that is insane i get goosebumps just thinking about that time i would definitely

00:53:25.420 classify that as a near-death experience yeah how many of those have you had uh a few now

00:53:33.820 unfortunately yeah i mean a couple plane crashes that one i thought i rubbed snake venom in my eye

00:53:39.140 one time i thought that was going to kill me uh yeah a couple a couple bad things plane crashes

00:53:44.840 too yeah bro come on what are you how what one was in zimbabwe where i grew up and uh plane got

00:53:51.980 struck by lightning so all the instruments went down then when we came to land uh because all

00:53:56.880 the instruments were down we couldn't see what was going on big storm and the wing hit the termite

00:54:02.080 mound you know you have those big termite mounds in africa so the plane just yeah so plane was

00:54:07.600 trash we're okay broken ribs stuff like that but otherwise good and the other one was actually in

00:54:11.900 panama um and uh that was less dramatic the plane just went off the end of the runway and into the

00:54:17.620 trees just a little fender bender yeah yeah i mean still a total plane but it was like

00:54:22.920 into the trees oh you're you're a psycho i don't know but but a lot of this a lot of it sounds

00:54:30.400 safer to me than wrestling people to be honest i don't know i don't know because we're just 0.93

00:54:34.920 risking like paralysis from either the waist up or waist down not our lives uh still sounds scary

00:54:41.260 actually actually that's not even true i don't know i don't know that's so funny i'm afraid of

00:54:46.800 what you do that's all right we can be afraid that's crazy what are you gonna say i was just

00:54:50.600 gonna say a lot of the stuff that you're doing has like a has like an uh a potential to impact

00:54:55.860 positively the world right and it's you found you found eight species of animals that were

00:55:00.820 thought to be extinct. That's right. Yeah. What were, what were those animals? Can you like

00:55:06.700 rattle them off? Sure. Yeah. If you want, I think it's awesome. Yeah. So it's the Fernandina tortoise,

00:55:11.580 the Miller's grizzle Langier, the Rio apoporous caiman, um, the Zanzibar leopard, and then four

00:55:18.040 different species of shark. How do you not notice where a turtle is? They don't move very fast.

00:55:23.620 It's a good question. So this was on a very remote Island in the Galapagos that gets no foot traffic.

00:55:28.500 it's closed to the public and only one specimen of that species had ever been found 114 years prior

00:55:34.540 and to date it's still the only known individual so whoa one one tortoise that's you know this big

00:55:41.080 on an on a big island and we tracked it down and found it so cool and what's and what's what

00:55:45.920 happens when that happens what's the protocol first of all do you go crazy like oh i go ape 0.89

00:55:50.600 shit it's it's my wife will kill me for saying it's happiest moment of my life way better 0.95

00:55:54.660 that's great bro think about what you're doing that's so different than than what everyone else 1.00

00:56:01.160 is doing yeah yeah i'm having kids is a beautiful and wife and all that stuff but you're bringing

00:56:06.200 back a species it's no tortoise mike it's no uh no i mean i i lose it like i get emotional i go

00:56:14.180 crazy i mean i think that's why the shows are successful because i'm so passionate about these

00:56:18.120 things but you know like i dove in this bush like that thing was a cheetah and it was a tortoise

00:56:23.060 wasn't going anywhere scooped it up and held it up and it was it was literally the happiest moment

00:56:27.440 of my life and i was holding to date the rarest animal on planet literally more rare than the

00:56:33.120 dire wolves they brought back because there's three of them this is the only individual of

00:56:37.000 the species known on planet earth so it's the rarest creature on earth and it's just for me

00:56:42.160 it's just like so exciting so to answer your question i used to try and get involved in the

00:56:46.360 ongoing conservation and management of the species but i'm just like the hide and seek guy i'm the

00:56:51.980 mercenary you know i hand it over wherever i can or i work with governments and local organizations

00:56:57.000 and then they take on the management or the conservation of that species and i go on to

00:57:01.600 try and promote awareness and help and find the next thing so what did they do when you found that

00:57:06.720 like what was the next step so fern which is what we named her got moved to the fausta lorena

00:57:11.380 breeding facility which is where lonesome george the other last ever big tortoise was on santa

00:57:16.680 cruise island and then um i had a bit of a falling out with the columbian or the uh galapagos

00:57:21.600 government unfortunately oh man yeah they weren't too sorry to hear it they weren't too happy that

00:57:25.940 i found the only tortoise that they hadn't been able to find in 114 years no because it was like

00:57:31.260 an ego thing yeah but come on anyway i don't want to discourage them but they never invited me back

00:57:37.600 to go look for more and they've mounted three or four expeditions since to find a mate for fern and

00:57:42.120 they've not succeeded oh man you know it's so funny uh ever since i first heard about charles

00:57:46.640 darwin uh-huh going to the galapagos island as like a child yeah i had always wanted to go there

00:57:51.480 it's on my bucket list oh you gotta go yeah incredible the coolest thing about it the animals

00:57:56.260 are very unique yes but what's even cooler than that is there's not a single animal that's scared

00:58:00.820 of you because there's no big predators there so like you can walk up to a seal or a sea lion and

00:58:06.460 it'll like try and hug your feet oh man or or you'll be walking where all these iguanas are

00:58:11.120 and they just look at you like nothing runs away because the people came there so late yeah in time

00:58:15.980 and they've never had any natural land predators so nothing's scared of you so it's like being in

00:58:20.240 this like almost like eden where all the animals are like friend friend it's unbelievable so cool

00:58:25.500 but yeah i don't know if the government would have me though like i like like egypt won't wouldn't

00:58:29.380 let me go with mr mr jimmy beast to go live in the pyramids for really days wait they specifically

00:58:35.320 said no logan paul yes that's exactly what they said jimmy you can come stay in our pyramids

00:58:41.080 all three of them unfettered access for a week jimmy as long as you don't bring logan paul no

00:58:46.940 way they said they said that yo imagine they really just don't like you wwe stuff it was uh

00:58:52.180 yeah like because you're like they they're a jelly roll fan yeah no he uh uh they also said

00:58:57.300 vitaly who had who had climbed one of the those two people yeah which in my head i'm like i've

00:59:03.420 never been to egypt yeah never talked shit about egypt i love egypt yeah what could it be and i

00:59:08.100 think i found it i found out what it was what is it do you remember the guy who went on joe rogan

00:59:16.460 he's a super famous egyptologist he's egyptian he's he's the guy who digs up the mummies and

00:59:22.880 the old guy smokes all his cigars yes i do remember that oh i don't know i don't know his name he's a

00:59:27.760 doctor i think i think joe rogan said i think he might have said this to me he was the worst guest

00:59:32.040 he ever had on well because well because rogan was like pressing him about like like what could

00:59:38.760 be and he's like no like there's yeah yeah yeah that guy no it's impossible that there's aliens

00:59:43.820 out there and it's like yo like is it impossible like and he's like engage with me in the conversation

00:59:49.040 yeah yeah so i think this is just my gut but i think based on seeing that sentiment i've been

00:59:57.400 kind of out smoking about who who built the pyramids i've just been asking questions and

01:00:02.040 they don't like that i don't think they like like when what else could i have done besides that one

01:00:08.500 other thing like why's your face turning red bro i don't think i don't think it had to do with

01:00:14.240 i don't know what if i did the egypt what the egyptian government they blacklisted me but maybe

01:00:19.180 the galapagos the galapagos will not have that issue i don't think we can be out there hugging

01:00:23.460 seals dude you can i mean not legally but you know no no the seals hug that's right you they

01:00:30.100 can hug you you can't hug them oh got it um do you have to walk far there no not really no i'm

01:00:36.260 i have no ankle on my right leg yeah no ankle so well i still have it it's just an act it's not

01:00:41.460 working really well you don't have to do long walks or anything really it's very catered to

01:00:44.960 people visiting it um i i should go why because i was i was flown here to do a job for the company

01:00:52.800 that I work for.

01:00:53.580 Oh, that's a pretty good reason.

01:00:54.540 You answered it extremely well.

01:00:56.500 I think you two should continue.

01:00:58.880 Oh, yeah, I'm cool with that.

01:00:59.760 I'm super down.

01:01:00.580 Yeah.

01:01:01.440 I'm going to have someone

01:01:02.140 connect us afterwards.

01:01:03.240 Yeah, sounds good, man.

01:01:04.020 What do you want to do

01:01:04.620 about the photograph?

01:01:06.180 Yeah, can we take a photograph?

01:01:07.400 Yeah, of course.

01:01:07.500 And you guys want to continue?

01:01:08.220 Just jump back in.

01:01:08.800 Just because, bro,

01:01:09.540 I'm going to watch

01:01:10.640 the rest of this episode.

01:01:11.480 On this topic of extinct animals.

01:01:13.620 Now the backfire is finally gone.

01:01:15.360 Bro, what's the deal

01:01:16.220 with that guy, dude?

01:01:17.740 You tell me.

01:01:18.560 He's your buddy. 1.00

01:01:19.220 He's got so much shit going on. 1.00

01:01:20.600 I know. 1.00

01:01:20.960 I'm just teasing.

01:01:21.500 no that was cool that was awesome he this is this rarely happens but he he might be like one of the

01:01:27.340 hardest working people on the internet i forget who told me that when we connected for the pod

01:01:32.500 but they were just like he never stops it's a different it's a different level i don't think

01:01:36.840 people like truly understand like it's just thing to thing to thing to thing yeah like he wakes up

01:01:42.400 and rolls out of bed gets on emails gets on calls for prime whatever goes to this thing flies to

01:01:47.500 this thing goes to this thing it just never stops dude i mean look at what he's built though so it's

01:01:51.640 awesome an empire but he's not allowed to go to egypt yeah that's true and it's not and it's not

01:01:56.940 because of aliens i'm gonna make some calls on that because i i've worked with them in a

01:02:00.700 environmental capacity you know another thing about him too is it's like it's weird but people

01:02:05.320 people kind of like set their judgment on him and his brother and they're really not willing to

01:02:11.900 talk about it really yeah i find that interesting because from a public perspective i always think

01:02:17.780 of like and i don't want to just i don't want to be mean about anything but it seems like he's the

01:02:22.620 good brother and his brother's the bad brother like that's what it seems they swap back and

01:02:26.400 forth oh it depends on what the news cycle says it depends on what like the latest controversy is

01:02:31.320 i mean it really like flip-flops back and forth and and jake is i think lp's probably had a little

01:02:36.940 bit more trouble recently than, than Jake. Jake's been just so locked in on boxing. Do you watch

01:02:42.980 all the, all the stuff? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, not everything, but I've, I've watched his fight

01:02:46.960 career and you know, it's, it's, I just, I like sports. So I've just kept an eye on that and

01:02:51.400 it's cool. Do you, uh, do you think that, do you subscribe to the absurdity at all of all of it?

01:02:58.520 Like, do you, do you think that we're in a place where things will start to pendulum back in any

01:03:04.380 direction or do you think that the absurdity of all of this stuff is just getting started and by

01:03:07.860 all this stuff i mean your kids will grow up saying that they're the boxer that introduced

01:03:13.300 them to the sport was jake paul the person that introduced them to wwe will be logan paul right

01:03:18.500 like do you think that we're moving towards a place where it's going to slow down or do you

01:03:24.380 think we're just getting started i think we're just getting started and i think it's awesome

01:03:27.260 it's the same reason that you know dude when when lp says let's go do animal stuff i get so excited

01:03:33.360 because if I imagine 10 years from now,

01:03:36.180 I'm walking down the street

01:03:36.980 and some fan runs up to me and goes,

01:03:38.680 dude, because of when you and Logan Paul

01:03:40.420 went to the Galapagos,

01:03:41.580 I now study iguanas. 0.99

01:03:43.400 I'm going to be like, fuck yeah, 0.99

01:03:44.620 that is so awesome that Logan and I 0.99

01:03:46.680 went to the Galapagos

01:03:48.180 and you now love iguanas.

01:03:49.820 You know what I mean?

01:03:50.320 I think that's so cool.

01:03:52.300 That sounds very arrogant

01:03:53.160 the way I phrased it,

01:03:54.160 but I think it's so cool

01:03:55.800 that people that just have a passion,

01:03:58.100 whatever that passion is,

01:03:59.060 whether it's WWE or boxing or animals

01:04:01.280 or whatever it is,

01:04:01.960 can bring it to the masses it never used to be like that that's a good point that's a good point

01:04:06.780 because there used to be such a gatekeeping and i think that's like the weird part about all of it

01:04:10.760 is like you know it's weird as you watch like musicians nowadays can't play instruments a lot

01:04:19.100 of rappers yeah and even rap yeah you know what i'm saying but because of their ability to to

01:04:23.860 spread to the master you so you have to ask yourself that question like

01:04:26.940 is is the is the gatekeeping worth it or is it or is it more worth it to be able to spread

01:04:34.080 the the the message widely right and that's kind of like the that's kind of like the table stakes

01:04:39.040 nowadays is like can you deliver a message yeah rod how's your storytelling like what is your

01:04:43.600 storytelling abilities um and i i think it's great and i think there'll always be a healthy

01:04:48.380 balance of both you know there'll always be people who come up the traditional sense whether

01:04:52.280 that's going to university studying becoming a seasoned biologist or do it through media or

01:04:56.840 you know starting boxing from a kid because you're a legacy or joining it after being an

01:05:01.320 influencer like who cares it's great the more people that get into these things the better

01:05:05.640 yeah that's what i think totally so what animals do you think are out there that

01:05:10.040 are currently listed as extinct but might still be out there dude we have a list my team and i

01:05:16.000 of probably around 1200 species that we think have the potential to still be out there that

01:05:20.900 are declared extinct or missing and of those 1200 there's like eight of them that i'm i'd say i'm

01:05:26.640 almost positive are still out there and what does that process look like as you try to like actually

01:05:31.380 go find one it's all dependent on the creature because that's the cool thing about animals and

01:05:36.200 conservation there is no blanket approach you can look at certain variables like is there sufficient

01:05:41.140 habitat is it protected is there prey species uh when was the last time it was seen who's reporting

01:05:47.600 it, who declared it extinct, why was it declared extinct, all these various factors. And then you

01:05:51.900 can start to sort of paint a picture of, well, wait a minute, that was just some British dude

01:05:56.480 who went there 70 years ago who said it was extinct because he didn't find it after smoking

01:06:00.160 cigars for 10 days in the jungle. You know, I'm exaggerating, but like you can kind of like start

01:06:04.580 to paint this picture and just go, wait a minute, this is human arrogance that is declared this

01:06:08.760 way and it might not be true. So we go and launch these super cool expeditions and I'm leaving for

01:06:14.420 the first one I've done in a long time, Extinct Animal Expedition in Borneo in November, which I'm

01:06:20.040 really excited about. Who funds it? So I started YouTube about two years ago. I also have all

01:06:27.660 these Discovery Channel shows and projects. So I'm self-funding it now. It used to be funded by

01:06:33.740 we get some grant money, but mostly through network funding. So like Animal Planet would

01:06:38.280 pay me to do a show. I produced the show. So I'd then use a portion of that money to go on the

01:06:43.800 expedition and the adventure. And that was the funding model. So you're, you're coming out of

01:06:47.720 pocket personally to pay for this stuff. Yep. And I guess why? Well, now there's a return with

01:06:53.260 YouTube. Like my YouTube's grown quite a lot. Um, and I've only been doing it a little while,

01:06:57.800 but now if I put out a big video, that video makes a lot of money, you know, between sponsors

01:07:03.340 and ad dollars and clicks and all this stuff, it adds up to, you know, look, I've got to make maybe

01:07:08.840 10 videos for every one that really, if I'm going to make 10 videos in an office or a studio or a

01:07:15.260 small adventure, and then I can take that money and put that money into one grand adventure that

01:07:20.500 I know won't pencil out. That's fine. Right. Because I'm not, I was never in this for the

01:07:24.440 money. Like Mike, Mike, I've done well enough, but I'm in this for the adventure and the

01:07:28.940 conservation. Would you do, would you ever bring like a, a streamer to any of these places? Like

01:07:34.780 I just don't see – I don't – I can see a world where like Speed or like Kai or like one of these big guys would go out.

01:07:40.660 I'll take anyone.

01:07:41.120 Yeah.

01:07:41.460 Bro, I'll take anyone.

01:07:42.460 I don't care who you are.

01:07:43.480 I don't care what your religious views are, your political views, your sexual views, social views.

01:07:47.560 I couldn't care any less what you stand for.

01:07:51.060 If you have a big audience or you have a big message or you want to go experience something awesome in the wild world, I'll take you. 1.00

01:07:57.760 I mean you kicked it off with the Nelk boys. 1.00

01:07:59.580 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

01:08:00.700 Yeah, exactly.

01:08:02.060 Bringing vapes to the –

01:08:03.220 Which I didn't even know what I was getting into when I did.

01:08:05.600 But yeah, it was awesome.

01:08:06.740 And we're really good friends now.

01:08:08.340 Were you worried at all about bringing them out there?

01:08:12.080 I was worried more from a, like, how are these guys going to manage standpoint?

01:08:16.680 Because they're not used to sleeping on huts and working with tribes and being covered in mosquitoes and stuff like that.

01:08:22.540 And they handle it like champs.

01:08:23.860 They didn't complain at all?

01:08:24.880 Oh, they complained bitterly every second of the day. 0.97

01:08:27.260 But they complained in a funny way that was, you know, embracing the suck kind of thing. 0.65

01:08:31.600 And it was awesome.

01:08:32.120 what's your dream mike where would you go what's your wildlife fantasy you know honestly dude

01:08:37.720 i'm scared of a lot of those animals dude yeah i really am they scared like dude like spiders and 0.98

01:08:44.120 shit scares the shit like i don't like spiders i hate spiders i mean i would say like i think it 0.98

01:08:50.420 would be cool to go to antarctica uh-huh have you been there never it's the only continent i haven't 0.99

01:08:56.140 stepped what's the d what do you think there's any chance that that's the end of the earth and

01:09:01.020 the earth is flat and it's being protected by the government i i don't i don't just to be honest

01:09:06.240 i'm not a flat earther i've also seen all these things now have you seen this of like there's a

01:09:10.400 secret society a civilization in antarctica then yeah that's why the military protects it i've been 0.92

01:09:15.480 seeing that floating around do you buy in any of that shit bro if you have been to the arctic which 0.90

01:09:20.200 i've been to yeah yeah nobody's surviving there i mean it's incredible that native people were able 0.96

01:09:26.080 to move through like the land bridge and into the arctic and stuff because yeah there are some weeks

01:09:30.740 in the summer where it's tolerable but it is a fucking hard where did you where did you go in

01:09:35.400 the arctic uh i've been a couple places through scandinavia i've been through the um the aleutian 0.54

01:09:41.540 islands in alaska um i went in the canadian arctic i've been a few spots up so i've i've

01:09:47.900 been to this probably almost doesn't even count but i've been to like lapland in finland yeah

01:09:52.420 that's awesome i i've i've gotten to travel not like you have but i've gone to a lot of places

01:09:58.960 and i i really don't know that i've experienced uh beauty like that that northern realm of the

01:10:07.080 of the world like even even like it's it's not in the circle but like even like iceland yeah

01:10:12.040 you go there and it presents and it presents a whole new perspective on life and on on what

01:10:18.920 the planet looks like in the black sand and the and you know like it's just it's just insane and

01:10:23.840 I got a really good glimpse of the Northern Lights in Finland, and it was just incredible.

01:10:29.940 I mean, our planet is, I don't want to sound preachy, but it's so diverse.

01:10:35.300 I mean, you look out where we are right now, and then you look at Lapland, or you look

01:10:38.940 at Death Valley, or it's unbelievable how incredible this planet is, and how many landscapes

01:10:44.500 and ecosystems and crazy animals, like crazy sharks and snakes and bugs and mammals, venomous

01:10:51.800 monkeys i mean crazy stuff on this planet so cool and just the and just like the landscapes in

01:10:57.780 general i guess like for me it just it always like makes me super grateful to have the ability

01:11:03.960 to travel and to see all these places yeah we're very i mean you're yourself myself anybody who

01:11:10.880 gets to experience stuff like this is unbelievably lucky you take it with you forever you know what

01:11:16.300 i mean you pass it on to your kids pass it on your friends whatever it is but it's it's nothing like

01:11:21.120 experiencing travel. It's the best. How do you turn it off? Like, how do you, for me, I don't

01:11:27.320 know about you, but like when I come back from a lot of these trips, like I just went on this

01:11:30.740 month long trip, I was in Copenhagen, I was in Ibiza, some places I've already been, some new

01:11:35.140 places. And then sometimes I'll get back and it's almost like this like super dopamine, like drop

01:11:40.160 off. I know the feeling. So I usually, and tell me if you've experienced this, but I usually get

01:11:45.440 back and I'm like, Oh, thank God. I'm so happy to be home. I'm so exhausted. I've sent it so hard.

01:11:50.260 and then literally like three days later i'm like antsy i'm like i gotta get out of the house like 0.89

01:11:55.320 i'm going crazy i'm stir crazy and i always think when i'm traveling and sitting on planes and shit

01:11:59.740 i'm like i need like three weeks at home it's the only way i can rejuvenate or re-energize 0.70

01:12:04.320 48 hours go by and i'm like right i gotta get to the next thing like if i sit for too long i

01:12:08.940 maybe i have add or something no no i'm exactly the same yeah and i and i and i wonder about it

01:12:14.240 sometimes if this like wanderlust is uh kind of like a new addiction oh totally it's totally i've

01:12:21.140 i've always been like such a like so obsessed and and like enamored with bourdain and like his

01:12:26.140 desire to journey and and for me like your animal thing for me is food yeah i love that love food i

01:12:31.400 love eating trying you know different dishes in different countries and everything and um i just

01:12:37.500 wonder how you balance it and it seems like you do a pretty good job of it you have a family did

01:12:42.980 you always feel like like that was part of your your journey uh good question i didn't think about

01:12:49.500 it but i like at all not really okay but you know i've i've known my wife since we were 17 years old

01:12:55.820 um you know we didn't get married 17 or anything like that but i've known her a very long time

01:12:59.720 and i i just like i always wanted a family i always wanted someone to share this with and

01:13:05.580 do you have kids no here's why i ask i ask curiously it's kind of a a funny uh become

01:13:13.300 kind of a meme of me being this like unk you know girl start a family and i i for various reasons

01:13:19.880 haven't done it i i've got some some disconnects there in the relationship world and and spent a

01:13:25.340 lot of my life not developing those those tactics and that's why i asked if it was something that

01:13:30.260 was like kind of always in your recipe it wasn't but i always knew i wanted to have a family and

01:13:34.520 whether you're the uncle or the dad or whatever. Now things that are mundane to me, like catching

01:13:40.840 another fish in Santa Barbara, where I live, catching another white sea bass or a yellowtail,

01:13:44.920 which I've done a thousand times. Could I go and do it? Yes. I get this tiny little dopamine hit

01:13:50.000 from it. Like it's fun. Yeah. Cool. I caught a fish, whatever. I take my five-year-old. It's

01:13:54.760 like I'm seeing it for the first time again. And that part, and even when, even as an older cousin,

01:13:59.900 not an uncle, but I had that same feeling then too. And I think it's the same feeling that I get

01:14:04.300 when I'm communicating conservation wildlife

01:14:06.320 to like people on social media and stuff.

01:14:08.860 That's like, I could catch that fish a thousand times

01:14:11.700 if I see those smiles, if that makes sense.

01:14:13.680 A hundred percent.

01:14:14.580 People have told me about that so much.

01:14:16.320 And I certainly like understand the sentiment

01:14:18.220 of being able to relive life again for the first time.

01:14:21.380 And, you know, like you see a kid, it's funny.

01:14:26.020 They liken watching someone on a lot of psychoactives,

01:14:30.900 like psilocybin and mushrooms and acid and stuff like that.

01:14:34.000 is like watching a kid go through the mall for the first time.

01:14:36.360 Yeah.

01:14:36.780 And they, you know, they're holding their parents' hand

01:14:38.440 and they're just looking around with wide eyes

01:14:40.020 and everything is just so incredible.

01:14:41.700 And the idea of being able to relive such mundane things

01:14:44.940 and find that joy in it again is definitely attractive to me.

01:14:48.160 I just like, for me, it's,

01:14:49.700 I guess I've just been kind of waiting for life to slow down

01:14:52.220 and it hasn't.

01:14:53.980 And so what?

01:14:54.860 Do you know what I mean?

01:14:55.440 Like life is for enjoying no matter what facet of it you're in.

01:14:59.360 And I've seen that whether it's in that remote island of Vanuatu

01:15:03.080 to or in the poorest nations in africa or asia or south america whatever just embrace life don't be

01:15:09.020 upset about stuff you don't have or places you haven't been or things you haven't if you can

01:15:12.760 just have that sort of childhood sense of wonder and this is getting very ethereal now but

01:15:16.700 it just makes everything better maybe maybe i'm like constantly drugged up and don't even realize

01:15:21.440 it but like i get so excited just to do new things and see new things and be with new people and then

01:15:26.300 get to share that with little ones or people that love conservation it's just like it's fun just

01:15:30.500 enjoy life who cares but you and you and you definitely like found your thing yeah and i and

01:15:35.760 i and i definitely like uh understand the the opposing side or the people that haven't found

01:15:41.520 their thing and they it's it's stressful and they want to yeah what would you what would you say

01:15:46.020 like as like a piece of advice to people watching this that like may be in their 30s or 40s and may

01:15:51.660 have lost some of that curiosity or lust for life like how how how would you um push people to try

01:15:57.060 to reinvigorate that? I would say that you just have to try new things. And for me, those new

01:16:01.460 things always come in the form of being outdoors, but maybe they're food, maybe they're travel,

01:16:05.640 maybe they're a video game. It doesn't really matter. But I think what happens is we get,

01:16:11.080 as we get older, we get scared to try new things because it's different. It's hard. It's a lot of

01:16:16.940 effort to go to a new place, to try something different. I want to go to the same restaurant.

01:16:20.980 I want to do the same thing I do every day. But then some of those new things are not going to

01:16:25.840 be for you and they might suck but every once in a while fucking paddle ball comes out or what you 0.99

01:16:30.120 know what i mean like everybody's into fucking paddle now it's like great if that's your thing 0.99

01:16:34.380 that's your thing but you have to try it to figure that out and i think people get scared to try new 0.95

01:16:38.140 stuff yeah i certainly feel like that sometimes i'm getting the wrap-up uh from a producer even

01:16:43.480 though the co-owner of the show had asked us to continue going you got somewhere to go do you have

01:16:49.360 somewhere to go i don't see anyone from the venue here dylan maybe you have some questions for 1.00

01:16:55.400 am i boring am i boring you dylan is that what's happening why don't you take a fucking seat 0.98

01:16:59.180 oh yeah you are you are you are incredible and and honestly we could have we could could have 0.99

01:17:06.980 could do you know hours with you and i know logan's super into the animal stuff um but we'll

01:17:11.820 do it again and i appreciate you coming through what do you have anything you want to shout out

01:17:15.400 any any uh conservation people uh what's your instagram all that stuff like sure yeah i mean

01:17:23.640 not really i i have everything i have all the social media channels just started doing youtube

01:17:28.540 youtube is starting to become a big enough thing for me that i get to focus on it wholeheartedly

01:17:34.300 so if people want to check that out and follow that that really helps me but just fall in love

01:17:38.820 with wildlife that's all i care about all right since we're being forced to shut down uh for

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